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Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 15, 2005, 21:40:33 pm
Any new moms out there want to chat? What is going on with your new arrivals? My little man Red is 3 weeks old, he is a spirited baby, and we are having trouble with his daytime sleep already :?  It would be great to chat with other mom's with brand new babies  and see how you are going along :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on July 16, 2005, 01:13:31 am
I would love to chat....just letting you know.  However, at the moment, her Highness has to eat.  Will post back in a bit.

bj

Okay, so SEVERAL hours later....geez.  Cait is 5 weeks old today and has been a fairly easy baby.    This past week she has really been focusing on things (me, dh, and Ry), her attention span has widened to about 10 minutes, after that, she gets overstimulated and can meltdown.  She does not like the music or lights on the swing.  Too much for her little system to comprehend.

She is eating between 4 +/- oz about every 3-4 hours.   We got lucky the other night and she went from 7p-1a before eating again.  That was exciting, but haven't seen it again since.  I think it is just an "freebie" from God to remind us that "this too shall pass".  I think she may have a light case of reflux, also.  It doesn't happen everytime, nor does it happen everyday...but on occasion she gets to be very unconsolable after eating, even after burping and then I will see curdled milk in her mouth that she has "burped".  Breaks my heart.  :cry:

I think she is going to be a Binky baby.  At least tonight she is...or it could be that "sucking" helps relieve the reflux, not sure which.  I really wish she would find her thumb and be a thumb baby, but....not up to me.

Cait was born weighing 8.9 lbs, came home at 9.3 lbs, had a checkup at a week and was 8.6 lbs and the dr wanted us to come back the following week and she weighed 9.2 lbs.  So...she likes her bottle!!!

Other than that, she is pretty much bump on a log.  :wink:  :lol:  :shock: Her brother will be much happier when she starts to "play". 

Thats all for now.
bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 16, 2005, 11:42:14 am
Quote from: bj&ry
I think she may have a light case of reflux, also.  It doesn't happen everytime, nor does it happen everyday...but on occasion she gets to be very unconsolable after eating, even after burping and then I will see curdled milk in her mouth that she has "burped".  Breaks my heart.

I think this about Red too, he often seems quite uncomfortable, he will squirm and fuss, and then do a tiny spit up and then howl like he is in agony. But other times he will belch like a good'un and not fuss at all.

Red feeds between every 2.5 - 3 hours and i am b'feeding. He feeds well most of the time and isn't as sleepy as Ruby was. He is gaining weight, at birth he was 8lb 4.5oz, at 5 days he was 8lbs 2oz and by day 16 he was back up to 8lbs 6 oz. He has just had his 3 week growth spurt, which is what was causing all the daytime sleep disruption i think. Today he is back on a 3 hour EASY schedule, and is sleeping well  between feeds, so crisis over i hope!!

We put him down to bed at 7pm, and then he gets a feed at somewhere between 10-11pm. His nights have been fairly unpredictable, he tends to wake for the first time somewhere between 2am and 4.30am. This is where is often goes a bit wrong as his night feeds are never great, he never takes a full feed and then wakes again two hours later, then two hours after that :?  So it might go wake at 2.30am, 4.30am and 7am which is horrendous, but sometimes (like last night) he will wake at 3.30am then 7am which is fantastic. One night waking i can cope with, 2 and i am like the living dead!! One night he went from 7pm till 4.30am (9.5hours) but as you say i think this was done just to give me some hope for the future!!

Red gets overstimulated very quickly too, his maximum awake time is one hour, but often only 45 minutes. When he is awake and not feeding he seems to be quite a calm boy, very wide-eyed and just taking it all in.

I wouldn't worry too much about the binky at this stage, Rubes had one until she was about 8-10 weeks then rejected it and found her thumb at 16 weeks (ish). As long as you are not having to constantly put it in when she spits it out then i don't see it as too much of a problem. Red only has one if  he fusses and i am not quite ready to feed (like yesterday in the middle of the store!!)

Glad things are going   good for you right now, how is her sleeping?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 18, 2005, 15:52:18 pm
I'd love to chat too! My dd is 6 weeks and things sound very similar. Especially the reflux and the night time wakings. She is all over the place with her wake ups at night. She does only wake up once, though, thank God!! But it can range anywhere from 2am to 5am! I'd like to get that more stable. Do babies outgrow the reflux? Like you said, it's not every time so I don't think she needs medication or anything...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 18, 2005, 16:29:27 pm
Hey there, I am hoping that Red's 'reflux' will be outgrown. A couple of the other moms have commented that their babies have had 'immature digestive systems' and that up to the age of 3 months they seemed quite sensitive to and spat up a lot, but then outgrew it. I am giving infacol (mylicon i think in the us) and gripe water, don't know if it is doing much but it makes me feel better!!

Are you breast or bottle feeding, how is it going? I am breast feeding and it is going well, but i am so sick of the multiple night wakings :cry:  :cry:  Last night it was 2.15am (up for over an hour trying to get him to take a full feed - which he wouldn't), awake again at 4.15am (only 45 mins after going to sleep, and again would not take a full feed), then again at 6.30am. At this time he would not feed at all, but fussed for about 20 mins until he did a huge poop and then slept till 8.30am. I could just cry, and i think at 4.15am this morning i actually did. Y'know i do not mind getting up to feed him, but if he won't feed properly it just winds me up - WHY??!!

We are having evening problems too, in that he won't go down at 7pm. I think this may be down to my supply, as with Ruby it dropped dramatically at this time because i was so tired, then picked back up again at 10pm. What i normally do is give one side before bath, then the other afterwards, but tonight i am going to  give both sides before bath, then a bottle of formula afterwards. At least then i'll KNOW he has a full tummy and can't be fussing because he is hungry!! Actually the only way we can get him to settle if he is overtired is with a dummy, so i guess you are not alone anymore BJ!!

I hate to seem like i am complaining about my little man, he is very sweet and i love him so much, but he is hard work, especially with Ruby around and her getting her top canines too :roll:

How are your days going??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 18, 2005, 16:51:10 pm
Hi new mom's: Avery is five weeks old today. Our days and nights are similar to yours as well. She was born at 7lbs 7oz and was 9lbs 11oz at her one month appt. She gets a bath around 7-7:30pm and is bf and in bed around 8pm. She generally makes it til around two but has also gone 8 1/2 hours one night, 7 hours another night, and a hand full of times 6. Clair, I too can manage the one feed a night but two gets hard on me.

We have been doing pat/shush for a week now and she's doing really good. It takes anywhere from 10-20 minutes to get her down for her naps and if I catch her 45min mark I can usually settle her back in given her about three 1 1/2 hour naps during the day and try to do some catnaps (need to work on these) in the early evening. If she misses these she gets overtired and is a lot harder to get down for the night.  :x

She's a pretty good baby and turning out to be fairly low maintnance (which I'm loving since ds was extremely high-maintnance the first 4 months). I've been reading the sleep and breast feeding boards a ton and have learned so much. But everyday it seems I have even more questions/concerns........... :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 18, 2005, 17:07:41 pm
Hi there Kayna, i'm so pleased to see you here, and to hear of Avery's safe arrival. I LOVE the name! How was your delivery in the end?

About naps, i am doing 4 long 1.5/ 2 hour naps, admittedly he struggles to go down after his 3pm/ 3.30pm feed but if he then sleeps from 4.30pm till 6pm it helps to get him down in the evening.

Glad someone else is scouring the boards in places they have never been before! It is weird to be posting on the EASY forum as i have never had to before!!

How is your BF going? What is the length of an average feed for Avery? Red takes about 15-20 mins on one side then might have 5 on the other side if he is hungry. Are you doing any formula at all? I am thinking about doing a bottle before bed.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on July 18, 2005, 18:35:44 pm
Sounds as though we are in the same boat....which it were a cruise ship!!!!  :lol:

Cait usually eats about every 3-4 hours during the day and then almost immediately goes down for  a nap.  Sometimes just for an hour (thank you, big brother Ryan  :evil: ), sometimes for the whole 2-3 hours before the next feed.  I find that she is more awake around the 4-6 pm time, which works out well for moving towards sleeping through the night phase.  We always put Ry down at 9 pm (even to this day) when he finally managed to "find" his off switch for the night, and we are still groping for it with Cait, but I dont' think it will be much longer.  She did real good last night-she slept from about 10:30ish to a little after 4 am, so I was very excited about that, I am hoping for an encore performance tonight.  Unfortunately, Ry was up every other hour throwing up...so much for blessed sleep.  Cait also slept the in the nursery for the first time, so that is a big step for us.  She will need to move out of the bassinette and into the crib, probably this weekend.  :cry:   She is so big. Getting her to sleep last night was an act of Congress though...I had the binky and she would fall asleep easily.  Then when she was all lax and in lala land, the binky would fall out and the eyes popped open and the screaming began.  So I am trying not to do that too much.  very tiring.

Feedings take about 25-30 minutes, burps and all.  Usually 4oz.

her highness is awake...again...gotta go.
bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: happychick2003 on July 18, 2005, 19:12:11 pm
Hi everyone

Annabel will be 8 weeks on Wednesday and so far we have a pretty good routine - well as long as we don't go and visit her grandma as she doesn't settle there!

Our normal day starts around 630am with a feed, then she goes back to bed until around 930am then she gets washed and dressed and seems to be awake until about 1015am then she sleeps until 1ish where she feeds again then about 2ish shes back asleep until 5ish but that's where I give her some water to tide her over until she has had a bath about 545pm and her bottle at 6ish which I do in her room.  She then goes to bed around 7pm and I give her a dream feed about 10pm.  She sleeps through the night usually unless she is having a growth spurt so I really can't complain.

I will say she can be awful to put down for a nap if I leave it too long but generally I take her upstairs to her cot at her first or second yawn and off she goes no problem.

It's nice now when she is awake for those short periods as she is so wide eyed and loves to look around at what is going on.  She is also smiling a bit more now which is good for her as she was 5 weeks early.

The only thing I'm looking forward to is when she won't scream for a bottle at bath time - well once she's out the bath as she loves being in there and by the time bath time is over she's starving - I can't move it forward as that would mean waking her up from her sleep which I won't do so a scream for a few minutes isn't too bad.

Now that she's on lactose free milk she is so much more contented and the spitting up of a bottle is getting less and less as her little tummy matures and as long as she doesn't get jiggled around (her grandma didn't believe that until yesterday when she chucked up all over her after she'd jiggled her around!!!).  I've found gripe water the best thing for wind and giving it before the feed and burping every 1oz has helped so much.

Lovely to read all your postings.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 18, 2005, 23:27:30 pm
Hmmm, well today did not go well.  :?  We couldn't get past the 45 minute mark which led to overtiredness/cranky baby. It's sooo much harder to get her to sleep when she's overtired. I'm finding pat/shhh works well but today I'm super tired myself and pat/shhh seems like so much work.  :cry: 

Clair, bf is going fairly good. Avery is latching on good and eats like a trooper but my supply doesn't seem very good. She usually nurses about 10-15 minutes on one side, burp/change diaper, and then another 10 on the other. I was doing single sided feeding but due to low supply I've started with both. I've been trying to get my supply up (more frequent nursing, tons-o-water) but not sure if it's working. Any suggestions? I have supplemented with formula before when I feel like she's still hungry after a feed. She really likes to suck but I can not for the life of me get her to take a pacifier.  :x

Avery too is growing out of the bassinet and figure this weekend will be the last we will use of that. Hopefully the crib won't throw her for a loop. For the last couple weeks I've just set the bassinet inside the crib to get her used to those surroundings, etc.

Well, I'm crossing my fingers tomorrow will be better and little Avery will let mommy get lots of uninterrupted sleep tonight.  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 19, 2005, 15:30:12 pm
I have a question. Can your lo get too much sleep in the evening and then not sleep well at night? I am considering this schedule:
6am feed
7am sleep
9am feed
10am sleep
12pm feed
1pm sleep
2:30pm feed
3:30pm sleep
5pm feed-maybe no sleep? Bath and awake time if not fussy or sleepy.
7:30feed
8:00 Bed
10pm feed

Any thoughts? The reason why I'm wondering is because my dd is almost sleeping too good during the day and I'm wondering if it's upsetting night time sleep. She goes down after the 10pm feed but almost always wakes up at 2:30am and then is ready to start the day at 5:30am!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 19, 2005, 20:55:48 pm
I know that if Avery gets too "little" of sleep during the day she does make it a lot longer at night but she is a bear during the day and is more difficult to get down that night for bed and after her night feeds. It's wonderful to get seven hours of sleep in a row but dealing with a crying/overtired baby all day is not fun. She's never slept very good in the late afternoon/early evenings but that hasn't affected her night time sleep if she has napped well during the day. It just makes her overtired when it's bed time and again, harder to get to sleep. HTH.....let us know how it works.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 20, 2005, 16:16:40 pm
Today we are starting at 7:30 and we had to wake her up! She made it from 9:45 until 4:45 this morning! I'm not complaining but there is just no darn stability!  Sigh!  She cried from 7:45 until 9:15pm. We tried to put her down at 7:45 for bed time and she would have NONE of it. So, I sat with her and rocked her. She never did sleep so I didn't feel like I was rocking her to sleep or anything but she was quiet and happier. So, we just stayed like that for about an hour and then I fed her at 9:15 and then she slept great.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 20, 2005, 22:50:01 pm
Hey everyone, how are you doing? We have had some good days and some bad. The last two nights have been a lot better, feeding at 10.30pm, 4.15am and then 6.30am. Ruby is up at 7am so that works out quite well. His feeding has all of a sudden become a lot quicker, from 15-20 mins on one side to 6-10 mins. This 'reflux' has been a lot worse too, i am on the verge of going to the doctors about it. In fact it was only because he was not so fussy today that i didn't. He seems to be very uncomfortable a lot of the time, spitting up a lot etc and it is awful to see him like that. I will keep an eye on it and take him if it remains the same.

Our problem 'du jour' is waking early from naps. How are you meant to keep them on EASY if the wake from their nap after only 1 hour? If i go in to help him settle he just wakes up fully and yells his head off, if i don't go in, well he does the same after a while! :lol:  The only way i can get him to settle is with a dummy and a cuddle, i alwyas take the dummy out when he is asleep tho, i am terrified of him waking evvery time he drops it!

For those who are BF'ing, are you giving/ planning to give a bottle of EBM/ formula at any stage? And if so, i place of which feed? I want to do it, and would probably give it at 7pm or 10.30pm. But it is the thought of pumping instead of feeding that does me in! I'd rather just feed! With Ruby my milk was non-existant at 7pm and so i had to supplement, but no such problem this time. I want him to be able to have a bottle and also i would like a break for one feed a day!!

Hope you are all well, off to bed now x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 21, 2005, 15:15:43 pm
We started a bottle at 3 weeks! I have a really nice double electric pump from medela (a family member loaned it to us) so it really works well. We have been feeding a bottle at the 7pm feed. It's really nice to be able to give an occasional bottle. For instance, yesterday was our 3rd anniversary and my mom stayed with dd for 8 hours while we played 18 holes of golf and went to dinner.  :D It was a total of 3 bottles and she took all of them extremely well. More than 4 oz. each time. Then we got home and I fed dd at 10:30 and went to bed. Well, she slept through the night!!! So now of course I'm wondering if she eats better with bottles!  :roll: Probably not, and I like bf too much to give it up yet. Anyway, my whole point is, if you want to be able to do something and miss a feed, it's nice to be able to give your baby a bottle. Plus, I gave her a bottle last Sunday at church instead of nursing her and that was nice too. I felt a little weird giving her a bottle. I felt like she was looking at my boob the whole time. :lol:  But she took it really well. I would introduce it earlier rather than later. I knew a girl who had to leave work on her breaks to go feed her baby b/c it wouldn't take a bottle.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 22, 2005, 17:19:36 pm
We had a horrible night last night. I'm just venting... dd cried all evening, even when held and cuddled. She went to bed at 9:30, woke up at 1:30am and then at 4:30am. I know for some this would be a good night but for us, it's bad. I was crying at 5am.  :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 22, 2005, 19:54:13 pm
Awww, big hugs loliac. Not any help but we've had a rough couple nights here too!! It sucks..........here's to a good night tonight.  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 22, 2005, 21:30:28 pm
Not to gloat in any way...we have had some really cr@ppy nights too, but the last 4 have been great, a df at 10.30pm then through till between 4-5am, then awake again at 7am - YAY Red!!

Kayna and Bj, how are you doing with getting out of the house with two of them? I find just the getting out of the house and closing the door quite stressful! Once we are out and doing then it seems to go ok. Ruby is behaving ok so far, long may it last!!  I can manage outings but i generally find that it screws up the rest of the day :? It obviously means that he doesn't nap (as he hates the car seat and wakes up in the pushchair) and then gets overtired and won't go down again for more than 45 mins at a time. Today i went to playgroup for the first time, it is a small one, with lots of people i know and i arrived in time for his 10am feed. After he ate i put him in the sling as i knew this would allow him to sleep at least a little. Is this ok, as longs as it is not everyday? Again, this afternoon we went to the IL's as it is MIL's birthday. In anticipation of going out i put him down in the car seat (as if i have to transfer him he wakes) and he fell asleep by himself jjust in the seat. I suppose i am just worried about 'accidental parenting'!!

One thing that is 'worrying' me is how much he is getting to love his dummy. He does not need it to go to sleep, but if he is at all fussy, having trouble getting off to sleep, or wakes from sleep too early he then needs the dummy. I try to stay with him until he is just about asleep, and then pull it out, and reaasure if he needs it...sometimes he does and other times not. I do not mind him having the dummy at all, i just do not want to end up in the situation where every time it falls out i have to go and put it back in - is there any way to avoid this??

He had his first bottles and too them like a champ, to be honest and i find this a little disconcerting, he fussed so much less when feeding and seemed happy afterwards, whereas he is such a fusspot when bfing, bobbing on and off and puking and fussing afterwards, why could this be - do you think it is something i am eating? Wouldn't formula be worse than that???

OMG...MIL pulled out some baby photos of DH today, and Red is the spitting image of him, at least i know what he is going to look like in the future!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on July 23, 2005, 03:18:19 am
Well Clair, sounds as though you have fallen right into step with having 2 children!  High fives to you  :lol:

Okay, I have a bit of a confession...I haven't read Tracy's books, Alligirl turned me onto the site as a bit of reassurance that the behavior that Ry was having was the same as every other little boy.  So with that said, I am not really sure what "accidental parenting" is. :oops:   Alligirl gave me her copy of the BW to read, but I just never sat down and did it.

I agree with you about the whole dummy thing, though.  Cait gets fussy or if she wakes up to early, she needs to "suck", I guess to soothe herself, but like you, I DO NOT want a dependence to the darn thing.  I do not need "dummy aerobics" to lose more weight...up, down, up down. :roll:   If only there was a "dummy keeper" to keep it in their mouths!!!  I contemplated duct tape, but I think DH would shoot me :shock:  :wink: (just kidding about the duct tape)  Of course, I am a bad mommy, Cait is currently in her swing, with a dummy, sound asleep!  :oops:   We will just call this "mommy time"  :lol:

Getting out of the house hasnt' been too bad.  I always try to restock the diaper bag as soon as we get home so that I am not running around 5 minutes before we are ready to leave again trying to gather stuff up.  Also, it is fresh in my mind what supplies I have used while we were out without having to totally empty the bag and take inventory.  I think my biggest hurdle with the two of them out shopping is keeping track of the "walker" while making sure the "rider" isn't harmed by throwing a gallon of milk on top of her.   :lol:    However, coming home...twice I have left my keys in the door, only to get frustrated when I can't find them.  Dh has had to pull them out twice.  Of course, I can't blame that solely on having two now....while i was pregant, I left the keys in the door all freakin' night and when dh got off duty and came home, he walked right in. :shock:

You said that you started bottles today.  Do you mean that you "pumped" and filled bottles or you gave him formula bottles?  I have never bf, but based on what I know about Alli's exp. there are certain foods that she can not eat or it just messes up her lo.  I think at the time she had to avoid peanut butter and chocolate.  You might PM her and see how she eliminated what foods were upseting Zachary.  Have you tried holding Red in different positions to bf?( I am sure you have, I am just trying to be helpful.)  He has a good latch?  (again, just basing what I know from Alli)

Yay, Red for sleeping so well!   I am so looking for long stretches of sleep since I go back to work on her 7 week mark.  I will be a walking zombie if she doesnt' do something soon.  Keep us posted on your progress.

bj
Title: June 10 baby
Post by: Critter on July 24, 2005, 01:41:20 am
Hello all!  I have a beautiful baby boy, born June 10.  He was six weeks old yesterday.  I am trying to figure out the Cluster Feed since I go back to work in two weeks and would LOVE to skip the 3:30 am feeding.  Luke is doing very well on EASY, and taking very good naps and staying awake for an hour or an hour and a half until the evening.   Last night you would have thought we were torturing him b/c he cried and cried while we tried to keep him awake.  He woke up at 6, we fed him and bathed him and then we went back down at 6:45.  He slept until almost 11:30, woke up for a bottle and went back to bed and was up again at 3:30.  The book says to feed at 6, 8, and then a dream feed.  I can't wake him for ANYTHING once he's asleep, and almost feel like I shouldn't anyway.  His dream feed was actually his scheduled feeding, so should I not worry too much about the cluster feed unless his schedule gets off?  What works for you?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 24, 2005, 10:45:11 am
I cannot believe you guys have to go back to work so soon, i just could not leave my babe so soon :(  :?  How do y'all feel about it??

Amy, this is what we do for our evening, this is copied from what i wrote in another post in the general sleep issues board on eveving schedules:

After the 4pm feed, i put him down to nap as usual (at 4.45pm-5pm), i then wake him at 6pm for a feed.
This is when we start to differ from what the book says. After the 6pm feed i put him straight into the bath, then dried and dressed and at 6.45pm he gets another feed. (I tend to think of this as a split feed, but offer him as much as he wants both times.)
He then goes down straight after this feed. He is still getting 'tanked up' as he is feeding at 4pm, 6pm and 6.45pm. I then df at 10.30pm. He is going through till 4am-5am.
I personally feel that this keeps us more on track with EASY as it is just the last cycle of the day that we do EAESY.

Hope that helps, i just found that this worked better for both my babies, fiddle around and see what works for you and your family. My priority was, and still is, bed by 7pm!!

Bj, accidental parenting is when you use methods of parenting that perpetuate bad habits (eg. feeding to sleep, rocking to sleep etc) and that can be tough to break.

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If only there was a "dummy keeper" to keep it in their mouths!!! I contemplated duct tape
glad i'm not the only one!!!!

The bf is going very well, good latch etc, but he is just so fussy. I have found that he doesn't fuss so much if i lie down to feed, but i can't do that in the middle of the park! :lol:  :lol: I have just about cut out dairy and caffeine but no change, had a curry one night...big mistake :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  Lots of farting and crying, won't be having one of them for a while!!

Kayna, how are you doing?
Title: NEVER AGAIN!!!
Post by: Critter on July 24, 2005, 13:45:54 pm
Last night he slept until 9:30.  Took a full feeding and I thought I would try to top him off before he went back to sleep, so after three yawns at 10:30 I offered him a 2oz bottle.  NEVER AGAIN!  It completely threw him off.  I should have just let well enough alone b/c he eventually woke at 12:30 for a full feed anyway, but in the two hours b/t he cried and cried.  I guess it threw off his internal clock and upset his schedule.  I definitely have a baby that likes things predictable.  So, I guess I am not going to worry about the cluster feed.  He sleeps for good stretches...usually 4 hours at a time at night.  If I were breast feeding I might have a different opinion, but since he's on formula, I think I will stick with what works.  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" right?  Have a good Sunday!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 25, 2005, 00:06:44 am
Hi everyone, we just got back from camping this weekend. It went pretty well. We have a camper so I was able to keep Avery on a fairly good routine (bath, massage, naps, feeds, etc).

My biggest problem right now though is I believe I have Thrush. Ouch! It hurts bad. I never had any problems with ds while nursing so I'm completely thrown off by this and wonder if I should just quit nursing all together? I do like it but I was reading that it's really hard to get rid of once you have it.  :cry: I hate it when things creep up to make having a newborn even MORE difficult.  :evil:

On a lighter note......Avery is starting to go down for some naps on her own. If I catch her before she's overtired, sometimes, just sometimes, I can take her into her room, swaddle her tight, hold her briefly and lay her down wide eyed. She usually looks around for about 10 minutes, starts to fuss for a couple more minutes and drops off with in 20 minutes or so. Of course it's not very consistant which is so frustrating because I can't figure out what the difference is. I usually only wait for one yawn and then start our wind down ritual but like I said sometimes its no problem and sometimes I can try for an hour. She eventually gets overtired and I resort to nursing her in order to save the rest of the days routine.  :oops: Night time has been going good. She usually goes around 5-6 hours the first time and then another 3 1/2-4 the second.

As for getting out with two :?: Well, most times are good if I time it well with Avery. If she is sleeping I can handle having Daikon. Our trips are usually short and sweet but I am able to get grocery's, diapers, etc. It is always hard for me to get out of the house too, Clair. I can't seem to get anywhere on time anymore. By the time I get all three of us ready, then feed Avery, Daikon has gotten dirty again or I forgot to blow dry my hair or Avery won't stop fussing long enough for me TO blow dry my hair. What a mess..........not sure how people do it!!

Well, sorry a little bit of a rant there but so glad to hear from everyone else. Off to give a bath...................

PS: Clair, I too resort to the Baby Bjorn sometimes if Avery desperately needs a nap or if I need to get something done. Not sure if it's OK or not (meaning BW friendly) but sometimes you just gotta do what ya gotta do. :wink:
Title: thanks
Post by: Critter on July 25, 2005, 00:45:21 am
It's good to know that I am not the only one who feels like I can go anywhere :-)  I applaud you all who do it with TWO, especially when both are under the age of five! 

Today was a little overloaded.  First we were all a little tired after our failed cluster feed last night.  We took ds to church for the first time and he did very well, except that the lights on the ceiling of the Sanctuary were so interesting that he couldn't go to sleep until the last ten minutes  :shock: .  Thank goodness for blankets to shield little eyes.  Then we went to lunch, where he slept the whole time, but I don't think he sleeps as well in his carrier as he does in his crib.  As a result, we had a complete melt-down when we got home.  Too much stimulation I guess.  Next time we will sit in the cry room until he is old enough (in my mind) to stay in the nursery. 

We have our first round of shots tomorrow.  I don't know who is going to need more Tylenol...him or me!
Title: joining you
Post by: foxy2279 on July 26, 2005, 11:40:34 am
Hi there i was wondering if i could join you? I have a 5 week old girl megan. She is my third child others are 2 and 4. I am having problems with her at the moment. Breast feeding did not work and now only bf twice a day and shes on formula the rest of the time. She has a very bad sleep patten and is driving me to dispair. She does not sleep all day. Goes to bed at 9 o'clock sleeps till 4am then is awake until bed time. Any suggestions on how to get her to sleep longer gratefully received. I look and feel like a zombie. My other two children were great sleepers and still are.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 26, 2005, 15:08:04 pm
Do you think it's okay for one of dd naps (morning, before it gets too hot) to take her out in her stroller? I feel bad because it's her best nap time and she's usually in her crib but I just have to get out and exercise!!! What do you all think??? Am I being selfish?
Title: exercise
Post by: Critter on July 26, 2005, 15:33:08 pm
Well, you can always try it and see.  Do you exercise as long as she naps?  If you do and she has good shades on her stroller, then I suppose it never hurts to try, I guess.  Personally, I am not taking ds out for walks while he naps simply because it took so long for us to get on a good schedule and now that he's on one, I don't want to mess it up.  Maybe I am being too cautious....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 26, 2005, 18:09:33 pm
Okay, we went out for a walk and I purposefully walked for an hour and a half so that it would be her whole nap. When I got home, I jumped in the shower, left her in her car seat (it snaps into the stroller) in the bathroom with me. She slept through it! Then I fed her and  basically, she was ready for sleep pretty quickly after I fed her. Diaper change and that's about it. So, I'm sure she didn't sleep as deep as she normally would but hopefully it will work out. She did fuss a little bit before the second nap. We'll see how the rest of the day goes. If it works, I'll be thrilled!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 26, 2005, 19:32:03 pm
Loliac and Amy, I'm so jealous that you have such a handle on your naps. Good for you. :)  I on the other hand pretty much struggle everyday with it. :cry: I try to put her down after her first yawn but she won't fall asleep and then after an hour or so will get overtired and get super cranky. At that point it's practically impossible to get her to sleep. It's soooo frusterating.  :roll:

Foxxy, wish I could help but I'm struggling myself with naps.  :oops: Hang in there. Hope someone has some words of wisdom.
Title: naps
Post by: Critter on July 26, 2005, 20:39:53 pm
I found that putting him down after the first yawn was too soon.  I wait until the third yawn and down he goes.  Try it and see how it works for you.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 26, 2005, 20:59:36 pm
Thank you. I was wondering if I could push it to that. Ooops, there's one yawn better get ready......... :lol: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on July 26, 2005, 21:14:53 pm
any suggestions for a baby that doesn't yawn????? :cry:  :cry:

She will go to sleep just fine if we hold her, rock her or go somewhere in the truck.  But the minute ANY part of her body hits the crib mattress, it is all over.  Well I take that back, anytime I try to put her on her back she wakes up, but if I take a huge chance and put her on her tummy she sleeps just fine.  But I do not like her sleeping on her tummy, for obvious reasons.

I think it is a "security" thing.  If her legs start to flail then it startles her.  She does not tolerate swaddling, AT ALL.  Any ideas?  Seems like all of a sudden her naps have just gone to heck.

bj
Title: swaddle
Post by: Critter on July 26, 2005, 22:31:58 pm
Ok, I thought that my ds hated being swaddled too, but then I figured out that it was the blanket I was using.  I have to use a really stretchy knit blanket and wrap him TIGHT.  I put his arms on his chest low enough so that they don't flail around and get out and it has made a huge difference.  If your baby doesn't yawn, try watching for "the stare".  I bet if you really watch her close enough, she'll yawn when she's really ready to go down...I know you have others, so that makes staring at your baby intently a little harder  :D .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on July 26, 2005, 22:50:23 pm
YES!!  She does do the stare!!!  LOL, I guess I will try the swaddling, but it is so hot here, that if I use something other then the thin blankets, i am afraid she is going to get too hot.  I guess we will see.

bj
Title: HOT
Post by: Critter on July 26, 2005, 23:04:59 pm
Well, Midland isn't exactly the coolest place in the world and we came home from the hospital to NO AIR CONDITIONER!  Can you believe that?  I thought I was going to have a complete nervous breakdown.  Luke slept in a t-shirt and his diaper for a week.  I was convinced that he was always hot and that's why he couldn't sleep (even after the AC got fixed), then we found out he was colicky and the pedi. switched his formula to Enfamil Nutramigen....it's so expensive but it has made a HUGE difference. Once we got the formula thing figured out I started swaddling him more and he slept longer.  I keep the fan in his room on high, even though we turn our thermostat down pretty low at night (about 74).  He's snug as a bug in a rug! I don't know what your baby sleeps in, but we had our ds in a onesie for a long time and he did well.  Now that the AC is working full blast we put him in a little footed sleeper and still swaddle him.  One thing that I did figure out is that he hates for his feet to be confined, so I don't fold up the bottom corner...I just have an 11lb 5 oz burrito :-)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 27, 2005, 22:51:08 pm
Hey y'all!

Well i had Mr Red weighed yesterday and at 4 weeks of age he weighs 10lbs 3 oz, so that is just under two pounds gained from birth! Ruby was a slower gainer at first and only put on 12oz in her first 4 weeks so i am proud of my chubby man!! He is outgrowing his newborn size clothes, but this is mainly because he is a very long baby, with very long legs!!

We are however visiting the doctor tomorrow as i am now sure he has reflux, and needs some medication for it. As much as i try to help him through this without the meds he just seems to be in a lot of pain for a lot of the time. He has all the typical signs: He starts to look uncomfortable and cry after having some milk, he cries, pulls off the breast, wants it again, cries, pulls of the breast, etc. He spits up a lot, and seems to be in pain with it, he has wet frequent hiccups, painful burping, he is fussy during and after feeding and is difficult to get to sleep, even though i am doing everything i can, he is falling asleep then waking in pain and this can happen up to 6 times per nap so consequently i spend a lot of time trying to get him to sleep :roll: He also seems to sound very congested all the time which i understand to be a sign of reflux.

BJ, i agree with Amy, Red hates being swaddled but he cannot sleep with out it. When it was very hot here i just had him in a onesie, and i swaddle him in a flat crib sheet, i use a large one so that he cannot escape. He likes this so much more than with a blanket, and it is easier to swaddle with.

Here is our nap wind-down and it seems to be working well so far. At exactly 45 mins from the time he woke up (i time it, i do look for yawns too, but going on the clock is more reliable!!) I swaddle him, pick him up and hold him so his head is on my shoulder. I then pat his bottom and shush until he calms down and goes into the 'glazed stare'. He will fight me and takes up to 10 mins just to be still, but i think a lot of this is reflux related. Once he is in the trance i place him down in his crib, i then continue to shush and pat lightly his arm/ side (i prefer not to put him on his side), if he is well settled i will just place my arm and hand on him as not to overstimulate him, as the patting can do. I keep on gooing until i think i can leave. Note, this is not the first time he shuts his eyes, as he goes through some 'jolts' and wakes himself up completely and often i have to start patting and shushing again. Once i have put him down i try not to pick him up as i think this overstimualtes him even more.

Kayna, i think with two, we have to do the best we can. I am really working on naps especially when dh is not at work (he is a nurse so does shifts), but i have to allow for Ruby as well. If i cannot get him down (or more often the probelm is that he wakes after a short nap) then in the sling he goes. I figure it is a compromise that works for all :wink:  Do you think that Avery might need to go down before the first yawn rather than after it? Might she not be settling because she is already overtired by that stage? That is what Red is like and so i go by the clock and not by the yawns!

Anyones elses babe hate the car seat/ stroller? I feel trapped, what with working on naps and him yelling his head off if we go out i feel like if we leave the house i leave my comfort zone!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 27, 2005, 23:36:14 pm
Yay, today has gone so good so far. I think it must have been Avery's 6 week growth spurt that sent us in a tail spin because now today she seems to be sleeping it off. She slept through the night last night even (couldn't get her to sleep until 10pm but slept through until shortly after 6am). Now today she has gone down for her naps unassisted again.

Well, all except one and I'm not sure where I went wrong, advice please. We went for a walk and she slept in the Baby Bjorn for about an hour. She woke up as soon as I took her out. About 15 minutes later she was yawning, since it was close to feeding time I fed her but she didn't fall asleep and seemed wide eyed. I talked to her for awhile and she was very smiley and cooing. Finally she yawned (about 50ish minutes after wake up) and I went to do wind down. She started crying and after about 20 minutes of trying I had to just hold her tight until she melted into my arms before she fell asleep. Did I wait too long or should I have waited for more yawns? Clair...I'm wondering if you're right about watching the clock vs. the yawns but this mornings naps worked perfectly by waiting for a few yawns first. This is so hard.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 27, 2005, 23:59:33 pm
Hi all! I loved reading your posts....sounds exactly like what I have been doing. My Caeden is a little over 6 weeks old. He was 7#, 11 oz at birth, 8# 5 oz when we left the hopsital, 7#,10oz at 5 days and 10#, 2 oz at a month old. And I know he has grown since then! :-)
I have been trying to get him into a routine, I started a few weeks ago just doing the eat, activity and then sleep routine, not paying too much too the clock, just keeping some routine. I have been trying to get him consistent on a 3 hour eat schedule this week. We are breastfeeding. He is doing pretty good and unless he gets woken up or is having a long day he can usually go 3 hours or a bit more. He has been eating 10-15 minutes, maybe 20 on one side per feeding. Occassionally when he is acting still hungry after that I will offer him the other side, but he will usually only nurse 5-10 minutes there.
Sleeping has been a challenge so far - I would love any advice you may have from your own experiences! He naps good, when I catch him before he gets overtired and I hold/rock him to sleep. I have not minded this so much up to this point and have cherished the cuddle time, but this week he has not wanted to sleep once I put him down, even if he is sound asleep. The only time I can get him to sleep in his cradle is at night - he does fine then. But anytime during the day he wakes up within about 20 minutes. He sleeps okay in the swing and great in my arms or the sling. The sling works great when we are out, I know he will sleep and be good.
Nighttime - he has been going down between 7-8ish and sleeping till 12 and then after that he has been up every 2-3 hours till 5 or 6 and then he just catnaps till about 9 when he gets into his daytime routine. My husband leaves for work between 5-6 in the morning and part of our challenge is that Kieran loves to spend some play time with him before he goes. Caeden is usually up and then talk and visit and have a diaper change. But this also means that we are up for the day - or so it seems - as I can't sleep for more then about 20-30 minutes at a time after that!

So - sorry this is long - this is where where are and what we are doing! I love to hear what is working well for you all too!

Jen
Title: growth spurt?
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 03:04:19 am
How do you know that your baby is going through a growth spurt?  Do they eat more or less?  It seems that later in the day my son doesn't have much interest in finishing his bottle...sometimes he'll only eat half.  This is ok if it is around 7, but when we give him his last bottle around 10 or 11 I'd like him to eat it all since the cluster feed didn't work out for us.  He's been pretty fussy in the evenings the last few days and dh is frustrated b/c he thinks it's something he's doing since I usually let him take over when he gets home from work.  He's not doing anything differently than I would.  This fussiness just started this week.  He will be seven weeks on Friday.  Any clues?

I am going through a bit of a hard time "letting go" right now.  I have been so good about putting him down while he's awake and letting him sleep in his crib, but lately I just want to hold him ALL the time.  What's the deal?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 28, 2005, 03:15:44 am
Amy - I am thinking my ds has been going thru a growth spurt as well. He will 7 weeks on Sat. He has been eating like crazy, often every 2 hours during the day. Sometimes only 10 minutes and other times a good 20 minutes or longer.  He is doing okay at night, but still getting up kinda often 2-3 times.
It has also been really hot here and I think that may be making him more "thirsty" during the day and so he wants to nurse.
Don't know if that helps.... but they say 6 weeks is prime time for a growth spurt!
Jen
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on July 28, 2005, 03:21:07 am
Believe it or not, I am having the same prob with Cait.  Every time dh feeds her, she throws up, I feed her she is fine.  Dh got up for a night feed and I woke up 45 minutes later to Cait screaming her head off.  I went into the living room, took her from him and I am not exaggerating, in less than 15 minutes I had her calmed, asleep, in the crib and back in bed myself.  I can only guess that the ones who do most of the caretaking are what the kids are adapting themselves to and a "different" way is just too upsetting to their routine?  For instance, I sing "you are my sunshine" and it is only my tone and cadence that is soothing to her since I have been singing it since before she was born.  If dh starts to sing it, she literally boos him and gets a hook to take him off the stage.  Really sucks for us moms, this means we don't get many breaks.  :roll:

Havent' noticed too much of a spurt with Cait, but she has slept all day long.  We left the house at 10:15 am and got home at 8:30 pm.  And I have had success in putting her in her crib while very drowsy, not quite asleep.  I think my mistake was waiting till she was fully asleep and once her "position" changed, it startled her and woke her up.

Amy, are you about to go back to work or are you a SAHM?  If going back to work , maybe the impending return is causing you to be clingy?  What can we say, our kids come by it naturally.
bj
Title: .
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 03:30:54 am
Hm, well, I wish I knew what the problem was.  during the day he's a great eater...drains a 5 oz bottle every 4 hrs, but at night seems to only want 3ozin the same time period
Title: work
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 03:34:02 am
I am about to go back.  I am a teacher, so hours are good...I just know I will miss him so much
Title: sleep!!!
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 07:49:15 am
Yes, I know this is three posts in a row for me....but I had to share.

A friend of mine gave me a tip and it worked...I swaddled ds and put him in his crib so that his head was touching the bumper pad.  I guess it makes him feel a little more closed in and secure b/c he slept almost five hours that way!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 28, 2005, 09:02:28 am
That's interesting.... I was concerned cause Caeden keeps waking up with his head all the way up there. I guess maybe he likes it!
Title: little heads
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 13:04:07 pm
I guess it makes them feel like someone's hand is there, or maybe it reminds them of being in the womb with their head pressed up against our pelvis...who knows.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 28, 2005, 14:34:15 pm
Last night sucked butt big time. Avery woke up promptly every 2 1/2 hours.  :evil: Could I have been wrong and she is just now going through a growth spurt??????????? How could she sleep from 10pm til 6am one night to this the next night? Man, I'm tired!   :x
Title: :-(
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 14:38:11 pm
Luke slept through the night for three days in a row at 5 weeks...we thought we were so lucky....it was only for three days.

This too shall pass!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 28, 2005, 15:33:31 pm
Oh how I would love one or 2 nights of sleeping all the way thru! I cannot wait for that day!
Title: me too
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 19:13:18 pm
Well, it was only luck because he hasn't done it since.  He's up every night around 2:30 or 3:30.  Last night he let us go until 4:30...after not going down until 12:30
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 28, 2005, 19:41:34 pm
Wow i guess i'm kinda lucky then? Red goes down at 7pm, dreamfeed at 10.30pm and then goes until between 4am-5.30am. What a good chap he is (sometimes!!)
Title: .
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 20:09:43 pm
It's not nice to rub it in!!!!!  :P
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 28, 2005, 21:09:50 pm
I'm with you on that one Amy! You keep that kinda news to yourself Clair,  :wink: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 28, 2005, 21:33:37 pm
Sorry, not gloating :oops:  :oops:  :wink:  You can read about our other traumas in the Reflux board!! Bloody doctors, i hate the fact that Red is in pain a lot and they seem to want to stand in the way of relieving him of that pain :evil:  :evil:

Another subject completely: how are all you guys doing with post partum weight loss (and i don't need to hear you gloat on this one BJ  :wink:  :wink: ) Anyone else still fat and huge like me??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 22:01:32 pm
Me!!  I gained 60lbs...have lost 35 but that was all swelling.  Weight Watchers works, though!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on July 28, 2005, 22:34:23 pm
I gained 35 pounds and have about 7 to go. But NOTHING fits right. I had to buy a few new clothes in a bigger size for the summer. And I have decided that JEANS ARE EVIL.  :twisted:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on July 28, 2005, 23:16:01 pm
I have to go back to work in two weeks and as it is now, looks like I will be going naked...I bet that will scare the snot out of my students!  All of my early maternity clothes are from fall/winter and I'd burn up if I wore them!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on July 29, 2005, 02:22:52 am
Ok, I am TOTALLY frustrated!!!  My son takes a bottle, he's been on formula solely since he was a week old.  His eating schedule has been very consistent.  In fact, it's been the only consistent thing.  Last week I tried the cluster feed before bed and that was a nightmare, so I didn't try it again.  He likes his routine.  Well, I just don't get it.  He usually eats about five oz every four hours.  He had a six oz bottle at 5:30 (which I was surprised that he took it ALL) and at 9:15 woke up and acted hungry.  I thought,  "Great!  This will hopefully be the last bottle of the night until he wakes up around 3 for another!)  Well, he only took two ounces because he was completely and TOTALLY asleep!  :evil:   I don't get it!   Nothing, and I mean NOTHING wakes him up when he's really asleep, which I suppose should be a good thing, but I really wish he would take the whole feeding.  I don't do the dream feed because it wouldn't work anyway.  Anyone else out there frustrated?  Just when I think I have it all figured out.... :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 29, 2005, 23:59:35 pm
hey amystoker - I am with you - I too gained about 60 pounds and have about 30-35 to go yet. I cannot fit into any of my pre-pregnancy pants and only a couple of my shirts - mostly sleeveless sweaters and tee-shirts - everything else is too tight across my bust!
I ended up going to Goodwill and found several pairs of pants and capris and a couple tops too - without spending a bunch of money - cause I don't intend to stay this size for long!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on July 30, 2005, 00:59:19 am
Yeah, I'm with you ladies! With my first I gained 44lbs and it came right off and then some (thank you, God)  :lol:  but this time I gained 33lbs and I still have about 12 left to go almost seven weeks later. What gives?????? I'm refusing to buy new clothes so I'm sweating my butt off (not literally unfortunately) in a couple pair of jeans that fit in 90+ degree weather. It sucks! I did manage to buy a few tops in order to fit the "new" boobs. I'm in a wedding in October and this body better be able to cram itself back into it's ole' size by then :!:  :!:  :!:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 30, 2005, 15:44:54 pm
Oh yeah!
Caeden went to bed last night at 9 and slept till 3, was back in bed at 3:30 and slept till 6:30. Got up and played with daddy and nursed and played some more and then went back to sleep at 8:30. I put him in his cradle and he is still asleep at 9:45! This is a record for napping in the cradle - we usually only get 30 minutes at best!
I know - it may not last, but I am happy for a little progress!
Title: Hello
Post by: lins on July 30, 2005, 17:06:32 pm
Just wanted to join in here - little Jem was born June 23rd - I bought the Baby Whisperer book on Wednesday from Amazon - read it on Thursday (whilst doing all the wrong things - I let him sleep on my knee just so he would be quiet long enough for me to read it!) and started on Thursday night.  Was demented as he never slept through the day without being rocked / cuddled / pushed in his pram - I suddenly realised that when the help dried up I would never be able to get washed again!  Results not too bad - he slept in his cot during the day for the first time yesterday and after trying the dream feeds last night he slept from 22.30 when he finished feeding to 5am - not bad for 5 weeks old - although he is a big baby - about 12lbs+.  Really glad I found this site - made me realise I am normal first time mum and not evil torturer which I had started to believe with all the crying.
Have to go and feed / bath now.  Speak soon.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on July 30, 2005, 17:50:28 pm
I am just trying to figure out when I get less tired....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on July 30, 2005, 18:13:18 pm
let me know when you figure that out! :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on July 30, 2005, 19:23:20 pm
Quote from: amystoker
I am just trying to figure out when I get less tired....

Tee hee! I remember feeling human again with Ruby at about the 12 week mark, that is when i felt i was more in control, we only had one night waking and i was beginning to get a life again!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: DeannaB on July 31, 2005, 01:56:27 am
Hello everyone!  I just now found this thread.  Don't really have time to read all the previous posts so I'll just jump in now.  :)

So far with us 3 is the charm.  Micah is the biggest sweetheart (God knew what he was doing to give us an easy 3rd baby.....He certainly knows we went through enough with our first to last us a lifetime!)

Yesterday Micah was 1 month old.  He's starting to smile some and make sweet lil baby coos.  He especially does for his big brother.  He is nursing well and we just switched over to single side feedings.  We are working on a lil sleep training and he gives me 5-6 hours at night which is a blessing when the other 2 get up at the crack of dawn and my day starts so early!

But I'm definately worn out at the end of every day feeding, cleaning, taking care of 3 small children!  But I wouldn't have it any other way.  :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 01, 2005, 01:10:41 am
Question: What do you all do when your lo gets overtired and won't go down for naps/bedtime? Avery will not sleep and quickly gets overtired (and then overstimulated) if she is not at home and sticking with a very strict schedule. I feel trapped and honestly don't have a lifestyle that lets me stay home every single day. Am I just being selfish? I see other parents out and about with their babies all the time. What gives??????????
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 01, 2005, 02:36:09 am
Well, I don't know.  I am trying to figure that out myself and this is my first one.   What I have found with my seven week old is that he can stay up for about an hour and a half tops and then he needs to go down.  I try to get him down by the fourth yawn...the first two are too soon.  If I have an errand to run or something to do and I want to take him, I try to time it so that it's right after he wakes up and eats, or I put him in his car seat after the third yawn and drive around for a little bit until he's good and asleep before I get out to run my errand.  I have left an hour early to get some places, but it seems to work out. 

It will all change in a few days though because school starts soon and I am a teacher.  The day care will (I'm sure) do things differently than I would, but I am reminding myself daily that those ladies love babies and have my baby's best interest at heart.

So, why have I cried my eyeballs out for three days straight?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 01, 2005, 21:23:59 pm
Quote from: Kayna
Question: What do you all do when your lo gets overtired and won't go down for naps/bedtime? Avery will not sleep and quickly gets overtired (and then overstimulated) if she is not at home and sticking with a very strict schedule. I feel trapped and honestly don't have a lifestyle that lets me stay home every single day. Am I just being selfish? I see other parents out and about with their babies all the time. What gives??????????

Oh Kayna, we are going through the very same thing here :cry:  :cry:  Some days i feel so bad for Ruby cos we don't leave the house and she is parked up in front of the Tv all day, and other days i feel bad for Red as we get out and about and do fun stuff for Ruby which completely messes up his day. I think we have to find a balance of the two, what i have been doing is staying in the house in the morning and getting Red two good naps, then Ruby has her nap (12-2) and we most often go out from 2.30pm-5.30pm. Red feeds at 4pm ish and after this feed i pop him in the sling to ensure he has at least a short nap before bath and bed.

As for what i do when he is overtired, the answer is i have no idea!! We had a nightmare today, he would not sleep and was awake for about 3 hours :shock: before he went to sleep, and this is the kid who cannot stay up for more than 45 mins usually! Is was because he wouldn't nap without his binky and of course as soon as he dropped it he woke right up :x  So i got him up and fed him and then put him back down, well he would just not settle, and i patted and shushed for all i was worth, but he just screamed. In the end i felt i had to leave for a while just to regain my composure, i hope no one will persecute me for admitting this, but sometimes i find myself patting just that bit too hard and then i know it is time to leave the room for a minute. He relaxes no problem in my arms, and will go off in his crib, but he jolts awake so many times and comes completely back to awake that i have to start again, it winds me up no end. Poor little man cried himself to sleep today and i cried with him, sometimes i just don't know how to help him. I am torn between what is the right thing to do (ie, patting and shushing, putting him down awake, no binky etc) but often putting him down asleep or with the binky is so much easier, even if it is a quick fix.

We are definitly on the 45 minute naps though, so annoying. Even when he is not tired and gone down well he will wake after 45 mins, It is just so annoying. He will go back down but it requires another 15-20 mins locked in a dark room with an upset baby and when he starts to stir i just *sigh* :oops:  :(

Kayna, does Avery sleep in the stroller/ car seat?? Red hates them and that makes me hate going out even more! He is happy (after a while) in the sling, so when we are out he spends a lot of time in that. Its not a great idea for teaching sleep, but what can you do??!!

Amy, i'm sorry you are feeling down, this stage stinks, but just remember that this will pass, and before long you will be going for #2!!
Title: New to this
Post by: EllieLock on August 01, 2005, 21:30:38 pm
Hi there,  I've just found this forum after ordering the Baby whisperer book and not being able to wait til it arrived :)

I have a baby daughter called Nyah who was 2 weeks old yesterday.  Have been having serious troubles with excessive crying and was recommended this site.

Hope to talk to you all some more soon - must go feed her now.

Cheers,
Ellie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 01, 2005, 22:25:40 pm
Clair - I know what you mean about the sling.... Caeden loves his and usually goes right to sleep or sits happy in it. I wish there was a safe way to keep him in and drive :) I hate having to get him in and out a bunch of times as aI go around doing errands, but he tends to just cry if I leave him in the carseat! Thanks God for Wal-Mart - I often can get all the shopping done at one place!
Not sure what to say about an overtired baby... I am still figuring it out myself! Sometimes when we are out Caeden will sleep well, other times not! Yesterday was hard, it was our anniversary and so we were out most of the day - it was also one of the first times daddy was out with us for that long so it was quite and eye-opener for him too :)
I am finding sometimes it just takes longer to do stuff and to just relax and go with the flow. Not getting upset that it now takes me twice as long to get to the bank and post office cause I stop to calm Caeden down, or nurse him or put him back to sleep - it has helped me to just relax and enjoy him as a baby. I know before I know it I will be chasing a toddler!
So - hang in there!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 02, 2005, 01:09:59 am
Clair, I do believe we are living such similar lives right now. I feel like I could have written your post verbatim only exchanging Ruby and Red's name for Daikon and Avery.

Avery also hates the car seat/stroller on most days. Unless I catch her right when she would normally go down for a nap. I too have been just using my Baby Bjorn when out and about and that doesn't even always guarantee a nap. I have to put a blankie over top of her to block out stimulation. She is so touchy.

We too will suffer days of the 45 minute nap. I wonder though today if I stumbled onto something. Noelle (JohnandZoesmom) loaned me her swaddler blankets and one of them is made out of fleece and does not stretch at all. When Avery starts waking at the 45 minute mark she was getting herself out of her swaddle (my others are stretchy fabric) and not able to resettle herself (arms and legs just flopping around).  After I got the fleece blanket washed today I started using it again and she was able to calm herself back to sleep (since she was still snug as a bug). Not sure if that's exactly the key but will be keeping a close eye on that..... :wink:

Last night Avery was so overtired from being out and about all day (therefore not napping for crap) that she slept from 7:30pm (dh gave a dreamfeed at 10pm) until 6am and then straight back down until 8am. It's so nice to get those long nights of sleep but I wish it wasn't because she was exhausted  :cry:.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 02, 2005, 21:21:10 pm
Clair, your avatar is adorable. Ruby is sooooooooo cute!!!!!!! :lol:  8)  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 02, 2005, 21:44:00 pm
Kayna, it is so great to know that someone else is right there with me!! Obviously i wish you weren't struggling too, but it is somewhat reassuring :wink:  :wink:

I agree that Ruby is just too cute, unfortunatley she has the attitude of a hormonal 13 year old at the moment!! Is it teeth, new-baby or just being 22 months? Who knows? but it certainly is a case of tantrums and plently of tears in this house right now. Not to mention that she favours the word NO! over any other!!

I swaddle using a flat crib sheet (a standard size one) it is big and wraps around him several times, but i swear he is a magician at wriggling out if i use a smaller sheet. Have you seen/ considered the miracle blanket? I have heard fantastic things about it. One thing i do, if it is not too hot and i want him to sleep when we are in the car, is i swaddle, but with the legs out and then pop him in the car seat (legs out so you can do it up) this seems to help him sleep in it, but it has been too hot for that here recently.

We have had some stinking nights here. He has gone from waking once at 5am, to waking at 3.30am, then again at 5.30am then again at 7am. this is not good, and i am exhausted, especially as at the 5,30am waking he is not hungry and just fussy. This morning he would just not go back to sleep. He wouldn't feed, wouldn't co-sleep, wouldn't take his paci, just cried.  I was so tired and upset that i walked away from him and to my shame punched the door!! I was just so mad, like why won't he sleep?? And i am so not a morning/ night person that i cannot think straight and act very irrationally until i have had a shower and woken up fully. I was now very upset and dh was with Red. He eventually settled him (i don't know how - paci i think!) and came and consoled me.

I feel terrible for reacting this way, it is just because i am tired and not good at night. I also feel like we have regressed. It is not like he is hungrier during the day, he is not having a growth spurt so why have we moved backwards?

Napping is going ok, as long as we are in the house!! He gets swaddled and will settle by himself if i get him down in the window, otherwise forget it. We have had to resort to the paci, and still do when he 45 minute naps as there is no other way to get him back off to sleep! He has his last nap of the day (4.30pm-6pm ish) in the sling so i can a) guarantee a nap and b) get Ruby her tea and get sorted.

My napping problems occur when he 45 min naps and gets overtired. I cannot get him to sleep then and yesterday he cried himself to sleep (with me there) because i just couldn't help him. He did not want to be held, he couldn't keep his dummy in and he was a mess. What should i do in this situation? Give up on sleep? But then he is getting even more overtired for when i try to put him down later.

Blech, heres hoping for a good night tonight!

In other news (!) he is very constipated :cry: He is on Gaviscon (an infant food thickener) for reflux. It is working but it is bunging him up so much. His poop went from a normal BF baby poop to slightly thick and formed and now it is pellets :shock:  :cry: He is really struggling with it, so i halved the dose of gaviscon for one feed and almost immediatley the reflux symptons came back. He was miserable again, in fact i had forgotton how miserable he was before he was on it. This means we will go back to the GP again and get a referal to the paed at the hospital to be prescribed some zantac, as my GP can't do so.

Gosh i have got to go and achieve something else other than typing out my life story!! :lol:  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 02, 2005, 21:48:41 pm
so....my dreamfeed isn't going so great, I think.

Cait will eat between 7-8pm and then goes to sleep and then about 10:30 I try to do a dream feed, but she only goes to 2-3 am.....does this sound right?  Last night, I feed her about 10:45ish and she went to 4:19 am.  Am I expecting too much of an almost 8 week old?  I know I shouldn't compare Ry and Cait, but Ry WAS sleeping at 8 weeks...and I dont' see Cait following that same pattern.  Any ideas?  She doesn't wake up at the Df.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 02, 2005, 23:18:20 pm
I don't know bj..... Last night Caeden went down at 7:15, I did a dreamfeed at 10:15ish and he slept till 4:30 and I was thrilled, I feel like we are making a little progress - of course 6 or 7 would be ideal, but I think that is pretty good for the moment. I am hoping we get progressively longer over the next couple weeks.

About the dreamfeed - I am struggling with whether to do it or not. DH and I try and be in bed by 9 as he gets up by 5ish or sometimes earlier for work, so it is often easier for me to just get up for a couple hours and occassionally the day by 4:30 or 5, feed Caeden, make DH's lunch and get him off to work and then put Caeden back down and depending on my day's plans good back to bed or get ready.
It is hard to get up after going to bed and sleeping to wake Caeden for a DF at 10:30 or 11 - I have been doing it when we are still up at that time, but I have not been waking myself up to do if we go to bed.
Any opinions.... am I better off long-term to try and do a dream feed and fget him sleeping longer into the morning or letting him get up earlier and not dreamfeeding? Would it be any benefit to dreamfeed earlier - say 9ish?

Other then that we have been having a good couple days - he has been eating more regularly and I have been trying really hard to keep him up for at least an hour between naps. We are still struggling with the 45 minute naps, but about half the time I am getting him back to sleep or he is making it 1 1/2 to 2 hours on his own (like in the sling when we are out or in his carseat :) - not in the bed :?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 03, 2005, 01:34:23 am
Quote from: rooby-rooby-roo
I was so tired and upset that i walked away from him and to my shame punched the door!! I was just so mad, like why won't he sleep??

Well Clair, here we are again. Today I got so frusterated with Avery (I couldn't get her back to sleep after waking up from a 45 min. nap) that I laid her in her crib and went into our bed room and screamed at the top of my lungs then (because I'm a bigger wimp than you) started punching my pillow.  It actually worked to blow that steam off though.  :oops: 

Also, great idea about swaddeling in the car seat. I think that would help Avery sleep in it (as long as it's cool enough  :wink: ) and I may have to give the sheet a try. I haven't seen the miracle blanket but read somewhere about one.

BJ: last night Avery got a dream feed at 10:45pm as well and slept until 4:50am. Like Caeden'sMama I was thrilled with that. I think your little Cait seems to be doing great but I hear ya.......I'm ready for uninterrupted nights.  :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 03, 2005, 01:35:10 am
Dream Feed doesn't work out so great for us either.  We usually give a bottle around 10:30 or 11 b/c that's when he's due to eat anyway.  On the off chance that he eats at 7, I'll still give him something at around 11,  just so we don't have to get up and do it at midnight.  He wakes around 3 or 4 usually...

On a side note, today was Luke's first day at daycare for a half day.  I am a teacher and don't officially start until next Wed, but thought this would be a good transition for me and allow me time to set up my classroom since I am in a new school this year.  I bawled my eyes out when I left him.  Then I went to school, was working on a bulletin board and stabbed myself in the palm of the hand with the scissors and had to go to the ER.  No stitches b/c not wide enough, but very deep, and am so glad that I have Vica-profin left from my c-section!! 

Thanks for coming to my pitty party!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 03, 2005, 01:35:22 am
Dream Feed doesn't work out so great for us either.  We usually give a bottle around 10:30 or 11 b/c that's when he's due to eat anyway.  On the off chance that he eats at 7, I'll still give him something at around 11,  just so we don't have to get up and do it at midnight.  He wakes around 3 or 4 usually...

On a side note, today was Luke's first day at daycare for a half day.  I am a teacher and don't officially start until next Wed, but thought this would be a good transition for me and allow me time to set up my classroom since I am in a new school this year.  I bawled my eyes out when I left him.  Then I went to school, was working on a bulletin board and stabbed myself in the palm of the hand with the scissors and had to go to the ER.  No stitches b/c not wide enough, but very deep, and am so glad that I have Vica-profin left from my c-section!! 

Thanks for coming to my pitty party!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 03, 2005, 08:02:39 am
Quote from: bj&ry
so....my dreamfeed isn't going so great, I think.

Cait will eat between 7-8pm and then goes to sleep and then about 10:30 I try to do a dream feed, but she only goes to 2-3 am.....does this sound right?  Last night, I feed her about 10:45ish and she went to 4:19 am.  Am I expecting too much of an almost 8 week old?  I know I shouldn't compare Ry and Cait, but Ry WAS sleeping at 8 weeks...and I dont' see Cait following that same pattern.  Any ideas?  She doesn't wake up at the Df.

bj

A couple of thoughts BJ: So you saw progress last night right, in that she woke at 4.19am rather than 2-3am? The DF takes a while to take effect if you like, they are so used to waking at 2-3am that it can take up to 2 weeks for them to realise they are not hungry at that time and wake later. It sounds like Cait is doing that slowly.

One other thing is that i have always woken my babies for the 'DF' as i have found that to get further through the night they need to be awake for 10 minutes at 10.30-11pm. I literally wake him, do a nappy change, feed him and by the time he has finished feeding he is asleep again and is no trouble to settle.

We had a better night thank God! He went through to 5am again, then was awake at 7am so i fed him and put him down again, and he is still asleep now (9am) YAY!!

He also did his first huge smile at me this morning!! He has been doing small 'smirks' for a week or so, but today was a huge gummy mouth wide open smile!! Makes it worth it (!)

Kayna {{{{HUGS}}}} hon i am right with you!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Poppy & Lily on August 03, 2005, 08:48:42 am
clair...have you read gina ford at all? i only ask because my dd was a gina ford baby to start with and then i changed over.  reds routine sounds exactly the same as what dd's was?  ie: waking him for 10 mins in DF, split feeds etc....

Sorry hope you don't think i'm being rude or anything, just curious! :oops:  :D

xx
Title: HELP!
Post by: Critter on August 03, 2005, 19:00:12 pm
Ok girls, I need to vent (and cry) a little bit

Trent picked Luke up at the daycare at12:30 and there was a new girl in there that didn't know Trent from Adam...didn't ask for ID or anything and the door that opens up to the street was unlocked.  Plus, yesterday they told me that they would prefer his bottles were premade so that they didn't have to mix them.  I made them this morning and put them in his diaper bag.  THEY LEFT THEM IN THERE ALL DAY!  You can't leave them unrefrigerated for that long or it goes bad.  When they got his first bottle out of his diaper bag at 11 (He'd been there since 7:30!!!!!) they should have seen the second one!!!!  AND FURTHERMORE, THEY SHOULD HAVE POURED IT OUT AND MADE HIM A FRESH ONE!!!

To top it all off, I spent 15 minutes the other day writing his name on all of his bottles and tops...maybe not 15 minutes, but it took a while...and the empty bottle in his bag had big black magic marker "Luke" in ugly handwriting on it when I had already labled the darn things.  I know that's petty, but it just sent me over the edge.

Oh yeah, did I mention that while I was working in my classroom I stabbed myself in the palm of my hand with scissors yesterday and had to go to the ER because of it? 

WAAAAHHHHH!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 03, 2005, 20:24:33 pm
Oh Amy big hugs. I'm sooo sorry your daycare is NOT doing it's job. I can't imagine how stressed you are in the first place having to leave your lo but then to deal with this as well.  I wish I had some words of wisdom but just know that I'm thinking of you and that awful situation.  :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 03, 2005, 22:03:26 pm
Quote from: poppy pop
clair...have you read gina ford at all? i only ask because my dd was a gina ford baby to start with and then i changed over.  reds routine sounds exactly the same as what dd's was?  ie: waking him for 10 mins in DF, split feeds etc....

Sorry hope you don't think i'm being rude or anything, just curious! :oops:  :D

xx

You are absolutley right Poppy! I read both when dd was born, and followed EASY until dd was old enough to be on a more regimented routine (about 5 months). Its my way of doing things - reading everything i can and then doing it my way anyway!! Honestly, i think that Gina Ford's book is useful, it is a good routine FOR AN OLDER BABY, but i think the way the book is written really puts a lot of people off (it is very prescriptive). We are on 3 hour easy, with bits of the CLBB mixed in!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 04, 2005, 19:55:50 pm
Oh Amy, that is horrible!! I am so sorry you are having such a bad time with your daycare!!!  Is there someone there you can address your concerns with?
And how is the hand??


Okay...here is my problem.  For the last two nights I haven't even been able to do DF because the little girl REFUSES TO GO TO SLEEP.  I am about at my wits end.  I have no idea what to do.  Here is what I did last night....thought I was being real smart....evidently not.

Got home about 6:30 from picking up Cait from DH (we have a 45 minute commute from work to home)

Ran her bath, bathed her, did a baby massage with calming lotion, and got her all bundled up in warm jammies and by the time all of this was done, it was now time for her bottle at 7 pm.  I thought great!!!  I will feed her, and then toss her into the crib and spend time with Ry and then do DF at about 9:30/10 ish.   Yeah...best laid plans all for naught.  The child NEVER went to sleep.  She was awake and alert from the time I picked her up at 5:45 until 10pm!!!!!  Now, mind you, she wasn't cranky but for a couple of episodes, but was wide awake.  And what was just as frustrating was that I had been up since 5 am that morning, worked all day (10 hours) came home and then wasn't able to get to bed till after 10 pm AND she got  back up at 2am, had a bottle and then proceeded to stay up AGAIN until 5:30 am!!!!   Please advise me on what I can do, I have got to get some more sleep.  4-6 hours is just not doing it.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Poppy & Lily on August 04, 2005, 21:19:25 pm
hi clair...

Thanks for your reply...i was beginning to think i was the only one that has ever read gina ford.. :oops: my friends all think she is too strict and regimental, which in all fairness she is sometimes, but like you i found some of her stuff worked for me and i also mixed the two togeather! and threw a few of my own 'rules' in! :wink:

 :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Poppy & Lily on August 04, 2005, 21:19:48 pm
hi clair...

Thanks for your reply...i was beginning to think i was the only one that has ever read gina ford.. :oops: my friends all think she is too strict and regimental, which in all fairness she is sometimes, but like you i found some of her stuff worked for me and i also mixed the two togeather! and threw a few of my own 'rules' in! :wink:

 :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 04, 2005, 21:27:58 pm
OMG bj :shock: What a shocker! Little madam! I only know that the longer Red is awake the harder it is for us to get him to go to sleep. If he is awake longer than 1 hour then we are for it :roll:  In these cases i resort to 'accidental parenting' doing things i know i shouldn't be in order to get him to sleep! Using a binky, rocking, cuddling, patting/shushing. One thing i do is place a light blanket over his eyes, cutting out the visual stimulation helps loads. I know it wouldn't have helped being there with Ry, but i would not have left the room till he was asleep, keeping it all dark, swaddling, stroking head, shushing etc.

How did you play it? Was she with you while you had your evening, or did you stay in her room? How long had she been awake before bedtime, had she napped well during the day? Was she gassy/ hungry at all? I would probably of stuffed her full of very warm milk!!

We are having alternate good days/ bad days over here, some nights he goes through till 5am, others just till 3am! This am it was 3.30am (i fed him), 5.30am (no feed, but woke after just 45 mins :x ) 6.15am (feed, again just slept 45 mins) 7.30am (fed again out of desperation) then he slept till 9.30am, and we got back on our 3hourly routine. These mornings are just killing me!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 04, 2005, 21:42:39 pm
She had been awake for nearly 4 hours!!!  But wasn't really cranky, just not tired.  She had slept most of the day though, and that is because with dh working nights, he has to sleep at some point also.  If I put her in the crib, she is fine for a bit, but then starts screaming bloody murder, and I know her cries which one she is just fussing herself to sleep (not often) and which ones are "no way in hell".  So I ended up picking her back up and rocking, walking, shushing, and patting.  I pretty much gave up and figured she would go to sleep when she felt like it and she did.  I asked dh today to please do some activity time with her today so that I dont' get in this predicament again tonight.  We shall see.  And sometimes she will only take 3 oz and that is it, I can't get her to eat more, but then sometimes she will take all 6 oz.  I swear, she is just all over the place.  You can never predict her....typical woman!!!! :roll:  :lol:   And I did give her Mylicon gas drops just in case that was the problem during one of her "cranky fits".  Guess I try it again tonight.  Wish me luck.  And thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 04, 2005, 23:17:23 pm
BJ,
Welcome to our world!!  I guess our little babes just want to be with their mamas!!!!

The had is better, thanks for asking  :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 05, 2005, 00:28:44 am
Well, I spoke with the day care director and she apologized profusely for what happened yesterday.  The caregiver that is normally with the infants was off yesterday and they had one new girl in there with a lady who normally works in the toddler room.  When the toddler room gal stepped out for a minute, that happened to be when my husband got there.  Anyway, it's all ok.  All of the problems have been addressed and corrected and I got MAAAAAAAANY apologies.  This is the best day care facility in town from what I can tell from my research and from my girlfriends' experiences, but I guess it just goes to show you that even the best isn't good enough when it comes to your own baby!

Now for a question....has anyone else's baby started to spit up more and more?  Is it just b/c he's getting older?  I have seen reflux in action and I do not think that is his problem....thank goodness!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 05, 2005, 13:53:22 pm
Well I am so glad to hear that you took action and addressed the daycare issue and are very happy with the response you got.  Nothing like piece of mind where your child is concerned.  From what you said, it does sound as though it were just a "fluke" type of situation and isn't the norm. 

As for the spitting up, last week dh was starting to worry about Cait because EVERY time HE fed her, she would spit up large amounts.  It almost got to the point where he didn't want to feed her, I think.  My dh is a very hands on type of dad, he will tackle any baby duty without asking or complaint(well....middle of night feedings get some grumbling...but it is hard to tell who is grumbling louder, me or him  :roll:  :wink: )  And I dont' remember is your lo is a week older or a week younger than Cait...so if it is a week younger, I would say maybe a normal "growing up" phase????  She has since stopped doing that and been fine.  And Clair...I havent' really noticed any reflux lately either, so maybe if Red has a slight case, he too will grow out of it in the next few weeks.

I have great news!!!!  Cait went 9 hours between feedings and slept for 7 HOURS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D  :D  :D  :shock:  :o
There is a GOD!!!!  Yes, I know it is too much to expect a repeat performance again tonight, but I am hopeful.  She ate at around 9pm and went to sleep at 11:15 (after a small battle) and didnt' stir until 6:15 am.  Oh, I so wanted to do a happy dance, but was afraid I would wake up dh and Ry (dh got home at 5:30 am).  So I fed her and put her back to bed at 7am and she is still asleep.  Ry is up watching cartoons, ate breakfast, I got a shower and a coke and am typing you guys.  For the moment....Life is good.   :lol:  :roll:  :wink:
Oh...and she is 8 weeks old today!!  woohoo!!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 05, 2005, 14:07:27 pm
I think I have said this before...it's not nice to rub it in!!! :-)

Luke is exactly 8 weeks old today, so maybe he and Clair are on the same track...except for the sleeping.  He goes a six hour stretch in the middle of the day and I would cut off my toe for him to shift that to night!  I just have a thing about waking up a baby.  I think their bodies know better than we do what they need.  We're getting a little closer to being able to do our own little version of a cluster feed at night, so maybe he'll start going longer, but for now, he still wakes at 4:30 for a feeding.  Grrr....oh well.  At least he's beautiful, happy and healthy!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 05, 2005, 14:08:20 pm
OOPS!  I mean Cait, Clair is in England!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 05, 2005, 14:32:38 pm
LOL...I read "Clair" and I thought, huh????  LOL

And by NO means, am I rubbing it in.  I am sure I will be back tomorrow all bleary eyed, whining again!!!!!  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

But for now, I am the happiest mommy.  :lol:

So, Luke was born 6-10-05 also?  Very cool.  What time?  Cait was hatched at 8:11 am, if I remember correctly.  I always want to get her birth weight mixed up with her birth time.  8:11 am vs. 8 lbs 9 oz.  :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 05, 2005, 15:09:26 pm
He was born at 5:57pm....I was admitted to the hosp to be induced on Tuesday the 7th...he took his sweet time getting here and was ultimately born via c-section....8lbs 8oz and 20 1/2 inches long.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 05, 2005, 18:39:00 pm
Yay Cait!! Hopefully it won't be a one off and she'll continue doing this from now on. I just cannot believe you are at work, blows my mind that you are back so soon post-partum. I'm still at the stage where leaving the house with 2 is blowing my mind, let alone a full day at work away from may babies. Geez i haven't left Red with anyone yet, not even DH!

Kayna - are you a SAHM or are you going back to work at some point? I will go back right after Xmas. What do you all do as a job?? I am a nurse. I am also training to be a childbirth educator.

We are REALLY struggling with our nights now :cry:  :cry:  He is just getting worse and worse. This mornig it was 3am (went back to sleep), 3.30am (fed him), 5.30am (fed him) then he would not go back to sleep until about 7.30am - I cannot take this!! Tonight i am going to try doing the DF earlier as it has been creeping later and later, last few nights has been around 11pm ish. Maybe i am disrupting a sleep cycle or something that means he is less settled for the rest of the night, or maybe cos he does 4 hours between 7pm-11pm then another 4 hours between 11pm-3am he cannot last out for another four hours between 3am-7am?? So if i feed at 10pm (ie 3 hours from last feed) it may work better - who bloody knows but it is worth a try at this stage!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 05, 2005, 19:28:16 pm
Yes, I too, hope this isn't a fluke type of thing with the sleeping through the night.  It would def. make my life a whole easier.  Maybe if Cait is starting to get the swing of things, Red shouldn't be too far behind.  And doesnt' it always get worse before it gets better?  Just hold on tight, it is always a bumpy ride with these little ones.  And I truly think they are aware that we dance to their tune 24/7!!!! :roll:  :roll:

Yes, there are days that I am totally not ready to be back at work and then there are days like today that Ry is driving me crazy, that I am running for the door.  I am an Office Manager Asst.   My boss is really great, because this position has never existed before now, but she really likes how I do things, that after Ry was born I was able to tell them that I only wanted to work 20 hours a week/3 days a week.  But then when we got pregnant with Cait I went up to 30 hours/4 days so that I could have the same medical ins. that we had when Ry was born so that I could have the same dr who delivered Ry, deliver Cait.  I am weird about that, I guess...even had each kid on the same date of the month, the 10th.

I think after the 3rd one though, I am going to stay home.  Or at least, that is what I think for now.  I still have 19 months to see if that is really what I want to do.

bj
Title: Can sympathise!
Post by: EllieLock on August 05, 2005, 22:06:04 pm
Can sympathise with the wide awake baby.  Currently sat here in the living room with Nyah asleep on DH.  Tried to put her down at 7 and it's taken til now to get her to close her eyes  :shock:   She's been grizzly and grumpy, and occasionally angry, but soothable most of the time unlike when she was really colic-y.  Feeding soothes her but don't think she's really hungry, she's been feeding really well, for an hour sometimes, will go down for 5 or 10 minutes then starts bawling again.  We've given in and are resorting to a pacifier but she doesn't really like them that much.

She'll be 3 weeks on Sunday.

Bah, she's just woken up, I think we're in for a long night  :cry:   Not sure what else to try other than taking her for a drive.

Wahhhhhhhh  :cry:

Ellie
& Nyah - now crying again :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 05, 2005, 22:16:39 pm
Bless your heart!  Have you swaddled her TIGHT??  That works wonders with my ds!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 06, 2005, 13:27:22 pm
Yes, I'm a SAHM. I'm very fortunate, DH has a good job and I'm able/want to stay home. I do have my own business on the side though just to get me out of the house and do a little book work (keep the brain ticking and give the college degree a work out). I'm a ....................................CLOWN!!! Yup, just got done doing a gig today. I specialize in balloon art and face painting. It's pretty fun being the life of the party.

Avery has been sleeping awesome lately. I'm just thrilled. She's been going down by 8pm (df at 10pm) and sleeping until 5am or later. This morning I woke her at 6:30am because I desperately needed her to nurse (dh gives her a bottle for the df). She then eats for 20 minutes and goes right back down again until 8:30am. So I've been getting more than 8 hours of sleep (in a row) per night this week!!!! It feels so good I've been able to enjoy some "me" time and even had a couple drinks after her last feed. Yay, lets hope we're on the downhill slide.  :lol:

Big HUGS Clair. I don't wanna make anyone feel bad but I guess I got a little excited.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 06, 2005, 14:25:28 pm
Well, what am I doing wrong?  Luke goes down around 10:30, as he's wide awake until then, and a dream feed isn't an option b/c a crow bar couldn't get his mouth open while he's asleep!!  He wakes between 2 and 3 (sometimes we can get him to go unitil 4).  I guess he's just a hungry boy.  The paci won't cut it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 07, 2005, 01:04:17 am
Hi Amy, I read in one of your posts that Luke will sleep up to six hours during the day. Do I dare say he may have his days and nights mixed up :?:  :?:  :?:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: loliac on August 07, 2005, 14:33:26 pm
Does anyone's lo not eat very well in the morning for the first feed? My dd is 9 weeks and she sleeps VERY good at night. She has been going from 10pm until 5am. Sometimes later than that! Sorry, don't mean to rub it in. But she only takes about 3 oz. for her first feed and I think that's strange. I would think she would be STARVING. We are weaning her onto formula and I am wondering if she just doesn't like the taste or what. Right now she gets about 2oz. of ebm and then 3 oz. of formula. Any thoughts??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 07, 2005, 16:03:38 pm
Last night Luke went from 8 until 4!!!!!!  We were stunned!  I am thinking that if we had given him a bottle when he stirred at 11, he might have gone even later.  Any suggestions?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 07, 2005, 19:20:47 pm
Amy!!!!  That is fantastic!!!!  Woohoo!!!!!!!!  Way to go, LUKE!!! 

Isn't it so refreshing?  You feel like a whole new woman, dont' you?  Did you do a dream feed?  That might extend his sleep time a bit.  But I think I have figured out that this is all a "baby step" process (no pun intended).  They have to work up to that 8-10-12 hour stretch gradually.  Right now, I am ecstatic with Cait going about 9 hours between feedings and about 6-7 hours sleep.  And I was so tired last night that I finally got her down at 12:20 KNOWING she was going to get up in 25 minutes to eat.....well she actually started making noise at 1:48, but I ignored her  :oops:  :oops: and neither one of us stirred again till 5:45.  Oh...well Ry did come and get into bed with me at 3:15, and I had to call his dad so that dh could tell him to go and get in his own bed. :roll:  So when I finally get one sleeping through, the other one has to be butthead and I still have to wake up!!  ugh....

AND, I think I have figured out what makes Cait sleep!!!!!!  Holy Cow, we were given a blanket sleeper, it looks like just a normal "bag" but zips up from the feet and has arm holes  (and head hole, obviously) and is made out of a fleece material.  OMGoodness, it is saving my life right now.  I put her down for a nap a bit ago and she started crying, I only had her in a onesie.  So I found the sleeper that she had worn to bed last night, threw it on her and have not heard a peep out her since.  I will be screwed when she grows out of it.  Guess I better hit my aunts up to make some copies in progressive sizes!!!!  HEHEHEHEHE, I hope this keeps up.   :wink:  I guess this is a form of swaddling, because she does not like to be bound up tightly.

Clair, how is Red doing?  Kayna, sounds as though Avery is well on her way!  Congrats!!!

Wishing everyone a sleep filled night :!:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 07, 2005, 20:34:35 pm
No, we didn't do a dream feed, because when he is asleep, he will not take a bottle....believe me, I have tried.  I bet I could have given him a little bit when he woke up and fussed at 11, but he went back down.  Just a question, though....when you do give the dream feed, how much do your los usually take?

My husband has been SOOOOOOO great about doing the middle of the night feedings.  He's a night owl anyway, but I am one that has always gone to bed early and slept late.  Those days are long gone, but it's nice to know that I have someone here that doens't mind the late nigh feeding.

I go back to work full-time this week.  Luke went to day care for three half-days last week, and starting Wednesday he'll go full time.  Makes me so sad, but I know that it will be ok.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 07, 2005, 22:29:45 pm
Hey guys, well things are still mixed here, luckily we have had two somewhat better nights, with Red going down at 7pm, DF at 10.30pm and then through till 3am and then 6am one night and 4am and then 6.30am last night. That i can cope with!! Days have become a bit crazy as he is having his 6 week growth spurt which basically equals feeding like CRAZY and not sleeping. Hope fully he'll come out the other side of it and sleep loads to make up for it.

I cut the dose of his feed thickener in half, which has unplugged him!!! (He was constipated!) Obviously the reflux is a bit worse, but with the growth spurt upon us, i cannot tell what is happening as he is feeding loads and fussy because of that too!!

I must say, in the midst of all of this crazyness, i am really enjoying being a mommy of two babes. Yes its hard work but it is already so rewarding. I went to visit my good friend today: she has a dd 5 weeks younger than my dd, and now had a new baby 6 weeks younger than Red! She was born at 8lbs 3oz and i could not believe how tiny she was!! Red is such a hulk!! He is growing so so big - i'll have him weighed on Tuesday and report back to you!!

Kayna - loving that you're a clown - how FAB is that!! I have just taken on a new 'career', to make a bit of spending money. I am a childrens book seller! There is a brand in the UK called Usbourne books that make books and educational games/ puzzles/ equipment for ages 0-16yrs. To join you pay £38 ($67) for a set of books worth £100 to use as your display, and then you host parties, go to playgroups etc and take orders for books from the main catalogue. For every £100 worth of orders i take, i get to keep £24, and if i host the party in my house i also get 10% of the takings to spend on books for me!! My first event is on 25th Aug. I'll let you know how much i earn!!

Hope you are all ok, sleep well gals x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Pumajay on August 07, 2005, 23:38:32 pm
Hi folks

just found this thread and spent a while reading and figure all our babies are similar ages(dd is 7 weeks old on Tuesday) so how come my lo only sleeps for max of 3 hrs at night still ?????  Also she can be awake during the day for 2 - 3 hrs without a nap, she doesn't cry or anything in fact she is perfectly happy sat in her chair watching the world go by but it seems strange to be awake that long.

Generally she comes to bed with us at about 11pm her last feed will be about 10.15 she then wakes up around 2am, she will take a big feed then and be awake for at least an hour after her feed, and will then be awake again before 5am for another feed, i'd really like some advice on how to cut out the 2am feed, any ideas ???
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 08, 2005, 01:12:09 am
Hi - quick question for you all since you have LO's around the same age as mine. How long are you all going between naps, including eat and activity? We are trying around an hour, sometimes it works great and other times he will cry quite alot before calming and falling asleep. I am trying to figure out if I am missing his window and trying to soon or too late or if he just needs to cry himself to calm. He is usually giving me "tired" cues - I think - by about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes after feeding - fussing, starting to "zone" or pull on his ear and arms and legs going wild and really starting to annoy him.
We usually have a pretty short "wind down" so far - we talk for a few minutes, I swaddle him and say a prayer with him and then hold him for anywhere from 3 or 4 minutes to 15 minutes until he begins to nod off. I have been trying to get him into bed awake but so far if I put him in there fully awake he screams, we usually do okay mostly asleep and occassionally when I have had a hard time getting him quiet it is all the way asleep before I lay him down.
I feel like I am maybe missing his window though one side or the other and was wondering what you all were doing and about how long he should be able to go between naps at this age. He was 8 weeks old yesterday.

Thanks
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 08, 2005, 01:28:16 am
Pumajay - I was once in your boat b/c I thought that my son had no problem staying awake for so long.  What I found is that he stayed awake for so long b/c he was overstimulated and we had to engineer his nap times.  He's now 8 weeks old, so adapt as you will, but 45 minutes to an hour and a half tops is all he can stay awake or he isn't able to sleep for more than 30 minutes at a time.  We started taking him in 45 minutes after he woke, swaddling him TIGHTLY, giving him his paci, and it made life much easier for all of us.  Some babies don't yawn all the time, so you need to watch for "the stare".  Just a tip

Jennifer - hope that helps you as well.  My little man is on a 4 hour feed schedule
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 08, 2005, 01:53:33 am
Quote from: amystoker
Pumajay - I was once in your boat b/c I thought that my son had no problem staying awake for so long.  What I found is that he stayed awake for so long b/c he was overstimulated and we had to engineer his nap times.  He's now 8 weeks old, so adapt as you will, but 45 minutes to an hour and a half tops is all he can stay awake or he isn't able to sleep for more than 30 minutes at a time.  We started taking him in 45 minutes after he woke, swaddling him TIGHTLY, giving him his paci, and it made life much easier for all of us. 

I couldn't have said it better myself. I didn't read the BW before our second LO and with our first he cried all of the time. I'm pretty sure he had reflux considering his symptoms but he was also "very" overtired = overstimulated. I thought, "he'll sleep when he's tired" but then he'd only sleep for 20 min. tops and be wide eyed and crying again. Not good. With LO#2 BW has taught me that babies don't realize when they're tired and rely on the parents to put them to sleep before they get to that state. I usually start wind down after 1 hour of awake time (includes feeding, changing, etc.). I'm certainly not an expert but I can say this LO has been way easier than our first  :wink: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 08, 2005, 23:40:22 pm
Ok, what is the deal....ds is VERY fussy when he goes down for his naps.  We have had to do paci duty almost every 30 minutes.  It takes him forever to settle down.!  Something else that's happening is his feeds are off...normally he takes 5 oz (at least 4) at every feeding.  This morning he only took 2.5 and this afternoon the caretaker at his daycare said he only took 3.  We both tried to get him to take more but he would have none of it.  Seems to me that he keeps pooping in the middle of his bottle and by the time his diaper is changed he is no longer interested in the bottle.  He is still going every 4 hours, so I know he isn't starving, but is this normal??

Also, any other moms out there NOT doing cluster feeding/dream feed but have gotten their lo to sleep through the night?  Luke is still waking up in the middle of the night.  Is this normal too?

Very Tired Mama
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 09, 2005, 22:23:34 pm
You are all going to think I am very silly, but I just figured out how to get Luke's picture on here, so if you get an e-mail message that the board has been updated you can all "ooo and ah" over him 

Sorry I am such a dork!    :roll:  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 09, 2005, 22:49:44 pm
Amy -
Luke is so cute! I love the picture.
I think he and Caeden are close to the same age - Caeden was born June 11.
We rarely do a dream feed - he has been going from 7ish to 2-3ish and then the last 2 mornings he has slept till 6:30 after that feed. I can't complain! But I am not sure it will last.
Naps have been our struggle this week, but more on that later cause he just woke up again and I gotta go!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 09, 2005, 23:02:56 pm
That's about where we are too, except for last night he went from 8-12:30 and then ate again at 4. 

It's hard b/c the day care wants him to eat no earlier than 6.  I can't tell you what time he eats from day to day, except that he consistently goes 4 hours...sometimes longer.  I know that the longer he's at daycare the more regimented his schedule will become.  I hate it that he has to be there.  I know that they are taking good care of him.  They are the best in town, believe me, I did my research!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 09, 2005, 23:03:32 pm
Oh, and thanks for saying he's cute :-)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 09, 2005, 23:16:22 pm
We are still trying to stay 3 hours between feedings. Sometimes he only goes 2 1/2 though. We are EBF and since I am home with him too I think sometimes he knows since he is with me he can get the milk whenever he wants!  :roll:
I am trying to get his naps a little more consistent hoping that will help the routine too - He wants to eat as soon as he wakes up and if its only been 2 hours, he doesn't seem to know the difference.
Any advice on getting him to go to sleep on his own? I am beginning to get frustrated cause it seems like I try and try and then end up giving in cause he has gotten overtired and is SCREAMING - I can only get him to consistently go down sound asleep from my arms or almost all the way asleep as long as I have caught the little tiny window of "ready to sleep".
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 09, 2005, 23:18:55 pm
Anybody else's LO "found" their thumb or fingers to suck? Caeden did about a week ago and now he furiously tries to suck his thumb even though he usually has it tucked in his fingers so then he gets frustrated! He likes his paci and usually falls asleep with it, but won't keep it in on his own, so I am thinking maybe the fingers will suffice and allow him to put himself to sleep or back to sleep soon when he get the hang of it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 09, 2005, 23:27:42 pm
We are formula fed over here, so I can't help you on that one, but I will ask you if you're swaddling him.  That is the ONLY way Luke can get to sleep.  His little arms have to be bound to his sides (not on his chest)

Luke found his fingers too.  IT is so cute, but he's not very consistent.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mstormin on August 10, 2005, 17:36:56 pm
Wow!  How are you all getting so much sleep (at least it seems like alot at this point!) at night?
Patrick won't go for longer than 3-3.5 hours at night- altho he's a great napper.  He's getting his naps in during the day, we're trying to cluster & df (altho, neither works that great for us) and nothing has improved his night sleeping!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 11, 2005, 15:19:14 pm
How long are you all going between naps, including eat and activity?

