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EAT => Food Allergies => Topic started by: Buntybear on April 19, 2011, 22:06:04 pm
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Hi,
We still don't get many STTNs and I wonder if there is still something in his diet bothering him.
He can get very windy and this wakes him at night. At the mo we have also noticed that after his evening dinner he gets a round, hard belly. Not sure if this is normal for LOs? ???
His diet today
B - GF oats and oat milk, apple and banana fruit pot
S - banana
L - BN squash roasted fingers, steamed carrot fingers, refused pork, blueberries
S - flapjack bar http://www.organix.com/goodies/our-foods/carrot-cake
D - GF pasta, roast chicken and pork pieces, peas, sweetcorn, carrot, melon, 4oz oat milk
BT - another 4oz oat milk
Is anything jumping out? I am thinking of cutting oats but as you can see we do rely on them quite heavily throughout the day.
A particulary bad evening so far. We thought a night terror for the screaming but he has been passing gas too. :'(
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I don't think the hard tummy is normal, I think it sounds like a sore tummy, but that's jsut my oppinion, someone else may say the opposite. Lets see what others say.
Do you think we should put this on Food Allergies board since we are not talking reflux, you might get more eyes there ?
The only thing that jumps out is the oats and the salicylates. It seems the round hard belly is the newer symtpom and the oat milk quantitiy has increased within the last month since he was weaned? It seems that the sals have been in his diet a long time without this hard tummy and windiness?
Would it be possible to replace the oat milk with almond milk or formula for a week and see what happens? Also, I would be soaking those oats for 8 hours (the night before). It removes the phytic acid and thus it is waaayy easier to digest and allows the gut to actually properly absorb the nutrients that the grain has to offer.
I am also wondering about fructose.... Jenny's son here suffered from a hard tummy (and from memory wind too) for the longest time and when she cut back to low fructose his hard tummy and unsettledness got much much better. I'll try to find her for you!
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Hi. I put the thread here as it is prob more intolerance than allergy :P
I do microwave the oats, would that be ok? I think I might remove oats for a week and see if that helps. Have found a rice and buckwheat cereal that is similar to his beloved porridge. Will replace milk with maybe hemp or rice. Can rice milk be binding?
Would be interested about the fructose. :)
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Here I am!
If I remember right Olly has always had bad gas that keeps him awake at night hasn't he? Have you ever had 'a good patch' or has something always been troubling him?
As Eloise said I have a feeling that J has fructose malabsorption. We still haven't had it confirmed yet (a combination of DH not realising the extent of the situation until recently ::) (since he's been fine for months and months now, but because I'm only feeding him things I know he can tolerate) and dietitians being hard to get appointments with after our earthquake) but we hope to get an appointment sometime soon!
Anyway, Olly's diet actually looks quite similar to J's. The things that stood out as high in fructose are:
Apple (one of THE worst things for fructose malabsorption along with pear and honey)
Melon
and from the bar raisins and apple juice. Not sure maybe the coconut too ???
J's symptoms are he gets a rock hard tummy and just SCREAMS and SCREAMS. An episode usually lasts about 45mins sometimes a bit longer. Thankfully they are rare now (though DH wants to do some blind trials where he feeds J pear without be knowing so that my interpretations aren't biased (he wants to rule out the placebo effect), so I'm expecting to deal with it again soon ::) Ugh DH!) but I found them really horrible and heartbreaking to deal with.
I think we see the consequences of a bad food within a few hours. Probably up to about 12. The other day J swiped E's pear at 5pm and at 3am he woke screaming which is so rare for him. Back when he was younger we used to give him a tiny bit of pear with his losec for reflux morning and night. He would have a screaming attack in the night every night then as well as in the mid morning.
Is he allergic to wheat rather than just intolerant? Because it is very common to react to fructose and wheat I believe because wheat contains fructans which are related to fructose. But that would be intolerance rather than allergy.
