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Title: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Canwi on August 02, 2010, 17:46:43 pm
Here's where the last thread finished off:
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=136091.450
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 02, 2010, 17:54:54 pm
Marking it off.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on August 02, 2010, 19:57:20 pm
DS had egg on toast, savory pancakes with hidden veggies and whole peas and corn today. He is prefering the finger food to the purees now I think. Dinner was pureed but he ate loads.
Anyway just marking my spot really.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on August 02, 2010, 22:39:29 pm
Marking my spot.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 03, 2010, 01:16:10 am
Oops!!  I'm jumping in to follow along.  ;)  Did a little BLW with DS1, he loved purees too but we did well with lots of finger foods early on.  Still got a few more months before DS2 is ready, but looking for ideas so will tag along to hear what you ladies are doing.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on August 03, 2010, 01:39:52 am
Hi Martina!  :)
DD did GREAT on vacation - ate corn on the cob and lots of peaches.
Tried meatballs today - mostly sucked on it so I'm not sure how much she actually "swallowed" but she kept going for more so that's a good sign! :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 03, 2010, 01:41:53 am
Corn on the cob!  Wow, I wasn't brave enough to try that one with DS until a few months ago!!  I remember doing meatballs with him, that's a really good one - you can even put all sorts of things in them like veggies and quinoa!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 03, 2010, 06:14:55 am
Oops!

Martina what's Quinoa? S made BLW a dream, and is still loving her food! She has been eating corn on the cob since she got her top incisors!

She had cabbage yesterday for the first time at the child minders, apparently she loved it!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 03, 2010, 12:00:15 pm
DS can chow down a whole peach in minutes!  He does sooo well :)  So, for those of you with olders LOs, when did they figure out spoons?  I feed DS his yogurt and cream of wheat and oatmeal, but I know he would rather do it himself.,  I let him try every time but it's a mess, of course.  Just wondering if you have any tips.

Quinoa is fabulous!  It's a whole food/ grain that you cook like rice.  It's pretty much no flavour so you can add whatever you want and make great cold salads and such with it!  I just had it for hte first time this year.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 03, 2010, 13:09:10 pm
The other great thing about quinoa is it's a complete protein, so is a fabulous way to add protein to the diet if your LO is struggling with meats.

Whatbit, it took T over a year to figure out the spoon, and even now he can use it but still prefers his hands as it's faster!  :P  But that sort of thing is just practice really, and you can't force them.  You can only just give them the spoon and they will figure it out in their own time.  ;)  And the mess is inevitable!  :P
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 03, 2010, 13:15:51 pm
I figured :)  Thanks, Martina.  A bit hard to eat yogurt with your hands, but he tries! 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 03, 2010, 14:31:52 pm
Whatbit the only way he'll get any good with a spoon is with practice! That means mess! You can give him the spoon when there's not much left. Or thicken foods up so it's not so runny.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on August 04, 2010, 22:49:46 pm
Whatbit the only way he'll get any good with a spoon is with practice! That means mess!
LOL! Lots of mess here  - DD is in such a hurry sometimes that we use 2 spoons - I give her the spoon with a bit on it and let her go. I really try to give the spoon to her right close to her mouth so she has less room to spill. :) but we usually have to wipe down the whole body (as she loves to swing her hands around her head) or just go straight to the bath. :)
Tried rice pudding today and loved it! :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 05, 2010, 03:23:05 am
The mess never improves really, it just changes. DD eats yogurt with a spoon perfectly, even spooning it off her face when she's missed! Then she'll turn the pot upside down and bang it on the table to make pretty circles ::) Or the spoon/ dinner gets thrown/ dropped in protest. Although the best of all is tipping the plate up and watching everything slide off ::)

Jaci we still don't give really runny food, far too risky! We soak it up in something first! We also discovered the best bibs are small adult t-shirts, they come down to their feet covering everything! Obviously not waterproof, but a small bib on top of that can soak liquids up!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 05, 2010, 12:53:56 pm
LOL- I have 2 bibs for DS- one with short sleeves made of towel material and then a long waterproof one with a pocket on the front to go over it!   
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 05, 2010, 12:58:11 pm
The mess never improves really, it just changes. DD eats yogurt with a spoon perfectly, even spooning it off her face when she's missed! Then she'll turn the pot upside down and bang it on the table to make pretty circles  Or the spoon/ dinner gets thrown/ dropped in protest. Although the best of all is tipping the plate up and watching everything slide off
Yep, we get this behaviour with T too.  :P
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 05, 2010, 18:02:38 pm
DS got sooo made today when I tried to turn his spoon around to dip it into his yogurt.  So I got out another spoon and showed hima nd then he had 2 spoons and was doubly angry when he was finished and I wanted to take them away.  Yikes. 
In other news, we tried eggplant but he didn't seem to like it.  Might have been what I put on it?  Any suggestions for how to bake/cook it and with what?  I used a small italian eggplant.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on August 05, 2010, 21:18:17 pm
Hmmm... I need to get that towel bib!

goblin - i've tried soaking up yogurt on toast - several kinds - and she's just not interested. I can't think of anything else for her to soak stuff up with?

About eggplant - sorry in advance if TMI - when DD was about a month my brother and sil visited and sil made the best best best fried eggplant something or other dish (waaaaaaay too complicated and time consuming for me to make!!! lol!!!). I loved it but finally realized that  every time I ate it DD had worse explosive poops (btw - they were always bad until about a month ago but even worse with the eggplant). Soooo, I was wondering if any of you think it would still bother her?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 05, 2010, 21:44:45 pm
Jaci the only way to find out is to give her some! You might find it just comes out completely undigested! DD had a few things that went through whole, raisins being the last, now she's making up for last time!

As for the yogurt we give Fromage frais (sp?) as it's less watery! Or you could give a small bowl of fruit chopped up in the yogurt? It's still messy but some will get eaten with the fruit!

Whatbit just keep it plain, or how you would eat it (watching any added salt) just keep it chunky enough for little hands to grasp!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 06, 2010, 00:30:37 am
I did olive oil, cilantro and cumin.  He really likes those spices in other foods, so... Maybe because I broiled it and it got really soft?  Maybe I should try stir frying it next time to keep it more 'solid'.

I also mix yogurt with couscous and cumin sometimes.  It's really thick that way and sticks to the spoon when DS grabs it from me!!  He can also kind of pick up the blobs with his hands if they fall on his tray.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on August 06, 2010, 19:08:16 pm
Hi all-
I have just found the link and have to go back to PP, but I wanted to tag along.

I have just started DD on some solids, but I am VERY interested in BLW.  DS at 17 mo still is not eating super great...good enough but not great.  He has major texture isssues that I really think came from only having the purees and "baby" type foods.
Thanks
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 06, 2010, 19:18:50 pm
Hi Sarah. My DD was weaned purely with BLW, the only things she doesn't eat are eggs (in any form) and leafy stuff like lettuce! She will try everything! BLW is the way ahead. x
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on August 06, 2010, 19:58:53 pm
I will have to back up a little more to the last group of pages, but how did you all start?  With Rice cereals, and then just start giving bits?
DD is starting food altogether early, but she LOVES to eat food.  It was recommended by our Dr. so I am feeling ok with her eating solids since basically 4mo.

Is there a book, or some other place I can get some direction?  Like I said DS is VERY limited in what he will keep in his mouth.  Although, in retrospect, at 6mo he did not eat nearly as well as DD did at 4mo.  On first try with food she was opening her mouth for the spoon and started saying mmmmm.  It was crazy compared to DS who still spits out more than he eats some days I swear!!  And meat-forget it!!  He will eat bits of sausage but that is it!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 06, 2010, 20:07:14 pm
Sarah, there is an actual book all about BLW I think by the woman who started it, I'll look into it for you later tonight when I have more time.

I did both.  I started with purees then incorporated the finger foods in by 7mos as T did really well with both.  But he never stayed on real purees for long as he always liked different texture.  We did a bit of rice cereal but TBH it was never a hit and stopped with it after only a few weeks anyway.  Just a lot of experimenting for us.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 06, 2010, 20:58:08 pm
I got the book! Baby led weaning: Helping your baby to love good food. By Gill Rapley and Tracey Murkett. It answered all my questions and is very informative, although it made me VERY anti puree!
 DD has never had a single puree. For that I was met with a lot of resistance from the 'old school' brigade who would 'tsk' at the thought of feeding a baby solid solids from the get go! A year after we started my FIL said 'we were waiting for this 'idea' to fail' It's nice knowing we had such support! Mind you, even my friends looked down their nose at me! But I enjoyed leaving DD to feed herself some of my lunch while I ate at the same time, my friends had to spoon feed their tubs of disgusting gloop and then feed themselves! Admittedly I took longer to clean up afterwards, but that's the only drawback to BLW!

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on August 06, 2010, 22:04:16 pm
So my best girlfriend...who knows nothing of BLW pretty much did BLW with her baby and had great success.  Her Baby is 3mo older than DS and she can eat anything.  She is at the age where she might not choose to eat something, but she will whereas DS lives on fruit and peas, carrots, corn and a few other things.  I keep trying like they say but it goes in and is back out in a nano second.  I would like to avoid this with DD.


Goblin-how old was your LO when you started giving her solids?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on August 06, 2010, 23:10:22 pm
Could be that she is still very young and has the reflex of sticking her tongue back out of her mouth which would push the food back out, in any form.  It might take a while for that reflex to go away.  It's usually around the 5.5/6 month mark that it's completely gone, depending on the LO of course.

We started solids just before 6 months and started with chunky purees for about 3 weeks.  I found out about BLW here and started adding in finger foods right away.  It does take some time for LOs to figure out the coordination to get stuff off a tray or out of your hand to the mouth and then bite and 'chew' and swallow.  And yes, it's messy!  I thinkt he cleanest spot in the house is under DS booster because I wash it 3x/day!!  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on August 07, 2010, 00:10:37 am
Could be that she is still very young and has the reflex of sticking her tongue back out of her mouth which would push the food back out, in any form.  It might take a while for that reflex to go away.
Sorry I was confusing, DD who is just starting eats great!!  It is the 17mo DS that spits it out so quick!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 07, 2010, 01:39:15 am
Sarah she was 26 weeks exactly! We were going to start a bit earlier but she had a bug so waited until she was better. She didn't have any coordination issues, after that first banana EVERYTHING was picked up and shovelled in, she was extremely easy to wean!
 I gave her practice with my hands from about four months old, she was grabbing my fingers and sticking them in her mouth! I have a brilliant series of photos eating her first food of a banana, her face goes from shock 'what is this thing?' to 'ah, tasty!' in minutes, very funny!
 
 That's another thing I was being pressured about 'when to start?' Not by family but fellow mums! They had both started giving that wallpaper paste (baby rice) at about 15 weeks. One with the misconception that it would help her LO sttn, it didn't! DD had had a few nw'ings and they kept saying 'she obviously needs a little extra!' I just gave her more breast milk! As it was she napped better after I started so they were possibly right! But I had also discovered this forum when she was 23 weeks and was getting nap assistance!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on August 13, 2010, 15:31:51 pm
Just putting my spot in here, we are starting BLW soon!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on August 13, 2010, 20:38:58 pm
Have bought some red lentils for DS to try. Anyone got a good recipe I can try to make it into finger food?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on August 13, 2010, 21:03:43 pm
Cadie's Mum, these are two recipes I got from the BLW website. I've not tried them yet but have been meaning to. They're finger foods, rather than a dish, as such. Might be worth trying?

Carrie and Xavier's lentil cakes...
•   1 tbps olive oil
•   1 onion
•   125g red lentils
•   400ml veg stock or bouillon
•   85g bread crumbs (stale or oven dried is possible)
•   Flat leaf parsley to taste (or other herbs - optional)
1.   Gently fry onion in olive oil until soft.
2.   Add the lentils and stock to the onions and bring to the boil.
3.   Simmer for 20-25 minutes.
4.   Mix with breadcrumbs and flat leaf parsley (optional).
5.   Shape mixture into small patties for little hands to hold. If your mixture feels a little sticky add more bread crumbs.
6.   Brush with oil and place on lightly oiled baking tray - cook for approx 7 to 10 mins on gas mark 6 (I did for about 12 I think)
I freeze them to keep them fresh and use them as and when I need them - although not as popular as the fish cakes, Xavier likes them a lot - I think to make them more interesting you could add different herbs/spices.


Lentil and cheese wedges


8 oz red lentils
3/4 pint water
1 large onion
1 oz butter
4 oz grated cheese
1 tsp mixed herbs
1 egg
1 oz breadcrumbs
salt & pepper - for adults!!
 
Cook the lentils in the water until soft, and all the liquid is absorbed
Chop the onion finely and fry in the butter until soft. 
Combine all the ingredients and press into an oiled 9" tin. 
Bake at Gas 5 for around 30 minutes. 
Allow to cool slightly then cut into wedges
 
These might be even tastier with a bit of garlic in?"

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on August 13, 2010, 21:14:10 pm
Cheers Sophie. I'll give these a try and let you know how they go.
I made some cheese sauce today and DS ate it with spaghetti. He really liked it. He was eating it in his baby walker whilst at my mum's and my two 1yo nephews were also there. The 2 nephews were hovering round the plate like wasps at a bbq and I ended up feeding half of it to them two in between replenishing DS's bits. Good thing I had made plenty. :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 13, 2010, 21:26:55 pm
There is a recipe for lentil croquettes in the Finger Foods for Babies and Toddlers book by Jennie Maizels.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on August 13, 2010, 21:36:51 pm
CM, Does he eat a lot of the actual pasta or suck the sauce off. I've given pasta to Lola but she doesn't really consume much of it, if any. Potatoes on the other hand. She's like me. Scoffs them!

Martina, would you recommend the book. I've not seen it before.

By the way, it's a way off and we may well just be feeding our LO's what we're eating, but in November there's a BLW recipe book coming out by Gill Rapley. A lot of the recipes, I believe, came from mum's on the BLW forum. Wish it was out now.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on August 13, 2010, 21:55:49 pm
Martina, would you recommend the book. I've not seen it before.
You know, I never ended up making much out of it, but the recipes are really good and I've heard great things about it.  I think I'm just lazy.  :P  But will give it another go with F gets older I think.  I did make the lentil croquettes and they turned out well, T kinda liked them, but I found they were a lot of work!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on August 13, 2010, 21:58:02 pm
Thanks Martina.
CM, Does he eat a lot of the actual pasta or suck the sauce off. I've given pasta to Lola but she doesn't really consume much of it, if any. Potatoes on the other hand. She's like me. Scoffs them!
He doesn't suck the sauce off at all actually. I cut the spaghetti into about 1cm lengths once it's cooked so he just grabs a handful of pasta and sauce and mashes it up in his mouth. He still doesn't have any teeth BTW. He doesn't really like potatoes. Has one or two mouthfuls and then he's not interested. Have only really tried mash and chips (which he will suck) so far though.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on August 24, 2010, 20:17:40 pm
Cadie's Mum, these are two recipes I got from the BLW website. I've not tried them yet but have been meaning to. They're finger foods, rather than a dish, as such. Might be worth trying?

Carrie and Xavier's lentil cakes...
•   1 tbps olive oil
•   1 onion
•   125g red lentils
•   400ml veg stock or bouillon
•   85g bread crumbs (stale or oven dried is possible)
•   Flat leaf parsley to taste (or other herbs - optional)
1.   Gently fry onion in olive oil until soft.
2.   Add the lentils and stock to the onions and bring to the boil.
3.   Simmer for 20-25 minutes.
4.   Mix with breadcrumbs and flat leaf parsley (optional).
5.   Shape mixture into small patties for little hands to hold. If your mixture feels a little sticky add more bread crumbs.
6.   Brush with oil and place on lightly oiled baking tray - cook for approx 7 to 10 mins on gas mark 6 (I did for about 12 I think)

Hi guys. I thought I would let you know that I made these lentil cakes and they were a hit with DS (as well as DH and I). I actually replaced the stock with water as I didn't want them to have too much salt in. I also left out the parsley (didn't have any) and added in a tspn each of oregano, smoked paprika and cumin as well as some garlic. They were tasty although I would probably leave out some of the breadcrumbs next time as the mixture was a little crumbly. DH and I had them with some tzatziki dip and they were scrummy! Thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on August 24, 2010, 20:57:46 pm
Mmm, good to know. Think I'll give them a go.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 24, 2010, 21:29:51 pm
Cadies mum have you tried boiled or roast potato? DD couldn't get enough of them, waffled too as they can be cut so the LO's can pick them up easily!

DS is getting himself ready, he keeps grabbing my fingers and shoving them in his mouth. I hope he takes to it as well as DD did, she loves her food!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on August 24, 2010, 23:54:20 pm
Awww, Marsha - the little Goblins are ADORABLE!!!!

Hadn't thot of boiled potatoes - I'm gonna try that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on August 27, 2010, 22:08:37 pm
Ladies, I am just getting the BLW book from the library but have a question now.  DD is sooooo ready it is crazy.

So far i have given her sticks of cucumber, cantalope, and green beans.  She also has had bits of mum mum.  She loves it all!!  The thing is she is still pretty little, is it ok if I give her bits in her mouth or does that defeat the BLW purpose?  Honestly the girl wants more than she can get into her own mouth at this point

Thanks
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on August 27, 2010, 23:18:16 pm
Sarah the whole point is 'they' do it themselves. They should pick it up and put it in their mouths when they're actually ready and able. I used to hand DD food that she couldn't quite pick up as it stuck to the tray, but I never fed her anything!
 By putting small bits in her mouth you might be risking choking. With BLW they only get in their mouths what they can pick up so small things will be off the menu for a while yet! Does that make sense?

So DS has had his first solids, not by my choice though! I found DD forcing some chocolate covered rice cake in his mouth a few days ago! Today she was having some toast when she kindly fed him a small piece of crust! I wouldn't mind but he was on his back and could have choked, nightmare!

Thanks Jaci. x
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on September 02, 2010, 20:54:33 pm
Hi ladies!!  ;D

I am looking forward to giving DD some foods she can feed herself!  I just started rice cereal with her and she loves it, tried peas and pears and she eats the baby mum mums. 

Just wondering what did you guys give your lo around 5.5 months?  If I do banana, should be kinda firm or really soft?  and give it too her in a stick?  More ssuggestions would be great.

I am going to see if the library has the book, or can get it, but was wondering of someone could start me off?

Thanks Mary  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 02, 2010, 23:14:33 pm
Hi Meditrina!  Welcome!
When I first started BLW, it was just after DS was 6 months old.  I did bananas as one of the first finger foods I gave him.  It's kind of slippery and hard for them to hold onto.  I know a lot of people on here suggested to break it into thirds and even to role it in rice ceral to give it some grip.  I found sticks of steamed butternut squash worked really well as did steamed broccoli florets.  They were easier to hold.  I also steamed apple slices and pear slices to soften them up.  At first, the bigger the stick, the better your LO will be able to hold on. Now I give all kinds of stuff but some of my staples are still steamed veggies as well as meatballs (I do pork ones, beef ones, turkey ones and today DS had boar!)  I add egg yolks and otameal as binders and add gralic and other spices to keep things interesting.  Mashed potatoes with other mashed veggies and egg can be baked on parchment paper into patties as well and work as great finger foods. 
Have fun and be ready for soem mess :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on September 02, 2010, 23:26:14 pm
Thanks whatbit for the ideas!

Today I gave her cuke sticks (like a length cut into 1/4s) and she loved it!  And she actually ate more then I expected her too, like the entire soft mifddle was gone and some of the outer part too.  The cukes were very slipperly as well, so maybe I will roll them next time.   I also just filled her spoon with the cereal and if held it out for her and if she grabbed it she would put it into her mouth herself! lol SOOOOO CUTE!!!  And what a mess!  Once I get my picture issues worked out I will show a pic, but as of right now I am Brad Pitt  ;)

Just wondering with the food, what if large chucks break off?  Like a few chucks of the cuke came off while she was knawing on it and it scared me a little.  We did something like BLW with DS (not really on purpose, lol, he just progressed to finger foods very quick and did not like being fed) but he was almost 7 months when he was mostly feeding himself adn she is only 5.5 months.  Anyone have a prob with this? 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 03, 2010, 12:08:58 pm
I din't do cukes until later, but did find that DS could 'chew' pretty well without teeth after he got the hang of things.  You might want to stick with stuff that mushes easier for the first little while.  Little guys have pretty good gag reflexes, but you wan to keep an eye out all the same. 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 03, 2010, 16:38:55 pm
Great ideas whatbit...I needed ideas too!!  DD is loving everything and when she sees a bowl or plate she opens her mouth to get a try of whatever we have!!

I gave her sticks of sweet potato that I sautéed in olive oil with a touch of salt and pepper.   This made the inside soft enough to "chew" and the outside was still stiff enough to hold but not so hard.

I too gave her a cuke to chew on, but thought maybe I would wait a bit to give them to her again.  Just kind of made me nervous.  I did give her some small sticks of melon and she liked that alot.

I know that the point of BLW is they feed themselves...and I let her as much as she can.  I let her guide the spoon if one is needed, but I still am giving her what we are eating.  Like the other night I gave her cous cous and flakes of the salmon I was eating.  Mostly I am just trying to avoid an eater like DS who still spits out things I know he likes if he thinks the texture (or something) is wrong!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: jordiwes on September 03, 2010, 17:45:53 pm
Can I follow along? DD2 is GREAT with her hands. What did you guys give for your FIRST BLW experience? It scares me a little but I want to try!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 03, 2010, 22:13:43 pm
Banana followed shortly by steamed sweet potato sticks.  We had done mashed pears and cereal prior but those 2 were his first actaul BLW foods.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: jordiwes on September 04, 2010, 03:44:34 am
Thank you! How long do you steam? I'm trying this tomorrow!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 04, 2010, 15:14:53 pm
I'm not sure how many minutes, but I did it so I could pierce the sticks with a knife tip.  If it got too soft, they just fell apart.  Probably about 5-10 minutes depending if they were frozen or not.  (To save time I prepare sticks of veggies and meatballs and veggies 'patties' and freeze them so I can pull out what I needed each day).
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on September 04, 2010, 15:26:56 pm
So the cukes gave DD some major gas!!!  I have to get grocery shopping to get some fruit and veg to give her.  I like the idea of freezing them.  So you freeze then steam when you are ready to feed her?

DD loves to feed herself!  If I am giving her something on a spoon, I do the same as you Sarah.  I just hold the spoon out and she grabs it and puts it into her mouth. 

Whatbit~ what kind of steamer do you use?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 04, 2010, 18:01:30 pm
A bamboo one that sits over a pot.  I bought it at an Aisan grocery store and it was very inexpensive.  I also have a mental one that came with my rice cooker.  It fits on top of a smaller pot I have.  Nothing fancy :) 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on September 04, 2010, 19:14:45 pm
Hi ladies! Just thot I'd throw out my 2 cents wotrh - DD started with cottage cheese and avacado. I was looking for high fat foods since she wouldn't eat much.  :P She still loves them both. Meatballs are also a hit - I like to hide veggies in them.  ;D You could also try macncheese or really any type of pasta. The idea is if they have dexterity to pick it up and put in their mouths they'll be ok  - so we went with peas and raisins etc. at about 8 months. Oh, and scrambled eggs. I admit, I just give her mine - white, salsa and all! No history of allergies in our family and she loves 'em!

Oh - and I do a mom-feeding/BLW mix.  ;) I also give her purees and discovered that she likes to suck on frozen cubes of puree. So, if she doesn't finish her yogurt/fruit/whatever in one meal I freeze the rest and she'll just eat the cubes later. She especially likes it when she's teething - which seems to be on going these days! 

What's the "rule" about wheat? I made a wheat pasta dish and gave her some yesterday. Other than that I don't think she ate anything new yes. but was up all night with gas... ???

p.s. - I was helpfully giving DD thick slices of peach to hold onto but just discovered that she prefers getting a whole half at once! Love them peaches!  ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: jordiwes on September 04, 2010, 20:54:30 pm
Thanks for your 2 cents, ionella. My little 6.5 month old can pick up grains of rice and put them in her mouth, so I think she could grab just about anything... Just tried with little slivers of avocado, worked ok. Some gagging but no biggy I guess.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on September 04, 2010, 22:09:44 pm
Glad she liked it!
Some gagging but no biggy I guess.
yeah - DD still gags a little here and there - but they catch on! ;)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 04, 2010, 22:14:44 pm
So you freeze then steam when you are ready to feed her?
SOme stuff, like cauliflour, I blanch and then freeze so I can do a quick steam before feeds.  The veggie patties and meatballs I bake and freeze.  Sweet potatoes and squash I just slice and freeze and steam later.

