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SLEEP => Night Wakings => Topic started by: Fr00tbat on May 03, 2012, 00:43:13 am
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Am in v similar boat -
How old is your child: 16 weeks
What’s his/her daily routine?
E-07 A-0730-0745 S-0830 40-90 mins
E-10 A-1030-1045 S-1130 40-90 mins
E-1300 A-1330 S-1430
E-1600 A-1615
E1830 A-1900 bath E-1930
S-2000.
What’s nap routine? Nappy change, grobag, book, into darkened room, in cot awake, modified shush pat if required ( no patting just hand on chest).
How long are naps? 40 minutes then he wakes and I can sometimes shush/pat back to sleep = 40-90 mins
What's bedtime routine? Time? Feed, bath, cream for eczema, feed, In bed awake 2000
Do you bottle or breastfed?? Breast feed
How much? or how long? Both sides every feed- 15-20 mins each side. Small baby so ongoing concern re weight.
How many wakes per night?
Until 14 weeks was waking at 0400-0500 feeding, sleeping to 0700. Then got a cold and stopped gaining weight- advised to feed 2hrly in day- so I did- gained weight but sleeping gone to pot!!
Awake 0000-0100- sometimes settles self, tonight required 40 minute feed as failed to settle with shushing ( escalating screaming).
Last few nights up 0230- shushed to 0300- feed- asleep to 0630/0645, shushed to 0655- nappy change and feed.
I have devoted the last 10 days to sorting out his sleep snd naps- he properly back on 3 hr EASY now - has been for a week! Have succeeded in getting him to self sooth most if time- considering 2 weeks ago he would scream if we went near the cot awake, and fed to sleep st night consider this major progress.
Am worried i am feeding habitual waking- but in view of weight i cant not feed if fails to settle with usual methods. He wakes when i try to df- so gave up abd did modified clyster/ split feed around bath- tanking him for the night which always worked well.
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Do they have a prop? Was me/breast- not for last 10days- and has never had a paci- always spat it out!
Do they have a lovie? no
What am I doing wrong???
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Hi Fr00tbat, welcome to BW! First off, well done on teaching him to self settle! That's such a great accomplishment. I don't think you're doing anything wrong, dear. If he needs to gain weight, you need to feed him. One rule of thumb I always use is to not feed any shorter interval during the night than I did during the day. So, if he's back to 3 hr in the day, he can go 3 hr at night. I would continue to feed him when he needs it until you're sure he's back on track from the cold/weight-wise and then start to push out the feeds using shh/pat. So, when he wakes shh/pat him back to sleep, but then if he wakes again within the hour or so, feed him. The goal being to get that later every few nights. You will also be wanting to start transitioning to a longer A time/routine. One last thing... as I look through your routine, the last sleep you have is at 2:30 pm (I'm assuming this is done by 4) and then BT is at 8 pm. This long A time is most likely contributing to some overtiredness, which won't help the NWs. I would try to either add in a catnap (for 30 min or so) around 6 pm, or do bedtime at 6:30/7 pm latest. Hope that helps!
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Thanks for reply- so awake again here - is 0500. Effectively we are feeding 4hrly overnight from sttn 2 weeks ago.
Will try adding in a 30 min catnap 1730-1800- do i just wake him up at 30 minute mark??
The reason he goes so long (1600-2000) is because prior to his cold and sleep regression napping that late made it impossible to get him to go to sleep ( he reversed day and night so i limited him to 3x 1hr and stretched it to 3x1.5) think we are better equipped to deal with that now so worth a shot.
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Am worried that I am feeding him through habit, and that I will undo all the hard work of getting him to sleep without the boob- just to start again.
Im finding it hard because I was sure I knew his tired,hungry, OS cries- but at night he almost always sounds tired unless he has slept a long time then sounds clearly hungry.
Was so proud of self and him for teaching him to soothe, want to feed him as he is little and once feeding clearly hungry- put scared each time i may be making the wring call and reinforcing bad habits. :-(
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Hi Sweetie, Just so we have some context, can you just run through the weight issue if you don't mind sharing? DS had weight gain issues too and I know the worry and don't want to advise something that is not good for him but at the same time, DS put on over a pound a week once I sorted out the BFing issues I had and was feeding less frequently.
I think realistically, he's nearly 4 months old and should probably be moving towards a 4hr EASY to help out with his day naps and his night sleep. We can help you tweak the routine so you can feed him more often that 4-hrly which a lot of EBF babies do need until they start solids, usually at around 6 months.