Here's some info I have found about fructose malabsorption
http://www.healthhype.com/low-fructose-diet-in-fructose-malabsorption.html
http://www.healthhype.com/nutrition-guide-for-fructose-malabsorption.html
I also found this one the other day http://www.thefartingpear.com/index.php/fminfo which is quite easy to understand and has a pretty nifty food search tool.
There's someone else here, Ali from Aus (fireredjewel) who has fructose malabsorption and has helped me out a lot. She's the expert!
Hope that gives you something to think on and perhaps will help as you look for patterns.
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Hi Jenny :)
Thanks for this info. Yes, Olly has basically always had wind at night. Our good patches rarely last more than a week or so and then I can only remember a couple of them anyway.
Eloise is going to send me a list of low sal foods and I will see if I can find anything low fructose and low sal for Olly to eat :-\
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We have cut oats out from today so will see if this helps.
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I don't think you will find much that is low fructose low sal! I started off trying to do that to be cautious, but it was soon clear that J was fine with avocado so we ditched the low sals.
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Ah we give Olly avacado most days actually as it is good fats. So that is low fructose/high sals?
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Yip. I don't think I found ANYTHING that was low fructose/low sals!
Maybe you need to choose one thing and give it a go for a while. :-\
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I think you need to make an educated decision with a bit of mothers intuition based on his symptoms - are they lining up with sals issues or are they more like fructose absorption issues?
Sals symptoms - very typically:
red cheeks dry skin on cheeks
sore tummy and unsettled sleep
nappy rash and burnt bottom
mucus poo
If very very sensitive they will break out in a rash or hives after eating hig sals or the cheeks rash will get angry and theor bottoms get burnt.
Kai only had slight red dry cheeks are a baby and mucus poos and unserttled sleep. He never had nappy rash or hives or anything. But Most kids seem to get the red cheeks.
I really don't know anything about fructose.
The wind and sore tummy is consistent with digesting grains.
Wind could be a sals symptom, as it goes with the sore tummy, but Kai was not hugely windy.
Do you have a dieitcian appt coming pu - ask her?
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OK, so Olly basically STTN last night! Had an action plan of... anti histamines and ibuprofen at BT, early BT, W2S, as soon as he stirred at his usual 2.25 hours after BT went in and resettled. He was restless for about 10 mins so I stayed in with him but then slept through! This is after 2 nights of 2 hr NWs and Olly sleeping in my bed ALL night.
Diet was;
B - GF rice and buckwheat porridge and rice milk, apple, pear, raspberry fruit pot
S - peach
L - soy yoghurt
S - fruit (unidentified as at nursery!)
D - SW pot roasted fingers, roast chicken, banana, date and banana bar
BT - rice milk
What do you think from a sals/fructose POV?? Am thinking the sw pot is high sals and so seems like it is OK??
Really his ONLY symptoms are wind these days. He gets eczema if exposed to his allergies.
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so tonight he was up after 45 mins and an hour later is still unsettled and crying ??? He has had mango and melon today which I have just found are high fructose. Will take them out of his diet from tomorrow and see.
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both are high sals too
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Eating pear, apple, peach, dates and having no issues I would think it's probably not fructose.
Does he get wind during the day as well?
These are the main symptoms of fructose malabsorption
Diarrhea (and/or constipation)
General Stomach/abdominal pain
Flatulence
Bloating
Mood swings, fatigue
Stomach gurgling
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DH is on board with the fructose thing so we are going with that for a few days. FX.
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good luck hun. I just noticed that my email to you is still in its outbox. >:( Hopefully you have the sals lists now.
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OMG olly has STTN for the last 2 nights. I think we might actually have cracked it! No rock hard tummy at bed time ;D only on day 3 so won't count chickens yet but it is looking good!!
Jenny do you know if this fructose thing is something that they can grow out of? Is it something that they can get in varying degrees? Maybe he could have some fructose in his diet.
