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SLEEP => Night Wakings => Topic started by: Mjaz on January 25, 2012, 01:47:48 am
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DS2 is almost 6 months. He was 3 weeks early. 20lbs already. EBF.
Since I am back to work PT and DS1 has his own schedule, DS2's EASY is sort of all over the place! I try to keep it in the EASY order and keep his feeds 4 hours apart. Our winging it EASY was going well - he was sleeping till 1-2am, bfeeding and then going right back.
For the last 10 days or so, he has been up ALL night. Every hour...sometimes less. I've tried meds in case it was teeth...no difference.
Is this routine!? Is it b/c he has a bit of a rocking prop? OT?
Please help. I'm not functioning!
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Hi Melinda, can you please post your LOs typical EAS ie when he naps and when BT is?
Is he trying todo any new skills ie crawling?
Does he suffer from reflux or any other medical conditions?
You mention you rock him, is this back to sleep at every NW, and to sleep for naps and at BT? Does your LO have a lovey or a dummy?
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Hi Sara...
On a good day when I'm home our EASY looks something like:
Wake: 7
E: 7:15
A: 7-8:30 (seems to want a low A in the morning)
S: 8:30-10
E: 10:15
A: 10-12
S: 12-1:30 (typically wakes at 40 mm here, have to get him back with shh/pat)
E: 1:45
A: 1:30-3:45 (try to stretch here)
S: 3:45-4:30
E: 4:45
A: 4:30-6:30/7
Asleep by 7
He doesn't have any med conditions that I know of. He is trying very hard to move...not sure he's per se trying to crawl, but he's motivated to move, reach, stretch, roll over, etc... Yes, I rock him b/c I generally can't get my 2.5 year old to give me enough time to do much else! Ee. No, at most NWs I can shh/pat him. Sometimes he revs up and to help keep my DH and other son asleep, I rock him back to cease the crying. He does have a lovey, but doesn't seem to care about it. And yes, he loves his pacifier. We try not to use it at BT or during the night b/c once it falls out, he wakes. But often he wants it.
Last night he was up every 20 minutes. Literally. My DH fell asleep with him in the chair at 1:30am and woke there at 6:30. That's the only way any of us got any sleep last night. It's awful. I don't get it AT ALL.
Should I take him to the doctor and rule out ear infection/teeth/reflux??
Thank you!
Melinda
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Hi Melinda,
I don't have any advice for you, but wanted to let you know that you're not alone - I could have written this same post about my six and a half month old. Last night was the WORST - up at 2am and awake until 6am. Like you, we tend to do whatever it takes to prevent him waking our daughter as well. Hopefully these nights of sleep deprivation will pass, but until then keep your chin up and remember that there WILL come a day when you will have to drag them out of bed!!!!
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Okay so a few things here I am wondering about. First is that he may need an A time increase. I notice he was born early so he may not be able to do as longer A times as some other 6 month olds BUT you can certainly try increasing his first A 15mins to see if this helps with his nap. His next A time of 2 hours is too short for his age - unless he gies you a short first nap. If you can get a good morning nap then I would push the next one out closer to 2hrs30mins-2hrs45mins For his CN I would also not let him sleep longer than 30 minutes with BT 1.5hrs later max.
Re the paci I think at this age you will either need to wean it, or allow him to have it as a comfort item. It is confusing for them to be able to have it sometimes for sleep and not others at this age as they are a lot more knowing and if he settles to sleep with it at BT then wakes and it is gone then he will struggle to get back to sleep KWIM? At this age you can teach them to replug themselves at night so that they eventually dont need you. If your LO is waking every 20mins then he isnt really getting into a deep sleep at all.
I would pay your Dr a visit to rule out anything else ie sore ears and maybe check he isnt teething and then we can come up with a plan to get him sleeping better :-*
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Thank you! Sorry I have been MIA for a few days - DS #1 has double ear infections and a cold and DS #2 has bronchitis. Guess that explains a lot, huh?
