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SLEEP => Sleeping For Toddlers => Topic started by: Sarah˛ on June 19, 2005, 10:59:54 am
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6 weeks ago, Henry got his 15 month shots, was diagnosed with an ear infection and we went on a mini-vacation. Just before this, he was sleeping through the night more nights than not and had just had an 8 night stretch where he slept through. Since then, he's slept through maybe 4 times.
He's waking on average 1-4 times per night. Sometimes he goes right back to sleep. Other times he's been awake for over 3 hours. It's gotten to the point where if he gets 9 hours of sleep at night, it's a good night. Two mornings he's waked for the day at 3:30am - including this am.
When he wakes he generally stands in his crib and throws out his binky. I always try to just plug him back in and lay him down but it's gotten to the point where when I walk away he cries hysterically - to the point of almost vomiting.
He is working on molars but I've been giving him pain meds before bed and again if necessary in the middle of the night. He's been walking for 5 months now and is running well, too. He is not sick - he's been to the doctor 3 times since this all started trying to figure out a reason and has been diagnosed each time with teething.
I do rock him to sleep at the beginning of the night and again when he wakes but I really don't think that's the problem, although I could very well be wrong. He's always been rocked to sleep and used to sleep through. Why would it change all the sudden? Also, I know there are lots of other babies here who go to sleep on their own and still have frequent night wakings. And I know of several babies who are rocked to sleep and sleep through the night. ??
Also, he is still in our room because we have no where else to put him right now. We are working on that - should be moved within 3 weeks into his own room. But in the meantime, he's in our room so when he stands in his crib he looks right at us and knows we're there and can/should take care of him.
He naps relatively well. I'm afraid to limit his daytime sleep because he's sleeping so poorly at night but maybe I should? With his naps, he is getting on average over 12 hours of sleep per day, which is normal for him.
After all this, I guess my question is why won't he sleep at night???? Does anyone have any recommendations of how I can fix this nightmare?
TIA.
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Sarah, I feel for you! I can't imagine how hard that is on you guys. I personally don't think that the rocking to sleep is a problem. As you know, we rock Tyler to sleep when he lets us, but he almost never does anymore. He hasn't woken at night for ages. And I know from all of your posts that the problem isn't that Henry can't put himself back to sleep, because he can! For whatever reason, he just isn't doing it now, and I wish I knew why. All I can think of is (I know you aren't going to want to hear this!) moving to 1 nap. Maybe?
Also, since he can see you at night, maybe creating some kind of temporary partition so that he can't? I know he's getting his own room soon, but this may help the transition as well. Nothing permanent or fancy, maybe even just stacked up cardboard boxes to block his view of you?
I really really really hope you get a break soon!!!!
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Thanks for the reply, Melissa.
He's been sort of transitioning to one nap on his own - like he transitioned to two from three on his own. Yesterday his am nap was a whopping 15 minutes! His afternoon nap was 3 hours. :shock:
I think I'm going to bite this bullet and transition him to one nap officially. Things can't get much worse and it may actually help.
Question for you - on days like today, when he wakes before 5am, should I still not give him an am nap or should I just make it a short one?
Thanks again - and any other input is so greatly appreciated.
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I don't have any advice for why he's waking, but I'll bet that you being in the room is partly or even mostly why he's not going back to sleep. He knows you're right there and can scream until you come pick him up. Emma ALWAYS sleeps worse when we're traveling and she's in the same room with us. If she wakes up, we have to lay perfectly still and pray she goes back to sleep. This happened last time we were at the inlaws and at about 3 am, we moved her into the computer room so she'd go back to sleep alone. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time....and I'm hoping his own room will help once he's used to it.
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On days like today, when Henry wakes up super early, you might have to play it by ear. Since transitioning to 1 nap, Tyler's AM waketime has been pretty consistent (knock on wood), but he has woken early once or twice. On those days, I was able to put him down for his nap at normal time, since he's gotten used to longer waketimes and wasn't showing any signs that he was tired. If Henry did show tired signs, you could always do the 15 min catnap in the AM and hope for a loooong nap in the PM, or just do 1 nap and move it earlier. HTH!
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Thanks again, Melissa. And thanks to you, too, Stacie.
I've decided he's going into his own room sooner rather than later, in addition to transitioning to one nap. His room should be ready by the weekend - so he may be in there Saturday night. Woo-hoo!
He slept two hours for his am nap today. We'll see how long his pm nap is - I'm going to sleep, too, while he's sleeping!
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45 minutes. Woke screaming. Blah.
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I don't really know what to say - you and I seem to be in the same position alot of the time.
So I know where you're coming from because we have been having pretty much the same kinds of things happening at the moment. (eye teeth)
Khyan has had his molars come thru about 1.5mths ago and yes they were horrible and his sleeping (if you could actually call it that) was all over the place.
He should have shares in the pain meds companies (although it just didn't even make a dent in the pain) and well the whole household was mighty grumpy.
About 1 month into it (it was a good 2mths of probs) I accepted my fate and realised that I wasn't going to sleep again until he was atleast 10.
I just went to bed really early, took a good multi vit/min, drank heaps of water and LOT of caffeine and sugar.
Unfortunately there is truly nothing that I can say to make it better accept that once the teeth came thru he really did go back to what he had been before.
That if you are just consistant with him and in your case rock to sleep works well normally well that's what I would continue to,
Hopefully you are on the home stretch and it won't be much longer before those horrid molars pop thru and things can go back to normal for a while.
Can you see any of the molars yet?
I'm sending you BIG HUGE HUGS through the computer
Kaela xx
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He should have shares in the pain meds companies (although it just didn't even make a dent in the pain) and well the whole household was mighty grumpy.
Michaela, are you sure you aren't talking about MY house? :lol: We've started calling it "Tylernol" and are waiting for the day that Motrin announces that Tyler, their most loyal customer, will be honored with his picture on the box.
Not to hijack, but we're in a rotten place right now too. Tyler's top 2 eyeteeth keep peeking out and receding, and every little stinkin thing causes a knock down drag out tantrum. He is miserable. All he ate today was a big old breakfast and a nibble for dinner. He took a 3 hr nap. Yes, I said 3 hrs...he has NEVER EVER napped that long, and we had to wake him. And the teething has given him runny poopy, which always gives him a raging diaper rash, despite the fact that I change him as soon as humanly possible and let him run around outside naked most of the day (the neighbors must think we're wacko). Sigh.
I'm off to have a beer...anyone wanna join me?? :wink:
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Melissa it's only 10am here ! But don't tempt me :wink: 8)
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He slept better last night. Not through but better. He woke at 9pm for a few minutes. Then he slept for almost 6 hours - the longest stretch of sleep he's had in over a week. He woke at 2:50am for about 30 minutes - 25 of which were in his bed playing with binkies. He didn't do the jack-in-the-box binky tossing thing. :D I let him play until he let me know he needed me, then I picked him up and rocked him back to sleep. He slept until 6:25am!! That's a whole 10 hours of sleep in one night!!! Woo-hoo!! I feel great, he feels better . . .
I didn't give him Motrin before bed but did give him Tylenol. I think the Motrin was upsetting his tummy. We also bought a new humidifier just like the old one we threw out last week - he smiled and waived when he saw it. Apparently he missed the humidifier! :roll: But something worked!
I can't see his molars because he won't let me look but I can feel the bottom two just under the surface. He cries when I touch them so I know they're sore. Poor babies with their teeth!!!
Here's hoping all these teeth come in soon!
And Melissa - Hyjack away! I hyjacked your post about "wired kid". :D
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Oh Sarah I am soooo glad that you both had a better night last night!!!! I honestly think that this is just a weird age for them now, and who knows what is going on as it seems that the development, teething, milestones, etc, are just ongoing. It is really hard to try and pin point, and I think all you can do is remain as consistent as possible, remember that this will not last forever, and that tomorrow is another day. Case in point, yesterday Myles woke at 5am crying and would not go back to sleep, and I have no idea why. But then today he woke at 6:30am. I didn't do anything differently, so like I said who knows!
Hopefully Henry is starting to turn the corner, and I really feel that once he is in his own room it will make a world of difference.
And also just remember that you are a GREAT MOTHER!!!!
Carrie
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i haven't read the other replies....
but here's our situation.
andrew did this at 14 months. had to do controlled crying to get over it.
caroline is now doing this at 21 months and haven't found a solution yet.
good luck, i know it's hard!
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I can help you sort this out.. but I will tell you this..
I will not advocate controlled crying. As this is a Babywhisperer Forum, and Tracy fiercely advocated against it, I have to do the same. As Tracy always said, there is always a BW approach.
That said, I feel you hit it on the nail about the rocking to sleep and sleeping in your room (which I understand isn't an option to change right now). He's becoming an older toddler now, so habits are more ingrained.. but are still changeable :wink: . It does take a few weeks, which will contains highs and lows, progression and regression.. but in the long run, you will have a well-rested family. And ultimately it depends on your comfort level, how much you desire the situation to change, and your commitment level.
So, if you're up for it, give me a pm and we can set everything up.
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Thanks for the input.
I can't/won't do controlled crying. That is just not an option for me/us.
I'm not ready to stop rocking him to sleep yet. I honestly don't believe that is the problem, but, as I said before, I could be wrong. It will change at some point but I'm not ready yet.
Jane - Do you think rocking him to sleep is the problem? I'll be glad to take any advice/assistance when I'm ready to stop. Thanks!
He'll be in his own room within three weeks. I'm actually afraid to do it sooner - IF things start going a little better - because I'm afraid it will mess with his sleep again. I have a HUGE brief due in my legal writing class and I need sleep to write it. If he starts sleeping again, he'll stay in my room until it's done. Then I'll move him when I can nap during the day and don't really have to think. If he doesn't start sleeping, I don't think it will hurt to move him sooner. I guess we'll just see how things go.
Thanks again for all the input. I'll keep you informed re: how it's going.
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Yaaay ! :D Don't you feel alot better after some sleep.
I hope that is the turning point for you and that things just keep gettting better and better for you and henry.
Good luck with your brief !
I totally understand not wanting to change ANYTHING when all is going ok
Big hugs xx
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Sarah, no problem, if it continues on just give me a pm and we'll go from there. :wink:
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Last night was not bad, again. He slept until 11:35pm. I gave him his binky - he couldn't find it - and he cried and cried until I went and stood over his crib. Then he writhed around and squirmed until I had enough and picked him up. He was asleep almost immediately but when I put him down he started crying again. I held him for another 10 minutes or so and put him down. He slept until 6am. So I count that as one waking for about 10 minutes - which is pretty good, considering.
He hasn't slept through in 10 days but it's getting better. Here's hoping he sleeps all the way through sometime soon!
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Hey Sarah,
I am glad to hear that he has had a couple good nights for you, and him!
My poor little Myles has had a rough day :cry: He had a bit of a fever when he got up this morning and just wasn't himself. I worked today and so dh was with him, and I told him to just keep an eye on him because he's never really had a fever before. Sure enough dh calls me at work at 1pm asking me what to do because Myles has a fever of 101, is irritable, and only napped for 45min.. So I told him to give him Motrin and keep things low-key for the afternoon, and then I high tailed it out of work at around 5pm. He barely ate any dinner and was in bed at 6:30 without a peep. But he was already up at 8 just sitting in his crib crying :cry: . So who knows what the rest of my night will be like!?!?
Sorry for rambling on about us, that is terrible of me :oops: . Here's hoping for another good night with Henry!!
Carrie
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I'm so sorry Myles is sick. I know how much that sucks - and how little sleep everyone gets during the process. Did he sleep for you last night? How is he feeling today? Hope he's feeling better and that everyone got some sleep.
Last night was a bad night again. He woke at 1:15am and stood up in his crib - but no binky throwing. He still had it. He was crying (somewhat frantically) around the binky. :roll: He was awake for 2 hours. When I layed him down at 3:30, he woke up within 5 minutes but was asleep again as soon as I picked him up. I put him down again at 3:45am and he slept until 6:35am. I heard him stirring a few times but he didn't need me to get back to sleep. At least not those times.
Of course, he has daycare today and I'm supposed to work on my appellate brief! Blah!!
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Well Myles did really well last night considering he wan't feeling well. He woke me up at 3:30am crying, and I just went in and held him and gave him some water, and he was back down within a couple minutes. He then got up for the day at 6am, so I'm not complaining.
Sorry your night was lousy! What happens when he is awake for 2 hours like that in the night? What do you do?
I hope you have a good day and better night tonight, and good luck with your brief!
Carrie
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When he's awake for hours on end at night I rock him until my hiney falls asleep from the horrible rocking chair then dh takes over until he falls asleep in the chair then I take over again. :roll: Usually Henry just lays there in our arms and blinks and kicks his feet. It's like he's not tired??
He does not like being rocked by dh at night - in fact, last night he cried when I handed him off. He won't fall asleep when dh has him but sometimes I need a break. Last night I had him for an hour then dh had him for an hour. As soon as I took him back, he fell asleep.
I wish I knew what was going on with him - but I'll probably never figure it out.
Glad Myles had a decent night. Is he feeling better today?
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More of our ongoing not-sleeping saga -
Henry usually naps about 2 hours at daycare. She's had some issues with him waking 35-40 minutes into that nap but she's always been able to get him back to sleep. Well, today, after only 8.5 hours of sleep last night, he slept for 50 minutes and then refused to go back to sleep. :shock:
We started bedtime early. I was totally anticipating he would fall asleep while nursing. NOT! He didn't go to sleep until 7:20pm. That is earlier than his usual bedtime but I expected him to fall asleep at 7.
He didn't have any pain meds last night before bed and none today. I can feel the complete outline of one of his molars on the bottom - the ridges and dips and whatnot. So I gave him Tylenol before bed tonight. Hopefully it will help.
I am going to bed now - just in case it's a rough night. If I take him to daycare this Friday, next Monday, Wednesday and Friday, I can get my brief done and over with so I can enjoy the rest of my summer. Woo-hoo!
I just need/want him to sleep!
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I really think its the teeth, especially since my ds is going through the SAME THING right now...but just have to ask...
Has Henry ever had any kind of reflux?
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Never any diagnosed reflux. From reading about other babies here with that problem, I don't think that's it.
Last night was really pretty good. He slept from 7:20pm until 11:00pm - was standing up minus binky crying. I layed him down with binky but he wouldn't stop crying so I picked him up and rocked him back to sleep. He slept until 5:00am!!! I heard him sit up and start fussing. That is way too early to get up so I went to him as quickly as I could and rocked him back to sleep. He slept until 6:50am!!!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, that is 11 hours and 25 minutes of sleep in one night!!!! That may be a record! Sure he woke up twice but they were both quick and relatively painless so I'm not complaining.
He's staying up until around 1 today for his one nap of the day. No am nap today. Wish me luck!!
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Hey Sarah,
That is great about last night!! Have you been doing just the one nap now, may be that is helping with things? How has he done with the nap at 1pm? I only ask because since Myles has been on one nap it has usually been between 11:30 and 12 or 12:30 at the latest. Any later than that and he is overtired and then there are problems. But if 1pm works for you then great!
Oh Myles is much better, thanks for asking. Just a weird fluke day the other day I guess!
Carrie
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He usually still has two naps when at home but daycare is only one - the other kids don't sleep in the am so Henry refuses to sleep, too. She usually puts him down around 12:30 or 1. Today is my first attempt at one nap at home so we'll see how it goes.
He didn't make it to 1. He was giving me big sleepy blinks at lunch and had his eyes almost closed when nursing after lunch so I put him down at 12:30. He fell asleep within 5 minutes - which is very rare anymore.
We'll see how long he sleeps!
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2 hrs 55 minutes! I was going to wake him at 3 hrs but didn't have to - he woke on his own.
We'll see how tonight goes. His teeth seem to be really bothering him - he can't get his little fingers in there far enough to chew on and he's drooling like a St. Bernard. Tylenol again before bed, anyone??
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Wow, great nap!!! You must have been soooo happy! I so love those great nap days. Hopefully tonight is just as good.
I gave Myles motrin tonight before bed too. His poor little gums are bright red right where his eye teeth are coming in. Let me tell you I will be so happy when they finally pop through!
Well here is to us both having nice sleep-filled nights tonight!!!!!
Carrie
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Sorry to burst in the running dialogue, I'm new to this whole thing so I don't know if I should, but I've read everything in this subject and I thought I'd offer my 2 cents.
I have a 14 mo old boy and he sleeps through the night now, he didn't until he was a year old, except for when we are in the room with him. Like when we have company and we give them our room we share with Aidan, and he wakes up every 2 hours. He may wake up during the night on a normal day, I don't know, but I think he sees us and says "TAKE CARE OF ME, NOW!" Also when Aidan is teething, its hell in our home. Our saving grace are teething tablets by Hylands. They just seem to take all his pain away. We give him motrin before bed, but just the tablets and oragel during the day.
