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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #150 on: March 20, 2008, 21:38:19 pm »
She seems well hydrated.  I'm not sure how many wet diapers she should have, but she does have them.  Her sleeping is too good.  From the day we brought her home from the hospital, she's tried to sleep all night.  I was having to wake her to eat so I didn't get engorged.  Then she went through a colic stage where she wouldn't go to sleep until after midnight--anywhere between 1-3 a.m.  Then she'd eat once around 6 or 7 a.m. and then sleep the rest of the morning.  Now she goes to bed around 10 pm and sleeps until 6 or 7 am.  Right now, I'm waking her around 2 am just so she can get the extra ounces.  She takes about 2 good naps a day--1-2 hrs long.  The rest of the time, she's awake, alert, plays with toys, rolls over, smile and coos, etc.  I've had lots of people tell me similar stories about their babies being really small--some even smaller than mine.  It's always encouraging to hear, but then I have to deal with health visitors, dieticians and doctors.  She started out on the growth chart at 6 lbs, 12 oz.  She gained slowly and gradually went lower on the chart.  She was off the chart by 12 weeks.  That's when they wanted me to start supplementing.  She's been under the chart ever since, but she is following the curve, though slightly lower each time.  Last week she was taking about 5 4-oz bottles and 1 5-oz or 6-oz bottle.  She was also eating cereal and carrots.  This week, since she's had a cold, I'm having to fight to get 2 oz down her each feed.  She didn't even want her cereal today, which she normally likes.  When she's not feeding, she seems happy and strong.  But when I try to feed her, we both end up in tears because she just won't eat, and she gets upset if I persist in trying to get her to take it.  I suppose it could be the cold or teething--she seems to have no appetite.  Hopefully she'll get over this cold quickly and begin eating more again.

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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2008, 00:05:42 am »
I would probably just do what you've been doing.  Once she's over the cold, you'll likely see that things improve a lot.  Don't force her to eat, look for ways to increase her calories as you have been (adding the formula to her solids, for example), but you don't want to make negative eating associations.  Does she seem to be in pain at all when she's eating?  4-5 oz just isn't an abnormally small amount of milk per feeding for a baby this age/size.  If you want to try to increase it, do it just by little bits.  Say, I'd like her to eat 25 oz a day.  And increase her bottles just a bit.  If you think the goal is 30+ ounces and she's only doing 24 then you're going to have a much harder time emotionally getting her to eat because you're thinking she is so far below the "goal."

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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #152 on: March 22, 2008, 00:11:07 am »
I forgot, you said she was on 6 bottles a day and one of those is at 10p and one at 2a.  So, during the day what is her feeding routine?  Every 4 hours?  If not, some people find that stretching the feeds out a bit can increase the baby's intake.

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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #153 on: March 22, 2008, 15:22:53 pm »
Thanks for the good advice--it helps!  Right now I have stopped trying to force-feed her.  I'd read before that you shouldn't, but I didn't realize the reason was to prevent negative eating associations.  This one particular health visitor implied (when I took baby to get weighed) that I should try to force-feed her.  My dd had gained 7 oz that week, but the h.v. seemed unhappy with that gain.  A friend told me today that her doctor said babies normally can't gain more than 7 oz in a week!  So it helped to hear that.  I guess I'm worried because we were just getting her to eating better before the cold, and now she won't eat much.  I keep thinking she needs to drink her milk because she needs fluids--she has such a bad cough.  It's starting to sound croupy.  But it's like she has no appetite at all.

She never seems to be in pain while eating.  She only gets mad if I try to get her to take more than she wants.  Once I give up, she's happy.  Also, she's not really on a good schedule.  She goes 3-4 hours during the day and longer at night.  I've been wondering about scheduling--wondering if she would eat better if I waiting longer between feeds.  But when she only eats 2 oz, I hate to wait more than 4 hrs before trying again.  Of course the 2-oz at a time thing is only right now when she has a cold.  Hopefully she'll improve when she's over it.  Do you have any suggestions on scheduling?  Or is there a link on this website I could read?  What is dream feeding and cluster feeding?  I'm kind of new to this website and the ideas/terms.  I have one Baby Whisperer book I found at a charity shop (can't remember title), but it doesn't address this.

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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #154 on: March 29, 2008, 19:51:57 pm »
Cluster feeding is feeding more frequently in the evenings to tank them up before bed and dreamfeeding is feeding them in their sleep before you go to sleep so they can last longer into the night.  People implement these ideas in all sorts of ways, but a typical df might be anytime between 9:30-11, depending on what works best for a particular family.  As far as scheduling, are you basically on EASY yet (Eat-Activity-Sleep).  If not, that's the first thing to do.  Then you can work on gradually stretching the length between feeds.
Here is the link to the FAQ section on the EASY forum.  That might be a good place to start!
http://www.babywhispererforums.com/index.php?board=82.0

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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #155 on: May 07, 2008, 00:28:02 am »
I have been reading these posts and it sounds like what my ds is going through.  He is only 3 months, butI am lucky to get 1 to 2 oz in him every feed.  He was a small baby too, but up until Saturday he ate 5 oz. every 3 hours.  I am at loss at what to do too.  It has affected his sleeping now too.  He used to get up once a night and now last night was 6 times.  He only ate at two of the times though.  Because he is not eating well he has wanted to suck lots and even though we had him weaned from the paci, he now needs it all the time again.  By the sounds of it this could be developmental right?

