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EAT => Breast Feeding => Topic started by: Jennyjn on July 31, 2006, 02:19:09 am
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I saw this on another site and wasn't sure if anyone here has seen this. It just made me sad that people found this gross. I know everyone has different opinions but it just makes me sad! I think it's a beautiful picture, but thats just me.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/many-outraged-by-breast-feeding-magazine/20060727182509990006
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This really annoys me >:(
A breast is a breast - it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."
Urm no, boobies are for feeding our babies otherwise they wouldn't fill with milk whilst we're bl**dy pregnant >:(
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I too, think it's a beautiful picture. I'm shocked at the response from some people! It's a baby/parent mag for goodness sakes!
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well, I don't want to offend anyone, but I think it's just an "American" thing.
"yet another sign that Americans are squeamish over the sight of a nursing breast". "squeamish" lol! not said strong enough!
I don't think here in Europe anyone would object to this cover. it's just a photo of a nursing baby and not of a breast anyway...
Monika
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A lovely picture of a beautiful baby. I do think however that the article was looking to make a point and it wouldn't have been much of a story if they'd quoted all the people who just thought it was sweet and put in their magazine rack (which I'm sure many did).
Sadly, I'm not sure the view is just an American thing as certainly many mothers in the UK still feel awkward about nursing in public. However I bet if you stopped 1000 people and asked them more would think it 'lovely' than 'gross' but maybe that's my bias!
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craziness!
to me this indicates that we just have to keep nursing (RESPECTFULLY) wherever we need to! boobs are for babies first and foremost and sexual objects secondary to that! isn't it time that we get to decide what to do with our bodies and for our babies rather than have a group of men try to impose on us what is right for them?
btw, wasn't it important to keep ankles covered up at one time? just goes to show that change is possible!
(okay, i KNOW i am stirring quite a lot but this is an issue i feel pretty strongly about!)
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Oh how pathetic can some people be! ::) >:(
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That's one of the cutest pics I've ever seen (excluding my own kids, of course!)
And Jacob squealed when he saw the baby, so he thinks it's cute too!
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Can you believe in 2006 that people are still reacting this way to God's perfect food???? >:( >:(
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I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one. The other forum I saw it on has nothing to do with babies and those ladies have very strong opinions and I was happy to see they didn't think it was gross.
What makes me upset is that everyone chooses different things. If you choose not to breastfeed thats your choice. I don't have a problem with that. But as a parent you should be able to explain, to some degree, to your child what breastfeeding is. JMO
With my second child I wanted pictures of me feeding her. To me it was a beautiful thing! I'm proud of the pictures.
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Know what quote I found the worst? Was the one from teh mother of a 4 month old that was repulsed :o
These women need to give their heads a shake..I too agree that is your personal choice and I condem no one for making that choice. But boobs were not put on this earth for men (although my dh might disagree LOL)......
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i get that magazine (i think they think i'm eternally pg) and i didn't even notice there was a breast on the cover until i read the story!! :D
what i don't understand is what about it makes other moms who have nursed uncomfortable. the breast is basically covered while the baby is eating. you see a whole lot more on victoria secret models, and i bet they aren't complaining about that.
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It is so sad, I understand that some people are uncomfortable it, but to be "repulsed" or to call it "gross" is just sad :'(
I saw a tshirt for sale somewhere that said something like
"If my breastfeeding in public makes you uncomfortable please feel free to put a blanket over your head!"
;D
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I think its great, but I do see why some would be offended. Its a matter of perspective. I mean to me its just a breastfeeding baby, but some people just look at it wrong. I mean I don't know many 13 year old boys who will be drooling over it, but I know parents who would feel its "inapropriate" In Canada it probably wont be a big deal. We're pretty open here, but in places like the US (no offence) people tend to be a little narrow minded about it. The term, "feed your child in the bath room" comes to mind from a Dr.Phil show.
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Hate to disagree with you on that one, but Canada is no different from the US. I'm in Toronto and my mom friends and I have this discussion sometimes, we're no more open or accepting than the US.
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Well..we teach by example. My DD already states she can't wait to be a mommy and feed her baby with boobies! Every baby that is nursed is slowly expanding awareness/education.
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Conversation between me and dh:
Me: Honey, let me show you something....(brings up website with b/f photo)....are you offended by this?
DH: By what?
Me: By this. This picture.
DH: What picture?
Me: THIS PICTURE! (pointing)
DH: Oh, that. No. I thought you meant this one (points to Botox ad) ?? ??