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 05, 2010, 06:40:53 am
Ok I've been MIA a while, but I'll jump right back in.

What is cuke?

Mary I never gave anything before 6 months. We were going to start a few weeks earlier but she got a little bug. When we did start her first food was a whole banana. It was amusing, I really should post the series of photos on here!
 She never had a purée but loved her food from the get go! DS is nearly four months so looking forward to him starting soon (but not the mess) I have pictures of S covered in pasta sauce and looking like an oompa loompa!

The gag reflex is normal and essential, it teaches them from an early stage. I never worry about a thing DD eats, she tucked into some cashew nuts quite happily a while back!

Jaci there are no rules about specific foods, just offer a balance of all the food groups. If something doesn't agree hold off for a while. DD had issues with dried apricots, grapes and raisins for ages. We offered every month or so, she LOVED them but her body just couldn't digest them. It's caught up now and she's making up for lost time with raisins every day for breakfast!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: gogomama on September 05, 2010, 09:00:57 am
Hi there,

I also was hoping to follow along and get some ideas. We are kind of in a forced BLW situation as DS won't take anything from me or the spoon, but seems like the best way to go in the long run :) Also, kind of a picky eater and won't eat anything warm, liquidy, or too small to grasp individually ie rice or couscous, so its been kind of a challenge to find foods he likes. Plan on trying the sweet potato fries and meatballs this week.  Also had the same question about the cuke? Is it short for cucumber?   
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 05, 2010, 11:11:38 am
What is cuke?
cucumber :)  The lazy way to say it.
I use the little Lebanese ones that have a thin skin and just slice them into rounds and then into smaller quarters.  Peeled and cut into sticks is probably best for LO's who haven't been doing BLW for long though.  DS has teeth and knows how to use them (BLWing for almost 5 months now!)

Gogomama, DS still has a hard time with couscous and smaller grains so I usually let the couscous dry out a bit and then mix it with cilantro and cumin and yogurt (for eample) for a thicker consistency that he can pick up with his hands or spoon out of a bowl (we're still working on the spoon skill!)  With rice, I use day old rice and that seems to stick into little balls better for picking up and you can serve it cold if he doesn't like it warm.

Marsha, your little one is growing so fast and it sooo cute !  I like the ticker picture a lot!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 05, 2010, 14:19:07 pm
Thanks Whatbit (sorry I don't know your name) he is my little cutie pie, I could gobble him up!

And Jaci I love the comment about my 'little goblins' Don't they grow so fast? DD was two yesterday! We're on holiday now and she eats better than some of the 6 & 7 year olds do. Someone commented that it's disgusting that they charge the same to feed a toddler as the do a 10 year old. I replied 'she could probably eat more than a 10 year old' BLW was SO easy with her!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 12, 2010, 19:01:54 pm
Is there a spot where there are BLW recipes?  I know that a few have been added to this thread, but I wondered if there were any in a specific spot...

We have done our first 2 days of official BLW, it is going great!!!  By last night DD has worked out how to pick things up off her tray.  She uses both hands to slide it to her chest then she uses her bib to stabilize it then picks it up!  I was watching her thinking OMG she just figured that out all by herself!!  Crazy

So she had some carrots out of our crock-pot meal as well as some potato.  I also gave her nectarine slices and a piece of meat.  She loved it all but wasn't as enthusiastic about the meat...I have to admit though, it was quite dry...I forgot to add water to my crock-pot duh ::)

I also am very glad I borrowed the book from the library.  I think I would have went about it slightly differently and I don't think she would have had as good of results. Haven't finished the book yet, but it is going well, so purees and cereal are completely out in my house!!

Oh one question, today we had a very messy loose stool diaper, which I expected bc of how much fruit she ate...is this ok and if not what should I do to change that?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 13, 2010, 19:57:45 pm
so purees and cereal are completely out in my house!!

YAY, real food is the way ahead.

The loose stool isn't normal, it might just be her body's reaction to the new foods. Or like you say too much fruit, maybe just slow down for a day or two and see what happens.

Isn't it great watching them figure it out? Most people tend to interfere and not trust them to do it themselves! I've never got bored of watching DD eating.

I don't know of an area for BLW recipes, maybe you should start the thread!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 13, 2010, 22:15:19 pm
I think the loose stool is bc something did not agree with her...maybe too much fruit, but also maybe an allergy?  She has a little rash now :( 
I gave her nectarine slices, bananas, carrots, avacado and potato-which she already had before and had no problem.  I did give her some whole grain toast to chew on so now I am suspecting that is the culprit.  We have a Dr. apt. on Friday...talk about it then I suppose.  Until then, she seems fine just a rash :P

She still gets very frustrated and gets very vocal, but I think I am still figuring out how big to cut her pieces of food into.  Sometimes I think I get it too big and sometimes too small.  Finding the happy medium is on my agenda

I think I will start that thread right now.  I need to come up with something while DS and I eat breakfast.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 13, 2010, 22:53:33 pm
I always found the bigger the better! I remember giving DD a massive chunk of boiled potato, DH looked and said 'you can't give her that' as the greedy so and so rammed the whole thing in her mouth :o what didn't fit fell out the sides, lol! I think we might have filmed that. She was about 7 months at that point.

She may have had an allergic reaction, don't they say it's the second and third time that the reactions are bigger? The bodies defences work quicker each time they meet the offending article!

Be sure to post your recipe link here so we can take a peak. x
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 13, 2010, 22:56:12 pm
She may have had an allergic reaction, don't they say it's the second and third time that the reactions are bigger? The bodies defences work quicker each time they meet the offending article!
This is what I worried about, now I am not totally sure which the offender was :P

I did start a thread and then found another but it seems to have gone dead in 2008..maybe we can revive it!

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178221.new#new
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 13, 2010, 23:10:32 pm
I've marked my spot!

I guess the only way to find the culprit is by a process of elimination! The rash may be coincidence! Maybe avoid it all for now until you've seen the doctor? I hope he's a doctor that supports blw though, there are a lot of purée fossils out there.

Mind you I can't ever see Heinz or other mush companies supporting it either!!!
 
Right I really should be sleeping now! Night night. x
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on September 14, 2010, 09:48:37 am
Hello lovely ladies  :)

We are starting slids tomorrow, very excited after a false start a few weeks ago.

I did a combo of spoon and finger food for my DS1, I would feed him for the first few minsutes from a spoon and let him havea  spoon too....  then put finger foods on his tray after 5 mins or so and let him go for it.

This timeround for Ds2, I wanted to do a bit more focus on BLW this time, but he has major food intolerances and only will be eating a few foods for quite a while. His first foods will be rice cereal, choko, potato, swede, pear, chicken breast it will take at least two weks to get to that point. Its important that he has the chicken early on for his protein, as there will be no dairy till he's 1. And alos he will need to protein for his weight gain.
So its inevitable that I will need to do purees/lumpy foods/etc and finger foods combo.

I wanted to ask  your thoughts on one crucial question:  From experience and reading i know that bubs will eat the most of their food in the first 3-10 minutes or so rather like a breastfeed.  So a reason to start with spooned foods then finger foods after would be to ensure that an adequate amount of food gets into them, whilst still providing all the sensory and fine motor skills stuff with finger foods next or at the same time.  HOw does that sit with BLW philosophy?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 14, 2010, 17:26:53 pm
Hey Eloise-I am by no means an expert bc I have just started doing this with DD, but I did pick up the book from the library and have started reading it.

So basically what you are thinking does not really align with the "true" BLW philosophy.  In short-you are not feeding them at all so the get a chance to experience the food and learn how to judge how much they want/need from the beginning.  This also lets them explore how food works in their mouth to prevent them from choking on bits you give them.  The way the work the food in their mouth is different in purees, they kind of slurp it which sucks it to the back of their mouth.  Then as they eat more solid food, they do the same slurp and then choke and sputter and might put them off to food.

Also, they suggest starting when your baby is NOT hungry bc they are less frustrated bc of hunger and will better be able to explore food at the right pace (I have already learned this)  So basically still having BF or FF as main source of food.  I think they said they will get to the point of really using fodd for food around 8mo (correct me if I am wrong) and they will do this in their own time frame if let to explore.

From my experience, I did not know what to expect.  I had been giving EL some puree and cereal, but I have stopped that completely.  We have been doing it for a week or so now and she went leaps and bounds even the first day.  She is able to pick up all sorts of stuff and she is actually eating WAAAY more than she would have with the purees.  She will eat a whole banana for breakfast, a half a nectarine and 2/3 an avacado for lunch, and just a bunch of carrots or potatoes for dinner (or whatever we set on her tray)  at first she wasn't getting much but in a weeks time she eats and swallows almost all of it!!  It is really amazing what they can do if you let them work through it...just be patient.

I know you have food concerns, but honestly I think you could just go straight to BLW exclusively and get the same results you are looking for.

I have had to work on getting my supply back up bc she is not depending on the rice or purees anymore, but honestly I kind of like it better that way anyhow.  Just me though...(but it also may be due to GS, still not sure why she wants to nurse all the time  ::) )

HTH-hope I explained it clearly enough...someone else can fill in what I did not put in or get right!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on September 14, 2010, 21:03:41 pm
thanks, you have given me some points to think about.  I do prefer he eat and learn by himself. Tere are so many upsides.  I still do worry about being able to turn everything into a finger food though.

For instance how do I get the meats into him? We are starting him on chicken within two weeks for protein. I am thinking the BLW says if they can't eat it, then they are not ready for it?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 14, 2010, 21:12:59 pm
EloysH could you mince or puree the chicken but then make it into patties/burgers/meatballs that you could cut up and do as finger foods? Or you could puree it and dip sticks of other foods, like the swede, into it to be sucked off. DS loves eating houmous this way. We do bread and pasta with purees on but I don't think you are giving these are you?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 14, 2010, 21:40:14 pm
EloysH could you mince or puree the chicken but then make it into patties/burgers/meatballs that you could cut up and do as finger foods? Or you could puree it and dip sticks of other foods, like the swede, into it to be sucked off. DS loves eating houmous this way. We do bread and pasta with purees on but I don't think you are giving these are you?
I am pretty sure there is a recipe that would work doing it this way:
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=102407.0
 It looks like you might be able to do something like this.  Also, FWIW, I think if you did BLW for 3 meals the next 2 weeks, she could pick ou the chicken and eat it..or like in the BLW book says to give them a chicken leg bone (with meat still on) just remove the grisly parts and splinter bone first and that gives them a handle to hold onto to get the meat in her mouth.  I will be trying this this week so I can let you know how it goes.

I really want to help bc I may be looking to you for ideas in the future.  I know your LO has intolerances and I am beginning to suspect DD is not only MSPI, but also maybe wheat?  So you may have some suggestions for us too :)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 14, 2010, 21:42:25 pm
Oh by the way what is swede and choko?  I love trying new things and I haven't heard of either thing
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 14, 2010, 21:45:24 pm
Oh yes I meant to ask what choko was.
Swede is a root vegetable a bit like a turnip but round. It is also similar to a potato once peeled and cooked.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 14, 2010, 21:51:29 pm
Kind of like a rutabaga?  Does it have purple on it and taste a little peppery?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 14, 2010, 21:54:03 pm
I had never heard the term rutabaga but I looked it up and yes apparently what we in the UK call swede you in the US call rutabaga. How did that happen I wonder? LOL.
I also looked up chocko on google and apparently it is similar to a cucumber with one fat end...
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 14, 2010, 22:05:49 pm
I had never heard the term rutabaga but I looked it up and yes apparently what we in the UK call swede you in the US call rutabaga. How did that happen I wonder? LOL.
I also looked up chocko on google and apparently it is similar to a cucumber with one fat end...

Isn't that funny...being on here has lead me to scratch my head a few times in wonder on how some words got to where they are!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on September 14, 2010, 22:41:24 pm
oh both good ideas re: the chicken!

A choko os a rather bland green looking round thing...itd in season over here in Aus. Its  a very safe vegetable to eat allergy and intolerance wise, it will be his "green".  I have never cookeed with it before, it is a substitute for apple sometimes too.   Green french beans are the oter safe food, but i was wondering how he could possibly eat those?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 14, 2010, 22:50:52 pm
I found green beans little tough at first because there's a grinding or chewing needed even when they're soft so I would blend them and add them to mashed potatoes for the first little bit.  I would add egg yolks to the mixture and make flat patties and bake them on parchment paper in the oven and then DS could hold them and they fell apart really great.  I know you're dealing with losts of intolerances, so maybe you could chop them really fine and hand your LO the little bits until he can pick them up off the tray or deal with bigger pieces?  Once DS started 'chewing' with his back gums he could handle them whole.  Soemtimes he would hide them in his cheeks to chew on later and I would wonder what the heck he was eating and find beans in his mouth!  Little chipmunk ;)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Edesanja on September 15, 2010, 09:22:54 am
Joining in.

J is almost 6 months and we are on day 5 of solids here. We did kumara (sweet potato) for the first 3 days and pumpkin today and we also did 2 meals for the first time today. He seems to be having a great time, but gets a bit frustrated when the piece gets too small for him to be able to hold properly! I know some is going in, but it's not a lot at this early stage.

I basically did BLW with DD - I started spoon feeding her purees but because of reflux she wasn't keen - she really wanted to be in control of what went in her mouth so we ended up mostly doing BLW before I had even heard of it.

Boy had I forgotten how messy it is!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 15, 2010, 11:42:36 am
Eloise with BLW a lot of food only gets gummed and sucked, so the more juicy it is the better. This is the same for meat, if you cut strips of meat with the grain they can hold it and suck it and get protein from the juices. Obviously you need to make sure the meat isn't over cooked and leathery or pink and about to run off your plate (I hate 'rare' meat personally) I'm only just getting the hang of getting meat tender and chicken I find the hardest as I am so paranoid about salmonella!
 BLW is ideal for babies with intolerances as their GI tracts are more sensitive, so BLW will allow their bodies to adjust naturally and over time. It took my DD's body over a year to get to grips with grapes, raisins and dried apricots!

True BLW is about offering them food in both it's raw and cooked state, I didn't bother with that. But it is about letting them do it at their pace, some babies can take months to actually eat anything, others (like my DD) are gluttonous pigs from the out set! Definitely use this to complement the milk feeds, I found within weeks of starting she actually cried for solids, but like I said she was a little pig! I'm not sure DS will be quite such a breeze!

It is fun, but it is also VERY messy! I still look back at photos of DD and chuckle. I think we should start a BLW photo gallery? What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 15, 2010, 21:17:48 pm
I think we should start a BLW photo gallery? What do you reckon?
Oh that would be so funny. We could guess the mess!
I used to think DS was hardly eating anything but then saw lots of bits of undigested pepper, mushroom, corn etc. in the poop and was surprised how much was actually getting into him.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 15, 2010, 22:43:44 pm
Argh!  I had such a mess tonight!!!  I made a quinoa salad and it had lots of veggies in it so DS could pick those out but the quinoa itself got EVERYWHERE!!!  Blech.  I agree a BLW photo gallery would be fun.  I don't have a lot of pics, but I could take some!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on September 16, 2010, 01:45:19 am
I think we should start a BLW photo gallery?
I'm in - except I don't know how??? How do you add a picture to your post?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 16, 2010, 02:25:45 am
I'm in!!

You have to use the blue reply button not the quick reply. Then click additional options at the bottom.  It will drop down your options and you will see attach: choose file, click that and upload through your my pictures or however you normally do it

The pick is of me and the kids, just testing to make sure I was telling you the right way.  (don't pay attention to me no makeup and my hair is a fright!!  :-X)

Oh and you have to resize the photo first
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on September 16, 2010, 03:18:44 am
Sarah you are gorgeous just as I pictured you for some reason... curling blondish hair!  Your kids are gorgeous too!

here's one of my boys
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on September 16, 2010, 03:20:49 am
Notice Ds1 with the baby orange sippy because Ds2 was having one if his first turns at using the baby cup, and he wanted a baby cup too!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 16, 2010, 03:24:27 am
I love it Eloise!  El grabbed Ry's sippy today too...they are just moving so fast!!
Yep..blonde and curly that's me!!  I thought I would have one blondie, but with DH's black hair I had no chance.  They are kind of golden brown right now
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 16, 2010, 03:30:42 am
Oh Eloise-I also forgot to tell you that last night we had steak on the grill.  I gave a chunk to Elise and she was going crazy!!  SHe sucked it dry and was really working it in her mouth.  It was  a ribeye  steak so it was very tender and I cooked it a little more than mid rare...Just thought I would share so you had an idea about meats and things :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 16, 2010, 08:39:03 am
Sarah I wish I looked that bad without any make up on!!!

So here it is, the BLW photo gallery:

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178354.new#new

I've been threatening to post these photos of DD for AGES, I forget there was actually a photo gallery on here.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on September 16, 2010, 20:57:34 pm
A great thread and some lovely pictures.

I've tried to upload some pictures but even after resizing it says they're too big... Giving up now but will try again another time.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on September 16, 2010, 21:00:10 pm
I love the pics!!!!  Super cute.

I have been reading along, but not posting.  DD has not been doing to well, loves eating but it does not seem to agree with her!!!  She has not been herself, not sleeing well, so yesterday we had a solid free day and she STTN so I'm not sure what was bothering her.  She was also getting a big red spot on the side of her face and head while eating and after fore a few hours and face rashes but I thought the rash was maybe teething???  ANyways I will continue to follow along and hope to re start soon!!!

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 16, 2010, 21:17:33 pm
Are you on facebook Sophie because that site automatically makes the pics smaller. I always just add them from facebook to save myself the trouble.
I have a new bib for DS. It is a Tommee Tippee one that is bendy plastic with a pouch at the bottom so any dropped food gets caught in there instead of on the floor/highchair. It is so funny watching DS look in there and decide what piece of dropped food he wants and then try to fish it out. Saves on the wastage and mess a little too.

What were you feeding her Mary? I find DS gets a contact rash/red blotches from some foods on his skin around his mouth. Tomatoes are one culprit and anything acidic. It goes quickly though and he doesn't seem bothered by it.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on September 16, 2010, 21:30:40 pm
Thanks Cadie's mum. I am on Facebook, so will try that if the pictures are up there.

I've also got the Tommee Tippee bib. Not the super rigid one but the more flexible one. It's great now that DD picks the food out of it. I know feeding time is over when she pulls it up over her head, though!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 16, 2010, 21:38:24 pm
Yes we have the flexible one you can roll up. I guess it is more rubbery than plastic. LOL pulling it up on the head. DS hasn't learnt that trick yet.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on September 16, 2010, 21:57:36 pm
I have given her pear, banana, peaches, squash, peas.  DS used to get the rash when he ate plum and gat hives when he ate cranberries.  It is the sleep I was most concerned about I think we will restart in a few days.  Maybe Monday. 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 16, 2010, 21:58:16 pm
Are you on facebook Sophie because that site automatically makes the pics smaller. I always just add them from facebook to save myself the trouble.
I have a new bib for DS. It is a Tommee Tippee one that is bendy plastic with a pouch at the bottom so any dropped food gets caught in there instead of on the floor/highchair. It is so funny watching DS look in there and decide what piece of dropped food he wants and then try to fish it out. Saves on the wastage and mess a little too.

What were you feeding her Mary? I find DS gets a contact rash/red blotches from some foods on his skin around his mouth. Tomatoes are one culprit and anything acidic. It goes quickly though and he doesn't seem bothered by it.

I have been finding this too with some of the fruit I give EL

Thanks for the menu on the Pic board Cadies' mum, I forgot I should have asked here ::)

So yes, until I know what I should do about the suspect wheat, I have not offered her anything that was not a fruit, veg, or meat.  I am going to try an egg though.  I may just give her a little bread before going to the Dr. that way if she does react the Dr. will see it..what do you think?  Bad idea to give it?  Oh and we are dairy/soy free right now so that also cuts down on what I am giving her :(
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 16, 2010, 22:11:56 pm
Hmmm...what about fish Sarah? DS likes salmon, tuna and white fish like cod and sole. And lentils or beans or rice? Quinoa is a good one too. And cous cous. And DS likes mushrooms too.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 17, 2010, 02:41:35 am
I think she would like the fish.  I was not sure when she would be able to get the other grains in her mouth.  She is just 6mo
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 17, 2010, 10:42:13 am
You can stick the grains together with a little puree to make sticky lumps/balls that they can grab. Might she be able to handle that?  And I made some lentil cakes by adapting a version of a recipe someone gave me on here.
Just remember DS likes flap jacks too and I eat them as the oats help my supply stay up.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on September 17, 2010, 12:26:46 pm
Mary, peaches, squash, cranberries and plums are high in salicylates.  Both your LOs *may* have a salicylate sensitivity.  Ds2 certainly does, we will only be introducing low salicylate foods for now, until we can determine his tolerance.  DH as a child was sensitive to them and used to develope contact rashes a swelling around his mouth when  he ate them mainly strawberries, mango and passionfuit - all high to very high in sals.   Its real pain to only do 'low' sals, basically you can only give pears for fruit and swede, green beans, mung beans, bamboo shoots, cabbages, kidney beans, lentils, shallots, choko, white peeled potato for lows.  She may be able to tolerate moderate salicylates - they are things like sweet potato, pumpkin, delicious apples, peas, asparagus just to name a few.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 17, 2010, 13:04:41 pm
I had no idea there were so many food sensitivities until my little miss elise came along!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 17, 2010, 15:35:29 pm
But you've got to let her off because she is just too GORGEOUS!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 17, 2010, 20:52:54 pm
OHHH Thanks...I think she is!  I am hoping she has the lovely curls that you and your DD have.  My sister has hair that curly and mine is more of a heavy wave than a curl.

Well, I did not have th guts to tell the Ped that we are doing BLW.  She is young and was really good about their reflux, not old school wait it out.  But, I just don't think the BLW would have flown.  Mostly bc when I was explaining about how DD had reached for DS's toast and that is how the wheat thing came up.  She was kind of like Ya right, and started saying something about how it works out best for them to not have those types of food until they are 7-8mo. (meaning finger foods).  She also thinks bc there is no family history, it may have been coincidental, and honestly, it may have been.  She poped a tooth that day and she very easily could have had a teething rash (it was a lot like heat rash, not hives)   So I think I may give her some pasta again to try before I go into full whole grain bread again.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 17, 2010, 21:45:41 pm
I got a lot of negativity about BLW, she'll choke was the favourite. The worse time was from four months old 'she needs a little extra' yeh, she got it, from me!!!
 My HV was very good when I told her my plans. In fact she was telling a mum on Wednesday about the stages of gloop, weaning and mentioned BLW, so I said yay it's fab. The hv actually said 'she's the lady to talk to about that!' I explained it briefly, they didn't look convinced!

It's something you need to establish before some people accept it!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on September 17, 2010, 22:06:27 pm
I mentioned it to MIL and she just could not believe it...her big thing was "aren't you ascared she will choke" and I said no and even if she does, I worked at Children's hopsitals for how many years?  I am pretty sure I know what to do if she does choke!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on September 18, 2010, 16:04:57 pm
My father was the most nervous, especially when he babysat DS and had to give him lunch.  My mom said until DS finished everything my dad was really on edge!  LOL!  I admit, I was a bit nervous at first too (Marsha, you really helped make me feel better about it just reading your posts on here!), but when I saw how well he would react in terms of getting food back out using his hands or coughing big stuff back out, I felt so much better.  They have such a good gag reflex and once they know what they can handle, it's amazing to watch them go for it!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 18, 2010, 16:10:45 pm
We were at the pub today for lunch with some friends we only see once every few months and they were quite surprised that DS was chomping on duck breast, big pieces of red cabbage, chips and mushrooms. They kept saying "Ooo isn't that piece a bit big?" looking all scared. I had to explain that he was going to hold it and suck or bite bits off not swallow it whole! They asked if I'd brought a jar too and I was like "nah he'll just have what we're having". (apart from the bread and butter pudding with custard of course, that was all mummy's!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on September 18, 2010, 22:17:08 pm
Stefanie I'm glad I helped reassure you. I've learnt that babies deserve a lot more respect than we credit them for. People are too quick to 'baby' them when all they want is to do it themselves, especially with feeding! I used to love watching S eat, I still do, when it's not being thrown!

