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Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 14, 2005, 23:39:27 pm
Hi Everyone,

Since our wonderful March/April thread was almost 100 pages we thought it would be great to start a new one so as to avoid confusion.  Our old thread has been locked so no new posts can be added. 

a few things to keep in mind this time around as we have grown into a very large group (and will continue to grow Iimagine)

 :arrow: Please do not feel obligated to respond to everyone everytime you post a reply. In other words, do not feel that you need to "catch up" with everyone!
 :arrow: If you want, pop in to just tell a story or share some news!
 :arrow: If you have a question that no one here seems to be able to answer, post it elsewhere - a lot of other members have been there before, whereas most of us are going through it now with you(some of us have more than 1 child, but most are first time parents).
 :arrow: Introductions for existing members and new members would be great to help us get acquainted/reacquainted!

To start with me, I am a first time mom and am 29 years old.  DH and I have been married for 6 years :D   Our DD is Taylor and started out Spirited but has turned out to be pretty Textbook/Angel!  (45 minute naps and all!).  I recently quit my job as an account manager to stay home with Taylor and help DH out with his business.  We have a pug, a lab mix and a cat, so with Taylor we have a regular zoo!
My hobbies include reading, watching movies and hanging out with family and friends. 
Taylor's hobbies include blowing raspberries, squealing, rolling all around and putting anything and everything in her mouth!

Hope to talk to you all soon!
Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 14, 2005, 23:51:58 pm
Hi Everyone,

I hope it was ok to go ahead and begin a whole new thread as I was feeling like I needed to introduce myself as well. Well thought Hannah and I also feel like an impostor most times! I know how great and understading all of you are and how great it is to know everyone here is in the same relative boat.

So here goes ;

Richelle: Hi, my name is Richelle and I am a Baby Whisperering mom...

ALL: Hi Richelle

Ok - bad joke.

Anywho my name is Richelle and I have been married to Woody for 4 years. I am a Canadian and he is British and we met and married and procriated in the Caribbean, namely the Cayman Islands. I am a Food & Beverage Consultant and Manager and am back to work full time. Sophie is our 1st baby and we have been blessed with an Angel (I can't wait for another!).

Thank you again and my dh thanks you as well - as my mood is always lightend after 'venting to you ladies.

Can't wait to meet everyone in ernest.

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 14, 2005, 23:59:13 pm
Andrea thanks for starting this new thread!!  I wanted to reply to your second last post on the other thread but didn't before it was locked.  Do NOT feel silly being upset over the short naps.  I wasn't implying you shouldn't be upset, just that for myself I find if I can figure out WHY *I* am bothered by something I can solve things better - whether it be the nap or my 'issue'.  Believe me I get upset about these things too -   I feel like my whole day/night revolves around getting people to sleep, to stay asleep, to stop crying, to stop shouting... it's exhausting.  I've just recently given up my stressing over keeping the older girls quiet while the babies nap.  I finally realized that this is their home too and their only childhood and how fun is it if mommy tells them to stop laughing so loud in case they wake the babies?  PLUS since the babies don't seem to be so in to sleep at night, well, maybe limited the day sleep is a good thing.

Ok - so after all that...  for those who don't know I'm Judy :)  Mom to 4 girls, Zoe coming up on 3.5yo, Sarah just turned 2, and Kaia & Hannah almost 6month old twins.  I'll have been married 4 years this November but together with dh for 9 years now.

Our house is crazy busy and everyone but dh & I seems to feel that sleep is overrated ;).  K&H slept through the night (from 10pm - 7am) a few times around the 3month mark but now I can't even remember when I last slept past 4.30am.  On any typical night here I get to bed around 11pm and am woken the first time by one baby at anywhere between 3.30 & 4.30am.  Feed or not feed at least one little lady will stay awake for 1.5hours by which time her sister will be up.  By the time the second little lady had gone back to sleep the first one is often awake again - or the older two are waking up.   I've recently decided to give up the df just so I could get to sleep earlier, although Hannah obviously wasn't game with this as since then she's decided to wake on her own for this feed at 10.30pm.

They are also VERY touchy babies.  I didn't want to have to admit that since it sounds a negative label BUT, they pretty much are only happy when I'm close by and we are all in the house.  They're not so thrilled with the idea of travelling in the van (although we have gotten some quiet moments recently!!), Kaia doesn't even care so much for being outside in our own yard even.  They smile and coo and laugh a ton - but it takes very little to upset them and set them off.

Started solids just over a week ago now.  Kaia has taken to the cereal from the start and loves it.  Demanding it a little faster even.  Hannah, will smile and stick her tongue out at me or simply smirk with tight lips... opening for a bite once a day maybe (that's ONE bite in three meals).  Interestingly Hannah is very good at working the food back in her mouth to swallow and is extremely neat, not spitting out any of her ONE bite LOL.  Kaia, as I said laps it up, but each bite she takes is inserted about three times before it is all swallowed. :)

I am breastfeeding both girls which I do simultaneously WHILE I surf here!

:)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 15, 2005, 00:00:09 am
Yeah!!  I love hearing about everyone!

My name is Michelle (aka Micky) and DH and I have been married 2 1/2 years.  DH works away from home in the oil patch and is gone for 4-5 weeks at a time.  Jackson is our first munchkin.  He is a touchy/textbook/spirited cutie!  We have had a rough start.  He was an extremely crabby newborn...me not being very baby smart...just thought he was a crabby baby and so carried him all day long and then let him fall asleep on me at night :shock:  :shock: .  Well, long story short, at 4 weeks of age he had hernia surgery (harder on me then him!!), at 8 weeks of age he stopped breathing I had to resuscitate him...we spent 2 weeks in hospital trying to figure out what was wrong with him.  All tests came back normal, of course, and they figured it was bad reflux that caused him to choke and stop breathing.  Since that hospital stay we started BW and he has become a MUCH happier baby!!!  Due to meds for his reflux , having better naps, and me not being so drained from carrying him!! :shock:   Now we are waiting for his foot surgery....he definitely hasn't been a dream baby :D !  But I wouldn't trade him for anything! 
We also have a german shepard X named Tiga, a Rottweiller named Max, two cats Fiasco and Miko and nice fish tank....so yes this is a busy house too!!  I can't wait to keep reading about everyone!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 15, 2005, 00:14:44 am
Well hi! it is me, Naomi.
Judy, you are soo supermom, I am trying to figure the mechanics of bf twins together while surfing on here, and typing to boot.
Well for those who don't know me, as if!! This is me, I am 26, married to andrew for 3, been together for 5. We have 2 lo's Jayson Xander who is 2 1/2 and Riley Maeanne who is 6mths.
Things are relativly good here,I just wanted to pop on here and introduce myself on this new thread, we are in the midst of the start of the cold season in this household. I have been missed by it thusfar.
I will check in with you girls when I have a little more energy.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 15, 2005, 00:20:44 am
Hi everybody-
I was just thinking it was a good idea to start a new thread as well, glad you all beat me to it!  Glad to hear the "introductions" though I feel like I know some of you rather well already and glad to hear from anyone new too.  I have learned so much from hearing about all of your LOs. 
Anyway...
I'm Erin, live in northwestern NJ with my husband Mark.  We've been married for 4 years and we've been together for almost 10 years (yikes!).  We have two cats, Ariel and Scout, and would love to have more pets, but we've got enough going on right now!  Up until I had Katie I was teaching 8th grade, special education - mainly learning disabled kids, behavioral stuff thrown in, lots of ADHD, stuff like that (sounds like we have that in common Ankie).  I'm on maternity leave this year, perhaps longer, but don't think our finances will allow for that.   Currently I'm working two days a week teaching other teachers how to teach dyslexic kids to read.  Katie is our first of hopefully two...or more...we'll see  :D  and she is definitely a little angel, but a spirited one at that.  Daytime sleep is not her thing, though she usually is pretty good at night, so I never complain about the naps (well, almost never  :wink: ).  Hmmm....I think that's about it.

Micky - holy cow  :shock:  Jackson really had a rough first few weeks.  You posted last the same time as I did, so I just read about his surgery.  Hope all goes well and that it is the last of your hospital visits with the little guy.  I can't imagine how tough it has been for you. 

I look forward to hearing everyone's introductions and to continuing our chat. 
Take care,
Erin
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 15, 2005, 01:20:26 am
Andrea, thanks for getting the new thread started :D

I'm Traci.  I'm 34 years old, married to DH Tony for 2 years Sept.26th.  I'm a SAHM until I go back to work next April.  I'm in the mutual fund accounting industry (yawn) but hope to go back to something different. Cole is just over 6 months, born April 6th.  Cole is Textbook with smidges of Angel and Spirit. 

I read BW when I was pregnant but I have a poor memory on the best of days so once Cole arrived many of the principles left my brain!  And when a baby is crying you tend to do what is necessary to get them to sleep.  Cole didn't latch well from the start so I was hesitant to introduce a paci...but once we did at 5 weeks it was a huge relief.  It used to take an hour of swaddling, shushing, swinging etc to get him to sleep without it.
I followed a loose EASY.  he didn't fall asleep on the breast.  I think my biggest mistake was overstimulation and therefore he rarely napped well.  I remember 1 2 hour nap in 4 months!

At 4 months he started waking more frequently and I made the mistake of bringing him to my bed.  He then would only return to sleep with me.  After about 3 weeks of this I re-read BW but didn't find my answers there.  I googled baby whisperer and the rest is history!  I have been here since the end of August.  It took many weeks to get Cole's sleep schedule fully in place.  It took a lot of hard work but was certainly worth it.  A baby who used to be held to sleep for all naps and bed, had a paci, went to bed between 9 and 10pm and only ever took 45 min. naps is now a dream baby.  I still feed him twice at night (10pm and 2am) but he generally sleeps 6-5:30 and takes 2 1-1.5 hour naps and a 45 min. catnap.  I used to think he was a bad car baby...but that was because he was overstimulated/overtired and couldn't soothe himself.  His is now wonderful in the car and absolutely charming in social situations.

I am so lucky to have found this site and all you wonderful women to share my thoughts, hopes, fears and concerns with.

I love coming here (as you can tell) each day to tell of how we are doing and read about everyone else.  I look forward to chatting with you all in the future, and possibly even meeting some of you sometime.  Come on Judy...lug that army to Toronto! :wink:

okay, I think that covers most of it :P

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 15, 2005, 01:34:18 am
Hi Everyone!

I'm Nikki, 33, and married to Simon for 5yrs.  We live in New Zealand on the lovely Kapiti Coast (Car-pity or Ka-pity depending on whether you use the Maori pronounciation or not) where we moved just prior to getting married, I've lived in quite a few cities in the Nth Island of NZ.

Nathan was a touchy/textbook baby who definitely improved when I found BW when he was 3wks old.  He's an adoring big brother to Danielle who is an angel baby through and through.  She has had about 2wks of sleeping through the night but currently wakes between 1-3am for a super quick feed (down to about 2mins). 

I'm fairly loose with the EASY routine this time around after stressing over it with Nathan and often have a lot of A before E.

I'm a SAHM, but worked up until having Nathan and then when he was 11mths old returned to work 3 days a week until I was 6mths pregnant with Danielle.  I don't intend on returning but will be starting some correspondence study in a couple of weeks to get a Diploma in Proofreading and Editing which will take about 12mths to complete - hopefully then I'll be able to freelance from home.

 :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 15, 2005, 01:56:38 am
My name is Hannah. I live in Olympia, Washington. I am 32 years old and a 4th grade teacher. I have one child, dd Sophia born April 11, 2005.  Sophie is an angel/textbook child who can be everything else, of course.  But truthfully she has been fairly low maintenance.  I keep thinking I need to get her all sorted out before I go back to work.  And then I remember she's a baby, not lesson plans to write...that will probably always be my issue.

