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EAT => Breast Feeding => Topic started by: *happy* on October 31, 2013, 02:20:01 am
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oh girls.i am just done. :-\
i am in so much pain,and im just SO tired.i dont have
the energy to fight this. :'( :'( :'(
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Big (((hugs)))
Ibuprofen, warm compresses for sure. Have you been to the doctor? Is there someone helping you? Stay in bed as much as you can, grit your teeth through the pain, and nurse -- it makes it go away even though it really hurts!!! (It's making me cringe just thinking of it and it's been years since I've had it!). Hang in there, I had it early on with two out of my three -- generally it does get better on a hurry...
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:'(
Cringing too just thinking about it :( Lots if hugs and feel better vibes. Take care of yourself, hun. Like Erin said ibuprofen and warm compresses. I had to take lots of hot baths and submerge the girls to clear the blockages I had. Get yourself to the doctor as soon as possible :-*
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Cringing here too. Ugh. Lots of clearing duct vibes.
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That is tiring and uncomfortable.
I am sure you've tried everything. But just incase, what worked for me was:
warming the breast with a wheatbag for 15 mins before the feed ( or warm, shower, not hot)
making sure the chin of the baby is over the blocked duct (even if that means asking for help holding the baby in different position.
And as the baby is latched on good an true, and is feeding, GENTLY press around and when you can, on the blocked part. Don't push hard, just press and hold, or press and move hand in direction of nipple. The pressure should not be more than what you use to put moisturiser on.
Make sure you see a proffessional so they can help so it doesn't become an abscess. Don't wait. It's important.
And ps. Sometimes expressing the last bits after baby is finished helps to keep the ducts clear. Just keep the power very low, and only a few minutes. You don't want to stimulate them to make more milk....
Good luck.
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was really hoping it would have cleared by this morning.
i dont feel as sick or shivery like i did yest,but still have
that bruise-like pain.how long did it take to go away
for you?did you all get antibiotics?
thank you all.
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No temp happy?
I only had full blown mastitis once with abx with Ozzie when I went back to work at 4 Mths and wasn't pumping enough
With Emma I had what u describe umpteen times but never bad enough for abx, temp to 37.5 only but all of what ladies have recommended helped me stave off full blown infection. It was always on my right side.
Can u get to see a breast feeding specialist or good midwife to check baby's latch etc?
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Hugs. Feeding really helps it clear. I did get a Abx both times I had it and they made me feel much better within a day of starting.
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Antibiotics had me feeling much much better within 24 hrs of starting
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Hugs happy! I never had it but I am scared of the thought of it xx hope you feel better soon
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Antibiotics all three times. Felt better within a day or two, then it took another day or two for the lumps (yes, I had multiple lumps :( ) to clear.
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They never gave me antibiotics because I never had a temp. Apparently that meant i didn't 'tick' all the boxes. After weeks of feeling exhausted and sore, doing all they said, i ended up with an abscess. It was with first child, i was uncertain and full of mean hormones. I followed advice, except i tried to 'push' the milk out hard under the shower, only made it worse, bruising and spreading the issue. So please please be gentle with your breasts, i suggest expressing after your morning feed, seems to be when baby drinks the most and then sleeps the longest, giving yourself time. Later in the day is tough as feeds closer together and busy with life, dinner, baths etc.....
This is only my experience. You know your body and babe best. Always ask expert help for other options if what you're doing isn't working. And rest when you can, your body is busy!
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You can do this happy. You've got lots of good advice already.
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Sorry I've not got any advice for you. Never BTDT, But i did just want offer hugs and say to "mind self".... That's very important.
Hope you're feeling improved soon.
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When I had a plugged duct, I worked at it like it was my freaking job! I nursed that baby as often has he would, inbetween, I showered, held a warm compress on it and massaged it until I had hand cramps, and it didn't budge. I read taking lecithin could help, and within 24 hours, the pain had subsided, swelling went down and the plug began to break down. If you haven't tried lecithin yet, go snag yourself some. It was a life saver for me!!
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thanks ladies.im totally out of it.temp of40.
i will have abx aftr6pm.cant see straigit at the mo.
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Oh no :( Lots of healing vibes sent your way. Get as much rest as you can.