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I am SOOOO excited for you! :D Praying that it continues! What's he been eating?
Jenny do you know if this fructose thing is something that they can grow out of?
Fructose malabsorption I don't think you grow out of. I wonder myself if J will grow out of whatever troubles him. He was described as having an 'immature bowel' when he was much younger. I am hoping that this really is just what is wrong and while fructose seems to be a problem now, maybe as his bowel matures he will be ok with it. But in the back of my mind is that that term probably just means the Dr didn't know and he really does have something that does have a name (like fructose malabsorption).
Fructose malabsorption I think is totally about varying degrees - some things they might be able to eat some of, but not too much and not overload on too many fructose things all on the same day. But then I think there will be other things that they probably will never be able to eat because it's just too much fructose (like pears and apples).
I'll try and find you a link to a thread I had where Ali (fireredjewel) who has Fructose malabsorption was helping me out - she explained how her tolerance works which might help you. Here we go:http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=186672.0;all
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OMG fingers and toes crossed !
Please let wthis be the beginning of the end of your NW's.
Our latest run of NW's has been put down to his first canine appearing yesterday - ouch!
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Thanks for the link Jenny. So we have taken out apple, pear, melon and mango. He still has banana, peach, blueberries and we trialled 1 strawberry the other day. He liked it but was itchy the next day. Will try that again in a few days as would be good to have something else he can eat. So he has fruits that are not VERY low so I am thinking he can tolerate a bit. Of course it might not be the fructose it could just be that it is one of the fruits he cannot tolerate so once he hs been OKfor a week we will re-introcude the oats and then the fuits one at a time.
Eloise - have got the e-mail now. Will read through it properly later this evening when I can digest it in peace ;)
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strawberries are a tricky one as they are an allergic food and high sals food and also - high fructose???
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Nope, strawberries are low fructose. We haven't tried them yet because of the allergy risk.
Sounds like a great plan! Definitely keep us posted!
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Jenny, Would you mind sharing some of the safe foods that your LO eats? SOme of the lists I have found contradict each other ???
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I know! I just looked at the fartingpear food guide and they said carrots are bad. They're fine for J, so I think it's a bit of the case of it depends on the person. Which makes trying to interpret the lists difficult, but it gives hope I guess in that hopefully our little men will be able to tolerate some things!!
J's diet is still pretty limited. We still do foods one at a time and with trialling gluten, dairy and eggs as well as now starting to wean losec as well as sickness and teething it can be hard to find a good time to add more foods!
Porridge
GF bread
GF pasta
Rice
Millet
Blueberries
Avocado
Banana
Carrot
Peas
Corn
Potato
Sweet potato
Pumpkin
Chicken
Lamb
Beef
Pork
Bacon
GF ham
So not a lot, but it's enough to have variety and use things in different combinations. He always eats porridge for breakfast (sometimes with blueberries), and usually has a combination of the following: GF toast, banana bread, avocado, banana for lunch, so it's dinner that is really the only meal I have to think about and I have things like meatballs in the freezer if it doesn't work for him to have an adaption of what we're having (eg if I'm doing chicken I'll just cook his in a separate dish without the sauce).
The next vegetables I want to get on to are broccoli, courgette, cauliflower.
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I'd just like to follow along. Having similar issues with my 9mo and starting a more restricted diet for both of us (previously off dairy and soy, now attempting gluten, and some other specific things). He's never slept well at night, from 4-16 NWs typically. Certainly part of it is due to the APing we've been doing all this time, but gas is certainly part of the problem.
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Jenny, what do you do about pain meds? Olly has had a post mmr fever and we have been giving sugar free calpol. He has been so windy he has been up 3 times in 3 hours with gas pains. DH just realised the calpol has fructose in it! Arghhh!
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I think calpol = paracetamol right? The one we use doesn't appear to have fructose in it and neither does the nurofen. I know some chemists can make things colour/ flavour free if you need, so maybe you could talk to them - especially since the fructose is likely to just be a flavouring. Eloise has more experience asking pharmacists to do different things than I do!