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« Reply #156 on: May 10, 2008, 22:19:04 pm »
JHugs, sorry you are going through a rough time.

What size teat are you using?  Do you think your lo could be ready for a faster flow teat?  Or do you think that perhaps your lo could be ready to stretch his feedings to 3.5 hours?
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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #157 on: May 10, 2008, 22:47:57 pm »
We figured out what my ds's problem was. My dh and I assumed that all lactose free formula was the same and picked up the cheaper one of the two that are available.  He went on a feeding strike until we went back to his original brand similac.  Now he is eating just fine.

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« Reply #158 on: May 10, 2008, 23:12:48 pm »
Great news, I am pleased that things have improved.

It is amazing how different brands of formula can taste soo different.
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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #159 on: August 15, 2008, 10:53:41 am »
Hi,

My 15 week old daughter 'Lilia' started being fussy with her feeds about 3 weeks ago, going from a good 30oz a day to an average of 20oz, it may just be coincidental but it happened around the same time as we tried to establish a 3 hour EASY routine.

We have persisted with the EASY routine and have now established a 4 hour routine, very hard work, I made my partner take 3 afternoons off work to help out in the early days, as we also needed to wean her off her dummy, as she never slept more than 20 mins with it.

I also thought it could be teething, so have introduced a teething ring at Activity time. Lilia also suffered from colic but it cleared up at around the 12 week mark, I weaned her off Colief after 3 days, as I noticed she started to be sick alot after feeds, as soon as I got her off the Colief the sickness eased. I had noticed that Lilia seemed a bit more windy recently, even though I haven't changed her formual from Aptamil 1, so I have been trying Dentinox Colic relief, which you put in the bottle, she does seem less windy and this morning took a 7oz feed in 20 mins, Hooray!!! I'm hoping it's not just a coincidence and will take better feeds over the rest of the day.

Lilia also feeds better in the morning, she gets more tired as the day goes on, and by tea-time struggles with her feeds. I have started introducing very low key activity from 3pm, as not to over stimulate her, I usually just feed and change her, read her some stories and if the weather is dry take her out into the garden for 10 mins or ler her look out of the window, this also helps with her late afternoon catnap, as she seems to settle better.

It's so stressfull, I can completely see where you're coming from, it's all trial and error I'm afraid, personaly I would resist from weaning before 17 weeks, as you could make things worse, if your babay has an immature digestive system.

Hope some of the suggestions work for you, and if you find any answers yourself, please share them.

Best Regards

Tracey (Sheffield UK)


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Re: I'm going insane with 3.5-mo hardly eating, HELP!
« Reply #160 on: August 15, 2008, 20:43:35 pm »
Hi Tracy,

Sounds like things are working well for you.  Please keep us posted on how you get on.

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« Reply #161 on: August 19, 2008, 22:45:03 pm »
Hi,

I did a post on my 6 mth old reducing her daily totals from c.30 oz to barely over 20oz but no replies as yet........ Her reduced intake could be teething and/or reflux rearing its head after we started solids at breakfast 3 weeks ago. Trouble is, she is sometimes waking for a feed at night now. No habitual time so it's hunger but a big step backwards nevertheless.

My deal is, can I do anything ? She's a whopping 18lbs (to be weighed by the doc. tmrw) so that's not the issue.

Help, I'm getting really tired of her 45 min. naps going on and on and now this. She is on the same formula (it's the least gassy one we found with her reflux) and still spitting up. She's on Pepcid which we had weaned but put her back on with the feeding issues. She pulls away when she's done at about 4-5oz and I don't persist.

It's pretty darn hard sticking to a 4hr feeding schedule with bad naps and hunger getting in the way.................     
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« Reply #162 on: August 20, 2008, 20:39:48 pm »
Hugs, I have replied to your other post hun  :-*
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« Reply #163 on: August 31, 2008, 19:11:35 pm »
This all sounds similar to what I've been going through.  I have a 5.5 month old who has never been a good eater.  His first 2 feeds of the day he will only take about 2-4oz.  He'll take about 2oz easily and then I really have to push him to get another 1-2oz in.  The last 2 feeds are a little better where he'll take about 4-5oz but he should be taking much more than this.  I am still giving him a DF where he will only finish about 3-4oz and then he wakes 2x during the night to have bottles.  I feel like I am constantly trying to feed him.  I started solids right at 4 months thinking this would help and he really has little interest in this too.  He never seems to be in pain while eating, he just seems to be bored.  I don't mind that he won't eat overall because he is a decent size boy, but I think that is the reason he won't sleep well.  It is all so frustrating!!  My doctor is no help - he says he's growing so I shouldn't worry.  He also says at this stage I should feed him whenever he's hungry so he has no solution how to help him eat more during the day and less at night.

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« Reply #164 on: September 01, 2008, 18:04:21 pm »
Does your DS have reflux?
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