Cadies mum I pride myself in having never bought any baby food ever, long may it continue! There aren't many 9 month olds that eat duck breast ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on September 18, 2010, 23:01:03 pm
There aren't many 9 month olds that eat duck breast
True. It was mine, I just cut a big chunk off, so was the red cabbage. The chips and mushrooms were DH's.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 11, 2010, 19:45:42 pm
Hi everyone!  I just started my lo on solids on Sunday,  and I've just come across BLW.  I started with the typical rice cereal, but I think I'd like to try BLW.  I think it sounds like it goes well with the BW approach of watching cues, and respecting baby etc.  DS has been holding the spoon as I feed him, and I think he'd really enjoy feeding himself.  I'd like to know how to begin, and I'm concerned about how to pitch it to DH.  He wonders why I always want to do things differently than everyone else (ex.  He wanted me to put cereal in bottles to help him sleep (I bf!!) , wonders why we don't use a paci, and why I don't let DS CIO).  The biggest concern is choking.  I told DH that no matter what age a child is, there is a possibility they will choke when they are eating solids. I have read that blw babies gag a lot too.  I've just been surfing the web today trying to find out info about all of this.  I don't have a lot of time because we just moved to a new place last Thursday, and I am still unpacking!! I know- not the right time to be starting something new like solids, but there never seems to be a "right time"!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 11, 2010, 22:14:56 pm
Hi Amy, so glad you've found BLW ;D

Choking is LESS likely in babies weaned this way, they tend to gag excessively which looks and sounds quite alarming! A babies gag reflex is a lot further forward than ours which teaches them how far to shove food, fingers, toys and anything else they can get their paws on in their mouths!
 When I weaned DD this way the only food she properly choked on was cooked carrots, as it's quite slippery and a little bit got stuck. She was sat in my lap and working it out, I was about to do back slaps when she got it out. I didn't give carrot again for a while!!!

The best thing is to start with him in your lap and just sit him in front of some simple stick shaped or chunky food. Broccoli is a brilliant first food as it isn't big and lumpy, they get quite a mouthful that just disintegrates. Although don't over cook it or it falls apart too easily. Tomatos (seeds removed, saves on mess) and cucumber wedges are good as are boiled potatos. Avoid soft bread as it gets quite doughy and stuck in the roof of the mouth, but lightly toasted is good.

If you want to read on BLW Gil Rapley has written a book called BLW, helping your baby to love good food. It answered all my questions although I became very anti purée after reading it! Buy it for your DH, that'll persuade him.

Be warned though BLW is EXTREMELY messy, but fun and very lazy! No mushing, spoon feeding, pulverising to be seen, just watch the salt you add to your food and you all eat the same ;D

I'll be starting DS in a month*sniff* I can't believe he's nearly five months already! They grow too fast!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 12, 2010, 03:31:27 am
grrrrr...had an awsome post for you and lost it!!!!!

here is one link you may like
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=92560.0

Here is another:
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178354.0

So I was just saying how I too read the book and agree it makes you really rethink purees.  I can proudly say I will never have a jar of babyfood in my house ever again!

You can pitch it to DH on the cost level.  bc you are giving LO the same food you are eating, there is no extra money spent on fancy jar foods.  And you can tell him if he has all sorts of extra time and would like to make the purees himself, you will be more than happy to give them to DS :)

You can also use me as an example.  DS was fed like "normal" and now at 19mo will eat almost nothing.  Although after watching his sister eat everything, he has started to try more things.  THis is due to the fact that they are not experiencing the texture and reall taste of food if you use purees.  It has taken him a long time to eat anything that is not totally smooth or super crispy as that  is the only 2 textures they really get the "normal" way.

Did I mention the book is a super fast read, and honestly there is a big chunk you will not have to read?

The choking is honestly not even a consideration.  I worried in the beginning and hovered over her.  But honestly she gags but gets most everything out herself.  In the beginning I pulled a few things out that were sticking out of her mouth but in retrospect it was not necessary.  The important thing in the beginning (according to BLW book) is not to put things into their mouth, but let them work out how to pick it up and get it there themselves.  I was shocked that after just a few days DD could pick up a banana and avocado all by herself!!

I wrote more, but I forgot now  Sorry I am kind of out of sorts tonight.

I say start doing it and then let DH see how well it is going.  My DH likes that we are forward thinking and I am willing to try new things that might benefit the babies more.

Oh, we started on very ripe juicy fruit with a skin.  Ripe plums, nectarines, peaches, that sort of thing.  Leave the skin on, it gives them something to hold and then they just suck the fruit right off the skin and DD ditches it over the side.  I have found a bebe pod (or bumbo) on the kitchen table helps with the mess.  It is also a good seat for them bc it tilts them forward (gravity is their friend in the beginning when the big bits need to come back out)

Good luck!  It is so nice to jsut give her what I am eating....she eats it all now after just 1 month...even steak and chicken!



Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 12, 2010, 03:33:03 am
as you can see DD is very serious about her food  ;D

I just noticed her furrowed brow in both pics too funny...she LOVES to eat!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 12, 2010, 03:41:51 am
Thanks for the help ladies! I will check into the book and the links.  BLW sounds great to me.  Why make more work for myself blending everything.  He is really independent and wants to do it all himself anyhow- so I figure let him give it a try.  I'll work on DH.  He usually lets me have my way on the baby stuff even though he thinks I am nutty sometimes lol!  I love the pics btw!  I have a bumbo with a tray already, so I guess I'm all set.  I will prob try next week once I get through the book.  I'll have to check Amazon to see if I can get it for my Kindle so I can read it right away.  I'll keep you all posted!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 12, 2010, 17:01:44 pm
I keep cut up veggies in the fridege and then can steam them as needed to keep prep work at a minimum.  I also freeze little flattened meatballs and mashed potatoe patties (mashed potatoes mixed with ground flax seeds, eggs, spices and other veggies and then baked at  350 C for 20 minutes).  DS still loves those.  I love seeing him dive into 'strange' foods :)  The only thing that caused some gagging for us was apple.  I now just peel a whole apple and give it to DS vs. wedges and he goes to town without being able to get huge chunks off.

Good luck!  DH was a bit hestitant when we started but keeps telling me how glad he is we went the BLW route!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 14, 2010, 00:48:48 am
So I was able to convince dh we should give it a try tonight at dinner.  We had pork, asparagus, and rice.  T had asparagus, pork, and a peach.   He made really funny faces when he tried the food.  The pork got tossed across the room, and the peach was squished to death.  He was a mess bur had a ball!  Dh was not impressed.  I'm not entirely sure what he thinks it is supposed to look Luke when babies learn to eat.  I think he is just tired of me doing things differently from the norm.  I reminded him I'm just progressive and choosing the best options for our child.  They just don't happen to be the norm.  I guess I should just be happy that he goes along with it all.  What did you Give your lo for breakfast at the beginning?  Most of my carbs are high fiber foods which the book said to try to limit.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 14, 2010, 02:15:51 am
I do banana with toast or a few cheerios or some oatmeal with some other fruit.

El loves asparagus! She likes the tops bc they come off in her mouth nicely.

Keep trying...they get the hang of it quick
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 14, 2010, 15:56:24 pm
I do cream of wheat, oatmeal, hard boiled eggs, toast, fruit, muffins, smoothies... (obviously not all on the same day!!!).  I give fruit every day and then either a cereal or an egg or toast with the fruit. 
I understand about the mess...  DS is finally getting cleaner.  I got pretty strict once he started throwing things on the floor on purpose.  But now we're doing lots of spoon and fork practice, so the floor is a mess once again :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 14, 2010, 19:48:07 pm
Keep trying...they get the hang of it quick

I completly agree with Sarah on this one! I thought Myla was never going to understand BLW, and out of nowhere and me giving it to her everymeal, she fiqured it out. Now she won't even look at mush and wants all the big peices! We do toast with jam for breakfast with some puffed rice, and egg yolk for lunch with some steamed green beans and some chicken or ground beef. Supper is whatever we are eating..but she loves loves spagetti!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 14, 2010, 22:37:31 pm
Also wanted to mention that DS did better when he had less on his tray at a time.  One or two items at once worked well at first.  Any more and he would start dropping stuff (maybe he was overwhelmed...)  Now I can give him a whole plate of dinner so it took about 4 months or so to work up to.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 15, 2010, 09:48:55 am
I didn't give DD breakfast as such for ages, she had her first solids around 1030 so it was just a snack really.

I reminded him I'm just progressive and choosing the best options for our child.  They just don't happen to be the norm.

Amy tell your DH that this is TOTALLY the norm for just about half the planet! It's only the so called 'civilised' nations that 'mush' everything, and most of that is driven by the big commercial companies!

Oh and if he wants to see mess check this out  ;D

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178354.0

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 16, 2010, 18:45:44 pm
Hey all-
Just a question from those of you who BTDT

Yesterday morning I gave El some oatmeal for the first time she loved it and got quite a few handfuls in her mouth.  She then refused to BF almost all day long!!  I did not give her more solids until she took a full BF, but that was not until almost 5.  She did take 2 super tiny feeds on one side each time.
She then of course woke twice last night to BF...HUGE feeds.

Should I just avoid oatmeal?  or is this some sort of transition I need to worry about?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 16, 2010, 23:36:54 pm
Hard to know... maybe try other foods and see if it's the same and give oatmeal a break.  I know it's pretty filling, but not that filling!!  Maybe someone else has a better thought?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 17, 2010, 01:53:20 am
Following along... I've been doing a combination of puree and finger foods, but recently Ellen has started refusing the mush. I need some more good ideas for finger foods and more motivation to cook ::) ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 17, 2010, 02:19:20 am
Sarah I never gave oatmeal so can't help sorry.

Megan any food is good in its natural shape, broccoli, cauliflower, potatoes, tomato & cucumber wedges are all winners. x

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 17, 2010, 02:28:43 am
Yeah, I'll give her just about anything and she will eat just about anything, but the problem is I don't cook much for myself and DH and I don't have much variety of foods on hand b/c we always end up eating the same old easy stuff. I could chalk it up to being pregnant and exhausted, but really I think I'm lazy.  :-\ That and DH never seems to like what I make so it's very discouraging to cook for him. And like I said, Ellen will eat almost anything, but she never eats much of anything at all, so it's hard to find motivation to prepare foods for these people ::)

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 17, 2010, 02:40:24 am
Megan-I have made finger food things and put them in the freezer in small portions and then just warmed them for EL.
I make hand sized meat things and I also do a lot with sliced fruit and avocado.  I make a small portion of pasta and then keep it in a ziplock in the firdge and put a little sauce on it just before I give it to them.  I also do things that can have leftovers and that is what the baby and I eat the next day.

I also roast a bunch of veggies and keep it in the fridge.  This may be a way to let your Ellen try stuff without your DH having to eat it.   I give her pretty much every root veggie and she loves them all.

The big fav in our house is roasted chicken with potatoes, carrrots, rutabaga, sweet potatoes roasted in the same pan.  I do leg 1/4 (leg and thigh) because the meat is juicier and EL loves it!!

So take a baking dish, cut your veggies into the bottom toss with a little EVOO, salt, pepper, then place the chicken 1/4 on top I put a little salt and pepper on that too.  put about a cup of water in the pan, cover with foil, bake at 425 for 30min, take off foil and bake for 30 more min.  You can turn the chicken but you don't have to.  If you want crispier skin and veggies, don't cover with foil. 

El will eat that for every meal if I let her!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 17, 2010, 02:49:45 am
Thanks, that sounds great! I'll try it!

And BTW, I'm not here to complain about cooking and such, I know that's not what this thread is about. I want to follow along b/c you all seem to have so much fun with it and I think hearing all your experiences and ideas will motivate me and make me see it can be fun!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 17, 2010, 02:51:40 am
Sarah that sounds yummy!!!

Megan BLW makes you become more adventurous in the kitchen! Maybe your DH should do the cooking instead!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 17, 2010, 15:31:59 pm
Sarah- that does sound yummy!  I'm not much of a cook- but I can handle that recipe!  

I haven't introduced any carbs yet- other than the rice cereal I had him on for a few days before I found out about BLW.  I'm trying to avoid common allergens since T had some food interolerances through my breastmilk.  I am avoiding wheat, eggs, dairy, nuts, fish, shellfish, and corn.  Do you think he would eat rice cereal if I just put some on his tray?  I am already finding bits of food in his poo- fun times!  He is really liking bananas!  I have to say, he loves when it is time to eat.  He gets excited to be in his seat because he knows it's time to eat!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 17, 2010, 15:42:26 pm
Marsha - yeah, I do let him do a lot of cooking. We're usually both so tired at the end of the day that we just do simple stuff like spaghetti. And that's really my only sit down meal of the day but it's usually after she's in bed  :-\ She's starting to go to bed a bit later though, so I'll just start making dinner a little earlier I think. I think I'm just going to have to start cooking and if he wants it he can eat it and if not, he can find something for himself... :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on October 17, 2010, 18:08:55 pm
Well we were not really planning on BLW but it turns out DD has other ideas. After a few days she was grabbing the spoon off us and feeding herself (albeit very messily!). Now she is having a lovely time with pieces of banana and pear and just tried bread to suck.
I'm veggie (since aged 9!) but want DD to have meat in  her diet-just nervous as have never cooked meat (other than sausages and burgers etc). Am going to make DH be the 'tester' for everything! Is chicken a good one to start with?

Will be looking for tips from all you ladies!

Ruth
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 17, 2010, 19:25:03 pm
Amy, dry rice cereal doesn't sound too appealing to me...  Could you do puffed rice cereal instead?  I know our local health food store has puffed quinoa, barley, millet, rice, etc.  It can be hard to handle even in that form, so mixing some up in mashed potatoes works well (sounds kind of gross, but if you don't overdo the cereal and put in some spice it tastes pretty good and has a nice texture...)

Ruth, chicken is an easy meat to deal with but if you're nervous about it, why not try fish?  White fish, like talapia, in packets with some thin sticks of veggies with some olive oil and spice (and orange slices for flavour- mmmm!) are really easy to prep and you can freeze the left overs for later.  And the fish breaks apart really easy.  Chicken can be a bit harder to chew/gum at the beginning in my experience, unless you go for ground chicken which is super easy to form into patties and fry up on the stove and freeze to keep on hand.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: MummyToBen on October 17, 2010, 19:27:25 pm
Ruth - other things that my DS loved at this age were stews and cassroles - cooked for ages so that meat is really tender and practically falls apart in their mouth.  Loads of iron and protein too, and easy to make a big batch and then freeze it. 

xx
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 17, 2010, 20:39:59 pm
DH and I normally eat after Cadan is in bed too so I just save a baby-sized portion for Cadan to have the next day.
We did blackberries for the first time today and Cadan loved them. His face was a picture. I wish I had taken some photos. They were quite sharp and he realised a few seconds after stuffing the whole thing in his mouth, I could see it in his face. He ate 5 so I'd say they were a hit. Good thing too as I had sent DH to the shop for blueberries (which are a favourite already) but apparently they didn't have any so balckberries it was.
I use baby stock to make casseroles with various meat and veg combos. We have a slow cooker which makes the meat really tender, lamb is the best IMO.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 18, 2010, 15:35:32 pm
Yeah, the rice cereal wasn't a big hit when I was spooning it to him.  It is processed so that it is like a powder that you mix with your breastmilk or formula.  I think it would be too runny for him to eat on his own- but I have the rest of the box, and a box of oatmeal too.  I hate to waste it.  I'll try mixing the rice with mashed potatoes.  That sounds like it would be fine.  DH is traveling most of the week, so I will be preparing meals for just DS and myself.

Cadie's mum- It is so fun to see their faces when they try new foods.  Timmy's best face was when he had asparagus- one of his first foods.  He was making the funniest face, and quivering his whole body- but he kept putting back in his mouth!  I wish I had a picture or video of it!  I'll have to take some pictures while he is eating.  DH took a pic with his phone of DS eating an apple.  It's pretty funny because the apple is almost as big as his head!

Question- Do you peel the skin off of the fruits like apples?  I bit a piece off for him to gnaw at, but he has teeth, and has been biting the skin off in other places. 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 18, 2010, 15:53:07 pm
I peel apples and plums, but leave the skin on pears and peaches.  It's probably personal preference more than anything.  Just make sure to wash them well if you leave them on :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 20, 2010, 16:31:02 pm
I am going to try to post a few pics of T eating!
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Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 20, 2010, 16:33:51 pm
OK it worked!  That last pic shows the face he makes when he tries a new food!  Cracks me up!  Here are some more!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 20, 2010, 23:35:12 pm
Awwww :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 21, 2010, 00:25:35 am
Those pics are adorable!!

Ellen has gone from eating a little of anything to not even being willing to taste what I put in front of her. Sometimes she will taste it if I put it in her mouth for her but usually not even then. Don't know what's going on?? Even things she used to like she won't eat now. ???
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 21, 2010, 05:37:25 am
Hey Megan how long has she been fussy? Is she teething at all? They go through feast & famine stages just keep offering, she may just not want it right now!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 21, 2010, 16:50:35 pm
I agree with marsha.  Teething can do weird things to eating.  I'm pretty sure we've got some going on here.  DS shovels the food in and then looks at me a cries but keeps wanting to put more in his mouth!!!??  He still eats, but seems to be more careful about it, iykwim.  Maybe you can stick with softer foods for now, like mashed potatoes and really well-steamed fruits and veggies?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on October 24, 2010, 18:40:47 pm
Be very proud ladies.... I cooked a chicken yesterday for the first time ever!! Big deal for a veggie! Of course, DD wouldn't even pick any up! Oh well, she will *click* eventually wont she?? Currently refusing spoon and pretty much anything else but occasional bit of bread. Very hard to resist Mummy urge to try and persuade her to eat more!! I'm not bothered about quantities but would like to feel that something is actually going in!

Ruth
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 24, 2010, 23:22:07 pm
Hugs, Ruth!  Good job on cooking the chicken though!!!  Freeze it in small bite sized portions so you can try again in a day or so.  Yes, it can take awhile to 'click' so hang in there.  There's always lots of drama surrounding eating, so staying calm about it all will help!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on October 25, 2010, 02:10:18 am
Be very proud ladies.... I cooked a chicken yesterday for the first time ever!!
:) :) :) good for you! my lo didn't like chicken or any meat the first many, many, many times i offered it, but now she loves rotisserie chicken - so like Stefanie says - just keep offering!

my lo is also very independent - a week ago she refused to eat anything unless we gave her a "big people" fork and spoon - thank goodness that only lasted a few days cuz it was a pain! back to eating with her own spoon and fingers. :)



Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 25, 2010, 02:21:50 am
Good for you Ruth!!

Thanks for the suggestions/encouragement ladies. I don't think it's teething... still no sign of them. Still not sure why she won't eat, but she's now totally refusing mush and the only type of food she seems to eat are bread products. Crackers, toast, cheerios, etc. Oh well... ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 25, 2010, 11:31:02 am
Hugs, Megan.  Keep offering other stuff with the bread products, or spread some fruit puree or hummus on the crackers.  DS got into hummus that way and tried goat cheese out one day too on some toast.  French toast or pancakes might be a good idea.  That way she can get some egg and you can add stuff like apple sauce to the pancake mix.  I dip french toast in oats to give it something a little extra too.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 25, 2010, 13:07:16 pm
Hm those are great ideas! I usually do some kind of spread but so far have only tried jelly or cream cheese but those others sound much healthier - especially more so than jelly!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 25, 2010, 13:15:59 pm
Hey everyone!  Does catfood count a finger food?  JK!  My lo is not quite crawling, but is turning in circles on his belly.  I've caught him a few times now as he was about to eat the cat food!  :o :o
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 25, 2010, 13:25:29 pm
lol that's cute. glad you caught him!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 25, 2010, 13:34:08 pm
Hahaha!!  Dry or wet?  Wet cat food seems a lot more appealing but hey, he'll have glossy hair, right :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 25, 2010, 15:30:55 pm
And healthy teeth ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 25, 2010, 15:33:43 pm
Ryan was too quick...he got into the dog food several times and would squirrel it in his cheek on me!  I would not have freaked out too much, but we had the "large breed" kind and they were the size of marbles!!   
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on October 25, 2010, 19:12:33 pm
LOL DS got int the dog food more then once when he was a babe.....I think he actually ate some once, but could not be 100% sure  ;)


Alright we are back on the band wagon!  Have been for a while, but have not been online too much latey :P

Was wondering about monitoring what los put into their mouths.....My DD will take a steamed carrot, take small bites and chew, but not swallow and then repeat until her mouth is close to full and start gagging and spit it all out.  Should i cut it into small finger pincher peices or just let her deal with it?  Anyone else's los do this?

Also what kind of cracker do you guys give?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 25, 2010, 19:35:33 pm
Cadan loves pitta bread dipped in houmous. And the flavoured bread sticks. Ella's kitchen do orange and pear flavour ones.
I cut most things into bite sized pieces and give him 2 pieces at a time. H just recently started saying "mmar" when he wants more. So cute.
Cadan also head straight for the cat food and also eats any thing on the floor such as pieces of fluff or carpet or any food he has dropped that I missed. I am constantly fishing something out of his mouth.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 25, 2010, 20:41:54 pm
Hehe I took Ellen out of the high chair a bit too early the other day and she went around the floor gathering up all her dropped cheerios and eating them!!

Re: crackers, I give her unsalted saltines, *occasionally* goldfish if I have them, graham crackers, and the other day MIL had some cookies that are called Maria's Galletas and they are very mild and the ingredients very good so I give her those too. They're kinda like shortbread cookies, but not quite as sweet. Basically anything that's not too sweet or too salty.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 25, 2010, 20:54:54 pm
Glad I'm not the only one with a kiddo looking for food on the floor!  Dry cat food btw.  Our cats aren't loved enough to get wet cat food lol!  Haven't given any crackers yet.  Still avoiding wheat just in case of allergy.  We are doing mostly meat, fruits, and veggies.  He is not too excited about the veggies.  Only seems to ingest the "sweeter" ones like carrots and sweet potatoes.  Meat gets tossed onto the floor almost immediately.  Takes after his mom- only likes fruits!  ::)  I'm hoping he'll develop a taste for the rest as I keep offering him everything.  I offer the fruit last too, hoping he'll get adventurous and eat his broccoli- but no.  I am a little hesitant to give lettuce and grapes.  I know I'm supposed to cut the grapes in half, but I still worry it might get stuck.  Tried pineapple today- he loved it (of course!)  I have also been giving him the mushy rice cereal and oatmeal I had originally bought before I found out about BLW.  I load a spoon for him and he puts it in.  It's really the only carbs he gets since I am avoiding wheat.  I've given him rice pasta, but it just winds up everywhere but in his mouth!  It is really nice to be able to just give him what we are eating.  I picked up a salad since we were out, and just gave him some of the large chunks from it.  So convenient!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 26, 2010, 01:31:12 am
timmysmommy - I don't give lettuce either. I probably won't until she's quite a bit older. Another carb you could give him is rice... it's messy, but he might like it. It's one of the few things Ellen will eat these days. She did try a piece of broccoli today though and chewed it for a while but it was too hard (it was the stem) and she ended up spitting it out. You could also cut the grapes into quarters the long way if you really want to give him grapes (and have the time!!) that way even if he swallowed them whole they probably wouldn't get stuck.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 26, 2010, 02:02:13 am
We worked at broccoli for awhile.  El just did not like the texture. Now she will munch both ends happily.  Her fave is asparagus though!  She also loves green peas. I buyy frozen ones and zap them for about 45sec and use those to give me some time to cut something up if I don't have something made. 

I give El salad and I was suprised that she liked it!  But there is not much she won't eat.  She is like our little garbage can! 

I realized the other day she may be eating too much solids.  The BLW book said give them until they stop. But I started payying close attention to how much she was actually swallowing and it was a lot! Like a whole banana and cheerios.  Then a half a medium pear and about a bthird to a half of an avocado.  Now if her tummy is the size of her fist, she filled it atleast three times over!

What do you guys make of that?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 26, 2010, 03:50:54 am
Sarah~ We call Myla our garbage can also! haha. And I am also worried that she eats to much. For breakfast she can eat 3 egg yolks, half a pear, a peice of toast, then lunch she eats even more then her 3 year old brother! Supper is her smaller meal of the day..but she still inhales alot. She's still drinking her 7oz bottles 4 times a day, so it's not interfearing with her milk in take, but it seems like she eats an awful lot! hmm? Curious to see responses..
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on October 26, 2010, 12:57:49 pm
Usually LOs start to level out around the year mark (though I haven't experienced that yet)!  Until then, as long as the milk intake isn't being affected and you're offering a variety of fruits, veggies, protein and whole grains, let them at it :)  Unless your Dr. is concerned... DS ate waaaayyy more than a friend's 4 year old the other night when they were over for dinner.  And way more variety (everything I had made while her DD ate a bit of broccoli and maybe a spoon of chicken but later managed to get her mom to give her 2 pieces of cake!!!  Another issue there altogether I think...)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 26, 2010, 14:40:33 pm
Sarah S was a proper little dumpling by 9 months old! In fact she was only taking two proper milk feeds a day well before 1yo! It is 'baby' led weaning, let her at it! Be warned, clothes become a struggle!!! S is now fitting in clothes that were snug last Dec!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 26, 2010, 14:46:38 pm
Well, my tiny bean needs all the help she can get!  At 7mo she is just now 15lbs...DS was already over 18lbs by this time.

