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Title: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 06:44:59 am
Hi, my little girl 32 months has always been hit and miss re sleep as most are we have had periods of early wake up which to be fair have pretty much sorted themselves out with little help as when I’ve tried to intervene it just makes it worse 🤦‍♀️

The problem I’m having at the minute is she is waking early, before 6am, not entirely sure exactly when as she does stay quiet in her room, I tend to wake up myself and happen to check on her on the monitor and she’s wide awake, rolling around the bed.

The main problem is she’s a miserable cranky mess by lunchtime and will then try and take a longer nap to compensate for the early wake up. What happens then is this will result in a later bedtime but still an early wake up, if that makes sense?

My question is, should I be consistent and keep the nap capped at an hour which is her average? The issue I have is if it goes more towards and hour and a half it affects bedtime 🤦‍♀️🙄

Yesterday we had a lovely morning out planned but. Y lunchtime she had a massive tired meltdown! She had a car nap on our way home for about 55 mins and I put her to bed earlier but again she’s been up with the larks this morning.

Her room is blacked out and there are no noises that wake her. She does occasionally wake to use the potty but when she wets in her pull up she can stay asleep. She’s even leaked through and not woken up before now.

I’d be satisfied if she was happy and not a grumpy miserable mess all blummin day! I’d accept that maybe she’s looking to drop her nap maybe.
She’s currently bouncing round like a loon and happy as anything but my anxiety is already on the up cos I know as the morning goes on she become horrible.

I’m struggling at the minute with my anxiety as my oh has been working away for 3 months and my lo has pushed every boundary there is whilst he’s been away. All credit to my single parent friends out there, 3 months has been long enough. I don’t have any respite either apart from when I go to work and she goes to Nursery. Not really a break I know 🙄😳

Any help would be appreciated, thanks xx
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 08:30:58 am
Anyone? I really don’t know what to do at nap time today 😳
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 18:25:49 pm
Ok, so I went for a slightly earlier, by 15 mins, nap and let her have an hour and 15 mins. She woke less miserable than usual and has played well this afternoon. As I’m not entirely sure how early she woke this morning but I knowwas before 6 as this was when I checked on her. I put her down for just after 7 and she’s still awake and just mooching around the bed. I’m at a loss as to what to do now. She has always been ok at righting herself but I’m so scared of getting into an overtired situation I try desperately to tweak here and there. Should I just leave her be? I really don’t want to do by any earlier than 7 down as it will be too rushed and also I don’t want to start encouraging the early mornings.
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 18:30:33 pm
Can I add it's so difficult with a child that will stay quiet in her room. Not that I’m encouraging her to start yelling for me at stupid o’clock, she willnif she isn’t well and of course I go to her then.
Sleeping and eating, it’s one or the other. She will either sleep well and be a pain with her meals or eat like a horse and the sleep goes out the window 🤦‍♀️🙄
Blummin toddlers, newborn stage was so less exhausting 😳🙈
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 16, 2018, 19:17:37 pm
Hi sorry you’ve had no replies and I’ve been busy at work.

It’s a good thing that’s she happy to be content in bed and in theory she is resting still.

Personally I’d cut the nap to 20 mins and do a couple ofcearlier BT just to see if you can get an 11/12 hour night and then get out of the OT/UT loop you can get in with the 1-0 nap transition.

At this age DS1 was a nightmare sleep wise for me, if I let the nap be longer than 20 mins he woke grumpy and took a good hour to cheer up then would pull a 14 hour day. FWIW we had 5.30 wake ups for a year (sorry) nothing fixed it and he’s still an early riser now of between 6/6.30 at 6 yrs old.

Sometimes we can’t fix it, DS2 is totally different and at 27 months only has an hours nap but pulls 11/12 hour nights and hardly EW’s and I’ve had same routine for both.

It must be super tough doing it alone for a while but try not to let sleep get to you too much, with any sleep transition OT can kick in but she will get through it and will catch up at some point.
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 19:53:42 pm
Hi, thanks hun. I guess I’m just feeling a little anxious as I’ve been on my own for so long now, hysteria is kicking in. You watch, on Wednesday when I’d like to sneak in a slightly earlier car nap on route to collect daddy from the airport, she will sleep in and then resist the nap 🤦‍♀️😂
I think she’s having a growth spurt for sure, never known her this hungry 😳. Usually she’s like a sparrow and picky as anything. She’s also super active too, lots more running and jumping and general giddiness. I’m hoping this isn’t ot 😳🙈
I do get terribly anxious over sleep 😔. I’m currently having cbt for my anxiety, I can’t explain where the fixation on sleep comes from. On holiday recently I was super chilled and lo managed to be flexible and pleasant 🙄
I need to try and chill about it but it’s hard with my anxiety 😔
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 16, 2018, 20:02:01 pm
Awhh well keep posting on here everyone happy to chat and help you feel less anxious.

I was very anxious with sleep with my DS1 but with DS2 I’m more relaxed because I realised DS1 survived on whatever sleep and me worrying didn’t make it better....I know easier said than done!

Keep feeding her and lots of physical stuff to tire her out  ;D
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 20:11:14 pm
My logic brain says just get over it as I can’t actually control her sleep. I think it’s just cos it’s been me on my own having to deal with the backlash of a tired toddler 😳🤦‍♀️
She’s just so restless in bed at the minute too. I’ve already rescued her tonight when I heard a thud as her head bounced off the wall next to her bed. She gone sideways 🤦‍♀️ 
I wouldn’t mind but she’s had a busy ish day today, swimming this morning and playing in nannas garden most of the afternoon with her cousin so lots of running about and slide etc. I then start wondering if she’s done too much and made her too tired. Then I think, just stop thinking!!!
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on April 16, 2018, 20:12:48 pm
Sometimes it is just a phase.

