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SLEEP => Sleeping For Toddlers => Topic started by: lin7604 on June 03, 2009, 02:34:44 am
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things have been going so well and this past week he's been up to his old tricks again! he's gone from 11.5 hrs (in 24hrs)of sleep to only 10.5 total in 24hrs now!!! he also is fighing nap at daycare and bedtime... ahhh
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{{{{hugs}}}} can we help?
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ya give me some sleeping powder for him,lol....... i just wish i knew what was up this time... i know he had a ear infection last week but he's done his meds, so all shoudl be better by know! usually on day 2 of meds he's sleeping normal, not so this time.
i don't know if it's just the growing out of nap phase or what??? he doesn't seem to be ready for bedtime at all when it's time but with the lack of naps and bedtime you would think he would be more then ready???? not actually falling alseep till 9:15 - 10 pm! then up by 6!
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{{{{{hugs}}}}} it can take a bit to recover from illness. How old is he now and what's his daily routine look like - especially in terms of napping/bedtime. Hang in there!!
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he has been up and down still lately. his routine is pretty much the same almost daily. up before 6:30 am ( lately 5:40! ), nap at 12:30 ( sleeps anywhere from 1hr 15 min to 2 hrs) and bed time 8 ish unless he slept 2 hrs then it's closer to 9 as he only sleeps around 11hrs in 24hrs combined total. I can't change his routine as he's in daycare during the week. so even when he wakes early nap still is around 12:30, which makes him super overtired and HYPER!!!!!! NON LISTENER!!!!! etc. he puts up a big scene at napa nd they usually end up calling on me to come in the nap room to calm hima dn get him to sleep as i work at the daycare as well.
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Have you tried moving his bedtime earlier? 6:30 - 8:30 is a pretty long day for him - my dd is just over 2 and she is on a 12.5 hr day, 11.5 hr night. Especially if he's OT (which is probably why you're getting EWs), moving his bedtime earlier might help.
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i have tried over and over with a earlier bed time and it doesn't work :( he wakes up even eariler as he will not sleep past 11.5 hrs max in 24hrs!!!! i do know he has always been netorious(sp?) for early wakes when over tired since birth. everyone thinks i'm crazy b/c i always have to figure out when bedtime is, etc as he works best around the 6 hr max no more then 6.5A time, so with todays 2 hr nap bedtime will be 8-8:30. oh it's so hard to figure out sometimes.....When i look at it i would say the same , earlier bedtime but it's just doesn't seem to be that easy???? why????
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hmmm....how much earlier have you tried the early bedtime? He could just be on the low end of sleep needs, so a super early bedtime might indeed backfire. I know with my dd, I never did an early bedtime more than 30 min early. If I did, I'd get an EW. So maybe even just a small tweak of bedtime would help?
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ya i have done up to 30 min, sometimes it has worked and other times it does indeed backfire. i never know if it will work each time...
last night i had a meeting and nana and papa wwatched him, usualyl bedtime is 8pm and sleeping by8:30... well i got home after 8pm and he was still up ( as expected :<) and he was so WIRED!!!!! it took me about 30 min just to calm him down and ended up having to rub him to sleep to get him to sleep. he didn't fall asleep till 9:30 and that was with my help! so of course he woke up before 6am and only ended up with 10hr in 24hrs of sleep :( he was difficult at nap today at daycare and only slept 1hr 10 min, so a early bedtime today. I am aiming for 7:30 so he's sleeping for 8pm... wish me luck! hope it's not too early....
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{{{{{{hugs}}}}}} gotta love the late bedtime and hyper bub - thanks nana and papa :) If the 30 min early does work sometimes, here's to hoping it does tonight!! The EW this am was I'm sure OT, and no doubt that's not been helped by the short nap, so your plan sounds good. Let me know how it goes.
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well i had to wake him at 6:35 to get to work!!!! so it worked! i will have to do the same tonight as he didn't nap well agian at daycare ( putting up a fuss) so same as yesterday, hopefully all will be well tomorrow am
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YAY!!!! So glad it worked :) hopefully the trend will continue!
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no it was a one night thing :( he had the same day as yesterday, only a 1hr 10 min nap, so i followed the same pattern for bedtime. well he was alseep at the same time but then decided to wake at 5:30 am!!!!!! i just don't get it!!!!!
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ok now really confused! yesterday was the same kin dof day, fought nap at daycare, ended up sleeping 1 hr 10 min max, so i had him in bed at 8pm, he was sleeping by 8:30, well once agian he was up at 5:30..... now do you think it's really OT or UT when he goes to bed???
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hmmm....how old is he now? 1 hr 10 for a nap doesn't seem unusually short, but his night sure does. When he wakes at 5:30 - is he happy and ready to go or is he crying? Do you think the 5:30 could be habitual? Average length of naps for a 2 year old is 1.5 hrs, at 3, it drops to 1.25 hrs. The nights for a 2 yo average 11 - 11.5, and that drops to 10.75 at 3, so I'm not sure he's OT.
