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EAT => Food Allergies => Topic started by: Happyface82 on January 15, 2012, 16:04:44 pm
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Well after about a year of Katerina suffering from multiple allergies/intolerances we have decided to give NAET a go! I thought I would share our progress with you! Hope its a positive one!
So today we went for Katerina's 1st appointment. Not sure how to feel about it. We started with the egg mix which is (egg yolk, egg white, chicken, tetracycline and feathers). She tested positive on it which we expected and was then treated for it. We were told to try egg in a day or so. only a little bit as her last reaction was sever. I'm kinda scared to be honest. Because of the severity of it we actually agreed to wait until we go next time so she can test her again on egg and on each component separately so we make sure that it has been cured. Then we will try it. :thumb up: We are going again on Friday! Fingers crossed something good comes out of it. The lady was lovely and she was positive that we are going to see a difference even if it takes a few more attempts. Lets see!
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Good Luck!
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good luck. we are also seeing a naturopath who specialises in NAET.
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i will join in on your journey! I have had 18 treatments and i am much healthier now.
i have a huge thread about my NAET journey if you are interested.
Becky I had no idea! i hope it goes well for you.
My NAET practitioner is the official trainer for the netherlands and i can always ask her for recommendation for you if you suspect yours isnt going anywhere. I am not sure where happyface is at. The official trainer for uk is Helen Bowman, just so you know, Becky.
best of luck and it really works for me and hope for the same for u.
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Thank you so much girls! I will keep it in mind if we are not happy with our current practitioner. She seems lovely but will need to see some results I guess! I am based in London! I have seen your thread, this is how I learned about NAET so thank you! :D
Can I ask how quickly you saw results? I am a bit apprehensive that we went once and she treated the egg mix which is Katerina's worst reaction so if it works I'll be amazed!
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for the one item she treated, the results would be immediate. but sometimes i got really bad reaction from the next thing and one treatment per week took a long time.
mine has become very complicated over a very long period of time. so hopefully for a LO, it will be faster!
praying for you and Becky, too.
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Well! today was session 2! The practitioner tested Katerina for all the components of the egg mix separately. She tested positive on egg white but not as much as last week. So she was treated again for it along with BASE which is digestive juices and enzymes from intestinal tracks. So we are to try a little bit of egg yolk tomorrow and then see what happens on Sunday when we go again before we offer her egg white. She also tested her for the antihistamine she is on and said she is intolerant to it and we should treat her for it.
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sounds positive so far :)
DD has her second appt next week. So far we have been told to avoid rice and cinnamon and she treated her for her formula as she was showing an intolerance to that although was fine when tested for milk so must be something else. Have tried a few more foods since he 1st appt so will test for those next week. Am thinking egg may be an issue for us.
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how old is Katerina? Which from the basic 15 is she allergic or sensitive to?
fingers crossed for the egg trial tomorrow.
do you both have the handbook? It gave me a lot of insights as to what might have caused my reaction.
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Good luck Becky!! Its amazing that they can test anything! I'm impressed to be honest!
I'm not sure what the basic 15 are? She never tested her for anything else. She started with the egg mix last time. Then today she tested her for some vitamins and the probiotic she is on. Probiotics she is fine, the vitamins was 50%. And the antihistamine she is intolerant to. She also tested for stomach acids and she was fine.
Does this all make sense? We don't have the handbook but she told us it would be good to buy it and I forgot. Thanks for reminding me! :-)
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no i don't have the handbook either...
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the basic 15 covers all basic nutrients we need, if we are allergic or reacting to these, our health would be affected and we would be reacting to more foods because they are the core nutrients or components in foods.
for example, vitamine A mix, if one is reacting to it, then you will react to carrots, multivitamine pill, etc. then treating carrots or the pill individually wont solve the problem entirely and it will take you much longer to get rid of one allergy/intolerance, iykwim.
How old is Katerina? It would be beneficial to keep a food journal for all foods and drinks and reactions. She might have tested a whole load of things as it goes very quickly.
the handbook explains what you have to do before, during amd after the treatment and what to avoid during the 25 h avoidance period. you can order it from amazon.co.uk.
How did you find your practitioners? There have been reports about practitioners not following the code of practice.
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Katerina is 21 months. Sorry forgot to say not he previous post.
I realised what the basic 15 are! The practitioner gave us a list of them which says what they treat and what to avoid for the next 25 hours. It doesn't say what to do before hand though!