Is an hour about right..... longer or shorter?

Thanks
Title: Between naps
Post by: NatalyaW on August 11, 2005, 22:41:42 pm
Yeah, CaedensMama, about an hour is where we are with Hope. The problem then is that she almost NEVER sleeps for more than 40 minutes, often 30, occasionally an hour, so EASY gets really disrupted. For example, 7am wake up and eat, 7:30 activity 8:00 to 8:45 nap, well now it's 8:45 and not time to eat again until 10:00. What can I do? I can never predict when she'll wake up, as I said her naps are often 30 minutes long, so that precludes going in right before the end of the REM cycle and comforting her.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 11, 2005, 22:53:32 pm
Oh - that sounds like my Caeden too! I have been trying really hard to get him past that 20 - 30 - 40 minute window where he wakes up. When I can he sleeps for another hour at least so its great. But I know what you mean about the EASY routine getting messed up cause he always wants to eat as soon as he wakes up  :)

OH  - I cannot believe it - My little man is 2 months old today!  :D  :D  :D  :D  Where does the time go!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 12, 2005, 06:56:36 am
The two months certainly have flown.  Wednesday Luke was two months old and it was my first day back at work for teacher inservice.  People asked "How's your baby?"  I'd say "Two months old today" and start bawling....I need to get a grip, girls! :roll:
Title: hello
Post by: lidybugmama on August 12, 2005, 13:32:29 pm
Hello all.  I am a first time mom and I am also new to the forum.  Lydia is 4weeks old.  We are adjusting to life pretty well.  She does pretty well on EASY but I found myself becoming a prop in  that she wanted to fall asleep in my arms.  I've been swaddling and pat/shh the past few days and it seems to be working.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 12, 2005, 16:44:41 pm
Guess what - Caeden is still sleeping! His first nap this morning I stayed in the room with him and when he started to wake I just put my hand on his chest and he went back to sleep, I hardly even shushed. He slept for an hour and 20 minutes!
His second nap I stayed in there doing the same thing and once he had been down an hour I left and worked on stuff I needed to do (changed the laundry and check email  :D ) and he is still sleeping.... I guess I should have taken my shower...... bummer - I didn't think he would sleep this long!
It seems if I can get him past that 30 or 45 minute sometimes 60 minute mark - he does great and will go 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
Hopefully this will continue to work and I can get some good naps out of him!
We are also trying to catch that window of "ready to sleep" and I am trying earlier then I have been - I think he has been getting overtired. His 2 naps this morning have been 1 hour and the other 50 minutes after his last nap - but he went down with very minimal crying and in about 15 minutes. He is still going down in my arms and then I move him to the cradle, but it was getting to hard to keep trying to get him to sleep in the cradle, and have him overtired and have him only taking 20 or 30 minute naps - we needed to take small steps and so if I can get some good naps and go down easily then I will start trying again to get him into the cradle earlier.
Okay -sorry for rambling - how is everyone else doing? Got any fun weekend plans? None here - just working on the cars so they will run better - and my car needs brakes and hopefully DH will get those done this weekend!

Oh and welcome to lidybugmama - so glad things are going well!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 14, 2005, 21:14:20 pm
Did everyone go out of town this weekend?  I miss hearing what everyone is doing!   :P
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 15, 2005, 18:33:29 pm
OK, girls, we've just made it through our first illness over here.  Luke woke up this morning with projectile vomit....I can now fully appreciate the term.  Lucky for us, it seems to be short-lived.  We went to the doctor this morning, came home and vomited some more, but that has been it.  Lucky for me....DH has jury duty today and tonight is "meet the teacher" night.  I called my principal this morning, and luckily she was very understanding.  DH got released from jury duty and will be home in time for me to get to school, throw some trash in a closet and meet the parents.  STRESS!! :roll:  :x  :roll:  :x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 16, 2005, 03:47:31 am
Hi Amy!!  Sorry, I have been popping in long enough to read posts but not post indepth.  Long weekend, very tired.  :cry:

Sorry to hear about Luke.  Was it a tummy virus?  What did the dr say?  Can't say that I have experienced the "pv" before.  But if it makes you feel any better, the first time that Ryan EVER threw up (not spit up) was the night of my 31st bday.  Dh took me to a nice dinner and we were going to go shopping afterwards....yeah...bread and mac and cheese everywhere!!!  Nice......

Cait is getting her 2 month shots tomorrow, so I will post with new stats.  She has been doing real good these last couple of days.  Still haven't gotten past the 5 hours at night, and am anxiously looking for 7 straight hours, but this too shall come.  She has only been taking 3 to 4 ounces during the day and gradually eats more in the late evening and last feed.  Anyone else experiencing this?  Guess I will ask the pedi tomorrow.  She has thunder thighs, so I am not too concerned about her not getting enough to eat.  I am going to try and post a new picture of her over in the gallery, so keep an eye out.  :wink:


So how did the "meet the teacher" go?  What grade do you teach?  My hat is off to you, I couldnt' do that. My MIL just retired from teaching from CyFair ISD in Houston.  She said she had stayed one year too long.


bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: zofia on August 16, 2005, 04:35:44 am
hi loved to chat  well i'm from sydney australia meet my husband in an online chatroom have been married for 7 months was told i wouldn't be able to have no more babies after my first.  So had givn up on the baby issue when 3 weeks before i walked down isle i found out i was preggy. i have 2 daughters 1st one is 8yrs old and tyffaine is 7 weeks old i had a rough time through all of it first was dibettes insulin c section then blood transfusions.  But it was all worth it in the end cause we got a beautiful baby girl and big sissy now has i little sissy to play with.  I also have  1 dog and me and hubby now run our own irc network were i chat to all my friends i have know for ages which come from all parts of the world and all walks of life.  Well that about sums it up from me lol. atm i'm not getting much sleep and have just started the e.a.s.y so i'm hoping my nights and days get better.  only time i find i'm really tired is the 4am feed as bubs just won't go back till sleep till 6:30am and then its my turn to get up and do lunches and stuff.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 16, 2005, 13:18:40 pm
Hi everyone. dd had her 2 month check-up yesterday and is growing like a weed. She already weighs 13lbs 1oz :shock: little chunker!!

We found out last week that she does have a Dairy Intolerance (blood in her poops) and I have since cut out dairy and her diapers have cleared up tremendously.

Our nights are still wonderful. She's slept through the night for over two weeks now, yay  :lol: . She goes down around 8pm (never quite sure about this though  :roll: ) df at 10ish, and sleeps until around 7am, quick feed and straight back down for 3 hour nap. It is absolute bliss. Unfortunately our days are NEVER consistant. She still fights her naps if I don't hit her window. It's not too bad if were at home, but any kind of change in her routine and she cannot get enough sleep which sends everything in a tailspin. This wouldn't be so terrible but we're so busy in the summers that we have plans nearly everyday. Mostly its just stuff that has to be done (church, dr. apt, groceries). I'm so tired of it  :roll: .

So our EASY isn't so easy during the days but luckily I get enough sleep at night to keep me going :wink: .

She's giving lots of big smiles and even starting to giggle a little. Its so much fun to interact with her  :lol: .

How's is going for you Clair?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 16, 2005, 14:34:35 pm
Caeden had his 2 mo checkup yesterday..... he is 11 pounds, 12 ounces and 23 1/2" long. Dr said all looks great! He got his first set of vaccines too - poor guy - screamed when she gave him the shots - he got 4 of them. After she was done I picked him up and held him and he quieted down and then I nursed him and he took a nap, so he was okay. He hasn't had a fever, for which I am glad - and he seems to be doing good so far today.

Our nights are also going well - he goes down between 7-8 and then is up at 2 -3 for a feed and then down till 6-6:30ish.
Our days are still a challenge - he did great yesterday with feeds 3 hours apart, but most days he is closer to 2 2-1/2 hours pretty consistently. At this point, I try and get him to go longer when I can, but I am not forcing it. I figure if he is hungry, I am not gaining anything by making him wait and listening to him fuss! And if I can get him past that dreaded 45 minute window on his naps he sleeps for an hour and 15 to 30 minutes. I have been waiting in his room till he gets past that and it seems to be helping.

Gotta go - he is starting to fuss!
Have a great day - I love hearing how everyone is doing and what you are all up to!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 16, 2005, 18:22:06 pm
Cait had her 2 month checkup this morning.  Speaking of chunkers!!!  She is 13 pounds even, but is 23 1/4 inches long.  She likes to spread her weight out!   :lol: 

Sounds as though most of us are starting to get some good quality sleep at night, now we just need to work on the days.   :)

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 16, 2005, 19:41:24 pm
Hello there lovely ladies! Wow it has been ages since i have had the chance to post about us. I have been browsing and posting here and there but i just have no time to myself at all at the moment.

Red was weighed a week ago at 6 weeks of age, and he weighed 11lbs 2ozs, he is super-long too! His baby hair is falling out and leaving very short blond hair, such i shame - i thought it would be so cool if he had kept his 'Red' hair! With regard to his reflux, he is now on the full dose of the food thickener. We were having real issues with constipation, but luckily over the last few days it seems to have resolved.

Nightime wise he is going down at 7pm, df at 10/ 10.30pm and goes through till about 4/5am ish. Last night it was 4.30am, the night before that he woke at 3am but i gave him his dummy and he went back to sleep until 5.15am!! I know he can do it, but he is not regularly going that long. To be fair i think we are still getting over his growth spurt, that really knocked us back, he was feeding every 2 hours and not sleeping AT ALL!! Nightmare.

Daytimes are hit and miss, again depending on when and where we have to be. Our really issue is not getting to sleep, but the dreaded 45 minute naps. He goes down great, on his own, in his crib with the paci (oh yes we have an addict - but i don't care!! :lol:  :lol: ) but without fail he wakes after 45 minutes. Until last week i could get him back down with no problem, just re-insert the paci and shush a bit, but this week - Holy moly - he is just screaming and screaming when i try to get him back to sleep, although he is quite obviously tired out.

Which brings me onto the newest nightmare - the screaming!! Up until now he has been fairly happy when awake, smiling and gurgling etc, but today and yesterday, i do not think he has stopped crying! Ok to be fair he has, but it does seem to be constant. It is no better when i cuddle him and i just feel so helpless, if i can't make him stop then what do i do!!! I'm sure it is just because he is tired but geez kid gimme a break!!

It is great to catch up with you all, glad you are all doing ok.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 16, 2005, 22:23:58 pm
YEA!  I missed you guys!  Good to hear that everyone is doing well.
Our nights are getting better.  He has his last bottle around 8, has another one around 2, and then goes until 6.  He's pretty consistent about eating every 4 hours.  That 6 hour stretch from 8-2 is the longest one...too bad we can't move it, but I hate to wake him up to feed him....actually, I CAN'T wake him up to feed....even a dream feed doesn't work on this kiddo.  When he's out he's out.

School starts tomorrow and I am NOT ready since I lost a day staying home with Luke yesterday.  He's much better today.  The doc said that he would either get over it quickly or it would last for up to two weeks.  Thank God for miracles.

Meet the teacher night went well, thanks for asking :-)  Please say some prayers for me, as tomorrow is the first day of school.  I am not doing well with leaving him.  I would love more than anything to be able to take him to work with me.  I am hoping that isn't so far off...there is a possibility that I will be interviewing for such a position in the very near future. 

By the way, I know exactly where Cy-Fair ISD is.  I grew up in Katy and taught there for two years :-)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 21, 2005, 20:33:27 pm
Hi all!!!

Just had a question....Cait has gotten a LOT easier to deal with when it comes to bedtime and naps in general.  However, I put her down these last couple of nights between 9:30 and 10pm and like clockwork, the child is up at 5 am!!!  You can set your watch by her.  In fact, I am so confident in her getting up, I may not set my alarm tonight to get up for work in the morning.  Do not get me wrong, I am not griping, exactly, because I am getting some good quality sleep, I am just wondering if anyone else's lo is doing this?  She generally takes about 3oz and then goes back to sleep and sleeps to about 8:30/9:30 depending on how loud her bull moose of a brother is.  :roll:

Hope everyone is doing great!

By the way, welcome zofia.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 21, 2005, 20:47:23 pm
I'm at a loss.  Just when we thought we had it all figured out over here, things got all thrown out of wack.  I am thinking it has something to do with the projectile vomiting episode on Monday.  He didn't sleep very much at daycare and his eating was thrown off by his upset tummy...we're STILL not on schedule.  He used to eat 4-6 oz every 4 hours consistently....now he might have 1-2 oz and then go for 4 or 5 (at night sometimes 7!!) hours and then suck down a 6 oz bottle like he's being starved to death.  What gives?  We go to the pedi on Friday for his well check.  He doesn't have a runny nose, but it's definitely a snotty one, and the snot sucker has been in use over here!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 21, 2005, 21:07:57 pm
Well that sounds consistent with Cait....here lately she just takes 3 oz and then literally pushes the bottle away and WILL NOT eat anymore.  So I burp her and put her in her bouncy seat, and in 30 minutes she is screaming the roof down because she is hungry.  WELL!!!  If you would eat when I offered it the first time, you wouldn't be screaming Mimi now!!  Geez.  We go from sleep issues to food issues.  And I know this is ridiculous to say about a 10 week old....but with her being a girl, I am already worried about causing "issues" with food and what her take will be with it when she is a teenager.  I know, I'm crazy.  I find/make up things to worry about.  As if having two children and a cop husband isn't enough. :roll:  :oops:

I hope Luke's wellcheck goes well.  Let us know what the pedi says.  How is school going?

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 21, 2005, 23:16:45 pm
Just had to share.........Avery rolled over today  :lol: . It was from tummy to back, it was so cool. ds never really did roll over until he was already sitting up so I'm all excited.

For the bad news......I can't get the little booger to sleep at night for the life of me. She cries and cries for hours sometimes. Luckily when she does finally zonk ( out of exhausion  :cry: ) she sleeps a good 10-12 hours. But in the mean time YIKES!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 21, 2005, 23:50:22 pm
woohoo Kayna and Avery!!!  That is great news to share.  The only way I have managed to achieve sleep with Cait is putting her in "sleep sacks" and getting her warm.  I call them her "sleepy jammies" and she knows when I start zipping her up that "night night"time is upon her.  I do it for all of her naps too.  It has really made a difference in the amount of sleep in this house, let me tell you!!!  I actually had to scour walmart for some bigger ones, and the only ones I could find were for boys.  So, I bought them.  I figure, we know she is a girl, so it doesnt' really matter.  She won't be going out into public in them.  Of course, I don't know how I will explain it to her if she is doing something really cute while she is IN one and I take a pic of her.  :roll:

I guess Cait's on achievements for the moment are she is "talking" (so damn cute!!) and she gives away smiles now, you don't have to coax them out of her.  You walk in the room and she will look at you and smile the biggest cutest toothless grin.  She just tickles my tummy.  :D  :P  :o  :lol:  :)  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 22, 2005, 00:25:05 am
Yea Avery!  I think Luke is trying to roll over from back to tummy.  He's almost got his neck all the way around.  I imagine it will happen soon.

Glad I am not the only one with major eating issues.....as for the sleep issues, we don't get through the night yet.  he still wakes up for a bottle around 2, but then goes RIGHT back to sleep.

Just when I think I have it all figured out, he changes it up on me :-)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 22, 2005, 00:26:49 am
Oh, and school is going well, thank you :-)  I have moved down from junior high to elementary (only one grade lower) and the difference is AMAZING.  I am just afraid that they think I am Cruella DeVille....I am so used to junior high, it's hard to come down.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 22, 2005, 01:36:26 am
bj, do your sleep sacks have arms or are they like a grow bag? We are really struggling and trying different things. I've always just swaddled but one time stuck her in her grow bag out of frustration. She did stop crying but she sat in her crib staring for over 1/2 hour and never did fall asleep, what's up with that? Oh well, thank you for suggestions. I'll take anything. I finally got her to take a Nuk this weekend. Woohoo, major achievement in my opinion.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 22, 2005, 08:41:39 am
Hey ladies...

Yay Avery, i can't belive we are starting to hit these huge milestones, where are our tiny babies?? Kayna, what is your pre-sleep wind down routine? Maybe that needs looking at to help Avery relax??

Bj and Amy - Red is taking less too, he has gone from 10-12 mins per feed to like 4-6mins!! Now either he has become even more super efficient or he is taking less!

Red has also become a lot more smiley and chatty recently, so cute!

He has consistently been going down at 7pm, df at 10-10.30pm and waking about 5am ish. Today he woke at 6.30am!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :D  :D  :D  :D  Yay RED!!!!!!

Napping is ok, he goes down no problem but 45 minute naps are the norm and i can only get him back down about 50% of the time. This of course means that he is awake to long before his next feed and so then 45 minute naps again as he is so tired!! bleh!! and of course the child is the biggest paci addict in the world!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 22, 2005, 16:44:42 pm
Here's Avery's pre-bedtime winddown:

Bath and Massage (Usually takes about 15-20 minutes)
Go into dark room, swaddle, and bf
Burp and kisses goodnight
Lay her in crib

The entire process takes anywhere from 30hr to 45min.

I worked all day on Thursday with Noelle (johnandzoesmom) also EASY board Moderator to pound out the cause and figure out a strategy for her crying spells. She was very insightful and we came up with a lot of different approaches. Since then we've had our ups and downs. Now last night she went right to sleep after her winddown, yay! She did wake up at 45 min mark but I just popped her pacifer back in a couple times and she was all good.

A couple things I have been doing different:

-longer winddown in dark bedroom before naps
-completely dark room (unplugged her lava lamp)
-finally convinced her "pacifiers are a GOOD thing"
-do NOT pick her back up (unless needs burping) after in crib (this was just too much stimulation)
-when she is crying we just lay a hand on her chest to calm her
-keep her swaddled tight
-if she wakes from a nap after 45min I pop her in the baby bjorn to finish out her nap

So far we've been making steady progress and like I said earlier she did perfectly last night. I'm sure we're not free and clear yet but we'll just keep plugging away at our plan until it either works itself out or it's time to readjust our plan.

I'll keep you all updated but if you have any more suggestions please feel free to throw them my way.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 23, 2005, 22:29:45 pm
I am so glad I am not the only one with a 45 minute napper!
We have been working on it, but it is hard. He so fights going down, I am thnakful for what I get usually by the time he is down. It is frustraing though - cause often I know he is still tired.
I think we are getting into another growth spurt - when is the next one suppose to be? He'll be 11 weeks on Sat......

We are still doing pretty good on nights, so I am glad for that. I still wish he would consistently nap in the afternoon though so maybe I could get a nap too! But that never happens. Oh well - I can always get caught up on my sleep when he goes to college right!  :D

Where have you all found the sleep sacks? I checked Wal-Mart and couln't find them. Do they have arms - like a swaddle blanket, keeping arms in or are the arms free to fly all over (like Caeden loves to do!)?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 23, 2005, 22:52:13 pm
I saw some sleep sacks at Babies R Us the other day and thought of you guys.  Do any of you do that?  I swear, I think about your problems and concerns as much as I do my own....what a great little family we all are
 :roll:  :lol:  I don't know that the sleep sacks would work for us because Luke's arms have to be pinned down.

We're 11 weeks on Friday and we MUST be hitting a growth spurt.  Chubbo over here had seven (SEVEN!!) ounces at both feedings today at day care.  As for his naps, he usually gets in one good nap in the afternoon and then crashes when we get home for two hours.  He's pretty consistent with his 4 hour EASY.  We go to the pedi on Friday and I am going to ask when he thinks I can take Luke off of Nutramigen.  That stuff is EXPENSIVE but it has worked wonders with his colic.  I'd have taken out a second mortgage on our house for the miracle that formula gave us.  Last time we were there he said that colicky babies usually grow out of it by three months....I sure hope so!  I guess we can always try the regular Enfamil and see how it goes and if he starts screaming, go back to the Nutramigen.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 23, 2005, 23:27:28 pm
I'll have to check at Babies R Us - Caeden hates to have his hands pinned down, but often times I think that is what wakes him up. He gets out of swaddles so fast and I haven't bought any swaddle blankets yet. I am debating if I should go ahead and get some and try that, but I am thinking he may be able to get out them as well..... I don't know!
I am still struggling with getting Caeden to go a full 3 hours between feeds. When he wakes up - especially if he had a decent nap he will not do anything but cry till I feed him. He is so cute it is hard to resist..... he leans down rubbing his face against my shirt - I know what he wants! If he wakes early from a nap I can usually put him in his chair or swing and get another 20 minutes or more out of him before he fusses too much.
I guess I just have a typical male - hungry all the time and loves to eat!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 26, 2005, 21:37:22 pm
Ok, we had an 11 week check up today.  Luke was 12lbs 12 oz and 24 inches long.  Dr. Horne thinks we will be able to ease him off of the Nutramigen.  Enfamil is now making a formula with the proteins half-way broken down (as opposed to Nutramigen's all the way broken down) and it is the same price as regular formula.  Cross your fingers!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 26, 2005, 21:43:54 pm
WOO HOO, Luke!!!

Sounds as though he is growing strong, and good luck on the other formula.  Boy....they have us formula mom's by the toes on the cost of that formula don't they!!  I went to walmart this morning and paid $56.00+ for 2 cans of formula, a 48 pack of diapers and a gallon of milk.

gee whiz.  can't drive anywhere and can barely feed the kid!  :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 26, 2005, 21:47:52 pm
Yeah, well, at least we're in Texas and not in NYC!!!  Then we'd REALLY not be able to afford to go anywhere!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 28, 2005, 21:20:35 pm
Just have to share...Luke FINALLY rolled over!  He was crying in his crib b/c it was time to eat and when I got in there I saw that he had finally rolled over from back to tummy.  DH and I had to have a little "jump up and down and celebrate time".  We are such dorks.  Will I still act this stupid with baby number 2?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 28, 2005, 22:24:57 pm
Hey all! Loving the new avatars gals! Caeden and Luke are soooo cute!! I'll put one of Red up soon! He is getting cuter by the minute, lots of big smiles and 'chatting' all the time!!

Can i get the boy to nap for more than 45 mins tho?? Not a chance in hell! He goes down great (with paci - but who cares!!) but always wakes up and rarely goes back to sleep! Help me!! NIghttimes are going great - bed at 7pm, DF at 10.30pm and then through till 5am ish - yay!! He has become even more fussy when feeding at the moment, but i figure this is just because he is overtired!

Bj and Kayna,, how you doing??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on August 29, 2005, 12:34:02 pm
I am at work  :evil:   I will post tonight!

YAY!!  Luke!!

(come on, Cait!!) :D

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 29, 2005, 13:34:22 pm
Hi everyone  :lol: . We are doing very well here. Avery continues to sleep like a dream at night which makes everything else easier during the days  :wink: . She has learned to fall asleep on her own now for the most part  :D  but still will cry sometimes before drifting off. Luckily it's only for a couple minutes now and it seems to be less and less. :roll: She is still taking her pacifer right before naps and bed which has made a world of difference 8) .

I'm still working on getting her allergies worked out. We knew she was allergic to dairy and so I went off of that and her bloody stools cleared right up. But instead of returning to the "normal" bf baby poop they were very watery and runny :x . I decided last week to take soy out of my diet as well. Things were starting to look really well until I accidently got a dose of butter and the blood came back within 24 hours  :cry:  poor thing. Anyway, there has been major improvements and I plan to stay off diary and soy now until further testing in the future :roll: . It kinda sucks but the baby weight has been dropping rather quickly (6 lbs in 3 weeks, yay) just 4 more to go. Who knew what cheese could do to ones butt and thighs  :roll:  :wink:  :roll:  :wink: .

Avery has also been napping so much better at other people's houses. It's so nice to be "free" again. As long as I can swaddle her, darken the room, and have her pacifer she does alright. Her carseat has been a ton better as well. We must have passed some kind of hidden milestone. How about everyone else? Does it seems like things have been getting easier and easier?

The big smiles and the little giggles continue to come. Although I think the roll over was a fluke. I meant to post back and tell everyone she was laying on the couch when she did it so she was using her feet to push off. She has yet to do it again  :oops: . I heard there was an unwritten rule, you can't put anything in the baby book until they've done it twice. Is that true?

Okay, off for now. Have a good week ladies and keep us updated  :lol: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 29, 2005, 14:40:52 pm
Yeah Luke!
Caeden still hasn't even started really trying...... he just lays there and kicks his legs all over the place. He really doesn't enjoy just laying anywhere - thinks he is going to bed so maybe I ought to try some more back and tummy time on the floor this week and play with him. I know he will roll when he wants. And it sure is nice knowing he won't go anywhere yet!  :D 
He loves his hands though - gnaws on them all the time! Hasn't really gotten the thumb sucking down yet, but does his fingers pretty good.
He has also started "playing" with his toys. We have a little bug that I gave him in the car last week and he just looked at it, touched it and felt all over for at least 10 minutes - so cute! He also loves this green stuffed hippo he has - I think he likes the pink in the ears!
Oh he is getting so fun and responsive to everything. Smiles at me all the time when I smile at him - so cute!
If you would like - I have some pictures and stuff on his website - http://www.babyhomepages.net/caeden.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on August 29, 2005, 18:46:28 pm
What a fab home page Jennifer! Caeden is sooooo cute! I want to do something like that, was it easy to do??

Ok, this nap thing is driving me mad, i really think i should just chill out about it, but i can't. Ruby always took 45 min naps, but i didn't realise it was a 'problem' as she was always so good tempered. If i go in a prempt his waking i just manage to wake him up more, if i wait to see if he will re-settle by himself he just yells. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! He is loving his hands at the moment and i wondered if i shouldleave one out and try to get him to self-soothe, but it just ended up winding him up.

The mornings are driving me nuts too. We are having problems with Ruby waking early and she ends up waking him up sometimes. Others he will just wake anyway, he feed at 5am ish, but will never go back down until the next feed, he wakes at like 6 - 6.30am ish. But of course he isn't hungry so i have to sit with him for 1/2 hour and 'play' until i can put him back for a nap and then of course Ruby is up for the day. So 6am (often earlier) seems to have become my regular wake up time, and it does not suit me one bit.

Good to hear from you all. Glad things are going better on the nap front for you Kayna, sorry about the allergies though. At least you have worked out what it is and can go from here. And way to lose the preg-weight! I am fighting a loosing (or rather gaining) battle!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 29, 2005, 21:05:03 pm
Oh Clair I hear you on the naps! I have tried everything too - going in and trying to catch him before he completely awakes, leaving him be and even sitting in there they entire nap. What works one time doesn't seem to work consistently, very frustrating. Sometimes he will go back to sleep and most of the time not. About half the time I think he is ready to get up but the other half he is still tired. I cannot get his room very dark - just have mini blinds and I wonder if darker would help or not. When he does go back to sleep at 45 minutes he usually sleeps another 45 or hour with no help from me. I have not been waking him from a nap to eat unless it has been over 4 hours. Having him well rested and a good nap is worth more to me then a consistent eating schedule. He was going 2-2 1/2 hours between feeds but today he has been doing really good at close to 3 hours all day. I am beginning to think this is something they will somewhat "grow" thru and it will get better soon. I am pretty sure we had a growth spurt last week - I felt like all he wanted to do was eat! I keep thinking "this week" will be the week that we get naps under control and going good..... of course I have been saying that for weeks now. All I know is alot of things that haven't worked and a couple things that do - though his naps are still a challenge and had to predict and impossible to know how long it will be!
Okay - I will go now - just wanted to let you know you weren't alone and I suppose vent a little on my end too!
  :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 29, 2005, 21:16:29 pm
Ok, so it's true that you can't write it down until it happens twice...we're waiting for Luke to roll over all the way again.  He gets his head, shoulders and chest over, but his butt stays planted.

Speaking of butts....I hate that you only had 10 lbs to lose!  Guess that's what I get for gaining 62lbs...hey, on the bright side, I've lost 40.

Just one question...when do my rings fit again?
Title: Nutramigen anyone?
Post by: Critter on August 30, 2005, 00:06:14 am
Anyone have their baby on Nutramigen?  It's awfully expensive and Luke no longer takes it.  I have one or two unopened cans of the powder.  If you would like to have it, I'll send it to you!!  PM me with your address and I'll put it in the mail.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on August 30, 2005, 00:14:55 am
Hey Amy - no complaining - I gained 68 pounds..... lost about half so far.... haven't weighed myself in awhile. (I like to see lots of progress when I do!) WHEN DO MY JEANS FIT AGAIN?????? I'm afraid they never will! Hang in there it will go away soon - I'm hoping - for both of us! :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on August 30, 2005, 01:25:16 am
It's supposed to be nine months on, nine months off...I think some of us are cheaters!

 :P
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on August 30, 2005, 13:16:45 pm
Quote from: amystoker
Speaking of butts....I hate that you only had 10 lbs to lose!  Guess that's what I get for gaining 62lbs...hey, on the bright side, I've lost 40.

Just one question...when do my rings fit again?

Too funny Amy. I actually gained 44lbs with my first one and it all came off plus some so don't worry. I wasn't able to wear my rings for  six weeks before he was born and can't even remember when they actually started to fit again. This one is actually coming off a lot slower and if I didn't have a restricted diet I'd probably be gaining weight instead. I'm so darn hungry all the time  :roll: .

Anyway, since Avery is allergic to Soy and Dairy we do have her on the Nutramigen formula. She is mostly bf but does get at least one bottle of formula a day for her df. I'll pm you and see if anyone claimed your offer yet :lol: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mum of three on September 01, 2005, 07:49:59 am
:D Hi there, i haven't posted here before but i have on other subjects. I have a baby girl born on june 17th this year and thought i would see how other parents and baby's are going. I am from Australia and interested in chatting to others.
Now i do have a question if you could give me some samples of your baby's days eg their schedules as my little one Hayley has gone off track a bit with her sleeping. How long are they supose to be awake now between feeds? She does have her bottles at set times pretty much thou.
Title: routine
Post by: kellyhushhh on September 01, 2005, 08:17:19 am
Hi mum of three my ds was born 4.6.05 and his daily routine is kind of like this..........

7am feed 7 ounces
8.30am sleep
10am feed 6 ounces
11.30 sleep
1pm feed 6 ounces
2.30 sleep
4pm feed 6 ounces
5.30 catnap until about 6.15pm
6.30pm bath, bottle and bed 6 ounces
10.30pm dream feed 6 ounces.

Then if im lucky he will next feed at 7am. Above is a perfect day but he does go off track when he decides he wont have his naps or isnt hungry then everything gets messed up. I have only recently kept him awake 1.5 hours as he was takin 45 min naps and someone told me to try keeping him up longer and it worked liked magic, up to now anyway! i am also thinking of extending his awke time a little more in a few days and work towards getting him on a four hour schedule as he doesnt seem to be interseted every three hours again this can mess up his day as well so i am definately going to go to 3.5 , 4 hour feeds.

Kelly xx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 04, 2005, 23:09:39 pm
Hello lovely ladies!

How are we all doing then??

Red is growing so much, he has about 48 chins!! We have our post-natal check tomorrow, and he has his first shots :( , i'll have him weighed and let you know the score!! He is such a happy smiling boy! He is sleeping from 10.30pm - 5.30am consistently, he often wakes at 6.30-7am again, just to be awake, but the last 2 days he has gone through till 8.30am when the next feed is due - this is so great, as otherwise i have to give him a nap before he feeds in the am which is a pain in the butt!

Nap wise - hmmm - i have decided to loosen up abit. I was spending just too much time trying to extend his naps, and he just is not ready for it. All of that time i should be spending with my poor attention deprived Ruby who is needing some mama love at the moment. I think the most important thing at this stage is that he knows how to go to sleep by himself. I pop him in his crib, all swaddled up, and with his paci and his is asleep in minutes. I figure as long as he can do that then we can extend naps when he is older. That said, the last two days (incidentally coinciding with him sleeping in!) he has extended one of his naps without resettling. Long may it continue!

The only issue we seem to be having is with feeding. He is just so fussy. On and off and on again, yelling if he looses the nipple, flailing around like a lunatic - you name it! It is become quite waring to be honest! I would have thought it was the reflux coming back but he is so happy inbetween feeds that i am inclined to think otherwise??

whats going on with you all?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Jaqi on September 05, 2005, 18:17:02 pm
Hi there ..

My baby boy was born in the beginning of July ... and we're also just on the 30-45 minute nap problem.

He weighs about 12.3 pounds and had his first shots on Friday :cry: .

How do you put yours to bed? We've got a sleep and nap time ritual, but the moment we start .. ours start crying. The only way for me to get him to sleep on his own is to put him to sleep and then put him in the crib, and I think that's the problem.

Any ideas would be great!!

BTW: We can't really swaddle the little one as he is very mobile and gets real upset with the swaddle. He has started to find his fingers so we try and encourage that for self soothing.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 06, 2005, 01:39:28 am
Hmmm...the only thing I know to tell you is to swaddle your lo TIGHTLY...but I understand wanting him to be able to find his hands.  What if you left one out?

Luke had his first plane trip this weekend and he did GREAT!

I have a question....do all of you have a mobile on your crib?  We have one, but when he was really little, he'd stare at it instead of falling asleep and he'd get made b/c there was this fun thing for him to look at, but he's really tired.  Now I am wondering if I should try putting it back...any thoughts?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on September 06, 2005, 13:53:13 pm
Jaqi - my ds hates to be swaddled, too.  The nurses and my sister insisted when he was born that he truly loved it and just didn't know it, but he sleeps much more happily with both hands free.  We bought him the Halo Sleep Sack, which makes him feel warm and safe but gives his hands the freedom to rest wherehe wants them (in his mouth or next to his head).

Amy - Is the mobile brightly colored or pastel?  In the book Tracy says to be careful what kind of mobile you hang.  Bright primary colors actually stimulate your lo's brain and keep him awake. Soft pastels are the ones that encourage relaxation and sleep.

I double-checked this because my ds LOVES his mobile, but when it stops playing music he cries.  The only types of mobiles that are battery-powered (hence, they play as long as you want them to instead of stopping just as soon as ds is drifting off) are the Baby Einstein red-black-blue-and-white ones.  I had to explain the whole brain-stimulation thing my dh, who thinks I'm nuts.  So we're just going to give up on the prop.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 06, 2005, 21:03:08 pm
Ummmmm hello!  How did I not see this thread???  I've really been missing out!  Christian was born July 4th, so he fits here perfectly. He's nine weeks yesterday.  Here's his typical day...

E - 7:30 bottle
A - 8:00
S - 9:00 (2 hr or more nap, trying to wake him at 2 hrs though)

E - 11:00 bottle
A - 11:30
S - 12:00 (2 hr nap again)

E - 2:00 bf
A - 2:30
S - 3:00 (1.5 hr nap)

E - 5:00 bf
A - 5:30
S - 6:00 (cat nap of usually 45 minutes to an hour because I wake him to cluster feed)

E - 7:00 bf
A - 7:30 (bath, etc.)
E - 8:00 - bottle
S - 8:15 - 8:30

E - anywhere between 3:00 and 6:30AM, then back to bed :)

He is a tummy sleeper and sleeps so much better than Canyon when he was this age.  We had months of 45 minute naps with Canyon.  I think being on his tummy helps him stay asleep.  I bought the matress wrapper for  SIDS, so I feel much better about the tummy sleeping with that.

For activity he loves to watch his brother be a goofball in the crib next to him, watch his mobile or his favorite - watch my face :).  He is really an easy baby - angel all the way.  It's surprising how much difference there is between angel and textbook.  Canyon was textbook and was generally easy, but NOTHING like Christian.  I always thought the two types were closer together.

He's having bottles and breast because I'm going back to work next month and want to get him used to it before his entire world changes on him :(  He's had no problems going back and forth at all, thankfully.

So, that's our situation...anyone else similar?  Anyone else tummy sleepers?

It's fun to read your posts, however there's no way I can get through them all at this point!!!!

Sara
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 06, 2005, 22:15:36 pm
Our ds has turned himself into a stomach sleeper!  Once he figured out how to get from his back to his tummy it was all over :-)

Our mobile is not pastel, but I tried putting it back on his crib last night after my post, and he loves it!  Luckily for us, he falls asleep quickly after we put him down.  So, no complaints over here!

Anyone elses lo all of a sudden started spitting up?  I am guessing he's just being  a baby.  I know it's not the new formula b/c he had started spitting up a lot when he was still on Nutramigen....I guess we just went from no spit-ups to normal??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 06, 2005, 23:35:29 pm
Amy - Caeden has started spitting up more as well. I posted a question about it last week and the general consenus was that he as just getting more active and resulting in more spit up. And as long as weight gain stayed good he should be fine - just have to keep the burp rag with me now  :?

I am feeling a bit discouraged this week about our routine. It seems that it is not getting any better. When I can get him to fed 3 hours apart, he eats really good and that seems to help his days be better. However, it usually ends up that he eats when he wakes and about an hour later I put him down for sleep - but he fights me and I hold him, walk him and finally at close to the 2 hour mark I endup feeding him again. He falls asleep, usually wakes slightly as I put him down and then he is up 45 minutes (like to the minute!) later. I have kinda given up trying to extend his naps or just trying the afternoon one only but it rarely works. He wakes up wide awake and smiling at me and fusses or cries if I try and put him back to sleep. But he still seems tired to me cause he ends up eating (again, not well at this point cause he has usually just snacked an hour earlier) and then he is grumpy and there we go again starting all over. I have tried putting him down 45 minutes after last wake up and tried not even starting til about 2 hours after last wake up - no difference at all. In fact I usually don't see "sleepy signs" such as yawning till at least 2 hours past last wake up. It takes me at least a half hour everytime to get him down and those are the good times. My DH keeps telling me he will go to sleep when he gets sleepy and to quit trying to "force" him to sleep, but what he doesn't understand is that he never does - he has never fallen asleep on his own except for an occassional time in the carseat or swing (and then usually after fussing or crying for awhile). And of course when DH is home it even harder cause after about 5 minutes of me trying to get him down, he'll take him and unwrap him, play with him and get him quiet for about 5 minutes and when Caeden starts fussing again he gives him back to me and I get to start back over again. We have tried letting DH put him down and he just SCREAMS - I have been the only one to get him to go to sleep in forever.

Anyway - sorry this got so long - I am just feeling frustrated cause every day I wake up thinking I can do this and we will have a great day and it just ends up falling apart.

Typically he gets up between 6 and 7 and feed around 7, he goes back down soon after that for a 45 min nap. Eats when he gets up and plays for about an hour total and goes back down for another 45 minutes. Eats when he gets up and then we usually go the park for a walk - he falls asleep in the sling or stroller and sleeps for about 45 minutes, we then do any other errands while we are out and he eats again when we get home - maybe 1ish. This is usually about 3 hours between feeds. I try and put him down shortly after this fed cause it's been about 1 1/2 hrs since last nap and he usually won't go down till at least 2, if not closer to 3 - making for a very tired baby and mama. But - he will only sleep about 45 minutes and back up again and feeds. If I can get him to go back to sleep it is usually this nap, but again it rarely works. If I am lucky he will nap again before bed between 6 and 7 which helps get him to bed better cause he isn't so tired. And I can't complain about his nights, he is sleeping great - up once maybe twice, not bad at all.

Okay - I will go now - If you have any sugggestions or encouragment that would be great, but thanks a million for just listening!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on September 07, 2005, 01:00:14 am
Quote from: CaedensMama
  And of course when DH is home it even harder cause after about 5 minutes of me trying to get him down, he'll take him and unwrap him, play with him and get him quiet for about 5 minutes and when Caeden starts fussing again he gives him back to me and I get to start back over again. We have tried letting DH put him down and he just SCREAMS - I have been the only one to get him to go to sleep in forever.

Why don't husbands get it???
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 07, 2005, 11:37:48 am
Hi all-

Sorry to have kept away for so long, things have just been crazy around here.  Cait is doing great, still gets up at 5ish in the mornings to eat.  Will be real glad when we pass that phase.  Probably about a week before she starts cutting teeth and then our lives get turned up side down again.  :roll:   Luckily, she goes right back down to sleep for at least 3 hours, so I guess all is not lost.  So....have a question.  She has been taking 5-6 oz per feed....but we still feed every 3 hours almost every time.  Anyone else's eating that often?  I feel as though I am overfeeding her.  Any insight would be appreciated.  She will be 13 weeks on Friday.  Yeah, where has the time gone?  We had her 3 mo pics taken last week and she did really well.  Her whole face lights up when one of us comes to her and starts talking to her.  She even "talks" back, which cracks dh and I up!!  Will hopefully be moving into our new house at the end of next month, so it will be interesting to see how packing up an entire house goes with a 3 mo old and a 4 year old.  God save me!!

Clair- Red sounds as though he doing wonderful!  I can't wait to see new pics.  Unless I missed it, how did Red do at the dr's visit?  What are his new stats?

Amy- yeah, maybe the moving around is causing the spit up.  If you lay Cait on her back, she makes "blanket angels" with her arms and legs.  I come back to her to find her blanket all wadded up on the sides of her.

CM- have you tried the PU/PD routine with Caeden?  I do this at Cait's naps and it takes a couple of times, but I can usually get her back down after a few attempts.  Of course, her bull moose of a brother does not respect ANYONE'S need for sleep in the house, so sometimes it is just a lost cause.

Welcome, Jaqi-Cait also goes to sleep in arms, and gets placed in crib.  I know! I know!  That is a big no-no....but it works  :wink:   Her father can do it better than I, but I am all about what works for each family.  So, I post my question to you also, have you tried the PU/PD?  I haven't read Tracy's book, but I catch on to what most of the other mom's have posted about and get the gist of it.  Clair is a great help too!  I learned most of my stuff from her and Alligirl.  Cait also wakes up at the 45 min mark and I go and p/u and soothe, and p/d and back off to sleep she goes.  This only happens (mostly) at naptime, hardly ever at night.

Joey's Mom-we do a sleep sack also.  I call them her "sleepy jammies" and she already knows that when I am getting her zipped up that sleepy time is on the way.  I do this for naps and for night sleeping and it does so much better than the swaddling.  She couldn't stand to be bound up and much prefers the sleep sack.

Okay..I have posted enough for now, to make up for being gone for so long.  Look in the lounge later this week for an exciting post from me regarding the selling of our property  :wink: (cross all fingers, toes, and legs PLEASE!!!!)

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mstormin on September 07, 2005, 20:40:52 pm
Hello too!
My DS Patrick was born on June 30th!

Question for all of you-- how did you know when it was time to but your DC on a 3.5 or 4 hr EASY? Also, what age were they?  Were there signs you looked for?  It seems that alot of you have 4 hr EASYs...

It also seems as tho many of your DC are sleeping thru the night or close to it (yeah!).  My DS is stuck at the 2:30 mark... we df @ 11pm so he shouldn't be hungry but he is!  I thought he was just habitually waking up but when I feed him he talks a full feeding on both sides (I'm EBF).
My question is: should I try to cut this middle of the night feed down and only offer one side so he'll take more during the day?  Give him a bottle of water?  Just keep feeding him?  Treat it as habitual waking?

I'd love your advice!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 07, 2005, 21:38:19 pm
My ds put himself on the 4 hour easy, so we didn't have to do it at all...just came naturally
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 08, 2005, 22:04:28 pm
mstormin - we also wake between 1-2 to feed and always eat good, but i found when i df he still wakes up so i stopped df and he goes from 7ish till then w/o a problem - maybe try that and at least you get a long strech. dh and i are usually in bed betwen 8:30-9:30 as he gets up early si it works well for us not having to get up again at 11! Just a thought! :D

bj - i haven' really tried pu/pd yet cause the couple times i have he screams. if he almost asleep he will go back to sleep in my arms but if he is awake at all he wakes right up..... maybe i will try again cause its been a week or two since i tried!

talk to you all later -
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on September 08, 2005, 22:51:08 pm
Hello! I have been working EASY with my ds Jake since day one. I have been on this site for awhile but just found you guys! Jake is 12 weeks today, born on June 16th. I can't believe that it has been that long already, he seems like such a big boy now. Its funny how much they change overnight!

I have been beginning to transition him to the 4-hour EASY because for the last few days he has not eaten well. It seems he is not hungry enough after three hours and I fight for him to drink his bottle. So, just yesterday I tried to hold him off 3.5 to 4 hours and it seemed to work. He is now drinking his bottle in about a half an hour instead of fighting it for 45 minutes. The only problem I have is that we aren't exactly on EASY we are on EASAEA... you get my drift.

For example, he ate this morning at 7 am and went down for a nap at 8:45. He only slept for an hour and a half so that made wake up time 10:15. Well, on the 4-hour routine he was not due to eat again until 11 am so I tried to hold him off. I felt like I was confusing him because up until now he had been eating when he awoke from a normal nap (1.5 hrs).  So this afternoon he took another 1.5 hour nap and woke up at 1:45. He was not due to eat until 3 pm. My problem with this is that he can only handle two hours of awake time at the most and that would mean that his next nap would start no later than 3:45 pm. That is right after a feed. And then he would be up way before his last bottle that would be at 7 pm. I want to preserve the order of EAS but it seems hard at this point. In the perfect routine in Tracy's book it has two hours of awake time and two hours of nap time for each 4-hour set, but it does not work out that way. Anyway, is anyone else finding this to be the case? I would appreciate any feedback.

By the way, all of the pictures of your babies are adorable, I'll have to figure out how to put one of Jake on here!

Thanks~
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 08, 2005, 22:55:58 pm
Welcome Sara (i wondered if and when you might find us!), mstormin and Joeys mama.

So Red's 10 weeks check up: he weighs in at 12lbs 11oz, had his first shots and did well! There is a concern over something though. His fontanelle (soft spot) is very small for a baby of his age, what that means is that the bones have fused together to soon. It may mean nothing but could mean something :? If we had developmental concerns it would be more pressing but as he is developing right on track i am not worried. Dh and Ruby both have small heads (Ruby's is below the percentile chart for a one year ols and she is almost 2!!) so i figure it is just that. But as Ruby was never checked out at 8 weeks i have nothing to compare it too.

We have had something of a nap break through! I have been keeping him up for longer at a time (like 1.5 hours rather than 45-60 mins) and  he has been sleeping for 1.5-2 hours at a time, with minimal resettling required! Yay Red!!!!!

BJ and everyone else, i have posted photos in the gallery.......

http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/baby-red-10-weeks-old-vt40663.html
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: NicolaL on September 09, 2005, 14:01:08 pm
Can I join in?
Ciaran is just over 12 weeks old and we started bringing in EASY yesterday.  It is difficult to say what kind of baby he is as he has reflux and that impacts on his mood.  He has just woken up!  so this will be a short post.  I am trying him on a 3 hour schedule primarily because he sleeps very little during the day.  Do you wait until he starts to look for food or just feed when he wakes up?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 09, 2005, 22:46:00 pm
Clair - The kids are too cute - I love the new pics!

Welcome NicolaL! - Where in Ireland are you? My DH's parents live in Clara, he was born and raised here but his parents grew up in Ireland and returned there after retiring. And my DH's name is Kieran as well!  :D

On the Caeden notes: he is growing up so quickly! The past few days he has started picking up toys and blankets in his lap and touching them and putting them to his mouth. So cute - and a great entertainment for the car. He has also started babbling and cooing - oh so fun! I wonder what he is trying to tell us. He works so hard to get noises to come out and seems to love his new sounds.

Our internet was down for 2 days and I really missed getting on here, but I must go tend to the boy and get dinner going but wanted to check in and see what was going on! Have a great evening or day wherever you are!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jade's mum on September 10, 2005, 05:42:17 am
Hi there!

I've joined recently and would love to be a part of this forum.... my lo was born 13 july and she's a textbook/touchy baby (I think!) and we're following the 3hr EASY routine.

It's funny how every day is different but the same (ground hog day - he he) but  just amazing to have such a bundle of joy  :D

Hope you're all having a fabulous day  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 10, 2005, 14:15:56 pm
YEA YEA YEA YEA!!  Luke has made it all night for the last two nights!  He takes a bottle at 9:30 (last night was the first time a df worked!!) and sleeps till 6:30.  HALLELUJAH!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 10, 2005, 14:46:25 pm
Way to go Luke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on September 10, 2005, 20:15:09 pm
Caeden's Mom:  I am so excited!  Joey was born just a couple weeks after your LO, so I know I can look forward to the holding capabilities!  Joey's been cooing for awhile, the first time he did it I was trying to give him his reflux medicine, and I said, "Open up Joey, say AHHHHH" and he smiled, laughed, and went "oooooh."  I think it shows signs of great brilliance and creativity that he went ahead with his own noise!

(btw, it really broke my heart that I had to give him ucky medicine after his adorable display)
Title: difficulty feeding
Post by: kellyhushhh on September 11, 2005, 10:22:40 am
Hi everyone,

Just wondering if anyone is suddenly having difficulty with bottle feeding. My ds has been a nightmare the last few days. He normally has 6 or 7 ounces, but has been stopping after about three or four, arching his back and wriggling, flailing his arms etc.  He is fine when i sit him up but totally refuses to drink and i know he is hungry as his routine has gone to pot, he is also waking in the night again, so obvioulsy hungry.

Its either bad wind or could it be this dyspehgia ( think thats how you spell it)!! :roll:  where the baby has problems swallowing.  I have noticed that he will take his dream feed fine as he is relaxed and also his first morning feed.

It is taking over an hour to feed, today i tried putting him in his chair to feed him and he seemed ok, it is as though he hates being held.

I think i will ask GP on thursday as he is getting his injections, so i will mention it then and see what he says.

Anyone else had this problem?? What could it be?

Reflux? although is that pain after thet have fed?

There has got to be something, ds is so tired from all this, not to mention i feel like a zombie!! :cry:

Kellyxxxxxxxxxx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 11, 2005, 14:29:50 pm
We are having the same here Kelly, but with Breastfeeding. So darn fussy, it is driving me mad. From being a mod on the bottlefeeding forum i can tell you that this is so so common around this age, lots of posts about it! :roll: I think we just have to persevere, try to ensure he gets a full feed in one go. Could he be overtired? that is one reason for fussy feeding. Hope you are ok x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Eden's Mum on September 11, 2005, 15:00:49 pm
Hi there. Would love to join in. I haven't had time to read all the posts here yet. Noah is 6 and a half weeks. i would guess he is textbook and pretty good when we get everything right. i is just working out what he needs taht is tricky! Night times are pretty good now and he wakes twice after the sleepy feed at 10.

we are b'feeding pretty well and he doesn't fall asleep on me quite so much now. we are feeding about every 3 hours, sometimes 2 and  half, sometimes 4 if i am really lucky! Sleep is bizare. no rhyme or reason to it at all. and i am wondering about the old reflux or colic thing. very strainy and struggly with little result. We are seeing a cranial osteopath at the moment to try and help.

my emotions are very much dependant on his sleep and howmuch he has. currently feeling abit rubbish because he sleep is all mad again today.

will catch up on my reading here and post again!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 12, 2005, 02:09:19 am
Welcome all you new people. Congrats on your new arrivals.

Avery has been doing pretty good. The milk and soy allergy is still not completely worked out but her disposition is good. She was just blessed today (my new avatar picture  :P ) and she did incredible. Sat like an angel the entire time.

She continues to sleep about 11 hours at night (w/ df at 10pm). Her naps have really worked themselves out and she goes down on her own mostly   :wink:. Saturday she laughed out loud for the first time (guilty of tickeling her toes though   :oops: ). It was so cute and she has a done it a few more times since.

She's growing and growing. Had to order two new Kiddopotomas Swaddle Blankets for her in the larger size. I'm hoping to get her 3 month pictures taken this week  :?  and will plan on posting when I get them.

Daikon has adjusted mostly but has picked up crying over every little thing  :roll: . He sees his little sister get attention when she cries so I think he's trying it out himself  :x . Anyone having this problem as well with older siblings? And if so, what have you done?

Okay, done for now.

BJ, did you get word on selling your land? Fingers crossed for you.


PS: I started loosing my hair  :x  :evil:  :x  :evil:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 12, 2005, 03:38:22 am
Anybody else's kid going through three-month-old-I-wanna-eat-all-the-time syndrome?

I swear the poor guy acts like he's starving!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 12, 2005, 12:26:55 pm
AMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stick a curly cue tail on Cait's butt and call her Missy Piggy!!  I swear, we have fed this child every 2 freakin' hours ALL weekend!!!!  I started to severely stress out last night because she would just start screaming out of nowhere and it was not "our Cait" behaviour.  I was really starting to feel as though we were just feeding her to keep her quiet and that she "thought" she was hungry, but really wasn't.  I guess it is just their 3 mo growth spurt.....but I am so glad someone else is having the same experience, because I was really starting to worry.

Kayna, no.... :evil: no word yet on the land....hoping like heck to hear something today.  PLEASE OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!  In fact, I am having to make a dr appt today because I have stressed myself out SO bad, I have a muscle in my neck that has knotted up and I can barely turn my head from side to side!!  :roll:  :cry:

Welcome to all the newbies, glad you found us.  We have a great bunch of ladies in this thread.  Let's hope this is a great week for everyone!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: kellyhushhh on September 12, 2005, 20:13:58 pm
Hi clair thanks for replying to my post about difficulty with bottle feeding, dont think he is over tired , there is definetly something bothering him. Anyhow i have ordered some Dr browns bottles apparently they are excellent, will let you know how i get on. Thanks again xx :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 12, 2005, 20:46:54 pm
Quote from: kellyhushhh
Hi clair thanks for replying to my post about difficulty with bottle feeding, dont think he is over tired , there is definetly something bothering him. Anyhow i have ordered some Dr browns bottles apparently they are excellent, will let you know how i get on. Thanks again xx :)

Maybe i'll have to get me some new nipples!!!! :wink:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 12, 2005, 20:49:03 pm
Clair, your avatar is so cute with those adorable kids  :lol:  8) .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 12, 2005, 23:09:25 pm
Kayna - I have noticed a bit of hair loss myself...... didn't realize it till I cleaned the bathroom floor and was shocked at how much hair there was  :oops:

On a happier note - I moved into a smaller pair of jeans this week!  :D
It is not where I want to stay but smaller then I was! Every little bit counts!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Eden's Mum on September 13, 2005, 18:12:18 pm
Ugh! Don't talk to me abotu hair loss! What a state! I look like an ageing man. it is going from all over but the worst bits are my temples where it goes back quite a long way. I have really long belond hair, about waist length and it looks as if it has slipped back!! I may have to visit the hairdressers!
Title: Swaddle Struggles
Post by: Sistahduch on September 13, 2005, 18:37:10 pm
Hi.  I'm new to the board and just 1.5 weeks into our EASY routine.  DD is 8.5 weeks old and is a Spirited/Touchy baby.  She HATES being swaddled.  The book suggests that after 7 weeks, we can leave the arms out, but if I do that, then she only sleeps for 45 min tops before her arms wake her up.  On the other hand, she spends a good 15 min fighting the swaddle each time I get ready to put her down for a nap or for the night.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Sistah Duch

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Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 13, 2005, 19:40:30 pm
Sistah Duch - One thing I have started doing with Caeden is laying him on his blanket but not swaddling him till he is almost asleep sometimes completely asleep and then moving his arms to his sides and wrapping the blanket around him. He fights me too if I swaddle him completely awake, but he too wakes easily if he is not swaddled. So far this is working okay for us - maybe try it?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Sistahduch on September 13, 2005, 19:58:12 pm
Quote from: CaedensMama
Sistah Duch - One thing I have started doing with Caeden is laying him on his blanket but not swaddling him till he is almost asleep sometimes completely asleep and then moving his arms to his sides and wrapping the blanket around him. He fights me too if I swaddle him completely awake, but he too wakes easily if he is not swaddled. So far this is working okay for us - maybe try it?

Thanks for the suggestion Jennifer, but there's NO WAY she's going to sleep without me holding her and shush/patting her (at this point).  I will however begin to try her with laying in her bassinet to fall asleep in another week or 2.  We are just starting with EASY and she is so used to being held to fall asleep, I only want to change one thing at a time.

Thanks again.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 14, 2005, 00:00:51 am
I hear you there!  :D  :D  Caeden is the same way. In fact this week we have started going to sleep on our bed with me laying beside him - I am trying to "wean" him off of me holding him to go to sleep and he will have nothing to do with being in his cradle by himself so I thought I would give it a try. So far it is going okay. He is going to sleep - a plus - without me actually holding him and walking or bouncing him! Yes - I am laying beside him and replacing the paci if needed, sometimes he uses others times he doesn't - but it is a step in the right direction, I think!
When I was holding him to sleep - I would occassionally not swaddle him till I laid him down onto the blanket and once he had settled then I would wrap him. He really does sleep better swaddled and it keeps his hands warm too!
Title: braggin' rights
Post by: Critter on September 14, 2005, 00:58:17 am
Luke has slept throught the night four nights in a ROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 14, 2005, 01:13:11 am
Yeah!!!!

Last night I went to bed when Caeden did - DH was gone for the evening and I saw no need to wait up when I could get a couple extra hours of sleep!

Caeden is going from 6-7ish till somewhere between 1-3 and then again 4-6 and up by 7. Somewhat varies with daddys schedule for the morning.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: NicolaL on September 14, 2005, 16:11:38 pm
Hi Caeden's mamma,
You have the cutest little boy!  Say hi to your DH for me too, from Ireland!  I live in Dundalk, about 50 miles north of Dublin and just on the boarder with northern Ireland.  I grew up in Dublin and Galway so I am pretty much from all over Ireland.  My DH Sean is from Tyrone in the north west.

Ciaran has managed to go to sleep in his cot most naps the last two days and I have to confess he has been sleeping pretty much from 8p.m. to 6.30 a.m. for the last two weeks ( waking up a few times to have a suck on his dummy)  I am really bad though as I sometimes let him fall asleep latched on if he is really cranky - only at night though.  I know how incredibly lucky we are, I guess he is exhausted at night as he only has short naps during the day.  I am struggling to go for more than a 21/2 to 3 hour EASY as he sleeps so little!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 14, 2005, 20:24:39 pm
All my DH family are from Ireland too! MIL is from Limerick and lots of IL's are still there, and FIL grew up in Carlingford, Co. Louth. but his family is from Co. Kerry.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 14, 2005, 21:31:30 pm
NicolaL
I was in Dundalk in the summer of 04!!!  I was there doing a musical for the Dundalk International Festival....maybe you saw it...we did "My Way" which was a tribute to Frank Sinatra.  There were only four of us in the cast with three musicians.  What a GREAT GREAT GREAT little town!  We had such a good time!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 15, 2005, 02:57:24 am
Yeah- I loved Ireland when we were there - mostly did central to southwest and up the west coast - went in N.I. for a day and back down to Co. Offaly. We loved the Kerry area and Cong - ever been there? That is the coolest little town!  :D  :D

Anyway - We were gone alot today so Caeden's naps were a bit broken up and mostly in his carseat. Although he is doing better in there!

I am up waiting for DH to get home and we can eat dinner and go to bed... it's 9 pm here and I am hungry!  :?
He should be home shortly though - worked a 13+ hour day - getting paid good though and by the hour  :lol:  so I cannot complain!
Title: Awake duration
Post by: Kaitlynsmum on September 15, 2005, 09:57:09 am
Can anyone tell me with our June babies, how long should they be awake for? DS has always been on EASY (done it before with DD) and each awake period starts with a feed which takes about 30 minutes, by the end of which he's already yawning. I keep him up another 30 minutes until I see numerous yawns in quick repetition then I put him down. He's quick to settle to sleep if I follow these signals. But  shouldn't he be alert for longer than an hour by now?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 15, 2005, 14:24:34 pm
I was kinda wondering the same thing. dd (born 6/13/05) is still only awake about an hour before she needs to go right back down too.  :?:  :?:  :?:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on September 15, 2005, 15:08:44 pm
My ds (angel/textbook baby) was born on 6-16 and just recently he has been able to stay up about 1.5-2 hrs. Two hours is pushing it. He begins to yawn much earlier but I was finding that if I put him down too soon, he did not nap very long. So, when he first shows me he's tired, we stop doing our activity and go into his room for quiet time. We listen to soft music and read some books. He gets squirmy on my lap so I put him on a blanket and then lay next to him with the books. Or I put him in his swing and put his laundry away and talk or sing quietly. Just something to push the time a little. If he is extremely fussy then I get him to bed, but I try to atleast have him up 1.5 hours.

 He is now eating every 4 hours so I am striving for two hours of awake time and two hours of a nap. It doesn't always work! Sometimes for the last half an hour of awake time we are just walking around looking at things. I find I have to pretty much keep his attention or he will get fussy. We always end awake time with quiet play in his room.

 All I know is if he goes down too early then he won't sleep long. And even though I have to re-settle him sometimes half way through, he has been taking good naps. Which leaves me time to get stuff done  :)

I hope this helps! I can't speak for spirited/touchy babies but I have read that they can be overstimulated pretty quickly so maybe they can not stay up as long...?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 15, 2005, 19:33:17 pm
Caeden is usually ready after an hour, but he has only been sleeping about45 minutes - if he takes a good nap - 1- 1 1/2 hrs he can go longer, maybe an hour and a half - we have done two hours but he gets grumpy. I too have been trying to push his awake time and get longer naps..... we'll see how it goes! I think he is leaning towards spirited.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 17, 2005, 12:44:48 pm
Baby Red has slept through for the last THREE nights!!! Yay Red!! :D  :D  :D

We too are working on extending awake time to extend naps. He goes down real well, but always 45 minute naps. I can extend them about 30% of the time, so we'll get there. Of course the one he hardely ever extends is the lunchtime one when Ruby is napping too!! C'est la vie!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on September 17, 2005, 17:38:33 pm
I don't think Joey will EVER sleep through. :(  In fact, I think he's been up MORE at night lately.

It could be because he totally resists cluster/dreamfeeding.  We tried diligently for awhile, but it only made him want to cluster feed all night and through the next day.  I'm sure I'm making some major feeding mistake, but I didn't really mind because his nights weren't SO bad.  Now that things are getting worse, however...

It always seems to work out, though!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 17, 2005, 17:41:42 pm
Joey's Mom-
Luke resisted cluster and dream feeds too until just recently.  He would sleep from 7-2 and wake up for a bottle and go till 6am.  I knew that if I could just get him to eat at 10 or 10:30 that he'd make it till morning.  Finally, the day before he turned three months old, I went in there, picked him up, changed his diaper so that he'd wake up just enough to take a bottle and fed him.  He took a full bottle, and slept the whole time.  Then I put him down and he was out until 6.  We've been doing it ever since and it works!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 17, 2005, 20:21:05 pm
okay well I am going to go and sit in the corner and cry by myself then.....Cait will NOT sleep through the night.  We used to go from 10-5 and now we are up at 2 and 6.  I dont' know what to do. 

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 17, 2005, 22:11:55 pm
Bj - say to yourself - three month growth spurt. I bet thats what it is, or else it has thrown her off-track and then left her with the bad habit when it left. Is she still feeding more and frequently? How many oz is she taking and how often? Have you increased this recently? Is she swaddled, in a grobag or equivalent, is it too hot or cold, does she wake at the same time exactly each night or is it random? If it is random, she maybe hungrty so you might try putting her on 2.5 hourly feeds during the day, or adding a cluster feed etc. If it is the same time everyday, it may be a habitual waking and you may need to break this habit.

Hugs to you my love x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 18, 2005, 02:43:21 am
Caeden went to sleep tonight WITHOUT CRYING AT ALL!!!!!!!! Yeah - I hope it lasts and wasn't just a fluke. His cry time has been getting shorter all week, this morning it was just a few whimpers for about 2 minutes. So - hopefully we are getting better at this nap thing!
BTW - I have been doing 1 and 1/2 hours between naps yesterday and today and he is doing really good. I think he is getting tired enough but not overtired. He is taking 20 minutes or slightly less to fall asleep (at least for me to leave the room)

This next week I am going to try slowly leaving the room before he is completly asleep and see how that goes.

Now if we can just conquer short naps......... :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 18, 2005, 02:45:15 am
Oh and BJ - don't feel bad, Caeden is still waking at 1-2ish and again between 4-5 and up by 7. We don't dream feed at this time though - I just can't get up so soon after going to bed - I would rather get up at 2  :wink:
And I think Cait and Caeden are the same age.......

I may try Amy's suggestion of retrying the dreamfeed and seeing if it works now that he is older, it's been a couple weeks.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Adamsmum on September 18, 2005, 04:10:40 am
Hello everyone! I'm new to this thread and seem to be battling the same things with my ds that all of you are.  I'm a first time mom so of course I'm not sure what to do and end up experimenting too much I think.

Adam is not sleeping through the night and like bj, he used to be a better (longer amount) sleeper but for the past 2-3 weeks has been waking several times a night.  :(  He didn't take to dream feeding as it seemed to only make the night wakings worse. 

We usually swaddle but tonight I'm trying him in a sleeper.  He fell sleep okay with a little pat/shush but I'm expecting a long night. 

Any thoughts?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: NicolaL on September 18, 2005, 09:08:37 am
Ciaran seems to be going through the same thing - he was a great sleeper - going from 8pm to 6.30 the following morning with usually only one wake during the night that was quickly settled with a soother, but last night he was awake for an hour at 2 again at 3 and 5.  My DH is very helpful saying things like "I don't know why you don't just feed him" but the truth is he is not hungry, he is just playing and grouching when he starts to get tired again.  I never swaddled him and am afraid it is a bit too late to start, but will definitely try a gro bag as he is starting to kick off his covers.

I have the same problem with short naps and was wondering if your little ones wake after a very short nap, bringing your EASY routine to for example a 21/2 hour cycle, do you feed again once they wake or do you wait?  i find if I wait until we get to three hours, he is sleepy as soon as he finishes feeding and he is the kind of baby who becomes inconsolable when he is over tired.  He also only takes 10 minutes to feed (breast feed) is that strange?  He has reflux but has never refused a feed and is thriving, so I am not sure?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Eden's Mum on September 18, 2005, 14:14:02 pm
We just had two nights where noah went from the 10ish sleepy feed until 4am. fab! he has wanted 2 hourly feeds ever since from 6am until 6.30pm but hey ho you can't have it all i suppose. day time sleep is still unpredictable. he can and will do two and a half hours and can even wake half way througha nd put himslef back down without me needing to go in, but today refused point blank! I went in and he was clearly tired still, i eventually tried feeding him and then putting him straight ack down but no luck. he then stayed up for an hour grizzling nd being foul before i tried again and he sremed for a bit but did 45 minutes. I would love to know what makes the difference between them doing the nap and not doing the nap. it is an eternal mystery to me.  I would also love to know what signifies the beginning of the day to them because he hasn't woken up at the same time twice. sometime he sleeps until 10am othertimes he will be up at 6 and impossible to get back down again. and this is even if he has the identical night time feeds and wakings?!?!?! :roll:

Still it is settling down gradually and would be perfectly fine if we could get him happy when awake!! He is very grizzley at the moment whether he has attention or not. :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 19, 2005, 14:41:46 pm
Hello....my name is Brandy.....and (gasp, shock, horror) I fed my 14 week old cereal!!!!!   :shock:

And WOOHOO she slept from 9:45 pm to 7:30 am, nonstop.  Do I feel guilty about this???? Heck no!!!!   I figure, I am her mother and if I felt as though it would be detrimental to her well being, I wouldnt' have done it, but she was evidently starving through the night, and last night she didnt'.
Hopefully none of you are cringing when You read this, but to each his own.
bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 19, 2005, 17:47:39 pm
B.J. - you kill me :)  Glad  you got some rest, and yes, to each his own!

Well, we had a success here this morning...Christian put himself to sleep ALL BY HIMSELF for his nap just now!  We did wind down and then I put him in his crib, patted for about 30 seconds and left.  He moaned himself into dreamland...YAY!!!!!!!!!! 

Just wanted to share the good news.

Sara
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 19, 2005, 18:03:48 pm
We did it finally.......

Caeden rolled over this morning - back to front - all by himself!!!!

And he has been settling for his naps so good the last few days, very little crying, maybe a minute or so and then quiet till he falls asleep. I have been staying with him till he was asleep, just there or my hand on his chest, but he just went down again, and the phone rang so I left him, it was DH so we talked for a while, I replaced the paci once while we talked but didn't stay in the room and he is now out ALL BY HIMSELF!

Oh yeah - I think this will be a good week!  :D  :D  :D  At least I am feeling encouraged!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 19, 2005, 21:31:56 pm
BJ you are tooooooooooooooo funny

The full moon screwed us all up last night.  Luke was up every hour crying.....I am ready to snooze!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 19, 2005, 21:40:23 pm
Oh was that our problem...... the full moon? Caeden was up alot too....had gas and I thought it was something I had ate! Maybe it was just the moon!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 19, 2005, 22:31:09 pm
Ok, why can't my child go from front to back?  He's got the back to front thing DOWN!  Problem is, he gets so darn mad that he can't go back over to his back and he's stuck on his belly.  Lucky for us, he likes to sleep that way, but it's hard for a fella to fall asleep when he can't get comfy.

I have to tell you about this new picture...He's wanting to put everything in his mouth....including towels...and he was trying so hard to get his towel in his mouth!  Poor little dude can't hold onto something very long...except my finger or my shirt!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 19, 2005, 23:03:18 pm
Amy - That picture is really cute.

Everything Caeden can get goes into his mouth too. This weekend I had a small Starbucks cup in my hand and I thought I had finished it - was just hot chocolate and gave it to Caeden to play with, he took it right away and holding it just like a cup put it to his mouth, right spot and everything on the lid and got the last of my chocolate all over his mouth! He had no idea what to do with it, but loved playing with the cup. If we got some good pictures I will put one up soon.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 22, 2005, 01:06:20 am
OK, all you formula mamas.  How much does your lo eat?  Luke eats every four hours and we make seven ounce bottles and Luke is spitting up so much that I wonder if he's eating too much.  The only problem is, if we take it away when he still wants it, he SCREAMS
 :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 22, 2005, 05:33:05 am
Cait is eating about every 3 hours, sometimes 4 and eats about 5-6 ounces.  With the last bottle, I have been feeding her the formula first and when she seems to be done with the bottle, then I take the left over and mix it with her cereal and feed her as much of that as possible.  It is going really well.  I am, I mean, Cait is sleeping through the night  :wink:  And the kingdom is a much happier place!!!

On a different note, I won't be around for a couple of days.  Dh wants me and the kids to get out of town, so off we go. He has to work all weekend. Hopefully, all will be well when we return home.  Not really concerned about flooding from Hurricane Rita, but of the wind damage.  We have several large trees around our house.

Oh, and Cait is a lazybutt!!!  Hasnt' even considered the possibilty that her body can actually MOVE.  Picture if you will......a bump on a log in a pink onesie....Now you know what Cait looks like!!   :lol:   Everyone have a good weekend and hopefully I will be back on Sunday.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 22, 2005, 14:24:44 pm
Christian eats a 4-5 oz bottle every 3 to 4 hours during the day with a cluster feeding of 4 oz. every 2 hrs starting at 3:00 and ending at 7:00 for bed time.

He's only 10 weeks though...don't know how old your lo is :)

And...he's slept throught he night the last 2 nights for 12 hours...YAY~~~~~~
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 23, 2005, 01:30:26 am
When do you get to stop the dream feed?  When do they sleep till 7 instead of 6?  HUH HUH HUH????  TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME!

Sorry....got away from myself there....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on September 23, 2005, 01:44:59 am
AMy- my little one is 14 weeks and is offered 8 oz. at every feed and feeds every four hours. He also spits up a lot, but I figure if he isn't hungry he won't eat it. He does not always finish it but he eats about 25-32 ounces a day.

I think we can stop the df around 7-8 months when solids are well established. How much does your little one take at the df? My DS only takes about 1-2 oz. which is frustrating to me because I go to bed early and have to set my alarm for it! Sometimes it is hard to get him to take anything but of course I am afraid to give it up :)

I don't know when they sleep until 7 a.m. that would sure be nice. Mine stirs between 5:30- and 6 a.m. and then becomes fully awake. I am thinking about trying the wake to sleep thing at 4:30 a.m. so I can change his usual wake time. We'll see!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on September 23, 2005, 17:42:47 pm
Hi, everyone! 

Joey started eating fruit this week.  Now, I know that it's all kinds of forbidden to give them "real food" until 6 months, but Joey's been on cereal for 4 weeks and he's doing well.  We had to start it because of the reflux, and last weekend the dr. said to try a little baby food- apples or other mild fruits.

Now, I have to tell you, they recommended this for nutritional value and to keep the food down.  THEN the ped. said "Babies this age don't have taste buds yet, so it won't really matter what kind." I say "BAH!" to her!!!  Joey had his first taste of pears and he was so excited he started laughing and waving his arms and diving voraciously at the spoon.  That's one for the baby book!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 27, 2005, 01:40:30 am
Hi everyone, just had to show a picture of Avery. It's her first ponytail and this picture cracks me up. I had some with her smilin' but I just couldn't pass this one up. I'm a girlie girl and think her facial expression proves just how worried she is about that.  :lol:  :P  :lol:  :P
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 27, 2005, 04:09:35 am
she's such a doll!  I LOVE her expression!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on September 27, 2005, 12:44:46 pm
She is so cute Kayna!! :D  :D  I will post an update soon, we are away at the moment!! How is everyone else doing?? What are your nighttimes like now??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 27, 2005, 15:30:23 pm
Kayna, that is a wonderful pic!!!  She has sooo much hair!!!  Cait still has duck fuzz and it is all at the BACK of the top of her head, so she would look pretty bizarre with a bow way back there!!!

Joey's Mom, so glad to hear that I am not the only one who has put their lo on cereal and food.  I was feeling pretty selfish wanting her to sleep through the night, but it has really been for the best for everyone in the house.  I haven't started jar food yet, just sticking to the rice with bananas.  She really likes it, and it is a hit and miss kind of situation on how much she takes at night, but we are all learning.  :)

Amy...oh g/f, you crack me up!!  Cait has her 4 month checkup in two weeks (HOLY COW, ALREADY??????) and that is when her pedi said we would start talking "food" so maybe it won't be too much longer for Luke to sleep through without the d/f. I found that the d/f just didnt' work for "life schedule".  We have such a hectic life that I fear we will never have  a "normal" night life.  Ahhh...the life as a wife of a cop.  :roll:   But like I said earlier, I have started Cait on two tablespoons of rice w/bananas AFTER her bottle, and let me tell you, it has made all the difference in her sleeping.  Now, I am not trying to talk anyone into starting their babes on food, I am just relaying my exp with Cait.  AND, we had what I consider a milestone last night.  She woke up between 5-6 am and I was just going to let her "play" until she got bored and started crying and then get her up and feed her.  Yep, next thing I know, we are all asleep again....she put herself back to sleep!!!!!  Woohoo!!!!  I am very excited.  Now....any suggestions on how to get her to sleep without being in my arms first??????  Bad habit...I know I know.....sue me.

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 27, 2005, 15:59:57 pm
I too have a couple questions about the night times............Avery has always been a good sleeper at night. Well, about 2-3 weeks ago we dropped the df to see what would happen. The first couple nights she did great (making it from 8:30pm until 6:30am but 7:15am mostly).  :)

Then last week she woke up once at 3:15am. At first I tried to comfort her but ended up picking her up. She latched on to my arm like a blood sucker and started going to town. I figured she must be hungry, duh, and fed her. The next night she woke up at 5:30am and did the same thing and now most mornings seem to be like that. Mostly making it past 6am but again this morning at 5:30am. She goes straight back down to sleep so I know it's not her wake up time. (her bio-rythum is not set to be a morning person)

The book says this means she's not getting enough calories during the day but I still feed her every 2 1/2-3 hours. She is ebf but shouldn't she still be moving towards 3 1/2-4 hour schedule by now.  :roll:

Should I pick the df back up or try and fit more calories in during the day? Do you think I'm not producing enough for her? I do give her an additional 4oz after the last feed (2oz breastmilk and 2oz formula)? Thoughts?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 27, 2005, 16:20:08 pm
Boy  do I have some catching up to do!  My mother and father in law were here this weekend along with my husband's brother, his wife and son.  We had a housefull!!!!  I'll get to my issues in a sec, but I thought I would share some of my thoughts on your issues first.

Kayna-OMG, what a precious picture!  My SIL had sort of the same problem you're having.  She went back to the dream feed and when her ds woke up at 3 for a bottle, it just took time to get him to realize that the milk factory wasn't open yet.  Just a thought....

We're keeping the dream feed until he gets established on solids.  I think that is the only thing that has kept him sleeping through the night....that and the fact that we change his diaper at that time, too.

Now, for my issues....ANYONE ELSE TEETHING YET????? :shock:   Luke is trying to get his two bottom teeth in and the poor little dude is just miserable.  He can't breathe through his nose very well b/c it is full of green snot.  Then it's even nicer when he spits up and there are huge (and I mean HUGE) hunks of green snot in his spit-up.  Sorry if any of you are eating right now....  Anyway, I have been home with him for the last two days and all he does is sleep.  Daycare said absolutely do NOT bring him with his green snot, but I'm going to have to take him tomorrow.  The pedi said that it's from his teething and as long as he isn't running a fever, he's good to go.  Let's all just say a little prayer right now that they don't call me at 8:30 tomorrow and tell me to come get my son.

We have our 4-month check up on October 6, and I am going to do nothing short of beg my pedi to give us the go-ahead on the cereal.  I think that will help our spit-up problem.  I have decided that he might have a little bit of reflux b/c he spits up quite a lot.  I thought it might be b/c we switched from Nutramigen to the Gentlease, but he was spitting up the Nutramigen too, and if he's just gonna spit half of it up anyway, I'd rather he spit up the cheaper stuff, you know?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 27, 2005, 21:15:54 pm
Hi All,

Sounds like we're all moving into an age of more sleep!  yay for us :)

Christian is doing great.  This is my last week with him before I return to work as a 3rd grade teacher.  Having September off has been wonderful!  He has been sleeping 12 hours through the night for a week now and it is so great to feel rested in the mornings.  He is napping well and eating well and I have no complaints!  I wish I could stay home with him this year, but alas, the checkbook won't allow it! 

Good to hear everyone's updates!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 27, 2005, 22:58:43 pm
Sara,
I am envious that you took your maternity leave the first 6 weeks of school.  I am a 6th grade teacher and were I not in a new school this year, I probably would have done the same.

I've been home for the last two days and yesterday I enjoyed myself so much that I sat down to see just how far in the hole we'd be if I quit.....I think the re-po man would show up within a few days b/c some bills would have to go unpaid for me to stay home.   :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on September 28, 2005, 00:47:47 am
Wow, fellow June/July moms and fellow teachers.

I am fortunate enough to not return until November, but I'm already nervous and upset.  It's such a strange feeling.  I miss work and I miss the kids, but I can't fathom not being with Joey.  But like you say, the checkbook won't allow me the whole year either.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 28, 2005, 01:22:28 am
Hi all -
We are slowly but surely getting longer naps, usually at least one sometimes 2 that are longer then an hour. And he is feeding more regular too - I think that is helping. Nighttimes are about the same - we aren't doing the DF and he is getting up usually twice, 12-2ish and 3-5ish and then up at 6-7 and often will eat and go back down for another 45 minutes. I can't complain though I would love to drop one of those feeds - we are working on it!

I would like to try and transition him to 4 hours feeds - any ideas on how to do this when he may only nap 45 minutes? Do we skip and E and do 2 S's in a period? We are already usually doing A on each side of the E anyway and he does fine with that. Not sure how he would do not eating though and being put back down. He can go 4 hours okay - has a couple times when we have been out and he has slept 2 hours. Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this?

Amy - Yes- I think Caeden is teething as well. No snot, maybe slightly stuffed but drool everywhere and something, usually fingers, always in his  mouth! I bought him a teether that we put in the fridge and he loves it. My mom said I got my first tooth at 4 1/2 months, don't know if it's heritary or not but it seems that he may be an early teether as well.

BJ - I don't know if this is a good idea or not, but this is what I have ended up doing with Caeden to get him to go to sleep NOT in my arms (and walking or bouncing and shushing, etc :oops: ) - I have been laying him down in our bed and laying right next to him, usually have him swaddle and though he often gets one hand out (I let it stay out till his asleep or almost asleep) and he has his paci, which yes I do end up putting back in several times. But I figure one thing at a time! Anyway, I lay with him till he falls asleep. He will often scream or cry sometimes just whimper for anywhere from 2 minutes to 20 minutes (I think it depends on how tired he is, I am still trying to figure this out..... :? ) Anyway, I let him cry and rub his arm or hold his hand or talk to him or shush, depends on what he is doing. He will stop crying at some point and just lay there and stare at the ceiling or me and drift off to sleep. After his eyes are closed for a couple minutes I usually get up and leave. I will move him about 10-15 minutes later and he rarely even flinches as I move him to the cradle. Often during naps and daytime I leave him there thru the nap - it's easier and he is only rolling one way and has actually never even done that swaddled so I know he won't roll off. And our house is small enough I am in there before he gets moving too much anyway.
Again - not sure if this is a good idea, but so far it is working for me. He is going to sleep better and often longer and will hopefully continue to transition this into his crib. Plus as he is crying I am right there with him so he is not "abandoned" or left alone - and he used to often cry like this even when I was holding him, so I think he is just somehow calming himself this way.

Kayna - Very cute picture! I love the hair. Caeden's is still pretty light and hard to see, not much there anyway!

If anyone would like - I have new pictures on his website: http://www.babyhomepages.net/caeden - I still cannot figure out how to size them to post on here....... :cry:  :?  But there is some cute ones there!
Oh and Clair - it is easy to get a page on there - go to their homepage and just register one, it's free but you can opt for a $2.00 a month charge and get some more stuff. It's fun to help keep in touch with faraway family and even those in town!

Okay - I have gone on long enough..... have a wonderful evening or day wherever you are!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 28, 2005, 23:37:00 pm
Ok, we started cereal today!!!!  The boy has been acting like he's starving to death, so my pediatrician gave us the green light.  I am going to try to attach a picture to show you how cute it was!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 28, 2005, 23:46:13 pm
Too cute!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on September 29, 2005, 01:24:26 am
Oh my goodness!  That is adorable!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 29, 2005, 14:57:20 pm
Oh Amy, that's too funny. I love it when they make all those funny faces when trying new things. Can't wait......... :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 29, 2005, 15:22:26 pm
Amy, that's great!!!  I love the pic!  Have you been able to figure out how 1 spoon full in the mouth turns into 2 spoonfuls OUT of the mouth????  :roll:

We actually had a great night last night, and WITHOUT  cereal!!  We got home after 10pm and there was just no way I was going to do both.  I had been up since 5:30 am, dh had a CAT Scan (he's fine) and I took on 2 other children after work for some friends, I was whooped.  Yep, she slept right through till 7:45 am.  So...the question is....does cereal make her sleep through or was it just coincedence that she started sleeping through at the same time I started cereal.  Or maybe you have an answer for a less complex question....what came first the chicken or the egg?  LOL   :lol:  :wink:

Clair....how is Red?

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 29, 2005, 18:52:53 pm
BJ,
How often do you give Cait cereal?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 29, 2005, 19:15:18 pm
I have only been giving her about 1-2 tablespoons at about 8 pm.  I haven't started her on "breakfast" yet because she just doesn't seem to be very hungry first thing in the morning.  I don't want her to "eat" too much and then refuse her bottle and have her lose her nutrients from her milk until the dr says "YES, this is okay."  KWIM?

So, I have only been giving it to her once a day.  Once she gets a bit more proficient with the whole "eating" thing, then we will venture to more tasty things and more often.  Even though she has started sleeping through the night, I think more cereal ends up on the bib, instead of her tummy.   :lol:  :shock: 

Have you noticed/Or will you make a note to see if Luke starts to take MORE bottle once you start the cereal?  Like the last 3 days, Cait has sucked her bottle DRY, to the point of the liner has caved in on itself.  Anyway, just wondering.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 29, 2005, 19:27:47 pm
Ok, so maybe we'll cut back a little and skip cereal at his 2:00 feed....I thought he was supposed to get it at every feed.  This morning he had a couple of ounces from his bottle, then he had his cereal, then he sucked the bottle dry and I had to make more formula for him.  Wonder why that is?  So wierd!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 29, 2005, 21:43:45 pm
OK, tell me this.  WHY WHY WHY (and you all are not included here!) do experienced moms make a new mom feel like a complete idiot?  I swear if I have one more mom tell me that I am doing it "all wrong" I am going to SCREAM!  Especially when they ALL have different methods of doing stuff?   :evil:

I talked to the pediatrician this afternoon and here's what he told me....

Do cereal at his 10 am feed and his 6 pm feed.  Put it in his bottle or don't, it's up to me, but since he's doing fine with the spoon already, keep doing what I am doing.  Also, he said to give the solids first and then the bottle.  This last statement is what I have gotten the most conflicted opinions about.  I understand that people want to give advice, but SHEESH!  Do they all have to be so darn rude?

Sorry...I feel better.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 29, 2005, 21:50:23 pm
Tell those "know it all's"  this:

Yep, I very well may be doing it all wrong, but Luke loves it, he's  thriving, and doesnt' seem to be unhappy,  so I must be doing something right.  Then stick your tongue out at them.   :lol:  :wink:

And I give a bottle first, then I start the cereal and after a couple of bites , I will give her a "drink" to help wash everything done with.  I mean, I need a drink with my lunch or dinner so why wouldnt' she?

Amy, You are doing a great job.  I didnt' ask my pedi before I started Cait's cereal, but figured, I am her mother and I know what is best for her and that is all that matters.  Plus, dont' tell me how to raise my children if you aren't willing to pony up the money to provide for their expenses! 

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on September 29, 2005, 21:53:10 pm
AMEN SISTER!!!

As for giving the bottle first vs last, we sorta do half and half.  He is furious if he doesn't get something in his tummy NOW when he wakes up, so I gave him enough of the bottle to take the edge off, give the cereal, and then he finishes the bottle.  I like that plan.  That way, everyone's theory gets used, right? :roll:  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on September 30, 2005, 01:58:42 am
That's funny that you guys are getting crap from people about putting your lo's on solids so early because it's the opposite for me. Avery has allergies so I've decided to wait on solids until she's six months (I don't even have the milk thing figured out yet  :roll: )and the other day my MIL was like, "so when were you going to start solids again, 1 year?"  :evil:  All sarcastic!!! I'm thinking, "You can shove it where the sun don't shine! "  :x  Anyway, like you said each to their own. I won't judge other parents as long as they don't judge me. :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on September 30, 2005, 03:05:22 am
The one thing I have to keep reminding myself is that EACH child is different.  Even when they come from the same exact parents that child #1 came from, #2 can/will be a completely different personality and temperment.  Ry slept throught the night at 8 weeks, and Cait at about 15 weeks.  Ry had colic, Cait did not.  Some babies eat at 3 months, some at 6 and some are born with a spoon in their mouth  :wink:

Dont' let the busy bodies get to you.  Every non-parent or well meaning family member has "just the thing" for fixing whatever situation comes up with your little one.  Well....if "just the thing" fixed what ailed the children, wouldnt' a book have been written about it?  I haven't read Tracy's book, but I am guessing that she writes in such a way as to GUIDE parents in helping their lo along their journey of becoming little ppl.

And Amy...You use what ever eating plan makes Luke happy!!!  I am sure he rewards you with the best smiles, no matter how you get the food in.

Oh by the way, I weighed Cait and I on the scale today....OMG, she weighs 16 pounds!!!!  What a chunk of child!!!!!!  :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on September 30, 2005, 22:35:13 pm
Oh - I just have to brag a little - I am so excited......
Caeden started taking longer naps this week - CONSISTENTLY!  :lol:  :lol:
Either the late morning or mid afternoon nap is at least an hour and a half, ususally closer to 2 hours, a couple days it was both, but hey  - I am happy with one! The others were all the 45 minutes. And he is also spaced them an hour and a half apart. He is doing well and going to sleep pretty good (for him anyway) with them at this length, so we will keep it there for a little while!
Okay - that is all for now - he is awake and wanting to eat!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 03, 2005, 13:44:31 pm
So, how was everyone's weekend?  Ours wasnt' too bad.  I had  bad time of it on Friday night, Cait woke up at 2:45 am (saturday morning) and wanted her binky back.  That went on till I finally got up with her around 6:30.  I was afraid I was creating a monster!!  I already dont' want her to be dependent on the binky, but the rest of the weekend was better.  I am thinking maybe she just had a "bad" night.  I actually got her to take a nap without the binky yesterday, so that was a good step.  Of course, she went to sleep on me.....but whatever.