Maybe try an earlier BT just to see if it helps x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 20:17:35 pm
I do hun and sometimes it works by tagging the sleep onto the start of the night but never on the end 😳
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 16, 2018, 20:19:06 pm
Hopefully daddy can take a few EW for you soon x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 16, 2018, 20:22:08 pm
Definitely 👍🏻😂. Thanks again for replying. I’m off to bed in a min cos surprisingly I’m pooped and got work tomorrow 🙄
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 16, 2018, 20:33:52 pm
Sleep well hun tomorrow’s a new day x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 17, 2018, 06:03:38 am
Typical. She woke again around 5:30 ish I’m guessing as I woke at 5:45 and checked and she looked like she’d just woken up. She has now gone back to sleep at 6:45!! And it’s time to get up now 🤦‍♀️
Jeez I hate waking her, at least it’s nursery day today so they can put up with the bad moods 😂
Nap transitions suck big time!! I’d love a nap 😴😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 17, 2018, 12:21:34 pm
Typical! Hopefully she is good for you tonight x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 17, 2018, 15:12:25 pm
Fingers crossed 🤦‍♀️❤️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on April 17, 2018, 15:16:45 pm
😊x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 17, 2018, 15:29:35 pm
I asked Nursery to cut her nap to 45 mins 😳😳😳
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on April 17, 2018, 17:32:07 pm
Worth a try give it a few days to work x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 17, 2018, 18:11:27 pm
Currently the worst bedtime we’ve ever had, screaming going to bed and clinging onto me 🤦‍♀️😔
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on April 17, 2018, 20:32:48 pm
That sounds more developmental or SA than tired. How was her day?
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 18, 2018, 05:19:43 am
Was a good day at Nursery. She had 45 mins nap and was a little bit off after but soon came round.
It may be sa as her dad has been away for 3 months 🤦‍♀️😳
So far so good after a testing start to the night she’s still asleep at 6:20 👍🏻
I’m not as you can see!!! 🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 18, 2018, 06:29:30 am
6:55 wake up today and in a good mood 👍🏻
Fingers crossed she’s caught up a bit now x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on April 18, 2018, 11:58:58 am
It may be from daddy coming back it’s a change to her routine of just you maybe. Fab night though x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 21, 2018, 12:33:38 pm
Hi, daddy wasn’t back at that point so wasn’t that. We’ve done a few days of shorter naps, yesterday at Nursery was the shortest at 30 mins and she happily went to bed at her usual bedtime. Not sure what time she woke this morning as her monitor wasn’t working so I couldn’t check. She’s been in a good mood, no major meltdowns so I think I’m just gonna go with the flo. I don’t really want to move bedtime earlier if I can help it cos she loves to watch bedtime hour and knows she has her bath after and then to bed. If she looks really tired I may shorten bathtime by 10 mins or so.
Fingers crossed she manages to tag extra sleep onto her mornings 🤦‍♀️
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 21, 2018, 19:54:50 pm
Oh sorry was confused with when daddy returns/returned!

Definitely good to be able to go with the flow a bit as the 1-0 nap transition is a bit wing it and see 😉
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 22, 2018, 05:45:27 am
Got no choice really as she won’t sleep any earlier at night and still wakes before 6!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 22, 2018, 06:03:19 am
Hopefully once nap goes you’ll get more night sleep x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 22, 2018, 07:35:44 am
If she doesn’t she’s gonna be a bit of a mess!!! How lovely my would you give it before considering we introducing a nap or re lengthening? Miserable dd makes my anxiety rocket  :'(
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on April 22, 2018, 07:46:23 am
I don’t know whether she would cope or not without a nap to be fair. How much is it habit because of Nursery and the routine, which we tend to replicate at home. I think I’m just going to continue on the reduced nap and see how she goes. Just kills me when I think she’s not getting enough sleep. I wouldn’t mind but she’s now active than she’s ever been. Dancing and jumping and running. Do you think it’s more development issues? Sorry, I just struggle with anxiety and hubby doesn’t get it x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 22, 2018, 12:10:38 pm
The 1-0 is a pain of a transition and you can get OT build up and grumpy kids as they know their mind a bit more and like DS2 here for last 2 weeks decided he’s not napping lol he’s 27 months and I don’t think ready to drop nap but what can you do....so I’m doing appropriate timed walk or drive to get at least 30/40 mins in and then earlier BT.

I’d give it a good week and if nothing gets better then maybe try a walk or drive to get a little nap in.

I know it makes you anxious and no amount of anyone telling you that it will be ok will help but it will pass and she will may be a grouch for a while but then she will get used to new sleep pattern and grouch will end.

But developmental phases can affect sleep so it may be that x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 22, 2018, 17:06:31 pm
Thanks again. I’m biting the bullet and opting for a slightly earlier bedtime. Thank god for iplayer so I can reinact bedtime hour  ;D
She was pasted at lunchtime and we were out so she car napped Home, about 45 mins, she’d have slept longer cos she normally wakes as she knows the bumps in our toad but she stayed asleep, hubby made noise and woke her and she was proper miserable, hence the early bedtime  ::)
We had a prang in the car, 5 mins into her nap, someone scraped down her side of our car, she woke slightly but then went straight back to sleep, defo pooped bless her. When we came in after her nap she was clingy and whingey and wanted to sit in my knee. She soon came round and was bouncing about. They find their energy from somewhere don’t they?
Wish me luck and thank you for being there to chat to, hubby thinks I’m a nut job I’m sure and my mum just thinks she shouldn’t be napping anymore cos none of the other grandchildren napped like she does  >:( she thinks I force her to nap!!!
I’ll be glad when it’s all done withnif I’m honest, the transition is a killer, people are right when they say this can be the hardest!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 22, 2018, 18:15:04 pm
Ok, so early bed has worked for less fidgeting and asleep within minutes. Let’s hope the early wake ups were ot related and she catch up again  ::) ???
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 22, 2018, 18:48:32 pm
Oh dear so sorry to hear about the car, hoping the night goes well for you.
My DS1 used to wake up evil for a good hour but number 2 is easily pleased with a bit of tv bribery to get out of the grump.

All kids are different some like naps till they’re 4 some give up at 2...

Yahey for early BT enjoy the extra bit of peace xx
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 22, 2018, 19:44:53 pm
That’s what I said to her dad. I said I’m gonna have to put her to bed early at least for my own sanity today!!
Tomorrow is another day hey?!  ;)
Thanks again for your support xx
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 22, 2018, 19:59:00 pm
Everything is always a phase and tomor is always another day! Sleep well and I hope that tomo brings you a decent wake up.


Your welcome  :-* xx
 
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 23, 2018, 05:32:43 am
Ok, so early bedtime worked as she is still asleep at 6:30. The question is, what do I do for nap and bedtime today?  ???  ;D ::)
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 23, 2018, 06:30:50 am
yahey amazing  :) id prob do like yesterday 45 mins then BT similar see if it suits her with longer night shorter day?x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 23, 2018, 08:01:15 am
But yesterday she was awake mega early and today she only woke around 6:45?? Sorry it’s like 20 questions x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 23, 2018, 11:39:35 am
She may have been catching up, bit trial and error, so maybe same nap length and BT little later than yesterday?
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 23, 2018, 14:01:46 pm
That’s what I was thinking too 👍🏻
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 23, 2018, 15:28:59 pm
Fingers crossed x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 23, 2018, 18:56:15 pm
She seemed wide awake so was gonna go fornusual bedtime after night garden. Then after a story with daddy she looked wasted so I quickly jumped to iplayer and stuck night garden in a bit earlier  ;D then in true toddler fashion she lit up like the Fourth of July in the bath with no encouragement. We had renditions of every song she knows and then practice swimming 🤦‍♀️
I held my breath and put her to bed just after 7 and she was asleep by about 20 past.
It must be a phase cos when we went away in March to Disneyland Paris, we had no ot issues at all and I was able to shift her bedtime later and earlier without a hitch. We even managed the daylight saving the weekend after we got back, with no problems. It’s these ew that rear their ugly head and mess everything up. It’s hard too as she rarely makes a noise when she wakes and I only know she’s woken early if I happen to be awake myself and check the monitor  ::)
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 23, 2018, 19:08:26 pm
Ooh ha ha it’s kinda funny when they start the singing or delaying tactics. Hope she sleeps well for you, hopefully you’ll just stay asleep and whatever time she wakes she will just chill x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 24, 2018, 06:33:45 am
Oh my word, she slept until 7:20!! Something tells me this could be a no nap day cos no way she’ll be tired when they nap at school!!
Usually I’d have woken her by 7 but as we're experimenting I left her in the hope she’s learning to consolidate the night sleep  ???
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 24, 2018, 06:56:11 am
That’s amazing  :)

