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ACTIVITY => E.A.S.Y. Forum => Topic started by: Chloevalentine on June 11, 2014, 13:45:36 pm
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I feel like as soon as we are in a routine, it changes ! Lol. Lo will be turning 1 end of June and I'll be faced with 2-1 transition as well as dropping morning and bt bottkes and switching to milk. That's a lot going on!
What should his EASY look like with either one or two naps? Right now his easy is sonething like this :
Up at 615 am
Bottle at 630-645
Breakfast at 730
Play / free time or walk in stroller
Nap 10/10:15-11:15/11:30 usually 1 hr 15-30 mins
Lunch at 12/1230
Play /free time or errands in car and stroller
Nap 330-4 or 430 either 30 mins or 1 hr he's been fighting this nap sometimes it's even later 4-445 or in the car
Dinner 5
Bedtime start routine around 645 in bed by 7-730. Bedtime is always hard I'm never sure when he's ready. Either it seems like I put him in crib too early and he's awake playing for 30 mins or he's crying and fussy. I have been just trying to do bedtime at 7 no matter what but it does t ajways work out with his morning A time varying as well as that afternoon nap either being 30 mins or an hour and up late from it around 445.
Any suggestions on things to do different ? He's on average 4 hrs A time 2.5-3 befire bed. He also takes 2 bottles still and I'm worried on dropping them. He doesn't eat to sleep at night but I do it with him in chair and feed him and then into crib. What would bedtime routine look like without bottle? As far as morning bottle I will just try up offer him milk in sippy and then breakfast shortly after.
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You know I wouldn't panic about changing from bottles just yet (my DD3 loves her bottles!) as the real issue is if they have them all day or fall asleep with them as it is not good for teeth. I would suggest adding a tooth brushing session in after the bt feed though and then maybe change over to milk gradually and then tackle the bottles after so it isn't so much at once!
As for EASY - well we are on one nap so cannot comment on routine really but not all babies are ready for the 2-1 right at 1 yr - if you start to get ew/nw/bt or nap shenanigans then it is probably time to gear towards one nap.
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Thank you! I'm getting afternoon nap shenanigans for sure. He's doing 4 he's A time so today I tried 5 hrs by accidebt because we weren't home and he still just plays aroubd in his crib doesn't cry but it takes him 15 mins to fall asleep which means he didbt fall asleep until 420!! That's way too late for a nap no? Think I'll wake him in 20 mins and then to bed by 7? He does wake at 615 lately which is kind of early and he also takes a long time to fall asleep at night. But he's not crying he's just winding down. Should I keep trying to extend the morning A time? To try to get towards one nap?
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There are a few ways to go about the 2-1...shorten the morning nap and bring the pm nap earlier and earlier until they are one, push out the morning nap until baby takes a long enough nap and can sustain themselves to bed...or drop cold turkey! The last one does jot work for everyone, I did it with my first two.
There is no way DD3 would do bed after a 20 min nap and that short an A time - do you think he will? Many find during the 2-1 that the day gets a bit longer to fit in the naps.
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After such long A times during the day I find that by night he can't handle such a long A time. Tiday he slept from 425-445 I woke him and I just put him to bed at 730. As of now he's still playing in their not asleep but happy not crying. Ok so if I pushed him to 5 hrs A time in morning his nap might be at 11 and if he only sleeps until 12 or 1 if he did a two hour which he's never done that would still leave a long time until bedtime no? Or if I wake him at 30 mins after 4 hrs A time he will be up aroubd 1030 then wgat time would I put him down for second nap? Geeze this is confusing lol
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How much does he usually nap in the day total right now? If it is a short nap in the am then he should be good to nap from 1:30 - 3:00 and then if that nap is a bust an ebt to compensate? I really only did two weeks of this with DD3 and we did a long am nap/short pm but I totally apop the 2nd nap and then we were on one nap when she fought the 2 nd nap.
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He normally does 1 hr up to 1.5 hrs in the am so from about 10-11/1130/12 ish and then usually just a catnap about 30 mins in afternoon although lately with the longer A time before afternoon nap he's been doibg a 1 hr in afternoon sometimes. Or if we are out he we only do 30 mins in car. I don't think I could keep him awake from 615 am to 130 pm?? Tonight I put him down for bed at 730 and he didbt fall asleep until 8 pm!! But he's happy and not crying so I don't want to go into his room. I just feel bad like he wasn't ready for bed. Bedtime is always tough he always cries when I get him into his pjs and until I start feeding him. Whether he's ot or ut. It always makes me feel bad. He woke at 615 am took an hour nap from 10:20-11:10 and then didn't fall asleep for second nap until 420 and I woke him at 445. What should his A times look like?