I know it's not great advice, but if you can just get through the next couple of weeks, untill he gets his own room it''ll be so much better. And then we he is teething or whatever, don't just rely on Tylenol. I don't know if you've taken your son to a dentist yet, some DRs don't recommend it until 3, but they can help with the teething. If he's in a lot of pain that the tylenol or motrin is not helping, you can call the dentist and he'll write a script up to do the trick. We took our son at 1yr and they've been very helpful.
I'm sorry that you're going through this. I've been there and it sucks. I really hope things start to look up, and you can get a few hours of straight sleep.
Chrissy
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Wow! What a nap! That's awesome! Tyler finally cut one of his top eyeteeth...it poked out and receded a few times, and it's finally out for good. Looks like one of the other ones is getting ready to pop through too. I guess that explains why a certain somebody has been Mr Crankypants lately! Poor kiddos!
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HE SLEPT THROUGH THE NIGHT!!!! First time in two weeks!! WOO-RAY!
Admittedly, he did try to get up for the day at 5am. :roll: I talked him into 5:40 but he's going to need two naps today. I'm going to keep the first one short - no more than an hour - and let the second one go until probably 3:30 or 4.
But yeah!!! He slept through!!!
Glad to hear about that eyetooth, Melissa. Henry finally popped his missing fourth upper tooth. The molars are still sticking all the way up but gum-encased. It's a really strange feeling! I'm sure for him, too.
Chrissy - Thanks for the advice. I'm taking it one day at a time at this point until he's in his own room. And I'm hesitant to give him something stronger than Tylenol. I hate medicating him anyway - I only do it so we can all sleep. I'm not sure I want an Rx that would be stronger - but I will keep it in mind if things don't continue to improve. Thanks!
Carrie - How was it for you and Myles last night? Hope things went well.
I've come to realize that this is my Henry's sleeping diary. I keep track of his sleeping on paper, too, but it's so nice to have input from other mothers with kids his age. :D
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How great is that!!!!! You must feel like a new woman today!!! I am sooooo happy for you and Henry.
Myles did great last night, only waking once at 11pm wanting a drink of water. I didn't even pick him up, just handed him his sippy, he drank like the whole thing, handed it back and I left. Then not a peep until 6am. So it sounds like it was a good night for all of us in Toddlerville!
Well we're off today to the animal park! So that means a long no nap day for Myles. Wish me luck!!
Carrie
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YAAAAAY ! That is great for both of you (and of course Henry and Myles) :D :D :D
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He refused his am nap today but went down without a peep for his pm nap. Hopefully it will be another good one but if not, I'm just going to go with the flow.
He was definitely ready for the transition to one nap. I should learn that there are times that his little body knows what's best.
Tomorrow day and night should be interesting. My step-daughter's 8th grade graduation party is at my in-laws lake house. I plan to drive out there - about a 1.5 hour drive - at 10am, hoping that Henry takes a nap in the car. I'll stay for a couple/few hours and then drive back, again hoping Henry naps in the car. It will probably be an early night just because he probably won't nap a lot in the car so he'll be very very tired. Hopefully that won't mean lots of night wakings but if so, we'll get back on track on Sunday.
I can tell I got sleep last night - I'm much more rational when I'm not completely exhausted!
Edited to add - Another 3 hour nap today. :D
Glad you had a good night, too, Carrie. Knock on wood that it continues!!!!
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Well....yesterday left little to be desired over here!!!!
So we go on this field trip with my neice's pre-school to this animal safari park. We got permission to drive up on our own rather than in the big yellow school bus. So we drive up, it's about 45 minutes, and then board the school bus once at the park to go through the safari part. Now keep in mind that it is 37 degrees (sorry I don't know what that is in farenheit!), hot and humid, and because of the wild animals you have to keep the windows right up! Needless to say it was not an enjoyable hour long tour. Myles did soooo good though, but he was not interested in the animals at all unless they were really close, and essentially just sat on my lap playing with a plastic water bottle. Then we have a picnic lunch, and start to head over to the park part and splash pad area. Myles was sooo great about everything considering how hot it was, but once 1:30 hit he had had enough, and I really couldn't blame him. So we head home and he passes out on the car ride home within seconds.
Now we are home, he's tired and so has dinner and is in bed by 7pm, no problems. Well then dh and I realize the air conditioning is not working, the one we just had fixed 2 weeks ago that cost a small fortune. So it was very, very hot in the house. I eventually moved down to the basement to try and sleep at 1am because I had yet to because it was too warm upstairs. Then poor little Myles woke at 4:30 absolutely soaked in sweat and crying :cry: . And there was no way in h@ll he was going back down.
So that's been the last 24 hours for me!!!!!!!
Sarah, have fun at the party today!!
Carrie
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Oh, and I also meant to say that at the end of yesterday, I felt like the worst mother in the world for even thinking that Myles at 18 months would be able to handle a day like that :oops: .
Carrie
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I'm sorry your day did not go well. I hate it when I do something and then realize later that it was a bad idea. At least he napped in the car on the way home - that's a good thing! And I'm sorry to hear about your A/C. Did you get it fixed today or is it going to be another hot night?
Last night was pretty bad for us, too. Henry woke at 10:00pm, 11:30pm, 1am, and 3:30am. He was up until 5:10 at the 3:30am waking. BUT he slept until 7:30am - which NEVER happens! He's been doing okay as far as total sleep because of his super long naps.
Today we went to my in-laws' lake house. He napped 30 minutes in the car on the way there. It was 95 degrees F - don't know the translation, Carrie but it was HOT!!! He played a lot and sweated a lot. His uncle asked if he had been swimming because his head was so wet with sweat! Anyway, he slept for an hour in the car on the way home.
We'll see how he does tonight. Wish us all luck!!
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Sarah, I'm glad to hear that Henry did well yesterday at your IL's. I'm sure it made it easier for you to enjoy yourself as well.
Well after the 4:30 am wake up yesterday, Myles had a great 3 hour nap which he definitely needed, in the afternoon. He went down at around 7 - 7:30. I had to go in a couple times, because he has this habit of throwing everything out of his crib and then crying for it. So I just go in put everything back in, give him a hug and say night-night. Except the second time I went in he screamed as I just tried to hug him, and wanted to be picked up. I never pick him up and always just lean in and hug him whenever he does this. So I picked him up and held him for a minute, then put him down and he was fine. So now I am almost thinking it may be some sort of separation anxiety? Anyways, he woke this morning at 5am. It's weird because the last couple mornings he has woken early like this, he wakes screaming and is inconsolable even while I hold him in hopes of calming him down and getting him to go back down. Normally when he wakes he's happy, throws everything out of his crib and then just calls out to us the he is up. So who knows!?!? I am really hoping it is his eye teeth that have yet to make their appearance, but that I can see are on the verge of coming through.
Sooooo, how was your night?!?!?!
Carrie
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He slept through again!!!! He started to stir at 5am - which apparently is the right time to get up if you don't wake all night long :roll: - but I got to him in time so he slept until 6:40am. Yeah for Henry!!! I slept from 10:15pm until 4:45am - 6.5 hours?? - so I'm feeling okay this am. :D
Now I'm dreading moving him into his own room!! But, I'll take it slow. I'll stay in there with him all night for a few nights, then slowly start to make my way out of the room. Hopefully it won't be too bad!
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Hi ladies,
I hope you don't mind that I am jumping into the discussion as well. Ethan is a few months younger than your babies but he is doing the exact same things. I won't spend time going into my little story b/c I am sum it up by saying we are in the same boat :D .
Sarah- You asked in the other post if I had done wake to sleep. I actually tried it for the first time last week. The first night I went in at 4am and put my hand on his back until he stirred and then left. He slept until 6 that day. The next night I did the same thing and he was up at 5:30 and the following night he was up at 5. I don't know if I should have stuck with it a bit longer but I gave up. I am afraid to actually pick him up b/c what if he wakes up and then I can't get him back to sleep at all? He has never, even as an infant, let me rock him to sleep. He arches his back and pushes away and screams like a wild man if I try. So I am confused as to what else to try. And I also am a bit confused about what time to do the wake to sleep since he wakes anywhere from 4:30-5:30 for the day.
Well I need to go put mr cranky boy for a nap. It is only 9 but I don't think he can make it much longer he is breaking down fast. Ho hum.
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Hi Jess, welcome to our little club! Myles started his on and off early wakings at the same age as your ds is now. It coincided with developmental milestones, like right before he started crawling, and then again before he started walking. He would do this for a few days leading up to it, master the skill, and then went back to his usualy wake time of 6:30 or so. Now the early wakings are coinciding with teething. He got all his molars in a couple months ago, so we dealt with the early wakings for awhile, and now they have started again with the eye teeth due to make their appearance hopefully any day now! I have also tried everything as well, tinfoil on the windows, white noise, putting to bed later/earlier, motrin, you name it. But I just find he does it for whatever reason, and I just stay consistent with his nap and bedtime, and within a few days he's back to normal. The only thing I haven't tried is the wake to sleep. I think I am paranoid like you, that he'll then just try and wake for the day when I go in, and I refuse to start my day that early!!
How does he go to sleep now at the begining of the night? What does his day look like? I also had to laugh because Myles also HATES to be rocked, and always has since he was a newborn!
Sarah, I am so happy that Henry slept so well again. Don't stress too much about moving him to his own room. I'm not going to lie, it will be hard, but it will be so much better for everyone in the long run. And we are all here to help you through it!
Talk to you all soon!
Carrie
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Jess- Welcome to our little world! I've read that it takes a few days for wake to sleep to fully take effect. When I did it in the past, I did it for a week before risking not doing it. But I've also read that sometimes it just doesn't work. I wish I could offer you more suggestions but I really don't have any other than that.
I have no idea what it's like to have a baby that doesn't like being rocked! I wish I did. I wish I could just put Henry down and he'd go to sleep. I know he'll get there eventually, but it's going to take a lot of effort on both our parts to get him there!
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Thanks for the welcome into this exclusive little club :wink:
We did ok last night, he went to bed at 8 and I heard him cry at 4:30 but I didn't have to go in and he fell back to sleep within a few minutes. Then he was up for the day at 5:45 which is actually a lovely time considering the hour that he has been getting up lately. He didn't nap much yesterday either so he was probably tired. That is why he let me sleep in so late..hee hee. I couldn't do the wake to sleep since he was up at 4:30 but at least he put himself back.
Sarah- I had to laugh when you said that you didn't know what it was like having a baby that doesn't like to be rocked. I have always thought, " wow I wonder what it is like to have a baby that would let me rock him?" At least then I would have something, anything that I could rely on to help him back to sleep. He has never been a thumb sucker and he did take a paci but dropped that at 15 weeks when he got two teeth :shock: So I have always felt like I have to cross my fingers and hope for the best. I guess I won't have any habits to break but there are nights that a little bit of accidental parenting seems like a wonderful idea! :lol: The grass is always greener :lol:
I am so tempted to try what some of you are trying and let him take just a 15 min nap in the morning and then try for a big nap in the afternoon. I have been doing the opposite for about 2 months now since he started refusing his nap in the afternoon. (12 hours is about his quota for the day no matter what way you work it) He has never been a good napper but he established a great morning nap at around 7 months and I am so scared to mess with the one good thing we have going. So I have been letting him sleep as long as he wants in the morning and then since he will not sleep in the crib in the pm we just take a walk and he will snooze in the stroller for a bit. If he doesn't fall asleep then he just stays awake until bedtime (these one early nap days it is an early one at about 6:30) Do you think some kids are just morning nappers? They just stay awake 7 hours or so in the afternoon?
Just out of curiosity what would you all consider a "good" nap when it is just one? at least 1.5 hours?
Jess
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Good morning all!
Well we had a great day yesterday. Although Myles was up for the day at 5am, he had a 3 hour nap in the afternoon, and then was in bed at 7pm, and for the first time in quite a few nights I didn't have to go back in to put everything back in his crib. He woke once at 3:45am wanting a drink of water, went right back down, and then was up for the day at 6am. So I am not complaining!!
Sarah- I soooo wish that Myles would have let me rock him. I remember being pregnant, and we got a glider for his room, and thinking as I would look at it of all the time I would probably spend there rocking my little one. Well Myles had other plans obviously! He was really tough as an infant, as he didn't like to be rocked, walked, has never sucked his thumb, would not take a pacifier (unless you count me as the 'human pacifier'!!), etc.. I am often envious of girlfriends that tell me of their quiet cuddly moments rocking their babies. Oh well, you deal with what you get, right! And maybe this is wrong to say, but enjoy those times with Henry, because they will be gone before you know it.
Jess- It sounds like our lo's are alot alike! Myles also always did really well with his morning nap. It was when he hit around 11 months that I then started having problems with his pm nap, and he was fighting it. So what I did was shorten the am nap to around an hour, so that he would go down ok for the pm nap. At a year I started the transition to one nap. Because we were dealing with early wakings as well, some days were still 2 naps, and others were one. Then what I did was even go out and run errands in the am so he could get a 10-15 minute power nap in the car, to kind of take the edge off, so he wouldn't be overtired for his one nap. On the other hand I have heard of people sticking to the morning nap as the only nap of the day, and they have done fine with that. As for the length of the one nap, Myles needs at least 1.5 to 3 hours, it really just depends on how his night sleep was, and what time he was up at.
Well I hope you ladies had good nights too!
Carrie
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We had a horrible night last night. :cry:
I decided to wake Henry at 2.5 hours into his nap because, like Ethan, he will only sleep a max of 12.5 hours per 24 hour period so I figured that if I shortened his nap a little, he might sleep longer at night. How wrong was I???
He woke once at 8:45pm for about a minute - he had jammed his binky into the corner of his crib and couldn't find it so needed my assistance to get back to sleep. He woke at 3:00am again for about a minute but when I layed him down in his crib he woke again. I rocked him again and when he was all slack jawed and sleeping, I started to stand up to put him in his crib. He did a GASP and was awake until 6:25am. :twisted: :twisted: :shock: He slept until 7:45am after that, which is a good thing.
He has daycare on Mondays and Wednesdays. If he hadn't gone back to sleep, I was going to have to keep him home today so he would hopefully get an am nap. As it is, he went to daycare - so I can work on my brief.
Oh - you guys will get a kick out of this. He gets "up" and "down" confused. I'll be holding him and he'll say, "Up. Up." I'll say, "You are up. Do you mean down?". He'll then say, "Down." Last night while I was rocking him, he spit out his binky and said, "Up. Up. UP! UP!". Then, a little later, I was resting with my eyes closed not looking at him. He let out with this hugely loud, "PEEK BOO!" It was all I could do not to laugh. Silly baby - doesn't he know that 5:30am is for sleeping??
Glad you guys both had good nights. Hopefully tonight will be better for us again. You know, it's my fault we had a bad night. I rejoiced too much about the good nights and it backfired. :roll:
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Sarah- I am sorry to hear about your night last night :( . Don't blame yourself though, he will turn around again! That is very cute about the 'up' and 'down'. I'm kind of starting to worry about Myles because at almost 19 months the extent of his vocabulary is 'Da' and 'Yeah', and then as well a bunch of baby babble. I know his comprehension is very good so that is reassuring, but it's just hard when I see lo's his age and younger far more advanced in this area.
Well here's to a good night tonight for the 3 of us (or 6 of us I guess I should say)!!
Carrie
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Hey Carrie -
Have you talked to his ped about your concerns? Although I know Henry talks a lot for his age, I'm not sure what is considered "normal".
Henry's teething like a maniac again. His gums are swollen and painful-feeling in three places - the fourth front upper tooth and his two bottom molars. He was a huge cranky mess tonight. He cried when I drained his bath tonight - first time that's ever happened! I gave him Tylenol before bed and will redose upon waking if necessary.
Here's hoping we all get some sleep tonight - including all those mamas and babies who aren't involved in this thread! :D
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Well it was a great sleep night at this house last night!! He only napped for an hour and a half yesterday, so I put him to bed at 6:30. Again he went down without a peep, and again I didn't have to go back in to put everything back in his crib. Then nothing until 5:45!!!!!!! He didn't even get up for a drink of water. I was exhausted last night too, and was in bed and asleep by 9pm!
Sarah- I talked to his doctor at his 18 month check, and he didn't seem concerned by it, because his comprehension is so good. So I don't know. I just feel bad for him sometimes when he wants something and gets so frustrated because he can't tell me what it is. I hope Henry had a good night for you!
Oh and a bit of good news...when I gave Myles his bath last night and was brushing his teeth, I took a good look inside his mouth, and saw 2 little holes where his eye teeth are coming in. You don't understand how happy I will be when they come in! It's a good thing I am already going out with my girlfriends on Friday night, because I will then hopefully have reason to celebrate!!
Carrie
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Last night was another bad night for us. Henry woke at 9pm (which was an easy one - insert binky, lay down baby and off to sleep he goes!), 12:00am, 1:00am (more Tylenol), 3:30am (long one - 40 minutes), 5:50am, then awake for the day at 6:25am. :twisted:
He's been out of bed for a total of 10 minutes so far and can't get his hands far enough in his mouth. His gums are still swollen and painful feeling so I'm guessing that's the cause of the last couple of nights. I think I'll try Motrin before bed tonight and see if it does any better.
