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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2015, 11:00:47 am »
Morning, hard to say if it's UT/OT  ???

Have you been able to figure out if she high/average or low sleep needs from her history Hun  ??? As Marti says I think this is very relevant.

(HUGS) on the migraine  :( Have you got ear plugs for when she is crying  ??? Tracy recommended this, it may sound harsh, but you can still hear your LO, it just means that the frequency is easier to bear, I used them throughout Sam's ST.x.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2015, 13:30:02 pm »
Hi, I think she is very LSN, I remember she was 2 weeks old and wasn't sleeping for 7 hours during the day. She started having one nap at 13 months. When she was on two naps she was only napping for 2x 1 hour at 12 months. When our day started getting too long we started capping naps but this never really worked as I couldn't work out if she likes fitst one longer or second one. So we switched to one. She would probably fall asleep while feeding if she was OT and wake up early. I think she needs quite long wind down before BT. It is very hot here at the moment and we only go out after 3 pm and this gives us very little time to play outside. We go out early in the morning too. We try to work around her naps always, daily trips are impossible as she hates long car trips and will not sleep in the car, or will but not for very long, so it seems like our life is concentrating on LO's sleeping. I know it will pass but I am pregnant and feel exhausted now. I'm sorry I have gone on a bit but I am so sleep deprived that I am running on fumes and after entertaining LO for whole day the last thing I need is her not wanting to sleep.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2015, 13:58:46 pm »
Quote from: ewapeters on January 06, 2015, 13:30:02 pm
I'm sorry I have gone on a bit but I am so sleep deprived that I am running on fumes and after entertaining LO for whole day the last thing I need is her not wanting to sleep.


Oh Hun, not at all, that's what we're here for, I can only imagine how tired you are :( What does your Mother's Instinct tell you about last night  ??? My guess would be UT from what you've just explained,  what do you think.

Are you going to stick with long morning A time for a while to see if that works  ???

You do know that if she is LSN your new baby is scheduled to be HSN  ??? ;) that's what I've been told, so finger's crossed eh!?

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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2015, 12:56:32 pm »
Hi, We have been doing longer A times and 18:30 BT for almost a week. LO WU time still ranges from 4:45 yesterday to 5:30 today. She goes for a nap between 11:30-12 depending on WU time and sleeps for
 1h-1h 10. We have struggled with BT too gor few days as it was taking her 1 h to fall asleep, but it is netter now and she tends to fall asleep around 18:45.
She sleeps from 10-10:45 h during the night, naps haven't changed and the whole routine move made her sleep 1 h less then before, EW still the same.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2015, 19:09:08 pm »
Hey Hun,

So she is clocking up around 12 hours, It really does seem that this is all she needs. I have another thread running with a lady in a very similar place, her LO early wakes and is LSN too. Slightly different circumstances, as her LO's day was too long, but you could have a read and see what Kate had to say to this lady. You could be EW kindred spirits  ;) ::).

Re: Is there any hope?

I hope that WU can stabilise at 5.30 Hun, that extra 30/45 minutes is such a big deal when you need it so badly.

((HUGS))

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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2015, 19:24:19 pm »
Can I try extending further? To be honest my evenings are shorter now, but I'm craving more morning bed time:)
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2015, 20:25:23 pm »
Quote from: ewapeters on January 10, 2015, 19:24:19 pm
Can I try extending further?

Sorry, in what way Hun  ???

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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2015, 21:26:49 pm »
I tried something new last night and my habitual EW got to 6.30!!!! It was a plug in night light as I thought his room seemed q dark and wondered if become disorientated in the early hours. It's only been 1 night so I'll report back...

Fri was 4.15 :-( the worst so far. During xmas hols we managed two 6am starts but everything else was pre 6am.

Our schedule is v similar to yours except sometimes I get longer naps (but on my 2 work days tend to be short ones). I try not to put down for nap before 11.15 regardless. Hoping just to wait it out. My SIL's 3 kids have all been the same and grew of it
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2015, 22:54:31 pm »
Plug in the night light? I am sorry what has actually happened? LO has black out blinds as har room is on the sunny side of house and it doesn't get dark until 9 pm. Sun rises at 6 so she is up way before it is light most of the time.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2015, 09:57:09 am »
Hi there, just a couple of thoughts - I think you've been getting fantastic advice from pps, have you been keeping her in bed when she EWs? I know that Marti discussed with you above that you should treat as a NW and sleep train for those EWs until your "agreed"WU time. What WU time are you aiming for?

