Author Topic: He wont take more (Read 3570 times)

elliotlove · « **on:** March 08, 2006, 18:35:13 pm »

My 3 month old will sleep for an average of 7 hour stretches. Once he did 9 hours. He has done 7 hours since 2 months old...and I really feel he should be "upping" his stretch to an average of 8 or 9 hours.

He goes down at 6:30pm and does a DF at 10 and is hungry by 1am or 2 (if Im lucky!) and takes 4 oz.....sometimes he'll take 3 more oz around 4am. AFter this he wakes at 5am for seeminly no reason.....then again around 6am.......ugh

Naturally I assume he needs 7 more oz during the day.. However, he is on 3 hour EASY and usually doesnt take more than 3 oz at a time! I cant seem to get him to eat more no matter how hard I try. I have tried tanking him up at 5pm - 6:30pm ...should I try tanking him earlier (around 4pm?) and forget the 3 hour rule?

Also, would changing his nipple to a faster flow help? I just noticed I havent switched to the nipple that says "3mo+"

Lªuren · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2006, 19:56:11 pm »

elliotlove I was going to suggest a fast nipple before I reached the bottom of your post

If that is too fast try and put a small hole in the current one you are using so you have a happy-medium for a while- he should not gag on the teat because of fast flow milk.

He could also be waking at 5am becasue he thinks that is his wake up time, you say you have in in bed at 1830.

It is common for LO to be up twice a night at this age, mine was - he has only recently started sleeping through.

How long have you done a d/feed?
Have you tried a night without the d/f to see if he still wakes at 1 or 2am - I never did a d/feed for this very reason.

Lªuren · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2006, 09:03:46 am »

elliotlove how are you getting on with this?

elliotlove · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2006, 18:08:02 pm »

Its getting there. We are moving to a 4hour routine, so its a bit of a struggle and he needs to eat about 10oz more during his feeds.
Here is our day so far.....and EAS isnt in a good order yet.
He is eating a lot at night. Last night he went to bed at 7:30. We did a DF at 10pm and he had 4 oz....however, he woke up an hour later (11pm) and took 7oz! grrr
Then he woke at 3am hungry but I gave him watered down formula - 4oz (like that email you sent me, I gave him double the water and half the formula) so that he would eat in the morning. As you can see he had 5oz but he needs to be eating more like 7oz
Any advice?

woke 6:30 am (not hungry)
E 7:30 5oz
A
S 8:30 - 9:50

A
E 11:15 7oz
A
S 11:50 - right now its 1:10 and he's still sleeping

Lªuren · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2006, 18:10:30 pm »

do you think he had his feeds swapped, i.e eating what he should be during the day and vice-versa?

elliotlove · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2006, 18:45:37 pm »

yes - he is eating a lot in the late afternoon til midnight. Dont know how to break the cycle...?? Do you think I should water down all night bottles after the DF? Im afraid if I do this he will be waking all night?

elliotlove · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2006, 19:01:19 pm »

although something is going right. he took his frist 2.5 hour nap today....so things are changing

Lªuren · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2006, 19:07:23 pm »

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=54381.0

have a look at hthis

elliotlove · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2006, 20:39:11 pm »

Thank you
So do you think that I should keep his DF the same (let him take as much as he can) and then any time he wakes after this reduce the amount by an oz or so?

Lªuren · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2006, 21:36:27 pm »

Yes, let me know how you get on. It may be worthwhile PMing Skibbit to see if theres anything else you need to do

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=17153

elliotlove · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2006, 21:44:04 pm »

I just Pmed her....
you've been so helpful to me!! I cant tell you how much it means to me and how much I appreciate it!!

Do you mind if I keep you informed?
Courtney

Lªuren · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2006, 21:47:46 pm »

Yes, let me know how your getting on

elliotlove · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:04:06 am »

okay....so today elliot did well. schedule:
woke (6:15 but I didnt feed him right away as I want him to be on a 7am schedule)

E 7am 5oz
A
S 8:40 - 10:10

A
E 11am 5.5oz
A
S 12 - 2

A
E 2:30 6oz
A
S 4 - 5

A
E 5:45
S 6:15

soo, I was feeling pretty good about this day....but then at 8:10 he woke up crying. Not hungry....just woke and wanted his binkie. I am feeling discouraged. I thought he would sleep for awhile. I feel like I am in for it tonight

Lªuren · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2006, 09:38:34 am »

Courtney stick with it, these changes will take a while to settle down (poss. up to a week or more), you are making huge progress. How did he get on the rest of the night??

Your doing great

elliotlove · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2006, 14:11:46 pm »

things didnt go well last night,but get this, I think he has been hot!! We swaddle him and put a sleeper outfit on him and when he woke I thought he was wet...but it was sweat! we took the outfit off of him, turned down the heat and re-swaddled and he slept better...but this whole night was disturbed, so he was still up a little.
He wasnt hungry all night though, didnt eat at all after the DF!