If she doesn’t nap I’d prob do BT 6.45/7pm Ish x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 24, 2018, 17:21:41 pm
Well she did blinking nap 🤦‍♀️  Had 45 mins so I’m doing our old bedtime of around 7:15-7:30.
I’ve binned the gro blind today too, she does have black out curtains and blinds tho. Got sick of the black hole of Calcutta  :o
Am I asking for trouble? Lol
I figure it’s all over the place anyway at the min and the gro blind can’t stay up forever.
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 24, 2018, 19:32:16 pm
She was asleep by 7:30 👍🏻
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 24, 2018, 20:24:49 pm
I’m so happy for you, maybe it was a developmental phase that’s passing.
Lol sure you’ll be fine with getting rid of black out x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 25, 2018, 08:44:19 am
Who knows hey, she must have been awake early this morning tho as she was wide awake at 6:15 when I woke up. It will all go wrong today as she goes to my mums and she mucks everything up!!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 25, 2018, 11:45:31 am
Hope grandma listens to what you want her to do do  ;)
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 25, 2018, 13:14:05 pm
She does sometimes, through gritted teeth tho  ::)
I always hold my breath on a Wednesday after work!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 25, 2018, 18:28:07 pm
Hope it went ok in the end x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 25, 2018, 18:40:36 pm
Nope!! She allowed her a longer nap and now she is currently messing around refusing to sleep!!! I give up!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 25, 2018, 19:18:11 pm
Finally gave in at 8!!
Lord knows what time she will be up in the morning as a result!
Shall I just continue with the 45 mins do you think?
I also have a possible dilemma on Sunday. It’s mother in laws birthday and there is a family lunch at 1pm....usual nap time. Shall we just say blow it and go and hope for the best?!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 25, 2018, 19:35:53 pm
Ah that sucks but I guess at least it prob clarifies it for you  ::)

I’d prob stick to what’s been working.

Yes try not to worry about the nap I’d either go for a walk or drive earlier to see if you can get a nap in say 12.15-12.45 or if meal finishes day 2ish pop for quick walk after and allow 30 mins and normal BT.x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 25, 2018, 19:43:32 pm
Was thinking of offering her an early lunch/snack about 11:30 ish and then seeing if she’ll nod off in the car on the way.
I guess if we have a nnd we can just do super early bedtime!

The issue I have most weeks is mums Wednesdays  :-\ it’s always been the things that messes everything up  ::)
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 25, 2018, 20:00:23 pm
Yes I’d do exactly the same early lunch snack etc and hope she nods off!

Can you be a little more forceful with your mum?x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 25, 2018, 20:32:40 pm
I try really hard but she takes offence really easily and we fall out  :'(
I am having cognitive behavioural therapy at the minute for my anxiety and the focus is always my mum!!
She will get a proper strop on like a child. Last time I had to ‘talk’ to her about my LG’s routine, she had a strop and told me she’d just lie about her nap in future 😡
What she fails to realise is that aside from escalating my anxiety, so making me unwell, she ends up upsetting her granddaughter as her sleep gets messed up and she gets grumpy. My mum has never acknowledged my mental health, my dad was bi polar and she would never allow anyone to mention it, she even struggles now and he passed away over 10 years ago.
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 26, 2018, 05:37:32 am
Told you it ends badly. Awake at 6:15! Back to early bedtime tonight I think!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 26, 2018, 05:58:51 am
Oh Hun sounds hard mental health doesn’t need to be hidden away by her. I guess if she is having your LO and she wont do as you ask on those days accept the longer nap and later BT and look at the sleep over 24 hrs, so if she naps for 1.5 hours but only has 10.5 hour night it’s not too bad over 24 hours if that makes sense.
 :-*
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 26, 2018, 06:24:43 am
I do try and look at it like that but for some reason it’s like an ot sleep as she’s so restless settling and then lots of tossing and turning waking this morning and terrible mood 😔
She’s at nursery today so they’ll do the 45 min nap and I’ll stick her in bed early.
The other thing I haven’t mentioned is she’s eating loads at the minute. Do you think that’s part of all this? She’s never been a massive eater x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 26, 2018, 11:57:44 am
It could all be growth spurt too x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 26, 2018, 18:13:01 pm
I thought that although with her previous growth spurts she’s always slept better 🤦‍♀️

She was woken accidentally at Nursery today after 30 mins so was very tired and grumpy tonight. She was not impressed about bedtime at all, we had shouting and smacking, her smacking us 🙈, sobbing etc
She was down and out by 7!
Hubby of course doesn’t get it and thinks I’m a nutter by moving bedtime earlier. I tried to explain the whole ot thing and he just looks at me like it’s all me and my anxiety!! 😡
I give up
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 26, 2018, 18:15:32 pm
Oh dear, surely if you get a good night and wake up he will see it’s better!?
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 26, 2018, 19:05:13 pm
Fingers crossed 🤞🤦‍♀️
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 27, 2018, 18:31:07 pm
I completely give up and to add insult to injury I was hit by a motorbike in my car in the way to work today  :'(
Today she woke before 6 again, I saw her so bit the bullet and went in to see if I could re settle her. Her pull up was wet and she felt cold so I took it off, pulled her in with us and managed to re settle for another 45 mins or so. She’s had 45 mins at Nursery and is currently resisting bedtime big time. We’ve had several delaying tactics from supper to toilet!!
I genuinely don’t know if she’s ot or ut and after my day today I don’t think I’ve any more tears left to cry 😢
Sorry for offloading yet again, bad day. At least the lad in the bike is ok and it was his fault not mine, he went through a red light.
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 27, 2018, 22:28:48 pm
Oh hun your just having a rough time. I know it’s hard but it will be ok if her sleep is off she won’t suffer any bad illness from it she will just be grumpy and I know it’s hard to deal with but you can get through it!

