Anyone done the 1-0 with a toddler who WILL nap?

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Yeah, nights are better.  Not mega long but no 5.30 starts for a while and no BT resistance.  We did 40-45 minute naps for a while, mandy, if that helps.  Now we're on 2-3 NNDs a week and this on nap days :

WU: 6
Nap: 25 - 30 minutes  (certainly no more) at 1 or  1.30. Always awake by 2.
BT: 7

So ok at the moment. I just do a slightly EBT on NNDs cos J doesn't really tack on so NNDs look very similar but without the nap.

One thing I found when we moved down from a 1hr nap was that I had to be really careful when I offered a nap.  He'd take one any time around lunch really, but if he slept too early he'd be really unsettled or just plain awake from 4ish. The same amount of sleep half an hour later helped that, but really I had to go later and shorter to get decent nights.

[Mandy.kamal]

So glad you're nights are improving! That is what's killing me over here.

I think I'm on the same boat with the naps needing to be pushed later in the day. A will nap anywhere from 12:00/1:00 without resistance. But I'm wondering if that longer awake time before bed is what's causing some NWs. His NW are happy and chatty too which throws me off.

So if you did a later, shorter nap, your nights were better? Can you send me and example? Sorry, I am going on just a few hours of sleep (which always makes these sleep issues so much worse!)

[TB9]

DD2 stopped fighting bedtime as much, so I haven't had to do another no nap day, yay!  I do have to force the nap...I'm holding her until she is fully asleep    But she falls asleep on her own for bedtime, and sleeps all night most nights, so I think its just necessary to AP the nap until its gone!

Mandy - If it helps dd2 is doing this right now

6:45am wakeup
1:35/1:40ish-2:15 Nap
8pm bedtime (usually asleep at 8:15)

[Mandy.kamal]

Thanks Tink! I'm completely lost in what to do since we are in such a bad routine right now. OT/UT with long days and too many NWs to count....

Following you both is giving me hope that I'll figure it out at some point...I'm going to just play out these next few days (time is changing) and try and few things and see if I get lucky with something!

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Yeah, it's just trial and error isn't it?! I found that if I did a 45 minute nap at 12.30, we had nws and / or ews. If I did the same length nap at 1 or 1.15 then he would sleep better / longer.  After a bit that stopped working too so I've kept the nap at the same sort of time but I'm now capping to 30 minutes max.

Hope that helps x

[Mandy.kamal]

When you were doing the 45 min nap around 1:00/1:15pm, what was his BT and WU time roughly. I'm just going to copy one of yalls routines and stick to it for a few days and see what happens

[LovelyLilyandJack]

I think WU was around 6, though if it was earlier I'd have stuck to the same nap time anyway.  There were times he was either up very early,  or only had 40 minutes sleep between 4.30 and 6.30 and I just stuck to set nap and bed times.  BT is always at 7, no matter what else is going on. The only exception is NNDs when I do BT at 6.45.

[Mandy.kamal]

Thank you!! Going to try set times this whole week and see how it goes...

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Good luck!

We let jack nap for 30 minutes yesterday, or possibly a few minutes more and he was awake at 4.45 this morning. Urgh!

[Mandy.kamal]

So strange how a 30 minute nap can affect their day so much....seems odd.
I guess now you know that NNDs are what he needs...

Thanks again for your help and guidance