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Time to stop the night feeds?
« on: April 22, 2006, 17:23:50 pm »
I just wanted to get some opinions from you fine ladies.  DS stopped asking for night feeds when he was four months olds and started again at about six months.  There is no clear pattern to it - occasionally he sleeps through, sometimes he feeds once around 11 or 12 and then sleeps through, sometimes he goes through till 4 or 5, sometimes he feeds at 11 or 12 and again at 4 or 5.  He eats three good meals a day and has four breastfeeds in the day (except if he has fed at 4 or 5 in which case he only wants 3).  The waking for feeds doesn't seem at all related to how well he has breastfed or the amount of solids he has taken.  I know in theory that he shouldn't need feeding at night and part of me thinks that I need to start thinking about stopping the night feeds.

BUT the other part of me doesn't think that we have any of the traditional problems with night feeding.  DS goes to sleep independently and does sometimes resettle himself if he wakes.  He always finishes his night feeds wide awake and spends 10 or 20 minutes chatting to himself before going back to sleep.  And, very occasionally, he is willing to be settled with a 5 minute cuddle instead of a feed.  He has a very different cry when he wants a feed from the occasional times when he wakes for some other reason (such as having gone to bed overtired).  The feed waking is more of a shout than a cry and if he does wake up properly crying then a feed doesn't settle him.  DS did sort himself out between the ages of 4 and 6 months and I wonder if I just need to wait it out for him to sort himself out again, rather than pushing him.  He's never really been the kind of baby that obeys any rules written in books.  I think that if I stop feeding him then he won't stop waking and we'll end up replacing the feed with 40 minutes of miserable crying.  DH says that I should keep on feeding him if it settles him easily.  But he's not the one getting out of bed!

What have other people's experiences been?

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2006, 17:29:28 pm »
He's exactly 8 months old, BTW.

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2006, 23:06:50 pm »
Does your lo take a bottle?  I say send DH in to feed DS so you can stay in bed!!  ;)

When Carter started his night wakings at 7 months it seemed I would do something different every night!  If he was doing his hunger cry then I would feed him or make Dh give him a bottle of expressed milk.  Otherwise I would spend the 30 mins to 2 hours doing PU/PD to get him back to sleep.  Once we stuck with a certain plan the night wakings stopped and he went back to sleeping through the night.  It really does help to be consistent. 

It sounds like your lo is well on his way to independant sleep if he can settle himself usually.  If you want to stop the night feeds because you don't think he is truly hungry than I say go for it!! It may take a few long tiring nights but in the end every one will be happy!  :)
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2006, 23:16:45 pm »
DH says that I should keep on feeding him if it settles him easily. But he's not the one getting out of bed!

Spoken like a women who has been getting out of bed for exactly 8 months  ;).  LOL

To be honest, I do the same as you.  Sometimes ds sleeps through and maybe 2 nights a week he wakes up.  I can usually tell if he needs a feed or is going to go back to bed without it.  I don't plan on stopping it anytime soon and I feel bad for posting this, but I guess I'm not a sleep mod  8), but a bfing mod. 

Sorry I can't offer more advice.  You may want to check the general night sleep board or night waking board. 
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2006, 08:28:41 am »
Thanks ladies.  No chance of DS taking a bottle if I am around.  He has taken it in the daytime when I am out but I don't think he has any concept that I might not be there in the night.  Well, I decided to have a go at not feeding him before 5am and it went OK last night.  He woke at 12 and we had a cuddle and a drink of water from his sippy cup.   When I put him back in his cot, there was about 5 minutes of extreme rage when he realised he wasn't getting his feed but then he gave up and went back to sleep.  He woke again at 3 and sang to himself for a while before going back to sleep, then woke at 5.30 when I fed him and he finally woke to start the day at 7.30.  I was lying in bed feeling all guilty and worrying he was going to wake up screaming with hunger.  But I guess if he was really hungry then he wouldn't have resettled himself at 3.  So, much easier than I expected but may be beginners luck.  I'll have to see how it goes tomorrow (and see whether he now becomes addicted to water and cuddles...).