I guess the only reason why I was even thinking about it was a few times I was wondering if she was giving herself a tummy ache from eating too much...I suspect it is hard to tell with reflux issues going on.

BTW Marsha-Nov 7-12 I will be in your boat sans DH!!!  I am not looking forward to it at all!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 26, 2010, 14:59:07 pm
Hugs Sarah, it's horrible on your own. At least you don't have a stroppy 2yo yet!

S was on the 25th centile until 18 weeks where she struggled on to the 50th. From 27 weeks she climbed in great leaps to the 98th, where she has stayed! Enjoy her while she's tiny and delicate, solids sound like they could be a time for change!
 I see all these gorgeous fashion winter boots that would look adorable, unfortunately when we tried some we couldn't even get them on her fat little feet! Now don't get me wrong she's not a tub of lard now, she's just not skin & bone! She LOVES her food, doesn't eat any rubbish (except chocolate). In fact she wouldn't eat my cupcakes until I took the icing off!!!

She can smell chocolate from across the room though, she is her mothers daughter in that respect! So it's all hidden for special treats!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 26, 2010, 21:58:56 pm
ZOMG!! I can't believe your LOs eat so much and are so tiny!!!!!!!!  :o  :o Don't get me wrong, I think it's fabulous on both accounts!! Ellen was 14 lbs on her 2nd month birthday to put it in perspective to Sarah's 15lb 7mo!!! She's a whopping 22 lbs now and towers over every other baby under a year I've seen so far by several inches. She's as big as her 15mo cousin BOY!! And yet, I can barely get her to eat enough formula, let alone any solids!! Man I envy you guys!! How fun it would be if she would just eat!!!

BTW and along those lines, I've been wanting to get some input about that. I struggle to get 27 oz of FF into her every day - any less and I get hunger wakings. She refuses all but a few bites of solids - if that - even if I wait 3 hours from last feed before trying. I don't know whether I'm sabotaging myself by giving her so much FF, but if I don't, I'll get NW or EW for hunger... what do you all think - am I giving her too much FF and not giving her enough opportunity for solids?

She's almost 9mo.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 27, 2010, 00:58:42 am
btw Sarah - was looking at your blog pics and your babies are just so cute!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on October 27, 2010, 09:46:59 am
Hey all!  :)

Just jumping on to see if I can get ideas from you to help with DS's eating....I've done a bit of BLW with both my LO's & luckily DD is a great eater but DS (nearly 10 mo) is pretty hard work!! I've tried pieces of fruit & veges & pieces of cooked meat etc but he just pulls faces..he had a bit of puree when he was younger but never really liked it. We've also tried him on un-seasoned versions of what we eat but just spits it out. The only thing he seems to like is yoghurt (would eat it all day if he could  ::)).

I really want him to like other foods but I'm running out of ideas!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 27, 2010, 12:52:40 pm
Sianie, you and me are in the same boat!! I have noticed she does eat a *little* better if things are seasoned... she actually ate my meatloaf last night!! I was pleased as punch!! I just try not to give her things that are really heavily seasoned or have lots of chemicals/msg - not that she eats enough of anything to make a difference anyway, really ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 27, 2010, 16:18:09 pm
I use low-sodium baby stock cubes to add flavour without salt to DS's food.
Cadan hardly ate anything. I used to just feed him off my plate and not even notice. Just the last few weeks since turning 10mo he has started needing his own meal. He easily polishes off a full bowl of food for each meal now. It just came out of nowhere so I'm sure the same will happen with your LOs. He definitely eats more if I offer him a variety of foods too. When he gets sick of one I offer something else and he starts going again.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 28, 2010, 01:57:49 am
Myla is over 20 lbs now at 7 months, she was 19 lbs 6 oz at her 6 month needles, so I'm assuming she's well over the 20 lb mark now! Baker at this age was already 26 lbs..yup 26 lbs!! He was HUGE! lol, but he evened out at 1 year at 29lbs and is still only 33 lbs at the age of 3( in 7 weeks)
So I'm not to concerned about her eating to much, but compared to other babies I know, she eats like a champ, and the moms look at me strange....especially with BLW..not alot of people understand why I give my 7 month old a chicken leg to munch on at dinner..lol
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on October 28, 2010, 02:31:34 am
Well, I think DD is about 15-16lbs now.....Her brother was only that size at her age too (although to me she just seems bigger) and he is only 28lbs at 3 and has been for a long time  DD seems to eat a fair bit, but I am finding DH is giving her "inappropriate" foods  ::)  Yesterday he gave her one of those (disgusting) sour cream rings  :P And today I caught him feeding her big bites of cake off his plate!  I need to keep a closer eye on him I guess  ;)

How do you guys cook the meat?  I have been giving her mostly egg yolk and cheese for protein, and a little chicken, but not a leg! 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 28, 2010, 03:51:35 am
Megan-love the new avatar!!

Mary-The meat I give is usually slow cooked, roasted, or ground.  So roast chicken, stews, crock pot beef, meatloaf, that sort of thing.

Also just wanted to mention to Megan and Siane that a large portion of BLW is not just giving chunks of food, but the philosophy of why you let your LO feed themselves. (Hence the big chunks)  You are letting them explore food on their own terms without expectation.  This means some babies want to eat more things at 6mo, like my munchkin.  Other babes may need to explore until they are closer to a year.  (remember food before 1 is just for fun!)  So this means by giving them a variety of foods you are giving them the opportunity to decide when and how much they are going to eat.  It is the BLW phiosophy that a baby will eat what it needs if you let them eat when they want.  This leads to a healthier relationship with food later in life because they were not "forced" to eat food rather they were let to figure out how the food made them feel..ie, if I eat this my tummy feels full..if I put ALL of this in my mouth at once, I choke and I can't eat it.

This is why it is not encouraged to feed by spoon or to put chunks of food in the babies mouth if you are going to BLW.  It kind of removes the purpose of them learning about food at their own pace.

Also, I know Ellen is FF, this means that she tastes the same flavor at every meal.  So food to her is a big change and may take a little time to get used to.  BF babies get to taste food through what their mom eats (Megan-I mean no offense about your choice to FF...I know you were BF until you got preg)

The BLW book was very eye opening and a very fast read.  It took me just 2 or 3 days and I have NO spare time! 

I would say just keep offering and they will get what they need...mostly they just need to be able to experience the food often enough and before you know it they will be chomping away :)

HTH ladies...sorry so long winded
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 28, 2010, 03:53:25 am
Megan-I forgot to thank you for your comment on my babies...I think they are just adorable too :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 28, 2010, 04:11:54 am
Mary I cook all my meat as tender as possible without being pink. That's some mean feat with my rubbish cheap oven (military house) my grill has two settings, on & off! It's taken a year to master it!

I totally agree with Sarah BLW is a natural progression. S has only just started eating eggs, it was the one food she wouldn't even pick up, most odd. Oh except lettuce, but I let her off eating leaves as she eats so much otherwise!

Oh be warned Sarah a big eater = big poop! Yesterday morning S nappy was so full a big chunk fell
out on the mat when I changed her :-X I'm looking forward to her eating less and pt'ing!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 28, 2010, 04:45:41 am
Haha..yes a big eater= big poops, I agree Marsha! Myla poo's 3-4 times a day!


Well I don't really give her the whole chicken leg, her fav recipie is to put chicken in the slow cooker with carrotts and potatoes and chicken broth. Then I pour itover rice ( we put lemon dilly sauce for ours, but she's MPI) so not for her. She will gobble up a whole chicken leg at that meal.  She's our meat eater, Baker still won't touch any meat besides chicken. I also use lean ground turkey and boil it to get the fat out and then stick it in the frying pan with a lil water and season with some Mrs.Dash lemon. I've yet to find anything this girl won't eat, although I'm a little bummed about her MPI, because I think she would enjoy cheese. She watches her brother eat it and she looks like she could jump out of her chair and steal his plate.lol
I'm looking for some new breakfast ideas....lately it's been egg yolks and toast, would love to do yogurt..but unfortunatly we can't find any milk free yogurt:(
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 28, 2010, 08:56:37 am
Hi girls! Wanting to join you!! DS is 5.5 mos old, and loves puree (mostly parsnip/apple; carrot/parsnip) and would love to get him started on BLW... is it too early?! I have some parsnips and cooking apples (and getting pumpkins for cooking today!) - if I cut them into chunks and steamed until really soft, do you think that would be ok??

Marsha, is your Jack on BLW yet??

Sarah, I saw you were talking about a BLW book - which one are you reading?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on October 28, 2010, 09:38:31 am
Thanks ladies  ;)

Any suggestions on some more foods to try with DS, I'm a bit stuck?!

Hi Kim!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on October 28, 2010, 11:40:55 am
Favourite meals here are anything in a tomato based sauce, like ratatouille, meat balls in a tomato sauce and, the all time favourite, chicken casserole, whch l put a tin of tomatoes in. She loves meat balls. I make them with lamb, beef, pork or turkey. She also loves pasta shells. Have to say the Annabel Karmel ones go down well. She picks up big handfulls of them covered in tomato sauce (not ketchup of course).
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on October 28, 2010, 12:43:37 pm
Thanks Sophie!

DS has had a lot of our food & finger food (chunks of cheese, pitta bread, fruit & veg etc) but he doesn't really like putting it in his mouth...he'll pick it up & mash it on his food tray or hit his tray with a piece of carrot etc....I guess this is all part of BLW & he'll hopefully get the hang of it?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 28, 2010, 15:04:58 pm
I guess this is all part of BLW & he'll hopefully get the hang of it?
Yup!!  That is all part of it...the mess is the unfortunate part, but the more you let him play the more likely he will eat stuff in the future.

My first baby I did not BLW, I did traditional feeding and he now is the worst eater ever!!  He just now will pick new things up and put a tip of it on his tongue and make a face!  That is what led me to BLW, I did not want a repeat of him!  He still will not eat ANY meat.  I try and try and if some is ground enough in sauce it will get into him, but not by his choice.

Kim-I read Baby-led Weaning: Helping Your Baby to Love Good Food.  So insightful! It is kind of biased to no purees ever, but she does give fact and reason why you would want to avoid them.

Lisa-I feel your pain, Elise is MSPI which means we all are (she is still EBF)  I miss the casseroles I used to make and I long for a lasagna!

We are boring for breakfast. Normally fruit and toast or cherrios, or eggy toast

DS is super cute...he tried to share his cheese with his sister, I know she would have loved it but her tummy would have gone nuts!!  Yesterday he shared his peanut butter toast when I wasn't looking.  We had no reaction thankfully!  I had no interest in going to the ER at 6pm.  She loved it though and had PB all over her face

I am making a lentil stew with fall veggies for dinner tonight...DD will love it, DS probably won't touch it!!

Oh-Kim-El loves pumpkin.  I cut it into long wedges and roasted it with a little EVOO and left the skin on...then EL was able to get a good hold on it and would toss the empty rind over the side of her high chair...super cute.  I think I started her a little early around 5.5mo as I had not read the BLW book.  They recommend no solids until 6mo and then go directly to chunk food.  She was so interested in food and had already been swiping it off my plate, so I kind of thought she might be ready.

 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 28, 2010, 18:28:58 pm
Thank you, Sarah! I'm on the list to borrow it from the library!!

I bought some butternut squash, broccoli, carrots, and pumpkin from the farm today...very excited!!...but first, a highchair!

NOW. I know I'm a lazy cow, but I'm going to cover it up with my need for control: puree I can make in batches ahead of time and freeze it in portions making it easy to take out one frozen (heart shaped!) blob of puree and set it on the counter to defrost for later in the day... with BLW, is all the food cooked/softened? And if so, can you make any ahead of time? I don't really want my nanny doing it...I'd rather just make some that she feed to him later... but I work full time and don't have the time to do this! (I leave the house at 7am 3/5 mornings and dont come back until 6pm 3/5 nights...)

ANY TIPS??

(and I do encourage Jack to get involved in his puree with his hands and try to show him how to put his hands in his mouth to eat it, but oh well!)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on October 28, 2010, 19:39:12 pm
Kim-you are already doing the hard work by doing the puree part. All you have to do now is not puree!  You can prep your veggies etc. by steaming or however you cook and then just freeze whole.  Set it out the same way or zap in the micorwave for a few seconds.  You can also not steam all the way and warm and finish by putting them to steam for a few minutes.  You also can do leftovers from dinners by freezing them and serving for lunch.  I make up little meatloaf chunks kind of elongated and then bake on a cookie sheet.  After they cool I put in a ziplock and freeze.  Also, already frozen things are always easy when things are crazy.  Frozen peas are a hit with both kids...helps with the teething.

All of the things you got from the market are great BLW foods.  This is honestly easier than doing purees.  I do give El my salad to chew on really anything I eat I give to her including the spices.  For her the spicier the better...and we love spice and hot food here!  I just use a light hand with salt or skip it if I am using a lot of other flavorings.

You could also take a day and pre-make a bunch of things for your family to eat and split them into small portions and freeze.  That way everyone can enjoy homemade meals.
HTH
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 28, 2010, 19:47:56 pm
Sarah, you are a blessing!!! I've been starting to stress a little since reading all of this about weaning and what and how, etc! There is a weaning course on Wed next week, but I'm at work so I asked DH to go... and he will "try"... sigh.

I've got some time off the next few Fridays (and every Sat/Sun), so I think I'm going to give it a good bash! I liked the quote I read somewhere: before 1, food is for fun!  I think I'll try to just have some fun introducing the foods to Jack and letting him explore what to do with it.

Thank you!! I feel like a better mama!! :D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 28, 2010, 19:57:04 pm
Thanks about the avatar Sarah. And no offense taken on the FF, it's not ideal, but it's just how it is. I'm also glad you said you feed her spices and all... I think Ellen likes a bit more flavor (did I already say she ate my meatloaf the other night?!? yay!) but no one ever seems to give their babies spices so I was second guessing myself on it.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 28, 2010, 20:05:54 pm
I have heard  ofit a million times in American films etc. but what actually is meatloaf? DS loves meatballs. Is it similar just in a loaf shape? And what, other than meat, would you put in it? Is the meat minced/ground?
Lisa - DS loves pancakes. Maybe you could do some of those for breakfast? You can also sneak pureed fruit and veg into the batter for extra goodness. I do a whole batch and then freeze them cooked. Then I just heat them up in the frying pan when ready to eat them. We also do lots of fruit like blueberries, strawberries, banana, grapes, pears etc.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 28, 2010, 20:06:35 pm
Megan~ We give Myla spices! She loves them..sometimes I worry, but I usually use Mrs. Dash with no salt:)
We did BLW with our son Baker who is almost 3, and he was always a great eater until he hit about 2.5 ( which I'm sure is just his age rather then pcikiness). He will eat anything though, and I say BLW had a big part of it. He loves Oysters and always goes for sushi with me too. I'm hoping Myla follows his footsteps and will eat anything. My DH is a picky puicky eater and does not eat any meat what so ever and will nto even touch a fruit or vegetable. Needless to say we eat alot of pasta and 2 meal dinners at our house!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 28, 2010, 20:10:44 pm
Cadie's mom~ do you make milk free pancakes? Myla is MPI, and I can't find a good pancake recipie without milk.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 28, 2010, 20:19:52 pm
Oh sorry I didn't realise about the MPI Lisa. Can she do soya? Or what about oat, quinoa, coconut or rice milk? Can you just replace the milk with one of these alternatives?
Or what about these: (I haven't trie dthem myself)
http://www.bigoven.com/recipe/111631/milk-free-pancakes
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 28, 2010, 20:23:29 pm
Yes, meatloaf is a lot like meatballs. I use a pound of ground hamburger, an egg, a handful of crushed saltines, a squirt of ketchup, a squirt of Worcestershire, and then salt and whatever other spices you want. And yes, you shape it into a loaf and put it in a loaf pan (like the kind you'd use for bread). Bake it at 375 for an hour or til the pink is gone.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 28, 2010, 20:27:03 pm
Thanks Megan. I had to look up what saltines were but I'm with you now. I might just make some next week.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 28, 2010, 20:29:59 pm
my mom used to always put oatmeal flakes instead of saltine crackers.

oh how i miss saltine crackers!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 28, 2010, 20:34:46 pm
I usually put breadcrumbs in meatballs so might try that as I usually end up throwing the bread ends away.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on October 28, 2010, 20:40:57 pm
Ooo, what are they?

I always use breadcrumbs in meatballs etc too...
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 28, 2010, 20:56:15 pm
Ooo, what are they?
Are you talking about saltine crackers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltine_cracker
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on October 29, 2010, 03:50:17 am
So we have gone mad with meat! lol DD had pork and salmon today!  Tended to pocket the salmon in her cheek, but it eventually got all the way down  ;) 

I use breadcrumbs in my meatloaf (not that I make it often) and my MIL uses rice in hers.  We made some amazing pulled pork sandwiches today (new recipe and it worked well) and tommorrow I am making gyros with chicken.  I given Aven all the spices, just dont add salt when I cook.  I use epicure spices alot which are low or no sodium....
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on October 29, 2010, 04:50:49 am
Thanks so much for that recipie. I'm going to make them tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 29, 2010, 14:55:11 pm
Whoa chatty ladies ;D

Hey Kim BLW is such fun! Just buy the book it's currently £6.70 on Amazon & I assure you you'll read it more than once. Second hand copies on eBay too! Although I've just noticed that Gill Rapley has a BLW cook book, looks fairly new, I need to take a peek!!

If you haven't bought a high chair get the simplest model you can find with as few nooks and crannies as possible. We've got the Chicco polly which is very retro but a pain in the t1ts to clean! The tray has a tiny lip where the two halves join and food gets wedged in, I used to go along it with a cocktail stick! I'm looking for a new chair for Jack.

No he's not started yet, looking like next week when DH is home!

Oh GTG S has just woken up!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 29, 2010, 15:05:17 pm
Sarah I forgot to say were you worried about a nut allergy reaction? If so, if they have an issue it's the second time they have it that it's a problem!
 Hopefully she won't have, just thought forewarned is forearmed!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on October 29, 2010, 15:34:22 pm
DD just starting to get the hang of BLW!! Still occasionally takes a spoonful of puree but mostly she prefers it if I use a bit of bread or rice cracker as a dipper. Going to try pasta- have bought cannoloni as thought bigger would be easier but may be a bit wobbly?

I really like the idea of pancakes for breakfast-definately going to try that!

re highchairs- ikea does a good one for £15. lots of cafes have them and I know several people who say they rpefer them to the more expensive ones as the legs detach for trasnporting and very easy to clean!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 29, 2010, 16:00:21 pm
Ok experienced BLW mummies, here I am to pick your brains.  ;)  Looks like F has no interest in being spoon fed.  Which is fine, I'd like to do BLW with him.  I've tried giving him a piece of pear and a piece of banana with no interest, but he loved munching on a melba toast I tried today.  What's that trick you use for slippery foods, is it rolling them in wheat germ?  So, what are some good things to start with?  I'm feeling a little lost as to what to give him.  Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on October 29, 2010, 16:21:45 pm
Hi Martina!  Welcome to BW!  I bought the BLW book which gives some good info on getting started if you still have questions after your post. 

Just a heads up- F will prob gag on some food. Babies gag reflux is near the center of their tongue so if large pieces get to that place, they gag which is their way of moving the food back to the front of their mouths.  It is not the same as choking, and you don't need to do anything!  Choking is when they get food stuck and can't breathe.  BLW is supposed to make choking LESS likely as the lo's learn to chew first (versus swallowing mushy foods, then learning to chew later).

It was recommended to me to start with fruits and vegies. 

You want to do big pieces- so when you give F the pear, give him the whole pear so he can really get ahold of it.  With fruits I give the whole thing on apples and pears.  I give him half a banana.  You can roll foods in things to make them less slippery. I haven't needed to do that with T yet.

With the veggies the food needs to be in a stick shape so that F can grasp it and still have some sticking out of his hand.  Veggies steamed or roasted in the oven are good.

 Meats are good stewed or slow cooked so they are juicy and tender.  So far T's favorite foods are apples, pears, bananas, carrots, and sweet potatoes. 

If you want to do something mushy, you can give them a preloaded spoon and let them put it into their mouth, but it is really not highly recommended.  I do it anyway since I need to get some carbs into my little guy and I am avoiding wheat and other potential allergens. 

If you want to do bread, toast it so it doesn't get too sticky in their mouths.


Cut grapes or cherry tomatoes in half so they don't choke.  Wait on more difficult foods like lettuce or anything sticky.

I usually give one piece of each food to start so it doesn't all wind up on the floor.  He doesn't eat everything at every meal.  Sometimes he just plays with it.  Other times he eats a lot.



Here is what I offered T yesterday (he didn't actually eat all of it!)
Breakfast: oatmeal with cinnamon and banana
Lunch: chicken, carrots, apple
Dinner: rice pasta, cauliflower, green beans, pear

HTH!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 29, 2010, 16:55:11 pm
lol Amy, thanks for your help!  I should have been more specific.  I'm familiar with getting started with solids and doing finger foods as I did it with T.  He didn't do strictly BLW because he enjoyed purees, but was on finger foods early and did well with them.  I know about the gagging reflux, etc., it doesn't worry me.  I guess I was just looking for tips on what to do first, and specifically what to use to roll slimy foods in.  Is it wheat germ?  I do have to be careful to stay away from dairy, but that shouldn't be hard.  I want to just do what I did with T and give him whatever, but F is a little more sensitive so I'm going to go more slowly.  By the time T was 8mos he was eating just about everything under the sun!  He never had any intolerances or a sensitive tummy though. 

I was looking for the book at the library but they didn't have it.  I'm going to check and see if they can get it in from another location, just so I have more to work with.

Generally though I love doing solids, had a blast when T started.  Don't know why I'm feeling so displaced this time around, but I think it must be because of F's reflux and intolerances.  Once we get past the start I'm sure we'll be fine.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: gogomama on October 29, 2010, 16:58:37 pm
Martina I sometimes roll the slimier foods in baby cereal...it binds pretty well and gives them a better grip. I've never tried wheat germ, but that would probably work just as well.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 29, 2010, 17:05:48 pm
A lot of baby cereals have dairy so I have been avoiding them.  I did find a kind that was dairy free, but it still seemed to bother F's tummy so I stopped using that as well.  Sometimes I think I am just being overly paranoid about his tummy issues!  I swear you second guess far more the second time around than you did with your first, I just blindly gave T everything and never worried about whether or not it hurt his tummy!  :P
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 29, 2010, 18:32:49 pm
Thanks Marsha! I noticed the cookbook to - it's not quite out yet, but I have noticed that my library have pre-ordered!! :D

Tried some BLW today, but he doesn't really understand it... he couldn't figure out how to hold the butternut squash in his fist and eat at the same time... so I ended up giving him some puree off my finger, but let him come to me IYSWIM. That went well! He ate every bite! (Carrot & parsnip) If he got some on his hand, I tried to encourage him to slurp it off his hand... I think it's keeping the principle of it...maybe!

I've roasted some of the butternut squash sticks with our dinner of carribean style chicken... is that ok? It's adding a bit of flavour by soaking up all the juice of it all...

If that is ok to do, can I just refrigerate/freeze the sticks and then reheat as/when?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 29, 2010, 20:16:38 pm
Martina - I haven't rolled her stuff in anything, but I've heard of people doing wheat germ, or maybe crackers? I've also heard it said that if you just let them try to get the slippery stuff, they won't do very good at first, but they'll catch on really quick and figure out how to get it.

Amy - you give whole apples and pears? Fresh and raw? Also - have you tried regular rice for carbs (white or brown)?

Ellen has actually been eating what I've given her in the past few days!! YAY!! I think the difference has been I've actually been making dinner ::) and making it earlier so she eats WITH us, and also just giving her whatever we're eating, spices and all.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 29, 2010, 21:56:17 pm
Martina the way I see it is if it's too slippery for them to pick up or hold they're not ready to eat it! Some foods I would hold out and S would take them off me. Other food I left some skin on, although a rather large chunk of avocado skin made it out the other end!
 What slippery food are you trying?

Kim if the food isn't long enough for it to stick out of their hand they won't be able to eat it. It takes ages for them to grasp opening their hands & eating it without dropping! Or in most cases it takes a while to figure out this toy actually tastes different from plastic & takes that feeling away from his tummy!

