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SLEEP => Night Wakings => Topic started by: babyrose on January 10, 2011, 13:07:19 pm
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my lo is 7.5 months and just before christmas we had a few problems with our EASY routine but are now all back to normal. except for the past few nights he has been waking up at 1.48 to be exact, he doesnt cry, just a moan then wakes. i have been feeding to sleep but i dont think he is hungry. i thought about wakening an hour b4 but wasnt sure how to go about it.
does anyone have any thoughts?
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hi, thanks for getting back to me. At nap and bed time i can just put him down no problems but ive made the mistake of feeding to sleep recently and he isnt very good at getting to sleep through the night by himself.
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I'm a recent convert to w2s and have done it the last 2 nights with success with my 3.5 month old. I say go for it, you hve nothing to lose if he's waking anyways. Good Luck. :)
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thanks for the replies, we had a bad night last night with waking every two hrs. if it happens tonight i will try it. will keep you posted!
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i was planning on setting the alarm last night, and he didnt even waken at this time! if its does happen again i will try it.
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last night he woke at 10:30 like the night b4 and then 2 (night b4 1:30) then 5:45. im not sure if he is using me to get back to sleep or if his crawling is bothering him. should i wake to sleep tonight or leave it another night see what happens?
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he just got up at 9:30 there i fed him and put him back down.
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we had a really bad night the night b4, dh had been up all night being sick which disturbed lo. i tried to settle without feeding but in the end gave in cos i hadnt had any sleep either. yesterday he had almost 4 hrs during of sleep which made a big improvement on last nights sleeping.he was up at 11 then again at 3:45 and we started the day at 7. so far today he has a had a morning sleep of 2 hrs and just went for another sleep just now. things are improving.
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we have had 2 bad nights in a row, waking every 2 hrs sometimes crying and other times just waking. im not sure if he is over tired or there is something else.
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hi,
he has just started to crawl not quite there yet! meds have been given now b4 naps and bedtime i hope this helps. today our EASY went:
7 awake and b/feed
8 b/fast
9:45 sleep (30mins as i left my mobile in the room and it woke him :(
11:15 b/feed
12:15 lunch
12:30 sleep ( he was really tired after the rough night no earlier sleep)
14:10 awake
15:15 b/feed
15:45 sleep
17:00 awake (concerned leaving him till this time)
17:15 dinner
19:15 b/feed and bed.
ive been trying to extend his A time to 3 hrs but it ended up resulting in OT so ive just recently put it down again.
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we tried more A time but i didnt wait long enough to see an affect, he can only seem to do 2.5hrs as his teeth are really bothering him. so we had to put in a wee sleep just to keep him up to bed time we dont normally do the cat nap.
i would like to increase A time, i will give him til end of the wk and start increasing on fri.
thanks
nicola
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another terrible night. he was in his bed at 6:50, slept til 9 then was crying so i fed him. back up again at 10, gave him meds and that was him til 1. back up again at 4 and would NOT go back to sleep after i changed his nappy, i fed him twice cuddled him but he just kept pushing me away put him down he just kept getting back up and moaning not crying. finally i rocked him :( back to sleep at 5. started the day at 6:35 he had 2 good naps yesterday usually if he has goods he has a good night.
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gave him meds, i think his teeth are really bothering him, cos when his dummy falls out during the night b4 he would just moan but now turned into screaming for it as if he needs it more for comfort.
im going to put up his A time again on mon cos i increased it on thurs, so hopefully that will give him enough days to adjust.
nicola
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bit better last night, but now he wont feed. it started yesterday and now the same today.
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today he has been more himself :D i think his mouth has calmed down alot, so im hoping tonight will be better. fingers crossed!
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he just started crying there, i picked him up (he was still sleeping) gave him a cuddle and put him back in his cot he cried and that was him. ive noticed he seems to do this not long after ive put him down for the night. do you think he might be ot?
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we had a long A time b4 bed cos we were a wee bit late getting home for his nap. and also a longer that normal A time b4 bed. will keep an eye on him tomorrow.
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we had a good day to day and no long A times. his gums have calmed down with no teeth showing for now. fingers crossed for tonight im exhausted!