Final conclusion - as per DH "These people really need to get a life."
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Good grief, unless you know about nursing you can't even tell it's a BREAST!!!! No nipple, no aureole, even the baby's LIPS aren't visible! I can't imagine a 4-year-old being shocked by it, or for that matter most teens unless they looked long enough to figure out what it was. ::)
And an adult that's offended by it, well, I agree with Duckie's DH - they need to get a life!!!! Oy. ::)
Feeling opinionated today, I guess..... ;D
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i'm sickened by the negative response! It's such a beautiful picture.
i guess it's okay to continue having porn mags on top shelves, music videos with gyrating bikini clad girls on MTV - very very sad ::)
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my DH's response to this article was that anyone feeling the picture can be "erotic/sexual" in any sense must be a paedophile...
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Hate to disagree with you on that one, but Canada is no different from the US. I'm in Toronto and my mom friends and I have this discussion sometimes, we're no more open or accepting than the US.
Oh I didn't relize that, here we see it every where. Its no big deal and its just there. Sorry I thought it was like that everywhere in Canada. Guess I was wrong.
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I think the picture is a good one, but I do think they didn't have to put it on the cover. Ok...don't get mad, let me explain... ;D ;D ;D
I breastfeed my babies. I do it wherever and whenever they need to. Church, grocery store, during a wedding in the mall, whatever. But, I do it discreetly. I don't need to show that much breast when I nurse and I don't think women should. I'm not going to hide that I'm nursing, I'll do it in front of everyone and anyone, but I'm gonna be sure my breast is covered.
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I just got that mag in the mail today. I looked at in and just smiled. Breastfeeding one of the most precious acts that we as mothers experience. To think that people would ever denounce a mere photo of a chilld breastfeeding is inconceivable to me. I am amazed that there are so many that are truly ignorant that breastfeeding is as beautiful and natural as it is.
It is, you know, a pregnancy/baby magazine. Would you expect anything different? I see NOTHING wrong with it, but instead praise it. There should be more awareness such as this in mainstream publications.
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hmmm....okay...well here is my two cents worth. ::) First, I read everyone's response BEFORE I looked at the picture and read the article. I wanted to see what everyone else's opinion was. So I have now looked at the picture.....and to be 100% honest with you....even though I knew what it was....that was NOT the first thing that came to my mind. To me there is no way you could 100% tell that is a breast. My first reaction was "oh, look that baby is kissing the belly of a pregnant lady." Honest. Had the words not been on the cover of the magazine, I don't think I would have ever known the difference. Not sure if that makes me really really closed minded or really really open minded. But either way I am an American. ;D I did not breastfeed. That was my CHOICE as a woman. I am not going to begrudge another woman the right to provide for her child as SHE sees fit(as long as it is not illegal). I think that the article was slanted to a more negative aspect, and it is those kind of articles that fuel the *ugliness* of breastfeeding. And why do celebrities have to make something fashionable? Women have had boobs since the dawn of time....but we have to qualify it as "cool" AFTER a celebrity is seen doing it?? I mean, I guess some men would be all for breastfeeding and as comfortable as a bug in a rug if Angelina Jolie was sitting on the park bench next to them feeding her baby, but would probably run to the nearest bush and throw up if a "park mom" were to do the same thing.
Oh....another reason I didn't think of boob first.....mine never looked like that!!!!! ;) ;) ;)
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Oh....another reason I didn't think of boob first.....mine never looked like that!!!!! ;) ;) ;)
OK, my DH just saw it and his reaction was, "Lucky tyke!" ;D ;D ;D ;D Mine never EVER looked like that either!!!!!
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Yeh - wish my boob looked like that! It is such a beautiful picture - my heart just lept when I saw it - oh so cute! It is such a shame that so many people are appalled by seeing something so amazing and natural... Even before I breastfed I used to think it was such a lovely sight to see a mum so close to her baby. i think in the UK we have come a long way with promoting breastfeeding in public - I know Tony Blair was advocating it a few weeks ago - but there are still so many people that give you dirty looks - and I thought it would be the older generation but it's not!
