Where to start with this huge mess?!

[*foxy*]

He was on ranitidine and then a low dose of omeprazole when I was DF last time so no, he wasn't on effective reflux meds at the same time. I really hope it helps this time!

[*foxy*]

Hi. He's waking every 2 hours until about 4am when he's still staying awake for about an hour - I guess it's still discomfort? It's tough. I could actually deal with waking every 2 hours but that with a long NW on top is too much!!

I'm trying to fit his naps around school drop off and pick up. So he unfortunately has a long first A time which of course leads to a short nap. Today I managed to resettle him and he had 1.5 hours. Usually it 9.30-10.10, then 11.30/45-12.10/25, then 1.30/45-2.10/25 then 4.30-5 although he's not really wanted that last nap - I can get him to sleep but he wakes up as soon as I put him down. I'm not sure the A times are quite long enough but I'm trying to squeeze them in before the school pick up otherwise he's miserable.

Today has been 9.15-10.45, and he's just gone to sleep for the second nap at 1pm. Trying to get as long a nap as I can.

[jessmum46]

What are your drop-off and pick up times? Just wondering if we could rejig things a bit to at least get you some decent A times and three naps rather than four?  I'm not sure the short As are helping your nights now....

[*foxy*]

Hi. Managed 2 1.5 hour naps yesterday - 9.15-10.45 and 1-2.30. I had to be there throughout to make sure he stayed asleep. He wouldn't settle for the last nap so had a really long last A time but seemed ok. Last night was as usual - awake 1 hour after BT then every 2 hours and then up 4.30-5.30 (quite gassy), then awake at 6 resettled until 6.40.

Drop off is 8.50 so we leave the house at 8.30. He's awake between 6.15am and 6.30am usually. Pick up is 3.15 so I leave at 3.

[jessmum46]

He shouldn't be far off managing 2h30-45 A time now so I guess if WU stays at 6.30ish you should be able to get him down for nap one when you get back from the preschool run.  Great that you got a 1.5h nap, the A time can't have been far wrong . So if you did something like 9/9.15-10.30/45 then 1/1.15 to 2.30/45 then a CN at 5ish?  Possibly just a case of riding it out a bit longer until he can handle those A times consistently?

[*foxy*]

Thanks Katherine. That would he great if he could do that. I'll try and aim for it. He managed 1hr 15 all on his own today! I didn't have to resettle after 40 mins.

He wouldn't nap again at 4.30pm. He'd had a 30 min nap, 2-2.30pm so had a 2 hour A time but just kept grinning at me. Kept him up and he was fine! He had a bath etc. BT was 6.30! He woke after 1hr 20 hungry.

He's still awake at 4.20am though and is so unsettled - think that's discomfort though.

[*foxy*]

Hi. DS is now waking at around 5/5.30, today it was 5.40! Lots of NW's still. I think a lot of it is due to him needing me to get back to sleep or he likes sleeping next to me. I'd like to start gentle sleep training but not sure how to go  about it? Currently he feeds to sleep or he'll suck on my finger whilst I hold him. 

He has a very long first A time. His first nap isn't until 9am! Then he's having a 1.5-2 hour nap (with my help) 2nd nap is around 1/1.30. He had 1hr 15 mins yesterday, I had to wake him up for the school run I then try a CN at about 4.30/5 but he doesn't usually settle which means he's OT at BT.

How does that look? It's not ideal I know. It'd be great if he'd wake a bit later first thing. Could it be that OT at BT? He's always gassy and then does a poo at 5/5.30am

[jessmum46]

Naps look ok, pity about the CN though.  Can you invent a reason to be out in the car?  If not, can you get him into bed for 5.30/6pm?  I would guess that OT is likely to be a factor in the early WU. 

Sleep training wise, does he respond to shh pat?  Have you ever had a look at Pantleys gentle removal plan?

[*foxy*]

Hi. Managed to get a CN in today for 40 mins. He seems really tired so BT is 6.15pm. We'll see if it helps at all.
I've had a look at the gentle removal plan - I'll look again and maybe start doing that. He likes his bottom being patted but is desperate to suck to help settle him.

[jessmum46]

Does he have a lovey or perhaps could you start to introduce one?  DS sucks his thumb but also sucks on the corners of a comfort blanket.

[*foxy*]

Yes. We could introduce one definitely. I need to get him to suck his thumb more again I think. He does do it occasionally but prefers boob or my little finger. He's also much happier sleeping next to me which is another not so great habit!

[*foxy*]

He's been wide awake since 4.30. I just want to cry!

[jessmum46]

Ugh that sucks was that with the CN yesterday? You know just wondering if some 3-2 silliness isn't helping you right now?

[*foxy*]

Yes, that's with the CN yesterday. Is this the age that can happen? It's tough with the school run being at 3pm too

[jessmum46]

DD was done with the 3-2 by this age, DS could probably do it with a push