I also have a stepson, Brendan who is 6 years old. He lives with his mom. We have visitation every other weekend. My husband Mike and I will have been married one year on Nov. 26th...yes we were pregnant before we got married Smile
Sophia was a complete surprise and I am truly loving it, as difficult as it can be at times. Mike and I had only been together 1 year when we found out I was pregnant.  We had both been married young and divorced, thank goodness, so we had some experience/knew a little bit about what we were getting into. 
I am on leave from my job until Dec. at which point I will go back full time. I read the BW when dd was about 4 months. She slept with us up until I read bw....then we started sleep training. It was rough at first, especially getting Mike on board...but had gotten much better.  He was a stay at home dad with Brendan for awhile and can be very skeptical of advgice from parenting books.  But I have to give him credit he has really gotten on board, although I sense we are not through all of the rough waters yet (who is?).
I love coming here, venting, getting advice, sharing stoies and reading your adventures.
Thanks for being here.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 15, 2005, 01:57:09 am
Quote from: Colesmom
Come on Judy...lug that army to Toronto! :wink:

 :P   Traci did you miss the part where K & H scream 80% of the time we're in the van?  LOL  BUT - hey, now why don't you drop on down to London?  We've got Storybook Gardens (which btw we've done and it was a nightmare to start... ok I admitted K & H were touchy,  but... so is Zoe.  My goodness I think having to walk *through* the darkish 'castle' with paybooths was too much for her.  And me being the distracted mom that I am didn't take time ahead to explain it all to her and give her time to be prepared to do it when she was ready)  Ok... see how distracted I get?  Ok - so we have nice parks!  And hey, I have an awesome playcentre that dh built right in my backyard which btw is 25acres so there's room for *everyone*.

Traci I also JUST noticed (being the overly aware person that I am) that Cole was born the same day as K&H!  Ok, but explain to me how your ticker calculates him as being 6months 1week because I thought my girls weren't quite 6 months... although I'm counting April-May-June etc. rather than weeks - that must be the difference.

I was reading that thinking "ok this is why I can't figure out how to get them to sleep - I can even figure out how old they are" :)  So NOW I'm amazed even more that Cole is crawling the stairs and pulling up and such!!  WOW!!  Kaia & Hannah are nowhere near that yet.  And they're so tiny yet - just over 13lbs.  In fact they are *just* fitting into sleepers that Sarah wore at 2months!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mrayohler on October 15, 2005, 02:02:39 am
Hi everyone!

I'm so happy to see the new thread because as hard as I tried to follow I couldn't keep up and was actually getting a little intimidated with all the unfamiliar people.  New introductions will take that all away....

Name: Michele
Age: 33
Husb: Eric - married 8 yrs together 11 yrs
Kids: 2 girls: Lauren - 3. 5yrs & Payton 7.5 mos
Home: WI, USA - Milwaukee suburb
Occupation: Full time project mgr for large insurance company YAWN! but I love it!

Introduced to babywhisperer by my sister in law and best friend.  I loved how well their kids slept and behaved and was committed to it before ever thinking about kids.  I'm always amazed at how hard I find infants and can't imagine how I would survive w/o this method.  There's no way we're having another child because my stress level about infant sleep would never allow me to stay sane.  I often think I'm honestly losing it and my kids are actually pretty good sleepers when I look at the big picture.   My husb has 8 siblings and I look at his mother and wonder what drugs she took for 15 yrs of her life to survive that (J/K)

Payton is a textbook/touchy baby who has always been a fantastic napper but often still wakes 1x at night.  I haven't fed her at night since right at 6 months old but her nights are rather short compared to many on this thread (8pm to 6am on an average night).

Both girls go to an in home daycare and I just asked the day care provider to start waking P earlier from naps (she was getting 4-5 hrs in naps and now 3-4) so she would sleep more at night.  This worked wonderful the first night (last night) but we'll see about tonight. 

Payton is so very, very happy that its often easy to miss her tired cues.  She just started doing SO BIG and I think she's waving Bye Bye to me in the morning.  She's got 2 bottom teeth and been on solids for a while now. She's not the most excited eater but is doing okay.  She really likes things with more texture than the jars of food so I'm quickly going to transition her to mushed table food.

Payton nurses for the morning feed and I pump 3 other times during the day for about 24 oz breastmilk in a day.  I'm wondering what you think your little ones are drinking in a day.

Enough, enough.  I really love interacting with you all.  Thanks for sharing and most of all listening!

Michele
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 15, 2005, 04:39:38 am
Hi,
Introductions as follows:
Also, I am Karen, 33 years old. Married to Des for 5 years. Sam is our first child. We live in Auckland, New Zealand. We discovered BW when Sam was 8 weeks old and prior to that, he had to rocked for all his naps although night sleep was good. I work at the Emergency Room, child rearing is a complete mystery to me! Am going back to work part time in the beginning of November. Would love to be a SAHM but dh says that I have brain rot and need to get out. I think that he wants some alone time with Sam..he will look after Sam while I am at work and vice versa.

I am also very confused. JUDY and TRACI, your lo's were born 26th April and your ticker says 6 months, 1 week. Sam was born on the 23rd of April and my ticker only says 5 months, 3 weeks etc... How old is he really? And you thought you were bad, Judy lol! Will have to go back and try and work it out.

Anyway, must go as time for our bedtime routine!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 15, 2005, 06:13:10 am
How weird with the tickers - guess it changes depending on whether they work it out as calendar months or 4wkly mths perhaps.  I have no idea how many weeks Danielle is anymore and just go on calendar months so I say she's exactly 6.5mths being born on the 1st April.

Karen, I think I read on the old thread that Sam is now on solids - was he the baby that only pooped once a week along with Danielle?  So has that changed now?  Danielle's getting better with her intake and today had 2tsp baby rice, 1/2 water cracker and 1 oven potato fry at dinner.  I doubt it will change her digestion much at this stage but she did poop twice last week which is a lot for her.  Does he show any signs of straining etc?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 15, 2005, 07:05:39 am
Hello everyone,

Seems like a good time to introduce myself.  I've been a spy on this thread for a minute.

I'm Roz, age 30 and my ds is 5.5 mnths.  DH and I have been married for 3 years and together for 9.   ds was a big surprise. I was too busy to realize I was pregnant until the 4th month.

I picked up BW while pregnant after leafing through about a dozen books at the store.  The information just made sense to me and boy, am I glad I bought it. 

ds is textbook/spirited and has made me take a totally new direction in life including a change in career.  I think this forum is great and have enjoyed reading this thread.  Looking forward to contributing!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 15, 2005, 12:14:10 pm
solnme Great to meet you!!  Wow  - your pregnancy must have flown by!!  Oh cool to not find out till 4months!!  You got to miss all that 'first trimester worrying'  :D  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 15, 2005, 12:20:44 pm
Hello everybody,

I'm Ankie and will be married to James for 3 years next Wednesday. Arwyn is our first child (hopefully of 2) and we live in Burnaby, B.C. (next city over from Vancouver). I am an ESL and Learning Assistance teacher in an elementary school. I used to work in a high school in Special Education (like Erin) but with Deaf students. I will be returning to work in March 2006. We discovered BW when Arwyn was 11 weeks old and have not looked back since. I hang out with a few other moms who also follow BW -- their babies are a few months older than Arwyn. Another friend recommended I come to the site to see what other moms are doing... I came, I saw, and now, I am addicted.

There are lots of teachers on this thread... count back the months and you will see that school was just out!  :wink: That lack of stress and everything, you know!

I am posting at an ungodly hour because we are having our worst night waking ever! Arwyn woke at 3:25 am... pat/shushed back to sleep by 4:10 am (I log in here)... woke again in 15 min... DH pat/shushed because I was pumping (I was up anyway)... woke again at 4:45 am... I pat/shushed for another 10 minutes before whipping out the magic boob at 5 am... poor thing seemed to be hungry and mommy just pumped! Anyhow, her night wakings are all over the place right now. When they began, I think they were due to "developmental milestones" as Tracy calls them. Now, I think they are due to her two accidents in the past week. Hopefully, this too, will pass. OH for Pete's sake, she is up again... will be back.

Okay... gotta get a few more winks of sleep before beginning my day. BTW, the tickers... depends where you get your ticker... I noticed that not all tickers tick the same. I also thought Arwyn was born on the same day as Cole because I went by the ticker without looking at the date. Coincidently, because Traci is in a different time zone, her ticker ticked already and mine hadn't... therefore, making our two children 5 months old at exactly the same time.

Thanks again everybody for well, everything! I love coming here to see what everybody is up to and how their little ones are doing. I don't know what I would do without this avenue to vent, learn, cry, share... and the list goes on.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: jay&danny'smummy on October 15, 2005, 15:51:42 pm
Hello everyone! :D

Thought it was time I posted something!

Well here I go...my name is Emi, Im 27 and work as a registered nurse. Due to start back in two weeks :cry: ...sooo don't want to, but needs must and all that!

Ive been with my partner Dom for just over 3 years, and Jay is our first child, a beautiful baby boy :D

I first found out about tracy when I watched the tv programme on Discovery Health. I was pregnant at the time and became addicted!
Then I brought the first book, and started putting it into practice when Jay was around 4 weeks...have not looked back since!
I have got him in a routine that makes things so much easier, a big relief as Im returning to work and won't have to worry to much!

I look on the website daily and have got so much great help from you lovely ladies....a BIG THANKYOU!

Emi
x

jaysmummy

24/04/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 15, 2005, 17:24:04 pm
Hi everyone,

it is nice to hear everyone's stories about finding BW.  I read BW while I was pregnant and it has been a lifesaver!  My friends threw me a going away party last night and I was telling them my story about findign this website.  I apologize in advance and hope I don't offend anyone (or Tracy), as it is a little insensitive, so here goes:
 :arrow: Taylor was 3 weeks and had "woken up".  To say she was very difficult is an understatement!  I was exhausted and a wreck, and also suffering from a mild case of PPD.  I did a search for the BW on the internet thinking I could hire Tracy for a personal consultation, as I knew she was based in LA.  When I found the site I read that she had died the year before and I started bawling and said to DH, "Now who is going to help us with this child!?!?!" :oops:   Now that we've sorted things out and everything is pretty smooth sailing for the most part, I say a little prayer to Tracy thanking her for all she's done to help out so many moms and famililes :)

BTW, JUDY, I knew what you meant in your last post to me about finding out 'why' it was bothering me.  After thinking about 'why' I realized I couldn't come up with a good enough answer! :wink:  I was definitely over reacting!

ANyhow, off for our walk to try and get some fresh air.  I feel a little hung over quite honestly! :oops:  I haven't felt like this in quite some time!  Did you know that there is now a key lime martini and a 'fore-play' martini!  You miss a lot when you're raising a child! :roll:

Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 15, 2005, 18:54:00 pm
Oh Judy, now I feel like a goof.  I've got your baby brain working overtime doing incorrect calculations.  Cole's bday is April 6th.  I mucked it up because I had the 26th in my head for our anniversary!  Sorry :oops:   So K&H are doing just fine...and obviously they will take a bit of time to catch up size wise because they didn't have as much room to grow as the single babies did :D   How much did they weigh, by the way?  Cole was 7lb 13oz, but came home just under 7 after 3 days because he didn't latch for the first 3 days and my milk finally came in on the 5th.

I've had a rough couple of nights and have to say I don't know how you do it.  At least I can nap when he does, even if it's only 45 minutes.  I know everyone keeps saying it...but you truly are super mommy.  BF twins while surfing!  holy toledo...that is just amazing :shock:

Can I ask everyone a question.  What do you do when your little one won't sleep, screams when you leave the room, but plays when you return?  I have no problem staying in his room to console him if he's upset...but do you just sit there and wait for him to get tired?   Last night I went in about 4 times before I finally gave up and had to let him cry. (He went down great at 6 but woke at 6:45 screaming-this was a day of short naps after a sleep in until 7:30, whole day messed up).  As I've said he often takes 10 min. to settle so finally I just had to let him do it.  And it was hard crying but every time I went in he stopped, grabbed my hand and wanted to play :oops:   And I don't remember who said their lo is doing the bababa, mamamam sounds...but so is Cole and it's heartwrenching to hear him go mamamamamamamama when he's so upset :oops:

Gosh, I have other questions too, like who's lo is now grabbing their penis and fears they will wrench it right off!  And I'm trying to be so PC about it.  It's dirty Cole, well, not dirty, you can touch it, but not when there's poop on it!  LOL  I think I read too much :wink:

okay, gotta get ready for catnap.  He's been hanging in his exersaucer long enough.

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 15, 2005, 19:03:44 pm
Traci - Jay still grabs his pee pee and gives it a good yank, it makes dh cring with fear.
When Riley won't go down like that I just pull her back out and let her play a little longer and watch her cues very closely to make sure she doesn't get over tired.
Hi there Roz and Emi, welcome from us all, it was a good idea to start another thread, we've met new mums already.
Riley is gettting better through the night too, she df at 10pm and goes till morning, I think she does, I don't remember getting her at her early am feed, maybe dh did!! :oops:  :oops: .
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 15, 2005, 19:12:01 pm
I am such a rookie!  I only read Judy's post and there were about 6 more after.