BUT, I do think we need to start figuring out what to do re: his props. He LOVES his paci. My first son never took one, so this is new to us. What would you suggest? How do I teach him to replug? I don't mind him having it if it helps, but at this point it does not help at all.
I also think he has a rocking/holding prop. He hardly ever settles with shh/pat. It makes him angry. I'm going to try and focus on independent sleep at BT, as that is really the only time I have when my toddler isn't interrupting.
What do you think? I know he's sick at the moment, but to be honest, I think that the props and lack of routine are really coming into play as well.
TIA
Melinda
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Hi Melinda!
I read along your post since I had the same problems with my DS2. V also had these multiple NWs (up every hr or so) for 2 wks as he turned 6 mo. As I figured it out, it was more than one factor that caused it - a huge GS (starting to move around, roll etc), reflux flare up and maybe even teething (though he has no teeth yet)... :-\
If your DS2 is sick, that's one factor for sure, but at 6 mo you have to consider the GS as well. IMO if the NWs don't stop after a few days or after the illness, then you can start thinking about props and routine...
In those 2 wks, when we had NWs, I really had no energy to deal with other issues, I just tried to get him to sleep - and I rocked him even at night, so as to make him sleep... :(
As for paci - my DS1 was addicted and it was his lovey/comfort item. We had some rough nights until he learned to replug, and then when he got older we had some rules as to when he can have it (like he went to sleep/nap with it, or he could have it only in the crib). We weaned it at 3 yo, and luckily had no probs with it, nor with his teeth. For me it was a life saver, as he was a very bad sleeper... Now DS2 takes it only rarely, when he has a (what I call) sucking fit and he's not dependent on it....I think it's your call to decide what you'll do with it. :)
As for independent sleep - V was rocked at each nap/BT because of his reflux (here I couldn't get it medicated, so dr's orders were to hold him for sleep! ). I taught him independent sleep once his reflux got milder, but as DS1 was around, I could do it mostly in the mornings when DS1 was in kindergarten. It's amazing how quickly he learnt what to expect for each nap! Now he's re-learning independent sleep. After those 2 wks I had to start over again... but he's getting the hang of it more quickly now! :)
IMO it's OK to focus on BT only, if that's what suits you. He'll quickly learn to new rules if you're consistent with it!
HTH
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I wouldnt start to try sleep training until he is well.
As for paci - my DS1 was addicted and it was his lovey/comfort item. We had some rough nights until he learned to replug, and then when he got older we had some rules as to when he can have it (like he went to sleep/nap with it, or he could have it only in the crib). We weaned it at 3 yo, and luckily had no probs with it, nor with his teeth. For me it was a life saver, as he was a very bad sleeper... Now DS2 takes it only rarely, when he has a (what I call) sucking fit and he's not dependent on it....I think it's your call to decide what you'll do with it.
Totally agree!
You can keep the paci. I did a lot of A time practice with DS just teaching him the skills to put it into his mouth on his own. He mastered this around 6/7 months. For us it was also a lifesaver as DS has reflux and was just a rubbish sleeper really ::) We have little trouble now and TBH its better than alternatives such as your fingers or the breast.
You can work on GW the rocking etc if you think this will work. DO a little less every night and your LO will eventually accept going into the cot independently. You can also try PU/PD but it doesnt really mix with the paci and it really is a last resort for a lot of mums as it can cause a lot of crying and stress all round.
Oh and focusing on just 1 nap or BT to start with is totally fine as Tecike says....progress is progress ;)
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Ah, I have a lot to work on. Right now I can't even imagine doing anything as his nights are such a mess that his days are too. We've had 20-30 minute naps all day. I'm exhausted!
I often feed/rock/anything to get him to sleep as we are so sleep deprived and he wakes the whole house up if I don't nip it in the bud quickly. What a BW nightmare :)
I'll be back on this thread, I'm sure! Just as soon as I get him better, we'll start tackling props...and pray the NWs get better.
