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Title: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 09, 2008, 19:21:59 pm
We have a lot of lo's that cannot handle milk, soy or goats milk and are on rice milk.

I thought I would start a new topic on some ideas on how to increase fat in diet and ways to increase the fat content in rice milk.

PLEASE ADD SUGGESTIONS!!!

- Your typical Rice milk is fortified with calcium and vitamins, but are low in fat and protein.

      
Nutrition Facts - Rice Dream brand
Serving Size: 1 cup, 8 fl oz. (240ml)

Amount Per Serving

Calories 120   
Calories from Fat 20

% Daily Value*

Total Fat 2.5g   
4%
   
 Saturated Fat 0g   
0%
   
 Trans Fat 0g   
   
 Polyunsaturated Fat 0.5g   
   
 Monounsaturated Fat 1.5g   

Cholesterol 0mg   
0%

Sodium 100mg   
4%

Total Carb. 23g   
8%
   
 Dietary Fiber 0g   
0%
   
 Sugars 10g   

Protein 1g   

Vitamin A   
10%

Vitamin C   
0%

Calcium   
30%

Iron   
4%

Vitamin D   
25%

Vitamin B12   
25%

Phosphorous   
15%
 

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.


- As you can see Rice milk is very low in fat and protein. You will need to either add extra fat and protein to the milk or make sure your lo is eating a well balanced diet with healthy fats and protein.

Here is what I did for my lo's rice milk:

- 8 oz. Rice Milk
- 2 oz. Coconut Milk (I used Goya brand, found in the international food isle of grocery stores).  Adds 9 grams of fat. 
- 1 tablespoon of MLO Rice protein for the protein. 

If your lo eats meats, peanut butter, etc.  Then there is really no need to add the rice protein.

By adding the above, it came out to more fat and protein than in whole milk!

* I also added 1 tablespoon of strawberry nesquick for flavoring.  My son loved it.

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Ways to add fat to diet:

- Avocodoes are a great source of fat.  I have a book that says, you can actually live just on them a lone because of the nutrients.

- You can get a really ripe avocodo and cut into chunks and coat with dry cereal (smashed up), easier for picking up.
- Puree for younger ones or puree and add to crackers, sandwiches, etc. 

Here is the link about avodoes and recipe ideas:

www.wholesomebabyfood.com/avocadobabyfoodrecipes.html

Please see below for NON- DAIRY calorie boosters.  I am not sure if these are soy free also, so please read the ingredients if have to avoid soy also.
* This was a list I got from the feeding clinic.

There is a product called Doucal that is a powder that can be added to foods for extra calories, also adding olive oils and we were told to fry all foods.



Non-Dairy Calorie Boosters

Product            Calories         

Oils/ Margarines

Canola, Vegetable, Corn, Olive Oil   1 Tbs = 120 calories      

Smart Balance Light                 1 Tbs = 45 calories      

Parkay Squeeze Margarine      1 Tbs = 70 calories      
   
Fleischmann’s Light Spread/Stick   1 Tbs = 40-50 calories      

Fleischmann’s Unsalted Spread      1 Tbs = 70 calories      

Spectrum Naturals Spread      1 Tbs = 80 calories      

Earth Balance Natucol or Soygarden   1 Tbs = 100 calories   

Whole Soy & Co. Soy Spread      1 Tbs = 35 calories      

Mayonnaise

Hellman’s or Kraft  Real Mayo      1 Tbs = 45 calories      

Naysoya Nayonnaise (soy based)   1 Tbs = 35 calories      

Follow-Your-♥ Vegenaise              1 Tbs = 90 calories      

Spectrum Natural Mayonnaises      1 Tbs = 100 calories       

Cheese/ Cream Cheese - These will be soy based

Follow-Your-♥ Gourmet Cheese      1 Tbs = 35 calories      

Vegan Rella Cheese Substitute              1 Tbs = 25 calories      

Parma! Vegan Parmesan                      1 Tbs = 25 calories      

Soyco Foods Vegan Cream Cheese           1 Tbs = 30 calories      

Tofutti Cream Cheese                 1 Tbs = 60 calories      

Tofutti Sour Cream                         1 Tbs = 40 calories      

Salad Dressings (always double check food label for ingredients)