Welcome Emi and Solnme!  Can't wait to hear more about your adventures.

And a public apology to you all for such confusion over the tickers.  I had noted Cole's bday incorrectly.  It's April 6th.

I knew I had another Q.  Anyone tried sippy cups with their LO?  Would that be too much to introduce with the cereal tomorrow?  Maybe cereal in the am and sippy cup in the pm?

Alright, off to have tea and muffin (mmmmmm) and a nice hot shower while he catnaps.

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 15, 2005, 19:26:47 pm
okay here's to show you all what a nut my boy is.
A little something to brighten your day.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 15, 2005, 19:44:33 pm
Welcome Emi and Roz!  :D

Traci, the tugging of it doesn't get any less either... :wink:  Nathan's just been toilet trained and it's more of a toy than ever.  I've now had to explain that that's something he can do in his bedroom if he wants.  I do object when he grabs for it straight after his morning nappy is taken off though and have to watch what I say so "dirty" doesn't come out in the wrong way.  I now say, just let mummy clean you up first rather than don't touch it because it's dirty. 

Judy, how do your arms reach the keyboard when you're nursing?  I'd love to see a photo, but of course I guess you're all out there as well ( :oops: )?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 15, 2005, 20:11:39 pm
Nikki I don't have a pic of me feeding and typing... maybe I'll have to get dh to take one soon.  He's up at the cottage this weekend - I'm sure Zoe would be happy to try but it takes about 20 attempts before she gets everything wanted in the picture.  LOL.  Here though is a pic of me with K&H sitting on the nursing pillow after feeding... you can see my arms are just long enough... basically I put the chair as close to the desk as I can (their heads just at the edge of the desk) and then have the keyboard on the edge of the desk so I can just reach.  Often though now Sarah and Zoe want to play their DORA game or type themselves so I then have Sarah sitting on what space is left by my knees and Zoe standing beside me doing their thing.  :)

Traci naps - yes I too, just get the girl(s) up if they aren't seeming to be ready to go to sleep.   I might pop in a few times but if it's not really helping once I leave then I just get them up.  In fact Hannah is on my lap now since Kaia wanted to sleep but Hannah wanted to chat and carry on.  Of course NOW she's tired almost an hour later and Kaia is likely to be waking soon so I don't really want to put Hannah in there as surely it will disturb Kaia at this stage in her nap.... hmmmm
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 15, 2005, 20:13:30 pm
:roll:  :oops:  :roll:  oh yeah - the pic
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 15, 2005, 20:15:00 pm
traci-what i meant by I get her up is sometimes she simply needs to snuggle. I don't let het play but I will hold her like an extra wind down time. Riley mostly does it in the day though, but there have been times at night and we pick her up, hold her and she goes right back to sleep in our arms, maybe she just needs a little reassurance when she does this. HTH
judy- I wish I looked as good as you do after having 4, and I have only had 2 and am all extra blubber.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 15, 2005, 20:22:44 pm
JUDY-Fab photo. I often wondered how you fed and typed at the same time..now I get it! Good job we are women and can multi task!
NIKKI-You are right, Sam only went poops once a week or 10 days..how I miss those days. He now goes once a day..does not appear to be straining too hard although I definitely know when he is going as he grunts lol. Have contemplated putting him on the potty, might go and get one this weekend. He seems to go at the same time everyday..after his morning BF!
TRACI-Thank you for clearing up the confusion about Cole's age. I was sooo confused and kept staring at the calender last night. I also go by calender months so Sam will be 6 months next week.
That means that he will be 6.5 months when I go back to work, ANKIE. Clueless as I was, I said that I only wanted 6 months off. I was really the career woman way back when but now the thought of going back to work makes me sad! :(
Have a great weekend all.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 15, 2005, 20:51:32 pm
Karen, can you extend out your maternity leave to the full 12mths?  I did that with Nathan since I was originally going to go back when he was 9mths old.  Thanks for the info re pooping.  I think it's a great idea to put him over the potty since he's so regular - would save cleaning a mucky bum (just have to clean a mucky potty instead :wink: ).  Will also get him used to the concept - in the book Tracy has a plan for starting at 9mths anyway.

Judy, great pic.  They're just adorable!  BTW, are the twins identical?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 15, 2005, 20:57:55 pm
Traci-Taylor has started to touch her privates as well!  I know it's totally normal and all, but it is still funny to see :lol:   
We tried the sippy cup with T for a couple of days now but has no idea what to do with it...so I guess I will just keep trying.  I have been putting water in it because they say once they start eating solids, they should drink water afterwards... :?: anyone else doing this religiously?
and yes, it is so painful to hear them do the mamamamama thing!  When we're in the same situation like you were last night, we do just stay close by for "moral support" as DH calls it (he's so cute!), but we just have to let her figure it out basically. 

Judy-great pciture!!!
And Naomi, Jayson is such a doll!  love the slicker :)

Welcome Emi and Roz :D

Gotta get ready for a wedding tonight.  I swear I feel so bad taking Taylor out so much lately, but if I leave her at home for MIL to babysit tonight, my family would have a caniption!

Bye for now!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 15, 2005, 21:10:37 pm
OK, my last post for now  :oops: ...DH is wanting the computer.

I also offer the sippy of water after Danielle's had her lunch (well her half cracker LOL).  It's just a free-flow one at the moment without a valve.  It's taken her a few days to figure out to suck on it, but if I tip it up and down a few dribbles come out.  I think Nathan was 8mths before he properly got the hang of drinking water.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 15, 2005, 21:25:33 pm
my last post for today too! :oops:

I forgot to tell you all I found this great site for nursery rhymes (I couldn't remember all the verses to the ants go marching so did a google search)

http://www.zelo.com/family/nursery/index.asp
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 15, 2005, 21:30:29 pm
Naomi!!!!  That picture is too funny!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 15, 2005, 21:35:51 pm
Quote from: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle
Judy, great pic.  They're just adorable!  BTW, are the twins identical?

Nikki to be honest I don't know.  One dr. told me there was a 15% chance they are identical (being as they were in sep sacs with sep placentas) and another dr. told me there was a 5% chance.  They have the same blood type which is all they tested/told me of after delivery.  The one dr. assumed not since he felt the chance to only be 5% BUT there was only a 1-3% chance of us conceiving twins in the first place!  I guess if we wanted to know for sure we'd have to have dna testing done and we'd have to pay for it -which is about $500-800.

So far we're finding that they look a lot alike.  Each has their own birthmark which is how we tell them apart for certain.  There have been times I've been bathing one, calling her Kaia, only to discover at the end that it was Hannah.  Their cries are even the same.  I cannot tell you who is crying if I'm not in the room.  Kaia will sometimes wake up chatting so then I can guess that the chatting baby in the nursery is Kaia.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: jay&danny'smummy on October 15, 2005, 21:44:31 pm
Hello!

Thank you for the warm welcome Naomi, Traci, Nikki & Andrea! :)

I just know it wont be long before Jay will be pulling at his bits...boys!!
At the moment he is more interested in sucking his toes!! :lol:

I have been giving Jay water since he has been fully on formula (from 8 weeks). He has it when he wakes from naps & with his solids. Im using one of those bottles that is in between a bottle & sippy cup. He is just managing to use it when laying back slightly. Think I will try to introduce a sippy cup soon as they are easier to handle.

Naomi I love the photos of Jayson there great!

Emi

jaysmummy

DOB 24/04/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 15, 2005, 22:38:23 pm
Thanks so much for the welcome ladies!

I've also started Sol on a sippy cup.  We started solids about 2 1/2 weeks ago @ 5 mnths cause he was waking up frequently during the night. His night wakings stopped but he promptly went on a bottle stike.  (I mostly breastfeed but pump bottles for DH when i'm out w/ the girls or at school)

I went to a Moms' group in our community and asked what I could do about the strike and the nurse there suggested a sippy cup but excusively.  I had my doubts but offered it to him.  He mainly likes to chew on the end when he holds it himself but will drink from it if I tip it for him.
I'm happy to say he did take the bottle again.  I didn't see how he could get a full BM feed from a sippy cup!?!

My little guy likes to pull at his peeber too.  Usually when he first gets into the tub.  i'm always checking if the water is too warm and he's protecting his valueables!  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 15, 2005, 23:11:34 pm
Hi everyone

Welcome Emi and Roz!  Peeber - what a great 'term'.

Naomi and Judy great pics - way too cute. 

traci - I bought Sophie a sippy cup and she plays with it more than drinks out of it but I also got her detachable handles for her bottles so she is getting the idea.

Because it is so hot here I have been giving Sophie water from the get go - breastmilk and all.

Sorry if I am forgetting anyone but I am sitting here fighting tears.  I am soo exhausted with work and had a huge fight with dh; last night after I had been at work for 11.5 hours on 4 hours sleep and had just bathed, got Sophie to bed ect... he lookes at me and asked me what was up with dinner ( i had not got around to it duh...) :twisted: , not to mention I feel like Sophie takes a minute to get to know me lately and today reached for the nanny when I was holding her :cry:

Ok, i am now crying not fighting the tears - thanks for listening and i should pull myself together for bath time

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 15, 2005, 23:25:01 pm
Big hugs to u Richelle!

Sometimes the DHs just don't get it!...   :x

I can't tell you how to feel about the nanny, but  try not to feel guilty. 
It's so hard for Moms cause they get to feel inadequate if they stay home and give up a career AND if they go back to work and leave their los.

 So no matter what the situation, there will always be an oppurtunity for you to feel badly.  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 15, 2005, 23:28:59 pm
Richelle-Hugs to you.  My dh says that to me, I am a SAHM get plenty of sleep and lose it all of the time.  Hope you are feeling better.
My name is Macaire and I have been a lurker for some time now.  I posted a while ago about constipation and didn't get a response so feeling strange I decided just to read!  I have a 6 1/2 month old, Ben who is a textbook/angel.  I had a terrible time with breastfeeding for the first 7 weeks along with some PPD.  Didn't really realize it until my DH stated that he was concerned about my frequent sobbing on the toilet.  I read BW while I was pregnant and we implemented it at around 5 weeks although we are lax.  I have been married for 3 1/2 years and we were together for 3 years before that.  I am working 1 day a week as a mentor teacher to two elementary teachers and I tutor inside my home a few days a week.  I am going to do my best to stop the lurking and contribute.  You guys have given me tons of support and laughs.  I have been trying the sippie cup for a few weeks.  He sucked once at the beginning and now just plays with it, the doc said to keep trying and eventually he will get it.  Maybe I will take out the flow device.  Ben started solids 2 weeks ago and went from poops 2-3 times a day to 1 every 2 days.  The doc said it was fine as long as it isn't hard.  The poor fella gets red in the face with lots of grunts.  I look forward to getting to know you all.
Macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 16, 2005, 00:28:54 am
Welcome Emi, Roz and Macaire!

Traci... Arwyn is EBF and would not take a bottle. So, we started training her to take a cup from when she was 4 months. The one we have has thin handles so she can grab it and she has got the hang of drinking now... there is little spillage and she recognizes her cup and what is in it. I gave EBM exclusively until she learned how to use it and now, once in a while when I don't have any EBM, I put in water.

I wouldn't recommend starting both solids and a sippy cup at once though. It is so very foreign to eat something new and then drink something new. IMHO, do one thing at a time so that Cole can get used to it.

We also have a collection of "real" sippy cups but Arwyn just gums them. She doesn't take a bottle so she has no idea that she has to suck (or doesn't know how from a strange object). Also, have you tried to suck liquid from one of those sippy cups with a valve? Both DH and I tried before giving one to Arwyn... it is HARD to do!

Richelle... {{{{Hugs}}}} to you. DHs just don't get it and you are not alone. My DH does stuff like that all the time... makes you want to throw a full on tantrum and then leave. Too bad we can't huh? :roll:

Naomi... love the picture. Isn't that just so cool that they can do uninhibited things like that? Us grown ups on the other hand, can be way to practical. :wink:

Judy... great picture! I love the matching outfits! I can sort of picture how you feed both your girls but to accommodate Sarah on your knees too? I would just give up and let her have the chair!

Roz... you are right. It would take FOREVER to give a full feed via a cup or sippy cup. I think Arwyn is pretty good at it and it still takes us forever to give 2 oz. Where in Vancouver are you? We should meet up one day!