It has made me realise that I haven't got any photos of me breastfeeding Thomas - so am gonna have a sesh this wknd before I wean him completely!
xxx
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I totally agree with everything that has gone before - I have no idea what the big deal is!! I breastfeed regularly in public (well I did until dd was getting so distracted it was pointless!!). Anyway I never saw anyone give me a backwards glance as with my shirt pulled up to her face you could barely tell what I was doing unless you oggled! I live in the UK and I was almost disappointed no one approached me as I had a response figured out... our billboards and advertising is pretty liberal, boobs and bums everywhere as well as newspapers with topless girls on the second page-so my response would go something like this "until they take the girls off page 3 I'm going to feed in public" - as well as "if you think the toilet is so appropriate then you eat your lunch in it" - in the nicest possible way ;D
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Sam's mum ;D - lol that is genius - will save them up in case I get approached!!
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First of all - Kimberly, did Dr.Phil actually suggest that mothers should feed in the restroom?? :o :o I'm disgusted.
Secondly - I can't believe that people took offense. As you guys already pointed out, it wasn't a full breast picture & imo was actually quite discreet.
As for the people who complained - I think if you showed any man that picture, he wouldn't think "Cor!!! Booby" coz you can't see anything & there's a baby attached.
As for people being offended when mothers feed in public - It's not like women have both boob sticking out & on display when feeding. 99.9% of the time you can barely tell it's even happening
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I didn't breastfeed either of my two but didn't find this offensive at all. I don't think that I would have thought anything it just looks natural and it is on the front of a parenting magazine. I heard a story about a lady who visited debenhams restaurant and discretely tried to breastfeed her baby and was asked to leave as they had mother and toddler rooms that she could use. Apparantly a customer had complained that she was offensive although she was completely covered. I think that it is narrowmindedness.
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Sooooooo many comments made me smile and laugh.
The picture is gorgeous and I posted a little while back about my infatuation with pics of breastfeeding moms. It's simply beautiful.
When I had just had ds and was trying to figure out this parenting thing, my poor dad got to see my milk making machines way more than he would have ever liked to. My parents were staying wtih me and keeping those machines housed was a fulltime job. But only a year later, I can't believe I did it....... but it was just part of my daily life then. I was workign on so many different things, that doing up a shirt seemed like a huge task.
Bfing is beautiful, I just wish more people were accepting of it, but I'm grateful that we have a community like BW that is.
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Aargh, that's just crazy. Everyone's already said it all! I'm sure there've been some pics like that in NZ mags, and no-one/not many (??) make a fuss! Our mags would more likely swing the other way... (protest about pics of bottle-feeding).
I remember that Dr Phil show - no he didn't say to nurse in the bathroom, one of his guests did. That show was truely infuriating as well.
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i nursed Ethan in public whenever i needed to discreetly. i can prove it was discreet as there were a few occasions when people leaned in to pat the head of the "sleeping" baby only to discover that the baby was busy! feeding!
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My breasts never looked like that either! And I have just one word to say to that: Photoshop.
But I completely agree that people just need to chill out. If women were flashing their boobs all over the place that would be one thing, but you can't see that much when a baby is nursing! Here in Portland (where it's a State law that women may breastfeed in public) there was an article in the paper just a few days ago about a woman who sat down on a bench in a Fred Meyer store to feed her screaming baby and had several people complain to the manager. I guess this incident took place back in April, but since then she's become a "lactivist" and has started a local group called Mom's Milk Anywhere (MomMA) to promote breastfeeding as something natural and necessary. Here's the link to her blog:
http://www.reluctantlactivist.blogspot.com/
While I, personally, think that she's blown the situation a bit out of proportion, I can understand her being upset by it, and agree that it's a good idea to promote breastfeeding, as long as it doesn't get too out of hand! ;) Anyway, I thought you ladies might be interested in what she has to say, and some of the links that she's got on there.
Allison
P.S. I've never posted a link before, so I really hope it worked!
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I cant get over peoples sexual obsession with breasts, its crazy :o
I am speechless after reading that article, a woman with a four month out saying that its gross!
In the UK we have page 3 girls with their boobs out in a newspaper sold at child level on the shelves with FHM, Loaded etc not much higher and if you lift you eyes a little higher you'll find full on porn mags and yet a small bit of naked flesh being used for innocent nourishment can caused such a stir.
Its a beautiful picture showing a gorgeous baby on a gorgeous boob (wish mine looked like that!) It should be celebrated as a thing of beauty not hidden as if its dirty and shameful.
Hannah x
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It makes you wonder though.......