Kraft Catalina                    1 Tbs = 50 calories      

Ken’s Country French         1 Tbs = 65 calories      

Ken’s Honey Mustard         1 Tbs = 65 calories      

Ken’s Zesty Italian                 1 Tbs = 50 calories      

Ken’s Thousand Island         1 Tbs = 70 calories   
   
Naysoya Veg-Dressings (soy based)   1 Tbs = 30-35 calories      

Annie’s Dressings                 1 Tbs = ~65 calories      
   
Nut Butters

Peanut Butter                   1 Tbs = 100 calories      

I.M. Healthy Soy Nut Butter      1 Tbs = 85 calories       

Sunbutter (Sunflower Butter)      1 Tbs = 100 calories       *my son loved this*

Sweeteners

Honey               1 Tbs = 60 calories      

Maple Syrup            1 Tbs = 50 calories      

Brown Sugar            1 Tbs = 50 calories      

Karo Syrup            1 Tbs = 60 calories      

Apple Butter            1 Tbs = 30 calories      

Fruit Spread, Jam, Jelly      1 Tbs = 50 calories      

Strawberry, Chocolate Syrup   1 Tbs = 50 calories      

Instant Jell-o            1 Tbs = 30 calories      

Dr. Oetker Vanilla Pudding Powder   1 Tbs = 30 calories      

Others

Ah! Laska Organic Cocoa      1 Tbs = 55 calories      

Coconut Milk/Cream         1 Tbs = 30 calories      

Wheat Germ            1 Tbs = 25 calories      

Better Than Milk Soy Beverage (powder)   1 Tbs = 50 calories   
   

Duocal            1 Tbs = 42 calories      

Polycose            1 Tbs = 23 calories      

Microlipid            1 Tbs = 66 calories      

MCT Oil            1 Tbs = 115 calories   


**Wendy**   
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 09, 2008, 19:32:06 pm
This is an awesome thread, thank you!

What is "MLO Rice protein" and where do you get this?  So Coconut milk is pretty safe in regards to allergies then?
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boos
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 10, 2008, 00:26:29 am
Great questions.

When I was giving my lo coconut milk, he was reacting to peanut butter. I was a member of the kids with food allergies website and there was a thread about rather cocanut milk was safe for kids with a peanut allergy since it is in the nut family.


Coconuts
The coconut palm is common in tropical regions all over the world. The nut is covered in a fibrous outer coating on the tree and all parts of the tree are useful, the trunks for timber, the leaves for thatch, the fibrous husk produces coir - the starting material for ropes and coconut matting - and the nuts are used for food. Unripe nuts contain coconut milk. The nutmeat can be eaten fresh or dried (desiccated or flaked coconut) and is also available in blocks of creamed coconut. A valuable oil is also extracted from the nut meat and used for cooking.

Anyhow, the research I have done says that typical someone with a peanut allergy can safely have coconuts.  Of course, there is always that rare chance like with any food.



MLO Rice protein:  Here is a link where you can buy it online.  Also in regards to rice protein.  In order to have a complete protein, it must contain the essential amino acids.  A complete protein is either an animal product (ex. milk, cheese) or a whole grain and a legume (ex. Rice and a bean). 

When my lo was having rice protein in his rice milk, I contacted the nutrionist I was working with at the feeding clinic to ask her rather or not the rice protein was an actual complete protein.  She contacted the company and YES it does contain all the essential amino acids.  I will post the amino acid breakdown of the MLO Brown Rice Protein.

Here is the link, there a tons of sites you can buy it.  I found it locally at a health food store.

www.veganessentials.com/catalog/brown-rice-protein-powder-by-mlo-gluten-free.htm


Here is a link also about what a complete protein is: 
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

www.fitsugar.com/165298


Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Peek-a-boo on July 10, 2008, 00:42:40 am
How about ground flax seed?  It's a good source of calories and healthy fats.  :)
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: momtoandrewandthomas on July 10, 2008, 12:23:59 pm
Thanks Wendy for adding this thread.  It is a good quick reference for those of us that forget things more often than not.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: fitfamily on July 14, 2008, 04:42:47 am
My LO had severe food sensitivities.  He couldn't eat any foods until 8m.  After we introduced rice milk at 13m we added 1 serving of Carlson Brand lemon flavored cod liver oil.  He loved it.  It has EPA and DHA too.  Great for brain development.  Here is a link where we buy it.   It's also found in health food stores.    http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=5934
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 14, 2008, 15:36:31 pm
I was curious about fish oil like that.  Should we be concerned over fish allergies when taking fish oil capsules?
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 14, 2008, 18:26:03 pm
I took a look online and found this.  Makes sense.