Thank you,
M.
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Good luck - if it's any consolation we are going through the same with our almost 7 month old. It's not easy at all....
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OK, I hope some of you are still here! :)
We're on the other side of illness...Eamon is healthy again and his nights have improved...but, we're still having more NWs than I can handle...or figure out.
So it seems like his pattern is -
Asleep by 7
2-3 early NWs from 7-10ish (very easy, just a quick shh/pat and he's quiet)
NW bet 12-1 - wants to nurse here, usually do as he screams if not
NW bet 4-5 - this one is hard - wants to nurse, try not to, but will take 30-45 min to get him back if I don't
Up for the day between 6 and 7
I'm working on independent sleep at naps and BT and it's going well. I've also decided to LET HIM have his pacifier.
And I'm ALSO working on extending his A times. Sometimes we get great naps, sometimes they're terrible - on the same A time. So...
That's where we are. Thoughts? Are his nights OT? That's a-what-I'm-a-thinking....
Thanks!
Melinda
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I'd guess ot for nights certainly the early evening wakes. best thing for that is to pull bed time back by about 30 min for at least 3 nights and see how you get on. I wonder if it's a stage, we are having issues too after 3 weeks of Sttn! back later with more thoughts
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I feel like this poor kid lives in a state of OT (you'd never know, he's the happiest baby in the world) - b/c of #1's routine! He has never STTN totally. He used to sleep with one NW to eat around 4am...and that was bliss. I didn't even mind it b/c he then slept till 7/8. But then illness struck. And now we're a mess again. Oy! I'll try 6:30 BT tonight. Thanks.
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Hugs and great progress!
usually ENW are a sign of OT, as lisuzie says try an earlier BT and see if it helps. We always got ENW at this age too, a lot of LOs do, I think they grow out of it, but we can try to help :)
What is your EaSY - day looking like at the moment? :-*
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Thanks Sara. We had a pretty good day today-
Wake: 6:30
E: 7
A: 2:00
S: 8:30-10 (1.5 hr)
E: 10:30
A: 2:15
S: 12:45-2:15 (1.5 hr)
E: 2:30
A: 2:30
S: 4:45-5:20 (35)
E: 6
A: 1:25
Asleep: 6:45
He's already been up screaming and crying twice. Ugh!
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Mmmm your day does look great! I do think your LO may need a touch more A in each A time, so maybe 2hrs15, then 2hrs30 then 2hrs45, CN then BT as you are doing.
There is a huge developmental leap, and GS around this age so these could also be at play.
Has your LO started solids yet? Any teeth?
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Just had a 30 min NW :/
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Teeth you think? What time was the NW and how was it? Screaming, unsettled or talking? Hugs x
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Still going. An hour now. Screaming. Won't settle. No signs of teeth :/. Yes, he's had solids for ~2 weeks. 2 x day. Yeah, I know he might need some more A. But today I followed his cues and was so happy with the day. Now this!
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Hi!
Not sure this will help, just a thought... V had a lot of NWs the past week due to tummy ache. He started having constipation issues a while ago, so he got really gassy and his tummy was sore. We got to a point where I had to step back and gave him only liquids (fruit juice and water) for 3 days...Now he's fine and slept OK last night.
Do you think something he ate might have upset his tummy?
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I agree with tecike re sore tummy. Introducing solids can really wreck havoc on their little tummies. I know my boy get lots of sore tummies and had trouble digesting lots of new foods as they were introduced. I remember even at 9 months I stopped giving him dinner and gave something smaller earlier and bam, the long screaming NW stopped!
Personally I wouldn't give fruit juice, but then it isn't recommended in NZwhich is why. I would definitely stick with very gentle food like puréed pear, pumpkin(squash), sweet potato or apple. And a very small amount. Baby cereals can constipate like nothing else, ESP if your LO is formula fed.