Have a great rest of the weekend everyone!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 16, 2005, 00:35:05 am
Ugh... forgot who asked about the playing when supposed to be napping thing.

Arwyn can distract herself and "play" with whatever is in her crib. Her lovey, her sleeping blanket, her quilt... her hands, etc. What we now have to do is put her in her sleeping position on her tummy which makes her cry immediately... HOLD her down firmly...  and then pat/shush. If I then stop, she will cry, roll over, and proceed to amuse herself with something and then smile at me. I feel so bad, forcing her to cry before going to sleep but this is the only way she can sleep now. I used to have an independent sleeper who could put herself to bed from awake in 5 minutes. Now, I need to help her. I think she is more able to fight sleep now that she is older and has more control (and will). I need to do this for every nap and every evening. I hope this too, will pass but for now, I just accept that this is the way she needs to go to sleep.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 16, 2005, 01:08:44 am
(((Hugs))) Richelle.  DHs are clueless on the best of days...but to make a comment like that after a long day of work and little sleep the night before  :evil:   When I was pregnant my DH thought he'd be getting a gourmet meal every night once we had the baby.  You know, in all my spare time. Boy, has he changed his tune!

I was the one who asked about what to do when your little one wants to play.  It's not during naps but nighttime.  Well, it DID happen for nap today because DH put him down for the first time without me here and it just didn't work.  He missed the last crucial step of wind down though...but I digress.  It happens if he wakes to feed at 3:30am...he'll stay up until 5.  Or last night he woke after the first 45 minutes screaming...then didn't settle for another hour or so.  I was so stressed tonight hoping he wouldn't wake at the 45 min. mark and he didn't. phew.

Starting cereal tomorrow.  I gave him a spoon today to try out while in his high chair and he seemed to like putting it in his mouth.  I'll give a full report with possible photo in the morning.

Thanks for all the sippy cup reports.  I think I will wait a little while.  At least a couple of weeks to see how he takes to the solids first.  If he jumps right in without issues then I'll try the cup.

I'm going to watch Nip/Tuck.  Anyone watch?  I love this show :D

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: busymom on October 16, 2005, 02:04:10 am
Hi Everyone,

I thought I'd introduce myself since I've spent the last ten minutes reading this thread. 

My name is Lori.  I live in Toronto, Canada with my dh and 2 girls.  We have been married for 4 years, and together for 12.  My beautiful daughters are 24 months old, and 4.5 months old.  Sarah was born in September 2004, and Hailey at the end of May.  I am at home until June.  My lo has been a difficult baby- touchy/grumpy with terrible reflux.  Had to hold her to get any sleep for the first 3 months.  She would not sleep in her crib, and would not sleep or nap unless held, which I swore I would never do.  Tried everything Tracy suggested, but could not get her to do it.  Eventually moved her into an amby hammock, where she sleeps at night (requring a lot of soothing to sleep), but she does not sleep well and will not nap unless held and toted around the house all day.  We are trying to sort out her reflux meds, and hope that things will improve from there. 

Anyhow,  just wanted to say hi and introduce myself.  I stumbled across this site by accident when I was trying to find answers for why my baby would not eat- prior to her being diagnosed with reflux.  Since then it has been such a huge source of support for me, and a break from the daily stresses of being a SAHM.

Take care,
Lori
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 16, 2005, 02:10:52 am
Big welcomes to all the new gals!!  :D  :D

Richelle big hugs!  On the nanny thing - I know it really breaks your heart that your lo reached out for the nanny.  I remember my oldest putting up a huge fuss when we had to leave the babysitter's when I was working before the twins were born.  BUT I kept reminding myself that that was a whole lot better than leaving them there hysterical.  It would be more heartwrenching to have them heartbroken that you were leaving them everyday.  On the bright side she likes her nanny and that is really good.  No one can replace mommy!  Just not possible. 

As for dh and his dinner comment  :evil:   I say have making dinner a real hit or miss so he learns to stop expecting it.  :lol:   THEN he'll be more appreciative on the nights you do make it. 

Ankie the cup you give Arwyn - is it an open cup?  I gave Zoe a sippy with water in it when we started solids.  Took a long time before she started really using it (a good month or more) but just put water in it everyday for her to play with or drink.  Sarah I gave bottles till well after a year because I wasn't sure how I felt about the sippy cup - have read it has some negative potential in the way it works the mouth/tongue muscles and speech (actually my niece has a speech problem and her therapsit suggested it was from the sippy building the tongue muscles while flat - but she used them for a long time too).  My older girls were both using regular open cups by - hmmm, I don't know, Sarah just turned two... it's been a LONG time - can't remember when we started but it took a while to be less messy :)  She did eventually use sippies too though for morning milk.  Sarah was such (was?  IS) a scavenger that she took to the sippy very easily since it was someone else's :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 16, 2005, 02:14:01 am
Hi everyone. Welcome to the 'newbys', and those who have observed but not posted. Sorry, this could be long.....

I've been a bit busy the last couple of days, and haven't been able to catch up with everyone until now. Wow, it's busy busy busy here!

I'm Hayley, will be 34 yrs old in 2 days time  :cry: have one son, Daniel who was born 11 April 2005. I think he's textbook with a bit of Angel and Touchy, which if I recall correctly is Cole too. I've noticed that Cole & D often go through similar things, so perhaps it's due to their personalities.

I live on an airforce base in New Zealand. Hubby is in the airforce. We've been married 20 months and together about 6 years. Prior to becoming a SAHM I worked as an executive assistant for the CEO of an investment company. I plan on going back about 10hours per week in March/April next year but not working exclusively for him, just doing whatever is needed, possibly even looking after the marketing side of things which I'd really enjoy.

I've got to share my great news with you in regards to Daniel. As you all know we've had lots of sleeping dramas with him. Well, we've now had 3 nights sleeping from about 6.30pm - 6am without feeding/waking. Last night he did wake for a quick feed, but we'd had a really messy day as we were out so he didn't feed properly. I"m so happy he's now sleeping thru, mostly.

Also Daniel's naps have sorted themselves out. He's onto his 2nd 2 hour nap for the day. I'm thinking I should go and wake him so he doesn't sleep too much! Although a lot of mums find that solids don't help their LO's, for us it has definitely made a difference. Daniel's now eating 3 good sized meals and b/feeding well too. I think it was dropping the cluster bf at 5pm and making that his dinner time meant he is now taking a much bigger feed right before bed, and that's why he's sleeping thru, I"m sure of it.

Now, what was it I wanted to comment on......

Richelle, hang in there, cry as much as you need to, we're here for you.

Tracy, how's the crawling going? Have you had to child proof the house yet?

Emi, Daniel prefers his toes to anything else right now too! Makes for great photos don't you think!?!

Judy, you must be looking forward to the games the girls are going to play, like pretending they're each other!  :lol:  :roll:  :lol:

As for the sippy cup, I've tried Daniel on one with a valve, but might take the valve out and see if we have more luck.

Enough from me, I'll have to keep up so I don't have 5 pages to read next time!

Thanks again everyone for your stories, suggestions and help. It's always great to come on here and find out what you and your LO's are up to.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 16, 2005, 02:43:54 am
Welcome to everyone new.  I am relatively new myself, so it's good to have company. 

Andrea-thanks for the link to the nursery rhymes.  I JUST said to dh the other day...I am so sick of the itsy bitsy spider and the wheels on the bus...I need new material.  This is great.  I am going to go check it out as soon as I am done posting.

Naomi- that picture was hysterical! I love it. It reminded me that we are always telling Brendan to stay OUT of the puddles when it rains...how awful of us, we need to let him let loose!

Judy- fun to see a pic of you too and your two.  I have been wishing that I had a hands free pumping set up so that I could type while pumping, since I do it sooo much, but at least I can read...

Speaking of pics, did anyone see the pic of the little girl who fell asleep on the coffee table?  I wish I could tell you which forum it was in, but I cannot remember.  Maybe someone else who's seen it can lead the others there.  It is pure comedy. lol.

Ankie- I am wondering also, was it an open cup that you taught Arwyn to use?  wow.  I would really like to do that!  It just seems that they have to lean so far back to take anything from a cup.  I like the idea of taking the valve out...I too have tried to suck from one of those and it is NOT easy..some are however easier than others.

Richelle richelle richelle!!!!  I am so sorry.  I have been seriously wanting to vent the last few days about my dh...They really don't get it sometimes.  I don't want to appear to be a basher but...maybe this will make you feel better.  Here is a snapshot of my house today.  We are gone all afternoon taking Brendan to his indoor soccer game (useless!).  Sophie has had no afternoon nap because she basically won't sleep anywhere anymore EXCEPT her crib (be careful what you wish for ladies)  She also is about an hour or more late for her late aft. feeding and fed horribly during her first two feedings of the day, so I know she's hungry...and mommy dearest (that would be me) forgot her bottle of EBM!!!!  So we stop at Babies R us pick up formula, pears and bottles.  Well, dh doesn't want to buy bottles, he wants to buy another sippy cup..."we can just feed her the formula with that"  right!  Uh, hello...have you EVER seen her drink more than a drop from a sippy cup?  (I wanted to say) well she's not going to start now...but I held my tongue, not wanting to make him feel disrespected in the whole baby rearing process and just made a case for having the bottles for an emergency. 
So anyhow, we are on our way home, after she had refused the formula, ate a ton of pears and didn't sleep a wink.  She was so obviously exhausted and overstim. All I can think about is of course getting home so that she can eat and sleep. Plus I am starving having not eaten lunch and only a couple of pieces of toast for breakfast.    So I suggest that we stop and I run in and get a few bagels etc, knowing there's not much a home....he kind of shrugs and says oh that's ok, WE can make something when WE get home....well, as you ladies probably understand, WE, meaning ME was going to be very busy when we got home trying to feed and nap a very tired very hungry baby, not to mention i needed to pump badly having not done so since morning....so WE were not going to just get around to making something for at least an hour or two!  And I was starving.  So, it feels really good to vent.  Sophie, thankfully ate and went down easy.  I pumped (and had to beg for a little computer time to read while I did it) then I went to the grocery store and made dinner.  Which he scarfed down in seconds and announced that WE could clean up later!!!!!! (he did actually just clean up...I have to give him a little credit) but it's just that they just don't GET it, and you just can;t keep educating them, they take it too personally. Ugh.  DIdn't realize how badly I needed to get that off of my chest.  I am usually so good at communicating these things to him, but I lately feel like I just don;t know where to start!  I think he's a little jealous of me coming here.  BTW
Anyhow, Richelle, don't know if that helped you, but it helped me. thanks

 :)
I can't remeber who said it but it is so true, you are the mom, there is no substitute. Not now, not ever.  She loves you above all else.  You have the most primal bond.  She was Inside of your body!!! No one can trump that wild card baby!

Oh, and by the way, I loved your joke in your intro..Hi my name is Hannah and I am a Baby whisperer...I really feel like I need to do that now!!

As always.  This is wonderful. 
BTW---so glad I have a girl...no peeber (?) to keep track of  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 16, 2005, 03:02:27 am
Quote from: sophieandhannah
Speaking of pics, did anyone see the pic of the little girl who fell asleep on the coffee table?  I wish I could tell you which forum it was in, but I cannot remember.  Maybe someone else who's seen it can lead the others there.  It is pure comedy. lol.

 :lol:  :lol:  Oh you mean the practically naked kid on the coffee table?  Yup, that's my Sarah Bear!  :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 16, 2005, 03:15:28 am
Oh my gosh!!! That makes it even funnier!  I LOVE it!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 16, 2005, 03:36:48 am
man this thread moves fast!!!  i was lurking this morning and came back tonight to 3 more pages!!

It took me 3 different types of sippy cups and about 2 weeks of trying to get Jack to use one.....the free flow ones were too fast, the ones with the valve were too hard to suck (he'd just chew on it), and now i've finally found one that is kindof a cross between a bottle and a sippy cup.  The spout is made out of silicone (like his bottles) and then the end is indented and has about 4 slits in it.  It was a little tricky for him to get used to the indented end but now he will drink formula or juice out of it.

I asked about who was brushing their LO's teeth cause I was wondering if that was why Jack was such a good eater???  (We've been brushing since he was 4 months) Maybe he is used to different sensation in his mouth rather than just the bottle?  Just a thought for some of you that are having some difficulties with solids.