Humm might have to look into them myself.


Q. Can you take fish oil capsules if you have a shellfish allergy. I can eat fish but cannot eat shellfish.
   A. As far as we know there is no problems consuming Fisol or fish oils since they contain fatty acids and not teh allergens that cause shellfish allergy.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: em_here on July 14, 2008, 18:27:24 pm
WONDERFUL thread, will read later when I have a little more time (house cleaning time calls now *sigh* )

THANK YOU! xxxx
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 14, 2008, 18:43:26 pm
Yes thank you for the thread! And thanks Wendy, I have fish oil for the Omega's but was concerned about giving it to my son in fear of an allergic reaction. Thanks!
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boos
Post by: Spectra on July 16, 2008, 00:12:00 am
Okay, so today I bought the Rice Dream rice milk, and a can of coconut milk.  There were three different kinds of coconut milk and I wasn't sure which was best.  One had 60 cal per 1/4 cup with 8g of fat and one had 140 per 1/4 cup and 14g of fat.  I got the higher fat one, but I figure I won't use as much, it also has 1g of protein.   

I purchased the North Coast Naturals Certified Organic Rice Protein (vegan Hypo-allergenic)  this is the nutritional info, can you tell me if this is good or not before I crack it open?  It is a lot of protein, I'm guessing I don't need that much?

Serving size 1 tbsp with 120-240ml of preferred beverage:
Calories: 75
Fat: 2g
Sodium: 10mg
Protein: 12g

I want to give it a try, my son's eczema is flaring up again bad on his face, and his really congested.  He is  not showing any signs of improvement on the goat's milk.  Not to mention it is really hard to find goat's milk here!
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 16, 2008, 02:45:36 am
Hey Melanie:

I just compared the nutritional value of the MLO rice protein and the one you got.  I only used 1 tablespoon of the protein powder, so it was 7.5 grams of protein. 

I really like the brand that you got, I like the fact that it is 100% organic.  I think this is a good brand.  I would use 1 tablespoon per 8 oz. of rice milk.

Did you get the calcium fortified rice milk? 

Not to sure about the cocanut milk.  The one I had only had 8 grams of fat.  I probably would have bought the higher fat one also.  I would just start with 1 oz. of the coconut milk per 8 oz. rice milk. 

Also, the Vanilla Rice Dream has, I believe, about 20 calories or more than the plain. 

If he refuses to drink it, try strawberry or chocolate nesquick to cover the taste, worked for us.

I really hope this works.. Please keep us posted.

Wendy
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 16, 2008, 02:46:29 am
Oh one last thing.  Just wondering, why isn't he on formula still? 
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boos
Post by: Spectra on July 16, 2008, 03:32:54 am
My doctor thinks his eczema and terrible congestion may be due to an allergy.  He said as long as he is eating lots of solids we can try him on goat's milk to see if it is MSPI, however I'm not seeing any difference.  His eczema is flaring up again all over his legs, arms, and worse on his face.  It breaks open and is...well... gross and he won't stop scratching at his cheeks.  He always has a runny nose and won't stop sneezing.  He's been like this since he was 1 week old, same time he's been on formula.

He is on a restricted diet to figure how what is causing all this.  Though my GP feels it is an allergy, my pediatrician thinks my sons eczema isn't bad enough to be deemed an allergy, even though his congestion is terrible.  And therefore I never got a prescription for special formula.  So I'm doing as my GP suggested.  I'm trying to figure this out and I HOPE so much that this works!

The Rice Dream rice milk I got was the original one, no vanilla flavouring.  It's the same as the one you listed in regards to nutritional info.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 16, 2008, 03:52:36 am
Are you kidding about your Ped.  That makes me mad.  Why should they care if they write the prescription or not.

You are deft. doing the right thing then. 

Has he drank any of it today?


Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 16, 2008, 12:15:17 pm
Yup, it is now 9am here and he had the Rice Milk for 8am.  He drank it all, so at least the taste difference doesn't bug him. So far so good!

Yeah, my ped totally made me mad.  All he said was, "He'll grow out of it."  Well my son is almost a year and he still has these symptoms full force.  The ped thought once summer hit the eczema would go away, he figured it was due to dry weather.  Said the same thing about his congestion, said it was "dry weather" and to use a humidifier.  I told the ped that his eczema isn't so bad right now (right now as when I had the appointment) because I have been using the steroid cream for a month, which helps to "tone down" the eczema, but doesn't rid it completely.

