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SLEEP => Naps => Topic started by: choc on September 28, 2015, 17:28:10 pm
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My newborn will not nap in his moses basket anymore. He is 2 weeks old and the beg inning of last week was great, he was napping in the basket with just a couple of resettled and dropping off by himself. The last couple of days he just won't drop off in there for hours. My husband went back to work so I have had to start doing the school run which means 2 naps in the pushchair, which went ok although he dropped off a bit later than I thought he should have. Then he has 2 naps in the basket and it's taken me 2 hours each time to get him to sleep. Today I have been in tears.
I read tracys sleep interview and it said to continue waking them up at feed time even if they've only been asleep a short time, which I've been doing. Do you think I should do shh pat to teach him to sleep in the basket? I would have him sleep on me but he won't always do that either.
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(((hugs))) It sounds like you have a spirited LO. Around 2 weeks-6 weeks, babies start waking up more and it can become trickier to get them sleep (which is exhausting for mom).
I would try for 30-60 minutes for a nap and then take a break. Sometimes with spirited or touchy LOs naps just don't happen even though we want them too. My spirited DD missed many naps in her first few weeks.
How are you currently trying to get him to sleep? At 2 weeks, I wouldn't be game to try sh/pat especially with what sounds like a spirited LO but everyone is different. I knew that I didn't have the stamina for it. I think it's ok to help them to sleep when they're small and then work on independent sleep later. I think I mentioned it in your other post, but I would try Dr. Karp's 5s's (http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/video/soothing-techniques-for-baby). If you have a swing or something similar, I would also try naps in there. Both of my LOs had many swing naps in the beginning and it never became a prop. Just 2 weeks ago, he was snuggled up in utero in almost constant motion and some LOs just need that motion to sleep when they are still tiny.
I tended towards not waking my LOs at feed time, especially when they took a long time to get to sleep. With DD, I only woke if it was 4 hours past her last feed. With DS, sometimes he went 4.5/5 hours. I know other mom's have had different experiences but I found that waking to feed didn't make a difference in the night (assuming LO is still getting a reasonable number of feeds in the day). Sometimes these LOs just need to catch up a bit on sleep.
I received great advice about handling stress about sleep and newborn sleep (especially when there's an older LO in the picture) on this thread: Tips for handling sleep anxiety. I turned myself into a basket case fretting about naps with DD and the advice posted there really helped me find a better way with DS.
If you'd like, you can post what one of your days looks like and I can see if there's anything that can be done with his routine (as much as there can be a routine with a newborn ;))
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Thanks for the reply, the video has made things much clearer thank you, I will try that today for sure. After I've done the 5ss and he is calm do you keep doing them til he is asleep then lay in basket or hold them for the nap? Or do you put them down when calm but not asleep?
I will post how yesterday went when I get back from school run!
Another thing, does it matter if no naps are in the basket? Two naps are already in pushchair due to school runs and if I use the swing too that doesn't leave many naps for the basket?
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Yesterday looked like this
E 7.30
S 8.30. In pushchair on school run, I know it's a long A but don't know what else to do.
E 10.30
A held upright for 20 mins to stop sick and hiccups, change nappy then changed again as did another poo immediately. Probably overtired by now?
S 11.15 this is when I attempted to put him down.
S actual sleep is around 12.45
E 1.30 I woke him
S 1.40 on me as soon as bottle finished, the woke for a bit then I put him in the pushchair ready for school run at about 2.30 and fell asleep about 2.40
E 4.30 woke himself
S 5.00 is when I put him down but didn't actually sleep till around 7.45!
E 10.00 dream fed
E 1.00am
E 4am
E 7am
When trying to settle for the long periods we tried a hand on his chest, shhing, holding him. He is swaddled and all was in the dark room.
Today I have noticed that he falls asleep on me after the bottle for about ten mins then wakes up again. So I don't know when his A time starts? When he wakes to eat or when he wakes again after the ten minutes.
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I missed out an E at 7pm.
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After I've done the 5ss and he is calm do you keep doing them til he is asleep then lay in basket or hold them for the nap? Or do you put them down when calm but not asleep?
At 2 weeks, I would put him down asleep or very drowsy but you could try putting him down awake and see what happens. I wouldn't worry too much about creating a prop at this age. You can easily undo it later.Another thing, does it matter if no naps are in the basket?
I tried to aim for 1 nap/day in the bassinet but it didn't always happen. If he's not sleeping in the basket and you're feeling exhausted, I'd say go for the swing for now!
