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Title: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 16, 2013, 13:57:59 pm
Hi

Our routine has just gone!

He used to have an hour nap am and 2hr nap pm,but he started waking at 45!!! And now we're having early starts too! I'm not sure where to go with it!

Was trying to cap first nap to keep second but it's just not working, well it did for a bit-not now
With these early wakings I'm at a loss

When he wakes at 5:20 do I put him down 4 hours later?

Today he was up at 5-we were out and about and he fell asleep 10:15 for 40 mins so I put him back down at 2-thinking the first nap was shorter etc and he woke screaming at 45min again-is this UT? Or OT
Been doing 6:30 bedtime to compensate his EW and short naps but not sure what to try next?!

He's always been short with A times btw

Thank you for any tips!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: HenaV on April 17, 2013, 22:02:35 pm
Hi can you post your LO's routine as was before the 'troukblr' started?

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Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 06:19:04 am
Hi,

Before we was
Wake 6:30/7
10nap 1 hr
11:30 lunch
2 nap 1.5-2hrs
5 tea
6.20 bath etc
7 bed

Thank you, I'm guessing his A times need pushing-I'd like to keep BT as close to 7 as poss as his bother goes down then and it's easier on my own getting both down at same time!

Thank you
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 18, 2013, 08:15:18 am
How old is he?
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 09:49:43 am
55 wks
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 18, 2013, 09:53:49 am
I'd actually keep his morning nap at the same time but cut it shorter, maybe 30 mins, then do another nap maybe 3hrs after.
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 09:59:33 am
Today he woke at 6 :) and I put him down at 10-went out like a light, screaming after 45 again?? He did have one bright red swollen cheek-teething hasn't pushed him back to the 45min nap before-now not sure when to put him down again-2? 3.15 later as 45min isn't a restorative nap??
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 18, 2013, 10:03:01 am
I'd definitely give meds before pm nap, sounds like they're hurting him. If he slept 10-10.45 I'd probably put him down to be asleep by 2pm.
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 11:06:27 am
Great! Thank you, will med him up and get take him up at 10 to! He used to to do 2 good hours pm so we'll see! If he wakes after 45-would you say he's UT OT or just mixed up! Lol then would you do early BT? Thank you x
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 18, 2013, 11:07:42 am
I'd wait and see how the nap goes. If it's a short one then early bed for sure but hopefully he will do a good one for you.
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 14:12:39 pm
Woke bang on 45! Why! I have started giving him a dummy this week to help him extend naps-is he waiting for that? He doesn't have it to settle! I don't understand what's changed
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 18, 2013, 19:20:17 pm
Yikes, that's not good! Maybe he needed a little more A time? What's his temperament/personality? Does he generally handle OT well?
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 20:54:40 pm
He's super happy! Cried big time after 45 tho was a little unhappy then cheery again-6:30 BT-I just don't understand what's changed? Was happily doing 2-4pm after 3hrs a time not long ago! He's angel/textbook I guess-good as gold. At BT naps just rolls over and goes to sleep etc. so confused :/
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 18, 2013, 22:06:15 pm
Woken at 11pm screaming-v unusual-OT??
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 18, 2013, 22:07:12 pm
Yeh I expect so. You know there's a 2-1 support thread going at the top of this board? Have you tried a one nap day to see how it goes? FX you have a peaceful rest of the night.
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 19, 2013, 05:39:17 am
Woke at 5.45 peaceful otherwise, will go for 10 am 30 min nap and take see what happens x
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 19, 2013, 08:33:15 am
Good luck for today!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 19, 2013, 09:01:51 am
Thank you! Settling ok at 10! Will wake after 30 and see how we do!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 19, 2013, 13:59:21 pm
:) so put him down at 1:30 3hrs after 10am 30 nap-he's still asleep 1.5hrs in! :) should I wake at 2 hrs? Or leave him if we get that far! What an improvement! Can't believe how quickly he changed-like in two wks!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 19, 2013, 15:59:30 pm
I'd wake to preserve bedtime
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 19, 2013, 16:57:16 pm
He woke at 2hrs! :) thank you! Lets see what the night brings now!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 20, 2013, 05:27:21 am
Well after a great day-had worst night for a while. I did 7 BT as how woke at 3.30-should I still have done early BT? He woke at 3am and was on and off shouting till 5 when I gave him his dummy, he then woke at 6----is this still OT from dreadful week? Should I preserve with what we did yest so he can catch up etc? Was so thinking the night would be better :(
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 20, 2013, 06:00:43 am
Can you leave some dummies in his cot so he can find them in the middle of the night?
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 20, 2013, 06:11:35 am
Would you recommend that? He's never really had a dummy was just a last resort last night/this am! Not sure he'd find them-could try-I worry about him getting dependant on it??
Do you think it's still OT? 10 days ago he slept thru no probs :( could it be the walking too??
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 20, 2013, 08:17:54 am
Well if it works...

Yes it could definitely be the walking, AND teeth?? And the 2-1 transition. And Wonder Weeks? I don't imagine he was OT, he only had 3.5hrs A time after a really good nap. A long NW like that would be discomfort here, but at this age it's all a bit chaotic.
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 20, 2013, 08:22:47 am
Ok-thanks! I think as I'm so tired I can't make it make sense in my head! It's not like him to have such a long NW. Usually I can go in lay him down put mobile on and he goes back.... Am struggling getting him till 10, might be a 9:30 nap-45min then down at 1.30???? Gonna put 4 yr old down too as he's been up early all wk with baby and is v tired! Mummy nap too hopefully!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 21, 2013, 13:42:58 pm
Hi,
So we're doing a 30 am and going for a longer pm-last two days he's woken at the hr mark-which I don't feel is enough sleep-he's waking very upset-do you think it's pain? Or does his a time need to be longer-or shorter am nap? He resettles, when I go back and lay him down again-no dummy etc
Thank you x
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: anna* on April 21, 2013, 13:44:20 pm
For us, an hour at this stage is OT. Are you medicating for his teeth before his nap?
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 21, 2013, 14:29:47 pm
I haven't been, his cheeks aren't red, no dribble etc
OT-he was up 3 hrs after a 30 min nap, I think I'll keep with this maybe bring the 1:30 forward a bit? The line between OT and UT is like ten mins! Crazy!
Title: Re: Struggling with 2-1 transition/EW routine
Post by: Sarsheep on April 23, 2013, 07:19:53 am
Hi, so naps are much improved, 35 min am and 2 hrs pm, still having night issues-last night woke at 2:30 and 4-didn't cry just fussing moaning do I left him and he went back to sleep-awake at 5 am still :(

Any suggestions?? X