Then when I told him about my son throwing up 10 times in a row 2 hours after he eats anything with Oats, Oat bran, or barley and their derivatives, and he is extremely lethargic and he has diarrhea and is pale and clammy he said, "He's just got a sensitive tummy, he'll grow out of it, try again in about a month."  Well, I accidentally fed him some oat bran in some mixture of baby food 3 months later and my son had the same reaction.  Now he's on a restricted diet on advice from my GP.  And here I thought specialists knew more... :)
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 17, 2008, 03:32:23 am
Are you giving him wheat?  If he is that sensitive to gluten in oats, barley, then I would think he would be the same with wheat.

Just wondering, because that could be the root of his problems.  Celia Disease/ Gluten intolerance causes all sorts of issues, one being eczema.


Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 17, 2008, 12:58:16 pm
Hmm, no I haven't tried wheat.  Can you get that in cereal form?  I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 17, 2008, 17:30:42 pm
No, I was saying have you tried wheat.  Personally with his history, I would not.

BUT.....  Wheat flour is in all types of foods.  finger foods, snacks, crackers, bread, pasta, etc. 

What foods are you giving him?
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 17, 2008, 17:47:52 pm
Oh, I see.  I am currently only giving him straight veggies, fruit, and meat, because my doctor is trying to restrict him from getting anything he might be allergic to while we try the different milks to see if anything changes.  However I do remember giving him those Farley cookies, I looked them up and they contain Wheat, he never threw up on those or had any other adverse reaction.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 18, 2008, 01:34:12 am
That is good.  Sounds like that may not be a problem then.


Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: momtoandrewandthomas on July 18, 2008, 03:05:41 am
Chiming in on your comments about the doctors Melanie.  I have to laugh too at what they say.  I think that is all well and good and maybe they will grow out of it, but in the meantime we are living in our own private HELL and puzzling through on our own.  That is the part that gets me the most.  If one of these doctors actually lived 24 hours 7 days a week in our shoes, I would hope for more support and sympathy.  My Thomas used to rub his chest and tummy all day.  He would lay on the floor and push up against the couch.  Cry all day long.  Throw up 20 times (that I knew of) a day and I got the old "It's hot, he's fine, he's teething, blah blah blah.  I know I sound angry and I still am.   I mourned the loss of my happy, healthy baby that they seemed not to care a bit about.  Anyway, life goes on and I lived and learned to fight for everything I feel.  Moms know best (and dads too).
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 18, 2008, 13:13:48 pm
Couldn't agree with you more.  Your poor little boy, can't imagine being in such discomfort all day like that.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 21, 2008, 00:13:08 am
Had a question regarding the Rice Protein.  Could it cause upset stomach?  The reason I ask is this, Thursday morning I started on the rice milk with coconut milk, left out the rice protein for that day as it was so expensive and I wanted to make sure he took to the rice milk first.  Thursday night was fine.  Friday I started the rice protein and since then he's started refusing the bottle, and in the evening when he usually was waking to eat he now wakes screaming and crying really badly.  He won't drink anything during the night, gets mad, screams, cries as he swats the bottle away.  Eventually I calm him enough to go back to sleep.  Friday, Sat, and tonight he refused his 7:30pm bottle.  I'm just wondering if he's experiencing pain at all?  I'm not sure.  All day today I didn't give him any Rice Protein, I will see if he'll wake up lots tonight or not.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 21, 2008, 00:26:32 am
The rice protein can be a little chackey (s/p).  It may just taste like crap to him and that is why he is swatting the bottle away.  Then he is crying because he is so hungry.

Zach never had a problem with it, but I added the strawberry nesquick to every cup of it to cover up that taste. 

I would deft. just try it without and just make sure he is getting protein elsewhere.

I am still in shock though that they can't get you a prescription for a hypoallergenic baby formula.  Is there anyway you can push for that?

Hugs to you, Wendy
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 21, 2008, 02:09:04 am
Well I was wondering about that actually.  I was wondering if there is any point to getting that special formula now considering he is going to be 1 in one month.  Isn't 12 months when we usually switch them off of formula and onto cow's milk?  Or is it at a later time we do that?  If so I might ask my GP when I go in 2 weeks.  The pediatrician wouldn't do it, but I never though to ask the GP, and my GP is the one who actually thought it was an allergic reaction to the formula in the first place.  I'm so confused! Ahhh! lol
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 21, 2008, 04:06:42 am
The normal age is 1 yrs old to cows milk, but some lo's stay on formula up until 2 if need be.