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I'm not sure BB, we have been using the standard paracetemol and neurofen that is sugar free although has the nasty artificial sugar in it and nasty artificial orange flavour >:( I don't know if that contains fructose though. Certainly not listed as an ingredient. How can we tell if something has fructose?
As far as pain meds go, I have not been successful in getting compounding chemists to make any up as they can't get their hands on paracetemol as a powder... (this would be to have a flavour and additive free med). Basically, I have only used it if desperate, as I know he is sensitive to the additives.
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I got it wrong and in fact it contains sorbitol and malitol which Can be problematic for FM. He was up 5 times before midnight last night with wind. There was nothing different in his diet apart from the calpol!
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Bummer.
Yeah, sorbitol can be bad and cuts out more fruits that would be otherwise possible :(. I've only tried J on peaches. Seems he can tolerate 1 small slice of canned peach, but no more. He's ok with the paracetamol though.
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I think he is OK on Calprofen (ibuprofen) which I have always thought works better for him anyway so all is not lost. Especially as he had a temp of 39 today and is covered in a rash!
We have now taken him of soy, gluten and high frucotse fruits and veg (his beloved BN squash :'()leaving us with not very much at all. Hopefully it will pay off soon though he is restless at night anyway whilst he is poorly. Even with this though we can tell a difference in his tummy. He is much less bloated even to the point I thought DH had put his nappy on too tight but actually it is just where it isn't so round anymore!
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Glad that there's an improvement! Now just to narrow down what the actual problem is!
What's wrong with BN squash (I presume the BN is butter nut and squash= pumpkin?). Because pumpkin is on the all-good lists that I have ???
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On some lists it is high that I have found! We can only trial it and put it back again.
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Still sounds promising BB, will be interesting to see if he goes from strength to strength when the fever and feeling unwell settles down.
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We are still having wind issues as well. 2 hour night waking last night due to wind :(
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Hi sherry and sorry xx have you any ideas what is causing the wind??
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Hi Sherry, what is E's food situation at the moment?
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so how long has been been on low fructose and what do you think, is it having an effect?
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Has been about a week now and yes the first 2 nights he did seem better. Then this viral infection hit and he spent the last 5 nights in with me/us. :-[ ::) TBH he has had odd nappies so I wonder if he had a bit of a stomach bug too. However, it is 22.40 here and he hasn't stirred yet. For the last few nights he has woken at 21.15 on the nose with wind. Between dinner and BT he was passing wind like there was no tomorrow!
Wouldn't you know it - he is starting to stir as I type ::)
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30mins and 2 farts later he seems to have settled again. :P
He clearly still has lots of wind. I have replaced his normal apple/pear based fruit purees with a banana/peach one I found so tomorrow we are going to take peach out and see if it sorbitol he is reacting too. Would go along with the Calpol bad night.
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E is Soy and Dairy free, with no real sign of being being able to introduce them back.
I do low gluten but not gluten free.
The thing I HATE the most about food intolerance is it really makes you guys everything. I never know if it's food or a routine issue.
He eats a lot of the same things. Only because I'm not all the creative with DH work schedule being the crap that it always is and he is entering the picky phase.
The hard thing too is it's not every day with food intolerance, it can be built up and to me that is the hardest hardest thing :(
The things it could have been last night.
He had a whole pear yesterday and the day before. They weren't super ripe like they should be.
He had some pasta bake with some spices. He loves loves loves spices but it does seem to mess with him.... or it could have been the tomato base it was in. But two days before that he had spaghetti and was fine :(
Difference there is whole wheat noodles versus the elbow mac type.
I hope ye settled for you..... I'm glad he got a lot of wind out before bedtime :) *fingers crossed for you* E has been rolling around in bed for 37 minutes now :(
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Hi, Olly did STTN after that 30 min episode! YAY!