For a LSN lo that nap is still quite early in the day, and as others have said her overall sleep is pretty good, it just seems to be at a less than convenient time. When you moved time zones, did you move her sleep gradually or just go with a drastic change overnight? If the latter, it might be worth trying something more drastic as she obviously copes with that.

Also, you do seem concerned that teething is playing a part. I would say that even if she is uncomfortable from teething, that isn't likely to be as constant as the daily EWs. Have you tried doing w2s perhaps rather than by stirring her properly, using the time to DF her some medicine (calpol or ibuprofen equivalents). This would enable you to rule out pain as a cause and also might help with the EWs. Then you can go for a much later nap and a much later Bt, moving the day by two hours as if you were travelling time zones, and stick with it. See how she gets on.

Potentially radical, but if the gently gently approach hasn't worked, might be worth thinking about?
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2015, 11:02:08 am »
Yes I have been keeping her in bed at least until 5:30 when I take blinds down and show her that it is getting light outside, she gets very excited as I allow her to look out the window. I have also noticed that when she wakes up she is sort of fine, obviously complaining and calling me, but it gets worse when I go in. I picked her up couple of times and gave her cuddle and explain that birds are still asleep so it is still sleep time.
BT have drastically improved and after 4 days of screaming she got the message. Today she woke up at 5:40 so let's see if it will start improving.
Moving across time zones was simple, we travelled to Thailand, then Bali and two weeks later to Melbourne so it sort of happened gradually. She lost a little bit of sleep but adjusted well and after 1 week she was ok. So you see she takes changes well and probably would be able to survive on 12 hours a day, extremely LSN.  Yes I have been giving her ibuprofen at 12 am but I have noticed it only last her for 5 hours max. She also napped from 12-13 today. I am sorry for hectic message but on iphone.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2015, 16:17:57 pm »
What about not giving the ibuprofen until 2am ish and seeing if that extends until a later WU.

Also, she probably is actually ready to start the day at 5/5.30 because she's been in bed for over 11 hours. It would seem to me if you want a later WU you do have to shift the day. If you say she did well with the time change befor why not just fix Bt at 7pm and nap two hours later than you're doing now and see how she gets on?
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2015, 19:30:54 pm »
She falls asleep pretty much around 18:45-19, and naps around 12-12-30 and I cannot imagine nap at 14:00, I think 6,5 hours is just about max she can do.
She woke up again at 5:40 so things are moving slightly. I think I will be fine once we get to 6 am wake up, I would like to avoid 8 pm BT as it is very late so maybe push to 19:30 at some point. Ibuprofen at 2am makes sense, I thought of that, Im just worried that I will not be able to go back to sleep, but definitely will give it a go. Thanks for your help.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2015, 13:14:15 pm »
Hi there, just popping in as I have an extreme lsn baby too! I can totally get keeping bedtime on the early side for now, we don't because we have much older kids and DD3 is kind of set at 8 pm for bedtime and has been since she went to one nap. We get 6:30/7:00 wake ups (mostly the early time, rarely 7:00 - in fact I thought she was sleeping in today but I just heard a soother go flying!). If you are good with the slow and steady shift then I would keep at what you are doing (I am one who does things in one go, so far has never backfired on me yet!). One thing though, when she ew do you always take her out of her bed and snuggle? I know with my DD that would totally reinforce an ew, for the most part now I just lay on the floor below the crib and offer reassurance with my voice during nw & ew.
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Re: 15 months old EW
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2015, 14:24:08 pm »
Hi, a success at last. LO now goes to bed around 7-7:15 and wakes up around 6-6:15. We are happy with that. I was at some point giving her cuddle just to keep her in the room, then I was taking blinds down showing her light outside. At some point I stopped picking her up as she started sleeping longer, bur stll keep her in bed if crying , but usually for around 10 min and then I undo the blinds. I think she got the message. Unfortunately teeting is still a nightmare so baby nurofen helps.
To summarise: thanks everyone
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