I am so glad you posted this as I have been rereading the sleep interview and I cannot figure out what this means. In addition, I am confused about what the different sleep stages are (have seen conflicting info about this). Also, what are we supposed to be doing during the 20 minutes? Patting and shushing? Just standing there? My dd is 9 weeks old - if someone could please explain concisely the patting and shushing I would appreciate it. I have both books but I can't seem to wrap my brain around what I should be doing and I am sure I am doing it wrong now... Thanks!!!