Naomi- I LOVE that pic of Jayson!!!  LOL!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 16, 2005, 05:34:05 am
Oh boy, I don't drop in for a day and all of a sudden there is a new thread, 6 pages of posts and new mums joining in to boot!  Welcome to all the recent arrivals, we are glad you have come to join us.

My quick overview (before my little man demands food)-

I'm 29, married to Brett for 6 years next week, together for 10.  Fraser Jeremy is my first (and last! - see earlier post!) child.  He is grumpy/touchy with reflux and so the last 6 months or so have been pretty exhausting.  But he's lovely and although I often think about selling him for a profit  :lol:  :lol: (don't know if I'd get much!) I am so glad I decided to become a mum.

I work full time and DS stays home with DH who is studing to become a teacher (a rather common theme on this board!).

I'd love to tell you more but someone is demanding some food - I will pop back later and say hi again and give you our latest update  :roll: More on that later!!

Cheers!
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 16, 2005, 06:08:34 am
Judy that is HILARIOUS!!! :lol:   how in the world did she end up falling asleep up there?  was she jsut playing up therre and then passed out?  and the fact that Hannah brought it up and it was your kid makes it even funnier!

Hayley congrats on the good nights!

And Richelle and Hannah, I hope you feel better after venting  :)   feel free to do it anytime. 

Didn't I say earlier that I was posting for the last time today? :roll:  :wink:   I just can't stay away from you ladies!  DH is definitely jealous! :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 16, 2005, 06:15:46 am
Hannah, I notice on your ticker that you have written 'Sophia' with an A, yet you refer to her as Sophie. May I be so bold as to ask why? I love the name Sophie and so have taken interest in the different spellings. Very clever having their photos on the tickers too.

Does anyone else have issues with feeding in the highchair? Daniel often won't take much food in the h/chair but will happily continue eating if I sit him on the bench. :? Strange......

Gotta go DH just cooked dinner.  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 16, 2005, 07:13:10 am
Welcome Macaire!  :D

Andrea, my DH gave up a long time ago being jealous.  :lol: 

Judy, that is so funny with Sarah falling asleep on the table.

Well I forgot to put Danielle down for a catnap this afternoon - she was all over the place today, she had a big 2.5hr nap this morning since Nathan woke her early at 6.15am, then only 30mins at 1.45pm and then we got busy outside playing etc that I looked at the clock at 5pm and realised she hadn't been put down and was starting to rub her eyes, so after putting her to bed for a catnap, she chatted for 15mins and then got cranky.  Still, she managed to be up and happy until her 7pm bedtime - CRAZY!  I hope it doesn't make tonight too bad.  She's gone onto having a 2am waking now, strange, still I haven't got the nerve yet to work on it, I just feed her for about 2-3mins and pop her back in bed after a few protests of being taken off the boob.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 16, 2005, 13:52:58 pm
Hi Everyone,

We had a good night.  phew.  I needed a good night.  Cole slept from 6:15-6:15 with feeds at 10 and 4.  He woke at 2 something and 3 something and went back to sleep both times :)   And he went right back to sleep after both feeds.  I have been trying to reduce his time at the breast for the middle of the night feed and I don't think he was liking it too much and that's why he was staying awake.  He still fed at 6:30 am, not as much but that's okay.  I figure the 4 am feed will soon become the 6am feed anyway.

Cereal went very very well this morning!  He loved it.  He gagged himself on the spoon once when he grabbed it out of my hand though.  We got it on tape and it's kind of funny really.  I'm so mean.  Here are a couple of pics of the big event.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/firstfeeda.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/firstfeedwithspoona.jpg)

Lori-I returned your PM.  You are welcome to chat here with us obviously...but there is also an April/May chat that you may find more helpful as the los will be closer in age to your Hailey (did I remember her name??)

One thing I remember about the posts...Hayley I think it was-Cole is crawling and climbing like crazy.  Can't sit still.  I bought a gate yesterday and DH is intalling it today.  I have moved our coffee table to the wall and stacked pillows against it for now.  It's wood and has sharp corners.  His bumbo and a basket of toys/books block the fireplace (some sharpish edges on the venting).  Other than that the room is pretty safe.  Just gotta get out some electrical plug covers...but the only one that's exposed is behind the coffee table.

gotta run...hear him fussing.

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 16, 2005, 15:08:47 pm
Hayley-quick note.  Ben had no problems at the beginning eating in the high chair.  I went away for the weekend and came back to screaming in the high chair.  What did my DH do?!  I have been feeding him for the last week in a bouncy chair where he sits up all of the way and he is eating solids well in it.  He sits in his high chair when we eat dinner and has finger rice foods and plays a little with a toy.  I know this may cause some bad habits but I am trying to break him back in.
Macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 16, 2005, 17:25:03 pm
Hello and good morning!

About the sippy cup... yes, it is an open cup with thin handles. We bought it at IKEA and it is great. It doesn't have those screw on threads when you take the lid off... it looks just like a cup. When we started a cup, Arwyn wanted to stick her tongue INSIDE the cup to lap up the milk. We just kept correcting it and now, all is fine but it still takes a long time to get her to drink more than ~ 1oz. Usually, after every meal, she gets half to a full oz. of EBM or water. Sometimes she will refuse it and sometimes she reaches for her cup.

Macaire... don't worry about finger foods and stuff... everything I read says to let them explore (I don't like the messiness but  :roll: ) and it will get Ben used to the highchair again. I don't understand what you mean by him sitting up all the way in his bouncy chair? Our highchair can sit up all the way but the bouncy chair reclines all the way.

Traci... we are having the same thing happen during the night as you are experiencing with Cole. Arwyn wakes up in the middle of the night now and has wanted to play for the past 2 nights. Like I said, I just put her in her sleeping position and try to pat her back to sleep. Last night though, she didn't cry but screamed and then rolled over, perfectly happy to amuse herself. So... I left her alone to putter and started to pump... less than 10 minutes later, she started to cry so I pat her to sleep. I don't know why she can't sleep without crying these days :cry: .

Great pics of Cole, BTW!

Hayley... CONGRATS on sleeping through the night! Good job, Daniel!

Judy... great picture! I love it. I remember seeing it before and you saying that you told your girls many times to get off the coffee table  :D .

Well, here is my vent about DH... It is Sunday morning over here and Arwyn gets up at 7:30 am (trying to prepare for the time change... she normally gets up at 6:30) and I change and feed her by 8 am. I pull her into our bed and she plays for about 30 minutes. I ask DH to please get up with her... so... he says, "Baby Einstein it is!" :roll:

I fall back asleep and wake up to Arwyn's hungry scream/shout (and Baby Einstein in the background)... I mutter from the bedroom to feed her breakfast because she should have eaten by 9 (currently 9:15)... sometime later, he asks, what should I feed her for breakfast?... sometime later, should I add cereal? At 9:30 (read... nap time), I realize that she is fussing because she is sleepy... I mutter again from the bedroom that she is tired and that she needs to have a nap. I say this twice and then DH tells me to SHUT UP! At this point, I get up and am headed to the bathroom where she is being changed and he slams the door shut! She has a minor meltdown during her diaper change, DH puts her down at 9:50 and then that's that. BUT, my point was that she is now HOW OLD?... We have been taking naps for HOW LONG?... We have been eating solids for HOW MANY WEEKS?... Has he not been listening to me tell him about our day and our routine? Flew right by his thick head, I tell ya! :roll: And then when I comment, he tells me to shut up???

Anyway, all is calm now and she should be down for 1hr 30 min to 2 hours. Dare I wish that she gets up at the 45 min. mark to teach him a lesson? When I mentioned that she doesn't sleep long if she is overtired, he just replies, well, I'll just get her back to sleep! GOOD FOR YOU!

AHHHH... feels good to vent!

Happy Sunday everybody!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 16, 2005, 17:52:48 pm
well I had to pop on and say Hi to everyone, the regulars , the newbies and everyone else who watches at how fast this thread goes!!!
We are trying to get back on track from having colds.
 For some reason everyone got sick except for me. I have no idea how it happened, I am just extremely grateful.
Riley is sorta back on her routine, but her appetite is up and down so her feed are erratic, the naps and A time are on track though, so I guess I have 2/3 of it down pat.
I am trying to keep up with the soilds, cereal is a go, at lunch we try veggies, but she seems to like them mixed together, I tired peas and carrots seperately, not too fussy on them, but together, well it was hard to keep up with her. I wonder, could this be a bonus from her being bf, with all the flavour in my milk in together. I have no idea what bm tastes like, but the idea behind it sounds good :D .
Well I can't really complain about dh, he is a rare breed my man, he tries his best to go along with the routine, but it seems like most men he needs a little coaxing as to what needs to be done by when etc.
Thanks for the comments on Jay, he is really starting to become his own little man, it is facinating to watch.
Jo, I just wanted to say one thing about you not wanting anymore, JMO tho okay, I had a really rough time with Jay, colic and reflux together, very touchy baby, still is in a way. Riley couldn't be further from him, she is relaxed, angel, no reflux or colic and bf since she was about 1/2hr old, no latch issues at all which is what I had with Jay. I just wanted to say that, but I respect your choice, raising children is never easy at the best of times, let alone with all that you have had going on lately.


Okay everyone, seems we are having crappy dh days and such stuff, I fugured we could all gather around, closer, arms around each other,
okay here goes......
{{{{{{{SQUEEZE, GROUP HUG!!!}}}}}}}
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 16, 2005, 19:13:39 pm
Goodmorning from NZ. And what a beautiful day it is here so far. Yay, I think summer might really be coming.

My great news from yesterday, turned into not so great news. Daniel woke again last night. So that's 3 sleeping thru, 2 not! :cry: I thought it was just that he hadn't eaten so well on Saturday but yesterday he took 4 b/f really well and his solids, but he still woke at midnight. mmmm same time as the night before, what's going on there?? He did sleep for 4 hours naps thou, so whether that was part of the problem. 2 x 2 hour naps, all by himself, no encouragement, nothing different. Which ofcourse, I thought was fantastic and so nice, but not if it impacts on his nights. Oh well, I shall see what today and tonight brings.

Just when we think we've got them sorted out........ they go and change the rules on us.  :oops:  :?  :D

Ankie and all of you who are having DH problems, hang in there, someone suggested on another forum I'm involved in that the book we can get here on Raising Boys is very insightful for understanding your husbands too. Maybe we should all go and read it!

Naomi, good to see Riley is getting back to normal after her cold, and that she's enjoying cereal. It's nice when you can see they really enjoy the food, rather than just eating it.

Macaire, thanks for your comment on the highchair. I'm doing a bit of that sort of thing too. Not pushing the h/chair issue, but when Daniel will sit in it happily and eat it's great, but when he gets fussy I'll take him out. I wondered if he didn't relate the h/chair to eating because I always used to put him in there when I was in the kitchen with his toys. I like the idea of you putting Ben in there when you're eating though.

Traci, had to giggle about the taping of Cole gagging. Videoing eating is a great idea. Love the pics.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 16, 2005, 20:01:07 pm
Okay, so finally, here's a photo of Daniel and me, and one by himself which I love.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 16, 2005, 20:25:08 pm
Hayley-I love the pics!  It looks like such a nice day.  Was that recently?

It's so yucky here in Toronto.  Winter will soon be upon us :oops:

It will be fun to see Cole during the first snowstorm though :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 16, 2005, 20:28:45 pm
Good to see a pic of you Hayley!  :D   Yay for the sunny weather - we even brought a blow up pool yesterday since we missed out last year and Nathan was running around in the nudey having a great time.

I think I am mostly fortunate on the DH front too, he sticks to the routine, but I need to remind and remind where we're at since things change so fast.  Of course sometimes I forget that I'm coming here and getting fresh ideas and to me it becomes second nature and I wonder why he's not getting it. :lol:  :roll: 

I also put Danielle in the highchair at our meal times even if she's not eating - although she's now having a little at both lunch and dinner now. 

Hayley, it's frustrating isn't it when you think the nights are getting better - after our 2 sleep throughs last week I thought we might have cracked it, but then the wakings started to creep in closer to midnight again.  Although last night she was back to 3.30am which has been a long time since she's done 8.5hrs straight (not including the sleep throughs).
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 16, 2005, 20:32:16 pm
Hello all,  I've been reading your posts for a while now and they have been so helpful.  It seems whenever I have a question, there is someone talking about the same thing.  So now that you have some newcomers, I thought I'd throw myself in.