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Oh no hun get well soon! Xx
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Healing vibes hun
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Boo. The antibiotics should hopefully help really soon. It really is horrible :( *hug*
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Tell me it's worth it.that im doing the right thing.
My gp reckon it " just for bonding" at this stage.
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Tell your gp to take a running jump. What an *&^!! The very worst thing you could do now is slow down on feeding.
Ibuprofen all the way, and feeding. Hope the abx help. I had recurrent mastitis, it's an absolute killer, rest + ibuprofen + feeding is what kicked it in the end. BUT I fed my boy for 17 months and have done the same for my girl. It is so worth it.
Hugest hugs. (very gentle ones)
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Was your GP saying that in relation to BF.!?! Wow!!!!
Yes, it is worth it so much - both for you and for your LO.
Hang in there Happy. Hopefully the antibiotics will klick in soon enough for you and you'll be out the other side of it before you know it.
Get all the help you can get from family, etc now so that you can rest and allow your body to heal. Your body is still "running low" after giving birth, so give it a chance to heal now and you'll hopefully be back to a fab BF relationship again with all the lovely snuggles that go along with it.
(((((Hugs)))))
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Tell your gp to take a running jump. What an *&^!! The very worst thing you could do now is slow down on feeding.
Totally agree! ((((Hugs)))) hope the meds kick in soon and give you relief.
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Your GP is a twit. Silly fool. Of course it's for more than bonding! Good job no one told people 200 years ago that or the human race would've died out.
You're giving your LO (and yourself!) so many potential health benefits by BF that you just wouldn't be getting if you were FF. You'll come out the end of this sooon
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You can do it hun!!! Feel better!
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:)
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I hope that means you're feeling a bit better xxx.
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Your dr sounds mad! Here is some info on all the reasons why BFing is more than just bonding Reasons to be proud!
I agree feeding is the best way to clear the blockage so feed, feed feed. I hope it gets better soon.
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Hope you are feeling better hun. Virtual kick up the butt for that GP! I however am not really that :o as I've found quite a lot of bizarre ideas about BFing from GPs especially and I hate to say it, male ones.
Hope little baby is helping you out by feeding lots and in different positions. I've heard dangling over baby on all fours ::) is meant to be really good. I couldn't manage to get G to do this when I tried though.
Lots of love and big power to the boobs :-*
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Hugs hun, hope you're starting to feel a bit better xx
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Hope that smile means what we think it means!
I also had a male GP tell me to stop feeding when I had mastitis. I told him he was wrong. He was not impressed...
xxx
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i do feel less shivery,but im still v clammy+sweaty.
there is also a v clear red swollen area stretching around
the outer part of my breast.is it usual for it to get worse
before it gets better?
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Antibiotics usually seem to kick in quite quickly but I guess any infection will spread until it starts improving IYSWIM?
Can you usually take ibuprofen? If you're not already, get some down you. It'll help the inflammation. You can use cold compresses after feeds too if that helps and get some warm on before the next one.
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How many doses have you had so far? Hopefully it starts to do the trick soon.
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i've taken 24hrs worth-3doses.
i havent taken ibuprofen before.maybe i should get some
bought tomorrow.
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Yes I would get some for sure!
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Hopefully you'll start feeling better tomorrow. I think it took me a day's worth to start feeling better and yes, as long as you're not contraindicated for ibuprofen (asthmatic etc), get some going in as it will take down the swelling, help with the temperature and ease some of the discomfort.
Hugs for tonight. Hope your LO can help get this shifted for you ASAP. :-*
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i will.feeding doesnt seem to be easing the area.
it's the size of a tennis ball.really hoping for a
miracle-recovery.im sick of it.
thanks ladies. :-*
im in the midst of my v own pity-party here. :'(
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Oh ouch...many gentle hugs...hope the abx kick in soon!
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Ouch. I had to pump to get mine to clear. Even with the hospital grade pump I rented it took a few days on abx for them to loosen up. Just keep feeding, they will clear, hopefully sooner if you can get the swelling down. I remember dd1 was able to clear one blockage the first time I had it, and it felt sooooo good, just be patient :-*
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thanks hun.im just so afraid i'll end up in
hospital.she just doesnt seem to be helping,&when
i pumped after feeding this ev,i got next to
nothing..?
