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Title: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: ~ Vik ~ on May 19, 2010, 02:41:46 am
So, ds is going to be moving out of the infant room and into the toddler room at his daycare July 5.  In the infant room they sleep in cribs in a separate sleep room - there are babies from 6wo up to 18mo old (Dylan is the oldest at 19mo, but we are waiting for the space to open in the toddler room) and all sleep at different times.  In the toddler room there is a set nap time (which luckily is roughly when Dylan naps anyway :)) and all the children sleep on cots in the main room with the lights dimmed. 

Dylan is still in his crib at home.  He hasn't tried to climb out of it yet, but is a bit of an adventurer so I'm sure it's only a matter of time.  He is a good sleeper with a solid bedtime routine, generally STTN from 8/830pm to 7am unless something is wrong.

My question is, should we take the next month or so and start transitioning him to the BBB at home?  Do you think that this will make the transition to the cot in the toddler room easier?  I don't want to change beds at home too close to the transition at the daycare - I think that would just be too much going on at once - so if I don't do it now I'm likely looking at not doing it until September/October when he's approaching 2yo.  Is that too late?  Any tips for a smooth switch over?

Thanks for any help! :)
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: anna* on May 19, 2010, 08:06:29 am
I wouldn't worry about it, and would let daycare handle his transition there. At Stan's nursery they have 12 toddlers all just lay down on mats on the floor in the main room and nap. There's nothing I could have done to help him with that, but once they are toddlers the need to be part of a group and do what other kids (especially bigger kids) are doing is so strong, I bet he won't bat an eyelid.

I definitely don't think that 2 years is too late to change to BBB, I know lots of toddlers who are still in their cots at 2.5 and even older!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: *Amy* on May 19, 2010, 08:30:01 am
my lo is still in his cot and shows no signs of venturing out of it! (i bet you I have just jinxed myself LOL)
he is quite an adventurer too but he just loves to his cot!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Shdef on May 19, 2010, 09:38:07 am
Scotty only changed at almost 4 years old and I am very greateful for this. Honestly, cots are a blessing, the kids sleep better in them. And the BBB training is completely different and you'd have to start from scratch. I'd say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 19 months is still very young and he'll understand that things are different at day care anyway.
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Mashi on May 19, 2010, 09:51:55 am
I agree with anna and Steffi - I think that cots are great and I am not even anywhere near thinking about a BBB for my DS. I think that unless there is a real reason why you need to put him in a BBB then I would keep him in his crib for now.
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Mom to M&M on May 19, 2010, 10:25:58 am
I agree too! DD was in her crib until she was a little past three. I really think part of the reason her move to her BGB was so smooth was because she was truly ready and old enough to understand - we really didn't have any of the getting out of bed, taking hours game stuff...

We might have to move DS sooner than that (he's quite long) but will wait until he's getting uncomfortable in there or (hopefully not) trying to climb out...
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: becky1969 on May 19, 2010, 15:15:38 pm
Another supporter of waiting! LOL! My son transitioned at 3.5.  We were so glad we waited because it was a breeze at that age -- he was old enough to reason with and you also have reward charts as a motivational tool at that age.  We ended up not needing any extra motivation -- he was ready and excited! The best part he was old enough to understand 'rules', and even now at age 4.5 he waits for me to come up to let him get up in the morning -- no running into my room or down the stairs or anything.  ;D  I told my husband he'll probably wait every morning in the dorm room for his college room mate to tell him it's OK to get out of bed! LOL!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Shiv52 on May 19, 2010, 15:19:53 pm
agree on waiting too!!!  We had a few weeks of climbing out of the cot ages ago but it passed (thank goodness) and am so glad I've kept her in her cot.  Will be in there for as long as I can keep her there!  Ours is a cotbed though so loads of room!

I don't think it will affect his transition at day care. When my DD stays with my sister (couple of times a month only though) she sleeps in a bed and manages fine.  I think they learn quickly what happens for sleep in different places!!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: ~ Vik ~ on May 20, 2010, 03:13:41 am
Thanks so much for the replies everyone! With that unanimous advice we will definitely be waiting :) And that's such a good point Anna, about kids wanting to do what the other kids are doing. So happy that I asked!

Another quick question, since we have the bed, would it be worthwhile to set it up in his room anyway? to expose him to it? Maybe for story time? (or for mommy to sleep on when he's sick, instead of the floor ;)) His room is big enough for the bed and the crib, though it would be a bit tighter. Or would it be more of a nuisance?
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: shivi on May 20, 2010, 04:16:51 am
hi!

we had a nightmare with the BBB transition, it went on for 9 mths plus. Ours was a kind of forced decision - Oscar was so active, big and heavy that he broke the slats under the mattress. He was 23 mths at the time....so we went out and bought him all new furniture (the blue stuff from Ikea) and moved the baby stuff for Emma (who we were TTC LOL - don't you love the planning>!>).