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Thanks- Babybat was born with a tongue tie- which recurred 3 times and was clipped 3 times. He lost 14% BW in first week and ended up on 9th percentile- from 50th!! He made really good gains once tongue sorted and was following around 15th percentile but every cold/ tummy bug really upsets his weight. He got a bad cold after last set of jabs a month ago and only out on an oz in 2 weeks- advised to up feedings to 2hrly to fit in more during day as was sleeping through 2000-0400/0500 ( he is ebf and I feel v strongly that if we can manage ebf I want to continue). Was told as was sleeping thru that supply may have taken a hit which I think did appen as he wasn't feeding well with cold either.
Anyway - he put on 6oz last week and so moved him back onto 3hrly easy- which made the nap training much easier. Had seen about moving to 4hrly but worried re weight- but if can do with extra feeds it might work well. He can manage around 1.75 awake time, maybe 2.
Will this help with our late afternoon long active spell??
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And apparently we no longer do napping- all that work, aaaarrrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!
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He can manage around 1.75 awake time, maybe 2.
Will this help with our late afternoon long active spell??
Ok, I think getting longer A times more consistently through the day for him will probably help with the long spell in the evening. and the NW's once he's getting the right A times and sleep.
What I think you could try re: feeds is to feed when he wakes and again after 30-45min playing. This way he is still going 3hr between some feeds and as you grow more confident in his weight gain and your supply, you can shrink that time between the two parts of the feed and get it to be one big feed.
DS was born on the 25th centile and by 6 weeks was below the 3rd centile. I think your LO at least had a reason to lose weight and he'll pack it on once you get feeding down pat. Now the tongue tie and illnesses are over, things should pick up.
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Could i bother you sketch out a potential EASY for me as struggling a bit to work it out today. Thank you for the suggestion- think is good idea.
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7 - awake, BF
7:45/8 - topup BF
9 - nap
11 - awake, BF
11:45/12 - topup BF
1 - nap
3 - awake, BF
3:45/4 - topup BF
5 - CN (wake at 30mins)
5:30 - BF
Immediately after, start bath, bed routine incl. bedtime feed
in bed asleep by 7pm
You've got lots of feeds in there and you can still have confidence he can go 3hr between feeds. He's also got a lot of cluster feeding before bed which should enable him to get a good long stretch in at the beginning of the night. DS fed 5-6 times in 24hr at this age and I was still oversupplied. You are a different person, but I just say this to alert you to the possibility that your supply is not actually that terribly low. There's a very high likelihood that your baby is getting enough nourishment.
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Really great advice from Bec. I'd work on getting your day sorted first and still feed 4 hrly overnight if you need to. I know you're a bit worried about this creating bad habits, but you do have the hard part done (self-settling, etc). Once your day is sorted and he's getting all those feeds, my guess is that he'll start to stretch out on his own at night. If he doesn't, then it will not be hard for you to help him along the way because he knows how to sleep independently and you've got him on a good routine. :)
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That is brilliant- thankyou. He has been a little toad all day after hideous night- overtired and grumpy- did add in a catnap at 1700 today. Will start moving him accross on weekend and let u know how we are getting on.
Thankyou!!
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He has put on 10oz in 2 weeks- thrilled!!
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He has put on 10oz in 2 weeks- thrilled!!
WOOOHOOO!!!! Fantastic. Its so nice when they start to gain after having so much worry.
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That's really great! Well done!! ;D
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I know i should probably ask this question in naps but have been trying to move Eli onto routine you outlined- he getting tired at around 1hr50- so currently on 3.5hr easy as cant last the 4
His am nap is usually short at 40-50 mibs but wakes up bright and chirpy. Second nap can vary 40-90 mins- have extended to the 90 with some success, afternoon naps hace resulted in serious meltdown of baby and mummy for last 5 days- only sleeps 30 mins and screams for rest of nap time whilst i try to pu/pd with no success- works at other times - shush patting now just seems to anger him (again last few days). Had to give him to Daddy this pm and leave room was finding it so awful- he screamed for a couple of mins then calmed down and was giggling- but wont feed properly now - please can someone help? What am i doing wrong??