I would certainly ty pain relief when he is like this to see how he goes.
Hugs, your day did look great....I suspect it's somethng else.
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Hmmm. OK. Well, he's only had pear, sweet potato, apple and carrot. He's not formula fed, so I'm wondering whether he really could be constipated, you know? EBF babies usually don't suffer from that.
Last night I changed his diaper, his clothes and nursed him a bit and then he settled till 2am.
Would it be harmful to just stop solids for a while to take that out of the equation? Though he loves 'em!
Thanks!
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My V was also EBF until we started solids, and after only 2 wks he started having poops every 2nd or 3rd day, and it got only worse... My HV told me when we finished taking only liquids, that apple and steamed carrot can also constipate. She also said no to banana and potatoes...So far we had only peaches and pumpkin and again we had a day with no poop...:(
BTW by fruit juice I meant the cooking water of prunes and pears, not real store-bought fruit juice...
I don't think that at this age it's harmful to stop solids for a while...you can start over in 2-3 days and keep track of changes. Oh, and I BFd him more often during those no-solids days...
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EBF babies do rarely get constipated, but they also have very sensitive tummies and introducing solids can mess up their balance and cause sore tummies, constipation, diarrhea, they can be intolerant to some foods as well.
If you prefer to keep offering solids then just offer them in the morning after the first BF of the day like breakfast, this way his tummy should be okay at night and anything obvious will be noticed during the day.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking - do breakfast and lunch and that's it. Cool. Thanks.
So does this make any sense? Yesterday he was with nana (aka Queen of OT) and did naps of 45-2.0-45. 2.5 hour A time to bed and then slept really well! Up at 1:30 to eat. And the cursed 4:15 NW, but went back with shh/pat till 7. What gives!?
Sigh.
M.
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:-* Sometimes they just perform for others...the 2.5hr A to bed after a 45min naps does sound about right though :)
How old is he now? What is his first A again? Sorry just wanting to look at it fresh again :-\
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OMG, I am going to sell this kid to the gypsies soon. Wed. we had a great day - he had naps of 1.5, 2.20 and 20 CN. He had one tiny NW early in the night and then one feed at 2:30am. Yesterday I tried to replicate the A times and he had a disastrous day with naps of 40, 35, 40 and 30. He had nearly 20 NWs between 7-11pm. Just could not settle. So I'm inclined to think he needs 4 hours day sleep to have a good night?
What can I do on these days when takes terrible naps (it seems if I don't get nap #1 right, the rest of the day is a wash)...he's totally and completely happy all the time...so it's so hard to read whether he's OT or UT.
Sigh. This house needs some sleeeeeeepppp. Please help!
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early BT for sure will help. Whats normal bedtime for him? On short nap days you can pull it back by about 30-45 minutes. you might get an EW but thats better than a zillion getups, huh?!
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You should totally check out the post I have going on the night wakings board (7 months old and regressing). I swear we could be writing about the SAME child!!! My guy is a dream during the day - happy, never cries, takes naps right on schedule, etc. but at night can be up every 10 minutes at times!!! We haven't slept for 7 months (maybe 5 nights at most!!!) We are currently waiting on a specialist appt to see if there is any underlying reflux/digestive issue and he is on Zantac (day 5 today with no change yet) to see if that does anything. I had successfully weaned the props of rocking/feeding to sleep really easily but have had to reintroduce the rocking just so that we get SOME sleep (without it he will take up to 2 hours to resettle and then sleep for about half an hour!!!) Just know that you are not alone in this...
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Thanks :)
Sara, you still here? What do you think about the fact that E had his best night last night - on a day where he had 4 hours of day sleep. Naps of 1:30, 1:30 and 1hr. He had one brief NW at 10:30pm, and then ate at 3am, up for the day at 7:15. Awesome compared to the typical night!