You may be right though, unless he is not gaining weight well, then I would just stick with the rice milk plan.  If he is not gaining weight or seems sick a lot, then I would deft. ask for the formula.


Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boos
Post by: Spectra on July 21, 2008, 11:24:14 am
Sounds good.  Well last night went better, he didn't wake up screaming and crying.  In fact he didn't wake at all and slept straight through the night.  I am finding since I switched to the rice milk he is lasting longer between feeds as well, I think it is because of the high fat in the coconut milk.  So hopefully things will continue to get better.  I was looking at my baby food jars and one large jar of peas has 10g of protein, which is really awesome.  I'm going to start giving him higher protein food since he won't be getting it in his milk. 

Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: momtoandrewandthomas on July 21, 2008, 12:18:54 pm
I know with Thomas that he pretty much stopped taking all bottles around 9-9 1/2 months.  Everytime he would see the thing, he would take off crawling fast.  I started using different cups and making smoothies which worked for a while.  I would mix some formula, fruit, milk (we still did not know that he was intolerant at this time) and yogurt and put them in a cup.  I could adjust as needed for nutrition.  It worked for a short time and then he became suspicious of any cups with straws or mixed drinks of any sorts.  He still does not trust things he can't see through and he says "I wanna see I wanna see" and I have to show him the liquid without the lid and then he tastes it.  we tried several trials of Neocate and Neocate splash as well as Elecare.  He just would not even try more than a sip and then I had to throw that cup away because in his mind it was tainted.  I just added fat and protein elsewhere in his diet and he has been happy and healty since.  I worry and give him vitamins daily and wish he would consistently take a calcium supplement and protein supplement, but he doesn't for now and seems OK.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Caroline-Charlies Mummy on July 21, 2008, 22:56:48 pm
How the heck did I miss this post? Thanks for starting it :-*

Ds is on rice milk for an unpleasant reaction to cows and goats' milk. The main things I do are a tsp of cod liver oil in the morning (mixes in well with his milk) and ground flax seed in his Weetabix/porridge. Also, he eats a lot of oily fish, and, if it's something like tinned salmon or tuna (his fave sandwiches), I'll drain them quite dry, then get them moist again with Hemp Oil - it has a 3:1 balance of Omega 6:Omega 3 oils, which is what's needed. (I once read an article on the fact that, since the media latched onto Omega 3s, we've lost the balance of the Omega 6s, so I keep that in mind).

I wish I could get him into avocados, but even I find them grim, so I can't blame him ;)

I'll be lurking here for tips :)
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on July 22, 2008, 03:39:54 am
Thanks Caroline for those suggestions.  I remember when Zach was on rice milk, I added I believe it was fish oil to his milk and it stunk SO bad. 

I know there are other kinds you can get though.

Melanie:

Remember it has to be a complete protein for your body to get all the essential amino acids needed.  A complete protein is a whole grain + a legume.  So rice milk plus the peas in the same 24 hours would count as a complete protein. 

Also any meat by itself is a complete protein. 

I posted a few links on the very first post about complete proteins.

OH... YEAH.. About sleeping through the night.  That is SO AWESOME.

Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on July 22, 2008, 11:49:45 am
Hehe, thanks about the information regarding the proteins.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boos
Post by: Spectra on August 12, 2008, 02:16:35 am
I found this website, and this section in particular, that lists all the different kinds of Rice Milk, what countries you can buy them from, and if they are gluten free or not as well.

http://www.godairyfree.org/Food-to-Eat/Shopping-List/Milk-Alternatives.html
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on August 13, 2008, 18:49:05 pm
Thanks so much!  Great info.  Wendy
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: imaayafa on September 30, 2008, 18:14:40 pm
my toddler was not allergic to gluten but had a lot of trouble gaining weight. (and when they eat less they get less nutrition so this is hard). my suggestions for increasing fat in the diet: i gave him a tablespoon daily of flax oil (omega 3s are great for health); organic sesame spread (tastes like peanut butter and is full of healthy fat); homemade houmas with olive oil, lots of extra virgin olive oil on everything; lots of avocadoes; full fat organic yogurt (For those who aren't dariy allergic) with oil. and lots of organic eggs. studies show that babies can eat at least 5 eggs a week without any influence on their cholestorl levels. many drs say an egg a day is ok and the yellow has great healthy fats, especially in freerange organic eggs. almond butter and almond milk is very expensive but lovely fats and really yummy. lastly, i make homemade pancakes with buckwheat (which is gluten free), ground walnuts (great high protein and fat and omega 3), bananas, blackstrap molasses (high mineral content) and cook them in butter. yum!
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mydreamcametrue on October 01, 2008, 02:43:20 am
Love those ideas. Thank you so much for sharing.  I am going to try some of them.