The 1-0 is a mixture of OT/UT and trying to figure it out! Some times it’s hard to figure out which one it is x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on April 28, 2018, 05:40:17 am
The problem is I know this but it’s my anxiety that takes over 😔😢
Some days I can just get on with it and others I really struggle.
Having a motorcycle go over my car didn’t help 😳
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Post by: Haribo2012 on April 29, 2018, 07:46:16 am
I’m sure it didn’t help!x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 01, 2018, 16:48:36 pm
She’s decided to go no nap at Nursery today. They tried but she wasn’t having any of it 😳. She’s very grumpy so fingers crossed an early bedtime works. At least she wasn’t up at 5:30!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 01, 2018, 17:04:54 pm
And my monitor is broken 😳. Anxiety overload!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 01, 2018, 18:32:05 pm
Ah it’s so scary when they just decide no more naps...my DS2 hasn’t napped for last 2 days at Nursery the joys, BT was 6.45 really could’ve done with being earlier but just didn’t get there with Work, food etc.

I’m sure you will hear if she needs you Hun x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 01, 2018, 19:12:33 pm
We’re the same, bt was down for 6:35 ish, asleep by 6:45. Part of me wishes the naps would just be done with but I know I have to ride the nap dropping roller coaster first 🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 01, 2018, 20:45:07 pm
With DS1 I worried for ages, DS2 I just go with him more and on the days I can control I force a nap but driving or buggy walk but otherwise EBT.  I hope you get a good long night x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 01, 2018, 21:05:08 pm
Me too, night night x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 02, 2018, 06:08:59 am
Think we got about 11 hours maybe??!!
She was awake when I checked her at 6:15 but not sure how long she’d been awake. She seems her normal self this morning. She can be hideously grumpy if I think she’s had a good night so who the heck knows 🤦‍♀️🙄
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 02, 2018, 06:49:19 am
I’d take that as a good night. Is it the day with your mum today?
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 02, 2018, 07:39:26 am
Lol well remembered 🤦‍♀️
I’ve asked her to offer nap as normal. Of course she had to argue with me 🙄
I said no nap after 3!!
She said last week she said she didn’t want to sleep. I said she will say that she’s a toddler 🙈but you need to offer anyway and if she chooses not to sleep she can have ‘rest’ time anyway.
Blummin mother!!
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 02, 2018, 07:54:17 am
I think cos she’s always been quite a good sleeper I just worry she won’t get what she needs 🙄
I know their sleep needs do change at times, it’s just been a long time since we did a nap drop. She dropped to one nap around 14 months and has been pretty consistent until now. Leads you into a false sense of security 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 02, 2018, 12:26:51 pm
Well I hope she has a good day! Yep they like to mix it up when you don’t expect it....I thought we had another good 6 months of naps left but noooooo x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 02, 2018, 15:09:31 pm
Zoe, I’d like to say a massive thanks to you. I’ve been having cbt sessions for my anxiety and think your kind words and support have been of more benefit. Sometimes you just need another mum to say, ‘it’s ok, your child won’t come to any long term harm from their sleep being a bit messed up for a bit’. Deep down I know this is true and just needed someone to tell me it was. So thank you from the bottom of my heart xx
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 02, 2018, 17:38:03 pm
Shock horror no sleep at nannas, but like I said she probably didn’t overly encourage her. She did say she had an hour quiet laying down ??
She was upset tonight and we managed to do a swift wind down for 30 mins cos nanna doesn’t get that concept either. We got her into bed at 6:30 and she settled straight away.
Not sure we can maintain the early nights tho as we are away in our caravan this weekend so we may have to try and get a car nap in if she won’t settle anywhere else 🙄
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 02, 2018, 18:05:38 pm
Zoe, I’d like to say a massive thanks to you. I’ve been having cbt sessions for my anxiety and think your kind words and support have been of more benefit. Sometimes you just need another mum to say, ‘it’s ok, your child won’t come to any long term harm from their sleep being a bit messed up for a bit’. Deep down I know this is true and just needed someone to tell me it was. So thank you from the bottom of my heart xx
Awhh sweetie you’re welcome, sometimes it’s just nice to know you’re not alone and a little chat works wonders. We’re always here to help 😘
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 02, 2018, 18:07:49 pm
At least you know she can cope with no nap and early bedtimes work, it won’t be forever as she will get used to no day sleep and then you can just shift BT a bit later....but defo the odd 20 min car nap here and there will help you get a bit later BT.