My 2 are up from there naps so I'll try get back on to look at your EASY later.
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Thank you, I'd like to pick your brains on the last nap becoming a catnap and fitting a bath in too when you have time to look at my easy! If that's oK.
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Really struggling today, he has had barely any sleep. I've spent the whole morning trying. I've tried pushchair which gave him an hour sleep after walking for 45 mins and rocking it for another 45mins. For the next nap I've tried the moses basket and I've done the 5Ss which calmed him down great but he didn't fall asleep, I did it for a while but arm was really hurting so had to put him down. I've now got him in the swing but every time the dummy falls out he screams. He's been awake 2 hours now and just don't know what to do in this situation.
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(((hugs))) My DD also did some very long A times when she was a newborn where she just wouldn't nap. I know how frustrating and stressful it can be. I also totally get having to quit the 5s's because of a sore arm! I usually laid DS in my arms and jiggled his head in the crook of my elbow instead. Try to remember that it's just sleep and he will be ok. How is his mood when he's awake? Is he calm or fussy?
If you're feeling tired and he's not sleeping, would he lay on you or beside you in bed (or in his basket near the bed with our hand on him) just so you can get some rest? Some moms also swear by a sling in the early days. Do you have a sling library near year so you could borrow one to try?
I looked over the EASY. Was that first A an hour (7:30-8:30)? If it was, I wouldn't consider that overly long (and if he napped until 10:30 then it was probably ok). Some newborns only do 45 minutes and some need more. There was no way my DD was ready for sleep after 45 minutes. DS did sometimes but his A times were more 1h/1h15 minutes. Some LOs skip the sleepy newborn stage and are quite alert. Does this sound like your DS? Are you waiting for him to yawn before you try to put him down? When DD was tiny, I spent way too much energy trying to get her to sleep when I thought she *should* be sleeping instead of leaving her when she was content and watching for cues.
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I have been watching to put down at the first yawn but that first A is pretty set due to school run.
The rest of the time I am aiming for first yawn which can some times be after around half an hour, sometimes less. If we lay him down too soon after a feed though he can be really sick so wwe sometimes end up missing the window It's he yawns when we are still holding him upright and we haven't even changed hisnappy yet! by the time we've done it it is too late.
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Also, in the end I gave up with that nap and just got him up and tried again on the next one which was in pushchair for school pick up.
Can I also ask, should his last nap after the 4pm feed be a catnap or a full nap as he is having now? If it should be a catnap do Iwake him? If iit's a full nap how will I ever fit in a bath!
Tonight we put him down after a couple of yawns and sat with hand on chest and he went off to sleep in around half an hour. Does that sound OK? Although I'm sure he's extra tired from the missed nap and it probably won't go as smoothly tomorrow!
Sorry for all the questions, thanks for your support.
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Can I also ask, should his last nap after the 4pm feed be a catnap or a full nap as he is having now? If it should be a catnap do Iwake him? If iit's a full nap how will I ever fit in a bath!
If he hasn't had much sleep earlier in the day, I would probably allow a full nap (unless it's pushing BT much later than you want - it's a bit of a balance of his needs and yours). At this age, I often bathed my LOs in the morning. You could try to do it when your older one is at school. I didn't bath every day either. A full bath every 3 days and a top and tail each day.
Are you aiming for the same BT every night? Some moms do start early with a consistent BT and that does require waking an LO from the last nap so they are tired for BT. I preferred to just let the chips fall where they may with BT depending on how the day went and work on establishing a set BT when they were older.
Tonight we put him down after a couple of yawns and sat with hand on chest and he went off to sleep in around half an hour. Does that sound OK?
That sounds great!
When trying for a nap, I would set a limit of about 40 minutes before abandoning the nap and trying again later. I spent way too much time in a darkened room trying to get DD to sleep and all it did was frustrate us both.
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E 4.30 woke himselfS 5.00 is when I put him down but didn't actually sleep till around 7.45!
I just reread this and realized I missed it before. He slept pretty much all afternoon so he likely wasn't tired after 30 minutes. He probably ended up getting OT while fighting sleep. If he yawns half an hour after a good nap, I would ignore it unless he continues to yawn. I remember DS feeding and then he'd yawn but he was usually good for another 20-40 minutes after that and then he'd start yawning again.
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What is considered a good nap? Is 1 and a half hou rs Ok or should it be 2? I will ignore a yawn then too soon after a good one.