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Oh no I mean do a short am catnap and then a longer nap at 1:30 or so...I am not good with A times, mine were all on one nap by 11 months and we did set wakeup/nap/bedtime, thankfully they have all dealt with that okay as doing it the other way just did not work. My DD3 gets upset after her bath until she has her bottle, I think it is not ot or ut for us but rather hunger! She devours that bottle even though she had supper just a couple of hours prior.
Gotta run - baby is up fussing - darn teeth!
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Ah teething! Ok so how do I know if he can handle just one nap? I don't think the short am nap would work especially because he hates being woken up and I don't think he will go down less then 4 hrs for the next nap and I don't think it would be very long. So in the end I just think I would end up in the same situation. He does go down easily for that first nap and it's always decent one hour plus. Wgat would the day look like with just one nap if he's up at 6-630? Would I do nap at 1130 in hopes that it's 2 hours until 130 then lunch and bedtime at 630? I feel like A times never work for us either at least they aren't consistent. And I've tried to do the same bedtime at 7 which doesn't always work either like last night when he was awake in crib until 8!
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We do up at 7:30/8, nap at 1:00/1:30 (1.5-2 hrs tops) & bedtime at 8:00 (works best with the older ones!) so just a bit later but similar to what you were thinking. Do you think he can handle 5 hrs A before and after a nap? Would he tack on at night if needed? (That does not happen here!) At first I did let her nap as long as she would but quickly found I had to cap it - most days 1.5 hrs is enough, though yesterday she had a super busy day at daycare and could have used more sleep.
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I guess if I'm already getting a nap of 1.5 hours (sometimes just 1 hr) I'm not sure if the one nap would be worth it. Unless he continues to fight the afternoon nap. Today he was up at 615 and started to fall asleep while playing on floor so he went down for nap at 4 hrs A time. So i don't think he can handle anymore. I'll try to put him down for catnap around 330 and just let him sleep for 30 mins which he normally does unless his A time is longer than he's down at 4 and he will sleep longer which I don't want. He used to tack on sleep but lately no matter how much sleep he gets daytime or how Kate's he stays up at night he still wakes early at 615! Thanks is much
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Yeah if he is pooped after 4 hrs one nap will have to wait a bit - I think my older two were able to do 4.5 hrs when we dropped to one and then they had a longer nap of 2.5/3 hrs. I wish DD3 could do that!
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Today he was up at 615 took two 40 min naps woke up crying from both and was in bed at 715. I think teeth are coming in. Not sure what else it could be ?!
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Is it the one year molars? Besides eye teeth those (and the two year molars) were the worst! Poor little guy xx
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Ouch! I'm not sure he won't let me in to feel lol. He's got the bottom front 4 and the top front 4 but that's all I can see. I just can't think of why else he would wake from a nap at 40 mins crying.
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On a day like today what would be best? He woke around 625 and fell back to sleep until 740 when u woke him. He never does this must've been tired from lousy naps yesteday. So I put him down for nap at 1130. If he sleeps for an hour hr he will wake and have lunch but afternoon nap will be late around 430 I'm thinking do what if I tried to keep him up and just do EBT? Otherwise he's going to be up late tonight and I just don't think he will handle the 12-13 hour day going to bed at 730/830 when he's normally down at 7. Thoughts? :)
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Does any ap work to get him to have a catnap? How early would you put him to bed?
Oh and yes the next teeth after the front 8 are usually the molars!
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Sometimes he will fall asleep in the car but that doesn't ajways work. What time would I try for a catnap ? 4 hrs would be 430-5 then bed at 8 which is late but I guess his normal bedtime around 7 would be too early if he woke at 5 and too late if he didbt nap right? Oh no the molars are next?!!
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Usually molars and then eye teeth and more molars at two! Some days I wish they were born with teeth!
I would think if he was up at 7:40 then a 4/4:30 catnap and bed for 7:30/8 would do - if you only get one nap I would think bedtime would have to be way sooner - depending on when he woke yk? So if he woke at 1:00 then bt at like 6:00 pm or earlier!
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Ok I'm going to see how the afternoon goes. He slept 1130-1230 going to try a catnap at 4 and bed 730
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Fx you get a good night!
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We did a 30 min nap in car 4-430 and he started to get cranky at 7 so I fed him at 715 and put in crib by 730. He's getting comfortable and trying to fall asleep now at 745. That's why I always wonder if he can handle being up longer but he gets so cranky and I know he's not starving for his bottle because he ate a great dinner at 530. I think he just likes/needs to wind down a little on his own in the crib?
