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EAT => Food Allergies => Topic started by: ~Emma~ on January 11, 2012, 14:13:30 pm
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We are on yet another dairy trial. Over the last few days she has had custard, soft cheese and this morning I put UHT cows milk on to her weetabix. :-X
No reactions so far but she's always been more cumulative iykwim. keep your fingers crossed! I'm just posting here to have a record for myself more than anything!
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Good luck!
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Fingers crossed xxx
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good luck x
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I hope it goes well! It sounds like your off to a good start.
Kelly x
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Thanks ladies. So 1 x NW last night at 9pm and an EW, well after an 11 hour night when she's consistantly been doing 12....not complaining about the length of the night really but they are usually the first thing to shorten. Naps have become erratic but I suspect thats more of an A issue so not counting that.
Her face is starting to look a wee bit bumpy. Y'know just before an eczema breakout it goes quite dry and uneven? Sort of pimply looking. Nothing on her body as of yet. She is farting more than normal but atleast its coming out kwim rather than getting trapped in there.
Mmmmmmmmm. I will keep going though. She had some custard as well yesterday. Today she had milk on her cereal but only had a couple of spoonfuls as I think she's just not used to the taste of milk! For the weekend I have put a pasta bake on the menu...with cheese and everything! God, its been so long since I've hadf a melty-cheesey pasta bake. I cannot wait! ;D
Time will tell...
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Good Luck Emma x
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Ugh. NW at 3am for 2 hours last night. SHe was VERY gassy and crunching her legs up. Still no outbreak on her skin though apart from the dry skin on her face.
WWYD? Continue? Perhaps its just her wee guts getting used to the dairy and not intolerant as such kwim?
This stinks.
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With R, things got worse after a few days and rather than cut back completely i cut back the amount for a few days. So rather than milk in cereal and cheese and yogurt, I only gave one and then after a few days gradually increased the amount again.
We are still in the midst of getting her used to dairy but she is coping much better with it now.
So maybe do some dairy today and over the weekend and then up the quantity again on monday?
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I think I'm going to cut out the milk for another week or two and stick to yogurts, cheese and her favourite...CUSTARD! ;D
DH and I are on the saame page about it so thats good, we have both agreed that we will keep little bits of dairy going in and not rein back completely yet again. She was doing so well for the last few days and last night she was a nightmare, its always at night it manifests worse. Poor soul. Although I am still being open minded and thinking last night could just as well have been down to teeth as she's cutting molars right now. :-\
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Milk always caused the worst reactions here. In fact thinking back I did cheese and yogurts and hidden dairy for quite a few weeks before i did milk on cereal and even then that was a lot and i did sips of milk first then bigger amount in cereal.
R was up about 50 times last night with her silly 10 teeth that are popping through. UGH!
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D the same wih the teeth. Only got 4 atm and I think she's working on another few...just very slowly. :(
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When I re-introduced dairy myself it took a good few days for my body to adjust, and that was not cows milk, just cheese, etc. I def agree that cows milk is the worst, and starting with cheese, or even biscuits etc that contain dairy would be good.
Poor wee thing :(
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Only 1 x NW last night, a fairly long one...cant really remember though so it couldn't have been that bad. She didn't have much in the way of dairy yeasterday though because she refused her dinner that had cheese in it. ::)
Her face is still looking pretty bumpy but not a mark on her skin otherwise. :) Nappies are fine too.
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Yeah, I don't do much dairy myself and I find when I do it bothers me...from what I have read, if you are off dairy for a long time you develop temporary lactose intolerance, perhaps that is what is bothering her?
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could just be a temp lactose intolerence :)
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Didn't even think of the lactose intolerance. Whats the deal with that?
SO tonight she had some risotto with a scattering of parmesan on top then a few wee spoonfuls of custard. Her face went bright red and some patches of bad skin came up on her arms, it was seriously so fast. She has had custard a few times though so I'm pretty stumped.
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Hmm, that is odd, sounds like an allergy to be that fast. I would have thought that parmesan being an aged cheese would have not been that bad for her. Wonder if somehting else crept in? No idea what though. x
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It does sound like an allergy...was there anything else in it she hadn't had before?