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Hmmm I normally cannot pump worth a darn...is that unusual for you though?
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yes!even when i think she has drained it,there's
always more when i pump!
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How are you now?
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when i pumped after feeding this ev,i got next to
nothing..?
This is what happened to me because I had so many blocked ducts, it ALL got trapped in there. I think with dd2 it took 2-3 days on abx for the blockages to start to clear, so be patient it will clear. Has your temp gone down? If you take the lump out of the mix, are you feeling better? I could be patient with the lumps because I was feeling better so I knew the antibiotics were working.
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Warm compresses prior to feeding/pumping and massage the lumps while you feed/pump. Have you got good IRL support anywhere -- a LC, hospital feeding group, LLL, anything?
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Totally agree, massage them lumps out if at all possible while feeding or pumping.
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my LC is superwoman!but she is away on hols at the mo.
i do feel so much more human today,if im ignoring the
sore boob.ive tried to massage,but the lump is more like
a large half-melon,rather than a grape or two,kwim?
so i cant really feel a lump to massage out,the way i have
done before at other times,if that makes sense.
im also v unsure how much milk DD is getting from
that side.i wish boobs were see-through sometimes!
i have great family support,so im doing lots of resting btw.
thank you all so much for holding my hand through this
latest drama.xox
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Happy please take ibuprofen/nurofen max strength every 8hrs around the clock and d warm compress on the area before EVERY singe feed and cold as you can after. This will help the mass go down in size. It may very well be lots of little ducts blocked.
Ugh...I remember it too well.
When u back at docs/Phn for check up?
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What shivi said ^^^
If it's still really lumpy, I would consider getting myself back to the Dr just in case. I never had lumps with mastitis, so can't give any BTDT, but I'm sure something the size you're describing isn't good :-\
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Hugs hun. The lump sounds a lot like what I had. I discovered it was caused by lots of blocked ducts closer to the nipple rather than around where the lump actually was. Massage between where the lump was and the nipple helped more than actually massaging immediately around the lump.
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shivi-it says on the pack i cant take nurofen while BFing?
i'm doing the hot before a feed.
how long should i keep the cold on after a feed?
i'll try that tink.i'll be an expert by the time this is gone!
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Just seen this - so sad to hear you're feeling rubbish. Fx and vibes for everything sorting itself out soon.
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Ibuprofen in all its forms is ABSOLUTely safe while being as long as you don't go over the max dose in 24 hrs. You and your breast need it now. Don't worry. I took even stronger than nurofen, it's super strength cousin ketoprofen while bf ing and all was well xxx
When u going back to doctor?
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If you have those gel packs then as long as you can stand them....I used to use ice packs hot and cold in a muslin so I'd just pop them into my bra after a feed and keep them there.
I had huge issues on one side, particularly with Emma. Had to keep a special eye on that side. Never got to full blown mastitis again after first episode though as I knew what to do in advance....hot before, cold after, ibuprofen every 8 hrs and rest as well as feeding as much and n as many different positions as possible xxx
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Have you got straight ibuprofen/nurofen or the plus stuff? The plus has caffeine and whatnot in it, so probably not best when BF, but like shivi said, straight ibuprofen is ok (they have to put cautions on the packaging just in case, but all the safe medication lists for BF state ibuprofen is ok). http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/f?./temp/~vD7Uba:1 :-*
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I was put on either ibuprofen or naproxen all 3 times after giving birth and while bf with no issues.
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Codeine no. Nurofen express max strength yes. Nurofen plus no....you can take the express max 1 tab every 8 hrs or 1200 in 24 or the normal stuff 2tabs every 8 hrs also 1200 in 24. Pls take it for three full days xxx
What abx dud they give u?
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i havent seen a doc at all.got prescription faxed to
the pharmacy.tbh,my gp is super-anti-BFing at the
best of times,so i dont really have a great relationship with
her,BFing-wise.
i can phone my PHN on mon.at that point,i should have taken
enough antx for her not to fob me off,right?
arg!just checked BB date on nurofen-they expired 2years
ago!i seriously need to clean out my medicine press!
ps shivi-hope i didnt sound ungrateful or like i was doubting
you!i know you know what you're talking about!xxx.
just that maybe the ingredients might be different
across the pond?!
sorry-just posted.
clavamel antibx for 10days.