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Yeah he might like that bit of time to wind down...I would think anything more than 20 mins to settle for bed would have me tweaking something but then my kids are all spirited and pretty much zonk out if they are in bed at the right time - key is finding that time!
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I can't seem to find "that" time! Lol he did fall asleep at 745-50 so just about 15-20 mins to settle. When he starts to get unhappy and fussy and cranky I don't know what ejse to do besides get him ready for bed Abd then he just cries starting with get diaper changed pjs and waiting for his bottle. I've been trying to sit in rocker with him and read right before the bottle but hes just so unhappy. Any other suggestions?
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Why not read after the bottle? 15-20 min settling is pretty good, if it went on longer then I would wonder - I assume that if some babies pop right off others need to wind down in bed right?
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He just gets real fidgety after the bottle and seems to want to just go in his crib to wind down or play with his lovey or mobile a bit. Today we had a 30 min nsp woke crying and this afternoon I put him down for nap and he's been in the crib awake now for a good 10 mins! Ugh
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So today he was up at 7:10 my husband put him down for nap at 11:15 and he woke up crying at 1150. I put him down for a nap at 330 and he never fell asleep. He sat in his crib playing and taking apart his mobile ( no small parts) for 30 mins having the best time but never fell asleep!! I fed him at 645 and straight to bed fell right asleep at 7! He was happy and playing all night ! How is that possible ?!
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We had a similar day today where he took a 30 min nap in morning but today was in the car not in his crib. And then he was up crawling and standing and playing and refused afternoon nap again. I put him to be day 630 and he woke up at 9 pm and was in crib awake for a good 30 mins. He started to cry a little but then fell back asleep. Why is he waking he never does that. Im not sure wgat to do tomorrow if he refuses naps again. This is hard
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Those early evening wakings are usually ot for us...but being in the midst of the 2-1 makes it hard as then he can't do a good morning A time after a crap night but then if he refuses the 2nd nap it is just a spiral. I would be tempted to try and push out the morning A time and apop to get as long of a nap as I could and have a one nap day just to see what happens. But I tend to roll that way!
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Well today he woke at 7 am and he went down for nap at 1120 and slept until 130!!! So we are just trying one nap today. Wgat time should I put him to bed tonight ? Should I do normal bedtime at 7?
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Awesome nap! I would play it by ear really - if he is doing fine mood wise after that lovely nap I would try to get as close to 7 as possible (for sleep though - so if he likes to have his solo winddown perhaps in bed 15 min before that?).
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He was in bed by 7!!! So my question is. Tonirrow if he wakes again around 7 and I put him down for nap at 1130 and what if he only sleeps until 12-1230? Today he didbt eat lunch until he woke at 130 so dinner was late at 6 and to bed 'by 7.
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Personally I started giving my kids an early lunch (11 ish) before the one nap so they had full tummies and just did a snack after the nap so supper could be at the normal time.
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That's a good idea! Today didbt work out as planned. He woke at 730 and I was planning on lunch at 1130 nap at 12 but I got stuck out with him and he just fl asleep in car at 1216. I'm going to take a chance and try to transfer him to crib. Which never works usually and I might screw up the nap but I'm going to try
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Fx the transfer works!
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Ok it's not working he's awake standing up in crib darn!! Not crying yet so I'll give him a few mins. But now wgat do I do? Feed him lunch ( he's got to be hungry ) and wgat time do i try again for a nap. He only slept about 10 mins in car? I really screwed this one up lol
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Ugh! Yeah if he doesn't settle I would do lunch and try again in 45 min or an hour.
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Fed him lunch and put him to bed at 120 and he's still awake in crib. What the heck am I going to do?! He's got to be tired! I don't want to get into thd habit of going to get him out of crib when he should be sleeping
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Round 3 just put him down to try again for a nap. So far he's been up for almost 8 hours ! Joy
He's still awake in his crib at the moment !
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So he's still asleep from 315. Do I need to wake him at a certain time in order to keep a decent bedtime?
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How did it end up going? For us if a nap happened as late as 3:15 I would probably only do 45 min but in saying that DD3 does 5/5.5 hr A times and only a 1.5 hr nap anyways.
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He woke after 1 he 20 mins so 435 so my husband is feeding and puttibg to bed now at 730. This was a rough day glad it's over lol
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Lol we all have days like that! Hope he had a good night and today is (was? Not sure what time zone you are in!) better!