Wendy
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mom Kara on October 23, 2008, 17:57:22 pm
I haven't been on babywhisperer in a long time.  My son turned 2 in June.  He is allergic to milk, soy and fish.  Started reacting to my breast milk at about 6 weeks and we had to put him on Alemintum (not sure I'm spelling it right).  He is mostly on rice milk now.  Before he turned two though we use Hemp Milk A LOT for him.  Granted he doesn't have any gluten intolerance - so I don't know if it has gluten in it.  Hemp Milk is extremely healthy (and pricey) - we transitioned him giving him part rice and part hemp and started out with vanilla flavored.  Now he will drink it plain and LOVES it. 

Just a thought in case you haven't tried that.  You can buy it at whole foods or another organic type grocery store (I actually found it at Kroger once - in their organic section)
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Mom Kara on October 23, 2008, 17:59:44 pm
Sorry - I forgot.  Was someone in this thread asking about bread?  I make all mine - with a bread machine.  I've got some really yummy recipes if you want them.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on October 23, 2008, 20:22:14 pm
I was, at one time, asking about bread, but my son cannot have wheat, oats, barley, dairy, soy, egg whites, so I'm not sure if you have any recipes that fit that?
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Post by: Mydreamcametrue on October 23, 2008, 23:42:23 pm
We tried hemp milk here also.  It actually cost the same as the rice milk did, which I was suprised. 


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Post by: Mom Kara on October 24, 2008, 17:45:58 pm
I don't have a bread recipe with all those resrictions.  Sorry :(  that is though.  I have some gluten free recipes but they would have you add dry milk or eggs.  You could do some sort of egg replacer or something to replace the dry milk instead.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: sanrega on December 03, 2008, 09:00:33 am
I just found this wonderful thread.
My lo has intolerance to lactose so I just stopped BF and had to introduce to an alternative.
I didn't want to give soy milk so i found other organic brands.
Have you heard about Oat or almond milk???
Can I have some advice?

the nutritional info for Oat milk: 250 mls
energy: 675
protein: 8
fat: 7
saturated (g): 1.25
transfat: nil
polyun: 1.75
momoun: 4
carbo total: 15.5
sugar: 9
sodium: 80 (mg)
calcium: (mg): 7.5
gluten (mg) 25

what shall I do and how much to increase to have the same nutrients, fats and protein as human or cow's milk?

Sandy

Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on December 03, 2008, 13:17:32 pm
Well the fat and protein look good, they are the same as in whole cows milk.  But does it have any Vitamin D in it?  Cows milk and Rice milk are fortified with vitamin D.  I'm guessing you could find a brand of oat milk that is also fortified.  Everything else looks good though.  If it doesn have vitamin D you can get vitamin D drops to add to the milk, or even poly-vitamin drops.  I don't know much about almond milk.  I just chose rice milk for my son because he has other food allergies, cannot have oats, and too afraid to try any nuts at this time.

Is your son still only 9 months?  He might be a little young still to be put on "regular" milk as far as nutrition goes.  My doctor said I could do it at 10 months as long as he is eat lots of real food to compensate.  Does your son eat lots of regular foods?
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Post by: sanrega on December 03, 2008, 19:36:06 pm
He has intolerance to lactose so the only alternative was soy, rice or oats.
he is 9 months old and has been on solids since 5 months.
He eats a lot of real food. 3 meals a day having seconds.
we have tried formula, cow's milk and it caused lots of discomfort and pain plus many night wakings
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Post by: Mydreamcametrue on December 04, 2008, 00:52:33 am
Hi, Where are you at? 

Personally I would NOT do Oat Milk, just because the ingredients read 25mg of gluten and he may not be able to tolerate gluten.

Almond milk is a good alternative, but then you have to worry about being allergic to nuts or not.