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just reading all that info again.
ladies-and this is by no means the first time i have
thought this-ye should be paid in real gold for helping
us mammas with our liquid gold.
"thank you" just never seems enough to say.
giving you all a massive squeezey hug(on my left side!)
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If only ;)
Our main concern is that you're ok, though :-*
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No worries happy, the same is written on the box of nurofen in PL!
Promise you'll send your DH out for a box of 24 express max tomorrow and you'll take 3 a day for 3 days with the others left aside for anytime you feel a little tingle, lumpy bit coming on?
Anyway, I was kicked out of the chemist with a whopping coldsore and a NB Oscar in the pram when I asked for Zovirax so I can imagine what they think of nurofen! But it's totally safe, promise xxx
Just look after yourself, your body is very, very low right now and you need to heal it xxx
In terms of your half-melon, is it very hard or does it move a bit like jelly? Sorry for tmi but am worrie about you x
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it stays put. :-\ is that good or bad?!
but the inner half is soft+squishy,so my actual breast moves,
iykwim?but it hurts when it does.also,it's more comfortable
for me to lie on my R,rather than on my L which kind
of surprised me.
i have my aunt coming out to help in the morning,so she
is bringing me 2tablets she has left!pharmacy wont be
open till mid-day,so at least that way i can get started
early&DH can go&stock up later!
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Is it ver red on the outside, on the skin? With kind of lines of red streaks going up and down?
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i *think* the lines are stretchmarks from the
*horrific* engorgement i had with DD1! ::)
it's red though,ya.tennis ball shaped starting where
breast-meets-upper armpit,if that makes sense.
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Ok, how many full days have to been on the abx?
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1 full day,plus 1 tablet. i take 3 a day.
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You should see results after the end of six tabs. Two full days on any augmentin equivalent should do the trick.
Hope u have that ibuprom in you now xxx
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And amoxyclav, clavamox etc are the same as augmentin.
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Great you are already getting so much great advice so I will just offer more hugs and get well vibes.
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got a nurofen max strength into me at 10am!
against a pharmacist's advice but i trust ye more
than him tbh!
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Hope you feel better soon :-*
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(((Hugs))) hope the meds are doing the trick by now!
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YAY!I HAVE A SQUISHY BOOB AGAIN!
sorry for shouting!just so happy!
ok,well,not totally squishy,but we're getting there!
BWer-knowledge 1...mastitis nil!
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Good stuff! Hopefully, the improvement will continue, at pace, now for you.
Sometimes, you just have to take the meds. I'd be like you - tablets used so infrequently, they go out of date & I wouldn't even know which I should/ need to take ;D.
Glad you're feeling better and vibes for you to feel even-better again really soon. ((((Hugs)))))
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Hurrah for squishy boobs!!!
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Hooray for squishy boob and fr meds doing their thing xxx
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YAY!
;D
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Great things have improved!
Another one who took Ibuprofen when BFing. I was told to by a pharmacist, but this one was a bfing specialist who worked for the BFing Network. Just another bit of info in case anyone else tells you not to, it is absolutely the best stuff for mastitis.
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Woohoo!!!
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Excellent! :)
BWers are the BEST. :)
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Yay! Keep up those drugs now, though and all the other stuff and get that nasty infection packed up and gone ASAP.
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So happy for you happy ;)
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thank goodness!the improvement has continued!yay!
almost back to normal now!
thank you thank you THANK YOU so much!
giving you all a great big bear hug...with my R side! :)
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So glad you're feeling better hun xx
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Yay :)
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I think I have mastitis too :( Going in to the doc later today
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Good luck :)
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I had it twice with DS1 and the same symptoms are here. Bright red streak on my right breast, fatigue and a lumpy boob. No fever yet, but I know it's coming. This sucks!
Happy- How you doing now?