I was watching S eat her cereal this morning, she happily spooned the milk out of the bowl that she had tipped up to get at it! Apparently her use of cutlery is well in advance of others ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 29, 2010, 22:03:53 pm
I have tried pear and banana, neither of which he had any interest in or could really hold. 

I ordered the book today so hopefully it will come soon.   ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 30, 2010, 00:39:06 am
Kim if the food isn't long enough for it to stick out of their hand they won't be able to eat it. It takes ages for them to grasp opening their hands & eating it without dropping! Or in most cases it takes a while to figure out this toy actually tastes different from plastic & takes that feeling away from his tummy!

I was watching S eat her cereal this morning, she happily spooned the milk out of the bowl that she had tipped up to get at it! Apparently her use of cutlery is well in advance of others Grin

Wow, that's impressive about the cutlery!! But I must say that I disagree about having to have long enough spears of food... it must depend on the baby b/c while Ellen has almost no concept of silverware, she can get tiny bits of food into her mouth really good. I mean, sometimes she misses, but usually not. Lol, today, she went to pick up a piece of toast, TOTALLY missed getting it in her hand - she didn't even put her hand where the toast was - and still put her hand to her mouth and opened it as if to eat the phantom piece of toast!! :D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 30, 2010, 00:52:13 am
T could pick up and eat tiny pieces of food by 7mos.  And he also mastered cutlery early and is amazing with both a fork and a spoon.  I think different babies just have different motor skills.  Some excel at gross and some at fine.  ;)

Tried the pear again today and wouldn't you know it he picked it up and munched on it for a bit.  So he's getting there.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 30, 2010, 01:07:04 am
so are you all talking about raw pears and apples?? Also, at what age did you start letting them use cutlery? Ellen is the type who will do something (as in her sippy cup) as long as you are not touching it. The moment I touch it to help her, she will pull both hands off and expect me to do it completely for her. With cutlery, she just wants to play with it so the food falls off... she's not even attempting to get it to her mouth. Should I let her play with it anyway and just let her learn its use by watching us or is there a better way to do it or should I just wait til she's interested in using it for what it's for? I haven't really given her much opportunity to try yet, b/c she just thinks it's a toy, not a utensil, kwim?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 30, 2010, 01:19:53 am
Should I let her play with it anyway and just let her learn its use by watching us
Exactly this.  Give her the cutlery, who cares what she does with it.  It might take her 2yrs from now to learn how to use it, and that's ok.  It's a good way to encourage independence and help them gain confidence.  One day she will think "oh, mommy trusts me enough to let me do this on my own!"  I never once tried to teach T how to use his cutlery, he learned soley by imitation.  But I always gave him some with every meal, even from a young age.  Children learn through exploration, sometimes you have to let go and trust that they will try and eventually get it.  I have often read that when it comes to a new toy, instead of taking it out and showing them how to use it, just give it to them and let them figure it out.  I figure the same goes for things like cutlery and sippy cups.  ;)

I give F raw pear so long as it's really ripe and soft.  With T and apples I steamed them first as I always found them to be too crunchy.  Then when he was a little older I would give him the whole apple and let him nibble at it.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on October 30, 2010, 02:12:37 am
hm, yes, I suppose you're right. I will start giving her a fork or spoon with her meals. And what about cups? i mean, she can drink out of a cup if I hold it for her, but she won't touch it if I'm touching it, and if I don't help her, it just goes everywhere... I've only let her try by herself once (outside ::) ) and it just ended up in her lap...
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 30, 2010, 03:21:20 am
Megan S mastered the pincer grip at 31 weeks, most BLW babies develop that quicker. Having longer pieces of food is needed for Kim's baby (and mine when he starts) who are not quite 6 months yet!
 We started her with a Doidy cup at 6 months and had a firm grip on it until only recently. The little monkey is very spirited and it would go flying if we let go! But as we all know babies develop differently, at a restaurant recently there was a 15 month old confidently holding & drinking from a glass tumbler! I would NEVER have trusted S at that age, it would have been bitten or thrown!
 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 30, 2010, 07:45:28 am
morning mummies!!!

Last night, the spears of squash were about the length and width of my finger when I cut them...but shrunk a bit when cooked! oops!! They were big enough for him to get a grip of, just didn't really try to put it in his mouth.  So I went with the carrot/parsnip puree as well...

Breakthrough this morning!! I made him some lightly toasted wholemeal...erm, toast... with just a bit of homemade jam (I know probably a bit naughty, as i don't know the sugar content, but am housesitting for MIL and don't have a lot of options!). AND HE LOVED IT!! Well, in that he picked it up with his hands and gnawed on it a bit!!

I feel a bit uneasy because I don't have really any dos or don'ts yet - but will hopefully have`the book soon!!

If you have any dos/don'ts, I would be appreciative!! xx
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 30, 2010, 12:09:53 pm
Cadan has been able to do the spouted free flow sippy himself for a couple months now but does tip it up to much unless I only put a cm in the bottom. He just tips the Doidy everywhere although can drink well from it whilst holding the handles if I steady it for him. My 16mo nephew can drink from a a normal glass and use a spoon and fork. I think he just got to an age recently where he has the control and understanding to copy what we do. I can't say there isn't some mess of course!
Cadan got a good pincer grip around 8mo and can pick up things like cheerios and blueberries with ease now. He can also pick up the tiniest piece of invisible fluff of the floor to eat! I think things like this happen quite suddenly and he's always surprising me. 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on October 31, 2010, 15:10:28 pm
Hey girls!! We all ate breakfast together today, and it was brilliant!!! DH and I had normal french toast, and Jack had his own kind of egg-free french toast that I found on a BLW website:

1 banana
3oz milk (breast, formula, or cow's - which is ok, because it's used for cooking apparently. We used formula)
Dash of vanilla
Dash of cinnamon

Puree all of the above, dip bread in. Cook in frying pan. Cut into "soldiers"! He LOVED it! And it was nice, because that's pretty much what we were eating too!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 31, 2010, 15:26:12 pm
Mmm, sounds YUMMY! Might have to try it myself ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on October 31, 2010, 19:02:51 pm
We did a family 'roast dinner' tonight & we all ate together (which is rare as during the week DH gets back too late from work to eat with us), E wasn't sure to start with but he seemed to like the roast veg & yorkshire pudding!

This might be a silly Q but if your LO's don't eat anything at lunch, dinner etc then what do you do, offer an alternative or just leave it?

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on October 31, 2010, 19:47:55 pm
You can offer an alternative, whether he eats is another matter. Was he perfectly happy, just not eating? If so he could be going through a famine stage, don't worry he'll probably want to eat everything in a day or two!
 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on October 31, 2010, 21:08:41 pm
I always offer an alternative if Cadan rejects something. We normally have several foods making up a meal so he'll usually eat something. Not always a whole meal though. I think he makes up for it with his BFs later if he doesn't eat enough.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 02, 2010, 00:43:40 am
Now that all the good summer fruit is gone, what are you guys feeding for fruits?  Someone told me that bananas are hard on reflux tummys...anyone have any ideas about this or any ideas of other foods to avoid or for sure give? 

I also am experiencing hard poo due to her PPI and I am not sure what to give her to loosen up her stool?  Ideas for that would be appreciated as well :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on November 02, 2010, 02:26:19 am
Myla loves mandrin oranges right now. I have to peel the skin off each peice..which is time consuming, but she loves them.
Also for fruit we do the canned peaches ( the ones packed in water not syrup). She loves those for breakfast also! Besides that we haven't had much fruit either since the grocery store doesn't have much in....
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 02, 2010, 22:26:38 pm
Cadan likes fruit and recently has had blueberries, strawberries, dragonfruit (gives shocking poops!), satsuma segments, pear, dried prunes (those last two are good for loosening the stools) papaya, banana, red graps and nectarine. Our stores get stuff sent over that isn't grown/in season here so you can often get most things easily around here.
I made the meat loaf BTW and it was very nice. Thanks Magan for the tips.   
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on November 02, 2010, 23:25:20 pm
We've been using frozen blueberries - I just defrost about a half cup at a time. She loves them so much and I  think they help keep her regular so she gets those every night. :) Yogurt is good too. Have you tried giving water between meals? DD drank A LOT over the summer. Also, the only puree I still give her is Gerbers apple/prune - she seems to know when she needs it and sometimes will eat the whole jar - other times just a few bites. Really helps!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 03, 2010, 16:10:59 pm
Both kids love the frozen bluberries here.  I actually keep them frozen bc both are teething so it kills 2 birds with 1 stone!  By the time  Elise gets to the swallow part, they are warm and mushed up.

Apples are everywhere this time of year...how are you all preparing them for LO's? 

We are also at the point here where spears are not making her super happy...she has moved on to chunks of food.  It's kind of nice bc she is able to keep more in her mouth with the chunks.

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on November 03, 2010, 21:17:33 pm
Had a frustrating day today. The mummy need to 'feed up' DD is hard to ignore! Today she has sucked some bread crusts and licked a rice cake. Just keep telling myself 'food is for fun' etc but I just want her to *get* what it's all about IYKWIM. She is soooo not bothered about soilds! Looking at the non-BLW books and they are all saying 'give 5-6 tsp' etc. Not even close.

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 03, 2010, 21:22:23 pm
If LO is intolerant to salicylates like mine, I use red kidney beans or lentils for passing the poo. A sprinkling of physillium husks over the food is a very gentle stool softener if you can get them (usually in health food isle of supermarket)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 03, 2010, 22:00:56 pm
Thanks Eloise, I am going to try some beans.  I did give her lentils, and I can't remember if it made a difference.  Do you use a pro-biotic at all?  I thought one of us did and I can't remember who.  I am thinking of trying it for El.

Newmummy-I still think give it some time.  If she is making an effort to try, that is all you can do.  She probably would not be eating as much puree either, but you would just be forcing it on her IYSWIM.  Puree can just *slide* down instead of learning how to eat it.  I know it is hard, DS who was not BLW still eats like cr@p and I have the hardest time not forcing him to eat.  I have started the BLW theory whith him at an older age (18mo), and honestly he has started to eat way more than when I was trying to make him eat.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Edesanja on November 04, 2010, 00:50:04 am
J doesn't seem to be getting the hang of actually getting much down as much as I remember DD (and she didn't have as big an appitite as J). I know he'd eat quite a lot if I spoon fed him. We've only got a few foods so far because of digestive issues and intolerances. Rice, chicken, lamb, avocado. I've cooked the meat till tender but he still can't gum it very well and I tried rice pasta for the first time today and he couldn't do that either.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on November 04, 2010, 01:37:08 am
we all want our LOs to be fat and sassy, huh?  ;) just keep it up - you'll be oK. :) take it from me - DD is just long and skinny - at 12 months she still doesn't eat a lot and is only 10% in weight but she's perfectly happy and is willing to try new foods and can feed her self with a spoon. so, i just plug along. :)
at 7 months she ate a lot of cottage cheese and avacado (i tried to get the most fat in per bite lol!)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 04, 2010, 01:46:07 am
(i tried to get the most fat in per bite lol!)
This is me right now!!  Elise is in the 10% as of today...well, she always has been, she can't have dairy, but we should own an avocado plantation the way she and I go through avocados! 

Her big brother was always in the 75-85% and he was a terrible eater...still is!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on November 04, 2010, 11:46:18 am
DS is also long and skinny but eats fabulous- great variety and lots of it!!  LOL!  Don't know where he stores it, but comes to show you that the cute chubby ones aren't always better eaters!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 04, 2010, 11:55:20 am
S was on the 50th then climbed sharply to the 98th! TBH I prefer the petite, much easier on your back!
 J has tailed off towards the 50th, we're starting BLW in the next week it'll be interesting to see how he goes! S was a gannet, still is, LOL!

For those with slow starters some babies don't get it until about 10 months! It's all about letting them do it at their own pace, ignore what other babies are doing or what all the commercialised media says and trust your LO!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 04, 2010, 20:17:45 pm
but comes to show you that the cute chubby ones aren't always better eaters!

Definitely not... Ellen is 95th percentile for height and weight and eats like a bird. I struggle to get 28 oz in her to avoid NW, let alone any solids which she hardly ever eats!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 05, 2010, 01:34:52 am
Just thought I'd pop on and see how everyone is doing!  T seems to be doing well with eating.  I offer food at all three meals, but he only eats a lot at one meal.  He kind of picks at the other two meals, but I'm not concerned.  I have tried a few sippy cups with him, but he either chews on them, or dumps them out.  So I tried the cap to one of my bottles- it is about the size of a shot glass.  I fill it about half way with water.  He picks it right up and drinks it.  It is the cutest thing!  :)  His poops however, are not cute btw.  I cloth diaper, and this is WAY different than those nice bf poops lol!

Just wanted to add that my little guy is little- 10% so far.  I haven't been to the doc for his 6 month yet, as I am trying to get his records transfered to the new doc, but I would bet he is still on the 10% track.  He is still in 3-6 month clothes, as he is going on 7 months now.  I agree about it being nice on the back! He is a bundle of energy though, always on the go!

Also, all I do for my apples, is peel them.  And for pears, I just give them to him to eat.  Is that wrong?  Am I supposed to be doing something with them?  He has his two bottom teeth, so he just uses them to scrape off the fruit.  He loves his fruit.  Banana is his fav. I would say.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 05, 2010, 01:51:51 am
Amy - have you tried those flushable diaper liners? They are similar to dryer sheets (without the scents/chemicals and much softer) to give you an idea of what they are like, and you just lay them in on top of the CD and then when they poo you just pull the liner out and out comes all the poo - works GREAT and SO much easier and cleaner. You don't have to rinse your diapers at all. You have to change it with every diaper, poo or not, but it's biodegradable and flushable and IMO so very worth it. Some of them you can even wash and reuse if there was no poo, but I'm not sure which ones. If you're interested, I can send you a link to a few different kinds on amazon.

And as far as fruit, if it works, I wouldn't say it's wrong! That's what BLW is all about, isn't it? I can't wait till Ellen has teeth and can scrape fruit and carrots and stuff.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 05, 2010, 11:14:18 am
Amy we just didn't give S apples as she couldn't so anything with them. Then one day she crawled over to DH stole his apple and started munching on it! She just needed those top teeth.

Oh and I can't wait for solid related poops! I'm sick of constantly having to change his clothes because it's leaked up the back. No nappy seems to contain it! I never forget the day S had her first solid poop, so much easier to clean. Now they just make me want to throw up, I wish she would pt already!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 05, 2010, 17:35:02 pm
We have really soft mac apple and I just give her small sections and she takes bites and chews  :) I steamed the pears tho, I have not tried them in a while tho so maybe she could handle it.

Eloise~ How do you serve your beans? Are they canned or cooked?

Sarah~  How do you know when a avacodo is ripe enough?  I have never eaten one  :P but bought some for A, how do you serve it? 

I think the forzen bluberries are a great idea!  I will have to find some.... Do you guys freeze freash ones or they come frozen?

DD does not weight a lot (15lbs on our scale) but seems "concentrated" or something!  She seems sooooo heavy!  She is not pudgy or anything, but very solid  ;)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on November 05, 2010, 18:37:32 pm
Mary, you can get PC frozen blueberries at Loblaws or Superstore if there is one near you.  They come in a tub and are perfect for LOs.  Plus, you can wash and reuse the tubs.  ;)

F is doing well so far with the BLW.  He has been munching on apple, pear, banana, and carrot so far.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 05, 2010, 20:09:54 pm
Mary-avocados can be really good, but really bad if they get mushy.  Basically I buy them hard as a rock and as soon as they give a little when you squeeze them it is time.  Run a kinfe around to split it in half, there is a large pit in the middle, then give a little twist.  This will give you two halves, one with a pit.  Hold the pit side in your hand and chop down into the pit (sounds scarier then it is) to lodge the knife blade into the avocado. Then twist your knife and the pit will pop out.  Then I just run a knife long way down the inner flesh to make thirds.  Then use a spoon to run along the inside of the flesh.  The skin is quite bitter so stay away from getting that involved if you can.  I started with spear shapes and have moved to chunks for El.  You can the flesh with some salsa if you like and make guacamole for chips as well.  Fun for the bigger ones to dip into

HTH
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 05, 2010, 20:23:49 pm
We like to eat avocados with lime juice (yum!!!) or a bit of salt... for us adults that is ;D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 05, 2010, 20:26:15 pm
Avocados are also nice mashed & mixed with either banana or cream cheese & spread on bagels/toast etc......
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 05, 2010, 21:43:06 pm
my favourite (for me!) is sliced avocado with salt rolled in a flour tortilla. mmmm!

or they used to serve an "ABST" Avocado, Bacon, Spinach, Tomato wrap at a lovely restaurant I used to go to.... delicious!!!


I bought 2 avocados today for Jack to try!! Can't wait!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on November 05, 2010, 21:51:05 pm
Avocados get eaten a lot around here too, though still figuring out how to get some to F.  I think I wait until they're too squishy.  I used to mash them for T with banana, pear, or blueberry.  They're good in smoothies too.  It's a superfood, lol.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 05, 2010, 22:08:26 pm
We don't do apples either as Cadan can't seem to manage the crunch and just spits it out once it breaks up in small chunks.  He can do pears which I just peel and cut into quarters lengthways. But the pears have to be ripe or he spits it out and gags lots.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 06, 2010, 08:43:05 am
ok guys sorry if asked before,  how are you douing meats as finger foods?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on November 06, 2010, 17:56:13 pm
Meatballs are great.  You can mix in all kinds of herbs and even veggies if you and and you can do all kinds of meat and they are easy to prepare in advance and freeze!  We also did long thin strips of chicken and fish.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 06, 2010, 18:57:07 pm
We do a lot of stew type meat.  About 1" chunks are perfect.  El loves lamb.
For chicken, I slow roast it and then I guess peel it into strips for lack of a better reference.  I guess going with the grain of the meat is another way to put it.

We also do meatballs and meatloaf.  Porcupine meatballs are always a favorite...meatballs with rice and onion in them slowly cooked in a sauce.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 07, 2010, 13:48:48 pm
I think we call that "torn" over here Sarah. I find it goes less stringy if we cut across the grain actually and Cadan can swallow it easier.
Cadan loves meatballs too. Now he is older I just cut the meat into bite sized chunks and he puts the whole thing in his mouth, gums and swallows. As your little guy is younger Eloise you might want to keep it bigger so he can suck bits off I guess.
We went to an Indian wedding yesterday and Cadan ate pretty much everything. I just took a cover-all bib with arms and let him have chucks of everything. He did really well. Found out he loves tofu.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 07, 2010, 14:48:22 pm
Ali-that is so awesome!  I can't wait to have Indian food again and I am hoping the kids will love it too.  It is one of my fav types of food, but they use so much butter that I can't have it until my little girl's tummy settles down some.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 07, 2010, 15:58:23 pm
Thanks ladies!  I will have to get those avacados out before they get too mushy  ;) Martina, I will have to get the blueberries when I come see you, we dont have those stores around here  ;)

A seeems to manage with everything the same way we eat it, the other day DH made HM hamburgers and made two tiny ones for her.  Even tho they were bbq'd she did well with them.  A little harder on the outside then when meatballs are slow cooked etc, but she seemed to make it work!  Today we made crepes with friut inside for bf and DD muched hers down while DS just sat there and looked at his! lol He drives me insane! He was basically BLW`d and still hates to eat.....just too busy, always wants to be going somewhere or doing something better  ;)

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 07, 2010, 20:09:48 pm
Ali-that is so awesome!  I can't wait to have Indian food again and I am hoping the kids will love it too.  It is one of my fav types of food, but they use so much butter that I can't have it until my little girl's tummy settles down some.
Yeah I am not convinced all that fat, salt, spice and sugar is good for Cadan and I wouldn't let him have it everyday but as a one off I just let him have what he wanted.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 07, 2010, 20:43:24 pm
BLW going great here, I think!!! He just loves getting his hands into everything! Plus, I figured out what to do with the frozen puree I'd already made...(inspired by Sarah's blueberries!) Jack is teething too, so prob could do with some cold...so I took out one of the (HEART SHAPED!) lumps of puree and let him go at it! HE LOVED IT!!! Soothing on his gums, a good size to gnaw on, and it thaws pretty quickly, so was easy to swallow... HE ACTUALLY SWALLOWED IT!

Now, speaking of swallowing... we've had a few choking incidents. It terrifies me, but I'm telling myself that he'll learn. He brings it back up REALLY quickly, but it's still so scary. Today, it was on a piece of plum wedge that he'd bitten (gummed) off... what do you girls think?!  AM I PUTTING HIM IN DANGER!?

Please please tell me I'm not a bad mummy!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 07, 2010, 21:00:04 pm
Is he actually choking Kim or just gagging? Sounds like the latter if he is able to bring it back up himself pretty easily. i used to remove the skins from those sorts of fruit as they always got caught in this throat I found.
Cadan loves frozen pear puree too. If you put a little stick in it it's like a mini ice lolly!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 07, 2010, 21:15:40 pm
Kim I too think it is gagging.  True choking does not make much noise at all.   They really have a look on their face that is pretty unmistakable if he is really choking.  Also, if he is not crying or upset after, he is fine.  I think you are doing great!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 08, 2010, 00:20:07 am
I agree - probably gagging. Scary, but it's their learning process. No way are you a bad mommy for letting him learn how to eat!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 08, 2010, 03:15:12 am
Hey Kim he's doing really well. They do make a mountain out of a mole hill with the gagging though! I kept S in my lap until I was sure she could cope with it!

Should be starting J over the next few days, it's mad that he's nearly six months already!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on November 08, 2010, 15:07:30 pm
it's mad that he's nearly six months already!!

Don't know where the time has gone. It seems like yesterday that you had him.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 08, 2010, 19:27:13 pm
Thanks girls!!! I think you're probably right... I'll start taking the skins off for the next little while until he can manage a bit better...

Jack is 6mos tomorrow!! Bloomin heck!!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 10, 2010, 03:31:18 am
Hello everyone!!  Do any of your little ones keep food in their mouths after they eat?  I always check T's cheeks, but recently found out he's been storing it on the roof of his mouth.  The pears I bought recently seem to have a tougher skin that he can't gum, so he wads it up and keeps it on the roof of his mouth.  So now I am checking the roof of his mouth after he eats as well as his cheeks  (and peeling his pears). 

Also, T is bound up :(.  Any food ideas other than pears to help him loosen it up??  I am hoping for a poo tomorrow!

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 10, 2010, 03:43:50 am
Prunes & prune juice work well.

Yes S loved storing food for later! The after dinner mouth check became a  game for a while!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 10, 2010, 03:45:00 am
Amy-we did beans for at all three meals for 2 days (mixed in other stuff like fruits and peas too) and she is back on track.  Also, we will be starting a probiotic bc she has frequent back ups from her PPI.  I have to pick up a non dairy one instead of the one I already bought ::)

Marsha-shouldn't you be sleeping?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 10, 2010, 09:05:52 am
thanks girls for the info on meat - I'll give meat balls a try!  I am finding though that with mince, he tens to store the little firms mince bits in his mouth alot and als gets annoyed with the texture.  I guess he is teething so annpoyed with alot of stuff.  He can do celery though if I peel off the strings... so I guess he should be able to handle a chunk of meat right?

If you make long thin strips of meat how are they supposed to get bits off and swallow -  K does well with finger foods that can be crushed in his mouth - he does have a chewing action going.  He also sucks his food to bits.  How would he do a strip of meat though?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 10, 2010, 14:25:37 pm
Eloise if you cut with the grain of the meat they can't really gum it off to swallow it, but they suck happily! The juices are just as beneficial as the actual meat. If you cut against the grain they can pull chunks off, it's up to you, maybe try both ways and see which he prefers?

Sarah I had a rubbish night compared to the night before! He fed twice, then pooped up his back m, joy! He NEVER poops at night anymore, I was a little taken a back!

Well J has started BLW today. Tried with a banana, he kept attacking it then looking confused before attacking it again, then he had enough, cried and fed on me!
 He's more of a challenge than S because he rarely feeds on waking, so it was almost bed time when he fed! I didn't know he would guzzle a boob or two after he had done so I may have to do solids before a bf!
 Either way, I think he'll be slower than S, we'll see!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 10, 2010, 14:41:33 pm
How exciting Marsha, you are finally joining in. 

I remember the early days with El, she would get frustrated, I would nurse her and set her right back down with solids.  It seemed like she would be too hungry and could not concentrate to pick stuff up if she did not have some bm in her.  If she had just had bm, she did really good. That lasted a short time and now it does not matter when I feed her
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 10, 2010, 14:45:17 pm
How exciting Marsha, you are finally joining in.

