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is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« on: February 22, 2008, 16:38:12 pm »
Hi, my 4 month dd has become fussy during diaper changes, when I wipe her nose, etc.  Is it too early to use a stern tone of voice to tell her she has to tolerate things like this?  Although I feel frustrated with her at times, I am afraid stray from sweet and caring because I often misread her cues and it sometimes is her reflux acting up, or tiredness, etc.

Also, when she is playing alone and she looks up from her toys to smile at me, should I join her?  Or should I just smile back at her and wait for her to go back to playing independently?  Thanks so much!

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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 16:46:47 pm »
TBH I wouldnt use a stern tone of voice with a 4 month old.  During a diaper change she is probably fussy cause her bits are getting cold KWIM and lets face it its no fun to have someone wipe your nose :P.  I would just reassure her and go as quick as possible. 

Definitley ok to play with her and still be able to encourage independant play.  If he is engaging you I would play for a bit and then back off again KWIM?


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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 16:50:10 pm »
Try giving her a toy to play with while you change her, sing to her, make faces...
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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 16:55:48 pm »
I totally agree with PP's.  Remember DD is just trying to communicate and engage you in her own way just like adults do.  So this is more about socialisation at this age than discipline. She sounds like a smart cookie already! Very social and expressive.  :)

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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 17:27:09 pm »
With the nose wiping/face wiping my LO used to really object but I did it as gently and efficiently as I could with lots of praise when it was all over and now he doesn't fuss at all (well just sometimes ;)). Keep talking to her too, tell her what you are doing and what is coming next.

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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 16:11:15 pm »
 I think distracting your lo is a great idea, and just continuing to do what you need to do while maintaining a loving, sweet tone of voice will get the point across to your lo that you're going to do what needs to be done no matter how much complaining she does.  What you want to avoid, I think, is giving in to the complaining--because then it teaches your lo that she can manipulate you.   
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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 20:15:02 pm »
Right now the only way your DD can communicate is with crying.  It's so hard to think of crying as communication -- it's unpleasant to the ears, and we're conditioned over years to regard other children's crying as annoying or as them acting 'spoiled'.

But at this young age, they have little control over their bodies except for their voice! She can't really use her hands very well, she can kick her legs, but it's random kicking not controlled.  So the only way she can really react much is to use crying.

Distraction is the best way to deal with babies, really until 18 months old distraction will be your main tool!  I think using a stern voice doesn't work very well anyway, for the most part.  Children respond better to honey than to vinegar, if you know what I'm saying!  ;) 

You'll find that if you sing to her, use fun rhymes, or make funny faces that will quickly get her to stop whining or crying while doing those unpleasant things.  And really, who can blame her? It's no fun to have someone putting cold wet things on your bum or to wipe at your nose which is a very sensitive spot. heck, I whine to myself when I blow my *own* nose -- it often hurts!  ;)

You'll get so good at distraction over the next year.  You'll learn the things that absorb your DD and things that don't really phase her or interest her.  For diaper changes, what's always worked best for my son is singing a song where I insert his name in the lyrics.  So, "Old MacDonald" becomes "Owen Finn had a farm".  That makes him giggle. She won't recognize much, but she will learn her name over time and that will really please her.  Another good thing to do during diaper changes is to tickle/kiss/nuzzle toes.  That is very pleasurable.  I usually start a diaper change with that stuff, then once he's giggling and happy we quickly change the diap while singing, then end with a cuddle. 
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Re: is it too early to discipline a 4 month old with tone of voice?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 04:03:36 am »
I am a newbie but sounds like some great ideas have been suggested for you! I also found that counting as I dressed my lo helped e.g as one arm is dressed 1... then second arm 2.... I think my lo just likes any engagement talking, singing... good luck! ::)

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