My name is Jessica.  I'm 32, married to Eric for 4 years.  Claire is our first baby.  Born on April 19th.  I think someone else's baby shares the same birthday?  I was a kindergarten teacher for 7 years.  DH is working hard (bless him) so that I can stay home with Claire.  I do substitute teach about 6 days a month.  Not much, but it helps us afford a few extras :D !  I love being a mom, but it is the most difficult thing I have ever done.  I read BW when she was about 1.5 months old and started getting really cranky in the evenings.  I realized that she wasn't sleeping enough in the day.  Sleep training was really tough and we are still working on some problems, but I'm so grateful for having found the book and this forum.  I knew nothing about what babies need and I truly believe that she is such a great kid today because of the guidance I got from BW.
It is so nice to "meet" you all! :D

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 16, 2005, 20:53:31 pm
HI there Jessica.
Girls it was such a good idea to start this new thread, look at all the new people we have met already!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 16, 2005, 20:57:50 pm
Naomi you're fab - thanks for the group hug!! :)

Ankie, my dh can get like that at times... somehow it's always my fault though of course!  :roll:   He once told me to shutup...  which to be honest is completely NOT like him - he's the least confrontational person I've ever met... but still it ticked me off!  I think I replied with a very curt "do NOT talk to me like that!"  (in about the same tone I'd use with the girls!)  Sleep deprivation - it makes people irritable.

as for the pic of Sarah - those monkeys!!  They fall asleep just about anywhere.  They don't want to nap anymore but they get tired by the end of the day and can pass out in moments when I turn my back to change the babies.  I've even tried standing Sarah up to wake her up - she just keeps on  sleeping!  I've got lots of funny pics - some good scrapbooking pages coming (just as soon as I find time for THAT!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 16, 2005, 21:16:16 pm
Hi again.  Hey Jesica, I'm a newbie too!

DH and I almost got into it today after a few weeks a trying REALLY hard to respect each other.  We've definetly had our ups and downs.

  There's lots of repeating instructions around this house as well.  It's like DH enters some type of time warp when he goes to work during the week and completely forgets how things function on weekends.

I hear you Ankie!  I live right downtown off of Beach Ave.  I grew up in Burnaby and my Mum lives close to Patterson Station so I'm up there all the time.  I agree, we should meet!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 16, 2005, 22:21:22 pm
Hey everyone,

I hear you guys on the DH front.  Albeit DH is distracted with his exam this coming week it's like he just doesn't listen.  Yesterday he had to put Cole down for nap.  Only the second time I've asked him to, and the first time while I'm not at home.  I specifically said to him TWICE:  He doesn't need as long a wind down as I thought.  A couple verses of You are my sunshine, sit in the glider in the dark for about 30 seconds and say i love you and put him down.

I come home from my relaxing massage and I hear Cole babbling/crying on the monitor 45 minutes after he should have gone down. DH was in there PATTING him.  Told him NOT to pat or shush anymore :twisted:  DH put him down at least 20 minutes late, had sung to him for 10 minutes and didn't sit in the glider at all!  No wonder poor Cole was confused.  I took him out of the room for a few minutes then did a mini windown.  He cried his 10 min. that he does when he's tired and we at least got a 40 min. nap out of him.

Ankie- I wonder what changed with Arwyn's sleep that's causing her to cry every time?  Is she new to sleeping on her tummy and just trying to get used to it?  Hopefully you won't have to pat her much longer.  She'll catch on soon.  Thanks for the tip on the sippy cup.  Maybe I'll head to IKEA this week.  There's always some excuse to go to IKEA!  LOVE that store.

Welcome to our madness Jessica :wink:

gotta go make some dinner.  Doesn't feel like Sunday at all...DH had Friday off to study and he has tomorrow off too!  He writes Tue., Wed, Thurs so I have him all week even though he'll be stressed.  Has to work Friday though as he's used up every last day of vaca for this stupid exam :(

bye

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 16, 2005, 22:26:29 pm
HI newbies and old timers-hope everyone is having a great day!  we are finally getting fall here in Southern California with a little bit of rain!  yay!  it's my favorite time of year :D

we had a pretty good day eventhough we are off routine today.  after the weddign last night we didn't get T to bed until almost 10 (poor thing but she did so well considering the late bedtime; everyone LOVED her!).  So this mornign after she got up at 7 to feed she went right back to sleep and so did DH and I, till 9:30!!!  we were all so tired I guess.  So now all day we have kind of been doing ESA, but oh well, it's workign out okay.

Ankie, OMG about DH saying Shut Up!!!  Give him a swift kick in the bu** for me!   :P

For the most part DH goes very well with BW routine, almost too well though.  Like today since I am feeding and then having her nap, he walks in and says "what are you doing feeding her, you aren't supposed to do that!"...I looked at him like who are you, the BW police?!?!!  leave me and dd alone and go watch football!! :roll:  :wink:   gotta love him though!

BTW, we are still feeding dd in her Bumbo seat...haven't even put the high chair together!  all this highchair talk has made me think we are doing her an injustice and she will be scarred for life!  all kidding aside though, do you think I should break it out???
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on October 16, 2005, 22:36:02 pm
Hello to everyone :)
May as well do an intro too---Good idea to start a new thread so we can all do some catch up reading!
I'm Bianca, Mum to Kyan(Spirited/Touchy) and Sienna(Angel)
Married for 3yrs(pregnant 7 months after wedding :shock: )
My husband David and I are both 29. I work part-time with horses(my sister and I run an education centre)- teaching and training and live about an hour out of Melbourne Vic AUS.
 if anyone is interested in reading about my work check out www.tashanorpark.com .
Found BW when Kyan was around 3 months and loved Tracy's approach, which to me was the most balanced I'd read. I pop in now and then to keep track of you ladies and all your gorgeous babes. But these days Y time is fairly limited...
Take care Bianca
p.s the battle of the 45min nap can be eventually won  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 16, 2005, 23:12:44 pm
Andrea-OMG, I completely forgot that the reason I bought the Bumbo was to feed Cole!  Of course all he does is try to get out of it so I think I'll only try to feed him in it when we're out somewhere.

Also-I think you asked about the Weissbluth book on the old thread.  I have it too and really like it.  Aside from his CIO philosophy of course.  What did you find contradictory other than that?  I think it has great info on age appropriate naps and the importance of sleep in general.

okay, potatoes should be done by now-gotta go eat.

Hey, no one responded before-anyone watch Nip/Tuck??

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 17, 2005, 00:02:08 am
Hi Everyone,

I have been logging on to this website ever since I became obsessed with sleep or should I say lack of !!  I wanted to join in to the last thread but it was so big I felt as if I was 'butting in" so I am happy about this new one and look forward to chatting with everyone.

I am 34 years old and my DH is 31 (yep, toy boy :lol: ) we have been together for 10 years and engaged for 3  :roll: so technically he is not DH but oh well. We have one spririted little girl - in fact I think she should have a personality type of her own - perhaps spirited/crazy???? LOL she is really a handfull !! We also an American Staffy, a red-nose pit bull :roll:  A Thoroughbred mare and recently my Grandfather gave dd a cranky little pony!!  :evil:  :twisted:  (BIANCA - i am interested in your work and I will check out your site later)

I just read through the last 7 pages quickly and loved hearing about everyone and their kids. A few things that stood out -JUDY I really admire you for having FOUR kids - WOW not to metion breastfeeding twins!!! MICKEY- I gasped when I read about you having to recusitate your LO. Close friends of mine went through a similar thing after their bub went missing one day and they found him in the toilet, he was not breathing and had turned blue. He was looking into the toilet and the seat had fallen on to the back of his neck and he couldn't pull it out. Thankfully like your LO he is OK.

We have also just started dd on the water but she doesn't really drink it, just plays with it. I tried adding a tiny bit of pair juice to it but it made no difference. She is going well with the recent introduction of solids but is constipated at the moment. Any suggestions with what to do about it?? Yesterday I didnt give her any solids hoping that just breastmilk would help her go. This morning she had a little bit in her nappy but it was like a tiny little rock!!

I wont go into what we are up to with the sleeping as it would take up a whole page :lol:  :lol: But I will say that without the BW methods it would be much worse !!

Well I have probably raved on enough so thanks to everyone for reading and posting. Hope you are all having a great day.

Bec xx
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 17, 2005, 00:46:46 am
Hi Everyone,

I knew of this new thread but didn't realise it would grow so fast! :shock:

Well this is my introduction about my little family.  My name is Lisa and I have been with my DH (technically we are not married yet, but engaged) for almost 6 years but have known each other for 13.  James is our first (and probably only) baby.  He is a textbook/spirited babe.  We live in Brisbane Queensland and have been in our little home for about 5 years.  We are currently renovating it.  I am a medical secretary with an xray company so I was lucky enough to get lots of ultrasound scans when I was pregnant.  We also have one dog, Smitty, who is 10 years old (the grandfather of the family).  Dh is a cabinetmaker which makes it handy for new kitchens etc.

James is a pretty good baby, loves his solids (3 x meals a day) and is on 4 milk feeds a day.  I have a fantastic pregnancy and the birth wasn't too traumatic.  James was overcooked by 2 days but that was okay because it meant that he wasn't born on April Fool's Day.  The only down side to James is settling, although not as bad as poor Jo with Fraser and some of the others.  Apparently it does get better :? At least he is sleeping through the night which is good.

Glad to finally meet everyone and also all the newbies. 

Talk soon

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 17, 2005, 00:54:57 am
Welcome Bec and Jessica! This thread goes fast... I just posted 8 hours ago... but that was 3 pages ago  :D I love it though... it has been a lifesaver!

Hayley... beautiful picture!

Traci... don't know what changed but Arwyn has been a tummy sleeper pretty much from 1 month old. I think it is developmental... if it is not, I'm afraid I have become a prop.  :roll: I echo Hayley... just when you think you have it all figured out.

Well... DD got up after 45 minutes just like I thought she would. DH forgot the monitor upstairs so I plucked Arwyn out of her crib, marched downstairs and asked, "Were you going to put your daughter back to bed?'... handed her off and proceeded to finish making my breakfast. (You may recall the "I'll just put her back to bed." comment a mere 45 minutes prior!)

So... when I got back from my Tupperware Party (where I spent way too much money)... I got a report that DD went down at 1:26 pm (4 minutes before her naptime) and slept right through... not a peep. He says this with a  :shock: expression on his face. Well... duh... get the window... and this is normally what happens.  :roll:

Don't get me wrong. I have a wonderful DH. I love him dearly and he is a fantastic father. Sometimes, he just doesn't get it... especially why only 5 or 10 minutes makes a big deal. I'm sure he'll get it in time to lecture Arwyn on raising her own kids  :lol: .

Gotta run... ta ta!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 17, 2005, 01:04:53 am
Welcome Bec.  Just wanted to pop on because I remembered a thread on the solid food board regarding constipation.  Here it is. You should find something that will work for your little one.  Good luck. 

http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/your-lo-constipated-try-this-vt37045.html

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 17, 2005, 01:06:43 am
Welcome Bec - as you will have discovered it can be madness on here, but soooo addictive! And it's always nice to meet new mums and bubs. Scary story about the toilet seat. Who would have though that could do damage?

Andrea - sounds like the wedding went very well. You must have been such a proud mum to have Taylor adapting so well.

Traci - a suggestion from me.... if I may be so bold.... Once DH's exam is over could you try asking DH to put Cole down even when you are home. Turn it around a little so that you're not doing it so DH can learn what to do, but say it's so that Cole gets used to DH putting him to bed. I sometimes make sure my DH is holding Daniel near the end of awake time and when I/we realise he's getting grumpy and time for bed I say, "do you want to take him thru?" DH is really good at it because we've done it from early on this way with DH putting him down. It may only be once or twice a week, but it's enough to keep him practiced.

Okay so what is a bumbo????? I've heard you guys refer to them, but have no idea what it is, although it sounds like some kind of seat.

I definitely prefer feeding Daniel in the hi-chair when he'll play by the rules, as I was just at a friends place trying to feed Daniel pumpkin. Well..... what a mess! He ended up with Pkin on the back of his head! I think he had leaned against my arm which had some on, from when he'd put his face against me!  :roll:  :lol: What a mess! Funny though!

