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EAT => Feeding Solid Food => Topic started by: nollie on March 12, 2010, 09:18:04 am
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Hi, my Ds is 6 mos and he's going to start solid in 2 weeks..
So I'm wondering since we have to supervise closely in introducing it.. What should I do if my DS start to choke?
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If he's gagging, you just stand back and watch. Gagging is a GOOD thing, it means he is preventing himself from choking and learning how to move food around his mouth. He might vomit, that's OK too, it's his body's way of getting rid of the obstruction. Just clear up and give him a drink of water and let him carry on his meal.
If he is choking, don't reach in to pull anything out of his mouth, you might push it further in. Lean him forwards and give him a good hard slap on the back between the shoulders. If that doesn't clear it, pick him up out of his high chair, hold him face down and with his head low, and repeat the slaps 3 times.
I was worried about this too and did an infant/child first aid course - just a few hours long but covered the basics - and it really reassured me that I would know what to do.
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hi, i'm thinking of taking that course also.. if there is one around here...
just to be prepared.. you don't know what you gonna get with the boy rite...
thanks again :)
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Hi there - I agree with Anna - gagging is good. When starting you should only be giving him very very smooth puree so the choking hazard is extremely minimal. Also, I made made the mistake of giving my ds the spoon to play with - not good as he shoved it right down his throat. And finally there are some really informative videos on youtube about baby cpr and choking first aid to tide you over till you get to a course or if you can't get to one.
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And one of the best pieces of advice that was given to me is to NOT panic at all. If you panic, your LO can sense it, which raises their panic level as well and makes things worse. Be confidently calm that you know what to do, and then do it!
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Hi
Just out of interest, are you going down the baby-led weaning path for introducing solids and hence the question about choking etc. If you are, I know you will find loads of support on the baby-led weaning threads. I mainly did BLW and in the first week of introducing solids, I did a little baby rice and at the same time gave Andrew a mini rice cake to suck on. Worked for us. By about9month he was happily eating toast / mini sandwiches / as he wanted to be just like his big brother.
Alex
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thank you ladies, i'll remember those tips and tricks...
actually chicane, i'm thinking of have him playing with his own spoon and plate.. so he can imitate us while i still feeding him... guess it's not a good idea then.. maybe i'll start doing that later :)
Hi Alex, i'm too afraid to try BLW.. Ollie is milk intolerant and easily constipated.. he really have a terrible smelly gas.. so i'm afraid to try directly to chunky food.. but i do want to try giving him a rice cake or other biscuits for him to suck.. can i do both at the same time?
i'll start giving him solid by the end of this march.. still lots of researching to do..
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If DS is easily consipated I would be tempted to stay away from most biscuits and stick with veggies and fruits. Stay clear of bananas! Pears and prunes are good for helping lo stay regular.
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Ok thank u.. i'll keep that in mind.. i was planning to start my LO with pears, apple and papaya.. it's hard to find any prunes around here.. :)
Do you think i should boil it first .. say.. 2 mins.. for those fruits?
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I would lightly steam the pears and apples, papaya I find watery and soft enough so I wouldn't do anything with it. I steam every food instead of boiling- keeps the vitamins in instead of losing so much of it in the water!
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thank u ladies.. we'll do that...
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Hi Nollie - just to let you know there are some fantastic book that can guide you through introducing solids. i am using one at the moment which is making it very easy and they all have info and recipes about how to prepare and store your baby's food. You might find it useful to check one out of the library or buy one (FIY Amazon has a great second hand book section which I use all the time and never pay more than a few dollars/pounds/euros for books)
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hi chicane.. what's the book title?
you know there are hundreds of books about this.. just got to make sure we choose the one that inline with BW way.. if you have any recommendation.. let me know
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have you already been to www.wholesomebabyfood.com ?
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hi nollie - i am using The Contented Baby Guide to Weaning and Annable Karmel's Feeding Your Baby and Toddler. Both have really good info and Contended has some great plans to follow that take the guessing out. Annable Karmel suggests that you buy a bunch of stuff - plates and bowls etc. but really you dont need all that - just keep it simple. I have also looked a lot at the website recommended by Jinx. We started just over a week ago - at first its was really just tasting and getting used to it - pretty funny to see the faces he made! I feel like today was the first day he has actually 'eaten'. He finally realised he has to open his mouth and accept the spoon into it - I think he liked it! So, we took a little longer than the books suggest to get to the point where I am offering him other foods and being more established. Like anything else watch your baby and listen to your instinct and take your time.
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Thank you Chicane and Jiinx.. i'll find the book in the bookstore.. and surely will browse the website.. :)
another quick question ...for his very first food should i give him a pureed pear or pear juice... i've been in debate with my mom about this since forever... she insists in giving DS juice.. 3 times a day... since she's been doing so with me and all the children..
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I'm not sure what is right but i have never given juice! :P I just never thought about it. Juice is not really solids, is it? That's probably the reason why DS prefers water when he's thirsty. Juice seems too sweet for him. He needs to reach for water after a few sips of juice. I also wanted to introduce sugary things only after DS's 2nd birthday but daycare gives children cookies... But most of my mom-friends always said to me "well done that your kid will drink water!" :P
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I wouldn't give juice, don't see the benefit in giving it? Liquids should be milk or water.
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I'd definitely go with puree over juice. Juice (heavily diluted) is a treat for my DS.
That is, if you mean Juice like you would get in a carton - I think the thing with these is that there is an awful lot of sugar in them (even if there's no added sugar there's the fructose from the fruit) so a lovely sweet thing for LOs to drink. As pp have said maybe putting them off water.
I mean, think about the number of oranges you would have to hand squeeze to get a cup full - whereas perhaps a LO would eat half of one (of course when they're a bit older but I couldn't think of another example!)
