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Title: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Hedgehog17 on October 29, 2011, 09:51:52 am
Hi ladies,

Just wanted to ask about how suitable bacon is for DS!

He really loves it  :o We've just given him 5 tiny bits of good quality back bacon, the fattier ends for preference, from our plates and it's been consumed with obvious delight  ;D

I know it's high in salt so we can't give too much, but I haven't found any information on how much is appropriate to give to a 13mo.

We need to get more protein & fat into him as his diet is restricted due to MSPI, so if bacon is ok and he'll eat it then that would be wonderful  :D

Can anybody help?
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: ~inbalance~ on October 29, 2011, 11:37:07 am
Well, I suppose bacon isn't good for anyone!  :P  (my kids like it too ::)).

What about looking for 'healthier' options like reduced salt, preservative free (check your local butcher), or turkey bacon?
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Lemonthyme on October 29, 2011, 11:55:15 am
Tricky.  With my food safety hat on, I'd say the salt and nitrates are necessary to ensure the bacon is safe.  I would suggest you limit the amount you give.  Likewise I give him the odd tiny amount if I'm having some.  Perhaps limit any bacon, ham or sausage to once or twice a week and limit other salty foods (e.g. bread, cheese) on days when he does have bacon?
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: cuckoochick on October 29, 2011, 13:18:55 pm
My DD loves bacon (in soup), ham and sausage! ::) :-[ I just try to limit other salty things that she might have on those days as pp said.
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Hedgehog17 on October 29, 2011, 14:24:31 pm
Thanks ladies!

We only have bacon once a week so we'll just give him a bit of ours then  :)

He hasn't had ham or sausages yet! (v slow progress on the weaning  :()

He doesn't get cheese as he's MSPI, and eats very little bread. He drank plenty of water after the bacon he had this morning, and got his bottle about 45 mins later, so no dehydration  :)

Just to find things things he'll eat other than pureed fruit, mashed veg, & rice crackers  ::)
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: We Three on November 03, 2011, 14:29:57 pm
I am almost positive there is nitrate free turkey bacon. 
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Buntybear on November 06, 2011, 18:29:33 pm
Silly question but what is wrong with nitrates? I am not questioning it just would like to know the facts for future ref!
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Lemonthyme on November 06, 2011, 21:02:03 pm
I don't think anything is proven.  There is speculation nitrates / nitrites may increase cancer rates.  The problem with research in this area though is people who eat loads of nitrate rich foods i.e. sausages, bacon etc are also more likely to have generally poor diets lacking in fruit and veg.

Personally I think the jury is out but it probably makes sense to limit foods like this which are processed even if the processing is the kind of thing we've been doing for hundreds of years as a race if nothing else than just because they're high in salt.
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Buntybear on November 06, 2011, 21:13:40 pm
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: We Three on November 06, 2011, 23:55:45 pm
JMHO, but I don't think the jury is out at all...    :-\   Don't mean to get on a soapbox here, as that is truly not my intention, but I will post this link for anyone who might be interested.   :)  I realize you can find links to support just about anything, but still I wanted to share. 

  http://www.foodmatters.tv/_webapp_226337/Nitrates_in_commercial_foods_more_dangerous_than_we_first_thought
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Hedgehog17 on November 07, 2011, 22:24:18 pm
Just checked the packaging on my organic bacon, and it lists the ingredients as


I guess that's not good then  :(

Haven't heard about any nitrate free stuff being available in the UK - it hasn't been raised as a major concern here yet...
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Buntybear on November 07, 2011, 22:29:10 pm
Haven't heard about any nitrate free stuff being available in the UK - it hasn't been raised as a major concern here yet...

Me neither - in fact I was looking for some nitrate free ham in sainsburys earlier after this thread! Maybe we should start a specific thread as someone might know? Meanwhile I will have a google  :)
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Hedgehog17 on November 07, 2011, 22:35:41 pm
Me neither - in fact I was looking for some nitrate free ham in sainsburys earlier after this thread! Maybe we should start a specific thread as someone might know? Meanwhile I will have a google  Smiley

Please do start a thread if google doesn't come up with anything! I'd be very interested to know too :)
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: We Three on November 08, 2011, 02:52:29 am
Just found this...so I know it exists, but maybe just in the US? 

  http://www.applegatefarms.com/products/natural_sunday_bacon.aspx

But I also found some sites that said there are still nitrates in "nitrate free" products, BUT...that they are "naturally occurring", which isn't harmful?  UGGGHHH!   ::)   :P    I'll just skip it....I can't add another thing to my list of "foods to be wary of"   ;)

 Wonder if Canadian bacon is any different?  You know, the kind that is round and not in strips?
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: aisling on November 08, 2011, 03:09:47 am
We use the nitrate free bacon too.  Ask at the butchers perhaps UK ladies.

Canadian Bacon as US calls it is the same bacon that the UK has (rashers) but streaky bacon (Uk) is what you are used to Anne (the strips) in the US and we have that in nitrate free here in Canada too. (thank goodness!)

So, if Waitrose or Sainsbury's don't offer either ask at a good butcher perhaps.
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Lemonthyme on November 08, 2011, 20:47:14 pm
I just reckon eat bacon, love it's bacon-y goodness and just don't eat it every day!
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Buntybear on November 08, 2011, 21:04:45 pm
We do tend to buy our bacon at a butchers so will ask him next time we are in. As far ham though - not sure where to get this easily. And sausages. He probably only has these every other week if that, so I am not going to cut them out!
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo? *update - nitrate free ham!*
Post by: Hedgehog17 on November 27, 2011, 16:02:15 pm
Good news - I finally found some nitrate-free ham  :D :D

It's called Fergal's Simply and I got it from the large Tesco in town  :)

They also do chicken and turkey slices too, so we got one of each. It's not the cheapest, but there are no nasties so I'm happier for DS and I to eat them!
Title: Re: Bacon for13mo?
Post by: Buntybear on November 27, 2011, 18:07:05 pm
Just had look and looks like only Tesco's does it (I don't shop there!). Not cheap but TBH I wouldn't buy ham much cheaper even for me to eat - I like a nice ham that isn't full of water and would prefer to eat it less often but better quality  :)'