I will carry on with full length nap in evening then. I want bedtime at 7/7.30pm ideally. Will he turn it into a catnap himself or is that something I need to do when he is a little older?
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Generally, 1.5 h or more is considered a restorative nap. If you want to keep BT at 7/7:30 you may need to wake him from the last nap. That nap will likely turn into a CN on it's own as he gets older.
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Ok great. Thanks for all your help!
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Hi, I'm back and needing some more help please! I have been trying for one nap a day in the moses basket and the only one that it can be really is the last nap of the day before bedtime, after his 4.30pm feed. But I just can't get him to take the nap. I've tried everything. I'm obviously not reading his cues right and have no idea if I'm putting him down too early or too late. We do a wind down. I have used the 5ss which calm him but he won't actually sleep. I've stayed with him, hand on chest, patting, rocking, holding, swaddling. I just don't know what else to do. If it helps here is what happened today
E 7.30
S 8.30 pram on school run
E 10.30
S 12.30 (put down earlier) in pram in living room as had visitors and couldn't be upstairs settling for hours
E 1.30
S went straight back to sleep in my arms then transfered to pushchair for school run
E 4.30
Put down at 5.20 as was really fussy, crying and seemed a bit 'staring'. Didn't see a yawn though.
Was maybe UT then? Any advice on what to do?
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Can you post the end time of each nap? I am assuming the naps are lasting until he eats next but I want to be sure before I give advice.
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Yes the naps do last til the next feed.
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So aside from being awake for to eat, he slept from 12:30-4:30? If that's the case then he definitely wasn't tired at 5:20. Babies are often fussy at the "witching hour" (5/6 pm - right when we're busiest with other LOs and getting supper ready ;)) so I think that may be the source of the crying. I would give at least 1h30 A time after an afternoon like that unless he is clearly drowsy and yawning. He may even do more - some babies are quite alert in the early evening.
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Ah OK. I think I am so worried about OT that's why I am putting him down so early. So much you read says 3 and 4 week olds are only awake long enough for feed and nappy change so I didn't know he might be OK to stay awake that long! Yesterday I had to resettle many many times during all his naps for the first time ever. Do you think this might be to do with being UT as well? He was also awake for about 3 hours in the night last night, which is also a first for him. Could that also be UT?!
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I think I am so worried about OT that's why I am putting him down so early. So much you read says 3 and 4 week olds are only awake long enough for feed and nappy change so I didn't know he might be OK to stay awake that long!
I was the same with DD. Some babies are just more alert. Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child has some good stuff on sleep (and some absolutely horrid stuff on CIO) and it talks about the window being anywhere from 1-2hrs and just following cues for the first 3-4 months. It might be worth a read (please, please ignore the CIO stuff) if you need some reassurance.
Honestly, sleep went so much better with DS when I gave up worrying about A times and just went with cues. Some As were long and some were short. I also didn't wake him from naps very often. DH always said I "messed with" DD too much (waking her, trying to get her to sleep before she was tired, etc) and I didn't agree at the time but I think he's right. It would have been easier to let her lead a bit more when she was a newborn.
The resettling could be UT but it could also be developmental. How old is he know? I think he's approaching a big mental leap that can disrupt sleep.
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On Sunday he will be 4 weeks.
The thing is I have been watching his cues. I go up for the wind down on the first yawn. He does actually yawn not long after he wakes up but I have learnt to ignore that and wait for the yawn that is roughly around an hour ish of A time. Maybe that yawn is not reliable either? I just got him to drop off in his basket so I'm happy with that but it took 45.mins. Earlier today it took one hour, but again he fell asleep in the basket which is good.
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That's great that he's sleeping in his basket. It sounds like the yawns may be unreliable. What about waiting about 10-15 minutes after a yawn to see if that helps?
There is a huge developmental leap around 4 weeks which can really impact sleep.
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Ok, do you mean wait 10 to 15 mins to see if he yawns again or to start wind down 10 to 15 mins after he yawns?
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Well I thought I had nailed it today. I didn't take him up on the first yawn, I waited 10 more minutes and had 2 more yawns in that time so we went up and he was asleep within 15 mins! I was so happy! But then he woke at 30mins. I assume OT as I took longer to put him down, but what doesn't make sense is that usually it takes me an hour to get him to sleep after roughly 1 hour A time, so that adds up to 2 hours awake and he hasn't woken at 30 mins then?! Anyway I had to keep trying to resettle him for 40 mins then got him up. . This has never been a problem before, getting him to sleep was the problem but never keeping him asleep! He usually does 2 hour naps at least. I'm not sure what to do for the next one now.