Last night, she was throwing a fit when I got home and it was just a little after 8pm.  I asked dh when she was supposed to eat again and he said 9pm.  Well....I haven't filled dh in on her schedule so he was clueless that she gets her cereal and last bottle between 8-8:30.  So I fixed it all up, got her fed (for the first time, she ate the whole bowl!!!!), and both kids off to bed by 9pm and sat down to watch my show.  I have been doing real good about getting them both to bed at the same time.  Real proud of myself.  And it only took me 16 weeks to do it.   :o   

And this morning, before I left for work, I checked on both the children, and Cait has started her crib cruisin'.  I put her to bed longways, like normal and found her sideways with her head and feet touching the opposite rails.  Now...have I mentioned she doesn't FIT that way?  Poor baby, but I wasnt' about to move her, dh would have had a fit!!   :lol:   So whats up with you guys?  Cait has her 4 mo checkup next Tuesday.  And did I tell ya'll that I weighed her and she weighs 16 lbs????  :shock:   I have such cornfed children!!!!   :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 03, 2005, 19:29:05 pm
We have our four month check up on Thursday.  I am anxious to see how much he wieghs!

We're waking up in the middle of the night again!!!  DH gave a bottle at 3:45 am b/c NOTHING would console him.  I am afraid to give him too much cereal, so I am only going to give it once a day in the evenings.  Sheesh....just when you get it all figured out, they change!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 03, 2005, 20:24:15 pm
I hear ya on that! My ds Jake has been a wonderful baby, going down for naps like an angel, self-soothing himself past the 45 minute wake-up and sleeping great at night. The only thing I've been dealing with are early morning wake-ups but those were getting a little better. Then WHAM! It's all over. Anyone else experiencing this? Jake will be 16 weeks on Thursday and I figured with all the months I spent in the trenches teaching him to sleep independently and all that good stuff, it would be smooth sailing now. Everything seems to be going backwards. And what is so hard and upsetting about it is that I know he is capable of it and knows what to do. I didn't mind all the work I put into the naps and night wakings a few months ago because it has been so worth it. But now I can't seem to get any naps longer than 45 m. and he is so hard to settle anytime it is time to sleep. I can't help but cry, my poor baby has a blubbering, emotional moomy who can't seem to chill out! It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't expect it from him or seen the sleep training work like a charm.

Anyway, sorry I vented for so long, I am just feeling a bit down. I love everybody's advice and it is nice to know that there is someone to listen and knows what I am going through. I found an old post on here last night that had a lot of evidence of crazy behavior from 4-6 months. It said that are babies will develop and change more in the next two months than any other time in their lives. It's like he is getting ready for something big... rolling over, teething (don't see nothing yet!), some wonderful developmental thing, I don't know. I just wish I could find a way to except him for what he is right now and have confidence in the fact that whatever he is going through will pass and he'll get back on track.

As much as I love BW ways and have a wonderful baby because of it, lately I have been feeling like I should have never read the book. If I didn't expect him to take such good naps, eat every four hours, and sleep through the night, maybe I wouldn't be so sad when it didn't happen. As a first time parent I want to enjoy every minute but now I just feel out of control when it is "not working". But I also know I would probably have a million other problems if I wouldn't have adopted Tracy's methods from the start. I am a true believer in her methods but not feeling much like a baby whisperer at the moment.

Thanks for listening. I can't believe it is already time for the 4 mo. check-up... and more shots  :? Poor things!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 03, 2005, 23:44:37 pm
Jennifer,

  I have not read ANY of Tracy's books, and you see how I am doing with Cait. But I have picked up ALOT of methods just "listening" to ppl on here.  Dont' dispair, they all eventually "get it", but these are going to be busy months.  They triple their weight in the first year, learn to recognize ppl, sit up, crawl, walk, some talk...all in just 12 quick months.  It's hard, but so worth it in the end.  Keep leaning on us, we won't let you down.  Here's a {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}  You have to provide your own kleenex, though  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on October 04, 2005, 02:57:43 am
hi everyone..just found this post and glad i did!  my dd was born june 11 and i have my mom saying that i should start cereal to get her to sleep through the night.  She has reflux so i can't give her more than what she is already taking during the day and she gets up at 3 for a feeding...some say for reflux babies that a little cereal helps keep food/acid down...and then others don't. Now i have talked to health nurses and her paed but they say now they say that u should wait til six months to start cereal b/c of diabetes, allergies, and obesity...i mean my mom had me on cereal by 2 months and i turned out just fine - what is everyone else doing?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 04, 2005, 03:19:19 am
I started Cait on Cereal 2 weeks ago.  I have an older child and started him on cereal between 4-5 months old and that was 4 years ago.  He is a fine healthy little boy.  I think there an equal number of ppl that would say that starting food now is great and some that would say absolutely not.  I wasn't too sure about starting Cait at 14 weeks, but I went with my gut, watched her reaction, worked with her and for the past two nights she has eaten the entire bowl, and I think she would lick it too, if I would let her  :roll:  :D   

And yes, she is sleeping through the night and everyone is feeling much more rested. 

The important question is what do YOU think?  do you want to start cereal?  Do you feel as though your lo would benefit from cereal?  Have you considered trying it and seeing if after a few days it makes a difference?  There is no rule that says once you start cereal that you can't change your mind and refrain until the 6 month mark.

 I personally felt as though Cait was starving.  I could hear her tummy growl in the middle night, and that broke my heart.  No wonder she kept waking every 3 hours for milk!!  You know your child best and you know you would never hurt her on purpose.  That is what I told myself, and I haven't regretted it yet.  Of course, I maybe here next Tuesday bawling my eyes out because her pedi yelled at me for starting cereal too soon, but that is a bridge I will cross then.  I am waiting to see the pedi before I start jar food though, I am not totally crazy!!!  LOL

Not much in the way of advice, but just some insight as to what we are doing.  HTH,

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on October 04, 2005, 03:47:15 am
i definately think she would enjoy eating cereal, she just watches me eat and laughs.  i have even tried putting a spoon in her mouth to see if she rejected it (which she didn't) then she just looks at me as if to say 'where is it'..lol...i think i will try her on it for a few days, maybe just after the 6pm feeding and see how it works out...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 04, 2005, 17:13:31 pm
My son was born June 10.  We've been on cereal for one week and he loves it.  He gets about 1/8 cup after his 6 pm bottle.  He sleeps later (we made it till 7 this morning!!!!) and only wakes up once, mainly because he lost his paci and needs someone to put it back in....I know...bad mama, but hey, a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do!

I am with BJ - do what feels right.  It's your baby.  Most pedis do not frown on cereal at this age.  I don't see much of a difference in Luke's reflux, but he sure does love that cereal!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 05, 2005, 03:15:13 am
BJ- Thanks so much for the hugs yesterday! It defiantly helped and I do need to remember that it will pass and it is all worth it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 05, 2005, 03:23:30 am
That's what I am here for!!  Anytime!! 
 :wink:
bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 05, 2005, 03:26:07 am
I just finished doing the dream feed and have decided that we are DEFINITELY having another one just for the sole purpose to see if he/she is just as freakin' cute as this one!

Don't you just love the snuggles!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 05, 2005, 03:29:14 am
Let me tell you what, g/f!  I was ready for #3 just a couple of weeks after Cait was born.  They are very addicting.  Of course, I was petrified to have a girl, but I am SSSSOOOOOO  in love with her.  She definitely is the light of my life.   


And NOTHING beats and "open mouth" kiss!!!  hehehehehe

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 06, 2005, 19:03:42 pm
Hey bottle feeding mama's, I need some expert advice. DD is ebf. Problem is, we have a wedding this weekend that both dh and I are in. Therefore, dd will be staying with a relative. I don't know how many ounces Avery eats at each feed so I don't know how many to tell the babysitter. I was estimating about 4oz per feed (every 3 hours)? Is that about accurate or are your lo's taking more by this age???????

Avery weighs in at 14lbs 14oz so she's not small. I'm just not sure how many ounces she sucks outta me every feed?????????? :roll:  Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 06, 2005, 19:09:06 pm
Cait has been taking 6 ounces consistantly for the past week/2 weeks and every couple of bottles she wants an 8 ounce bottle. Cait is no lightweight either, she will be 17 weeks tomorrow and weighs 16 lbs on a home scale.  Just my two cents worth.

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 06, 2005, 19:13:12 pm
Ditto
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: kellyhushhh on October 06, 2005, 19:35:10 pm
Kayna my ds is taking 36 ounces over 5 bottles so just over 7 ounces in each bottle on 4 hour easy xx :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 06, 2005, 20:50:21 pm
Hmmm, by the looks of things I may be under estimating the amount I'm producing. Thanks ladies. Think I'll have them start with 6 oz and see what happens. 8)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 06, 2005, 21:03:00 pm
Why don't you try pumping now and see how she does, then you'll have an idea of what she will take?


Ok girls.  We had our four month check up today.  Luke was 14lbs 10oz and 26 inches long.  I learned a very valuable lesson.  Just as no two parents do things the same, and no two books will tell you the exact same thing on how to do this whole parenting thing, no two pediatricians are the same either.  All I have heard is how you can start them on solids at 4-6 mo, whenever you think baby is ready.  Start them on rice cereal and then after a while, introduce green veggies first, then wait a week and gradually build to sweeter things.  WELL, right after my nurse got finished telling me to start him on green veggies whenever I wanted, my pedi says "Start with bananas and applesauce...those things tend to be easier to digest.  Then go on to yellow and orange vegetables..."SHEESH!  I guess it's whoever you want to go with, you go with.  Just goes to show you, it's very hard to screw up if there are so many opinions out there!  What you do with your baby is bound to match with someone's opinion!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 06, 2005, 21:14:09 pm
WOW!!!!  Big boy Luke!!  Sounds as though you have yourself a very healthy young man, Amy.  Glad to hear you got a  good report.

And how true about no two (insert whatever here) are alike.  I am very interested to see if this next appt if the nurse/dr asks if she has accomplished any milestones or wants to know anything about her day.  At our 2 month checkup, they didnt' ask anything.  Did you get questioned, Amy?  If they dont' ask anything, I may open my big mouth and ask "dont' you want to know what she is doing?"  Maybe they dont' ask at 8 weeks, because they are still bumps on logs and NOT really doing anything.  I would think they would want to know if they are developing at the normal rate.

So.....here's a question....my infant carrier is only good to 26 inches (and since Luke is there, Cait wont' be far behind)....has anyone transitioned over to the regular convertible carseat yet?  I am not looking forward to that yet, but MAN that carrier is getting heavy!!!  Good Grief!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 06, 2005, 22:01:26 pm
We're staying in that carrier as long as we can!  It's so convenient!  So what if his feet touch the back seat :roll:
Seriously, I am sure we'll have to switch soon, but we're going to have to get one more car seat.  Right now we have two bases, so the seat can go b/t hubby's car and mine.  It is very nice.

He asked if he was rolling over yet and then he said "Are you concerned about anything?"    I mentioned the reflux, he said no worries, that he's just an active boy and he's gonna spit up.  As long as he is gaining weight, we're good.  I told him that we'd started cereal and that he was sleeping through the night.  My pedi is very laid back and always reassures me to go with my instincts.  But let me tell you what bothers me most about my pedi.  I SWEAR he doesn't remember me from visit to visit, or he thinks I don't remember him....whatever...he is a great doctor and even if he contradicts his nurse, I trust him with my baby and that's all that matters.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 10, 2005, 00:20:09 am
OMG!   We gave Luke his first baby veggies...green beans...and he LOVED them.  He laughed and smacked and got aaaaaall excited between bites.  For the past two nights, he's eaten the whole container!!!  It's a 2.5oz container.  I have decided that much to his dismay, I am only going to give half next time.  His excitement is bigger than his tummy, especially since he gets cereal at his 11:00am feeding.  I was worried to start this stuff all so soon, but my wacko pediatrician  :roll: and his nurse agreed that if he wants it, and he'll take it, go ahead and give it.

It's so funny!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 10, 2005, 13:17:12 pm
Oh that is so great!!!!  I can't wait till we go to the dr tomorrow!!! And guess what I saw yesterday???  RED VELVET DRESSES!!!!  I never thought I would be that excited about them, but I am!!  So, here starts the busy season of picture planning, holiday eating and family gatherings.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 11, 2005, 20:41:23 pm
okay....Cait had her 4 month check up.  (insert drum roll here...)  She weighs 16.5 lbs and is 26 inches long!!!!!!  HOLY COW!!  She is in the 95th percentile for height and weight and the dr said she looks great.

We also get to start fruits and veggies  :D   So look out, Luke!!  Here comes Cait!!!  Oh, and the sleeping is going great, we are down for 12 hours straight for the last 4 nights!!  WOOHOO!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 11, 2005, 23:11:14 pm
Jake's appt. is tomorrow, I can't wait! I think he will be close to Cait- atleast 16 lbs. and when my husband measured him the other day with a tape measure, he came up with 27 inches! He is a big boy  :lol:

We haven't started cereal yet, so fruits and veggies may be a little ways away. I did get the whole high chair thing set up so we'll see what doc says about solids. I am looking forward to it.

Bj- 12 hours at night is awesome! Do you feed at all at night or do a dreamfeed? We do a df at about 11 p.m Jake is sleeping about 9.5- 10 hours a night so I cannot complain but 12 would be a godsend :)

I am nervous for tomorrow, I hope the shots aren't too pokey  :?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 11, 2005, 23:21:43 pm
Wow, sounds like you got yourself a keeper BJ.  :lol:  Avery went to her 4 month last monday (so really a couple weeks premature but needed to go for her allergies) and she's my little butter ball. And when I say ball I mean it. She's only 23 3/4 inches long and 14lbs 14ozs. Broken down that comes out to be 30% for height and 75% for weight. Which just cracks me up because I'm short and a little on the round side myself. :oops:  :oops:  :lol: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 12, 2005, 02:44:23 am
Nope, no more dreamfeeds. That really didnt' work for our family schedule.  She gets 2 tablespoons of cereal with bananas mixed with formula that I feed her from a spoon and then what ever bottle is left.  I think that has made all of the difference.  I try to feed her about 8pm, give bottle by 8:20, give a good burp, dry diaper, sleepy jammies, binky in the mouth for a bit of soothing, eyes close, toss her into the crib  (:lol: ) and off to la-la land she goes.  aaahhhhh....and there was peace in the kingdom!!

J-make sure you post Jake's stats. And according to Cait, the shots were VERY pokey.  I just hate my baby being jabbed.....they just don't know what to think of it.

 I will be so glad when Clair gets back on line, I want to know how Red and Ruby are doing.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 12, 2005, 23:03:28 pm
Hey guy's!

Well i'm back...on dial up for now, but its better than nothing!!!

Red-man is doing fine, he is growing so much, i have no stats for him as we don't get regular apts like you guys do, but i want to try to find the time to go and get him weighed soon. I can see though that he has really filled out in the last few weeks, he was long and skinny and is now long and round!! Sleep wise he is doing great, he goes down at 7pm, up for a df at 11pm and then through till 7am-8am ish - fab! The only problem is the reflux still, it is just geting worse, and feeding times are just awful, he will not latch on unless i am walking around with him (thank god he is not as big as Cait!!) and contantly comes on and off to wail in pain :( We have now been refered to the paed so will hopefully be able to get him on some meds soon. Developmentally he is not doing much yet, because of the reflux he will not lie flat and so doesn't get the chance to practise rolling. He is very into his hands and fingers, they are never out of his mouth!! Oh and the drool - it is so gross - slimy and wet all the time - yuk!

Great to hear about all your babies - thanks for asking about me BJ!!!
How did Avery go at the wedding Kayna??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 13, 2005, 01:41:35 am
Jake weighed in at 16 pounds and 27 inches long... now he is too long for his infant carrier car seat! I can't believe how much he has grown, he was such a runt to start. Well, we are going cold turkey on the swaddle tonight, I have just had it with that thing. I am sooo afraid of what the night will bring. We have struggled the last few mornings with him getting out of it and not being able to settle between about 4-7 a.m. The only solution I can come up with is to get him used to his arms and sleeping without it. But the reason he can't sleep is because he has become unswaddled... it is a viscious circle. So I hope we can just ride it out a few nights and he'll get used to it. If not, I'm not sure what to do!!! Swaddle until he goes off to college :0

Anyone else still swaddle?

I am trying to put Jake's pictures on my messages, I can't seem to figure it out. I hope they will be up soon!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Livingmom on October 13, 2005, 02:02:24 am
hey everyone! I have been on this site for sometime now but don't think I have ever posted on this thread. My dd was born on May 31--so she seems to be more on track with the june/july babies then the april/may ones  :D

So anyway--
My dd, Zoey, had her 4 month appointment last week. She is 15 lbs. 1 oz. and 25.5". When the doctor gave the go ahead for rice cereal--I went out that day and bought the bowls and spoons  :lol: I couldn't wait! It is just fun to add something new to the routine--mix it up a little.  :wink: She has been doing great with me--my daycare lady is still trying to figure it out. Oh well.

As for swaddling, Zoey always manages to get out of the swaddle. We only swaddle her now if her hands and legs are the reason she can't get herself to sleep.  Last night though she did quite the feat--we swaddled her and put her in her crib on her sleeping wedge to help keep her on her back. In the morning she was unswaddled, had kicked the wedge to the bottom of the crib and was on her stomach--What a night!  :shock:  :lol:

Well--it has been fun reading all of your posts. Hope every one is having a great week!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 13, 2005, 02:02:44 am
Jennifer-try a sleep sack or something similar.  They sell them at Walmart, I use them on Cait so that she stays warm at night since it is so cold in the house, and it really does make a difference.  I can definitely tell a difference between nap sleeping and night sleeping with it.  Just a suggestion.  We too are out of the carrier, but I dont' think I am going to change till this weekend.  Then for outings, I think I am going to haul the carrier with us since she isn't sitting up on her own yet.  That will make restaurant eating and grocery shopping easier, plus I wont' be violating any laws.  Sometimes, it can really suck to be married to a cop!!!   :lol:  :wink:  :roll:    And what is it with all of these June babies weighing in at 16 pounds????  The dr said Cait was in the 95th percentile for height and weight, so does that mean only 5 children out of 100 are the same as she?  I had to drop my Statistics class in college.....and 10 years later, I still don't understand it.  :roll:

Clair- yes, thank goodness you don't have to haul Cait around.  Sounds as though he is eating well despite the reflux.  I am so sorry you have to deal with that!  And Cait isnt' doing much either.  Of course, I think I am to blame for that.  We have her in a bouncy seat most of the time that we dont' have her in arms, so she doesn't get a chance TO roll over.  Guess I need to fix that.  :roll:

Kayna-where are you g/f??

Amy-green beans still going well?  I keep trying to get to w/m and pick some up, but just can't seem to find the time.  Good grief.

Went shopping for Red velvet dresses today...didnt' find any I liked.  I did however, find a Navy blue one that I am probably going to get at the Children's Place.  Still hunting for the red one.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 13, 2005, 02:05:55 am
Welcome Judy and Zoey!!!  Wow on her tummy????    I am afraid this thread needs to be renamed the "June/July 2005 BUTTERBALLS".  We got some big kids over here!!!  :lol:

Keep us posted.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Livingmom on October 13, 2005, 02:17:19 am
Thanks for the welcome, BJ. Yes--her tummy. Her big thing right now is CONSTANTLY rolling from her back to her tummy--but not knowing how to roll back--and, of course, she hates her tummy. I keep asking her why she rolls over--but I get no answer.  :lol:

Zoey also got two teeth a few weeks ago--it was amazing to see them come so early--but I found out that I got my first two teeth when I was 13 weeks old--so I guess it just runs in the family. Amazingly--she hasn't seemed to fuss about them at all.

I can't figure out how to put a picture with my screen name--but if anyone is interested in seeing (a ton  :wink: ) of pictures we have a blog.
http://www.livingbean.blogspot.com
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 13, 2005, 02:25:08 am
Yes, the green beans are still the big fave over here.  He laughs and laughs.  You'd think we were giving him candy!  I tasted them....don't see what the big deal is  :wink:

We're definitely out of the infant carrier.  Had to get a new bigger carseat.  The one I registered for (and thought that I was a genius for doing so) was big enough for my husband to sit in.  It's good for 5-100 pounds.  HELLOOOOOO!  Doesn't that sound a little extreme?  Anyway, I am sure it is a fine carseat, but it didn't even fit in my Explorer!

On a side note, we took family pictures the last weekend in September and what a reality check that was!  This blubber butt went back on Weight Watchers that Monday.  I am happy to say that I am 10 lbs down!  I gained 62lbs with my pregnancy and still have 15 more to go!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 13, 2005, 02:35:44 am
Well where are the pics, you goose???????

I posted some of Cait and Ry over in the gallery.  Needing to get her dress bought and and outfit for Ryan before we get our family pics done.  I am going ultra multi-tasking.  It will be family photos/Ryan's 4 year pics/ and Christmas pics ALL at the same time!!  LOL.  I am SO short on time and SO long on things to do........(sigh)

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 13, 2005, 02:39:04 am
I don't know how to post them on a gallery.....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 13, 2005, 14:56:11 pm
Hi everyone, it's been so much fun with all the new posts and Clair I'm so glad you're back. I was just about to PM you when I saw another post about the move. Hope you're settling in nicely. Can't be easy with a baby and toddler. :wink:

Avery has actually been having some tests run this week. We know that she is allergic to dairy and I cut that out of my diet over 2 months ago but she continues to have blood in her stool. I cut out soy as well but wasn't sure if there was much of a difference. Anyway, her ped. has run several different tests and all have come up negative (thank God). I have been keeping a log of her poops (how fun does that sound  :roll: ) and it's been over a week now since her last bloody stool. :) Unfortunately if she does have another one we need to go to Rochester (another city with a ped. GI) to have more testing (aka: camera in her bowels to look at her intestines to make sure they are developing correctly).  :cry:

It may sound bad but myself and her ped. are very optimistic since she is growing beautifully and her disposition is unbelievable. I did try going back on the soy but within a week she was getting fussy and spitting up more so back off we went and she's back to her happy self. :lol:

Needless to say with all her "complications" I'm continuing to wait on the solids but she is starting to pay a little bit of attention to us when we eat. :D

I'm picking up new portraits of the kids today and hopefully I can get the scanner to work and will post them. I can't believe how fast our little May/June/July babies are growing.

Keep us updated I love them and I'll let you know how the "poop" :lol:  :lol:  8)  8) is on this end. :wink:

PS: Clair, the wedding went well, thank you for asking. Avery took her bottles really well but was glad to have her "breastfriends back." The kids stayed the night at my parents and though dh and I had a blast it was so nice getting back to the kids and our "real" life. Funny how time away from the kids only makes you wanna get back to them. :oops:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 13, 2005, 15:01:14 pm
Well, we went cold turkey on the swaddle last night and to my surprise we had a pretty usual night. It did take him longer to settle at bedtime,  his hands kept pulling the pacifier out which he usually uses when he goes down.He slept straight through until 5 a.m with a few more cries during the night, but not enough for us to respond.  But then morning rolled around and we were in the same boat. Couldn't settle with his arms out, I think he is a light sleeper in the wee hours of morning! I patted him for an hour and watched him fall asleep many times only to wake up due to his hands rubbing his face. Finally at 6 am I checked for wetness and he was soaked. So I figured I had nothing to lose, he was already awake and upset, I changed pj's and diaper and swaddled him. He looked exhausted and I figured if I could give him just a little peaceful sleap.... He was still sleeping at 7:30 a.m. I feel bad that I caved in but I do feel like we made a huge step last night. I don't want to have to swaddle him every morning but maybe it will take him awhile to get used to his hands during light sleep.

I was too afraid to do it for his nap this morning, he is going to babysitter's later and I don't want him to be cranky and tired. We'll just do it in baby steps! I did put him in a blanket sleeper and wrapped a light blanket around his legs, a half of a swaddle! We'll keep trying! Maybe when he starts to roll over more like Zoey we can throw the swaddle away and he'll be a tummy sleeper :)

Jake rolled over this morning!!!! Just once from tummy to back, his first time! I was pretty excited but he just looked at me like what is the big deal... I hope he does it again!

I bet Zoey looks pretty cute with two little teeth, it will be so weird when they come. It's great they didn't bother her much, I hope our babies are just as lucky :)

Bj- I think your right on the statistics... but I think the babies on this thread are proving it wrong!! We all seem to have big, long babies  :P

Doc gave the okay to start solids, I am a little nervous. Not sure how to go about doing it (when, amount, how often). Anyone know of a good website or book with information on how to inroduce solids?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 13, 2005, 15:06:57 pm
So glad to hear everyone is doing good......as you may have read in some other posts it has been a busy week of firsts for us here!
First bath in big tub without baby tub, we used a little seat thought on Sunday night
First snowfall for Caeden on Monday
Four month birthday and First tooth on Tuesday
Went to sleep on his own (I didn't hold him or sit with him or pat him or anything) for the first time on Wednesday (and has continued today!)

We are still battling teething issues though - nights have been rough. Not sure if the teeth are sore or if we ought to move to a 4 hour schedule (both can cause what we are going through!) He has been up 2-4 times every night all week. Needless to say - I am so tired! Thankfully - DH has had a slow week and been home later into the mornings, so I have gotten an extra hour a couple times. Amazing what an hour of sleep will do!

Our 4 mo checkup is next Mon so we will let you know how big he has gotten..... I cannot believe how big the babies are!

Have a good week!

BTW - whoever asked... we are still swaddling, don't know who else is.... but he sleeps better and isn't too complaning of it - fusses a little but knows it is bedtime when I do it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 13, 2005, 15:09:44 pm
Kayna- sorry to hear about Avery's problems, hopefully nothing will show up in the diaper besides poop and there will be no more tests! It's scary when something is going on and we don't know why and it is out of our control. You'll both be in be in my prayers, hang in there :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 13, 2005, 15:47:20 pm
Thanks Jennifer. We believe in the power of prayer pretty strongly.

I was wondering about swaddling. Avery still gets swaddled as well. I do leave her right hand out so she can suck but the rest is snug as a bug. I worry about having to wean her but it works so good right now.  I just swaddle her up for naps and bedtime and she knows it's sleep time and off she goes to dreamland. Not sure that I'm ready to leave that "safe place" yet. :wink:  :roll:  :oops:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 13, 2005, 16:41:35 pm
I hear you Kayna...... I am not ready to try without swaddling yet either. For one, every other time I have tried it has not gone well and two, it is getting colder at night here, and sometimes days too and this keeps his little hands under covers and warm. So, I think I will keep swaddling him as well. I figure if that is the only "prop", he will get rid of it eventually and until thne its really not a big deal!

Hope all Avery's tests come back okay and they find out what is bothering her. She'll be in our prayers as well!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 13, 2005, 17:57:37 pm
It's good to hear that others are still swaddling, I don't want to give it up either. He sleeps so much better with it. But I can't seem to get him to stay in it in the morning hours. Throughout the night he works himself out and then can't sleep without it  :( He even has a special swaddle blanket but it eventually gets loose. So, he either needs to get used to the arms or stay in his swaddle  :? There seems to be no solution at the moment!

Ya for Caeden's first tooth! Hopefully the teething pain will lighten up. And the first snowfall is exciting! Do you live near Denver, Colorado? I heard they were getting quite a bit of snow. Won't be long now in my neck of the woods.

I am off to work  :( I only work a few evenings a week but I sure hate when it is time to go. Have a good day everyone!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 13, 2005, 18:14:29 pm
Yeah - we are about an hour south of Denver, sometimes get thieir storms, sometimes we get from the south and they don't get at all!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: stasztk on October 13, 2005, 18:37:01 pm
I am a dough head I know I should have joined this chat awhile ago :roll:


I will read back. Any of you mind having me????? (No puppy-dog-eyes emoticon, crap..)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 13, 2005, 19:06:49 pm
The more the merrier!!  I have read all of the latest posts, but will have to respond tonight.  I am at work, and lo and behold, I actually have something to do.  Later.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 13, 2005, 19:22:09 pm
Anybody else experience the "HA HA!  Just kidding!" method of teething?  We have drool galore and are biting our hands over here, and I even felt a tooth last month, but it seems to have been sucked back in.

As for the swaddle.....Luke was out of that when he started rolling over to his tummy.  He was so glad to be on his tummy that I guess it didn't bother him that he wasn't in a swaddle anymore. 

I sure do miss that kid during the day.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: babesx2 on October 13, 2005, 20:32:07 pm
hi all only seen this thread/post (is that wot u call them sorry feeling bit brain dead  :oops: )

we have twin boys born on 28th june AND the 29th june
havein few probs with feedin at mo.really gets me down at times  :cry:

hope u dont mind me just buttin in like this

sarah n boys x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 13, 2005, 21:16:43 pm
Welcome Sarah!!  glad to see you here.  What is your difficulty with the feeding?  Are you bottling or b/f??  Tell us the boys stats, we would to hear them.  You will be the first twins in our little group.  Congrats.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: stasztk on October 13, 2005, 21:32:38 pm
Ack my baby is doing the same thing, Amy! "I am teething.......No I'm not!" Sorry to hear you have to be away from him already.. :cry:




Anyone having trouble with the all of the sudden clinginess?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: babesx2 on October 13, 2005, 21:36:53 pm
thanx bj

had them both weighed today aiden 1st twin is 12lb 8oz anthony twin 2 is 12lb 8oz as well  :)

im bottle feedin now woz bf in the beging,aiden has always been the crankyer 1 of the 2,but lately the only time hes been happy and contented is straight after his feed and nappy change (not always happy when feedin) for about half hour then he starts cryin then he screamin never new such alittle chap could b sooooo very loud  :cry:  there is just no consouling him.his naps have shortened ask hv and for once she seemed to take me seriously and said mayb his tummy was full but he wasnt full (does that make sense) and amyb he was havin a growth spurt ???? all maybs told me try him on No2 formular but leave a week or 2 1st.............  :cry:  can we wait that long i doubt it feel useless when he screamin and nothin i do makes any differance

sarh n boys xx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 13, 2005, 22:08:59 pm
Well, God bless you Sarah.  I am worn out with one!

keep us posted!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Livingmom on October 14, 2005, 02:04:43 am
hey--I finally got my avitar to work! yeah  :D

Anyway--I have just got Zoey to bed (finally) after a little bit of cuddling she went down pretty easy. Oops-- :roll: I take that back--I hear DH pat-shushing right now. it always happens when the pacifier falls out  :lol: Oh well!

Here is a question--since you all have lo's the same age. Zoey takes pretty good naps in general--2 hours in the morning, 2 hours in the afternoon at daycare and then we let her catnap for about 40 minutes in the evening. We have set bedtime around 8pm--but she isn't always tired. Do you all still have the evening catnap and/or do you let bedtime come naturally or do you say 8pm is bedtime and that's the way it goes?
Just curious.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 14, 2005, 02:28:50 am
From what I am gathering Sarah, you are in the UK, or Australia maybe?  Cait isnt' much of a napper herself, but we make it through the day with a couple of good ones.  She is sleeping wonderfully at night, so I will not complain about the days.  Could the formula be hurting his tummy?  We have Mylicon drops here in the states to help relieve gas on the tummy, from what I have gathered, is that the same as Gripe water?  Not real sure....but have you tried something like that?  I will tell you that Cait is eating 6-8 oz about every 3-4 hours.  At night, she gets about 2 tablespoons of cereal and a 6 oz bottle and it has made a world of difference.  Your boys are about 3 weeks behind Cait and I started her on cereal at 14 weeks.  I think Amy was right behind me, or she may have started right before me, Luke and Cait were born the same day.  So...not really any solid advice....just my personal exp.  Maybe you can pull some kind of information from what our little ones are doing and see how it may pertain to the Aidan and Anthony.  Keep us posted.

Hey, Amy...what time was Luke born?  Just curious.( have I asked that already???  sorry)  I have been feeling for teeth, but nothing happening.  But man!!!  The drool!!!  She has irritated the left side of her upper chest, neck and her 1st chin  :roll: with all of it.  She looks like a bad case of eczema gone crazy!!!!

S-not having the clingy thing going...yet.  I didnt' go through it till much later with Ryan so hoping to repeat with Cait.  What is going on with your Kaitlyn?

Living mom-  With our schedules, during the week, Cait usually gets her capnat on the 40 minute commute home. At 8pm, we settle down with our cereal and bottle and she is off to bed by 8:30pm.  I can definitely tell when I am pushing it past her "bedtime" window.  She is a creature of habit and she goes down real easy after that.  Some ppl have a bath routine, we have dinner routine.  Whatever works.  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: babesx2 on October 14, 2005, 11:29:43 am
im in the uk have ammened my profile,been tryin get apic of our 2 little tinkers on as well but with out sucess  :?

sounds like our gripe water,yes they are both havin it in there bottle,along with colief drops which breack down the lactose make it easyer for there tums to digest,anthonys not to bad with wind but aiden has few realy bad days with it,think it get traped lower down cuz when hes realy bad it comes out bottom way  :wink:  and realy loud i can tell u lol
have decied not to wait and am trying him on No2 formular for hungerer babies,i THINK   :? he had it this morning but not 100% that i didnt get there bottles mixed up.will have c how we go,mum has said about baby rice but hv has said not to b4 6months !!!!!!!!! guess if No2 form doesnt work then will try,have go with your gut feelings dont u.

my 2 are on between 4-7oz anthony rarely takes more than 4 on last feed ?? have no idea y

how much does Cait weigh now ?? lovely name btw

oh ps i certainly cant complain about there sleepin at nite,which make me wounder if aidne was hungry wouldnt he wake at nite ?????? now im confusing myself even more lol

sarah xx

Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 14, 2005, 15:41:27 pm
New here!
My name is Adria, I live in Colorado USA, I am 23, I have been married for 3 years, I am a first time mom to Jency Paul Douglas born June 30, 2005.  We also have two messes of dogs named Brandi and Oliver.  Jency loves to watch them.
We pretty much are going through the same things as everyone else.  The only difference is that at night Jency will wake up screaming bloody murder at least once a night about an hour to two hours after a feeding.  The only thing that calms him is bouncing on my exercise ball then he will burp or let gas.  We have been working on naps off and on for awhile now and just this week he has gotten the hang of going back to sleep.  He used to only sleep for 30min at a time but now he goes 45 min and then I pat/shsh him for 5-20 min and then he will sleep for another 15-30min.  He just started this week.  I am so happy.  Yesturday I didn't even have to pat/shsh him I just stuck the pacifier in for less then 2 min and took it out and put my hand on his back and kissed his cheek and he tossed off and on for awhile and then went to sleep.  Today I only had to give him his pacifier pat/shsh for 3 min and he was gone.  ALthough I couldn't get the pacifier out.  Nights are hard.  He still gets up two-three times to eat and then he has 1-2 scream seshions and then from 6am on he is up and down every 30min.  We just moved him to his own room last night and my mom is visiting for 3 nights and will be staying in there with him for the transition.  Once we get him used to that room and sleeping good at nap time we will start working on night time stuff. He used to sleep good at night and then at around 6 weeks it started to go down hill and by 12 weeks it was gone.  He has really bad gas and I think he has gas pains for laying down all night.  I don't really know what's up.  Took him to the Dr. 2 days ago and he said it was just habitual waking.  I am going to take him for his 4 month app. on the 31st and ask him to check for reflux.

Should we start a new thread?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 14, 2005, 15:54:59 pm
Judy- Jake sounds a lot like Zoey, he takes about the same amount of naps. Two big ones and a 40 min. catnap. Right now, his bedtime is about 8:30 p.m. with the bath/bedtime routine starting about 8 p.m.

Depending on when he had his catnap he is not always tired but we still stick to that time. It seems he can stay up 2.5-3 hours at the most at the end of the day and if his catnap ends before 6 pm we usually end up with a tired baby. But if his catnap is between 6-7 pm he seems okay and not really tired but still goes down at the same time. The timing all depends on when he takes his afternoon nap. I think a set bedtime is good, it helps set their internal clock. We try not to let him nap any later than about 6:45 pm so he can stay up awhile before bedtime. If he has had a good nap day, it works out great.

I am not sure when we can drop that catnap, right now there is no way he could stay up from his afternoon nap which usually ends about 2:30-3pm until bedtime, he defiantly needs a little shut eye!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 14, 2005, 16:02:25 pm
Sarah, I am all about listening to your gut.  If you think cereal might benefit the boys, then I say try it.  No one said that once you start it and it doesn't work right now, doesn't mean you HAVE to keep it up. Put it down and try again in a week/2 weeks.

Cait is 16.5 lbs and let me tell you....she is not slowing down in the feed bag dept.  This kid can put away some food!!  So much for having a sweet petite little girl!   :roll:   And thank you for the compliment on her name.  Her name is actually Caitlyn, but she looks much more like a Cait to me.  :)

Welcome Adria!!!  Sounds as though you have a very sweet little boy.  I can't really help in the nap dept.  Our naps are still around 45 minutes in the morning.  Dh can get her to take a long nap in the afternoon and then just cat nap before settling down for the night.  So one of these lovely ladies I am sure will be able to tell you a thing or two on how to resolve this problem.  Who knows, maybe I will learn something also!!

So I have a question.  Cait sleeps in her own room, in her crib and has since she was about 3 weeks old.  (My children outgrew the bassinette very quickly)  We have a connecting door from the nursery to our room.  I sleep on my side of the bed and am 6 feet or less from her crib.  I leave her door pulled to, but not closed.  Does that make sense?  Well last night was kinda rough, she kept waking up enough to find her hands and suck on them, making ALL kinds of noise.  I never had to get up with her and she always soothed her self back to sleep.  So my question is, should I close the door all the way?  Actually....don't answer that, I can't do it yet.  I am terrified of SIDS.  So here is a another question.  How far away are you from your LO and do you have a monitor on at night?  Or is LO still sleeping in your room?  Just curious to see where everyone else is at this age and on this subject.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on October 14, 2005, 16:33:53 pm
Joey is probably 10 feet away.  Our door is open, his is pulled to, but not closed.  I used a monitor in the very beginning, but because he was so close I think he heard himself on it and woke up even more!!

Just an update if anyone's interested, Joey laughed yesterday for the first time.  I never felt my heart explode like that.  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 14, 2005, 16:44:10 pm
We moved Caeden into his room after my MIL left after he ws born - about 6 weeks old. He was in a co-sleeper in our bed up to that point. He was in his cradle in his room until last week when he moved to the crib mattress. Yeas - just the mattress....no crib yet.... DH says he is going to build one..... (AHHH - I hope it is soon - I am running out of patience - but that's another topic!)

Anyway - he is about 10-15 feet away in the room across the hall, I leave both doors open, no moniters. I hear about everything I think :wink:
Sometimes we will close his door if we get up before he does - that's pretty rare though!

Once he is in a crib I will probably try closing the door in the evenings anyway - I like to be able to see him at this point sleeping! I too am a little paranoid of SIDS! So - I often go in a just watch him sleep and check on him. Even in the middle of the night when I wake and he isn't up!  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 14, 2005, 16:44:46 pm
Oh - Adria - Welcome!
I am in Colorado too - what part are you in? PM if you want!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: babesx2 on October 14, 2005, 17:25:28 pm
our boys are about 2 feet away from us still in our room and still baskets,though not for much longer,their room is down the hall from ours so wen they eventually go in there (which im findin harder and harder to do) i will use amonitor wont close our door mite have to close theres just till cats get used to not goin in there.

but b4 all that we ahve to get a cot sorted we only have 1 and that got no matteress lol

sarah x

ps bj been talkin to me mum today and she thinks same about baby rice,and your rite if it dont work dont have to carry on,reasurance is a good thing thanx xx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 14, 2005, 18:57:28 pm
Wow, I have some catching up to do, and I know that I won't be able to answer everyone...

As for all of you, the best thing that we have found for protecting Luke's chin with the drool is AQUAPHOR!  We put a thin layer on everytime we think about it.

Luke was born at 5:57pm on Friday, June 10 by c-section after being in the hospital with doctors trying to induce me since Tuesday the 7th :shock:

I'm with BJ - if you think the cereal will help your babies, try it.  There's no rule that says you can't try it again later if it doesn't work, but if it does work, you'll be sooooooooo glad you tried!

I have been wondering about the noise thing too.  We have Luke's monitor in his room and the "out-put" end is in our bathroom.  We have a sequestered master, so we can't hear him without it!  Only problem is that I hear EVERYTHING.  Any suggestions?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 14, 2005, 19:24:33 pm
Oh yeah, by the way, I still get tears in my eyes everytime Luke laughs.  DH is growing a beard and the other day, we got BIIIIG belly laughs when he rubbed Luke's foot on his chin!  At least one of us likes his beard.  I hate the thing, but if it'll get laughs like that, we're keepin' it!

Naps.....these vary sometimes b/c he is at daycare and all the cryin' babies distract him a times, but most days Luke will take about a two hour nap in the morning and about a two or sometimes THREE  :shock: hour nap in the afternoon and usually a little cat nap around 4 or 5. 

This is what is so odd.  Luke eats every 4 hours, but no matter WHAT time he has his afternoon bottle, whether it be 2, 3, or 4, he still wants his bottle at 6:00pm without fail.  You can almost set your watch by it! How odd is that?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 17, 2005, 00:34:21 am
Jency was sleeping in the play pen right next to the bed.  Thursday night we moved him to his own room.  It is also the guest room (and 10x10 room, very crowded right now).  So my mom came and slept in there with him for 3 nights.  Tonight is his first night alone but he has been taking his naps there too.  He didn't seem to have any trouble with the transition.  He actually doing better...I think.  There is a Jack n' Jill bathroom between the bedrooms.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 17, 2005, 01:40:45 am
Just popping to say that both weekend days, Cait woke up 45 minutes after putting her down for nap and both days I picked her up, stuck the binky back in and held her for a few minutes and she went back to sleep.  Now today, she did that but when I put her in the crib, I was less than graceful about it and jarred her awake.  :roll:   At this point, I just really wanted her to go back to sleep.  She fussed for maybe 2-3 minutes and gave a pitiful cry.  I ignored her (was watching the Astro's :oops: ) and the next thing I knew.....she was asleep. 
Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Just thought I would share.  Now I need to get Dh on the same page so I break this habit she has.  Progress, ladies, progress being made. :D

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 17, 2005, 02:05:01 am
I can't get past Luke needing the paci to go to sleep.  This whole weekend it has been such a struggle to get him to go down b/c he wants his paci, but he needs to chew on his hand, too.   OH THE DROOL!!!!!!!

Friday and Saturday night he woke up at three am screaming his brains out and we had to feed him to get him to go back down.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 17, 2005, 11:54:46 am
Yes, Cait too has her binky and then procedes to knock it out with her fist and then gets all ed off because she can't get it back in.  Well you goose, don't take it out to begin with!!!!! aaarrhhhhh!!!!!

So what is your theory on the whole 3 am thing, Amy?  Cait started to get real restless at 5 am, woke me up.  I had to get up at 5:30 for work anyway, so not to much of a hardship, but I was wondering how I was going to get her to settle down.  Luckily, she never woke up.  Hopefully she is still asleep for dh.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 17, 2005, 16:12:59 pm
Oh tell me what is wrong with this boy!!!!!
He has been up every 2 hours every night for the last week!!!!! :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
At first I thought it was his teeth and just figured it would get better.... now I am thinking I need to do something, but I am not sure what.......

AHHHH - I am so tired!
Okay - more later - we are on our way out the door for the day, Caeden has his dr's appt and we are going to see my mom too. Maybe all the moving around will keep me awake!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 17, 2005, 17:20:32 pm
Jennifer,
That is what Luke was doing before we started him on Cereal.  Made a HUUUUUUUUUGE difference.

BJ,
We are going to try adding one ounce to each bottle to see if that helps.  He woke up at 4 this morning and only needed his paci.  Hopefully everything will work out with just getting more food.

The little dude's eye has been swollen for two weeks.  I know that it is allergy related, but it won't go away.  The pedi just told me to do a warm we compress 6-8 times a day.  We've been doing that and it isn't getting any better, so we're getting some eyedrops.  Hopefully that will fix it.  His little eye seems to give us problems a lot.  Anyone else dealing with eye goop?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 17, 2005, 17:24:00 pm
We did for about the first 8 weeks of Cait's life.....nasty stuff.  Our dr said it was a clogged tear duct and that she would grow out of it.  Sure enough it went away.  Does it happen while he is asleep and then through out the day?  Kinda of a greenish/yellow color?  Heavier in the corner of his eye?  That is what our problem was. 

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on October 17, 2005, 18:20:22 pm
We had eye goop for about the first two months.  Our dr. said to massage VERY lightly from the inner corner out with clean hands, and NEVER transfer goop from one eye to the other in case of infection.

About the cereal, I kind of missed that conversation, but I've had Joey on it for almost 2 months.  My drs. are totally on board with it, and it makes a huge difference for Joey, esp. with his reflux.

AND, a lot of posts on this site made me feel SUPER bad about giving him cereal (I also give him a dab of fruit with it), like I was condemning him to a life of constipation and malnutrition (no one actually said that, but there were some definite ANTI posts), so I cut back on it.  Joey's reflux and naps got so out of whack, he was up all night, and spitting up constantly.  Now we're back to our regular "doses" and he's doing great!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 17, 2005, 18:35:52 pm
Don't ever let anyone here make you feel bad because of how you are raising your child. No one else is living with your dc day in/day out.  You are making the best decisions you can with your child, and if you didnt' feel as though it were not the right choice, you wouldnt' do it to begin with.  I started Cait at 14 weeks on cereal, and haven't looked back and I dare anyone to *imply* that I have made a bad decision.  I believe I have said once before here, but may have deleted it-----ALL children are not made the same, and no book, dr, expert or God can tell you that every child needs to be treated the same way at the same time.  Every one of them develop at their own speed.  That is what makes them unique and special.           Ahem..... :oops: sorry....I will step off my soapbox now. :roll:

You are doing a great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: babesx2 on October 17, 2005, 18:42:42 pm
hi all

just thought id let ya no the No2 formaular seems to b workin  :lol: (touch wood) his naps are longer and he isnt screaming as soon as he wakes.hes still bit cranky but think thats just him and wind (he does suffer poor little mite)

Joey's mum are u in UK,i no wot u mean about anti cereal post etc our clinic hv and docs are so dead against givin then anythin but milk b4 6months  :? yet if we had ahd our babys last year 3-4months would have been just fine !!!!!!

sarah n boys  xx

ps we also have the goopy eyes thing,but it doesnt last long we just bath it with cooled boiled water (sounds like luke's bit more than ours was) doc said it woas blocked tear duct as well
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 17, 2005, 19:26:00 pm
I don't know about the clogged tear duct thing, but that's what I am supposing it is.  He seems concerned enough to prescribe eye drops.  I do know that he had something for about 6 weeks after he was born that we gave antibiotic eye drops 3x per day for.  Doc didn't say that it was a clogged duct, but a possible infection, and he wants to see him at the end of the week if it is not better.  I really think that this is allergy related b/c the poor little dude is so congested all the time.  It makes me sad that the little dude can't breath right!  It's all in his head, though.  He is not wheezing, he just snorts all the time....my sweet little pigglet! :roll:  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 17, 2005, 19:28:20 pm
POOR LUKE!!!!

BJ
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 17, 2005, 20:25:04 pm
Wow ladies - lots of chatting - i have a lot to respond to!!!!

Eye goop - Red developed this within a day of being born, we bathed is 4 x perday with cooled boiled water and it would not go so we got a course of eye drops that shifted it in 3 days! It is back again now, but not so bad, i am bathing it with cooled boiled water with a bit of salt in it and it is working a treat. The trick to bathing it is this: only wipe the same piece of cotton wool over the eye once - wipe from inner eye to outer eye then dump it, repeat as neccassary until gunk is gone.

Oh bugger - dinner is ready - will come back later and say more!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 17, 2005, 21:33:13 pm
Okay I have no clue about the eye goobers we never had this problem.

But here is one for you all.

About the end of the week and Mon./Tues.ish Jency is due to have a dirty diaper.  About this time he gets REALLY GASSY (and it stinks) and can't sleep because of it.  He is a tummy sleeper and the reason is because when he was little and had gas all the time it helped to lay him on his tummy.  Now it seems that it hinders him but we can't put him on his back because he won't sleep he thinks it's play time.  When he gets to the 45min mark (or at night the 1.5 hour mark) he will go back to sleep easy if he doesn't have gas.  But with the gas he wakes up crying until you pick him up and help him get it out.  We use Mylicon after meals and before bed but it doesn't seem to help.  Any suggestions?
Thanks
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 18, 2005, 22:55:24 pm
Adria - how about some baby massage - that might help him to pass some of the gas.

I just wanted to say something about the whole solids debate. I agree that you should do what you feel is right for your baby and your family. I started Ruby on solids at 17 weeks, but have not intention of starting Red until 6 months, that said, if he shows signs of readiness before then, we will re-assess. The one thing i get so heated about is when the cereal gets put in the bottle - this is so so dangerous. It is just because i nursed a 6 month old who was left severely mentally retarded because he choked on cereal in a bottle. Makes me upset to think of him even now.

We are having a lot of feeding problems here, very very fussy. I am struggling to get even a small feed in him at the moment. I have to stand and walk with him as this is the only way he'll feed! Jennifer - what is Caeden doing feed wise now? I tried Red on 3.5 hourly rather than the 2.5-3 hourly he has always been on, and he went from sleeping through to waking for a night feed, so he still obviously needs the extra cals he gets from the extra feed on 2.5-3 hourly.

Daytime sleep wise he is doing great! Given the chance he will take 2 hour naps, but often we have to be places and i have to wake him up  :(  poor guy does so well!

Hope you're all ok x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 18, 2005, 23:34:17 pm
OK, here's one for ya...

Today I am finally to the point where I am thinking, "This working thing isn't so bad.  I like my students, I like my school, I LOVE Luke's daycare because I know they are lovin' all over him!!"  Then on the intercom comes, "Mrs. Stoker, can you take a phone call?"  I'm exasperated b/c I think it is a parent and I am in the middle of class, so why couldn't they take a message??  That's what they always do, but then I say "Who is it?"  They say "It's your son's daycare."  I felt like someone had punched me in the stomach.  I get on the phone and the director of the daycare says "Luke is not keeping anything down.  He had taken about 3 ounces of his bottle and with the bottle still in his mouth lost all of it.  We changed his clothes and the caregiver had to change hers as well.  They started again and again he threw everything up.  He's not his usual happy self and is very upset.  I'm going to leave it up to you as to whether or not you want to come get him, but he's not keeping anything down."  WELL DUH!!!!!  What do you think I did?  Maybe I am a little overly cautious, but wouldn't you have gone and picked up your kiddo, too?  He's not running fever is in a pretty decent mood this evening, but he still can't keep anything down.  Whatever he gets comes right back up.  So, we are sipping 2 oz at a time every hour and a half or so.  I think it's gonna be a long night, girls :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 19, 2005, 01:30:02 am
Oh Amy!!!!  What a nightmare!!!!  Yes, I would have gone to him in an instant.  Ryan will be 4 next month and we do a "drop in" daycare from time to time, and on those days, My boss knows NOT to question me if I get a call and go flying out of the office.  So 4 months or 4 years....it doesn't matter, you fly like the wind.

So what do you think the deal is?  Just a tummy bug?  Are the kids too young for pedialyte?  We have never had cause to use it, so I don't know what the age limits are.  Keep us posted on his condition!

Clair-Just wanted to let you know that we do not do cereal out of a bottle.  We definitely do it off a spoon!!  My theory is....if you are going to start introducing "food" then introduce it the way it will be eaten for the rest of her life.  :roll:   Of course, I have been accused of being weird  :roll:  :wink:   And loved the pics of your get together with the other UK moms.  Looks like such fun.  Where did ya'll meet?  Looks like a neat place!!

Oh, and is anyone else in size 3 diapers???  My poor huge child.... :lol:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 19, 2005, 01:42:14 am
Rooby-Rooby-Roo:  Jency went through the same thing just awhile back.  I finally just gave in and fed him until he decided he was done.  To my surprise when I started doing that he still went 3 hours with no problem.  He actually will even go 3.5 hours some times.  He eats for 10-12 min exactly.  If he takes 8 min on the first side he will only do 3 on the other or if he does 5 on the first he will only due 5 on the second.  And he will NOT do one side alone he thinks he MUST have both sides.
My Ped. said that they can get everything that they really need in the first 5 minutes so I guess he is doing fine.  Just go how ever long he wants to go and see what happens.

Amy:  I would have gone!!  Try pedialite.  It will replenish him.  It is safe to use.  We had to use it at 10 days.  But it will not keep them satisifed very long.  Kinda like water.  You may have to give it to hime ever hour or so.

bj&ry:  We are only in size 2.  Sorry.

Oh and Jency went to bed late 3 nights a week or two ago and actually slept better so I'm not sure what was up with last night, up EVERY HOUR!! Last week he would only wake at 11:30 for his pacifier and then 1:00 to eat and then 2/3 for a cry and paci, and then 5:00 to eat and then up at 7/8.  We were trying to work through the 11:30 and 2/3.  Then last night he was up every hour!!!!!!!!!
  And last week he was doing so good with his naps.  He would go 45min and then I would help him put himself to sleep.  yesturday afternoon he even didn't need me and put himself to sleep but yesturday morning and all day today he would wake at the 45min and then be ready to get up and would cry and cry if I tried to get him to go back to sleep.  I finally put him in the swing for a nap and he slept 2.5 hours.  But it seems like after he sleeps a long time in the swing he has really bad gas and is REALLY fussy.  I wish he would just sleep in his crib!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 19, 2005, 01:51:09 am
We are in size 3 BJ but only because I ran out of two's and had some three's handy.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

PS: posted some pix of my kiddos in the photo gallery.  :wink:  Can't believe how time flies.  :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 19, 2005, 16:27:52 pm
We did give half-strength formula made with pedialyte instead of water.  He got two ounces about everyhour and a half if he was awake.  The little dude slept all afternoon and all night!  I was so worried that we would be up all night long, but he's a champ :-)  He's back to his old self today.  In fact, I called day care and they said he was acting hungry, so I told them that they could give him a little cereal if he would take it.  I think it was just a little 24 hour bug.  Many of my students have been out with it.  I will NEVER get a stomach bug, but I always bring it home to my hubby, so I guess Luke got it.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 20, 2005, 15:07:01 pm
Hi guys! I feel like I have been out of the loop.... we went away for the weekend to see my grandma - had a blast, grandma loved seeing Caeden and he was great for her.

Amy - How did Luke do today? Feeling better now?

Clair - Caeden was getting pretty consistent at 3 hour apart feeds - finally and then he started getting up ALOT at night, not sure if it was teething or ready for 4 hour EASY, so I tried moving him to 4 hour apart feeds and he does okay sometimes, but was still getting up ALOT at night - naps have stayed okay thru-out. SO - I think I am going to go back to 3-3 1/2 hr feeds and try and get nights better before going any longer between feeds. He can go 3 hours easy, but 4 hours is a push when I am the only one around him. When he is with others or we are in the car or something, he does better. At this point I would rather stay on 3 hour feeds and have him sleeping at night!  He only goes 1 1/2 to maybe 2 hours between naps, so we still have A both sides of E every now and then. But he is getting better at naps too. We may be getting close to going to the 2 long naps and a catnap. We'll see!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 20, 2005, 15:16:58 pm
For some reason it wasn't showing me the past posts so I couldn't remember everything I wanted to respond too......

Clair - I have noticed if I feed Caeden earlier then about 2 1/2 or 3 hours apart he does not eat well at all. Sometimes its a push, but he really eats much better 3 or more hours apart. Maybe Red is ready to be pushed a little further? I know it is hard to do cause the "food" is sitting right there in front of him :wink: I often try to let Caeden play on his own just before feeds cause he can push a little further if I am not holding him!

We are still in size one diaper......... I didn't think he was that small, but he seems to have a "slim" waist. They still fit just fine and don't leak often, so I will keep using them till he can't wear them! I may get the size 1-2 when I get the next batch. Anyone else still in size one?
 :D  :D  :D

I have not introduced solids yet....... am I the only one?  I have been thinking about it, but really wanted to wait till closer to 6 months. And we are going to Phoenix for Thanksgiving and it would be easier to wait till after we came home. I am afraid I will get too much "help" on what he should be eating and "help feeding" from the niece and nephews..... it would be easier if he just was BF till we came home. So I think I will wait - unless I cannot get the night waking under control in the next week or so - then maybe I will try it! :wink:  :wink:

How long do you cluster feed in the evening or dream feed?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 20, 2005, 15:20:00 pm
Oh - I forgot!

Caeden's 4 month dr visit went well -
He is 13 pounds, 10 ounces and 25 1/8" long.
He had another set of shots and did okay, had a fever on Tues of 100.8 but it went down with Tylonel and a good nap!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Ennypen on October 20, 2005, 15:26:49 pm
Hi all - hope you dont mind me jumping in ....

Ive been posting on the site for a few weeks and have plucked up the courage to say hi here... Here's some general background info about my DS...

William was born on July 18th 2005 making him 3 months old.. he was 17lb 10oz this week when the health visitor came - but she assures me he isnt fat hes just very tall for his age and therefore fairly heavy. I'm not sure if nappy sizes here are the same as in the US but Ive had to put him in size 4 pampers this week!! He's also just fitting into 3-6 month clothes and if he continues how he's going he will be in 6-9 month clothes at 4 months!
He has about 6 oz of milk (sometimes eight) about 3.5 hourly and wakes acouple of times in the night.. The HV says not to introduce any solids yet but it may have to happen if his milk stops satisfying him - which it seems to be at the moment.

Well thats him - I hope that I can join in more with your conversations and get to know you all a bit better in time - it's great to have other mommies with babies the same age as mine as a point of reference - even though I realise how huge William is!!

Helen xxx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 20, 2005, 15:57:22 pm
jennifer, my plans are to wait until 6 months to give avery solids. don't worry you're doing fine and your baby does not need solids yet. :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 20, 2005, 16:18:10 pm
Thanks Kayna!

And welcome Helen - William looks like a healthy and happy baby!

Okay - gotta get off here and go get something done... like a shower :wink:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 20, 2005, 16:41:02 pm
If your baby is truly ready for solids then the breast milk or formula won't satisfy him anymore.  That's how you'll know.  Every baby is different.

Luke is better.  We went to the pedi yesterday and the diagnosis is that he has a cold and the mucus in his tummy could be causing the projectile spit-up, or it could be reflux.  He gave us meds for the reflux hoping that it will help.

I think i am going to switch pediatricians.  I love him as a person, but I have mentioned reflux three times and each time I have been dismissed as if I don't know what in the hell I am talking about.  Well, I know that he is a medical professional, but I also know that I see my baby every day and every night and I know him just a little bit better.  Sorry if you all think I am an idiot, but I don't like it when someone I am paying doesn't take my concerns very seriously.  I also didn't like the fact that he let loose on me about giving Luke solids already.  Different pediatricians have different opinions on that, and I respect that.  However, when I am doing what is completely appropriate in many other pediatricians' minds, I do not feel it is appropriate for him to tell me that I am off the wall.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 20, 2005, 17:14:23 pm
Oh, and welcome Helen!  Jennifer, glad you're back.  To answer one of your questions, Luke still has some size one diapers at daycare that they are finishing up.  I prefer the size2, just b.c they aren't so tight.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 20, 2005, 17:24:14 pm
Good for you, Amy.  I would switch dr too.  I had a dr who told Ryan that he was getting an "ouchie" (shot) that day, I was like WTH?????  Dont' stress them out more than you have too, before the deed is done.  We have taken great strides to make sure that Ry doens't fear the dr and what goes with it, but when you give routine checkups and shots "mean" names, it kinda negates all of our hard work.   :roll:   What an idiot.

Any way, welcome Helen!  Glad to see ya.

And Jennifer, you do what you think is best for your child.  Because in the end, YOU are the one who has to live with them, and it makes your world easier to do what you think is best.   :wink:

I will post later.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 20, 2005, 19:11:10 pm
Jennifer- I haven't started solids yet either, I think more and more about it everyday. I'm not sure Jake is ready and not sure how I will know. He sits up real good with assistance, has doubled his birth weight, is eating about 26-32 oz. a day... it's hard to say if he is interested in my food, he seems interested in everything!

I'm not sure how to go about it with the daily schedule and all. Some things I read say to give the solids before the bottle and others say after. My pediatrician said before because that is when he will be hungry but I saw a few posts on the solids board of people giving solids about an hour after the bottle. For those of you doing solids, which way are you doing it?

I read that you should start to introduce the cup with solids. Has anyone done that? Maybe that should be closer to 6 months. I had never thought it would be this early but it makes since. It's scary and exciting how fast they are growing!  :lol:

I also just switched peitricians. I wanted to stick with one but I didn't feel listened too and she made me feel bad about my decisions. It's much better when you can find someone who cares enough to answer a list of questions from a first time mom, even though they have other patients to get to  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 20, 2005, 19:31:33 pm
We had to do the bottle vs solids thing by trial and error.  We were giving him his cereal first, but then he wouldn't take his bottle.  I am still of the opinion that he needs all of his bottles, so we switched the cereal to about 30-45 minutes after his second morning bottle (around 10 am).  His late afternoon nap is getting shorter and he usually isn't ready to have a bottle when he wakes up, so I started giving him his veggies after that nap (around 5:30 or so) and then a bottle at 6 before we have a bath and get ready for bed.  We did start with green veggies b/c the yellow/orange ones and the fruits are sweeter and I don't want him to ignore the yummy green veggies just because he likes the sweeter fruit better.

As for the cup thing, I don't think that Luke is ANYWHERE near ready for a cup.  I think I will wait until he's closer to a year for that one.

It's so frustrating because you want someone to just TELL YOU what to do, but it's different for every kid (and as my kid has proven, different for every feeding  :wink:

The decision to change pediatricians felt so good once I made the decision.  I should not feel guilty, stupid, or incompetent for taking my child to the doctor when there is something wrong, and I shouldn't leave there wishing that I had just a little more information.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 20, 2005, 20:49:37 pm
Hey all,

Red is not on solids and won't be for a while yet i think. I started Ruby at 17 weeks but Red is just not ready, he is still such a baby!!

Anyone else's baby not doing much?? He is not rolling, sitting etc yet, he coos and gurgles and plays with his feet and smiles and giggles loads. The problem is that with the reflux he can't lie flat and so he never gets the chance to practise the rolling.

Amy - what i did with Ruby when she was on solids was give the bottle first until she was 6 months and then do half and half. The logic being that until 6 months the milk is meant to be their main source of nutrition and you wouldn't want them dropping a bottle in favour of solids at this early age.

Well we had a break through today, we saw a different doctor who prescribed us the ranitide (zantac) yay! Finally we can do away with the feed thickener and might see my baby pain free for once!!! The fussy feeding is just vile - but FWIW Jennifer i think you are right - i need to make it 3 - 3.5hourly rather than 2.5 - 3 hourly. He does feed better when he goes longer.

Red was weighed today (but only with me holding him while on the scale - so not v accurate) and he is about 7kgs or 15 lbs ish.

He is in size 3 nappies - but UK sizes. The size one goes from 5-11lbs, size 2 from 6-13lbs and size 3 from 9-20lbs.

Welcome Helen, nice to see you and William.

see ya x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 21, 2005, 02:12:06 am
Jency was weighed today and he is 15# 1.
We are starting solids at the beginning of the month when he is 4 months.  We have given him a taste of it every once in a while for the past month (like 3 times) and he eats it really well,  I'm just scared.

What time of the day do you give the cereal to them and how muhc?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Ennypen on October 21, 2005, 14:56:07 pm
Thanks for the welcomes everyone - I will keep checking in with interest.

Stupid question... I dont see many babies of Williams age and have the impression from what people say about him that he is somehow really big for his age... he is 17lb 10 oz (or was on Tuesday) and is about 65 cm long now.. is he really big compared to your los?

I dont mind how big he is really as he is most certainly not a fat baby - yes hes got the baby chubby thighs but thats about it - theres not a spare ounce of flesh anywhere else. I was just wondering as most people I see ask his age then act shocked that hes so young when I tell them...

Helen xx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 21, 2005, 15:11:09 pm
You know Helen, I think baby sizes vary so much...... William is bigger then my Caeden, but he looks healthy and happy and certainly not "huge"  :wink:
And I get the same response from people when I tell them Caeden is 4 months old.... "oh he looks like such a big boy for his age" - well he not quite 14 pounds and so he is not "big for his age", but then again he is also healthy and happy.
Sizes vary so much from child to child it is hard to compare or be concerned with your childs size by just comparing him to others. As long as he is checking out good at his dr visits and they have no concerns and eats and poops well I would say he is doing wonderful. That's just my opinion!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Ennypen on October 21, 2005, 15:26:45 pm
Quote from: CaedensMama
As long as he is checking out good at his dr visits and they have no concerns and eats and poops well I would say he is doing wonderful. That's just my opinion!

And you are so very very right xxx.

I just wish people wouldnt look at him like hes an alien sometimes  - shows they know nothing about babies eh lol.

I guess my slight paranoia is because I have spent my whole life believeing I am huge. I remember feeling fat at 12 and if I look at pics of myself now I was a pretty skinny kid. Now Im "old" I am definately overweight and thats my own fault.. sort of a self fulfilling prophecy I guess.. but I'd hate for William to grow up overweight and will work very hard to prevent this happening to him - without making him paranoid of course!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 21, 2005, 18:59:13 pm
Okay no one is paying attention to my questions! 
Sorry I bothered
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 21, 2005, 20:14:08 pm
Quote from: *Adria's1st*
Okay no one is paying attention to my questions! 
Sorry I bothered

Sorry you feel that way Adria, please try not to take anything personally. We are all busy moms and sometimes only have time to post quickly and not answer specifics. Also, and maybe this is only my take on it, but this thread is for general chatter, if you do have a specific question that you want an answer to quickly then it may be best to post a new topic on the correct board. Please do not be offended by this - its nice to have you here, and with a thread this long - it is easy to forget what you have read.

FWIW since you posted that last question not one one of the moms who gives solids has replied. I beleive that BJ and Amy are the ones giving the solids. When i started my dd#1 i started at 11am ish as then if she had a reaction to any of the foods then i could see it throughout the day. But that is just me. Also, do you think Jency is ready - is he showing the signs of readiness that Cait and Luke were?? I am a great believer of doing on your babies schedule, when they are ready and not when you are, if you know what i mean.

Again, please don't feel put off this thread, were are all in the same place right now, and if you're anything like me - it is a bit of a stressed place right now!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 21, 2005, 20:27:12 pm
Hi helen, i do not think that William looks too big at all, he is all in proportion. Red too is quite long, and people are always telling me how big he is, when actually he is quite skinny, only just on the 50% percentile - so certainly not a giant!!! I have a good friend whose baby was born 10lbs 14oz (at home with no meds incase you wondered!!) and now at 20 weeks he weighs 21lbs, but you know, he looks great and completely in proportion.

I also know exactly what you mean about the weight stuff. I have a real problem with food, and a lot of it was created by my mom's attitude to food and the fact that she was worried i would be overweight so made me diet at an early age. I was in fact a normal size, but now as an adult i have been every size going, i was a UK22 while at uni, and slimmed down to a UK12 (lost 80lbs). Then i had Ruby and gained a lot, and now after my 2nd baby in 2 years i am big again. But whatever size i am, i am determined not to let my worries affect my kids in the way it affected me. Of course i do worry about it, but i will never show it. I think the best we can do for our children is educate them as to what a healthy diet is.

Ugh, we are having a terrible time here, taking Red off of the feed thickener so soon was a huge mistake, we had a terrible night and morning! He did seem better this afternoon though so i hope tonight is better :(  :(

Take care all x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 21, 2005, 20:27:58 pm
OH ADRIA!!!!!!!  I am so sorry.  I usually try to reply to everyone here and in a timely manner, but Clair is right, I am in 90 different directions this week!!!  We have an offer on the property, FINALLY!!!!!   I dont' know for how much, but we will know tomorrow!!!!  I will try to post by the end of the weekend.

As to your question, Adria......I feed Cait 2-3 tablespoons of Rice cereal with bananas mixed in at night, to ensure that she sleeps through the night.  I fed her some yesterday for breakfast, and she really liked that.  It was a good thing too, because she was so tired last night, and we got home past her bedtime that I didn't feed her cereal, but she slept last night all the way through till 7:25.  Oh.....I take that back, I fixed her another bottle between 9-10 pm because she woke up, but I think she was cold, because I hadn't put her sleepy jammies on.   :roll:   Talk about a creature of routine!!!!   So keep posting....we are all here for you.  I enjoy talking to all of you, I just get busy sometimes.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 21, 2005, 22:02:20 pm
BJ, crossing fingers, legs, and toes for you that your offer is a good one.  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 22, 2005, 03:03:21 am
Hey Adria - just a thought on the "gassiness" - I read somewhere that putting a rectal thermeter with some vaseline or jelly on it  with sometimes help them release the gas easier..... don't know if it really works or not. But I read it in a book at the store today and thought of you.......
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 22, 2005, 16:00:41 pm
Thanks.  I tried keeping him upright on my shoulder for 15 min after each feed last night but he still woke up 1.5 hours later crying.  I don't know what's wrong.  He will burp and sometimes let some gas and then he is fine.  I wish the doctor would help me!! :?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 22, 2005, 17:10:01 pm
Another thought Adria - are you breastfeeding?
If yes - is there anything in your diet that he could be reacting to? Dairy is a big one that he may be intolerant or allergic to. Maybe try elimating something there and see if it helps. Caeden gets a little more gassy for me when I have drunk carbonated stuff, soda or something. Not enough to stop me from induling every now and then, but I have noticed it.
Check LaLeche League or Kellymom's websites to see other foods that he could be reacting to.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on October 22, 2005, 21:36:06 pm
Wow, I just found this thread.   So happy to meet so many other moms in the exact same situation.  Hello to you all and hats off to all of you for doing the hardest job on earth as I recently found out having just had my first baby.  It's so much better now than it was at the beginning..... but I didn't start EASY until 3.5 weeks ago.

Ennypen:  How much did your babe weigh at birth?  My ds was 7lbs and he is now 15 and the funny thing is, is that he's only 23 inches long.  Not sure what that is in cm.  I think it's completely normal that he weighs that much.  My thoughts on my son is that he's very active and strong so I put some of the weight down as muscle and not just baby chub.  But I could just be a delusional mother.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 24, 2005, 15:44:30 pm
Hi daisymelon!
Glad to have you.  Actually I think my first 6 weeks where the easiest.  Mind you the most confusing and learning experience but he had a routine that we both liked and I could get things done.  Now he is all over the place.  I have triedto get him on EASY for 1.5 months now and nothing has worked.  He just has so many sleeping issues.
My son was 7# 7 and now is over 15# and all his friends this age are 12# and 13#.  I just figure he is going to be a big guy which is okay with me (I'm 5'1).
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Ennypen on October 24, 2005, 15:55:59 pm
Quote from: daisymelan
Ennypen:  How much did your babe weigh at birth?  My ds was 7lbs and he is now 15 and the funny thing is, is that he's only 23 inches long.  Not sure what that is in cm.  I think it's completely normal that he weighs that much.  My thoughts on my son is that he's very active and strong so I put some of the weight down as muscle and not just baby chub.  But I could just be a delusional mother.

Hiya and Welcome xx
William was 7lb 4oz at birth and was 17lb 10z last week so I reckon hes about 18lb now... he is slowing down a bit now and is eating less as he has started sleeping for longer at night. Your baby at 23 inches is about 58.4 cm long - William is about 60cm or so now. I agree after my hours of paranoia that Williams size is totally normal. As other posters have said he is totally in proportion and like your LO he is a very busy little one - into everything and he will spend ages on his mat waving his arms and legs about pretending to run so yes I guess it could be muscle.
Noo your not a delusional mother and nor am I xxx We're just first time mommies and we occasionally think too much for our own good lol.

Adria - nice from hear from you too - reassures me that Im not the only one with a bab like William xx

Hope to talk to you again - if you use msn messenger at all I'm ennypen@hotmail.com if you fancy a chat.

Helen xx
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 25, 2005, 01:46:58 am
OKay question.
I have never done the dream feed and Jency has been going 5.5 hours with out eating at night.  Recently that has been touch and go.  I was trying to get him to go 6 hours and then every 3 so that he would only wake up once before DH had to go to work.  DH gets up at 5:30am to go to work and works 10 hour days outside doing construction.  I would like for him to get as much sleep as possible.  Now Jency is 4 months old (almost) and will be needing to go to a 4 hour EASY.  He doesn't nap good either and we have to battle that as well.  Should I battle the naps and attempt the 4 hour EASY and then try to get a dream feed in or should I try to add a dream feed and then tackle the rest.
He always wakes up at 7:30 no matter what, he goes to bed at 8:30 no matter what. 
I want to go 4 hours for feedings at 8am, 12pm, 4pm, and 8pm with cereal at 6pm.  any suggestions on what to do from this point?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 25, 2005, 11:36:09 am
We didn't START the dream feed until Luke was one day shy of turning three months old.  He just didn't take it before then.  You might try it and see what happens.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on October 25, 2005, 13:34:33 pm
I just want to say again, I love this website and thank you all for this great place to meet up with other moms.

adria:  I've never done a dream feed....  well, I tried to do it a few times, and he still woke a few hours early.  Generally he wakes twice at night to feed.... maybe around 1-2ish and again around 4 or 5.  I figure this is the same amount of times that I would have to wake up if I did do the dream feed.  I can't bear to set my alarm for 11 or 12 pm for a feed.

Seems like there are a lot of big babies out there.  Not just delusional mothers.  lol

Just wanted to share that my lo discovered his hands two nights ago.  DH had to leave the room as he was putting him down for the night because it was so funny to see Owen's little eyes crossed staring at his hands!  Now if only Owen could always find his thumb instead of sticking it up his nose, grabbing his eyes, etc, we would be laughing....

What fun!!

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 25, 2005, 14:34:13 pm
Wow your lo does the same thing Jency was doing.  Then he decided to wake at 11:00 anyway.  Last night DH put the pacifier in and patted him through 20 min of screaming.  Then he went to sleep and slept until 3am!
I'd rather get up at 2 or 3 then at 11 as well.  We go to bed at 9 because DH gets up at 5:30am and works 10 hours.  Jency insists on getting up at 7:30am now and sunday is the time change :cry: !! I don't know what I"m going to do.  He has been eating about 5:30 or 6:00am and then gets up at7:30am and I'm not sure if I should feed him again or wait until he gets hungry. :?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 25, 2005, 14:49:01 pm
Hi Adria- I think you should begin to transition to the four hour EASY routine and add a dreamfeed. The naps should fall into to place with a little work and with the transition. Whatever you do, try and be consistent. Jake transitioned pretty easy and now eats four times a day (7,11,3, and 7 pm) plus a dreamfeed at 11 pm. In the beginning we weren't consistent with the df and once we stayed with it, the night wakings stopped. I would love to drop the dreamfeed but he doesn't wake at all to eat and hasn't since about 10 weeks old. I figure only a few more months of the df and then we can get rid of it!

My husband also gets up at 5:30 am and works 10 hours construction too! If Jake does happen to wake in the middle of the night, my husband does not get up. I know he needs his sleep. But we do trade off the dreamfeed so some nights I can go to bed when Jake does!

How much does Jency eat during the day? It seems he is eating a lot at night. Have you tried to add more ounces to the daytime bottles (or are you bf?) If you add a df and move to the 4 hour EASY maybe he can begin to go all night. Like I said, Jake has not been fed at night since about 10 weeks old. I just decided he was getting enough during the day and was not waking because of hunger. Once we established the df, he stopped waking to eat. I know all babies can't go all night, but it is possible  :lol:
Title: New to this chat
Post by: DN on October 26, 2005, 13:02:48 pm
Good Morning,

I have been coming to this website for the past month, but didn't realize there was a "chat" for Mother's of babies born in June/July.  What a great idea:)

My son turned four months on October 18th.  He is on a four hour EASY schedule and naps pretty good during the day (1.5 - 2 hours).  We don't dream feed him - have tired many times - but this wakes him up.  We feed him at 3 - 5 - and 7:30 instead.  We did have him on Rice cereal but he got very constipated (even when he gets apple prune juice everyday).  He has a doctor's appt on Monday so I'm going to see what he suggests.  I have heard that Oat cereal is better as it is a natural laxative.  He's ready to eat it - he loves it!!

Some nights he will sleep through the night and others like last night he's up every hour or two.  He does use a soother - but he doesn't always want it.  I really don't think he's hungry - but I could be wrong.

Lately I am finding him a little more difficult to put down for his naps as well.  I used to be able to  place him in his crib and he was out.  Know it takes him a few minutes of complaining and I usually have to go back in a few times.

Other than that he's a adorable, happy little boy.  He's very active and is learning so much everyday.

I can't wait to take some time to read this whole thread - maybe when baby L is sleeping this afternoon:)

Take care,
dn
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 26, 2005, 21:43:15 pm
Hi all.  Popping over to see what has been going on.  Welcome to the newcomers, Dn, daisymelon.

Well Cait has figured out how to grab her binky, pull it out, and put it back in her mouth, but she hasn't learned that in order for it to STAY in her mouth, she has to LET GO of it.  Yes, needless to say, that is making for a very loud and frustrated little girl.  I think we are about to dump the rice cereal and go to oatmeal w/apples.  I think she will like that much more than the rice.  She has been waking the last two nights at 4 am. :roll:   Both nights, I had to feed her to get her back to sleep.  I dont' need that to become a habit.  Still need to switch her carseat out with the convertible  :oops: , yep.....still haven't done that....and she went to the dr two weeks ago.  what kind of mother am I????

In case you didnt see in the Lounge, we finally sold our property!!! woohoo!!!!  Now if we can just close and exchange money, I will be a very happy camper. 

How is everyone else?  Adria...what did you figure out with Jency?

Has anyone seen my digital camera????  Can't find it anywhere. :cry:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 26, 2005, 22:13:22 pm
Hey BJ, glad the property sold!

Luke had major melt-downs last night.  They were so bad that when I got home from the grocery store (I'd been gone less than 15 minutes) my hubby looked so frazzled I thought something horrible had happened.  I think it's his teeth.

On a happier note, the caretaker at daycare said that Luke did not spit up ONE SINGLE BIT today.  I am floored!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 26, 2005, 23:14:33 pm
Hi - just a quick note -

Caeden is doing great with his naps today - napping good lengths, 1+ hours each and without hardly a peep going down too!  :D  :D  :D
Hopefully this will help our night continue to be better...... still up 3 times last night, but better then every 2 hours. His 2nd tooth is just thru the gums now so hopefully it means things will get better. I have been reading Eliz. Pantley's No Cry Sleep Solution....anyone else read this or done it?

DH has been home this week - on the internet alot so I feel like I have been missing out around here...... oh well there is also 2AM to catch up! :D

Have a good evening or day wherever you are!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Joey'sMom on October 27, 2005, 00:36:42 am
Hey everyone, just jumping in to say hi.  Joey is adorable, we tried him in an exersaucer and he loved it!  He puts his arm over the side like he's cruisin' for chicks.  :wink:

Anyway, look at the new avatar!  Isn't he adorable??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on October 27, 2005, 03:32:02 am
Jennifer-  I read the No Cry Sleep Solution and found it to be very similiar to the baby whisperer's methods. We have tried most of her ideas and they work great. The only thing I remember reading that I thought was a little crazy is that a nap less than and hour is not considered a nap! Well, we have had plenty of days where 45 min. was all he would go down for  :) I defiantly consider those naps or atleast catnaps!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on October 27, 2005, 09:38:50 am
Hi, I found the babywhisperer website few weeks ago, but only now noticed there was a section for babies born June-July. Hope you don't mind me joining :)

I posted a message on the breastfeeding forum this morning, as we are desperate to do some changes. DD wakes up every 1-2 hours and we are really exhaused! Any advice is appreciated... hope some of you have suggestions since our babies are the same age!

I'll just copy my post below as I have no time to re-write it, DD is very fussy last two days (may be teething??) and moaning for attention at the moment. Thank you for reading!!
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Hi,

I am not sure if this is a sleep or feeding issue, I posted before regarding trying to put my 3.5 mo on 3 hour EASY and she wasn't happy.

She is now on 2.5 EASY (between 2 and 3 hrs), goes down for a nap on her own, all naps around an hour, sometimes streches the second morning (lunch one) to two hours. Takes good feeds. I also feed her at 5,6 and 7pm, goes to bed at 7.30 (usually very fussy at this time), and recently wakes up screaming again an hour -hour and a half later. So I feed her again.

The night sleep is seriously regressing Sad She used to wake up every 2-2.5 hours to feed, now she is up every hour. Don't think she is hungry, I think its more that she can't settle, and since we are really desperate for sleep I just feed her - she takes very little.

She also has a dummy addiction, she only falls asleep when she is swaddled and with dummy. But she is quite strong recently and gets out of her swaddle, and nothing will calm her down. I tried few nights ago not feeding her, it took 40 min of walking between me and DH, she was shaking with tears at the end and felt if she is going to choke... so I did feed her.

I really don't know where to start from!!! I am terrified of getting rid of the dummy as at least she naps during the day with it. Somebody on the other boards recomended the miracle blanket for swaddling, but she is too big for it.

Please, can anybody tell me I'm n ot alone and what can I do?

PS. I posted this under BF-ing discussion as I remember reading somewhere that sleep is closely linked with food in so small infants.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on October 27, 2005, 13:20:33 pm
Hello All.

Things here have been a bit tense the past 24 hours.  Owen seems to be able to break out of his swaddle and not want to sleep (by swaddle, I mean I just wrap him up like a tootsie roll as I cannot get the swaddle tight enough.  I will maybe have to try harder at the proper swaddle).  There was little sleep last night and he's still not doing well.  I was hoping the explanation would be teething, but I don't see a thing....  so I guess it's just a bad day for him, and consequently, us.

Hi Seaflower:  I'm not an expert, but by feeding every hour before your lo sleeps, maybe ds doesn't need such a cluster feeding.  I know I used to feed my lo every two hours or so, but I just decided it was time to stretch it (around 10 weeks).  He's a big boy and can handle going 3 hours.  It worked for us.  Maybe she wakes up every 1.5 hours cuz that's when she thinks she's supposed to feed....  that's all i can think of.  But I guess it also depends on her size.

Adria:  I would feed him when he wakes for the day.  That's what I do with Owen.  I figure we have a better chance of staying on schedule that way.  Some day they have to figure it out, don't they?  LOL

Hello DN and BJ! 

Hope today is better than last night!

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 27, 2005, 14:26:45 pm
Seaflower:  I'd try stretching his feedings.  Jency did the same thing a while back.  How old is your lo?  Now he only eats 2 times at night, around 1ish and 4/4:30ish.  But he still wakes up around 11, 3, and 6 and finally up for the day at 7:30.  I don't feed him the other times because I know he isn't hungry.  When the time changes I will not be feeding him at 1 either.  I know he can go until 3am (he did the other night, after waking at 11 and not getting fed).  I always feed him right before bed but not feed-to-sleep.  We are currently trying to do 3.5 hours.  He is not on EASY but he is on his own routine!  YES LADIES HE DID IT!!  It isn't EASY but it is a routine.  YAE!  After the time changes I will start trying to go to 4 hours. Which means he may be eating right before nap but oh well.  Your lo is so use to eating every 2 hours he isn't taking enough at a feeding to last any longer.  Once I held Jency off for 3.5 hours he started eating longer (most of the time).

Oh and Jency figured out how to roll his lips and now that's all he will do! :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 27, 2005, 14:37:42 pm
I would agree that longer between feeds may help. I know Caeden feeds better if it has been at least 3 hours though 4 is sometimes a stretch for him. Usually in the evenings he feeds around 5 and 7-7:30 or so. Kinda varies, sometimes he will just feed at 5 and wake again around 8:30-9 and I will feed him then instead of just before bed cause he doesn't feed well tired either.
Last night he went down at 7 and slept till 10, ate, slept till 1 and ate and slept till 5 and ate. I am getting ready to try the no-cry sleep solution cause I am really ready to drop a few night wakings. I am so exhausted in the mornings being up every couple hours.

BTW - when should we be dropping the late afternoon catnap? Caeden has refused to sleep then the last 2 days and he still went down good at 7, should I drop it? He is taking 3-4 other naps thru the day, anywhere from 45-1 1/2 hr long.

Okay - Caeden wants to say hi to all his friends out there - he has been trying to help me this whole time!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on October 27, 2005, 14:51:48 pm
Seaflower, I posted on the breastfeeding board. :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on October 27, 2005, 15:06:13 pm
I figure that late afternoon cat nap will be dropped when he can drop it.  Luke takes a nap from 4-5:30 and then goes down for the night at 7.  I'd love for him to skip that nap b/c we could do so much stuff with him during that time, but it ain't happenin any time soon.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on October 27, 2005, 15:26:24 pm
Thank you so much for replying!! I was so desperate this morning

The reason I havent started streching the feeds is that DD (3.5 mo) starts rubbing her eyes and yawning an hour after waking up, therefore I put her to sleep and she wakes up an hour later. If I strech the times it will be AEASYAEAS... Is that OK?? I tried streching the gap between the feed and going down for nap (fighting her yawns) but she was very upset. She is a good size baby (6.3kg at 3 months).

Also, how do you know if the baby is sleeping too much (therefore not tired enough) or is overstimulated? Are the any cues?

Thanks again, will introduce myself properly later when I get a chance to post again :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 27, 2005, 15:44:52 pm
Jodie - I know using a larger blanket to swaddle with helped us as well as double swaddling. I use a light blanket and then a heavier one - he seems to be able to stay in this better as well. It is also cool enough here now to use both blankets without overheating, Not sure where you are if that is an option for you!

BJ - Caeden also took his paci out and put it back in himself the other day, but hasn't done it since, so I guess it was just a fluke :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 27, 2005, 15:47:40 pm
Seaflower - I know for us it is often A between the E's...... cause he won't sleep long enough till the next feed. At this point I am really trying to stay between 3-4 hours between feeds and have at least 5-10 minutes after feeding before sleeping so he is not getting used to "nursing to sleep" - so far this has worked well for us and he is doing good - during the day anyway - nights are another struggle and story!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: DN on October 27, 2005, 18:40:05 pm
Hi everyone,

I just joined this chat a few days ago and was just taking a few minutes to read the last two pages - WOW I feel somewhat comforted that we are not the only parents up with night wakings.  Sometimes you feel as though you're all alone and doing something to horribly affect your baby. 

I'm thinking that he is teething (but can't see anything) and he is constipated.  This really bothers him.  For the past few days I have given him straight prune/appple juice but this has not helped him out.  We go to the dr's on Monday so maybe he'll have suggestions (although when we have talked before he suggested med's)  I would really rather that his little body learned to do it naturally.

Anyway, can write so much more - but little L just woke up.

Have a great day:)
DN
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 27, 2005, 21:19:23 pm
Caden'smommy:  Jency seems to be the same as caden when it comes to his routine.

Seaflower:  i gave up on trying EASY until he is 6 months and starts to have 3 meals and snacks and needs to have 2-2hour naps.  Right now he does AEASY.  He has for about a month or so.  He just came up with his own routine, which we both like, this last week.
He gets up at 7:30, dress and diaper, E at around 7:45/8, is awake for 2 hours then takes a 30 min nap, then E at around 11:15/11:30, then is awake for 2 hours again, sleeps for 2-3 hours, E at around 2:45/3, stays up for 2 hours, takes a 30-45 min nap, then we give him cereal at 6:00, nurse at the 3.5 hour mark, bath at 7:30, E at 8:00 and bed at 8:30.


We really like this so i don't know what we are going to do with the time change! :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on October 28, 2005, 01:01:02 am
It has been a long 24hrs and counting.  I'm not sure what's going on, but Owen fights going to sleep and he used to be so good at it.  Also, he is on a nursing strike.  He only nurses for 10 minutes or so and then looses interest.  He just starts smiling and won't go back on.  I think maybe I need to get him on a longer routine.  Maybe I will go straight for the 4 hour.  With the way it's going, I think that may be the answer.  If anyone has a suggestion, please let me know.

Seaflower:  Owen used to do the same, but eventually he slept right until he was meant to eat.  But I had to do AEAS at the beginning.

BJ:  I will try that.  Wish me luck, this swaddle thing baffles me.

Well, it's my turn trying to get him down.  Hope you all have a good night.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 30, 2005, 01:41:12 am
Jency just keeps crying as if in pain off and on all day long. He used to do this once of twice a month but now it's been for 3 days!

IT is usually when he has gas and is trying to pass some gas or trying to have BM, some times he burps with it. The only thing that seems to even sort of calm him is bouncing on the bouncy ball and giving him the paci and pat his back. Even this doesn't stop the crying though, just makes it less intense.