If your on hols just enjoy it xx
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 02, 2018, 19:16:23 pm
Thanks Hun, will try although we are in the caravan so fingers crossed she sleeps ok otherwise we’re all awake in a confined space 😂😂
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 03, 2018, 05:06:45 am
Ok if she doesn’t nap today then we’re gonna have to push bt back cos wu getting earlier. Awake at 6!! No way we can do 6 bt. God I hate this!!!
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 03, 2018, 05:59:43 am
We had EW too, must be something in the air! So if I were you I’d get a car/buggy nap in about 2pm and then you can get later BT x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 03, 2018, 06:20:53 am
No can do, Nursery today 🙄 gonna have to ride the storm. She’s in a good mood tho and has had her first dry night in ages!! I watched her on the monitor get up and use her potty, not done that in about a month. We’d been pretty much dry before that. Think daddy coming home upset the apple cart a bit maybe, or possibly the whole sleep changing stuff has something to do with it. Who knows 😳
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 03, 2018, 08:17:39 am
Oh sorry thought you were with her today! Mostly they surprise you and she’ll have a great day x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 03, 2018, 17:58:44 pm
I think she’s officially binned the nap. Nursery said she was happy to lie with the others tho so at least she’s resting. She seemed happy enough and not grumpy on the journey home. Her key worker said she had a bit of a grump after teatime so around 5 ish but she snapped out of it.
I’ve pushed her bt back ever so slightly and she was asleep by 6:50.
We are off away in our caravan tomorrow so she may grab a snooze in the car if she feels the need on the way there.
I asked her if she was done with naps now and she said yes 😂🤦‍♀️🙈
She also told my mum yesterday that she was a big girl now and didn’t need to nap any more 🤦‍♀️😂
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 03, 2018, 19:07:40 pm
Awhh she sounds so cute! Oh well at least you can be more flexible with your day of naps aren’t a necessity!x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 03, 2018, 19:22:49 pm
She is a monkey 🐵 and definitely knows her own mind. Just need to survive the transition and we’ll be ok 👌🤞
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 03, 2018, 20:14:55 pm
You will do, best way is to try and be a little flexible x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 04, 2018, 06:33:32 am
She managed another 11.5 ish night again. The test will be to see if she nods off in the car this morning on our way. It’s a 2 hours car journey so will be interesting. Normally when she car naps I’ll give her the muslin cloth as this is her sleep comfort. Even if she looks wide awake, once she has that and is reclined in her seat, she nods off pretty quickly. I think I’ll just see what she does without which may indicate she’s tired enough for a nap. This will be my first day with her since she ditched her nap, wish me luck x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 04, 2018, 09:02:00 am
Good luck and hope you have a lovely day x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 04, 2018, 11:07:37 am
She fought but couldn’t stop herself nodding off. Had a mini 30 min snooze in the car before lunch. Let’s hope it’s enough to keep her happy 🤞
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 04, 2018, 16:13:59 pm
That’s good, hope it goes well x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 04, 2018, 19:20:24 pm
She’s stayed in a good mood all day and has ran her little legs off 😂
Flat out for 7:15 despite the campsite being full of noisy little .... 😡
Some parents have absolutely no control over their kids letting them run round people’s caravans screaming and shouting. Then the parents yell out of the caravan windows so that explains everything 🙄🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 04, 2018, 21:11:56 pm
Lol oh well try anc block them out, but sounds like a lovely day xx
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 05, 2018, 06:46:26 am
Maybe the nap didn’t help. Was awake at 5:30!! I brought her in with me and resettled til around 7 but wasn’t great sleep I don’t think. Gonna push no nap today and see if she rests better!! I’m pooped 😔. Daddy sleeps through everything off course 😡
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 05, 2018, 06:47:10 am
You would think she would be absolutely knackered as she never stopped all day!!
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 05, 2018, 15:43:02 pm
Good chance to try no nap, all the activity hopefully will wear her out x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 05, 2018, 17:37:31 pm
I couldn’t keep her awake past 6:30 😳. Hope this doesn’t mean a 5:30 wake up again 🙄 if so I’m gonna have to let her nap I think 🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 05, 2018, 18:26:50 pm
See how the night goes and decide tomo on how you feel xx
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 06, 2018, 07:43:52 am
We got a 6:20 wu 👍🏻
Fingers crossed for a good day 🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 06, 2018, 11:13:33 am
Woohoo good going xx
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 06, 2018, 20:39:43 pm
She seemed much happier today and kept going all day. I decided agains reading to her as this sent her to sleep and allowed her to watch bedtime hour on CBeebies instead. She was gog eyed towards the end and was out cold about five to seven. I’m pleased at how well she seems to be coping in the day. Hopefully she will learn to stretch her night out a little more so we’re not having over 12 hour days 😳
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 06, 2018, 21:27:55 pm
Awhh lovely update, let’s hope it keeps going in the right direction x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 07, 2018, 06:17:39 am
Must be all the holiday fun. She’s still asleep at 7:15! 👍🏻
I’m desperate for the toilet but don’t want to disturb her, the bathroom in the caravan is right next to her bed  🤦‍♀️😂
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 07, 2018, 16:22:49 pm
Everyone is more relaxed on hols, that’s a great night x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 07, 2018, 19:45:33 pm
You definitely are different on hols. She’s been a bit harder to keep jolly today, what with a car journey home!!
Then we upset her cos she had to leave her favourite cousins house to come home for tea. The short car journey from their house at just before 5 was tricky cos she was noticeably tired 🤦‍♀️
We perked her up a bit in the garden to get through tea time. I managed to get her to 7 ish again but definitely a bit more restless tonight, although could be cos she’s in her own bed again. Who knows. How long do you think it takes them to get used to no naps and out of the danger nap zones? 😂🙈😳
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 08, 2018, 15:25:57 pm
It can take a while, and the OT can build up. Trial and error really x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 08, 2018, 18:00:07 pm
I think she’s a touch ot tonight 🤦‍♀️ 
Was tired after Nursery but she woke at 6 for the toilet. I managed to re settle her after 30 mins or so until 7:30. She had a rest at Nursery, no nap, and said she was tired at bathtime. She’s just kicked off at bedtime making demands and getting upset. Currently rather fidgety so defo ot.
Nannas day tomorrow 😳🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 08, 2018, 18:47:54 pm
Sounds like OT it’s inevitable really. Hope nanna does as she’s told  :o
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 09, 2018, 05:56:31 am
Defo ot, was awake at 6:15. Would you keep bt the same or shift it a bit earlier?
Saying that, who knows what nanna will get up to today 😳🤦‍♀️🙄
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 09, 2018, 06:26:33 am
On 6.15 WU id do BT at 6.15 providing no nap if you think OT, if she has a nap depending on length push it a bit later!?!

We had 5.20am this morning and he won’t nap at Nursery today so getting home from work and dinner time is going to be fun lol x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 09, 2018, 11:46:38 am
Same here hun, no way she’ll get a 6:15 bedtime tonight. Will see how it goes when I get to mums!!
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 09, 2018, 17:56:40 pm
So she was tired enough to nod off at nannas whilst having rest time on the sofa. Mum said she only let her sleep for 30 mins. Not sure how true that is as she was rather lively!! Gone for normal bedtime, let’s see what happens. She said she’s tired but that doesn’t mean anything these days 🤦‍♀️🙄
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 09, 2018, 18:25:18 pm
My gut is telling me to bum the nap completely. She has been messing around in bed for the last 35 mins after saying she was tired!! Either Mum lied to me about how long she left her to sleep or she really doesn’t need the naps anymore!!
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 09, 2018, 18:41:19 pm
Still wide awake almost an hour after going down!! 🙈
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 09, 2018, 20:57:35 pm
Oooh defo sounds like she’s doing better without the nap! Hope she went off in the end x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 10, 2018, 05:26:49 am
Eventually at about 7:50. Woke this morning at 6:20!! Very restless night. I don’t think she’s tired enough when she naps 🤦‍♀️🙄
No more naps!!  Wish me luck x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 10, 2018, 06:04:02 am
Not a bad night then with a nap in there! Good luck you’ll be fine xx
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 10, 2018, 06:16:41 am
Still same total sleep in 24 hrs but I prefer her to have a slightly earlier bedtime as she’s less restless. We even started getting dry nights again with no nap 🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 10, 2018, 12:27:05 pm
Excellent hope it carries on x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 10, 2018, 17:52:55 pm
Had to laugh. When I dropped at Nursery this morning they were intrigued to know how my mum had gotten her to sleep 🤦‍♀️😂
She’s had no nap today at Nursery and they said she’s been happy playing all day. Down and asleep 6:45. Didn’t want to push to 7 today after yesterday. Will see how she goes tonight 🤞x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 10, 2018, 18:05:06 pm
Maybe grandma has magic sleep powers lol!x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 10, 2018, 18:19:01 pm
Who the heck knows what happens at mums house 🤦‍♀️😂🙈
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 11, 2018, 18:08:22 pm
Wow evening time is so grumpy 🤦‍♀️
She copes but then cos she’s so tired she gets cross cos she doesn’t want to give in and go to bed 🙄😂🙈. We’ve had thrown comfort blanket and everything tonight and mega stalling on the toilet 🤦‍♀️
I’ve had a bag day at work so just need some me time to reflect 🤦‍♀️
At least it was a no nap day so she was out cold by 7 👍🏻
How are your no nappers doing? X
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 05:32:41 am
I’m failing here big time and my anxiety is through the roof 😔
Up before 6 😔🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 12, 2018, 05:38:17 am
Awhh Hun try not too worry about the sleep she will be ok, I know my saying that doesn’t help but it will get better.