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006, 09:00:19 am »
S ounds like your doing great! Be persisitant as nights 3 and 4 are usually the longest and hardest but once you've got past those it should be plain sailing. Hope it all continues to go well!!!!
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2006, 20:12:42 pm »
Freddie, that's great news!  Thanks for sharing and good luck with future nights.
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006, 08:48:57 am »
Well night two pretty similar to night one - cuddles at 1.20 - bit less of a fuss about going back into the cot, feed at 5.30 and wake at 7.30.  You've made me all nervous about nights three and four now, though, Jacob Marks Mummy!

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2006, 12:16:40 pm »
oh sorry!  :-\  I'm probally wrong but those were the nights I find hardest when trying to sort a problem with my DS, the first time when 3/4 were harder than 1 was a bit of shock.  I bet he'll be an angel  :)
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2006, 13:05:01 pm »
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I don't plan on stopping it anytime soon and I feel bad for posting this, but I guess I'm not a sleep mod  8), but a bfing mod. 
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Lol - where does that leave a breastfeeding sleep mod?!!

Hi Freddie - I'm following you around it seems!  Have you seen the sticky on the night wakings board explaining the gradual weaning method.  We started this just before Zander stopped waking for a feed during the night (though I'm not sure this was what stopped him!).  The first night you'd look at the clock to see how long his night feed is and then every few nights you'd reduce his night feed by a minute and then very gradually he'll start taking those calories during the day rather than at night.  It's not an instant solution and may take a couple of weeks but this sat much easier with me than doing PU/PD when I knew he was hungry - you've got to feed a hungry baby!

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2006, 13:05:30 pm »
PS Must work out how to do those quotes correctly!!
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2006, 13:17:10 pm »
PS Must work out how to do those quotes correctly!!

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I don't plan on stopping it anytime soon and I feel bad for posting this, but I guess I'm not a sleep mod  8), but a bfing mod. 
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Lol - where does that leave a breastfeeding sleep mod?!!

Um......  in some kind of strange abyss that hardly anyone gets to visit but you odd few!  LOL  Actually, I don't think we do a night feed as often as I mentioned, but it seems the past few weeks have been like that with illness and now a 9 month growth spurt.  Think I was more venting then anything. 
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2006, 13:33:35 pm »
I always suspected I was a little odd  ;D

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2006, 17:57:46 pm »
Well, all geared up for tonight.  Hopefully it will be fine.  I did see your posts about timing feeds but I'm not sure that will work for us.  DS has some feeds where he just buckles down and others where he messes around and blows raspberries in between feeding.  And sometimes he is not really sucking that hard.  So I don't actually think his time on the breast is related to how much he takes in.

We had the 8 month check today with an exceptionally annoying old bag of a health visitor.  She insisted on telling me he was tired when I knew he had just taken a good nap and was grizzly because of his teeth (you would think him crying after he had bitten on toys might be a clue...).  Why do they pick these people who specialise in criticising you all the time?  At least Daniel got revenge by weeing all over the length measuring machine and howling when the HV tried to hold him.  He is normally really sociable so he must have known.  He weighed 23 pounds so he is now above the 91st centile  :-[.  Maybe he doesn't need yoghurt AND fruit for pudding!  But at least I don't need to feel any guilt about cutting out his night feeds.

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2006, 18:02:17 pm »
Oh, some of those HVs are completely useless.  Well done to DS for peeing all over her!  I'm sure there are some great HVs out there but I avoid mine whenever I can, she really is clueless!  I hope you told her you know your son better than she does - clearly.

Does he mess around and blow raspberries instead of eating during the night?  It seems to me that if he's doing that he's not really hungry - what do you think?
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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2006, 08:27:01 am »
He does sometimes mess around in the night.  I am fairly sure he isn't hungry at night or he wouldn't settle for so long in the last few nights when I haven't fed him.  But even when he is really hungry at 5am he still breaks off to give me a smile from time to time.  I know you aren't supposed to have any eye contact or socialise with them during night feeds but I can't resist it.  Anyway, last night he woke at 2 and resettled himself and I didn't hear from him again till 5.15.  Hurrah!  Hopefully, it wasn't just a one off and that's it now (apart from the regression of course).  Hoping eventually he will stop the early waking but about half of the babies of his age I know are doing it.

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Re: Time to stop the night feeds?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2006, 11:33:56 am »
I'm with you on the early wakings  ::)  That's great you've managed to get rid of the night feeds, you just need to have words with him about staying in bed later now!
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