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Title: TWINS
Post by: Julesnewto2 on July 13, 2015, 01:38:59 am
I am reading The Baby Whisperer Solves All your Problems and have started to implement techniques.
I have 6 mo old fraternal twin girls. They are lovely ladies. Initially they would get up multiple times per night (approx. 2-3 each) and nap in the car, stroller or in someone's arms.
We are three days in and I've seen some great results. We implemented EASY, dream feed and tanking/cluster feeding. I have a few questions.
1) I am cluster feeding in the evening 4 & 6 pm. When I go to fill up their tank at 7 they don't really eat too much more than their original volume of 4 oz. They are still getting up at 5ish. Should I be doing anything else/different?
2) How do I do the PU/PD method with two? Any creative ideas?
Getting them to fall asleep for their naps seems to be a struggle. I can't PUPD effectively and do not want to lose trust. At night they are so tired they can put themselves to sleep easily.
Note: They nap two times per day - 10ish and 2ish.
Thank you from Canada!

Title: Re: TWINS
Post by: Anders45 on July 14, 2015, 14:23:12 pm
Hey. I can't help with your first question, but I can with the second. I have fraternal boy twins. And I agree, they are just lovely. :). For PU/PD and for naps, I've found it's best to do one at a time (jiggling two babies at the same time seems to make mine more mad). I have a wind down for them each individually. So I'll put one down like ten minutes before the other(you'll want more time initially since you are training them), usually the more volatile one and the other is fairly content to play for a couple minutes by himself if the crying one is not nearby. So I hold them vertical with their head above my shoulder and do the shoosh pat until they seem content(oh five to ten minutes) then lay them down. They usually wiggle a little then fall asleep. Sometimes if they are overtired I do this several times. Make sure your pats are rhythmic and gradually get softer. Works miracles. Then I get the other and do the same thing for him. I think the key is to not let them feed off of each other's possible.

Is it possible to get help putting them down for naps just while you are training, or at least until you get down the timing? I think that would be very helpful if you can.
Title: Re: TWINS
Post by: cath~ on July 14, 2015, 14:49:17 pm
Hi there,

With respect to this:
1) I am cluster feeding in the evening 4 & 6 pm. When I go to fill up their tank at 7 they don't really eat too much more than their original volume of 4 oz. They are still getting up at 5ish. Should I be doing anything else/different?
We wouldn't normally expect a 6mo to be cluster feeding.  Maybe try skipping the 6pm feed and just feed at BT?
Here are some sample routines for this age which might give you more of an idea of what to aim for/what might be suitable for your twins.
chronological EASY samples, 4-6 months
chronological EASY samples, 7-9 months

Perhaps you could write out a typical day in EAS format (so we know when they feed and when they are asleep and for how long) and we might be able to advise.  When they get up at 5 is that just to feed then back to sleep?  Do they wake at all before then? What happens when they WU at 5am?  It's normal to still have one or two NFs at this age.
Just to clarify, is your qn about how to eliminate the 5am WU?

I agree with PP that if you can, some help with naps while you're doing PUPD would be really helpful.  Also, trying at the right time can make all the difference (i.e. so they're not UT or OT).  If you post your typical EASY then we can have a look.
Title: Re: TWINS
Post by: Anders45 on July 14, 2015, 17:46:16 pm
Were your twins premature at all? If so, you need to remember that they may be behind the "6 mo right now. For example, you can transition most babies to a four hour schedule when they are three to four months. But my twins were a month and a half premature, so they didn't(wouldn't/couldn't) handle a four hour schedule until they were almost six months. Just some food for thought when tweaking your schedule! Good luck!