Any ideas on what it might be. We have Dr. App on Monday. WHat should I say to him and what should I be looking for to describe to him so that he will do something about it. My last Ped said it was colic!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on October 30, 2005, 02:14:24 am
How long ago did Jency eat?  Could it be reflux?  Do you have any Milicon drops to give?  Could he be overtired?  Cait will sometimes pass her sleep window and just go nuts with the crying until she gets it out of her system.  It's like she is preaching to us not to miss her window or else with all her crying.  I was always under the impression that after 12 weeks, colic is usually gone......so you might want to look into that.  Have you had a day that went of the normal schedule?  Did naps get taken? 

Sadly enough, at this point it is so hard to pinpoint ONE particular thing that can set them off.  Good luck at the appt on Monday.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on October 30, 2005, 09:41:55 am
Hi, thought I'll update you on our progress :D

I managed to get DD to feed every 4 hours the first night, had to do sh/p twice.  Last night she took a DF at 10:30 and woke up 2.5 hours later so again, had to do sh/p for 40 mins - she stopped crying after 10 mins btu took another 30 to get her to sleep. I was ready to give up since thought I'm unnecceserilly torchuring her and she is 'due' a feed soon anyway... but she did fall asleep and didn't wake up until 5am :D

Just wanted to say thank you so much for all the tips...

Also wondering - should I aim to feed her every 4 hours tonight or should I aim for 7 hours (since she did it last night)?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 30, 2005, 20:51:47 pm
Hi all!
Just a boring Sunday afternoon here - Caeden is napping at the moment and I don't feel like doing anything, although there is plenty that needs done! And DH is working for a friend on his office. It's coudy and rainy this afternoon. What I would really like is a nap, but I know if I do then Caeden will only sleep for 45 minutes and I won't get enough of a nap, for me 20 minutes is worse then no nap. Besides - there are 3 loads of laundry on the bed......

On a good note - Caeden slept a 5 1/2 hour strech last night  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D and then he did a 3 hour strech! Last 3 nights he has only been up 2 times a night! Oh yeah! I am so glad he is getting back into a routine.

Anyone else's LO seem to be an early riser? Caeden seems to wake for the day by 6:30, sometimes closer to 6. Then he wants another nap within a hour and a half. Is this normal or should I be trying to put him back down?
The last week or so I haven't cause DH will get up with him and play with him and let me sleep for another hour or maybe a little more! So - I have been letting him stay up and then nap when I get up. What do you all think?

Seaflower - I would say - let her sleep as long as she can, don't wake to feed. If she wakes and it has been 4 or more hours then feed her, but otherwise let her sleep. That is what I have been doing with Caeden anyway.

Adria - Could Jency be teething? They can sometimes work on teeth for weeks before they actually come thru. Is it fussy all the time or does it come and go? Sometimes teething will cause more pain when they feed too.
Are you breastfeeding? If gas is the issue - have you tried cutting anything out of your diet?

Claire - how are you doing? Haven't seen a post from you in awhile!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on October 30, 2005, 21:11:13 pm
Quote from: CaedensMama
Claire - how are you doing? Haven't seen a post from you in awhile!

Ugh, well its all gone a bit wrong here :cry: I am having a  of a time with post-natal depression :cry:  Have been feeling rough for a few weeks, but it got worse this last 2 weeks an i am just not coping. I just feel so sorry for my poor children, they are such happy, lovely children and i am not being the mother that they deserve right now - hence the decision to go on some meds to get it all under control, i hope. But of course the meds make you feel like  for a while until they make you feel better, so i am having to deal with a stonking headache everyday and nausea as well as feeling depressed and anxious and panicky all the time - fun!!!

Red is doing a lot better though, the zantac has kicked in and he is doing well, sleeping through the night again and feeding is going a bit better too. He just cannot cope when we go out of the house, if we are out longer than his still limited awake time then he will not sleep, he hates sleeping outside of the cot - he is too well trained!!!

Hope you are all well x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 31, 2005, 01:47:31 am
Jency was up every hour last night and finally this morning he had a BM.  He has been pretty happy since then until about 5:30pm.  Then he had a hard time.  I gave him the paci and he calmed down.  I have no idea whats going on.  When they teeth do they seem to want their pacifier more?  Just wondering.
I have made the mistake of giving him the pacifier when he wakes at night and I think that is part of the reason he wakes up so much.  He doesn't  get it when he goes down at the beginning of the night but he does if he wakes up during the night.  Should I try not to give it to him at once waking and see if he can get pat that waking and then go from there?  It seems like if I don't give it to him he tries to roll himself over and then he really wakes up.
I don't know what to do...but I NEED SLEEP!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on October 31, 2005, 02:04:34 am
Adria - I hear you about needing sleep! I was in the same boat for about 2 weeks while Caeden teethed and was up every 2 hours on average. It made for long nights!

Caeden did seem to like his paci while teething, I think he liked "chewing" on it. I also got him a couple teething rings and he loved those.
Not sure what to tell you about the paci at night cause I still give it to Caeden - don't know if this is good or bad but it is where we are right now. If you feel like you can get him to go back to sleep without it without too much trouble I would try not giving it to him, but at this point some sleep is needed for you so if the paci will give him a couple more hours it may be worth it. Hard to say.
Are you nursing or feeding at all when he wakes at night? Breast or bottle?

As for the fussy and then BM - it sounds like he may be having trouble there - maybe talk to the dr tomorrow and see what they say.
I know I asked you this already but if you are breastfeeding there could be a possibility of some allergic reaction to something you are eating. Dairy would be my first guess, but soy or wheat would be possibilites too. I know several ladies that were on very restricted diets while BF because of reactions their LO had to foods they were eating. Spicy foods? Just a thought of something else that could be causing him digestive issues.

If you are bottle feeding - could it be his formula? Maybe talk to your dr about switching him to something different.

Gee - maybe we should talk during the 2 AM hours when we are both up anyway!  :D  :D  I often get on here while feeding Caeden.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: DN on October 31, 2005, 13:11:07 pm
Good Morning,

Just thought I would let you know what is happening with us regarding the "paci".  For the past two weeks my four month old was waking up every hour or every two hours.  We would go in and give him his paci and he would calm down - but once it came out of his mouth he was back up.  We only gave it to him at nap and bed time and the last week he really didn't want it to go to sleep.

Anyway my husband get's up with our little one on Friday and Saturday nights.  On Friday night at 1:30 our little one started to cry - my husband put it in his mouth and he calmed down for 10 minutes and then it fell out and he started to cry again.  We decided to try to let him figure out how to soothe himself to sleep.  It took one hour - we took turns going him reassuring him telling him he was ok (we didn't do the pu/pd - don't think it would work with him).  At 2:30 he fell asleep and we didn't hear from him until 7:00.

For his naps the next day - same thing we let him figure it out without the paci while going in every few minutes to reassure him.  Morning nap it took 10 minutes (slept for 2 hours) and the afternoon nap it took 20 (slept for 2 hours).  He usually has a hard time with his afternoon nap - but we didn't hear a peep from him.

Saturday night he cried for 10 minutes at 2:00and slept till 7:00 and Sunday he did great with his naps.

Last night he cried for 20 minutes - and soothed himself back to sleep.

So - (sorry for rambling) I think our little one was totally confused about why we were sticking the paci in his mouth - when really he was trying to figure it out on his own.

It's only been a couple days - and I have learned from experience that things can change FAST - but so far so good:)

Have a great day!
DN
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on October 31, 2005, 14:41:59 pm
DN: You have given me hope!  Hope it keeps up for you!

Caedensmama:  Thanks for the info.

We never give him the paci to go to sleep at the beginning of the night but we do during the night.  The other night we let him cry at 11:30 waking and heslept until 3am!  It was great would work great for our routine as well and the 4 hour feedings we aer going to.  But ever since then we ha ve still been letting him cry at 11/11:30 and he still wakes up at 1/1:30.  I feed him at that point and then he is back down until 3am and then we usually give him the paci.  then he is upa t 4/4:30 and I feed him and then around 6ish he starts to stir so I give him the paci and then he is up at 7am and I feed him at around 7:15. I am trying to go to 4 hour feedings so I would love it if he just went from 8pm-3am and then woke at 7am.  It would be perfect.  Except I'm not sure what to do at night with dinner and stuff since we started solids.  That means he would eat at 3pm then have dinner at 6pm and then nurse at 7pm and then again at 8pm.  What would you do about this?  Nurse at 6:30 after dinner? or hold him off until 8pm since he got solids at 6pm?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 01, 2005, 17:54:44 pm
Claire:  Big hugs to you!!!  Happy to hear you have found the help that you needed.  Things can only get better.... hang in there.  Your children couldn't have a better mama, you are doing what you need to do to be the best mom.

Things here have been up and down.  The sleep problem kind of corrected itself.  Owen basically put himself on 4hour EASY and since then he has been sleeping much better....  Maybe he was getting too much sleep during the day?..  still not sure. 

It's funny, everyone seems to be trying to ween their baby of their pacis and I'm still trying to get my lo to take one.  LOL.  After reading these posts, forget it.  I don't think I'll use it unless it's to tide him over at night until the next feeding... he just always spits the darn thing out.  I was hoping he'd find his thumb by now, but it's been a long time coming.  He just keeps sticking it so far down his throat he gags.  But I think he's catching on. 

Hope everyone is doing well.  Thanks for keeping us updated on how things are going, reminding us all that we're not alone.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 01, 2005, 23:26:29 pm
Oh my goodness, I have missed you girls!

Things have been crazy over here.  Luke was baptized this weekend and since none of our family lives here, I had to get ready for 20 people.  Thank goodness only two stayed at our house :-)

First, Clair, biiiiiiiiiiiiiig hugs to you.  I understand the struggle with getting on anti-depressants.  I was on them for 4 years and that was my biggest "fear" if you can call it that.  I didn't want to get back on them, but I also knew that if I needed them, I needed them.  It's like heart medicine or blood pressure medicine or insulin for diabetics.  IF you need it, you need it, and it's not necessarily forever.  Tom Cruise can go suck my big toe...depression is a real thing and meds help!!!  Many hugs to you!

I forgot who asked this, but my son wakes up at 6 or 6:30 and has a nap around 8:30.  It's definitely needed too!  I wish he'd sleep later, but we have to leave at 7:30 anyway, so this gives us the chance to get him up, fed and dressed too.

Well, he's crying, so I must go get him up.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 02, 2005, 01:44:47 am
So, if they are sucking so hard on their bottle that it is inverting, do ya think it's time to switch to the faster flow nipple?  IT's taking him forever to get his bottle down and he is working so hard!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 02, 2005, 10:20:18 am
hi ive only just found this thread...have just read the last couple of pages and its usefull to hear what other mums whos babies are toms age are going through.... i guess i thought it woul get easyer by this age, but in many ways its got harder (ive also been suffering mild depression for the past month ...im fighting it ...but thought most people suffered from it early on... i was fine first 3 months!!)

Anyway tom crying ... just 45 mins again ahhhhhhhhhh

bye
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: joannec on November 02, 2005, 11:27:50 am
Hi all, I too just discovered this chat thread tonight and recognise a few of you from the other forum topics. Great to find others with bubs around the same age. I'd like to congratulate Red's mum on recognising PND and sorting it, there's no need to suffer in silence and you are a great mum for overcoming your concerns about meds etc and giving it a go for yourself and your bubs :) Have got DS on pretty much 3 hour EASY but am looking out for the GS I'm sure is lurking - he just started doing the fuss at feeding again. Last time he did this was the 6-8week GS. I might try stretching him to 3.5 if he can tolerate it. He sleeps from 7pm to 3-4am so should be OK.  Will check in again soon
Cheers, Jo
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: joannec on November 02, 2005, 11:31:49 am
P.S. Alison, remember the prolactin starts dropping off at 3 months, if you're BFing. Say bye bye to one of nature's antidepressant acting hormones. No fair is it. I've been feeling a bit the same :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 02, 2005, 12:40:13 pm
thanx! :)  have suffered depression in past, so im really scared of going back there, am going to get some help, but good to know that hormones drop at this stage, and it doesnt necc mean ill end up really depressed!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 02, 2005, 15:11:50 pm
OKay so Jency got his 4 month shots.  yuck.
He has stopped waking at 3:30am forthe last 2 nights.  He has also been sleepng longer (sorta).  Yesturday he slept from 8pm-11:30-1am-5am-7:45am.  I only had to go in at 7:00am and stick the pacifier in.  Last night he did this 8pm-11:30-1:30am-4am-and then it was every 30 min he would start to wimper and cry.  I thought maybe he had a air bubble but I was afraid if I picked him up he would wake up more so I just kept patting him all morning.  finally at 7:15 I said forget it.  I want him to sleep until 7:30 so I might as well jsut get him up.  So I picked him up and hewas still asleep.  I held him until 7:30 and then laid him back down then he slept until 7:50.  I hope tonight is a combination of both of them.
What I want is (we are on a 3.5 feeding)  bed at 8:30pm-1am-4:30am-7:30am or later.  He still hasn't eaten today and doesn't seem hungry so maybe we will be going to 4 hours here soon.  I would like to get the 11:30 waking out of the way and get him sleeping good until 7:30am (with the 2 feedings) and taking 2 good naps before going to 4 hours and then we will try to cut out the 1:00am feeding.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 02, 2005, 15:23:17 pm
POLL:

Does your lo:

*sleep tummy and roll tummy to back 1st

*sleep tummy and roll back to tummy

*sleep back and roll tummy to back

*sleep back and roll back to tummy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 02, 2005, 15:55:34 pm
Adria -
Caeden rolled back to front at 3 months and has yet to roll front to back.
He sleeps on his back - really doesn't like tummy at all.
We are still swaddling so he doesn't move much at night - ie rolling, etc.

I too am trying to keep the night feeds 3-4 hours apart, although I will remind you that if he sleeps thru one don't worry about it! My ped says he can go at least 8 hours w/o feeding so I am trying to only feed if it has been longer then 3 hours since that last feed.

I have a million things to do today so I gotta run -
Have a great day everyone!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 02, 2005, 16:09:55 pm
just had to post real quick:

Cait sleeps back and Never rolls.......you know, it hard to be a bump on a log and do physical stuff with all of that weight holding you  back.

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 02, 2005, 16:31:31 pm
BJ- I hear ya! I think Jake weighs about the same as Cait and he doesn't roll much either. About every three days or so he does it once but otherwise he just lays there like a bump on a log too! He sleeps on his back and only once has he turned on to his stomach and screamed bloody murder until we flipped him back over and re-swaddled!

Jake goes from his dreamfeed around 11 pm until his morning bottle between 7 and 7:30 p.m. He seems okay missing a feed.

Did anyone dress up their little ones for Halloween? Jake was a turtle! We just went trick-or-treating to the neighbors, but it was fun to dress him up!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 02, 2005, 18:10:53 pm
Hey, I am going to post a now post on the forum.  PLEASE RESPOND!

I want to get a list of everyone in the June/July 05 post. 

So please respond to this new post! 

Thank you :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 02, 2005, 18:22:32 pm
howdy
bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 02, 2005, 20:46:38 pm
Sleeping:  Always on back... only has rolled fr front to back a few times during tummy time.

Depression:  I too am beginning to feel like I'm on a huge down.  I was on anti depressants when I became pregnant for anxiety.  I was hoping the anxiety wouldn't come back after I didnt have any through the pregnancy.  It does however seem to be returning.  It must be around the 3 month mark...  strange.  Still haven't decided if I'm goign back on them... my Dr. wrote me a prescription if I want to get them.  (funny with anxiety that having the paper does help a little)

Dreams:  On another note, in the past three nights, I had 2 dreams about my period returning.... wonder if that means it will happen soon.

DS: Doing great, down to only 6 feeds a day.  Hope it's enough (posted on the bfing board)

Nice to hear all your stories.  Thanks for keeping us company!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 02, 2005, 23:17:51 pm
Luke gets to his tummy as fast as he can and he rolls all over the place!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 03, 2005, 02:19:22 am
Well, she may not roll over yet, but we got our first TOOTH!!!!  Bottom right, broke through today.  Found it by accident, and man, does she chew on everything she can get her hands on!!!  wooohooo!!!!



bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 03, 2005, 15:26:46 pm
Yae Cait!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 03, 2005, 15:56:50 pm
Hi ladies!

Happy to report that Daniella is successfully on 3-3.5 EASY (with variations ;)). Still working on the naps, but last few nights she did 4-7 hours streches, which was fantastic!! Thank you so much for all the advice and help! Today for firsst time in ages managed to shower AND cook dinner :lol:  :lol: 

Trying to catch up with all the posts here...

BJ, well done on the tooth!! I keep checking DD's gums buut nothing there yet. But she is so happy when she manages to stuff her fists in her mouth :)

She can't roll over either, but is on the way... kind of rolls half to the side. Managed to pull few of the toys hanging on the gym and was so surprised. Wow, I can stare at her all day long!

Re sleeping- she sleeps on her back, swaddled. Trying to leave one arm out now and again, but still wakes up.

As for dreams,  I started dreamign alot recently (haven't for the last few months!) and have this obssesive dream I am pregnant  :shock: May be because AF still hasn't returned. It's kind of impossible though...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 03, 2005, 16:37:09 pm
I was just thinking of buying Tracy's first book - do I need it considering I have the second one? Are they very similar?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 03, 2005, 16:51:36 pm
Hi Seaflower- Tracy's first book is great but I think the second book is the most helpful. She does talk a little bit more about the different personality types and observing your baby in her first one but it is mainly an overview of the EASY routine which the second book goes into great details about. A lot of what she talks about in the first book seems to apply more to newborns and not to our big babies who are either on the 4- hour EASY or close to it :) I think you are well on your way to becoming a baby whisperer if you'd read the second book  :lol:

Hope that helps!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 03, 2005, 18:55:44 pm
Hi all!

Have a few minutes before Caeden will wake from his nap. Had a hard time getting him down this morning and then we ended up having to go pick up DH - dropped his truck off for repairs - so he ended up sleeping in the car and fell asleep again on the way home and is still sleeping!

Caeden is now moving around on his mattress.... yes - just the matress. DH still hasn't built a crib :roll:  :roll:  :cry:  :x
But up till last night when I would swaddle Caeden he would stay put and wrapped all night. Last night when I put him down I heard him crying about 20 minutes later. I went in thinking he needed his paci and found him unwrapped, turn sideways with feet off the mattress. Turned him and rewrapped him and this time he fell asleep kinda sideways on his side. Found him in several other odd positions thru the night including entire body on the floor and his head on the mattress! Then this morning when I put him down for his nap he ended up on the floor twice. I think we need a crib TODAY!

I can't figure out though how to "insist" without offending DH. He really wants to make the crib, has the wood just hasn't had the time - and won't start it AT LEAST till December. Who know when it will be done. I told him last night I thought we ought to go get a cheap WalMart crib till he gets one made and then switch them. He wants to make a plywood box to put the mattress in...... :?  I don't like the idea of him being closed in on all sides like that and would really like a crib NOW. I think I have been pretty patient here waiting. Caeden has been on floor on his mattress for about 6 weeks now and I am getting tired of not having him in a "normal" bed. I am also concerned I am going to all this work to get him to go to sleep and back to sleep and sleep all night and I am afraid that when I move him to a crib I will have to start all over. So - I really want to get him into a crib now. I feel like late Dec would be the earliest it would be done and I don't want to wait anymore!
Any advice here? Or suggestions? I am open to anything!

Congrats to Cait on the tooth! Now Caeden has a "biting buddy" - anyone else with teeth yet?

Seaflower - I noticed from the other thread you are in Ireland..... what area are you in? My DH's parents are living in Co. Offaly, thought they are thinking of moving back to the States within the year. They are both Irish by birth and raised over there, they came to the US and raised their family and moved back when FIL retired about 15 years ago but they are now realizing they really miss watching the grandkids grow up and spending time with their sons, so they are moving back.

Well, I cannot believe Caeden is still asleep - maybe I ought to go lay down too - of course then he will wake up!  :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 03, 2005, 18:59:37 pm
Do you have a Pack 'n Play?  Put him in that!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 03, 2005, 19:17:43 pm
We do - at the moment it is at our new house so I have something out there and I was kinda hating to bring it back and forth..... maybe I should though.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 03, 2005, 20:10:31 pm
They're so easy to set up and transport!  It would certainly be worth it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 03, 2005, 20:37:49 pm
I'll give it a try tonight!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 04, 2005, 15:06:17 pm
That is where Jency sleeps.  In the pack n' play.  But we need to get a crib here soom because he is outgrowing the thing.  He like to turn and be the short way and then he gets stuck and mad.

He is now turning over IN the positioner.  I tried putting a positioner around him so that he can't roll over and it worked...until last night.  Twice he rolled over while in it..no not taking it with him but rolling in it.

He had 2 good nights where he didn't wake up at 3:30.  Slept from 1am feeding to 4am feeding! :D   but last night it was back and we are STILL dealing with the 11:30 waking.  I don't know what to do.  He doesn't go down good still either.  We have been battling with these for a month now!  I'm beginning to think that Tracy has no idea what she is talking about!!  I have to get up at 3:30am because of all this.

He goes down at 8pm.  Wakes at 11/11:30, wakes at 1 to eat, wakes at 3:30, wakes at 4:00 to eat, wake at 5:30, 6:30, and up at 7:30!!

I am so worn out and I hate everything and everyone right now!!!

Sorry venting!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 04, 2005, 15:58:19 pm
Can't write Adria, but wanted to send big hugs... I'm there too - very frustrated at the moment. Caeden was up 4 times and then dh got up with him at 5:30.....hang in there girl - it will get better!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 04, 2005, 16:46:14 pm
Hi Adria,
    I am so sorry you are frustrated. Tracy's methods are not going to work perfect for every baby and every situation but I don't think this is the place to talk down about her, after all she cannot defend herself. Tracy did a wonderful thing in her life and helped millions of babies and tired parents figure it out. It has worked wonders for our family, I am so glad that I found her book. As a first time mom, I found all the information on parenting overwhelming but her approach makes sense and creates a predictable day. Not all of her methods are going to work and there are certaintly bumps along the way, but the best thing we can do is give them a try and be consistent with what we are doing.

You posted a while back about transitioning Jency to the 4-hour EASY and working on naps. I believe that if you get him on a good routine the naps will begin to work themselves out and in turn help with the nightime sleep. Do you do a dreamfeed? By doing one, you control when he eats and he is not waking in the middle of the night hungry. It didn't work for us in the beginning but we stuck with it and now it's working great. You mentioned he does not go down well. What does your bedtime routine look like?

Hang in there, it will pass. Check out the sleep board, there is wonderful information on there. If Tracy's methods are not working for you that is okay, try something else. Whatever you do, be consistent with it for atleast a week, it takes awhile for our little one's to figure it out!

Big hugs  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 05, 2005, 08:48:58 am
Jennifer, DH is Irish (his mom is from the North and his dad is from NY, but he was raised here) so we live in Dublin. I've been here myself for 7 years (wow, just realised it is exactly 7 in three days!)... I love Ireland, most foreigners find it hard to settle here but I always loved it! :D

*Adria's1st*, love the photos :) DD was also wakig up every hour last night, after sleeping so well last few days. She didn't nap much yesterday and think she was overtired... Nevertheless, woke up at 7 fresh as a button! It's now almost 9am, she is down for a nap and I can barely function... Hope today is a better day, think may start slowly transitioning her to 4 hour EASY, she seems to have no problems going for 3-3.5 hours now.

Btw, what is 'pack n' play'??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 05, 2005, 08:52:12 am
I was going to say - last few times I've put her down for a nap at the first yawn, even if it is 40 mins after she woke up. She seems to fall asleep on her own in the cot, compared to 30 mins of crying and sh/p...  :shock:

What do you make of that?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 06, 2005, 14:03:00 pm
I have read both of Tracy's books and found the second one the most useful.  The first one I find is good for determining your little ones type.  I originally thought he was textbook/spirited, but according to the quiz, he's Angel.  Maybe you could go to the library and just do the quiz in the book?  I asked on the forum before and apparently there is none online yet, but they are working on it.

Caeden's mom:  I would definately insist on a crib... especially now that your little one is rolling over.  I would think it scary if he didn't have the walls around him.....  Also, it may be hard to transfer him into a crib if you wait too long because he may be afraid of it if he's never been in one before.  Could you borrow a friend's until December maybe?  Or even a playpen may work. 

Seaflower:  I think it's great that your lo went straight down for a nap.  Even though it's not following the "rules" of EASY, you are reading lo's clues.... which is most important.  Keep it up!!!!  It sure beats the half hour struggle that you had to endure before.  You are making great Y time.

Adria:  Not sure if this would work, but why not feed lo when they wake at 3:30 rather than putting it off until 4am?  It may be worth a shot.  At least that way you may get some sleep.

Also, my lo started rolling!!!  He also rolls in the positioner, but two nights ago he got his foot caught in the slats of the crib... so it's either the positioner or listen to him screaming out in pain!!! 

When they start rolling, is that all they normally do?  Owen keeps rolling over onto his tummy and not rolling back...  he then gets frustrated and we have to go put him back on his back.  LOL...  just when you think you got it all figured out....  they throw something new into the mix.

Enjoy your Sunday, I know I will!!!!

Hugs to you all,

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 06, 2005, 14:12:32 pm
Happy Sunday everyone!


Adria, Have you tried the pack and play yet?  I agree that you MUST have a crib at this point.  Your baby will be much safer and you will have peace of mind knowing that he's in a proper sleeping device.

Let me just say that we are a biiiiiiiiiig drool factory here!  I wish that little tooth would go ahead and break through.  Poor guy is soaked all the time, and is quite fussy.  Part of that might be from his cold that he is coming off of, but he's much fussier now at the end of it than he was earlier on.  This cold has been so sad.  His cry is so hoarse and he can barely make a sound.  It is better today, but the fussiness is getting worse.   It seems the only thing that makes him happy is to be left alone in his crib.  Well, that's no fun for anyone, but if it makes HIM happy, I'll do it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 06, 2005, 14:52:41 pm
Hi all!!

Poor Luke!! Sending you {{{{{{{{{{{{{breakthrough}}}}}}}}}}}}} vibes!!!!  I am expecting Cait's second just any day now.  Don't know if it is actually there, but my mom says it is.  We will see.

Caeden's Mom: Yes, I am afraid I would INSIST that a crib/pack n play be obtained.  IMMEDIATELY.  Of course, I am anal to a certain degree.  :oops: With Cait, the crib is more of a protective shield around her from Ryan.  He used to Caitnap her out of her bassinnette and haul her to his room when she was just weeks old. Talk about giving me and dh a scare!!!  And he did it twice. The third attempt was caught in the act of. :wink:

Seaflower, a pack n play is  a compactible mobile play yard.  They are one of the greatest inventions of modern day baby's!!  It is a rectangular shape that resembles a crib, but is low to the ground and when you are ready to leave to go home, it collapses and folds up for easy toting around.   Much better than the 1970 model that wouldn't fit in most cars.  You would practically need a SUV to have one of those. :lol:   I actually remember my sister's playpen...what a monster.  :roll:

Adria, sounds as though your lo is just on the cusp of getting it all worked out.  I know that sounds stupid, but it seemed that with Cait, the crazier her night hours got, the sooner they stopped.  Does that make sense?  It is as if they are crawling up a mountain and the closer the top they get, the more hurried and frantic they get and then when they crest the peak, it is (literally) all down hill from there.  I used to get Cait fed around 6-7 pm and then down to bed for the night.  But before I went to bed for the night, I would go ahead and dreamfeed her.  That would definitely prolong the sleep time for her and I could grab 4-5 hours before she got up again.  I only did that for a little bit though.  Our homelife schedule wasn't routine enough to ensure a dreamfeed every night.  I will say that I DID do a dreamfeed last night (at 5 months old :roll: ) but that is because I was not home with her last night to feed her oatmeal.  I knew that without that, she would be up at 4-5am and that is just too freakin' early on a Sunday, so I feed her at like 10:45 pm and she slept till 7:30 ish.  Makes for a much happier/likable mommy.  :wink:

Oh her highness is ready for nap.  Have a great day everyone.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 06, 2005, 16:43:08 pm
Ok, I am basically going to just repeat my last post, but I need to vent and hubby is out of town.  FINALLY Luke is asleep.  My Angel Baby has turned into something else!  He fusses when he's held, he fusses in his swing, he had a FIT when I put him in his high chair to give him his cereal and fruit this morning, he got mad in his crib b/c the paci kept falling out, he didn't want to rock, he didn't want to lay on the floor.  WHAT'S A MAMA TO DO???  I finally just put him in his crib and walked away.  I know that part of it is that he's tired and sleepy, and his teeth hurt, and his nose is stopped up and runny, but I can only give him so much medicine.  It seems that the Tylenol is the only thing that takes the edge off of the teething thing.  Poor guy is gnawing on his hand non-stop.

Sorry for venting.  I just am a little bit frustrated with this identity crisis my son seems to be having!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 06, 2005, 17:32:08 pm
I went through that night before last.  NOTHING made her happy.  I eventually resorted to holding her in the "drink a bottle" position (her, not me  :wink: ) and when that ed her off, I held her in the burp position until she hated that.   When she was tired of that, I went back to the first position.  It is incredibly frustrating when you dont know what exactly is frustrating them.  Good news is that this should only last a short while.  Cait has her moments too, so don't feel as though you are alone.

Does he have  a particular teether that he likes?  Maybe once he is down for nap, you could pop it in the fridge and get cold until he needs it?   I almost bought Cait one of those vibrating kind....but I put it back.  It looked to thick to put in her mouth. :roll:

Where is Dh?  Did I miss that post?  Or am I just being nosy?  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 06, 2005, 17:34:22 pm
OH btw...has anyone else noticed if their lo has started paying attention to the TV? 

Ry watches cartoons (Blue, Dora, Diego, Oobi) and Cait will stop what she is doing and just watch.  Kinda scary.......LOL.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 06, 2005, 17:46:46 pm
Hubby is at his cousin's wedding and should be home this afternoon.  I am ready!!

The thing with the teethers is that he can't figure out that he can hold them AND put them in his mouth.  The multi-tasking is too much for him.  He had it in his hand earlier and was chewing on his other hand.  Looking back on it, it's funny, but it sure wasn't funny earlier when I was trying to make him happy.  Now he's up from his nap, he's had his fruit and cereal and is watching the Food Network.  I guess he likes all the colors.  He loves to watch Baby Einstein videos, too.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 06, 2005, 19:10:09 pm
Sorry for the record number of posts today, but, hey...I'm alone and bored!

Ok.  Two hours have passed, and it seems that my Angel Baby is back.  YEA!  He had his bottle, fruit and cereal, and "alone time" in his chair watching the Food Network.  Then I decided that we needed to play with some toys.  The kid has a million toys and hasn't a clue what to do with any of them!  Anyway, I found four little teethers that are PERFECT for an almost-five-month-old hand :shock:  and he went to TOWN.  We played in his bedroom floor for almost an hour!  Then, just like clockwork, it had been two hours, so I put him in his bed, gave him his paci and he was out.  I feel guilty for complaining earlier!

Has anyone noticed if their baby has a preference as to which hand to use yet?  I think Luke is going to be a lefty.  He reaches for everything with his left hand.  It's interesting. 

Here's a new pic.  I love his sweet baby face!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 06, 2005, 20:29:25 pm
I think ALL babies are left handed to begin with....it is part of brain development that they switch to right handedness.  We went through this with Ryan and have noticed the same thing with Cait.  Of course...this is just my theory.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 08, 2005, 08:56:41 am
Hope all babies and moms are fine!

Amystoker, the photo is lovely!:)

DD doesn't know how to put things in her mouth either, she only conciously managed to suck on her fist last few weeks... As for TV, she loves it too, but I'm tryign to keep her away from it. It's only when I really need a break I'd put a program on and sit with her watching it. Happens once a week, so not that bad i guess.

Daisymelan, can't believe Owen is rolling already! Well done, Daniella is still trying to figure it out. She loves her tummy time now (used to hate it few weeks ago!) so somtimes I just keep her across my legs so she has a different view of the world.

I desperately need some advice re. her sleep - she was doign so well, good (at least) 4-hour streches during the night, and now she is up again every hour! It is so hard to resist feeding her to sleep, especially when you are sleep deprived. I feel as all the effort I put so far was wasted!!! :(    She comes out of her swaddle and cries, and refuses to be swaddled, and yet that is the only way she can calm down!

Could it be teething (she is def teething, but could it be ONLY during the night)? Or a growth spirt - she ate for ages last evening (10:30 DF)? Any ideas???
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 08, 2005, 15:06:34 pm
Sorry I haven't been on for awhile.  I am so behind!

Jency won't watch any of the baby videos when I need a break but he loves to watch Bull Riding with Daddy.  And somethiens he likes hunting shows and every once in a while fishing.  He is a boy after his daddys heart.

Jency has been waking up every 1.5-2 hours again too.  Most of the time he has rolled himself over and that makes him mad.  Ug!!

I've heard that can have sleep problems when they are going through a developmental milestone.  Maybe our babies are learning something new.
OOOOO!!  Maybe Jency will be learning how to roll the other way now!!  I can only pray.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 08, 2005, 15:22:39 pm
Quote from: *Adria's1st*
Maybe Jency will be learning how to roll the other way now!!  I can only pray.

That's wishful thinking :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I took Daniella to the shops this morning and she didn't sleep, so now is compensating and has been asleep for ages. I can't believe I have to go and wake her up now as she hasn't eaten in 4.5 hours and will probably be up all night hungry.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 09, 2005, 22:48:15 pm
It's an exciting time in our forum here.....  teething and rolling.. plus solids for some.  Wowie!!!

Owen loves staring at the TV... doesn't matter what's on.  And also he likes the flames in fire places.

Do any of your babies chuckle?  I can get Owen giggling when i vibrate my fingers under his chin (you know when you try to make their voices sound funny?)  Anyway, it absolutely melts my heart. 

Owen still hasn't figured out how to roll the other way... and I'm not banking that it will be anytime soon.  I have taken to putting a pillow under the blanket (on the floor) beside him so he can't roll... he only rolls to the left.  I feel like a bad mama, but it's annoying for both of us cuz he hates tummy time and throws up if he's on it for too long.

I think someone wrote that their lo rolls and wakes up.  We have to roll up a couple receiving blanets and tuck them tight up against ds.  We have a positioner, but it doesn't seem to work as well as the receiving blankets. 

Also, I don't think it's always them rolling over at night that makes them fussy (or whatever milestone it may be) I just think that they are tired or cranky from trying something new. IMHO  Just how we would be if we started a new job or something.

My posts are alwasy soooo long...  I'm sorry... long winded I guess.

Hugs to all the fine mamas out there.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 09, 2005, 22:52:46 pm
I was just about to come on post that I hadn't heard from you guys in a while.

Cait still isnt' rolling over, but she is making some progress.  During the night she will stick her fingers in her mouth and roll onto her side and soothe herself back to sleep.  So, we are 25% the way there.  :wink:

Had to take her to the dr the other day for a slight fever, but nothing worth doing anything about, and the dr said her second tooth is ready to come through.  I swear, I think SHE thinks she is getting a turkey leg at TD dinner.  Boy is she wrong!!!  LOL

Everyone looking forward to the holidays???

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 09, 2005, 23:08:29 pm
I am SO EXCITED about the holidays.  I miss my family SO much :cry: !
I can't wait to see them again :D !
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 09, 2005, 23:14:19 pm
BJ, we've been running fever off and on over here since THURSDAY.  Today he was fever free, though.  WHOOPIE!!!  There is some sort of snot-flying virus that is going around here  :wink:   No teeth yet, but the drool....ooooooooooh the drool!  And I can't find his little teethers!  GRRR!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 09, 2005, 23:22:30 pm
Oh, and here is a picture of BOTH my children.  This is Luke with his big brother, Pete.  Do they look like they're having a serious talk or what?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 10, 2005, 02:16:06 am
Well Amy, I am glad to see that the "brothers" at least share the same hair color??????   :wink:

LOL

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 10, 2005, 14:43:37 pm
Yes, my first born looks more like his daddy.  HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Question everyone....
Lately Luke has been waking up around midnight, then again around 3 or 4 and then again at 5 or 5:30, but we're trying to keep him on a schedule where he has his first morning bottle around 7, so we don't want to feed him much earlier than that.  I know I am a bad bad mama for letting him have the paci, BUT it works.  Problem is, he wakes up in the middle of the night and has lost his paci and gets all freaked out until someone puts it back in and goes right back to sleep.  In fact, it's almost like he never really wakes up, but he cries b/c the paci is gone.  At what point should we just let him "cry it out" and soothe himself?  My argument is that I don't want him to wake up TOO much for fear that he won't go back to sleep.  I think that this weekend we're going to let him cry for a while to see what he'll do, but I don't want to totally disrupt his sleep schedule!

Any advice?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 10, 2005, 15:00:22 pm
Yeah Amy, Adria and Seaflower and anyone experience night sleep issues - lets put them in a room together so they are not alone or abandoned and sleep all night and check on them in the morning!

Can you tell we had a bad night???????
Oh I am so exhausted. And moving for the last week and still boxes to unpack and more to pack at the other house isn't helping. There is such a difference in 2 1/2 hours and 4 hours of contineous sleep! I know Caeden is capable of this - he just likes to get up and nurse for 10 minutes and go back to sleep.

For whoever asked - teething was hard for us - it did seem to bother him mostly at night too and I have heard from others that this is pretty normal - for the teeth to really hurt more at night them day. Have you tried Tylonel or something like that?

I am thinking of just stopping nursing one feed at night - I hate to stop all cause he really does eat when I nurse - whether he needs it or not. So I am thinking that I will feed if he wakes up till about 11 and then not again till 5 and try this for a week and see if we get better sleep. DH is getting up at 5 so I don't mind a feed then and put him back to bed cause I have to get up to make lunch and coffee anyway. I am thinking I will just hold and offer the paci and let him go back to sleep w/o  nursing anytime he gets up between 11-5 (roughly). What do you all think - is it worth trying - do you think it may work?
Or am I just better off trying some other method?
BTW - we have tried PU/PD and he hates this - screams and upsets even more. Does use the paci and won't go to sleep w/o it, but typically doesn't wake just for the paci to be put back. Rarely use it at night. Just to go to sleep.

I am going to post the above question on the night wakings board to just to get some more opinions!
But - I would love to hear what you all think!

Oh - we are trying the pack and play - he is okay - I am not sure he likes the sides and it is much harder now for me to touch or pat him but he is getting more used to it - I think. I am still praying for a crib soon!

More later - we just got internet back last night!  I've  missed being on here!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 10, 2005, 15:14:48 pm
We used the paci for Jency when we were trying to get him not to eat at night.  He has slept from 8pm-3am (with out food) before so I know he can do it.  That is why I started cutting feedings.  What we did is used the pacifier for the first few nights until he got used to not eating at those times.  Then we weened from the pacifier at those times.  He got to the point that he was waking just for the pacifier (out of habit).  We just go in a pat him until he goes to sleep or until he starts screaming then we will picking him up and calm him down and once he's been calm for a few minutes we lay him down and pat his back again.

Last night he woke at 10pm screaming again (2 nights out of 3)  I still don't know why.  Then he woke at 11 out of habit.  Then he woke at 12am so I fed him (had been 4 hours).  Then he slept until 4am!!!  I fed him again then so that we would stay on routine.  Then dh got up at 5:30 and the alarm must have woke Jency but DH went in and settled him. YAE!
Then he didn't wake again until 7am which I gave him the paci and rocked him for a while and then put him back (trying to get him to get used to not really waking all the way until 7:30). He has been putting himself back to sleep when he wakes up at 6:30!!

I can't wait for a crib either.  Jency keeps gettin his head pushed up against the side of the pack n play and he doesn't like that. 
By the way someone asked what a pack n play is.  It is a play pen.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 10, 2005, 20:18:09 pm
CaedensMama, that is a good idea, lets leave them together for a nigth... or may be even better- leave them with one of the babies that sleep tru, hopefully s/he will teach them how it's done :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

DD is going through a growth spurt again :shock:  :?  we've just kind of managed to settle in a routine and it's all out of the window. Ah, what can you do... So back to nursing her every 2-2.5 hours! Feels as if the last two weeks were wasted!

On the good side, we stopped swaddling her and put her in a sleeping bag (grobag) and she seems to settle pretty well. Used to get out of the swaddle at the middle of the night, so now we have one problem less.

Btw, how come so many babies sleep in pack and play?? Any specific reason they are so popular? Here everybody just puts them in a cot, sometimes even straight after they are born. DD was in a moses basket for the first two months but doesn't fit in anymore :)

Have to go now... talk soon and hope the babies sleep tonight (here is me hoping!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 10, 2005, 20:40:38 pm
The only reason we are using the pack and play is that is what we have till  builds him a crib. Caeden has a cradle as well - but he has outgrown it and moved around too much for me to be comfortable using it. I had him jsut on a crib mattress till he rolled over too much and off the mattress, so now I am stuck waiting on a crib...... :?
The pack and play is smaller then a crib, so for some it may be a space issue. And it is more verstile - moves around easier, folds up quick, etc.

Any others besides Adria and I that are using them for cribs??????????

I have put Caeden in a sleep bag too - does good during the day, but the last couple nights I have ended up swaddling as well. He usually gets one arm out, but I am hoping it will help the transition. He still sleeps better swaddled, its just getting to sleep is harder without it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 10, 2005, 23:39:46 pm
We had Luke in the pack 'n play in our bedroom for the first five weeks b/c it has a bassinette attachment.  We did borrow a cradle, but we had set that up in the living room with the moses basket inside of it (long story) and didn't want to move it back and forth.

Someone on the sleep forum suggested adding to Luke's feedings to see if that would get him to sleep longer at night.  I am so afraid to do that b/c I am afraid it will upset his reflux and we've just finally gotten that under control!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 11, 2005, 00:30:50 am
Since I am breastfeeding it is hard to tell how much he is getting - tho today he went 4 hours between feeds w/o a problem and ate well when he fed - so we will see how tonight goes!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 11, 2005, 19:26:32 pm
Caeden is 5 months old today!!!!

Happy 5 month birthday to all you little ones aborn around this time!

And guess what Caeden just did...........

rolled over front to back!!!!!

He was playing happy on the floor and had rolled onto his tummy like he always does and then I was taking muffins out of the oven and when I turned back he was on his back!
Now just to wait till he realizes if he keeps turning the same direction he will actually get somewhere!!!! AHHHHHH

 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 12, 2005, 02:29:55 am
Woohoo Caeden!!!!!!!  What a big boy!!!!

Well Caitie Girl rolled from tummy to back three times today!!!  She is so funny because I got all excited and was telling her what a big girl she is and she just laughs!!!! :lol:

And I think I told you guys that she had a tooth.....yeah....make that THREE TEETH :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: Dh found #3 this morning. :roll:   Good thing is that they don't seem to phase her too badly.  Thank God for small favors. :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 12, 2005, 02:53:14 am
So BJ - which was Caitie's 3rd tooth? Still on the bottom or a top? Just curious which direction I ought to be watching!

Anybody else stopped swaddling recently?

We did - although I ended up seadlling last night at one to quiet him and get him back to sleep - he is doing good at naps and going to bed. I guess it's one step at a time!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 12, 2005, 02:58:18 am
#1 Lower right
#2 Lower left
#3 upper right


I am convinced that she thinks this intitles her to BIG eatin' on Turkey Day.   :roll:

Ry cut his bottoms first too. 

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 15, 2005, 17:33:27 pm
Where is everyone?  Where has everyone been?  Did I miss something? :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 15, 2005, 17:34:47 pm
Jency goes to bed at 8pm-still waking at 10:30, 12:00, 2:30, 4:00, 6:30, 7:00, & 7:30. I don't know what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it. I have been feeding him every 3 hours during the day and trying for every 4 hours at night.
Once he wakes up I play with him for 1.5 hours and then I hold him and give him the paci for 20 min and then set him in the swing to fall asleep. It all depends on how tired he is. Some times he will fall straight to sleep, other times he will just sit and stare for 10 min, other times he will fuss and fuss until he falls asleep. Not sure which is right and which means he's not really tired and which means he's overtired. Lately he has been taking 30-60 min naps and sometimes getting a 1.5 hour nap. Yesturday he only took 3-30min naps. I thought for sure he'd sleep good last night, either that or worse, but it was the same. Two night ago my sister was here and we spent alot of time out side and then he got 2 hours worth of naps and stayed up 4 hours before bed and slept from 8-12! Not sure what happened differently.
I have gotten to the point of where it is hard to stand up with out getting dizzy. I have to take excederine 3x a day now for my muscle pains and headache. I get an average of 4-5 hours of sleep a night. This has been going on for 2.5 months now! I can't get a nap because his are so short, by the time I start to fall asleep he is awake. Plus I have so much to do around here.
We finally got grass put in our back yard!!! It looks great! now we just have to get the rest of the sprinkling system hooked up and I won't have to water it or anything! I hope this time it lasts.
Paul has been wonderful despite the fact that he only gets about 4 hours of sleep and goes and works hard labor outside for 10 hours everyday. I am tempted to give Jency part of a sleeping pill for few nights just to retrain him to sleep at least one long stretch at night. He used to go 5.5 hours just fine  . I would be so happy if he would go to sleep at 8pm and then not wake until 1:30/2:00 and then 5:30 and then 8:00am!!

Any advice would be great! If you see anything I am doing wrong or what not.
I'm sorta confused because some people have told me to let him CIO (sorta, or at least let him fuss) and then other's tell me not to but then those people don't give me any alternative to help.  Also people have been telling me that a routine will help so I ask about how to get hin to nap longer and so on and so forth and then I get posts that I shouldn't be having him on a routine but then those still don't give me any advice on what 'to do.'  Please, I'm desperate.  I have had some bad thoughts about giving him up for adoption or just letting him lay in there and cry or giving him sleeping pills,  I'm desperate for DH and me to sleep.  I'm becoming a horrible wife and mother.  Always snapping and neglecting both of them.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 15, 2005, 17:49:31 pm
Hey Adria - I hear you. We are in a similar boat and though I don't have any wonderful advice - I can send big (((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))) - I know what you mean and I am there too.

I told DH one night to just leave him asleep in the car and we would go to bed - I was just kidding, but oh - for a full nights sleep!
I have been putting Caeden to nap on our bed and laying with him till he goes to sleep and depending on my mood I might sleep and may get up and get stuff done. He is going down for naps well, anywhere from 5-15 minutes and he is out. When he wakes I go right in quickly and lay back down with him and put him back to sleep, again sometimes 5 minutes sometimes 20 minutes. But he is going back to sleep 9 out of 10 times and I can get a 2 hour nap. Of course I really have to work and I am sometimes in there 2-3 times putting him back to sleep, but I am hoping that he will start sleeping thru some of his wakes and put himself back to sleep. So - overall our naps are getting better.

Nights - He is often up 5-6 times as well. I have been battling what to do, and stick with it. I think I am confusing him more by changing my mind - sometimes feed, sometimes not, sometimes rock, etc. So - my advice to both myself and you - pick what you are going to do and stick with it for 10 days. They say it takes 7-10 days to get them adjusted to a new schedule.
Last night Caedn surprised me - went down a little after 8 (I had just fed), slept till 11 and then till 3:30 - nursed and went right back to sleep and slept till 6! DH got up with him then and I slept till 7:30 - when they came in and I fed Caeden again. OH - I feel so much better today! It is amazing what 4 hours of continuous sleep will do for a body.

Hopefully there will be some other suggestions too - but hang in there - you will find something that works for all of you.

One thing that helps me too is just thinking what I would do if I lost Caeden - It would break my heart, I don't think I could stand it. So - when I am getting really frustrated with him, I remind myself I am thankful he is alive and healthly and there are alot of moms that would give anything to be up all night with their babies.

Oaky - enough rambling - I must get something done!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 15, 2005, 19:48:59 pm
Adria, Bless your heart!  I think that we are all just in that stage right now!  I came home yesterday and cried my eyes out.  Not because Luke won't sleep, but because he STILL has snot flyin' everywhere!  Finally last night it dawned on me that we had all of our duct work replaced this summer and the AC Tech told me that it might take a year for all of this to stop.  Plus, this is just a really hard time of year for me.  My mom died ten years ago in December and I miss her now more than ever!

As for sleep tips, I wish I could help you.  Luke has always been such a good sleeper.  I have found, though, that lately I am letting him fuss just for a little while (two minutes TOPS) to see if he can figure out how to get his thumb in his mouth or his paci back in.  He wakes up once or twice in the night and we do rush right in then because I don't want him to cry so much that he wakes himself up.

Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig hugs to everyone!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on November 16, 2005, 01:23:55 am
Adria - I am so sorry you are having such a hard time.  I know that none of us will fully understand your unique situation because it's happening to you, not us, but we try!  If you've been given conflicting advice here, I'm sorry.  I understand your frustration in not seeing the results you'd like right away. The thing is, Tracy makes it very clear that her methods only work with complete consistency and that you must see it through all the way. One must be very dedicated to starting as they mean to go on to have results. I would dfinitely choose one method and stick to it TOTALLY.  I would suggest pu/pd with Jency to teach him independent sleep.  In her new book she states that parents who find pu/pd to not work have usually not been given it enough time, or have not completely given up old habits. One must be 100% in their efforts to change sleep habits.

Quote from: *Adria's1st*
Please, I'm desperate.  I have had some bad thoughts about giving him up for adoption or just letting him lay in there and cry or giving him sleeping pills,  I'm desperate for DH and me to sleep.  I'm becoming a horrible wife and mother.  Always snapping and neglecting both of them.

I'm sure you're not serious about giving him up for adoption or giving him a sleeping pill - that those are just words from sheer exhaustion and frustration - but even telling yourself those things makes your situation worse.  Please try to focus on all of the wonderful things about Jency.  Make a plan for yourself and then follow through with it.  If you need someone to walk you through it over the phone or just to listen to you who is on the same parenting page as you, please call me!  I am more than happy to do whatever I can for you to get you out of this exhaustion and into enjoying your time with Jency and both of you getting more rest.  PM me if you are interested.  I hate to hear the desperation - I was there with my first son and I know it's so hard.  Hang in there!  Don't forget about my offer...I'm serious!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 16, 2005, 01:59:02 am
Oh Adria...  I hear you in so many ways.  I truly think as someone just said, that we are all at that stage.... but I think each in different ways.

You have my thoughts.. Big hugs.

I will share what I do with Owen and seems to work most times for us.  I let him fuss.... not cry, but fuss.  If it becomes crying I go straight in, but sometimes he fusses for 15 minutes or more.  I figure, as long as he's not crying, then he's not in any pain and maybe he's just grumbling about a bad day or something.  (I alwasy try to give him an old man's voice like I read in BW... it makes it easier for me.)  Also, you let him sleep in his swing.. we used to do that too, but now Owen sleeps only in his crib.  We leave a little music on to block out the outside noise.  Maybe your lo has out grown the swing and is ready to sleep laying while being still. 

One other thing I noticed is that you hold him for20 minutes wtih the paci.  My wind down with Owen is not nearly that long, but I'm not sure waht the "norm" is.  When he begins to look tired, I take him to his room, pull down the blinds, turn on his sheep that makes white noise, I swaddle him, sing a lullaby and then  say have a nice sleep.  I doubt it takes longer than 10 minutes max.  But my lo is an Angel baby, so I haven't struggled too much with naps.  Hope some of this may help you. 

Lastly, I would like to say that I would love 4 hours of continuous sleep!  I cannot believe that I once thought I knew what it was to be sleep deprived....  On occassion it has been 4 even close to 5 hours.  But not often enough.  I can't wait.     
  But then again, me and DP are already talking about starting on #2.  I figure I want to keep it close together and never be this sleep deprived ever again.... LOL

Keep Smiling!  (i know i try)
 :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 16, 2005, 02:04:27 am
Sorry, one more thing.

Are there any moms out there still BFing?  We tried to give ds a bottle of formula and he turned his nose up... he'll drink breast milk, but not formula.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on November 16, 2005, 02:13:22 am
Hi Daisymelan, we're still bfing here. Not sure that I have any advice for you though. Luckily Avery will take formula without too much fuss. Are you trying to wean or just supplementing? If you don't mind pumping I'd just keep doing that but if you're trying to wean you'll probably just have to keep at it.  :roll:  There are some great mod's on the bfing board that could probably give you some helpful advice if you wanted to post there as well.  :wink:

Good luck. Sorry I'm no help. :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 16, 2005, 02:23:58 am
Adria, I am sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time with your little man.  I can't really offer you any advice, because I dont' really follow any one method, I just do what it takes to get Cait to sleep.  What works for my family wont' necessarily work for your family.  I just wanted you to know that we are all here for you and I am always here for you to vent to....I don't have much in the way of advice (unless you are ready to go rebel, and then I could give you an earful!! :shock:  :wink: ) but I am always available to give you a shoulder to lean on....or sleep on if need be.  Hang in there....they eventually get it.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 16, 2005, 03:34:34 am
GUESS WHAT WE GOT TODAY :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:

A CRIB  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  and a changing table and dresser  :D  :D

DH finally gave in and we got a cheap crib set from Wal-Mart, nothing fancy but it will certainly work better then nothing till he gets something made.

He put the crib together and Caeden promptly got in and rolled over and hit his head on the side  :(  :(  :(  :(  SO - now that I didn't think to buy bumpers and pad at Wal-Mart, DH headed back out to get something.

Anyway - just had to share - now if we can have another good sleeping night I will feel wonderful!


BTW - Daiseymelan  - we are still breastfeeding only too - Caeden has never had a bottle yet though we have tried a sippy cup. Any reason you are wanting to switch to formula at this point? Just curious..... he must think that milk of yours is pretty good!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 16, 2005, 04:32:46 am
Adria,
    I agree with Sara about being consistent. You have posted on here in the past about the four hour routine, the dreamfeed... and for suggestions on naps and settling down for sleep. I have wanted to give you some advice, atleast share with you what works for me, but you don't seem to answer my posts.  If you are willing to try the baby whisperer methods, I would be happy to help, it has worked wonders for me. Whatever methods you use, just be consistent and ride them out. I have spent many days in the trenches, but it has seemed to pay off.

Here is an old post that I put on here awhile back when you had some questions about eating throught the night and a routine. I never heard anything from you after you asked for help. I would be so happy give you some advice and help if I can and if you want it. There will be moments when we are so frustrated we don't know what to do... but what a blessing it is to have these precious gifts in our lives... even with the sleepless nights  :)

Old post:
Adria,

I am so sorry you are frustrated. Tracy's methods are not going to work perfect for every baby and every situation but I don't think this is the place to talk down about her, after all she cannot defend herself. Tracy did a wonderful thing in her life and helped millions of babies and tired parents figure it out. It has worked wonders for our family, I am so glad that I found her book. As a first time mom, I found all the information on parenting overwhelming but her approach makes sense and creates a predictable day. Not all of her methods are going to work and there are certaintly bumps along the way, but the best thing we can do is give them a try and be consistent with what we are doing.

You posted a while back about transitioning Jency to the 4-hour EASY and working on naps. I believe that if you get him on a good routine the naps will begin to work themselves out and in turn help with the nightime sleep. Do you do a dreamfeed? By doing one, you control when he eats and he is not waking in the middle of the night hungry. It didn't work for us in the beginning but we stuck with it and now it's working great. You mentioned he does not go down well. What does your bedtime routine look like?

Hang in there, it will pass. Check out the sleep board, there is wonderful information on there. If Tracy's methods are not working for you that is okay, try something else. Whatever you do, be consistent with it for atleast a week, it takes awhile for our little one's to figure it out!

Big hugs
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 16, 2005, 14:35:24 pm
Jennifer:  Congrats on the crib.  I'm sure that has lessened your stress. 

Now in regards to feeding ds formula.....  I just want a night out!  Pretty sad I know, but I want to go out to see a band and drink until 2am.  Now, I used to pump, but was so discouraged, I quit.  The problem is, I don't think I have a large milk supply.  I mean, there have been occassions when I haven't nursed (lo was giving bottle of breast milk) and I could easily pump out 8 oz.  But if I try to pump after nursing, I only get about 2 oz.  It's pretty sad.  (I've tried everything... baths, looking at ds, looking at pics of ds, imagery)  Also, I find pumping so time consuming.  I have tried both manual and electric, but I don't think I have good name brands but I don't really have the money to justify buying another new pump. 

I know that morning is best, but what am I supposed to do with ds while I'm pumping?  I don't have any family around to stop in for a half hour so I can drain my boob.  LOL 

Any ideas would be great.

Hope it's sunny where you are, cuz it certainly isn't here.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on November 16, 2005, 14:44:24 pm
Quote from: daisymelan
Now in regards to feeding ds formula.....  I just want a night out!  Pretty sad I know, but I want to go out to see a band and drink until 2am.  Now, I used to pump, but was so discouraged, I quit.  The problem is, I don't think I have a large milk supply.  I mean, there have been occassions when I haven't nursed (lo was giving bottle of breast milk) and I could easily pump out 8 oz.  But if I try to pump after nursing, I only get about 2 oz.  It's pretty sad.  Also, I find pumping so time consuming.  I have tried both manual and electric, but I don't think I have good name brands but I don't really have the money to justify buying another new pump. 

 :lol: I could have wrote this myself. Except, I'm already going out. :wink: I too hate pumping and decided that dh would just supplement those days that I "needed" time off. I wish I had some advice for you on the formula situation though.  :?  Maybe try a different kind???????? I'm not real educated on formula's but I bet someone on the bottle feeding board would know something.

PS: go out, have fun, and drink until 2am. Sounds wonderful (until the next day that is  :roll: )  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

PSS: it's snowing here  :x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 16, 2005, 17:01:02 pm
We give Luke Enfamil Gentlease.  It's for babies with a lot of gas and fussiness.  We used to give him Nutramigen (AKA Liquid Gold) but were able to transition to the Gentlease with no problem.  It's the same price as regular formula!  I don't think there's a bad formula out there.  Just make sure you get one with Iron.  Enfamil Lipil with Iron, Similac Advance with Iron....even the store brands are good.  My pedi confirmed that it's all the same stuff, just not the brand name, so it's good.  Our grocery store has HEB with Lipids and Iron and it's the same stuff as Enfamil Lipil with Iron....


Can I ramble on some more?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 16, 2005, 23:06:57 pm
You know what really sends me into orbit?  When EVERYBODY has to have their own freakin opinion, whether you asked for it or not!!!!!  It is 55 degrees here (we're not exactly in the Arctic Tundra) and I took Luke to a bridal shower this afternoon.  I walked from the car to the house, and from the house to the car.  The kid has on a footed long sleeve outfit and I got blasted for not having him in a hat and a coat with a blanket.  GIVE ME A FREAKIN' BREAK!!!!!!

sorry  :x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 16, 2005, 23:49:33 pm
Quote from: amystoker
It is 55 degrees here (we're not exactly in the Arctic Tundra) and I took Luke to a bridal shower this afternoon.  I walked from the car to the house, and from the house to the car.  The kid has on a footed long sleeve outfit and I got blasted for not having him in a hat and a coat with a blanket. 

That cracks me up - it's been below freezing here all week and I was feeling bad cause I have Caeden in a heavy jacket with hat but no mittens and his hands were so cold last night - I felt awful!
55 here would be like summer! It's suppose to be 40 or below all week - and gets downright cold at night! BTW - whoever said it was snowing.....we got it Sun night and it is still on the ground in some places, mostly melted off the streets though!


And daisymelan - I hear you on wanting a night out - I would settle for just a few hours! DH isn't ready to leave Caeden though..... any ideas on convincing him he would be fine with my mom while we went out to dinner?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 17, 2005, 15:08:21 pm
Iwould love to go out for more then 2 hours!
Jency won't take a bottle!!
I am scepticle about formula because the #1 inged. is corn syrup! :?
He doesn't sleep as it is!
He's got a cold that my sister gave him.
 :(
It was 9 degrees last night.  Jency loves to be out side in the cold.  usually i just have him in his winter cloths with a blanket around.  His little nose, hands, and ears get so cold but he doesn't care!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 17, 2005, 18:14:05 pm
Ummmm.....Adria.......what kind of formula ingredients have you been reading?  I personally went to Cait's can and NO where does it say corn syrup.  I would think that would be a HUGE FDA no-no.  Just curious what brand you are looking at.


bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 17, 2005, 19:06:38 pm
I have to agree with BJ on that one.

Adria, have you tried pumping and giving a bottle?  If Jency's hungry enough, that bottle will be gobbled :-)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 17, 2005, 19:30:12 pm
The other thing I have heard is when offering the bottle - either breastmilk or formula - have someone besides you give it to him - your husband or whoever may watch him. He may not take from you well cause he knows he typically gets milk in other ways from you!

Just a hint I have heard that may help!

Also - if you will be back close to a feed and don't want to give anything else, I have heard giving a small amount of water is fine and often helps "stave off" the hunger for a while - giving you another 30-45 minutes. Honestly - if I leave Caeden with my mom or husband I will plan to be back to feed and if he is getting hungry and wants something I will let them give him some water. He has taken from me before from a sippy cup and gets like maybe an ounce, if that - but it entertains him and does seem to help him go a little longer to the feed!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on November 18, 2005, 01:11:49 am
Quote from: *Adria's1st*
I am scepticle about formula because the #1 inged. is corn syrup! :?

WHAT??????
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: sara_derek on November 18, 2005, 01:15:13 am
Adria,

I am having a hard time trying to figure you out.  You come on here and say how desperate you are and how much help you need (saying you want to give your baby a sleeping pill is SERIOUS desperation to me), then people try to help you and you don't reply to them and go on as if you never needed help...until the next time that is.  What is up????  I apologize if I'm coming across harshly - I just don't know how to help you when you don't take any advice offered.  So, my last piece of advice to you will be this: read Tracy's newest book and just try what she suggests and be consistent.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 18, 2005, 09:16:38 am
only discovered this thread 2 weeks ago and then went on hol, but have just read the messages posted while i was away and it sounds like everyone is having a pritty rough time!  :(  i know my lo is going through loads of changes at the moment and thats affecting his sleep and making him more grumpy than usuall...and it sounds like im not the only one!

Anyway i know im new but i just thought id send (((((HUGS))))) to you all.


I
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 18, 2005, 09:20:08 am
BTW i lost my mum 10 years ago aswell amystoker so i completly understand how you miss her more than ever now, i feel the same, sopmetimes you just need a hug dont you?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 18, 2005, 13:57:16 pm
In regards to the formula... well, we haven't tried it again.  We are working on getting a better pump and I'll see if it works better at getting milk out of the ol' cow.  He has taken bottles before, but never formula.  oh well.

Things here have been pretty good.  Owen has been fussy to get to sleep at night, but only at bedtime... every other time he's fine.  Got to figure out what to do.  Maybe keep him up later.

BTW, how many naps are your little ones getting?  Owen is on a 3- 4 hour EASY and that allows for 3 pretty solid naps a day.  He's loving his Jumparoo right now!  It's nice that he can entertain himself a little... a little independance for both of us. 

Emotionally I'm still a little low, but the public health nurse will be here monday.  I may need to go back on meds for my anxiety, but it's what is important for my lo. 

And still no drinking to report. (me drinking that is) but don't worry, I'll give a full report whenever it happens!!!  LOL

I really like the water in the sippy cup idea.  I'm storing that away for future use. 

Lastly, have any of you mamas seen Bringing Home Baby on TLC?  If I had seen that show before I had Owen, well.....  haha, just kidding, but it's so much more reality that a baby story.  It always makes me laugh and reminds me of our first few days home.  Doesn't it seem eons ago?

Ok, that's my essay for today.  LOL.

It's actually sunny here today, I think i may get out because i have been inside for 3 days.   :(   

Hugs, hugs and more hugs!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 18, 2005, 14:01:45 pm
Hi, I've been trying to catch up with the posts and don't have much time to reply. DD keeps wakign up every 5 mins from her nap and I'm determined to keep her asleep, hence have to jump in with the soother on and off.

I'm still BF and regarding the expressing I also used to get about 1-2oz initially. It takes time for the supply to regulate, not I'd get anything from 2-5oz after a feed. I freeze it and then let DH or the MIL feed DD if I'm out. We try to give her a bottle once every week or two so she gets used to it. She doesnt; seem to mind where the food comes from. LOL :lol:  :lol:

As for the baby feeding to often, try and strech the times slowly, it did work for us. She used to feed every 2 hours, and now is up to 3-4 depending on her mood and naps. Naps are still all over the place, and 45 mins short, was extending them with sh/p but there was alot going on last week and stopped. Now starting again from square one:) She also wakes up during the night, alot! I only feed her every 4 hours or so, but started letting her in bed with me to get some sleep (me, not her:) ) Feeding is much easier, but sometimes in the mornign don't remember when I fed her as I was half-asleep. Thinking of weaning the paci slowly but the thought still terrifies me, so still gathering courage:)


Hugs to all moms and babies, hope you are keeping well. I'm limiting my Internet time this week and trying to do some housework :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 18, 2005, 14:03:14 pm
Oh, also I've read somewhere if the baby doesn't want to take formula, try and mix it with EBM - mainly EBM and little formula, slowly increaing the amount of formula... As I said I'm expressing and freezing it, so haven't tried it myself.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 18, 2005, 14:40:45 pm
Slowly but surely we are getting into a better routine.

Caeden took a 2 hour nap yesterday ALL BY HIMSELF!!!! I had been going in and resettling after 45-60 minutes when he would wake. Toda he just never woke - YEAH!!!!!!  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

We had 2 nights of only up at 11 & 3, then the last 2 nights he was up at 11, 2 & 4:30. Though once each night he has not been hungry, just fussy and hard to get back to sleep. Not sure why, he just fusses and cries for about 30 minutes and then will finalyl go back to sleep.

So far he seems to be liking his crib, though I have still done a couple naps on my bed..... it's easier for me cause I can lay down too and we both relax. I know - I need to break the habit soon!
But we are leaving for Phoenix next week, and I know he will need to nap some on bed while visiting family, so I am okay with keeping it up till we get back then work on it!


Anyway - he was up this morning at 4:30, nursed and went back to sleep but promptly woke up when I laid him down and pooped. SO - he was up for awhile. Then finally went down and slept till 7:30. So - we will see how today goes.

Have a great day all!

Adria - how are you doing????
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 18, 2005, 15:38:47 pm
Amystoker:  I completely agree how everyone feels it's their job to tell you what to do, when to do it and how.  (can I add where?)  Geeez...

I also hate when someone asks how I managed to get ds to nap so well, etc.  When I tell them about BW they then feel the need to tell me how they have a better book/website/info, etc.  Well then, why did you ask me?  Especially since your lo takes a million 20 minute naps a day and you have no time for yourself or your sanity.  Arg....

This is a long story, but one I'm sure some of you can relate to.

My lo was about a week old or so.  My mom was here helping and visiting and insisted we go out to eat (she knows that I'm a person who needs to be around ppl and tried to get me out into the real world ASAP).  We went to eat at a little pub eatery out on the boardwalk in the fresh air.  (also to keep my ds where if he decided to make noise it would be easy to run off and soothe him and not disturb ppl)  It was a bit windy so we had a thin receiving blanket partially covering his face.  Some woman who had been drinking there came over and told us she was a nurse in the maternity wing of the hospital and her daughter had also just had a baby. 

At this time ds was crying and I was holding him.  He was doing his reflex of bobbing his head on my shoulder and she told me he was hungry and that I had to suplement a bottle, because that's what her daughter had to do.  I had just fed him less than an hour ago. 

My mom then finished her meal and took ds so I could finish mine.  This lady just wouldn't leave and sat at our table!!!  My mom then took ds away from the patio so she could console him.  The lady just kept blabbing..  I kept saying thanks, but everything is fine.  Finally I had enough and asked her to leave.  Anyways, to make a long story short, it ended in a shouting match infront of about 50 + ppl.  I was at the height of baby blues and couldn't take it anymore. 

I couldn't find my mom and needed to leave.  Finally my mom showed up and we paid and left.  I knew some of the staff and after I left apparently the shift manager asked her to leave.  She said she would go to the media... the manager asked her what she would say "I was drunk by 5pm on a Friday and upset a new mom?"   A week later the manager got in touch with DH and gave us a gift certificate to the restaurant. 

I could have burned a hole in the woman with my eyes...I swear.  Even writing about the story I'm all tense.  I couldnt even tell the story without crying for the first 2 weeks.

Can't ppl just mind their own business???????

Thanks for letting me rant.  Phew, I think I feel better.  lol
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 18, 2005, 16:47:18 pm
daisymelon- Jake is taking three naps a day, two longer ones and then a short catnap in the evening. He is on the 4 hour easy. I would like to drop the evening nap but he can't seem to make it to bedtime without it :)

Sorry about your encounter with that lady...what gives her the right to but in? Everyone always seems to think they know best... but after spending day and night with out little ones, I think we know what is best for them!

As for a night out.... I am finally having one tomorrow! I am soooo excited. DH and I decided it was time, it has been five long and wonderful months but it is time to do it. Not only are we going to dinner but we are going to stay in a hotel! We are going for the whole night. I can't wait to sit in the jacuzzi. It will also be nice to go to bed once and not wonder when I will be getting up again. It's going to feel weird and I probably will wake up every hour wondering how Jake is.... but oh well, it is time :) My sister in law is coming from out of town to watch Jake, hopefully everything will go smoothly.
 
Hope everyone has a great weekend!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 18, 2005, 17:43:55 pm
Oh jswerczek - I am jealous!!!!
I love my son dearly and wouldn't trade him for the world, but I am so ready for a night out too. Would love to go all night but that isn't happening for awhile. I cannot convince my wonderful husband that it would be okay to leave Caeden with my mom for a couple hours....... I have tried a couple times and hinted many times and he just isn't ready to leave him. Maybe I need to try the you watch him and I'll go out approach.
Have a wonderful weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 18, 2005, 19:46:26 pm
Hi Tom also has 3 naps a day and is on 4 hr easy. Im really lucky as he sleeps 12 hrs at night (he does wake but hes easy to settle :D ) but as hes never needed much sleep (at 4 weeks he only use to hane 14 hrs sleep in 24!) so he only takes 45 min naps. This use to worry me as i was afraid of breaking the EASY rules :oops: but ive decided im luckyer than most and should just count my blessings! how much sleep do your LOs sleep in a 24 hr period?

I got loads of un asked for advice aswell, but moslly from my inlaws who believe on parenting on demand. i havent said anything as i dont want to upset them, everyone has there own ways of raising there kids, its just im too uptight to be able to go with the flow like they do!!! MIL babysitting tomorrow tho so Tom will get lots of on demand food and naps!! :wink:  :roll:  At least idont get loads of advice from strangers tho!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 18, 2005, 20:35:22 pm
I'm sorry that I haven't answered posts about my situation.  I am so exahsted and busy that I seem to only get time to read everyones posts and jot a little something down so that you know that I'm not here just to 'get' advice.  We were going to start letting him fuss longer when he wakes at night and only going in when he starts crying and then not pucking him up just patting and shshing. 
Alison:  He too only seems to take 3 short naps.  I can usually get one to be 1.5 hours, but recently he has wanted that one to be his morning nap.  But on the other hand when he takes a short morning nap he is a grump until his next nap.  I am trying to get him to where his morning nap is about an hour and his late after noon nap 1.5-2 hours and then his mid day one just be a quicky to get him through.  But you are lucky that yours sleeps at night.   Mine doesn't.
Anyway,  We were going to work on everything but he got a really nasty cold.  In fact yesturday he took 2 2hour naps (one with help every 10 min the other with just one help at the 30min mark)  THen last night we put him to bed 30min early because he was just so tired (with the cold and all) but then he woke 30min later and I got him settled and he woke 10 min later and I got him settled and then he woke 2.5 hours later so I fed him. His poor little nose was SO stuffed up.  Then 2 hours after that I went and checked him because he hadn't woke.  He squirmed a little but I left to let him go back to sleep on his own.   Then 2 hours later I went back to check because he still hadn't woke.  I went in and he didn't move so I put my hand on him and didn't feel anything.  I put my hand back on him and shook him alittle and got no response (now mind you this is a baby that will wake from a deep deep sleep with just a creek of a board or opening of a door).  So I shook him again and nothing.  So I did again and nothing.  So I yelled for my husband and flipped on the light.  As soon as I did this he woke up (not completely though) so I turned off the light and put the paci in and sat with him.  I then put him back and he went right to sleep.  The paci fell out and I was so shook up I made him take it back so that I could see that he was sucking.  This woke him again and so when I couldn't get him resettled for 5 min I fed him.  Then he slept for another 2.5 hours! 
I guess we will see what happens tonight and what happens after the cold goes away.  Of course then it's the holiday and we will be traveling.

So I will reply to everyone's posts when we pick up again.  Thanks again for everything.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 19, 2005, 03:15:45 am
Jennifer-  I think it's sweet that you DH doesn't want a night out... it's usually the mommy that has a hard time :) If he isn't ready than you should definately plan a night for yourself and do something special! He'll feel left out and want to do it too :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 20, 2005, 14:02:02 pm
Jennifer:  That's awesome.  Get out and I'm sure he'll follow next time!  lol

Just wanted to let you all know that Owen went his first night with only waking up once!!!  Well, he woke for his DF around 10ish, but then didn't wake again unitl 3:30!!  Oh my!!!!!! 

Also, and update on the formula.  I was able to pump 2oz and we mixed it with 3/4oz of formula.  It took a little convincing but DH was able to give him the entire bottle, and then I topped him up.  Do you think maybe it was the formula???  We did the bottle feed for his DF.

I'm not gloating, just wanted to share my good news.  Hopefully if all goes well, next weekend I will be heading out to do some major dancing!

Big hugs and a happy sunny Sunday to you all!

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 20, 2005, 15:15:24 pm
okay here is some clarification on the whole "corn syrup" situation and formula.  The premixed liquid formula has 1.9% corn syrup in it.  The powdered, do it yourself canisters, I did not see corn syrup in the ingredients.  So, Adria, I would suggest IF you wanted to do formula at some point, get the powdered and add water.

This has sparked great interest in my brain, so while I was out grocery shopping last night, I took a look at the liquid version.  But in MY opinion, 1.9% corn syrup is not a bad percentage when taking into consideration, that is for the whole container.

Anyway, Cait has been waking at 12:00 am on the dot for the last 3 nights, and I am going insane.  She will only go back to sleep if I hold her, which during the day is no big deal, but at night, it is a bit much.  Hoping it is just a teething issue and not some sort of monster I have created!!!  If I have, get ready to start offering up the advice to help me out!!!

Jodie, Congrats on the sleeping through.  It might be the formula, they say that formula babies do go longer between feedings than breast babies...maybe tank him up at night to sleep through and b/f during the day.  Of course, I know NOTHING of b/f, so I don't know if that is possible.  I can't believe most of our kids are about to be 6 months old!!!  Where did the time go?  (oh...it passed me by while I was sleep walking through my life  :roll: )

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 21, 2005, 20:54:28 pm
Well, ladies, I just had my first weekend away from my little man and I survived!!  I went to visit my best friend (six hours away) and we had a ball.  Of course, I missed my baby TERRIBLY, but how nice it was to sleep for 10 hours uninterrupted!!

When I got home last night he was already in bed and almost asleep.  I made the mistake of putting my hand on him (I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH HIM!) and he rolled over and saw me and started laughing!  BIG BELLY LAUGHS!!!  COMPLETE WITH SQUEALS OF JOY!

Made me feel great to know he missed me as much as I missed him  :wink: His daddy had a ball during his boys' weekend for sure!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 21, 2005, 21:16:50 pm
Nothing better than knowing how much you are loved and missed, huh???  We missed you too!!  :wink:

Glad to hear you had a great time.  It is so hard for us mom's to just take "us" time, isnt' it?

We have reached another milestone....Cait is holding her own bottle!! Woohoo....makes diaper changing easier when she is screaming bloody murder!!  Anyway, If I shouldn't get the chance to say so later, I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on November 21, 2005, 22:38:57 pm
Hi all - just wanted to pop in and say Happy Thanksgiving - we are leaving in the morning for Phoenix and will be gone a week - so we will see you all when we get back!

 :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 23, 2005, 21:07:56 pm
Question for bj and any other mom's doing solids....

When are you giving solids, before or after bottle? If anyone could post a sample of their routine, it would be helpful!

Also, how much of each food do you give in one meal?

I would appreciate any advice. Right now we are only doing rice cereal and carrots. I plan to introduce green beans in a couple of days. I am just struggling with when to feed the solids and how much to give. Thanks!

Hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 23, 2005, 22:30:54 pm
We started off with just cereal mid morning (about an hour after his second bottle).   Next we added green veggies before his bath, still after his bottle.  Then we added fruit to his morning cereal....a half jar at first.  Gradually, he DEMANDED more fruit (Guess the little guy likes it!).  The rule of thumb that I have stuck to is only doing one thing a time and doing it for a week or more before changing.  Stick with one specific veggie or fruit for that amount of time.  We started off with half a jar each time and now he wants a full jar.  There are no hard fast rules....frustrating though that may be....just do what works for YOUR schedule!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 23, 2005, 22:45:04 pm
We haven't started solids yet....  so no help here.  i just know i've heard rice cereal, then veg, then fruit.  i'm not looking forward to another added responsibility.

Amy:  it must have been wonderful to get away, but even better to see lo when you returned.  I'm jealous.

bj:  congrats on the bottle holding

and an update on the formula... he's taking half breast milk and half formula.  i can only pump about 2 oz so we don't do a whole feed, but he does drain the bottle and i top him up.  slowly we'll hopefully get him on full formula so the cow can have a night out.     

hear me mooooo!!!!!!!!

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 24, 2005, 03:39:14 am
Jennifer-we have since moved on to oatmeal cereal.  I don't even measure it out anymore, I just pour it into the bowl and wait till it "looks" right.  She usually eats what I give her and doesn't complain to much.  I find that she does better eating a couple of bites, and then some drink.  Too much cereal and it gets gunky in her mouth.   :roll:   Love those techy phrases, don't ya?  So far, I have only been doing it at night, but dh called me at work this morning and asked if he could give her some fruit.  Idon't know if he did mangos or apples.  Too tired to ask.

Once we move, I hope to get us on track and really hit her hard with the solids.

Oh....a confession.  She only has two teeth.  The top tooth evidently changed its mind and sucked back in. :roll:   Either that, or her brother knocked it out already.  :wink:  :shock:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 24, 2005, 09:22:34 am
We do solids at 2 meals now, 11.30 and 3.30 and tom loves it. Ive been making my own baby food rather than jars and i use 3 ice cubes worth imediatly before giving the bottle, he would happily eat more but as hes sdtill under 6 months i dontwant to give him too much as it may mean he takes less milk.  :?  so far hes had baby rice, pear, apple, pottato, carrott, sweed, sweet potato, baby rusks apricot and today hes having parsnip for the first time!! :shock:  i give him a new food every3 days andso far he loves it all!! the loraine kell book is REALLY good  as recipys are simple and you can be sure your not feeding them a food theyre not ready for yet!

had a bad night last night as tom has a cold, so he cant breath through his nose, he hep waking copughing and spluttering and seemed to panick that he cant breath, i was scaired so i dont know how he must have felt!!, best go as hes getting grizzly! :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 24, 2005, 16:03:47 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen....we have a tooth!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 24, 2005, 23:27:19 pm
amystoker- That's exciting! I bet he looks pretty cute with his pearly white... :)

Thank everyone for all the solids advice, it gave me an idea of what I should be doing.

We took away the dreamfeed cold turkey last night. I was up most of the night worried that he would wake up hungry, but he slept all through, ya! I hope it wasn't a fluke. We have been doing a df consistently since about 10 weeks old. He was only taking 3-5 oz. and I figure that is what he is taking in for solids now... and my husband and I are so tired of doing it and not going to bed at the same time, I hope we are done now for good. We'll see how the next few nights go...!

Hope everyone had a great holiday and didn't eat too much :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 27, 2005, 00:15:21 am
amy-great news!!  Did you let him gnaw on a turkey leg???   :wink:  Cait is doing some serious watching when we eat "real" food.  I can all but see her smacking her lips together. :roll:

Have I mentioned lately how much I HATE packing???  But good news is when I get back up and running next week, I should have DSL instead of dialup!!!  WOOHOO!!!! :lol:  :D   Yes, ladies....it is the little things.....

Did ALL of the children's xmas shopping yesterday.  Everything is done except for Cait's jammies, which I guess I will get later this week.  I will do Dh's shopping when we close on the property so I can make sure that we don't need the money I will be spending.  How was everyone's Tday?

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 27, 2005, 17:02:55 pm
Hi, haven't posted in a while... to be honest have no energy to even check my computer these days. We got rid of the paci last week, went quite well... but I got mastitis at the same time and it was a bit of a hectic weekend. Then two days later DD decided she doesn't like to nap any more and started to scream blue murder every time I put her to sleep...

So she has been sleeping in our bed last few nights and I don't even remember how many times a night I feed her, I am too tired to even wake up fully - ust put her on the breast as soon as she makes some noise and both of us go back to sleep. Terrible habit, I know, but seem to hav no energy to do anything, just feel like crying most of the time!  :(  Any words of wisdom are more than welcome...

Oh, and the lenght of her naps is getting progessively shorter:( Now I'm lucky if she does 40 minutes.

Amy congrats on the first tooth, it is so exciting! jswerczek, well done on Jake sleeping tru, may be we will meet them up with Daniella, so he'll tell her how is it done!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on November 27, 2005, 17:05:42 pm
BJ, wow, Xmas shopping... I haven't even thought of it yet :shock: Better get myself organised and start it soon.

Are you bringing the lo to meet Santa? I can't wait...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 27, 2005, 19:11:15 pm
I've decided that everyone is getting pictures of our little family for Christmas this year.  Let the frame shopping begin!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on November 27, 2005, 19:45:32 pm
Hi everyone I just found this forum! I am sorry I missed it! My ds, Aiden will be 5 months in two weeks! This week he rolled over, sat by himself,and  started cutting a tooth(ouch!!) Yes I am not getting anysleep.

Pictures for Christmas was my idea! :wink: Maybe cookies as well
 :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Lara's Mum on November 27, 2005, 20:40:39 pm
hey there... it's great to know that we're not alone in this. Lara will be 7 weeks next thursday, and i  know exactly how u all feel. only thing is she seems to sleep well if she's with my mother, but if i'm the one sleeping with her she's up almost most of the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :?  :shock:  :shock:  she was 7.11 lb when she was born and 10.2 on her first month check-up. the doctor told me she was pudgy and that i should cut down on the feeds, but my milk didn't come in except around the second week pp and even then it wasn't that much so i had to top her off with formula, and sometimes she screams so much from hunger that i really can't cut down on her feeds. i'm really looking forward to her turning three months as they say that that is the beginning of their playfullness (hopefully). good luck to u all and will pop in whenever i can.....Sweet dreams even if its for a little while 8)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 28, 2005, 13:24:39 pm
seaflower, sorry things are so tough right now, your lo is just the same age as ds was when his sleep (night and day) went up the wall. It was also the time when i started to feel really bad, aparently around 4 months is when our hormones go up the creek. I saw my hv who is now comming to see me regually (shes no help on the sleep issue, but it helps me to talk through my own feelings, i was scaired it would make them more real but its really helped).

I know it doesn't help much, but it seems all babies (or most) seem to have sleep issues at this age :roll:  it helped me to know that and remember its not my fault, it will get better :)

I wish i could give some advice and tips on the naps, but i wasnt able to beat them myself....although now ive changed his routine (not actually easy any more now easa  :oops: ) i dont worry about the short naps as much. Have you tried the sleep boards.... i found them usefull for advice, although dont get to hung up on solving the prob (i did and it made me feel crap)

Anyway i hope you get some sleep soon :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 28, 2005, 15:43:34 pm
Welcome and hello to Supermans mom. 

Congrats on the tooth Amy.

Seaflower... so sorry to hear of your sleep issues.  It will get better..... just think how fast the past 5 months have gone.. it's only a blip in the whole scheme of things.  Hard to remember, but that's what I try to tell myself.

Things here have a been a little off.  Owen started having BM only once every few days, which is much different than his 4 or 5 times a day. 

Plus he's been having sleep issues.  He usually goes down ok for naps, but at night.... wow... how does he know its sleep time and not nap time?  it's been like this for 2 weeks at least.  Once we put him down he fusses for up to 2.5 hours at which point i nurse him for DF.  For the first week we didn't change anything but he didn't go down, so we started nursing him before he slept in case he was hungry.....  still the same thing.  He usually has about three naps a day 1.5/1.5/1 hrs.

Any advice is welcome.  I will also post this on the sleep forum.

Lastly, poor DH......  He is getting frustrated because Owen won't go down for him at nap time.... only me.  I feel like we already have some separation anxiety or something, but it's much too early for that.

But other than that, life is wonderful!  lol
Title: HELP!
Post by: Critter on November 28, 2005, 15:57:41 pm
Ok, I have tried posting on the sleep forum, and I never get any responses, so it's up to you all to solve my problems!  :wink:

For the past week, Luke is waking up at 3, 3:30, 4, 4:30, 5, 5:30, etc...He'll go back to sleep once we get the paci back in his mouth, but he doesn't STAY asleep.  Also, his naps are WAY off.  10 minutes here, 20 minutes there...all this from a sleeping CHAMPION.  What gives?  He typically goes to bed around 6:45 or 7 and USED to sleep until 6:30 or 7 the next morning (with a dream feed).  Now he's all over the place.  What do I do?  do I keep him up later at night?  We were thinking of trying to drop the dream feed, but I don't know if that will just mean that we're up at midnight and then again at 3, 4, 5, 6....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on November 28, 2005, 17:56:15 pm
Hi

Unfortunatly I am in the same boat for sleep problems. Daisymelen my ds is doing the exact same thing at bedtime. I haven't gotten any help on the sleep borads so :roll: .

I had a question about teething. For two day Aiden has been showing all signs of teething. I mean I couldn't feel a tooth but he had all the signs, was even using the cool rings to sooth himself. Then this morning it magically disappeared. What gives? I am confused.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 28, 2005, 18:09:12 pm
Amy:  I don't have an answer as you see by my last post I'm having my own troubles, but waht about weening him from the paci?  Ds wouldn't take one for me at first, but now he will and we started using one to get him to sleep at night, but then we quickly noticed how his night sleep was digressing.  We put it together and stopped with the paci.

Maybe it's the same for your lo.  They are waking up and unable to soothe themselves back to sleep. 

But i know if wasn't getting good nights sleep, the idea of weening my lo off of a paci would probably not sit well.

I don't think dropping the DF will do much and rather than keeping them up later, maybe fewer naps? 

One last thing, did the sleep problems start around when you started giving food?  Not that I have experience in that, but I heard that that can upset things and know ppl who have stopped solids once they started because of sleep troubles.. (but i think it was more upset tummies)

Hope this maybe gives you some ideas.

Wishing you luck and sleep!

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 28, 2005, 19:01:46 pm
I wish that I could pinpoint one thing that has changed or disrupted his sleep patterns.  He's been on solids since late September, so I know that isn't it.  The only new thing is his tooth.  But, why would that totally rock his little world in just the past few days?  He's been working on that chomper for a month now!

As for the paci, he's always used it, but ONLY when he sleeps.  I just don't understand why all of a sudden he's unable to do without it.  He's been spitting it out and still sleeping through for months now.  Sorry if it seems I have an excuse for everything, it's just that I have thought of these things too!

Just a question for those of you who have already weaned off the paci....how did you do it?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 28, 2005, 19:58:16 pm
Hey amystoker- we just got rid of the pacifier. Jake sounds like Luke... was only using it for sleep and would spit it out and sleep without it. But then all of a sudden a few weeks ago, he was having problems getting through his naps... when the paci fell out, he would cry until I put it back it. It drove me crazy because I had seen him sleep without it many times. So I just decided to get rid of it now instead of later. We went two whole days without it. He was very hard to settle for naps and at bedtime. He of course cried more but that is to expected when you don't have something in your mouth. The third day we had an early wake-up. We don't have those too often and in the past I had always went in, gave pacifier and patted him back to sleep. Well, determined not to give in, I tried to put him back to sleep for an hour and no luck. I felt horrible but I finally gave him the pacifier. Of course he went back to sleep. I felt like I had broke the rules on him and confused him, but then for his first nap that day, he was fine without it. We have not used it since and that was two weeks ago. I am sure he has forgotten it by now. My advice is just to do it. In a couple of days, he will not even remeber what the paci is! There will be a few more tears and a little more work on your part, but it is worth it.

