March/April Thread #3

[sophieandhannah]

Hey girls...
Bec I was just asking if anyone was chatting at the regular Wed.  chat time...will you be there?
tmi warning...
ever since I had Sophie, I have been a major puker.  I puke at just about anything.  Before I had Sophie I never puked.  I would rather do just about anything than puke.  And funny enough I only puked once while pg.
Could this be hormonal? 
Sophie had huge issues going down for her second nap.  I thought I was being all smart waiting until 1:30pm to put her down (after a little over 3 hours of A time) but she just crawled around and around her crib.  I did pu/pd or about 1 hour...She finally hit her head on the bars enough times and was overtired enough that she started wailing so I went in and picked her up.  Well, for some reason my picking her up coincided with a major dizzy spell which ended in a puking spell.
So of course I am trying to do EVERYTHING before tomorrow so I ahve the vaccum out, the carpet steam cleaner out etc, etc...and I am puking and trying to stop Sophie from eating the electrical cords etc....it wzs a total nightmare.
So I finally stop puking long enough to make her a bottle (she had been trying to sleep for so long it was now E time) which she didn't want, and then, I started puking again!  Thankfully this time we were downstairs in the clean rooms so I didn't have to redirect her mid pukes.
I finally stop (yup-stop puking) and she is now SUPER over tired...it is now 3:30 2 hours past when I put her down orginally and 1 hour past her 4 hour easy eat time.  I put her back in her crib, clean myself up adn she finally goes to sleep.  WTF? 
So she's been asleep for anout 30 minutes.  I am definately going to wake her by 5 if she doesn't wake up.  I'll give her dinner then go for the regular 6:30 bedtime.  I guess? Any other suggestions?
Of course this WOULD happen the day before work
Oh well.  I am now going to simply relax and do nothing except check this thread.  No more cleaning, puking or pu/pd.  I am done!
Hannah

[sophieandhannah]

BTW- really cute pics of molly.

[Judy]

if he drops something once, I'll get it, but after that, I say, "I guess you didn't want your keys.  Maybe you should have thought of that first."  and then I smack him.  No, I'm just kidding

Kate I was busting a gutt when I read this!!!

Richelle ok I've not wanted to admit to being in the dark on where you are and why.  I remember you were packing up and selling but what's the scoop (again, sorry :oops:)  It throws me off every time I read about how cold it is and then see it says Cayman Islands under your username

Ankie I eventually go to 3 milk feeds by just offering them at meal times.  With Zoe it was breakfast, lunch and then bedtime at 7pm rather than dinner.  With Sarah we much sooner moved it to dinner with no bottle at bedtime because Zoe started to think it would be a good idea to reinstate a bedtime bottle for her.  Sarah never flinched on it.  She was well over a year before we did the last one at supper.  Can't remember when we moved to just three bottles......  at some point though I just dropped the 3pm bottle.  I can look it up in my baby book later though (nursing right now)

Roz my dh is a mechanical design engineer.  Designs special purpose machines for an automotive company (Siemens).  He doesn't really travel all that often...  he had a project in Mexico when Zoe was a baby and before that had him travelling a lot for a couple years but really nothing since then until now.  We had some troubles in my pregnancy with Sarah early on... then she was very sick in hospital for 3weeks at 4months then I was pregnant with the twins so his boss has been really good about keeping him home.    So one of his current projects required a machine he could have had built out of the states but his boss wanted the one from Italy instead - so that's why he went there.

Holly as for yogurt I use a plain high fat yogurt - it's green and white the container - I'd just look for anything plain with a really high MF % (like 3+ or 5 if you can find it)

Bread/toast - Hayley why white bread?  I always thought it should be whole wheat breat - less gummy therefore less likely to get stuck.  And to toast it at least a bit to make it more rough and less gummy again.

Zoe didn't cut her first tooth till 9months and then only had two till after a year.  She ate lots of stuff just fine - just gummed it up good.

Hannah that seems like a lot of puking... have you asked the dr. about it? 

And as for hormones and overreacting....  HA!!!!  Count me in.