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he will be 3 in october. he's happy, he walks into our room, says MOM, i had a good sleep! LOL.... today when he woke up i marched him back into his room adn told him it's not time to get up, i layed with him and in about 15 min he was back to sleep. he then woke at 7:10! ( i could only let him do that today b/c hubby was home), then he napped only 1 hr at daycare, was happy when he woke too...
see before all this change he was doing 1.5 at daycare and longer at home for nap, which is good to know he was in the normal range. but nights were never more then 10hrs! mostly 9 especially now..... i have no idea what to do for tonight????? try for a 7:30, sleeping for 8 and see what happens??? or just do a normal 8 -8:30 bedtime????? ahhhh
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If he's waking happy from his nap, I'd do normal bedtime. He may need less sleep than your average bub.
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ok we will see what happens. i did a normal bedtime today, got ready at 8 in bed for 8:30.
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how did the night and the morning after go?
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not bad, he was up at 6:10am. So 10hrs 20 min of sleep in 24hrs. do you think that's enough??? today he napped at 12:50-2:40 at home, so bedtime will be 9ish.
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that's definitely on the low side of sleep - but only you can tell if that's enough for him or not. How did he seem during the day? Long nap for him today, so let's see what happens with the morning...
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well he did have a great nap but bedtime was a challange... he just was pumped up. I gave him his bath by 8:30, so we were in bed reading a story for 9pm ( 6 hrs A time). He was still bouncing around at 9:30!!! He finally didnt fall asleep till just after 10pm! Then he was up at 6am... so only 9.5 hrs in 24 hrs... i did manage to get him to have another 30 min sleep from 6:20 to 6:50am but i tell ya, i can't do that on weekdays ( i;m out of the house at 6:30).......what am i going to do about this? 10 hrs i don't think is enough but i can't seem to correct this at all....
i looked back at my calendar as i write it down daily and he was averaging in the last 3 weeks between 10-11, closer to 10.5 with occasional ones of 11 or 11hrs 15 min a few times a week. now at least if i can get him to do 10.5 i would be much happier. he is in general happy when he wakes but it a few hours after where it hits him. then by nap he's OT and fights it! oh i hate these changes and never know how to deal with them...
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Have you tried moving the nap earlier? With the EWs, then he's OT by naptime, I'm wondering if moving his nap earlier (even just temporarily) might help.
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i can only on saturday and sunday and that's it, during the week he's in daycare and nap is scheduled! Today he napped from 12:35-2:35. he was such a bear this am, not listening, etc dad was not having a good fathers day i tell ya!!!! lol.... well good nap and all is well this pm so far. so now i just don't know if i should keep bedtime at 8 or later????? b/c 6 hrs A time is 8:30 and then sleeping for 9pm..... and then if i get 9hrs of night sleep then wake up will be 6, hopefully not 5 with the 10hrs of sleep we have been getting in 24hrs...........
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I'm guessing you're going to need to do at least 6 hrs of A time (if not more) - that's a long nap. I know he's OT from the short nights, but I'm afraid with the long nap, you'll be in the same situation tonight, tough time going to bed and EW. I'm thinking that day sleep is stealing from night sleep. I'd limit his nap to 1 hr 15 at the most. I know that seems odd given that he's OT - but that 2 hr nap is really long for a bub who's almost 3. Hang in there!
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thanks, see what i think is that b/c he's not getting his 2 hr nap at daycare during the week is what is making him OT... does that make sence. when he gets it he's a dream child and sleeps great at night too..... it was always a 2 hr nap during the day and 9-9.5 at night.... until his day nap started to get shortened at daycare then all he** broke loose.....
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hmmm...then I could be completely wrong. He's your bub and you definitely know him best. I'm just pondering....the 9 - 9.5 hr night is really short, but I guess with a 2 hr nap, he was making up for it. And there's no way you can influence that daycare nap, which leaves you stuck. Do you think he naps short at daycare because of the other kids or is it a routine thing (that their routine is different from yours)?
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i think it's just noise, light, etc i agree that 9 hrs at night is too short but for somereason even if i put him to bed earlier b/c of the short nap he doesn't seem to make it up at night like he used to....now it seems his body is set to 9-9.5 at night no matter what.. that is so frustrating. i got him ready for bed at 8:45 and in bed for 9.... now i wonder what time he will actually be asleep at and wake up at????
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here's to hoping he sleeps in a bit for you!!
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yahhhhh he slept till 6:40am!!!!!!! unbelievable :) but then he was a nightmare at daycare for nap, and once again only slept 1hr 10 min. 1:10 to 2:20. so i guess bedtime for 8pm?
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YAY for a later wake up!!! Haven't you been doing 6 hrs of A time after nap and before bed? I'm afraid if you put him down at 8, he'll be up before 6.
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ya i have been doing about 6-6.5 depending after his nap, before nap is longer depending on his wake up time. he was unruley this afternoon with only a 1 hr nap, so i got him ready for bed at 8, in bed for 8:20 and asleep at 8:40... so we will see what the morning brings......
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how early was the morning?
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he slept till just after 7!!!! fornately i could let him do so as hubby was home but he's off to work tomorrow.... He napped 1 hr at daycare again 1-2, so bed will be 8 and sleeping by 8:30 again... hopefully....
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YAY for a later wake up!!!!