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i am nicely drugged up right now!!!
i can finally start to feel lumps instead of a giant rock,
so it's clearing,but i dont think im out of the woods
yet.
today is the 1st day i havent sweated or shivered.
i just cant get over how fast i got so sick.it scares me.
how did you get on with doc
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Yeah, it hits so quickly! One minute I was fine, next I was shaking uncontrollably :(
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I hear you on that, happy. I was ok and then I was feverish and throwing up :-\
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that's what scares me.for DD1's sake more than
anything,i dont want it back again&to be out of
action.but it all happened so fast,how do i prevent it,kwim!
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Mastitis/Plugged Ducts
Scroll down a wee bit and there are prevention & self help tips :-*
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:-*
thaks hun
i really need to start using a different
position.old habits die hard.i NEVER
changed positions with DD1!
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ok.i may have celebrated too soon.i have a lumpy breast
again.my supply seems to be all over the place-v v full
on both sides,making everything lumpy.no fever etc,just
lumps+bumps.i feel as though i need to re-establish the
supply+demand,kwim?
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have you been using the nurofen every 8 hrs?
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yup!except for last n when DD2 slept for5hrs so it was 11
hrs.i am due my last nurofen this morn.3days will be up then.x
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I had lumps when overfull, esp on one side. I thought it was just one of those things?
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lots of warm compresses then as cold as you can stand afterwards and keep up the nurofen another 24 hrs at least I would say....have you any chance of buying these:
http://www.oscardehn.com/ShowDetails.asp?id=330
I bought them in mothercare in Ireland many moons ago xxx
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Thinking of you, happy.
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my L side is getting lumpy at times when i need to feed...i would have had that last time with DD1....it eased as soon as i fed back then...i never worried about it but i'm paranoid now!
yes....i think i'll keep up the nurofen....i've been using these as hot/cold compresses....it sounds like the same as your ones?
http://www.earthmamaangelbaby.com/breastfeeding-support/booby-tubes.html
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How about feeding a touch earlier? Is that a daft suggestion (Shiv will know)?
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feeding sooner than the 3 hours you mean?as it is, i often have to wake DD for the feed!
(i don't wake at night though)
i think i was feeding all over the place (ie not doing one-sided feeding) so my boobs don[t know what's going ok, kwim?!!
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I think its still normal at this stage (4 weeks) to feel lumpy all over the boob before needing to feed. Mine would get hard like rocks but I only got to the worried stage when I'd feel a bit fluey, achy, with a red streak or redness in one area.
I would do as many hot before and cold after for the next while, whenever you're at home and that should help regulate things a little. Looks like your boobs are in panic mode, overdrive a bit perhaps. Still very normal at this stage of the game.
S x
ps your booby tubes look cool. What's inside them?
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ok...that's good to know....
i'm just so sad i[m not getting to enjoy this time with DD2....and that i'm being prevented from being a proper mammy to DD1.... :(
terrified of it all coming back again...
the booby tubes aren't great at holding the cold tbh, so i've ordered those other ones (or something similar) from boots...
they are great at keeping the heat though....
they are a cotton shell, filled with all natural flax seeds...according to the box!!!
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Have you been back to see the LC? I just wonder whether some of it could be position and attachment related, maybe?
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no,she is still away.that is the side i had trouble with
to begin with,so i'm being extra careful with latch.
i meant to try a different position today,but it went
totally out of my head.
both breasts feel alot better tonight compared to last
night though.phew!
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Glad you're feeling better! You may just have to be more careful with the latch this time -- esp at night when you're tired and just wanting to go back to bed! For whatever reason, ds needed to be reminded of the proper latch much more frequently than the girls! I felt like I was forever getting lumpy with him.
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men,eh?!
am totally exhausted.she has wanted to feed
every 90mins for the past12hrs,but then will
fall aslp after3-4mins of sucking.growth spurt?
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Could be. Or your supply is a bit low cos you're unwell?
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Maybe LO is just trying to rebalance your supply
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supply def not low!!!
im spraying everywhere if she unlatches!
also had loads when i pumped after the morning feed!
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Maybe OS/OALD, she's not dealing with the flow and its tiring her out too much?
Lots of frozen booby tubes on your boobs after each feed should help regulate...
Try and stop the pumping for a bit....will also help regulate. You can always go back to it later x
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Is there a reason you're pumping? If it's for comfort, you could always hand express a little until you feel comfortable.
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sorry,had DD1 pouncing every time i tried to reply!
im pumping to have a stash frozen,but also to drain that
R breast.i dont need to then?