[Colesmom]

hey judy-thought i'd reply on behalf of richelle. hope you don't mind richelle.  the day she moved house in Cayman was the same day she left to visit her folks in Saskatoon for 2 weeks (i think two weeks).  So it's saskatoon that's cold   she'll go home to her new house and i'm sure DH will have everything unpacked, sorted out and gleaming, right richelle :wink:

[Judy]

Thanks Traci.  I knew I missed a vital piece of info.  Yes, Saskatchewan - I worked with a guy once who told me that Saskatchewan was where you could watch your dog run away for two days!! (because it's SO flat - for those non-Cdns among us )

[Erin M]

I worked with a guy once who told me that Saskatchewan was where you could watch your dog run away for two days!!

LMAO Judy....that struck me as very funny....and Kate, your comment about smacking Ryan too. 

Ladies, I SO hear you about the headlights -- I may never be able to wear a non-padded bra again....though I'm still BF 2x a day - and bottle feeding 2x a day as well - though Katie has less and less interest in her lunchtime bottle, can hardly get her to take any of it....guessing that will be the first to go.  I do think my boobs have shrunk a bit since going to the 2 BFs per day. 

Michelle - love the pictures, Molly is adorable.

Holly - lovely pics, can't remember if I mentioned it before. 

Very interesting to hear the conversation about finger foods - Katie has had Cheerios, teething biscuits, Gerber fruit puffs, bread crusts, peas, banana, crackers, and a tortilla chip the other day!  I would like to start giving her whatever we're having, but we've been eating like crap lately so I'm avoiding it at the moment. 

Hannah - Hope your puking goes away - do you think it's just nerves from going back to work?  Emotions do some crazy things.  If it doesn't stop soon, I would definitely get it checked out.  Is tomorrow the day or is it next week?  Will be thinking of you headed back to work.

Ankie - I second the notion of seeing you feeding Arwyn from chopsticks. 

Traci - best of luck in the middle of the night.  Stay strong! 

Kate - glad to hear that all is well with the sleeping.  Katie is getting a few teeth these days, so she's been up roughly once a night for the past few nights.  Not a big deal.  We do the Orajel/Tylenol as well and she's generally back to sleep.  Fingers crossed that trend continues. 

Anyway, haven't done the cards yet - am just getting the proofs for our pictures, and then I have to get copies, so I apologize in advance for the fact that they're probably going to get to you folks overseas a bit late.   Once I get the pictures, they'll be on their way though!

Have good nights/days everyone!

[james030405]

Hi everyone,

we do a lot of finger foods - bits of dirt off the floor, tinsel of the christmas tree, dog biscuits, crumbs...........I could go on :lol:  :lol:  :lol: No really, I made eggy bread today for lunch and cut them into "fingers"and James loved these, otherwise I use things like cucumber, sweet potato chips, toast... really anything that he eats.  I made the meatballs of the recipe page and I usually cook a couple extra and he uses these as finger foods as well.  cheese is another good one, or pieces of fruite ie watermelon, or any type of melon, apple, pears etc.

Well, I thought I had the perfect routine and it had been working brilliantly for the last 2 weeks and then he changes everything :? I don't know if it is the hot whether or not, but he cannot stay awake as long as usual and he is up earlier too. 5am IS JUST DOWN RIGHT RIDICULOUS!!!! :x   Who in their right mind would voluntarily get up this early.  LOL :lol:  :lol:

In regards to saying "NO", how do you do it without laughing afterwards?  I am doing this with James and the Christmas tree and he just looks up at you andlaughs ( :lol: ) and it is so hard not to laugh back!

Michelleand Holly - great pictures.

Tracy: I don't knowif this is possible (or if it has been mentioned before) but can DH get up in thenight instead of you?  That way you don't have to feel like you have to feed.   :oops: Sorry if this has already been suggested.

Hope everyone else has better days/nights.

Chat soon

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala

[Little Bear's Mum]

Ok - I have to say it, Hannah are you sure you're not 'with child' again. I won't use the word incase it's a jinx!  :oops:  :lol: Even though  you may have been fine the first time, it's not always the same 2nd time round. I'm sure you're not, but I had to say something. It's probably just nerves.

Judy, not sure about why white bread. Just what I was told by a nurse.