At this age of only 9 months old, I think you would be wise to either do a hypoallergenic formula or soy formula.  If you think it is just the lactose he cannot have, then there is also lactose free formula. 

He may actually be intolerant to the milk protein though and not the lactose.  Symptoms can be the same.  About 1/2 of kids that cannot have milk, also cannot handle soy protein either.

I would just highly advise you stick with an infant formula of some sort OR if you still have milk, you could avoid all dairy yourself.

WEndy
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Post by: sanrega on December 04, 2008, 07:12:54 am
Unfortunately it started 3 weeks ago so by now my supplied has just dried up.
He has intolerance to milk, cheese, ice cream, yoghurt, etc...
I did tried so many things-avoiding all dairies, special formulas but nothing seemed to help.
So far that's the only alternative I have found and IM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOY.
Thanks anyway for your advice I will keep searching
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Post by: Spectra on December 04, 2008, 13:21:32 pm
Have you talked to your doctor about this?  There are formulas you can get from the doctor especially for this.  That is what my son is on as he cannot have milk or soy.
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Post by: Mydreamcametrue on December 04, 2008, 19:44:09 pm
Don't give up.  It can take several weeks for milk to be 100% out of your system.  So he may  be fine with a hypoallergenic formula now.

Which one did you try?  I would personally try the hypoallergenic formula again or talk to you doctor about Neocate which is amino acid based.  Amino acids are the building blocks to a complete protein.  It does not contain any trace amounts of milk or soy.


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Post by: sanrega on December 05, 2008, 07:48:15 am
Thanks again for the advice.
I will se my doctor next week.
Sandy
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Keri76 on December 22, 2008, 19:58:00 pm
Thanks for all the great advice on this thread about the different milks to try. My daughter has a milk protein intolerance and we have been giving her soy formula since she was 4 months old and her symptoms did get better but her skin has never really cleared up completely. I do think she may have some issues with soy so we have decided to try out rice milk and I was trying to find out what else I could add to it to make it higher fat and protein and I'm glad I found some suggestions on here to try. She's now 17 months old and still wakes at night also has eczema flare ups and very dry skin which causes her to scratch a great deal.
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Post by: Spectra on December 22, 2008, 20:47:44 pm
Do you use a moisturizer at all?  I know when my son had the eczema it would wake him SEVERAL times during the night.   I use Glaxal Base cream moisturizer.  It is hypoallergenic and was recommended to me by the doctor.  I just get it at the drugstore in the skin care aisle.   I would also be careful of the hidden dairy and soy in products.  They go by many names, there is a sticky post on this forum about it.
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Post by: Keri76 on January 12, 2009, 21:49:31 pm
Thanks for the recommendation for Glaxal Base, I actually bought some about a week ago and have been using it and it's awesome stuff. My daughter is now being checked for Celiac Disease and CF because we ended up in the hospital with a very bloated stomach and awful constipation after a bout of vomitting for 9 days. She's also very thin and always has a bloated looking stomach and she poo's like 2-3 times a day so the doctors were concerned that although she had a virus there may be something else going on. She eats very well but doesn't gain a great deal of weight and is very thin. Hopefully we can figure out what is bother her with the doctors help. She's now on a Milk and Soy free diet and is drinking Neocate.
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Post by: Spectra on January 13, 2009, 01:22:40 am
Aww poor thing.  Hope she's doing better!
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Post by: mommyoflogan on January 19, 2009, 21:40:03 pm
Hello everyone,
I'm new to this thread, and i really like what I see here.  I'm pretty worried about making sure my son (almost 10 months old) gets all the right nutrition he needs.  I was breastfeeding him until around 8 months old.  He had eczema and was always a fussy eater.  Finally I decided to wean him to regular formula and he broke out.  We had him tested for allergies and it turns out that he is allergic to milk, eggs, peanuts, wheat, and soy!  I didn't realize any of this while I was breastfeeding and had been feeding him things he was allergic to for 8 whole months.  His stomach and intestines were very irritated and that's why he was such a fussy eater and had such a hard time going poop.  We also took him to a gastro-intestinal specialist to see if we could do anything to help his insides heal.  They told us to give him Nutramigen AA.  It's a special formula that is basically just amino acids.  He's doing much better on this formula.  However, they told me that he would need to be on this formula until he's at least 18 months old because rice milk doesn't have enough nutritional value for him.  I also am at a loss when it comes to getting him going with solids.  I mean, he's starting to eat pureed fruits and veggies, but when it comes to finger foods I'm not sure what to give him.  I mean, Cheerios are out because of his wheat allergy.  The store bought finger foods from Gerber are out because of his soy allergy.  String cheese isn't an option either!  As you can see, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed right now.  Any support or suggestions would be great.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Spectra on January 19, 2009, 23:37:57 pm
Hi, my son is like yours!  I found this great rice bread in the frozen section of the organic section of the grocery store.  There are a few of them, but I found one that does not contain any dairy/soy/wheat/gluten/eggs/etc.  The Toddler mum mums organic are also safe, no dairy in them.  You can make your own finger foods/cookies too.  I belong to this website http://www.kidswithfoodallergies.org/community.html that has a ton of recipes.  You just tick of the items that your son is allergic too and a list of foods come up.
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Post by: mommyoflogan on January 20, 2009, 23:24:40 pm
Thanks Spectra, I'll have to look into that website.
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Post by: KellyDMB on January 23, 2009, 04:41:07 am
Great Thread Wendy!  My DD2 (17 months) is dairy/soy/apple intolerant according to the doc who refuses to call it an allergy, evidently the eczema, rash etc weren't "bad" enough to warrant a diagnosis, again, they are not living with the problem. 