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Do you feel like she's getting enough from that breast when she's feeding from it? If so, the pumping will be signalling your body to make more milk because it thinks it isn't making enough. Stopping the pumping for a while will help it to realise you're not starving your baby :)
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true!when will my brain kick in again?!
i could pump a little from the other side so if need be.
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Just bear in mind that all that you pump is what your body thinks it needs to make for your LO, so if you miss pumping at some stage, you may well find you're engorged, which might not help with the lumps.
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catch 22,eh?
really need her to feed now but she's fallen asleep.ugh.
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Hey Happy, I really think the pumping might not be doing you any favours right now. I'm sure Amanda and Shiv can offer better advice but I'm pretty convinced that my commitment to pumping for LO1 was part of my problem with mastitis (didn't do it for LO2 and, hey, not mastitis). I'm not saying that no one should ever pump, at all. It's a really useful tool in the mothering toolkit. Just maybe to lay off for now, til things stabilise a bit. Like I say, our resident experts will probably have a better idea, just a feeling of mine.
Hugs.
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ya,i think i will.im not in a panic to get a stash built up
just yet,&it sure would be nice to have 1 less thing to
get done in the mornings!
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Oh I hear you, one of the reasons I didn't get started with LO2 was I couldn't figure out when on earth I could do it!!
Hope you're feeling tons better, my dear.
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i am!but im afraid to admit it!
no obvious lumps or bumps,so hoping i can keep it that way!
i do have a weird pain under my armpit,beside my
breast though.hoping that will go away too.
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Might be out on a limb, but are your bras properly fitted? That can contribute to blockages and discomfort
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The pain in your armpit could be another blocked duct :( But you also have lymphnodes in your armpits, so it could be sore from trying to deal with the infection. Is there a lump where it is sore?
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i've been going bra-less for the last week on my
sister's advice. ???
under my arm isnt sore right now,but i'll pay proper
attention later. :-\
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If they fit well I'd get one back on. The girls tend to require the additional support during BF.
Did you get properly measured and fitted?
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no...red face
im wearing a stretchy one though,same as with DD1.
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Obviously I have no idea how big you are but it might be worth considering getting measured up properly to make sure you're gettinggood support qand there's nothing digging in or pinching anywhere as that can contribute to blockages.
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true!now if i could just get to somewhere that would
measure...i guess i should make it a priority though!
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Definitely - consider this a kick up the butt to arrange it! Yes, it may mean getting someone to help - but it would be less work for them than helping if you are ill again.
Look after yourself happy!
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Happy, are you anywhere near a SHAWS ? I found them better than Debenhams for fitting for nursing bra...their selection was crap (only choice from 2 - although, luckily, they are among the couple of nursing bras I happen to like BRAVADA, I think). However, Debenhams "fitted" me & i threw out those bras as they were less-than-useless.
Definitely try to make it a priority....
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Do you have anything like the NCT (National Childbirth Trust) in Ireland? They offer bra fitting service sometimes.
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not sure amanda-must have a google.
shaws is 40mins away,so i could get there,ya!
im wearing the bravada ones.did you mean that you
found those 1s good or bad?
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I like the BRAVADA ones that have an inbuilt non-wire "wire"....if that makes any sense????
These ones
http://change-diapers.com/2012/04/bravado-bliss-soft-cup-nursing-bra-review/
I use the sports-bra/ vest type BRAVADA ones for sleeping in.
These ones
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=bravado+nursing+bra&source=images&cd=&docid=Uqp-Uyh0tdOwXM&tbnid=U8wme6lWmkRHpM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fbhp%2Fbravado-nursing-bra-l&ei=CgqAUqeaB4eChQfn5YDYDQ&psig=AFQjCNFVPNH4U-iZJgD_kh1vdINkhZIOiA&ust=1384209160388860
I hope those links work ok....will check once post goes up.
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Yip, links are ok. Just did a google images search for them so you'd get an idea, so don't take any notice of the websites they are actually linked to.
I now buy off figleaves or fromheretomaternity.co.uk or nursingbras.co.uk
I like the ANITA ones - but get yourself measured up first and go from there.