I send out big hugs to all... it sounds as if all the babies are on a sleeping strike! My best advice is stick to the sleep boards, they will eventually answer you and give some good advice. I would suggest looking at the whole day and your routine and see if anything has been off lately. I know when Jake's naps started getting shorter and shorter, I realized I was putting him down too early and started to keep him awake longer. It seemed to work. If anyone would like to post their baby's day, I could sure try and help out  :)

Also, I know those early morning hours are tough, I think that is when they are in their lightest sleep. There are some mornings when Jake is awake off and on from 4-7 am. Sometimes he needs resettling, but for the most part, he just makes all sorts of noises and sleeps off and on.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 28, 2005, 20:36:09 pm
I am also seriously considering turning off the monitor in our bedroom and just leaving the one in the kitchen on.  I have to have one b/c no way can I hear him cry from our room (even if he screams bloody murder) b/c we have a sequestered master.

I think I have just decided to do it.  Daycare might not like it, but they have to helap me out, right?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 28, 2005, 23:22:08 pm
OK, daycare said that he didn't take a paci AT ALL today, so we all agreed to just quit using it cold turkey.  My LO is in there screaming his brains out (it's time for his late afternoon nap and there is nooooooooooooooooooo paci!)  I feel like a mean mean mama, but I know that it will all be ok in a day or two!  I just HATE hearing him cry like this!  Pat/Sh isn't working and neither is PU/PD.  I finally just walked out.  I go back in every five minutes or so, but I am wondering if that is making it worse!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 28, 2005, 23:54:22 pm
Hang in there Amy, it gets worse before it gets better.  Isn't that the way babies work?

Thanks jswerczek.

Here is his schedule.... now I don't have set nap times... they vary in length and at which time, each day.  I just follow his cues.
And he is EBF

E 8am
A 8:30
S 10:15
E 12
A 12:30
S 1
E 3:30
A 4:00
S 5:30
E6:30
A 7
E 8:15
S 8:30

I feed him around 10:30 but he wakes and I feed, not a true DF
Then he wakes to feed another 1 or 2 times in the night.  falls asleep before in crib after feeds or settles easily.

And actually, his naps are becoming the same as night sleep.  He fights and fusses,ssometimes cries.  He used to just fall asleep after some small fusses or just some awake time in crib(angel)  No teeth yet and none that I can see coming.

Any ideas are welcome.

(my fingers are sore from typing)

Thanks
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 00:06:01 am
Well, after 45 minutes of crying, I finally went in there and rocked him until he fell asleep...I know, I know....don't create another prop, but a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do!  Now, I just hope this doesn't keep him awake until midnight!  Usually he will sleep from 4:30 - 6ish....he didn't go to sleep until 5:45  :shock: I am anxious to see how this goes.  His normal bedtime is 6:45.  I have been wishing that he would stay up a little later so that we could go out to dinner every once in a while....I should be careful what I wish for, huh?

I can't remember who asked for a schedule, but here is our "ideal" day (up until last week!)
6 or 6:30 bottle and then right back to sleep for an hour
9ish - Nap
10:30 bottle
11:30 fruit and cereal
12:30 nap
2:30 or 3 bottle
4:30 ish short nap
5:30 veggies
6:00 bottle, bath, and in bed by 6:45 or 7
10:15 dream feed
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 02:21:21 am
Ok, ladies!  No major meltdowns at bedtime without the paci!  YEA!  Maybe it only took one BAD fit???  Cross your fingers! :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on November 29, 2005, 12:56:50 pm
Hi girls!!  I have been popping in and checking the thread, just haven't had time to respond to anyone in detail.  Sorry. :oops:   I am packing and rearing children and about to pull out my hair.  I hate a household in chaos. :roll:

If it makes anyone feel better, Cait is having sleep issues too.  She wakes anytime between 4-6 am and has a party in the crib till she starts crying and then I have to get up to feed her before she will go back to sleep.  Good news is that once I feed her, she burps and I sit her up a bit to prevent reflux.....I go stick her back in her crib FULLY awake and she puts herself to sleep.  WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?????  Why can't she do that the other 20 times I put her down during the day?

Anyway, we are closing on our new house today and moving.  I won't be able to check my mail till Thursday afternoon when I am at work.  Good luck with getting the kids back in line.  I really think we need to start limiting their phone calls to one another.  The long distance will start causing as many problems as their NOT sleeping!!!!! :roll:  :wink:

see ya in a couple of days.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 29, 2005, 14:22:46 pm
Tom goes into his own room this month hes been sleeping in ours until now, as this is recomended in UK to help prevent SIDS. I cant wait as i dont sleep well with him in there as im afraid to make any noise in the night (if i sneeze it often wakes him with a fright!!) Im worried that he wont settle in his room tho  :roll:  were pritty lucky as his night sleep is quite good ,we went through what you all seem to be going through when he was 3 months old, but DH hjas pritty much got him back on track :) . He still wakes in the night a couple of times (about 3 am and 5 am) but settles as soon as you put his dummy in. I guess im just thinking we should get rid of the dummy before he goes to his own room (its not a prob at moment as we can reach over without even having to get out of bed!!) :oops:

He doesnt wake when his dummy drops out, its more that it helps him get back to sleep... we have only just managed to sort his daytime naps out so am worried if we get rid of dummy unnecceserily this will screw that up (and i really cant face that AGAIN!!) especially as he has had a bad cold recently and seems to need all the comfort he can get!!

We probebly respond to his grumples too soon in the night anyway, he never gets to the stage of actually crying, just grumbles and dh gives him dummy! perhaps being in his own room will stop him waking in the night anyway (she says hopefully) as he may put himself back to sleep (i know he can do this) if we dont intervene before he crys!

Anyway I hope you are all OK and getting at least some sleep.... i cant give much help on solving the prob as we solved it giving DS the dummy before he fully woke and this broke him of the waking habit (he was waking 5 or 6 times a night at 3 months) however we now have the dummy problem as a result!! :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 15:31:44 pm
Ta Daaaaa!!! Luke slept all night!  He woke up at 5:15 am, whimpered for about 15 minutes and was out again until AFTER 7!  I left at 7:15 for work and he was still sleeping!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 29, 2005, 16:33:48 pm
:oops:SORRY THIS IS REALLY LONG  :oops:

I really think the paci is a big problem too.  It seems like the nights that we tried not to give it to him he slept better.   We were getting on a really nice night time thing but then for some reason it all crumbled...and it was gradual.  I sympythize with you all.  We ha ve been dealing with the same issues for 3 months now.  I finally gave in to feeding him the 1st time he wakes up and he always takes a full meal.  Then one night he slept for 4.5 hours with out eating (before he turned 2 months he would eat at 8/8:30ish and then not again until 1:30 and then 4:30 and then up and eat at 7:30) so I know he can go for a long period with out eating.  So this is what our routine looks like.

7:30 Up
7:45 Eat (BF)
9:30 Nap (one hour)
11:00 Eat (BF)
12:30 Nap (30 min)
2:15 Eat (BF)
3:00 Nap (usually in swing for 1.5 hours, when I pray hard)
5:30 Eat (BF and cereal mixed with veggies)
7:30 Bath
8:00 Eat (BF)
Bed right after
11:30/12:00 (BF)
(Wakes about 2 times between)
4:00 (BF)
(Wakes about 2 times)
 
Some times his naps get turned around and his mid day nap is his long nap and then his afternoon nap is a 30 min.  It depends on what we are doing and where we are and what ever.  Some times his morning nap is only 30min if we are out and about too.

I really want to get rid of the paci for sleeping but I think he has started teething.  Also he has gotten into a "wake up in the early morning and look around and if I don't get my paci I want to play" routine.  But if I give him the paci he is up every 30 min after that until I feed him.  The big thing is that he is still rolling himself over at night and wakes himself up and needs help back over and resettling. I've tried the wedge and rolled up receiving blankets but he still gets over all that.  I think if he didn't do that he would only wake 2x instead of 5x.  He can roll back over when he's awake and has a toy he wants but other wise he won't.

Okay, if you've read this far then you will get a little bit of advice from my experience.  Take it or leave it. 
It seems that the majority of babies (90%) go through a stage where they take 30-45min naps and wake 5-6x a night.  If this is the case...then this must be the way God made them and we just need to go with the flow.  As soon as I accepted this I just followed Jency's cues.  This is the routine we got into and it works for US.  That is the key...do what works for YOU and your FAMILY, then you will all be happy.  The 2 hour morning nap just doesn't work for us, with church and mom goups and errands in the morning it just works better for him to take 2 shorter naps in the morning and mid day.  I would love for him to sleep for 1.5-2 hours in the afternoon though.  This we are working on and it seems that the only time he will is if he is in the swing.  My SIL said that my neice only tooke 30-60 min naps but now at 18 months she takes one 2-3 hour nap.  So they WILL grow out of this.  I have heard that sleeping is also a developemental thing and they just need to get to the milestone in their own time as well as everything else.  Jency has now gotten past the 30-45 min nap thing some times but not always and will go 60 min.
I hope this helps.

SORRY SO LONG! :oops:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 29, 2005, 16:35:26 pm
oh ya:  AMY!!  How did you do it!!  Please let us know!!!
Did you get rid of the paci?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 16:44:14 pm
I DID get rid of the paci!  I had been thinking that the darn thing falling out was what was waking him up, but as it turns out, he wasn't all the way in his deep sleep cycle and the fact that it was IN his mouth was what was making him wake up (we think  :wink: ).  So, yesterday afternoon before his cat nap, he screamed bloody murder for 45 minutes.  I went in and did Pu/PD.  He'd calm down and then scream again, so I would do the PU/PD again.  This finally stopped after a while and he slept for an hour.  Then he got up, had veggies, a bottle, and a bath and was down for the night at 8:00.  He only fussed a tiny bit before bedtime.  The key is to NOT GIVE IN!!!!!  I do NOT believe in letting them Cry it out, but some tears were inevitable!  I just kept going in and letting him know that it was ok.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on November 29, 2005, 18:43:56 pm
Congrats on dropping the paci!!! I wish I could say I had good news but it seems my lo is regressing still. He was going down easy for all naps and bedtime was a nightmare. He didn't sleep for 7 hours yesterday. Woke up from 2 nap and never wennt back to sleep. It took me an hour last nap and I ended up rocking him for a little bit because he would not stop screaming. Nonstop the whole hour. I rock him for 2 minutes and he passes out. I'm going to take that rocker and hide it so I can't give in.

Anyone else doing this? I think he is/was teething but he stopped fussing about it so I wasn't worried. I don't know.

I really don't want to start over. When does it get better?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 18:57:35 pm
I think rocking is fine...especially when they're screaming their brains out!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 20:13:25 pm
Claire!  Where are you?  We've been missing updates on your little ones!

Anybody have their kid in a door jumper yet?  I want to put Luke in his, but he can't sit up by himself yet.  Is that ok?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on November 29, 2005, 21:12:36 pm
Daisymelan- I sent you a private message!

Amystoker- We started using the dorr jumperoo when Jake could hold his head up good, about four months. I don't think they have to be sitting up yet. He only likes it for a little while, hasn't sat in it too long!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on November 29, 2005, 22:49:43 pm
You can always ease him into it.
I started (because I like to, we didn't have to) rocking Jency for his quite time before naps.  I will give him the paci and rock him for how ever long it takes.  As soon as I feel him relax and start to drift I take out the paci then when his eyes first start to shut I walk into his bedroom draw the blinds turn on the humidifier kiss him and lay him down.  I usually get a little cry out of him as I lay him down but then as soon as he hits the mattress he is out.  (I haven't been doing this lately, he has just been falling asleep so much faster and he ends up falling asleep while I rock with the paci in :oops: .  I need to work on it.)  Anyway, you could try this and then every week put him down a little more awake (unless you like rocking him for awhile like I do).  At night I nurse him and then we go into his room and I hold him while I sing him some songs and then right before the last verse of the last song I lay him down and pat him while I sing the last verse.  Sometimes he is already mostly asleep other times after I'm done singing he has to toss and turn a while and then settles in and I pat him again for a minute. 
let me know if you try this and if it starts to work for ya.
Wish I had some advice on the night wakings and getting longer naps but all I know is to resort to the swing.

I was bad today.  Jency woke up around 7:30 and then was cranky at 9:00 (which is when we usually start the calm down rocking thing) but he was out by 9:15 (usually takes 30 min)  then he only slept until 10:00.  So I got him up and then we went out and he fell asleep at 11:30 in the car.  Then when we got home I left him there but he woke up at 11:50.  Then we played and went for a walk and he fell asleep on the way back at 1:45.  Then I wheeled him into my room and I laid down and kept waking up to check on him but he didn't wake up again until he got hungry at 3:00 (usually a 3 hour baby but this was 4 hours!)  So I fed him and then slipped the paci in and put him in the swing and he went right to sleep.  I made cookie dough and then went and took out his paci and he is still asleep at 3:45.  I know that was bad but I didn't want him waking up at 3:00 and then wanting to go back down at 5:00!  So I"m hoping he will sleep until 4:30.  I have to go out to night (first time) so he will be eating again at 5:30 (2.5 hours) because he doesn't take a bottle.  Oh well I have to be home by 8pm to feed him before bed anyway.  This past 2 days have been all screwed up!! :x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on November 29, 2005, 23:54:41 pm
Congrats Amy!  Good for you.

Thank you all for your advice and thoughts.

Owen loves his Jumparoo!  He spends 20 minutes at a time in it.  LOVES IT!!!  WE've been doing it for about 2 weeks now.

Today has'nt been great, but ok.  Mentally i'm pretty tough right now, but i'm not sure how many more nights I'll hold out.  And we have 4 month needles tomorrow to boot.  sigh

See you in a few days BJ.

Alison:  Be tough, you can do it!!!

Question:  are mobiles, etc props?  And if they are, are they ok props?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 29, 2005, 23:57:09 pm
Luke LOVES the jumper!  What a riot!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on November 30, 2005, 03:13:11 am
What is the weight limit on your jumpers? Aiden is 19-20 lbs  and 27 inch. I want to get him one or something like it but the ones I have seen have low weight limit.

I hate bedtime. His Daddy is home tonight(thank god) so he is trying to put him to sleep.  It has been one hour so far. Pray for us.

I have actually been rocking him prenap time. Just till he is drowsy. Otherwise he will fight and fight. Touchy and spirted as well. We need a support group.  At night rocking didn't work. He was, so long ago, eating till drowsy and I would lay him in his bed and he was out. Now until yesterday I would feed him rock him everything and he wouldn't calm down. Yesterday he would but he would scream as soon as I stop rocking.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on November 30, 2005, 03:43:02 am
The weight limit on our jumper is 26lbs
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on November 30, 2005, 15:38:16 pm
Tom Loves his door jumper aswell. We dont let him have it more than 30 mins but hed happily stay in it all day if we let him!!! When hes not in it he spends most of his time jumping up and down on our laps! (i think i need to borrow some of his energy :wink: ). Ours doent't seem to have a weight limit (its toys r us own brand) and just says it can be used until hes walking (although i think ill stop when he can stand holding onto something other than me or DH!

Still using dummy when he fall asleep, but managed to calm him without popping it in  most of the time last night so thats a step in the right direction!

Amy... hope your lo is keeping up the good work!

Gotta go DS getting hungry now!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 01, 2005, 03:49:09 am
We've just finished a successful day number 3 with no paci and no wakings for 13 hours (yes!!!!  13 hours!!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 01, 2005, 13:55:55 pm
Amy, I am sooooooo envious!!!!  13 hours?  WOWIE

Here it's a different story.  Had a rough day yesterday and it took an hour or so to settle owen.  We then grabbed him before he woke at 11 for a DF and guess what?  The little guy didn't wake until 7:30 this morning.  No 13 hours, but I'll take it!  It's the longest we've ever had!!!  Maybe it was the tylenol we have him for his needles. 

But maybe it's becuase he was on a  pretty solid 4 hr EASY.  This was suggested by Jennifer or jswerczek.  THANK YOU.  I know it's only one night, but that's fine.  I just waited until he was super tired to put him down and we didn't have as much fussing as before.  And only 5 feeds in a 24 hour period.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU   ....  A babywhisperer extrodinaire she is.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 01, 2005, 14:28:32 pm
Sorry, one more thing....

Amy, did you sleep well during those 13 hours?  I know that I didn't sleep well.  From about 3 on I kept waking because I was certain he was just about to wake up.  And then I started thinking....  is he still breathing?  So i would turn my monitor up full so I could hear him breathing!  LOL

How about any other moms?  Do you sleep well when you lo decides to actually have a nice long sleep?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 01, 2005, 15:18:36 pm
oh i wanted to defend myself (not trying to be mean or rude or anything, just imformative).  I check out the formulas again and found what I was talking about.  Because, at the time, Jency was so gassy we thought that maybe one of the lactose free or soy based formulas would be the best.  So I looked at those again and sure enough it says the #1 ingredience (43%-55%) is Corn Syrup Solid.  I looked at the other formulas and they do not have that so it is just the lactose free and soy based.
Sorry for the confusion!

Also all the night wakings could be due to the 6th month growth spurt they are have or are about it hit.  So I decided since we will be going through that in no time I was just going to go with the flow and not try to get Jency to sleep longer.  Right now he is only waking 3 times and if I feed him he goes right back down if I don't he wants the paci and wakes ever 30 min when it falls out and if we don't give him that he cries for (well we've only let it last 30 min) who knows how long.  So I am just going to feed him every 3 hours at night and hope after the 6 month growth spurt he will just grow out of it.

I would love to go to 4 hour EASY but it is so hard when we have church every sunday morning and Mom's group every other Friday morning.  So his naps complete are not 4 hour easy.  And if I let him go 4 hours between feedings (which he will do)  then it ends up that he gets fed right before a nap.
Any advice on this?  PM me! THanks.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 01, 2005, 17:01:06 pm
Did I EVER sleep well!!  We turned off the monitor in our bedroom and left the one on in the kitchen....when he really cries we can definitely hear him, but when he's just grunting or getting settled, we snooze right through it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 01, 2005, 18:00:35 pm
Hey ladies!  Sorry to join in so late, but I feel like I just come to the website to read, and as soon as I want to post ds wakes, or the washing machine is done, yada yada yada  :?  I only post when its an emergency almost!

Anywhoo, ds is 5 months and 1 week and so far we have run into the regular problems, growth spurts, milestones etc.  For the most part I follow the BW advice down to the letter, except for one thing.

My ds is very VERY spirited, and the 11 o'clock dreamfeed was waking him up and it took me forever to get him down again.  Then he would have a fitful sleep until morning.  So I decided to eliminate it and go back to cluster feeding.  He's on a 4 hour schedule, except for the late afternoon.  His day goes like this:

6:30 wake up and plays in his crib
7:00 feed
7:15 activity
9:00 nap
11:00 feed
11:15  activity
1:00 nap
3:00 feed
3:15 activity
4:00 snack (fruit juice or compote)
6:00 feed
6:45 catnap
7:00 wakes
7:30 bath and massage
8:00 feed and bed



Since I started doing the 6 and 8 feed he's been sleeping through the whole night no problems!  but I can't help but to feel that I'm doing something wrong.  That he will be depent on those 2 feeds.  I've tried to extend his time on my breast but when he's done HE'S DONE.  He pushes me away and wants to play.  He drains my breast in about 4-6 minutes which had me worried but he's gaining weight, growing and very very happy.  But still, what should I do so that I don't have to cluster feed ( and create accidental parenting ) but without having to do the ever waking dreamfeed?


Thanks!  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 01, 2005, 21:29:55 pm
I think it is fine.  I feed Jency when ever I want.  We usually have to go 3-3.5 hours even thought he can go 4 hours.  This is because of his naps.  His morning naps are just really short.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 01, 2005, 22:34:04 pm
TWO teeth....I guess Luke got his Christmas wish early....get it?  "All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth..."  :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: seaflower on December 02, 2005, 08:14:16 am
I haven't managed to catch up on all posts, but just a quick question. we got rid of the paci almost 2 weeks ago, no major problems, but since then the got very moany as she is teething... so i ended up having her in our bed and feeding her everytime when she cries, which is every hour! I've juts substituted one problem with another... and to be honest not sure where to start from dealing with it...

Amy, congtatulations on the night sleep!! How long did he sleep for beforehand?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 02, 2005, 14:32:40 pm
He'd sleep until about 3 or 3:30 and then he was up almost every 30 minutes to an hour.  Now he sleeps straight through with no problems.  I say that, but last night he woke up at 1:30 b/c he couldn't breathe and we needed to suck the snot out  :roll: But he was a chipper little man at 6am!  He was sleeping until 7
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 02, 2005, 15:26:50 pm
rabecaq,      i agree the cluster feeding is probably fine at the mo (unless its driving YOU nuts). As long as its not causing your lo any obvious problems and your happy with it dont change what isnt broken (i dont think your doing acidental parenting as you dont feed to sleep the rest of the day! We use to cluster feed, and only changed to DF because i felt all i was doing all evening was feeding!! Tom had no probs dropping the cluster feed as we did it gradually (making the earlyer one gradually later and the later one gradually earlier until they met in the middle!!) so its probably not doing any harm. Most people give up the DF at 6 or 7 months anyway, so you could aim to drop the cluster feeding about that time if it worrys you (when lo firmly established on solids shouilnt need it to get through night anyway!)

daisymelan,      if it makes you feel any better, i wake whenever ds usually wakes (about 3.30am...)even if he doesnt aswell :roll:  I swear sometimes he only wakes because i disturb him tossing and turning trying to get back to sleep! :oops:

amy stoker   i think i may try not using ther baby monitor when tom goes into his own room, did you leave the bedroom doars open or could you hear your lo with them shut??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 02, 2005, 17:36:52 pm
Our house is a split floor plan.  The Master bedroom is on the north side of the house, then the kitchen, living room and then the guest bedroom and Luke's room.  I have the monitor on in the kitchen and I leave my bedroom door open.  We did have the monitor in our room until this Monday, and MAN have I slept well since we moved it out!  We hear him when he really cries, but we don't hear when he's grunting and fussing just to get comfortable.  I think HE sleeps better, too, because we don't run in for every grunt and rumble.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 02, 2005, 18:48:59 pm
Hey Alison Toms Mum, I have no prob with cluster feeding, considering the response is an 11 hour strech of night sleep!! ;) I was planning on eliminating it slowly as soon as solids were well established.  He's going through the trial phase right now.

The ped has me giving him non-citric fruit juice ( made fresh ) for 3 days, if he has no yucky reactions ( constipation or allergies ) then we eliminate the juice and give him homemade compotes, again made from fresh fruits.  She'd rather compotes than juice so he won't figure out the the bottle is easier than my breasts!!

I've actually been experimenting with the compotes today, and I feel like I've been peeling fruit and cooking all morning!! :lol: And I came to the conclusion that steaming the fruit for 8 mins and then pureeing it makes the best compote, tastes better, better consistensy, lasts longer and still has all the nutritional value!! 8)

So, as soon as he's eating compotes twice a day I going to slowly eliminate the cluster feed!!

  :D Thanks for the support

Amystoker, we have a voice activated monitor and it's great because you don't have the constant reminder of the monitor.  So we just turned the volume down enough so when it's a " NEED HELP!" cry we hear it, but the drawn out conversations ds has with his mobile and stuffed animals! ;)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 02, 2005, 19:49:18 pm
Hi all!
We are back and I sure missed being on here! I think I read most of the posts to bring me up to date.

Caeden is teething again - I think - very grumpy and was gnawing on everything while we were gone. Nights have been all over the place. Ranging from great to awful. I am hoping now that we are home and out of the old house things will settle down and he can get into a god routine during the day and thus help the nights too.

Caeden got his first food - rice ceral - last night - loved it :D  :D  :D
Ate real good and got most of it down too. How often are you all feeding solids? I am thinking I will do morning and evening.......is that okay you think?

I also just got a glider rocker for Caeden's room - FINALLY :wink:
I am hoping by keeping him in the same place now for feeds and quiet time and going back to bed at night it will help him. I have been feeding wherever and going back and forth to the living room couch at night.

Caeden is also rolling ALL OVER - one side of the room to the other and  just yesterday went to get a toy he wanted by himself. So cute - he plays real well on the floor and I can get alot done!

SO - that's the update from here - have a great evening or day!

Oh - Amy - I am so jealous of 13 hours...... I have been thankful for 3 solid hours at a time and am aiming for at least 6 soon!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 02, 2005, 20:03:17 pm
Well, don't be TOO jealous b/c last night he woke up twice b/c of a snot-plugged nose (Hey, I'll take twice over every 30 minutes!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 03, 2005, 04:20:58 am
Hi Guys,

Only a quick minute but I wanted to say we had to take Owen to an after hours clinic tonight because the tip of his penis was red and swollen.   :cry: ... and there was some whitish stuff coming out.

It didnt' bother him one iota.

But I'll tell you, dh and I were a mess.... me especailly.  He has an infection and we have to wash it out and put polysporin on it!  :(  I was so grossed out when the dr was looking at it and showing us, that I couldn't look.  The dr then made me!!!  But I had to look to know how to clean it.

We use cloth diapers and thought that might be it, but the dr assured us it's normal and it would have happened with disposables. 

He is fine and it should be cleared by Monday.  I swear, it's been a rough few days.  I have read all posts but will catch up tomorrow morning.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 03, 2005, 07:21:42 am
Well ive just had the best nights sleep in ages... i dyed my hair last night, and my head smelt so strongly we didnt want to poison DS lungs, so i slept in the spare room :wink:  :D  Poor DH Tom still has a cold, so he was up with him A LOT last night, on de snoting duty (Howd you work one of those suction things anyeay... we couldn't fig it out so end up attacking him with a tissue and nose drops!!)

sorry your lo is unwell daisymelan, my friends lo has had that, the dr asked her to take a urine sample (i thought that might be quite difficult but aparently theres a special type of nappy to catch it  :oops: )

Glad your starting to feel settled Cadensmama I hate moving at the best of times so i dont envy you!!

BTW i love my new hair, i feel less scruffy and mummsy than i have since tom was born... horay for home hair colouring kits (hairdresser a luxury i can no longer afford!!) :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 03, 2005, 12:43:01 pm
Hi Daisymelan,

Is your ds circumsized?  I'm wondering because ours isn't and when he was about 2 months old he got an infection on his penis also.  The doc told me I caught it early but it could have gotten really nasty!  He had me wash him EVERY time we changed his diaper and then apply an anti-bacterial ointment.  I think the main thing is to clean it like crazy until it heals.  And baby boys who aren't circumsized need ALOT of special care.

I hope it clears up soon!!


BTW --  I left ds with my dh last night, and he totally forgot to do the cluster feeding.  He ate at 3 had a compote of pears at 5 had his bath at 7, and then at 7:30 fell asleep with his feed.  When dh told me I said "OH NO!!! "  :shock:  I reminded him about the cluster feeding and how that was helping him sleep through the night.  So we went to be ready for the rude awakening!  Lo and behold he slept 12 hours!! YAY!!!  When I heard him and saw the daylight I was thrilled!!  My little man in growing up!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 03, 2005, 15:58:00 pm
Daisymelan- I hope Owen is feeling better! I'm always on the look out for that with Jake. When he was first born, his penis was a little blue and their was some discharge. The doctor said it might get infected in the future, but so far we've been lucky. Poor little guys!

Rebecaq- I'm glad your little one went all night without the clusterfeeding! I'm sure you didn't sleep well though :) We just dropped the df about a week ago and the first few nights I laid awake just waiting for him to wake up! He didn't and probably got better sleep than I did!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 04, 2005, 00:56:52 am
Owen is doing great and thanks for your conern.  BTW, he isn't circumsized so I guess I will have to be very careful from here on in.  It's almost completely healed.  I even went out last night after his drs apt because I had already planned a girls night out.  Only stayed out until 11:30 cuz I felt guilty, but it still felt good to get out and speak to adults. 

He's been napping and sleeping much better lately, so thanks to all for your help.  I slept better last night when he woke to feed at 3:30 than I did the night he slept through...   :?

Welcome back caeden's mom. 
Welcome to Rebecaq and I want your baby monitor. 

Question:  Those of you who are bfing....  Have you noticed a difference in your breasts?  I swear that in the past 2 days mine have seriously started to change shape, and I mean for the worse.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 05, 2005, 03:33:46 am
Hello everyone!  I want to know who has their Christmas shopping all done so I can give you a big raspberry!   :wink:

Hubby and I went out of town for one night for our anniversary.  Grandma came and stayed with Luke and they both had a ball!  She couldn't believe that I had a baby that you could put in his bed at naptime/bedtime and he would just go to sleep!  HOORAY!!!!!!!

Has anyone dropped the dreamfeed?  I don't have Tracy's second book and I can't find the first one at the moment to see how to do it.   I don't know that he still needs it, but I don't want to just take it away cold turkey.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 05, 2005, 11:55:10 am
Daisymelan, I got my baby monitor at Babies R' Us, it's by Sony and called "BabyCall", it's a real good one.  My cousin as baby monitors at her house and I still prefer to take mine when I go!  :wink:

Amystoker, Chrisstmas shopping done? Now? Not at the last minute?? Is that even allowed???  LOL :lol:  The only thing I have bought is the secrest santa present for my dh's office party!
About the dreamfeed, I had to stop them becuase ds is so acitve it was ryling him up and would take me forever to get him back to sleep.  I USED to cluster feed ( I put it in caps becuase I'm excited we stopped about 3 days ago!) but he's been sleeping fine without it!  But I have the last book and here is what is says word for word


The process of cutting out the dreamfeed - usually around 7 months - has to be done in 3 day increments, to insure that your baby makes up during the day what you're taking away at night:

Day 1: Add 1 ounce to the 1st feed of the day and take away 1 ounce from the dreamfeed that night.  If you're breast-feeding, go back to clustering so that you get more calories in.  Give the dreamfeed ( now 1 ounce less) half an hour earlier, at 10:30 instead of 11

Day 4:  Add 1 ounce to the first feed, one to the second, and take away 2 ounces from the dreamfeed.  Give the dreamfeed (2 ounces less) at 10.

Day 7:  Add 1 ounce to the first feed, one to the second, one to the third, take away ounces from the dreamfeed, and give at 9 :30

Days 10 (dreamfeed at 9 p.m.), 14 (8:30), 17 (8 ), 20 (7:30) : By continuing every 3 days to add ounces during the day and take away the same amount from the dreamfeed, you will end up doing a feed at 7:30 with only a few ounces.



Whew, my fingers hurt now!! Hope I was helpful!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 05, 2005, 12:34:44 pm
Thanks.
I thought I remembered that that was how to do it.  Unfortunately, I have a reflux baby and adding more to his already 7 oz bottle will be a disaster!  I took two ounces off the df last night.  He usually takes 7 oz at the dreamfeed, so last night he took 5.  Tonight I will go down to 3 or 4 and see how that goes.  He didn't wake up once.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 05, 2005, 13:05:28 pm
Hi everyone!!!!  I'm back!!!!!!!

Have been popping on every now and again to check on everyone, but today I actually have time to say hello.

Move is done, kinda.  Tomorrow we are going back to the old house to load up all of the stuff that just didn't make it with the original trip.  Like my FREEZER!!!!!!!  We are supposed to close on the property next monday (a week...one more blessed week), so it we can do that, Christmas this year will be SO much fun!!

Amy-only have the children bought for.  They are done.  Dh and I are not shopping for one another till the property sells just to insure that we aren't "wasting" money that we would actually need for say....property taxes, or house notes.  :roll:   I guess I shouldn't be greedy, I do have a new house.  But man....some furniture would be swell!!  :lol:

Bad mommy award goes to me.  Cait hasn't had cereal in days.  The first 3 nights of being in the new house were hectic.  She would wake at midnight and not go back down totally until around 3am :shock:   Luckily, it was just an adjustment period, because now she is back on her normal schedule, we just haven't been home to give cereal.  I am hoping this week that we can get into some kind of routine and get back into normal living.  We will see.

About dropping the dreamfeed.  Do it on a Friday or Saturday night when you dont' have to go to work the next day and see how Luke does.  You might be surprised.

Since I am behind on posts, I won't respond to everyone's old posts, but if anyone had a specific question that maybe I could help with feel free to ask me (I sound as though I am the "all knowing" don't I :roll: )  Anyway, I just try to help. 

So glad to be back.  OH...and I have DSL now!!!!  So excited.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 05, 2005, 15:47:52 pm
We dropped the df cold turkey a little over a week ago. I was going to slowly do it like the book suggests, but we thought we see what would happen if we just took it away. We did it on a night that my husband didn't have to work in the morning, just in case he woke during the night. He slept straight through and has since! We were only giving him 4-5 oz. at the dreamfeed and now that we are giving him 4-6 oz. of solids, I figured he was ready. I suppose if I had been giving a full feed, I may have had to do it more gradual. I'll tell you its great to be done :) Now my husband and I can go to bed at the same time and as early as 8:30pm if we want :)

Good luck Amy!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 05, 2005, 17:38:31 pm
I am the bad mommy on the board.  I am so sorry to let all of you down.  Jency is still not on a 4 hour easy and I can not get him to nap good and he is still up at least 3 times a night.  I know I have done everything wrong but with the way things are it is hard to go by the book.  I have no idea how to get him to sleep in his crib for 2 hours at a time for naps.  I have no idea how to get him to sleep at night and I have no idea how to get him to eat every 4 hours.  Okay I know how I just don't seem to be able to do it.  Right now he sleeps in the swing for naps (because that is the only place he will sleep more then 30 min when he wants.  Some times it's 30 min there too) he takes a short morning nap and a short mid day nap and I try to get a long afternoon nap.  He eats every 3 hours because if I try the 4 hours it messes up with all the short naps and stuff.  Then he is also grumpy in the evening from having to be up for 4 hours.  I don't know what to do.  I can't put him down sooner becuase of DH getting home so late I can't get hte feeds to 4 hours because of naps and I can't get his naps longer!!!!! :x  :x  I don't know what to do with his night wakes either!!
I am sorry I am the black sheep of the bunch.  I just wish my lo was as good as you alls are.  I guess I will be leaving the board since I am not doing things the way Tracy would say to do it.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 05, 2005, 17:44:08 pm
okay tell me if this is good or bad.
Jency got up around 7:45 this morning.  I got him up and dressed then gave him some applesauce and nursed around 8:00am.  Then I put him in the swing at 9:40 and he talked to himself and was out at 9:45am (he always talks to himself before he falls asleep in the swing.  in the crib he just cries).  He woke at the 45 min time but I left him there and ignored him and he talked to himself for 10 min and fell back asleep.  Is this good or bad?  Should I continue doing this?  I know you will probably say to put him in his crib and then at the 45 min mark just leave him in there and let him cry but I just can't.  If I go in he wants up and out and wouldn't lay back down.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 05, 2005, 17:55:03 pm
The only advice I have for you is this...
Be consistent!!!  Do the SAME thing at the SAME time and Jency will get used to it and adjust.  YOU set the schedule for a while and see how that works.  It will be hard.  There will be tears.  BUT if you want Jency to sleep in the crib and you want longer naps and you want sleeping through the night, it's something you'll have to do.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 05, 2005, 18:56:36 pm
I don't think leaving the board is neccesary, we are all here to help each other out, not to go on and on or brag that our babies are "good".  Being on a schedule doesn't make them good or bad, actually all babies are good!  :D.

I didn't have ds on E.A.S.Y. until he was 3 months and it was HELL getting him on it.  He used to nurse to sleep, eat whenever he wanted and get up like 4 times a night.  I even thought that Tracy's schedule was kind of strict.  But the more I read the book, the more I realized it was all about routine not schedule.  I also realized that it was to ensure he got enough calories during the day in order to get him to sleep through the night.  And as lovely feeding on demand is, when they get older is creates chaos.  I guess it becuase babies have so much going on internally (discovering the world, themselves, physical and social milestones etc) that if their outside world is structured it helps them out.   

If you're serious about putting him on E.A.S.Y. you need to stick with it and like Amy said, be consitent!  Also, don't try to change everything at once, it will be too overwhelming for both of you.  Go with what you consider most important.  And if you want him to eat every 4 hours, do it gradually, not from one day to the other.  I did it by pushing his feed back by 15 minutes every 2 days.

About keeping baby up for dh to see him, hmmmmmm, I told my dh I wasn't going to do that.  I thought it was unfair to keep a tired baby up.  So they have their special cuddle and bonding time in the morning.  Do you think something like that may work for you guys?

I know I just joined this forum on a regular basis, but I don't consider you or anybody the black sheep.  We all have different personalities and parenting styles!  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 05, 2005, 19:42:26 pm
welcome back bj and congrats on the dsl.  I think my head would spin if I had to go back to dial up! lol

Adria, I agree with amy and rebeca...  it just needs to be consistency.  Sometimes I go mad because I'd rather be out visiting at night or go to a friends during the day, but I have to think of my lo.  Once I get him on scedule for a few days, I do make trips more and mess up his schedule a bit, but only after he's settled into his routine so he doesn't get too confused.  I think that if you are serious about using BW and want Jency to be on it, you will have to allocate a week or so and stick with it to see if he will adapt.  This is only a week, not a very long time in the scheme of things.... and I think it's worht it.  Well, I should say it was worth it for me.  I now have much more sanity as he is down for two solid naps a day. 

I also had troubles with ds using his swing, but it was worth getting him into the crib.  I think the longer you wait, the more trouble it will be.... also, he's getting older, so changing things will become more difficult.  Also, he's likely going to have to stop using it soon if it's like mine and has a weight restriction on it.

To be honest, I just think that you should either take what you want from the book and use it, or don't... it's up to you.  No one on here is judging you becuase you chose to use it or not.  I just think that if you aren't willing to go through the head aches (and there will be those) to get him on a routine, then don't expect him to go on one.  He only knows what you teach him.

You are a loving mama who is trying her best.  I loved BW and found it helped me out huge.  Perhaps it doesn't work for everyone, that's fine.  Just know that we are here for support and we've all been there.... or close to there.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 06, 2005, 16:03:45 pm
adria
sweetie don't feel bad at all!  it was misery getting my lo on 4 hr easy.  I thought it would never work and then one day it just clicked...and then a few days later a bit more until it all fell into place.  there were times when dd cried and i felt horrible but as long as u r there for your lo and comforting him it will be worth it - for both of you! as was said just go slow 15 min at a time...and just a suggestion maybe stop with the solids for a little bit so he can get more calories from feedings and then slowly add solids back in. as far as sleeping goes - my lo FINALLY takes 2 -2 hr naps and a catnap(usually) in the evening but that took a lot of hard ( i won't pretend otherwise! :? )...and the naps are FINALLY in her crib.  i would go through her routine before naptime and then she would wake up as soon as i laid her in the crib, then i would do pu/pd FOREVER until she stopped crying and fell asleep and then she would wake up 20-30 min later and i would do it all over again.  it takes hard work and commitment but u can do it if u really want to like the other ladies said just be consistent and he will re-learn what u want him to, i know from dd, some lo's are more resistant than others...and i never let my lo cio in her crib or anywhere else, pu/pd worked well at this point b/c sh/pat is way too stimulating for her now.  as far as nighttime sleep i am a bit envious of everyone on the boards as well  :wink:  it's probably b/c i let dd sleep with me at night ... no u are not the only bad mommy ... but she still wakes 1-4 times a night always different times but she also takes full feeds and there is nothing i can do to get her to eat more during the day so i will just live with it for now...at least until i start letting her sleep in her crib at night too.  anyway sweetie, don't be so hard on yourself - being a first time mother is a learning process, there are no RULES you HAVE to go by - you make the rules!  going by bw, is supposed to be guidelines to make your life a little more managable, it's ultimately your choice what to, and not to do!  cut yourself a little slack girl!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 06, 2005, 17:04:06 pm
THanks all.

Do you think it's okay if he takes a short nap in the morning and one in the mid day and then a long afternoon one?  And stays on 3 hour feedings?

Do any of you have mom groups and church in the mornings on some days of the week?  Do your little ones take 2 hour naps when you are out like that or do they take short ones?  And do they go back to the 2 hour naps during the rest of the week?

I have MOPS on friday's from 9-11 and then church on sundays from 10:30-12 and then we go out to eat with DH family until about 1:30.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 06, 2005, 18:34:55 pm
if you are going out just wing it!  it's easier once a routine is well established but as long as u stay consistant at home all should be well.  my lo takes cat naps when we are at church or shopping and then when we get home i just read her signs and if she's tired i put her to bed.  it does throw off the routine for the rest of the day usually but most importantly just read your lo's signs - they will tell u what they need. as far as the rest of the week goes we usually go right back to our regular routine.  as for length of naps, if your lo seems happy and not tired right after he gets up then it should be fine.  every baby is different remember!  for awhile my lo would would have a long morning nap and two short afternoon naps, then she started changing progressively when we went on 4 hr easy.  i think lo's have 45 min sleep cycles or so - just make sure your lo is truly rested and just not being able to self soothe back to sleep when he is going through his first cycle.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 06, 2005, 20:12:24 pm
I have Mommy and Me classes with ds 3 times a week, Tue Wed Fri, they're all in the morning so it's not that much of a routine buster.  I just make sure that I don't alter feeding times, so he doesn't nurse to sleep.  His naps that day are a little screwy, but by the late afternoon he's doing better and takes bedtime with stride.

I think mom groups are essencial, being home wth baby all day can make someone kind of looney after a while.  So grown-up company is greatly needed.  Plus, you can discuss spitting up and poop with people who won't look at you like your gross or insane!!  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 06, 2005, 21:17:15 pm
I think by this age, babies should be able to go four hours between feeds regardless of the naps. My little one doesn't always sleep up until the next feeding time, so he will play until it is time to eat. If you are offering a full feed (6-8 oz.) then his tummy shouldn't be hungry three hours later, unless he is going through a growth spurt. I can't imagine he would take a full feed three hours later, he may get a tummy ache or not feed as long!

As for the naps, as long as your little one is rested and happy, I don't think the amount and length of naps is that big of a deal. If he does fine on a few short ones and a longer one, or whatever, he is getting what he needs. If he is waking up cranky or fussy, then he may not be getting enough sleep. As for how long they are... as long as your not feeding to sleep and he is waking up happy, then let him do his thing.

If I were you, I'd really work on getting him out of the swing and in to his crib, or wherever he sleeps. I can't imagine he takes the best nap in the swing, I know I wouldn't! They are little people and need to sleep in their own beds. You can use pu/pd to get him used to the crib, and maybe it would help with extending naps.

As for outings... I too struggle with this and going off of routine, so we do not do much. I figure soon enough he will be staying up longer and we'll be able more. I kind of hold his naps and sleep sacred because I know what a bear he can be when he hasn't napped well. At least for my little one, catnaps in the car and while we are out just don't cut it like when he has a good solid nap at home. We try to do thing between naps as much as we can. I know I could use more outings... (and grown up conversations  :) ) but I need to do what is best for my ds and before I know it, there will be lots of time for those things.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 06, 2005, 22:19:40 pm
Jennifer, are you a mind reader?

DITTO THAT!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 06, 2005, 22:20:31 pm
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I know I could use more outings... (and grown up conversations  ) but I need to do what is best for my ds and before I know it, there will be lots of time for those things.

Geez, I went to see my shrink today and this sounds exactly what I'm dealing with.  Happy to know I'm not alone and it's nice to be reminded that it's not forever.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 07, 2005, 11:15:04 am
I think you need to decide weather to deal with the feeding every 4 hrs or the napping in swing first Adria, as you can only do one thing at a time. I would personally go for extending easy first, as hell nap better once youve done that...  Put your LO to sleep at a reg time ( you prob know how long he can go between sleeps before he gets narky and dont worry if its not quite easy.. tom also does easae! as long as your consistant) and dont panick about how long the nap is .

 i tried EVERYTHING to extend toms naps and ended up in tears at least once every day. i felt like such a failure, and like other people on the internet were judging me.. although they probably werent... :oops:  i was such a mess i wasnt being a good mummy. so i stoped trying to extend the naps tom needs less sleep than many babies, and concentrated on ensuring he never went longer than 2.45 hrs between finishing one nap and going down for the next (this is his tolerence level.. long i know but thats the way it is!) this makes easy easyae but i was CONSISTANT and i felt that was important. now im much happier and mirical of miricals tom often extends one of his 3 naps (either the morning or afternoon one) to 1.5 hrs :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: . I guess what im trying to say is parenthood is about joy not doing everything right, so if it works for you dont worry about following easy to the letter (especially if it makes you miserable) just use it as a tool to make life easyer (no pun intended ) for both you and your lo.   :wink:

As for not going to mother and baby groups i really admire all you mums that are able to put your lo first... but im afraid i disrupt toms routine to go to a mum and baby group (the ONLY one in our area) once a week slap bang in the middle of his usual nap :oops: . I wont feel too guilty though as altjhough it disrupts his routine he venjoys iot (he often giggles through most of it) and it gives ME such a boost im a much better mummy for it :D  Again DO WHATS BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR LO

I dont think everythings perfect for any mum, thats not how motherhood works, and its certainly not about judging others OR competing. Im fairly new to this thread aswell, and i have to admit i still feel like an outsider (you all obviously have a really good bond) but i think its really valuble to be able to talk these things through and give eachother support.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 07, 2005, 12:33:05 pm
Anybody else going through an unusual growth spurt?  BJ, Cait and Luke are the same age.  What's up?  He normally takes 7 ounces, but lately, he's taking 10 or 11 oz at his evening bottle and this morning wanted 11 oz again!  We did drop the dream feed and he's doing fine throughout the night.  Should I add an ounce or two to all of his bottles and see what that does?  We've added breakfast now, so he has fruit or veggies three times a day.  The little booger acts like he's starving to death!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 07, 2005, 12:33:59 pm
Hi Alison, I'm new to the thread also!  We can break new ground together!!  About the mommy and me group, I agree with your point of view.....the mommies who can put their lo's routine before them 100% of the time should recieve a standing ovation!  I go because I get cabin fever, need other adult company (other than dh), and I think it's important ds starts to experience the world.  I think it helps he's a spirited baby and he doesn't mind as much if his naps run a little shorter in the morning.  Also the group I go to are classes for the lo's, one is with an instructor who plays guitar and we sing kiddie songs about left/right  up/down etc, and the other one is a massage class.  In fact today we are going to a yoga class that's we do together!  I'm real excited to see what it's like!! :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 07, 2005, 12:36:54 pm
Quote from: amystoker
Anybody else going through an unusual growth spurt?  BJ, Cait and Luke are the same age.  What's up?  He normally takes 7 ounces, but lately, he's taking 10 or 11 oz at his evening bottle and this morning wanted 11 oz again!  We did drop the dream feed and he's doing fine throughout the night.  Should I add an ounce or two to all of his bottles and see what that does?  We've added breakfast now, so he has fruit or veggies three times a day.  The little booger acts like he's starving to death!


I think they have a growth spurt at 6 months, maybe it came a little early...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 07, 2005, 13:35:48 pm
Yes, Cait had about 4 tbls spoons of cereal mixed with formula AND a 10 oz bottle.  I heard her snorting like a little pig through the entire meal.  And quite frankly, she needs to slow down.  She is only 6 mo and already in 12 mo sleepers.  :roll:

Still don't have her a routine where solids are concerned.  I swear, I am going to skip stage one and go straight into stage two if I dont' get on the ball!!!  HHHHHHEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

Will be so glad when we are done with all the moving and selling of the property.    Hopefully then, life will become dull and boring again.  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 07, 2005, 14:17:51 pm
I think Jake is going through a growth spurt, he is pigging out on solids! And I'm not sure how much I should be giving him, but he seems so hungry these days. He will be six months old next Friday, so maybe he is growing a bit. We go to the doctor next week, so hopefully I'll find out how much solid food I should be giving  :)

Is anyone doing three solid meals a day? We are only doing breakfast and dinner, but I find that he is starving for his 3 pm bottle and if I gave a "lunch" he might make it to the bottle. But I am worried about doing too much before the six month mark. I do have a big boy on my hands, so I suppose he needs a little more than the average joe :)

Is anyone baby sitting up yet? I read a lot of things that say by six months, but Jake isn't even close! He just falls right over. I think he is getting extremely bored on his back and now wants me to carry him around.... well hopefully that won't last too long :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 07, 2005, 15:00:25 pm
We don't do solids yet.  Soon I imagine, but I'm still in no rush.  Owen is the runt of the litter in this forum.  (born july 20th)  So also, no growth spurt, but he slept through the night for the second time last night.

I wish we had the money to go to a mom and babies group.  I find we don't have great resources in my city.  I think that a group like that would really help with the isolation I feel.  Both I and DH do not have family within a 12 hour drive, so I find it very difficult.  I do meet up with a friend whose son is 2 months younger, so that helps.

I'm just happy I have all you for support.... although it doesn't get me out, it does help get the emotions out, etc.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 07, 2005, 16:00:18 pm
is anyone having any problems introducing solids?? my dd loves them but they seem to make her soo gassy that she stopped sleeping through the night and woke screaming so i stopped and now i'm slowly introducing them again.  it seems the rice, barley, and oatmeal all make her too gassy...carrots and squash do well, and also pears.  all of the cereals were okay when i first started but after a week or so it backfired somehow.  maybe it's b.c of her reflux?  does anyone else have this prob?? or perhaps on some insight as to what i could be doing wrong???
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 07, 2005, 19:01:56 pm
We're doing breakfast lunch and dinner in the hopes that it will slow down the gulping 11 oz!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 07, 2005, 19:09:02 pm
Quote from: jswerczek

Is anyone doing three solid meals a day? We are only doing breakfast and dinner, but I find that he is starving for his 3 pm bottle and if I gave a "lunch" he might make it to the bottle. But I am worried about doing too much before the six month mark. I do have a big boy on my hands, so I suppose he needs a little more than the average joe :)

Toms doing 3 meals a day.... qand hes STAVING on the lunch one, he sits with his mouth open for more food when hes finished no mater how much i give him. Today he had 6 ice cubes (about 6oz) of savory and 4 ice cubes of rice and apricot and was still hungry!! :roll:  I was also worried about giving him too much before 6 months but my health visitor says he needs it, and as hes nearly 6 months old not to worry 8)
He has baby rice for breactfast (4oz), veg and fruit for lunch and veg for tea (about 5 oz) pluss he still has a 4oz bottle at 7.30, 8oz at 3.30, 8oz at 7.30pm and 8oz dream feed!!! Health visitor told me to cut out lunch time bottle as they tell you to do this at 6 months in uk aparently! I do sometimes cheet and try to give asome bottle at luch aswell, but hes just not interested so i give water with his food, which he loves.

Tom started sitting this time last week!! :D , he had shown no inclinartion to before, and always fell over., then suddenly i sat him up, expecting him to topple and he just stayed for about 20 secs. I was at my mum and baby class and i was going, look, look at him, but most of the babies are a couple of months older so all the mums were looking at me as if to say hes sitting up...so what! :oops:  He can now sit a good 3 or 4 mins before he topples, but he has to be in the right mood... he still preferes to stand up alll the time :?  :? (well at least my arms will be strong! :lol: )
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 08, 2005, 01:54:51 am
Rabeccaq (spelling):  Let me know how the yoga is!  They are starting one up here and I'm interested in going.

Daisymelan:  I go to mops which is a church organization.  It is $25 to register and then $5 every 2nd and 4th Friday of the month.
Maybe they have one in your area.  Go to http://www.mops.org and there is a box where you can type in your zip code and it will give you a list of meetings in your area.
I understand how you feel.  My family and friends live 6 hours away.  My DH family is here but we only see them maybe once a month!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 08, 2005, 13:05:08 pm
Hey Adria, the yoga class was great!! :D Some of the exercise were a little too slow for a spirited baby but for the most part he was loving it.  I was expecting a little more of a workout for me, but I have been doing yoga for years so that influenced a lot.  Almost all of the mommies had broken out into a sweat and had the " Boy I'm gonna hurt tommorrow  :?" look.  I plan on doing the routine every other day, especially for Santiago because dh has a tendon problem and since it wasn't caught in his early years he's very stiff, so I want to get ds moving and flexing so won't run into this problem.

On an EXTREMELY happy note, a modeling agent came up to me and asked me to send her pictures of Santiago and he has a casting today for a Nokia commercial!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D  It's until 6, so you guys can bet I'll come home tonight and post all about it!!  Wish ds luck!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 08, 2005, 15:16:24 pm
Does anyone mind if I join this chat? My DD, Marisa, is 17 weeks and born August 11, so I know young, but nobody does the August/Sept. chats.

To start, DD is 17 weeks today and recovering from reflux/MSPI. I'd say mostly textbook baby with some spirited qualities too. Most nights she actually sleeps all the way through from 7:30 pm through 6:30 am - no DF. Although lately she's waking around 4 or 5 am. Not sure - might be teething...

We are struggling with 45 minute naps but lately having some success with wake to sleep. Yay!

Anyway, don't want to jump in unless it's OK. Just envy all the groups that have great chat sessions!
Karen
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 08, 2005, 16:45:30 pm
WELCOME KAREN!  The more the merrier!

Luke isn't sitting up yet....he's too busy trying to stick everything in his mouth to concentrate!  He does well in the exersaucer, though, so I am sure it's not far off!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 08, 2005, 18:11:54 pm
Thanks!

Working on tweaking Marisa's routine lately. I think she has been getting too much day sleep and it's causing night wakings again after weeks of sleeping through (she gets amazing sleeping genes from DH). I wouldn't mind - but this is different and doesn't seem like a hunger wakeup - more like she wants to sleep but is too awake. I have had to give her 1-2 ounces to calm her (we don't use a pacifier) and then she watches her crib soother 2-3 times through before falling back asleep.

So, I'm trying to slowly extend A times to 2 hours and limit morning nap to 1.5, second nap to 1.75 and catnap to 45 minutes. This makes us AEASY, but what the hey?!

Speaking of exersaucers, I just started putting Marisa in hers in the past day or two - we have the Baby Einstein one. Even though she's a hefty almost 16 pounds, she's short and doesn't come close to filling the seat well. I put a towel behind her and that works some - but not great. Just wondering when you all started to really be able to use the exersaucer and have your little ones enjoy it? It seems like she will really like it when big enough!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 08, 2005, 18:47:35 pm
we don't have an exersaucer for dd - we opted for the jumperoo instead.  we started putting her in it at about 3 and a half months.  she too wasn't quite long enough to reach the ground so we found her a little stepping stool so she was able to jump still and she loved it.  have thought about getting her an exersaucer but she has so many toys she barely has enough time to play in them all...maybe i will change my mind a little further down the road.  i would love to have a 'walker' for dd but they are illegal in canada so i guess that is not an option.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 08, 2005, 18:52:49 pm
I was considering getting DD a jumperoo for Hanukkah! Do you think it's worth it in addition to exersaucer we already have?

Really? Why are walkers illegal?

OK - back to work. In addition to being a full-time mom of a four-month old, I am a real estate broker trying to still do some work from home!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 08, 2005, 19:39:08 pm
We have both and Luke loves both of them for different reasons.  He can't really jump up and down in the exersaucer, but it has all these fun toys on it for him to play with.  The jumper is on a spring, so he has a BLAST on that!


As for the night wakings, I really don't have much advice for you, except that if she's sleepy...truly sleepy, then I'd let her nap.  The night wakings might be due to some other developmental thing.  (Don't I sound like I really know what I am talking about? :wink: )
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 08, 2005, 20:39:29 pm
apparantly they are illegal because too many children got hurt ie falling down the stairs with them so instead of holding irresponsible parents accountable they banned them!...not fair to those of us who take precautions and actually watch our children...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 08, 2005, 20:49:03 pm
I never knew that with walkers! We live in an apartment (New York City), so no stairs to worry about, thank goodness.

Actually, Amy, the nap limiting is on advice of some of the nap mods and site admin - so I'll try it out and see what happens! Also may help her to not fight the catnap as much.

When did you all start on solids? I expect it will be a little while for us, since Marisa will only be four months on Sunday and because she has some food intolerance issues/reflux, but still curious!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 08, 2005, 21:21:37 pm
I decided not to put ds in one because I've heard of too many accidents happenning.  So I just do lots of exercises with him and have lots of those foam squares for the floor and have him there almost all day.

About the solids, I started him on about 2 weeks ago.  I've been making my own fruits compotes from non-citric fruits.  He loves them!!  I give him 3 oz 5 pm. I'm going to wait until he's 6 months to give fruit inthe morning and afternoon.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 08, 2005, 21:33:32 pm
Hi all - we are doing good here, still struggling with computer issues, so I am off and on.

We started solids last week, started with breakfast and dinner, just rice cereal. Did a banana once and he loved that too. I want to slowly add a vegetable.... what is a good first veggie?

WE HAD AN AWESOME NIGHT..... slept from 7:30 till 3:30  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
I was only up like 3 times checking on him  :oops:  :oops:
But we had decided I would not feed between 11 and 5 and he didn't wake for the 11 and then I fed him at 3:30 (cause I was full and thought he would be hungry - he was) Then he ate again at 6 and slept till 7:15. Yeah - maybe we will be able to continue this great night schedule!

Caeden is just starting to sit up well, sometimes falls over, but usually sits there for 30 seconds or so. He loves it - I often put him sitting with the boppy around him and he likes that and can "sit" by himself for awhile before he rolls out and continues to roll all over.

We have 2 different exersaucer style toys, one a traditional exersaucer and another one he walks around the center with 4 different play areas - he loves them both and we use them daily. I also often put him on the  floor and he loves to roll around.

Well - that's the update from here - I will hopefully be on here more and can kept caught up!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 08, 2005, 22:14:48 pm
Also - just curious. How long are most of your A times?

We are currently extending and shooting for 1:75 in AM, 2 in midday and 2 or a bit more before catnap. And then between 2 and 2:25 before bed.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 08, 2005, 22:31:41 pm
i started dd on solids just before 4 months - just cereal though on the advice of paed for her reflux.  now i wish i wouldn't have started so soon because for the first little while she was ok with it and now i am having soo many troubles ie constipation, gas etc anyway i should have used common sense - if she has troubles with reflux wouldn't she have troubles with her whole digestive track?...and her reflux was under control so i think it was useless to start with cereal that early - live and learn i suppose.

as far as A time - she's good for anywhere between 1 hr 45 min to 2 hrs 15min depending on how well her last nap went.  i just watch for tired signs and go with the flow!

Caeden's mom - must be nice a little jealous here - we are doing a bit better but not that well!  gave dd dream feed and then she woke up twice after that - but it's some improvement.  just a  little curious here - i know your lo was born on june 11 also - what time though?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 08, 2005, 23:24:22 pm
We started on cereal the week before he was 4 months and then the first jar food was greenbeans.  My pediatrician recommends starting with green veggies so that they don't get so accustomed to the sweet fruit that they won't eat their veggies.  So, this is what we did...each for about a week at a time...green beans, peas, squash, sweet potatoes, carrots, banana, applesauce.

Now he gets three meals a day (inaddition to his bottles) and he's a happy boy!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 08, 2005, 23:53:45 pm
We are currently working in dropping the catnap and do okay unless we are in the car, then he sleeps.....
Caeden is usually awake around 7, naps 9-11 and then 1:3--2 ish tiill 3:30-4ish and then bed at 7:30. This is my ideal say and we have yet to get 2 - 2 hour naps in the same day but we are working hard on keeping the set naptimes regardless of the nap length.

Anyway - that is where we are.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 09, 2005, 00:01:39 am
Thanks guys!

Yea - re reflux, Marisa has rice cereal in half of her bottles per GI specialist for reflux (she is also on prescription formula due to MSPI). It does constipate her but it's necessary to keep stuff somewhat down...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 09, 2005, 01:11:19 am
We were dealing with the reflux over here and Axid was prescribed.  Sure has made a difference!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 09, 2005, 04:00:23 am
amystoker - did u find any foods made your lo gassy at all??  green beans were horrible for dd - don't know if i ever want to try them again.  we started with carrots, squash, peas, sweet potatos, green beans, pears, peaches, prunes only when i mixed it with cereal which all of course constipated her.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Adamsmum on December 09, 2005, 05:10:46 am
Hello everyone!

I'd love to join in!  Adam has fallen into a great routine with the exception of the past few days.  He's been waking up after 45 min. in one of his naps.  I'm just chalking it up to either a growth spurt or he's not wanting to sleep as much.  I'm still really happy with the skedge he's on.  :D

Okay, has anyone had any issues with their little ones not wanting to play independently after a little bit???  Sometimes he's great but usually he just cries or whines after a few minutes.  I don't want to just throw him in front of baby einstein all the time either.  It also depends on the time of day so I just don't know if this is normal for this age or I'm expecting too much.  I usually just end up letting him fuss for a bit with reassurements that I'm still there or playing with him, etc.  I definitely don't go pick him up at the first cry. 

Any thoughts??

Elisa
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 09, 2005, 05:46:21 am
Hey everyone,

Aiden is 5 months old and we haven't really started solids. I tried at 4 months but his little system wasn't ready. Too bad because he was 19 lbs last month! I hope to start him this month. But I was going to start him with pears. Rice cereal he didn't like and it stopped him up. Then we tried sweet potatoes which he liked but started having major tummy troubles. So I am thinking pears are good, easily digestable, and I don't know anyone allergic to them. My ped. told me to do veggies because he will develop a sweet tooth if you give him fruit.  I think this is bull. He will like what ever he is going to like. And if that were true he won't eat anything else after he taste the fruit. And I was started on fruit and I like veggies better that my Mom!

Has anyone else tried this?

I don't really have a problem with him playing independently.  He gets bored pretty fast though, are you sure that isn't it. What kinds of play are  you doing?

We were just prescribed Axid too and it is working loads better that the Zantac.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 09, 2005, 13:54:07 pm
Welcome to all the new mamas.

We still haven't started soilds, but I'm thinking once he gets to the five month mark, I may start.  He can lean forward when he wants stuff now, he sits pretty well on his own and he stares at us when we eat and drink so I'm thinking he's getting ready.  I will be at my parents over the holidays so it may be a great time to start.  I will do cereal first and then veg.  As mentioned earlier, I heard that it will be harder to introduce veg if you don't do it first.

Owen's really started screaming when he wants something.  Namely not to be in his bedroom alone at bed time.  But I think he knows exactly what he's doing.  He listens after he screams to see if we are walking down the hallway.  Are they too young to be this wise?

Depending what he's doing, he can play independently for up to 20 minutes or so.  Especially if he's in his exersaucer or jumparoo.  He loves both for the same reasons as mentioned by the other mama.  I put him in when he was 3 months.  He just loved sitting by himself.   I too had to use a towel to support him.  But I can't put him in too soon after he eats or he spits up.  I'm happy we have both of the toys. 

Things have been hectic here, an apt building three buildings away caught on fire.  We lost power for the better part of a day.  People we know lost everything and two ppl lost their lives.

Also, the same day I had to go get a tooth replaced, I was in the dentist chair for over 2 hours with DH and lo out in the office cuz we had no power at home.  My mouth is killing me and my body aches from being tense for 2 hours.  I'm so out of shape.

I'm gonna try to show you one of the pics we took of owen for xmas cards.[/img]  I just used the webcam to take a picture of real photos... wish we had a scanner.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 09, 2005, 14:58:52 pm
I love that christmas picture its absolutly adorable!!

Tom started on fruit and he absolutly loves his veg (altough we havent tried green beans yet!!) I think it probably depends on the individual baby, its probably best to do what you feel most comfortable. I let him ds have plenty of fruit if he wants it, but try not to let him have jared food too often, as lots seem to have added ingrediants that im not happy giving him yet :?  He does have jars sometimes but i try to limit it (my freezer is full of pured fruit and veg!)

Tom doesnt play well on his own either, hell do 15 mins at a time (on baby gym etc) before he needs a litle company and 30 mins in his door bouncer. Hes much better than he was (when he was little he would scream if someone wasnt holding him or playing with him throughout his A time. Different babbies have different personalitys, and he just likes company (it doesnt have to be mine, hell merrily babble to a complete stranger for hrs!)and gets board easily if he does 1 thing for too long. Its exausting trying to find new things to do in A time, but its worth it to hear him giggle instead if grizzle!! (I probably should take him for more walks in his push chair so he can look at the world, but its just so chilly and wet out at this time of year :oops:  :oops: )

Had a bit of a nightmare day yesterday as tom started weezing and we had to rush him to docs ( V scairy) hes ok but doc thinks he may have astma like his mummy! Phil says next time hes going to marry someone whos not defective so he gets healthy children! :x  :lol:  Ds had another bad night last night as his nose was blocked, so he woke every hr all night, i had the added worry of the astma so was also ling there trying to listen if he was weezing.  :roll: Think i may have to perspone putting tom in his own room for another week to alow cold to clear :(  i just want my room back!

Well i hope you all have a good weekend, Ive got to do a christmas dinner for 13 on sun, but i love cooking AND i lone christmas so i dont mind! Pitty my ovens not bigger tho, the turky fills it and i have roast potatoes, roast parsnips, stuffing, gammon and sausages in bacon to cook aswell! may have to be creativew and pre cook some stuff on sat!

ps sorry its so lng i really can waffle cant i?!! :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 09, 2005, 15:08:29 pm
don't have too much time right now - but what a sweet christmas picture!

as far as A time just recently dd has been better on her own - actually seems happier sometimes..which is a nice switch.  she never really liked anyone holding her for too long but she always  wanted someone to talk to - now she's starting to talk to herself which is nice for me to get some things done!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 09, 2005, 17:10:44 pm
Love the pic!!!  I will try and post Cait and Ry's xmas pics later.

Yes, Cait will lay on her blanket for MAYBE 10 minutes and as soon as I get my hands good and soapy from kitchen duty, she raises hell.  It is so frustrating.  I have so much to get done with it being a new house, boxes everywhere, I have 3 parties tomorrow and then throwing on Sunday night.....(these were NOT my idea) and I just dont' know if I am coming or going.  But yet, here I sit typing you guys.  :roll:   Glad to know that Cait isnt' the only one that is being an "attention hog".

I will post more tonight hopefullly.  TGIF!!!

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 09, 2005, 18:11:53 pm
Hi all. Rough night here - Marisa woke at 2:30 screaming. Not hungry - hand jammed in mouth - screaming. DH and I gave her some Tylenol and cuddles and she calmed down after about 15 minutes and looked at her crib toy/birds with us and fell back asleep at about 3:30. When I woke her at 7:15 this morning, she seemed fine - still pulling at her ear, which she's done all week. Fever only 99.4.

Anyway, we dont' know if she's teething (which it seems like she has been), also ear infection and/or head cold. Doctor says to wait and see how today/tonight is and bring her in tomorrow if we have a bad night or sooner if fever goes up at all. So we'll see - meanwhile, she's napping well - just seems a bit "off".

As for A time Marisa is pretty good about playing independently. After she wakes (or I wake her) from a nap she'll play in her crib and watch her mobile for about 10 minutes. Then we play together and do her exercises and sing. Then she will play in her Aquarium gym for about 10 minutes by herself. Then we eat and play together and read and take walks, etc until next nap time.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 09, 2005, 18:59:35 pm
Caeden is doing pretty good in playtime - we rotate around the toys and he seems to enjoy that. He will play for 10-20 minutes when in a good mood on the floor by himself. Longer if I sit there for awhile too. I find the closer the naptime the more attention he needs, so I try to plan my time accordingly and we play together and do things just before nap and he plays by himself after waking and eating.

We had another good night - went down at 7:30, ate at 11 and 5 and woke at 7:30. YEAH!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 09, 2005, 19:10:59 pm
Luke does ok for about 30 minutes and then he needs some attention.  The only thing that will really hold his attention completely for that long is Baby Einstein.

I can't remember who asked....the only food I have noticed that he really didn't like was peaches.  I guess they were too acidic.  Oh, and mango.  He didn't care for that too much either, but then again, neither do I!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 09, 2005, 19:20:26 pm
congrats jennifer - my dd has been doing better also through the night - makes u feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel!

have a check up and shots on monday - can't wait to see how much she weighs now, she was only 5lbs 9oz when born and gained weight like a maniac the first 3 months or so, and she's been really feelling heavy lately!  she did pretty well with her first set of shots and i'm a little late getting the second (i know bad mommy  :oops: ) but with moving and getting settled and everything i just put it off.

has anyone travelled by plane with their lo's yet?  my mom wants to take me and dd to Dominican in Feb and i'm a little reluctant taking dd on the plane with cabin pressure and everything.  any suggestions? or advice?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 09, 2005, 20:04:27 pm
We flew with Luke when he was just shy of three months old.  If your lo takes a pacifier, that is good for take off and landing, otherwise, give a bottle.  We will be flying after Christmas and since we don't give the paci anymore, I am going to give him a bottle with water in it.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 09, 2005, 20:07:54 pm
We have a check-up and shots on Wed so I am looking forward to seeing how much he weighs as well. He was 7-11 at birth. Not looking forward to the shots though :(

We flew to Phoenix for Thanksgiving with Caeden. I didn't have too many concerns per se, just not sure how he would do having to sit for that long. He did pretty good and everyone around us was good about it too. Biggest advice I would have is try to time the flight for a nap and feed during take off and landing or give paci. Also, I would not pre-board.....it is just that much longer to sit and stay in the seat. We waited both times till the end and it worked good. And one of our flights there were problems and overbookings and it ended up leaving an hour and a half after the scheduled time - oh we were thankful we weren;t sitting in our seats all that time. We ended up bumping to another flight and had to hurry to  catch it and ended up being the last ones on. They closed the doors behind us and left. So - I was able to sit down and get situated and start nursing. It worked pretty good for us.

Okay - gotta go - he's playing in the window blinds!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 09, 2005, 23:10:15 pm
thanks for the advice - really appreciate it!..have easily helped me make a decision to go, that and all the snow we got outside last night  :?
can't wait for spring to take dd outside for any length of time again...won't that be nice!
she still hasn't really 'sat up' per se, she 'sits' but mostly leans forward...but she did stand holding the table for over two minutes today!!!  couldn't believe my eyes, we tried a couple of weeks ago and it looked like she was a long way off but lo and behold she did it!  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 09, 2005, 23:12:35 pm
I flew with Owen when he was 2 months.  Everything went peachy.  I didn't use a bottle because he wouldn't take one so I just nursed him and it was no problem at all.  The ppl beside me didn't mind at all. 

We are flying again in january and I hope it goes just as well.

Also, we are doing an 18 hour drive to my parents for xmas.  We are doing it in three drives and doing night driving.....  Wonder how it will work.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 09, 2005, 23:14:52 pm
good luck with the driving daisymelan!  that's gonna be a nice challenge!  not one i'd like to endure anyway - i told everyone if they want to see us this year they can come anytime..we r staying home  8)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 10, 2005, 03:35:06 am
I joined late but my DD was born June 15th, 2005 and thought I would jump in and say hi. I must admit that I have started to really enjoy using this discussion board and another one that I am signed up on. It helps me feel sane.

My DD has her 6 month check-up next Friday.  She had an ear infection recently but other then that she has been doing really well. I started solids about 4 weeks ago and she is doing well so far except that now we are struggling with trying to drop the catnap and adjusting her schedule.

Ciao,
Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 10, 2005, 03:39:21 am
hi leslie!! welcome - i just moved from london to chatham myself...don't ask y...anyway hope things are going well for u so far!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 10, 2005, 12:43:31 pm
Tawnya,

Are you aware of the London Moms forum?  I have found it helpful I think there are other moms from Chatham on there as well.  The website is http://www.londonmoms.ca.

Nice to see someone local!

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 10, 2005, 15:14:15 pm
thanks for the link leslie - i have been there a few times when dd was first born but haven't been there since, but i will check it out again!   :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 11, 2005, 04:02:05 am
I hate teething!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 11, 2005, 04:10:22 am
lmao - i feel your pain supermans mom - we've had a rough couple days ourselves.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 11, 2005, 19:16:55 pm
We've got teething, sleep deprivation (mine and his), trying to start solids today. I will write back when he starts having horrible gas and monster poops! When do they get fun again?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 11, 2005, 22:14:33 pm
superman's mom - u may consider holding off on starting solids if there is alot going on with him right now...just a thought...just hope he doesn't get constipated with any of the solids - no fun!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 12, 2005, 12:59:13 pm
We have finally found a formula that ds will take.  Similac advance!!!  Woohoo.  I suddenly feel like I have freedom and just in time for Christmas and New Year's.

Also, we tried cereal yesterday, but he hated it.  I guess I will try again in a couple days.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 12, 2005, 13:08:13 pm
Sorry about all of the teething....but better to bite you with!! :lol:

Cait didn't like cereal at first, but Saturday I got the first "baby bird" reaction from her with the lips opening and closing and her sqealing for more.  I think it takes them a bit to figure out that "hey, something other than just a plain old bottle/boob." :wink:   Now......as for the pears I tried her on last night........not so happy with those!!  LOL

And what is up with putting them in the crib facing one way and then coming back and they are TOTALLY turned around facing the opposite direction. Cracks me up everytime. :D  :roll:

Less than two weeks till xmas....let the fun keep coming.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 12, 2005, 13:16:35 pm
My niece drinks Similac since she was about 8 months and she's done great with it.  She's now 20 months and has graduated all the to EnfaGrow.

As for ds, sometimes I wish he was a formula baby so I could go out for a long strech and not worry about feeding him or maybe even leave him with his grandma.  But it always seems that when I'm right about to cave something happens that encourages me to keep bf.  You know, ds will stoke my face or nuzzle against my breast, or I'll read an article about the wonders of bf etc etc etc.  Some days I think I'm going to drive myself insane, it seems all I think about it breast vs. formula....

 :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 12, 2005, 14:34:10 pm
Jake wasn't so crazy about pears either, they are pretty tart! They made him pucker up :) We are starting peaches today, hope their good!

Well, I'm sure it is a big week of doctor appt. Who else is going? Atleast we'll have some support and sympathy after the next round of shots. Does anyone have any great questions that they are planning to ask the doctor about the next few months? I always seem to have a list but never know which ones are that important.

Anyway, good luck to all the babies facing the needle this week :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 12, 2005, 14:41:45 pm
We have Marisa's four month shots on Wednesday and I am DREADING it. Poor angel had a terrible reaction the first time - fever, cranky and aggravated her reflux. Ugh. But it's better than the alternative...

As for solids, we of course haven't started yet - DD is much younger than your LOs. But I've heard that avocado is a GREAT first food. Mash it up/puree it yourself and get to desired consistency with formula/breast milk. Easy to digest, very rare allergen, nice taste but not too sweet...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 12, 2005, 15:15:15 pm
my lo didn't like avacado at all..or pears at first - although now she has really grown to love the pears!
i actually tried dd on formula and she hated it - wouldn't have anything to do with.  i too, just wanted an 'out' if i were to maybe over the holidays enjoy myself a little and have a few drinks...but that doesn't seem to be in the near future! :?  :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 12, 2005, 15:45:58 pm
I started ds on pears and he made the worst face!!  :shock: But he really likes thems now.  Our ped has him on only fruits first and when he's 6 months then we start veggies and soup.  Oh, he also only eats non-citric fruits, those come after he's a year.

His faves are peaches, bananas, apples, pears and melon.

His yucky's are papaya and guava.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 12, 2005, 16:15:50 pm
Cait has her 6 mo checkup tomorrow.  Poor baby.  I need to talk to DH and see if we want to get her a flu shot.  She isn't around other children much and neither is Ry, so why put one more needle into her poor leg.  And also, DH cant' go with me tomorrow, so I will have screaming Mimi all on my own.  Can't wait to see how much she weighs.


( :oops:  :oops:  :oops: we still have her in the infant carrier :oops:  :oops: )

Ahem.......anyway.  Post stats when you get them.  :D

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 12, 2005, 16:29:23 pm
Bj- Don't worry we still have Jake in the infant carrier too! And if I remember correctly, Cait and him were pretty close in height and weight at four months. Jake was an inch too long at the last checkup but the doctor said we were good for about one more inch and we are waiting for x-mas to get the big car seat.... I think he is okay for now! He sure fills it up when he is in it :)

I am wondering about the flu shot too. I think that if they are under two years old, they need two doses a month apart, so that would mean going back in a month for another shot! I don't like the sound of that, but if it keeps them from getting sick then I suppose it is worth it.

Well, Jake didn't seem to like the peaches.... but he chows down on any veggie I give him! Maybe that will pay off when I am trying to get him to finish his broccoli.... :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 12, 2005, 17:20:21 pm
Caeden is sitting up well now - just really got the hang of it in the last couple days...... anyone trying this yet?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 12, 2005, 17:27:23 pm
Cait just ends up smelling the carpet....and isnt' happy about it.  :roll:

I think that is going to be one of my "development" questions for the dr.  She isn't really doing anything more now than when she was 4 months.  I have lazy children.   :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 12, 2005, 18:01:52 pm
awww - i wouldn't say they are lazy - they're just gonna have a couple sleepless weeks and do everything all at once!

dd has troubles sitting for more than a couple seconds, but i discovered she can hold onto a table and stand for minutes at a time!...she's started giving kisses, drinking from a sippy cup and a straw...and sleeping very well  8)  !
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 12, 2005, 19:10:10 pm
My DD has her 6 month app't on Friday which means more shots.  She has done okay with them but I still hate the tears and feel so bad for her.  She does seem out of sorts for a few days but luckily no fever.

I have some questions for the doctor about when to add meat or spices etc...My LO has been doing well with rice cereal, oatmeal, sweet potato, parsnip, squash, peas, pears and apples. She hated avacado and potato but maybe I caught her on a bad day. I also tried to give her carrots that I made and she spit them out but today she ate carrots from a jar...I guess my carrots weren't any good :)  My DD didn't like apples at first because they were tart but loves pears.

She has been sitting up for a few weeks now on her own but she has no interest in rolling over. She gets up on her side but then is fine with staying there.

I think Rachel posted about BF vs. Bottle.  I know how you are feeling but for me my LO made the decision for me. She stopped BF because she started liking the bottle too much. I really wanted to BF until she was at least 8-12 months -even if it was just for 1-2 feedings. BUT she started wanting the bottle and I pumped and fed her from the breast in the morning. One morning she refused my breast in the morning and I couldn't pump anymore either....I was sad the first few days and wish it didn't end so quickly but it does give me some freedom (if only I had someone to leave her with).  She is also now drinking water and a bit of juice with water from a sippy cup.  Try to think of all the good things about BF but don't drive yourself crazy either.  Do what feels right for you.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 12, 2005, 20:12:34 pm
I wanted to try to introduce the sippy earlier than I did with Ry (15 mo)....what was the initial reaction for your LO when you popped in their mouths?  Did they seem to "get it" or was it a hit or miss kind of thing?  I thought six months would be ideal, but now that we are here, she just seems so darn young for it.

Anyone else have a bumbo seat? (have I asked that already? :roll:  :oops: )  I would like to get one, but the minute I pay $50.00 for one, she will sit up on her own the minute the UPS guy drops it at the door and I open the box.  :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 12, 2005, 20:37:48 pm
I'm so sorry I haven't been on forever.  We have all been sick and I have been trying to get Jency on a 4 hour EASY.  I have read everything up to date for the most part.  Not trying to ignore you all.
But we have run into a serious problem.  Here it is!
This is mainly for nursing moms.  Could you PM me with responses please.  Thank you so much!!

Jency has gotten on a pretty good 4 hour EASY for about the past week now. There has been a couple days where it has gotten off and I still have to be in there during his naps to pat him when he starts to wake up at the 35 min mark. But other then that we have been doing pretty good. He takes a little bit of solids at breakfast and then at dinner. I don't think he has associated food with hunger yet because if he is hungry he will jsut sit there and scream until I give him the breast or bottle. THat is my first question. What should I do about that?
Also, he eats 2-3 times during the night and then is not hungry in the morning and then in the afternoon he refuses to eat.
That is question #2: My let down has gotten slow. Why and how do I fix it?
When I try to feed him in the afternoon he latches on and then sucks for a few seconds and then will come off crying until I have a let down. Then he will eat for a few min and then come off screaming then latch back on suck once or twice and come off screaming. This repeats itself until I give up. Lat night I nursed him after dinner because he was screaming (and even though I had fed him 2 hours earier and had solids he ate pretty well) then I tried to nurse him two hours later (which is his last nursing before bed) and he did this. So I filled a bottle with 2oz of formula and he downed it.
What is going on with this?

I know that Tracy says that you should up there calory intake during the day and not feed them at night but since I'm nursing and he doesn't understand solids I'm not sure how to do this.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 12, 2005, 20:42:12 pm
Well, Luke doesn't blow kisses yet, but he'll lean in for them.  I was on my death bed this weekend with the stomach flu, so I didn't get to see him hardly at all!  His daddy was on duty.  I sure did miss the little booger.  He woke up HUNGRY at 3:00 am last night for the first time since the day before he turned three months old.  I haven't had to do a middle-of-the-night feeding since then!  The little dude is growing.  I also think he is trying to cut his top two teeth.  The snot factory is working overtime!  I've almost decided that his allergies ARE definitely a factor, but once those two bottom teeth popped through, he was clear for two weeks.  Now he's drooling all over everything and trying to put anything and everything in his mouth.

I have to remind the rest of the people that are in my boat (kid not sitting up yet...or rolling over...which ever the case may be) not to get discouraged.  It's hard when you hear that your kid isn't doing this or that yet, but my theory is....they'll do it by the time they're in kindergarten!  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 12, 2005, 21:09:25 pm
We have a bumbo but we only use it for pictures! He doesn't like to sit up in it much and when he drops a toy he cannot reach down and get it. Also, Jake is a big boy and his legs get stuck in it when you try and take him out. I am glad we got the seat as a gift and didn't spend any money on it. Jake loves to "sit" on my lap and in his high chair, so that will have to work for now until he can do it on his own. I also prop him in the boppy with a pillow behind his back. He seems nowhere near ready to do it on his own, but I suppose one day it will just click!

I started giving Jake a sippy cup about a month ago. I feed him solids and then give him a drink of water. I am not sure how much he understands what he is suppose to do with it, but it has become part of the routine and he is getting better at doing it himself. He doesn't quite tip it back far enough and I have to help, but he is getting better with practice :) I don't know how much he is actually drinking, but when it comes time to use it more exclusively, he'll be a pro  :wink:

My #1 question for the doc is how much am I suppose to be feeding, both liquid and solids? I think we are ready to do three solid feeds a day, but he is taking so much less in milk, I am worried when I add in "lunch" he will be taking in even less. And then there's the whole finger food phase which is not too far off.... it is hard to figure out when they can't tell us how hungry they are! Also, I have no idea when he is thirsty, so I'm not sure when to offer the cup other than meal time. Anyway, I hope the doc with give some guidance on this.... feeding used to be so simple :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 12, 2005, 22:02:45 pm
yep...just when we get one thing down pat.....something else comes along and bites us in the butt!!!  LOL

bj
Title: New to the forum
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 12, 2005, 22:30:36 pm
Hi All,

This is my first time posting in this forum, I didn't even notice it until just recently and I thought I would add in that my ds is going in for his 6 mo checkup and shots on wednesday.    I'm super anxious to see how much he weighs....Everybody says that he's really big when I say that he's almost 6 mos old.  We'll see. 

I haven't started on solids yet, but he has been on formula for the past 3 weeks now abd has been doing really well with it, so I will just check with the doctor and see what she says.

How are you all bathing your babies?  My lo is getting too big for the infant bath tub that we had been using and lately it's been easier just having a bath in the "big" tub with me or dh in with him.  Call it early swimming lessons.

Anyone else in the Toronto area out there?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 12, 2005, 23:17:00 pm
We have a blow-up "duck" tub that fits in the big tub.  Luke doesn't sit up yet, but he can lean back on the duck's tail like it's a recliner.  So funny!
It's made by Munchkin.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 13, 2005, 00:00:40 am
Sippy cups - Caeden has been "trying" it for a couple months now  - I figured it was easier to just introduce it then try the bottle then that. He does good, can get stuff out but still needs helps to tip it back far enough. I am sure he will get better in the coming months

Adria - on the breastfeeding questions -
If you really want to stick to 4 hours apart, try a little water in a cup or bottle to help "tide him over". Though - I have tried to get Caeden 4 hours apart and it is really hard. He seems to be stuck at 3 hours and since I am typically the only one home with him all day every day, it's hard to put him off. SO - we have kinda stuck with the 3 hours EASY and when he naps well or we are running around and I can push it he goes 4 hours. He seems to do well with this and it has made our "relationship" better if I just go ahead and feed him at 3 hours if he is awake and wanting it. I have also sometimes feed at 11 & 1 mid-day to help get a longer nap. We also try and do breakfast of cereal and something at dinnertime as well and so far it has not affected his breastsfeeding at all - he still wants it as often and eat a full feed.
We have stopped nursing thought between 11 & 5 (typically feed between 10-11 and then 5-6) and not in between and he is doing fine.

As far as your let-down - I have heard that as nursing progresses your letdown becomes less noticable and you are still producing fine, it is not noticable any more. If your LO seems satified after eating I would think all is okay. If you have more concerns I would call LaLeche League and talk to one of those ladies locally and they may have some ideas as well.

You may also post this question on the breastfeeding board - there are some good moms there with helpful ideas often!

One way I have felt I am increasing/maintaing his calories is keeping at a 3 hour EASY often thru the day. This may help if you do one or two feeds a little closer .

I think I got all the questions - have a good evening!

OH - on the bath question - we are using a round seat that he sits in - hard to describe, but it works good and we got it at Babies R Us for $20.00 - should last for awhile too.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 13, 2005, 00:25:39 am
Bumbo chair- we got a bumbo as a gift from my sister. My LO likes it and I use it all the time for feeding her because her high chair is just too big right now.  She didn't like it that much at first but I have been sitting her in it for periods of time since she was about 4 months.  Maybe it helped her to sit up so early because she was sitting on her own not long after using it (of course for short periods of time). Her legs are quite chubby too but she is still fitting in it without being uncomfortable. I figure we might have another month - I hope!

In terms of the sippy cup. I have two sippy nipples that fit on the Avent bottles so I can tell how much she is drinking. It is a great way to monitor what her fluid intake is.  She is usually drinking about 3 oz a day of water.  She is slowly getting the hang of tipping it up. I usually fill a 4oz bottle so that she doesn't have to tip it too far.  Sometimes it ends up all down the front of her but I guess that is part of the learning process.

She has yet to cut any teeth but drools like crazy all the time. I expect one or two any time now. 

I am close to TO - I am in London, Ontario. In fact I am driving to Toronto tomorrow so that my LO can meet her Great Grandmother. My DH hasn't seen his grandma in a long long time and she is 96. We feel we need to make the trip so she can meet our DD.

Ciao,
Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 13, 2005, 01:25:25 am
Caedensmom: We need to get together some time soon.

I have decided to go to a 4 hour EASY with cluster feed at night (we don't do a dream feed).  He has been doing so well with naps (except I have to be there at the 30 min mark to pat him when he starts to wake up)!!
He also has took a few onces from a bottle!!!  We are going to try and set his routine in stone this week and then this weekend work on not feeding him for at least a 6 hour stretch at night.  We are going to try and get his long stretch at the beginning of the night instead of the morning (now it's from 4am-10am).Oh ya, and I'm pumping after his evening meals to try and help my supply.  Do you all thing this is a good plan?
Wish me luck!

Jency has a jumparoo and loves it!  He also loves his baby faith "God made me" DVD.  Jency can sit up ever once in awhile.  He rolls from both sides now and creeps across the floor to get things.  His favorite things are his dogs though.  He will just see them and start laughing :roll: .

Leslie: Have fun.  Jency got to meet his Great Great Grandpa a couple months ago.  It was very special.  Hopes your reunion is as good!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 13, 2005, 01:38:38 am
Adria!!!! congrats on the routine!  So nice to hear you doing well with it.  I think pumping after you feed him is a great idea.  I feel the exact same way about my own milk supply.  I've started giving formula to ds for his DF and to top him up on his last feed of the day.  (now that he takes some formula.... did i mention that he now takes some formula!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I have already made my plans for NYE now that I can!!!!  He is going to spend the night at my friends!  wowie.  I never thought I'd see this day.

ok, i'm calm now.

Owen's a pretty sturdy sitter.  He can usually do 5 seconds on his own, ususally longer.  That's why i thought he was ready for solids, but no.

And BJ, I wouldn't buy the chair.  Christmas is coming.... you may get an early present from her and then you will have wasted $50.  It will happen soon enough I'm sure.

It is a happy holiday season. 

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 13, 2005, 01:42:29 am
Bath time - someone asked about bathing. We have been using the big tub for quite a while now. It seemed so silly using the little baby tub when she barely had water around her. I usually take an old towel and fold it so that it covers the bottom of the tub and then take a hand towel and put it under the one end to prop up the head more. I only put a few inches of water in the tub and then she can lay on the towel and splash around. Lately she will sit on the towel (with support in case) or I lay her on her tummy and put a towel under her chest. She loves this becuase she kicks her legs like she is swimming. I also climb in with her when I feel the need and that is fun too.