I know what you mean about how happy you are once the teeth come through. I think I'm going to have on heck of a celebration when his molars come through!!!
Although Henry talks a lot and fairly clearly, he still has trouble communicating what he needs. He gets upset when he doesn't have the words to get what he wants/needs or when I don't understand. They'll both get there. I'm glad your ped wasn't concerned about it - comprehension is more than half the battle!
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Hey Sarah and Carrie,
So sorry to hear about another yucky night for you Sarah. Those molars are certainly giving both of you a run for your money! So how can you tell it is the molars before you see any white? Ethan is showing all of his usual teething signs and from what I can see (he hates when I try and look in his mouth) there seems to be two big bumps where his lower molars would come in. The bumps kind of bulge out to the side but I am not sure if they were always there or if this is the beginning? He has been chewing everything with the back of his gums and drooling a lot.
We actually had a picture perfect day yesterday. He woke at 5:45 for the day and then went down for his nap at 10. Are you ready for this...I had to wake him up at 1:15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't want him to sleep too long for fear that he would have a rough night like he usually does. He was asleep within minutes at 7:30pm and then he didn't wake up until 6 this morning! I was in shock when I looked at the clock. He never sleeps that many hours in a 24 hour period. I actually slept pretty well myself for a change. I gave him motrin yesterday before bed so maybe that helped him. I don't think it makes them drowsy does it? Since his mouth seemed to be bothering him I gave it too him. For now I have decided to give him one nap and start it at 10 or 10:30. He always goes down easy for this nap and he can stay awake quite happily for up to 7.5 hours in the afternoon. I hate to keep him up that long but whenever I do he sleeps longer at night, goes to bed earlier and doesn't seemed to be bothered a bit.
Sarah- When are you moving Henry into his new room? I can't help but think that his waking so much has something to do with the fact that he can see you. I am sure you have thought about this a million times :wink:
We are headed to the beach or a pool today so it should be fun. Ethan loves the water!
Jess
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Henry won't let me look into his mouth but he'll usually let me stick my finger in there. I can feel all the details of his lower molars through his gums - they're like little flesh covered teeth. It's disturbing - and feels painful!
He's moving into his own room after the weekend of the 9th. I'm done with my class on the 7th but we have fireworks - big ones! - about a block from here that weekend. I figure it would probably stress him out about his room to move him in there the night of all the noise so I'm going to wait until after.
I'm still thinking Henry is sleeping too much during the day but don't want to limit his one nap because he's sleeping so poorly at night. Catch 22 anyone??
Hopefully Motrin will help tonight.
I am glad both of you - Carrie and Jess - had good nights. :D
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Hello Ladies!
Sarah- I am so sorry you had such a lousy night :cry: . I am sensing a trend here though, that when I have a good night, you have a bad one, and then vice versa! I am really hoping that we'll both have consistently good ones soon. Yep, I agree with the length of the one nap, especially when they have had a bad night, and you think that the better rested they are during the day, the better they will sleep at night, right? I don't know, Myles can be all over the place with that. Some days he has a great nap, then has a terrible night, or has a bad nap, then sleeps great at night. But then other times it is the opposite!
Jess- Nice nap yesterday!! I'm glad you had a good night as well. As far as when he naps, just do what works for you both. If he has a great nap in the am, and then is fine the rest of the day, and goes down great at bedtime, and then does well during the night, so be it. You may need to tweak it or change it down the road. I'm pretty sure that Motrin doesn't make them drowsy, so I wouldn't worry about it. I hope you had a great day out today!
Here is to good nights for all of us!!!!!
Carrie
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Well, Henry had a three hour nap yesterday, from which I had to wake him!!! He only woke twice last night - once at 12:00am (fell asleep as soon as I picked him up) and 2:00am (insert binky, lay down baby, and off to sleep he goes - again!). He woke for the day at 5:50am, which is earlier than I'd like but he got just over 10 hours of sleep so I really can't complain. It was a good night overall.
Carrie - I hope what you said isn't true, 'cause otherwise you probably had a bad night last night! Hope your night went well for you, too!
I need to stop complaining about Henry's sleep. He really does not sleep badly. He gets enough sleep throughout the day, he just doesn't necessarily sleep when I want him to. Apparently he didn't read the same books I did so he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing! :wink:
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Well maybe Carrie and I are on the same schedule because we had a rough night last night...ugh. I am so tired. I am having one of those days when being a Mommy seems like the most tiring job in the world. Doesn't help that it is gray and raining. It makes me just want to take a nap. Ethan was up for a while at 12:40 and 3:40 and then up for the day at 6 so I didn't sleep very much last night. Then his nap today was 1.5 hours so he has a long time to go until bed tonight. It might be one of those days that we take a quick drive around so he can catch some zzz's to hold him through until bedtime. Both times when he woke last night he was shrieking and screaming. I really think it is the teeth. Darn that teething, just when you get one finished another one comes in. I thought since he got his first 8 teeth so early that we would have a bit of a break but no such luck.
I am so glad you had a better night Sarah! Good for Henry! I don't think any of our babies have read the Baby Whisperer unfortunately. Ethan doesn't seem to think that he needs a schedule, I keep telling him differently. YOu know someday we will be waking these boys to get them to go to school and they won't want to get out of bed. Seems ironic, huh?!
I hope you both have a great day!
Jess
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Well Sarah I guess my theory was wrong! We had another great night last night, down at 7, then not a peep until 6:30!!!!!! I don't know maybe they're on to us! I agree with the stressing about the sleep. I used to be a complete stress case about his sleep, and times, etc.. But now I'm like whatever, I just stay consistent and hope for the best, and remember that tomorrow is another day. Hopefully we're on a good streak right now, although by saying that I've just jinxed myself for sure.
Jess- Sorry about your lousy night. Had you given him Motrin at all before bed? You may want to try that tonight. Oh, and I totally agree about waking them up down the road! The sad thing is it will be here before we know it, and we'll all be laughing at ourselves at how much we complained about their sleep habits now!
Such is life! I hope you both have great days!
Carrie
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Jess - I'm sorry you had a bad night last night. Hopefully tonight will be better. Motrin is really good for teething pain. I read another post with a question from you about making the transition to one nap, specifically giving him a catnap or making him tough it out until bedtime. If it were me, I would give him the catnap. I don't think it will slow down his transition to one nap and it helps make a happier baby (and therefore a happier mama) until bedtime.
Carrie - I'm glad you had a good night. You've had a few in a row - hopefully your streak will continue!
Today was an interesting day for Henry at daycare. He had a great morning - played, had breakfast, played some more, went outside, had lunch, had bottle, and went down for his nap. He woke after an hour and 40 minutes screaming. When his daycare provider picked him up, he vomited all over her and himself. :cry: After that, he played, had a snack of crackers and water, and played some more. You would never know that he threw up.
I don't think his milk was bad but we're having some problems with our frige so I'm not sure. Usually if it's even questionable he won't touch it so I'm thinking (hoping) that it was okay.
He went to sleep early tonight with no pain meds. I didn't want to upset his tummy if it's already dodgy so no pain meds. Hopefully our night won't be too bad although I'm already expecting a couple/few wake ups.
Here's hoping you all had good days and have good nights!
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I guess Tyler read this thread and started feeling a little left out!
Tues night it took him 1.5 hrs to fall asleep at bedtime. We'd driven back from my parents' house that day (3 hrs) and he only got a 30 min nap in the car. Even though we put him to bed early, he was still sooo overcooked. After an hour of binky tossing, he just started bawling and wouldn't settle. He finally did fall asleep. I thought, bad day. Oh well.
He went to bed fine the next night (last night). He rarely wakes during the night even once, but last night, I lost count of how many times he woke up crying. All I know is that I don't remember getting up between 1230-3, so he must have taken a break then after a midnight dose of Motrin. I heard from him at least every half hour. I don't know if he's sick, if it's teeth, or what, but he was so stuffed up...not good for a binky user. Today he's been drooling like mad, his nose is runny on the side where an eyetooth is coming in, and his eye is watering on that side. I've never seen anything like this! His mood is fine today, but he just woke up crying 30 min into his nap and needed help to go back down. Too weird.
I hope the thread is quiet today because all of you got a good night of sleep last night! Must go nap, caffeine isn't working today!
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I'm sorry you had a bad night, Melissa. Luckily you know it's not the norm so hopefully things will get back to normal for you fairly quickly. Your description of Tyler made me feel bad for him - poor baby!
Henry woke up every hour last night for several hours but it was an insert-binky-lay-down-baby-and-off-he-goes-to-sleep kind of night. :D
Nap was not so great today but I didn't numb his gums beforehand - he woke at an hour 40 minutes but I got him to go back to sleep for another 50 minutes. Not as bad as 30 minutes but not as good as he's done recently.
I gave him Motrin before bed tonight. Teething sucks! I can now feel the ridges of his molars under his gums. Hopefully they'll break through soon! Of course, then there are the two top ones. And then eye teeth. And then more molars. . . . . Yeah!!!
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Hey guys!
Sarah and Melissa I feel so bad for your teething babies. It sounds so awful for them. Ethan is teething again but I don't think he is as far into it as your kiddos. Poor Tyler seems like he is having such a rough time. I suppose even though it is a pain for us they really do get the short end of the stick. Pain, drooling, stuffy nose, full diapers...you name it. Somehow that doesn't ever cross my mind when I have woken up for the hundreth time at night. I am too busy feeling sorry for myself at that point :lol:
I did give Ethan some Motrin for the last two nights and it seemed to help a bit. We have been back to one morning nap and a late afternoon catnap for the past two days as well. He is waking from his morning nap early and is crying (I give him some pain med for this too but it doesn't seem to be helping as much as at night) Wed. night was great and then last night he was up three times and then for the day at 5:30. It is such a yo yo game. I went to bed by 9 last night though so it could have been worse.
Myles did from 7-6:30!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D That is absolutely my ideal night! Fantastic and Carrie I hope you were able to get some rest too.
We had a great day yesterday despite the two short naps. I was able to get together with one of the other moms that I have been chatting with on this site. We have been talking since our babies were around three months old so it was so fun to actually get to meet. We took the babies to the beach and had some lunch together. :D
Here's to a great day of naps!
Jess
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Sorry me again... I know this is the wrong forum to ask this but since I have you here....When did you drop bottles from your schedules or are you still using them? We currently have an 8oz bottle when he wakes up, then one after lunch of about 6oz and then a bedtime bottle of 8oz. He eats a good amount of solids for breakfast and dinner but lunch he doesn't eat very much (even if I do the bottle after solids). I ask this b/c I don't know how to make the transition to cow's milk and the transition to a sippy cup for his milk intake. Also if he ever pushes this one nap to 12:00 or so how in the world do I fit lunch and a bottle before that nap? What did you all do with feeding at this stage right before they turned one? thanks!!
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Hello Ladies,
Well the great streak is continuing here! Wednesday night Myles slept again from 7-6:30. Yesterday for some reason he cried and refused his nap. He was with dh, who was off and I was at an appointment. He did this as well with dh on Tuesday when I worked, but has gone down fine for me with naps this week, so I don't know maybe he's going through like a separation anxiety thing with him. Anyways dh took him for a car ride then yesterday, because he had an errand to run about 45 min. away. Myles slept on the way there, so at least he got some kind of nap. Then I put him to bed at 6:30, because he was exhausted, and he slept right through without a peep until 6:30!!!!!!! I am just waiting for this streak to come to a screeching halt anytime now, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
Sarah- Sorry to hear about the rough night the other night. Even when they are easy to get back down, it is so tiring to have your sleep all broken up. Hopefully things were better for you last night!
Jess- Sorry to hear about your night last night as well. It sounds like you had a good day yesterday though. It is fun meeting fellow BW's, and put faces and such to the names. As for the bottles, at that age Myles still had 3, one once he woke, another after his am nap, and then the last after his pm nap. He never had one before bed. I dropped the first one, the after am nap one when he dropped that nap at about a year, and replaced it with a snack. I then dropped the after pm nap one at about 14 months old, as he just wasn't that interested in it, and again replaced it with a snack. At a year old we transitioned to whole milk, very gradually by increasing the amount of milk and decreasing the amount of formula. At the same time I started offering milk in a sippy at lunch and dinner. Once we made the transition to one nap, Myles would have lunch at around 11-11:30, usually it was pretty light and still is, as he is not overly hungry. Now at almost 19 months he still has his bottle when he wakes in the am. It's a nice cuddly time for the 2 of us on the couch, so I am not pushing to drop that one. I figure if he hasn't given it up on his own by 2, I'll worry about it then. Does this answer some of your questions?
Melissa- Sorry you're having to join our club, but it is nice to have you here. Myles' eye teeth have just started to break through, so I feel your pain!!!!!! We had a couple of very rough nights last week, with lots of waking, and early, early rising, and not to mention him becoming 'Cranky Crankerson'. Hopefully Tyler has those teeth break through soon!
Today it's Canada Day, so we're hoping to get out, and take part in some of the festivities! I hope you all have a great day as well!
Talk to you soon!
Carrie
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Hey Carrie - Where are you in Ontario? I'm in a sub of Detroit, right across the river! I'm thinking of planning a SE Michigan BW get together - I'll be sure to include Canada, too!
Jess - Henry doesn't really do bottles but he nurses 4 times a day. He gets bottles at day care after lunch but that's only twice a week. With being on one nap, this is his current rough schedule -
6:30am - wake up (on a good day)
7:00am - breakfast
8:30am - nurse
11:30am - lunch
12:15pm - nurse
12:30pm - nap
4:00pm - nurse
6:00pm - dinner
7:30pm - nurse then bed
Last night was bad again. I need to stop giving him Motrin before bed. Although it seems to work better on the pain and lasts longer, I really think it upsets his tummy. It seems like we have more/longer nightwakings when I've given him Motrin than when I give him nothing or give him Tylenol. He was up at 2:30am for 1.5 hours, then woke up as soon as I layed him down (3:50am), then woke up as soon as I layed him down (4:30am), then slept from 5:00am until 6:15am when he woke himself out of a deep sleep by saying, "BLESS YOU!" at the top of his lungs. :roll:
Today is a new day. We'll see what it brings us!
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Hey Sarah,
I live just west of Toronto, so probably about a 3 hour drive from Detroit. That would be fun to have a get-together. Actually dh and I were planning a weekend to Detroit just a couple weeks ago. He is a die-hard San Francisco Giants fan, and they were in Detroit for a series against the Tigers. We were going to go for our anniversary :roll: , I know really romantic! Anyways it just didn't end up working out.
Sorry you had another rough night! Maybe Henry knows it's the weekend, and he feels like giving you a break :D !
Carrie
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My poor kid is a MESS!!!
Last night was easily his worst night ever. He woke every 30 min crying and took 5-10 min to settle. Ugh. The worst part was that during bedtime wind down and once during a night waking, he was completely inconsolable for a good 20-30 min. NOTHING worked. It was really scary...he was writhing and arching, sometimes screaming, sometimes rhythmically jerking his head and making a honking noise like a goose. I was on the verge of taking him to the ER, it was awful. He finally settled back to sleep, and I took him to the dr first thing this morning. Guess what? He has his first ear infection! And...ready for this?...possibly CHICKEN POX. This morning he woke up with patches of red bumps on his forearms, and the dr wasn't sure if it was chicken pox or if he'd gotten scraped up from playing in a field of strawberries yesterday (evidently the plants have thorns, who knew?). Despite the fact that he's had the chicken pox vaccine (it has a 5-10% failure rate, I guess), we're keeping an eye on it to see if it spreads. If so, there's our answer! He did rule out poison ivy and all those icky things, so we'll wait and see.
Jess - I dropped the lunch bottle first because it was too hard to fit that and lunch in before naptime. I gradually transitioned him to milk by dropping a bottle, then waiting a week or so to let him adjust his solids intake. The mid afternoon bottle went next and got replaced with snack time. Next to go was the AM bottle. I waited a long time to get rid of the bedtime bottle...I dropped it when he was 15 mo, and after he turned 1, I put milk in the bottle instead of formula. How is he doing with the sippy cup? Is he drinking out of it yet? When I first transitioned Tyler to milk, we sat together and he'd drink his sippy of milk in my lap at bottle time, as if he was having a bottle. I think that helped him figure it out.
Good luck tonight, gals! If I'm up, I'll be thinking of you and hoping you aren't awake too!
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Melissa -
So sorry to hear about Tyler's ear. At least you know why he was waking. Good thing following your instincts and taking him to the dr. He'll feel so much better when the antibiotics kick in. Until then, you know not to be shy about the pain meds. They really help with the pain. Hope he sleeps for you tonight and feels better tomorrow.
Henry's fourth upper tooth is still not out. And his lower molars are still just under the skin. Now his upper gums are all hot and swollen. :roll: He'll stop teething eventually, right??
Also, he'll go into his own room probably next Saturday. I'm happy but sad about it. He's been so close to me at night for so long. It will be a difficult transition for me, regardless of how he deals with it. 8 nights including tonight until the move. :?