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My DD did lots of 20-30 minutes naps around 4 weeks. It's often developmental.
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Ah OK, so not necessarily OT?
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They may not be OT. It can be tough to tell with spirited babies. Have you heard of the Wonder Weeks? There's a good website and an app that explain what wonder weeks are (huge developmental leaps), when they happen and how they impact sleep. At 4 weeks. babies really start waking up to the world and some would rather look around then sleep (and then end up OT and OS after the short naps - but things will get back on track).
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I realise I sound like such a moaner but I really feel like I can't do this. 2 weeks ago he would take ages to go to sleep in his basket if at all, but once asleep would sleep for hours. at night he would go straight back to sleep after his feed. Now he takesnearly 2 hhours to get to sleep for a 30 min nap that I can't resettle and stays awake all night. I don't know what to do. Sometimes I think I'll give up but he won't sleep on me or in swing either so I wouldn't know what to do with him. I need him tosstart self soothing or something. I have no plan though.
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Just popping on to lend HUGS and to also just say FWIW your LO is still SO SO young and honestly, if you peak at EASY sample routines you won't find too many for babies under about 6 weeks old. Many start around 8 weeks. This is very likely due to the unpredictable patterns of newborns with being sleepy, getting vaccines, cluster feeding and growth spurts, etc. I think it is okay if you do what you need to get through to a more predictable age and then work on some more consistent sleeping. Not trying to say you can't or shouldn't follow a routine but I know I did a lot of APOP with my older two around when DD2 first came home from the hospital and that truly got us through the roughest parts of the newborn days and didn't create any habits as LOs that young don't really form associations or develop habits as of yet. Have a read through the sample routines for 0-3 months. The lady who compiled them even points out that she could not find a routine that was submitted for any babies under 6 weeks. So you have plenty of time! Try to enjoy your newborn baby and get lots of snuggles and cuddles!
chronological EASY samples, 0-3 months
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Thank you, I know I need to just chill out, I just find it so hard. He has had a half hour nap all day today and it is 2.30pm. We'vebeen resettling him all day and even apop doesn't always work. I think he is suffering from wind and also reflux so we are seeing a doctor next week. I just don't know what to do with him the times he won't sleep anywhere!
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If he does have reflux that could definitely be causing problems with sleep especially as he gets older. My son had it and week 3 was the worst ever and I was being the doctor to help. They did and things started to settle down after zantac and me eliminating dairy from my diet.
I know it's hard to relax when they're so upset. Do you have anyone who can step in and give you a break at all?
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My husband takes over when he gets home but then I never really see him as I need to go to bed pretty soon afterwards!! I am praying the doctor will help us. I have just been talking to my husbands cousin who's little one has reflux and she said everything I described sounded exactly like her lo. It has made me feel a bit better that it's not my fault and out of my control in some ways. I just wish more apop would work. He won't always sleep on me/in the swing etc. And at night he is wide awake after he Has had hiccups and won't usually sleep on me then either. But we will see.
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(((hugs))) Nicole's given you great advice. These really are early days and unpredictability is part and parcel of that. My DD had a week of very few naps (and only 20-30 minutes) at 4 weeks. It was a tough week but we got through it and then things got better again. Try not to spend all of your time putting him to sleep or worrying about if he should be sleeping. Get out a bit if you can - I find that always helps me.
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Thanks for the reassurance. I'm more and more convinced that it's the reflux causing a lot of the problems and I just pray the doctors will help. I've heard it's not easy to get the right meds from a gp so fingers crossed it will be OK for us. Until I see the doc I will try to keep calm!
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Good Luck!
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My problem right now is that no apop seems to work! I tried to get him to sleep for 2 hours in my arms but he just won't close his eyes. He won't sleep in a swing either. I haven't got the car and anyhow have had no time to get dressed and eat breakfast anyway! I don't have a sling yet either although to be honest I can't see him sleeping in one anyway, he is always too busy looking around. I covered his eyes a day That didn't work either. Any other ideas?
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Some LOs just don't respond to apop. My DD was one of them. I could get her to sleep in a sling but only in a dark, quiet room which is silly really. Sorry, probably not what you want to hear.
I think as he goes through this wonder week, I would just try to make peace with the fact that he's going to be awake a lot. You can lead a baby to bed, but you can't make him sleep, yk?