So...at 15 months when I stopped bfing I did the Rice Milk supplemented with olive oil, flax, coconut milk, etc, anything to change it up so that she would take it, thing for awhile as I was trying to wean her onto Nutramigen (hypoallergenic formula)  She is doing 12-18 Oz's per day now!  Things are much better!  But, what I hadn't realized was that Gerber cereals, Rice, etc have soy in them.  Once we switched to Beech Nut Brand cereals everything was so much better!  It's crazy what ingredients you find hiding in different places!   
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Post by: Spectra on January 23, 2009, 14:16:29 pm
So true!  I was able to find a rice cereal in the organic section that was void of milk and soy at the time.
Title: Re: MSPI/Milk Allergy -Rice Milk and Ways to INCREASE FAT in diet - Calorie Boosters
Post by: Calloo on March 16, 2009, 06:01:35 am
I have an 18 mo who has intolerances to gluten, cow dairy and legumes (soy, beans, etc). He has always been slight, but I have been more concerned as he is going through a HUGE growth spurt.

Fortunately, I live in Olympia, WA where I can get substitutes for just about anything.

Pamela's flour and Bob's Red Mill have just about anything I need to make cornbread, muffins and all.

Solid coconut oil is FABULOUS when used as a "butter" on muffins and in banana bread. Olive oil "butter" is great, too ... excellent on potatoes. Both are good as butter substitutes when baking.

Hemp milk has been FABULOUS for protein and more fat than rice milk. I have to be careful with coconut milk as so many brands have a TON of sugar in them. Coconut yogurt has definitely to much sugar.

He is eating lots of salmon (smoked is favorite) and anchovies.

We add 5g of rice protein powder and 1/2 tsp fish oil (berry flavored) in a daily smoothie.

He HATES Hass avocados, which are the most common. The mellower flavored ones are nicer for him, but hard to find. I have discovered, however, that grape juice will disguise about any flavor so grape juice/avocado smoothies it is! Mmm mm. :P

We go to a naturopathic ped for general check ups and health advice. She has the lo on probiotics to help his guts build up the helpful flora he'll need. When he's about 2 1/2 - 3, we'll start working on increasing his tolerance.

BTW, my mom was giving me grief about delaying building up his tolerance and this article came out in our paper today. Send it to any pushy grandparents you may have: http://www.theolympian.com/nationworld/story/788154.html
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Post by: Spectra on March 16, 2009, 12:43:35 pm
Thank you for the link, it was very interesting! :)
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Post by: afeswick on April 26, 2010, 00:01:43 am
Hi there,

Not sure if you've tried Oat Milk or not, but I used to drink that when I was breastfeeding my LO who had multiple protein allergies (but at the time we thought it was just milk/soy).  If I recall, I was horrified when I read the carton and saw how many calories it contained.  I don't have any more here, or I'd provide the nutritional information.  IMO, the oat milk tasted sooooo much better than rice milk, and I basically used it wherever I would have used milk.

Good luck!
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Post by: Buntybear on April 26, 2011, 21:14:49 pm
Bumping as some useful info here :)