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I have four bravado nursing bras....two for sleep and two of the nicer ones for daytime...but lately all I wear are nursing tanks from target. Really need to spring fo nicer ones like bravado has as I love that the tank covers my tummy but the ones I have are just a shelf bra! I measured myself and called bravado directly for sizing help and ordered online and had no issues.
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thanks for that girls.x
im up and pumping.have pain&lumps again&DD didnt
drain breast,so trying desperately to avoid a full-blown
repeat of last week.feeling much better as i pump,so
hopefully,i'll be ok.
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How's it going now sweetie? With ds, I found I was always having to be more vigilant with either of the girls, I was always getting lumps and I couldn't ever figure out why. I had mastitis once when he was a few months old, but not again after that and he nursed until 16 months. But, there was a lot of massaging out lumps as he nursed, in the shower, or when I pumped.
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thanks for checking in. :-*
im so lumpy. :-\
i feel like im caught in a vicious circle of having to pump to
relieve the lumps,then creating more milk,meaning i have
to pump again etc etc :-\
i have just fed from the L,but im going to have to pump
from the R now :-\
getting v disheartened. :-\ :-\
but DD is doing great through it all-she put on 2 lbs in 2.5wks.
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I've read that lecithin helps with getting repeated clogged ducts....would that be helpful at all in this situation?
Sorry, have no BTDT experience.
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really?i'll look into it...i just feel like i cant clear the R side....DD will clear the L side alright, but the R just never feels right.
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I had exactly the same and also on the R side, happy.
It always helped me to get DD on the R side during her sleepier feeds first and massage, massage, massage.
It was only after she weaned and during an ultrasound for lumps that never went away that I found out my milk ducts on the R side are very twisted and contorted compared to left so DD being a very impatient little soul was not patient enough to wait for the letdown from the twisted ducts (DS was similar but much, much older when it happened) and so fed less from this side or less happily anyway. I would usually start with R side for first morning feeds if I got to her when she was only fussing a tiny bit, same for middle of night feeds and DFs and for the more ravenous and awake feeds I would trick her by starting in trad position on the left and then moving her when I got the letdown going (thro massage) on the right and moving her there in a football hold in one foul swoop IYKWIM?
Of course, with such a great weight gain, you may be better off teaching your right side to produce less and less - best way for this is through ice packs after a feed and pumping only when necessary from this side. I fed mainly from the left side for the last 4-6 months of feeding both of mine - was a little lopsided but at 1yr plus I couldn't trick them into feeding from the R side anymore...
S x
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i am actually wondering if part of our problem-
including Dd's screaming sessions-is that i have too
much milk coming too fast for her?is it called OALD?
was thinking of starting a seperate thread on it.
it just shoots out! there just seems to be SO much!
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There's a great faq on it with lots of tips.
You can always hand express.until you feel more comfortable instead of pumping.
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Oversupply and Overactive (Forceful) Let-Down
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yes,thanks girls.i think this is def an issue for us.
wow.how i would just love a night off...
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can i run something by ye?i just want to make sure i am on the right track to keep this mastitis at bay....
i def have LOTS of milk....so in order to attempt to keep things under control, i will only pump from my R side if i am very lumpy/uncomfortable, right?
i will also put an ice-pack on the R side after each feed. should i still put the heat on it before a feed?
if DD doesn't drain the R side during 1 feed, do i pump to drain it?or do i wait & put her back on the R for the next feed?
ugh....bottles would be so much easier!!!(i know, they come with their own problems, but boy, sometimes i wish i had never BF DD1, then i wouldn't feel under pressure to BF DD2...kwim?....and no....i don't *really* wish that....i guess i just wish that you could get the benefits of breastmilk through a carton!!!)
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can i run something by ye?i just want to make sure i am on the right track to keep this mastitis at bay....
i def have LOTS of milk....so in order to attempt to keep things under control, i will only pump from my R side if i am very lumpy/uncomfortable, right?
Yes, don't pump if you're not feeling off....better to keep the milk supply down
i will also put an ice-pack on the R side after each feed. should i still put the heat on it before a feed?