Again!

Yeh, he'd fed on me about an hour before! I always knew he'd be more of a challenge! He'll get there.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 13, 2010, 21:13:01 pm
Hi all....

We're still not doing too great with E's eating. Got the BLW book Sarah recommended which has been really helpful but despite trying lots of different foods he just isn't that interested & most of the time pulls a 'what on earth is this??!!' face when he puts things in his mouth. Am I just being really impatient? I'm just worried that he's not eating enough food & at just over 10 mo doesn't seem to be getting any better  :(
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 13, 2010, 21:35:05 pm

I still think hold tight and keep offering. 
Does he have a milk habit?? If he is on the higher side of milk intake he may be filling hi?self so much he just isn't in the mood.  Also, some take longer than others to get it.  Is he FF or BF?

Are you trying consistently or kind of just hit and miss
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 13, 2010, 21:54:53 pm
Hey Sarah  :)

He's on 3 milk feeds a day one around 7am/2pm/BT & has solids at 8am-ish/12pm/5pm so I don't think he's taking too much milk(he's now FF). He doesn't do too bad at breakfast, he likes picking up Cheerios & will suck on some toast & fruit.

Trying to be as consistent as I can....we all eat together as well (me DD & DS most days with DH at work). I'm just so worried he's maybe turning into a faddy eater already!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 14, 2010, 17:17:51 pm
Think I lost my post.  I think I will have to give up blw.  Long story short MIL freaked out and DH said it makes him nervous too.  So after 4 weeks of BLW, I think I have to throw in the towel.  MIL is a nurse and was so upset she cried.  She is really a good mil- she doesn't usually interfere, but she is worried he is going to inhale food.  Since dh is not supportive, I think I'm going to go with mush. :(
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 14, 2010, 17:33:35 pm
Oh Amy!! I'm so sorry to hear that!! You sure are a lot nicer than I am!! When will they be comfortable letting him eat on his own?

A lot of people seem to be telling me that I better hurry up and start getting her to eat more solids or she'll be a fussy toddler... but isn't the point of BLW that they do it on their own pace? And why do people say she'll be a fussy toddler *because* she's not eating now? Why isn't it that she's not eating now *because* she's already fussy (or is just not interested yet?) Is it b/c right now she'll comply easier whereas when she's two, she'll be more obstinate?

Sian - as you can tell from above, we're not doing to good either. Although today, she did eat about 1/2 an egg for breakfast. I had to feed her tho - she had it on her tray so she could eat it herself, but she didn't even touch it. But then when I fed her, she ate it. She seems to take much more if I'm feeding her from a fork.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on November 14, 2010, 18:19:51 pm
Goodness Amy, that is really kinda sad.   :'(  Why can't people just trust our judgement as mummies?  Will either of them be willing to read the book, or at least parts that you feel are important?  Well, I can understand respecting their input, but TBH they should respect yours as well.  Afterall, I'll bet you're the only one whose read about this stuff.  I have told my DH that until he reads up on any aspect of parenting, he can't judge how I would like to do things.  Another thing too is I know that MIL's opinions are important, and that those especially who have been in the medical field think they know all, but a lot of the information they have is dated and no longer applies.  Listen, this is your child's eating habits we're talking about, don't settle for mush if you don't think it's what's best for him.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 14, 2010, 18:23:38 pm
I have told my DH that until he reads up on any aspect of parenting, he can't judge how I would like to do things.  ... Listen, this is your child's eating habits we're talking about, don't settle for mush if you don't think it's what's best for him.

I feel this way too - which is why I say that you're nicer than I am!! And I just came back to say that I wasn't trying to be snarky when I asked when they'd be comfortable with it... I was just curious.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on November 14, 2010, 18:30:32 pm
Another thing too Amy, is what are they really worried about, choking?  Because BLW aside, even babies who do purees are ready for finger foods by 7mos.  So you can do both now anyway, even if you do purees I don't see why you can't include finger foods since Timmy is 7mos.  You tell them that allowing a baby to experiment with foods using their hands improves their hand eye coordiation and helps with their development.  It's important in other ways other than just eating!  ;)

The book even says that letting them learn how to eat by themselves actually LESSENS the chances of choking because they learn how to efficiently move the food around in their mouths.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 14, 2010, 18:55:17 pm
And I've heard that their gagging reflex is further forward at this age than it will be later to help keep them from choking... so this also lessens the chance of them choking b/c they learn to maneuver food while they have that safety net in place.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 14, 2010, 20:19:36 pm
Afterall, I'll bet you're the only one whose read about this stuff.  I have told my DH that until he reads up on any aspect of parenting, he can't judge how I would like to do things.  ...  Listen, this is your child's eating habits we're talking about, don't settle for mush if you don't think it's what's best for him.

^^^ THIS. THIS. THIS. ^^^

I totally support you, Amy, whatever you choose to do (not that it's my support that matters!). BLW is completely safe, if an adult is on hand. As it says in the book, people have been doing BLW for centuries - it's only recently that they've decided that mush is the way forward!

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that this is the way that our bodies were intended to learn how to eat (I am a religious person, so I feel that this is the way that God has created our bodies to eat).

For me, it's not coincidence that babies at 6 months have the physical capability to pick up foods and put them in their mouths and that at the same time, their digestive system is now able to handle it. And then when they develop the pincer grip, they're also developed enough not to choke on what they've picked up, etc... to me, it's science.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 14, 2010, 21:15:25 pm
as you can tell from above, we're not doing to good either. Although today, she did eat about 1/2 an egg for breakfast. I had to feed her tho - she had it on her tray so she could eat it herself, but she didn't even touch it. But then when I fed her, she ate it. She seems to take much more if I'm feeding her from a fork.

Half an egg is good going for a 9mo in my eyes. If Cadan ate 1/4 an egg now I would consider that an OK meal. He rarely eats a whole one. I really find variety helps as he'll eat a little of everything which adds up to a lot.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 14, 2010, 21:47:24 pm
just thought I'd throw in my mantra of late:

BEFORE 1, FOOD IS FOR FUN!!!


Take a deep breath, girls, and try to relax! :D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 14, 2010, 22:04:35 pm
OMG Amy that is so sad! I can't agree strongly enough with what everyone else has said. Did you know that spoon fed babies are more likely to choke than babies weaned this way? They learn so much faster if allowed to learn themselves first hand.
 J has been trying foods since Wednesday, a few bits have gone down the wrong way and he's quuietly gagged it back up!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't give in, make them read the book. TBH T may not let you spoon feed him anyway, so you may not be able to switch.

My FIL said last year that he didn't agree with BLW and thought I would fail miserably, he never said a word though and thankfully kept his opinions to himself. He now admits that BLW is the best way to wean and tells everyone with babies about it.

Well J has so far tried banana, pasta, tomato, roast chicken, potatos, broccoli, bread and potato waffle! I think there are a few others but I can't remember.
 He's taking to it ok, gets a lttle stressed that he can't pick it up and much prefers us holding a chunk of food for him to suck on! He's yet to get the idea.

bug_blues 70 (sorry I don't know your name) S never touched egg in any form until a month ago. She wouldn't even pick it up so sounds like you're little one is going ok.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 14, 2010, 22:10:59 pm
Thanks, I have been pretty relaxed about it because I've heard that saying, but lately it seems a lot of people have been telling me that I need to start getting her to eat more solids. I appreciate all the advice and input - I'm not upset or offended at all about people telling me, b/c maybe I really do need to focus on it more, but I'm just wondering if it's really so much of a big deal. That and I have NO idea how to gauge how much she should be eating vs how much she is. If 1/2 an egg is good (or even 1/4) then maybe she's doing better than I thought (although she doesn't usually eat that much).
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 15, 2010, 00:20:01 am
Just HAVE to share a funny moment with you.  Yesterday I made roast lamb and cut of a long strip against the grain and gave to K to suck on.  He LOVED it!  He sucked it so dry it was  like a dessicated peice of beef jerky when he was finished! It was very funny watching him with the  meat hanging out of his mouth down his chin, sucking away  :P
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 15, 2010, 01:43:23 am
Amy~ From what I read of your post your MIL is worried that lo will inhale food (as in breathe it in instead of swallow and cause pneumonia etc?)  I just wanted to say that imho it would be a lot easier for a lo to inhale a puree deep enough into their lungs to cause this type of issue.  And really the only thing that could not cause this problem would be water.  I am also a nurse (not that that makes mu opinion any better then anyone elses) and I think that BLW is a very natural way for los to learn how to eat.  For what it is worth, their are conflicting opinions about everything in medicine and babies, so it could be argued either way depending on your priorities.  And if I am wronf about the inhaling, sorry about this little rant!!  ;)

Also from a fighting mommy angle, I had to fight DH and MIL about BLW with DD (even tho I did it with DS, apparently their memories are not that good!) Neither were comfortable with it and felt I was putting her in danger (okay, going blue after choking on banana may have caused this concern!  :P) But in reality, I feed her everyday and to be honest, my way goes.  I mean, she is my child, I would have to deal with it if she did choke (which was also made blatently obvious when she did and they all stood around staring at her), and I accept that responsibility.  And your lo has been doing blw for 4 weeks and they are concerned now?  I think if it is what you want to do, stick with it.  DOnt get me wrong, I respect DH and MIL opinions, but am with Martina about this
Afterall, I'll bet you're the only one whose read about this stuff.  I have told my DH that until he reads up on any aspect of parenting, he can't judge how I would like to do things.  ...  Listen, this is your child's eating habits we're talking about, don't settle for mush if you don't think it's what's best for him.

Good luck with your decision!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 15, 2010, 01:45:29 am
Oh and if I here "She's choking, She's choking!" one more time when this little girl gags I am going to scream!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 15, 2010, 02:00:32 am
Thanks for the support ladies!  I am VERY upset about all of this.  I knew MIL wouldn't like it.  I was hoping by the time we saw her he would be a little older.  Dh had basically told me it made him nervous, but to do what I wanted.  I thought that after a month of blw that dh was now confident that it is safe.  Unfortunately it came out today that he is still nervous every time T eats.  I am so afraid that if something were to happen, they would all be thinking "I knew it wasn't a good idea". I tried to explain to mil that his foods are soft enough to gum, and he is just as likely to choke on purée.  Imam not going to change her mind.  I think I will probably wind up doing a combo of both.  Ds is pretty good with a spoon now, so I'll just preload and hand it to him.  Gtg. It has been a stressful day.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 15, 2010, 02:16:37 am
Hugs Amy!!

Cute, Eloise!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 15, 2010, 02:22:48 am
More hugs Amy!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 15, 2010, 02:38:00 am
Thanks everyone!!  Meditrina- I do feel better hearing that from you since there is little medical advice pro blw(due to law suits of course).  I tried to reason with mil about choking and inhaling foods to no avail.  She watched Timmy easily eat 2 meals before she spoke up.  Dh basically said from the start that it makes him nevous, but I'm the one who feeds him so to do what I want.  I was hoping for his support now that he has seen it. Oh well.  It was really comical watching mil try to feed DS at breakfast with a spoon.  He kept trying to grab it from her.  She wouldn't even let him get the spoon because "he is too small for it".  Finally dh took the spoon and gave it to Timmy and he fed himself.  I am done ranting!  Thanks for listening!! :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 15, 2010, 02:39:54 am
Wow, that's amazing that he's feeding himself with a spoon!! Do you have to load it for him?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on November 15, 2010, 02:41:30 am
(((hugs))) Amy!  It's ok to do both, I did both with T.  At the end of the day you have to do what you feel suits you both.  But don't NOT do BLW simply for the reason that MIL doesn't like it.  There are so many other factors.  YOU are the expert here.  Good luck.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 15, 2010, 02:56:22 am
Amy I am so sorry it has to be this way for you.  People should learn that parenting is personal, so butt out.  Have you taken a parent CPR class?  They teach you how to help a choking baby..not that I think it would happen, in fact I am most certain it won't..but then you could explain that you would feel comfortable in case a problem arose.  I too am in healthcare and have about 16yrs working with very sick kids, and I feel absolutely positive this is not only a "good idea" but a Great Idea!!  I also know from first hand experience that "seasoned" nurses frequently think they know everything, when in fact they just have opinions based on nothing but their lazziness to NOT become better informed. Sorry for the soapbox

Here is what I do with MIL...she know better than to question me though...I give her purees or soup/stew to feed El if and when she has to.  It makes her more comfortable and honestly she would freak out if El even gagged.  MIL is a nervous Nelly to say the least, it would stress her out to the MAX.  El will eat anything, but MIL reports she makes a face like "what the heck are you giving me"

HTH

Big Big hugs from us
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 15, 2010, 04:35:29 am
Hey Amy,

 replied in the both clubs thread about your MIL.  Just dropping off some hugs and a big SIGH.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 15, 2010, 13:22:58 pm
Megan. I heard a stomach is the size of the fist so if Ellen is eating food roughly the size of her fist that would fill her tummy right up.
Glad your Lo likes the lamb Eloise.
Amy, why don't you just do BLW when MIL isn't around? She's not there all the time is she? Like someone else said even non-BLW'ed babies have finger foods from 7mo so he should be having them by now even if he weren't on BLW. We don't do purees now but do have cereals like porridge so it is possible for your Lo to get the hang of finger foods even if he is spoon-fed too. I know that isn't BLW though.
I have started being able to give Cadan a bowl of food (cut up strawberries yesterday) and he will put them in his mouth one by one. I do have to watch he doesn't sling the bowl over the side of the high chair tray.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 16, 2010, 03:47:28 am
Thanks ladies!  All our family lives far away.  This means when we visit, we are staying with them and vise versa.  I knew mil would freak, but I thought dh would explain how well it is going.  Turns out dh is nervous too.  I am not comfortable doing blw without his support.  So we are going to do a variation on blw.  I am feeding ds foods that dh is comfortable with- potatoes, bananas, and other mushy food.  We will purée the others for a little while.  Dh volunteered to make the purees and I'm going to take him up on it.  I was already feeding ds rice cereal/oatmeal once a day by preloading a spoon for him( I had bought it prior to discovering blw).  I hope you will still allow me to post on this board!  On the plus side, dh likes how ds feeds himself with the spoon.  We are visiting my sil right now and my neice who is 2 weeks older than ds is spoonfed.  She refuses food, and it gets shoved in whenever she smiles or "talks".  Dh really could see a huge difference in the two kids' attitudes toward mealtime.  Ds LOVES to eat, and will eat anything, and is very happy at mealtime.  Could just be his personality, but there is no way I could go to spoon-feeding now. I can handle preloading for him, but I can't imagine trying to jam a spoon into his pursed lips :(
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 16, 2010, 04:25:39 am
Of course you can stick around  ;D  This is all going to be just fine.  Let it blow over some...let DH puree to his hearts content.  As long as your LO is getting the experience of choosing when to eat and not being force fed I think you are in the plus column.  Your LO is basically at the age to start giving finger foods anyhow, so you will be back to where you were in a very short time frame good luck!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 16, 2010, 15:42:13 pm
Hey Amy definitely stick around here. I'm quite sure your LO will soon refuse purée. Plus I reckon you could do BLW on the sidelines, I'm sure there are plenty of times when you are feeding him on your own? Perfect opportunity to carry on whilst pleasing the nervous around you ;) 

J is officially the messiest muncher about! Where S used to spread it all over her face he just sucks and spits it all down himself! There is plenty of evidence he's eating some too, he's getting used to it.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 16, 2010, 19:54:52 pm
Amy~ Hugs and agree that you will prob be back to where you are now soon anyways  :)  Maybe you can "teach" your SIL the preloaded spoon technique and your neice could enjoy more of her meal time too!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 16, 2010, 21:27:40 pm
Megan. I heard a stomach is the size of the fist so if Ellen is eating food roughly the size of her fist that would fill her tummy right up.

Thanks Ali, good point! She actually ate a lot yesterday for lunch - I'm guessing 1/4 cup cooked rice, about 8 craisins, and 4-5 small bites of spinach. I couldn't believe how much she ate!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 16, 2010, 21:57:33 pm
Megan-that is awesome!!  I knew given time she would come around :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 16, 2010, 22:23:06 pm
Let's hope it sticks!! :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on November 16, 2010, 22:37:00 pm
That's great news megan!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 17, 2010, 01:54:33 am
Good job Ellen!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 17, 2010, 02:04:08 am
Thanks everyone :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 18, 2010, 18:15:13 pm
Yay Megan!  So glad Ellen is eating for you!  Quick question: what is the proper consistency of baby poo now that solids are introduced??  I think T's are too hard.  They are little hard turds.  Should it be more of a mush??  Sorry about the gross question!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 18, 2010, 18:41:28 pm
He may need more liquid, A's are mush, but not liquid iykwim?  I wont elaborate! lol

There is this thread: http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=54820.0

and this one (it even has pics!): http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=157413.0
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 18, 2010, 21:42:05 pm
Amy - I get all different kinds. Some are hard little pellets, some are soft mush, and some are like regular turds. ;D I think she only gets the pellets after she eats a lot of dairy and is somewhat stopped up. She eats way more formula than solids though, so that might be why I usually get mush.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on November 18, 2010, 22:59:03 pm
Amy, it does seem to vary but increasingly they seem to be pretty firm. They kind of mold around the shape of her bum if she's been sitting down. Every now and then we get runny poos bt l think that can be during teething phases. The poos now are so much easier to clean up but wow, they really stink.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 18, 2010, 23:12:27 pm
The poops definitely become more adult like the more solids they eat. At this early age though I find lots of foods come out no dissimilar to how they went in, only partially digested. Handy for seeing that he is indeed eating lots and how long it takes to pass through but I have had some shockers. Dragonfruit was the worst!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs. A on November 19, 2010, 00:34:12 am
Hi Ladies :) mind if I join? 
I haven't really given much thought to blw, but I'm hardly trying to lead the weaning myself if that makes sense ??? So I just thought I'd follow along and see what's what. :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 19, 2010, 01:36:31 am
Welcome Lisa!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 19, 2010, 04:04:15 am
Hi Lisa!!  Welcome.
You can check out our pics too

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178354.msg2071761;topicseen#msg2071761
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 19, 2010, 10:25:14 am
Hi all!  ;D

Well we have had a bit of success...E has been eating a little bit more, he seems to like bagels & humous also ate quite a bit of a stew I made the other day, so hopefully he's starting to get the hang of it!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 19, 2010, 13:24:11 pm
Yay Sianie!! That's great!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 19, 2010, 19:53:51 pm
Meditrina- thank you for the links.  Thank you for all of your input everyone!  I checked out the pics, and he is def. constipated.  He was going every day, so I didn't think it was constipation, but the pic of constipated poo is what he is having exactly.  He has been vomiting for the last 2 days on and off, and I think it is due to constipation!  I've called the pedi, and talked to a nurse.  They just said to give him apple juice.  So I've been reading online trying to find things to help.  I've done hot baths, massages, moving his legs, apple juice etc. He has only had BM for the last 2 days.  I hope he gets it all out soon!  He is making me worried!!  :'( 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on November 19, 2010, 20:51:06 pm
Prunes can help and lots and lots of water. Bananas should definitely be avoided as they contribute to constipation. Dont worry too much. It'll pass and soon you'll have some runny poop to clean up.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 19, 2010, 21:04:00 pm
I've heard it's the seeds in the bananas, but not the fruit part that doesn't have seeds... anyone know if this is really true or not?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 19, 2010, 22:36:07 pm
what are your thoughts ladies.  K is constipated again!

I can't give prunes, juice - well,  any fruit except bannana and paw paw (we know about bannana and poo) due to his intolerances).  I am sprinkling 1/2 teaspoon physillium husks on his food.    Last time he was constipated the only way I got the poo out was to give him two doses of 1/2 teaspoon brown sugar in 30mls of warm water over a day, and it worked.  I have am uncomfortable with giving sugar to a baby,  (especially since this is 6 days later and I have to give it again) but I can't see any other safer or better alternative.  Any ideas????

I am also giving red kidney beans with 1 teaspooon of lentils with lunch, and then lamb with his dinner  ( I have to give him 2 x protein per day). He eats gluten free toast and porridge for breakfast and paw paw.  Lunch and dinner are swede/green beans/choko/stock  and sometimes gluten free pasta, with the protein.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 19, 2010, 23:01:10 pm
Amy your description of Ts turds made me laugh, I've not heard poop called turds in years! Definitely try the prunes though and I've heard pears work well. My friend used to apply a small amount of Vaseline to aid passing, if you get my drift?
 Hey Eloise maybe avoid bread for a while, it certainly bungs me up!

Yay Sianie, it must be good to see him finally eat. I think J may take a while, unlike S who stuffed her face (and still does) from the get go!

Welcome Lisa.

I've heard it's the seeds in the bananas, but not the fruit part that doesn't have seeds...

Do bananas have seeds?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 20, 2010, 00:06:06 am
Bananas do have tiny black seeds if you cut them in half.  I have not seen a difference in cutting them out. But I can say from experience that they constipate some lo's (Ry) and not others (El)

Eloise can you give sweet potatoe? That cleans out both my babes in about a days time and puts them back on track.

Also, if they are constipated and BFing, go bover how much water you have been drinking.  El had rabbit turds for 2 days and I realized I had not had nearly enough to drink!  I drowned myself with water and we were back on track.

HTH
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs. A on November 20, 2010, 00:35:58 am
Two foods that always pass through really quick here (as in only a few hours later!) are carrots and corn... Not sure how much they would help with the constipation, but possibly give a try if nothing else is working?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 20, 2010, 02:49:46 am
From what I understand bananas are good for constipation and diarrhea  ??? Could they make that more confusing?? lol

They water is really inportant like Sarah said.  If ff or drinking from sippy add more and see if it helps (I had a friend who literally had to pull poo from her los bum and it was all related to water, she added more h2o to her milk and voila! no more poo issues) 

Pears are really good here.  Is the physillium a bulk builder? (absorbs water in the colon)  Cuz it will only help if K is getting enough liquid.  Can you give mineral oil to babies?  To lubercate from the inside out?  :P 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 20, 2010, 04:27:02 am
Thanks ladies!  That's quite a few ideas for me to try.  I don't drink enough water at all  :( 
Unfort he can't have any of those veges.

The physillium husk is a stool softener and gentle fibre.... does that mean bulk builder too?
Where would one get mineral oil?

Will announce when we get a poo  ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 20, 2010, 10:37:29 am
Eloise - I use milled flaxseed sprinkled onto E's breakfast (not sure if K can have this?) but as well as being a superfood (high in Omega 3 & 6 etc) it's really high in dietary fibre & it really helps with E's BM's as he has a tendency to get constipated!

Otherwise have you offered him cooled boiled water?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs. A on November 20, 2010, 12:43:31 pm
You should be able to find mineral oil at any pharmacy.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 20, 2010, 13:32:37 pm
Hi girls! Just thought I would catch up!! Welcome, Lisa! Hope we can help you find what you might be looking for!

Speaking of poo - we are QUITE the opposite. LOTS of very very runny poos... I'm thinking attributed to teething? It's also making this bum a bit sore, maybe from passing so much saliva? Thoughts?

Eloise, you've completely thrown me off kilter with your super organised "2 x protein" etc... I just give lots of veg, some cheese, some pasta, some meats willy nilly! Oh my...

Discovered asparagus today! Quite an ideal size for BLW, I think. He had 2 spears with his lunch and some red leicester cheese. Not so interested in tomato or carrot or cucumber, but the point is making it available really, isn't it?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 20, 2010, 13:41:27 pm
I think that physillium is a bulk builder, which are great laxatives since poo is easier to pass if bulky ;) You just need to make sure that you and K get enough liquids, since it does absorb water while passing through the colon, and can actually bung you up more.  Just make sure you guys are drinking enough.  If you dont drink enough water, maybe herbal tea?  Remember that all liquid counts towards you fluid intake, not just water (although it would be the best) Anything with caffiene will also act as a diuretic and make your body get rid of more fluid.  

Kim~ I will have to try asparagus! I love it, I am sure DD will too.  I would maybe wait a few days and reoffer the foods that lo is not interested in, just keep offering healthy foods  :)  I dont know about the runny poos, neither of my kids got diarrhea when teething, but I have read that it is d/t excess saliva.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on November 20, 2010, 13:50:06 pm
F has been enjoying asparagus.  :)

No poop issues here.  Both boys have always been proficient poopers.  :P  F woke us up to a lovely poop filled diaper this morning!  So I don't have any good tips I'm afraid, but looks like you've been getting a lot from everyone else Eloise!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 20, 2010, 20:26:24 pm
Well ladies, I gave him apple juice yesterday.  Nurse said I could give him up to 7 ounces.  I think he drank about 5.  We have had exploding poop ever since!  I am so relieved.  Also, DH and I now have the stomach flu, so his vomiting, that I thought was due to constipation, was really a stomach virus.  So DS is better, the adults are feeling really rough right now though. 