I've just tried making my own carrot puree, but not sure what I did wrong. How hard is it to make baby food??? I just couldn't get it to go really smooth. Question: did I not cook the carrots long enough? Or did I need more water or longer puree? Also, similar probelm with kumara (sweet potato) but not quite as bad. Oh well, if Daniel doesn't like them yet, he can have them when he can handle a few lumpy bits. When does that happen anyway? At what stage does the food go from pureed to mashed or squished?

Sorry Traci - don't really watch Nip/Tuck, never really got hooked. Desperate Housewives is another story though! I did the online test as to which housewife I am most like and it came back as Susan. So... what does this tell you all about me???? :lol:  :lol:

Oh, and can't recall who asked, but the photo under the tree was about 2 weeks ago when summer arrived for a week before it left us again. I think it's back though.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 17, 2005, 01:10:38 am
Ankie - just read your post, I had to laugh about when DH will 'get' the timeframe thing.  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 17, 2005, 01:16:43 am
me again, do i ever leave this place!

Hayley-thanks for the reminder about Desperate Housewives, it's on now and I forgot to start the tape!
Bumbo is a seat...one of the avatars has it...maybe Sophieandhannah?  The green little chair her DD is in.  http://www.Bumbo.ca

as for DH doing naps.  He will definitely be doing nap duty once he's done studying.  He should have been doing it all along...but I thought Cole needed a super long wind down and DH didn't have the time.  Now that it's only a few minutes though there is no excuse.  Since he goes down so early DH will never see him at night.  My plan is for DH to give Cole breakfast every day and put him down for first nap before he goes off to work. That will be his bonding time with him.  Thanks for the suggestion though.  DH wants to be involved too.  Don't get me wrong.  He's a wonderful daddy and has so regretted having to study and practically missing the first 6 months :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 17, 2005, 01:20:46 am
Thanks for the welcome ladies!   I forgot to tell you all about my dogs.   :oops:  They would be so hurt.  We have 2 Weimeraners (never have been sure about the spelling).  A 6 year old male named Miles and a 5 year old female named Mickie (who is currently trying to get food off of the counter  :twisted:).  They have adjusted to Claire really well.  We were worried about jealousy issues, but so far things have gone smoothly and Claire thinks they are a riot. 

She's started solids, just some cereal and sweet potatoes, but getting them 3 times a day.  Its hard to fit all the food and breast feeds in :? !
Also using a sippy cup for water only.  Its a trainer by Advent, she likes to hold it and play with it more than anything.  I really don't think she's getting much.  We haven't used a high chair yet, as she doesn't sit up by herself and I can just imagine her sliding out the bottom!  She's kind of little for her age. Only in the 15th percentile for weight!

I think you all have already discussed this, but if you wouldn't mind, how many hours of day sleep are your los getting?

We're still having some night waking issues and I'm wondering if she getting too much day sleep?  On the sleep boards theres a post about average sleep and it says that 6mo olds should only have like 2.5 hours. :shock:  I am trying to lenghten activity time, but she's getting harder and harder to read and I've run into overtired twice today :( !
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 17, 2005, 01:28:14 am
well, since I'm here still :wink:

I love weimeraners by the way.  They are big dogs right?  Gray usually?  Hope I'm right.

Cole sleeps 11.5-12 hours at night.  He usually has one 1:20, one 45 min and one 1:00-1:15 (about 3 hours day sleep).  It's hit and miss where they all land.  Depends on wake up etc. Sometimes the first nap will be the longest, sometimes the second. 

okay, i'm going to go try and get a life now.  LOL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 17, 2005, 01:41:04 am
Jessica (you'll have to add your name in your sig - I had to scroll back  :wink: ) - Danielle has a 45m-1.5hr nap in the morning and 2-2.5hrs in the afternoon with about 11hrs overnight (one feed in that time but goes straight back to sleep) - so about 15hrs total a day.

Hayley, I made carrots with Nathan but I recall reading a post here about a year ago saying it's not a good idea to do homemade carrots - something about high Nitrate levels, but the processed ones are ok because of the cooking temps.  Not sure what I'll do this time, I'd never heard of that before and haven't since.  Re kumura, the key is to not overmash otherwise it turns gluey, so just puree until mashed if that makes sense.  I think you can start to add lumps from now if Daniel's ok with them.  If you've done rice cereal, you could add some to change the consistency as well.

Well I've done some exercise today, so feeling great, right think I can hear Danielle awake now.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 17, 2005, 02:47:33 am
Jessica, the last few weeks Daniel has averaged 1 hour morning and 2 hours afternoon. He was the KING of 40min naps, so I am soooo proud of my little bear! At night it's about 11.5 hours. In saying that, sometimes he sleeps 4 hours in the day and sometimes can go back to sleep straight after his 6am feed and do 13H. But, I'm thinking 3 hours is really enough for him during the day.

Interesting about the carrots. I wonder if I should give them to him or not. And I've saved some kumara out for tonight, so we'll see if he eats them.

Oh dear, Mr grizzly needs me.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 17, 2005, 02:58:27 am
Hayley,

here is Taylor in her bumbo seat.  it's basically a seat that helps them to sit up when they can't quite do it on their own....and it can be used up until they can no longer fit in it.  I see that Sophie has one too in her Avatar.

BTW, regarding the homemade carrots, it is because of the pesticides and nitrates that they recommend not giving homemade carrots until they are at least 7 months (some say 1 year)...store bought is safe though.  When I say "they" I read it in various baby mag articles and also in Super Baby Food and the American Academy of Pediatrics.  There are a few other no-nos on the list as well.

Traci-I do watch Nip/Tuck but have been a little annoyed with it lately; a little over the top!  I'll post more later...gotta go unpack groceries.

I also know some others had Q's so will come back tonight.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mrayohler on October 17, 2005, 03:24:36 am
A couple thoughts to share/ask:

We just went through the stage with night wakings and playing.  I thought I was going to put earplugs in to get through it because I was terribly sick at the time but as everything does, it passed.

I'm very impressed with the wedding and staying out late.  I'm just a nervous wreck with my kids sleeping and don't have the guts to do that and go with the flow the next day.  Tell me what the thoughts are that keep you calm and sane about that?  I could use something to help me try to live a little more relaxed!

We had a rough Saturday with short naps and a very overtired baby for the catnap.  She keeps waking at 5am!!!  I'm not sure exactly what's causing this but she had a fantastic day today and went down tonight so happy and without a peep so I'm crossing my fingers she'll make it to 6 tomorrow.  I asked my husband to work from home so I don't have to hear his alarm at 5:30!

Thanks for the big group hug.  That made me smile.
Michele
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 17, 2005, 03:39:59 am
traci: I watch nip/tuck....completely addicted!!  This past weeks show was good but next week looks pretty interesting!! :D

So...I had a phone call from my MIL :shock:   She asks me in a overly sickly sweet voice "so, you having a day off today?"  :shock:  I'm thinking "how long has it been lady since you've had kids???!!!"  but reply " I never have a day off!"  She comes back in an even sweeter voice "Oh, there's always laundry to do?"   :evil:  I don't know why she rubs me the wrong way...but ooooh she gets my blood boiling!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 17, 2005, 03:50:02 am
Jessica-Taylor gets about 3-4 hours of day sleep right now.  for a while she was pretty consistently doing 1.5 in am and pm and then a 40 minute cat nap, but I think she is going to be dropping the cat nap soon because she is close to 2.5 hours A time and her naps have been a little wacky the last few days...45 min am and then 1.5-2 hr in the pm...then no catnap!  She does a routine 12 hours ever night to the 'T'...if she goes down at 7:30, she wakes at 7:30.

Michele-I guess I feel more comfortable now knowing that overall Taylor is ona good schedule and EVERYTHING I have read (and I have read way too much!) says that the occasional switch in routine for a special occasion is alright...as long as it is a day here and there.  If I do 2-3 days in a row though of messing up her routine, forget it.  we have to work with her for the next few days to get her back on track.  But with BW, even when we get off track I feel pretty confident that we will find our way again!

Traci-regarding the Weissulbuth book, I guess one of the first things that caught me as contradictory was that it is okay to nurse then put to sleep...that there is no evidence that eating before sleeping messes with their sleep.  he also says 'NEVER wake a sleeping baby for a feed' and even pretty much quotes Tracy and BW by saying "some other books out there suggest force feeding the baby to tank them up" (one of Tracy's terms)...he's obviously referring to the DF. :?  :shock:  I am not done with the book yet and I like the explanations of how sleep works, but I figure I'll just continue with what I have been doing with BW since it has worked so beautifully for us.
And regarding Nip/Tuck-what is with the grandma smoking pot with the grandson??? :lol:   and then the cop seducing Christian and then Kimber coming home and they have a 3 way?!?! :roll:   So over the top!!!  I am so sad because I have been a devout fan for the last 2 seasons.  I love Desperate Housewives and Gray's Anatomy though!  Also Rescue Me with Denis Leary.  Have you seen that?

Okay gotta go get ready for Desperate Housewives!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 17, 2005, 04:02:29 am
Jessica... Arwyn used to have only 45 minute naps... drove me around the bend  :roll: but she was always waking up happy so I let it go. She is now back to longer naps but I really have to finesse them. I end up pat/shushing for a while and the only reason I do it is because she wakes up crying. If you add up 3x45 min, it is the 2.25 hrs. as per the guidelines for 6 months. SO, I say, if your lo is happy with short naps and you are happy with short naps, go with the flow!

Hayley... I made my own carrots and sweet potatoes. I steamed them for a LONG time, more than the recommended time so that they would puree more easily. I noticed with the leftover carrots from Thanksgiving that I had to add more water to get it to the consistency I wanted. I agree with Andrea, you should mash the sweet potatoes... I wrecked a whole batch of organic regular potatoes by putting them in the chopper. I ended up with glue. :x  :(

Michelle... have you tried putting your lo back to bed at 5 am? Even if Arwyn wakes up at 6 am, we try to put her back down. I am looking at my sleep log and in a two week span, she woke up 4 times at 6 am and we pat/shushed her back to sleep successfully for 3 of those times. The other time, it was not as successful as she woke again at 7 and we pat/shushed her back down for a wake-up time of 8 am. I am aiming for 6:30 or 7 am wake up so... if it is too early, she goes back down. And right now, I am trying to adjust for the time change so... for the past 3 days, have aimed for a 7:30 or 8 am wake-up.

Micky... breathe in through the nose, exhale fully through the mouth...  :wink:

Alright everybody... just watched Nanny 911 tonight. If anyone feels like their household is not as they want/like/wish for, watch this show and you will instantly feel better.  :D

Sorry... no Nip/Tuck or Desperate Housewives for me... I am an Amazing Race and CSI fan!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 17, 2005, 04:04:49 am
Andrea, thanks for the bumbo pics. That looks really useful, although for Daniel we don't need now. I've never seen them here, must be an American thing.

Michele, they way I see it, if we have one (or two) off days but it means we can do something for ME then so be it! Admittedly, there's only 1 baby to get back into routine though. The funny thing is, I find if it's a day trip Daniel often sleeps better at night if he's been totally out of his routine. It's as if he's saying "thank goodness I'm back in my own bed. Now, let me get some sleep". :lol:

Interesting about the carrots. In that case I'll hold off giving them to him for another month. At least he'll probably cope with the slightly lumpier texture better.

Oh, and while I'm here, what's classed as constipated? IE, if Daniel's breastfed 4 x per day (sometimes 5) and 3 solids, fruit and veges (no cereal at the moment) how often should he 'go'? When he was EBF he was at least once a day, sometimes twice. Now I think he last went yesterday morning 36 hours ago. Should I be 'worried' if it goes much longer? I thought you girls might know, rather than posting on the 'foods' board yet. I don't want to look like a paranoid mum  :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 17, 2005, 04:06:10 am
Hi!  sounds like everyone has had a busy weekend.  Ankie-I was talking about the bouncy chair and feeding Ben in it instead of the high chair because he decided that he had something against it. (just a refresher!)  So the bouncy chair is reclined but he sits up straight in it without any back support.  I am going to try to transition him back into the high chair this week.  Michele-I am constantly worrying about scheduling and sleeping.  When we go out with Ben and it is late I remind myself that he will get back on schedule in a day or two.  Also, I have heard tons of comments from moms who have more than one little one and they have said that their 2, 3, and 4 have been better adjusted because they didn't always keep to a strict schedule every day.  Of course I want my LO to be perfect in every way so I schedule him like crazy and try to stay sane when he goes off of it for a night.  Bec-I think you asked about constipation.  I fed Ben just fruits for a day or two without any cereal and that seems to help, I also added more liquid to the cereal thinking that he would get more liquids into his system.  Does anyone have any problems with little bumps on their LO faces?  I am pretty sure it isn't an allergy because it is minimal, I change his sheet frequently, not sure if I should be putting lotion on it?
Macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 17, 2005, 04:07:51 am
Hayley, the way I understand constipation, it's not the distance between poos, but the consistency and whether the baby is having trouble passing them.  So just keep an eye out for how he is and go from there.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 17, 2005, 04:16:52 am
Hello all.  Finally getting back to you all. I think my last post was about 5 pages ago. Wow.