I was lucky though..the big tub never frightened her. Maybe because we introduced it early?  Not sure.  I did frighten her once by pulling the drain but now that doesn't even phase her.  She is pretty laid back.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 13, 2005, 02:05:03 am
We love the Bumbo here - but Marisa is much younger than your LOs. We got it as a present and she smiles SO big when I put her in there. We only use it a few minutes a day but it's definitely already helping with her muscles to pull and sit up.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 13, 2005, 03:58:07 am
Aiden is sitting up really well. He loves sitting and playing with his Aquarium gym. It is so cool. I tried him on pears (second time we have tried solids). He wasn't sure at first so I ate a bite and he thought that was hilarous! Then he was so excited about them. So cute. I had thought about just waiting until he doesn't haev so much going on but he always has something going on. He needs the extra calories. He was 19 pounds last month and he is 5 months old now. He is definatly more ready than before. I'm just going to go slow.

I also had a question about the sippy cups. I wanted to try to see if he could use one but I don't know if he should be drinking any water though. He is bf and isn't to fond of formula, though he will take it. Water he loves though. He alway watchs me drink out of my water bottle so I gave him some. He actually drank out of the water bottle and he loved it. So now all he trys to do in the bath is drink the water! Crazy baby.

I wanted to write about some other posts but I forgot them. Will have to read again. Good luck with everyone's shots!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 13, 2005, 12:20:38 pm
BF babies usually don't need water but if you are feeding him some solids you could give him a bit of water.  My LO loves to suck on a washcloth in the bath. She started that before we stopped BF'ing and I let her do it.

I don't think water hurts as long as you notice that he is still eating enough.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 13, 2005, 15:26:41 pm
Adria - I think your schedule sounds good. We are finally settling into a routine and keeping more consistent with naptimes and such at set times instead of just 2 hours after the last one.

Gotta go - my sister and sister-in-laws are coming over this morning to make Christmas cookies and I got to get in the shower!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 13, 2005, 15:35:30 pm
We tried lo on rice cereal this morning for the first time... He wasn't too thrilled with it, although I don't think it has anything to do with the taste more with the use of a spoon as he has never used one before.  I will try him again this afternoon and maybe give him the spoon to play with so that he gets used to it.

Jordon is sitting up pretty well but still isn't rolling over though that doesn't really seem to bother him at all. 

LeslieG- I love that pic of your dh and lo in the bumbo, so cute!  I've been thinking about getting one of those myself, but I've just put it on the Christmas list. 

Darn it, lo is up early from his nap...gotta go.  Have a good day everyone.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 13, 2005, 16:10:57 pm
sippy cup - when i first gave it to dd she just seemed to know what to do with it, although very messy about it  :) the straw cup was a work in progress but she has seemed to master this too now without half as much of a mess!  during meals i give dd water or bm depending on how well she fed right before solids.

bumbo - we got dd a bumbo when she was about 3 months old.  we used it all the time before and she seemed to LOVE it.  now whenever we put her in it she seems to be trying to get out  :shock:  i think it is too limiting for her..although she still can't sit up on her own yet, i guess everything in due time!

solids - my lo took to solids REALLY well and never seemed to want to stop eating!  i took the advice of my family (BIG mistake) who told me she'd stop when she was full and to keep feeding her...this coming from the people who said she'll just fall asleep when she's tired!..yeah right! anyway, talked to the paed yesterday and she said when starting out just give a heaping teaspoon morning and evening, and some veg's at lunch.  (fruit in the am if u like too).  that way not filling up on solids so much and still getting adequate breastmilk.  unless weaning - feed bm or formula before solids...

bath time - for the first two months we used an infant tub but then switched to a regular tub with folded towels also - she loves to splash now!!  i think it is her fave time of day!

the paed appt went really well!  she is still only a small girl in comparison to all of your lo's..she's 15lbs 6oz - but is doing great for only being 5lbs 9oz at birth.  paed said she is in 50 percentile for everything and is perfect!!!!! :)  :)  :)   always a big relief!  she didn't get her shots again  :x  she said i have to get them from the family doctor. 

does anyone have a lo with reflux on zantac??  have u spoken to your dr about when and how to wean them??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 13, 2005, 17:00:04 pm
Aiden was on Zantac. We just switched him to Axid as his reflux is showing no signs of stopping. But I read that about 9+ months there muscle that keeps the food down will mature and it will improve on it's own. So maybe that is about the time to start weaning it.

We had some rice cereal mixed with pears this morning and he loved it! I mixed the rice cereal with a little water because he doesn't like formula and I don't pump. I hoep this  is alright!

Bathtime he has a little blow up tub. I like the folded up towels idea but he may not like it. Just wants to sit up all the time now. Dang he is waking up early.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 13, 2005, 17:16:09 pm
Supermans Mom - I too mix the rice cereal with water....... I also don't use formula or pump. My mom always used just water too so I figured it was fine!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 13, 2005, 17:32:06 pm
Marisa is on Pepcid - will wait until the Ped GI tells us to wean and see. My friend had twins on Zantac and was able to successfully wean them at a year.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 13, 2005, 17:49:57 pm
We're on Axid and have been since mid October.  When we run out I am going to give him a couple of days without it to see how he's doing.  I'll have a prescription ready to be filled in case he needs it.

Ok, I am a little confused about the sippy cup.  I just think Luke is SO far from being ready for that.  He doesn't consistently hold his bottle yet, so I will probably wait until he's closer to a year (when we're getting ready to ditch the bottles).
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 13, 2005, 18:05:47 pm
Owen baths in the tub, usually with one of us... and we use one of the rings to keep him sitting up on his own without sliding all over.  It seems to work well and he loves bath time now.

Question, for the mama's that are giving their lo water.  Do you just use regular ol' tap water?  Not sure what I should be using.  I think I may try to introduce a sippy cup just to see what happens. 

We are resting today to start are 3 day venture half way across canada.  The first stint is an 8 hour drive.  Leaving tonight at 8 and hoping ds sleeps the whole way and we hope it won't mess with his schedule.

Hope the season is already festive for you all!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 13, 2005, 18:09:01 pm
As for water, I give Marisa boiled/cooled tap water. She gets one ounce a day mixed with one ounce pear juice (per GI doc for constipation)

Amy - I would recommend you do not stop the Axid cold turkey as that can cause a "rebound effect" with the reflux. You may want to cut the dose in half first for 2 weeks - if you give it twice a day just give it once (maybe at night?) or just cut each dose in half.

Also, when weaning you may find that you can fill in when needed with Mylanta. Only use the Cherry Supreme version - it does not have Aluminum. You can give 2ml 2-3 times a day if needed. We use a dose or half a dose here and there when DDs reflux is acting up - after shots, during teething, etc.

HTH - advice from friends with reflux babies and my GI specialist.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 13, 2005, 18:49:15 pm
I just give Jake tap water, I figure I drink it so it should be fine for him. He is doing real well with the cup, we only use it after solids to wash them down. Not sure when else I should offer a drink. Jake doesn't hold his bottle much either, he tries to take it from me, but I think I will always hold it during a feed. In a short six months, it will be time to get rid of it and go to cup exclusively! Time sure flies by :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 13, 2005, 19:06:52 pm
We go to the doc Monday for shots, so I am going to ask him then about the Axid.  He wanted me to stop it after just one month and I laughed at him.  He's consistently taking more from his bottles (8oz as opposed to 6...the little dude is hungry!) with much less spit up.

We are also taking a 9 hour drive over the holidays to my family's house.  We're going to break it up, though and only go 6 hours the first day and leave right before he's scheduled to take his cat-nap.  What I am hoping is that he'll take a longer than usual one, then get up to eat his dinner and then sleep the rest of the way.  That way when we get there we can just set up the pack and play and throw him in it for the night.  Hubby will drive back but Luke and I will fly back a few days later.  This is the last Chirstmas we will travel for a while.  I want to start establishing our own Christmas traditions in our own home.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 13, 2005, 19:08:41 pm
Ok I just asked my Mom about the cereal thing(what to mix it with) she says that the reason you mix it with formula is so it ups the caloric intake. Since I am just giving him fruit that isn't much calories. But how many calories is in the tiny bit I need to mix the cereal? Hmmm I think I'll stick to the water. That is better than the no calories he gets when he won't eat the formula flavored food.

daisymelon-what kind of ring (for the bathtub). I've never seen these.  Good luck with your drive. You are braver than I.

I used the filtered water that i drink. But I tried giving him a little this morning just to wash down the pears and I gave it to him right out of the fridge! Well didn't like that to much. Very diffrent from the warm bm I he ususally has! :roll:

I was thinking of starting a veggie for dinner. After he gets used to the breakfast  that is.  Anybody have any favorites? Other than sweet potatoes.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 13, 2005, 19:45:32 pm
Luke LOVES peas!  They're sweeter than greenbeans (but still green!)

Oh, and we give Luke purified water (we have a reverse osmosis system).  It's the same stuff we mix his formula with.  If we didn't have the RO system, I am sure we'd use bottled water.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 13, 2005, 19:47:04 pm
Two other good veggies are butternut squash and zuccini.  They're a little sweet, so Luke loves them.

I forgot who said their LO didn't like carrots.  Luke didn't care too much for them either, or peaches.  I think they triggered his reflux.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 13, 2005, 20:32:03 pm
dr advised to always give boiled to tap water to dd..mind that was when she was very small but nonetheless i still boil it. 

for those of u strictly breastfeeding, i was also advised that if lo won't take green beans, and that if iron fortified cereal constipates her that she should take a supplement for iron - any insight from anyone on this??

yesterday the paed to me that when dd starts sitting up on her own really well that i should just cut the zantac cold turkey - that her outer muscles would be stronger and that would mean the valve affecting the reflux should be strong enough...i am very hesitant about the cold turkey thing myself..halfing the dose and waiting a week or two to see how it affects lo seems justifiable to me too.

amy stoker - it might be good to let your lo hold a sippy cup so he learns to like (also gives a little independance) cuz u don't want him to not take it when a year comes around..just a thought..btw dd can't hold her hold bottle yet either, always pushes and plays with it.

dd liked everything except for green beans - altho after speaking to the paed i tried them again today and she ate them!!  she loved squash and peas the most tho.

hope everyone who is venturing away from home this holiday season has a safe trip!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 13, 2005, 20:48:37 pm
Here is the bath ring that we use.  We had an impromtu photo shoot in our living room!  lol  I have seen them where there is a sponge cut out and fits underneath so they don't slide.  we stick a towel in it so he has something to rest on.

(as i look over my shoulder, dh is throwing... and i do mean throwing, owen into the air and he is giggling like mad!!)  lol

Can't wait to get the digital for xmas so I can stop using my webcam to take pics.  it's just awful as you can see.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 13, 2005, 21:37:48 pm
We asked our dr about the boiled/regular tap water both for washing and eating and her response was that once they have reached about 4 mos, it becomes unecessary(?) to sterilize as they should now be putting all manner of things into their little mouths anyways.  We can't sterilize everything that they pick up so it really becomes something that we do for us to feel better not the babies.

For the person using water to mix up the cereal, check with the manufacuter, as I use Nestle rice cereal and they make two types.  One that needs to be mixed with formula or breastmilk and one that doesn't.  Maybe yours is a water based one.

We will be doing the road trip as well this year for the holidays... So not looking forward to the drive as we are visiting both sets of grandparents in two different places.  8hr drive to the first, then 4 hrs to the next and another 4 hrs to come home.  In the snow no doubt.  We have to do it this year as dh's grandmother hasn't met ds yet and my brother had a bb this year too so want to do a christmas with all the babies this year.  But that's it!  Next year we either stay here or go to a country where Christmas isn't celebrated! 

Good luck to all the roadtrippers out there, drive safe!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 13, 2005, 22:20:24 pm
Well, the stomach flu that was putting me near my death  :wink: has hit my little man :cry: Looks like I get to stay home with him tomorrow (although, I can't say I am TOO upset about it!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 14, 2005, 01:09:59 am
Amy- sorry to hear the little one is sick, hopefully it won't last too long!

Jake went to the doctor today, all looks good! He is 19 lbs. and 28 inches long... the doctor called him long and skinny :) I think he looks more like a football player, kind of solid! Anyway, cried at all three shots, but took them like a champ. Seems to be feeling better now. Atleast he won't have anymore for 6 mo. :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 14, 2005, 01:55:52 am
Ok, I think he's a giant faker.  Maybe he just wanted a day off with his mama so he worked up some runny poops that made the day care ladies say he had to stay home!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 14, 2005, 03:01:51 am
I hope for your sake he is a great faker!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 14, 2005, 03:37:57 am
it finally happened!  she finally got her first tooth!!  the next one is not far behind, but at least this time i will be prepared and know what to expect from her temperment wise - and it wasn't as bad as i had imagined - i was waiting for it to get worse and just as i thought the worst was about to hit - she was happy all day today, and slept well too!!  8)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 14, 2005, 12:41:27 pm
That is great about the first tooth. Still waiting for one here.  I just found out last night that my best friend is expecting a baby in June! It will be her first. Very exciting..her due date is June 17th (two days off of mine last year).

My DD drinks tap water. I stopped boiling and steralizing at 4 months like the doctor suggested.

The trip to Toronto went great. DD was great in the car.



Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 14, 2005, 14:10:52 pm
Hooray for a good car trip and yea for the first tooth!  I think Luke is working on his top two now.

Still no poops!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 14, 2005, 14:28:34 pm
HI ALL!!!  Boy, I missed a lot of posts by not checking in yesterday.

Cait's Stats:

weight: 19 lbs 3 oz

length: 28.25 inches

head: 17 inches and a little bit (forgot)

95th % for weight and near 100% for height.  Got all three shots and the flu shot.  We got the go ahead for stage 2 foods and to start meats.  In two months, I can introduce finger foods. :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:   Is it just me, but has this time just flown by????  We don't go back till March 14.  She is healthy as a horse and eats like one.

Okay.....so today is the big day!!!!  I just talked to the title company and our closing is set for 1:30 today.  And we will be done done done with our 25 acres!!!!!  wooohooooo.....I am so excited.  I will try to touch base with you all tonight.  Wish me luck!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 14, 2005, 15:06:38 pm
BJ:  GOOD LUCK!!  We just went through that this last summer. in June of 04 we bought a fixer upper and fixed it up.  Well right when it was done the market dropped :cry: .  We ended up having 2 mortgage payments and it didn't sell until the 30th of JULY!!!  It was aweful!  We found a buys in April but it was an FHA loan and the loan company, and then the inspector, where horrible.  The buyer was ready to do what ever to get the closing to go through, and so were we!  The inspector actually did some illegal things.  Every time he went back to check what we were suppose to have fixed he found new things for us to fix (5 times!!!).  Finally the loan company said that "enough is enough."

We are sitting up until we realize we are sitting up.  We still get wobbly from side to side.  We are still waiting for even a sign of teeth.  We can easily entertain ourselves for very long period of times.  We have laso decided to not give mommy anymore kisses :( .  We love electronics, lotion bottles, and faucets :roll: .
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 14, 2005, 16:07:03 pm
Yeah for the good dr visit Cait - good luck today BJ!

Yeah for the new teeth teezee!

We are off to the dr ourselves - will check back in tonight!

have a good day -
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 14, 2005, 16:12:47 pm
Bj- It looks like we should get Cait and Jake together, they are the same size :) How's your back feeling lugging her around?

I can't believe how heavy Jake feels sometimes. But I love then when I hold him he is pretty much eye level with me because he is so tall. A friend of mine had a baby eight days after me and she only weighs about 15 lbs. When you pick her up she is as light as a feather, it is so strange! You wouldn't think four pounds would be sooo different, but it is like night and day :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 14, 2005, 18:15:35 pm
I can feel your pain (your back pain that it).  Aiden was 18 pounds 15 oz at his 4 month! I like him being so big though, he seems less breakable. A friend of mine's baby is 3 weeks younger and is 13 pounds. It was so strange holding him. I felt like I was holding a newborn!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 14, 2005, 20:28:35 pm
Maybe you guys can help me with these questions I have.

Regarding solids: 
I know you are suppose to nurse every 4 hours.  When you give solids are you suppose to nurse after as well?
Since our LO are starting solids can everyone post there routines so I can see if we are doing the whole solids thing right or not.  Thanks!


Regarding PU/PD:
Jency started taking two 2 hour naps almost constently last week (I had to pat him at the 30 & 45 min marks but that was it.  I stayed in there with him) , now he isn't. He wakes early and is happy. Do i go in and do pu/pd or do i wait until he is crying? He wakes so suddenly that I can't get him to go back to sleep by patting once he actually lifts his head (tummy sleeper). Yesturday it was after 30-45 min and I did pu/pd but he just screamed and screamed bloody murder for 15 min and then was only down for another 30-45 min. Then today he woke after something like 1 hour or 1 hour and 15 min. He was happy and talking so wasn't sure what to do. It was almost 1.5 hours so I got him up but then he expected to eat even though it had only been 3 hours and now he is a bear!!!. Should've I done pu/pd and made him go the full 2 hours? Since last week he was doing two 2 hour naps? (yesturday I didn't do pu/pd right and would put him down even when he was crying and didn't wait the 5 min to calm him that tracy suggests, he hated me and then wimpered in his sleep for 5 min! :cry: ) I feel bad now.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 14, 2005, 20:40:31 pm
We just got back from the dr.s visit and Jordon is doing really well.  Just shy of 16 ozs. and 25.5 inches long.....

He took his shots like a pro and fell asleep on me on the subway ride home... We have him so well trained on going to bed in his crib that I almost never get that feeling anymore, kinda miss it. 

As for those moms out there with the big babies, and the sore backs... I carry Jordon around in a peapod wrap, which puts most of the weight on my hips not my back or shoulders.  We walk in it, take salsa class in it and generally have fun in it.  I can carry him for hours like that and my back and shoulders feel great.  Maybe it would help you too?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 15, 2005, 03:36:28 am
just as dd's bowel movements became regular the paed suggested i put her back on cereal saying ' if she can digest fruits and veg's she can digest cereal and she needs the iron'...so now i'm just frusterated and i shouldn't have given it to her again - but i was just following dr's orders.  apparantly she is having a prob digesting cereal, maybe she has a sensitivity to grains?  they told me to put mineral oil in her cereal so her bm would just slide right out - but if it isn't being digested properly or quickly enough how will that really help?  she also has reflux so maybe that has something to do with it?  all these questions, and the dr can't even answer them - go figure.  guess i will have to stop solids completely again, wait for her to become 'normal' and then just start fruits and vegs again i guess - such a shame cuz she loves her solids...

now that i am done venting:
adria : usually u nurse, wait a half hour or so, give solids and u can give milk with the solids - or water 'to wash it down' - if u are having night wakings i would opt for the bm it will help with the xtra calories...but not a full feeding just enough to wash it all down. (u don't want to get him to start snacking)

4:30 or 5am nurse and back to sleep(altho this feeding i am feeding less   now trying to deter her from waking)                                             
8:00 or 8:15 wake and play by herself
8:30 or 9 am nurse
9:20 solids and a bit of h20 or bm
9:30 - 10:15 play!
10:30 sleep
12:30 change diaper play for a few minutes
by 12:45 nurse
1:15 solids and a bit of h20 or bm
1:30 - 2:15 play!
2:30 - 4 or 4:30 sleep
4:30 - 4:45 nurse
* if dd gets up at or before 4pm i will give her a catnap at 5 or so but before solids, and when she get up continue with the routine - it has been a bit out of whack these days with teething but just read your lo - sometimes it's 3 and a half hrs until a feeding sometimes it's as long as four and a half to five hours...which REALLY throws of the day..
5:15 catnap
6:00 wake and solids and a bit of h20 or bm
6:15 - 7:30 play!
7:30- 8:00 bath and massage
8:00 or 8:15 bf
8:30 wind down and sleep
11:00 dreamfeed (which i have been testing lately to see if i still need it)

good luck with your routine - mine isn't perfect but i hope it will help give u some idea!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 15, 2005, 14:37:02 pm
Tawnya,
I don't think that stopping solids completely is the best solution (but I am not a medical expert  :wink: ).  Maybe just do applesauce, prunes, sweet potatoes and pears for a while.  Those seem to keep things moving (sometimes faster than I want them to).  Have you considered oatmeal instead of rice cereal?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 15, 2005, 15:11:32 pm
Tawnya:
 Thus is what my mom told me to do & we do.  mix the cereal with the fruits & veggies.  Thanks for your help on the solids and nursing thing.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 15, 2005, 15:35:53 pm
How does this look!!  Please let me know what I should change or add or delete or what not!!  THanks!


4:00 Nurse
7:30/7:45 wake
8:00 nurse
8:15 solids (1oz right now) and water
9:15 Start wind down
9:45 sleep
11:15 Up
12:00 nurse (wondering if I should go to 11:30 and then solids at 1)
Want to start solids
1:00 Start wind down
1:30 – 3 Nap
4:00 nurse (wondering if I should go to 3:15 with moving last feed)
5:15 catnap
5:45 wake
5:30/6 Solids (2.5oz) and nurse
7:15/7:30 bath and massage
7:45/8 bottle
8:00 sleep
12:00 Nurse

(still eats 2 full meals at night, it’s fine with me as long as those are the only 2 times he wakes!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 15, 2005, 15:49:21 pm
i did give dd oatmeal before and it went well for a few weeks then she got really, really gassy...my very happy baby girl has one sensitive digestive system.  i am going to the doctor's today (family doctor - not paed) and will see what she says - i have given her the mineral oil twice but she still hasn't had a bm..someone on the site said to try udo's oil which my mom has in the fridge so maybe i should try that and it is probably healthier than the mineral oil...i don't really want to stop solids with her myself i feel like i am confusing her - now u get it - now u don't ya know?!  the paed just really made me feel bad for some reason by saying there is no reason she can't digest cereal if she can digest fruits & veggies - who knows - maybe it's hormones kicking in  :shock:

adria:
i would try offering a bit of milk with solids as that will get more calories in him and hopefully hold off a night feeding...if i do remember correctly u don't pump??...it might help trying it out - (i don't know where u are) but i know here u can rent a pump from the hospital if u don't want to dish out the money for something u aren't sure u r going to use - but it is convenient and helpful...but u have to get a good one or it may hurt!  :wink:
as far as the schedule it look good to me, just remember to follow ur lo's lead and if he's hungry after 3 and a half hrs - feed him - if he's not hungry til after 4 hrs, then wait as he will fill up more the hungrier he is.  at around 5 months my lo decided only to eat until it took the edge off cuz she was soo nosy and i guess gets bored..when i pump and give her a bottle after nursing she always seems to take at least an ounce more which has got to be the reason she started sleeping better through the night - only one wake up now!!!!!!  i'm starting to feel human again!!  another thing u may need to watch, make sure ds isn't taking in too much solids and not leaving enough room for bm...that will give u night wakings as well - really is trial and error though every lo is different!  good luck!  keep us updated!...and by the way congrats on getting down with the routine and getting ds to sleep in crib - what a great accomplishment!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 15, 2005, 16:48:16 pm
Hey all,

lo's going to get up any minute now so I'll be quick.... Jordon won't open up for the cereal.  As soon as I come at him with the spoon, his mouth slams shut and nothing else is getting in.  Any tips on getting him to open sesame?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 15, 2005, 17:02:13 pm
Good luck with the docters! I don't see why she has to start cereal if he isn't ready. Giving them with corn syrup is pointless because wouldn't it just slide right through her so to speak. So she isn't digesting them, just passing them. I know you can take iron supplements. But I am not a docter. So I hope your docter can come up with a better solution. And try to not let the docter make you feel bad. Obviously you know your little girl better that he does!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 15, 2005, 17:33:21 pm
Anyone else's lo crying out at night?  At first we thought that Luke was waking up, but he's just crying in his sleep.  Kinda makes a mama feel bad!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 15, 2005, 17:35:31 pm
Caeden seems to be the "runt" of this group -
He checked in at 14 pounds, 5 ounces and 26 inches tall.
I guess he is tall and skinny like his daddy!

Dr said he looks good and healthly and happy and all is well.
Got another set of shots and was fussy overnight and I am hoping it was just the shots and we will get our good nights back soon.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 15, 2005, 17:40:58 pm
Adria - your schedule looks good to me. I would echo what someone said to try and follow but allow a little room for adjustment.
I know I have had to sdjust mind a little and some day to day as well. It is quite a learning experience here!

Amy - Caeden also cries at night sometimes. I have found that I usually give him about 10 minutes and he is often "back to sleep or quiet" within that time before I go in. It is hard sometimes, but I know it is helping him put himself back to sleep on his own so it is not so bad. He also cries 5-10 minutes at night but that is also getting shorter each night too.

We are feeding 2-3 times a day - rice cereal and banana so far. Will try pears and sweet potatoes in the next week or so.
Has anyone tried any "finger" foods yet - peas or something? What are you doing? We tried peas last week and Caeden just gummed them and then gagged so we stopped but the dr said that some gagging is normal for something new - anyone else experience this?

Okay - I am so behind on Christmas I must go - I have 3 stocking to make still, packages that need to get in todays mail and a very dirty house. Plus all the stuff to wrap for in town...... but I did get cookies made!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 15, 2005, 18:59:34 pm
I was wondering about Cheerios....But I don't know if Luke could get them in his little fingers.  Might be fun to try!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 15, 2005, 20:36:29 pm
Amy- Aiden actually cried 2xs last night. Went right back to sleep but I don't think he was really awake. I was proud of him going back to sleep by himself!

Good luck with the finger foods. Seemed so far away but I guess that is right around the corner for us!

Now I am sad. My baby is growing up. :roll:  :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 15, 2005, 20:54:44 pm
A friend of mine is actually going through a depression b.c her almost 3 year old isn't a baby anymore. 

We have our shots on Monday, so I will ask the pedi then about stage 2 foods, cheerios, etc.

FYI-I gave Luke a sippy cup the other night to play with when he was sitting in his highchair.  He looked at it and looked at me like "Yeah?  What do you want ME to do with this?"
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 16, 2005, 03:39:44 am
amy - give him a few tries with the sippy - he may surprise u one of these times!  the family doctor agreed with what u said and said if she likes and can handle fruits and veg's go  - go to town - give her whatever she likes/wants..and if she can't handle cereal so be it!  she said not to feel bad b/c there are moms who just bf for up to the first year and they don't get iron supplements - as someone had said before - if it's not long term don't sweat it!..am a little relieved now...anyway, dd sometimes squeals/moans/whimpers in her sleep and once in awhile lets out a loud wail like she's screaming bloody murder than just goes back to sleep after a min or two of fussing - must be a bad dream or something.

i first started dd on jarred baby food and she took to it really well.  now that i'm settled and totally moved, i started making her some and the first time i introduced it she gagged and her face turned bright red lmao it was funny after i realize she wasn't actually choking!..new textures - a little thicker in consistancy probably threw her off, the next time i gave it to her she loved it tho!  still haven't tried her on any finger foods tho.

jennifer - caedan and alecksandria are pretty much the same weight and exactly the same height - we should both be thankful that we don't have sore backs to complain about!  :wink:

jordan's mom - just keep trying with the cereal but don't by any means force him, just give him a taste and if he doesn't want it try another day...or maybe try another food.  i just got annabel karmel's cookbook for babies and toddlers and they have an awesome meal plan in it...for first foods, seconds and so on..wish i had it from the beginning.

well, finally dd got her shots and she didn't even cry!  just a frown until she snatched the puppet from the nurse then it was all smiles again!  waited 5 hours in the waiting room and another hour to see the doctor once we got inside and somehow she stayed happy the whole time and even napped for 45 min!  she never ceases to amaze me these days....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 16, 2005, 04:02:41 am
5 hours!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 16, 2005, 04:32:10 am
i know everyone says it's crazy but my family doctor really is awesome - and while i am actually there waiting i'm annoyed but she really is worth the wait..i have been going to her since i was 11 yrs old...and now since the last 5 or 6 yrs apparantly everyone else is going to her as well :roll: before being pregnant and having dd i would usually just go once a yr for a physical, etc.

got a question?  what foods does everyone have to stay away from??  i have a lot of them but dd's absolute worst enemies are chocolate(of course  :cry: ), pop, tea, cauliflour...hmm wonder if i can sneak a piece or two of chocolate now that her gas is under control and hasn't bothered her in awhile... :twisted:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 16, 2005, 04:32:52 am
Anyone know why my lilypie won't work??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 16, 2005, 16:03:01 pm
I must have just read 6 million pages to catch up!! (obviously im prone to exagerate :oops: ) that'll teach me top leave it a week between checking this thread!!!

HORAY thomas actually slept in his own room last night :D  :D  :D  :D  we were putting it off as tom has been waking in the night every hr (hes had a bad cough and blocked nose but i also susspect hes teathing....hes been drooling for about 4 months and chewing his fist, so im sure there must be a toothy peg in their somewhere!!!!) anyway we decided to stop putting it off and just do it. We bought a nursery humidifier as i think the cough may be due to our heating, and he slept much better. Me and DH both went into him once in the night when he started to scream and twice between 6 and 7.30 (weve been naughty until now and got into the habit of bringing him into bed with us when he woke at 6 as we were SO tired :oops:  so i think hes started to expect it!!) He also woke twice and put himself back to sleep :D  :D  :D  :D . I didnt sleep too well as i spent all night missing him and listening out for crying but im sure it will get easyer and i AM glad to get my room back !!

Also plucked up the courage to ask someone from my baby group back for coffie... im quite shy but it gets a bit lonely on your own during the day... it makes me feel friendless!!!! Anyway she was feeling equally friendless, so i felt less like a saddo begging for friends!

Im jellous of all you having 6 month checkups... we had an 8 week one for his first jab and that was it (the next 2 jabs came from the nurse... with no checkup or chance to ask questions) Seeing the health visitor for weighing etc is optional and if i didnt go to my mother and baby group hed probably never get weighed and i would never see a health visitor!!! Anyway i should at least be greatful that he has no more jabs until hes 12 months as he had them all at 8, 12and 16 weeks!

Is anyone elses LOs suddenly eating their solids like crazy. Tom always seems to want more and eats about 5 oz of savory (about a jar full) and then the same of sweet every lunchtime.... and hed eat more if i offered it to him! He also has abot 5 oz at breactfast and 6 oz at tea pluss 4 8 oz bottles a day!!! Maybe its a growth spurt or maybe hes just a hungry boy!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 16, 2005, 16:54:15 pm
Luke has been couging a lot too, and it just dawned on me yesterday that it's from the heater!  We got a new humidifier and it seemed to work very well.

For all those mamas out there who have babies that don't like cereal...my nephew would not TOUCH the stuff and he is healthy as a horse.  He ate jar food like a champ, so my S-I-L just left it alone.  Their primary source of nutrition should be from formula/breast milk anyway, right?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 16, 2005, 17:42:54 pm
teezee- I can't drink milk (have to drink 6 doller a gallon soymilk), anything with caffeine or eggs. 

Alison congrats on moving him to his own bed. That is an accomplishment!!!!

I too discovered the humidefer! I want to sleep in his room now! My nose keeps getting dried out  in mine.


Question...how much solids are everyone's little ones taking. We just started them and he only eats breakfast now but i am not sur ehow much to give him.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 16, 2005, 18:17:40 pm
Tawnya - try using one of the other "address" lilliepie gives you - I Know they give you like 3 or 4 and it took me a couple tries before I got the right one.

Yeah for Tom sleeping in his crib!!!!

We are giving Caeden solids mid morning and dinner time - so far he is doing well. Had sweet potatoes for the first time last night and he LOVED them - just kept wanting more and more. Ate like 5-6 tablespoons I think. I haven't been measuring his food, just kinda eyeing it and seeing what he eats.

He also slept GREAT last night - nursed at 10:15 and then slept till 6  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  - I nursed again at 6 and he slept till 8!
Oh - yeah - now if it will just continue!

Okay - gotta go - have a great day all!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 16, 2005, 18:53:35 pm
We gradually added another "meal" as Luke got hungrier.  If he was getting hungry b/t bottles, we added a jar of food.  Now we're up to B, L, and D and he's doing great.  He was guzzling 10 - 11 oz per bottle and with his reflux, it was a nightmare!  Now he's back to the normal 6-8 oz per bottle with the three meals.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 16, 2005, 21:53:59 pm
I finally have my DD 6 months stats!

She grew like crazy in the last two months. She is now 17lbs and 7 oz, and is 27" long. Her last visit she was 14 lbs and 24.5 ".  She did okay with the needles.  She cried for a bit but was fine by the time I got her dressed and out of the room.

Glad they are over for 6 MONTHS!!! YEAH.

She is looking like she will be crawling by Christmas. As much as it will be fun to see, I kind of dread her being mobile. I think she is going to be a little s*#t.

She does well with her solids but doesn't eat as much as Tom!  He is a big eater. She has 4 6-7oz bottles a day plus solids at all three meals. She usually  eats 2-4 oz of solids at each meal.  She went through a spurt with the solid food where it seemed like I couldn't fill her but then she would puke a little bit up. I don't think she knows about self control.  Probably got that from me or my husband. We both like our food.

The doctor said we could add spices to her food and if we wanted she could have meat but she said she doesn't have to have any meat if we don't want to even up to a year old. I think I will slowly introduce it because I don't want her to not get to try things.  She tried peaches this morning and really liked them.

Has anyone tried finger foods? Aren't they a little young? I am worried she will choke.  I would love to hear more about this though.

Cheers,
Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 16, 2005, 22:10:56 pm
Our dr said not till 8 months, so I am definitely sticking with that.  She just seems so little ( :roll: @ 19 lbs) to be eating finger foods.

Hey, Amy!!  I am starting today with the three meals.  She has been so fussy lately that I am hoping that having a fuller tummy will help her out.  Amazing this morning, she ate her normal amount of cereal, a 6 oz bottle and half a jar of peaches (stage 1) and took a 2 hour nap.  aaaahhhhhh!!!!  Peace in the kingdom.....nothing better!!!!

I am working with her with sitting up....we are making little baby step progress.  Still doesn't like being on her tummy, she rolls right over onto her back.  Anyone else in size 12 mo clothes?

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 16, 2005, 22:14:19 pm
Yea BJ!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 16, 2005, 23:42:59 pm
OKay I'm really confused!
Why are you feeding your lo Savory?
Isn't that an herb.  At least that's the only form I've ever seen it in.

Jency did a full week of 2 two hour naps and only waking 3-4 times a night (putting self back to sleep once, feeding twice, and one other time)
But this week he seems to have forgoten it.  He wakes up so happy and ready to meet the world and then I have to do pu/pd and he gets SO mad and then whimpers in his sleep for like 5 min once he goes back down.  But today he only got like 45min of broken naps before 2 pm (out and about) and now he has been asleep for 2.5 hours!!  I had to pat his bottom 2x at the 45 min marks because he started to cry in his sleep, but that is it!  I'm just going to let him sleep a little longer because it was such a big day.

He is scooting ALL over the place and trying so hard to crawl.  He tries but then gets frustrated because he doesn't go anywhere.  He is also trying to sit up.

I got to weigh him yesturday and he is 17# 8 and 26.5" long.  He is only 5.5 months (exactly that day).  He is huge!!!  We are getting a new carseat for his Christmas present this weekend.

Jency really has liked his solids lately but I"m not sure how much to give him.  What are you all giving your lo to eat?  I am giving him the basics but I want to be more creative and saw that some of you are giving papya and stuff.  Cool!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 16, 2005, 23:57:20 pm
Quote from: LeslieG

Has anyone tried finger foods? Aren't they a little young? I am worried she will choke.  I would love to hear more about this though.

Cheers,
Leslie


I am curious about this too.........
he gagged on the peas the first time we tried that but dr said that it is normal and give him a couple tries and jsut watch him till he gets the hang of it and that it is hard to choke on peas!


We are in 3-6 months clothes mostly with some 6-9 here and there. Moving towards 6-9 but the 3-6 still fit mostly

We too are working on crawling, tries so hard, just hasn't gotten his legs under himself yet.

I think too we may be looking at a new carseat for Christmas...... :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 17, 2005, 00:43:55 am
My LO is in 9/12 month stuff but it is strange. She wears 12 month undershirts and some of her 12 month stuff is smaller than her 9 month stuff. I think it all depends on who made it.

She is in cloth diapers so we usually dress her in bigger stuff to fit around the diaper.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 17, 2005, 02:12:43 am
Jake is defiantly in 12 mo. clothes! A few of the 6-9 mo. clothes fit, but not the one piece outfits... they are too short and the buttons always pop open :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 17, 2005, 02:55:01 am
Aiden is in 12 month (sometimes 18!!!!) I really think soembody should redo the sizing on baby clothes. Aiden will be in toddler clothes before I know it!

For everyone that is looking for new carseats I would recomend this one!!! We have used it since he was born and it is so comfy. The straps adjust in the front so depending on whether he is in his coat or whatever I can fix it. Just wanted to throw that out there.

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=br_1_2/602-2875519-4402269?%5Fencoding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B0001XKC4K

So how much solids are they eating at one sitting? I have heard that they will stop when they are full but also that you should limit them because they won't. And so they don't fill up on solids and not have enough milk.  \

Aiden is trying to get his legs up under him, so cute. I tried to help him to day and put my hand under him but when I do he straigtens his legs and his whole back end goes up in the air. :roll:  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 17, 2005, 03:27:31 am
Hi everyone.

What a read!! my goodness you mamas have been busy.  We made it to our destination and owen was such a good little camper.

Wow, I feel so alone in the non solid world.  Is there anyone else who isn't giving their lo solids?  I tried once and he didn't like it.... i think i may try again soon.

Also, as far as sizing baby clothes... it's a conspiracy.  They make you think you need a certain size so that you end up buying more of everything!  That's why I buy almost exclusively second hand, unless it is a gift.  Don't mean to cheap out on the little guy, it just seems frivilous.

And I find Owen does take a larger size because of the cloth diapers.  They are just bulkier than the disposables.

Missed you all!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 17, 2005, 03:33:31 am
That is not "cheaping" out, that is smart shopping!!!  They grow out of their clothes so darn fast that it is senseless to spend tons of money on clothes they may only wear for a couple of months/weeks at best.

Plus....with all of the introductions of "solids" the clothes aren't looking so "snazzy" if you KWIM.  :roll:   Couldn't find the box with the bibs packed in it...yep yep yep.  No amount of stain remover is going to help these clothes.

Did I tell you that I bought an avacado and some bananas?  I think I am going to try the avacado tomorrow.  If nothing else, I will just turn into guacamole and eat it myself!!  LOL.

Glad your back, daisy.  That's great that Owen did so well, congrats.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 17, 2005, 03:40:12 am
Be careful of Sweet Potatos!!
They stain BAD!
Title: newcomer...need lots of advice!
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 17, 2005, 05:13:13 am
Howdy!  I have been at BW techniques (pu/pd) for about 2 weeks now and the nights are not getting ANY better!!!!!!  I will gladly take any suggestions at this point!!!!!  Here is a rough idea of what nights are like at my house so you can get an idea of what baby Brock's schedule is....

6:00- bottle, 6 oz, formula
7:00- bedtime, never fusses, goes right down
between 10:30 and 11:00- DF, an entire 6 oz
*some nights goes right back down with no fussing after df, other nights it can take up to 30 minutes shushing/patting, pu/pd to get him back to sleep
2:00-fussing/crying/awake
* shush and patt for about 5-10 minutes, back to sleep
between 2:45 and 4:00- fussing/crying/awake
*if its on the earlier side, I shush and patt, pu/pd again, if its later, i simply pick him up and bring him into bed with my dh and I until we get up for work at 5:30.  he usually goes right back to sleep in bed with us

he has been eating solids for about 3 weeks now and loves them!  he take 2 naps a day both for at least an hour, usually one at 11/2-2 hours and the other for a bit shorter.

help?  need sleep!!   :cry: dh is useless at nights and therefore it is pretty much just me!

thanks!
-brock's mom  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 17, 2005, 15:23:35 pm
Brock's mom-how old is Brock?  I think before any of us can even start suggestions, we need that bit of info.

Great job on the "going down without a fuss" at bedtime!  I can NOT get Cait to go to sleep on her own for anything.   :roll:   So you already have an advantage over me. 

Let us know his age, we have alot of great moms on this thread that give great advice.  (we also have a wide range of baby ages, which is why I am asking his age.)

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 17, 2005, 15:56:33 pm
We have the same car seat as Superman's Mom...in fact we have TWO.  It's GREAT!  Luke was too long for his infant carrier in October, so we had to get them then.  I love them.

In case any of you are still wondering how to get off those last few baby pounds, I have found that the flu works wonders for your figure.  :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 17, 2005, 16:01:08 pm
Maybe he's hungry.  I know that Tracy says that babies can go until morning but some babies are the exception.  Jency used to eat every 3 hours at night, on the dot.  Now he wakes twice.  The first time he really is very hungry the second time he eats but not as much.  So this is what our nights look like.

8:00pm bed
11:30-12:00 feed
3:30-4:00 feed
7:00-7:30 up

I think here in a month or so we are going to start making him do two 6 hour stretches.  He is Breastfed.

But like Amy said we really need to know the age!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 17, 2005, 16:05:03 pm
Quote from: bj,ry&cait
Did I tell you that I bought an avacado and some bananas?  I think I am going to try the avacado tomorrow.  If nothing else, I will just turn into guacamole and eat it myself!!  LOL.

Glad your back, daisy.  That's great that Owen did so well, congrats.

bj

My DD didn't eat the avacado but I had yummy guacamole for a couple of days :-)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 17, 2005, 16:38:42 pm
Send me some I've been craving guacamole  :wink:...

Brock's Mom- I think maybe he might be hungry as well. Aiden still eats once or twice a night(but no df). You might also try to stop the dreamfeed especially if he is waking up and hard to put down. I found it only distrubed Aiden's sleep. So I dropped it and he still woke up at thesame time but it gradualy moved back. I stopped worrying about whether he should or shouldn't be up at night and just fed him when he woke up. He is doing better and better. Last night he went 8 hours by himself! Now if only I could sleep.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 17, 2005, 16:49:25 pm
thanks so much for all the great advice already!

Brock is 5 and a half months.  He was born June 28th.

I am hesitant to believe he is more hungry at night because we actually just started the df 2 weeks ago.  before he was going almost 11 hours without a feeding.  However, at that time he would wake at around midnight and then every hour on the hour after midnight.  He usually doesn't wake again after I bring him in bed with us at around 3:00am.  I know this is the wrong solution to bring him in with us but i am just so exhausted that i end up giving in.

thanks again, i appreciate your help!

-brock's mom (christine)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 17, 2005, 16:51:35 pm
Brock's mom,
Do you use a pacifier?  If you do, have you considered getting rid of it?  We had to do that with Luke not too long ago because it was waking him up.  The first nap was HELL, but after that it's been smooth sailing.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 17, 2005, 16:53:41 pm
one more thing, Brock's mom,
How many times a day does he get his solids?  We had to add a meal b/c Luke needed more calories.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 17, 2005, 17:13:23 pm
yes. he does use a pacifier.  i guess i have to give in and lose it all together, right?  he doesn't rely on it that much.  once he has fallen asleep, i remove it but then i put it back in when he wakes up again, and remove it again, once he falls back asleep...

another mom suggested adding a solid feeding in the chat room last night and i am going to try today.  until now he has only had 2 servings of solids a day, once for breakfast and once for dinner.  today i am going to try and add a lunch time solid feeding and see if that helps.

-christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 17, 2005, 21:00:43 pm
Christine, I'm telling you...getting rid of the paci solved SO many sleep issues for us.  Luke was waking up at 3, 3:30, 4, 4:30, 5, 5:30 and we'd finally get up and feed him at 6.  Once we got rid of the paci he slept for 12 or 13 hours STRAIGHT!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 18, 2005, 00:48:54 am
Wow!  That sounds wonderful!  Why is it that getting rid of the paci causes them to sleep better?  I will definitely try it tonight and see how it works.

thanks,
christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 18, 2005, 00:59:21 am
My theory is this...
You know how sometimes you fall asleep with your glasses on, or you have something in your hand and THAT wakes you up?  I think that the paci was doing the same thing for Luke.  He was in a light sleep stage of his sleep cycle and the paci would be just enough stimulation to wake him up.  I gotta warn you that the first couple of times might be rough, but it is so worth it in the long run, if in fact that is what is waking your lo up.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 18, 2005, 03:11:18 am
I agree with Amy.  It could be the pacifier.
And you don't have to give it up completely.
We stopped using for while he was sleeping and stuff but we still use it for his cool down time and when we are out and about and when he starts to fuss around the house.  He likes to play with it too.  So you don't have to get rid of it all together, just when it comes to relating it to sleep.

Also, sleep is a developemental thing.  Some babies master it sooner then others.  I know of babies that sleep through the night at 3 weeks and yet others that are 2 and still don't sleep through the night.  They wake up at least once a night still for a glass of water, or to go to the bathroom, or any excuse to get up.  It has alot to do with personality.  Like Tracy says Spirited babies will be this way, it's just part of who they are.  What type is your lo.

Jency was born June 30th and just last night only woke up 2x for the first time since he was 2 months old.  We went through 3 months of 5-6 or more times a night then 2 weeks of 3-4 times a night and then last night was 2x!  I hope he keeps it up.  He also just started taking naps that are longer then 45min (with help from mom patting).
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 18, 2005, 03:58:30 am
thanks to you both for the great advice.  I am exhausted but this supposrt/advie has already inspired me to keep going with pu/pd.

Brock just fell asleep about an hour ago, without his paci, but going to sleep at night is never an issue.  like i said earlier, he goes right down at 7:00 with no pu/pd needed.  We will see how he does without the paci being offered to him at all tonight (even when he wakes back up).

I also gave him another serving of solids at lunch.  He didn't have a very good afternoon nap (only 50 minutes).  But, his morning nap was great!!  He woke once about an hour into the nap, i patted and shushed and he fell right back to sleep for another 50 minutes!!!  I had to wake him for his next feeding!!  I was so happy!!  I was thinking that maybe his long morning nap was the reason he didn't take a long afternoon nap.

I am not sure what kind of baby he is.  He is usually VERY happy, playful, and content during the day.  He only tends to get fussy at sleep times.

I will let you know how tonight goes.  cross your fingers that i get more than 3 hours of sleep in a row!

thanks, again for all the suggestions!
-christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 18, 2005, 19:17:43 pm
Quote (selected)
Has anyone tried finger foods? Aren't they a little young? I am worried she will choke. I would love to hear more about this though
.

Our health visitor said you could try finger foods once your lo can sit up by themselves (i dont think they have to be actually sitting while they have them, they can be on your lap or in a high chair, but they should have enough strength in their back so they dont choke!). Tom has been eating finger foods for 2 weeks now, and he loves them. We only give him rice cakes or rusks, as these desolve well and shouldnt cause choking as long as they are supervised. Because tom has always sat at the table with us he pritty much new what to do with it as soon as we gave it to him. Trouble is now if he sees anyone eating with there hands he trys to steal their food!!! Yesterday he practically mountinered over me (catterpiller style as he cant crawl yet) to get to DH who was eating apple slices!! In the end we let him suck a piece (no teath yet so cant bite off a chunk to choke on!), but he wasnt happy when we took it away!! :cry:

Talking of new food, weve just started tom on baby yogerts, he loves them! :D  As hes such a big eater we were running out of new deserts to give him (he has savory then sweet at lunch and tea) and its also good for calcium now he doesnt have so much formula. BTW apparently once our los reach 6 months my hv said they only need to take about a pint (20oz) of formula a day (more if they want!!) and some of that can be added to food!! I find this encouraging as tom will chose solids over milk anyday and i was worried he was not getting enough (he drinks about26-28oz of milk a day)

Hope you all had a good weekend! :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 18, 2005, 21:37:00 pm
Alison:  What is this Savory that you are talking about?
The only form of Savory that I know of is an herb.
I'm just courious because I've never seen a jar of baby food labled Savory.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 19, 2005, 00:59:48 am
Adria's 1st- Savoury in the case of the british folks refers more to the flavor of the food as opposed to the herb.  Savoury would be the opposite of sweet, so for example meat dishes would be considered savoury as well as peas or potatoes (not sweet ones of course).   

To the ladies across the pond- Did I get that right?

daisymelan- We started Jordon on his solids this week and he's just not that into the idea of eating from a spoon.  I'm pretty lucky if I can get a teaspoon of food into him in a feeding.  He's had the rice cereal and we started sweet potatoes this week, which I think he liked, the rice cereal is a bit bland, but I think he'll get more into it as time goes on. 

Alison toms mum- our doctor here said not to give the rice husks until 8mos. As they have sugar in them.  She is generally of the opinion not to move onto finger foods until around then anyways, so we will just play it by ear.

For those mums having trouble with their babies waking up a lot in the night, if your babes are still being breastfed, our dr recommended having dad or someone else go into the room as when they smell your milk babies can wake up even more hoping for the feed.  It worked for us in cutting down the amount of times he woke up as well as it gave me a bit of a break.  We set a clock rule, If he woke up before 3am, dh went in, if it was after then I did (he should be hungry by then anyways), of course, we still do a df.

4 more days till we begin the eastern Canada road trip for the holidays...I'm so not ready for Christmas.   Hope everyone had a good weekend.

Cheers
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 19, 2005, 03:06:23 am
I think I am going to have to add the dream feed back in for a little while.  He's been waking up consistently at 11 or 12 hungry.  I know it's the hungry cry and not just a "hey, come in here and play with me now" cry.  I guess he's just growing.  He did ok for a couple of weeks without the df, but it's not working without it anymore.

Any thoughts?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 19, 2005, 03:55:38 am
Brock did OK, last night.  Went down at 7 with no paci.  Woke for a feeding at midnight and went back down at about 12:40.  Woke back up at 3:00, shushed and patted him back to sleep, woke again at 3:45.  When he only sleeps for this short amout of time, I know he is ready tobe out of his crib.  So...I brought him in bed wiht us and he slept until 6:30!

His naps are getting much better!  Today he took a 2 hour UNINTERUPTED morning nap (I actually had ot wake him for his 11:00 feeeding).  Yipee!  This afternoon he took an hour and 15 minute nap with only one interuption that was instantly solved by shushing and patting.

I think I am going to really try and do the pu/pd tongiht when he wakes at around 3:00, instead of just bringing him in with us.  I am sure it is going to be very hard.

He has had NO problems with the extra serving of solids for the past 2 days and gobbles it right up.  My new question revolves around his new schedule:

7-bottle
8-solids
9-nap
11-bottle
12-solids
1-nap
3-bottle
5-solids
6-bottle
7-bedtime

so...when do i get my necessary errands in or even just get to leave the house?  before i started with the noon time solids i would have from about 11:30-1:00 to get things done outside the house.  i could do them from 3:30-5:00, but I thought one of Tracy's recommendations is to stay home and be "mellow" after 2:00 in the afternoon.  do i have to wait an hour after his bottle to give him solids?

sorry, this is so long.  once agin, i really appreciate all the advice!

-christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 19, 2005, 04:23:36 am
hope everyone's weekends have been GREAT - been super busy doing all this great last minute christmas shopping and visiting with family.  don't have too much time but just wanted to say love the new avator amy- so cute and yours too adria!  i may try withholding the paci too.  altho i don't know if i have enough courage until after the holidays...with all the travelling, visiting, etc that is scary enough on its own.  i read a post on one of the other forums about night wakings and they said for formula fed babies to water down or dilute the formula their lo's take at night...for bf lo's to just decrease the amount of time their lo's feed in the middle of the night...to take them off when they stop REALLY gulping the milk.  i have been trying that and she seems to sleep a little bit better - we will see it has only been a few days now - just thought u guys might be interested.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 19, 2005, 10:55:07 am
:lol:  :lol:  sorry! it never occoured to me that it was a british thing to call non sweet food savory... especially as ive never heard of a herb by that name!

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our doctor here said not to give the rice husks until 8mos. As they have sugar in them. She is generally of the opinion not to move onto finger foods until around then anyways, so we will just play it by ear.
I think as far as finger foods go your probably best doing what you feel comfortable with, and i know recomendations are different on all things baby depending on where you are in the world!!! Im quite happy giving finger food as tom has no problem with it, although i was sceptical at first that he was old enough! BTW the rice cakes i give him have no sugar (i always check the ingredients before i buy) they are cow and gate and made especially for babies (the baby yogert DOES have some sugar in it... but ive noticed many sweet comercial baby foods in the uk...such as pureed apple... does :? , as i mostly make my own food i suppose SOME sugar in yogert wont hurt).

christine you dont have to leave a gap between milk feeds and solid feeds if you dont want to, some mums find their los take their solids better with the bottle some without. We started by giving tom a litle bottle to get rid of the imediate hunger, some food and then filled him up by giving him the rest of the bottle he tended to eat the solids more redily when he was hungry. He now has his bottle seperatly from his solids as we try to give his solids at the same time as we eat...  he also preferes the solids to the bottle so if we give them at the same time he doesnt drink as much milk!we already had a well established routine however, and if your just introducing a routine you may find it easyer to give bottle and food together,itll also give you more time to do housework (although tom constantly wants to be played with so i do very litle housework at the mo! :(  :oops: )
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 19, 2005, 18:11:59 pm
Oh my goodness, my parents have the slowest pc in the world.  It's high speed but i feel like i have dial up from 1998.  Anyway, it's worth the struggle to get to hear from all of you!!!!!

Amy, I remember your struggle with the paci and i think that's great advice that you've given.  The other thing I noticed jacob's mom is the short naps, but you seem to have been working on that too.

And jordan's mom.... where are you going east?  I went from Saint John, NB to New Liskeard, ON.  just curious.

We have been giving solids here still... only once a day, and he still doesn't like the rice cereal... I think we've tried it three or four times now.  Should I maybe move on to something else?  Another cereal???  Or a veggie??  I left all my info at home (arg) and now I don't konw what I should offer or anything at all.  We tried the sippy cup and he caught on right away.  Wish the food went as smoothly.

On a great note... as some of you may remember, we always have a hard time getting owen down for his night sleep, but never for naps.  Since I've been here we haven't been stressing his bed time and he's been going down at 9:30ish.  Well lo and behold... he's going down so easily.  We just put him in his crib and voila!  He is waking up now around 9 so I think maybe instead of forcing him to go 8-8, we'll just go more on his own schedule.  It's so nice. 

I love being near my parents.   They babysat for dh and I (went to see Walk the Line and loved it)  It's the first time we've had a babysitter!  It was awesome!

Ok, that's my novel for now.  But please let me know what you guys think about the solids.  All you expert BW!!!!!

Hope your holiday seasons are everything you were hoping for lo's first!

Jodie

LOL the savoury discussion!! haha
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on December 19, 2005, 19:13:25 pm
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on in a while.  The Christmas shopping and cookie making has been taking up all of my days!!

Anywhoooo, last Saturday was my first night ever without the baby.  We left him at home with my mom babysitting.  I felt wierd not having anything to worry about.  And I felt good for being able to let loose, and THEN I felt guilty for feeling good!!  It was so much so that I spent all Sunday cuddling ds, like making up for it.  I know, I know I'm a spaz!

How has everyone been?  Ds is still only eating fruits, but I want to start some veggies.  Unfortunately my doc is out of town unil January and I won't do it until she gives me the go-ahead.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 19, 2005, 19:47:44 pm
Daisymelan, I posted this a while back...

For all those mamas out there who have babies that don't like cereal...my nephew would not TOUCH the stuff and he is healthy as a horse. He ate jar food like a champ, so my S-I-L just left it alone. Their primary source of nutrition should be from formula/breast milk anyway, right?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 19, 2005, 22:05:01 pm
We just got home from the doc.  Luke is 18lbs and 27 1/2 inches long.  He had three immunizations and a flu shot.  I cried this time b/c he cried so hard.  Poor guy was asleep before we were out of the parking lot!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 20, 2005, 00:27:46 am
Sorry to do three in a row...but I had to share.  My pedi gave us the green light to start meats.  I had a jar of chicken with broth and after his first bite it was VERY obvious that he did NOT like it.  He puckered his face up and even shook.  It was too funny! I even tried mixing it with a little bit of applesauce and he would have none of it!

Anyone know if the combination stuff is better?  Like Chicken and rice, chicken with applesauce....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 20, 2005, 03:42:13 am
amy- Luke is adorable!!  I keep meaning to write that every time I see the pic. you have of him next to your posts.  how old is he?  how long has he been eating solids?

on another more serious note-

I was giving Brock a bath tonight and noticed lots of little red dots on his belly and the outside of his left thigh.  i saw a few on his thigh early last week but they just looked like little baby acne.  there are none anywhere near his privates or bottom and he is not acting fussy or uncomfotable.  he doesn't itch them and he doesn't have a fever.  i am going to call the doctor tomorrow but i thought I would ask other moms if they have seen anything like this with there lo's.  he doesn't have any signs that it is an allergy but i don't know what else it could be.  :?  any thoughts?????

thanks!
-christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 20, 2005, 12:47:14 pm
christine.. tom gets litle spots sometimes, almost like a rash. they are often on his face so i assumed they are a teathing rash. Probably nothing to worry about if not itchy, but to be on the safe side i always push on rashes gently with a glass, if they disapear with the pressure its prob ok but if you dont you should get your lo checked for other symptoms of meningitus to be on the safe side.

amystokertom wasnt keen on meet to start with, as i think its a bit dry (even the jars) and less sweet than veg. I mixed my chicken with pureed potatos and carrots, and he now woolfs it down quite happily, althought i only give it him a couple of times a week... i want to start slow. He has also had the jared variety which was mixed with sweet potato and he liked that aswell

daisymelan if your lo still wont take rice cerial you could try mixing some apple or pear puree with it,its too bland for some babies on its own. Otherwise you could just give apple, pear or carrot puree and see if that goes down better.

Ive got to go to the dr today to see a councilour, i was refered ages ago when i was feel.ing really down, and im dreading it! ive started to feel much better and im worried talking to a councilour will stir up old emotions! it doesnt help that dh has his work do tonight i'll be alone at home with tom until about 9.00 :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 20, 2005, 13:18:26 pm
Thanks for the compliment.  I kinda think he's cute too  :D  Luke's birthday is June 10.  He started on cereal the week before he turned four months, and on veggies about a week and a half after that.  He's really not as chubby as that picture makes him look.  He's actually rather lean, but he's LONG!

OK, it's official.  We need to put the dream feed back in. He's waking up at 11 or 12 hungry.  I know he's hungry b/c when we do the df, he sleeps through, so I know he's not just waking up to wake up.  Anyone else still doing one?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 20, 2005, 15:09:18 pm
daisymelan- We're going to the Eastern Townships, about an hour east of montreal then to the Ottawa Valley before coming back to the T-dot.  We're expecting decent weather for the drive so I'm hoping for a good drive.

As for the cereal issue, my lo doesn't really like it a whole bunch either, but this morning he ate more than he ever had before so I think he's getting used to it.  I've bought a box of oat cereal to try next.  He's eaten enough so that I know there is no allergic reaction to it, so I may just move on to something else to see if he prefers the other.  I haven't introduced fruits yet, as my dr said to do veg first.  It's a sweet thing, apparently if they get too into the sweeter stuff it can be hard to get them to eat veggies that aren't sweet... whatever.  It's all opinions at this point I think.  That said we are starting peas this weekend.  He really seems into the sweet potatoes.  v. messy.

Amy- We're still doing the dreamfeed.  I never saw a need to take it out, and it's working for us.  I switched him to formula at 5 months and with the dreamfeed (which he wakes up during now, but goes right back to sleep) he sleeps for almost 12 hours.  I'm not messing with a good thing!

Still no teeth here but was pretty crabby yesterday so I keep checking thinking they'll pop in any minute now.  "All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth...."

Cheers everyone....
BTW, my name is Judy.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 20, 2005, 17:26:18 pm
What an awful night!  Not sure what's going on, but Owen was up for a couple hours very unhappy...  maybe it's teeth?  Not too sure, but I hope he sleeps better tonight.  It's tough with dh, lo and I all in the same bedroom.  I actually kicked dh out last night in hopes that Owen wouldn't wake, but after two hours of me consoling him, I called on the troops and dh had the magic touch.

Alison.  I'm sure you'll feel much better after your chat.  It may be draining, but it will likely feel good.  I know that I always feel better after talking with my consellor.  Hang in there, it's great that you are seeking out help, even if you think it has passed, it's better to talk and figure it out.

And thanks for the advice amy and Judy.  I know that stuff has been posted earlier, but as we're a little behind in age, I come to everyones problems a month later.  *sigh*

BTW Judy, I love the Bob Marley onesie!  And Luke is definately a cutie!!!

Rebeca,  good stuff on getting away for a night.  BTW, how did the modeling apt go?  I don't remember hearing anymore about it.  Your lo is sure cute.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 20, 2005, 17:40:29 pm
amy-
thanks for the advice about the cup.  I have never heard of that before.  they have actually faded this morning...its so weird!  i am going to keep an eye on them today and if there is no improvement, call the doctor tonight.

anyone who can help-
last night Brock went from 7:00-3:00 without waking up!  Yipee!  Now if I had only gone ot bed at 7 with him and not waited until 10:00, I would have gotten a normal nights sleep for the first time in 5 months!  But, who wants to go to sleep when the sun is just setting?  this means that he didn't get a df.  he also didn't eat until 7:00 this morning.  this means he went 12 hours without eating!  CRAZY!!

here's my question...are we supposed to wake them for the df or jsut wait for them to wake up hungry?  we have been waiting for him to wake up and sometimes its 10:00, somtimes 10:30, sometimes not until midnight.  last night was great but then he was WIDE awake at 3:00 and it took me FOREVER (an hour and a half) to get him back to sleep.  should i have given him a bottle at 3:00?

thanks,
-christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 20, 2005, 17:46:32 pm
Hi all,

We too have been having some rough nights. DD woke last night at 1:15 and then again at 4ish and then up at 7am. This isn't like her so either it is teeth or a growth spurt. I have tried to up her food during the day but that isn't working so I think it is teeth.  I am soooo tired because I haven't been sleeping at all. I think it has to do with Christmas and thinking a lot about my mom. (She was diagnosed with ovarian cancer this summer)

DD has had more night wakings this week then in a very long time ...

Hope it calms down soon. 

Regarding the red dots...my DD had them too and it was like a heat rash. I think it was because I had her dressed either too warm or because the sleeper she was in wasn't washed first after I bought it.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 20, 2005, 18:31:34 pm
Im still doing the dream feed aswell, he still eats 8 oz at it so i dont want to quit yet! probably will in jan... hes never very hungry at breactfast so maybe thats why!!

About the dreamfeed... you dont have to wake baby atall, we go in at 10.00pm, lift tom gently out of his cot still asleep and gently put the bottlle in his mouth, he automatically starts sucking and stops when hes had enough. Its meant to be possible while bf aswell, tho i never managed it!

the councillour was actually really useful, i had a few tears about my mum , but overall feel beter for it :) 

anyway toms bath is calling so better go!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 20, 2005, 18:32:42 pm
BTW i love all your new pics, imust replace mine... he was only a few months old in that pic! :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 20, 2005, 19:14:54 pm
Oh - I had missed alot not checking i n the last few day......

We do still DF, I usually wait till he wakes up cause we are normally in bed by then anyway.- he typically wakes between 10-12.

We have been doing 2 meals a day but I may try 3 and see what he thinks. So far we have had rice cereal, sweet potatoes, bananas and pears. I have an avacado to try too. We have tried some rice rusks, likes them but usually misses his mouth. And some Gerber finger puff things. Again, he plays more then eats, but I think it is helping him figure out what to do with the food. Any other ideas for finger foods that DON'T have sugar? Both of the above do have a little, though I am okay at this point with it as long he is only has them occassionally.

Oh - Amy - Luke is a cutie - I love the picture - I will try and get a new one up sometime soon too,

Christine - on the rash, I would keep an eye on it, though it may just be a heat rash, it could be food allergy so especially as we are introducing new foods watch how they respond and I have been told that a rash could be a food allergy of some sort.

I often mix his cereal with pears, bananas or sweet potatoes. Since he really like them and the rice cereal is kinda boring...... I figure it helps get some of those calories into him too.

Are you guys making your own food or buying jars? So far I have done some of each but I am hoping to make more after the holidays and I have more free time.

Have a good day!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 20, 2005, 22:04:15 pm
JARS!  As a working mom, I barely have time to buy the jars let alone make my own  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 21, 2005, 06:31:16 am
Hi im writing this at a ridiculously early hr in the morning as i cant slee (tom can i cant :roll: )

I found out some really sad news yesterday , our friends found out they have lost their baby at their 12 week scan. Were not that close to them, but they are lovely people and i really feel for them.

Also our closest friends found out their baby, withch is due in march may be in danger. Tracy has pregnancy diabeties but they now think she may have an illness that is stoping her liver working and poisoning the baby. She has an apoibntment at the hospital tomorow. I just feel so helpless. Mike and Tracy have been trying to start a family for the past 2 years and had countless fatility tests aswell as early miscarages etc. Tracy finally became pregnantat exactly the time tom was born and her and mike already love the baby so much, i dont know wshat any of us would do if something happened. All i can do is pray for them, which i am doing ,and ask that if any of you are religious you will to. Otherwise please firmly cross your fingers for them.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 21, 2005, 13:21:07 pm
Alison-so sorry for the sad news....I will keep them in mind.

Amy-here here, g/f!!  I will second your notion on barely having time to buy the jars much less MAKE food.  Please....here lately, if it doesn't say chicken nuggets from Tyson and frozen, poor Ryan doesn't eat.  :oops:   However, I did buy that avacado.......yep, sitting on the counter still and now is probably TOO ripe to feed to her.   :roll:   I can't win for losing.


On a more positive note.....I AM DONE WITH XMAS SHOPPING.   :lol:  :D  :shock:  :shock:   I actually bought for everyone I wanted to buy for and I am done done done.  I even wrapped all of Dh's yesterday when we swapped kids and he went shopping for me.  Even though I could have really used a nap...I went ahead and wrapped.  Still hard to believe that xmas is in 4 days.  Where did that time go?

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 21, 2005, 14:46:30 pm
Lots of prayers coming Alison....keep us posted.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 21, 2005, 15:13:40 pm
We put Luke down for his 5:00 cat nap yesterday....he finally woke up at 9!!!!!!! :shock: We changed his diaper and put on his jammies and he was asleep during the bottle.  He woke up at 5 this morning and took a 2 hour nap at 7.  Guess I wore him out.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 21, 2005, 16:17:26 pm
alison- I'm so sorry to hear about your friends.  Having gone through the hell that is fertility treatment and multiple miscarriages I have some inkling of what they are going through.  My prayers are with them and I hope that everything works out for the friends who are due in March.

I wish I could offer some words of wisdom to pass along, but truth be told, I don't have any.  I'm just thankfull everyday for the gifts that I have been given and pray for strength to cope with whatever the Lord passes my way.

Hugs to you, and your friends.
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 22, 2005, 03:02:30 am
Alison,
I've been thinking all day about your friends.  Having gone through a miscarriage myself, I know that there is absolutely nothing anyone can say to make them feel better.  The only thing that I found any kind of solace in was that it was God's way of taking care of a baby that would not have done well in this world.  I know that I will have another child in heaven when I get there....I also thought of it as my mom getting a grandchild to be with her in heaven as well.

As for your friend with gestational diabetes, we live in a world with amazing medical techinques and I just know in my heart that they will be able to help her!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 22, 2005, 03:54:24 am
cookies, presents and family - oh my!  it just hasn't stopped around here it seems. 
  dd now has both teeth fully erupted and it seems her bottom eye teeth aren't too far behind - a break for xmas woulda been nice but at least she's getting it over with.  i guess it's true that reflux gets worse with teething...dd had another 'spell' and threw up for a day - had to give her pedialyte cuz she couldn't keep anything down - poor lo - i feel soo bad when she gets sick like that.  :(

amy - still doing the df here!  actually stopped for about a week to see if it made a difference and it sure did!  she started waking eratically at all hours of the night looking for food.  :shock:  i am proof that the df can be done with bfing!  it was hard to get her to do it but with anything she got the hang of it.  took a lot of time tho (about a good 3 wks) and she wouldn't always latch and i would then resort to ebm in a bottle.  now i just get her in position and tickle her lip and she opens like a little birdie :wink: !

alison - your friends are all in my prayers!!  what horrible things to go through...and makes it even worse when it's right around the holidays and u are supposed to be celebrating  :?  i am sure everything will work out the way it is supposed to - i do believe that everything happens for a reason, although we may not always understand it or agree with it.  what a wonderful way to look at things amy 
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I also thought of it as my mom getting a grandchild to be with her in heaven as well.

well this house has been a zoo so i don't know if i will be able to get around to chatting with all of you before boxing day so everyone have a wonderful christmas...keep safe and enjoy those wonderful families of yours!!  make sure your lo's first christmas is memorable!!! :D  :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 22, 2005, 03:58:27 am
oh just one more thing ... for those of you suffering from night wakings - i have discovered that dd sometimes wakes in the night because she has a dry mouth.  i have a humidifier/vaporizer in the room but it is still very dry (if u have any suggestions to solve this it would be appreciated!) and dd wakes and won't take soother unless it is dipped in water or i give her a couple sucks of a bottle with water in it...my mouth is dry too as is my nose - just a thought - see ya!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 22, 2005, 10:17:29 am
Thanks for all your thoughts and prayers for my friends. Tracy is being closly monitored and will be spending 3 mornings a week at the hospital. Shes also taking tablets to try and remove the poison from her and the babies body. They are going to try to bring her to term but deliver early (she is currently 28 weeks pregnant) if things get dangerous for baby. Its stressfull for them , but at least the doctors are watching closely and god willing her baby will be ok.



As far as christmas goes weve finally finished wrapping all our pressys, especially good as our livingroom has been full of carrier bags of them since last week (i was trying to do a few whenever tom was playing happily alone, but in the end we had to have a pressesnt wrapping marraton last night ... we have such a big family it took two of us a solid 3 hrs!!) DH is currently downstairs wrapping my pressent (s!!) so im in exile!!! :D

Hope you all have a great chistmas if i dont log on again before then!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 22, 2005, 14:13:24 pm
I am currently in the office at home and I told dh to hide my presents in the office closet.  And he did.  But I AM going to be good and not peek :D   It takes a lot of self control, but I figure at 33 I really need to behave or I have no right to fuss at the children when THEY peek.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 22, 2005, 15:01:45 pm
DH and I exchanged presents last night because I just have this "thing" about us having Christmas together in OUR house before we go out of town this afternoon.  We're driving 6 hours today to San Antonio before we go the rest of the way to Houston tomorrow.  That leg will be shorter (3 hours) so I will try to time it during Luke's afternoon nap.  Hopefully he'll sleep most of the way through.  DH is driving back by himself on Monday and Luke and I will fly back Wednesday.  I don't know if I will be able to check in, so all of you have a wonderful holiday.  I hope God blesses each of you with special memories!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 22, 2005, 15:51:29 pm
Sorry I haven't been on for so long.  I am caught up on all the posts but alot of it didn't register because I was reading so fast.  Well jency had a good week as you know and then went down hill after that week.  He still will take a long afternoon nap but not morning and because of that he is having to take a evening nap which in return messes up the night.  He actually had a few nights that he only woke twice (every 4 hours) to eat.  It was so wonderful.  but this week he has been up 4 times a night again.  I'm not sure what it is.  He also decided that he wants to eat ever  3  hours again.  Well, actually what happened was that he went through his growth spurt and I wasn't making enough milk so he was eating every 3 hours and still getting mad.  We added lunch so now we do 3 meals.  But now he wants to continue snacking every 3 hours and when I try to go 4 hours he still will only snack but then he drains me twice a night.  Last night at his 8pm feeding he drained both sides and was still crying but finally drifted off but then woke at 11 (which is usually 12) and drained both sides and was crying so we gave him a 2 oz bottle and he almost drained that as well.  But then he slept until 3am, but then was up at 6am and it took me 45min to get him back down and then he slept till 7:30 (which is normal).  He has been waking around 6/6:30 for two days now I don't know what's up.  But since we have the holidays coming and then going out of town for new years we decided to just let everything happen and just deal with it until January.  Then we are going to get him to go 6 hours at night with only one feeding and then eating every 4 hours during the day with 3 meals and two long naps.  Hope we get it sorted out.
He is creeping every where and loves shiny wrapping paper.  He loves to play by himself which makes mommy sad.  he is trying to crawl but not there yet and he sits for a few minutes but it squishes his belly and he doesn't like that.
Well, sorry that is so long. 
I want to say that I understand what you all are going through with the night wakings, we've been doing it for 4 months now!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 22, 2005, 16:31:11 pm
Oh ya.  I'm thinking about weening him at 9 months.  I am really tired of not knowing how much he's getting and if I should be nursing at night and so on and so forth.  He has started taking a bottle when he drains me and 1-2oz at other times (until he realizes it's not me).  We are working on getting him used to a bottle.

I can't remember who posted the thing about being thirsty but I think you may be right.  When Jency woke at 6 this morning his cry was kinda flemmy, kinda like you get when you have a dry throat.  Maybe I'll jsut set a bottle of water in there for him when he wakes at those times that I won't feed him. 

Anyway, do I have support here with the weaning him early thing?  I don't seem to get support on the Breastfeeding forums or from my BF support group or my friends (who are all bf, some are a year old now). 
I think my mom will be okay with it because both me and my sis weened our selves at 9 months, but she lives 300 miles away :( .  My mil I"m not sure about she bf 6 kids and co slept with 4 of them until they were 2.  I'm not sure when she weened them.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 22, 2005, 17:26:59 pm
My SIL weaned at 6 months b/c she just wasn't making enough.  Nephew did fine.

I was not able to bf for more than a week, so I am a huge supporter of formula...seein' as how my kid is happy and healthy on it  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 22, 2005, 18:02:03 pm
While I can understand the desire to bfeed all the way through to a year and beyond, you can't look to what other people did with their children to measure against what you do with yours.  I bf'd up to five months and after a solid month of thrush and cracked and painfull nipples, I decided that my lo had had a great start and switched him to formula. 

It's a personal decision that you shouldn't let anyone else influence, or make you feel guilty about.  Do what feels right for you.

That's my soapbox moment for the day. 

Have a safe and happy Christmas everyone.  I'm going on a road trip for 10 days and won't be near a computer for most of it (sniff, sniff) so I'll see you all in the new year.  (boy I'm gonna miss not being able to chat with you all)!

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on December 22, 2005, 21:11:47 pm
Adria- I would say you wean when you are ready. Nine months of bf is a wonderful thing to do for your baby you should feel lucky that you could do it and not guilty about quitting. I wanted to bf sooo bad, but after three weeks my little guy was starving! I am jealous that you even get to wean him :)

I can't believe x-mas is almost here! I am sure we are all going to be flooded with toys and clothes and more toys...!  Actually, I can't wait to get new toys for Jake, he seems bored of the ones he has! We got an early present from my husband's parents... they bought Jake a Radio Flyer rocking horse. It is so cute! It has a safety saddle so he sits up pretty good in it. Won't be too long and he'll be bouncing himself  :lol:

I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season.... Merry Christmas!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 22, 2005, 21:50:55 pm
Alison: Your friends are in my thoughts.  What a scary thing to have to go through.

Adria:  Bfing for as long as you have is wonderful.  Feel happy with whatever you choose, remember, you are doing what's best for lo and mama. 

On another note, I have mastitis.  I had to go the hospital today (at my parents so no gp) and it's confirmed.  So now I'm on antibiotics.  Both the Dr and the pharmacist insisted that it was best even if some does get through to Owen.  The dr said I was lucky I caught it so soon and it should be gone within a couple days.  All I have to say is OUCH!!  It hurts so much.... but owen doesn't seem to mind nursing on it, so I'll just keep it up.

And now for a funny story.  I decided to have a few drinks the other night... what a mistake.  I forgot how low my tolerance was since I have had so little in the past year.  I was so happy to be at my parents and have such a loving dh who was more than happy to babysit both me and owen.  lol   Luckily owen takes formula now cuz I could'nt have even thought of sitting up for more than a few minutes until very late into the day.  lol.  I hope this makes some of you laugh.  All i know is that I'm not drinking on NYE anymore.  It makes me laugh!!!  I forgot what a room spinning felt like!  lol

Still enjoying the holiday season.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 23, 2005, 01:36:56 am
Merry Christmas Everyone!!!

I am really excited for Christmas. So is Aiden as he is suddenly not interested in any of his toys! I've been standing on my head all day trying to keep him busy. Also I had a question. He seems more independent lately. He used to be more clingy and cuddly and now he would rather play by himself.  :cry: . We used to lie down and he would give me kisses and talk to me. Now he just rolls over and starts to try to crawl.  I am sad..he doesn't need Mommy anymore.

Adria do whatever you think is best for your lo. We will support you whatever you choose to do. I hope everything works out!

Jodie- I am sorry to hear about your mastitis!!! I have need had it but I haev had a clogged duct for a couple of days so i cn only imagine!!! Hope it gets better soon. And lucky you will a night off....not quite a Mom's night out but closer than I have had! What a lovely dh!


I wanted to say something else but it escapes me now.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 23, 2005, 03:27:47 am
Chelsea:  Jency has been the same way!  He all of a sudden decided to never give me kisses anymore and when I try to play with him he just ignores me and wants his toys. :(   I jsut posted about this on another forum.  I am so sad and feel like he hates being with me.  He would rather play with the dogs all day!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 23, 2005, 12:10:16 pm
Have a great Christmas everyone. I won't be online for a while.  I am sure I will miss reading about everyone but it will be fun to get caught up after Christmas and see some Christmas pictures.

Regarding the weaning...I know how you feel and you are right it is hard to not feel guilty or concerned with what other's think BUT you have done soooo well BF'ing for this long and your LO will be just fine.  I had very mixed feelings when my DD decided that she wanted a bottle instead of me and my milk supply greatly diminished.  My sister is an Emerg. Pediatrician and she BF her kids until they were almost two. I felt pretty guilty when DD stopped around 5.5 months but it happened and she is doing just fine. If I have a second baby I will know better and will try to BF for longer. 

Hope everyone has a healthy and safe Christmas.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 23, 2005, 20:37:01 pm
Adria- Well since our lo have the same temperment maybe it is just a devlopmental stage or something. Still makes me sad!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 24, 2005, 02:21:25 am
UUUGGH!  The six hour trip last night didn't go so well.  I just knew that Luke would sleep the whole time.  NOT!  He started screaming about three hours into the trip and I thought we were going to have to stay in a hotel.  Well, he finally made it.  Today I could tell he did NOT want to get back in the car.  Thank goodness we're flying back!

Luke still likes to play with me.  In fact, he'd much rather play with one of us than with his toys.  He LOVE laughing at our dog and belly laughs when his daddy starts to try to sing opera style.  I actually am a singer, and he listens to me when I sing, but the higher I get, the more he will smile, and on a really big high note, he'll crack up like I am Eddie Murphy or something!

Jodie,  so sorry about the mastitis.  When two of my girlfriends had it, they swore by the heating pad.  It was on their ta-tas 24-7  :wink: I wasn't able to nurse for more than a week.  I had a big baby that wasn't so patient, and my doctor says that I was the most severe case of engorgement he'd ever seen.  So, if it's anything like that, I am SOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry!

Two more days!  Merry Christmas everyone  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 24, 2005, 03:10:11 am
Amy-glad you guys made it safely.

Jodie-really sorry to hear about mastitis.  Not 100% sure what that is, but like Amy if it is anything like engorgement, my heart goes out to you.

Adria-High five for b/f for as long as you have.  I personally did not do it, nor do I have any desire to do it.   :roll:   Just not something that appealled to me, but kudos to you that did it and stuck with it.

As for everyone else...I am here at home till about 10 am Sunday morning, so Merry Christmas to all that check in and if anyone wants to chat...I will probably be off and on all day tomorrow.  (Hoping not to go ANYWHERE tomorrow except for xmas eve service.)

Happy Holidays!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 24, 2005, 03:26:33 am
Sorry to hear of your struggles Amy, glad to hear you made it safely.

Owen still plays happily with toys and anyone and everyone.  I think I will be sad when he becomes totally independant.  But as I mentioned before, he happily plays for up to a half hour on his own.

BJ:  Mastitis is an infection in the breast.  Basically, it turned red in parts and hurt in those parts really bad, especially to the touch.  But because I caught it early, it's all gone now, but I have to take the antibiotics for another 9 days.   :(   I had engorgement at the beginning, but it only lasted for 12 hours and didn't really hurt...  more made me laugh looking at the size of them.  lol  (maybe it did hurt, but everything seems to be a bit of a blur in the first few weeks of Owen's life)

So I think there is a reason for the sleep problems.  I have found teeth!  Two of them, the upper front ones.  They aren't through or even close to it, but I can see them.  His poor hand was pruned from being in his mouth so much today.  Poor guy.  I gave him a frozen face cloth, but he doesn't know really what to do with it.  I saw them a few days ago, but I didn't think they were teeth cuz they're so big, but my mom confirmed it.

I thought they got their bottom ones first?

Nice to see some mamas are still catching up over the holiday season.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 24, 2005, 03:42:06 am
Alecks has finally got the hang of sitting up..and rolling EVERYWHERE to get what she wants; almost a crawl but not quite, more of a pull and wiggle  :D
  Most commonly (from what i hear) lo's are supposed to get the front bottom teeth first but sometimes they pop out in a different order than the 'norm'.  Alecks has her bottom two and are working on the eye teeth from what i can see.  i had a younger cousin who got his four eye teeth before any of the others - looked like dracula for the longest time!   :lol:
  dd has also decided she doesn't want to bf anymore (only a few minutes) and also has been refusing the bottle, the only way i can get her to take more than two ounces of bm is by giving it to her in a straw cup...then she slurps it back like she's absolutely starving!..which isn't great for the gas situation, but at least she's getting her calories and sleeping better at night  8)
  Hope everyone has their christmas shopping done, i would hate to have to go out tomorrow, ugh!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on December 24, 2005, 03:51:58 am
forgot to mention: Adria - love the new pics!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 24, 2005, 04:13:21 am
Thanks Teezee!

My mom told me that I got my front fang teeth first and looked like a vampire forever.  So those are the teeth I am watching for with Jency.  They say that teething is inherited.  I got mine in my 6th month.  So far Jency doesn't have any and I'm not sure if he's even close.  I'll have my mom check tomorrow. 

BJ:  I may check on sometime tomorrow as well!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on December 24, 2005, 14:18:40 pm
Cait has her bottom two front.  Dh and i have each seen the top two, but they have "sucked" back in.  So I know they are coming, but she seems to be very laid back about it.  She has been sleeping real well at night lately and naps are even getting just the tiny bit easier.  I have given her a "lovey" and yesterday it definitely did the trick.  I am going to find out where my friend got it so that I may buy a second one. 

I do not plan to go into any stores today except for Home Depot and that is only for 2 sheets of plywood so that a friend can cut them down so that we can "rig" a desk in this room we call an office.  :roll:  It is not pretty.

Oh....and I have been working with Cait on sitting up on her own.  Doing a great job of it.  It isn't the front/back we have an issue with, it is her toppling over on her side.  :roll:   Humpty Dumpty, anyone??

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 24, 2005, 23:02:59 pm
Just thought your lo might want to see where Santa is RIGHT NOW!

http://www.noradsanta.org/index.php
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on December 26, 2005, 17:35:42 pm
Hope everyone had a great Christmas.  We sure did.  It's amazing how having a little one around puts everyone in a merry spirit!

So now I have found two more teeth on the top.  So my poor little one is dealing with 4 teeth!  ouchie!!  He's in pretty good temperment though.  I don't think any are close to breaking through, just enough to annoy him.  Why can't he figure out how a teething ring works?  Geez.... lol

Oh ya, and he's figured out how to inch....  backward.  haha  He sees something he wants and lifts himself up to get it and then finds himself inches away rather than closer.  Darn they are cute!

Owen sits pretty well on his own.  But you never know when he's going to topple to try and reach for a new toy.

Also, we had our first "real" bm.  It was gross so my mom cleaned his bum.  haha...  she thought it was cute!  haha  It must be the new cereal...  rice and oats.  He likes it much more than just the oats.

One question, I have seen this posted by ppl before but I've never asked.  What is a lovey?

Clueless in Canada,
Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on December 26, 2005, 19:51:31 pm
Hi All!

So far we have survived our first Christmas..... It's not over yet.  We are staying at my sister's house and she has 4 lo's, oh my gosh, what a busy house!?  I don't know how she does it. 

The last few days have been pretty good with the nights going okay, but because we've been on the move from one place to another, the naps are completely out of whack.  He sleeps in the car when we are in transit but then once we arrive he won't resettle.  Everything is too new, not comfortable enough to sleep. So it's been a little bit stressfull for me.

No new teeth yet but I can see the whites in the gums so they must be coming along soon. Tried lo on green beans today, he seems to like them, and oat cereal a couple of days ago and he definately prefers that to the rice cereal. 

I hope everyone else has had a peaceful and safe Chrsitmas.  Get lots of rest, new year's is coming!

Cheers,
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 26, 2005, 21:06:35 pm
That was the best Christmas ever! It was so much fun watching Aiden with his new toys. He was so excited! He was even standing up and playing with his activity table. He was so wound up he hardly napped but last night he slept for 12 hours....UNITERRUPTED!!! It was nice but I woke up a bunch... :roll: .

Aiden had his first "real" poop...I thought it was funny. Actually easier to clean off.

He has gotten some red dry patches on his face. I have been putting some cortisone (?) and lotion or vasiline on and that makes it a littl ebetter but I am not sure what it is. Maybe ecsama, or is it a food allergy? I gave it sweet peas recently. Anybody else have this?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 26, 2005, 22:51:37 pm
Luke gets those dry patches.  We find that Aquaphor works the best.  It's also what I put on his diaper area to prevent diaper rash.  I use it with every diaper.  So far so good.  My husband uses it on his dry, cracked hands and it makes them soft within a couple of days.

This Christmas has been great, but I don't plan on traveling for another Christmas for a long, long time.  I wanted so badly to be in MY house.  I did get a few comments that torked me, about how I just need to let him stay up later more often so he can get used to it.  Well, I don't WANT him to get used to it!  I like that I have a baby who goes to bed at 6:30 and sleeps for 12 hours!  I like that I have a baby who will take two naps that are 1 1/2 - 2 hours long!  That is why he's such a happy, smiley boy!

Sorry...I'll get off the soap box  :wink:

Luke got a thing that is like an exersaucer, but the table is in the middle and the chair goes around the table, so it's good for when he's in need of some walking type activity, but it keeps him in one spot so I don't have to worry about him walking out the door or something  :roll:

Y'all enjoy the rest of your week!  Can't wait to hear more details about the Chirstmas festivities!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 26, 2005, 23:37:56 pm
a lovely is a blanket or pacifier or stuffed animal that they get attached to and have to sleep with or even take with them every where.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 27, 2005, 18:27:26 pm
Hi all. Glad to hear you had good christmases! :D  We did aswell, athough tom didnt finish opening all his oressents till lunchtime boxingday!!!! I have never spent the whole day opening pressents before. We are going to have to build an extension to fit in all the flashy, noisy toys from his auntys and uncles! My MIL is still buying... she cant resist the jan sales :?
 
Its really nice of everyone, but makes me feel a bit sad as the presents we picked so carefully, with so much love are now just a small number of toys in a great big pile!!

Anyway enough of being ungreatful!!! :oops:  Hope you all enjoy the rest of the holidays :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 28, 2005, 20:00:38 pm
I love your new picture!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 29, 2005, 07:33:46 am
thanks! he was only 2 months old in last one so thought i should change it! :oops:

cant get pic less fuzzy tho!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on December 29, 2005, 12:49:42 pm
Hi everyone,

We too had a great Christmas.  DD was great and we have a tooth coming through. Question...she is getting too big for her infant car seat, does anyone really like their new car seat?  We have a small car and need to keep size in mind. 

Thanks!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Mom to M&M on December 29, 2005, 12:56:12 pm
LOVE the Britax Roundabout. And we only have a Mitsubishi Galant and it fits fine. A bit snug but will be better when it turns forward facing. Also very safe and comfy and has two recline positions. Highly recommend.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 29, 2005, 14:51:18 pm
BJ - how are you liking your plywood desk? I have one too!  :wink:
Just till DH gets around to making us a real one - I am getting tired of catching myself on the edge though!

On the carseat question - we just went to a new seat from the carry one last week. I would go to the store and check the sizes, most stores will let you carry it out and check their floor sample in the car for size and fit.

Caeden just has the bottom 2 teeth, thought he was teething a couple weeks ago but nothing came thru. He got them at 4 months.

We too have been using Aqupher on Caeden's cheeks - working great. Dr also said we could use some cortizone cream as they were really chapped. that helped us clear them up and now I am using the Aqupher and it is helping keep it clear.
We use Vaseline, sotre brand on his butt and so far has been no diaper rash!