As for the lactose intolerance, I think it is just that your body has to get used to it after being off it for so long, so for me I am not actually lactose intolerant, but due to not eating dairy I have made my body that way and I would have to ease back in to dairy and then I would be fine.
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I have no idea what caused that last night. ??? After that she just started farting like a maniac! :o She was fine in herself though. The redness on her face and on her arms went down in about 20mins.
A couple of NW last night but really easy to settle again so not sure whats going on here. She had a wee bit if cheese today and yet more custard with fruit. (I know, I know easy on the custard Emma! She loves it though!) Tomorrow I am going to try yoghurt. We will see what tonight brings.
She has also been a little constipated today. :(
WWYD? Keep going?
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I would keep at it if it were me and jsut keep going very slowly. R was quite constipated but seems to be coping much better. We did need some laxitives at a stage to help though.
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It has been over a week now you have been trialling? A few NWs but they are getting better? I would keep going . You have come this far x
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I'm jumping in to hold your hand too Emma - and reading with great interest, since some day we too will be trialing dairy (right now it's just me that's trying a wee bit of yogurt and hidden milk).
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She has been awake on and off since 3am...up for the day at 5.30am depsite my best efforts to get her back down. Not a happy bunny, was crunching her legs the entire time. SHe seems fine though during the day.
I'm just not convinced here. It has been over a week of the the trial and tbh she's not even had that much dairy but it does seem to be affecting her tummy. I just dont know when to call it a bust. :-\ I can handle the NW but I cant handle the fact that she's in discomfort when I know I can stop the dairy and she wont be kwim?
Ugh, this is so hard to decide whats for the best. The dietician is great but she basically says its my call. I hate that pressure.
Thanks for helping me through this. :-*
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Initially a little dairy can be tough on your tummy - I had a piece of shortbread one day and really felt my tummy.
I suppose if you are happy that she is not having dairy and cope okay with it then there is no harm keeping her off dairy for a bit longer - M was around 2 (the magic age) when he outgrew it. :-*
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I don't know enough about gradually increasing tolerance to advise. If it were me and she was waking in discomfort I would stop it, but that is just me.
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I don't know enough about gradually increasing tolerance to advise. If it were me and she was waking in discomfort I would stop it, but that is just me.
Same here...Spencer's only symptom now is to get incredibly consitpated, so I have left it for now as it isn't worth it. Really need to try some milk baked into something though as I never have.
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If it were me and she was waking in discomfort I would stop it, but that is just me.
Same here! Mind you my ds has experienced anaphylaxis a few time so I probably more reluctant to carry on with food challenges when there are some symptoms present due to this.
Kelly x
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If she's in obvious discomfort, I'd be tempted to quit as well, wait a month or so (to let it all get out of her system) and then start over again. I'm sooooooooooooooo hesitant on introducing anything with K - dh and my ped keep urging me on, but I just know how awful the pain was for her in the beginning and I'm terrified to go back to that. Right now, she's just getting a teeny bit of eczema on her face, but it's not bothering her, so I'm good with where we are. It really is your decision, and it sounds like gradual is best. Do you think you did too much too soon? could you maybe pull back and just do yogurt for a wee bit, then hidden milk, then custard etc, but on a slower pace than this go around?
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Hi Emma, what did you decide to do? x
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Thanks for checking in on us!
Well I cut right back but was still letting her have a wee drop of parmesan on her pasta and then yesterday I made soup with cheese in it and she gobbled it down, she had the leftovers again today. So we'll see. She is EW atm but apart from that STTN, skin is still clear but she's itchy. I think she's always itchy though. ::)
Yup, Michelle, I think I need to take it a little slower. Its obvioulsy building up in her system over time as she's always fine for the first few days of a dairy trial.
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I'm glad she's back to sttn though - that's progress!!! Here's to hoping she continues to do well with the recent cheese. How long does it usually take when you're doing a dairy trial before she starts having trouble? I'm just curious for when we start trialing.