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In terms of taking care of your babies/infant's teeth ..I find juices can get very addictive and babies and infants would prefer it much more than water or milk, if given the chance. Cavities are much more likely with juices due to the sugar content and the fact babies suck on it for a longer period of time and, as a result, would cause the pH in the mouth to become acidic ...
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I agree with all the PPs, juice is a sugar sweet drink and your lo may not want to have water or milk once exposed to juice. My dd only gets juice at birthday parties or if she's really sick (she's been "really sick" with ear infections twice in just over 4 years). Our ped dentist said to stay away from the juice as they see lots of los with cavities caused by juice.
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Thanks ladies.. sorry for the late reply.. just got back from weekend with no internet connection *sigh*
about the juice thing ... so sorry I guess i made you all mistaken ... what i mean is not exactly a cartoon juice with added sugar and so on... it's the thickness for the pear (arrrgghh i don't know how to explain) .. we're confuse to give the pear in the form of puree.. or liquid ... there! guess that's better explanation...
yet like koe2moe said.. liquid is not solid .. :P
so i want to try it today though... a very watery pureed pear ...
i just sterilized all the equipment .. wish me luck... (very nervous bout this :-X)
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in a rush so a quick reply - you can mix the puree with cooled boiled water to get the right consistency - start with it quite watery no lumps...dont worry its not as hard as you might think...keep us updated
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Funny Story...
after many debate with mom.. i finally made my first baby food with "home baby food maker from pigeon"
first i cut and peel the pear.. then steam it for approx 2 mins more.. then i grate the fruit, that automatically goes to strainer .. then i use pestle to mashed the pear through strainer .. and come out as a liquid pear... ??? (what the..... )
guess my mom win this time.. ::)
should i blend it? or should i not used the strainer?
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hmm i think i only strained out the stringy bits. I didn't cook pears either. I thought only hard fruit like apple needs to be cooked :P So I didn't bother :P Also for banana, I did try straining but realised it's only juice left and put the bits back in :P
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I peel then steam the pear then whiz it in the food processor till smooth - put in some of the cooking water or cooled boiled water to get the consistency right. The pear will always have bits in it unless you have a moule (fine hand turned sieve) You can mix in a bit of baby rice to bulk it out if you want to. I started with rice, waited till he got the hang of it them moved to pear...this week we'll try sweet potato...personally I would wait a while for banana - some people say it can be hard to digest...like anything - give it a go and follow the cues of your LO
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Hi koe2moe - i steam the pear to sterilize it actually.. i'm too paranoid maybe.. just read the book "miracle of enzym by hiromi shinya" makes me think that all food can be potion to human esp to baby :-[ (the pesticide and the whole process)
Chicane - i'm going to buy food processor this weekend :) .. thinking of start light with fruit .. then go to baby rice.. Do your LO have any problem with baby rice? you surely start with a very watery one.. and add the thickness in within 4 days (or not? since we have to stick with one food for every 4 days)
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hi nollie - my lo didn't have any prob with the baby rice and yes i started with it quite watery - did that for almost a week (he's a little slow on the uptake!) then mixed in some pear...now do pear alone and thicker baby rice...and will try sweet potato today! As far as introducing new foods some books say every two days others more...follow your bubba, if the lo looks really into it then try something new...with mine i got the feeling he needed more time so i am leaving it about 5 days before trying something new...
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I'm kinda in a rush to give a bulky food ... IYKWIM... struggling with no naps with my DS... thinking maybe one of the reason is hungry ..
thanks chicane.. i'll try that
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We started with baby rice here too - and then pear and then sweet potato (that seems to be a pattern!!).
I did wonder if you meant about the consistency of the pear rather than actual juice when I read your post.
With reference to wanting to give 'bulky' foods, remember that at this stage LOs are really just on solids to get used to different textures and tastes rather than for any kind of nutritional value - LO will only have a couple of teaspoons to start with. Could it be that your LO is going through a bit of a growth spurt at the moment? You may want to think about increasing milk intake for a bit too if that's the case.
Hope he enjoys the pear!!
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yes agreed - we went to the pediatrician yesterday and he told me that it will be a few more months before the baby's system will even be able to convert the food into useful nutrients - all their nutrients are still coming from milk
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he likes the pears, he made funny faces at first .. but than can get enough with just 1 teaspoon :).... so we're clear with pears.. next i want to try baby rice.. there's one here.. organic baby rice, red rice.. my friend recommended it to me.. but i'm worried about DS being milk intolerant and constipated.. do you think red rice ok? coz i remember reading in other thread that constipated and rice don't go along...
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Baby rice can be constipating, yes.
I've never heard of Red rice so can't comment on it I'm afraid!!
I'd make sure that the rice is mixed with lots of EBM/formula or water so that it's nice and runny to start with, and see how LO goes!
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Ouchh.. i mean brown rice.. sorry we called it red rice here ... :P... any info?
btw thanks for the super fast reply :)
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I think any rice cereal of any type is constipating....
rice cereal mixed with prunes or pears is a good attempt. Ugh. rice cereal.
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hi ya - if your lo is still getting most of his meals in the form of breast milk then the chance of getting constipated from a few teaspoons of baby rice are slim. If you give it to him for a few days it should be fine...then you can mix it with pear and other fruits and veg which will stop him from getting constipated. As far as rice cereal is concerned the easiest is ready made baby rice (which is powdered and contains nothing but rice and perhaps iron - make sure you check the ingredients some brands add sugars and fructose etc which your lo does not need yet) you can buy it brown rice which i probably really good for him...
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thanks sarah chicane.. i'll do that... i'm crossing my finger for the poop :)