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he was in his bed at 6:10 and first waking was 10,2 and then 4:45 and up and started our day at 6:30. its getting better, but when he wakes he cant get back to sleep, he just moans and crawls round the cot thats when i feed to sleep. ive used sssh/pat b4 and it worked, but now he gets on his hands and find it hard doing it that way. we tried pu/pd once for a nap but there was far too much crying. i think he was 6/6.5 months then. should i wait to see how the increase of A times goes first?
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i think i will wait, now having a milk problem during the day but he is quite happy to feed at night though!
nicola
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ive started expressing hopefully that will help, im not sure why he is doing this its strange.
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we had a very bad night the night b4, waking every 2 hrs :( last night was great waking at 12 then 4, then up at 6. every morning he seems to wake up around 6 no matter if his bed time 6, 6:30 or 7. could this be due to A time or something else?
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i found that we got a 2hr first nap with 2hrs 40 or 2hrs 45 A time, should i still keep going til 3hrs with only getting 1hr 20 sleep time with 2hrs 50?
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thanks for the encouragement! we are getting there, great day 2 day. 1 nap of 2 hrs and another of 1hr 55. hitting the big 3hrs on tue, i hope to get some good sleep soon!
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last night Ayden cried in his sleep an hr after being put down then again after another hour, i settled him by picking him up and holding him. then again at 9 he wouldnt settle so i fed him and put him down then at 12 awake crawling round the cot, i feed him put him back down big screams (this is not like him he doesnt cry normally) it took me well over an hr to settle him i got upset bc i didnt know what to do. i tried everything feeding, rocking nothing worked fianally he settled and cuddled in and fell asleep. tonight he only slept for 30 mins in his last sleep so i went for an earlier bedtime, he wouldnt settle, i sat with him for 10 mins put him down again then he started screaming it took me 40 mins to settle him, he fell asleep in my arms. its really not like him to do this.
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no he seems fine, happy and himself during the day. ive just had to settle him again for the 3rd time tonight. i feel like im losing hope. ive just looked at my notes of the past two days, he has had under 3hrs sleep both days im wondering if ot is to blame?
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he woke at 4, so i tried to him to bed at 6:15 he didnt settle til 6:30 then up at 7,8,9,11 til 11:45,2,4:30 and then up t 7. he has gotten so bad. i used to be able to put him to bed and that would be him for a few hrs now he cant settle himself. sorry if im moaning im so so tired.
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i think you have asked :) he did have a few bad days but seems to be a bit more settled now. things have improved today but we will see what tonight brings, this is our 2nd day on 3hrs A time.
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it was a bit better last night , apart from the waking at 1:45 i fed him twice and he still wouldnt sleep, so i decided to use sssh/pat. it took 50mins but it worked and i think im the prop. i think i will do the same again tonight. what do you think?
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i will keeping going with it, will keep you posted :)
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We tried ssh/pat he was not having any of it. He got really upset but i think he was ot. Had a brilliant night the night b4 but a waking of 4.30 and he would not go back 2 sleep.
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He was up twice that night. His bed time came up 2 half 5. I wasnt sure 2 put him 2 his bed or do a catnap. I went with early bedtime, he was up at half 4. Should i have went with a catnap? Im finding that he wont sleep long in the afternoon maybe 40 mins. Do u think he needs slightly longer A time in the afternoon?
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Ive had a look at our routine since he started 3 hrs A time and only once has he slept more than 40 mins. Today our easy was: 6:35 awake & b/feed 8 b/fast 9.35 sleep (2hrs 5) 11.40 awake & b/feed 15:30 we were out had 20 mins in the car on way home. 16:00 b/feed 17:00 dinner 19:25 b/feed & bed.
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Hi Nicola, I thought I woud jump on with some fresh eyes. I'm sorry things are getting tough again for the 2 of you after your initial progress.
My inital thoughts are around the feeding to sleep at nights and the dummy.
Do you end up feeding to sleep on most NWs even if he has several? If so I think this could be making things worse as he is holding out for the feed so I would probably be consistent with one method of resettling him at night. I am thinking pupd is probably best at his age. He isn't going to like it if it's not what he's used to but the time you have to spend doing it should drop over a few nights. Is there any way DH could do it for you? I know my DH has more success with resetling at night wakings as my DS didn't expect a BF from him like he did from me. Maybe pick a few days when DH isn't up for work in the morning.
I think you mentioned in an earlier post that your DS was becoming more reliant on a dummy. How much is he using this now? All night or just to settle? I don't think it is possible to do pupd with any kind of prop such as a dummy BTW. If your DS is relying on the dummy all night perhaps it is time to wean it?