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He went to bed no problem at 740 and woke today at 740! Which is late for him. But he's been waking later in am which is nice. Although he is up sitting and chatting a little aroubd 5-530 am. I kept him up tiday from 730-12. We were out so it was hard trying to keep him awake in car but I managed. Got him home have him a snack and a sippy of formula then changed his diaper and put him in crib at 12. He didn't fall asleep until 1215. I think when he's tired aroubd 1130 and I try to occupy him to keep him up he gets ot or a second wind but so far he's still asleep at 1 pm! So fingers crossed. I didn't want to give him lunch before nap because he was tired and a little fussy so I hope the snack helps him ebough to sleep good. Going to do lunch when he wakes and if he wakes at 115 with only an hour sleep should I put him to bed a bit earlier than 730? That will be a long A time if not. Oh no he's up!! 45 mins?! He coukdbt have been ut
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Could be UT chloevalentine.. Here DD can pull at least an extra half hour A after an amazing night sleep like that. 2 nap day then?
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Really wow!! It's just do recent that I bumped him to 4.5 didbt think he could do 5!! When will he tired after a ut nap as I'm not familiar ?
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Who knows? I would only try it if he does an amazing night like that again, otherwise stick with what you know.
I never got the A after an UT nap nailed I'm afraid. On a 45mins nap here DD could go a full A but she is a phenomenon! Hence us going through the 2-1. Always had to do a humongous first A then attempt an UT nap later which was hit and miss for a couple of months. Eventually we just went to one nap and now it seems there's no going back! ::)
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If he doesn't seem tired enough for a nap by 430 it's going to be too late for one no? Think I might just try EBT by 630 instead of the usual 730 and no nap
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Personally I'd try another nap as 45mins is just not enough yk? If he refuses, at least you tried then EBT. Good luck x
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But a full A time of 4 hrs would be 5 pm! Maybe I could try a 30 min catnap at 430-5 then bed later at 8?
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I put him down at 4 and by 425 he was still awake so I went up to get him and he was asleep lol. I'll let him sleep 30 mins until 5 and then feed him at 745 bed by 8 which is very late for him but he will probably need 3 hrs a time. Every day is so different with him! Thanks for your help ;)
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Lol I missed all the excitement! Awesome night, hopefully tonight is just as good. I don't know what I would have done - ebt never flies here so probably would have apop'ed a catnap.
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Oh I've had that before! Thinking I'll get her up now as she's been playing around for 30 mins, to find she's asleep! Little monkey!
APOP doesn't work here, I just send myself loopy. I just think as long as I give her the opportunity to catch up on missed sleep then at least I've done everything I can iykwim? Luckily most of the time my LO tacks on some lost sleep with EBT but that doesn't work for everyone either. I guess it's just trial and error to find out what works for you and your LO.
Hope the night went well.
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He ended up going to bed at 8 so 3 hrs A time after his 30 min nap. I don't think he's ever been up that late ! Lol. He's just getting up now at 7 am which is earlier than he's been waking but still great especially compared to those 550 am mornings! Lol thanks again for all of the support. Don't know what I would do without this site :). Another day of trying to extend morning A time to get one good nap and not too much A time before bed. Sounds so easy hahaha!
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Good,luck! 7am sounds awesome. We had 5.30am here again this am >:(
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Ugh 530! And lo wouldn't fall back? Messes up the while day right. Will u offer 2 naps now or just do EBT?
Today I tried a snack at 1115-1130 of cheese and a little formula in cup an then down for nap at 12. Hope he doesn't wake hungry but it was just too early for lunch. Besides he was tired and he enjoys lunch so much didn't want to try to feed him lunch. I figure i feed him when he wakes up. We will see.....;)
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Ok so he only slept for an hour from 12-1 and woke up crying which he seems to do with every nap. Although is sticking his finger all the way to the back of his mouth so I assume it's teeth. Although he seems pleasant when he's awake not in pain. He had 5 hrs A time! Now im stuck! What do u do this afternoon? He won't go down again befire 5 and that's too late for a nap plus I'm sure he will regret he anyways. Ugh
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We're doing set nap and BT now to combat these early mornings! Not EW as 11hrs nt sleep.
Have you tried w2s and medicating before nap time? What did you do in the end wrt the CN? If he will allow you to apop a car nap earlier, I would've done that for 15mins at 4. But have no experience there as mine won't let me apop!!
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I took him out in car at 4 and nothing! He's still up now crawling around like a maniac but happy! Going to give him dinner soon already gave him bath and I'm going to see how long he lasts awake and happy. Wgat else can I do right?!
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I was getting better naps of 1 hr 15-30 mins when I was putting him down at 4 hrs A time. Wonder if I should go back to that?