And yes - we have moved to "real" poop too! Smells more but usually easier to clean!

Love all new pictures too!
 :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 29, 2005, 17:23:13 pm
We have an Evenflo carseat.  If you go back a few pages, you'll see it.  We like it a lot.  My husband has a Honda Accord, and since we're both tall, we have both seats all the way back and it fits just fine.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on December 29, 2005, 21:25:55 pm
Well, I thought it was time for me to post again.
Our Christmas waas hectic and not spectacularly great.
We still have a Christmas to go to over New Years (5 hours driving trip).  Jency just got a new carseat for Christmas and it is a Safety1st.  It's kinda big though.  We have to move it to a side seat because if it's in the middle I can't see out the back or my blind spot.  I am a shorty.
STill no teeth.  Jency got a 3 foot pony that's as big as his dogs (stuffed pony) from the neighbor. The dog was afraid of it but Jency likes to chew on the reigns.  I HATE his toys!  my FIL&MIL got him tons of noisy toys that don't shut off!!!!  He loves them of course!
My mom got me and him a Lamb Chop Bible STory DVD with some lamb chop bowls.  And she got my DH and Jency matching wrangler black jeans.  It's too cute!
I think he has started with seperation anxiety and night mares.  Yesturday and the past 2 nights have been horrible.  He wakes up screaming at night and nothing calms him but his paci, to nurse, or a light being turned on.  Yesturday he would not take a nap in his crib and screamed everytime I put him down and it took 2 hours to get him to sleep in the swing.  If I left the room he would start screaming there too.  Finally I laid down on the couch and he went to sleep in the swing.  Today has been a lot better but I've had to go back to rocking him to groggy and we had just gotten to putting down awake :( .  I don't know why he is so scared.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 29, 2005, 22:55:13 pm
Jency might be experiencing OVERLOAD.  I know Luke is.  He screams and screams when he gets tired now.  That just started while we were gone.  For two days I had to go in and hold him so that he would go to sleep.  Finally this afternoon nap he was able to cry for a second and then he was out.  I think they just get so overloaded with all the people wanting to hold them and play with them.  My in-laws are due to arrive in about an hour and I HOPE they will listen to me when I tell them that he needs to play by himself for a while while they babysit tomorrow.  My MIL has to be two inches from Luke's face at all times.  What's up with that?

I need to be nice.  I am praying that God will give me patience and remind me that they wouldn't act that way if they didn't love him.  It's just hard when you work so hard to have all your hard work un-done.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on December 30, 2005, 01:42:12 am
I started using the Aquapher (?) and it is working great. Thanks!

Adria- does your lo have reflux? From you last few posts it seems like he does.  That is how Aiden is when we need to up his meds. And the crying after eating too. Just a though. It is also probably all the excitement of the past week. In fact my Mom was over tonight and was talking and carrying on during his bedtime windown and by the end he was crying and I had to tell her, not so nicely either, that it was time to go. I sat with him in his room for 20 and held him and he calmed down.  Hope it gets better.

We also have the Evenflo and we love it! I think I posted a link somewhere on this thread...

Oh yeah I did call my Mom and apoligize...it just urks me that she just doesn't get anything about him. I thought she would understand that yelling from the next room "How do you work this computer, I can't get it to connect" and "guess what I found on ebay" isn't very calming. Or that me ignoring her and shutting his down means shut up! GRRR...ok I feel better. Nice vent.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on December 30, 2005, 19:03:02 pm
Hi everyone, wow.....haven't posted on this board in a long time. I have tried to keep up but have missed a few pages from here to there. It's so nice to read about other babies the same age as Avery.

Speaking of Avery she is doing much better with her milk allergy. We did have to take her to see a pediatric GI (she was still getting blood in her stool) but all testing came back normal and we are to resume as usual until she is one year old.

We started solids around 6 months and she is progressing nicely but slowly. Right when we started she got her first tooth followed by a pretty miserable cold which left her without an appitite for almost a week. The last two days she's been eating again and we have proceeded on to Oatmeal and bananas. So far so good and her tummy seems to be alright with it.

Just noticed her second bottom tooth popped out today so hopefully the "boogies" will stop running down her face for a couple days at least. :roll:

Her last appt about 3 weeks ago she was at 17lbs 3ozs and 25 1/4 tall. So she's still my little ball. :lol:  :lol:

Okay, off for now. So nice to read about all your lo's.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 31, 2005, 00:49:11 am
Glad you're back Kayna!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 31, 2005, 03:17:20 am
hello, ladies!

i just logged onto the chat room and noticed that the March/April thread had there own chat area and it seemed like a regularly scheduled chat time.  :)

i was just curious if there was a regularly scheduled chat time for us June/July mommies to meet?

thanks!
-christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 31, 2005, 03:27:00 am
on another more depressing note...

am i the only mom out there that is too tired to even think about doing anything exciting for New Years?  i would just love to be at home snuggled on the couch with my dh, ds,  a cup of hot choc., and a good movie, praying to make it up for midnight.  i am not even 30 yet and its times like these that make me feel really old  :(!!!!!!!  is it weird that i'm so boring?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on December 31, 2005, 09:26:39 am
No you're deffinetly not the only one wondering if they will make it through to midnight tonight! :oops:

We're pretty lucky as we're going to our friends (mike and Tracy) for the night tonight, so we will be able to feel we've "done" something and yet still have a nice chilled evening. With Tracy being pregnant and spending every 3rd day at the hospital she is also pretty tired so i may not be the only one struggling to reach midnight!!

Anyway hope everyone has a good new year, speak to you in 2006!!!! :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on December 31, 2005, 16:17:25 pm
Quote from: mrshamilton24
am i the only mom out there that is too tired to even think about doing anything exciting for New Years?

I gotta work but for the first time in my life it doesn't even bother me to be passing up New Year's Eve Parties. :roll:

PS: Thanks Amy.  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 31, 2005, 17:14:01 pm
Hi guys - we are doing good here. I had thought we would have a quier week at home, but it turned out busier then I had anticipated.
We ended up buying an artifical tree - on clearance - $300 normally, marked down to $75 - and then she threw in an ornament and little nativity set we were buying, so it ended up under $50.00 - not bad.
Caeden is trying so hard to get onto his knees and get somewhere. It won't be long.
He is eating 2-3 meals a day and hasn't slowed down on the nursing at all. Still at 3 hours apart if we are home and 4 if we are out. He has decided though he doesn't really care for the rice ceral now that he has had other foods and likes them better. I got some oatmeal ceral - maybe that will go over better. I usually do a little bit of ceral and then something else on the bit so it has more flavor.

We aren't doing anything for new's years this evening - may stay up and watch movies - if we make it to midnight!
My family is all coming over for dinner tomorrow though.......so I really need to go clean out the dining room which has become a "catch all" - and move it all to the office - the other "catch all" - and mop and vacuum.

ALISON - how is Tracy doing? and the LO?

CHRISTINE - I don't think we have any set chat time - The best time for me is usually mid morning (US-Mountain time) - on a weekday, maybe Wed or Fri? How about anyone else?

ADRIA - what toys did Jency get that you don't like? Just curious - we have some rather noisy ones and was wondering if we had any the same!

Okay - I best go -
(((((((HUGS)))))))))) to all and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Title: Hey Mommies
Post by: charleesmom on December 31, 2005, 20:44:46 pm
Hello other mommies.
Well I am new to this forum.
Just noticed a June / July forum of its own.
I have a DD who is 6 months 2 weeks and 1 day old.
She is just the sweetest most wonderful thing in our lives now days.
But of course like any mom I am sitting at home day after day wondering what life is going on around me. 
I work from home so that I can be with my DD but it is all work and no play for me.
So, finding these forums have been AMAZING.
Would love to chat more with other mommies going through the same issues at the same times.
Do you all have a regular chat time???
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on December 31, 2005, 21:40:03 pm
Welcome Charlee's mom!
We don't have a regular chat time, but we're all on here so much that it seems like a chat room.  Wouldn't the rest of you agree?  If more than an hour goes by without a post, I feel like I need to check on everyone  :wink:

Well, we had planned to go spend New Year's Eve with some friends and get the teenager who lives across the street to babysit (first time with a babysitter under the age of 30  :oops: ) but Luke has had a temp of 101 since yesterday afternoon.  Our doctor is going to meet us at the office in an hour to see if it's his ears.  Poor little guy :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on December 31, 2005, 22:03:53 pm
Welcome, charlee's mom!  I am also fairly new to this thread, I just joined in early December.  :)  It has been wonderful for me as well.  Everyone is great about giving advice or just letting you "vent."

I recently asked the same question about the chat time and several people responded but not many...people are probably out of town for the holiday or busy getting their own houses prepared for tonights celebrations.  I am a full time teacher so I wouldn't be able to chat online until after 4:00pm (U.S.-pacific time) during the week, but the weekends are usually completely open for me.

By the way- I LOVE the name Charlee for a girl.  It was one of my top pics for a girl but unfortunately my dh wasn't too fond of it  :(.  Its a good thing we had a boy, huh?  :)

Amy- I really hope Luke feels better.  Brock just got over a terrible chest cold and I can't think of much worse than a sick baby :(

Hope everyone has a fun and safe New Years.  Talk to you all next year  :wink:

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on December 31, 2005, 22:25:49 pm
Hi Charlee's mom - welcome - it sounds like your little one is really close in age to Caeden - He was born June 11 - how about Charlee? Luke and Avery are June 10 -I think there are a couple more real close too......

More later - gotta go - just jumped on to say hi!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 01, 2006, 00:40:45 am
weeeeeeeeeeell, I was right.  Ear infection and a big blister on his throat.  Poor little dude!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 01, 2006, 01:13:03 am
Hi all....anyone remember me?   :wink:   what it's been like 2 weeks since I posted?  good grief.

Christmas was  a long but good day.  Both kids made out like bandits as usual.  Dh and I got some cool stuff too.  I actually got what I asked for...a scanner/copier/fax machine.  Woohoo!!!  Now I can scan my pics and shrink them down  to the frame sizes I have.  Very excited.  Of course...haven't hooked it up yet, only so much can go on the plywood desk!!!  :wink:

Yes, Amy....feeling your pain, sorry to hear about Luke.  He and Cait can be sick buddies.  She was diagnosed this morning with an upper resp. infection.  :roll:   Needless to say, I am LESS than thrilled.  My heart just breaks for these little ppl, they dont' understand why they feel so crummy.  Poor thing is coughing in her sleep now.  :roll:  :cry:

New Year's will probably be spent in this mess of an office.  And I imagine it will be  a long night with her highness, so I might as well stay close by.

Welcome Charlee's Mom..always nice to have a new member jump on board.

Christine-glad to hear that Brock is feeling better.

Kayna-sorry you have to work tonight.  Are you off tomorrow?

Adria-how is Jency doing?  And I too hate those LOUD toys.  Nothing like getting Cait off to sleep, to have a life like sounding FIRE truck go off in the room next to her.  nnniiicccceeeeee........ :evil: 

But I bet all of the Grandmas spelled their grandchildren's name correctly.  My mother INSISTS on spelling Cait's name K-A-T-E.  :roll:   That is all I am saying on the subject. 

Chelsea-isn't it annoying when you really have your routine down and then someone just blows it all to heck?  So sorry to hear about your mom....they just don't get it do they?  Hope everything is back on track.

Jennifer-make sure your "catch all" plywood desk doesn't sag.   :lol:   Ours is looking extremely dispondent.

Okay...so there is my book to catch up on.  OH, Cait also has her two top teeth coming in.  I think they are both "seeable" now, but she feels so puny I am not about to jack her jaw open to peer inside.

Happy 2006 everyone!!!!!!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 01, 2006, 01:29:47 am
Hi everyone. Welcome new mommies! Chat time hmm...I couldn't do it until after 7 here but we are all in diffrent time zones so I am not sure how we could work that out.

Sorry about the sick lo....terrible! I hope everyone feels better soon! It is New Years an i am eatting Chinese food talking with you lovely ladies. No party hoppin for me :lol:  :roll: .

Aiden got loads of bright loud flashy toys but i don't mind them so much...he loves them so much it is worth it. As long as I don't trip on them at night and set them all off!

Actually my Grandma can't seem to spell Aiden's name either. It's not that I havn't told her! And told her....and told her. :roll:  :evil:

Well Aiden has hit his 6 month growth spurt and his reflux is acting up. I have upped his medicine so I hope it kicks in fast! Poor guy. Did anyone else start a 3rd meal now? Just thinking about it.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 01, 2006, 01:50:15 am
We've been on our three meals for almost a month now.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 01, 2006, 02:40:49 am
Isn't Luke a month older than Aiden?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 01, 2006, 04:28:41 am
Yes.  He was born June 10.

We added the third meal when he was MAD hungry before it was time for his next bottle.  He also woke up a few nights hungry, so we added more calories.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 01, 2006, 05:45:56 am
Hello, again!

One of my best friends just had a baby this month (December).  Does anyone know if there is a thread anywhere for moms with babies this new.  He was also a premie..are there any threads/forums for moms of premies?

Thanks,
Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 01, 2006, 14:24:57 pm
I haven't seen any but I am sure she could start one. I think she would have to pm a moderater.

Luke and Aiden are exactly a month apart, Aiden was born July 10! Funny.

I think I will try to add a 3rd meal and I am trying to up his daytime calories but my milk is being slow. He was only getting up maybe once a night but for two nights now it has been every 3-4 hours :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 01, 2006, 14:26:59 pm
Wait I just scrolled down and somebody just started a NOV/DEC 05 thread!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 01, 2006, 14:49:57 pm
OMG, BJ!  Cait is PRECIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 01, 2006, 16:57:06 pm
YEAH - she is a cutie BJ!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 01, 2006, 17:15:16 pm
awww...you guys are so sweet!!!  But...I will agree with you!!!! :lol:  :lol:

How do you like all of that duck fuzz glowing in the sunlight on her head?  Her daddy says that right now he and she have the same hairstyle complete with the bald spot in the back!!  LMAO!!! :wink:

So I meant to post last night...when we took Cait to the dr yesterday for this infection...they weighed her and she gained a pound and an ounce in 2 freakin' weeks.  I won't be able to carry her by the time she is one!!!  Oh, you will all be relieved to know that we FINALLY put her in the real carseat.  But man, what pain in the butt.  I am only 5'3 and I have a F150 and to haul 20 lbs up and over the arms of the carseat to strap her in.  Well....lets just say we are NOT graceful whatsoever.  Poor Cait probably wonders what the heck I keep doing to her.  :oops:  :roll:

Oh...and for New Year's dinner we are having a Southern Mexican Chinese feast.  I hate beans, but they aren't to bad if you hide them in the cornbread with lots of butter(thats the southern part).  I love guacamole(thats the Mexican part), so that is for me and Cait, and in order to get our cabbage....I bought eggrolls, and for "dinner" dh is having General Tso's Chicken, I am having S&S Chicken and also bought some Chicken fried rice(the Chinese Part).   LOL....hope the food police doesn't come over today!!!!  LOL

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 01, 2006, 17:56:34 pm
BJ, must be something about the birthday because Luke gained a pound too!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 01, 2006, 19:06:59 pm
Happy 2006!! :D

Hope everyone had a good new year in the end, and your poor LOs felt a bit better.

We had a nice evening at mike and tracys. Tracy is feeling a lot better, they have given her tablets to counteract the alcili (sorry my dislexia brings out my bad spelling... :oops: ) in her system, and although she will need to be closly monitored they are hoping the baby (who is a real wriggler) will go to term. The condition shes got (cant remember the name) causes cronic itching,  and thats getting better, so the tablets are obviously helping :D . Aparently Tracy only realised the itching could be a sign of something more serious when she went on baby centre (another baby site a bit like this) and someone told her about the condition she has! Its quite rare, so she may not have caught it so early if she hadn't been told. Just goes to prove how valuble the advice of other mums (and mums to be) can be doesn't it ? I also apriciate the support i get on this site, and especially everyones thoughts and prayers when we were so worried about what may happen... so thanks!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 01, 2006, 19:22:20 pm
thanks Chelsea!  I see the thread also, now.   :)  I will be sure to let my friend know ASAP so she can get some advice/support.

Happy 2006, everyone!!!  :lol:

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 02, 2006, 00:18:46 am
I had to post this picture of Luke.  You can really see his chompers!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 02, 2006, 01:27:38 am
Too cute!!!  He has such a great smile!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 02, 2006, 01:42:33 am
thanks
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 02, 2006, 02:16:44 am
He is a cutie pie! Looks like such a big boy! And Cait is such a sweetie pie! She has got so much more hair than Aiden!

I am also so grateful for all the help and support I get from this site.  It has helped me tremndously!

How was your crazy dinner? I had General Tso chicken last night and it was good!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 02, 2006, 02:54:50 am
I had too many things to cook at one time and had to put the eggrolls and the cornbread in the oven at the same time.  Had three burners going at once and the microwave.  Other then that, It went well, we all ate and Ryan actually ate the beans without complaint, but wasn't too hip on the eggroll.  :roll:   Better yet, since moving into the house, doing dishes is such a snap since it all goes in the dishwasher.  :D

REALLY REALLY REALLY dreading going back to work tomorrow.....I think I am going to take off early.   :twisted:  :shock:  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 02, 2006, 04:04:33 am
Amy- Luke is the cutest!!!!!!!!!  You would never know he was sick!  Such an infectious smile!!!  :)

I was wondering if any of you lovely ladies could offer some advice about how to deal with poops in the middle of the night  :(  Lately, Brock has been deciding to wait to poop until about 11:30 or even later.  Everytime I change him right then, he is wide awake and impossible to get back to sleep.  But...I feel like if I don't change him, I am a bad mom letting him lye in his own poop fo rthe rest of the night not to mention that i don't know how soundly he would be able to sleep with poops.  :(  Did that make sense?

Any advice?  Anyone else had to deal with this before?


Thanks,
Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 02, 2006, 09:42:42 am
Well, it's 3:30 am and I am checking my e-mails.  Luke just woke up screaming bloody murder b/c of his ear (I think).  Thank goodness for those numbing ear drops!  They worked quickly.

Christine, thanks for the compliment.  They only way we knew anything was wrong with Luke was that he had the 101 temp.  Even with the temp he still laughed and smiled.  The doctor was even amazed at how good natured he was with throat blisters and an ear infection.  As for the poops, the only thing I know to tell you is to just change him and then walk out.  Eventually he'll figure out that it is sleepy time and not play time.  Luke went through that a few months ago.  We'd change him and it was like he was thinking, "OH BOY!  PAAAARTY TIME!"
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 02, 2006, 09:56:18 am
Yep, i agree with amy about the poo. Tom does the same thing, and sometimes his nappy gets so wet in the night it leaks and he has to have his clothes changed aswell :( . I did try not changing him once :oops: but he woke up grizzling every 30 mins or so until i changed him... so it didnt work :( . Now i change him in the dark, and sometimes even keep him in his bad to change him if thenappys just wet not dirty(hes pretty good at not doing litle boy fountains!! ) Its also become a lot easier to change him with less disturbence since hes stopped wearing baby grows and moved into pj's (also vvv cute!!)

Amy, bet you're feeling shattered, we keep getting woken up by piercing shrieks at the moment, due to teething, and its a unpleasent way to wake!!  Isn't it also horrid when your lo is in pain, it makes you feel so helpless.... glad you have some eardrops that work so well :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 02, 2006, 13:33:29 pm
Well, it is 7:30 and Luke is STILL sleeping.  I wonder what time he'll wake up.  Too bad I have to go to work for a couple of hours.  It's just for a half-day since the kids don't start back until tomorrow, but it sure would be nice to just stay here!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 02, 2006, 15:27:27 pm
thanks. ladies for the advice.  :)  It always helps to hear advice from people who have previously gone through the same situation!

alison- is that your first name?  sorry, if not  :(  when Brock was soaking through his diaper and his p.j.'s during the night, we started double diapering him with a size 4 overnight diaper for toddlers.  It looks rediculous because his real diaper isze is a 2 and then he has a size 4 diaper over his size 2 that goes up to his nipples :)!!!  But...it stopped the soaking through problem.

amy- i am so sorry to hear about Luke :(  does he still eat well with the soars in his mouth?  I completely undertand how you feel about working.  I am a teacher and so I have had the last 2 weeks off to be with brock and now i have ot go back tomorrow  :(  It is so bitter sweet, being able to have so much time off with him but then having to go back full time.

Cross your fingers for a poopy free night, tonight!   :wink:

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 02, 2006, 15:46:33 pm
So we are back on our own stomping grounds.  Happy to be home, but so sad to leave my parents home.... so sad.

Welcome to the new mom on the board.

I'm up for chatting... I'm a stay at home mom, so whenever works best, I'm sure I'll be able to make it.

We let owen stay in the same diaper all night.  We have done so since he was about 2 months old.  He rarely has a rash, but we use cloth, so maybe that's the difference.  We also double or triple up at night.  He sleeps right through it and always has. I couldn't imagine waking him more at night to change his nappy. 

I think we have a teenager... he doest'n want to go to bed at night adn he wants to sleep in, in the morning.  lol

He sits real well now and has been doing this thing where he sticks out his tongue and blows..... he gets spit all over his face and he does it all the time!  so so cute.

Happy everyone is doing well.

Lotsa hugs to all,
Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 02, 2006, 16:45:09 pm
Well - Caeden had his first fever last night. Only got too 100.9 but he was pretty fussy and all he wanted to do was nurse. He was up like 6 times between 6 and 11:30 - then he seemed better and slept till 4 but was up a 6:15. He seems better this morning. Not sure what it was but am hoping that was it.

Caeden too has found his tongue. So cute - sticks it out all the time and is forever chewing on it.

On the night diapers - we use disposables and haven't had any problems with rash or anything at all. And he is pretty good about not pooping till morning. Though he often has alot of gas at 4 - I often wodner if that is what is waking him up then.

Amy - is Luke feeling feeling better?

BJ - your stove sounds like ours....... we has a roast in the oven, soup, potatoes and veggies on the burners, sourkraut in the crockpots......
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 02, 2006, 16:54:51 pm
I can't tell you how lucky I feel to have such a happy baby.  The only way we knew he was sick was the fever....and the two nights where he woke up screaming his brains out at 4 am.  I think last night he got cold.  I am going to have to go ahead and get a little heater for his room.  It just scares the hell out of me b/c you hear about so many fires that start that way.  Surely there's one that will just blow hot air, right?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 02, 2006, 19:40:43 pm
Instead of a space heater have you considered using a blanket bag or something similar? We dress our DD in a cotton sleeper and then put her in a fleece blanket bag (like a baby sleeping bag). It helps a lot. Her fingers get chilled but it doesn't wake her up and her body is warm.

We too are VERY lucky to have a happy baby who sleeps really well.  I hope all of the babies (and moms) who are feeling under the weather feel better soon!

Hang in there as best you can.  I have to get surgery tomorrow on my gums. I am NOT looking forward to it at all but luckily my husband is off work for the next few days to help with our DD.  At least I will get a bit of a break from doing all the feedings and diaper changes but not really the type of break anyone wants to have.

Ciao,
Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 02, 2006, 22:49:52 pm
Leslie - hope your sugery goes well, I will be thinking of you.

Amy - we too use a blanket bag and it works well for us. Should be good for you in Texas, the only downside for me is when it gets really cold, cause his arms and hands aren't covered. But, I think I have found a good temp for his room and have been able to maintain that and it helps.
They have then at babies R Us for $20 but I found some similar (off brand, but looked identical) at Burlington's baby depot for $10.00.

Oh and that pic of Luke is TOO cute!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 02, 2006, 23:20:57 pm
Thanks for the tips.  He usually sleeps in a fleece sleeper and last night he was in a knit one.  That didn't help the situation any.  I'll look into the sleep sacks.  I have read some of your other posts about them, so I just might have to give them a try.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 02, 2006, 23:58:36 pm
Hey All!

We have finally returned to our home, and boy am I glad.  It's so nice to be in our own space with our own stuff.  the in-laws were pretty good about closing off the house and only smoking in one section of it, but it meant that we were secluded to the dining room for 3 days, and it was too cold for walks so I was pretty bored.  So was ds.   He's been teething for the last few days and it looks like one of his bottom teeth is just barely sticking out right now.... should be fully in by morning I hope! 

He's also babbling away today, they almost sound like words.... He's getting so big I almost can't believe it.

I have a question about naps.   How many do your lo's take during the day?  Jordon's having 3  and I'm thinking I should be reducing it to two longer ones but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.  right now they are 2 2hour naps and one 1 hour nap.  Any hints?

Hope all of the sick babies are feeling better and that everyone had a good holiday.   Gotta go get ready for bathtime.

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 03, 2006, 00:11:58 am
We live in an old drafty house and luckily our DD's room seems to be the warmest because it is sandwiched between our room and our spare bedroom but so far the sleep sack has worked great. My mom bought her one for Christmas that zips up and it is double lined.  I want one!

Regarding napping,  Abbi usually has two naps ranging 1 or 1.5 to 2 hours.  Depending on when her 2nd nap happens, I may try  to let her have a half hour or 45 min cat nap if I don't think she will last until 7pm.  If she has her second nap at around 1:30 or 2 then she can usually last until 7pm.  I just kind of read her signs.

I have a bottle/BF question. Has anyone gone down to 3 bottles/BF per day?  Or is everyone still doing 4 or more?  Just curious.  Our DD is getting pretty good with a sippy cup with water and I am wondering if maybe giving her formula in it for lunch would be a good idea or if I just stick to the bottle.... Just curious.

One more night of having good food and then it is soup for at least a week. uggggh....

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 03, 2006, 00:29:55 am
Well we kinda had our first trip the ER with Cait.  Dh promptly looked at all of the nasty sick ppl and said, No, we are NOT taking her in there.  I had to agree.  The poor lass is so sick and EVERY available number I had to call was off on holiday.  To make things worse, the 1-800 nurse line that is supposed to be on call.....yeah, after being on hold for a while, I finally decided to hit the button to "leave a message" for them to call my back.  Only to discover, that I can't leave a message because the mailbox is FULL!!!!   :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

The medicine that the "minor emergency" dr perscribed her on Saturday we think is what was causing her face to swell drastically.  She had only had 6.5 oz since midnight LAST night, up until I went and bought some pedialight and she finally took 3 oz of that and 4oz of formula.  It is going to be a long night. Going to the dr FIRST thing in the morning and they WILL see us!  :evil:

Not the happiest mommy in the world right now.  How is everyone else?

Amy-glad to hear that Luke is feeling better~~~~~~send the vibes our way, would ya?

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on January 03, 2006, 01:02:01 am
Grrr, guess I need to join in with you all. Went to Avery's ped. today and found out she has a double ear infection and sinus infection.  :shock:  Seriously, can't wait to be back to normal around here. Between the teeth, a  nasty cold and now this, I can't even remember what normal was. :roll:

Good luck to all those mommy's with sick kids. Too bad we don't get paid for this. :roll: We'd all be rich.  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 03, 2006, 01:08:07 am
bj- Hugs...that is awful. I hope everything gets better...soon! That is so awful. Too bad that message machine is full or I would leave a bunch of  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  on it!

More healthy vibes to everyone poor lo's! Please send me some mommy milk vibes. We have hit the growth spurt and my milk hasn't caught up yet!

Judy-Welcome back. Aiden takes 2-3 naps. If the first two are good and long we can make till 7 but if they are 45 minutes like they have been all week we have a cat nap as well. I would say just read your ds.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 03, 2006, 02:22:46 am
Luke has just gone to two long naps, and sometimes a little cat nap around 4 or 5.  He goes to bed for the night at 6:45 or 7, so if he skips that cat nap he's ready around 6:15.

BJ, OMG!  Kiss that sweet swollen face!  I hate that you all couldn't see someone.  Is she any better?  Please update ASAP to let us know how the poor little thing is.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 03, 2006, 02:58:16 am
Judy- My ds takes two naps of 1.5-2 hrs. and a catnap of 45 min. I wouldn't reduce them unless he is beginning to sleep less at night or starts to reduce them himself. I wish my little one didn't have to take the catnap, but he just can't seem to make it to bedtime without it!

Leslie- I have also been thinking of dropping a bottle and going to three a day. We have just recently added lunch in and now are doing three meals a day. I would like to give him his formula is his sippy cup with lunch but when he drinks water from it, he doesn't take much. I'm worried he won't get enough, but I might just try it out. I think as long as your little one is getting the oz. he needs, it doesn't matter how many bottle/bf you do in a day.

Big hugs to all the sickies out there (and their mommies)... I hope you all are feeling better! :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 03, 2006, 17:42:39 pm
Judy - we are at 2 naps with a catnap only if we are out and he falls asleep in the car, I cannot get him to go down in the crib for this one. He is getting better at over an hour for each of his naps, I can get 2 if we are in the car.

BJ - I hope Avery is feeling better soon.....give her big hugs from me!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on January 03, 2006, 18:24:16 pm
Hi Jennifer, Avery is mine but I'll take the well wishes she is sick too (double ear infection and sinus infection). BJ's little one is Cait (course you prolly new that already and just made a goof) :lol: . Well wishes sent from us too for mom and Cait  :wink:.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 03, 2006, 19:22:44 pm
Thanks guys for all the well wishes.  Well Cait and I ended up in the ER at 11:30 last night.  Dh didnt' think she was going to make it to the dr this morning so off we went.  Only spent 4 hours there and 3.45 hours was actually being seen by the dr and such, so it wasn't real bad.  Plus the ER was real quiet and didn't upset Cait too much.

Unfortunately, her diagnosis wasnt' so great.  Cait has RSV.   :oops:  :oops:  :cry:  :oops:  :oops:  :cry:  :cry:   The good news is that her chest xray came back clear, so she does not have pneumonia, which is what I thought they were going to say she had.  Never in a milliion years did I think it would be RSV.  When we got to the ER, she had a temp of 102.4 and 89% oxygent sat rate.  I think that is why we got seen so quickly.  Anyway, it is viral, so no antibiotics.  She is on a breathing treatment every 4 hours.  It was a very long night.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 03, 2006, 19:23:17 pm
Oops - yep - my mistake! :oops:  :oops:
I hope  :oops: you all are feeling better soon! And keep the sick germs there, we don't  want them here! :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 03, 2006, 19:25:03 pm
Oh poor baby Cait- RSV is not fun. Hang in there and get better!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on January 03, 2006, 20:13:49 pm
OMG, BJ my heart goes out to you and Cait. Ds has asmtha attacks and I know how scary the lowered oxygen level can be. Good thing you took her in to the ER.

Avery hasn't eaten at all today. The worst yet. She has "surfaced nursed" twice though (sucks but doesn't suck hard enough to get food). Poor baby. :cry: Can't wait for the amoxicillan to kick in.
Title: Hey mom's
Post by: charleesmom on January 03, 2006, 20:27:38 pm
Okay so after my very first post I have not be on due to travel.  But we are back in town and trying to get our feet back on the ground.

Thank you to all you very kind ladies welcoming me and my LO to this forum.  I cannot read all the way back to when it started but I have gained so much information already.

What a big load taken off to know that other women are going through what I am going through - and at the same time.  Kinda sad to say but it is nice to knwo that I am not the only one suffering out there.   :wink:

I have a few questions and needs for advice is one will...

#1)  Naps:
My DD takes 3 naps a day.  At first it was 2 naps and a cat nap.  But now she has been taking two 1hour naps and then her "catnap" time is turning out to be 2+ hours.  See's as though she is ready for bed at this time - but she still has a few more hours to go before her final feeding and for her bedtime to hit.  I want to extend her morning nap times but even getting her to nap every 2 hours is difficult sometimes because she gets tired after an Hour and a half of being awake.
HELP!!!
Any advice you all could give?

#2)  My husband works from 9:00 am till 6:00 pm every day of the week.  My DD wakes at 6:00 am does her morning routine and is down for her morning nap by 8:00 am - Just when daddy is waking up.  Since we only live 10 minute from his work he gets ready quickly and is gone before her nap is over.  She then goes to bed at 6:00 pm and daddy gets home at 6:15pm.  Some days I extend her day so that they can spend some time together - but I see how this screws up her schedule and she isn't a delight when I mess her up.  I really want DD and DH to have time together but our schedules don't allow it.  We just got back from a week long vacation and they were able to spend a ton of time together and completely fell in love with each other.  I know he would love to have more moments like this last weeks and I know it would be good for her to spend time with her daddy.
Any thoughts how to change her schedule or make this work???

Okay so I will leave it at that for now.

Hope you all are having a wonderful new year so far.  Sorry to hear about all the sick mommies and babies. 
DD has her 6month shots tomorrow. :cry:
Hate those!!!
Don't you just hate when they are sick.  They are so helpless and you feel so helpless. 

 :)
Kim
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 03, 2006, 20:39:48 pm
Just wanted to say that I'm sorry all the babies are sick.  You poor mamas working overtime.  My heart goes out to you all.

Naps here are usually 2 and a catnap.  Of the two, one is usually around an hour or so and the other is usually a good 2 hours.  My issue is that I can't get him to bed earlier than 9.  Like I said in my last post, I think he's already a teenager!  lol  He wakes usually around 9 in the morning, sometimes as late as 10, so I have to wake him up.  arg........

Again, {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}  to all the babes who are hurting.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 03, 2006, 22:45:46 pm
BJ!  POOR CAIT!  Kiss those sweet cheeks!!

We had to go back to the pedi today b/c we saw the doctor on call on New Year's Eve.  We have a new pediatrician now.  We saw him for the first time today and I LOVE HIM!  Luke now has BOTH ears infected.  He's switched his antibiotic.  Cross your fingers!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 03, 2006, 23:02:13 pm
Thanks, A.  She seems to be doing a bit better today, but still isnt' eating like I want her too.

Sorry to hear about Luke.  These are the times I wish it were just summer all year long.....oh, but wait...we live in Texas.  :roll:   Somehow our kids got sick on what is commonly referred to the "3 week winter".

lovely.....

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 03, 2006, 23:29:33 pm
I hear ya, honey.  It was 80 degrees here today.  We have a "cold front" coming through that will drop the high into the low 60's tomorrow.  Sheesh...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 04, 2006, 00:43:32 am
Gee......and we've had a heat wave the last week and it's been in the 50's during the day, drops below freezing at night though.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 04, 2006, 01:01:35 am
Charlee's mom - my first thought on getting more daddy time were - 1) can he come home for lunch around a time she is awake and happy since he works so close? or 2) would he be willing to get up with her at 6 and spend till naptime with her in the morning. Since she goes down early in the eve, maybe you guys can go to bed earlier too to help get enough sleep in.....jsut some thoughts -
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 04, 2006, 01:11:19 am
My hearts go out to the mommies with sick babies.  I dread the first time I have to take our lo to the hospital.... Although, given the trouble makers both my dh and I were as children, I am predicting at least one trip before he's a teenager.   aaah, the joys of parenthood.

Charlee'smom, I agree with Caedens mom re: getting your dh to maybe get up earlier in the morning to get some of that time in with your lo.  Good luck with that.... I know it's not an easy situation. 

Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 04, 2006, 01:20:56 am
So sorry to hear about everyone's poor sick lo. RSV! That is scary. I hope everything gets better soon.

It's been in the 50's here too. Texas is looking pretty good right now.

Charlee's Mom-I agree with Caeden's Mom. You probabaly will not be able to change her schedule so his schedule would be the easiest to change. Is he willing to do that. I mean you have to get up at 6!

daisymelon- I had the same problem (not going to bed until late) But I just started waking him up a 8. Well I did it slowly it took about 2-3 weeks. I did it gradually and if we had a particualy late night I'd let him sleep in a bit.  But with his day starting earlier I followed his schedule and he would end up getting to bed earlier. I was going to keep it at 8 but he started doing a 7-7 thing. :roll: I didn't wantto get up at 7.  It improved his sleep a lot though. He was making it through the night. Until we had this growth spurt that it.

Actually my milk has come in a bit more. But at night he drained but sides again and still had some bottle. Not sure what to do. Didn't you go through this Adria?
Title: Husband waking up
Post by: charleesmom on January 04, 2006, 03:55:47 am
Well, I will give it a try and ask my husband to wake early.
It is hard for him - he is not an early riser and his bad habbit of staying up late will be hard to break.
He doesn't wake easily either.  When she used to wake in the night he never knew - would just sleep right through it.
He doesn't even wake when we wake at 6:00.

I will start with trying to get him to wake early and go from there.

Thanks ladies!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 04, 2006, 04:13:10 am
Charlees mom-  I would agree with everyone so far.  Charlee is most important right now and as much as we moms hate to admit it, our lives do completely revolve around our lo's needs while they are this young.  Therefore, try and keep Charlee's routine to whatever makes her happiest and ask you dh to work around that.

However, I COMPLETELY understand how that is easier said than done. 

My dh also sleeps through EVERYTHING, never waking during the night or in the mornings on the weekends.  We are both teachers and so we both wake at the same time during the week, but he is also the head football couch AND athletic director for the High School he teaches at which means he doesn't get home until after our ds is in bed, either.  So...ds only gets "daddy time" for about 15 minutes in the morning and the weekends (whenever daddys decides to wake up  :) )  It was hard for us at first and we also tried to work around dh schedule instead of ds schedule and learned quickly that that only lead to a unhappy ds and therefore a frustrated "daddy" because all their time spent together was filled with cranky-ness.

I hope that made sense and I didn't kill you with my "ramblings".  Good luck!  :)

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 04, 2006, 04:16:02 am
Ladies,

On another more trivial note...I have tried to add a picture of my ds to my profile so that it comes up everytime I post something like all of you have and when I try and do it, it just says the file size is too large.  :(

Any suggestions?  I want my ds to be able to share in everyone else's absolute cuteness!  :)

thanks,
christine
Title: Oh husbands
Post by: charleesmom on January 04, 2006, 04:23:58 am
Christine,
I completely understand what you went through with you husband.
I have been going through the same.
I love him and I love Charlee but I don't think he understands how the whole schedule thing effects her.
He wants to go out to dinner all the time when she is supost to be in bed or close to her bed time.

I want that time with him but I pay the price when she is up all night crazy over a mess up in her schedule.


As far as your picture - what program are you using to edit it?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 04, 2006, 04:43:30 am
I am just trying to transfer the picture from my Kodak Easy Share program.  I am so computer illiterate....its amazing I even found this website  :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 04, 2006, 05:12:46 am
Kayna-

I am just curious, and please feel free to tell me to mind my own business if you think I am being too nosey (I do not offend easily :)), how did you become a moderator on the BW website?   I think it would be a fun job  :)

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 04, 2006, 05:17:36 am
the previous picture was not very good of Brock but it was the only one that was small enough to attach...i am going to try other pictures.  he is such a happy baby and he just looks miserable in that one.  :(
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 04, 2006, 14:21:46 pm
Okay- Jake still has no teeth... who else is sporting the toothless smile???
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 04, 2006, 14:22:46 pm
Kristine- Brock is cute and he looks like he is having a lot of fun with the balls :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 04, 2006, 14:44:20 pm
Christine - He is a cutie! Love the pictures.

I'll have to try to attach one of Caeden sometime - our camera has been giving us fits.

Charlee's mom - good luck on adjusting your schedule! I know when my DH gets up with Caeden and lets me sleep and extra hour or two - it is wonderful and I just love it. I seem to sleep so well then, it is like I know I don't need to listen for him and sleep sounder or something. Anyway, maybe if you start out with just a few mornings a week or something and kinda ease him into it. Or if he is okay with it, when she wakes, you get up and fed and change her and then  bring her into him in bed and let her wake him up - it might be more pleasant for him (BUT it does depend on if he would LIKE that or not!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 04, 2006, 15:00:14 pm
thanks  :)  I am a bit biased but I think he is cute, too!  The funny thing is that neither of those pictures really capture just how cute he really is.

Brock is also still a "toothless man."  Isn't it weird how different they look once they do get teeth?

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 04, 2006, 15:28:35 pm
Christine- sorry I spelled your name wrong  :wink: It will be so cool to see those pearly whites when they finally come in! I can't remember who had a picture on her of there little one with the two bottom teeth... I think it was of Caeden... sooo cute! I suppose Jake's will pop through one of these days :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 04, 2006, 15:29:31 pm
I am lovin' all the new pictures!  Gosh, it just seems like yesterday when we were talking about how many weeks old our los were.  It's all happening so fast!

One thing I noticed was that Luke's lips seemed to get fuller as he started getting teeth.  Those big puckery lips beg for kisses  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 04, 2006, 15:38:56 pm
All the babies are little boys and girls now.  They have all changed in their looks so much.

No teeth here.  There are some threatening to come in, but nothing yet.
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BTW, have any of you had your white noise machine's batteries lose their juice?  I've been meaning to change the batteries for 2 days now....  sounds like darth vadar is in his room looking over him.   lol

Keep updating all your pics, they are all adorable.  We got a digital camera for xmas, but the batteries have already died.  lol  No more webcam pics for the website, I'm gonna have a real one.

One last thing, I just foudn out on my maternity leave that I can work about one day a week without them docking me in taxes.  I have to admit that the extra income is necessary (dh is a student and a poor oen at that)  Just wondering if I could leave ds for the day.  Maybe I can arrange it for the weekend so dh could look after him.  I wish I had family or at least a babysitter, but it seems impossible to find a sitter who has experience with young children.

How do you working mamas find you balance everythign?  I have no clue how you would manage.

Here's to life as we know it now...... forever better.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 04, 2006, 15:49:51 pm
My guy is kinda toothless.  He's been teething lately and one has just broken the surface but you still can't really see it.    Any day now!

Jordon's started fulltime babbling.  He woke up this morning at 5am and just laid in bed chatting to himself until 6.  DH and I couldn't sleep through it, but we didn't disturb him and just giggled to ourselves until he went back to sleep.   oh, their he is again... gotta go.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on January 04, 2006, 16:06:48 pm
Yay, Avery slept through the night last night. First time in a good week I'd say. Thankfully the amoxicillin is kicking in.

Christine-another BW actually suggested to the Allergy Board that I would make a good Moderator because of my extensive background with Allergies. I'm a regular poster on that board. :roll:  I think if you were ever interested in being a moderator for a certain board you could probably PM one of the current Mod's. I know they just posted about openings and changed a few around so everything might be filled for now but I wouldn't hesitate to check.  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 04, 2006, 16:29:13 pm
It sure sounds like Christmas took its toll on a lot of our LO's.  I hope all the babes are feeling better.

Had my surgery yesterday and am recovering. I am in quite a bit of pain and am on Tyelonol 3 and amoxicillin.  There isn't much I can eat so am feeling weak but hopefully by tomorrow I can get a bit of food into me. My DH is doing his best to take care of us both but it is hard on him too.  He is out shopping for some yoghurt and other almost liquid foods for me.

Abbi is toothless still too but there is one tooth that we can see, it just hasn't come through yet. My sister felt her gums and said there were lots there that could come through anytime. 

Regarding working one day a week.  I kind of know how you are feeling. My husband is a part-time student, works part-time and does a business on the side part-time. I am also doing my Master's in Education while on Maternity leave so we don't have a lot of income right now.  Until he is done school, I will be the steady wage earner and since I am on leave it is tough.  Somehow we are managing and luckily we are pretty good about budgeting but it isn't easy. 

Leslie
Title: Working moms
Post by: charleesmom on January 04, 2006, 16:44:12 pm
I LOVE TO WORK.
My LO was a big surprise to me and my husband.
We had only been married 4 months and the Oops - test came out possitive.  I was even on birth control.  Guess I get to be apart of that 2%.  Anyways, I swore up and down that I would still work full time when my LO came.  I love me job.  I feel useful to the world when I work.  I couldn't imagine sitting at home eating bonbons and watching soap operas.

Well, 9 months later Charlee blessed our lives and after 2 weeks at home with her I didn't want to go back to work.  I wanted to spend every second I could with her so that I didn't miss a thing. 

But, I still loved to work.

Big surprise to me when I went back to work and my boss called me in the office the first day and said "I am having the IT Department set up access for you to work from home.  I want you to have time with you daughter but I don't want to loose you either so do what you can from home and we will figure out the rest."

WOW!!! What a blessing.  A week later I was working at home.  During naps I put all my energy toward my job.  When she is awake - it is all about HER!!!  Somehow, I get everything done and still survive.

My job is high stress (i do theater productions) and I do have to go in for rehearsals some evenings but by then Charlee is in bed and daddy is home to make sure everything is okay. 
I never miss a beat.

Oh, and I do go in to work about once a week - but we have a daycare on campus that I check her into.  I still go and do her feedings and give her kisses before her naps.  And I can't help but walk by that door 5 or 6 times a day.  I miss my little best friend.   :D

It takes a lot to work and be a mommy.  But I love both and I stay focused.  I respect EVERY mom out that who spends every day just focused on their LO.  At times I do wish I could do that.  But I know if I wasn't working I would regrete it.


*** My husband woke up this morning at 6:45 and helped me give Charlee a bath and then played with her till her nap time at 8:00.  So far so good with the getting up early part.  (Of course he passed out on the couch as soon as she was down and I had to almost push him in the shower about 15 minutes ago.  I think he might be a little late for work today.  :?

Have a great day ladies - and WHAT CUTE BABIES YOU ALL HAVE!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 04, 2006, 18:20:45 pm
Okay I am way WAY behind!!
I am at page 87 now.  So bare with me.

Chelsea:  I did go through that but I think it was just his 6 month growth spirt.  It is much better now.

Charlee's mom: my DH takes care of DS on weekends even if I"m home and he also gives him his bath at night.  Bath time is daddy time.

And a praise!!  Jency only ate once last night and then wasn't very hungry this morning!  I'm going to do a dreamfeed tonight at 9:30 and see if he can make it to morning.  I feel bad though because I'm asking him to go longer without food then my DH does.  Last night I fed him at 7:45pm he went to bed then woke at 11:30 but DH put him back down.  Then I went to check on him at 1:30am and I woke him so I fed him (had been 6 hours almost) then he woke at 5:30am because of a dirty diaper and I didn't get him back down until 6:15am but then he slept until 7:45am and at 8:00am only took one side of me an then at 8:30 ate his cereal and fruit (normal amount).
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 04, 2006, 18:30:01 pm
Charlee's mom:  How come she can not sleep longer in the morning.
Jency goes around 7:30am to 8:00pm.  My Dh gets up at 5:30am and goes to work and get's back about 5:30/6:00pm.  That is why Jency goes to bed at 8pm.  It works for us because he sleeps longer in the morning.
Just curious.

Jency doesn't have any teeth either.

Where has Rooby-Rooby-Roo been?
Title: Re: Working moms
Post by: Kayna on January 04, 2006, 18:39:53 pm
Quote from: charleesmom
I couldn't imagine sitting at home eating bonbons and watching soap operas.

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock: I'm assuming you realize now there is more to it. :wink: Although, I would give my right arm to sit around eating bonbons and watching soap operas. :lol:  :lol: But then I guess I'd have to hire someone to do my job at home. :roll:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 04, 2006, 19:08:51 pm
I was worried Id miss work, but i dont!!!  A lot of my family are quite patronising about me not working and tell me I'll get brain dead, or in a few months I'll be begging to go back to work, but its right for me :D  I think it depends on different personalities as to whether you feel the need to work, i just feel truly blessed that we can afford for me to stay at home(just :? ), i know there are lots of mothers who would love to, but just cant afford it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 04, 2006, 20:20:44 pm
No teeth here either. I don't think I had teeth until I was 8 months old so I think we have a while to go. It is a good thing he is so big. No hair and no teeth....

Adria- Yeah I fiqured just wanted some reassurance.  It is starting to get better. I'll be glad when this is over. Glad he did doing better for you.  It will just get better and better. I remember when I was feeding him every 2 hours.....don't miss that!

I don't miss work. But I really didn't like my job to begin with.  I also get a lot of jives from my family about not going back. My mom in particular she keeps talking about when I go back to work....grrr. I love what I am doing. I would hate it if I had to put Aiden in daycare. Not knocking any of you working Moms! I admire you, it must be so hard. I think my Mom hated staying home with us and she is projecting that onto me. But I like it. I hope I can do it for as long as we like but we will see. It will be ten times more interesting when Aiden is older. I thought about going and working somewhere for one day a week. Just to get out and get a bit of spending money but I really don't want to leave Aiden.  I might be being silly but that is a whole day, I'd really miss him.

Glad you hubby way able to get up Charlee's Mom. I 'm sure it was hard but it is worth it.  My Dp just had a bunch of time off of school and him ands ds bonded so much! It is so nice to see them together as usually they don't see each other much. And he can read Aiden soo much better. So I don'thave to help him anymore. Yeah!!!
Title: More then bon bon's
Post by: charleesmom on January 04, 2006, 22:53:36 pm
yes, I have come to relize there is more to being a mommy then bon bons.  But, I never imagined it could be this good.
Even on the not so lovely days I lay in bed at night staring at photo albums of my LO and just smiling away.
I do wish there were more bon bon's (love those thing) but every moment is a fantastic memory. :D

ADRIA'S 1ST - Well, Charlee is getting 12 hours at night going 6:00 to 6:00.  At this age that is what she is supost to get.  She has just kinda always woken at 6:00 am so that is when her schedule is set for.
I wish I had a 7:30/8:00 kid.  I miss sleeping in myself. :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 05, 2006, 00:51:27 am
Hi all.  Took Cait to the dr today.  couldn't wait for tomorrow.  Her oxygen is up 3% and her fever is down to 100.  So the RSV is loosening its grip on her, but have no fear, it is being replaced with an ear infection.  Started her on the pink stuff this evening.  She has only lost 6 ounces so, not bad there.  Tonight for the first time in almost a week she has eaten "solids".  I fixed her a small bowl of cereal just to test the waters and she gobbled it up.  She wont' take formula though.  Loves the pedialite.  Took a nap in her crib for four hours today after being up much of the night last night.  Changed my tactic there.....we elevated her mattress, seems to do the trick.  Dr said she could sleep on her tummy, so for now, that is where she is at.  I dont' feel safe her sleeping on her tummy through the night, so I will probably go and flip her in a couple of hours.  Hopefully she will sleep through, but not holding my breathe.

So enough about that.  I work part time, and it truly does help me stay sane.  Although being off last week for the holidays, it is hard to go back to work.  In fact with all of this stuff with Cait, I haven't been there more than 6 hours all week. But still....the morale in the office sucks.

Anyway, Cait's top two choppers have broken through.  Now she grinds her teeth and drives her dad insane.  He can't stand that.  LOL.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 05, 2006, 00:53:48 am
BJ, I am so glad she's doing better.  I thought about BOTH of you today.  Poor Ry.  How's he handling it all?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 05, 2006, 01:02:39 am
BJ- Good she is doing better. I though about her today. I hope she continues to improve.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 05, 2006, 01:11:35 am
Thanks, ladies.  Well...I have to say...Ry pretty much takes it in stride.  After I posted the update, I surfed the other threads to see what else was going on, and I started feeling guilty that I should be spending MORE time with him.  So he came in here and asked if he could "play letters" (gets on microsoft word and types  :wink: ) and I said no, why dont' we get your colors and you can come sit at the table with mommy and color and talk to me while I eat my dinner.   Nope...wanted nothing to do with that.  He wanted to watch cartoons.  Do I get points because I at least tried?  LOL.  We did go to the park at the end of our street for about 45 minutes and pushed on the swing and such.  So I guess I shouldnt' feel to bad.  I am starving.  I will check back later.  Trying to make it to chat tonight.  We will see if her highness sleeps that long.  :roll:
bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: charleesmom on January 05, 2006, 01:14:12 am
Can anyone tell me what formate the Lilypies Baby Days is supost to be in for this website?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 05, 2006, 01:27:30 am
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but what is RSV?   I hope it's nothing too serious?...

Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 05, 2006, 02:03:39 am
haha!!!  He sat with me at the table after all and drew me a bug.   :D  So now, I feel better.

RSV is an infection of the bronchil tubes.  Started as an upper respiratory infection and went downhill from there.  Can be extremely dangerous for infants, esp preemies if not caught in time.  But we are on the upside now, so things are looking much better.  And Judy...don't feel uninformed...I kinda knew what it was, but I thought ONLY preemies got it.  How dumb was I?  (and this is kid #2)  :roll:  :shock:

I think my lilypie is in the http format, but I can double check if you like.
Yes "url=http" is the one I have on my profile.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 05, 2006, 03:23:42 am
What time is our chat?  Do we have a chat time now?  I wanna play  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 05, 2006, 03:26:50 am
there is chat going on inteh chat room now.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 05, 2006, 04:32:18 am
Charlees mom-  so happy to hear that your dh had some "Charlee time" this moring!  Doesn't it feel great when things work out between the whole family schedule thing?!!  :)  Brock is also a early waker..he goes down at 7 or 7:30 and NEVER sleeps past 6:00!!  I am glad to finally be getting some decent sleep at night but it is especially "stinky" on the weekends when I want to sleep in because I don't have to be up early for work.  But then again...I do work full time and once I am awake, I am glad to be spending as much time as possible with ds, while I have it!  :)

As fas as working...my situation is pretty "bitter sweet."  I do enjoy being a teacher and I love my co-workers!  but...I am just SO sad to leave my ds everyday.  There is nothing more I would rather do than be with him.
:(  Even though my Mom watches him everyday (we are so lucky), I still check in with her about 3-4 times just because I can't stop thinking about him! 

I would do ANYTHING to be able to make an income from home...anyone have suggestions???????????  My husband is also a teacher, hence why we both have to work...teachers in Northern California make NOTHING!

we are so blessed in so many ways, though...i always feel bad complaining.

It was fun chatting with some of you tonight, I guess Wednesday nights are going to be a regular chat time?

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 05, 2006, 12:28:45 pm
Wow.  It's 8:30 and owen is still sleeping... he slept right through the night.  I'm jealous of those lo who usually do.  Although I know they are all different, I sometimes feel inadequate that he doesnt' regularly sleep through thenight.  I personally think he's a good sleeper, but hten you talk to another mama and nope.  But he's sleepign like an angel right now.  Funny thing is yesterday he had one 2 hour nap, a 30 minute car nap and then another 30 minute cat nap.  At bedtime he went down no problem and gobbled up around 6 oz for his df.  strange.  not too sure what to make of it.

I had fun in the chat last night, but couldn't stay long cuz I'm in atlantic canada and it officially started at 11pm my time. 

I too wish I had a business I could do from home, but I'm not a sales person and it seems that that's what most of those jobs require, unless you have computer tech skills.  I think it's confirmed, I'm going back to work on Saturdays, but I will know more today when the manager confirms it with HR.  Cross your fingers.  Plus this way dh and owen will have a full day together. 

Arg.....   I always type sooooo much.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 05, 2006, 13:32:49 pm
Sorry i missed the chat yesterday, ill have to try and make it next time!

bj, it must be hard juggling work AND two kids!! I spend half my time worrying i dont play enough with tom (and the opther half worrying i play to much with him and he wont develope any indipendance/i never do enough housework!! :roll:  :roll:  :roll: ) so i dont know what id be like if i worked or had any other kids!!!!

Have to admit i disdnt know what RSV was either... but it must have been pretty frightning. The doctor thinks ds has astma, he is weezy every morning and has at least 1 inhalour puff a day, i know that is scairy enough, so my im glad cait is on the mend.

dh went back to work today, and although its lovely having him home (makes me feel IM having a holiday) its also nice to get back to a more normal routine! Im even quite glad to take the decorations down and restore some tidyness to our lives(we have finally found homes for all the new toys!!).

Anyway the air has just been filled with a suspicious smell that suggests i better go as nappychanging is needed! :roll:

bye
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 05, 2006, 14:11:20 pm
Alison-Juggling everything isn't real hard.  And at this point, I would have to deal with it anyway.  We have a pretty easy set up.  I only work 30 hours a week.  Monday 10 hours, Wednesday 10 hours, thursday 12-5, friday 12-5.  Dh has the children when I am at work since he works nights and now that we have moved to a new city, my MIL comes over on Thursdays and keeps the kids so that dh can sleep longer and she gets time with the kids.

Plus dh and I made a deal a while back.  I will do all of the dishes and he does all the laundry, so housework isnt' a big issue.  Plus I try to keep the living room picked up, as I can't stand clutter.  It works for us. :)


bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 05, 2006, 15:12:44 pm
Bummer... I missed the chat... I guess I didn't know we were going to have one! I know there was some talk awhile ago but I must of missed the final decision. Are guys planning to chat every Wed. evening? I would love to participate if I can.

My sister in-law is a pediatric nurse and she says that they have been swamped with sick little babies... babies with RSV and they are real sick. Poor little things! We have been healthy here.. knock on wood. Jake had a fever for about two days and a lot of congestion, but it seemed to clear up pretty quickly. It is amazing how helpless you feel when they get sick. I hope Cait is feeling better and you are too BJ :)

I just started working part time a few weeks ago, wish I didn't have too, but we need the money. I also love what I do and was starting to miss it. I defiantly wouldn't be able to do full time (kudos to those mom's that do!) part time is just fine. I worked out a flex time position with my employer so I can put in 20-30 hours a week, my choice. I have decided to stay closer to the 20 and only have Jake in daycare 2.5 days a week. Now only if I could find a great babysitter..... (story for another day :) )
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 05, 2006, 15:35:09 pm
I think the chat was for all mamas on the board.  I don't think anyone has decided on a chat specific for us.  Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 05, 2006, 16:00:52 pm
Just had to post this picture of Jake.... maybe he'll be a doctor? His daddy thinks he'll follow in his footsteps and build houses but I can't let him play with a hammer yet  :wink:

As for the chat time... I'm pretty flexible, any evening is good!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 05, 2006, 16:52:39 pm
Anyone want to do a daytime chat? I have a hard time making evenings work for me.......
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 05, 2006, 17:26:32 pm
As I am still stay at home and am on here pretty much everyday...I at least check in compulsively if not always for long, Whenever people want to chat then that's fine with me. 

On another note, For those moms in Canada who have access to the Toronto version of Breakfast Television on City TV, Jordon and I will be on tomorrow morning.  I'm not sure exactly what time, but I will probably guess between 7:30 and 9am.  We have to be at the station between 6:30 and 6:45 am!!!Boy that's early.  It's one thing to be up, but out of the house and in Makeup!?  I took a Salsa class in the fall and the moms and babies will be doing a demonstration for the show.  Check it out if you can.

I'm having a meeting with my boss next week to talk about going back to work.  As things stand right now, the cost of daycare almost makes it not worth it to work for me but I am the only one with benefits in my house and free dental and medical is a big deal and we don't want to lose that.  So there's some decisions that need to be made. 

See Ya
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 05, 2006, 18:44:13 pm
Im also fine to chat anytime (daytime is best as eve in us is very late night for me!!)

Judy... thats so exciting, wish we could see it here!! :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 05, 2006, 19:13:38 pm
Too bad we're all in such different time zones  :wink:

I am about to fall asleep at my desk.  We were watching the RoseBowl until midnight.  YAWN!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Sabine on January 06, 2006, 00:41:06 am
i am new to this thread...my lo was born June 27th 2005.  Looking forward to chatting with you all about the trials of motherhood, feeding, sleep etc. 

My guy just got his 2 bottom teeth in at once!! What a trooper.
Also started rolling this week front to back (he hates tummy time).

Sabine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 06, 2006, 00:50:33 am
Baaaahhhhhh! My mom was trying to convince me to go back to work go to collage (never made it :oops: ) today. It isn't worth it really, the daycare costs would eat up my whole paycheck and I don't hear her volunteering to watch him. Just let me enjoy my baby, he will only be this small once!

 Actually we were at lunch at a resturant! First time I had braved that with Aiden. He did fine, liked watching all the people.  I really don't give him enough credit...I was so afraid he would freak out but he was okay. He wouldn't take naps all day so he was in bed early tonight!

I also spend all day trying to fiqure out if I am playing with him too much or too little. I end up just playing with him all the time anyways. Who need a clean house :roll:

I hope all sick babies keep getting better! Aiden goes in next week for his 6 month shots so I am sure he will be one cranky little dude!

The chat last night the US chat, they do it every Wed. Usually it is pretty good. But night is really the only time I can chat. But I think with the diffrent time zones it might work out some how. Since we can't all chat at the same times....does that make sense?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 06, 2006, 14:29:50 pm
Wow you guys have been busy posting!  We had a 5:30am wake up call this morning by our DD.  I am never she how to adjust her routine when this happens. I have her a small bottle 3.5-4oz at 5:30 and then woke her at 8am and fed her about the same amount and then gave her solids right after. Now I will wait until around noon and feed her again. Is this what you guys would do?

DD has been really vocal the last few days and is getting louder and louder.  Anyone else feel their LO is really finding their voice? 

My DD also hate tummy time unless it is in the bath tub and then she really likes it.  She loves to sit up but rolling just doesn't interest her a whole lot. 

Welcome new mom.  I too found this forum late but it is kind of neat to read what everyone is up to.

Hope everyone has a good day.
Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 06, 2006, 16:19:13 pm
Welcome new mom!  It is always fun to have a new mommy join!

As I have said previously, my Mom watches our ds full time during the day except on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 12-4 when he goes to a close friends home daycare.  So, for Christmas, I got her a Gymboree pass so she could have something to do with ds once a week.   :wink:

Yesterday, we went and previewed the Level 2 (6-10 months) class.  It looked fun!  I am just wondering if any of you also have your lo's in a gymboree class and what you think?  How old were your lo's when they started?

Thanks,
Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 06, 2006, 16:41:11 pm
I wish we had a gymboree class.

Ok, all you working moms out there...do you ever feel like you are missing so much?  I do.  Luke gets home from daycare at 4, but he takes a nap for an hour or more.  Then we do veggies and fruit, a bath, a bottle and he's in bed by 6:45.  I just miss the little man.  Being off with him was so great.  Oh well.  I just keep reminding myself that I am helping to  provide a good home and a good life for him,

Still...some days it just sucks. :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 06, 2006, 17:32:08 pm
amy- I feel the same exact way!  Although, Brock rarely takes a nap after 4 (when I usually get home), I still have such limited time with him and we also have veggie and bath time before his final bottle.  He is in bed at 7:00.  I think  being teachers makes it even harder for us because we are around kids all day (just not our own  :( )  I know it is for me, at least.  But, I also try and remind myself that as teachers, we are home a lot earlier than most of the working world and we do get our great vacations!  It helps to find postitives amist my heartake....

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 06, 2006, 18:58:14 pm
To the moms working out of the home, I'm still trying to decided what to do about work.  My company is starting to try to entice me back (6 mos before my mat leave is up) and I'm just so unsure how I feel about the whole thing.   Ultimately, money is the biggest issue, I don't have enough to not work (still buying those lottery tickets) but daycare costs so much that it wipes out most of my salary.

I don't know what to do.  That's all I have to say today. 

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 07, 2006, 03:20:06 am
Hi everyone, Welcome new mommy! Nice to have you.

I hate to be a pain but could you guys post you routines? I would really appreciate it as I am trying to tweak Aiden's. He is completly off track and we are in no-nap land. It is scary here :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 07, 2006, 03:57:32 am
Well for some reason, I haven't been getting notifications that posts were being left on this thread.  I thought it was odd that out of ALL of us, none of us had anything to say today.

C- as for a routine....I am going to have to start all over myself.  This whole RSV thing has kicked the entire family's butt.  And since she wont' take more than 3 oz at a time for a bottle, makes it kinda hard to do anything else.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 07, 2006, 04:16:41 am
Chelsea- Check out the EASY board if you get a chance, there are a lot of 6-12 mo. old routines at the top of the forum. They might also give you some ideas.

Jakes schedule on most days is:

7:15 Wake up
7:30 Bottle (6-8 oz)
8:30 Breakfast (4-6 oz. of solids)
9:30 Nap (1.5-2 hrs)
11:30-45 ish Bottle
12:30 Lunch
1:30 Nap (start of this nap really depends on when he woke up from first 
        nap, 1.5-2 hrs.)
3:30 Bottle
5:30-45 ish Catnap
6:30 Supper
7:30 Bottle
8:00 Bath and wind down routine
8:30 Bedtime

We just added in lunch last weekend and it seems to be going well. I just feel like all he does it eat :) It seems it is always time for a bottle or a meal!

Right now, he doesn't stay up much more than 2.25-2.5 hours so we are still hanging on to the catnap. I would like to eventually move bedtime up a little but I like not getting up much before 7 a.m. and since he is taking good naps, I just don't think he will sleep more at night if I put him to bed earlier.

Anyway, hope that helps!

Judy- could you go back to work part time? I know how you feel about not wanting to work but having to for the money, I am in the same situation. My company offered me a flextime position which is great and I don't have to pay for fulltime daycare. Maybe you could look into working a little less, doing some from home, or job sharing. I am not sure what you do, but it is worth a shot.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 07, 2006, 12:05:00 pm
Grr....
We'd gotten into SUCH a great routine with two good, long naps during the day consistently at 10:30ish and 1ish.  Going back to daycare blew it all out of the water.  I am going to tell his caretaker next week to just put him in his bed at those times and LEAVE him, even if he's in there for 30 minutes or so.  He'll go to sleep eventually.  She said that he would start fussing, so she took him out.  Well, DUH!  He's fussing because he hasn't had a nap for two days!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 07, 2006, 13:14:22 pm
Heres toms routine... although he seems to have started cutting short his night time sleep. and waking 5, 5.30, 6, 6.30,7... he hardly has any sleep during the day, but may try to cut out catnap  as by 5.30 he no longer seems tired:?

Wake  7- 7.30 (use to be 7.30 8 :( )

8 oz bottle 7.45 (wont take it any earlier than this!!!)

breactfast 8.30 (weetabix or readybreak)

nap 9.30 (45 mins usually, sometimes 1.5 hrs)

lunch 12.00 (solids and water)

nap 1.15ish (again usually 45 mins... sometimes 1.5 hrs)

8oz bottle 3.30

catnap 4.30 (will only take this if hes not taken 1.5hr nap earlier)

tea 5.30(solids, yogert and water)

bath 6.00

8oz bottle 6.45

7.30 bed (goes to bed at 7.00 if not taken cat nap)

Its a bit of a funny routine as tom doesnt seem to need much daytime sleep as he has a good long night time sleep (or did until last week! :( ) and always wakes babbling happy and refreshed (even tho hes only had 45 mins!!!) Anyway hope that helps
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 07, 2006, 13:21:54 pm
Also found this typical hrs of sleep thingy on the sleep board... looks like they start to take less daytime sleep at about 6 months.. so this maybe why some babies need their routines ajusting

Quote (selected)
3 months old:
Night: 10 hours;
Day: 5 hours - 3 naps, 2 naps of 1.75 hours and 1 of 1.5 hours;
Total: 15 hours

6 months old:
Night: 12 hours;
Day: 2.25 hours - 2 naps, 1 of 1 hour and 1 of 1.25 hours;
Total: 14.5 hours

9 months old:
Night: 11 hours;
Day: 3 hours, 2 naps of 1.5 hours each;
Total: 14 hours
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 07, 2006, 14:26:39 pm
Jake is taking a lot more than 2.25 hours of naps, but I wish I could get him to sleep a little less during the day and then more at night. If he could do 12 hours at night, that would be awesome. I am absolutely not complaining about what he is doing now, I just wish he could stay up longer during the day. I just don't know how to begin changing the routine. If put him to bed at 7 p.m. he would still need a catnap. He usually wakes up from his afternoon nap around 3:15-3:30 p.m. and there is no way he could make it to bedtime without a nap.

I suppose I need to wait until he can stay awake longer, I can't seem to get him to go past 2.5 hours and sometimes that is stretching it :) Anyway, any suggestions on how to transition to less naps and still make it through the day?

Thanks!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 07, 2006, 15:18:51 pm
When tom doesn't have a catnap, he is VERY tired by bed time, but he can do a bit longer than he can during the rest of the day... the trouble is the pay off is a grizzly baby after his bath. :?

Tom also tends to get a second wind from solids, and a bath calms down the grizzles, could you give him supper earlier and then a bath about 6.00 when hes expecting his catnap?

We are trying to shorten the catnap (he now takes 20 mins and use to take 45) on the days he takes it to try and eventually cut it out... that way he still gets a little rest, but is sleepy enough to go to bed at his normal time (7.30) when he was taking 45 mins he wouldnt go to bed before 8.00 at the earliest (and even then he use to grizzle for 20 mins instead of settling down!)

It seems weird to be talking about lessening daytime sleep... I must have posted a thousamnd times trying to get Tom to take MORE daytime sleep :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 07, 2006, 15:47:51 pm
Here is Brock's schedule.  He is 6 1/2 months now.

6:00-wake

7:00-bottle (6oz.)

7:30-8:30-activity

8:30-solids

9:00-nap (usually an hour and a half)

11:00-bottle (6oz.)

11:30-12:30-activity

12:30-solids

1:00-nap (usually harder and shorter between an hour and hour and a half)

3:00-bottle (6oz.)

3:30-5:45-activity (he rarely catnaps anymore but if he does it is usally around 5:00-5:40).  but, I don't enforce the catnap, its kind of a if he falls asleep wherever he is then he does, if not, he doesn't.

5:45-solids

6:00-bath

6:45-bottle (8oz.)

7:30-bedtime

Hope this helps! :)

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 07, 2006, 16:27:14 pm
Our schedule is a little "whatever" at the moment, but it is typically -
Up at 7-7:30
Nursing and solids before naptime
9:30-11 ish naptime (usually shorter)
Nursing and solids
Nap 1:30-3ish - 2-4 is ideal!
Catnap if we are out - about 30-60 minutes sometime between 4-6
Bedtime is 7:30 - sometimes closer to 7 if no catnap
Bath is usually after solids at dinner time - Maybe 6:30ish
It does help stretch him further too

Hope that helps!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 07, 2006, 21:31:18 pm
Our typical day is this.

Awake between 7:30 and 8am He's usually pretty hungry at this time so we eat right away.  formula and cereal.  I do cereal first then his bottle. Then He goes down around 9:30am for two hours.  Awake around 11:30 for solids and bottle, then activity until 2pm.  Nap again for another 2 hours. 4pm awake for solids and bottle.  At 6pm if he's tired I'll put him down for a catnap, but otherwise, at 7pm he'll have another bottle.  7:30pm is bathtime, then his wind down and in bed by 8pm.

Everything is adjusted by about a half hour either way but that is typically how our days go.  I still do a dreamfeed at around 11pm and in fact some nights he will wake up before I go in.  We aren't taking this out for a while I don't think.

He gets roughly 22-25 ozs of formula and I would estimate a couple of tablespoons of solids per feed.  He seems to be doing well.  Still doesn't like the rice cereal though. 

Hope this helps you sort out your lo.  Enjoy your weekend.

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 07, 2006, 23:45:12 pm
Judy - re your work trying to get you to return early....I know of a woman who was asked to do this and she said the only way she would do it is if she could bring her son to work with her since daycare was an issue for her.  You could ask or ask if you could work from home?  That is of course if YOU want to return to work.

Such a tough choice. We could really use my income but I am determined to take off until May 1.  I am using the time at home to complete my Master's degree. When I return to work, I will only have one course left. It is tough but it will hopefully open more doors for me at work since I work at a University and jobs above me require a Masters.

Abbi has not been napping well the last two days. Not sure if it is teeth or what but morning naps haven't happened and afternoon naps are shorter...

She wakes usually at 7-7:30
Bottle at 7:30am
Solids 8 or 8:15
Nap 9:30 or 9:45 (when she naps usually it is a 1.5 hr nap)
Bottle 11:30
Solids 12
Nap 1:30
Bottle 3:45 ish
Solids 5ish
Bath 6ish
Bed 7 ish

She hasn't been taking catnaps regularly but sometimes she naps around 5:30 for 1/2 hour.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on January 08, 2006, 00:58:24 am
Hi guys long time no see!!!!

Sorry i have been awol for so long, i have been dealing with a lot of issue in my 'real' life at the moment and going has been tough. I am on meds now for the PPD and i am starting counselling next week so hopefully that will help.

For those of you that started to chat in my absence - hi!! My little man Red is 6 months and a couple weeks old, he was born on 24th June. I also have Ruby who is 2. I have been trying to read all of the pages i have missed and get to know everyone, but i skim read most of it so i doubt it went in!

Bj - Bummer about the RSV :(   :(  When i worked in respiratory paeds we would have the whole ward just full of RSV babies, it stinks. I hope that Cait is doing ok now.

Amy - thanks for the PM, i needed the kick up my backside - didn't know if i was still welcome!!!

Kayna - are you still around here - how is Avery doing?

Jennifer - i keep 'bumping' into you on various threads - seems Caedan and Red are still very alike!! He too is nursing more and more, don't know whether to be pleased or not?? I mean i'm pleased to still be nursing, but sometimes i think we should be past this whole 'eat every 3 hours thing!'

I'll post my schedule tomorrow when i get a minute, as it is late here am i need to sleep!

Its good to be back x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Kayna on January 08, 2006, 01:23:19 am
Clair, yay, you're back!! :D I just started up again since Amy gave me a kick in the pants too. I hadn't posted on this thread for so long I felt a little awkward starting up again. I'm slowly getting to know all the new faces. :wink:

Avery is doing very well. She is being treated for double ear infection and sinus infection and is doing tremendously better. Back to sleeping through the night and good naps during the day.

Still nursing but starting to wean (I selfishly want dairy again and my body back). She started solids a couple weeks ago and is doing good. Seems to enjoy it but could take it or leave it so far.

Our routine is just starting to even out since she was sick and teething for all of December. :roll: This is a very rough description.......

 :arrow: 7am wake and nurse
 :arrow: 9am nap
 :arrow: 11am bottle and solids
 :arrow: 1pm nap
 :arrow: 3pm bottle and solids
 :arrow: sometimes cat nap/most of the nap no
 :arrow: 6:30pm bath, nurse, bed.

Of course being the "boss" she likes to shake it up pretty much every day. :roll:  Guess I just go with the flow. As long as she's sleeping through the night I'm happy. :lol:  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 08, 2006, 02:12:57 am
Quote from: rooby-rooby-roo
Hi guys long time no see!!!!

Jennifer - i keep 'bumping' into you on various threads - seems Caedan and Red are still very alike!! He too is nursing more and more, don't know whether to be pleased or not?? I mean i'm pleased to still be nursing, but sometimes i think we should be past this whole 'eat every 3 hours thing!'

Oh  I know - we did better today - 3 hours apart all day!
It's an improvement......I guess these boys just love their milk!

Avery's hair is too cute! Love the picture Kayna! :D  :D

How are all the sick little ones doing? RSV any better BJ?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 08, 2006, 02:17:41 am
Okay that did help a lot. Thank you everyone! He had been dropping his catnap for about 2 weeks so I fiqured he need to extend his awaketime so he would be up for so long at night. This been going okay with him staying up for about 2.5 hours maybe 3. But then he started this nap strike. So I though he just needs less day sleep. But it is so hard to try to figure out his day.

Today he did go down for two naps both lasting about an hour. He really wasn't too bad cranky wise. Don't get me wrong he was cranky but on his scale cranky it really was nothing. But when he used to take a catnap he still gets really cranky. He won't sleep he just cries/fusses. I am just not sure what to do. Here is his day (allow for 30 minute variation)

wake at 7
Nurses when wakes up, solids an hour later
9:30ish down for nap for 1 hour
10:30 nurse, just started small lunch an hour after bf
12:30-1:30 goes down for second nap last about an hour
2ish eats, solids at 3
around 3:30-4 he starts getting cranky but will not sleep most days.
6 start getting ready for bed,
in bed by 7.

he tired by 6:15 but I really don't want to put him to bed everyday at 6. we just do bath, massage, pjs and bf but he takes forever to bf. That is why it takes an hour.

So from 4-on he is being a bit cranky. But he doesn't fall asleep, even in the car. So I would think his activty time earlier in the day would need to be longer. Most of ya'll are still only having about 2.5  A time. So I am a bit confused. It is easier for him to stay up in the evenings than the morning. Do you think he will get used to staying up longer in the evenings?

Sorry to hijack the thread, I just wanted your input. 

Thanks for your help ladies. Hope everyone is well.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 08, 2006, 02:40:48 am
Thanks you guys for asking about Cait.  We are on the road to recovery thank goodness.  Still having issues with taking a bottle, but I can handle that a bit better since she is at least eating a whole jar of solids...So I am thinking that with what  formula she is taking and the water from the solids, we should be okay where dehydration is concerned.  She was back to her "normal" self today, but you can tell her tummy is a bit out of whack.  And her poo.....let's not EVEN go there.  :roll:  :wink:

And as I posted a couple of posts ago, Cait isnt' on a schedule right now because of being sick, and it just occured to me that Dh is only home 1 week out of the next 3, so that pretty much blows all of January out of the water for any kind of "normalcy".  Oh well.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 08, 2006, 03:18:47 am
I am glad Cait is better. I am sorry to ask but what do your husband do? Gone for 3 weeks?  :shock:  Hugs to you girl! You are amazing!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 08, 2006, 03:29:18 am
He's a cop.  He has just joined the Hostage Negotiations Team, and is going to training and then home a week and then off to some sort of competition type thing.

But earlier this week, after much debate and conversation, we have decided NOT to put in for the new K-9 position coming open.  As much as I want him to pursue all of the things he wants to do in law enforcement, I am kinda relieved that he is not doing this one.  It would require 4 months in UTAH.....that is 4 months of Cait's life that he will never get back.  Luckily, he knows this (I am not  a nagging wife, I dont' harp) and was not willing to do that for so long away from ALL of us.  So.....I dodged the bullet on that one.   :wink:  (yes, pun intended!!  LOL)

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 08, 2006, 04:21:11 am
Welcome back Claire!  We missed you!
BJ, soooooooooooooooooo glad that Cait is better and that dh isn't going to be missing so much!

Will post more tomorrow. Luke's having a rough night.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 08, 2006, 14:12:13 pm
Rooby rooby roo, glad your back.  I'm sorry to hear that you've been having a rough time of it with PPD.  I hope all goes well with the meds and you are back to your old self soon. 

Just wanted to post quickly.... Jordon's currently awake and kicking me in the side while he plays with his toys.  Last night was a bad night sleepwise, he kept waking up and needed us to resettle.  He's moving around a lot in bed and this morning when I went in, he was on his stomach, and probably a little confused as to how he got there.  This is the first time he's done that!  Woohoo, another milestone. Check that one off the list!

Hope everyone has a good day.  We're off to celebrate Ukranian Christmas with my Dad today....Thank goodness, the last Holiday event.  Phew..!

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 08, 2006, 14:57:27 pm
I don't know what was wrong with Luke last night.  He cried and cried and cried until 10:30 or so when he FINALLY made it to sleep.  He woke up at 6 for a bottle and went right back to sleep and is still sleeping at 9.  The boy is usually getting ready for a nap at this time, so who knows how today will go.  I wonder what is wrong with him.  He doesnt' usually scream like that.  We gave him Tylenol, Gas Drops, ear drops, and baby Orajel.  I don't know what else to do when he is that upset.  I just know that something was hurting or he wouldn't have been screaming quite like that.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 08, 2006, 16:01:42 pm
Probably the tylenol worked wonders for him.  You know that when they go through these growth spurts they can "grow" an inch literally overnight.  That has to hurt, I would imagine.  You may not know exactly what the deal is, but just keep hugging him.  I know it is hard.  Stupidly, last night I went and flipped Cait from her tummy to her back.....yeah....an hour and a half later, I finally got her back to sleep after giving her  a bottle and then against my better judgement, went ahead and put her down on her tummy again.  Guess that will teach me to leave sleeping babies lie.   :roll:  :roll:  What was I thinking?  I got incredibly frustrated with her, called dh and snapped at him and was generally not a jolly person to be around.  Probably best he was at work.  So...lesson learned.

So who else has tummy sleepers?  Please tell me this is okay. I dont' want anything to happen to her. :cry:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 08, 2006, 16:26:49 pm
Bj- I have a friend who's baby sleeps on tummy and I think it is fine. They are past the age where SIDS is a huge concern and once they have can roll over and have a mind of there own, there is no stopping them :) My friend can't keep her baby on her back at all the minute she is put in her crib.

And her baby is so far ahead of her time... has been crawling for a month now, is beginning to pull herself up in the crib... you would think you are looking at a 9-10 mo. old, she is pretty amazing. I can't believe it when I watch her knowing she is eight days younger than Jake. Jake seems pretty inactive compared to her, but I'm glad 'cause I am not sure I am ready for it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 08, 2006, 16:46:53 pm
Thanks Jennifer.  I am starting to wonder if "bumponalogitis" is hereditary, because Ryan had it when he was  a baby and Cait doesn't seem to be in much of a hurry to do anything either.  :roll:

I think she would be happier if she could move around and get into trouble.  :D (like her brother)

Amy!!!!!  The kids are 7 months on TUESDAY!!!!!!   :shock:  :shock:

Guess I better start thinking of first bday plans.  I have to start WAY in advance, especially with all we have going on.  :roll:

ohohohohohohohoh...I think I already have the theme!!!  woohoo...LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!  Dont' even start yelling at me for starting to plan.  I have a lot of fun doing this.  BUT....I am NOT one of "those" mothers that goes way over the top.  I dont' have to since we have so much family that we pretty much just serve lunch and everyone else does the entertaining.  :)  I keep things pretty low key....no pony rides and balloon clowns here.  :)

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 08, 2006, 17:33:26 pm
Owen rolls over, so half the time he sleeps on his tummy and the other half on his back.  I figure, if he's strong enough to roll over, I'm not goign to stress over it.

My schedule is never the same.  i follow all his cues, but he's angel and is pretty textbook in his naps, etc.  Sometimes we do the cat nap, sometimes we don't.  He naps about 4 hours a day.  But maybe that's why he's a late sleeper.... still not too sure.

The past 4 nights he has slept through the night.  Well, we still do the df and he has woken up 3 of the nights at weird times, but has put himself back to sleep.  I am sooooo happy!  I think it will take a few days for my breasts to realize they don't need milk for around 5am!!!!  lol
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 08, 2006, 18:11:07 pm
Tom sleeps on his side... often he wont go to sleep on his back, or wakes in the night frrustrated because he cant get onto his side properly, so i often put him down on his side. :?  HV said this was fine (and so is tummy sleep now) as long as he can move possition if he gets too hot etc.,  I worry about it sometimes, but need him to get a good nights sleep and this is the only way!! :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 08, 2006, 18:53:37 pm
Bj, Luke sleeps on his belly...will NOT sleep on his back.  We just put him down on his tummy.  We don't even bother with putting him on his back.  He's slept that way since September.

Don't worry.  We've already started thinking about Luke's birthday, too.  We're going to do it at my parent's house.  That's a nine hour drive, but by then he'll face the front and maybe we can listen to Baby Einstein for nine hours  :shock:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 08, 2006, 19:21:07 pm
Hello, Ladies!

Brock is a tummy sleeper too.  We have been putting him on his tummy since he was 8 weeks old!  SCARY!  However, he is perfectly fine and always has been.  Just like Amy, we don't even put him down on his back anymore, he goes right down on his tummy.

Also...it might relieve you to know thta the risk of SIDS decreases by 70% when they turn 6 months.

It is the first sunny, not rainy day in months here in Northern California, so I am taking my little bundle to the park.  We might try the swings for the first time  :)

Have a great day!
-christine and brock
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 09, 2006, 04:40:45 am
Jency has awlays slept on his tummy.  Now though he can roll and so he puts him self to sleep how ever is most comfortable at that time.  Some nights it's on his side, others his back and some on his tummy.  I lay him on his tummy when I lay him down and then he gets himself comfortable with his blanky.

Have you guys ever read any articles on mattress wrapping and SIDS?
Here is a link http://www.cotdeathprevention.com/Frequently%20As.html.  I just thought it made a lot of sense.  I didn't know if it was factual or not so I did some research and sure enough it is true.  You can look it up and do some research as well.  So when we get Jency a crib we are going to get one of those mattress covers.  Right now I don't even worry about the possibility of SIDS.  Never have since he sleeps in the play pen and not on a mattress.

Jency's routine:

7:30ish Up and Nurse
8:30ish Cereal and fruit (3-4oz)
9:45ish Nap till around 11:15
11:30ish Nurse
12:00ish Veggies (2-3oz)
1:30ish Nap till around 3:00
3:30ish Nurse and puffs
5:00ish cat nap
5:30ish Veggies and Fruit (4oz)
7:00ish bath, massage, pjs
7:30ish Nurse
8:00ish Bed

I want to lengthen his awake time to 3 hours and take out his cat nap!  Maybe try to make his last nap 2 hours as well or both naps 1 hour and 45 min!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 09, 2006, 08:38:24 am
Has anyone elses babies started crying at grandparents etc? Tom use to smile and giggle at anyone, but now he crys when my dad or my inlaws visit everytime he even looks at them. My Dad lives down in Oxford and sees him once a month when he comes up to visit, and is convinced Tom doesnt like him any more! My MIL jokes about it, but i think it uipsets her a bit, as all her other (6) Grandchildren never had a problem wirth her and were just scaired of Phils dad (who is ok with it as hes use to it!!).

Tom does calm down and go to them after about 15 mins (takes him about a day to get aclimatised to my Dad who he sees less often) and hes fine withother mums at mother and baby group, and strangers who coo at him on the street!

Im hoping as he gets older he'll start to recognise his grandparents and not cry any more, what do you think? :?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 09, 2006, 14:38:14 pm
Jency didthat at Christmas.  We hadn't seen my parent's since THanksgiving and then they came for Christmas.  He was okay for like hours and I was there and everything.  But then all of a sudden he looked at my mom and started screaming.  I was still there though.  I have no idea what happened.  But then the next weekend we saw them and as soon as they came in he started smiling and then this weekend we saw them and he was completely fine.  I think seeing them 3 weekends in a row helped.  But now I don't know when we will see them again and I'm afraid he will do it again.  It broke my moms heart!  I think I will start getting pictures of them all out!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 09, 2006, 20:07:07 pm
As we don't see grandparents very often because of where we live, I can relate in the way of close friends.  My best friend can't hold him anymore.  I'm not sure what happened, but he freaks everytime she tries to.  He seems to go to anyone else, but her.

Also a little funny story.  I am a bit of a potty mouth and so is dh.  We decided that when ds is 6 months old we have to clean it up.  Now, it's getting close to the 6 month mark so it's been on my mind.  Well, didn't I have a dream last night that the little one was saying some first words and what did I hear?....  you guessed it, the worst one it could be!  Guess we may start a little earlier now.  lol

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 09, 2006, 20:12:56 pm
My BIL's first word was sh*t and now he's a minister....so, I guess there's hope for everyone  :wink:
We are going back to the pedi this afternoon.  Luke is not taking his bottles and is screaming bloody murder at night when we put him down.  His little butt is raw, and I know that is from the antibiotics, but I am afraid that there something more that is wrong.  He has always been good about taking his bottles and now I can't get him to take more than 2 oz at a time.  He doesn't get fussy, he just refuses to take them.  As much liquid poo as he's been shooting out (ah, glorious antibiotics!) he needs the fluids!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 09, 2006, 20:41:37 pm
oh Amy!!!  I am so sorry.  Sounds as though Cait and Luke need to be crib mates.  She is being an absolute WITCH to put down for naps and bedtime.  I am going insane because of it.  Let us know what the dr says!!!

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 09, 2006, 20:58:50 pm
It's just so frustrating.   I think that some people think that I am making all of this stuff up.  He's been at the doctor's office so many times in the last (almost  :shock: ) seven months.  I know that all the stomach stuff was undiagnosed reflux, but the allergies, the ear infections....sometimes I wonder if I overreact, and my sister-in-law (who happens to be a pediatric nurse at Children's Hospital in Dallas) just reassured me that I am on the ball.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 09, 2006, 21:28:21 pm
You must always go with your gut instinct, very seldom will it lead you wrong.  Plus YOU are your child's advocate, you are HIS voice, so protect your child.  And if you dont' like the treatment, diagnosis you are given, get a second opnion.  You never know when it could turn into something more dire than a simple ear infection.  (by no way am I belittling an ear infection, I know what a pain in the arse they are.  :roll: )

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 09, 2006, 22:16:09 pm
Good to know I am not a lunatic.  Both ears are STILL infected.  They've taken him off the Augmentin b/c his butt looks like it was run over a cheese grater.  He only took 5 oz total from his bottles today.  Thank goodness for bananas and squash.  He ate all of his solids.  They recommended something called Dumboro (sp?) Soak.  So, Luke will get two or three baths tomorrow with that and hopefully it will help his little hiney.

I am staying home with him tomorrow and if people don't like it they can kiss my %@&.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 09, 2006, 22:22:08 pm
POOR BABY!!!!!  My heart breaks for him.  :cry:   They dont' understand why they feel like this, poor guy!! 