Here are a few sites I found helpful:
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/8/t081100.asp
http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/constip.htm

I guess no more bananas for DS :(  He loves them!    I have been strictly BFing him, and I haven't given him any solids in a few days since he was vomiting.  I think we'll try a pear tonight! Good Luck Eloise!!

Also- DS get diarrhea if he eats something that irritates his tummy.  His poo will be green and mucousy.  Hopefully your lo has normal watery poo!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 20, 2010, 21:04:27 pm
Kim Metanium is really good for sore bums. I just bought some more for Cadan as he had an upset belly due to antiBs he was on for a chest infection. It looks like yellow paint when you put it on and is very water resistent so great for keeping that poo from irritating the skin. You can buy it from the pharmacy or gets it free on prescription.
Pears are what clears LO out here. And prunes.
Cadan refused most of his dinner tonight but did munch on a stick of pepper and inhale a half dozen strawberries. It is so handy now he has top and bottom teeth to bite of chunks rather than just suck it all off. It is amazing to give him foods he couldn't do much with a month or two ago and see him bite off chunks and finish the whole stick in seconds now.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: EloysH on November 21, 2010, 04:27:36 am
Got a really big poo after a trip to the chiro with tummy massage theie and plently of water for me   :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 21, 2010, 05:45:54 am
Yay for poo Eloise!!! Drrinking lots of fluids always seems to help me.  I get so busy and just forget.  Then I think back and realize all I had that day was 2 cups off coffee and 1 glass of water...not enough to make milk I've learned!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 21, 2010, 07:26:01 am
Sarah I don't think I've ever noticed seeds in bananas!

Sianie did you know there's no need to boil their drinking water? Once they've started BLW good old fresh tap water is fine. TBH they lick & suck everything anyway, I found J licking the wheel on S toy pushchair a few days ago, god knows what that's been rolled in ::)

Kim I just give willy nilly too! Runny poop here too, I'm quite looking forward to a less leaky substance!!!
 I use Metanium too, but you only need the tiniest amount as it really goes a long way. If that doesn't sort it out I go for the Canestan, it clears both my two up in less than 24 hours. I often put Canestan on and then Metanium!

I just keep offering. Fads change so fast. One day they just switch attention, S has just got over a melon addiction!

Eloise yay for poop.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on November 21, 2010, 11:14:22 am
Metanium is great. I put Vaseline on top and sore bum healed up so quickly. On the must have list like Lanisoh nipple cream was in the earlier months.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 21, 2010, 17:02:29 pm
I've never heard of metanium.  I just use Lanisoh on everything, since I didn't wind up using it much on myself.  Works for sore bums, and chapped face on my lo.  Yay Eliose for poo!!  I am pretty structured as to what I give as far as food.  Breakfast is oatmeal and a veggie, lunch is meat, veggie, fruit, dinner is meat, veggie, starch, fruit.  Sometimes I give 2 veggies, if I have on hand.  Guess I can't help my structured nature!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 21, 2010, 19:12:31 pm
Was going to say the same about the water (no need to boil it). Ellen LOVES her water (I never give her juice). She has learned the sign for it, and now she will do it just b/c I think she likes to see us understand her and get her water for her. She has a little sippy cup and she'll ask for it and then instead of drinking it, she'll hold on to it like it's her lovey or something!! ::) :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 21, 2010, 23:20:02 pm
How cute about the water!! :)  I haven't gotten T to drink out of the sippy.  He just chews on it, but doesn't suck any out.  He will take a few sips out of a cup though.

Any advice about BLW and traveling??  I am stumped.  We will be gone 8 days.  We will be driving almost every day, so we'll be eating lots of fast food.  Trouble is, most of the foods I give him are cooked.  Any ideas?  I'm hitting the grocery tomorrow.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 22, 2010, 00:56:27 am
I have not done any extensive travelling, but when we go out for the day I just make sure what I am eating is healthy and feed DD off my plate (keeps me in line ;)) Or if you are going to the grocery store, maybe grab some fruit and veggies and some steam bags (zip lock makes them) and then you can steam him some in a conveinence store (most have micro waves) They only take two or three min and you can reuse them (they say one time use, but I use them maybe thre to four times then toss) You can also steam meat in them, so you can stop at grocery stores around and but some.  Get a little handheld cooler and some cold packs.  You dont need to be doing anything fancy.  Simple carbs (cherrios, puffed rice, toast, even rice in baggies or containers)  If you have a bumbo with the seat they make good travel seats to eat off.  hth Have fun! :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 22, 2010, 00:57:37 am
Oh, and that is too cute about the water!  DD likes water, but I really need to get her a sippy with handles so she can use it on her own. 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on November 22, 2010, 11:17:28 am
Jack LOVES his sippy - but only at mealtimes. If I offer it any other time (he's got a cough just now) he doesn't want it! SO amazing to watch him grab for his water and put it in his mouth. (We gently tilt up for him)

Thanks for the tips on the Metanium - I actually have some from a baby shower so I put it to good use today!



Now. DH is freaked out about the gagging, and Jack is getting a bit upset too. The other day I oversteamed his carrot sticks and he sucked some bits off and started gagging. Today I gave him some fried egg whites and he started gagging on those pieces too. However, yesterday I steamed some carrots and took his out about 3-4 minutes before ours, and he was absolutely fine with that.   ** Is it just a case that for now I should be giving him stuff like semi-steamed carrots that won't come off in his mouth and slowly add the other? **


ALSO! Tip: I wanted to make some honey glazed ham (gammon) for dinner last night, but wanted Jack to have some too. Obviously, honey is not recommended for babies under 1yr, even when it's thoroughly cooked... SO! I did some googling and found a recipe for a honey substitue!!!  All it is is 1 1/4 C water and 1/4 C sugar, dissolved (don't have to heat) and then it's the same quantity of mixture as the recipe calls for honey! Gives the flavour and moisture that honey would!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on November 22, 2010, 22:32:03 pm
Kim I'm loving the glaze idea.

On the gagging I found cooked carrots a real problem. We just didn't give them until S could deal with them better. She wouldn't eat egg white so not an issue.

Still going slow here. He's REALLY unsettled just now, I have no idea why! It's either teething, solids, not enough solids, a bad reaction or coming down with a bug!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 22, 2010, 22:40:44 pm
Any advice about BLW and traveling??
Everything Mary said :)  We bring a cooler and bring veg, fruit, etc.  Also if you can do dairy most convenience stores carry yogurt and some sort of fruit.  And if you absolutely do not want to bring stuff, most fast food places have a healthy option.  So like I think it is Wendy's and burger king have a mandarin chicken salad and I think the chicken is grilled, or you can ask for it to be.  My girlfriend gets this for her DD.  She eats the oranges and chicken.  Then you can have the lettuce.  Add some cheerios and boom you've got a meal.
I forgot, I think it is burger king...they carry mac and cheese.  It is the kraft stuff, but we had to stop and get some for DS once. most places carry apple slices as well now.
 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on November 23, 2010, 14:21:18 pm
Oh I just thought for your cooler maybe you could get a paring knife and a small grater.  I found that DD can eat hard fruit and veg that is grated (carrots and apples etc) so that may eliminate the need for the steam bags and microwaves.  I'm sure you can find other fruit and veg to grate.  ALso some grocery stores carry pre cooked chicken and things if you are using the cooler.  Good idea with the fast food places Sarah!  The other night we ate at McDonalds and got DD a fruit and yogurt parfait and a blueberry muffin (maybe the muffin would have not been that great, I dont know how they make them)  Or if you eat at Subway, they have kids subs and you could get them to toast the bun, get chicken and tomatos, cuke, peppers etc on the side and that is a whole meal! And I would bring lots of wipes or clothes! 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on November 23, 2010, 14:30:32 pm
Thanks for all the advice everyone!!  I really haven't offered him anything other than fruit, steamed veggies, and cooked meat, so I think we may be trying lots of new food this trip.  I went to go to the grocery this morning- as I still wasn't over the stomach flu yesterday, and my truck wouldn't start.  The battery is dead :(  We leave this afternoon so I guess I'll have to try the grocery tonight.  I need to buy some mush since we are going to stay at mil's house for 2 days  ::)  I'll keep you all posted!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: olkan on November 28, 2010, 00:48:06 am
Hello!

I'm new to BLW, DD was weaned on purees and she loved it from day one, so I never actually looked around at the time. DS is 6 months old, so I tried the same thing but he rejects everything. I tried marrow, squash, sweet potato, apple and he ate one spoon, made a really disliking face :) and then refused to open his mouth again. With DD still a great eater, I was quite puzzled and started to think about BLW as DS is interested in food and tries to grab the spoon off me and put it in his mouth, but just dislikes purees. I gave him a thick aspargus today and he chewed on it for ages. So I think I'm going to give it a try. I have my first questions:
- shall I steam things like apples or pears - they are quite hard?
- how do I give berries like blueberries or grapes? I'm just scared he'll the put the whole thing in his mouth?
- how do I give runny things - DD LOVES soups and cereal, so we are having a lot of those, and we don't eat bread. Could I help him with the spoon with just the watery part of the soup (not chunks of vegetables)?
- I love spices and I taught DD to eat them from quite an early age, she's obviously not having chillies, but I do add pepper and other spices. Shall I cook without anything?

Just a general concern: DD took a while to learn to self feed, but she is totally independent now and is a VERY clean eater. She asks for a napkin and cleans herself and she hates to be dirty. We don't have bibs any more at home. I always thought that's because I'd always clean her right away when spoon feeding her or when she had finger foods, just taught her a habit. I can't imagine her getting hands into puree or mashed potato really. It was important for me to teach her food is not to be played with, and we eat neatly. So I guess I will need to brace myself to see DS getting hands into yogurt or cottage cheese)... but more importantly, if he does that, that teaches him dirty and messy is ok, will he ever develop a feeling having food all over him is not nice?

Any other first starter tips? I want to start tomorrow and see how we go from there.
TIA!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on November 28, 2010, 01:37:47 am
- shall I steam things like apples or pears - they are quite hard?
I did at the beginning when I offered wedges.  ALso, whole soft pears or peeled apples are great once they have tteth because they really can't get big chunks off.

how do I give berries like blueberries or grapes? I'm just scared he'll the put the whole thing in his mouth?
I give blueberries whole as they are really soft and just mush up.  I always cut grapes (seedless ones) in half.  DS LOVES them!

- how do I give runny things - DD LOVES soups and cereal, so we are having a lot of those, and we don't eat bread. Could I help him with the spoon with just the watery part of the soup (not chunks of vegetables)?
I often strain soup to get rid of some of the liquid and just give him a bowl of the chunks and give him a spoon to use, which he now uses a bit, but when he was younger he just used his hands.  For soups that are totally smooth (cream of potatoe or the like), I put it in a small cup and he drinks it like a smoothie.
I love spices and I taught DD to eat them from quite an early age, she's obviously not having chillies, but I do add pepper and other spices. Shall I cook without anything?
I introduced spices early too but did it as if they were new foods, so every couple of days (I know some people on here do that and others don't so i't smore of personal preference thing) to make sure they were ok.  Now he eats sooo many different flavours; it's fabulous!  Just watch salt and you're good to go.
So I guess I will need to brace myself to see DS getting hands into yogurt or cottage cheese)... but more importantly, if he does that, that teaches him dirty and messy is ok, will he ever develop a feeling having food all over him is not nice?
Yes, BLW does end to be very messy, but my DS was taught early on that food is not to be played with.  He doesn't throw food on the floor andrarely drops any there by accident.  He's now eats out of bowls and cups and plates and is gettign very good with utensils.  If he starts wo play with his food, I knwo that he's finished and take him to get cleaned up right away.  It also really depends on personality.  Soem kids are just really clean and others are messier.  Be patient with it all!
Good luck tomorrow!!  My only major suggestion is to make sure the food are all in nioce sticks or chunks that are easy to hold on to and that they are soft, but not to the point that sqeezing a bit will make them fall apart- that can be frustrating for your LO at the beginning.  It does take a bit of time for them to get the hang of things but you'll be so impressed in a month so so by how much progress your LO has made!!  have fun!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 29, 2010, 16:48:40 pm
Hey guys I have a quick question:

We are on 3 x day solids for quite some time and that is great.  The problem is I don't think she is nursing enough.  I know this is BL, but she down to only 3 BF a day and only the first in the morning seems to be a full feed.  We were doing BF first in am then food first and BF second.  I turned lunch around to BF first to see if whe would take more but it does not seem to be making a difference.

Also, should I be giving her water with her solids?  She is EBF

WWYD


Olkan-  The mess only lasted here for about the first month or so.  Now I can't even get a cute messy baby pic bc she eats everything so cleanly...even pasta with red sauce!!  She too can feed herself with a loaded spoon for some of the runnier stuff.  Throwing a table cloth or spread garbage bags under the high chair to catch what falls at first, or if you have a baby booster seat you can set on a table works great.

DD eats all of our food including spices...and that includes hot chiles.  I made Pasole last night and she loved it!!  I was worried it might be too hot but not for my little firecracker.  The only thing I change is I cook with a lot less salt which is good for all of us.
Otherwise I think PP covered everything I do as well.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: olkan on November 29, 2010, 21:04:45 pm
Thanks Ladies  all make sense. We're on for 2 days now, DS already had steamed broccoli and cauliflower, chicken, rice cracker, pasta, steamed pear, banana, melon and cereal. He really liked broccoli and chicken, disliked banana, and didn't want to touch the cereal - struggled to get handle of the rest. Choked on the pear though, but my husband was so cool telling how he put him face down and patted his back, that I reckon it wasn't too bad and probably DS could have managed without help, but DH is just such a yellow-belly in this respect. Anyway I think this is all good, DS is very interested in trying things, and the faces he's making are sooooo funny that the whole BLW is worth doing just for that iykwim ;D

I have one more question - with so many different things DS is bound to try in a short timeframe, how do I isolate potential allergic reaction cause? DD hadn't been allergic until 2.5, but DS had just one spoon of steamed carrot and his butt went all red right away, so I know he might have some allergies.

Also, I work full time and DS is getting expressed BM in a bottle while I'm away - does it make any difference? It's just that all articles specifically state that BLW is for EBF babies, and no data as to how it works on bottle-fed. He's getting a bottle of EBM during the day, wondered what is the problem with the bottle if any?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on November 29, 2010, 21:54:33 pm
Hey Olkan - I bottlefeed and do BLW. Just make sure he still gets the right amount of EBM (what is it, 20oz per day?) and it shouldn't be a problem.

Sarah - I give Ellen water with her meals b/c I myself can't stand to eat without drinking and I don't want to give her juice. I don't think it makes a difference if LO is bottle fed or breast fed as far as water goes. IMO, it's not really for the hydration so much as the being able to wash your food down, kwim?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 29, 2010, 22:05:49 pm
I definitely give water with solids. Like Megan says to wash the food down but also so Cadan can practise drinking from a cup and get use to having drinks with meals. I think, certainly in the later months, they do need extra fluids for hydration. Especially if she is already only BFing 3x per day. The WHO's recommended level is at least 4x day until at least 10mo. That is a long time to go without a drink if she isn't having water too I think.
We do BF at 7.30, 13.30 and 7.15 and solids 9.00, 11.00 (snack), 14.30 and 18.00 roughly depending on whether we do 1 or 2 naps.
 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 29, 2010, 23:17:22 pm
Thanks ladies
What I have done today bc I still did not like the idea of her nursing so little, was I had to express some bm and I gave it to her in her sippy and she drank it all down with a big smile on her face.  I think the main problem is she is spirited and can't be bothered to sit and nurse when there are so many other things to do.  Even if I sit and nurse her in her room, she will just keep sitting up and talking and trying to jump out of my arms.  I took it as she was not hungry for the milk and did not want it.
I don't pump a ton about 3-4oz, but I think I will try this and see how it goes.  With her being MSPI I want her to nurse for quite some time and I will pump for sippy drinking so i guess why not just start now!!  It really is no different than supplementing with a bottle I suppose.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 29, 2010, 23:42:24 pm
That is a really good amount for her to be taking from a sippy at such a young age Sarah. Cadan is very distracted and eats best when I nurse him immediately upon waking for the day and from naps in a dim room with just the two of us in there. Otherwise forget it!

Cadan helped himself to a wasabi pea and liked it! Pulled a funny face though. Wish I had had the camera handy.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on November 30, 2010, 03:12:29 am
That's great Sarah that she is taking that much from a sippy. I need to work on the sippy cup! Baker was off bottles at 11 months and on a sippy...and I don't see Myla going in that direction. She has no clue what to do with her sippy cups, We've tried every single one!
  To cute about the wasabi pea:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 30, 2010, 03:37:57 am
Have you tried the straw type sippy?  Playtex makes nice ones!  They are nice bc both my kids seemed to get the idea of sucking through a straw, but Ryan only figured out a regular sippy a few months ago.  Also, bc you don't tip like the other sippy, it is easy to transition to an open cup.  Now at 20mo Ry uses mainly an open top cup except in the mrning when he gets a big cup of milk.  I think bc they do not do the BIG tipping action Ry figured out the cup quick.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 30, 2010, 10:38:55 am
Hi all!

We do the same...E has water with his meals, apart from breakfast when he sometimes has some of DD's fruit smoothie which he loves!

Well E has been feeding a bit better so I'm feeling a bit more positive! He's been eating what we eat generally (varying amounts depending on what it is!). I'm really conscious of salt amounts & use herbs & spices as much as possible.....I think LO's can have max of 1g of salt a day? How much (if any) do you add to your cooking, find it really hard to know!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on November 30, 2010, 17:13:49 pm
Baker could only ever use the straw ones till he was about 18 months and fiqured out the tipping of the other ones. But Myla can't fiqure out the straw part either! If I lay her down with a sippy cup she will drink from it, but that kind of defeats the purpose of her using it with a meal...oh well..I will just keep trying and introduce it at every meal..eventually she should pick it up and fiqure it out..I hope! Maybe I could try a big kid cup with no lid...she would maybe get that? Hmmm....
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on November 30, 2010, 18:39:22 pm
I have been giving El a big kid cup about once a day. She kind of gets it and then just plays and let's water roll out of her mouth.

Well TMI, but I think the problem was me not El.  I think AF was mucking up my supply.  El likes a fast flow and if it is not coming quick enough she just stops BFing.  Today we seem to be back on track with 4 BFs.

Salt and sugar wise I am not sure.  8 don't do the best of limiting either.  This is my rule of thumb, if I use canned veggies or something out of a box that I know has salt I add none (unless it is a huge pot of soup and then I just put a tiny touch on the meat) then if it is just fresh ingredients I use just a bit for a little flavor and add some on mine after.  I use about 1/4 the amount I used to use when cooking.
I am not a believer that sugar is evil as long as it is in moderation.  I also don't want it to become "the forbidden fruit" that they seek out somewhere else.  So elise has already had a crumb of homade cookie and I let Ry have one for a special treat or special snack.  Sometmes just because 8 will let Ry have graham cracker sticks as part of his lunch.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on November 30, 2010, 20:35:18 pm
Sarah, I do the same with soups & stews! And I agree about sugar...if you don't allow it it comes back to bite you when they get a bit older & start going to birthday parties etc which are always a sugar fest!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on November 30, 2010, 21:56:11 pm
I don't add salt  at all if Cadan is eating with us. We rarely add salt anyway and I use other flavours like garlic, chillie or herbs/spices. I do use stock in stews etc which obviously has lots of salt but try not to give Cadan the gravy part. 1g is such a small amount (it's 2g/day once they are over 1yo BTW) and most things, even BM and veggies, already have salt (sodium) in so they get all the salt they need from those foods. I worry about salt more than sugar as too much salt can kill a baby whereas sugar is just not that healthy a habit to get into needing I think. Most of the sugar C gets is from fruit or baby cereals but he has the odd 1/2 cookie at playgroup when I can't avoid it and also likes fromage frais sweetened by fruit juice/puree. Sugary snacks will be an occasional treat rather than an everyday occurence. My sister lets my niece and nephews (6 and 10yo) have choclate bars, biscuits and cake every day! Then wonders why they don't eat their dinners. I think that is crazy 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on November 30, 2010, 23:58:05 pm
with so many different things DS is bound to try in a short timeframe, how do I isolate potential allergic reaction cause?
2 options, really- 1)introduce foods slowly, givign them 2-3 days in a  row to see if there is a reaction or 2) write down everything you feed him and if you see some kind of reaction start trying things again 1 at a time to isolate the cause.  TBH, I went with the first option for DS and after a month or so went from giving new foods every 2-3 dyas to 1 day and then a couple of new foods a day.  I kept a list of foods and watched to see if there were any reactions.

I started offering a bit of water with every meal as soon as we started solids.  DS drinks some at each meal, but not that much even now- maybe 1/4 cup or so?  If there's spice, he will do more!! 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 01, 2010, 15:16:01 pm
Well, we have successfully dropped a bottle and are now on 4 a day plus solids... She's eating a lot more (thanks to all those who listened when I complained she didn't eat anything and gave me encouragement!). I think she's eating more b/c I did what you all suggested and just gave her solids instead of her bottle at bottle time instead of waiting until in between bottles when she wasn't really hungry. Duh ::)

Anyone have a good idea for crackers? I feel like the saltines are just empty carbs (like white bread), the graham crackers are too sugary, and the wheat saltines don't come unsalted... but she loves crackers!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Ali* on December 01, 2010, 15:23:03 pm
Do you get Jaccobs cream crackers there Megan? They are nice especially with butter  and marmite or grated cheese. Or would she eat rice cakes?
Glad to hear Ellen is eating more.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 01, 2010, 16:24:18 pm
Megan-Earths Best organics make a graham stick and they are 5g sugar for 11 pieces and Ry usually only has about 5 and El has 1-2 so that is really a quite low sugar count at that point.  They also make all sorts of other crackers that are low in sugar and sodium
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 01, 2010, 16:36:24 pm
Wow I'll have to look at the Earth's Best. And I guess that'd be a good place to start, huh... the cracker aisle at the grocery store... ? ::) hehe ;D It just takes so long to sort thru all the choices and she gets impatient with grocery shopping by the time we're done, and that's without stopping to browse.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 01, 2010, 16:56:33 pm
Good job Ellen on dropping a feed and upping solids!! That's great news:)
As far as crackers, we use Earthe best also, and she loves rice cakes cut up into peices..
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: sianie on December 01, 2010, 17:21:49 pm
Great that Ellen is eating better!!  ;D

We also use organic stock cubes for babies which are extremely low salt...handy for cooking!

I made a risotto for dinner & E loved it!!! Am in shock!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 01, 2010, 19:26:56 pm
Well, after I said that, she ate about two bites of lunch and then tried to feed ME the rest!

I went to Target today and while I was there I tried to find some crackers... I couldn't find any that either didn't have tons of sugar or tons of salt. I didn't have long to look though, b/c like I said, Miss Impatient-At-The-Grocery-Store wouldn't let me. I didn't get to the baby food aisle either to get some Earth's Best and see what else they had... sigh. Another time I guess. :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 01, 2010, 23:12:07 pm
ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

DH told me the other day he loves chicken pot pie... I never knew that. Great! New recipe for me to make - I've been looking forward to making it all week. What do I do (as I'm trying to go light on the salt for Ellen)????

I SPILL THE GARLIC SALT IN IT!!!!!   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Now it has too much salt for ANY of us!!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Whatbit on December 01, 2010, 23:50:41 pm
That's crummy, Megan!  Hugs!! 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on December 02, 2010, 03:18:21 am
Too bad megan!  I dont know how runny you make you pot pie, but I have read that if you cook a potato (like a peeled halfed one or two) in soup or stew that you put too much salt it, it will absorb a bunch of it and make it edible again. 

Lisa~ What store do you buy earths best in canada?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: gogomama on December 02, 2010, 05:38:16 am
Re crackers I found a good alternative to be  rusk. DS really likes them and they are great for teething or when we go out because he can just suck on it for ages :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 02, 2010, 06:24:15 am
Mary~ They carry it at Sobey's grocery store, and Save on foods!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on December 02, 2010, 15:32:39 pm
I dont have either of those here, we have No Frills, Zehrs, and some independant ones so I will have to check around maybe.  Zehrs is kinda high end, so maybe there?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 02, 2010, 21:37:33 pm
Well, the pot pie turned out edible... I gave it to Ellen anyway and she ate a good bit. :) I've heard that about the potatoes too, but it already had all the potatoes in it - maybe that's why it turned out ok.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 02, 2010, 22:53:48 pm
only problem for us with rusks is most have"trace" milk in them and El reacted to them.  Although I think somone here has a recipe...if you wouldn't mind sharing?? :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 03, 2010, 04:28:45 am
Sarah~ we give Myla the Toddler mum mum cookies. Oddly enough, the Toddler rusks have no milk, but the baby ones do...strange! She doesn't react to them at all:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: gogomama on December 03, 2010, 21:20:29 pm
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=151007.0
Sarah I found this thread with some dairy free rusk recipes. Hopefuuly it works bc I'm pasting from my phone:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on December 04, 2010, 15:28:11 pm
Oooo chatty ladies! I've a lot to catch up on.