Totally know how you feel Sherry. xxx Ifeel like we are analysing EVERYTHING that goes in his mouth now down to drinks and medicines trying to find the culprit of this gas. Even down to HOW he is eating and drinking. It is so mentally wearing and then of course you are physically exhausted due to the NWs. I often wonder how different my life would be if I had one of these babies who STTN from an early age and can eat everything. I would have had a year of sleep and so much less anxiety!
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Well BB, it looks like the jury is still out, he may go back to sttn once the sickenss and the capol are gone.
Sherry, tomato and spices are both very high salicylates. I wouldn't expect pear to create a problem.
huge hugs I too know how it feels to question everything when they are unsettled. That's why I go to great lengths to contol his new food introductions and repeat food challenges etc. I have to admit though, I have been getting more lax in the last month, he seems to be tolerating more and more foods ;D
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E- Yeah for more and more foods!!!!
C- Yeah for a STTN
Another bad night. At least DH was home last night by the time it happened. I tried to help but it just got worse because then he wanted me. Some how, he hasn't gotten it in his head that he wants to be held to sleep. I don't know how or when. We've done this MAYBE twice since he was very very little. To tell the truth, he's just not good at falling asleep in our arms and last night, the night before was no different. He tosses and turns. The only thing I can think of is he's just uncomfortable (in pain) so he wants to be held for comfort. ??? I don't know if he passed gas in the end last night. But he def. did the night before. Lots of farts, then a huge burp and then he went right to sleep,. on his own, in his bed right after he got that burp out.
Speak of the munchkin, he's up. :)
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Another gassy night last night. I don't know what more we can take out of his diet. DH suggested banana last night and I nearly cried. Banana is about the only snack left that will fill him up till his next meal. And he loves it. In fact I swear he said it today - might be his first word lol. Going to phone our Allergist today and see if he can offer any help.
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Oh no! I wonder how long you need to wait for things to equalise on a low fructose diet? Is bananna low or high fructose? I do know that with these types of diets they don't provide proper answers unless you follow them religiously. I.e. if it is supposed to be low frustose and you are eating one high food, then the results are null and void really. I wish I could help more >:( If it were salicylates I could help!
If it were sals, you would need to be on the diet about 3 weeks before you could expect to reach a baseline.
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huge huge hugs.
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Thanks. I am not sure how long it takes. We are persevering with it though. Olly is eating moderate fructose foods but I just cannot put on him only low. There seriously would be hardly anything left for him to eat. I need to balance his need for food and nutrients with getting to the bottom of this.
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Maybe if he only has moderate foods every other day it could help some? Not sure... HUGS
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In my experience it's just the day that you eat it that's a problem. Ali said up to about 12hours for her. (J got hold of some apple yesterday when we were at our music group = 40min screaming session 2.5hrs later during nap time (woke having tummy cramps and just screamed). But when it was over he stopped screaming, calmed down pretty easily and then I took him back to bed and he was asleep again straight away. He did have diahrroea later in the afternoon and his tummy was a little bit harder (so he was bit grumpier than usual) but then today he's fine).
We are persevering with it though. Olly is eating moderate fructose foods but I just cannot put on him only low. There seriously would be hardly anything left for him to eat. I need to balance his need for food and nutrients with getting to the bottom of this.
What are the moderate ones? It's like Eloise said above - if the's eating just 1 food that is too high for him, then the whole thing will be null and void.
I think you need to give it a really good go despite how dificult it will be, so that then you can say you've done it and it is or isn't the problem and move onto the next thing if necessary.
J is totally fine with banana. He can eat a whole one but thefartingpear.com suggests that some people can't tolerate that much - maybe only 1/4 or 1/2. I know snacks are a big pain in the neck! I give J crackers (lots of different ones but they are all boring! rice crackers, puffed rice cakes, corn thins, corn cruskits) plus quinoa rings (I found some that contain pear juice for flavouring - so I DON'T buy those ones!!), corn puffs, pop corn.
