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Baby is 4 weeks... is this too young for EASY?
« on: May 04, 2006, 16:10:22 pm »
My baby will be 4 weeks on Monday and I'd like to start using EASY with her.  As of now, she eats about every 2 1/2 to 3 hours of formula during both day and night and typically naps between feedings.  Is she too young to start EASY?  At what point would I start to eliminate the 2am feeding?  If you started when your baby was this young, what was their night time routine like?  How did you know they were ready?  Thanks!

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Re: Baby is 4 weeks... is this too young for EASY?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2006, 16:46:38 pm »
Hi Cita,

I believe the earlier you start EASY the easier it is for you and the baby.  I know there are some moms in the forum that started EASY since day 1.
I don't know when you should start eliminate the 2 am feeding.  My dd is 10 wks old and still wakes up at night (every 2 hrs  :( and I'm working on reducing it).  I believe your baby probably still need the night feeding, but instead of feeding her at 2 am all the time, you should check whether your baby wakes up because of hunger or not.  Otherwise she'll wake up out of habit.  Does that make sense?

I still working on tweaking my dd routine.  But I can tell you that EASY routine makes my dd happier.

good luck!

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Re: Baby is 4 weeks... is this too young for EASY?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2006, 17:00:31 pm »
Hi Cita

To start implementing EASY, I would;

1. Set a time to wake him up each morning and a bed time.   We usually say 7am wake up and 7pm bedtime and a dreamfeed at about 10.30pm.
2. Stretch her to 3hrs between feeds.
3. Get her down for naps in each EASY 3hr cycle,
4. Finally, get her to nap for longer than 1 sleep cycle (45mins) as often as you can, using various sleep methods i.e. shushpat, wake 2 sleep...  (your goal is 3 naps each lasting between 1hr 30mins to 2hrs)


By getting her down 1 nap per 3hr cycle you should not be missing any naps in his day.

If you choose 7am as your wake up time and start to the day, any wakings prior to this should be treated as a night waking, where you feed (if necessary) and put her back to sleep using shushpat, etc (PU/PD after 4months).  In the beginning if you really cannot get her back to sleep between 6 - 7am, treat her wake up as her start time and gradually move it back to 7am.  If ehe consistently wakes at the 20min mark, go into her room before this (or sit the whole time while she naps) and lay a hand on her to help her progress to the next sleep cycle.

Wake her from her naps if she looks like sleeping through her next E (feeding) time. This may seem a bit strange to do at the start but your are 'reprograming' her sleep if you like and trying to get her down one every 3 hours for naps rather than a sleep.

Your Lo will instigate in drop in feeds herself, it is very commin for LO's this age to continur their feeding cycle through a 24hr period.  Calum was still up twice a night at this age.

EASY will work for you, but like anything it takes time to 'bed-in', do you know your LO temperament, there is a quiz here https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=52283.0

So, one in  every 3hr period you are looking for a nap from her, you 3hr cycle may look like this;
     E 7am
     A 7.30am (inc. a 10 - 10min at the end of this 'A' time for wind down for her nap)*
     S 8.30 - 1.5hr  Undecided if shorter and you haven't been able to extend then you would do EASA

    E 10am

     A 10.30am (inc. a 10 - 10min at the end of this 'A' time for wind down for her nap)*
     S 11.30 - 1.5hr  Undecided if shorter and you haven't been able to extend then you would do EASA

    E 1300
     A 1330 (inc. a 10 - 10min at the end of this 'A' time for wind down for her nap)*
     S 1430 - 1.5hr  Undecided if shorter and you haven't been able to extend then you would do EASA

    E 1600
     A 1630
     S 1730 - catnap only  30 - 45mins

    E 1900 & bath or vice versa    or    E 1800   &    2000  with bath in the middle (clusterfeeding)
     S 1930                                       S 2030

    DF between 10 -11 https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=54662.0

She will start to sleep longer at night if she is developmentally ready to do so, however giving her the bulk of her milk intake in the core day hours (7am to bedtime + DF) will go a long way to helping this    ;)

Newborns need to eat every 2-3 hours around the clock.  the idea behind a df is to help get the calories into them without waking them so they learn how to sleep longer.  usually it's given between 10-11pm.  it can take up to 2 weeks before you really get the hang of it & start to see the effects from it.  it does not work for every baby (i.e. neither of mine!   ;) ) but there are lots of moms here who have been quite successful with it.   https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=54662.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=39164.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=39769.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=451.0


I usually try and build in a nap on ther journey to where ever I am going and try and time it to make his 'A' time occur when I am out and about, it is easier now he is older.  Here are some previous posts https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=57592.0


* I would put Calum in his cot 15 -20 min before the 2hour mark to wind him down for sleeping. You could also just try sitting with your LO, have you read about the 4 S’s in Tracy’s books. If you miss her sleep window and he becomes overtired she will cry out of frustration, to avoid this I always follow the same wind-down routine, 4 S's
Set the stage - prepare you LO room for sleep; remove stimulation, darken room, lullaby....
Swaddle - (I used to swaddle now I use a gro'bag with his arms swaddled)
Sitting - Quietly without any stimulation, and when necessary..
Shush-pat

Is there anyway you can start the 4 S's 15 -20min before a nap? As part of your 'A' time

HTH's
Any questions just give ma a shout.

lauren

Here are some other links that may be of use ???
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=10409.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=59102.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=58269.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=58170.0
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=57553.0
« Last Edit: May 04, 2006, 17:04:36 pm by Calums_Mum »
Lauren x


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Re: Baby is 4 weeks... is this too young for EASY?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2006, 13:57:42 pm »
Cita-as far as the night feed goes, my dd never woke for it, but I woke her once per night.  I stopped doing so at 8 weeks and she continued to sleep through.  Each baby is different though, so if your lo is waking, she might stop waking once she is developmentally ready, or you'll have to work on getting enough in her during the day and with cluster and/or dreamfeeding and resettling her to sleep during the night.  Right now, though, nightwakings are normal and to be expected.
Kelsey, Feb. 4, 2005
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