She hasn't tested her yet for other things other than the ones I mentioned as she was working on the egg mix still! On a positive note we gave Katerina some egg yolk today and she seemed fine with. No immediate reaction like last time she had egg, though that would have been the egg white! Still I'm happy, though cautious and waiting to see if I see a delayed reaction. I do keep a diary of what she eats and drinks every day and her reactions! :-)
On a side note I've been giving her some yellow cheese for the past week. She hasn't been treated for dairy yet, but she seems to tolerate it which I'm happy about! I'm sure she won't tolerate milk yet but hopefully NAET will help with that!
We are going again tomorrow morning!
Could you please send me a link of the handbook? I couldn't find it on Amazon!
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PS I really like our practitioner, but I guess its still early days. . .
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/NAET-Guide-Book-Companion-Good-Bye/dp/1934523151/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_3
that is the link.
it is good that you like her as Grant didnt have a good experience with hers.
fingers crossed for tomorrow.
xx
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Thank you!
Our appointment for tomorrow was cancelled as the practitioner's daughter has a stomach bug and she doesn't' want to risk us getting close. Its a bummer as I'm eager to see some results but in reality its not that bad as I can use some more time to test the egg yolk properly and the chicken. She didn't have an immediate/severe reaction but she can still react in smaller ways. So it would be good if I knew exactly where we stand before we go back! Fingers crossed for a good night tonight cause that is the first to give if smt is wrong!
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FX for you and vibes xx
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I finally have an update! Felt like its been ages. We went back today and she tested her for the egg white just to make sure before we try it and she seemed fine with it. She also treated her for dairy. She said she is fine with calcium altogether just not dairy! So now we can try both the egg white and dairy! Not sure what to start dairy with. Dairy would not show on day 1 probably so I'm thinking of getting a few yogurts? I'm not planning to switch her milk before I am 100% sure she is better and even then I have not decided what kind of milk I want her to have.
Any suggestions what to try her on? :-)
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you can also try cheese, yoghurt, perhaps rice pudding with cow's milk, etc. good luck!!
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Just thought I would update! Katerina got the gastric flu last week. Not sure if it is dairy related. She was having a small pot of yogurt daily for 2 weeks when this happened. I have since re-introduced cheese and she seems ok with it.
We have decided to change practitioners. We like our practitioner but she keeps cancelling on us and I am too impatient to wait around. We have found someone else, she looks really knowledgable and also uses cranio-sacral treatments when needed. We will be seeing her on Monday for a consultation. She said to me that she will test for as many things as possible on session 1 until Katerina gets tired. Thats not how the other practitioner did things though I hope it would be as it would be great to find out on what else she is reacting that we are not aware of!
Koe2moe - how did your practitioner go about it?
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On my first appointment, my practitioner tested the basic 15 and i had problems with 6 of them and a few things which i suspected that i had problems with. We spent more time telling my medical history than on testing. It took me 8 appointments to get those 6 things cleared, so i guess there was not much point in testing more. First appointment was double time.
the last appointment i had, however, she went through almost every vials she had all over again because i clearly was reacting to something and she was trying to find it. it turned out to be a combination but it was good to know that i was clear on all the others.
i guess if you know more foods that Katrina is reacting to, you can already try to eliminate until she gets treated. HTH
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That's what I'm thinking! Also, I will probably find out -hopefully- that there are some foods that we haven't tried yet but she is not allergic to! :-)
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I'm really happy with the new practitioner. She actually tested Katerina for most foods today, there is only a few left but K got tired in the end so we had to stop. We'll also test for environmental factors next time!
So far she is allergic/intolerant to: wheat, gluten, rye, yeast, nuts, fish, shellfish, vitamin K, vitamin A, cheese, yogurt, peas, tomatoes, eggplant, peppers and some spices. The egg was successfully treated! Calcium was successfully treated as well only cheese and yogurt we need to redo!
She basically confirmed everything we were afraid of but hopefully she'll be fine after the treatments! She suggested a few things to introduce to her diet so that's always exciting!
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i am really glad to hear that positive update, not that it is good that she is intolerant to so many things but that you are getting somewhere, ykwim ;)
if k is intolerant to Vit A, I was, too, then she would be reacting to carrots, too. Was she testing foods or the food mixes? Some are in one group, and will need to be treated for the mix first and retest for individuals.
Yay for the egg!!
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She tested her for food mixes but also for some individual foods. For example tomatoes, kiwi and peas she tested with fresh products as I said I wanted to know if she reacts to them. She has carrots almost daily and she always seems to be reacting to something so this makes sense. Thanks for letting me know. Vit A is the first we'll treat next Monday so hopefully she can have them again soon.
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that makes sense! fx for monday
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i am the kind of person who can eat the same breakfast, lunch and dinner day in and day out. When things i react to is in the group of foods, I get more and more intense reactions as time goes by. It could be blessing in disguise that rings the alarm bell sooner rather than later.