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Ok, so we had two 30min naps today! I'll have to hope for better next week then!
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My DD does best in her bed. She takes really really short naps in a carrier or stroller or swing. I feel your frustration. It'll get better. I promise.
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He went to sleep really easily in his pushchair today on the school run but woke up at 30min on the dot! Used to be 2 hours! I'm trying to resettle him now by pushing the pushchair back and forward but I don't think he'll go.
I have a question though, when he short naps how do I keep my easy going? We are on a really good eating routine every 3 hours but how do I avoid messing that up and not getting into a ES routine as he will be ready for sleep straight after the feed I imagine as his A time will have been before the feed?!
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but woke up at 30min on the dot! Used to be 2 hours!
Try not to think about what it used to be. This is just a blip. Things change so fast when they're tiny and you'll settle into a new routine for him soon.
As it's still early days, I wouldn't stress too much about doing ES. I would stick with the feeding routine that works for you and if you can't do any A before S, so be it. I rarely did ES with DD because I was fearful of creating a prop but the few times I did (when naps had been short) it did often lead to a longer nap. I relaxed more with DS and there were lots of times I fed him right before sleep (still do, actually). There were times he fell asleep nursing but it didn't become a prop. If it did, your DS is young enough that it could be undone fairly easily.
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Ok brill, thanks for the advice.
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I'm back with a new development! Ds has started to self settle a little! It started after his night feeds, he stopped dropping off on the bottle so much and so we had to put him down awake and henjust fell asleep. So I decided to see if he would do the same for naps and sometimes he does. This is what we are doing at the moment and he will usually settle himself: he usually yawns dead on an hour A time. We go to his room, wind down, and by the time I leave the room it's about 10 mins later. Then he takes about 20mins to drop off. Which I know is normal. The problem is that he is now waking after 20 mins, not even doing 30min anymore. Is it because his A time actually works out at 1.5 hours by the time he's asleep? Should I have him in the basket before the 1 hour and first yawn? I'm worried he will then be UT and resist the nap. Or are the 20 min naps because he has learnt to self settle and will they extend on their own? I can't always resettle. Sometimes he does himself but it can take good half an hour, with or without my help!
Any insight? X
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If he's going to sleep on his own and resettling, I would keep doing what you're doing and celebrate your success! That's huge for any small baby, but more so for a spirited one.
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He has started to settle at the start of the nap but can't resettle after waking at 20 or 30 mins. I can tell resettle him here either. So should I carry on and see if they extend themselves?
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What did yesterday look like?
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Yesterday
E 7.30
S 8.30 put down but didn't drop off til at least gone 9am but it was hard to tell if he was awake or asleep. Stayed in bed til 10am trying to resettle after he started crying.
E 10.30
S 11.30 put down on first yawn, not sure if he slept at all, lots of noises but I couldn't tell. Got him up after he cried and tried toresettle but couldn't.
E 1.30 allowed to fall asleep on me afterwards so he could get a decent nap.
S 2.00 til 4.45
E 4.45
S 6.15 but didn't sleep
6.45 bath
E 7.00
E 1.45 am.
E 4.00 am
Had to wake at 7.45 am
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It's a bit hard for me to tell how long the naps were. I'm not sure about the morning. Did he not nap at all? Could you post the end time for each nap? Ex: S: 9-9:30
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Sorry for the delay, we've all been struck down with an awful vomiting bug so have been completely off track the last few days. I can't remember what really happened on the day I posted either so I will post what another day looked like when we are better and back on track.
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Sorry to hear you were sick. ~~~Get well vibes for you all~~~
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Thank you, we are on the mend now . just praying baby doesn't catch it!
I feel like once we have a short nap then the a times are so long afterwards from trying to resettle etc that the following naps are all bound to be short from OT. I don't know how to avoid it and keep my feeding routine on track. This was yesterday
E and wake up 8.30
S 9.30 self settled, woke 10.10. I left to resettle but he didn't so I tried til 11.30 and then got him up.
E 11.30
S 12.10 put down and self settled to sleep at 12.20. Woke 12.50. Again left to self settle but didn't, I tried to resettle but couldn't so got him up at 2.15
E 2.30
S 4.20! On my lap. Was the only way I could get him down. I tried basket, push chair, swing but was beside himself with OT and finally got him to drop off on me at 4.20 until 6pm.
E 6.00
Couldn't get him to take a catnap.