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Olly gets itchy too and I don't think it is food. I think some LOs have are sensitive to foods are just sensitive in general. Good to hear things are on an even keel again :D
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Michelle - it can take anywhere between 4 and 7 days. What I will say about htis time that it took longer than the other times for the effect to become apparent. Not sure if thats a good thing or not.
Yep, not too worried about thie itching beciase she's generally an itchy wee soul anyways! :(
Well we have just been to a birthday party and i let her eat whatever she liked. She had cheese and sandwiches with butter and some brownie made with butter. Honestly, she has never eaten cakey stuff like that before. It was nice seeing her get really excited about the chocolate. I'll pay for it tonight or tomorrow night no doubt.
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I would say that since it took longer for the reaction this time that it's a good thing. How long does it take her to return to normal after too much dairy? Here's to hoping tonight isn't as bad as you fear. Glad she enjoyed herself though!!
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STTN fine! Although IME it tends to be a few nights later. I am just realising that as a family our diet has changed incredibly and intro'ing dairyis weird for us as we have been so used to not eating creamy pastas or soups so it'll be a while until we are all back at it.
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YAY for a good night!!! May it long continue!!! I hear you on the weirdness of eating dairy again - even now, I just had a yogurt and felt odd even grabbing it from the fridge...
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Yay for the good night! Been reading along, and just wanted to offer some hugs and support. these dairy trials are a challenge to the whole family aren't they?
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Been reading along too as I have no useful advice on the matter. So, just some (((hugs))) and vibes for continued success!
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Erin - I have been meaning to tell you for ages what a sweetheart you are. You are always offering me lovely support. :-* :-* :-*
And of course to you other ladies too. :-* :-* :-*
She had yoghurt tonight so we shall see what tonight brings but I am feeling quite good about our progress even though I have had to rein in and reduce at least I;ve not had to full on eliminate.
Slow and steady wins the race. :P
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Sounds like you're doing brilliantly hun xxx Fingers x'd it continues xxx
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:-* :-* :-* Thanks Charli honey :-* :-* :-*
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Slow and steady wins the race.
yup! I know how it feels to want to rush and reintroduce everything but you will get there soon enough with DD xxx
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Thanks hon. :-*
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It sounds like you're doing great Emma!!!
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Bleurgh, not so great now. We were ticking along ok with little bits here and there, not much really to speak of but she was getting some in.
Then yesterday I made mashed potato with butter and milk in (couldn't resist, its been so long!) and I also let her have a tiny bit of brownie I made and before bed last night two stonking great shiners appreared and her nose and eyes were streaming. She was then up for a record 4 hours last night. :'(
Well, its safe to say she cant tolerate full on dairy yet. She is a mess, her skin has dried up and she's snotty and then there's the bright purple rings around her eyes. Its amazing what a tiny bit of milk can do to these MSPI kids. :'(
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Oh no! (((hugs))) for you both!
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I am so sorry Emma. I hope she feels better soon.
Kelly x
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oh Emma! {{{{{hugs}}}} but I have to admit, mashed potatoes with real butter and milk sounds sooooooooooooooooooooooooo good to me! The silver lining is that you do know now, and you know how far she can go for now, which is better than no dairy at all. little tiny steps, I guess?
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I agree with Michelle - but if it were me, I'd go back to NO dairy at all for at least a few weeks to give her gut a chance to heal. I know it's hard but my little guy is more than 2.5 and still can't tolerate ANY dairy. We're not even trying again till he's 3 since it was such a mess last trial (two months ago). So many hugs!
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Yup, I've cut her off! The wind she is producing is toxic....her poor tummy must be really sore. :'(
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Aww, poor wee girl. I would try again when she is 2 or so as that is often an age they outgrow it (or tolerate better) :-*
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Aww, that's too bad, poor girl! Hopefully 2 is the magic number for her, we are still off dairy at 3.5!
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So sorry Emma :'(. Is she on probiotics alreday? Might help settle her tummy a bit quicker?
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How is your dd now? I hope her symptoms resolve quickly.
{{Hugs}}
Kelly x
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Awww hugs to her for that. I do hope two is the magic number for her too.