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Title: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on May 30, 2011, 00:45:12 am
Hi, my reflux daughter seems to be doing alright.  She is feeling good and can eat food such as breads with dairy baked into them.  When she has a good amount of cheese she becomes a terror. 

She is 9.5 months old
I am just wondering how I can wean her off breast milk?  She has started taking a bit of water, it has been a hard road and I really hate pumping and I have to go back to work in a few months.  I don't think formula will work because of the dairy.  Can I use almond milk or rice milk?  I would like to do this maybe once every few days for now.

also, should I try yogurt or assume that it will bother her also?
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Buntybear on May 30, 2011, 21:27:12 pm
Hi you can certainly start to introduce an alternative milk at this stage although you would need to continue to bf for a while longer. Personally I would steer clear of yoghurt at the moment. Is she ok with soy? Are you seeing a dietician?
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on May 30, 2011, 22:57:39 pm
thank you!

I haven't seen anyone.  I don't even know where to find a dietician that is good with kids.  My Dr insists that it is rare that breastfed babies have milk issues so he hasn't set me up with anyone.  :(

I am finding this all very hard to deal with. I feel so alone with all of it.  Thank goodness I have this site, it's the only thing that keeps me from losing my mind when it comes to my daughter.

I have an appointment tomorrow to discuss my DD's meds. Since she is finally feeling better I am going start discussing the dairy issue more forcefully.

I guess I'll try some almond milk as she seems fine with nuts. 
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Mom to M&M on May 31, 2011, 06:53:28 am
I'd be wary of almond milk. It's REALLY low in good fats and calories and very thin. And the thinness could aggravate her reflux too. I'd go to hypo-allergenic formula for now (if you are going to wean off BF), TBH...
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on May 31, 2011, 13:11:28 pm
It's not that I want to wean yet but I want her to be able to start having something else so that she will be okay when she hits one and I go back to work.  Right now she wont take anything but breastmilk, not even water, and it's really hard for me.  I just want to start getting her use to something else and I want her to be okay if I leave for a the evening and someone need to give her one bottle.  I have been pumping but it's getting really hard and I figure since I'm going back to work and she'll be off breastmilk in 3 more months I'd like to start supplementing with something once in a while. 
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: lesliemarie on May 31, 2011, 13:30:29 pm
I think it might be hard to get her to take a hypoallergenic formula at this point.  They taste awful.  DD was on Nutramigen and now is on Neocate and they are horrid tasting.  Maybe try rice milk or coconut milk.  There is a thread somewhere on this board about how to make up a "milk" with the calories needed.  I'll see if I can find it and post the link.
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: lesliemarie on May 31, 2011, 13:40:41 pm
Here it is.  i think I'll try it as well.  I'd like to get DD drinking something other than formula.  She is much more interested in chewing on her sippy cup rather than drinking from it.  She has a lot of fun with it but of course I have to hold it the whole time.  Maybe if it had something in it other than water she might like it better :)

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=127677.0
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Buntybear on May 31, 2011, 15:19:10 pm
Hi have you tried a variety of cups?? Have you tried putting EBF in them as she may want to drink out of them then!!

We use calcium enriched oat milk which is a nice texture and taste.
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on May 31, 2011, 15:29:35 pm
I've tried a bunch of sippy cups.  we finally figured out this weekend that she will take water if I put it in a straw and hold the water in by holding my thumb on the top of the straw, she then puts the bottom in her mouth and kinda sucks while I let go a bit!  We were out and it was hot so we tried and she took it. I'm not going to start looking for a good sippy with a straw.  She will take a bottle with Breastmilk but nothing else, one she tastes that it is not breastmilk she plays with it.

I've never heard of oat milk, where do I get that?

I'll also check out that link and see what I can do. Thanks
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: firsttimemummy on May 31, 2011, 17:31:53 pm
Oliver takes Neocate fine - in UK it is prescription only.  I would go back to doctor to get referral to dietician.
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on June 01, 2011, 00:29:15 am
Right now we're working on referrals to a GI specialist and a allergist.  My next move will be to find a dietician.

I really dont think I need formula though as it is just something I want to give every once in a while so I can go out without her and in a few months she wont need breastmilk or formula anyway.   
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Mom to M&M on June 01, 2011, 02:30:59 am
Yea if it's only for once in a while now I'd think rice milk with added coconut milk (for good fats) would be a good and yummy option.
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: ~Emma~ on June 01, 2011, 09:03:03 am
 Hi hon,

 I just wanted to add a little something about rice milk. I know you are not in the UK but the guidelines here are that it is not to be given to LO's under 5 due to the arsenic content.

 There is a link at the bottom of this page.

 http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=210586.0

Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: firsttimemummy on June 01, 2011, 09:19:12 am
we were told not to give oat milk as a main drink as it isn't high in fat - but since Murray has had no weight gain issues and eats (really!!) well, dietician was fine with it .... if you are continuing to breastfeed it isn't an issue
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on June 01, 2011, 14:52:25 pm
I didn't realize this was going to be such a hard problem to solve!

I have never heard of oat milk?  Is it available for you at regular supermarkets or do you have to go to some sort of speciality store?
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Mom to M&M on June 01, 2011, 14:57:43 pm
I can buy oat milk at the regular grocery store near the soy and rice milks. Maybe mix oat with coconut!
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: lesliemarie on June 01, 2011, 21:40:24 pm
Yep it is in the same section.  You can get rice, oat and soy in the same section.  I get mine at the Superstore.  It is part of the Dream line (Oat Dream, Rice Dream and Soy Dream).  I don't know of another kind but that one is really good.  There is even a chocolate rice dream that I like better than chocolate milk :)
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Buntybear on June 02, 2011, 17:13:06 pm
we were told not to give oat milk as a main drink as it isn't high in fat - but since Murray has had no weight gain issues and eats (really!!) well, dietician was fine with it .... if you are continuing to breastfeed it isn't an issue

Interesting.. what do milk do they advise then if they are saying no rice or oat?
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Buntybear on June 02, 2011, 17:13:52 pm
I didn't realize this was going to be such a hard problem to solve!

I have never heard of oat milk?  Is it available for you at regular supermarkets or do you have to go to some sort of speciality store?

Not sure about Canada but in the UK it is with the UHT milks.
Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: *Sandra* on June 02, 2011, 18:18:50 pm
I know, there doesn't seem like there is a great option.  I'll try the oat for the few times I need it.  Sadly, she seems to have got a bad bug now.  Green poop (like I have never seen before, it looks like someone put dye into it), diarrhea, throwing up, runny nose, fever. So i'm not going to try anything new right now. We'll stick to breastmilk!

Title: Re: possible dairy intolerance
Post by: Buntybear on June 02, 2011, 19:53:16 pm
Oh no, poor little poppet, hope she is on the mend very soon  :-*