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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #180 on: October 13, 2009, 16:36:27 pm »
The night was ok, the wake up was ok. A little earlier than we've been having lately. I think he might have been cold. The temps dropped last night.

But I also had a cranky little guy this morning.

How long did he sleep in the stroller this morning? I hope he naps ok for you.

YIPPEE on the wake up :)
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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #181 on: October 13, 2009, 18:19:07 pm »
Oh I forgot to mention, he slept for 55mins!!!  He must have been extremely tired.  He did have a short night as I put him to bed late. 

13 Oct

6:00  wake up A 3h15
9:15  S 55mins
10:10  A 3h30
13:40  S 1h
14:40  A 4h30
19:10  S 

All day he was a little restless and didn't play nice.  First nap was a surprise.  Didn't even think he would fall asleep and slept long.  Then he's really cranky.  Yawning and rubbing eyes through lunch and snack.  I didn't think I could put him down at all for 2nd nap.  A bit of whining and slept an hour with no stirring at all!  Not bad.  I took him for another walk to get him calm.  He went down very nicely.  He's just exhausted. 

1st nap could be UT, though.  But I'm not complaining.  He needs to catch up on some sleep. 

Hope your little guy gets good nap!!

DH really didn't want to do bedtime before 7 lol.. he's scared... 



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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #182 on: October 13, 2009, 20:29:13 pm »
Not too bad at all Koe - it is pretty normal for a baby of this age to do 2x1hr naps even though we would prefer a little more.

I would have gone for a 6.30pm bedtime, though.

I understand the fear though and I refuse to do earlier than 6.30pm for the same reasons.

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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #183 on: October 14, 2009, 12:29:39 pm »
Thanks, LizJ.  We're glad that things are improving.  However we had a very rough night.  Is there another GS at 10mos?!?!  DS woke crying close to midnight.  I had a sleeping pill so couldn't think straight.  I checked and it wasn't diapers, not teething, not temperature, no fever.  Then we gave him a bottle but because I couldn't think straight, we gave a diluted bottle.  He went back to sleep after the bottle but DH had to sit by the bed till he's almost asleep.  DS woke again at 5 and needed another bottle.  (This I wouldn't be surprised after the diluted bottle and he was desperately drinking). 

The last few days DS has been having very short last A.  Do you think I should try and keep that? 



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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #184 on: October 14, 2009, 12:43:12 pm »
There isn't a 'know' GS at 10 mths - the next is 12 months.

TBH I'm not sure what your DS is up to with that one but I suspect it is a case of 'it seeming like a good idea once he is awake'.

Did he eat well yesterday? I've sometimes accepted the odd night feed after I know he has had a bad eating day and therefore a reason for genuine hunger.

I think it is very likely some of it was OT after the long A and it is likely he will prefer a short A to bed - mainly after his rubbish napping all day!!

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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #185 on: October 14, 2009, 19:50:52 pm »
Yesterday he ate just a tiny bit less than normal, but quite a bit less than during the GS last week.  Let's hope it's an OT thing.

14 Oct

After 2 bottles, 1 at around midnight and 1 at 5, he's back to sleep after half an hour or so.

8:00 wake up A 5h  (We're not exactly sure what time DS woke as we were sooo tired and just got back to sleep.)
13:00  S  1h45 
14:45  A  3h55 for 1st bedtime attempt, 5h15
18:40   in cot, few minutes later started crying :'( 
20:00  S   

I don't know about other countries, playgroups here all tend to be 10-12 which is exactly DS' nap time normally.  Since he had a late start today, we went to a playgroup.  It was great and DS had great fun and so did I!  I thought he would sleep on the way home but he didn't.  Perhaps he was hungry. 

He went down very well for his nap and woke crying.  The rest of the day was yawning but happy.  So I thought to give him early bed as he's only had 1 nap.  I tried everything to get him back to sleep but he just wouldn't have any of it.  Got him up to play.  Gave him another bottle and then he went down, no fuss!

There could be several possibilities why he wouldn't sleep.  1st, hunger.  I didn't think of that because though he didn't eat a big dinner, but i gave him extra big bottle already.  So 1 hour later, I gave him 2/3 of a bottle and he finished it.  2nd, perhaps too bright outside.  He's been going to bed at almost total darkness outside.  Suddenly it was sunny  :-[  3rd, didn't do enough in the afternoon.  Took him grocery shopping after his nap and with early bedtime, not much playing time at all.  4th, the overall day just wasn't long enough.  8am wake and 6:40 to bed, perhaps too short? 



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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #186 on: October 15, 2009, 00:32:49 am »
You are right, it really could have been any of those reasons.

I think it's great that he had such a long nap though. That's uncommon for him :)

Good luck on the night.
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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #187 on: October 15, 2009, 06:46:01 am »
well... just a quick update:
5:20 wake up, HUNGRY  :o after a normal bottle
7:24 wake up A

not sure if DS is really wanting to switch to 1 nap...  perhaps after 1h45 nap he can go on for 5h!  But one good thing is that... we're probably ready for end of daylight savings hahaha  *Fingers crossed*



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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #188 on: October 15, 2009, 10:38:00 am »
Hmmmm... maybe... he needs to be able to handle that sort of A every single day though.