Welcome to everyone just starting BLW, sorry I can't remember names. Someone was asking about steaming apples and things, I don't, I just wait until they have teeth for really hard fruit. Pears I give once they're ripe and juicy I just leave the skin on to make it easier to pick up. I also don't do one new food at a time, just crack on with a variety!
 
For sweet foods we never give DD juice, she's only ever had water. We never gave any chocolate, biscuits, cake or crisps at the start as we agreed that she doesn't need them, also she's a complete pig and eats so much anyway! Don't get me wrong we're not the fun police, as she's got older we let her nibble on some goodies. Although I was amazed earlier in the year when I said to DH let's have a cup of tea and a biscuit, DD practically ran to the pantry cupboard shouting 'bikit' repeatedly! I looked at DH and said 'she's had one!' Now if we eat chocolate she'll smell it across the room and ask for some!!! She would eat a whole pack of biscuits if given half a chance!
  It's quite nice now she's older we enjoy things together more. Yesterday we shared a cup of tea (decaf obviously) and chocolate covered rich tea biscuit!

DS has started crying for food now. He's a bit more fussy at meals, certainly not a gannet like his sister but he's getting there!
 I can't remember who was asking about mess and manners. The way I see it is in the early days they learn through play, DD never played with food until she had had enough! Peas make good fun, some squash, some flick like tiddlywinks! She was a messy eater in that she found her mouth by rubbing down her face! The mess DS makes is AMAZING! What he doesn't swallow gets pulverised & dribbles out! We always enforce manners with her but the spirited monkey likes to try it on, licking off the plate, spitting her water is a new (very annoying) thing! Thankfully dropping and throwing has stopped!!
 
I don't think BLW encourages bad habits, it's definitely a personality thing, you can only guide and teach your values.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on December 04, 2010, 18:56:35 pm
Any ideas about how to use EBM in a BLW way? I'm expressing at old DF time to keep up supply so I can have EBM for DD when I'm back to work but it's too early to start saving it up so I'm accumulating a bit. Is it ok to cook with it?? eg add to a sauce for pasta (if eaten right away and not saved) etc. DH suggested EBM frozen as a milky ice lolly lol!

thanks!

Ruth
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on December 04, 2010, 19:13:06 pm
Sorry Ruth I can't help with recipes. I imagine if you heat it too much it will kill off all the goodies from your immunity!
 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 04, 2010, 19:24:20 pm
It is my understanding that you can use it to cook with anyway you want in place of milk, like mashed with potatoes or other veg.

El had her first whole apple yesterday and loved it! I had to take it from her when she got to the core and she screamed for it back
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on December 04, 2010, 19:33:10 pm
Marsha- yeah I think heating isn't good from the nutrition point of view if I was giving her it as main drink or to boost food. I guess I'm just looking for anyway to use it up-I hate wasting it!

I'll try using it with mashed potato and then making little balls of it so she can hold it!

Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on December 04, 2010, 20:46:42 pm
What about putting a little onto a rusk?


We had tacos tonight, so I just put some cheese, tomatoes, peppers, flour tortilla, and ground beef with cumin on J's tray... messiest meal we've had so far! I know he's too young for pincer grip for the ground beef, but I thought why not give him the chance to try?

It was so amazing, this morning for lunch we had turkey soup that DH made from the Thanksgiving leftovers, and we dipped some bread strips in the soup and gave to J. He LOVED it and wouldn't let go! Then when DH offered a piece of turkey to J, he didn't want to open his fist so he (if you can picture it!) had his fist around the bread and just released his forefinger and took the turkey piece from DH using his forefinger and thumb!!! Amazing!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 04, 2010, 20:53:40 pm
I know he's too young for pincer grip for the ground beef, but I thought why not give him the chance to try?
You never know.  Both T and F could pick up things with their pincher grasp on the first try at 7mos.  F is already a pro at picking up things like small pieces of ground beef!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 04, 2010, 21:19:17 pm
Kim-how cute! I agree El has had an ability to pick up small things since about 7mo.  She just has gotten better at opening her hand to get it in her mouth.  Keep offering, I bet he will surprise you soon enough

I foorgot to say Ry offered El a sip of his milk which she gladly took (I think) and it did not go nearly as awful as I envisioned. She is for sure more refluxy and she had 20 min naps for 1 day, but she did not scream the entire time ans in fact shee seems ok now. It has been just over 2 days. Clearly not ready, but I am hopeful as that was straight cows milk. 

I also have found a great product for me...So Delicious makes coconut milk creamer for coffee and it tastes great! Maybe that is bc I have not had dairy cream in so long I cznt remember and it makes it so much better than just black coffee!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on December 05, 2010, 01:56:15 am
Hi everyone!

Sarah- Yay for the small reaction to the milk!

Marsha-So glad you are enjoying sharing food with your daughter!! :)

New mommy- I don't have any recipe advice either- but using it to replace milk as PP said I'm sure would be a great way to use it.


Kim- I agree with Martina as T started to be able to pick small things up at around 7 months.  He can now get the ground meat and puffed rice cereal into his mouth as he has learned to open his hand.  The tacos sound yummy!

I love that feeding T encourages me to try new foods.  I've had several avocado's- something I wouldn't normally eat, and today I tried parsnips.  I have to say I was surprised that they were pretty tasty!

Does anyone know where the BLW recipe thread went?  I am getting tired of preparing the same old things for T!  I need some inspiration!

Is it normal for babies to start to want their food in smaller chunks?  T has been squeezing the heck out of his chunks, and squashing it into his tray.  He'll eat it easily if it is mashed on a spoon, or in smaller chunks.  We are still doing some mush and some finger foods.  I have to say it seems like he eats a lot more mush.  Is that normal?  I only ask because I am going to try to get our NF's under control, and I am always worried he isn't getting enough food since he is so little.

Lastly- when did you all start giving crackers?  I offered him one today, and he was really gagging.  All the food he has had up till this point has been fairly mushy.  Maybe he just doesn't know how to eat it yet?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 05, 2010, 02:00:39 am
Amy, here is the one that Sarah started awhile back.  Still pretty bare, but maybe all you ladies would like to jump on and contribute and we'll see if we can get it going again!  :)
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=178221.0
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 05, 2010, 17:30:51 pm
Amy - Ellen loves to smash her food too (usually when she's almost done eating) and loves even more to squash it between her two palms and rub them together to get a really good puree ;D hehe She doesn't usually eat it after she does that, but I think it's all part of the learning process - she's learning about textures and what her hands can do, etc. I can't say anything about the NF, and I always worry that E doesn't get enough either, but I would say that IMO it doesn't really matter if he's eating mush/small chunks versus bigger pieces, just as long as he's eating, kwim? And I think crackers were one of the first things I gave Ellen after mush, so 6mo maybe? If he's gagging that's ok, he'll learn quick and get really good at eating them really soon. He's gotta learn sometime!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on December 05, 2010, 21:03:28 pm
Re: recipies, I HAVE GOT THE BLW COOKBOOK!!! Martina - from a Mod perspective, can I post the recipies here if I attribute them to the book?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 05, 2010, 21:05:42 pm
Kim, I don't see why not as long as you are listing the book.  I'll double check.  Why don't you post them on the BLW recipes thread that Sarah started and I'll sticky it into the Baby Food Recipes Forum.  :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on December 05, 2010, 21:10:58 pm
You got it, sista! I'll post them there in the next few days and you can delete them if it's a problem!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 06, 2010, 00:39:49 am
So I have stickied Sarah's BLW recipe thread into the Baby Food Recipes forum so that it's easy to find for those who are looking for new ideas!  Make sure you all head on over and add all your favorite recipes!  However I do ask that you post recipes only on that thread and keep all the BLW chatter here.  I'm counting on all of you to fill it up with yummy ideas!  ;)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on December 06, 2010, 16:53:48 pm
Thank you for starting up the BLW recipe thread again!!  There are a few good recipes in there already that I am eager to try!  I can't wait to see more!

Today I gave T a piece of cracker rather than the whole thing, and he dealt with that a whole lot easier.  He is currently refusing peaches and pears.  I am trying to make sure he eats those so he doesn't get constipated.  Oh well.

 He is currently loving avocados.  What are your lo's fav. foods right now??
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: yaely jelly belly on December 06, 2010, 17:45:39 pm
I have two qustions please,
1. is off topic- why are people writing opps my spot????
2. what is BLW usualy in other boards there are links explaining the concept.
thank you ladies
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 06, 2010, 18:00:50 pm
Hi there.  To answer your second question, here is a link about BLW:  http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=92560.0
As for your first question, sometimes someone will mark their spot on a thread by typing 'm@rking' (I originally typed it as is and forgot about the censor, and it came out 'oops!!', how's that for funny - as I'm explaining it I go ahead and type it!).  This word is censored and technically it's considered bad taste to mark a thread, so in it's place appears 'oops!'.  
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 06, 2010, 18:31:00 pm
Kim that is awesome!!  It is still on preorder here in the States until Jan 1

I forgot who asked, but we have been doing smaller chunks for about a month and half now and El likes it a lot better.

We were out of town this weekend and on the way home we stopped for lunch and it was a huge milestone...it was the first meal in a restaurant where no one was crying, everyone including Ry ate well, I got to finish my plate and we all left happy!!  Miracles do happen :D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 06, 2010, 22:16:29 pm
Yay Sarah! That's a rare occasion to celebrate!!  We've had 1 dinner out like that so far, ..so peaceful:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on December 06, 2010, 22:36:45 pm
I didnt realise it was in bad taste to m@ark your spot on a thread, better stop doing that! :-[
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 06, 2010, 23:20:32 pm
lol Mary don't worry it still gets done by most people! 
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 07, 2010, 00:14:38 am
Me either Mary :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on December 07, 2010, 02:35:16 am
Hmm, I didn't know you weren't supposed to mark your spot either.  I was wondering why people where typing opps!

Sarah- that was me about the chunks.  I think T is liking them smaller now too! 
 
Yay Sarah and Lisa about eating out!  We've had some good experiences here too!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Lola's Mum on December 07, 2010, 22:33:12 pm
That's so funny about the 'oops'. Why is it in bad taste though to want to be on the latest thread and ma@rking a spot? On a more BLW note l wondered if others with experience of a LO around Lola's age had been through the defient throwing of food off the highchair. She did it ages ago and l saw it as all part of the learning experience. It then used to mark the end of the meal when she started throwing food off. It's now more a display of defiance. Not sure at this age if l should kind of tell her off or ignore it. Today she did it and l just said to her that it's going to take me much longer to clear up now so you'll have to stay in the highchair longer. Nt that she could understand me.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: yaely jelly belly on December 08, 2010, 04:52:31 am
thank you for the explanation. it is funy.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on December 08, 2010, 07:49:19 am
Sophie the throwing thing is definitely defiance! We had about 6 months of it :-\ We tried EVERYTHING, unfortunately it's a difficult one to beat. We found ignoring the best option, don't even make eye contact with her! Obviously that can be messy so the next best tip is intervention, as soon as the throwing arm comes up take her food away, finished or not!
Nt that she could understand me.
You'll be amazed. If it's anything like S she probably understands every word you say!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 09, 2010, 20:03:34 pm
Question: Does anyone give their LO FF or BM with meals or in a sippy? Do you do it at bottle temperature or chilled? I want her to start getting used to drinking milk with meals so she can start weaning off the bottle eventually but I'm not sure how to do it... she didn't like it cold yesterday or warm today... ??

This might not be the board for this question, but when do people usually start weaning off the bottle entirely? We're still on 4 a day (down from 5!!)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on December 09, 2010, 20:09:48 pm
Megan, I think this link might have an answer for you:  http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=67398.0
You can give formula or BM in a sippy, but keep in mind a lot gets wasted when LOs are learning how to use it, so only put a bit in at a time.  :)  I honestly can't remember what we did with T.  :P  Maybe some other moms can share what they do.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 09, 2010, 20:14:34 pm
Thanks Martina! I was also just looking at the post for routines for 10-12 month olds. Looks like what I'm doing is pretty similar to a lot of other moms, which is good to know. I'll definitely check out that link you posted - I appreciate it!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 09, 2010, 21:24:03 pm
Megan~my son was onto 2 bottles a day at 10 months and a sippy at meals. Then 2 days before his 1st birthday I pulled the bottle cold turkey and went to a sippy for his meals and before bed, and he wasn't bothered at all. But I still warmed up his sippy of milk until he was about 18 months. Even now at 3 he sometimes ask me to warm up his glass of milk..lol. I think it's a comfort thing:) Good luck!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 10, 2010, 01:25:38 am
I guess I'll just keep offering it and probably do it warm since that's what she's used to. Although it'd be much easier for me if she'd take it cold!! She's not feeling well or eating much these days anyway, so maybe when she starts feeling better she'll start taking it from a sippy.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on December 11, 2010, 10:51:25 am
Megan S just gradually took less & less milk. When I went back to work (she was 8 months) she had a 5oz bottle at 1pm and another at 4pm. She just stopped taking that 4pm one! The lunch time bottle got to where she was drinking 1 or 2 oz by 10 months so we stopped it. She fed on me twice a day at that point. Once we dropped the bf she had two bottles a day, she started taking less & less in the morning so at 16 months we stopped that! The little swine will not relinquish that bedtime bottle though! She refused all other bottles and woke early when tried without so we're currently watering it down & reducing it! Hopefully she'll get the hint soon!

Ok we're having 'manners' issues with S! She's suddenly shovelling food down at speed making herself almost choke, very annoying! I know it's a phase, just hope it ends soon!

J is eating more. His style is swill it round your mouth, attempt to chew then deposit down ones bib! It's always smaller so some is going down, messy though!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on December 11, 2010, 20:39:58 pm
Ry is doing what S is doing, but his is accompanied by "coooookie" modeling after his fave, cookie monster.  I am sure I will fight that battle soon enough, but for now it gets food in him so I am happy ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: newmummy82 on December 18, 2010, 18:40:04 pm
Hi!
Just popping on to say that am loving BLW at the moment. We didn't intend to do it but have a spoon refuser at 6 months so pretty much had to. We weren't doing 100% BLW and still offered stuff from a spoon just in case. At 7 months she was taking some off a spoon but now at 8 months is refusing again so thank goodness we have BLW to use.

She ate 10 peas yesterday! Hooray for the pincer grip!! Also, so easy to go out for lunch today as DH and I could eat and leave her to feed herself (well, pretty much but miles easier than spooning everything in).
My HV was asking about it this week and it sounds like the 'official' opinion is changing in the UK and BLW is accepted and even encouraged!
So worth perseving plus no worries about introducing lumps etc.

Am so encouraged!

Ruth
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on December 22, 2010, 23:49:01 pm
Yay Ruth glad you're enjoying it ;D The pincer grip is great for eating and house work, S used to pick up & nibble all tiny bits of fluff so I had to hoover lots :-X J is totally ham fisted in comparison, by this age she was delicately picking up every morsel off the tray, no chance for him yet, still shoving huge lumps towards his face with most dropping out! I'm so glad I weaned her first, I might have been discouraged already!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on December 25, 2010, 21:52:52 pm
Any other Christmas dinner BLW babies?! Jack enjoyed some turkey, asparagus, broccoli, peas, and a prawn!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Mrs Coops on December 25, 2010, 23:27:55 pm
My Jack enjoyed turkey, roast potatoes, broccoli, cauliflower & a brussel sprout! It always sounds a lot but most ends up pulverised down his bib ::)

~~~ MERRY CHRISTMAS ~~~
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 26, 2010, 01:56:57 am
Ha. Ellen wouldn't eat a bite at my family's yesterday nor DH's family today. ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 26, 2010, 04:40:19 am
Myla enjoyed ham, turkey, brocolli, stuffing, cranberries and homemade buns!! She ate her entire tray. She loves the holidays like her mama:)
Happy holidays everyone!!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 26, 2010, 22:21:16 pm
I'm SO jealous of all you ladies who have LOs who enjoy eating. We've gone down from 5 bottles to 4 and now to 3 and I can still hardly get her to eat solids. Today it had been 5hrs with just a cracker and a few raisins. We went out to eat Italian and she ate a bit of bread and some of my pasta, but then started absolutely refusing everything. I have pasta all over the front of my shirt to prove it ::) She then came home and drank 8oz.

Last night, because she wouldn't eat any solids all day - even with all that good food!!! - she had TWO bedtime bottles. She was just mucking around in her crib for 40 min and I knew it was b/c she was still hungry and not b/c she wasn't tired, so I went in there with another full bottle and she almost polished it off and then went right to sleep.

Maybe in the past, you could blame it on me giving too much milk and/or giving milk first, but not anymore. We went cold turkey on the breakfast bottle over a week ago, and she STILL won't eat much breakfast or hardly anything else for the rest of the day. WHY WON'T SHE EAT???
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on December 27, 2010, 17:55:39 pm
Hugs Megan!~ I have a girlfriend who's daughter flat out refused solids until she was about 1 year.Then out of nowhere she decided she didn't want her milk and she was all over solids. So maybe Ellen will be like that? Do you think it's the textures she doesn't like? My sister is a Occupational Therapist and she works with alot of babies who have texture issues and therefore don't like the feel of food in there hands/ mouth or tummies. She said it's strange, but very common! I'm sure Ellen doesn't have texture issues...but just thought I'd put that out there if any other moms didn't know about that!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on December 27, 2010, 18:11:46 pm
She might, but I don't really think so. Definitely not with her hands - she loves to roll her food between both hands and get it everywhere. And she'll eat lots of different textures, but just not much of anything. Hey I read on the 7-9 BC post (that I'm not technically on anymore!) that Myla said kitty... that's so cool!! It's crazy - that was the first thing Ellen said! That and hot. She still doesn't say mama or dada, but every time she sees a kitty she gets all excited and says keee. And when she sees the stove or my coffee cup, she'll say haaaaa.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: *Liz* on January 02, 2011, 19:03:47 pm
Ugh. Megan isn't keen on a spoon so we are wandering over here  ::). Little miss independent!!

So far she has rice crackers, pear, banana, chicken, turkey, peas, gluten free breadsticks.

Now the holidays are over I will try harder. Not easy when she can't have anything I eat due to allergies.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on January 02, 2011, 20:36:48 pm
Good luck, Liz! Maybe she's a herbivore...  ;D ???    ::)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on January 02, 2011, 21:46:21 pm
Lisa-I think that Ry has the texture problem!  Did not know about that but have been thinking that I wanted to talk to his Dr. about that very thng!  Didn't know an OT can help with that.  Do you know what they do to help kids get over the texture thing?
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on January 02, 2011, 23:09:41 pm
Megan - I'm not here much anymore as my LO is nearly 15 months but I just wanted to send you HUGS and let you know I know how you feel! My LO hardly eats a thing and she's tiny tiny - just 18 lbs. But she's perfectly healthy and happy (for the most part!) so I just roll with it. I offer her several foods at each meal and start with the ones I think she won't like.  ;) But other than that she eats a lot of the same thing - blueberreis, mac-n-cheese, pb&j... I really do think it's just a phase tho and she will learn to like foods slowly along the way. For example - when other LOs were chowing down sandwhiches my LO would not even touch bread. But suddenly out of the blue - like pp said - she decided bread was OK after all - that was only about a month ago.
I did just want to mention that teething makes a huge difference here - she'll hardly eat a thing when she's teething but also she likes all her food cold when she's teething. Then again, even when she's not teething I'm sometimes amused that she'll refuse something warmed up but take it cold. She's independent and stubborn (I blame it all on DH) so I figure I'm just getting a little taste of the long road ahead lol! :D
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on January 04, 2011, 01:35:36 am
Jaci, thanks :) I think teething must make a huge difference here too b/c the very day after her top tooth FINALLY poked thru (she now has one top and one bottom!!) she started eating a lot more. She's still picky, and she doesn't usually like hot foods either (cold or luke warm is what she prefers) but she's actually eating now. FX it continues!! And just like yours, she seems to have her favorite few foods and that's all she'll eat. Funny thing is they're mostly white or yellowish. Don't know if that's coincidence or not b/c sometimes she'll eat other colors and there are lots of white or yellow foods she won't eat.
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: inoella on January 04, 2011, 02:35:04 am
mostly white or yellowish
bread and cheese - YUM! :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Hester on January 04, 2011, 17:39:20 pm
xx want to read up on you all before I start :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: timmysmommy on January 06, 2011, 16:10:38 pm
Hugs Megan! Hope your lo gets more adventurous soon!  Glad to hear the tooth is out!  T is also fissure now he is teething. Sometimes he'll burst into tears in the midst of eating.  I think his gums get sore and hurt when something bumps it.  He likes cold food right now too.

Just wanted to update that MIL was perfectly fine with T eating real food at Christmas.  I think the big pieces were what freaked her out in the beginning.  I give T small pieces now as he started refusing the big chunks.  She didn't seem the least bit concerned.  Nice to know that stress is over!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on January 06, 2011, 17:14:48 pm
She might, but I don't really think so. Definitely not with her hands - she loves to roll her food between both hands and get it everywhere. And she'll eat lots of different textures, but just not much of anything. Hey I read on the 7-9 BC post (that I'm not technically on anymore!) that Myla said kitty... that's so cool!! It's crazy - that was the first thing Ellen said! That and hot. She still doesn't say mama or dada, but every time she sees a kitty she gets all excited and says keee. And when she sees the stove or my coffee cup, she'll say haaaaa.

That is to adorable that she says "haaaa". i'm so excited for cute words and all that:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Kimberlina on January 06, 2011, 19:27:38 pm
Hooray about your MIL, Amy!

Jack had cottage pie for dinner tonight and couldn't get it into his mouth quick enough! Properly hand-over-fist! Oh, and did you know that cottage pie and orange segment AT THE SAME TIME is where it's at?! We'll call it, cottage pie a la Jack! :D

My MIL confessed the other day that at first, she wasn't very comfortable (bless her for going along with it anyway!) but said that she's totally converted now! J was sat with a lamb chop in his fist and happy as larry! HOORAY!
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~Sarah~ on January 06, 2011, 19:39:26 pm
Well the best eater in the world has hit a slow patch.  Her next 2 top teeth are coming inin and she really is not eating now I guess.  I will give her her faves and she just squishes it and throws it on the floor.  She will still eat frozen blueberries though
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: Meditrina on January 06, 2011, 23:51:39 pm
We are only eating frozen blueberries, strawberries, peas and carrots  :( Poor girl is teething so bad, screamed thru supper tonight.  Also she is loving icy cold water in her sippy.   ;)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bug_blues70 on January 07, 2011, 00:27:24 am
! Oh, and did you know that cottage pie and orange segment AT THE SAME TIME is where it's at?! We'll call it, cottage pie a la Jack!
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LOL that truly made me laugh out loud!!!!


That is to adorable that she says "haaaa". i'm so excited for cute words and all that:)

It's funny too b/c she gets this really serious look on her face and opens her mouth really wide to say it. And she'll hold up her hand palm out facing the hot thing, hehe :) Still no mama or dada tho!!

Good luck on the teething Sarah!! I hope they come in quick! Ellen's took about 4 weeks I think, b/c that's how long she was not acting herself before those teeth poked thru. Do you guys with teethers let your LOs suck on ice? Ellen loves it - she'll come steal it out of our cups if we let her :)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: bakershaker on January 07, 2011, 04:55:02 am
Hugs on the teeth Sarah, Myla's top 4 all came in at the same time, and it took a good 3-4 weeks. Once the first 2 were in, the other 2 just popped right in, but eating definatly slowed down at that time, bottles and solids.

For teething,a good one for babies on yogurt already is those yogurt tubes frozen...Baker absolutly loves them when he was teething. I'll bring that idea out when Myla gets her next set of teeth:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on January 07, 2011, 14:02:19 pm
Time for a fresh thread!  Continued here:  http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=184657.0
:)
Title: Re: Baby Lead Weaning Support Thread - Part 7
Post by: ~inbalance~ on January 07, 2011, 14:02:53 pm
:)