Today he's done:
wake: 7:15
A: 2:45 (fell asleep for a couple minutes in the car earlier in the morning!)
S: 10-11:30 (1.5)
A: 2:45
S: 2:15 - still sleeping now, at 4:15.
So I think I'll skip the CN. Yay. So if he does well on a 2:45 A time, I can just start skipping the CN about now, right? And 2:45 is about right at 6 months, yes? I wonder what the night will bring!
Thanks!
Melinda
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Good luck! My guy does WAY better at night with more day sleep...trouble is that it can get really tough to get that day sleep when you have an older one running around!!! Hope tonight is good...
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Hi Melinda,sorry I was off most this weekend. It was DH and Is 5th wedding annerversary so am catching up today.
TBh I suspect he may have been catching up on OT which is part of the 3-2. Today looks great too. With two long naps and EBT he should be okay, but if you prefer to hang onto the CN your nights just be a bit shorter.
I think your right though in that he def needs 3.5 hrs day sleep and not too much A to BT. if he has less ie 3 or 2.75hrs then the rougher nights will be likely to be OT from this.
He does sound like he's doing well though...playing the days by ear based on each nap length is the Way to go here really, which is exactly what you are doing ;)
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Oh that's OK Sara! Happy anniversary :)
I thought yesterday was a great day - as was today. 2 longish naps, no CN, EBT.
WELLLLL....last night he had a 2+ hour NW. Absolutely unreal. First crying. Then talking to himself. Then wide awake. Would not go back to sleep. I almost had a meltdown, as he woke DS #1 up, etc, etc... Anyway, at 12:30am, I finally fed him and that was the only thing that got him to sleep. He woke again at 4:30, ate and went back till nearly 9am. Ugh.
I just do not get what is going on with him. I feel like I have tried to rule out everything. It just does not make any sense to us...!!!
:( It's 8:45pm here and I am headed to BED. I'm beyond exhausted.
Talk soon,
Melinda
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(HUGS) How old is he now? Sounds like WW business, or teeth?
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He's 6 months, I week. What's WW???
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Wonder week...Developmental leap
http://www.thewonderweeks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64&Itemid=157
http://blogginaboutbabies.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/wonder-week-26/
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Ah, OK. Maybe? Anything I can do? We're at the end of our ropes, here... Would you feed at NW if he doesn't go to sleep for a long time...?
Thank you. I appreciate your help...
M.
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I guess it depends on where you are all at.
Lets see if we can work this kid out...so these NW, what happens when first waking? Are the NW usually after 12 now?
I am wondering if your LO is getting close to only needing 2 naps and can maybe handle more A than you think....long NW usually are developmental, teeth, OT or UT, and it can be hard to know what but for us they were usually UT not OT as if OT a quick cuddle/resettle would send Z off again.
So no teeth or bulging gums you can see right?
You dont suspect pain or sore tummy?
If neither of these then I am thinking routine and possibly a bit of sleep training.
Can you repost your EASY so we can see an up to date picture...just yesterdays or todays :-*
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Hi, just jumping on to offer some hugs !!
As Sara said, for us long NW's were UT. We used to get 2hr long NWs at this age where I finally gave up and just watched TV for the 2 hrs then put M back to bed. In time I figured out that he needed longer A times. ... Hang in there hun, it WILL get better.
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I agree. And I've been trying longer A times, but there are times when after just 2 hours, he is literally CRYING to go to sleep. And this kid never, ever cries. No, his NWs are both before and after 12. Almost ALWAYS wakes up several times between 9pm and 11pm. Then around 2 to eat. And 4-5am. Sigh. Usually before 12 they are cries...and he'll settle easy. The 4am one is typically talking/sighing...but eyes closed still...
No signs of teeth. No, I don't think it's tummy.