In the end, we set up the travel cot in his room and after an E but tired W (of which we had SOOOOO many), I'd pop him in there. (The original cot was waiting for the mattress base to be replaced  - E now sleeps in it). But it was no fun until Oz finally decided that HE was ready for the transition at 2 yrs 9 mths when uncannily E was around 2-3 weeks old, not the ideal time for transitioning in anyone's books but he's been happily going to sleep every night (also had the getting out of bed till 9-9.30pm and falling asleep on the floor by the gate at his door very often) since at 7ish (but we still get EWs but there you go).


My two are very long kids - Oz scaled his playpen at 1 yr 8 mths. Emma is more of a climber and can get out of the bath herself if given half a chance - same height as him at this age but longer legs. But in the cot they sleep(slept) in sleeping bags so there is no issue with climbing.

Unless we have another baby and need E's cot she will stay in it till she asks in a perfect sentence (in two languages LOL) for a BGB!!!! And that's a LOOOONG time away.

S x
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: MasynSpencerElliotte on May 20, 2010, 04:23:31 am
since we have the bed, would it be worthwhile to set it up in his room anyway? to expose him to it? Maybe for story time? (or for mommy to sleep on when he's sick, instead of the floor ;))

Masyn has always had a bed in her room besides her crib, came in super handy for NW's when I was pg with Spence and was like a couch for story time so we could all cozy up.  She transitioned to the bed at 2.5 with no issues at all, and we had Spencer in a BGB at 16 months (and at 22 months still will not get out of bed unless I turn the light on and tell her too  :o)
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Shdef on May 20, 2010, 05:09:04 am
We've always had a bed there, too. For story time and to play.
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: ~Karen~ on May 20, 2010, 06:59:49 am
Ethan is still in cot at just over 2.5 and until he starts climbing out, he's staying in it!  I do think it depends on the child though.  DD was an angel baby/toddler and she went in BGB at 18 months (we needed the cot for the baby!) and was absolutely fine and never tried to get out.  She's only started getting out of bed recently as I told her to take herself to the toilet in the night if she woke up and to stop waking me up!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Tweakster on May 20, 2010, 17:20:02 pm
We had a few weeks of climbing out of the cot ages ago but it passed (thank goodness) and am so glad I've kept her in her cot

This is interesting because our paed told us the same.  Oh he will climb out and probably only once or twice, especially if he falls doing it lol.  And she said there was no need to hurry him to a BBB. I hope we can keep Finn in there too because with the whole EW inclination he has no way I want him out and about at 4 or 5 in the morning!!!

But his daycare reports say 'Finley likes to climb on the change table' and he's climbing on the sofa these days and even trying to scale the stove lol.  So it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Mashi on May 20, 2010, 18:04:34 pm
Our cot lowers so low that *I* would struggle to climb out of it -- like 6 inches from the ground.  I always thought that all cots/cribs were like this, but the number of people that write about their 18-24 month old climbing out of the cot shocks me.  So is my DS's cot just odd that it has a level this low or ???  I could keep him in there until he was 5 and he would not be able to get out!!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Mom to M&M on May 20, 2010, 18:41:58 pm
I wish our crib had a level that low, Mashi. I suppose if needed we could remove the drawer underneath (there is a sliding drawer) and maybe lower the slats down to that level? Hmm will have to ask DH. Not there yet but would rather be prepared!
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: Tweakster on May 20, 2010, 18:47:55 pm
Hmm I wonder if we have the same crib Karen.  We have a drawer too.  Storkcraft Aspen Stages model.  But Tom insists it is at the lowest level.  Which is actually going to make it a high toddler bed come to think of it.

Actually crap - our crib has been recalled! Ours is a drop-side and apparently it's plastic and crap.

So he's destined to fall out :-(
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: ~Karen~ on May 20, 2010, 19:29:10 pm
Mashi - I can only assume that people have all different levels of cots.  Ours is a cot bed and Ethan hasn't been able to climb out of it yet and he's over 2.5 and is a bit of a climber.  The other day he had taken his grobag off and was balanced on the side of it with one leg either side but didn't drop to the floor.  Can't say I blame him though as it's quite a drop! 
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: shivi on May 20, 2010, 20:25:03 pm
Our babyden was at the lowest level and Oscar *could* do it by 20 mths. He is tall and was a very tall baby before 2 yrs old, has slowed down since....was 86cm at a year and I think 95 at his 2 yr check....

In the cot, once he had scaled the babyden, I put his grobag on back to front so he had no way of opening it and then no way of hitching one leg up.

I am starting to worry about Emma as she is even more of a climber than he was....


S x
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: ~Karen~ on May 20, 2010, 21:15:09 pm
Yeah it probably helps that Ethan is a bit of a titch!  He's just hit 90cm.
Title: Re: To change to the BBB or not?
Post by: MasynSpencerElliotte on May 21, 2010, 00:46:51 am
Hmm I wonder if we have the same crib Karen.  We have a drawer too.  Storkcraft Aspen Stages model. 


Ours is a Storkcraft too, and with the drawer. It's really not that high as a toddler bed, Spencer can climb into it with ease and that's saying something. The recall was the reason we converted it to a BGB.