This morning he woke at 7am and he had 5oz....very consistent. I am feeling very optimistic! He stayed up for almost 2hrs and is napping now.

thank you for your encouragement!

elliotlove · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2006, 01:09:01 am »

well, the day went well today - nap times were inconsistent, but he was well rested....
today he took 5oz,7,5,7 just like that. He went down at 6:30 and I heard him crying at 8:00. I put the binkie in and he went right back to sleep....
I know I shouldnt "rush in" but Im afraid he'll just work himself up to a good cry if I dont.
thoughts?

Lªuren · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2006, 12:00:23 pm »

Courtney how long are you leaving him to fuss before rushing in? If you leave him he may surprise you.

You can only try it

elliotlove · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2006, 13:56:49 pm »

Another awful and baffling night.
elliot fed well all day.....Went down at 6:30. He was up crying at 9, 10:30, 12, 2:30, 3:30....4? 5? I loose track.
He is not hungry either....
I think Ive been trying to keep him awake for too long between naps because BW says they should go 2 hours or at least 1.75. Ive tried carrying him all over the house and singing to him towards naptime. No stimulation...but I really think its too much for him

This morning he woke at 7:20 and ate.........by 8:30 I could see how tired he was. I started to wind down, swaddled him, and placed him in his crib eyes open at 8:40. He moved around for about 1 minute or 2 and then was off to dream land. How can this be "wrong"? He is tired. I also think he is a 3.5 hour EASY baby right now. Not 4.
I cant take these nights anymore and I feel like Im failing

elliotlove · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2006, 13:58:12 pm »

PS - when he cried at 10:30 last night I waited and listened, but his cries only escalated.
The other night he was doing "waaa, waaa" real weak and I didnt respond and he went to sleep...but most times it is NOT like this

Lªuren · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2006, 14:05:09 pm »

I would follow yoiur LO's cues, you are in the middle of the transition stage to 4hrs. It may just take longer thant the 2 week guide to get there. Stick with 3.5hr if its easier.

Quote from: elliotlove on March 21, 2006, 13:58:12 pm

PS - when he cried at 10:30 last night I waited and listened, but his cries only escalated.
The other night he was doing "waaa, waaa" real weak and I didnt respond and he went to sleep...but most times it is NOT like this

yes, this is the mantra cry, all one tone.

Was he maybe too hot/cold?

Did you get anymore info about the feeds being mixed for night and day?

elliotlove · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2006, 14:32:48 pm »

I am feeling a little more positive $:-\$ - I watched on the video monitor during the intruder and he wiggled himself back to sleep. not even a wimper.

For the last week he has cried during the intruder for every nap and I have been popping in the binkie............But not today and I think its because I put him down for his nap sooner........( I was worried it was becoming a prop)

I dont hear the mantra cry often.....and the time that I heard it the other night I knew instantly that this was a cry I would not respond to. ITs very different sounding

I really feel we have the feedings down....he even refuses the DF.....(actually he has been waking around 10:30 so I just do it then) He fusses at it and only takes 3 oz..doesnt seem that interested. On the times Ive tried feeding him again at 3am or 4 he does not want it.

elliotlove · « **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2006, 14:38:49 pm »

sooo...what is your opinion on yesterday??

woke at 7
E7:30 (5oz)
A
S 8:40 - 11:30

E 11:30 (only 4.5oz)
A
S 1:20 - 2:50

E 3:00 7oz
A
S 4:15 - 5:00

A bath
E
S 6:00 7oz

He woke at 9:30 and 12:30am for 5 oz feedings......he still needs more during the day! urrrghhh. I just dont know how to do it

Lªuren · « **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2006, 15:47:47 pm »

Looking good

To try an increase day feeds have you tried;

give a 5 - 10min rest in the feed?

Try and give a bit of the last bottle before the bath and remaing after?

Calum was waking at 2am & 5am at this stage (without d/f)

Have you considered the dreamfeed?

Sorry for delay in getting back to you for some reason my email notification is NOT working

elliotlove · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2006, 18:47:59 pm »

I like the 5 - 10 minute idea, am going to try that - thank you.

I dont do a DF because he always wakes around 9:30 - 11 and when he does I feed him....so thats the "dream feed" I guess.

He only stays up an hour after his catnap in the evening, so I dont give him any bottle before the bath because Im so afriad an hour later he wont be hungry for more....?
what do you think

Lªuren · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2006, 09:42:37 am »

Let me know how you get on with the 5-10min rest. It may be worth trying the bottle with him before bath, you may be surprised.

(my notifications still don't work

)
lauren

Lªuren · « **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2006, 18:35:00 pm »

Elliotlove how are you getting on now?

Lauren

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