Lisa, I totally understand how AWFUL 5am is. I see it on my clock all too often. He's getting better and learning that mummy doesn't get up to him at 5am. Doesn't always work though.

Gotta go and get ready. DH and I are off to the movies tonight to see the opening night of "Chronicles of Narnia" he won tickets to the opening so even better. Unfortunately it's in Palmerston North not THE big opening in Auckland with the red carpet. Oh well, it's the movie that matters.

Ta ta!!!!

[Olivia's Mommy]

OK, girls. I'm finally back after a marathon afternoon...took Olivia with me to get my hair cut (first time I've braved it with her). My best friend went with me to "babysit" while I got my hair cut. (She got hers cut right before me.) Liv did GREAT. Just sat on my friend's lap and played. Then DH stopped on his way home from work and took Liv home for dinner, bath and bed while my friend and I went to dinner and then shopping. I so needed it!

So here's my non-BW story: I was talking to a friend this morning. She has a DS 3 wks older than Liv. She asked if we were going to a certain Christmas program and I said we'd like to, but it starts at Olivia's bedtime, so we won't be going. She said, "I wish [DS] would go to bed earlier." (This is the same girl who asked me once, "Do you put Olivia to bed that early, or does she just go?"....WHAT?!?!?) 

Come to find out, her DS takes a nap around 6:30 or 7:00 p.m., then is up until 10 or 11!! He's still waking 2-3 times a night and eating. She said he wakes up about 7:30 or 8:00 a.m. but she feeds him and rocks him back to sleep because she doesn't want to get up then. So they don't start their day until about 10 or 11. And he rarely takes good naps. She said he'll "only sleep good if you're holding him." For example, her sister was over the other day and they were watching a movie and he fell asleep for 2 hours on her sis! I just thought, yeah cause he's EXHAUSTED!!!! I bit my tongue as long as I could, then she said, "I just don't think I've done a good job of getting him on a routine." (Duh!!) So I tried to suggest BW by telling her how much it helped me and that I'd read other stuff, etc. I was trying so hard to just be helpful and not "preach" at her. (I even told her about the site and how awesome you guys are!) She said she had read BabyWise and she said, "I just didn't agree with telling [DS], it's 10:00 now, so you're hungry...how am I supposed to know when he's hungry? He knows when he's hungry." I tried to "sell" BW to her without coming off too strong, and I finally just said, "It helped me a lot, so if it sounds like something you'd be interested in, you should check it out. Hopefully, it will help you, but ultimately, you're the mom, so you have to decide what works for you guys."

She seemed to appreciate that statement. But what I really wanted to say was, "Do you have any idea what you're doing to your son? And do you know that your life is going to be this chaotic until he goes to school unless you get some sort of routine down!?!?! What is wrong with you!??!" But I didn't. So, hopefully she's still my friend. It's just so hard to talk about LOs with non-BW moms because their whole mindset is completely different! When I got off the phone I was torn between feeling so bad for her and being completely frustrated that she was doing this!

[Olivia's Mommy]

OK, just realized what time it is here...I'm off to bed! G'night all you hottie mamas!!

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Yes, we're advised to do the white bread thing here - apparently whole grain can be too fiberous?  :?  I always did whole grain anyway though since I only heard that once Nathan was already a year old.  In our case probably didn't help with Nathan's coeliac.  :roll:
 
D's turning into Miss Grumpy lately - can't put my finger on it, no bulging gums although I'm sure they could be painful without teeth just ready to pop?  :?  Maybe too much new food?  She doesn't seem to be having any problems with pooing though...

[Nikki~Nathan&Danielle]

Nancy, we posted at the same time.  It is difficult seeing how others are with their kids particularly when you can see where there could be improvement, I think a lot of the time mums just like to "vent" about what their kids are doing rather than asking for help - I think you did great with your responses.    It is so hard to sit back when you know there is a great "kind" method of child rearing out there.  If I find someone is asking for ideas then I leap right in  :wink: .  That's what I love about this site, mums ARE actually asking for ideas and advise so it totally solicited and takes care of my need to help others.   

[Judy]

Oh I meant to add about teeth - both Zoe and Sarah's bottom two teeth are crooked... I've always suspected it was from sucking fingers and thumbs???  I've been reassured by moms with older children that the baby teeth may look awful but the permanent teeth may well be perfect.