Just let her have 20 min CN in the car if she is showing OT signs.

Mine has bad cough so woke at 5.30 last 2 days x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 05:40:57 am
Problem is Hun, I don’t know what her ot signs are these days 😔
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 06:07:12 am
Didn’t help that oh was awake in the middle of the night messing on his phone lighting the bedroom up, waking me up and when he did go back to sleep he was snoring and now he’s refusing to wake up!!! Ffs 😡🤦‍♀️😔
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Haribo2012 on May 12, 2018, 09:13:39 am
OT for us is hyper or very tearful with lots of stroppy requests. See how she goes if she’s happy just go for 6.30 BT?x

Ooooh and what is with blokes and they’re phones!?🙄
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 10:31:38 am
She’s a girl, she’s always stroppy 🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 12:39:16 pm
She hasn’t wanted a nap so we’ve just done quiet time with some books in the garden after lunch. She’s now gardening with her dad 🙈
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 17:29:57 pm
Why do dads always have to rev em up before bedtime? 🤦‍♀️
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 12, 2018, 17:46:40 pm
Ha yep same her wrestling and racing about.x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 12, 2018, 17:51:16 pm
Got her to 6:45. She was falling asleep on the sofa and asked to go to bed so she went. No hysterics so hoping she has a better night 🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 12, 2018, 19:58:02 pm
Awhh bless her hopevits a good one x
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 13, 2018, 06:01:18 am
Another 11 hr. not bringing bt anyvearlier cos no way I’m doing any earlier wu!! I’m goosed 😳
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 13, 2018, 17:03:19 pm
Ooh car journeys are not fun 😳
She had a 15 min nap at lunchtime in the car on the way out. Would’ve slept on but we’d arrived thank god. She’s ran mad this afternoon at the funfair but the car Home was painful. Only 30 mins but no way I was giving in to a car snooze no matter how short, at 4pm!!
Am I mean? She perked up at home and has played well in the garden since and eaten her tea no probs. The next issue is trying to make sure she’s not over revved...daddy. Who is currently pushing her in the swing in the garden!! I’ve said 5 mins then quiet time with some books before bath and hopefully sleep around 7 🤞
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 13, 2018, 18:07:08 pm
It’s so hard to know how far you can push things out isn’t it? Without sending them the other way that is 🙄
Managed to get her happily, but not giddily, to bedtime at 7, asleep by 5 past 🤞🤞🤞🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 13, 2018, 18:25:05 pm
I remember trying anything to keep DS1 awake on journeys as it affected his nights badly so I totally get where you’re coming from. DS2 there is no keeping awake lol so I just let him have a short sleep of we’re out and it doesn’t massively affect him.

Fingers crossed xx
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 13, 2018, 18:41:50 pm
She only had about 15 mins around midday and we stopped her snoozing later and she’s gone to bed fine. I’ve never been here before so not sure whether a later mini snooze would be bad but didn’t want to chance it 😳🙈
It’s mad cos I bet if I put her to bed after lunch at home she’d nap. She’s always gotten into bed no problem and napped. It was at Nursery when she started refusing and then at mums so we just followed on from that, especially as we were away for the weekend and busy. She seemed to cope better when we were away cos at home she’d be more inclined to get bored and want to sleep x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 13, 2018, 18:58:10 pm
It is hard to know what’s the best but I think you’re on the right track. I think mine could do with a nap but short of driving every day there’s not a lot I can do so I’ll just wing it each day lol x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 14, 2018, 05:08:14 am
I can tell by the way she’s waking up in the morning that she really wants to still be asleep, lots of fidgeting around and burying her face in the pillow but no matter how much I try and tweak things, she’s not stretching it out and I feel like the days are getting harder. I almost want to reintroduce the nap but I know the consequences of that are not good 😔
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 14, 2018, 06:21:38 am
At least I get a day off tomorrow when I go to work 🤦‍♀️😂
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 14, 2018, 06:56:58 am
Hubby has now allowed her downstairs early and is refusing to acknowledge that he’s at risk of encouraging earlier mornings by doing this. We have always been quite strict about what time we go downstairs. He just dismisses me. Ok for him who sleeps like a log!! Except when he wants to be up himself that is!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 14, 2018, 15:11:06 pm
Sometimes the 20 min nap can be a life saver and not affect the night, so you could try it!?
Oh dear you’ll have to chat about what time and stick to it x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 14, 2018, 18:21:16 pm
He’s a typical bloke something, yet sometimes amazing 🙄
I don’t think they always think about consequences like mums do cos predominantly it’s us mummy’s that pick up the pieces!
I’m quite sensitive at the minute as I’m not the greatest sleeper and when my anxiety increases it gets worse so I’m generally more knackered than usual. Add into the equation a grumpy nap dropping toddler and I’m a bit of a mess. To add fuel to the fire, hubby plays the feeling unloved card and, apologies for tmi but he gets a bit frisky and I’m like, for .... sake, leave me alone 🤦‍♀️😂
Sometimes I just want to escape for some major me time tic 😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 14, 2018, 21:07:04 pm
Oooh ha ha these frisky men....timing off!

Get yourself booked in for massage or hair or something you like or even just to a cake shop for cuppa and cake x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 15, 2018, 06:37:49 am
I’ve got a spa weekend booked in with my friends in June and I can’t wait!!
I’ve decided that the video monitor is my enemy and is fuelling my anxiety, I was becoming fixated on what time she opened her eyes so I was waking earlier and earlier with anxiety.
Last night I used my hypnosis sleep app and when I woke at stupid o’clock, instead of looking at her I put my app back on and it seemed to settle me again. I woke less anxious at 6:30, then I checked her. She was awake but I think she’s getting on average 11 hours overnight and apart from the off moments in the day, she seems to be coping ok.
The problem we have, which I may have already said, as our conversation is so long now (thanks again x), is that she can be awake but quiet in her bed and we wouldn’t know. What did parents do before cameras?!!! 😳 they were probably less anxious!!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 15, 2018, 06:42:01 am
I also bit the bullet and ditched the gro blind!! I’ve swapped the blind slats for blackout ones but not as dark as with the gro blind but I figured she was awake in the pitch dark so at least now we can ventilate the room and also open her blinds in a morning. The sun comes up at the back of the house so into our room not hers. On the occasions she has been in with us the light has never bothered her if she’s tired enough and again, I think the blind was part of my anxiety which I need to manage 🤦‍♀️
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 15, 2018, 15:30:09 pm
I never did have a video monitor as felt I’d be fixated on it, we have a standard one so I just go with if he’s quiet he’s asleep or resting. Maybe it’s time to swap the monitor? Or once your in bed turn it off if you can hear her!?