I wonder if i can ask you a favour. Can you ask your practitioner if pg women can be treated or should they avoid the first trimester? Hope you dont mind me asking. xx
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Of course I can ask! I have read on the notes she has given me that pregnant women can be treated and also that if you get treated while pregnant the foods you get treated for are going to be safe for LO in the future! So its supposed to be really good! :-)
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yeah i also read that but i also read that two of the acupressure points induce labour or m/c (from chinese article about acupressure points)! Does it mean to skip those points or use some other points?
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mmmm Haven't heard of that! Will ask her on Monday when we next go in!
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DId you end up testing your daughter on eating egg or dairy? I am keen to know if the treatment worked for her. I desensitised my son to alot of foods when he was 9 months to 14 months old. The treatment seemed to help his salicylate intolerance slightly but he was not able to eat any of the foods in any sort of quantity.
For instance, he barely tolerates butter, and definantly cannot tolerate wheat. He had alot of gut healing to be done and vitamin and mineral supplementation required to help his liver produce digestive enzymes, and this path has proven far more productive for him. We also diagnosed that he had a protozoan parasite and several vitamin deficiences since the treatment. He was also on reflux meds, so those might have held him back too.
I an always keen to hear other success stories though, I know that this treatment does work for some people.
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Koe2moe - I just realised I forgot to ask about the pregnancy! I am going back tomorrow so will ask then! :-)
EloysH - we tested her on egg which was her most severe allergy. Last time she had only a tiny bit of egg and her face went bright red and she vomited everywhere for about 5 min.. I changed her and again she was sick everywhere. It wasn't nice! Then the next day she got a rash on her arms and legs. After the treatment, I gave her about half an egg and she didn't react at all. She doesn't eat them really as she doesn't like them - maybe she needs to get used to them? But she definitely didn't react! I'm not sure if there would be a small reaction like an intolerance if she had a whole egg but at least I don't have to worry about it too much! :-) I'm sorry you didn't see the results others do. Its heartbreaking!
UPDATE:
We went back on Monday and she was treated for Vit A! Going back tomorrow to see of its cleared but not sure what we are treating tomorrow! I was going to ask her if we could do tomato. K is being really fussy with her food lately and I worry too much about it. She refuses to eat anything. She has tried spaghetti before though -bolognaise and once with tomato sauce- and she loved both. I figure I can get gluten free pasta, treat the tomato and add veggies that she doesn't have lately! ;)
She was also tested for pets and dust and she is allergic to both which I suspected! Good news is we gave her some rice milk instead of Nutramigen after her treatment as Nutramigen contains Vit A and she liked it. I am thinking of switching her permanently! What do you think? PS: She tested her on Nutramigen and she reacted!
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That's really cool about the egg!!! My son's issues are all intolerances, maybe this is part of the reason. Although months after the treatment he tested to a near wheat allergy via scratch testsand he was desensitised to this several times with many various combinations with other foods through NAET. I do feel that the pathway for his intolerances is not soley immune system problems, it is core nutritional imbalances that effect detoxification processes as well as bacterial imbalances and parasites...all have played a role in poor gut health for him + being in reflux meds for 2 yrs.
How old is she? Rice milk has no fat or hardly any protein so can't replace formula in that way, it is essentially a watery sugary drink ::) Whilst they can be fortified with caclium that's about all that is going for it, and I am iffy about how much is absorbed anyway...
Whilst I say this about rice milk... it's the only "milk" that my son drinks, but I careful not too give too much... maybe only 30ml a day as I don't him to fill up on empty calories. I would be tempted to try some of the other dairy free milks such as coconut (good fat content), oat, quinoa or almond whihc all contain more nutrients, protein or fat one or the other.
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thanks!!
If she gets treated for Vit A, after that one is cleared, she can retest her on Nutramigen. Chances are she isnt reacting to it anymore. Eg, I was very allergic to calcium and the water here is very hard! i was weak with tap water and I even tested weak in the shower (self testing) and then once calcium is clear, i was strong with tap water!
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Thanks girls! She is going to be 2 end of April! Only reason I'm thinking of the rice milk is because I don't like formula I think its full of chemicals! She has been given multivitamins anyway as her diet is so limited so I'm not worried about that. Oats she can't have and I don't know about coconut but I don't want to try anything new at the moment as there else so much going on.
I agree about the poor gut health, I think its the same for Katerina! She was on reflux meds for over a year!! Her therapist said she wants to help heal her intestinal track and has given us some vitamins and some sort of powder to do that. And she doesn't want us to try gluten or dairy for 1 month until she is better, even though we will probably treat her for them quicker. She sounds like she knows what she is talking about. Lets see!