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How were the nights and mornings with that A time?
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He would wake earlier than now around 6-630 and he was doing about a 13 hr day but he would fight going to sleep sometimes and we were struggling with that afternoon nap fighting it. It became so stressful trying to get him down so I figured I would try the longer A times and just see. I guess I need to give it some more time? Or push that morning A longer so that we don't gabe such a long night. But when I did that yesterday I only got an hour nap. Should I try to feed him lung first then a nap? Although days when he's up at 630 unless I give him lunch early it won't work and I'm just not sure that he can handle that long of an A and still enjoy his lunch lol. We are leaving for a week vacation tomorrow too so I'm not sure wgat his naps are going to be like
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Well with a vacation in the mix I would just be winging it a bit! Plenty of time when you get back to get back on track. Hope you have a lovely time!
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Thank you :) today he woke early at 630 and his teeth were bothering him and he yawned all morning so I gave him Tylenol and put him to bed at 1015 he passed right out and slept until 1135! When yeaterday he did a 5 hr A time and slept an hour. The inconsistency is hard!
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I know! I am a real type A person but with kids you just have to embrace the fact that nothing will ever be that consistent! Sounds likehe needed the rest, darn teeth!
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So I'm finally getting a good 1.5 hr nap I'm the morning for the past few days after 3.5- 4 hrs A time. He literally falls asleep befire I leave the room! But the afternoon is still tricky. Being that he was never a good napper I don't think he really needs much for day sleep besides the 1.5 hrs but he's up from 12-1230 until bedtime unless he naps in the car for a catnap which can also happen too late and set back bedtime. If he's up at 7 and sleeps from 11-1230 and doesn't nap in afternoon what time should I try for bedtime? Last night he woke around 12 am adter going to bed at 730 which is a first. He never wakes and cries during the night. We've also just starting mixing milk into his formula th past 4 days.
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So lo is up for about 4 hrs before first nap so if he wakes at 715 he's down for a nap at 11:15. And sometimes he sleeps 1.5 hrs and sometimes only 30 mins!! When he does sleep for an hour he's up around 1230 and then I feed him lunch but he doesn't take a second nap because it gets to be too late in the day so he's then up until 7 pm but he's happy and content not cranky and he falls right to sleep and sleeps a good 12 hours. I'm just worried if I try to push him a little to let's say 4.5 hours A time he won't go down for a nap until around 12 which is close to lunch time. So I'm wondering if he would get a good long nap when it's lunch time and he's probably hungry. Any suggestions ? We have also just dropped the morning bottle and I'm mixing formula and milk in a sippy cup. Sometimes he only takes 2 oz sonetimes 5 but he was taking 7-9 from the bottle. He's still taking about 9 oz in bottle at bed.
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He also keeps waking after 30 mins crying at first nap.
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Sorry been a bit awol - have nephews visiting so house is chaotic at best! What about an early lunch and then nap time? Do you think he is ut at the 30 min wake up? Oh and has he had dairy before the milk intro? DD3 can handle some dairy but full out milk gets her constipated and having ezcema flares - she was/is mpi though.
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Sounds like fun by you! Lol. He's had dairy before and he seems to be ok with the milk formula combo. His molars have been coming in now for a whole they are very swollen. He's tired and goes right down so u don't think ut but who knows! I'll try for longer tomorrow. I just hate to feed him lunch first because he's usually tired and doesn't eat well before the nap.
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So today I tried to push out his first naps in hopes of a good one. He woke tiday at 730 I gave him lunch at 12 and put him down for nap at 1230 and he woke at 130! Ugh I sometimes get a longer nap of 1.5 hrs or 30 mins! He's very inconsistent. I thought maybe pushing out his first A time would help me get a longer nap as well as him waking later in day not making A time before bed too long. Now what?! Wheh should I put him to bed? I normally do a 12 he day so should I still put him to bed at 730? Seems like a very long afternoon.
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If his molars are bulging have you tried meds at all? Just to see if it is really affecting sleep or not. I would have tried a bit early bedtime, how did it go in the end?
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Yes I've been giving him Tylenol but it doesn't seem to make a difference with the random naps. He was in bed 7-715 fell asleep. What's the point of trying to move the nap later in day? Isn't it to get one good long nap?! Lol. Should I keep doing the 5 hr A time and feeding lunch first then nap? Should I still aim for a 12 hr day if I'm only getting one 1 hr nap?
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Yes it is to get a long nap - but not every baby needs one! How is his mood on that short of a nap? I would let that guide you as to whether he needs ebt or not.