Pu/pd- was already waking when i got to room- ititially mantra cry so observed when it escalated i pucked him up and popped him back down as soon as he stopped screaming- he started again and again- think am doing this right but gave up just before next feed time. Which is most important- feeding or sleeping on the routine- wondered if hungry amd that why wouldnt go back down- but ate poorly when offered! Overtired?? Should i try 3hr easy at end of day and reduce his waking time that way??
I dont know what to do-
Today so far;
Awake 0730 ( overslept as bad night- up 3 times and slept through alarm)
E 0730-0810
S 0906-1007. Awake and chirpy - played to delay feed time.
E 1036-1109
S 1228-1316, then pupd slept 1335-1352
E 1416-1446
S 1554-1630 - tried pupd for 50 mins -dirty nappy so change then required
Given to daddy
E 1730-1750 - v fussy
Plan to split top up feed at 1830, bath, other side feed, then bed by 2000 latest.
Advice again- am trying so hard and this is making us both v miserable.
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please can someone help? What am i doing wrong??
You're not doing anything wrong, I think he's in an UT/OT loop and it's much harder to settle an OT baby in the late afternoon. You said that he gets tired around 1 hr 50 min, but the first A today was only 1 hr 30 min. He gave an hour nap, so likely he was a bit UT for that one. Then, the next A time as 2 hr 20 min, way too long after just an hour nap, so he woke and you resettled (which is great, btw). It still wasn't a full nap, though, so the next 2 hr A time was likely a bit much again and he just ended up fighting you. It's happened here many a time. :-\ I'd really try to work on getting him to at least 1 hr 45 A in the morning. If he gives a short nap, watch him closely as you may need to cut back the next A. It's different for all babies, but my general rule of thumb is, if the nap is 45 min or shorter, cut the next A by 30 min; if the nap is more like 1-1:20, cut by 10-15 min.
Which is most important- feeding or sleeping on the routine- wondered if hungry amd that why wouldnt go back down- but ate poorly when offered! Overtired?? Should i try 3hr easy at end of day and reduce his waking time that way??
At this age and with his history, I'd say feeding is more important. Tracy advises to only try and extend a nap until the next feeding time, and actually with two kids, I only ever try for 15-20 min now. For the initial PUPD, you try for 45 min, take a break and then go try again. I don't know why he would be feeding poorly, do you think he's feeling ok? And yes, you can go down to a 3 hr EASY near the end of the day, it's kind of like I described above with reducing the A times.
This is tough work, I'm sorry you've both been miserable. Take him out for a walk in the stroller in the afternoon if you have another really tough day. He might just drop off for a bit and the fresh air helps everyone. (((Hugs)))
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Thankyou. Will watch those A times more!! Assume I leave the feed times as is ??
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Pu/pd- was already waking when i got to room- ititially mantra cry so observed when it escalated i pucked him up and popped him back down as soon as he stopped screaming- he started again and again- think am doing this right but gave up just before next feed time.
I wouldn't be doing PUPD unless shush/pat or some variation is not working, especially if you're going to stop and feed him without him falling back to sleep first. It reinforces the message that he will get fed if he cries for long enough and that will make future sleep training much harder. With PUPD, baby uses a lot of energy too and you don't want him expending that amount of energy when he's only just started gaining good amounts of weight after having such trouble.
I'd try shush/pat to resettle (maybe a variation like just singing and holding your hand on him or stroking his face). Frankly, with DS, I resettled OT nap wakings and just got him up and reduced the next A time when he woke UT because it was so hard to resettle UT naps.
Part of the key to this is to relax too. I had such trouble whe I was working really hard at keeping the routine and once I pretty much gave up and followed the general principles, things went much better. Don't worry too much about getting things wrong a bit here and there, you being relaxed will help Eli relax and fall into routine more easily.
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Shush pat doesn't work unfortunately- it used to, even modified versions seem to wind him up!!!
I thought I was supposed to stop and feed if pupd encroached on feeding time then keep activity quiet and keep awake until next a time over!
Will try and sort A times, retry shushing and pupd if fails again. Will try to relax.
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Yeah, I think you are supposed to do that for the day, hun but TBH, given he's so small still, I wouldn't.
Does he settle if you PU and hold? Just getting used to sleeping longer is going to take time after this 2hrly feeding thing.
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Yes- picking him up settles him most of the time.