[Carter'sMama]

Hello everyone! 

Carter is definitely getting another tooth ... he is soooo cranky.  He basically fusses ALL day!  It looks like his upper left tooth as the gums are red and bulgy!!  He is still sleeping through the night but I am preparing myself. 

I have my work Christmas party tomorrow night and I finally found a babysitter.  A friend of mine (who is a BW mom and has a 10month old)  offered to watch him.  I am always wary of leaving him with someone because no one can put him to sleep besides me (not even DH).  That being said, she did watch him a while back when I went to a concert and she actually got him to sleep.  She had to use a soother which I don't usually give him but I was very surprised!  She also had to use his favorite Sherly Crow song too ...She thought I was nuts when I handed her the CD as I was leaving.  I told her "Just in case ..."  I went looking for something to wear yesterday and I am having the hardest time!!!  Everything fits too weird across the chest   :roll:     I am not used to the added   ummm ... fullness  :shock: !!!!  So, anyway I have to go back tonight to pick something out.  I still have to do Christmas cards for everyone at work and buy the Secret Santa gift.  I am so far behind!!  We always have to buy a $25 gift for someone whos name we draw plus give $15 for a gift for the boss and $10 for this elderly lady who comes in and helps all the time for free ... that's $50 for work alone!!  Does this seem like too much to any one else???  Our boss is so cheap, he pays us horribly.  Plus, because I am on maternity leave I won't even be getting a nice Christmas bonus like everyone else.  I would just stay home but I would be expected to contribute the money anyway.  The dinner is at the Yacht club though (cheapest thing on the menu is like $40) so I figured why not??!!   

On a positive note, DH finally got home from Georgia to help out!  I just get so drained when I am all by myself.   I can't imagine having more than one baby!

As for feeds, we are still on 4 bf's a day plus 3 meals and then cereal before bed.

Hannah:  I know what you mean abou the slippers!  Carter also loves to chew on his own shoes.  He gets so excited when he sees me get out his Robeez because as I soon as I put them on, he takes them off to chew.  Check out the picture!!!

Richelle:  I get baby food at Zehrs (grocery store) or Walmart.  I make most of my own but when I have to buy some (mainly prunes) that is where I go.    I do have the darkening blinds in Carter's room.  He sleeps much better with them.  As for finger foods and self feeding ... about all Carter can maage is an arrowroot cookie!!!  He is not so good about finger foods and I haven't been offering very many.  ALot of the finger foods that I want to give have either milk or egg in them which he is allergic too 

Traci:  Stay strong!!  You can do it (LOL - Adam Sandler movie)!!!!

****** Don't mind the goofy outfit in the picture!  MIL knit it and called to ask why she didn't have any pictures of him in it  :shock:  :roll:  :shock:
Can you tell why??  I know, I know ... he looks pretty funny, but cute!!
So we took a picture to send her!  He just had to grab his Robeez and start eating it!!!

[Erin M]

Cathy - ROFLMAO at your pic and MIL's outfit.  I don't see why you don't put him in that all the time.  That picture might be great blackmail one day.  I actually laughed so hard that Katie laughed too. 

Nancy - YIKES for your friend.  You really sound like you did a good job of not being judgemental/preachy.  Maybe she'll take you advice and figure it out. 

Crooked teeth - Katie's are crooked,  but then again, so are mine (despite having braces twice) and so are DH's, so I wasn't really expecting much there.  I think I'd be surprised if they were straight. 

Bec - lovely pics - your possums look nothing like our possums here.  Ours look more like giant rats (though they're relatively rare in NJ, when I lived in the South they were everywhere!). 

Nikki - It's funny, I was reading something the other day that said that you should give your kids whole grain so they don't get used to white bread too early on.  Hope you find out what's bothering Miss Grumpypants. 

Lisa - Katie's idea of "finger food" is very similar to James'.  I'm getting tired of fishing things out of her mouth. 

Katie is very snotty today - hope she's not getting sick AGAIN.  The perils of daycare I guess, even if it is only twice a week.  At least she'll have one strong immune system by the time she gets to school (right?....please tell me there's some positive to all this). 

Bye for now!