Very jealous of your spa weekend x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 15, 2018, 16:13:59 pm
I know I need to ditch it really. Not good for me 🤦‍♀️
Title: Re: Should I allow a longer nap for ew
Post by: Conniesmummy on May 15, 2018, 18:17:26 pm
She came home from Nursery in a really good mood tonight. I had time to chat with her key worker before we had to come home so I asked her how things were without the nap. She told me they don’t encourage her to lie with the others anymore, after the nightmare nap at nannas last week 😳
After last NCL when the others go to lie down, the no nappers go to the reading corner whilst the staff clear up and then they just carry on their day. She told me my littly knows the routine now and takes herself off to read then will play happily all day. She’s had the best bath/bedtime so far. Fingers crossed she’s starting to cope with it now x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 15, 2018, 18:54:56 pm
Awhh nice update hope the nights good too x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 15, 2018, 19:47:28 pm
Thanks x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 16, 2018, 18:12:35 pm
Zoe you will be very proud of me. Last 2 mornings I have stopped myself checking the monitor!! 🙈😳
This morning I even managed to settle back off to sleep after my toilet visit around 5 and slept in!!
Normally I would not go for a wee then incase I disturb her but I did and didn’t check on her either, just got back into bed and went back to sleep. It wasn’t easy and took a bit, but I obviously did as I then woke a little after 7!!
Littly was in a good mood so I presume well rested.

We’ve also had an uneventful nanna day today and only a minor issue getting out of the bath because she didn’t want to, but she’s settled straight to sleep x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 16, 2018, 19:55:35 pm
Awhh well done you, so happy for you. I guess you know she’s ok in there so you can go back and relax 😊x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 16, 2018, 20:30:47 pm
Deep down I know the reality is I can’t really do anything to make her sleep longer so what’s the point in me losing sleep if she’s quiet and in her room? 🤦‍♀️

Knowing this is the easy part, trusting what I know is the hard part that fuels my anxiety. It takes a great deal of mental control to stop looking on the monitor but I know I can do it. I just have wobbles sometimes. I guess maybe this is something I have to live with now but I can manage it better these days. One time I was medicated but I don’t want to go back there so I make myself deal with it x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 17, 2018, 06:00:02 am
I honestly would replace the monitor or switch it off at night if she’s near enough. I’d hear both my kids I’d they were upset at night.

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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 17, 2018, 18:07:38 pm
I’m working on it 😉
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 17, 2018, 18:59:11 pm
When you’re ready x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 19, 2018, 19:54:45 pm
😉😘x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 20, 2018, 06:29:28 am
We seem to be managing on about 11 hrs sleep overnight 7-6 ish. I’m not checking the monitor so not entirely sure. Still no nap 😳😂👍🏻🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 20, 2018, 11:02:08 am
Sounds like it’s goimg ok, sure the nights will lengthen x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 20, 2018, 17:09:14 pm
Hope so 😂
We managed a day out today without a car nap 👍🏻
Sadly we seem to have a bit of an upset tummy, had a poop in the pants after tea 🙈🤢
Hope she’s ok 🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 20, 2018, 20:26:28 pm
Ooh hope it’s just a short lived bug x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 20, 2018, 21:24:49 pm
Me too. We go on holiday on Friday 😳🤞
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 21, 2018, 15:20:42 pm
Always the way, sure it will pass soon x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 21, 2018, 15:34:22 pm
Think we did a longer night last night 👍🏻
We were at the seaside yesterday so just have been the sea air 😂
Been again today with her cousin, lots of running and no car naps 🤞
I wish I could have a robot version of him to take with us in the car 😂😂😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 23, 2018, 17:29:19 pm
Hope nights are still good...we’re on 5.30 wake ups grrrr x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 24, 2018, 19:04:35 pm
Oh no 🤦‍♀️
I don’t know what time our wake ups are as we no longer have a camera 😳🙈
Mum said she seemed tired at lunchtime yesterday but then perked up. Still going down for 7pm.
We’re off in the caravan for the bank holiday weekend so fingers crossed it’s as good as last time we went x
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 25, 2018, 05:36:11 am
Yahey I think for your benefit you did well get rid of camera 👍🏻😉

Fingers crossed for lovely weekend x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 27, 2018, 06:22:32 am
Had our routine bad first night, in bed with us from around 2 🙄 pull up leaked everywhere which didn’t help! Not great in the caravan!! Note to self, spare sheets needed!! Mad dash in the laundry!!
Then we knackered her out at a kids festival all day. Got her ready for bed before we left, spark out in the car by 7pm. A slightly upset transfer into bed, but settled with a snuggle, still asleep at almost 7:30! 👍🏻
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 28, 2018, 06:13:58 am
Oh dear joys of being away and not having clean bedding to hand.