Heat before and cold after gives feedback to the breasts to open milk ducts fully to allow free flow (hot) and then to close and stop production (cold) so by all means, yes.
if DD doesn't drain the R side during 1 feed, do i pump to drain it?or do i wait & put her back on the R for the next feed?
there is really no such thing as draining the breast...so don't pump to drain it, no. If you still feel full even after a full feed, the cold compresses should help.
How are you feeding? One-side each feed or two?
ugh....bottles would be so much easier!!!(i know, they come with their own problems, but boy, sometimes i wish i had never BF DD1, then i wouldn't feel under pressure to BF DD2...kwim?....and no....i don't *really* wish that....i guess i just wish that you could get the benefits of breastmilk through a carton!!!)
I totally know what you mean.
S x
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thanks hun.
i always did just 1 side per feed,even with DD1.
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I get what you mean too! Hugs!
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Totally. It'll settle down, fx. Xxx
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You'll get there, happy. :-*
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Oh and yes, lecithin granules really do help. Thats what I take.
1Tbsp mixed in a bit of juice every day.
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just wanted to post some good news for a change!!!!
both boobs are behaving themselves...for the past 2 days!!!yay!!!!
i think we have beaten this thing!!!!
BW 1..mastitis nil!!!!
thanks so much to all you wonderful ladies who held my hands & pointed me in the right direction ...
ye are more knowledgable than anyone i've met IRL....love & hugs to you all.xxx
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Great update Happy! Glad it is all better!
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So glad for you hun x
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Yay!
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;D
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super news x
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Brilliant :D
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;D :-*
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Yay!
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and so it's back.
i have mastitis again.
in so much pain,&just so bummed out.
could i have some of those wonderful BW healing vibes,if
there are any going spare?x
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Oh no. Can you get yourself to the dr before it takes hold any more?
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i'm back on 10 days on antibiotics....taking nurofen...hot & cold compresses....i'm (unfortunately!) an expert on it now....
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Oh no hun! Vibes it clears soon xx
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Huge hugs hun xxx
vibes galore xxx
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Ugh, that's so unfair for you.
Feel better really soon and mind self.
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it's weird....i'm in waaaay more pain this time around, but i have less of a fever...does that make sense?
my breast is so much redder, & full of streaks...i don't even know if DD got anything from that breast at that last feed....she was sucking & sucking very fast for ages....i eventually had to swap to the other side cause she was getting so cross & upset.
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Tons of hugs lovely, BTDT, I'll PM you the (gory) details. xxx
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Hugs and vibes!
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Healing vibes to you, my dear!
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thank you.i feel rotten.
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Hang in there. You've had it since yesterday? So you should start feeling better tomorrow, hopefully. Thinking of you. You must be wrecked, physically and everything else, mastitis is such a cruel thing. :*
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Lots of hugs and healing vibes :-*
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Boo :( Hugs for you x
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((hugs)) and healing vibes!
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well,i'm fairly sure i'm totally dehydrated after a night
spent sweating buckets.still totally red&inflamed this
morning,but the streaks are gone-does anyone know
if that's a good or bad thing?
also,im getting way less than before when i pump,from
both sides.is that normal with mastitis or could it be the
antibiotics interfering?
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dehydration can be the main culprit for lack of yield when pumping.
Vanishing streaks is a good sign - a sign that the worst of the inflammation is going down.
Please get your feet up if at all possible and drink 2 L of water today, a glass every time you sit down to feed xxx
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Hope you feel lots better today, lovey, and, yes, treat it like the flu, get off your feet whenever possible. xxx
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thanks girls.drinking as i type.x
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You've got some good advice. :)
I think I mentioned it the last time, but for whatever reason with ds I had to be so much more vigilant about latch, positioning, etc as I seemed much more prone to blockages - I still have no idea why it was different with him, but I found myself getting sore so much more often and I always felt like I was massaging lumps out during feeds, in the shower, etc -- just something to keep in mind, maybe you'll just need to be extra mindful of it (something else to do ::) )
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yes,you're absolutely right.i am KICKING myself i
didnt catch it in time,but in another way,i didn't get
the pain-warning i did last time.i literally just got out
of bed thurs morning&couldn't stop shaking.
feeling better this morning,but extra-tired because
DD1 threw up again during the night...off to seek advice
on that now...
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Poor girl! Hope she's feeling better (and you too)!