We had a mixed day yesterday- stuck to 1h45 A times for first 2 naps- self soothed from awake in cot- woke at 45, self soothed again and did 90 each time- in fact I had to wake him on secind nap. However we had to nip out for some shopping, got timing wrong as started to yawn in supermarket- nodded off on way home- was asleep 8 mins in car seat, woke himself tjen would not go back down- screamed with shushing, wide awake so didnt pupd- took him to his room for quiet play after 40 mins- happy and chirpy- fed him at next feeding time and still perky- did bath and just started to get cranky just before his feed- had been awake nearly 4hrs at that point- beside self. But settled himself again in less than 5mins- and apart from some minor whinging at 2330- he has just woken for first time- best night for 2weeks!!!!!
Plan of action: aim for 1h45 wake times for first 2 naps as suggested, but reduce a time to roughly 1h30 for 3rd nap- shorter if necessary - and see how we do! Will still have a longer A time before bed but will work on juggling it to reduce.
Will retry shushing again and see if i can find something that works
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Yay for the self settling and the good night! ;D It sounds like you've got a good plan of action too. I'd be careful about letting that A get too long before bed, though, as that is likely where OT can creep in and make for a tougher night. Is there a reason why you think that 3rd A needs to be shorter? If you can keep it at 1 hr 45 and reduce the A time to bed, I think that would probably be best. But, all LOs are different! Keep us posted! :)
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Yesterday he got cranky and tired around 1h30 mark- perhaps will try calmer activities and see if we can lengthen!!! I need husband home to bath him ( i have long term back issues and cant get him out by myself as too heavy (hoorah!!) hence fixed bedtime, will attempt some fiddling as suggested and see!!
We did 2000-0314, feed, 0350-0700 last night- bit of a shock and some engorgement but taken really good feed this am so v pleased!
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Yeah, I don't think that's too bad, he's going ok with 1hr45 for the first 2 A times and may just need a few days adjusting to that before you push the third one out...
Nice night :)
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Gotcha, good point by Bec as well. That was a great night! ;D Keep up the good work.
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Had his jabs today- And we are up already with no sign going back down- wide awake amd jittery- have given some calpol, fed him, settled as well as can- think is going to he a rough one.
Naps did not go to plan today either- put him down after first yawn at 0830- full meltdown and overtired crowing and finally settled by self at 0900- managed 1h6 . Next nap went into got at 1200 after first yawn, asleep 1215, awake 40 mins in, soothed self, awake 49minutes - would not go back down! Jabs were at 1425, he just nodded off for 1-2 mins as we pilled into drive- took him upstairs, tried to keep it liw key and popped him into bed awake at 1450- asleep after 30 mins but only for 30 mins, and could not settle. Allowed him a 30 min cat nap at 1730 ( he fell asleep on my shoulder without me noticing- v sudden!!)but was v off colour and clingy all pm.
Guess we try to get through night without accidental patenting, hope calpol does its thing and try again tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
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Let him sleep as much as he needs while his immune system is working on the vaccinations. He'll feel like he's ill because his body is fighting.
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Calpol did its thing and wasnt up again last night- didnt feed well yesterday so guess is why up twice already ( bed at 0810, up 0150 and 0450) - naps going so much better- thankyou!!!
Hopefully we can settle back to 1 night feed soon - once he is over jabs maybe!
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Yeah, a little extra TLC is required when they've had their jabs :) You'll get him back on track, you're off to a great start!
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Yeah, a little extra TLC is required when they've had their jabs :) You'll get him back on track, you're off to a great start!
Agreed on both accounts! :)
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This is getting worse and worse- waking earlier and earlier- naps pretty perfect today, fed well and woke at 2230 and again now- this is worst night so far. He is really restless and difficult to settle- he is really tired- crying for 1hr 40 mins- shushing not working- wants to be cuddled. We were better off a week ago
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Has been nearly 2 hrs- now pecking and am sure he must be hungry now too- have decided to stop trying to settle and feed- i know am not supposed to stop pupd but am pretty sure he is now hungry!!
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(((Hugs))), were the jabs just 2 days ago? I think it can be normal for symptoms to last up to 3 days. It sounds like he's in discomfort and PUPD isn't recommended when they're ill or in pain. Don't worry about stopping this one time, I think you did the right thing. Did you give meds again tonight?
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No meds as settled really well initially and he doesnt like calpol v much! Am really hoping this ends soon- he has been doing so well in day and soothing himself at night- then tonight happened- he wasnt brilliant wed night either- we had full meltdown between 5-6 as wouldnt settle. I have a few questions ;
As we are having such a bad night- I assume I watch cues and pit him to bed earlier as required and slot in catnap if big gap at end of day??