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He'll stop teething eventually, right??
Ya know, I wonder this myself all the time! I'm always reminding myself "Okay, 13 down, 7 to go..." Poor Henry, I wish his teeth would just pop out already!
Wow, Henry's new room will be weird, won't it? Once he gets used to it, I'll bet you both sleep better. Isn't it funny how some of these transitions are so hard? I've been doing potty orientation with Tyler for awhile now (he loooves sitting on the potty), but I've been procrastinating doing real potty training because babies are supposed to wear diapers. If he wears undies, he's a real boy, not a baby! NOOOO!!!!
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I think Henry is trying to kill me. Either that or drive me insane.
He woke last night at 12:15am until 1:50am. Then he woke for the day at 5:15am. :twisted:
When I was trying to get him back to sleep, he was writhing and basically screaming with tears. He was either very unhappy or very uncomfortable. He's had his finger corked in his left ear for a few days now but doesn't cry when I touch it and hasn't had any cold or cough that would make me think ear infection. I gave him Tylenol and numbed his gums and although the writhing and screaming decreased, it didn't stop until he fell into an exhausted sleep. :cry:
Is this still molars? Or is it something else? I'm not taking him back to the doctor - or I don't want to - but am considering getting one of those ear-looker-inner things to see what I can see in there.
I feel like the worst mom ever. He's went 10 days without sleeping through, slept through twice and now it's been another week of not sleeping through. I feel like this is all my fault - like somehow I've caused this or I'm being punished for something. I'm tired to the very center of my bones. It's been two months since he's slept through consistently. What am I doing wrong?
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Sarah-
You are doing everything right, please please don't blame yourself. Henry is just having a tough time with teething or whatever else it is. Who in the world knows what makes some babies wake more than others, it is a mystery that I don't know if we will ever have the answer to.
You have been doing everything in your power to help him with sleep. Sometimes there just isn't anything you can do but survive. Ethan was up so many times last night I stopped counting. Then I could hear him grunting and making all of these lovely poo noises at 5:15. I knew that would be it for the day. It is SO frustrating. You feel like you could pull you hair out. Take heart and know that it won't last forever, some mothers like us are just blessed with kids who like to spend all the time they can with their mommies :roll: :wink: Aren't we lucky?!
Melissa- Poor you and poor Tyler, what a rough time he is having too. Ethan did that inconsolable thing once about a month ago and I actually did call the hospital. It is so scary isn't it? Nothing can stop the crying and all of the usual tricks don't work. Hopefully Tyler has woken up for the day today feeling much better and has forgotten about the whole episode. Wouldn't it be easier for us if we didn't remember either? :D
Carrie- I am so glad that one of us is sane and is getting some sleep. Please log in some extra hours for us and tell Myles way to go!
Thanks for all of the schedule help. You all are great!
Coffee here I come! :D
Jess
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Melissa- Poor Tyler, poor you!!! How is he doing now that he's on medication for the ear infection? Do they just wait for the spots to appear to determine if it's chicken pox? Well at least now you know why he was so out of sorts. Hopefully he'll sleep well tonight for you!
Jess- Another lousy night for you and Ethan. Hopefully those teeth will pop out soon, and he'll be back on track. Just stay consistent and you'll both be fine.
Sarah- YOU ARE NOT A BAD MOM!!!! For some reason he's having a rough time right now, but it is not your fault. I know it's hard because when you're in the thick of it, you're just trying to think of what you did or didn't do, and how you can fix it. Do what you can right now to get him to sleep, so you can get sleep, and then once he's in his own room it will be like a clean slate. The molars don't help I know, and I really hope they come through soon. I was ecstatic when Myles' came in.
Well we've been pretty good here. Myles slept great again last night, but do you think he would nap today? NOOOOOOOOO!!! So it was a car ride this afternoon, so he could nap for about 30-45 min. :oops: . Oh well, I put him down at 6:30 and he went down relatively easy, only had to back in once and put everything back in his crib.
On a side note, did any of you catch any of the 'Live 8' concerts? Wow, it was really good, and some of the African footage they showed was heart wrenching.
Carrie
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Melissa - How is Tyler doing?
Jess - Is Ethan sleeping any better?
Carrie - I've come to the conclusion that it's either night sleep or naps. You can't have both. You've got the great night sleep. I get the great naps. (Knock on wood, please let them continue!) Henry is consistently napping 2.5-3 hours every afternoon. I love it. I keep thinking about reducing his nap time so maybe he'll sleep more at night but I love the break during the day. I'm in a cunundrum (don't know if I spelled that right!). What to do? What to do?
Henry is still NOT sleeping through. He woke last night less than 2 hours after going to sleep. I think the damn fireworks woke him up. He didn't go back to sleep for almost 2 hours - until the damn fireworks stopped. :twisted: There will be fireworks all week long here. Oh what fun this week will be! On a positive note - after he went to sleep at 11:30pm, he slept through until 6:10am. :D
Sending you all good sleep vibes - whether they be night time vibes or nap vibes is up to you!
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Well the screeching halt has arrived!!!!!!!!!!!
Myles refused to nap again yesterday. Screamed his head off when I left his room. I tried going in a couple times to hold him and try to calm him down but to no avail. So we went into my room to have a cuddle and watch a Baby Einstein video. Within 10 minutes he was out cold. He has never done that in his life!! So I just left him there, surrounded him with pillows, and went downstairs to try and have some me time. I got him up and hour and a half later. He was soooo miserable all day yesterday too, meltdowns and tantrums all over the place.
So needless to say I could not wait until bedtime, and he went down ok, just went in once to put everything back in his crib. At aroiund 3:15am I could hear him up and throwing everything out of his crib, which he normally does when he gets up in the morning. Then he starts crying, so I go in put everything back in, give him some water, and then leave. About 15 min. later he does the same thing, and then again another 15 min. later, and so on and so on. Finally at around 4:30 or so he is now really crying. I tried everything, motrin, holding him, whatever, and he would have none of it. So yep we've been up since 3:15am :shock: :cry: :evil: !!!!
I have no idea what is up with him, and the fact that he hasn't napped the last two days makes me worry what today will be like. I hope that it is his teeth, because then at least there is a tangible reason for all of this. I'm telling you, around here when it rains it pours!!!!!!
I am so excited that I am working tomorrow and get a day off!!!!!
Carrie
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oh yikes Carrie! 3:15 is horrible, I bet you feel like a zombie today. So sorry! Working sounds so nice sometimes, a much needed break would be nice. I hope you have a good day and that Myles naps for whoever is watching him. I can't believe he is not napping at all. I guess it is different when they are older but that would have me at my wits end. Is he happy the whole day when he won't sleep?
Ethan is still out of sorts a bit. The night before last he was up screaming every 30 mins the whole night. I couldn't figure out what was going on and then he was up for the day at 5:15. Last night was better he was only up twice and then slept until 6:15. This morning I totally screwed up :oops: :twisted: I went into his room 10 mins after he fell asleep for his nap and noticed that his leg was stuck in the crib rail. I am sure you can see where this is going, I moved the leg, he screamed and slept for a whopping total of 10minutes. So I guess I will have the opportunity to try the short morning catnap and then a later long nap after lunch. I am beating myself up over this but he is happily playing right now so I need to get over it. What a dummy I am though!!! I hate putting him down in the afternoon b/c he screams so loudly and has refused that nap since he was 9 months old. AHHHH! Sorry for the vent
Jess
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I really am at a loss as to what is going on with Myles. After being up since 3:15 you'd think he would pass out right away for his nap right? Nope, screamed and screamed. I know it's not that he is overtired, because he's been overtired before and I've never dealt with anything like this. I just don't understand what is wrong with him, and it is making me crazy. He has always been so good, sure an off day here or there, but to change on a dime like this?!?! He's asleep now, the only way he would fall asleep was on my bed next to me watching the Baby Bach video. I know it's wrong to do, but he is exhausted and needs to sleep.
Anyways, I did put a call into his doctor and am bringing him there this afternoon, just to rule out anything medical. Could it be an ear infection? He's never had one, and was sick with a cold and cough last week.
I am just so frustrated and I have no clue as to why he is doing this!
Carrie
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Jess - Sorry to hear things are still not going well for you. Baby sleep (or lack thereof) can really suck sometimes! I try really hard not to move Henry when he's sleeping but sometimes it's so hard not to - he looks so uncomfortable! But, I figure he'd move it he's uncomfortable. Hopefully he'll nap well this afternoon.
Carrie - So sorry to hear about Myles. Henry has waked at 3:30am a couple of times. Makes the day REALLY long!!! I'm glad you're taking him to the doctor. I'm torn between hoping he doesn't have an ear infection - because they're no fun for anyone - and hoping he does - so you know what's going on with him and can treat it. Have you tried giving him pain meds before nap/bedtime? Motrin or Tylenol can help with the pain from an ear infection as well as pain from teething - either way you can't lose. Are his eye teeth in or in process? Listen to me giving advice - you'd think I have a baby who actually sleeps! :roll:
It's so nice to have other mothers here who actually understand what I'm going through with Henry. Thanks so much for being here for me.
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Hey Sarah,
Thanks for the words of encouragement! I know what you mean about being torn, and I kinda hope there is an ear infection or something so that there is a reason he's being like this. I gave him motrin last night before bed and he went down fine, and then today when I tried to go in and calm him for his nap. Maybe I should have just given it to him ahead of time. Do you think it could be separation anxiety? I think he's too old for that now and I remember already dealing with it when he was younger. His eye teeth are in the process of coming. I could have sworn that I started to see them the other day, and now they're gone. I just wish they would come in already!
I'll let you know how the doctor's goes!
I am so grateful for you ladies as well. It makes me feel so normal knowing that others are dealing with the same issues, and that it doesn't make me a bad mother.
Carrie
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Carrie- Eyeteeth seem to have a way of popping out then receding over and over. Just when you think "Thank GOD, they're in!" they disappear again! Try Motrin about 15-20 min before bed or nap time. That's what we've been doing since the ear infection, and it's made a big difference. Could also be sep anx...Tyler still goes there on occasion. Hope the dr will be able to give you some answers!
Jess- I've made that mistake before too! It's so hard not to fix little feet and hands that dangle outside the crib!
Sarah- Don't you love fireworks? :roll: Our neighbors actually have some barrel thing that looks like a beer keg that launches them in the air and makes a big boom. Evidently THEY aren't worried about keeping kids up...theirs are all under 6 and have been up until midnight lighting fireworks with them!! :shock:
Tyler's doing much better, I think the penicillin is starting to kick in. He's slept through for the last couple of nights and has been really tired in general. His cold is clearing up, so I think we're starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. He doesn't have chicken pox, the rash cleared up and didn't spread. That's pretty much how the diagnosis goes if you aren't positive he's been exposed to chicken pox...wait and see if it spreads. Glad we dodged that bullet!!!!
Sending sleep vibes your way, everyone!
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I jinxed myself yet again. Henry only napped for 1.5 hours. I know that I really can't complain considering a. he napped at all, and b. it was over 30 minutes. I did not give him Tylenol before his nap and I should have. Damn molars. :twisted:
Melissa - Glad to hear that Tyler is feeling better and that he didn't/doesn't have chicken pox.
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HE HAS AN EAR INFECTION!!!! :cry:
Yep, that was the diagnosis, and the doctor said it looks pretty bad too. My poor little bean. I knew, knew, knew something was wrong. Anyways, he has a prescription and the doctor told me to keep giving motrin to help with pain.
At least now I know it is 'something'.
Wish me luck for tonight!
Carrie
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Carrie, I'm so glad you have some explanation! I know how much it sucks to see your poor little guy in pain, but it's such a relief when you have a reason and there's something you can do about it. Good job trusting your instincts...hope he gets better soon!
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So glad you found out what was going on! Hope he gets better soon.
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Carrie- What a wierd thing to say but I am glad it is an ear infection. Like the other ladies said at least you have a reason and a way to take care of your little peanut. Poor guy, ear infections can be so painful.
Melissa- Thank goodness that your diagnosis wasn't chickenpox! And it is wonderful to hear that Tyler is having a few good days. Gosh you are opening my eyes to a few things...I had no idea that eye teeth could appear and then disappear. That sounds like great fun! :roll: I remember a while back seeing a picture of Tyler and noticing his beautiful eyes, do you have any updated ones of you little man?
Sarah- Henry little Henry. I have to say the other day when you said he kept you up by saying cute things to you (wasn't it like peek-a-boo or god bless you) I really laughed. At least he is endearing in the middle of the night :wink: Sorry for the short nap but as you said it could have been a lot worse.
Ethan did take a 2 hour nap this afternoon, so I felt much better after ruining his sleep this morning. You would think I would learn by now..sigh.
So off subject a little...but did anyone do anything fun for the 4th? We had a big bbq on Saturday night and dh was nice enough to go home and put Ethan to bed so that I could stay. We live near the beach so we had some yummy seafood. It feels so good to get out sometimes and talk with adults. It is a good thing that I don't start talking to people saying "ba ba ba, da da da, ma ma ma" :wink: Well I am off to have some dinner and then veg out in front of the tv. I hope you all have good evenings and even better nights of sleep.
Jess
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He went down ok. I had to go back in few times to reassure him, and then ended up just staying there rubbing his back for a couple minutes. He popped his little head up when I left and has been fine. I am just so anxious about how tonight will be.
I know it's terrible, but I am almost happy that it is an ear infection because now I know it is something. I hate seeing him sick though, and he is such a trooper. It's almost like he is scared when he is sick like this because he doesn't know what is going on, and I am his comfort so he wants me near him (does that make sense?). Oh well, when he's sick it's like all bets are off until he's better.
Melissa- How was Tyler taking his medication? I feel bad as I have to physically restrain Myles to get it in him.
Thanks for all your kind words ladies, Myles and I both really appreciate it!
Sweet dreams to all of us!
Carrie
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Isn't it funny how we're glad when we get a diagnosis of something? It's always such a relief to be able to have something to work with!
Yup, the joys of eyeteeth. See what you have to look forward to?
Tyler is a complete freak about medication. He LOVES it. All of it. Mylicon, Tylenol, Motrin, this nasty pink goop for his ear infection...weird kid. He's always taken it more than willingly, and sometimes he gets excited when he sees the syringe. :roll:
I'll see if I can scare up a recent pic...thanks for the compliment on his baby blues! I think they're amazing, but I'm just a tiny bit biased!
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Melissa- That is funny about the medication!! Myles is that way about Motrin, and sits there with his mouth open waiting for it. This pink stuff though is another story!
Myles slept right through until 6am. I couldn't be happier as we all needed a good nights sleep. Dh and I were both in bed before 9pm in preparation for a long night, but I guess Myles felt like giving us a break.
Yes, I think I need to see some updated pictures of Tyler, Henry, and Ethan!
I'm working today, so I'll talk to you all later, and I hope that everyone had good nights and have great days today!
Carrie
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Well we had another lousy night last night :cry: Ethan was up about 8 times. I felt like I was reliving the other night. I changed his diaper, made sure he wasn't hot or cold, tried to give him some water (which made him completely hysterical) and I gave him some more meds, but nothing seemed to work :cry: I am so tired...sigh. I might call the pediatrician today to rule out anything medical. I just can't figure it out.
Oh and boy do I have to restrain him to give him medicine. He used to love anything from a syringe and he has decided now that it is all poison. Fighting with that in the middle of the night in a dark room is horrible. I think I get more on the walls and the carpet than in his mouth :wink: :lol:
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We had a bad night, too, Jess. Henry was up at 12:45am, 1:10am, 2:00am, and 3:45am. He was awake for about 30 minutes at the 1:10am wake up and another 30 minutes at the 2:00am wake up but otherwise was right back to sleep.
I've been trying to decide if he's forgotten how to settle himself or if it's his stupid molars. I still don't know but these wake ups have been different than before when he didn't want to settle himself. He doesn't just wake up and stand, he wakes crying and then stands crying. In fact, at the 3:45am wake up last night, he woke up, cried out, "Owie!" and started crying. :cry: I gave him more Tylenol at that point and he did me a favor and "slept in" until 6:35am. The waking crying thing makes me thing it's stupid molars, not that he doesn't remember how to resettle. Plus the fact that he can still sleep 6-7 hours at a stretch - I know he wakes up in that time and gets himself back to sleep because I've found him at the other end of his crib from where he started.
What do you all think?
Henry knows which meds I'm giving him. He doesn't like Motrin but will tolerate it because he knows if he doesn't take it willingly, I'll hold him down. Same thing with Amoxicillian. But he LOVES Tylenol. If I give it to him in the living room, he'll walk across the room to me to get it. If I give it to him before nap/bed, he'll take his binky out so he can take it.
Oh - and now all four molars are just under the skin. I can feel every detail of them but they won't come through!!!
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Hey Sarah,
this is from the book forum, but I wanted to tell you to definitely get the Girlfriend's Guide to Toddlers. It is so down to earth about everything you could think of when dealing with toddlers. She has great chapters on sleeping, eating, comfort things (binkies, blankies). I just started it a few days ago and can't put it down. I would consider it a must read for a mom of a Toddler.