Sounds like your having a good time wet bed excluded! Hope last night was better x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 31, 2018, 18:20:24 pm
Nursery allowed 30 min nap and currently having world war 3 at bedtime 🤦‍♀️
Defo no nap needed anymore!’
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 31, 2018, 18:35:38 pm
Why is it 30 mins can rob an hour off night sleep??!! Doesn’t make sense 😡
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 31, 2018, 18:39:30 pm
We had such a good thing going on. Bed at 7 with a good 11 hours or so overnight. Happy days! One 30 min nap, mayhem!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on May 31, 2018, 19:10:36 pm
Make that almost an hour and a half! Longest bedtime ever and still going!! I’ll be in bed before her at this rate!!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on May 31, 2018, 21:04:25 pm
Oh no sorry been out and about tonight. Hope she settles soon x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 01, 2018, 11:59:11 am
Was 8:30, so lost 1.5 hrs!! Not happy this morning 🤦‍♀️
She’s gone to Nursery with strict instructions, no nap!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 01, 2018, 19:21:38 pm
Nursery managed to keep her awake, surprisorshe had a good day and was in good spirits right up until bathtime when she lot the plot bless her. Out cold by 7, normal time at the min. This blinking heat doesn’t help. Need a good storm to cool things down a bit.
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 01, 2018, 21:47:38 pm
I hate hot muggy nights, where are you?
Hopefully no nap will be good night x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 02, 2018, 07:39:21 am
Near preston Lancashire. Not used to tropical weather 🤦‍♀️😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 02, 2018, 08:53:40 am
Ha ha I’m uk too so defo with u x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 03, 2018, 08:37:43 am
Wow, that was the day from hell. Never been so glad to get to bt!!
We had a very grumpy child all day who was almost asleep at the tea table!! Refusing food and generally being rude!
Out cold at 7pm thank goodness. Up around 6:30 this morning and seems brighter so far but still early.
That 30 min nap has a lot to answer for!!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 03, 2018, 18:11:16 pm
Far happier child today. No mega meltdowns. We’re such grumpy people when we’re tired 🤦‍♀️😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 03, 2018, 18:14:07 pm
The heat doesn’t help either with making them tired 😬x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 04, 2018, 18:13:03 pm
Omg we had a mega sleep in this morning!! 7:30!! Never been heard of ever.
I thought she’d be tricky going to bed tonight but she’s had a mega busy day so was falling asleep before bathtime, swift up for bath and out cold at 7!! Something tells me I may pay for this good fortune somewhere down the line 🤦‍♀️😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 04, 2018, 18:22:51 pm
Fantastic take it while you can lol x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 04, 2018, 18:59:52 pm
I will don’t worry 😂
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 23, 2018, 18:14:05 pm
What did I say about my good fortune running out??!!
Ewu’s are back 🤦‍♀️🙈😳and she’s one grumpy child!!
They have the nerve to complain that they’re tired 😡
She fell asleep in the car five mins from home before lunchtime today so I allowed her 10 mins then woke her 🤦‍♀️
It’s that horrible whiney whinging voice, it’s enough to send you loopy!!
I think I’ve got a mega threenager on my hands!
Zoe, do you reckon we’re having our around birthday wobbles? She 3 in August x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 24, 2018, 06:15:48 am
Oh and a 2:15 upset night wake last night. Awake for over an hour!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 24, 2018, 09:53:32 am
Oh dear they just like to keep us on our toes don’t they!! Has she got big back molars? Could be birthday shenanigans we always got them early with DS1 x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 24, 2018, 15:25:46 pm
All teeth accounted for darn it, can’t blame them anymore. I’m thinking maybe a little or build up maybe. She was tired yesterday. Seems in a better mood today so fingers crossed for a better night tonight. Not sure if she got too hot at one point as her heater temp had been upped, little fingers fiddling!! We’ve dropped it now so hopefully that won’t play a part 🙄
She’s just keeping us on our toes before our holiday. 6 hour car journey on Friday 😳. Doubt we’ll manage to avoid any kind of naps 🤦‍♀️
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 24, 2018, 16:45:04 pm
Just think 6 hours awake in the car could be horrific lol I’d take a nap and late bedtime x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 24, 2018, 18:05:31 pm
😂😂😂 glad its not just mine that’s horrific on a car journey 🤦‍♀️
I’m happy with a car nap too, especially as we are meeting relatives camping with us so littly will be wired anyway so at least we’d not be overtired and going well past it.

She’s had a much happier day today so fingers crossed for a better night. I think we’ve had a build up of ot all week. She’s been waking early every day we’re normally she’d been having at least one or two lie ins to catch up. She slept in til 7:45 this morning so at least made up for her night wake up.
Threenager and nap drop combined, happy days 😳🤦‍♀️🙈
She’s definitely playing power games though. She can be happily eating her meal then decide she wants to put herself in the naughty corner! Then has a benny when I say she isn’t being naughty. Talk about button pushing eh? 😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 25, 2018, 15:40:08 pm
They just love sone control lol! Hoping the later wake up reset her for you x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 25, 2018, 15:50:09 pm
It really didn’t 😔
She was awake at the crack of dawn again today. Had the biggest strop with me at swimming, rude and generally horrid. She had three strikes and then we got out. We’d only been in 10 mins!!! She then passed out in the car so I have in and let her sleep 30 mins. She did wake herself then so who knows she may be ok tonight!!
To be honest I’m passed caring today cos I was near to tears after the pool fiasco. She had already had a strop at breakfast and was sent to bed as she very cockily said she’d go to the naughty corner herself!!
She’s just waking up early and messing on her bed with toys. I already confiscated some last week and she’s been told that she is having none tonight!
I know it’s all part of her pushing the boundaries but god it’s unpleasant. I love her immensely but she isn’t very nice to be around right now.
I’m dreading our holiday cos at least at home I get some respite at work!!!
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 25, 2018, 17:59:06 pm
And here we go, payback for nap!!! Messing about in bed!!!
I give up!!!
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 25, 2018, 19:11:30 pm
Awhh sweetie don’t worry too much I know it makes your anxiety bad it’s prob all developmental. Maybe instead of naughty corner try reward stickers for good behaviour and sad face stickers for bad behaviour.
I’ve found that often it’s attention when mine is extra hard work, sometimes need a distraction for us both to get out of the bad mood as such x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 25, 2018, 19:33:44 pm
It’s her with the naughty corner. I used it once or twice ages ago when I was pushed to breaking point and was home alone. She never forgets anything!!!
Ye my anxiety does flare up when I’m pushed and I have to hold it together probably more than someone who doesn’t suffer with it. I think that’s why I’m so exhausted 😔😳
I’m sure it is developmental with her as she’s grown up so much recently 🙄
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 25, 2018, 19:39:57 pm
Just keep thinking it’s all a phase, this will pass! Can you get out and have some you tome x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 25, 2018, 19:52:22 pm
That’s all I’ve been saying to myself all day 😳
I can Hun, hopefully tomorrow 🤞providing I get all the holiday stuff sorted ok, I’m having my nails done 👍🏻
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 26, 2018, 15:30:42 pm
Lovely hope the nails and holiday sorting went well x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 26, 2018, 19:46:47 pm
Aw thanks hun.
She seemed to have an ok night and has apparently had a good day at Nursery today. No major issues at bath/bedtime. Although she did say in the car on the way home that she wasn’t friends with mummy or daddy! Not sure where that came from 🤦‍♀️😂
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 26, 2018, 20:26:54 pm
😂😂 they are funny little things x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 27, 2018, 05:34:11 am
Looks like we’re alternating ewu’s 🤦‍♀️
She’s with nanna today too 🙄😔
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 27, 2018, 06:58:36 am
😬😬
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 27, 2018, 07:21:21 am
Defo a phase I think 🙄🤦‍♀️
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 27, 2018, 17:41:27 pm
She was a tad grumpy and I managed to get her in bed for 6:30, she’s out cold so let’s pray for a better night tonight 🤦‍♀️🙄
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Post by: Haribo2012 on June 27, 2018, 18:40:14 pm
The heat exhausts them too! Hope it’s a good night x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 27, 2018, 20:55:16 pm
Bless them, she’s in a vest and pull up with 2 fans on her and still looks hot. I had to wrangle the pjs off her 🤦‍♀️
So hard for us sleeping in this heat too x
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Post by: Conniesmummy on June 28, 2018, 05:30:02 am
Ebt didn’t work 🙄