Yes, thank goodness they are on solids, if it weren't for that, Cait would be starving daily. She does NOT like taking her bottle while her ear is  infected.  I would imagine it does hurt to swallow, or to put that kind of pressure on their ears with the whole sucking on a bottle and swallowing milk all while trying to breathe.  You know....being a baby isn't all it's cracked up to be.   :wink:

Hope he feels better soon. 

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rooby-rooby-roo on January 09, 2006, 23:34:17 pm
Aww Amy, lots of kisses for Luke :cry:  :cry:  Hope he feels better soon x x x
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 10, 2006, 00:35:32 am
Caeden's still doing pretty good with others......unless he is hungry or really tired then he just wants me. Occassionally he has "requested" mama with a cry but he is usually good.

he is scooting all over now, crawling can't be too far behind! He gets up on all fours and rocks.

gotta go - he is crying -
hope all are feeling better!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 10, 2006, 03:26:26 am
Por Luke and Cait!!  I feel so bad for them!  I'll be praying for them!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 10, 2006, 03:30:11 am
Have you tried putting vaseline on his bottom to keep the poo from sticking and macking it all raw and chapped.  Just something my DH mentioned.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 10, 2006, 03:34:35 am
Adria - I love the college of pictures......too cute!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 10, 2006, 11:29:10 am
Glad to hear its not just Tom who can be a bit funny with other, I guess it must just be a phase if so many babies are doing it, hopefully they'll grow out of it soon!

Poor Luke and cait, it sounds like there illnesses are really draging on. I agree that you should follow your instincts about seeing a doctor. My doctor says shed rater be bothered with something simple, than something majour be missed because a parent is worried to bother the doc.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 10, 2006, 12:26:45 pm
Hey guys! Sorry I was absent for a while but we went on a little clandestine vacation!  I'm going to sit and read all the post I've missed but just wanted to drop by and say hi!

Anywhooo, in the past 2 weeks Santiago has....

*completely sat up by himself and get into a sitting position from his tummy

*begun to crawl ( he'll only take 1 or 2 steps )

*gotten his first tooth!

The latter was great because he showed no signs of teething until he bit me!! No fussing, no crying, it was heaven!


OOOHHH! I almost forgot, he also got cast for a Nokia commercial!  :D

Me on the other hand....grrrrr.....gained lots of holiday weight and can't seem to get myself back on track with eating healthy.  :evil:

Ok, I'm off to read the posts
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 10, 2006, 12:57:12 pm
Amy, so sorry to hear about Luke.  My thoughts are on the little guy.

So many sick little babies... it breaks my heart.

Who was the mom who was on the Mom Show?  I just saw it today and they were dancing doing hte salsa, etc.  I thought a mom on here said they were on that episode.  Was it Judy?

Adria, the picture is adorable.  You  must be a computer genious.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 13:37:15 pm
We use Aquaphor at EVERY diaper change, but the diarrhea from the Augmentin was poo that packed a punch.  Now we're using stuff in his bath three times a day called Domeboro soak.  It's found near the hemrhoid (I know I spelled that wrong) items.  We're also using Boudreaux Butt Paste....it's the best stuff we've found...until the redness goes away and then we'll be back on the Aquaphor.

He's in the living room right now playing and singing.  I feel silly staying home with such a happy baby, but to tell you the truth, I really don't care.  Last night and this morning when I went into his room, he grabbed be by the face with both hands and put my face in his mouth.  I know he's kissing me.  It's so funny and my heart completely melts everytime.  Who knew I'd fall so in love with a bald, toothless (except for two), slobbering man  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 10, 2006, 14:04:08 pm
Rebeca - That's great about Santiago getting a commercial.  We've thought about doing the same sort of stuff with our lo, but everytime I see a commercial where the baby has to cry, "I think, What are they doing to the baby to make him cry for the shot?"    Good luck with the shoot, and congrats on all of the new developements in his life.

Daisy - It was another show I was supposed to be on (it fell through, long story) but that is the lady who teaches my salsa babies class.  I have been on the mom show as well, but it was on an episode where we talk about having sex during pregnancy, and no sex after.... (my mom was so proud to see her daughter on national television talking about her sex life)...=)

To luke and Caits moms- boy do I hope your lo's are feeling better soon.  So sad to hear about them being sick. =(

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 14:29:15 pm
Have any of you ever seen WHITE poo?  I just did.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 10, 2006, 15:09:32 pm
Nope.....never seen any here.....and I have seen lots of poo!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 10, 2006, 15:37:47 pm
(shaking my head....what has our life come to, we are talking about poo? And what color it is.... :shock:  :shock:  :lol:  :roll:  :D  :lol:  :wink: )

Someone has Caitnapped my Cait and left a monster in her place.   :evil: 

Post later.

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 15:39:56 pm
Brandy, I am sorry, but I know exactly how you feel.  Luke SCREAMS when I put him in his crib.  I guess that's what I get for thinking "Separation anxiety?  Not my kid!"  :roll: Yesterday dh picked Luke up from daycare and I met them at the doctor's office.  When I got there he was so excited to see me.  Well, when I had to go to the bathroom, you would have thought that I just told him that I was leaving forever.  Poor kid had a total melt-down!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 10, 2006, 16:38:10 pm
okay...well that makes me feel 100% better that someone else is going through the same thing.  We had a HORRIFIC night last night.  I am embarrased by my behaviour last night.  You would have thought I had definitely stepped off the deep end.  I was having a temper tantrum like my four year old.  :roll:  :oops: I just want some sleep.  It does NOT help that dh is gone till Thursday nor that AF will be here tomorrow.  I have all kinds of things going against me. :cry:

So...now all I have to figure out is Cait waking in the night due to the binky, the antibiotics or still having side affects from the RSV?  And if it IS the binky, I need to break that NOW, just not sure how.  :shock:   

Oh if it isnt' one thing, it is another.  And for the heck of it, let's throw a housewarming party on Saturday  :D  :roll:  :shock:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 10, 2006, 16:40:09 pm
Happy 7 Months, Luke and Cait!!!!

 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 16:54:53 pm
Man, and I thought I was busy!
I just put Luke in his crib because he yawned three times and he SCREAMED and SCREAMED.  Makes a girl feel like a bad mama, but now he's sleeping.

Happy 7 months to Luke and Cait!  And isn't it superman's 6 month b-day?

Here's Luke's seven month pic.  God, I love that kid.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 10, 2006, 17:29:05 pm
first off- AMY-OMG...Luke is the cutest thing ever!  I LOVE that outfit! So sorry to hear he is still not feeling well!

On the not feeling well part...Brock is MISERABLE!  I know I am going to sound like a big baby myself but if any of you have ever seen your lo's projectile vomit, you know how I feel!  :(  :(  :(

I got a call from my Mom yesterday at about 3:00 saying I should come home because he just vomited everywhere...I thought, "oh, grandma, he probably just had a lot of spit up and it felt like he threw up," but of course I still went right home.  OH, BOY WAS I WRONG!!!!!  When I walked in the door, and walked up the stairs, there was vomit EVERYWHERE! My Mom looked like she was the head coach of a football team and had just been drenched with a bucket of water!  He proceeded to vomit 3 more times in 2 hours.  I called the doctor and he said give him pedialite and keep monitoring him.  Oh, gee, thanks for the advice, doc!  Did you think I was just going to drop him off at a babysitters and go out drinking for the night?!  I swear, sometimes doctors are more annoying than helpful.

So...anyway, enough of my complaining, Brock last vomited at about 6:00 last night and he had his morning bottle and solids with no problem so far.  Hopefully the worst is over.  The weirdest part was he didn't have a fever and pretty much didn't act bothered by it except whle it was happeneing and right after because he was so scared...SO SAD!!!  It is a very scary thing, watching your helpless little baby vomit so much and so harshly!  :(

I hope there are very few moms out there that have experienced this and if you haven't yet, I will pray that you don't ever (at least until they are old enough to know what is going on and that it will eventually get better).

Well...I am sure that brightened everyones day   :wink:   I just needed a place to vent about how sad it made me.  thanks for listening!

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 10, 2006, 17:53:50 pm
he is SOOOO cute!!!!  And he looks so LONG in that pic!!  I meant to get one of Cait in the exersaucer, but my brain is fried right now.  She is still napping so hopefully I will get one this afternoon.

Christine- OMG!!  Poor Brock!!!  What do you think caused all of that?  Ry has only thrown up twice in 4 years, and so far Cait never has, but boy let me tell you!!!  I do not look forward to that day!!  I don't like to throw up, much less watch/help my kids through it.  :roll:   Glad to hear that he is feeling better. Tell Grandma next time to not stuff him so full.  :wink:   And thanks for letting me see the "brighter" side of my predictament.  :D  :wink:

Shall we rename this thread "Sick Babies June/July '05"   :roll:

HAPPY 6 MONTHS, AIDEN!!!!    :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 18:11:30 pm
Poor Brock!  Luke had the projectile vomit at 9 weeks, but in hindsight, I think it was the beginning signs of reflux.  Man, I never saw vomit shoot out like that, though.  As for your mom, has she recovered?  That has to be traumatic!

I just called the doc again and talked to the PA.  Luke's little butt is just so, SO raw  She's calling in a Rx for some Boro Paste (I think that's the name of it)

I say that at 7:30 pm Central Standard Time, we all have a glass of wine, a beer, or whatever makes you happy and toast each other.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 10, 2006, 18:14:49 pm
bj- thanks for the concerns!

I guess I kind of forgot to include the important art of how he got sick....oops  :)  My husband came home from work yesterday morning throwing up everywhere!!!!  He is still in bed as we type!  We think he has a stomach virus.

That would also be another important part of why I am so tired right now...taking care of 2 vomiters!  Plus, my husband is so sad to be on bedroom "lock down" and not able to see or be around Brock.  :(

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 10, 2006, 18:16:17 pm
amy- great idea with the toasting but can I have the whole bottle and not just a glass  :)  :wink:

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 18:30:27 pm
You knock yourself out, Christine, but if you do, there shall be no whinning about THREE pukers in your house  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 10, 2006, 18:37:33 pm
Awwww, I'm so sorry to read about so many sick babies!   :cry:   The worst thing in the world is a sick baby!  MY niece has had a horrible cold and lingering cough since about 3 weeks ag, and since I take care of her in the afternoon I get to see that worst of it.  I do evrything in my power to keep her away from ds, but the love each other so much that it's hard!

And poor Luke and his little tooshie! I hope it heals quickly!

And as for white poop? Hmmmm, haven't seen it be WHITE but very very pale when he eats soursop, but other than that it mostly colorful.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 10, 2006, 18:41:18 pm
Well, I definitely plan on the toast tonight!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 10, 2006, 18:50:09 pm
:(  poor Brock sounds horrible. Imalso not good with vomit so ithink i would go into meltdown if BOTH dh an ds had a bug. I already refuse to talk to dh fgor a week if he gets sick (yep i know :roll: ... im going to get hypnotheripy for it... i dont think tom would be quite so understanding about my phobia as phil is!!)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 10, 2006, 22:15:45 pm
Ok, well, we just went to the doctor AGAIN.  I told my pediatrician "When you decided to take us on as new clients, I bet you didn't think you'd see us three times in the first week."  To sum it up, Luke turned into a strawberry.  It started on his forehead and moved down his body.  He's having an allergic reaction, we think, to the shot.  Sooooooooo, he gets Benadryl three times per day and we're going to start a NEW antibiotic tomorrow.  Oh, and did I mention that both ears are STILL infected and he's running a fever?  I am losing it.  I just started bawling in the doctor's office.  I just want my little dude to be well.  It seems like he's been sick from one thing or another since September.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 10, 2006, 22:22:40 pm
Oh Amy, you poor thing! {{{HUG}}}.  Good thing you such an observant and persistent mom and caught his reaction early.  He'll get better soon, you'll see

ExOh
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 11, 2006, 01:17:33 am
Amy,

I am so sorry to hear about Luke. You poor thing and I feel for you.  I know when my DD just had an ear infection, I felt so bad for her and you have it so much worse.

I hope that he feels better soon and that you get a bit of a break as well. Hang in there. I try to always remember, "this too will pass." 

Happy 7 months to all the LO's. Abbi will be 7 months on Sunday. Boy has time gone by quickly.

Well, gotta run. I am doing an online class tonight for my Master's.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 11, 2006, 01:46:59 am
POOR LUKE!!!
I feel for him and you!
Ask your doctor about a butt cream called Grooms Ointment.  My mom had her day care 3 years ago she used to be able to just go in to the pharmacy and ask for it and they would make it up.  She gave me what was left.  Now you can only get it by Rx.  It works MIRACLES!!!

I hope Brock is feeling better...and Cait...and all the sick babies.

DH had a cold the past week and I think me and Jency came down with it today.  I am just feeling really run down and tired and that is ALWAYS how my colds start.  Jency didn't eat any solids until 6:30pm and he would not let me leave him!!  And he took at 2.25 hour nap this afternoon on top of his 1.5 hour nap this morning and then he took a 30min cat nap this evening!  Other then that he has been SO good. 

Last weekend we went up North (3 hour drive) to go to a Bridal thing that my sister was going to...Oh ya, my sister just got engaged and is getting married June 10th!!  We went to a try on for gowns and then a fair type thing for wedding stuff and then drove home, stopped at village inn and ate dinner.  Jency was SO GOOD!  he was a charmer even though he only got an hour nap on the way up and a 1.5 hour nap on the way back.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 01:55:11 am
Thanks for all the hugs, everyone.  We'll be ok.  I just wish that this New Y ear's Eve gift wasn't the gift that keeps on giving.  We're ready to be done with it!

I had my beer at 7:30, so CHEERS everyone!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 11, 2006, 02:18:31 am
I had a beer at 7:30 too. Cheers to you too. :-)

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 11, 2006, 02:56:46 am
Darm, I finished the wine last night.

Poor Luke. Amy you deserve a case of beer.  {{{{{hugs}}}}}  all the poor sick babies, I can't believe it.

On an up note, I actually got owen to eat.  I tried after keeping him off it for a few days.  What I did is give him the spoon, and although messy, he ate the little that made it to his mouth.  I guess I'll just have to make a lot to ensure he receives enough.  It was soooo cute.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 11, 2006, 03:14:04 am
Not that you want it, Amy....but you win first prize for sickest baby.  Good Grief, when will it end?  This RSV thing Cait got was the xmas present she got from another member of the family.  :evil:

Poor Luke...POOR MOMMY!!!  But good catch on allergic reaction.  One of the meds the dr put Cait on made her face swell...Needless to say that went in the trash.  Hope the little man feels better soon.  Staying home tomorrow?

Adria...June 10th is a GREAT day to get married on.   :wink: Nothing like having an outing where your child does real well.  Congrats.

Daisy...Cait gets the spoon, but then promptly gags herself with it.  :roll:   Kinda defeats the purpose of eating.  :wink:

Sorry I missed the round of drinks....went back to my hometown to start tying up loose ends for the housewarming this weekend.  woohoo....

bj

I was just reading this for typos, and noticed we just hit page 100!!!!!  LOL
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 11, 2006, 03:53:31 am
Its only 7:45 in California right now so I am still working on my bottle of wine.  :)  Just teasing...I wouldn't wake up tomorrow if I had a whole bottle.  I just finished my glass, though.

I do hope everyone else's lo's are better soon.  Amy, I will especially keep you and Luke in my prayers.

night!

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 13:46:23 pm
Thanks everyone for the well-wishes.  It means alot.

I went into Luke's room this morning and could see his little rash in the DARK.  I called the doc at 6:30 this morning to see what to do.  They said that that rocefin (sp) shot will stay in his system for 10 days and he might have a rash for that long  :shock: but to watch for difficulty breathing.  I think that if his airway was going to swell, it would have already done that.

So, we're going to start antibiotic number 4 today, but I am going to wait until tonight.

Damn, I am tired.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 14:58:54 pm
Just wanted to show you Luke's pitiful little face.  This is all over his body.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 11, 2006, 15:10:30 pm
Oh poor baby Luke.....I  hope this next round of meds works well!

We went to Cheyenne yesterday to se my grandma  and a couple aunts and uncles from out of town. She is still not doing well. They cannot find what is causing her pain and cannot keep the pain under control :cry:  SO - she loved seeing Caeden though- she calls him the judge cause he always looks so serious.

Gee Adria - I must have passed you on the freeway - we headed north, thru Denver, stopped in Greely to get clamps for my DH and then up to Cheyenne and back last night.

I hope everyone is feeling better - hoping I don't have something, I am all stopped up in my ears and head this morning......I think it is sinuses, but hoping it is not a cold.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 11, 2006, 15:12:43 pm
OH - Happy 7 Month to Caeden today........ who else is next up for a "month-aversay"?
 :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 15:16:31 pm
Happy 7 months Caeden!

I think it's so funny that your grandmother calls him the judge.  I lauged out loud at that one. :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 11, 2006, 16:02:54 pm
Brock will be 7 months on the 28th of January.  Still a few weeks away.  He is doing better today, except now it is coming out of the other end  :( .  However, even though it smells much worse I will take sick babies with liquid poop diapers anyday before vomitting babies!

Brock goes to his first Gymboree class today with my Mom.  I am so excited to see how he does  :)

Oh, yeah and I don't know if I forgot to tell you or not but when we gave him pedialite, it was like "speed" for babies!  :)  :)  I have NEVER seen him so active!!  It was too funny!  Anyone else's baby react this way to pedialite?

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 11, 2006, 16:03:57 pm
Happy 7 month b-days everyone! Thank you Amy-Aiden is 6 months old as of yesterday. Unfortuatly he had his 6 months round of shots and still has a fever. We bout slept about 3 hours last night and I just know got him down for a nap....four hours after he woke up. I felt so bad for him last night he was pitiful! I had to put him in the bath at 4 am to try to get his high fever down. He was so tired he just kept holding his arms out for me to pick him up. :cry:

Luke your poor sweet baby. I can't imagine how you feel right now. Hopefully your Mommy got to skip work today to take care of you. :wink:

Crap Aiden is up......15 minute nap, that should do it.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 11, 2006, 16:21:30 pm
We've reached page 100!!!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 16:24:09 pm
I AM home with Luke....for the rest of the week!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 11, 2006, 16:29:12 pm
Aw... poor poor Luck.  Hang in there Amy.

And Aiden too. 

 :(  :(  :(

My goodness, Owen is the runt of the litter...  he hasn't even turned 6 months yet.  oh well, you ladies always let me know what's just aroudn the bend, except i hope the illnesses don't come with the age. 

Trying a new sitter today, we'll see how it goes.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 11, 2006, 21:16:59 pm
Poor Luke!!!!  (sniff, sniff) Feel so sorry for the poor little dude.

I won't celebrate too loudly but Cait FINALLY slept through the night last night, ON her back, and didtn't  fuss when Binky fell out.  Didnt' wake up once, I was so freakin' happy this morning.  So...it seems as though we are definitely recovered. And I hope to never have to go through this cra* again!!!!  AMEN.

Caeden-happy 7 months!!!

Haven't been getting my topic reply notifications...so bear with me if it takes a while to respond.  :roll:

Amy, glad you are off for the rest of the week.
b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 21:41:28 pm
Hey All Y'all
I finally get a break from my "Mama don't you dare get out of my sight" kid.  He's snoozin.  I guess the Benadryl kicked in.  I'd like to take some, but I am afraid I'll sleep until Sunday. DH snored like he's never snored before last night.   :roll:

So BJ, Cait is on the mend?  Glad to hear it!  How often do you have to go back to the doc with her?

You know, in the grand scheme of things, I know that I am so lucky.  Luke is (for the most part) a very healthy baby.  It really makes you count your blessings when you read about some other moms' problems.

Thanks for all the support.  All the "poor Amys" really make it easier :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 11, 2006, 21:49:03 pm
Quote from: amystoker
All the "poor Amys" really make it easier :wink:

I know....DH just doesn't understand.....sometimes that is all I want.....A poor me and move on!
It is rough having a sick or fussy baby.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 11, 2006, 22:23:23 pm
We are going back on the 17th to have her lungs listened to again to make sure that there isnt' any lingering wheezing.  And to have her ears checked again to make sure the infection is gone.  Hopefully she will be better to get her flu shot booster that she is due for.  Other then that, we dont 'go back till March for her 9 mo checkup.

I am leaving work, so I will catch up with you guys when I get home.  :D

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 11, 2006, 22:52:26 pm
Okay, I know some of you ladies got into the sauce yesterday, but geez....!  I missed checking in last night and there were 5 pages to read!!!! Wow! 

I too had a drink at 7:30 last night, although it wasn't my first and I'm ashamed to say not the last.... I had a meeting with my supervisor to go over some of the contingencies for returning to work.  This is the first time she has ever had a staff member go on maternity leave so this is all to her as well.   It went well though, we ate, we drank and we had a really good honest conversation about what it would take in order for me to be happy away from my lo.

Amy- My heart just breaks seeing that picture of Luke, poor little guy.  I hope he feels better soon. 

BJ- congrats on getting a good night sleep!  I know how exciting that is when it finally happens.... Sounds like cait is getting better.

Daisy - My doc suggested that I give my lo a spoon to hold onto and play with while I am feeding him.  Kind of acts as a distraction or something like that, but it worked.  He stopped trying to grab my spoon while I was feeding him.  could work.

I have to go, we are having company tonight and I think they are going to be here any minutes....damned friends, don't they know that I just want to have a cup of tea and put on my pajamas?

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 11, 2006, 23:05:02 pm
Judy, you're funny.   Glad the mtg w/ your boss went well
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 12, 2006, 00:59:08 am
Jennifer< can you believe the weather?  It's suppose to be 69 degrees here on Sunday!  I just can't believe it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 12, 2006, 02:07:48 am
I know - we were out this evening after sunset and it wasn't cold - AMAZING!

And it's just suppose to be warmer.......what happened to winter?

I Know.....it'll show up in March and April.....we have a better chance for a white Easter then a white Christmas around here!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 12, 2006, 12:16:47 pm
Don't you think our LO are just at a really cute age!!?? Tom has a baby yogert at  tea time everyday, which he loves!! Watching him eat yogerts made me want some, so i bought some cheep ones for me and DH. Well last night we decided to have our yogerts when tom had finished his. As soon as we took the lids off, ds litle face lit up.... you should have seen the indignatin when me and DH started eating them... i didn't know whether to laugh or cry!!! :lol:

Well i best go as have tons to do, although i have to stop rushing around... as soon as i start rushing and stressing about getting houseweork done tom crys... the moment i relax and have time to play with him he starts playing quite happily on his own (never mind... at least it gives me a chance to check my emails!! :wink: )
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 12, 2006, 12:44:27 pm
OMG, Santiago and I have had a horrible time since yesterday afternoon!  I think he has 3 other teeth coming in at the same time and he's not taking it in stride like his first one.  But I'm rather confused because he nursing well, playing well but he's more touchy.  He usually never cries, only in extreme situations.  But now, when I sit him on the floor he cries for a minute then stops, when I pick him up he cries etc.  I also noticed that his cheek by his ear is sore....buuuuuut he doesn't have a fever.  So is the pain from the teething radiating up to his ears? on BOTH sides?  It breaks my heart to see him like this, he' such a happy baby....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 14:01:51 pm
Rebeca, hugs to you!  Teething makes me feel so helpless.  There's nothing to do except rub teething gel on their gums and say a prayer that it works.

I agree that this is a cute age.  Last night when my hubby got home, Luke lit up like a Christmas Tree.  He was so excited and laughed and laughed.  I was like "Where have YOU been all day long?"  But, it was short-lived.  The fussiness started again.  In fact, dh went out to dinner with a friend and I almost called him to come home b/c Luke was screaming uncontrollably.  I don't know if it's his ears, the rash, or the tooth that's trying to come in. 

BJ, how's Cait?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 12, 2006, 14:15:54 pm
{{{{hugs}}}}} Rebeca, this age can be the most fun and the frustrating.  I hate to mention this, but could it also be a bit of "seperation anxiety" mixed into the whole ordeal?  Cait has it REALLY bad.  We went out to a local pizza place with the rest of our squad and one of my g/f picked Cait up and you should have seen the look on her face!!!  OMG, you would have thought I just gave her up for adoption!!!  She was not happy and I finally had to take her back and put her back in the stroller.  Of course, I do have to qualify that with....when I got home from work yesterday, my MIL said "the kids have been great, but Cait hasn't had a nap since 12" :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :evil:  :evil:

So I tried to put her down.  No go.  Waited a bit, gave her a bottle, put her down.  No go.  Friend called, I packed us all up we head out, eat, play games, walk over to Target do some shopping, she falls asleep, FINALLY.  Get home, put her in bed and it takes about 30 minutes and finally flipping her to her stomach before she goes to sleep.  Right as DH pulls into the garage.  Poor DH. :cry:   So I guess to answer your question, Amy, Cait is back to her old self with the SA mixed in.  Oh this does not bode well for the party Saturday.  Everyone is going to want to hold her...... :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 12, 2006, 14:29:10 pm
Are they ever at a cute age!  I am loving it.  They are so interactive and independent right now.  Next stop... crawling.... no thanks.

So giving him the spoon to feed himself worked the first two times, but today on barley, he did not go for it.  Just made a mess, but I guess I just need to be patient.

Do any of you do a webpage where you keep photos or a blog?  I don't want to annoy everyone with a million photos, but I always love pics of your cuties and I also wonder what you mamas look like.  I have msn pages, so if anyone is interested, just let me know and I'll pm you the address, if anyone else has a page, etc, please let me know.  Either post it or pm me, I'd love to see your pics.

Oh, one more thing.  So I think I have found a trick to help owen get to sleep.  He loves sucking on material....  so what I do now is take a receiving blanket and make it long and skinny, I tuck one end under him and leave a little bit near his mouth.  Just enough for him to suck, not enough for him to cover his face (and annoy himself).  Cross your fingers but it seems to be working.  Plus the 10pm bedtime has been helping too.

All the snow is gone here today....  can you imagine no snow in atlantic canada in the middle of january?

Give a pec to all your little ones for me.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 12, 2006, 14:58:05 pm
Thanks for the support.  I tried Baby Oragel but it also numbed his lips and tongue and he REALLY didn'l like that.  So I have put his teething toys in the fridge and got some kind of success.

You know, bj? Now that I think about it, it may be separation anxiety.... I've been recapping and it seems that if he's not in my arms he's not happy.  So I guess my little man needs a little extra TLC.  And thank god I love giving it to him.  That reminds me, you know what dh told me the other day? " You hug and kiss the baby more in one day than me in a whole week"   :shock:  I was floored!  I felt so bad for him!   :cry: So I've been dishing out lots of love to my 2 men this week...
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 12, 2006, 15:09:05 pm
Yeah Jodie - and whoever else would like to see lots more pictures of my son - I do have a website for him -
 http://www.babyhomepages.net/caeden
I am going to try and update it today.......

Jodie - pm me yourr site - I would love to see it!

This is a cute age....love the smiles and how he just loves to watch and absorb everything! My best friend - who has a 2 year old - told me that she always would say "oh, this is the best stage" and not want to move from it then he would go onto the next one and she would think, "Nope, this is the best one" - she said it never grows old watching him learn and grow - and each stage is the best one!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 12, 2006, 15:09:32 pm
We had our 6mn check up yesturday. Jency got his shots.  It was so funny. We were in the office last week and when the doctor came in and underessed him and so on he was fine.  Then yesturday every time I laid him on the table he started shaking and getting stiff and then start crying.  The only thing that made him stop was to pick him up.
the doctor said it looks like his fang teeth are coming in and his other top ones are right behind them.  Nothing on the bottom.  I got my fang ones first too.
He has been going down to bed great!  I even have to leave the room.  I lay him down and he starts talking to him self and then goes to sleep.  Jodie, Jency has a thermal blanket that he likes to put his thumb in and then suck his thumb.  I think the texture helps his teething. He was only eating once at night, 1:30am, over new years and the week after.  Then last week he was eating at 12 and 4 again.  But only waking those two times.
But monday night he woke around 9:30 (he goes down at 8:00) and I got him to go to sleep quickly (gave him a drink of water and he was down).  Then he woke at 12:00 and I fed him then he woke at 2:45 screaming.  We kept trying to but him back to sleep but he kept going in and out.  Finally at 4am I fed him.  He slept until 7:30am!
Then Tuesday night he went down great and woke at 11:15 screaming.  We are trying to get him to go longer with out eating but it hadn't even been 4 hours so I didn't feed him.  But he would calm down so we would put him back in bed and then he would do the little winey thing (trying to get to sleep) then be quite and still and then start up again.  This lasted until 12:15am when I finally fed him because it had been 4 hours.  Then he slept the rest of the night to 7:30am!
Then yesturday we had a busy day and went tothe doctor for his shots.  Last night he WOULD NOT go down he just kept screaming and I finally had to rock him to sleep.  Then he woke at 11:30 screaming so I fed him.  I wasn't going to feed him the rest of the night since the night before he went from 12-7:30 but then he woke at 1:30 and we put him back to sleep and then again at 2:30 and then again at 3:30 so I fed him!  Now it's 8am and he's still asleep.
What is going on?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 12, 2006, 15:11:41 pm
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
I have to admit.....I go Cait first before anyone in the house when I first get home!!!!!!   LOL, the poor males in my house....of course, us girls have to stick together!!!!!!   LOL

Here is a pic of what I found yesterday morning as I went to get Cait up for the day.  Dont' pay any attention to the boy jammies she has on...that is a story I haven't told you guys yet.  :roll:  :lol:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 12, 2006, 15:12:24 pm
Oh ya, Jency screams when ever I put night time orajel on his gums at night.  Does anyone elses baby do this?  He doesn't mind the day time stuff when I put it on during the day.  But at night he screams bloody murder.  I also can't get much on his gums because he won't open his mouth so more gets on his lips!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 15:17:07 pm
I am in agreement that the separation anxiety has started.  It's bad over here, but I can't tell yet if it's worse b/c he doesn't feel good of if this is the start of a long few months  :shock:

For all you wondering what this mama looks like, here I am.  This picture was taken the day before Thanksgiving.  Luke was so funny.  I don't have any good professional portraits of him yet b/c I wanted to wait until he could at least sit up for a bit.

Anyway....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 15:24:20 pm
BJ, how did Ry get in there?  That is hilarious.

The secret with the orajel is to just put a teeny bit on his gums only and not let it get on his lips.  Hard to do, but that's what I have had to do.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 12, 2006, 16:01:17 pm
Amy- that is a great picture of the two of you! Jake has the same outfit and here is a picture of us.

I wish I could give advice on the orajel.... but we have absolutely no signs of teething yet. He'll be seven months on Monday and he is still the toothless wonder :) That's okay because he hasn't felt the pain yet and maybe since he is getting older and becoming a big strong boy  :wink: he'll be able to take the pain better! Atleast that is what I hope....

Any babies crawl yet? Jake finally got on his knees the last few days but only managed to go backwards... but he is trying!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 12, 2006, 16:03:27 pm
I don't know why my picture's blurry... I just starting using Photoshop and maybe I don't quite have it figured out yet :)

For those of you who have websites with pictures of your little one... how do you get one started?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 16:04:44 pm
He's got some hair!  Luke will be bald until he's 10 probably  :wink: My cousin's little girl was born in April and she's still the toothless wonder. 

OMG, I just had to put Luke in the bathtub.  He had poop up to the back of his head, in his hair, on his hands....everywhere.  Kinda hard to clean your kid up while you're gagging.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 12, 2006, 16:15:02 pm
Here's my site.  The pics of family, etc, but you will see the little gaffer in most of them.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/morrisseymour/

Jennifer:  If you have a hotmail account or use msn messenger it's really easy to make a webpage to post pics, etc.  You just go to "my msn" and it's very basic... trust me, i'm not so good with the ol' pc.

Loving the pics so far!!!

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 16:20:36 pm
Jodie, where was all that snow?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 12, 2006, 16:29:26 pm
Jency's is http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/d/dreamranchbaby
Password is: PJDH

If you go to http://www.babiesonline.com you can make your own and they walk you through it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 12, 2006, 16:48:05 pm
My website has pic of my wedding and ds, enjoy!!!

http://homepage.mac.com/becky_san/
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 12, 2006, 17:10:25 pm
Jennifer, I love the watch me grow picture on your page!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: daisymelan on January 12, 2006, 17:15:55 pm
Amy:  All the snow is in Quebec City.  It is a beautiful beautiful city.  We had snow here until today.  Can't say I'm sad about it, but we'll likely pay next month.

Adria: can't get into your website.  I think we need your email address.

Jodie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 12, 2006, 18:41:30 pm
You put in the pass word and then you put your own e-mail address in.

Jennifer:  It's SNOWING!!!  It's suppose to snow today and then again next week but the weekend is suppose to be like 70 degrees!

Jency has started doing the funnies thing.  When you smiles he scrunches up his nose.  He loves to follow the vacuum cleaner around, he loves pens and cords :shock: .  He is so strong that when he was in the bathroom crawling around last night he picked up my scale and then when I picked him up he dropped it and broke it!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 19:47:00 pm
We just got back from the pediatrician...I swear it seems like I post that every other day  :wink:

Luke's ears are FINALLY showing some improvement.  The rash is still pretty bad, but the doc seems to think that it will be gone in five days or so.  By the the Rocephin (sp) shot should be out of his system.  Even though this was his first ear infection, because he didn't tolerate it well and it took forever to clear up, we will have to put tubes in immediately if he gets another ear infection in the next six weeks  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 12, 2006, 19:47:12 pm
Hi all - I love seeing all the photos too. Thanks for sharing your pages. I have created a page through Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/duncanx3

We are losing our snow like crazy. Today is the first sunny day I can remember in soooo long and it has been great. I went for a walk with Abbi after lunch and when she gets up from her nap I plan to do it again.  I have to soak up the sun and warmer temperatures when I can. I know it won't last but that's okay because I hope to go skiing next weekend.

On another note, I have a developmental question.  My LO has been sitting really well on her own since she was about 4.5 or 5 months. She show no interest in lying down anymore and therefore could care less about rolling over.  She rolled over once but that was because she was on a pillow and she rolled off of the pillow.  Should I be concerned or do you think they all develop differently and that she may never really roll over.  Just a question.  We put her on her tummy when possible and she pushes herself backwards but unless we put our hands behind her feet to push, she hasn't figured out how to go forward. Not too concerned about this.

Looking forward to more photos.
Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 12, 2006, 19:50:04 pm
All babies develop differently.  Luke doesn't quite have the hang of sitting up, but he rolls around like a log.  He's up on all fours and rocking back and forth like he really wants to crawl, but to get anywhere he has to roll.  It's funny.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 12, 2006, 20:13:16 pm
Holy cow!  You ladies have been busy little typers!  :)  I posted on Tuesday night and we were only on page 101! 

amy- I am so glad to hear that Luke is doing a little better.  I can't imagine what it must be like for you right now.  I wish I could hug all the sickness out of Luke's cute little face.  He is simply adorable!  I love the pic of the 2 of you!  :)  I sent my application to Sylvan last night so hopefully I will hear back soon.  Cross your fingers that it pays well enough for us both to be SAHM'S!  How awesome would that be?!!!

Brock gets up on all fours and rocks.  But he seems to prefer the military tummy scoot over being on all fours.  We have already had to safety proof our whole house because he gets around so quickly that way now.  He has also just started to pull himself up onto things and walk around them.  This is why I had to take everything off our coffee table  :)  Why do kids love remotes and phones so much?!!  :)

But, I completely agree with Amy.  All kids develop at different rates.  Brock never really rolls over.  He has a few times but he just isn't interested in it.  He would rather tummy scoot  :)

I love all the pics of everyone's lo's!  SO CUTE!!!  I wish I was more computer "savy"  I am so bad at figuring them out.  hence why I don't have a picture of Brock on my posts.  I can't firgure out how to get one on there.  :(

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 12, 2006, 22:26:47 pm
Leslie,

Cait is literally a speed bump on the carpet.  She has NO desire to move, and doesnt' even attempt it.  If she doesn't start doing something soon, I am going to ask at her next check up in march.  Actually, we have a checkup next week on her chest and ears, I may ask then.  Getting  a little concerned.  :roll:

b
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 00:27:03 am
Don't be too concerned BJ.  She'll start getting around when she wants to.  Maybe she'll be one of those that just gets up and starts walking  :wink:

My SIL has a fabulous idea.  She wants to invent something that goes in the duct work of your AC/Heating system with a button near your thermostat that you can push to dispense air neutralizer when the house smells like poop/puke.  I think she'd make a million.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 13, 2006, 02:10:41 am
Gee thanks Amy.... :roll: As if I didnt' have enough to worry about!!  LOL  I would probably just faint dead away if I walked in the room and found her standing up.  So glad tomorrow is Friday.  Of course, this week went fast.  And I get 4 whole days off with Dh.  Monday is a holiday and the university is closed.  woohoo!!!!  And I get to order three pieces of furniture on Tuesday!!  So excited.

Oh and CUTE pic, Amy.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 02:13:23 am
Aw, thanks.

I will have been off for a whole week when I go back on Tuesday.  I swear that I am more tired from being home than I am when I am working.  I guess it's the pooper patrol that wipes you out.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 13, 2006, 02:26:00 am
I can take the poop patrol....it is lugging around a 20 lb dead weight on my hip because If  I put her down, she starts to cry that is wearing ME out!!!! :roll:   Maybe it would be better for her to just up and walk, then she could at least FOLLOW me everywhere.

Chelsea, I read your other post about Aiden....have you figured anything out yet?  I am so sorry he is feeling rough....been there, done that.  It's not all that fun.  {{{{{{get well soon, Aiden}}}}}}}

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 13, 2006, 03:14:54 am
Oh my gosh. I have been really busy with Aiden I guess because I missed like 6 pages! I am about to pass out but I to check in and see how all our sick babies are doing :cry:  :wink: .

Aiden had no fever today yeah! But he wouldn't eat. And this kid LOVES to eat I mean LOVES it. If I let him he would eat all day. But I he refused breast,bottle,syringe, sippy cup. I finially got him to eat before he went to sleep but I still don't know what is wrong. He went to sleep good for the first time in 3 days. He really wasn't unhappy, he had a 3 hour nap and woke up happy. Just wanted to play. I hope it was just an off day or something.

Glad everyone else's babies are getting better.  You guys are really scaring me with the SA. Aiden is super sensitve and super clingy. Just recently he started playing by himself a lot. I have gotten kind of used to that. Hope everything gets better. I have more to say but I hear a certain someone waking up. Looks like another long night....
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 13, 2006, 04:05:11 am
Brock has had diarrhea for 3 days now.  He also refused his lunch solids for the last 2 days.  He gets 8 oz. of formula at night before bed and has been stopping at 6 oz.  He LOVES to eat and drink and usually gets VERY upset when the food/bottle is empty.  Last night he woke up at 11:30 and was unconsolable until 1:30 when he finally collapsed.  :(

He had his vomitting day but then there was about 28 hours of nothing and he was fine and normal and then this behavior started up.  Thats why I don't think his current behavior is related to the vomitting day.

Any suggestions?  I will take ANY and ALL!!  I have heard that when they are teething this kind of behavior can happen...anyone else heard or experienced that?

Thanks!
-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 13, 2006, 06:18:09 am
wow!!  my computer was in getting fixed since just after christmas and had over 25 pages to read to get caught up!!!!  so sorry to hear about all the lo's being so sick   :(   just breaks your heart.

christine - don't know if u still have the night pooping problem but i would suggest try something like rice cereal or bananas for supper..should hold lo over until the morning

alecks has been using a very high octave for the past few months and just over the last 3 or 4 weeks found a very low...almost possessed sounding pitch  :twisted:  that makes her cough..i know when i tried to do it - it hurt my throat...and it's not so cute for a little girl to make this noise - anyone else hearing this?

orajel - try putting it on a q tip and then putting it on lo's gums - i used to have a huge problem getting it everywhere but the gums and this seems to help a lot.

is anyone still swaddling their lo's??  unfortunately i HAVE ( or so it seems) to or else my spirited lo would keep herself up forever...anyone have any suggestions besides swaddling or 'mittens'..they don't work

alecks plays shy around SOME people only some of the time tho.  she always seems to play shy with my dad and stepmom for whatever reason.    she has really taken a liking to men..smiles and does the low voice thing to get their attention...maybe that's it..maybe she's copying their voices??

i have read somewhere on this site that lanolin works for rashy bums.  although luke's bum may have been well beyond that..poor guy  :?

bj - don't feel bad about your tantrum - i have had the occasional few in the past few weeks myself.  was giving lo baby advil as per dr's orders for teething b/c it works better she said.  just yesterday figured out that was the reason why dd was getting up 10-20 times a night screaming bloody murder..i felt i was getting no support from dh or my mom..dh's suggestion was to stick a boob in her mouth everytime she cried :x all i wanted to do was come onto bw to see what REAL advice i could be given when eureka! i was reading a parenting magazine yesterday and it said that advil causes upset stomachs and for my little refluxer proved to be way to much for her to handle.  had a better night last night and tonight is going GREAT...no more mommy tantrums i promise!

on the pedialite - don't know what kind of electrolites they put in that stuff but it's something else.  when alecksandria was constantly vomitting and lifeless i gave her a few ounces of that stuff and she slowly started kicking her legs and suddenly she had life again!  stuff is wonderous!!

anyway so sorry for the long post...haven't been around just trying to catch up on everyone and my own questions!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 13, 2006, 06:19:10 am
i was trying to post a pic but just kept saying error..anyone have any ideas on how to fix it??
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 13, 2006, 12:22:54 pm
Regarding the different pitches...Abbi has been trying out all different sounds as well. I know what you mean about high and low pitches.  I guess they have to practice every kind of pitch to see what gets attention and stuff.

Thanks for posting thoughts on development issues. I agree, they all develop at different rates and she will be on the move soon enough.

Christine - If your LO is still throwing up today I would visit the doctor. I think that is more than teething.  Could your LO have the flu?  Could it be a new food? 

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 13, 2006, 13:59:41 pm
Ooooh, my heart goes out to Brock!  Poor little guy, I get so upset when I see an out of sorts baby...  I wish I could give you advice, but it seems to me that you have explored your option that I would have.   :?


I'm on my way out the door to the doc's office that Santiago gets a shot today and I'm going to ask her about the pain on his cheek and about his food!!! She has me restricted on only fruits and I KNOW he's ready for other stuff.  Not even cereal! Even though about twice a week I give him a little, as a treat.

We went to the shooting of the commercial last night.....it was horrible for me :cry:.  I'll write all about it this afternoon when I get back.

Love you guys
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 14:05:59 pm
Brock and Aiden might both have ear infections.  I would ask your pediatrician.  Luke was still happy-go-lucky and the only reason we had any clue that he was out of sorts was that he didn't want his bottles and he had a fever.  A lot of people say to watch for pulling of the ears, but Luke never did this and he had one mother of an ear infection.

My nephew is barfing and throwing up constantly...they are going to have to go to the doc today b/c we think the little man is dehydrated.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ~Jency's*Momma~ on January 13, 2006, 15:36:47 pm
Jency was eating 2oz of a fruit cereal mix fir breakfast then he would have 2oz of veggies at lunch and then 2oz veggies and 2oz of fruit for dinner, plus bf 4 times a day and once at night.

But all of a sudden he started eating 2 times at night. Then he stopped wanting to eat breakfast or lunch. Last night I only fed him once and he still refused to eat breakfast.

He gets up at 7:30am and I've always bf him and then fed breakfast at 8:30am. This hasn't changed. Same for lunch. He wakes around 11:00 and I BF him at 11:30 and then feed solids anywhere from 12:00-12:30. Then he goes back down for nap around 1:00/1:30. Then he wakes 2:30/3:00 and I bf him at 3:30 and he gets those fruit and veggie puffs (only a couple) Then he sometimes takes a cat nap and then has dinner at 5:30ish then bf at 7:30ish.

Can anyone tell me why he has been doing this? Is there anything I can be doing differently? should I go ahead and feed him solids before bfing? Should I feed him only solids he likes for awhile.
He loves banana's and sweet potatos.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 15:40:51 pm
The thing I figured out was that once I had things figured out, they would change.  We normally try to space bottles and solids an hour apart.  Most times the bottle will come first, but the last bottle before he goes to bed comes right at bedtime.  Here's his ideal schedule...

6:30 - Wake and Bottle
8:30ish - Cereal and fruit
9:00 - nap
10:30 - bottle
12:00 - veggies
12:30 or 1 - nap
2:30 - bottle
4:00-cat nap
5:00 or 5:30- veggies and fruit
bath, bottle and in bed by 6:30

I would keep offering a variety of foods.  He might find that he does like something more.  Especially if you tweak his schedule.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 13, 2006, 16:23:37 pm
Well Aiden didn't do too bad last night. He woke up 2x to eat but since he didn't eat all day that was good I guess. He took both breasts well this morning but refused his solids. So I will see what he does when he wakes up from his nap.

I guess I should just take him to the doctors. I have been in their twice already and he has always been fine. They checked out his ears and everything. But I guess it won't hurt. He still doesn't have a fever-yeah!  But I noticed his nose has been a bit stuffy since last night. Hmmmm

We need to start a new thread called Our Poor Sick Babies.

Hope everyone gets better soon.

I almost forgot I was going to ask what everyones lo are eating. My docter said to just stick with fruits and veggies and cereal, just start moving to the chunkier versions. Well last time I asked them advice they told me not to give him fruits because he wouldn't like his veggies then. So I am a bit of a rebel to them. But they said just the basic ones, ie. sweet potatoes, peas, applesauce...Not anything like brocolli or avacado. But I think that is fine. Anyways just curious to see what everyone is doing. Pediatritions don't seem to agree on anything when it comes to food.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 13, 2006, 16:39:46 pm
Well we just got back from the doc's office.......

It was a bitter-sweet appointment.  Good things are that Santiago doesn't have an ear infection and she thinks he may have bumped his cheek while trying to learn how to crawl.  She also thinks it not his teeth because his gums aren't swollen, so it seems the other teeth aren't coming in just yet.  Buuuuuuuut, he barely gained any weight in the past 1 1/2 months  :( only 300 grams  :(.  So I have to feed him cereal twice a day, soup for lunch, fruits in the afternoon and formula at night!  I really thought I was going to be able to pull off not giving him formula ever.  I really really wanted for him to go from the breast to the cup.   :cry:  I really can't express my feelings, such a sense of defeat and loss.  I know it's only one bottle and he'll still be a mostly bfed baby, but I wanted to avoid formula at all costs (for personal reasons).  And to hear the doc be SO concerned with his poor weight gain made me feel like I'm not providing him with the best care.  In fact, she's so concerned that she says if he's not on track by next month she wants to do urine and blood tests to see if it's more serious than she thought! OMG!!!!!  I feel like the worst mommy ever!  He's just so happy and social and hitting his milestones on time (actually a bit early) I thought everything was going well.

I'm so upset, and yesterday's photoshoot for the commercial was so awful too.  They had him awake and trying to make him smile until 12 at night!  Damn it! If only I had known it was going to be so late prior to the commercial I would have NEVER agreed to it! And they wouldn't let me get close to him because he would cry harder! Dh had no idea what to do both the baby and I were crying our eyes out.

I really hope dh gives me a bit of TLC this weekend, I really need it   :cry:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 16:46:31 pm
Hugs to you Rebeca!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 13, 2006, 17:05:46 pm
sorry for u and lo rebecaq!  sounds awful what lo had to go through... :?

just wondering if anyone has had any troubles with baths?  alecks LOVED her baths until suddenly last week.  she gets excited when she hears the bath running still but then once she's in for just a couple minutes she starts bawling and screaming...is it a developmental thing?  nothing 'traumatic' has ever happened concerning her bath - i think we both always looked forward to it, which is why i find it so strange that she suddenly has a great dislike for them.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 13, 2006, 17:08:31 pm
Rebeca!!!!  How awful!!!  Poor Santiago, how is he doing from now?  Did he at least sleep late?   And as for the formula situation...do not be hard on yourself!!!  You have given him 6 WHOLE months of breastmilk, that is 6 months more then I gave my kids!!!  You have accomplished quite a thing.  And even though I am a "formula mom" (also for personal reasons), I would never try to convince you that it was best for your baby.  But I promise it wont' hurt him.  :)   Breast feeding was NEVER my thing...it was almost as though, God gave me boobs, but never for THAT purpose!!!  LOL, it just never interested me.  And if ppl want to call me a bad mother because of it, then let them, but BOTH of my children have been in the 90th-100th percentile for EVERYTHING possible at the dr office.

Chelsea, Cait is eating stage 2 everything. Fruit, veggies, meat with veggies and cereal.   And, hehehehehe, I think I am going to buy her the "Gerber Puffs" this weekend at the grocery store.  :D   I want to see how she will do with a new finger food.  I never did get the chance to mash up the avacado, but she has had real banana (as if the jar food isnt' real  :roll: ) and seemed to like that.  Do you have (or anyone else for that matter) one of those mesh bag eating thingy?  It is where you put the chunkier foods in it and they chew on it, but dont' actually get any food till it can fit through the holes?

Tee, glad you found the article on the Advil.  We can't give Ryan Motrin...makes him break out, so we aren't trying it with Cait either.

Speaking of breaking out, Amy, how is Spot?  :wink:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 13, 2006, 17:29:20 pm
Amy - love the picture - you both look great!

Adria - can't get into the website, tried lower and upper case for the password and used my email address and told me it was wrong.......

Jodie - love the website and pictures - how fun!

Becky - Wedding pictures are great - you got some good pictures and Santiago is a cute little boy too!

Thanks all for sharing the pictures! I need to go back a couple pages and make sure I didn't miss any.

I just updated our site this morning with more pictures - http://www.babyhomepages.net/caeden

We are eating well - potatoes, sweet potatoes, acorn squash, avacado, banana, applesauce and pears. We have also tried the Gerber puffs and he loves playing with them, rarely gets them into the mouth, but does good with them if I put one in there. We have done cherry and sweet potato so far. Also, got something called Baby Mum-Mum's at Vitamin Cottage, they are rice rusks and he likes those too.

Okay - I have to stop playing and pay bills and clean house!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 18:07:35 pm
Thanks Jennifer

Luke is on stage 2 foods, but he absolutely did NOT like the meat when I tried to introduce it.  His face completely turned inside out, so I left that alone for a while.  Maybe I will try mixing one of the stage 1 meats with some stage 2 sweet potatoes or applesauce and see how that goes, but I won't hold my breath.  Tell me about the veggie puffs.  I don't know about those.  Is he too young?  He doesn't even have any top teeth to help gnaw them down.  I am guessing that they pretty much dissolve, right?

BJ, spot is doing much better, thank you.   :lol: His rash is still there but doesn't look nearly as painful as it did. 

One thing that I am about to shoot myself for is not giving him his Axid for four days.  I wanted to see how he would do off of it, esp since he was taking so many other meds.  He spit up the same without it as he did with it.  Well, I guess after four days it's totally out of his system because everything that has gone in his mouth today has come right back out on me.  It's not vomiting, it's the reflux.  AND IT GROSSES ME OUT!  I STINK!  But, I just keep changing my shirt b/c I only want to take one shower today.  I am going to a concert tonight (The Texas A&M Singing Cadets in case anyone cares  :wink: ) and I only want to get ready one time today.  Soooooooooo, I am still in my jammies, but I am on my fourth shirt.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 13, 2006, 18:40:07 pm
The have the Cadets from TAMU's El Paso campus?  Hhmmmm...didnt' know that.  Sorry you are having to change shirts a million times, but it does beat smelling like puke all day.  Of course, if you don't want another anytime soon...just keep one of those on, and DH will stay away.  :wink:
The puffs dissolve in their mouths, they are in the baby section of walmart and target.  Yellow canister kinda shaped like an hour glass.  I am really excited.

Anyway, I have an interview for a student worker in about 20 minutes, so I guess I better prep for that.  :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 19:29:55 pm
No, the Singing Cadets from TAMU in College Station.    David Kipp, their director, is also the director of the Reveliers.  I was in the Reveliers when I was in college.  Anyway, David married my husband and me.  Love the Singing Cadets.

Sorry everyone else if you don't know what I am talking about
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 13, 2006, 19:40:53 pm
Okay I don't have a lot of time but I wanted to say Rebeca you are not a bad mommy. Your Doctor is a bad doctor for making you feel like that. IMHO I think you should consider switching doctors. She automatically blamed it seems like. What percentile is he for weight? Did he drop a percentile. Aiden didn't gain much for a few months but he is healthy and happy and is in a helathy percentile. Why does she think it is your milk? Maybe just getting a second opinion. And wasn't this the docter that resricted you to only fruits until now? And now she wants you to bombard him with all this food?  What does he weight?

When Aiden was 4 days old he had jaundice. When we found out I started to cry because I was so scared for my poor baby. The docter looks at me and said," Well don't get your feelings hurt. It isn't my job to protect your feelings , it is my job to protect your baby." I should have beat her. Then she said I couldn't make enough milk to feed him and we needed to supplement. After 3 days and many force feedings later. He gained a pound over the weekend and stopped taking the breast. I called and she told me too bad. So I stopped giving him formula and breast feed him when he was hungry and what do you know I haven't killed him yet.

I got to go tend to Aiden but I just wanted to say that.  Obiviously I am not a doctor but I think your doctor should be a bit more supportive fro lack of a better word.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 19:44:29 pm
Rebeca, I just switched pediatricians because I felt like mine never listened to me nor did he ever care what I had to say.  Moving to another doctor was the best thing I have ever done.  I love my new pediatrician.  I have to second the opinion that you should look into another.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 13, 2006, 20:38:12 pm
I guess I should have known better than to assume that the circle of germs wouldn't make it to me  :(  Last night at around 11:00 I started vomiting and it pretty much didn't stop until 10:00 this morning.  getting on this computer is the first time Ive left the bed  :(  I hate throwing up more than anything else!  I will take a month long battle with diarrhea before throwing up even once.

Brock still has diarrhea.  I am going to call the doc later, (after I get rid of this harsh acid like burning in my throat) to set up an appointment.  Thanks for all the advice.

One good thing did happen because of my sickness, though.  My husband had to get up and pat/shoosh Brock twice last night AND he had to get up with him at 5:00 this morning to get him ready for the day.  It was so interesting to actually seeing dh have to take full responsibility for once. He looked like a walking zombie when he left this morning, and I felt like screaming, "see! do you see now why I am always so tired?!"

As far as foods, Brock is also on all stage 2 foods.  But we haven't given him any meats yet.  Just fruits and veggies.  He is also still eating rice cereal.  I figured I would finish the box and then just keep him on straight fruits and veggies.

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 21:10:31 pm
Christine, why do you want to stop the cereal?  Just wondering b/c it's on my grocery list for this weekend.

I am so sorry you are sick.  I would rather have the month long diarrhea as well.  Bless your heart!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 21:10:41 pm
Christine, why do you want to stop the cereal?  Just wondering b/c it's on my grocery list for this weekend.

I am so sorry you are sick.  I would rather have the month long diarrhea as well.  Bless your heart!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 21:10:59 pm
Christine, why do you want to stop the cereal?  Just wondering b/c it's on my grocery list for this weekend.

I am so sorry you are sick.  I would rather have the month long diarrhea as well.  Bless your heart!  Drink some Sprite and feel better soon!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: CaedensMama on January 13, 2006, 21:14:20 pm
I too am keeping Caeden on cereal, usually just for breakfast mixed with fruit for awhile. I have mixed rice with oatmeal to give some variety and he seems to like the oatmeal better.

Hope you are feeling better Christine!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 21:15:00 pm
Ok, not sure why my post posted three times.  I guess I REALLY want you to feel better  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 13, 2006, 21:18:58 pm
Christine!!!  Poor MOMMY!!!  Maybe we can just all get this and be done with it for the rest of the year.  It's probably because none of us have experienced a "winter" yet, so these stupid germs just keep growing and mutating in all of this warm weather.  We need a good freeze to kill them off...you know, like fleas.   :lol:

I hope you feel better soon.  :D

Okay, I am confused.....so all of you stage 2 moms.....you are not feeding your lo meat mixed with veggies?  Like last night Cait had Chicken with broccoli (ugh, it stunk!!!), and she has ham with apples, and turkey with sweet potatoes.  It is all mixed together in one jar.  I have 4 rows in my cabinet.  Fruits, Vegs, Meats and cereal.  And when I say meat, I mean meat mixed with a veggie.  Poor kid gets lots of veggies, because dinner is usually a meat/veggie and then a side veggie.   :roll:

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 13, 2006, 21:39:31 pm
yeah the site is being wacko.....maybe it has caught our bug.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 13, 2006, 21:55:30 pm
Poor Poor BW site.  Feel better soon  :roll:  :roll:  :wink:

I mentioned to my hubby today that I'd like to try meats again.  He said that he thinks we should wait until the rash is all gone and Luke has recovered from this trauma.  Gosh, he's smart.

Well, Luke took a 30 minute nap from 12:30-1.  He usually takes his real nap at about 2.  So, at ten till, I put him in his bed.  He sang and talked for about 15 minutes.  Um, he's still asleep two hours later.  He was due for a bottle at 3:30.  I guess I will let him sleep.  If he's sleepin' this long, it must be for a reason.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 13, 2006, 22:53:20 pm
Chelsea, thanks so much for your support.  The doc we have now has been the ped for all the kids in our family and things have gone well with her so far.  I called her after reading your post and cleared up many things.  She apologized for making me feel like a bad mommy, she told me she was just concerned for Santiago and since she knows all of our family well she may have become a bit more emotional than with other patients.  She then went on to say she was proud of me for still bf and being so adimant (sp?) about it.  And she wants me to keep bf until his first year. Just to complement it at night with 6 oz of formula, so out of 40 oz he drinks 34 are still breast milk. His growth percentile stayed the same, the 65th %, but his weight one which had been the 65th % also dropped radically to the 20th%.  About only giving him fruits she said she wanted to introduce him slowly to solids because all of my dh's family has insulin problems, so the veggies he would start on are complex carbs and create more insulin than fruits.

I was considering going to my lc who is also a ped, but she is a bit extremist and makes rather risky choices for babies for my personal comfort.  So I'll stay with my regular ped for now and see what happens next month at ds's follow up appointment.  I'm still going to do some things my way, like making his cereal with breast milk instead of formula and cook all his food ( soup, compotes, veggies etc ) myself in the healthiest way possible rather than the store bought kinds ( for fruity, nature-freak, personal reasons ).

I really appreciate everyone's support, it's been a hard hard day for me and was actually teary eyed when trying to pick out a formula for him.  If it wouldn't have been for you guys I would have been much worse.

***KISSES***
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 13, 2006, 23:53:05 pm
Rebeca,

I am so glad that you spoke with your Ped. because I was feeling really bad for you too. I know that I had a similar experience at about 7 weeks with my DD and I was soooo  upset. Me being upset in turn upset my DD who was an angel baby that turned into a very grumpy baby for a weekend. After discussions with my DH, we decided to go back to what seemed to be working so well before. In the long run she has been happier for it.

I hope that you and Santiago can work this out and that you don't have to give up bf.  My DD quit BF around 5.5 months which was WAY sooner than I wanted or expected. I was VERY emotional at the beginning but am happy that she seems okay.

On another note, I don't know what got into her today....she has not napped at all! She had about 1/2 hour this morning, 40 min this afternoon and then I got her to nap for about 1hr  late this afternoon. Not normal at all. Guess you just roll with it though right?

Hugs to everyone out there. Am feeling kind of down tonight and hope you are all hanging in there.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 14, 2006, 01:01:52 am
amy- I guess I just figured that it is about time for Brock to move forward in his eating.  If we get him just on baby food, then it might make the transition to more solid like food easier.  But to be perfectly honest, I don't really know why.  It was just one of those mom instinct things that I had.  I have a niece and a nephew that are both 9 months and they stopped the rice cereal at about 7 months.  They are now both eating things like cheerios and crackers.

However, I could be all wrong.  It was just my little mind thinking it might be time to stop the rice cereal.

thanks to everyone for all the well wishes  :)
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 14, 2006, 02:29:10 am
On the food questions, I started him with the cereals then one veggie at a time.  I introduced pears as the first fruit about a week ago.  According to the literature I got from Quebec where he was born, we should be introducing cereals first, then 2 weeks later veggies, 2 weeks after that fruit then 2 weeks after that, if things are going well we can start adding meat.  This is all based on introducing solids at 6 months.  There is the standard wait of 4 to 5 days before introducing a new food.

I don't have a break between his bottle and his solid foods though.  We do cereal with pears in the morning, then his bottle.  For lunch, it's two different veggies followed by his bottle, then at teatime, it's cereal with fruit again and another bottle.  He has one more bottle before his bath, then another one for his dreamfeed.  This has worked quite well for us. 

He is still consuming around 25 ozs of formula per day and has been increasing the amounts of solids daily.

This is what we've been doing.

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 14, 2006, 02:53:16 am
Now that I have finished reading all of the posts from today, I wanted to add that we are still doing both rice cereal and wheat cereals.  He doesn't like the rice cereal very much so I have to add the fruit to it, it's just really bland.  Have you guys tasted the stuff?!  I bought a box of barley cereal today and will introduce it later in the week. 

Rebeca - My heart goes out to you with your ped problems, but I am so glad to hear that you challenged her to explain herself to you and not just take what she said as "word from God".  I know that's a problem for so many of us, we just assume that because they are doctors that we should do everything they say, good for you for standing up for yourself.

Chelsea - I love the new picture of Aiden.  He's getting so big!

teezee - glad to see you back!  :)

My DH is out with the boys tonight, so It's just me, a cup of tea and surfing the net....Aahhhh, peace and quite.  He gets a night out, and tomorrow morning, I get to sleep in.....Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Cheers to all, Happy Friday!
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 14, 2006, 03:37:30 am
Thanks...he really looks so old to me now. He is more and more like a little man everyday, not just a baby KWIM.

Thanks for everyones food lists. We haev tried all the regular veggies and almost all the fruits.  So I was wondering if I should introduce soem diffrent veggies or fruits or meats. I think I will just take it easy (haha) I tend to get carried away. He is starting the stage 2, he doens't even like the stage one. i have to thickin it up with some cereal. And I alway mix his fruit or veggie with some cereal. It just ups the caloric intake. And it thickens it up. I was going to continue it until he started finger foods like cheerios or whatever.

Lesile alot of the babies have been refusing naps. Aiden did it for two days but he is back to normal now. i can't explain it but  it will get better.

Rebeca, I am so glad you got it worked out. I didn't mean to go on a rampage or anything  :oops: . But I just got a little mad. Doctors aren't alwasy right and I just wanted you to feel better and get the care you and your lo deserve. i am glad it is worked out. I give Aiden a bottle sometimes, if he is having a growth spurt or something and I don't have enought milk for him. I did cry the first couple times he took it.  :oops:  But it is the best thing for him. I am tired, good night ya'll
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 14, 2006, 23:53:45 pm
Well, all I can say is that you ladies are the absolute best!  Here's how our day went basically....

Santiago has happier and more playful than ever EXCEEEEEEPT when he saw the bottle.  He would try to do a backflip to get out of my arms, and he did the same with dh and my mom.  Kudos for my little man!  He just had this look of "Mommy, you traitor you!"  So what did I do? I said fine, you need more calories, great, I'll make you cereal with formula and your feeds with breastmilk.  I've been pumping about an hour after each feed to get things going even more than they already are.  He had yummy squash soup for lunch which he lapped up and his compote at tea time. 

I was thinking about the growth charts are based in formula babies and then I got to thinking. I have (as my signature says, 2 spirited babies rolled into one) whi naps 3 times a day, 2 of which are 1 1/2 - 2 hour naps, sleeps from 7 to 7, has hit every milestone on time or early... so hmmmmmmm, seems to me he's as healthy as they get.  So what if he's not chubby, his dad and I are both slim, so go figure, so is our baby! 

About dh, yeah! Shame on him! And he's been a booger today too! Sorry for the childish name calling, but it's what he deserves.  We went out in the afternoon for a walk in the park to talk about yesterday. So we sat on a bench and there was about 20 mins of silence before I decided to come back home.  I don't really know what to do with him.....


UUUUGH cr*ppy weekend
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 15, 2006, 00:32:49 am
I think there is a lot to be said for a mother's instinct and it sounds as if Santiago is a very happy little baby (except when trying to force feed him formula).  You can try to give him more calories and wait until his next appointment but I have a feeling it will all work itself out.

Sabine - sorry I wasn't more specific. The rash is under her chin (neck) in her folds of skin.  I washed it really really well in the bath tonight and am going to try and keep it dry. She does get a little bit of rash from teething under her bottom lip but I am not worried about that one.  The one on her neck has gotten bumby and looks sore.  I am sure if I give it some attention I can get it cleared up.  Thanks though.

Another quiet night at home. DH is working....I should be doing school work but this website is too addictive.  Good way to procrastinate.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 15, 2006, 00:54:13 am
Brock is too cute!

Rebeca good for you. It seems as if the two of you know what is best. Smart little boy. He will be fine. Not all babies are the same and doctors do not always know what is best. I am glad things are better. Again shame on dh. They can really suck sometimes. Mine has been PMSing all day. I know he is tired and stressed from school and work but don't take it out on me! I hate it because he is great and everything will be fine until he gets busy again and then he just gets so moody. I would rather him be gone! That is mean but he acts like a child and he won't talk about it or even admit anything is wrong. Oh so you are just acting like a butt for no reason! So much better.

I agree people/doctors seem to think young= dumb. Makes me sooo mad.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 15, 2006, 01:01:39 am
Man, I missed a ton of posts.  I am not getting any notices.  Poor, poor BW site.  Do you need to try another antibiotic?  Luke had to try 4 before we found one that worked...and maybe you need a shot, too, but then you might be allergic and turn into Spot.

 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :wink:

Rebeca, the pediatrician we had before we switched on Jan 3 always made me feel as though he was thinking "God, not this one again.  Can't she figure anything out?"  To be perfectly honest, I am sorta thinking the guy is an a$$.  Oh, did I say that out loud?

I tried the veggie puffs today.  Luke looked at it as if to say, "You eat that thing.  I ain't touchin' it."  So, I did and it was quite tasty.

We introduced the Stage 2 meat mixed with a veggie.  Today it was chicken with sweet potatoes.  He "mmmmmm'd" his way through it, so I guess it was a success.   He had 2/3 of a jar for dinner!
BJ, are you partying hard?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 15, 2006, 01:57:10 am
I'm wondering if any of you ladies have encountered this situation with your lo's yet?  He normally has two naps during the day and a third if there is a long stretch between his afternoon feed and bath time.  The last three days he has been giving me all the signs of being tired around 5pm, but he isn't due for his bath until 6:30 or 7 (depending on when he ate last), but he won't  go to sleep.  I end up picking him back up from his crib and then he's happy-ish until bathtime.  It's weird.   Today he was awake for almost 5 hours before he finally had his bath and went to bed....

He doesn't seem to be terribly put out by this, but I'm just confused because he was giving me all the signs of being tired then won't sleep..... 

Any suggestions?
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Livingmom on January 15, 2006, 02:02:30 am
My lo did (and still does) the exact same thing. She almost never takes the evening catnap anymore--even when she starts rubbing her eyes. She is usually awake from around 3pm until bedtime between 7-7:30pm. It works for her--although there are plenty of nights that she is a little on the crabbier side.  :?
My guess (and maybe I just hope it is this) is that she is at daycare all day and wants to be with mom and dad at night so she doesn't want to waste that time napping.  :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 15, 2006, 02:03:53 am
Good grief my feet hurt!!!!! And now I am so tired!!!  But aside from that, I think our party was a great hit!!  We lived in a very very very small house (about 900 sq feet with two children) and moved into a  2100+ sq ft house, so much easier to 'entertain' ppl with more room!!
 
We received several things off our registry and were given several gift cards.  So Tuesday will be a fun filled day.  We are going to start ordering our furniture and then going to Target to wrap up our registry!  Wooohhhhooooo!!!!

Well Cait is back to her old self, so no complaints there.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:    So I am guessing none of you use the mesh bag eating thing?  I am going grocery shopping tomorrow, so I guess I will look then.

Amy, glad to see that Luke is feeling better. 

Christine, Brock is a cutey!!

Leslie, Cait gets a rash if I use a "wipey" on her face after eating.  I guess her facial skin is more sensitive than her butt?????  :roll:  :shock:  And if she is drooling a lot, it can irritate it too.  We just try to keep her as dry as possible.  Oh, AND when we would give Ryan a bottle as a baby, it would leak down into the fat rolls on his neck and cause a monstrous rash.....poor dude.

Rebeca, sounds to me that Santiago is perfectly healthy.  Good for you for trusting you instincts and calling the dr to expain himself/herself.  WE are the only ones who truly know our children.  Charts and graphs dont' begin to tell all the facets of our children.  And I am real sorry about your DH.  We have a rule in our house.  We both can't be mad or in a funk at the same time and if the need should ever come that we BOTH have to be mad/funky at the same time, I get to go first!!  :twisted:  :wink:   Hope everything gets back on track for you soon.

Okay...that is all for now.  Have to go unload my new Corning Ware out of the dishwasher.  :D

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 15, 2006, 04:11:52 am
bj - glad your party went well..hope the lo's had fun too!  :wink:

we had company over tonight and alecks is waaaay over tired and sleeping for like 10 min intervals it seems...what fun.  my cousin had her lo over (he's only 6 wks) and he is soo cute!...makes me wish she was still so small...or better yet for another one! :shock: no, no, not yet this one takes every last bit of attention i can give at the moment it seems - poor dh...nah...most the time he doesn't deserve the attention anyway  :wink: i know all about dh's and childish moods.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 15, 2006, 04:15:17 am
by the way i have only heard of the mesh bags somewhere on this site but have never seen them available anywhere.

i also have noticed that alecks had been lengthening her awake time and seems to be taking one longer nap (2 and a half hrs) and an hour and a half nap instead of two long naps and a catnap...must be the age and starting to outgrow it.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 15, 2006, 10:11:17 am
Yep tom has mostly stopped taking his catnap in Eve now aswell, we put him to bed 30 mins earlyer and he seems fine (although he does sometimes fall asleep on his bottle when hes really tired :oops: ) iIts improved his nighttime sleep anyway.. so horay for that. :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 15, 2006, 12:30:46 pm
Regarding the catnap. I am finding the same thing. I tried to give Abbi a catnap yesterday and she cried and cried. I wasn't going to fight her on it. I decided to put her to bed just after 6:30pm (was nervous because I didn't want her to wake up too early) and she is still in bed at 7:30am as I type this.

So much of this motherhood stuff is just rolling with it.  I am watching a beautiful sunrise this morning.

Glad to hear your party was a success BJ! 

Does anyone else have problems sleeping?  It is great that Abbi sleeps through the night but maybe I need some sleep training. I have not been sleeping well. I think the best I have slept in the last few months was right after my dental surgery when I was taking pain killers.  Any tips?  I probably should be getting more exercise.

Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 15, 2006, 14:52:54 pm
Well, things seem to be smoothing out for us here.  Santiago slept well last night, he moaned a little bit around 4 a.m. but his fell back asleep soon after.  This morning though he would NOT eat his cereal with formula, he would actually hag and dry heave, I thought maybe he was full after his feed.  But dh suggested making some with breastmilk and he ate it all!  There are too many things pointing towards bf so I'm going to "forget" what the doc said and not give him anymore formula.  I'll try to intrdue if evry few days just in case and so he starts to get use to other flavors of milk, but only for that purpouse.  I'm a little worried that all this emotional upheaval (sp?) has affected my supply because I could pump less than an oz, so I'm going to see my lc this week so she can help me out.

On the dh department, I think he took a hint yesterday and make very snuggly and lovey-dovey  :roll: Thank goodness   :roll: I even got a back massage last night!!   :lol:   So today we're going to his parents house and then to the park with ds, I'll take pictures and post them tonight!!


Oh, about the cat nap, Santiago almost never has it, unless we're in the car at around 5 p.m.  Somedays he takes it in stride, others not so much, but all in all he's content.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 15, 2006, 15:18:19 pm
Luke still takes his cat nap...esp when he's been at daycare all day.

We got a little mesh contraption.  I think it's made by Sassy.  It's a little mesh bag with a plastic handle.  Haven't used it yet.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 15, 2006, 15:25:05 pm
BJ-Yea for your party, glad it was a succes. Have fun with those target gift cards. Oh I haven't tried the mesh bag things but I have seen them at Target. Right next to all of the bottles and pacifers.

Rebeca- My milk supply seems to be sensitive also. If I am majorly stressed or not sleeping it has a not so good impact. I also have to drink about 20 gallons of water a day. Aiden balked at the formula at first too. But I changed formulas around to find one that tasted better and he is fine with it now. But I think you should be fine with breast milk. I have to make sure he will take it, in case my milk supply runs low or he hits a growth spurt.

Catnaps are gone here. Aiden did the same thing, but I gave up putting him to bed adn inroduced quiet time. He still gets a bit cranky around that time so we go for a walk (weather permitting) or listen to some music or read a book.

It is amazing to me how much I have learned from Aiden. I have more patience and flexabity then I ever did. He trained me well. I feel like my job is so much easier. I am afraid this is the calm before the storm. But this age is really making me want another! It is not possible and crazy but still would be nice.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 15, 2006, 16:00:58 pm
Thanks everybody for responding about the naps.  I will try to do either a quiet time or go for a walk during that time of day.  He still sleeps well through the night, but has started to wake up about an hour earlier than normal.  It's funny, I was silently complaining to myself this morning about the fact that ds is waking up at 7am instead of 8 and I had to stop myself.  My goodness how selfish am I?!  Most people would kill to have a baby that sleeps from 7:30pm to 7am!   I have to remember that I am very very lucky to have the baby that I have.

BJ- glad to hear your party went well, the new house sounds Huge!  Where in West Texas are you?  I vacationed in Texas a few years back and I would have to say, I think it is my favorite American State to travel in.

Cheers
Judy
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 15, 2006, 16:27:26 pm
Judy, I have to agree with you, Texas is my FAV state....and not JUST because I was born and raised here!!!   :wink:   I actually live just North of Houston in College Station.  It is the town where Texas A&M University is based.   I think Amy is actually the one that lives in West Texas.  Do you have a lot of jack rabbits Amy?  I went to Del Rio once on our way to Big Bend Nat'l park and we all named Del Rio, Jack Rabbit hell, because we slept in our cars ( :roll: ) and when we woke up there were at least a million jack rabbits all over the place!!!  Those things were HUGE!!  Anyway...I digress.

Yeah, I think I am going to try the mesh feeder.  See if that does anything for her.

My thing with the naps is that Cait seems to think she can stay up ALL day from her morning nap till it is time to go to bed.  :shock:   And she isnt' cranky or whiney, but she does fuss the later in the day it gets.  And I think I have to lay blame at my MIL feet, because she will watch the kids for me when DH is out of town, and I am at work.  She says that she puts Cait in her crib and she does nothing but cry.  :roll:   Well I dont'  know how to tell her that if she is hysterical crying pick her up, and try again in 15 minutes.  If she is just talking and such...LEAVE her alone.  She will go to sleep.  I don't really do the CIO approach, grates my nerves to hear her crying that long and unconsolably (sp?).  So I need to work with her on that.

AND if this child doesn't start to SIT UP on her own soon!!!!  Dh says we have just been lazy with her and not working with her.  Do you guys think that maybe that could be part of the problem?  Aye, aye, aye....it just never ends.

Party was a great success, thanks to all for asking.  We only got one duplicate gift, and one of the ppl that gave it to us wasn't there for the opening of the gifts, so no one was feeling uncomfortable.  So I get to take that back and my gift cards and shop shop shop!!!  And I am ssssoooooo lucky that I have a dh that loves to shop with me.   :D  :D  :D   And the kids were even given presents, so everyone enjoyed the party.  My aunt threw the party for us and bought a beautiful floral center piece that I took pictures of this morning so that I can duplicate it with some flowers from Hobby Lobby.  I will see if I can post a pic if anyone is interested in seeing it.

Anyway...off to the grocery store, home depot and maybe Target!  :D  :D Check in later!!

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 15, 2006, 16:37:25 pm
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops: sorry I keep writing books....ya'll can tell me to shut up at anytime.  :oops:  :oops:

 :wink: bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 15, 2006, 17:54:27 pm
I just came form Target...spent way too much money. They have diapers on sale though.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 15, 2006, 18:14:27 pm
BJ- regarding the sitting up thing. I feel the same way about Abbi not rolling over. It doesn't bother me but my mom seems to think that this is a problem.  We didn't do anything to help Abbi sit up on her own but I have a feeling that her bumbo chair helped her get used to it.  Like I say she has been sitting for two months now but still could care less about rolling. Will she sit with support of pillows? 

Rebeca - glad to hear that you are going with your instincts. My sister is an Emergency Room Pediatrician and when I was concerned with Abbi's weight she said that it becomes a concern only when babies drop two percentage lines on the growth chart. Otherwise it is likely that the baby is leveling off and not growing as quickly anymore.  Does this make sense?  It made me feel better when she told me.


Leslie
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 15, 2006, 18:24:34 pm
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Does anyone else have problems sleeping? It is great that Abbi sleeps through the night but maybe I need some sleep training
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 :lol: I need sleep training aswell!! :?  Im really tired and fall a\sleep ok but then wake up in the night and cant get back to sleep!!! Maybe DH needs to do some pick up put dpwn on me!! :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 15, 2006, 19:17:03 pm
Luke is waking up at 3:45 these days.  Lucky for us, this morning he just played for a bit and slept until 5:30, but then he was up and ready to be fed RIGHT THEN.  Then he goes back to sleep until 8 or so.  His nights are so off, poor thing.  But, I will say that his morning nap and his afternoon nap are right on schedule.  They haven't changed at all.  If I try to keep him up later at night, it's miserable for all of us, mainly him, so I just go ahead an let him go to bed at 6:45.  Normally he'll sleep until 6:45 am, buuuuuuuuut not these days!

Yes, I am in West Texas...Midland to be exact.  The hometown of George and Laura Bush.  Her mother actually a member of our church and I see her quite often.  She's a very nice lady.  She always compliments me when I sing.  Maybe she'll get me in the White House  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
The only jack rabbits I have seen are on the golf course.  I never saw so many of them.  And prairie dogs and pump jacks.  I thought I'd moved to hell when we moved here.  I am originally from the Houston area, so this was a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig change for me.

But, BJ and I are connected....I graduated from Texas A&M University.  My husband graduated from The University of Texas, so we are a house divided  :wink:

How did everyone meet their hubby?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: LeslieG on January 15, 2006, 21:43:52 pm
Alison,

That is me to a tee! I fall asleep okay and then I usually hear my DH come to bed (he is a late to bed guy and usually works late as well). Then I fall back asleep until the 4ish range and then have a really hard time getting back to sleep between 4 and 6 or 6:30.....ugh.  I think it might just be a motherhood thing. 

How did my DH and I meet?   We both were working in Lake Louise, Alberta.  I was managing 60 staff in a busy restaurant at the Chateau Lake Louise.  He was a staff member of mine.  At the time there was no interest. I was living with someone else and wasn't looking to move to a different partner.  Fast forward about 8-9 months.  I decided to move back home to Ontario.  I left my job, my boyfriend, apartment etc...and decided to go back to school.  I was doing my post-grad diploma in PR and I walked into a restaurant here in London and there was Steve.  I knew I had worked with him out west and thought it would be nice to get together and hang out.  Well....we started hanging out and realizing how much we had in common etc... and our friendship soon turned into more.  We married within a year.  This summer we will be married 5 years. Can't believe how the time has flown by.  The funny thing is that Steve had a dream while still working with me out West that we ran into each other and started dating.  Strange!

Anyone else want to share?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jordon&dylansmom on January 15, 2006, 21:52:25 pm
My Hubby was my landlord.  My roomate being a gay man, thought he was pretty attractive and invited him over for dinner hoping that he was also gay.  Apparently not.  We drank 5 bottles of wine that night, and have been together pretty much ever since.  Dating for 5 years and married for 3 and a half.  He likes to joke to people that he came over to fix the plumbing and never left.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 15, 2006, 22:14:51 pm
Me and DH went to uni together. Id just got out of a serious relationship (we were engaged) with my boyfriend from school who id been with since i was 16. I wanted to ensure i didnt fall in love again, as i just wanted some fun, so when Phil (who was my friend... but also known for being a ladys man!!) and me became close we decided to keep it casual and just have fun. We had an on off relationship for our final year at uni, and became best friends. When we left uni we decided "casual" didn't work long distance (he lived in liverpool, me in oxford... not long distance compared with the states... but pretty far for england :wink: ) so we broke up. Thats when we realised that completely against our will we'd fallen in love :D  That was 7 years ago.. we've lived together for the last four and a half years and been maried since Jan 2004.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 15, 2006, 22:16:31 pm
By the way dh was never really a ladys man.. it was just there were 10 females to every male at our uni.. so he was making the most of it!!!! :wink:  :lol:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 15, 2006, 22:17:16 pm
Wouldn't want you all to think i married a sleeze!! :o
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 15, 2006, 22:21:34 pm
My husband married one of my best friends from high school and I sang in their wedding.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Superman'sMom on January 16, 2006, 02:42:48 am
What? I gotta hear that story!

Actually DP worked for me. I was his manager and I was training him to move up a position. We would always stay after work and talk for hours in the parking lot. We just clinked I guess. I really wasn't expecting anything like that... I was a total workaholic! Now I am a stay at home mom! Strange how life works out sometimes.

Has anyone elses babies every gotten the hiccups and woke up. Aiden woke up about an hour after I put him down and when I went in there and picked him up he was hiccuping like crazy. It was the funniest thing. Poor guy was so tired and everytime he would lay his head down he would hiccup.
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: jswerczek on January 16, 2006, 03:02:45 am
Jake gets the hiccups all the time :) Especially when he goes to bed at night.

So.... DRUM ROLL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jake's two bottom teeth are breaking through yahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I am so excited, there are two little white stumps barely through the gums, I can't wait for them to be all the way in. How long does it take once they have started?

Also, anybody's lo giving them grief in the eating department... my big boy doesn't seem to want to eat... and it's very frustrating! Maybe it's the teeth????

Amy- your husband did what... ? :) Aren't you a saint for even going to the wedding!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: HeatherC on January 16, 2006, 03:05:59 am
Hi there ladies.  You've got quite a few pages going on your thread.  Would you like for us to lock this one so you can start fresh with another?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 16, 2006, 03:09:56 am
Amy....please tell us that he divorced your best friend and THEN married you???   :wink:   I know you live in West Texas, but we dont' stretch all the way to Utah.  :wink:  :lol:

Dh and I went to grade school together, I then switched schools in jr high.  Fast forward 6 years, and we ended up working together in a mom and pop gas station(Lewis' Exxon in Hempstead, Amy, you had to go through it to get to A&M).  My dad had a heartattack, my boyfriend at the time wouldn't come home from A&M to be with me and Dh walked into the office, asked what was wrong.  He gave me a hug.  That was in March of '94, I left loser boy and started dating dh  July 8th, we were engaged by January 8th '95 (really special night  :D ), moved in together January 13th, bought our first house in May '95, got married August 25th and we have been married for 10.5 years, have 2 kids and 1 cat.  I wouldn't trade him for the world!!  He is definitely my BETTER half. 

Leslie, Cait only roles from tummy to back....and that isnt' even consistently.  I think I am going to see what the dr says Tuesday.  I know she is a big baby, I went through this with Ryan, he was slow to move too.

Yes, I spent in addition to my gift cards, $40.00+ and that doesn't even get all of our stuff off our registry.  The college kids have come back into town from the xmas holidays and it seems as though they "forgot" all of their freakin' furniture and have to go to Target the SAME day I am and buy all of their stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  *%%#%@#^%&*^**(&())(*(^%&$%^#$%^  I am not happy.  Darn good thing I am going to Houston in the morning, I will just hit one of the Targets there.  Also going to Kohl's, that is my new fav store.

Yet....here I am with ANOTHER BOOK.  So sorry guys.  Just one more thing.  When we got home tonight, dh has going back out to the truck to get our target stuff....in our entry way was a huge scorpion!!! :shock:   We had them out at our property, but I really didnt' think we would have them here too!!!  I hate those things.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 16, 2006, 03:13:18 am
sure Heather, if that is what we need to do, just let us know.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 16, 2006, 03:31:25 am
I met dh when I was 15 and sneaking into clubs with my sister's ID.  She took me one night and said it would be easier to get in if I pretended to be the gf of one her bf's friends.  As soon as I saw César I said " I wanna go in with him!" :shock: When they asked him if he'd be willing to go in with me just so I could get past the bouncers he rolled his eyes and made a stink.  When he asked "Where is she? Oh! THAT'S her!?!?!? No, I have nooooo problem"  We talked all night.  Fast through the years and I cheat on all my bf's with him and he on all his gf's with me, but we could never get serious with each other.  He's an uptight preppy nerd, I'm a tattooed, live on the wild side hippie.  I then get serious about a bf and stop fooling around with César.  The other dude and I last 3 years and had a HORRIBLE break-up, so I vowed to be man-free for a whole year.  A friend of mine started telling me I was to rash, so I said " Fine, Mr Perfect can call only tonight if not I'm alone for a year" *** I'm not making this up*** my phone rang THAT second and it was César asking me out !!  We got out for 2 years, he takes me to Bogota, Colombia for Christmas and asks me to marry him, all is great then we break up, I go to Europe to clear my head, come back home, we get back together, take off to the beach to consolidate our wedding plans and BOOM!! We made more than wedding plans, we made Santiago!!! LOL!!  That was in Oct, we were married on the same beach we made Santiago in Jan.

Wheeeew! That's a long story! And I made the details as consice as possible!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 16, 2006, 03:41:02 am
Oh Rebeca that is a great story!!!!!!!  I love it!!!!


bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 16, 2006, 04:32:45 am
when dh and i met i was waitressing at a restaurant and he was just being hired...he swears to this day i hit on him but i was just introducing myself to get a better look cuz i thought he was cute..we talked for about a year - nothing serious, then i got promoted to manager and had to move to london, ont and told him if he wanted to be with me he was more than welcome to come but i wouldn't do the long distance thing - heard too many horror stories.  i guess we both didn't let on our feelings as much as we should have until that point but he hummed and hawed for a couple days then said sure.  he ended up working in the same restaurant (again) and i was his boss for 4 years while we lived together (baaaad news...surprised we made it this far..). he always said he'd never get married but i knew he's wear down eventually.  my uncle had the whole family go to vegas for his wedding oct 6/04.  we were there two days and dh asked me to marry him and we got married the day after - oct7/04...and alecksandria was the absolute best thing that we brought home from vegas!!..she was conceived oct 8/04...not on our wedding day b/c my sweet brother fell asleep in our room..but that's another story in itself.  anyway we've been together for almost 7yrs and married for a year and a bit...sorry long story!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 16, 2006, 04:34:10 am
leslie and chelsea - apparantly our men like authoratative (sp?) women... :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: alison toms mum on January 16, 2006, 08:46:04 am
I must be such an old romantic... i love to hear peoples stories of how they met!! :roll:  :wink:  :D
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 16, 2006, 13:17:47 pm
Hey Amy, I'm still waiting to hear your story!!!  Who married who first?

Bj, thanks  :oops:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: ry,cait&alex on January 16, 2006, 14:33:14 pm
I have started a second thread

June/July '05 Mom's Chat #2

Heather would like to lock this thread as we have soooo many pages, so please start posting over there.

bj
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 16, 2006, 15:50:00 pm
can't find the new thread...maybe someone could help me out and put a link??  apparantly in my sleep deprived state of awakeness i can get a little slow... :wink:
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 16, 2006, 15:50:46 pm
OMG.  I should proof read what I type.  My husband's BROTHER married one of my best friends and I sang in their wedding.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Sorry it wasn't something jucier!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: mrshamilton24 on January 16, 2006, 15:51:25 pm
WAAAAAIIIIIIITTTTTTT....don't leave me on this thread when I can't find the new one...................???????????

Where is the June/July #2 thread?  I don't see it on the Easy Forum???????

I don't want to be stuck typing to myself forever!!!!!!!  :)

-Christine
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: teezee on January 16, 2006, 15:53:04 pm
christine - lmao - i am glad i am not the only one...was beginning to feel left out!
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 16, 2006, 15:58:42 pm
I can't find it eather.  Shall I create it?
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: rebecaq on January 16, 2006, 15:59:13 pm
I can't find it either!

Amy, LMAO!!!! I was waiting for the scoop!!! Hee hee hee
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: Critter on January 16, 2006, 16:00:08 pm
Ok.  I will create it!  Sorry if there will be 2 #2s
Title: June/ July 05 Mom's Chat
Post by: HeatherC on January 16, 2006, 16:42:33 pm
Sorry, you guys are fast.  Before I checked back there were already 2 new pages.  I'm locking this thread.  Please chat on June/July 05 #2.