Oh and here is an updated picture of Ethan for you guys. I would love to see your little ones to! Carrie I have no idea what Myles looks like! I know Henry and Tyler are adorable and have the cutest little smiles.
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Oh my goodness is he adorable!!!!! Look at that proud little man! :D
I'm in the throws of doing my appellate brief for my advanced legal writing class (can I tell you how much fun this is to do on 3 hours of sleep??) but as soon as I'm done I'll get it. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Well Myles again refused to nap today for dh, so they went down to the family room and he fell asleep on him. Then tonight I got home from work at around 6pm, and we put him to bed around 7pm. It took me an hour and a half to get him to sleep!!!!!!! I haven't had a night like this since he was an infant! I'm almost starting to think that there is some separation anxiety happening with the ear infection and eye teeth coming in. I literally had to go back in his roon and hold him until he was asleep about 15 times, until he finally stayed down and slept. He would get soooo sleepy and I would put him down, and then right away he would be up and crying wanting me to pick him up. Melissa, did you go through this with Tyler and his ear infection? It is so draining and frustrating, as he used to be so good about going down for naps and bed. I just keep thinking, do what I need to do to get him to sleep, and then when he is better worry about getting him to go to sleep on his own again.
Sorry to hear you all had bad nights :( .
It will get better soon right?????????
Here are a couple pics, one with Myles and I, and then one of him. They're from April, so not the most recent, but the only recent ones I have loaded on the computer. I hope this works because I am completely computer illiterate :oops: .
Carrie
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What a bunch of cuties!!!! Ethan has such a big, happy smile, and Myles has such gorgeous curls!! What sweeties!
Tyler seemed to have some issues with being horizontal when his ear infection was at its worst. He'd scream like a madman if I tried to lay him down or even cradle him, he just wanted to be upright. I totally did whatever it took to get him to sleep, and I was lucky that there wasn't any fallout once he felt better. Hope that poor little dude feels better soon!
Here's some pics of Tyler...I've never uploaded an attachment before, so I hope it works! Silly story to accompany pic #2...Tyler worships that weird plastic lizard that he's clutching. He calls it "Lee lee" and has to have it in the car and during errands (we get some weird looks, especially in restaurants). While I'm driving, I often hear "Lee lee...mwah!" as he kisses it. :roll:
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It was a much better night in our household last night. I actually put him to bed at 6:30 since he was so tired from all of these sleepless nights. He slept through until 5:00 (very early but 10.5 hours is beautiful compared to what we have had lately). We had one little crying spell at 8:30 but didn't hear from him again until morning. He may have even slept longer but the Great Poo came calling again.
Melissa- Lee Lee made me absolutely laugh out loud!!! :lol: :lol: That is so adorable. I love it! ONe of my best friend's sons is in love with a rubber chicken. You know the ugly ones that are plucked and look dead, he takes that thing everywhere. "lizardness" :wink: And those baby blues, so cute!
Carrie- Myles has the most gorgeous curls. He is going to give Ethan hair envy, lol! My poor boy is still bald :roll: Really though Myles is gorgeous and he looks so grown up in his little tie and cardigan. Sorry to hear about Myles being so uncomfortable. You have taken so much time to train him to sleep on his own that I don't think he will have much trouble getting back on track when he is better. That is the wonderful thing with starting the sleep training so early...could you imagine just starting it now with all of this other stuff going on?! I hope he feels better soon :(
Sarah- How did your paper go? I hope Henry gave you some much needed relief last night.
Jess
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No relief for me!! He went down with no problem whatsoever at 7:30pm but then woke when he coughed so much he threw up in his bed at 11:15pm. Interesting thing, though - we changed his sheet, changed his sleeping bag, etc. He was right back to sleep as soon as I picked him up. He then woke at 1am - and was right back to sleep. He woke at 2am - dh reinserted binky and he was back to sleep. He woke at 4:50am - and was right back to sleep (which never happens that close to 5am!!). And then up for the day at 5:50am. But I put his precious binkies in his crib with him and I swear he went back to sleep for about 25 minutes (which never happens!!!!)
I think he's coming down with something more serious than just the sniffles. I feel bad but he's going to day care today so I can finish my paper - but then she's on vacation for two weeks so he'll be home with me until July 25.
Jess - Glad you finally had a good night!!! 10.5 hours is awesome. Don't you hate it when they wake because of bodily functions?? :lol:
Carrie - Sorry to hear about your bad night. When Henry had his first ear infection he didn't want to be put down. We held him all night long for about 3 nights. I was concerned that he would get used to being held all night but as soon as he felt better, we could put him down again. Do what you need to do to let him sleep and deal with the fall out later. Hope he feels better soon.
All these little men are soooo cute! I have to transfer photos from dh's computer to mine, then pick and resize one before I can post it but I'll try to do that today.
My brief is essentially finished. I just need to proofread and maybe revise a little, then do my table of contents and table of authorities. Woo-hoo!!!
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Melissa- I'm almost glad to hear that Tyler was the same way. It gives me hope that Myles will be back on track once he feels better. Tyler is gorgeous!!! That is funny about the lizard. I have a friend who's son at that age was attached to a peanut butter container, and couldn't go anywhere without it :lol: ! I agree as well, that I just need to do what it takes to get him to sleep until he feels better.
Jess- Ethan is adorable!!!! He'll have lots of hair before you know it. It's funny because when Myles was born he had a full head of dark hair, and we thought it would stay dark because dh and I both have dark hair and dark brown eyes. But he has big blue eyes and bonde curly hair, and now with the humidity of the summer his hair is really curly. I just can't bring myself to get it cut yet, and I'm sure I'll cry my eyes out when I finally do. Glad to hear you had a good night last night!
My night was ok. After it took him sooo long to get down, there wasn't a peep from him, but then he was up at 5am. It wouldn't bother me so much if he was napping ok, but he hasn't napped in his crib since last Friday, and that is what is stressing me out. I think today I need to just do what it takes and for however long to get him to nap in his crib. I don't know, what do you all think???
Carrie
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Carrie - He'd probably sleep better in his crib but I don't know how much he'd fight you, though, if he's still not feeling well. I don't know if I would stress him out by trying to make him nap in his crib if he's still feeling badly. KWIM? But maybe give it a try - he might surprise you if he's feeling better. Good luck!
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Here's my little man!!!
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Oh my gosh Sarah!, Henry is adorable!!! I love his innocent little smile. He is so so so cute! What a happy little face. I can't imagine a darling like that keeping you up at night :lol: :wink:
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Thank you!
I said to dh the other day that I now know the true meaning of unconditional love. The child will not let me sleep either more than 5 hours in a row or in 4 2 hour stretches at night yet I love him more than the air I breath. :D And it's not just 'cause he's cute but that sure doesn't hurt any!
Hey Carrie - Were you able to get Myles to nap in his crib? Hope your day went well.
Henry was so congested before bed tonight that he couldn't nurse. I gave him his new Rx for Zyrtec. We'll see if it helps or if it keeps him up all night. Wish me luck!!
Sleepy vibes to all of you . . .
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Sarah, what a little ladykiller you have! You must just sit around and smooch those pudgy cheeks all day long!
Good luck tonight, everyone!
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Hello Ladies!!!
Sarah- Henry is just beautiful!!!! I fell the same way about Myles when he is giving me a rough time. I always say to dh "It's a good thing he's so cute"!
So I decided yesterday to consult with my 'Babywhisperer guru' friend, and see what she thought about the whole situation with Myles. Because like I said, I wasn't sure if it was infact still his ears, or separation anxiety, or that I had started bad habits. She helped me set up a plan, and told me it would be very rough for the next couple days, but I was determined to get my great sleeping boy(for the most part) back. Yesterday he didn't end up napping at all. When I got him up I kept things positive and we played. Dh got home early, and I headed into work and left him with detailed instructions for bedtime. Myles went to bed at 6:15 and fought for about 10 min. until he was out. He slept right through to 5:30! I was ok with 5:30 today, seeing as how early he went to bed. Today I stuck with the plan, and I am very happy to say that Myles is sleeping in his crib right now for his nap!!!! I know there will be a couple bumps over the next couple days, but I am just going to stay consistent and I am sure he will be right back on track.
Hope you all had good nights and days!!
Carrie
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Yeah for Myles (and you!) Glad to hear he slept through again for you and is napping for you in his crib. :D
Henry slept through last night - 7:50pm to 5:55am. :D I'm thinkiing it was the Zyrtec but who the heck knows?? He could breath so it was effective. And it didn't keep him up all night which is wonderful!
I took my paper in to school today (wooo-hooo!) and he fell asleep in the car - and I mean passed out! He was awake one minute. The next his eyes rolled back in his head and he was gone. I had to wake him when I got to school. Again, thinking it was the Zyrtec.
Of course, since he had a catnap at 9am, he didn't fall asleep as quickly for his nap but that's okay. He's asleep now so that's all that matters.
His fourth front upper tooth is through the skin. One of his molars - the upper right - is through, also. Maybe that's why he slept last night but again I don't really know.
I, of course, didn't sleep. I woke at 2am and laid there and waited for him to wake. Before this whole nonsense started I had finally gotten to the point where I was sleeping through, too but apparently I need some retraining, too! :D If he gets consistent again with sleeping through, I'm sure I'll get back there fairly quickly.
Have a great day everyone!
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Carrie- That's great that the plan is working! You must be so relieved!
Sarah- Glad that paper is done, and I'm glad Henry finally got some sleep! Now for your sleep retraining...Oh, and good that you finally see some teeth poking through Henry's gums. Hopefully you'll catch a break for awhile!
Tyler still seems to be shaking off his ear infection, he's been soooo tired lately. It's nice after his sleepless nights last week, but a little annoying because he's been pretty crabby when he's awake. And CLINGY. His new thing is burying his head in my butt while I'm standing or walking. :roll: If he's distracted playing, he doesn't care where I am, but if he's had enough alone time, the burrowing begins. If I sit on the floor, he HAS to climb all over me. He's never been much of a snuggler, so it's a little weird...must be a phase.
Happy napping!
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hi ladies
I will warn you ahead of time, I am having a really bad morning. Ethan is now starting his day at 5 or earlier. I can't do this anymore. I am so tired, and I can't fix it. I tried for an hour this morning to get him back to sleep. By the end we were both crying. He was crying so hard he kept choking on his spit. He wouldn't let me hold him, didn't want to be in his crib I am at such a loss. He only slept for 9 hours last night and I feel like such a horrible mother. I cannot help him sleep. I feel like I have been at this since he was born and it doesn't get better. My friends who nurse their babies to sleep or let them cry it out all have babies that sleep MUCH better than Ethan. I think for my next one I am going to do everything that i was afraid to do since the "good" stuff doesn't work anyway. I feel like giving up. How will I ever do one nap if he wakes this early? I just want to keep him up and never try to put him to sleep, let him fall asleep out of exhaustion on the living room floor if he has to. Or maybe I should put him to bed at 10 so that we can all wake at a more normal time.
Sorry guys but dh thinks I am crazy to worry about all of this and as I said my friends never understood what i was doing from the beginning either. I know you understand, it just sucks. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I hope you all had a better night than me. Sarah I don't know how you are doing this and going to law school. I can't do it and I am not doing anything else.
Jess
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Jess - I'm so sorry your having a bad day. Your post made me teary. I know exactly where you are coming from. There have been many days/nights/early mornings where both of us were in tears. We have had a lot of days that are just endless and exhausting, too.
It is not your fault that he isn't sleeping well. You haven't done anything wrong. You are a wonderful, loving mother.
I often think that I've done something wrong by rocking Henry to sleep but like you said to me before, some babies just don't sleep. It's not anything that you're doing or that I'm doing, we just have contrary little men who didn't read the books so they don't know what they're supposed to be doing.
Just so you know, there are babies out there who have been putting themselves to sleep since they were tiny who still wake at night (my niece is an example). There are babies who nurse to sleep, or have been rocked to sleep, who still wake at night (Henry is an example there). And I'm sure, although I don't know anyone who has done it, there are babies out there whose parents did CIO who still wake at night - the difference with them is they wake alone and cry alone with no parent to comfort them.
Sleep when he does today. Seriously, no excuses - TAKE A NAP!! If he needs a second nap but won't take it in his crib, take him for a car ride in the afternoon so he can take a catnap. And don't put him to bed late - from personal experience, all that does is make them wake more often and get up for the day either at the same time or even earlier, which means even less sleep.
I'm not a huggy person but . . . . .
{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}
I hope your day gets better. I'll be thinking of you.
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Sarah- Thanks so much for all of your support, it really means so much. Sometimes I feel like I have a split personality or something. One minute I have so much perspective and then next I have none. I know you know how frustrating that is. I just get so tired sometimes and that makes it so hard. I am preaching to the choir here huh?!
Dh and I know that we want to have two children and that we want them to be relatively close in age. But do any of you find yourself terrified of going through this again? I wonder how I will cope with him and a newborn at the same time. I don't think he is going to sleep well until he is teenager! :wink: It is really scary to me. Any of you feel similarly?
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Oh Jess!! I feel for you, I really do. It makes me crazy when Myles' sleep is completely off, and always blame myself thinking that I had to have done something wrong. I even stay away from here, as I get depressed and think I am the last person to be giving advice when I can't even get my own son to sleep. But, you know what tomorrow is another day, and trust me it has taken a looong time for me to have that attitude. You are an incredible mom, and Ethan is so lucky to have you. He's going through a rough time right now, but as long as you stay consistent, he will bounce back. Jane(Matthewsmommy) gave me a great article on how to help with the early wakings. I'll give her a call and have her send you a copy. So as hard as it may be, try and take care of yourself and stay positive, as babies can sense tension and often your anxiety will rub off on them. Remember we are all here for you, and we all know what you are going through, and I promise you it will get better!
As for having another, I understand. Dh and I have decided that there is a 99% chance that we won't have another child. There are lots of reasons, but mainly because my delivery was absolutely terrible, and the recovery was very long. I also had some ppd, and found the first 6 months unbearable at times. The thought of going through that all over again terrifies me like you wouldn't believe. It's funny because people always say "Oh you'll forget", but you know what I haven't and it is still very clear in my mind. As well my dh is older, and I am finally starting to feel like myself again and am enjoying motherhood. People may think we are being selfish, but they can think what they want, because we are happy with our little family the way it is. Don't think that I am in any way trying to dissuade anyone from having another, as I look on in amazement at women with more than one, just I personally can't do it. With all that being said, who knows maybe in another year or two I may feel differently, but the chances of that are pretty slim.
Anways, sorry to ramble on :oops: . Things here seem to be settling back down to normal with Myles. He didn't nap that long yesterday, but went to bed at 6:30 and slept through until 6, and is napping now.
Hope you ladies all have great days!
Carrie
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Hey Jess -
We plan to have another but the thought scares the he!! out of me! I love Henry more than the air I breath. I'm worried that having another will take away from him. But I also tend to be WAY OCD (can you tell?). I'm concerned that it won't be good for either Henry or me to have just one. I'm torn. KWIM?
I am also concerned that considering Henry doesn't sleep through yet, with a new baby I'll get no sleep at all - that they'll tag team me and I'll be up all night.
But I feel like there is another baby there that needs to be born. So that's the plan for now. Like Carrie, though, I may change my mind. We'll see.
How is napping going for you today? Hope all is well with you.
Happy napping, all.
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Last night was the worst night in recorded history for my little man Henry. First of all, although we started bedtime routine at 7pm, as always, he did not go to sleep until 9pm. Then he woke for about 30 seconds at 12:10am (slept right through the local fireworks - yeah for Henry!!). Then he woke at 1:25am and did not go back to sleep until 4:35am. I am not kidding - he was awake for over three hours last night. He woke for the day at 6:45 so he got a whopping 6 hours and 30 minutes of sleep last night. Add his almost 3 hours of nap yesterday and he's at 9 hours and 30 minutes for the entire day - not just the night! Blah!!!
I have no idea why he wouldn't sleep last night. He was tired - kept yawning - but refused to go to sleep. I finally gave him Tylenol out of desperation because I didn't know what else to do. He fell asleep about 30 minutes after that so maybe it was his teeth.
How are you ever supposed to know what's waking them or keeping them up? They can't tell you. Unless it's crystal clear - like vomiting - how are you supposed to know? In other words, how are you supposed to fix it if you can't figure out the cause????
Jess - How did Ethan nap for you yesterday?
Hope all of you had better nights than us!!
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OMG Sarah will you please tell Henry and Ethan to stop calling eachother and plotting against us!!!! Ethan was up at the exact same time!!!! 1:30 until 4:20 I couldn't believe it! HE woke for the day at 6:30. The only difference was that he was asleep by 7. He did nap yesterday for almmost 3 hours so that was fantastic. Let's hope all four of us get some rest today and tonight!
I understand both of you completely with the second baby thing. It is such a hard decision. I know i want 2 but it is really scary as I said before. Maybe I will just end out pregnant and then I won't have to stress about timing :wink:
I am off to nap. ahhh ethan broke myspace bar and this is a painful process!