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Hi, as I am in the UK I fel that I need to jump in and say that we are not advised to give rice milk to LO's under the age of 5 here due to the arsenic conent. We use oat milk and top up the fats with a good diet.
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Hu Buntybear, thank you for your comment! Someone else told me about that yesterday actually, I didn't know it! Won't be giving it to her now! I'm considering Almond milk with extra calcium and of course a good diet as I know none of these cows milk alternatives are high in fat! K is allergic to Gluten so oat milk is not an option! :-)
Koe2moe - you are right. This is what she said as well that she might not react to it any more. Will be interesting to see. I asked her about being treated when pregnant and she she said its absolutely fine! :-) She is also doing some craniosacral to K and said to me that it works wonders when pregnant!
UPDATE - Vit A has been cleared apparently! And she was treated for nightshade veg today as I desperately want to give her tomato! Going back tomorrow and then Saturday! Will also start the supplements today to heal the intestinal track!
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thanks for asking :) you should ask her to retest nutramigen before giving it to her. it is so exciting, isnt it? to get things cleared!! fx
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Hmmn, I wish the professionals in our country would align their advice.... I live in UK and have seen a paed and dietician for my son and he said Rice Milk is fine!!
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Lisa, it is on the NHS website so that is REALLY bad of them :-\
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Can I just say? I know regulations sometimes say one thing... but I'm sure all doctors have their own opinion on matters as well. It might be that there are some people out there who really think it is suitable. I have heard from many mums in another forum who have been told to offer rice milk. So not sure this is all black and white.
At least we are lucky enough to have the internet and be able to research things ;) I personally won't take the risk.... if there is one negative thing about it I won't give it to her. Not on a daily basis!
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i mentioned this to DH and being a nerd, he had to research it. He found out that research shows that farmers used to use pesticides containing arsenic and other heavy metals on rice fields and so it still remains in the soil.
i personally am puzzled as we eat a fair amount of rice! How is rice not affected but rice milk only??
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I just looked it up as well and it seems rice does contain arsenic!! I think its just one of those things you know? So many foods we eat now contain things we don't even want to know. Its sad, but true!
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Well that's strange as my natruopath said organic rice milk is fine... and that's what we use. Maybe organic rice milk does not contain arsenic??
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Ok. K was unwell the other day. I'd given her organic corn snack in the morning and then some gluten free organic corn balls after dinner as she was still hungry. She had a very unsettled nap and night. Next day we went for her treatment and discussed it with the therapist. She tested negative for corn so its smt else. Only other thing in the organic snack is sunflower oil so might need to test that. As for the corn balls they contain sea salt and she tested positive for it!
Nightsade veg are clear so tomorrow I'm making her gluten free spaghetti bolognaise! :-) I can't wait! We treated peas today and we'll be doing fish on Monday and maybe shellfish! This is moving fast as we are going very often! Fingers crossed the tasting of different foods goes well! :-)
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poor K. the safest options are things that have been treated, like chicken, eggs. White, not brown rice and cauliflower are usually ok, plus nightshade veg. Minimal processed foods. she can even eat corn!
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Thanks hun. Why do you say white, not brown rice? I thought brown rice was healthier.
She is better now! :-)
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brown rice contains so much more stuff which can be problematic, just refined sugar is not healthy but it is often less likely to cause allergies, of course, unless you are allergic to sugar. It is in the handbook if you have it. When you get the information about what you can eat during the avoidance period, those are the things she can eat along with things that she got treated. I hope this is clear.
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It is. Thank you :-)
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We had another treatment today! Peas seemed to be ok. :-) Won't be trying them yet though as we are going on a trip for 10 days and don't want any surprises! Will start experimenting a bit more beginning of April when we are back!
She was treated for fish and selfish today! :D I can not wait to try all this stuff!!!
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wonderful and a great holiday!!! xx
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Well we had our last treatment for the next 2 weeks as we are going on a trip tomorrow!
K is still slightly unsettled at night. Her eczema also got worse. We went in today, and she tested her for citric acid as we introduced the tomato and she was positive. She as treated for it so hopefully it will be ok now!
I guess time will show!
:-)
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Haven't updated on a while! not sure how K is doing! lol She seems better in her self, putting on weight nicely, eczema is getting better, her appetite has literally doubled in the last month which to me says she is feeling better. But she still has quite a lot of gas. Her therapist says its possible its just that her body is getting used to "new" foods. Not sure what to think. . .
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So good to hear the improvement! :)