I think I would feed him this for a few days:
Breakfast: porridge or whatever you replaced it with, berries if you want
Lunch: GF toast with berry jam, avocado
Dinner: meat and potatoes, custard made with oat milk
Snacks, crackers, popcorn, blueberries
After a few days you would know if it's fructose or not, then you can start adding other things back in (like maybe 1/4 banana) to see what his tolerance is. You can always do different meats and different styles of potato for variety. Olly probably won't even care (my DD only ate 7 foods from 6-14months - it was definitely me who minded about the lack of variety more than her!).
Anyway, just letting you know I'll happily hold your hand if you do try low fructose!
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Thank you! I was imagining I would have to do it for at least 2 weeks to do a proper test. I think I manage it for a few days. Problem is that Olly won't eat things like rice and potatos which are very non allergenic foods. If he did, life would be much easier as I could fill him up on those.
Jenny, this is very similar what he eats now TBH tho I would have to replace the potato with sw pt/BN squash or GF pasta. I steer clear of custard a bit because of the sugar but I could try it again. Great idea in fact!
I am still confused over the sw pot and BN squash. This website says sw pot lower in fructose than the squash http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-011011000000000000000-2.html? Farting Pear says the opposite. These are the things really I fear to remove from his diet. Then I am left with GF bread and pasta as carbs. ???
So you think the berries are OK to leave in even though they are moderate? Only low fruits seem to be citrus and chomping on a lime for a snack cannot be nice lol
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Having browse - this is a good website http://www.food-intolerance-network.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17:fructose-table-in-alphabetical-order&catid=2&Itemid=21
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It's awfully confusing isn't it! That first list you gave seems to contradict a lot of what I've read as well as the second link you gave. I wonder if they're just measuring total fructose in that list rather than the ration of fructose/glucose which is actually the key.
The second link is more similar to ones that I use, but still different - mainly in not recommending berries and citrus! (and it lists blueberries as bad because of xylitol which is only possibly a problem for fructose malabsorption).
This is the lady that came up with the idea of the FODMAP diet. http://sacfs.asn.au/download/SueShepherd_sarticle.pdf Berries and citrus are on her list too (so are stone fruit - but we've been avoiding that too as I don't think they're a good thing to start on as they contain sorbitol).
I usually compare all the lists I've got and then make a judgement of what the general consensus is! So I'd take sweet potato as a NO , but butternut pumpkin as fine. And so, if he doesn't eat potatoes and rice (have you tried hash browns or making wedges?) I'd do GF pasta and pumpkin instead of potato. I don't give J custard that often either - just thought it would be a good option if you were struggling to find things to fill him up!
How are you going with getting him seen? I think we both need professional help to get this sorted! It's such a mission to try and understand on our own, and anyway both O and J will need someone who actually knows what they're doing watching over their diets!
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Well the moderates are banana, blueberries, strawberries, then the squash and sw pot. Actually apart from the sw pot then they look OK but are still not LOW.
We are also steerting clear of sorbitol too after the Calpol night!
Last night was an improvement again. In fact hardly any wind but still a restless night. That could be anything though. He didn't have any pain killers or anti histamine yesterday which both contain soritol or malitol which tells us something...
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That's an improvement, and yeah very interesting about the sorbitol! I'd go easy on the banana for a few days and ditch the sweet potato....
Do you keep offering rice and potatoes even though he doesn't eat them usually? Some kids (J ::)) really do need to be exposed to it A LOT before they will eat something.
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He was at nursery today and had peach. Oh well. Think he is teething so will have to have painkillers at some point in the night I think.