I agreew ith your points about him being OT. I see you had a super short nap in the car yesterday but assume this is not typical. I always shorten the A time after a short nap by at least 30mins. Have you tried shortening his A time after he short naps?
And I would definitely try to keep his day to 12hrs or less, especially if he has a short nap. So if he was up at 6.30 I would aim for Bt no later than 6.30.
What do you think?
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Hi, all advice is welcome:-). Im typing this on my mobile as our internet is down so if it looks a bit wobbly sorry.:-) Afternoon napping is not great, he only sleep 4 40 mins. I tried 2 get him 2 go 4 a sleep when came home but he had none of it. I do normally shorten A time. He only gets the dummy now 4 sleeping he used 2 have it all the time. It falls out whilst he is sleeping but i think he sometimes wakes up 4 it and cant get back 2 sleep. I really really want 2 stop there night feeds, IMO he doesnt need them. I agree DH would be better at settling him.
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Hi, we had an really great night last night. He was in his bed at 7 and woke up at 1:30, we just kept giving him water instead of feeding. We then used sssh/pat to settle him. It took a few attempts but we got there in the end. Doing the same again 2 nite.
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That's great progress. Well done.
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Hi, just an update on our progress. our 3rd nite was last nite and i still didnt feed him!:-D its still taking an hour 2 settle him at nite. Im hoping that will improve 2 nite.
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Hi. I have a question, its taking me at least an hour and a half 2 settle lo every nite should it be taking as long as this and its been 4 nites is this normal?
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Yesterday was a perfect EASY. Today started off great, but now I have to fit in a CN. After her two hour nap, I thought for sure she could handle a three hour A time. So I tried, but she couldn't handle it. She managed a 2hr and 50min A before her afternoon nap. I knew I would get a 30min nap out of her as she took a while to settle into sleep. Of course, I couldn't extend it, so now I have to fit in a CN. This throws off my no CN. I am hoping to put her down a little after 5pm and aim for a 7:30 bt.
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Hi. Ive not fed him once 4 a wk!which is great. He is still waking once and it takes ages 2 get him back 2 sleep sometimes 2 hrs. He wakes back up every time i get back into bed and we start over again. Im not sure if im doing the ssh/pat wrong if he keeps waking up?
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Waking is all different times from 11:30 to 5. I started off ssh and pat but found that the ssh annoyed him but kept with the pat until he started 2 fall asleep but then i would get into bed and he would wake up. Dh settled him this morning with ssh pat with hardly any pat and is going 2 settle him again 2 nite. What do u think?
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Ive been reading people writing in about white noise but wasnt sure what it was. Im sure it would be helpful. Dh is off work the nxt few nights which im glad about. It can be tough sometimes.
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I think you can also buy white noise CDs which have tracks like washing machine/tumble dryer and hairdryer or car engine idling on them.
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I think i will look into white noise. I think it probably would help him. At nap times and a nite i used 2 be able 2 put him down now i have 2 help him. Im not sure if he just wants 2 hold onto the cot now coz he knows he can stand:-|
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we are struggling now, he woke at 2:50 i done shush/ pat took my hand away and kept with the ssh he was sleeping after 30 mins then he just woke it took 2 hrs to get him back to sleep its draining us all. im not sure what to do now.
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ive just had a thought. could it be possible that from he was little he has always had a sleeping bag and still uses one just now that he has grown out of it and this is annoying him?
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Possibly. Can you try a bigger one that is more comfortable for him?
Are you still using the dummy at night?
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Ive ordered a bigger sleeping bag. Yes we still using dummy he crys big time if it falls out. How could we wean it off him? We had a great nite last nite. He woke at 5:10 and i managed 2 settle him til 6:30
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Wow was 5.10 the only NW? If so that is great.
Regarding weaning the dummy, I'm no expert as we have never used a dummy. Could you perhaps start a new thread in props for some more expert eyes? I say a new thread as more people will look at that and give you advice than they will a new question in this thread which is quite long now.
I do think the dummy dropping out is becoming an issue and causing him to wake everytime he comes into lighter sleep/it falls out.
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i agree the dummy is a problem and has become a prop. we usually now only have one night waking which still takes 2 hrs to settle him and can vary on times but 5 was good and he settles quick after that for a change. i will post over on props to see what they think.