Jess
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Jess - That's so not funny and so funny at the same time!!
I think dh was adding to the problem last night. He kept engaging Henry by telling him to stop it or close his eyes and go to sleep or something like that. When he did, Henry would say, "No no," or "night, night", whatever was an appropriate response. I finally took over again just so dh would stop talking to him!!! :twisted:
He fought me for his nap, too. He was basically screaming crying. I gave him Tylenol yet again. If this continues, he's going to the doctor on Monday. The whole screaming crying thing is just not normal.
Also, he was supposed to go into his own room tonight but after last night, I'm not moving him today. If he sleeps better tonight, he can go tomorrow night.
Happy napping and nighttime sleep to all!!!
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That's terrible that you both had bad nights!
Sarah- I was going to ask, as I thought this was the weekend you were moving Henry to his own room. Do you have it set-up? Has he spent anytime in there yet to kind of prepare him for it? It will be a big adjustment for all of you, but it will be sooo much better for you all in the long run.
Things continue to be going well around here. Myles napped yesterday for over 2 hours, then went to bed at 7 and slept through until just after 6am. He's napping right now, and so far has been down for an hour and a half.
I really hope you both have better days today and nights tonight!
Carrie
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His room is all set up but for his crib. He loves it in there. He cries to go in there. :D
I figure once we get his crib in there, I'll let him spend some time in his crib in the room just to get the idea. I plan to sleep in there with him (in the room, not the crib) for the first few nights just so he's comfortable. Then I'll start working my way out. Any suggestions about how to do that?
Glad to hear things are going so well for you, Carrie. I'm jealous, though. Wish Henry could/would sleep like that!!
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I plan to sleep in there with him (in the room, not the crib) for the first few nights just so he's comfortable. Then I'll start working my way out. Any suggestions about how to do that?
I think I remember reading in one of Tracy's books that you just move yourself closer and closer to the door. Ideally, I think she suggested using an air mattress, and gradually scoot closer to the door until you're in the hallway. Obviously, it can take a few weeks, but he might surprise you and not even notice whether you're there or not!
Also, I may be crazy, but I wonder what would happen if you just went ahead with the crib transfer plan without waiting until Henry has a good night? If he's up at night now anyway, and you expect that he'll be up just as much when you move him, if not more...KWIM? Just a thought!
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He's already sleeping in our room (Yeah that he's asleep!!!) so it's not going to happen tonight. But if he has even a relatively decent night tonight - and I'm not talking perfect but only relatively decent - he's going into his own room tomorrow.
Thanks for the info, Melissa. I'm sure I'll keep you all informed about how it's going.
Happy sleeping to all!
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It's official - I think he's forgotten how to get himself back to sleep. He was awake 4 times last night each for about 30 seconds. It's great that he goes back to sleep so quickly (usually) but it sucks that I have to be up so much to get him back to sleep.
Overall he slept well last night so he is going into his own room today. After he adjusts, I think I'm going to start sleep teaching using pd. Any suggestions on how long I should wait to start? I'm out of school until 8-25 so I have a good 7 weeks before I have to be able to really think again.
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Wow Sarah, it will be a big day for you today!! I would even start by having him nap in there today, and see how that goes.
This will be very hard and I am sure there will be alot of crying involved, but only because you are changing how and where he is going to sleep for the first time in 17 months. So he is going to be confused and protest, and crying is his way of communicating that to you. The most important thing though is to stay consistent. I'm sure you will feel at times that this is not working and want to just bring him back in your room, but if you do you're just going to make it harder in the long run. I agree that staying in his room will help with the transition, and you'll want to make it an easy slow transition, for his benefit and yours.
To be honest I don't have much experience with this, but I will contact Jane (Matthews Mommy), and I am sure that she could help you with a plan.
Don't forget we are all here for you and cheering you on!!!!
Myles had another great day and night, napped for 2 and a half hours, and slept through 7-6!
Carrie
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Carrie - Thanks for the advice. I think I'm going to continue rocking him to sleep until 7/27. That's two and a half weeks to let him get used to his room plus it's a Wednesday so he'll be out of daycare until the following Monday so it will give us a little time to get past the initial hard days. If he starts sleeping better, though, I may change my mind. I really do love rocking him to sleep.
He's is in his room right now sleeping. He fought it a little - no tinfoil on the windows so he could see the light, plus he could see Cow and Bear, and he could see the humidifier, all of which he had to tell me about while spitting out binky after binky. :roll: But he fell asleep by 8pm, which is really pretty good. I'm going to sleep in there tonight and see how things go.
You know, in all of this, I never told you all that dh snores like a chainsaw. When he lays on his back, he actually blows raspberries in his sleep. :shock: I don't know if that has anything to do with Henry's sleeping issues but I guess we'll find out, eh?
Wishing you all a good night!!!
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I'm so excited that Henry's sleeping in his new room! I hope it's a quiet night...for EVERYONE!!!
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Good luck tonight Sarah!! I'll be anxious to hear how he did tomorrow!!!!
Carrie
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Sarah
I can't wait to hear how Henry did in his own room. I am sure it is exciting and terrifying at the same time. Just as Carrie said we are all here cheering you on! You will all be much better off in the long run, so hang in there!! :D
Melissa- How is Tyler feeling?
Carrie- SO wonderful that Myles is sleeping so well!!!! YOu must feel fantastic!!
Jess
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Last night sucked. :cry:
He woke once for 30 seconds at 10:50pm. I didn't fall asleep until after 12:00am - that bed is extremely uncomfortable. (I won't be in there for long because of that.) He woke again at 2:50am so slept for 4 hours in a row which is better than he did the night before. But he was awake for 2.5 hours. It was almost 6am before I was able to put him back down again. He slept in though - 7:10am.
And, on a much more positive note, I KNOW he can still get himself back to sleep. He woke at 10:20pm and grizzled for a minute, found his binky and went back to sleep. He woke at 12:00am and actually stood up crying but before I reacted, he found his binky, laid back down and went back to sleep. So that's good. I KNOW he's still capable.
I got a whopping 3 hours of sleep but dh took Henry this am and fed him breakfast so I could sleep a little more. Hopefully tonight will be better.
Thanks so much for the support. It means so much to me.
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Sarah, I know last night sucked, but I was worried it would be sooooo much worse! And now you know that he can still put himself back to sleep, so there's one less mountain to climb. How many binkies do you keep in his crib? Do you think he might be having trouble finding them?
Jess, I hope things are looking up for you. I know you've had a rough few days and you were getting frustrated for awhile there.
Carrie, yay for Myles! I'm so glad you guys are getting some rest.
Tyler finished up his ear infection meds, and is feeling lots better. He had his 18 mo visit on Fri, and the infection is gone, so he's healthy again. However, he's cutting another one of his eyeteeth and it's giving him a hard time. He woke up bawling every 10 min from 6AM to 715 yesterday. Poor kid. :cry:
Happy napping!
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Sarah- That's not too bad for the first night! As for waking in the night like that, and being up for almost 2hours, are you rocking him that whole time?
Jess- How is Ethan doing these days?
Melissa- I'm so glad to hear that Tyler is feeling better! Myles finished up his medication today, and is doing sooo much better. He's completely back on track, and napping and sleeping great at night, for right now at least!
Hope everyone has great days!
Carrie
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Carrie - Yup, rocking him the entire time. He was writhing and screaming last night again. I don't think it was being in his own room - I think it was probably teeth but I could be wrong.
Melissa - I only keep one binky in there because when he finds more than one, he wakes me up to show me. :roll: He gets so excited about there being more than one binky he just has to tell me. He holds the extra one (or however many) out to me and says, "Bnky!!" around the binky already in his mouth. Actually, now that I think about it, last night at 10:50pm, he had two in there. He was laying on one so I put another in there where he could find it. But both were under his blanket so he couldn't find them anyways.
Glad to hear both your boys are back on track!!
Jess - We haven't heard about Ethan's sleep in a couple of days. How are things going for you?
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Hey ladies,
I hope that Henry had a better night last night and of course that you did too Sarah. Maybe if your dh isn't sawing logs Henry might not be disturbed as much :lol:
Well I haven't written much about Ethan's sleep because honestly it has been so horrible that it is depressing to write about it. Last night he got a total of about 7 hours sleep, I got way less than that. I am just really tired. His runny nose is getting worse so maybe it isn't just the molars that are causing the drip, maybe he is getting a cold too. I am hanging in there, surviving :roll: I am getting a massage this week on Friday so that is the highlight of my sleep deprived week :D
Talk to you soon :D
Jess
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We should exchange numbers so we can talk in the middle of the night when the rest of the civilized world is sleeping!!
All kidding aside, I'm sorry things are so rough right now. Have you taken him to the doctor to have his ears checked recently? That might be the root of the problem. Also, watch decongestants. Henry reacts with even less sleep if we give him pseudoephedrine or Benedryl. He did okay once with Zyrtec.
Last night was worse than the night before. We tried a new nightlight that completely scared the pants off my little man. He went to sleep okay but then woke screaming about an hour later - before I had even gone to bed. He would not relax until dh switched the scary nightlight for a much less scary one. Even then, he was up for 1.5 hours. I finally got to bed about midnight. He woke again at 4:15 for about 10 minutes, then up for the day at 5:30am. Another night of about 4 hours of sleep for me. He got about 8.25. Blah!
Oh well, today is another day and tonight is another night. Hopefully things will be better for both of us tonight, Jess.
~~~~sleep vibes coming your way~~~~
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Jess, I wish I could say something to make you feel better! I'm so sorry you and Ethan are having such a rough time. Please keep your chin up...or as my dad always used to say, "Buck up, little camper!" :D
Sarah, I can't believe Henry wakes up to show you binkies! Don't you HATE those things sometimes???? Every time I hear the "thump, thump, thump" that is 3 binkies being tossed overboard, I grit my teeth and swear that one of these days, those things are gonna go. Of course, I'm full of it...he'll probably have them until he's 15.
Sleep....sleep...sleep...
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hehe.. Sarah, I posted under your other thread!
When you mentioned that he woke up for 30 seconds.. that's actually normal. Most children (and adults)wake up briefly throughout the night. When he does this, what usually happens?
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Jane - It's more like 5 minutes but compared to 2-3.5 hours, it seems like 30 seconds. When he wakes, he cries out, stands up in bed and wakes me. I pick him up and rock him for a few minutes, then lay him down again. I'll say it again - I KNOW he can self-settle. He just did it for me two nights ago.
Last night was the worst in his new room yet. He was up at 8:45pm (screaming crying), 11:50pm, 1:30am, 3:00am, and 5:50am. The 3:00am was a doozy - did not want to be put down. I finally had dh come in at 3:45am and take over because I was having a break down - tears, the works. :cry: He slept in, though, until almost 7am!!
I gave him Tylenol last night before bed. It seems like the wakings are more frequent when I've given him Tylenol. Is that reasonable?
Hope things went better for you last night, Jess. Hope things are continuing to go well for Carrie and Melissa.
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Jane - I feel like I owe you an apology for my last post. I know you think rocking Henry to sleep is causing his nightwakings but I'm still not sure I agree. I do question it every day and am on the verge of doing something about it - I'm just not there yet. Still.
I'm having a really bad day. I'm so tired I can barely see. I don't do well on little sleep and lasta night was the third night in a row that I've gotten less than 4 hours of sleep. I feel like I've done something terribly wrong in parenting Henry to make him sleep (or not) like this. But then I think about his cousin who has been going to sleep on her own since she was 8 weeks old and STILL at 4 years old wakes during the night and needs her parents. I'm inclined to believe that some babies just don't sleep through without parental intervention until much later. But that may be just to ease my guilt over rocking Henry to sleep - for causing his problems.
Oh - I forgot to mention, dh informed me that Henry had poopy pants this am. He does not sleep well when he has poopy pants - can't say I blame him for that one. Dh said it looked old. So maybe that's why Henry didn't sleep well last night. Again, maybe that's just an excuse to ease my guilt.
Thanks for all your help everyone. No one "listens" the way BWs do.
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Sarah, I'm not the huggy type, but I'm sending you one anyway. I don't know how you do it...you're such an amazing mom to Henry, and you somehow manage to balance law school on top of that. Your strength and determination never cease to amaze me!
I wish I could fix it for you. :cry: Please hang in there!
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Sarah- I second everything that Melissa said!! Have you attempted leaving his room yet? Or only rocking him until he is drowsy and then putting him down? You may want to do PU/PD for his nightwakings. Once he realizes that you aren't going to spend all that time rocking him when he wakes, he may stop?
I don't know, just some thoughts?
Carrie
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Last night was not as bad although he got less sleep than the other nights since he's been in his own room. He only woke twice but each time was for 1.5 hours. The second time it was like someone gave him speed. He was soooo wired!!! I have no idea what was going on there.
I was looking at his sleep log today. He slept through more nights than not for the months of March and April and for half of May. For the rest of May and half of June, he was sleeping through maybe 2-3 nights a week. Since June 9, he's slept through 2-3 times total. Nothing changed to cause the nightwakings. However, since June 9, he's been working on his molars, he went to one nap and now he's in his own room. I think I just need to give him some time to adjust to all the changes (and for the teeth to come in) and hopefully it will go back to where he was before.
I haven't left his room yet because I think, in all of this, he's going through some separation anxiety. I left his room twice last night while he was awake to go to the bathroom and both times he completely lost it.
I also haven't tried putting him down awake yet becuase I think he's going through enough changes right now. I don't want to add another until he adapts somewhat to what he already has going on. I'll deal with the rocking to sleep later.
I'm done complaining about Henry's sleep. It is what it is. I'm not doing anything wrong. He's just got some things going on that we need to get through. I know we can get back to sleeping through - it's just a question of when.
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Hey Ladies -
I reread my post and am concerned I will come across as ungrateful. I want you all to know how grateful I am - more than words can tell you. It makes it so much easier to deal with when I have people who understand what I'm going through.
In fact, when I decide to work through the rocking to sleep, I'm going to need your support again. I hope you'll all be there for me - like I hope I can be there for all of you if and when you need me.
Thank you again.
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WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU!!!!
I don't think you sound ungrateful, hon. You're exhausted, and we all know that. Stop worrying!
Sleeeeep, little Henry...sleeeeep...
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Sarah you don't sound ungrateful at all!!! You sound like me when I have had it...you sound tired!!!! We will continue to be here for you don't worry one bit!
We are still not living in the "land of nod" here. We live in the "land of endless nights" right now. Hang in there!!! You aren't alone! Keep smiling and lovin' on that little cutie pie of yours and take naps whenever you can.
Oh and I think Ethan logged on and read my message about never ( I mean NEVER) having a baby that liked to be rocked to sleep. Well he thinks that that is the best way to go to sleep now. In a weird way I love it but I know that I am really creating a bad habit. It must be b/c he is sick. Oh I never told you all, I finally took Ethan to the ped the other day and my poor boy had a list of things bothering him. He has an ear infection ( first one ever and I had no idea and no signs other than the sleep), he is getting four molars (but lucky lucky the may take up to another month or so to come in) he has a slight cold and is having some kind of allergic reaction on his feet to our rug (i thougt it was dry skin and was moisturizing it). So it explains why his sleep has fallen apart. I feel really bad about the ear, but he is so happy all day! He doesn't show any signs that it is even bothering him. :oops:
I have to go give him some breakfast. Have a great day everyone,
Jess
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Sarah- I really am sorry if you were offended by the suggestions I made. I honestly was just throwing some thoughts out there. When it all comes down to it, you know Henry better than anyone in this world. You can read all the books and receive all the best advice, but you are still dealing with a little human being with individual thoughts, feelings , and needs, and this is where mother's intuition and the bond between parent and child, will give you the 'answer' more so than the one written in black and white. Does that make sense? Anyways, Sarah I think you are an incredible person and amazing mother, and as long as you follow your gut and do what you think is best, everything will work itself out.
I wish you the best.
Carrie
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Jess, maybe once the meds kick in for Ethan's ear infection, things will improve. Can't believe he suddenly loves being rocked to sleep! Sarah and I have often accused Tyler and Henry of logging on and sharing new ways to drive us bonkers...I guess Ethan's a co-conspirator now too! I hope he feels better soon, at least he's in a good mood today.
Tyler gets his 18 mo shots today. He's in a rotten mood anyway, so at least I don't have to worry about turning him into a grouch the rest of the day. :roll:
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Jess- Ear infections are the worst! Myles' sleep completely fell apart, and as well that was my only sign. Within a couple days of the medication taking effect, he was sooo much better. It was a rough couple days getting him back on track, as he decided he preferred falling asleep watching a video cuddling on my bed with me :oops: ! But, he is back in his crib and sleeping great. Poor little Ethan though, I feel for you both!
Melissa- Good luck with the 18 month shots today. Myles' seemed fine with his. It is so heartbreaking though, especially because they are not expecting it, then all of a sudden.....! Let us know how he makes out.