With potatos I keep trying all kinds of forms. Mash, hash browns, roast, chips. Have just bought waffles as he ate a GF/DF/EF pancake recipe I tried the other day and I thought they were similar. In fact will make those pancakes againa as they will be a good snack. They had a bit of peach in last time so I ended up throwing them away as part of this trial but but will make with a banana, blueberry puree I have just found (such tiny amount of banana it can't hurt right?). Have been reading that small amounts of banana OK in most people but when he is back from nursery for 4 days I will try it then as I can strcitly control what he eats.
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No, I think small amounts of banana will be fine, just don't feed him tonnes because there seems like nothing else to feed him!! (I know the feeling!!). Those pancakes sound yummy!
Does your nursery provide the food? Can you specify what they can and can't feed him (I sure hope so!!)?
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Yes nursery provide food but only refsues it ALL except fruit and the odd soy yoghurt and I took a list of the high fructose fruits in last week. All he ate today for 8 hours was the peach so very reluctant to take that off the list too.
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How's it going?
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Doing good thanks! Been a few nights now without windy NWs! Still get the odd NW but they are easy to resettle and to be expected with a 16 month old who has never really been able to relax and sleep at night! Am also still struggling on with GW at BT. Last night he wouldn't settle Nd I got frustrated and walked out. Within a few minutes he was asleep so I think I was disturbing him so another small step forward! Thanks for asking :-*
Ps now we are finally at our 'baseline' have had 3 days of introducing soy and he seems ok on it. Phew, a few more foodie items he can eat! we discovered soy cheese this and he loves it!
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Yay!! Sounds really really good!
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so glad to hear your good news ;D So is he on low fructrose ?
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Thanks ;D yes he is low fructose - with a sprinkling of moderates ;). He was at nursery yesterday and had banana and peach which we were steering clear of here but actually he still slept OK.
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Here's our update http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=210166.0 I can barely believe it.
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At nursery yesterday he has 2 lots of banana and fruit cocktail which I think is mainly pear and peach and still had an OK night! I think we need to take the fructose out again and start re-introducing fruits 1 at a time to see which ones it is casuing the gas. It might not be the fructose - just an intolerance to certain fruits. ???
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Yip totally.
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How are you going? Any closer to finding out if it's just certain fruits?
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Nope! Did try sw pot a couple of days ago and had 2 nights of NWs with wind. Took it back out yesterday and although he was restless for an hour at his usual time I didn't have to go in.
He is def OK with banana.
We have tried him on these again though http://www.organix.com/goodies/our-foods/carrot-cake and he is fine - they have raisins and apple - odd huh?
DH is away at the mo so can't face any challenges. Really I am only avoiding sw pot, melon, mango, apples and pears - so nothing that makes meal planning hard.
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Really I am only avoiding sw pot, melon, mango, apples and pears - so nothing that makes meal planning hard.
That doesn't sound too bad then! Yay for progress!
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Not too bad but of course on top of wheat dairy and eggs lol! Forgot dried fruit on the list actually - and stone fruit. In fact the only fruit Olly eats at the mo is banana and blueberry!
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Not too bad but of course on top of wheat dairy and eggs lol! Forgot dried fruit on the list actually - and stone fruit. In fact the only fruit Olly eats at the mo is banana and blueberry!
Haha! I had to laugh, but you do kind of get in the grove of not giving them stuff don't you. J on the other hand is eating all and any fruit we give him now and totally loving it all. So strange ::)
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both good updates girls :)
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Jenny - you totally do get in the groove! Will be humming Madonna all evening now!
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How's it going now, Claire?
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Hi! Ok thanks. Haven't reintroduced anything as really I don't find it too limiting and we have just had some teething. Still getting used to better nights and not reFu to jeopardise them yet! Got appt with consultant in august.
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We are on the 4th day of challenging apples and I am in the spareroom as Olly is in bed with DH after pain and crying! Apples are a culprit then :'(
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:( bugger
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Oh sorry to hear that >:(
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Actually olly settled fairly quickly once with daddy do he wax put back in his cot. I will give it a few days and trial sweet potato or each next ;D
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Good luck :)