Are these same women that found it offensive not appreciated as mothers and wives but only seen as sex objects? If ya get down to basics the *girls* were put upon our bodies to nourish the fruit that it bares. So if the woman that said it was gross....is it because she thinks that sex is gross because it really sounds as though it is a sexual thing. Maybe her partner is all about *that* and it may turn her off and when she sees breastfeeding in progress it upsets her and she can't seem to seperate in her mind that these two acts are two entirely seperate things??? Just another thought that came to my mind. I mean we live in an age where Rape is considered an act of violence, not an act of sex.........I very much doubt that breastfeeding moms are thinking that b/f is going to be as entertaining as a great baby dance with dh. (of course, I could be wrong.....what do I know....Me and Playtex bottles and all....) ;)
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That magazine has been sitting on my dining room table for 2 weeks. I took one look at it and thought...UH-OH...the crazies will crawl out of the woodwork over that. I've seen more breast on Oprah at 4 in the afternoon! As for the women who had to tear off the cover or hide the magazine from their husbands....good grief....GROW UP!!!
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That magazine has been sitting on my dining room table for 2 weeks. I took one look at it and thought...UH-OH...the crazies will crawl out of the woodwork over that. I've seen more breast on Oprah at 4 in the afternoon! As for the women who had to tear off the cover or hide the magazine from their husbands....good grief....GROW UP!!!
Don't hold back, scotpiper - tell us how you REALLY feel! ;) ;D :P
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ironically, nothing makes me feel sexier or more like a woman than bf'ing! ;D
Except for being sore and tender, I have to agree with you 110%!!! I also miss HAVING boobs since Natalie self-weaned after realizing she could feed even faster from cups with straws...... sigh.... :(
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Hi Guys thought I would post you this funny breastfeeding pic. Not sure if it has been posted before but I love it, it's so cute.
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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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LOL that is fantastic ;D
I love babes!
They are so innocent - they can't help wanting what they want when they want it can they!!!
:) :) :)
x
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HAHAHAHAHA
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Very funny pic!!! Babies ;D
Recently went visiting my cousin (more like a sister), who is currently bfeeding & got talking to her friend who just weaned her son (2). Anyway lo decided that if mommy wasn't gonna him a drink, he'd see if daddy had anything available. ;D ;D (Who has since said he has a new found respect for breast feeding mothers)
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NikiJ- LOL very funny
I was recently feeding my lo in front of a friends 2 1/2 year old who has been exclusively bottle fed... she noticed that I switched my lo over half way through so I explain the first was empty she replied with "can I feel the empty one?" ;D
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I love that I am able to BF my LO and am astounded by the ignorance of those who find it repulsive. I admit I am a bit nervous when feeding her in public, mostly cause I know there are ignorant people out there, but I DO NOT leave or feed my child in the bathroom as it's gross.
The one thing I continue to struggle with is how to explain this all to my 3 1/2 yo. I tell him mommy is feeding the baby her milk. He doesn't ask too many questions, but he hasn't quite accepted that only mommys feed babies like this. So he "feeds" his stuffed animals. Needless to say it's quite humorous when my little boy lifts his shirt to feed Tucker (his horse). Or when he tries to pump or puts coasters down his shirt cause he sees the breast pads! Thankfully he has a patient preschool teacher who doesn't mind that he shows all the other kids how to feed the babies. :)
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Does anyone remember that Benetton advert from the late 80's featuring the black woman breastfeeding a white baby? I think they made a Times Square billboard of it and caught SO much flack that it was down within a week. I thought it was a gorgeous photo.
This subject is also being discussed on another forum I frequent - one related to the sport of triathlon, if you can believe it! Basically, the feeling I get is that the portion of the population that is offended by open breastfeeding, and views a baby at the breast as a sexual act, is ridiculously small, but just like any outspoken minority they get their voices heard. Sad.
I also remember a case from some years back where a woman's children were removed from her custody, albeit temporarily, when she wrote an article describing the act of breastfeeding as "sensual." Which it is. Duh.
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I have to go breastfeed dd now so I don't have time to read all the comments :) but I get that magazine and thought it was wonderful that they addressed the issue of why women don't breastfeed longer. IMHO, I think the main reason is in the title of the AOL article - people's attitudes to it!!!.
I'm very careful about how I bf my child in public (very shy) but I wouldn't be surprised if someone said something to me anyway. I've got an answer ready and I will go ballistic on them!! (I can't wait! ;) ;D)
I saw a tshirt for sale somewhere that said something like
"If my breastfeeding in public makes you uncomfortable please feel free to put a blanket over your head!"
Wendy, you should have bought it. It would have brought out people's comments for sure. I carry a card I got from our state governor's wife saying it's legal for me to bf in public... just in case I need to shut anyone up.
Sam's mum and mgillard... :) :) :) :) :)