Do you think he could?

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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #189 on: October 15, 2009, 11:38:05 am »
I don't think he can but seems like that's what his body wants.  I guess it's the start of the transition as we already know it.

This morning, again, he fell asleep in the pram at 2h45 A!  He's just plain knackered from all the excitement in the last few days.  So will try to let him have a decent rest at home.  

He does seem hungry all morning.  It's interesting that the days when we gave him diluted bottles, he only slept around 1h afterwards.  This morning we gave a full bottle, he slept 2h.

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15 Oct
5:24  wake, bottle, back to sleep
7:24  wake up A 2h45
10:17  S 35mins (in pram)
10:52  A  3h17
14:05  S 30mins (on bike!!!!)
14:35  A 2h30
16:05  S 35mins (in pram again)
16:40  A  3h10
19:50  in cot /19:55  S

DS did eat more overall but not more at dinner.  He had about a banana and 3/4 slice of bread more in total.  We'll see.  He's just very tired today.  It does seem like a GS with the tiredness and he keeps chewing on his fingers. 

Probably will EWs for OT.  I prepared 2 bottles at bedtime and he couldn't even finish the first one :P :P  and the planning to let him sleep well at home didn't work out. 
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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #190 on: October 16, 2009, 21:26:43 pm »
I'm just lost.  

16 Oct
6:08 wake up, crying, after normal bottle, back to sleep
7:52 wake up.  A 4h50
12:42  S 1h25
14:07  A 3h45
17:53  S 30mins  (in pram)
18:23  A  1h35
20:00  S  

6am 1st wake up wasn't bad at all.  But he was so sleepy and he went back to sleep for 2 more hours.  I don't think I could give him any more to eat during the day, though.  If he eats more in the early part of the day, he won't have much dinner.  It could also be 3 naps that got the EW but he wanted to go back to sleep.  Since it's 6, it isn't likely to be HW.  Knowing that if we don't feed him, he won't be able to go to bed.  Not sure how to help him transition to his next sleep cycle?

Also, he fell asleep right when we arrived home at our front door!!!  So, he went on longer so 1st A became so long.  There are still only 2 naps but the last nap was so close to bedtime.  Can 1h25 nap mean OT?  Or would even longer A give longer nap like two days ago???  



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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #191 on: October 18, 2009, 18:34:06 pm »
Sorry Koe - been busy over the weekend.

How has it been over the weekend?

1hr 25 min naps can be either really - for me they always meant I should have got him to sleep 10 mins earlier so he was just a tad OT. But often UT as well.

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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #192 on: October 18, 2009, 19:21:40 pm »
I think I would have just kept going like we've talked about before. Those walks really are messing things up for you. But I know you can't just not go out.

Also curious to see how the weekend has been.
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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #193 on: October 19, 2009, 18:44:46 pm »
We had a busy weekend, too.  One very good night and 2 bad.  

17 Oct
6:52  wake up A 4h08  (stirred at 5:35, took ages to resettle and by 6:12, DS was back to sleep himself :D  So 10h52 night sleep)
11:00 S  1h25
12:25 A  4h20
17:45 S  45mins (in pram, just wanted to make sure a CN was in)
18:30 A  1h52  
20:22 S  10h only

The 1st nap must have been too long and so DS just wouldn't take another nap, so out for a walk but it's too late already.  Or 45mins was too long??  

18 Oct  (had to go to DH's mother and didn't get home till 7pm!!!)
6:27  wake up A 3h33 (not good considering bedtime was a full hour later :()
10:00  S  50mins (in the car)
10:50  A  3h42
14:32  S  36mins (during a walk in the pram)
18:34  S  21mins
18:55  A  1h27
20:22  S  9h 30

19 Oct
5:52  wake up A  4h
9:50  S  30mins
10:20  A  2h30
12:50  S  35mins
13:25  A  3h40
17:05  S  40mins  (in pram and this was deliberate)
17:45  A  2h45
20:35  S  

The late bedtime wasn't intended.  Just not sure if 3 naps or late last nap is worse?!?!  From 17 Oct, seems like it was a perfect day but the night sleep was only 10h, like i said earlier.

He went down to nap very easily first 2 naps.  Just too short.  Perhaps OT from yesterday.  

I was so scared of the falling asleep during walks, I took DS out to do grocery right after he woke from nap #2!!!  I'll just keep at 3h45 to put in cot for 1st A and see what happens.  

I hope you both have had a great weekend.



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Re: 8.5 mo early waking. needs help!
« Reply #194 on: October 20, 2009, 20:04:52 pm »
Today was not a very good day.

20 Oct
5:54 wake up (9.5h night sleep) and bottle and slept again
7:49  wake up A 6h11
14:00 S 50mins
14:50 A 2h09
17:00 S 35  (in pram)
17:35 A 2h45
20:20 S

I first put down DS at around A 3h50, but he just cried so hard like the UT cries before.  Got him up and he played nicely.  When he started to lose coordination, I quickly winded him down and put him to bed.  Even 4h A isn't long enough?  I took him for a walk and was back around 3h A to prevent him falling asleep.  Perhaps he slept well and needed longer A?  

He went down for his night very well.  So we'll see what time he wakes in the morning.