E 7.15
S 7.30
Is this what they call an OT cycle? I don't know how else to play it without putting him back down to sleep at the time he should be eating but I know his a times are ending up stupidly long. Also I can never get him to take the catnap no matter what sort of nap/day he has before it.
This morning started well.
E and wake up 7.15
S 8.25 self settled immediately, woke at 9 but self settled, woke at 9.20 and I settled him quickly. Slept til 10.30.
E 10.30
S 11.30 in car til 12
E 1.30
S 2.15 in car and napped on and off til 4.15 on school run
E 4.30
S tried at 5.40 but it wasn't happening.
E 7
S 7.15
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It could be an OT cycle but you could also have a short napper. Some LO's just don't lengthen their naps until they're older.
Are you breast feeding or bottle feeding? I can't remember. Either way, I wouldn't stress about feeding at exactly 3 hours. Sometimes feeding does get messed up when naps are short and it generally is no big deal. If you think he's ready to sleep but it's not "time" to eat, I wouldn't keep him up. I would feed him (as much or as little as he wants) and then put down for a nap.
How often is he eating in the nights?
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He is bottle fed and feeds twice in the night, 1am ish and 4am ish.
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That's great if he's only eating twice in the night!
If nap times get wonky in relation to feed times then I would just offer a part bottle and see how much he takes and then put him to sleep. I wouldn't keep him up until it's time to eat. I know the BW books say to beware of "snacking" but sometimes it just needs to happen when they're young and unpredictable. If you were breastfeeding the advice would be to feed at least 10-12 times/24 hours so I don't think an extra or bottle or 2 will create a bad habit.
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Ok, thanks. Now got to try and find a way to get the catnap as he is having a very long A to bedtime at the moment. I can't AP it at all so not sure what to do really. I get him down to bed as early as I can but it's hard as it's dinner time etc for the rest of the family and our only time with ds 1.
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If it helps, my mom said she can't remember ever doing a CN - just a long A to BT. All 3 of us turned out fine :) If he just won't take a CN, I would just enjoy your family supper and get him to bed as early as you can. Do you have a swing or bouncy chair? My DD was often content in the swing in a darkened room so at least she got some rest.
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That's good to know. I tried the swing in the dark but he wasn't having any of it!
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Then put the swing near the table, pop him in and enjoy your family supper!
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Ok, we Have been doing that this week!
I seem to have cracked the first nap, he has it in his pushchair even if it's the weekend and we aren't going on the school run I put him in the pushchair. He goes in at 8.20am as that's the time we would be leaving. I don't even need to move it, just cover it with a blanket and he self settles and sleeps for 2 hours at least with no resettling needed etc. I am so happy we have achieved this but now need to try and emulate it for the other naps which isn't happening at the moment.
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One good nap for a spirited bub (and self settling) at that age is cause for celebration :D The rest will come. Lots of tiny LOs have one good nap and a few short naps at that age.
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Great! Thanks x
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Sorry I have been MIA. Being back to work has really left me with little time to pop online. :(
In any case, it sounds like you are doing great! Definitely heading in the right direction and also sounding like getting that one good nap is helping things be less stressful overall.
Any word on the reflux? I probably missed it having been off for so long.
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Hi, thanks for checking on me! Naps have been going great actually. Today I had to wake him from every nap after either 1.5 or 2 hours! The only downside is that all naps are in the pushchair. He self settles in it most of the time without it even moving, just parked in the dining room. So not ideal that he doesn't sleep in his room but a lot less stressful, I can usually put him down and just walk away!
The only slight issue we have now is not a nap issue, but he wakes at about 5am and is mega restless and awake on and off until 7am. So I don't get any sleep during that time.
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Is he sleeping the rest of the night?????
I save had the 5 am restless monster a few times as well. Try wake to sleep. Wake him slightly around 4am but not enough to fully wake him and see if that helps him sleep past the 5am wake up. If it works, continue for a few nights to change the sleep cycle pattern around that time.
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He sleeps Ok the rest of the night, he wakes for one or two feeds and usually goes straight back to sleep. He is very noisy all night though! Then at about 5 the noises turn into cries and major shuffling around, straining noises etc.
OK I'll try the w2s tonight, thanks.
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w2s is a good suggestion. DS was also restless from 5-7am. I ended up using the swing a lot during that time.
That's great he's doing good naps. I wouldn't worry about him being in the push chair. When you're both ready, it will be easy enough to transition him to his crib.