I took Myles for his first haircut yesterday :cry: . It was soo long, and it's been so hot here lately. I didn't go real short, so it's still really curly, but at least it's out of his eyes now. He was not very happy about it though!
I hope you all have great days!
Carrie
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Carrie - I absolutely was not offended by your suggestions at all. I'm so sorry if it came across that way. I am just so tired and exasperated. I just don't know what to do anymore. I really appreciate your suggestions - I just don't feel like I can impliment them right now. BUT . .
I told Henry last night - actually it was at 3am, his 5th wake up of the night - that he was leaving me no choice. I don't want to sleep train him but I'm afraid that's the only choice I have left. He woke up hourly last night after 11pm. I finally broke down and gave him Tylenol at 2:30. Although it took him an 1.5 hours to fall asleep again, that time he actually slept until 6:15am. I'm going to try Motrin again before bed tonight and just see if anything is better. Wish me (us) luck.
Jess - I'm so sorry Ethan is sick. Hopefully when his meds kick in he'll sleep a little better for you. And I'm sorry his molars are coming in. Hopefully they won't be too much trouble for you. Do what you need to right now to help him feel better. Deal with the consequences later.
Melissa - Luckily, Henry isn't having an 18 month check up. His ped does 15 months, then not again until 2 years. Unless I decide to get his MMR jab between now and then or he gets sick between now and then, he's done with the doctor for another 6 months!
Carrie - One more thing. Did you take photos of Myles' first haircut? I'd love to see them!!
Hope you all have great days.
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Sorry to butt in :?
Sarah - I too was in your position a couple of mths ago
Khyan was in our bedroom, we were up ALL the time, I was rocking to sleep, molars were coming in a mile a minute, Khyan was feeding all through the night and things were generally not as we would like :shock:
We moved Khyan down to his own room (hard at the time - but well worth it now) saying this I still have a bed available for his room within access for those HORRIBLE nights.
The rocking to sleep - well we just slowly started to put him in his cot more awake (well drowsy really) and kinda rocked him in the cot - not the easiest thing, and he still doesn't go into the cot WIDE awake instead we still hold him till drowsy and then into the cot, and if he lets us we put our hand on him till he stops whinging.
Seriously you need to be ready in yourself to do this (it took me at least 3 mths of revving myself up for sleeptraining) - it can be really hard work, however really worth while but at least 3 nights of sleepless night (not that this is any different to what you are experiencing at the moment)
We had to ride out the molars and just keep up with the pain relief and even though he could self settle normally in the night we still needed to help him.
I truly thought that I would NEVER sleep again :shock: and then the molars popped thru and well he just seemed to say "OHHHH this is what you wanted me to do - well I can do this cos I'm not in any pain"
I really do understand that being just too tired and spending just way too long in that rocking chair, or pattting thru the bars in the cot crying your eyes out (in my case) - It gets you down and warps your daily thinking (no offense to you - just my personal case)
Things will get better, more than likely more permantly after Henry's molars break thru
You are a fantastic mum - go treat yourself to a freddo frog you sure do deserve it :D
Huge hugs xx
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go treat yourself to a freddo frog you sure do deserve it :D
What the heck is that?? :D If it's chocolate, I'm there!
Thanks for the input. The move to his room has not been easy but we're slogging through. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to start sleep training 7/27 but we'll see what happens between now and then.
I just want my good sleeper back. He was doing so well.
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Yep chocolate thru and thru - YUUUUMMMM !
It's hard work - I know !
Just remember that we are all here for you
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Thanks for asking about freddo frog, Sarah...that was going to be my first question! Is that an Aussie thing?
Michaela, I hadn't seen you around and I'd been wondering how Khyan was doing. I know you went through an awful spell there, and I was hoping that things had improved. I'm so, so happy that they have! Yay for Khyan!
Tyler's shots were fine, he's such a tough kid. Just 2 jabs, and now we're done until kindergarten! It helped that he had his binky and leelee (that weird plastic lizard he's in love with..."Leelee, MWAH!" :roll: ), and while he was laying down for the shots, I was almost laying on top of him to hold his arms. While I was restraining him, I just kept talking and smooching his little cheeks and telling him mommy's here. He yelled for a minute, but no tears!
Happy napping!
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Melissa - What a tough little man!! Glad it went well. What shots did he get? Has he had his MMR jab? Did he have any reaction to it?
I have a question for you (all) - As you know, Henry is down to one nap. However, that nap is 2-3 hours long, usually closer to 3. Is it possible that his nap is too long? If he's sleeping 3 hours during the day, he really only needs 9-9.5 hours of night sleep to get the daily quota where he functions best. Should I wake him at 2 hours?
TIA!
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Freddo frogs must be an Aussie thing - I had no idea that only we had them :?
They are chocolate frogs and can be milk, white chocolate and can be filled with strawberry , peppermint yummy stuff, rainbow frogs, or honeycomb chip - and many other flavours that I can't think of at the moment...MMmmmmmm I think I might have to treat myself today :wink:
Chocolate frogs are kinda like a pat on the back "give yourself a pat on the back or here you deserve a chocolate frog" :wink: :D
Melissa - Things have been hectic here with Khyan having gastro, horrible nappy rash and now an ear infection :shock:
But all in all things are still better than the molar period and Khyan is pretty much sleeping thru - even with his illnesses. I still LOL every time you mention or I think about "leelee" - what a little cutie your boy is.
Sarah - I have to admit that when Khyan sleeps anymore than 1.5 - 2hrs that his night time sleep is disturbed - normally starts thoses early wakings again. :roll: unless ofcourse he is REALLY unwell and then he just can't get enough sleep. But I know other kids the same age who sleep 3 - 4 hours in the day and then all thru the night so I guess its different for each child. What I did was try it and see what happened, however saying this I don't know what Henry is like but if I wake Khyan - he is not a happy chappy. I also find that he does better on an earlier nap and more time awake before going to bed for the night, but not too much time or otherwise we get multiple night wakings :cry: Its so hard to get it correct, but as soon as I stopped worrying about it so much and resigned myself to being awaking FOREVER, he just seemed to settle down maybe because I had stopped listening to what he needed and was frantically trying to fix the problems. When I GAVE UP he showed me what works best for him. :D
Freddo frogs for everyone :D - well what ever you can find that gives you that same kind of feeling. :wink:
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I bought myself some Godiva yesterday. Not a frog but YUMMMY all the same! I did one day of trying to do WW points again and gave up - I'm just too tired right now!
I may try a shorter (and maybe earlier) nap and see what happens. I can't do pu/pd right now because I sprained my back (went to the ER and everything for it) so I can't even pick Henry up at all, let alone do sleep training.
~~~~sleep vibes to everyone~~~~
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I honestly did not think it could get any worse. Boy, was I wrong. Its only getting worse. 7 times last night - 10pm, 11pm, 1am, 2am, 3am, 5am, and 6am. He woke for the day when I layed him down at 6:15am.
I'm done. I thought I was going to wait another week or so to start sleep training but I can't do this anymore. I'm going to read Tracy's book and post for specific advice. I believe I'm going to start tomorrow night. My back is feeling okay as long as I don't pick Henry up from the floor - I can pick him up out of his crib with no problem, as I discovered 7 times last night.
Someone please promise me it will make it better, not just even more worse (poor English but appropriate sentiment) than it already is???
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I remember starting sleep training with Khyan after a horrible few nights like you're describing and although it was hard work - it was worth it !
I would probably expect not to get much or any sleep the first few nights -not that this makes it any different from your normal nights at the moment.
Just keep reminding yourself that even though it is hard that in a couple of weeks things will be easier and that you would have taught little Henry a wonderful new skill :D and that the whole household will be SOOOO much happier for it.
I found that Khyan was really stimulated by the PU part and that I was heaps better off by leaning as far in the cot as possible and kinda cradling him the best I could and whispering aaaahhhhh into his ear. When he got really upset I would say my aaaaahhhh louder than his scream :? Yep I was pretty much screaming along side him but once he heard it, he was sort of shocked and he would calm somewhat. If he was REALLY upset then I would pick him up and hold him till he completely calmed down and then would lay him down and start all over until he fell asleep.
Once you start you will find little things that make it easier on Henry and you.
GOODLUCK
We are here for you EVERY step of the way.
You can do this xx
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Sarah,
I am sending you a billion {{{{{HUGS}}}}}}, right now!
I know you're feeling that it is time right now to make changes, and I totally support you. It will be very hard, and crying I am sure on both your parts, but sooooo worth it. It is the best feeling in the world being able to just put Myles in his crib when it's naptime and bedtime, and then that's it. It is one of the best lessons to teach your child, how to fall asleep independently. The most important thing will be to stay consistent, and that once you start that you see it through until the end.
This is such a trying age, as I just first handedly experienced a couple weeks back. They are testing, and that is normal developmental stuff. But then it got to the point where I was like "ok who's the parent here and in charge". Don't get me wrong, when he was sick it was a different story, but it was then realizing he was better and getting him back on track. It was so hard for me to hear him cry out of frustration, and those couple days felt like forever, but we got through it and survived and are both much happier.
Start be deciding what you are going to do and stick to it. Maybe ask Khyan's mum how they did it, and hopefully she could help with a plan.
I am thinking of you my friend!
Oh, and thank-you for the pm, I tried responding but it wouldn't let me!
Carrie
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Sarah-
I'm with you all the way! It will be hard work, but you'll be sooo glad when it's over. Just out of curiosity, do you have Tracy's toddler book AND the new one? In the new book, she introduces using PD instead of PU/PD. If it's appropriate for Henry's situation, it may be a little easier on your back to avoid lifting the little chunker as much as possible.
YOU CAN DO IT!!! Now go eat some chocolate!
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Hi everyone!
Sarah- You can do this!! I have been keeping up with what is going on but I just haven't had the time to post. Thanks also for your pm but I couldn't reply either.
Ethan turned 1 yesterday and we had a great day!! His sleep is still a mess. He started his day at 4:45 today, but I had gone to bed at 8 (i was sooo tired) so at least I had some sleep.
I will write more later today or tomorrow. Have a great day!!
Jess
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Jess - Ethan is SOOOO cute!!!!! Looks like you all had a great day!
Thanks for the encouragement from all of you! I will keep you informed as to how it's going.
I actually got the reply pm's. When you get the "debug mode" msg, the post or pm still goes through even though it doesn't look like it. FYI.
Oh - Henry has a 4pm appt with his ped just to assure me he doesn't have something wonky going on causing all this. Assuming I get the all clear, tonights the night. Blah! Not looking forward to this.
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Jess- Ethan is absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!! It looks like he had a good time on his birthday. It sounds like he's doing a bit better, hopefully he continues to improve!
Sarah- How did the first night go? I was sooooo thinking of you both!
Carrie
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Hey Carrie - First night went okay. I gave him Zyrtec on peds recommendation to make it easier for him to fall asleep (and stay asleep). I did not make it out of the room before he fell asleep because he was screaming hysterical every time I tried to leave but he fell asleep in his crib at bedtime for the first time ever. It only took 40 minutes. I plan to stay by his crib for three nights, then sit on the ottoman for three nights, then sit by the door for three nights, then I'll attempt to leave the room.
He woke 4 or 5 times throughout the night but I didn't have to go in. He put himself back to sleep every time. He woke for the day at 6am, which is too early but considering he "slept through", it's okay for the first day!
So that's that. :D
Jess - How are things going with you??
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Sarah- That is AMAZING for the first night!!!!!!! Way to go! I am soooo happy for you that it went that well, and that he put himself back to sleep himself through the night as well without your help. Keep it up, and keep us posted.
Carrie
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This is cut and pasted from my post under "Staring pu/pd with 17 month old" because I didn't want to have to type the whole thing over again but wanted your input . . .
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Tonight was definitely not as good as last night. :cry: It was really, really, really hard to resist just giving in and rocking him because I wasn't sure of what I was doing.
As I decided to do last night, I was leaning over his crib waiting for him to fall asleep. He decided he wanted to touch me. When he would stand to touch me, I would back up. After 45 minutes, I decided I was tired of standing there so sat on the ottoman. He then decided it would be fun to throw his binkies out over and over again. I was waiting until he cried to get them. When I would get them, he would lay down laughing as I handed him his binkies.
So, I made a decision that I was not going to stay in the room with him while he played. So I left. He screamed and cried. I counted to 5 or 10, went back in, layed him down and left again. I did this over and over and over again until he stopped crying. (Is this controlled crying? Or, because I was only out 5-10 seconds, is it more the BW way? I don't want to do controlled crying. I don't want to break his trust. I want him to know I'm there if he needs me but I won't cave in to his every whim.)
It took an hour and 45 minutes to get him to go to sleep. I think part of the reason it took so long because I didn't start until he'd been in bed for almost an hour and because 3 times I stayed in the room with him after he calmed down. He then decided it was time to play again so I had to start all over with the leaving. Once I made my mind up that I was not going to stay in there after laying him down again, it only took about 10-15 minutes for him to fall asleep.
And all of this is including the Zyrtec. I can't even imagine how bad it would have been without the Zyrtec!! But, he fell asleep without me in the room for the first time in his entire life!! That's huge!!
Revised plan yet again - tomorrow night, doing bedtime routine, then laying him down and out the door I go. I will go back in as many times as necessary to assure him I will come when he needs me but to prove to him that I WILL NOT ROCK HIM ANYMORE!
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Goodmorning!
Sarah you are doing such a great job. In my opinion what you did wasn't controlled cying. You only stayed out a few seconds and in doing that you were teaching him the new routine so to speak. He is gettting used to you putting him in bed and then you leaving. That is such a huge step for both of you. I know this will pay off in the long run. I had to do this with Ethan at 7 months, because he started to really fight bedtime and want to play. I was in there forever before he fell asleep. So dh and I did it together and in about a week he was going to sleep completely on his own. He would roll around and play and then fall asleep with no intervention from us. Then all of this sick business started and he needed me in there, that is when he decided about a week and a half ago that he wanted to be held or rocked to sleep. I gave in and now that he is getting better I am having to go through a mini version of what you are doing. I can only imagine how hard it is for you, I want to pick him up so badly and i had only been doing this for a week! So given your circumstances you are doing amazingly and so is Henry. He fell asleep without you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is such a huge milestone for you! Keep plugging away! You are teaching him such a valuable lesson, that your whole family will benefit from.
We are doing pretty well here. Just hot!! It has been in the 90's all week so we have been at the beach or in the pool most days. He is trying so hard to walk. He won't let go of my one hand yet b ut he is so close! It is so cute to me. As for his sleep, the past nights have been pretty good. The bedtime stuff I explained already, and when he wakes he is taking less time to settle. He even slept until 6:10 this morning from 8pm, so that was a huge treat. He only woke twice last night and they were both really brief.
Keep it up Sarah!!! You can do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jess
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Thanks for your words of encouragement, Jess. I'm glad things are going better for you. I'm glad Ethan is feeling better, too!
Henry woke only once last night at 1:40am. I had to go in and out for about 5 minutes and then he settled - or so I thought. He started crying again at 2am. I had to go in and out for 30 minutes before he settled again but it was only 30 minutes. He fell asleep again without me in the room.
However, this morning his little eyes are all swollen and red. His little knees are all red and chapped from kneeling every time I walked in. He cried and cried and cried last night. I had to wipe his nose a couple of times because there was so much snot. I feel terrible. I feel like such a horrible mother doing this to my baby. I did pick him up twice last night because he was crying so hard. It hurt to feel his little baby body in my arms and then have to put him down. :cry:
I know I'm doing this for a reason. I know it's better for both of us if he goes to sleep on his own. I keep telling myself that to make it easier.
Here's hoping tonight is better than last night.
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Hey Sarah,
I'm going to pm you.
Carrie
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Don't worry, you aren't doing controlled crying. The difference is that you aren't gradually increasing the allowed crying time in hopes he'll just give up. You're doing great!
I know it's hard. It sucks to see Henry having such a hard time, but remember that he's already making progress!! Only 1 night waking, it was waaay less than 2 or 3 hrs, and he's falling asleep without you in the room!
Hang in there...I know you have doubts, but you are doing the right thing!
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Our bedtime routine consists of bath, lotion, pj's, teeth, nurse, in sleeping bag, a short rock in the rocking chair, then into bed.
Tonight, as I stood up from the rocking chair, Henry started to cry. I thought for sure I was in for a LONG night. I said, "Night-night. Mama loves you," and walked out. I counted to 5 and went back in. Still crying. Walked out, counted to 5 and went back in. He stopped crying, started playing with his binkies and I haven't heard from him since. Twice in and out, two minutes total. :shock: :shock: :shock:
I think he's still awake 'cause I can hear him in there knocking his binkies together. Makes me crazy that I won't know when he falls asleep - I tend to be OCD about how much sleep he's getting. But I'm not going in unless he's crying.
Here's hoping he sleeps through the night! Send sleepy vibes our way.
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Sarah, I think it's great what you and Henry are doing!!!
SLEEPY VIBES sent your way!!!
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NO WAY!!! I don't believe it! Henry's doing so great!