Yesterday was an off schedule day, so here's the day before:
wake: 6:30am
E: 7am, solids 7:45
A: 2:30
S: 9-10:20 (1:20)
E: 10:45, solids 11:20
A: 2:30
S: 12:55-2:25 (1:30)
E: 2:45 (just milk)
A: 2:45
S: 5:05-5:25 (woke him)
E: 6 (just milk)
A: 1:35
S: 7
Somedays with good naps we don't need the CN...but most days we do. I don't think his days are so bad! But 5-6 NWs at this age? Oy.
Thanks, ladies.
Melinda
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Hi Melinda,
Do you feed him when he first wakes between 9 and 11? Maybe it would get him past the 2am (or eliminate the 4) waking? Those times (apart from there being multiple wakings between 9 and 11) are the natural times for babies to stir, so I wonder if the wakings are just habitual. Do you need to go in at 4 or does he just chat for a while? Tracy wrote that most babies waking in the night and are up for a bit (~20mins) and then go back to sleep. I would ignore him if he is not crying.
I would treat the evening waking like a DF for a week and see if that leaves you with fewer overnight wakings :)
I do think that the CN starts to be a problem at this age, but would it cause 5-6 wake ups I wonder?
It is tiring, isn't it?
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Just to confirm these cryouts. Before 12 do you have to go in or are they brief cryout then stop like in is sleep?
I wouldn't worry too much about the morning one if he isnt crying for you. .EW are common around this age and if you can leave him to it and he eventually drifts off he will eventually learn to sleep through this one. ( I agree with c mother and trying the DF could be a good idea to try)
I really think you need to push those A times Hun, the CN may just need to go or your days get longer. Can you try for just 15 mins longer each A. 1hr20 min naps for us are usually UT. How does he wake from this nap?
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Yes, we have to go in and resettle him when he wakes. Mostly it's less than a minute if shh/pat. Sometimes we have to pick him up. Sometimes he's crying/awake for 2 hours :/. The bad NW seems to always be in the 10 o'clock hour. Maybe that's where I should try a DF?
He's never woken upset from a nap. He's the happiest baby. I will try pushing A times by 15 tomorrow as I'm home with himall day.
Thank you! Today was OTfest with Nana, so I'm probably in for a fun night :/. I'll let you know how doing a DF works!
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If I knew what giving up looked like I would!!! Tried pushing A times - crappy 45 min naps all day. Tried DF at 10:30 at NW. Still woke at 1am. Took another full feed at 2 (I could not get him back) and then up at 4,5:30 and 6:30am. Probably about a dozen NWs last night. I am a zombie.
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Hun I really think the NF are causing you issues here :-\ are you able to hold strong on not feeding accept maybe 1 a night or at least 4 hrs apart through the night?
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Yes, we were only feeding once around 2am - I was trying to follow the advice here to try and DF him when he woke around 10. Last night he woke every hour. 2 months ago he was waking once around 3am to nurse and that was it. Makes no sense to me!
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SO maybe the DF is interrupting his sleep if he is waking more with it?
Are you sure there is no discomfort? I know I sound like a broken record but frequent NW like that often mean some kind of pain. Do you think any of the solids could be causing tummy trouble?
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He cut 2 teeth today!!!! :) hopefully we've got ourselves an answer here! Thank you for hanging in with me Sara!
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Yay...damn teeth are sneaky like that.
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Yup it was 3 weeks of teething pain we think. With meds he's had 2 awesome nights in a row and a 3 hour nap yesterday! Think he needed some catch up. Poor kid. Thanks again ladies!
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:-* Teeth and virus's the two things that always mess sleep up without you working it out for a week or two :( ::) Great you know what it is now, hope those teeth come through fast!
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Well..….......teeth are through. NWs are still here :(. DH and I are looooosing it. We're already on NW #2 at 9pm. Seems we'reback to the same 'ol NW filled nights!
:(
Melinda
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:( :(
What was yesterdays EASY like?
What are you currently doing at the NW?
Do you think your LO is well ATM?