What do I do tonight if he wont settle- wasnt really pupd as so upset he took ages to settle- on the couple of occasions he started to doze he startled awake despite my hand on chest. He really seems to hate the shushing and hand on vhest thing tjat worked beautifully until a week ago- suggestions??
This is so hard- feel we are getting nowhere and am making everything worse.
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It does sound like he was probably uncomfortable again. You're not making things worse, don't worry. Let's see what tonight is like and if the behavior continues, we'll try to get it figured out.
As we are having such a bad night- I assume I watch cues and pit him to bed earlier as required and slot in catnap if big gap at end of day??
Yes, if you can't get a CN, you need to do an early bedtime. What has your EASY looked like the last few days?
He really seems to hate the shushing and hand on vhest thing tjat worked beautifully until a week ago- suggestions??
At that age, I turned DS on his side and patted his bum while I shh'd. Or you could stroke his forehead and hum or sing softly.
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Will try stroking head and humming etc and see. Was also considering a bit of calpol tonight. Easy based on following:
E. 0700
S. 0845-1015(1hr45)
E. 1030
S. 1200-1330 (1hr45)
E. 1330
S. 1515-1645(1hr 45)
E. 1700
Bath. 1900 ( have to wait for daddy for this)
E. 1930 bed at 2000
Aiming for 90 min naps- definately happening more often - but he has to extend himself- i have been unable to do this- have tried to put a 30 min catnap in at 1730 when pm nap short, with variable success! Have had to add in a couple of top up feeds when awake a while but do it post nappy, pre nap not during settling period!
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Ok, so your last A time is definitely too long there, which is likely playing a part in those very unsettled NWs. He's got to be pretty OT by BT as his A time has almost doubled what it usually is. You either need to try and squeeze in a CN somewhere (maybe 20 min at 1830) or bring bedtime way back (at 1830/1900 latest). It sounds like you have a good bath routine going with dad, so I'd try for the CN. You'll be able to drop it pretty quick when you start to stretch the A times out to 2 hr or so.
Hope you had a better night!
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Ok. Excuse my ignorance, but do his A times just lengthen naturally over time or do I need to assist? Once he can do 2 hrs he moves to fully fledged 3.5hr easy with top up feeds as needed and shown in your suggestion.
Will add in catnap and see. No meltdown tonight and a bit more settled - slept 2000-0145, feed, 0222-0444, feed, should hopefully go through to 0700 now.
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do his A times just lengthen naturally over time or do I need to assist?
This depends on the baby and how much you're able to read and follow his cues. If you're going off his cues with half an eye on the clock, you'll probably notice being quite natural. If you notice naps shrinking from 1.5hr down to 1hr15, its time to increase the A time as he's UT at naptime :)
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Cat naps are still an utter failure- spend so long trying with late pm naps that nap time has well and truly passed- but he did sleep 2000-0330, 0400-0645 last night and has had 2 90 min naps today. It is just the late afternoon it becomes a real problem and am worried that he is going to get the message that mummy will give up if he just screams for long enough- what do I do??
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Can you get 30 min in if you take him out in the stroller or run an errand in the car at that time? Otherwise, his nights are going pretty well, really (they're just a bit on the short side), so maybe it's time to just start pushing the other A times during the day so they're more even and you might even get longer naps. What do you think?
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How old is he now, Fr00tbat?
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18 weeks
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Quick question- last few nights have been a bit better- but last night and tonight woke at 0220- having been down 6hrs almost to the minute- taken full feeds both nights but worried as time exactly same- should I try to push this out?? Bit worried will end up with 2 night feeds again as will wake again at 0530.
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last night and tonight woke at 0220- having been down 6hrs almost to the minute- taken full feeds both nights but worried as time exactly same- should I try to push this out??
That's a pretty good stretch, I think that when he's waking after the same amount of time, that's just his limit and he's really hungry.
Bit worried will end up with 2 night feeds again as will wake again at 0530.
Its not unreasonable (quite normal in fact) to have two NFs at this age still but I'd try to resettle at 5:30 as its 3hr since the last night feed. You could also feed at that waking and limit it to a smaller feed and hope he takes a full feed at wakeup or give him a topup feed when he wakes up for the day if you give a full feed at the 5:30 NW. I think you still need to keep the nights long as he's only just scraping past 10hr nights - they should be closer to 12hr nights.