I used to be with you on the whole OCD sleep thing. When Tyler decided he didn't want to be rocked to sleep anymore, that was the end of that. I made the mistake a few times of peeking in to see if he was asleep...don't do it! He was almost always laying there quietly, probably about to fall asleep, and he sat up and cried each time he saw me. Oops. :oops:
Sleeeeeeep Henry....sleeeeeeep.....
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I checked on him at 3am when I hadn't heard anything from him so far! He was sound asleep on his tummy with his head resting on "Bear" and with his arms and legs all tucked up under him - he looked like one of those Anne Geddes babies. Too cute!!!
He woke at 4:55am for about 30 seconds. He cried so I went in and layed him down again. He found his binkies and was out until 6:35am. Woo-hoo!!!
Here's hoping (praying, please God, please let it continue) that it goes well tonight!!
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He cried again tonight as I was laying him down in his crib. I walked out and back in ONCE!!! :shock: That's it. He stopped crying as soon as I laid him down and gave him his binkies. Woo-hoo!! :D
Now let's hope he sleeps through the night!
Thanks again for all of your help. Henry and I would not be where we are today without all of you.
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I'm THRILLED to hear he is doing so well!!!
I am sooo happy for you both!!!!
SLEEPY VIBES, LITTLE HENRY!!!! :D
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Sarah,
That is soooo great!! Although I am sure you do miss somewhat the rocking and cuddling, the extra sleep for both of you is definitely worth it!
Carrie
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Hey Sarah
You (and well ofcourse your clever little man) have been going so great from your previous posts.
However you have disappeared for a while, I'm hoping that Henry has been sleeping so much (at least 13 hours per night) that you just have sooo much energy and that you are having a huge fun weekend :wink:
Please let us know how things have been going in your household
You have both been on my mind
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Things are going so well here. I wish I hadn't waited so long to do this!!!
Let's see - Saturday night, he went down without a peep. After I nursed him, I put him in bed and walked into the family room. Dh looked at me and asked, "Did he fall asleep?" I said, "Nope. He's awake in his crib." :D He slept until I woke him at 7am - almost 11 hours.
Last night he did not cry when I put him down but about 10 minutes later he needed me to come in just once and lay him back down. He woke once at 4am but only needed me to come in once and lay him back down. I woke him for the day at 7:10 - 11 hours.
I'm not letting him sleep much past 7am because if he sleeps much later, he's difficult to put down for his nap. He's been napping 2 hours, too, so he's getting about 13 hours of sleep per day - about 2-2.5 hours more than before - and I'm having a lot of "me" time. It's wonderful!!! Everyone is so much happier.
I'm still in the room with him until he falls asleep at naptime. I figure I'll give him a couple of weeks to get used to the bedtime routine and then I'll tackle naps. :D
Thanks for thinking about us. :D
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Sarah I am so so so excited for you!!! You must feel great and I am sure Henry's little body is loving the extra sleep. That is so wonderful that he is doing so well.
We haven't been around because we have been out of town visiting the inlaws. Ethan did great on the trip and slept really well even in his pack - n- play. He had a few brief night wakings but I was able to cuddle him for just a sec and lay him right back down, so things are getting back to normal finally.
Congratulations again Sarah!!
Hi Carrie and Melissa I hope all is well with you both too :D
Jess
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Well, things here are not as good as they were. They're not as bad as they were, either, so I guess that's good.
Henry now goes to sleep on his own with mostly no problems. But he's still waking at night. He woke night before last once - once in the room to lay him down and then did not hear from him again until he woke for the day. Last night, he woke 5 or 6 times - I lost count. :twisted: Each time I only had to go in once to lay him down but I'm back to broken sleep! WTF?
His molars are starting to break through - 3 of them. And he's had nasty stinky loose poops since Thursday but none over night last night.
What is this? Any ideas? Thanks!
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My guess would be that he is uncomfortable with the molars breaking thru or that he is having that lapse that Tracy talks about (just a little later than normal).
However the nasty poops and the wakings is the kind of behaviour we had when Khyans molars were coming thru.
We had the strange wakings like you are talking about where he needed help getting back to sleep. It was unusual because normally he would just scream in pain however some nights it was like it wasn't quite pain, maybe just an ache, but enough to keep waking him up.
I would try pain relief (however we found that these wakings were normally even with pain relief :? ) and if that doesn't work then just stay consistent and ride it out - hopefully it will only be a couple of days, and then you can get back to full nights sleep.
My only other thought would be possible illness coming on - fingers crossed that this isn't the case and that once those molars are thru that little Henry will be back on track. :D
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Hey Sarah,
I agree with Michaela, that it is probably just a little blip mostly having to do with the molars. You could try a little pain relief before bed and see if that helps. What does he do when he wakes in the night? Have you tried holding off for a minute or 2 before going in to see if he'll settle on his own? Myles still does this sometimes, and he'll usually settle back down on his own if I hold off for a minute. However, he has been waking once a night lately wanting water, but that has been pretty quick. I don't know if it has to do with the fact that it is still so hot here, or that he has FINALLY had an eyetooth pop through, after what has felt like forever.
Just stay consistent with how you put him down and how you react with the nightwakings, and he'll be back on track soon enough!
Carrie
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Sarah
When you first started sleep training with Henry you said that you lay him down and say "mama loves you" do you put your hand on him for a couple of secs or just lay down and walk out?
The reason I ask is that Khyan seems to be REALLY attached to me putting my hand on his bum and gently rocking till he gets drowsy and I am finding that I need to do something about it, was hoping you could give me some advice as to how you do it with Henry, and maybe I could give it a go with Khyan.
Thanks
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After I brush his teeth, I rock with him in the rocking chair for just a couple of minutes to relax him. Then I tell him that I love him and night-night, take him to his crib, lay him down, put a binky in his mouth and one in each hand ( :roll: ), rub his forehead while saying night-night again and then walk out.
If I stay with him, he wants to play. He doesn't get drowsy so that doesn't work for us. Make sense?
I'm sorry you're having such a rough time with Khyan right now. Have you taken him back to the doctor to make sure either that what he has has cleared up or that he doesn't have something new?
Oh - and what is "glue ear"?
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put a binky in his mouth and one in each hand
OMG, that's EXACTLY what we do! How funny! :lol:
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Thanks Sarah
Yeah Khyan is on the mend but has another runny nose (these things just don't seem to stop :roll: )
Glue ear is pretty much slimmy like gunk behind the ear drum mostly it's not infected, just annoying and can make it hard for them to hear. Which is why I'm thinking that Khyan may be having troubles with his speech.
As soon as Khyan is completely better (haa haa does that ever happen?) we are going to start sleep training with the leaving the room between PD's - if necessary.
However sometimes Khyan will lie down and sob for me however if I go in the room to comfort he sometimes won't sit or stand but just lie there crying :cry: Have you come across this ? Should I just say "mummy loves you" and quick pat on the bum and leave the room?
How is Henry going now? did things settle down?
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Henry has never done the laying down crying thing so I don't know what to tell you. Maybe someone else has experienced that? It sounds so sad! :cry:
Things here are still a little hinky. He's waked up early and poopy almost every morning this week. He's still not well but he's not really very sick either - I can tell he doesn't feel 100% but he's not that whiney or clingy or misbehaving. I'm thinking about taking him to the doctor but I'm pretty sure they'll tell me he has a virus and just to wait it out. Why waste the money on something like that?
Anyway, he's sleeping through again for the most part, which is wonderful. I'm learning to sleep again, too!!
Hope Khyan feels better soon.
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Have you been giving him anything different in the evening that could be contributing to the poopy morning nappies?
I must admit that once Khyan has a "time to go' he seems to stick to it - which means that if it's 6am in the morning that it will be 6am EVERY morning until I can somehow shift that time :roll:
What I normally do is give him a food that I know brings on a poopy nappy quite quickly (such as prunes, slightly spicy foods or heavy in fibre) and then most times this new time will now become poopy nappy time. Strange I know :shock: but it seems to work :wink: .
After you have ruled out sickness then maybe you could give something like this a go also Khyan definently get stinky, loose poops with teething :shock: .
I also add a flora care (Lactobacillus acidophilus/bifidobacterium) type prep to his bottle when his tummy is alittle off - I normally continue it for about 1 month and then stop and put it away until next time or if he is on antibiotics.
I agree that sometimes you take them to Dr and you just know that nothing can be done and that it is just a waste of money so really riding it out might be your best bet.
I'm so glad that you are finally getting some sleep :D It makes the world of difference doesn't it !
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He's better as of yesterday am - right when I was about to take him to the doctor. He woke with a poopy diaper again yesterday but then did not poop again and woke this am just wet. I probably will have to deal with a slight constipation issue now as I've been giving him bananas, carrots, rice, applesauce . . . anything to slow things down. But that's easier for me to fix than what's been going on.
He's been trying to wake at 5:30am every other day. So far (luckily, knock on wood!), I've been able to just lay him back down and he'll at least stay quiet until 6:30am. I don't know if he goes back to sleep or not but at least he's getting the idea that 5:30am is entirely too early for Mama!
How's Khyan feeling? How is everyone else - Myles? Ethan? Tyler? Nathan?
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Last night we had 2 hours of awake time from 4 - 6am :shock: :cry: so I am really hoping that it's just teeth and not some other sickness :cry:
It just doesn't stop ! We have had COLD, GASTRO, EAR INFECTION, TONSILITIS, and then another COLD, with just a couple of days between each illness :roll: . WHAT IS NEXT !!! ARRRRGHHHHH :x
I'm just hoping that it will be a couple of day of horrible and then all 4 eye teeth will pop thru and then my happy little angel will be back for at least a couple of months :wink:
Well enough of my whinging ! :roll:
I'm glad that Henry is feel much better and that he is understanding now that mummy needs to sleep later than 5.30am.
Now that he is feeling better hopefully he will get out of the habit of waking that early.
Would love to hear what is going on with every one else too :D
Have a great weekend everyone :D
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Well it's 9pm and he went down to sleep at 7pm and so far we have had 2 major wakings and 1 large vomit :shock: :shock: :shock:
Our night isn't looking good.
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Double post - Oops :?
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Poor Khyan (and Michaela)! I can't believe how much he's been sick. I hope he feels better soon...hang in there!
I'm so glad that Henry's still on board with the "we sleep ALL night" plan!
Tyler's cutting his last eyetooth and is getting over yet another cold. He cut the other 3 eyeteeth within the last 3 weeks. I'm glad it was over quickly, but boy, was he a different kid. Tantrums like I've never seen. He's doing a lot better now and is finally getting back to his happy, easygoing little self.
Myles? Ethan?
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I'm so sorry Khyan has been so sick! Hopefully this will build up his immunity in a big way so he won't be sick again for a LONG time!!
Henry's been having monster tantrums lately - about everything and about nothing. Not sure what it's all about - age? teeth? illness? It's driving me nuts, though! I find it so incredibly hard to be consistent when he just wears me down as the day goes on.
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Sarah, it looks like Tyler and Henry have been chatting again...I have a few desperate posts about Tyler's recent possession by demons. Hang in there...it does get worse before it gets better, but it WILL pass!
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hey all,
Just wanted to say hi! I hope Kyhan is doing better for you Michaela. Gosh you two have had such a rough time. I feel so sorry for you. That is so incredibly rough to go through back to back like that :(
Sarah- Glad to here that Henry is doing much better in the sleep department. I had to laugh when you said that you were learning to sleep again..I think the only book Tracey left out was "The Baby Whisperer for Moms in Recovery". I definitely need to learn to sleep past 4am. I am stuck there! No wonder it is so easy for them to get stuck too.
How is Myles doing?
Hi Melissa- Boy am I afraid of those monstor tantrums. I know my time is coming and I am living on borrowed time here. I can already see the beginnings of it. Yikes. I love your new avatar by the way. He is just the boy with the beautiful grin and the gorgeous eyes. (oh and yours too Sarah- Henry looks so happy in his stroller. These little men are just so cute)
Ethan is doing pretty well and has slept through the past 5 nights! A feat that hasn't happened in a long long time. We went to the doc today and noticed that his bottom molars are making a small peak through appearance. Nothing major yet but they are finally breaking the gums a teeny tiny bit. We have also officially moved to one nap (finally!) and the transition is going really smoothly after weeks of craziness. So I hope it keeps up. Oh and he started walking!! I know you are all already there but it is so exciting to see this little munchkin walking! He isn't so wonderful at it yet, but as you know he practices all of the time.
As for me, dh and I are talking about #2!!! (See I get a little sleep and I think I am superwoman and can do it over again :lol: ) I think I have gone mad, but I am actually feeling ok about it. Terrified but ok..LOL.
Jess
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Hello Ladies!
Michaela- I feel so bad for you and Khyan, especially when things seemed to be going well for you there for awhile! I really hope he gets better soon, and starts sleeping better.
Jess- Enjoy that sleep!! That is great that he is walking now, it is sooo much fun when they start. Good for you about having that second baby!! I still think we are in the "one and only" camp with that.
Melissa- Glad to hear you're getting over the tantrums right now! Tyler is absolutely gorgeous in your new avatar!
Sarah- I am so happy that things are working out for you! There will be little blips along the way, but he knows how to fall asleep independently, so getting back on track is sooo much easier. I love Henry's new picture as well, he is beautiful!
Well, things around here are pretty good. We have had some days where Myles as well has been possessed by the devil it seems, and cries and stomps his feet, etc.. over the smallest things. He finally broke through one of his eye teeth last week, and I am hoping the other one comes through soon. I think the tantrums have had something to do with it, as well as the early start to our day here and there. But for the most part I can't complain! He's really starting to talk more, which has been a relief to me, as I was starting to worry about it quite a bit.
How has everyone's summer been so far? Have you done anything fun, or gone away anywhere?
Glad to touch base with everyone!
Carrie
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Where is everyone ? Heellllooooo is anyone out there? :wink:
I'm anxious to hear how everyone is doing !
A quick update for us is:
Khyan is still trying to fight illness (still congested and fighting an ear infection) - he is doing well but still not back to his normal self as yet !
We are struggling with control issues :roll: Khyan is trying to see what he can get away with and what is a NO GO ! - problem is that with illness I am just too tired to fight with him so he seems to be winning :? :cry: NOT GOOD - I know and boy am I trying to be consistent ! (I know I'm setting myself up for horrible times in the future if I don't get my act together)
We are going to start back on sleep training once Khyan is back on track with health
Since the weather is not great here at the moment we spend most of our days doing drawings and building blocks - but we are having lots of fun !
and on the days where there is no rain, Khyan just runs and runs and runs and runs :D
We would really love to hear what all of you are doing :D
xx
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Hey Michaela!
Poor Khyan...sick again! It's so hard to stay consistent, isn't it? Hang in there!
Tyler finally cut his last eyetooth, so hopefully we'll get a little break before 2 yr molars. His tantrums are back under control and he's been much happier. We're currently struggling with boundary testing at sleep times. He chucks everything out of his crib and cries for it, and does it over and over. Not sep anx, since he does it even if we're standing right next to the crib. He even does it in the middle of the night (although he didn't last night, so hopefully the fun is wearing off). He thinks he's hilarious. Me...not so much. We'll see how naptime goes today. Argh. He's also going through this awful phase where he repeats everything we say. I feel like I have a little parrot following me around all day!
How's everyone else?
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Things here are going very well - it's almost scary! I don't think things have ever gone this well in Henry's entire 18.5 months. (Knock on wood - please God please let it continue!)
Henry goes down for bedtime without complaint or assistance and sleeps through until 6:30am at least. He also is now going down for naps without complaint or assistance and is sleeping for 1.5-2 hours consistently. He's not there yet with naps at daycare but I don't care - whatever she needs to do to get him to sleep.
We're going to my mother's tomorrow and I'm scared to death. Henry will be sleeping in his own room there (barring unforeseen circumstances) in a pack-n-play. His first sleep there will be tomorrow's nap. We'll see how it goes. I'm hoping I don't have to resort to rocking him to sleep because a) I don't want to have to do that and b) I'm not sure he'll let me. Wish us luck!!!
How's everyone else?
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Hello Ladies!
I feel like I have been MIA for awhile now! Things have been very busy around here lately, and so it has been hard to get on here to spend a decent amount of time. My dh got a promotion so has been working more, we went away for a weekend (without Myles!), we had my relatives from New Hampshire visiting, and I just got back from a girl's trip away to Boston! However, things seem to be settling back down now.
Myles has been so awesome, although I'm sure I just jinxed it by saying that! He's been sleeping great, been really healthy, and is talking more and more. We also seem to have moved from the tantrums a bit, which was a huge test of my patience!!!!! He still constantly tests us with everything, but it's just been a matter of staying consistent and firm with the limitations. And, BOTH of his eyeteeth are finally through!!!!! I am already dreading the 2 year molars.
I'm glad to hear everyone else is doing well!
Michaela- That really sucks that Khyan is sick again!! I would just focus on getting him better, and then once he is healthyconcentrate on getting back on track. I'm of thinking of you both!
Carrie