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W: 7:45
E: 8:15, solids 9:15
A: 2:45
S: 10:30-1:30 (3.0) (not typical! I'm just not keen on waking babies)
E: 2, solids 3
A: 2:50
S: 4:20-5 (40)
E: 6 (just nursing), top off 3oz formula at 7
A: 2:15
S: 7:15
Shh/pat at NWs. Fed at 11 and 3:30. Between 7:15pm and 11pm he must have woken 10+ times. OT?
Yes, he's well.
:(
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I really think it looks like he is still poorly hun..the looonng nap and then frequent NW (I mean very frequent) His day doesnt look to bad though he needs his A times pushed but as you say he has been unwell. :-\
I think once he is well you need to push those A times. At least 3hrs between naps, and longer to BT unless he short naps. I would aim for a 3hr A, then a 3hr15 A then play the last one by ear. Hopefully its the short A time that is causing the frequent NW but Im still worried that with that many maybe something is upsetting him :-\
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Do you think his teeth are still bothering him? Why doesn't medicating seem to make a difference? He did another big morning nap - 2:45 and a 1:15 pm nap. Then 2:30 A to bed. He made it 2 hours and then just had a quick BW. We'll see. At about 2:30 A time this morning he was hysterical...I don't think I can push A times till he gets a good nights sleep. What a vicious cycle! Thanks Sara.
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Ok what could this be??? He's been up every 15 min for 1.5 hours. I just gave him advil and nursed him for a few minutes. He's so restless. Could this be...
Prop? Pacifier?
Tummy? Should I stop solids? Feed more formula? (he's almost EBF)
Stop any formula?
OT? UT?
I'm stumped!!!!
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That's so tiring :(
I would guess something is up with him too if he is waking so frequently.
As for routine, I think that you are right about it being a vicious cycle, but as it stands, he does seem to be between 2 and 3 naps. I don't think that your routine is sustainable at the moment because he is probably not getting enough A overall (not even 8 hours a day - and, I think 16 hours of sleep a day is already very high needs for a 7 month old). Personally, I would go with the shorter A in the morning if that is what he likes, and try to add in the afternoon and evening. The 2h30min A before bed after the 1h15min nap seems too short to me if you want to do only two naps :P
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Hun I think he is a bit poorly still BUT as C_Mother says you need to push those A times to get any improvement. I know its hard. But he is getting into an UT/OT cycle.
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So what should I be shooting for for A rimes -3hr? We're definitely in a bad cycle. I tried pushing his A times today and had trouble. 3 naps: 1:30, 45, 45. Would just A times be causing this incredible disruption? Would you medicate? Would you try to withhold solids &/or formula? Could it be an upset stomach? Thanks for hanging in with me!!!
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SO the 1.30 nap looks good. What was that A time?
45 usually means UT...can you post the day. Im thinking you may need to stick with 2 naps and a setish routine (A times not set naps) of something like this
WU 7.30
A 2hrs45mins (or if you pushed further today to get 1.5hrs stick with that)
Nap 10.15 for 1.5hrs
A 3
Nap 2.45 for 1.5hrs
A 3
BT 7.15 (or a touch later)
I would certainly keep solids away from 4pm onwards and stick with foods you know are safe ATM ie pear/pumpkin/sweet potato just to rule it out as an issue. Re formula, if you have recently introduced it and you feel it could be a problem then if you can I would try going back to BF or only offering the formula in the morning....
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well, the reason we started giving him 2-4 oz. of formula before bed was b/c I didn't have enough it seemed...since I was nursing him around 4:30-5. this isn't anything new - we've been doing it for months. but last night we didn't give it to him at all. and he was fine. made it to 3am without eating and though he still had the NWs, they were easier. not sure if that means something or not. but I'm going to hold off again tonight and see.
thanks,
Melinda
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How did it go? Hope he slept better last night.
Are the NWs mostly in the evening?