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I hit reply to see that Bec has already posted, so I'll just add my 2 cents. :)
I agree to just feed him at that first waking. If it becomes a habit over the next couple weeks or so, you can look at trying to extend it, but 6 hrs is definitely a reasonable stretch for his age. I would also try to resettle at the 5:30 am time. DS easily resettled in the wee hours without a feed until about 6 mo old. If you choose to feed, Bec's given great suggestions. I always chose the small feed just to get through to wakeup.
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After 4 nights with 1 feed- we had horrible day on Thursday and dreadful unsettled night which led to poor nap friday am- 45mins and crying at end but would not settle- managed to get him out in stroller twice yesterday but he only napped an hour each time- cat naps have been a humungous failure- can take an hour or so to settle if he does at all- usually just results in screaming. Settling for naps just gets worse as day progresses- and always seens to mess up his EASY timings!
Anyway- we are up and anticipate being up again in 2.5-3hrs. Is horrible.
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Will see if can settle if less than 3.5 hrs from this feed- otherwise will see if can give him shorter feed to get us through to morning.
I know his naps get harder as he gets more tired and am trying to alter his A times accordingly but he just so much harder to settle and despirate not to get into bad habits.
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Its quite early to drop the CN, but maybe he's wired for a long night? So I'm thinking 14hr night with two solid naps during the day. It may seem odd but it would get rid of the CN fighting and may help restore him better with a long night.
What do you think?
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There is no way i can get him down before 8 - with best will in world- he needs bathing for his skin and i cant lift him in and out- he also awake and chirpy at 0700 when he wakes- he has been getting 11 hrs at night - he just does his big block at start Then wakes at intervals after this- on a good night he will do 2000-0300/0330 then 0330/0400-0700. He did that from 9 weeks to 15 weeks consistently- then regression hit- and was told to feed 2hrly for weight and all went pear shaped!!.
On ideal day he would sleep longer than 90 mins- if i try to push him out to 2hr a time and top up feed prenap we might make a 4hr EASY- will take a while to move him over though. At the moment he wakes 0700 and day looks like this:
E. 0700
S. 0845-1015(1hr45)
E. 1030
S. 1200-1330 (1hr45)
E. 1330
S. 1515-1645(1hr 45)
E. 1700
E. 1830
Bath. 1900
E. 1930
The first 2 naps he does fine most days , the last one takes far longer to settle and sleeps for less time- maximum 1sleep cycle and cannot extend it.
Will persist in getting longer naps i guess- feel like am getting glued to house, am anxious looking at watch whole time and tired of being screamed at- it didnt used to be like this :-(
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Ok, so how about relaxing about it for a few days?
Just follow EAS order and follow his cues. If he puts out tired cues, try shifting him to a new activity and if he's still grizzly, put him to bed. This will allow you to see what his natural rhythms are doing at the moment and may help you keep your sanity. I actually took my watch off for a few days and I had a much happier child because whilst I was winging it, I did have a routine - not a schedule - and that meant he knew what was coming next. When he woke, he got fed, then he played, then he slept.
Keep a nap in the pram or something if you have to but make sure you get out as you don't want to be getting cabin fever - not fun and can spiral downwards quite fast. Its a lot more important for you to be relaxed than most people give credit for. Babies pick up on your stress/anxiety and mirror it back to you.
Can you bath him in the morning? I had forgotten about your back issue, sorry.
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Thanks. Apologies for radio silence.
Took advice- took watch off!!
He seems to have settled into a new pattern.
Daytime naps are a bit unpredictable but he has been getting 3.5 hrs or so in total. Have managed a couple of dats with later naps to 1700-1730.
Has also extended his A times some up to 2 hrs before tired!! They fet shorter as day progresses but seems to be ok!
Last 4 nights- sleep at 2000. Waking between 0120-0130- full feed- asleep until 0530- grumbles a bit- settles self ( can take a while - but never cries - is always cooing and grunting as he tries to roll over) then sleeps to 0700.
Is much better. Is there a reason for the early morning waking? Should I try to extend the 0130 - think will be difficult as he is genuinely hungry- or just accept that this is just normal for him??
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I think its fine. It could be a spot of undertiredness but that'll iron itself out as his A's extend a bit more :)
You even sound more relaxed in your writing!