Thanks to you all for chiming in on the dh rant.  It helps to know that their are others out there who have to work at helping dh understand the bw.

Hayley- great picture.  Sophie is a nick-name for Sophia which is her "real" name.

Traci- COle is so cute in his high chair. It makes me want to get one.  I use the bumbo for feeding, like Andrea.  We have such a small kitchen/dining area I didn't want to add a high chair...the bumbo was the perfect solution. I do sometimes wish she didn't have access to her feet while eating as she is an incredibly messy eater...we have a lot of carrot/sweet potato/winter squash stained socks now!

Andrea- Great work with the wedding.  I really ditto what you said about it being ok to take them out of their routine for a special occassion.  I think when I first started bw, I was sooo scared to stray from the routine because I thought things would go back to the way they were before...no schedule...guessing what she needed when, night feedings etc.  Now that we have been doing it for awhile, I feel much more confident that things will eventually get back to "normal" even if we stray.

Thanks to everyone for the sleep times.  That was really helpful to me too.  Sophie currently sleeps about 4 hours during the day and about 10-11hours at night (still working on early morning wakings--is she hungry?) She usually naps about 2 in the morning, 1.5 in the afternoon and 45 in the cat nap time. 
I too have been wondering if she is sleeping too much during the day.  I have been trying to extend her A time to work on this.

Also, BTW, I just swtiched Sophie to the next flow level for the nipples we use . We use Dr. Brown's bottles and I went from a #2 flow to a #3 flow.  This seems to be helping her eating, as she had reduced her intake pretty drastically...I thought maybe this was why she started waking so early, so we shall see.

Also-aren't wemeraners...don't make me try to actually spell it--the dogs that someone takes pictures of dressed in people clothes?  Stegman? I love them too :)

Nip-tuck. don't watch it but a teacher friend of mine does and she was cracking me up telling me about the episode with the threesome...she is an older, VERY modest woman and was quite shocked by this!!  I'll have to try to catch it some day.  We are currently on a no-cable budget  :D So we only get Fox (if that means anything to anyone)  My favorite guilty pleasure is The OC...my dh calls it the Oh Crap...and he's really right but it's fun nonetheless.  Nothing is, however, on right now except baseball which I have been cursing as a result.  Sad...talk about needing to get a life.

Anyhow...on the dh front. mine and I had a really great heart to heart today.  So nice.  So mature. So civilized.  Don't know if it will actually change anything, especially on the bw front, but we shall see.

Definately into the idea of him doing more naps/feedings etc...especially as I get geared up to go back to work....it will be soooo important to share the child care work evenings and weekends.

Thanks for the group hug Naomi! Can't wait to chat you all up again on Wednesday! :lol:
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 17, 2005, 04:23:08 am
Hayley-
That's what our ped said about poops too.  She said some babes start to only go once a week after about 4-5 months!!!!! (I am not blessed whith one of those children :) )
If they are staining and poop is like pebbles, that's constipation.
I have heard BTW that apples can contribute to const. rather than help...that was news to me.
Have a great night/day.
Hannah

Brendan was here this weekend and wanted to add a tcker for him to my signature...cute huh? I showed him all of your pics etc...he loved jayson in the rain and Sara on the coffee table...I still laugh over that one, whenever I think about it!
OK, that's really all now!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 17, 2005, 05:16:47 am
Mate this post is flying !!  Thanks to everyone for the welcome !!

Traci - thanks for the constipation info, I'm not ready to stick soap up her bum just yet :shock:  :lol:  :lol: but I just got some prune juice although it might be another thing trying to get her to drink it. Also somebody else suggested just fruit so thanks I will try that as well.

Keep the photos coming !!

bec
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 17, 2005, 06:15:44 am
Michelle-ditto what Ankie said.  if Taylor wakes up before 7 we always try to pat her back to sleep and most of the time it works.  On the rare occasion I have given a feed at 6 am the earliest if for some reason I think she needs it...but really I haven't fed her before 6 am in weeks.  it almost makes me wonder if I should be???  Many moms seem to be still?

The 5 am wakes up are tough, but I think it is pretty normal at this stage.  Taylor can fall asleep independently yet she still wakes around 5ish 3-4 nights a week.  I'd say 2/4 times she'll go back to sleep on her own and then the other 2 times we pat her back to sleep.
HTH
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 17, 2005, 12:41:34 pm
Andrea- Oh right, I remember those points in Healthy Sleep now.  I think what he's saying is that it's okay on occasion if your lo feeds to sleep.  Not every time, but if it happens don't wake them up to put them to sleep.  I think this is based on the fact that your little one can already soothe themself.

And yes he does pretty much quote Tracy about tanking up and says not to wake them to feed (at night).  I stopped the DF because it didn't seem to help much and honestly I kind of agree with Weissbluth...I don't want to feed Cole unless he's hungry.  I don't think it disturbs his sleep (him waking for it) as he's only stayed up after that feed twice.

As for Nip/Tuck...it is totally over the top this season.  What was up with what I refer to as the "couch" lady!  Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.  Matt smoking up with grandma must have happened episode two?  I missed that one.  And the threesome...WELL....that is just so Christian and so in line with the show that it didn't really phase me.  By the way, do you find Sean attractive?  I don't at all.  Christian, well, that's another story (can you see me drool!LOL)  okay, I'll take this discussion to PMg so as to not bore anyone else.

Can you pm multiple people at once?  like email?  just curious.

Hannah-we have a small kitchen too.  I would have liked to have gotten another row of cabinets but then the high chair wouldn't fit in!  I figured we'd have to use the high chair eventually anyway.  The Peg is great as it folds up pretty narrow and gets out of the way.

Micky- what's up with MIL?  And did your DH ever say anything about the other incident (that was you too, wasn't it?)  what did she mean by day off?  when is Jack's surgery scheduled for?  want to be sure I'm sending out my positive vibes on the right day. (your lo is jack, right?...my memory is horrible)

And I think weimaraners are the dogs that guy dresses up as people.  I was going to mention that but wasn't sure if anyone would know what i was talking about and i'd look like a crazy person :roll:  LOL

bye for now.  see you guys later today.

Traci




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Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 17, 2005, 13:17:54 pm
just wanted to say hi to my girls, I am having the worst day ever. very tired and worn out in every way possible, and jayson running away when I was trying to get him dressed to take him to play at a mums group was the last straw. Thank goodness riley went down to finish her sleep after jay woke her up this morning.
I will check in with you all when I am ot bursting into tears so much.
Thanks girls
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 17, 2005, 13:27:41 pm
Naomi

{{{{{giant hugs to you}}}}}

Hope things improve later today.  I know Jayson's been trying your patience.  Just make it through today...tomorrow will be better.

Can you get him outside to burn off some energy?  (once you do get him dressed that is!)  Maybe there are some more puddles he can frolick in :wink:   What do I know...just hang in there hon'
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 17, 2005, 14:17:46 pm
Big Hugs Naomi!!!  Hang in there and come chat wehn you are ready for a breakdown...we'll be here! :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 17, 2005, 14:19:48 pm
Traci - you're right!  William Wegman dresses them up as people.  I'd like to see him try that with our dogs!  LOL  Weimaraners range in color from a "blue", which is really kind of a slate gray, to light gray and some are more light brown or fawn colored.  When I figure out how to put pictures on here, I'll post a picture of ours. :D

Thanks all for the sleep information.  Claire is getting 3-4 hours a day, which seems about average.  Her naps have been a little crazy lately.  Yesterday she would not take a catnap  and ended up being awake 4 hours before bed.  She held up pretty good though and went to bed without a peep!

She also has a wake up around 5 or 6.   If its before 6, I usually feed her to get her back to sleep.  I don't mind a 6am wake, but maybe I should start expecting a 7 wake to adjust for the time change?    Her wakes have been a off lately too.  Sometimes 7 or 7:30 other times 6.  I'm wondering if this is why her naps are out of sorts.  The whole biorythm thing? 
Sometimes my brain hurts from thinking about all of this :roll:

Have a great day!

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 17, 2005, 16:37:12 pm
Oh My Lord this moves quickly. 

First of all thanks everybody for letting me vent and the DH support - I know we can mostly chalk it up to "men" but they are not all bad and dh here is on board with BW, although it is only now that he is in full support as everything is in place\...oh well...sigh....


Naomi {{{{{{hugs}}}}} hang in there, it must be soooooooo hard with 2.. :shock:

Welcome Jessica I love the name Claire and Welcome Bec - I love Horses and/or ponies!

Traci Cole is so cute in his high chair

I love those bumbo things I figure it is now too late to order on for Sophie I wish i would have seen them before.  I forget who was saying that they had trouble with a high chair but we got a peg perego that reclines and rocks ect... it seems very comfy and Sophie loves it.  We also put Sophie when we are eating dinner.

Micky - What is up with the MIL - Breath......Mine can be a little tiresome seeing as her daughter and other grandson corner the market on perfect.... :shock:  :roll:

I know there is more but I am taking the day off so I will try to get on here throughout the day...

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 17, 2005, 16:51:28 pm
Naomi...{{{{HUGS}}}}... Put a rainsuit on that boy and send him outside!  :wink:

Richelle... just noticed your Sophie was 6 months on the weekend. Happy 6 months!

Hmmm... about dreamfeeding. Those of you who don't DF, does your lo wake up in the middle of the night to feed? How do you determine if it is hunger? I am in the process of weaning the DF but wonder if I could just go cold turkey... I tried it once and Arwyn woke up at 1 am wanting to latch onto my chin.

Ta ta... won't be at the chat on Wednesday! It is my anniversary!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 17, 2005, 17:25:19 pm
Wow... this moves fast.

Thanks for the info about constipation and carrots.  We just gave DS some prunes mixed with carrot to get him going again.  I found I had to cook the carrots for a really long time as well.  I hope they're ok. 
Today, we had lift off! :D

We're having some nap schedule changes as well.  He used to do 1.5hrs in the am and 2 in the afternoon.  Now he's doing 30-45 mins in the morning but wants to sleep again by 1:00.  This is when I like to be out and about but I guess it's not about me is it.

 I can hear him rolling around right now and it's only been 30 mins!  I've tried to shh/patt him back to sleep but he just smiles at me.  So i leave him to roll around until he protests to come out.  What else can I do? :?

Not a nip/tuck fan but love, love Amazing Race and 24.  I hope the families leave the US at some time.  I like to live vicariously through the contestants and remember my days of travel.

I'm about to give my lo squash.  I think I'll have to cook it for a long time like the carrots.  Has anybody else had success or problems with it?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 17, 2005, 17:28:46 pm
Arwyn - I know the ticker says Sophie is 6 months buI count October 24th as her 6 months but thnks anyway the ticker must go by 4 week months???  I have never done the dream feed, i could never wake our little log up enougto latch on and we instead did a bedtime that got progressively ealier from 9Pm to our now 7 or 730 PM bedtime.  Sophie has always been a great nightime sleeper (sorry :shock: ) and has only ever woken around 4am for a feed until 6 weeks ago when she started going until 6 to 7 am, gotta love her!  Why not try to cut back on the amount - I think this is what Tracy recommends.  I also think there is a thread on the solid food and weaning board about it...

Arwyn was it you that said you give Ankie a lovie to go to bed with?  I am nervous about doing this and Sophie sleeps good at night but she is already attached to a monkey blanket and the remote control (honestly she is obsessed with it :roll: ) I love the idea of her having a comfort in bed with her - What does Arwyn have?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 17, 2005, 17:38:35 pm
oh yeah...

Macaire,  my lo had little bumps on his face too.  At first i thought it was baby acne but it never went away.  This made me worry cause DH had really bad acne as a tween and spent the best part of grade 8 at the dermi. 

I put a little pure aloe vera gel on his cheeks at night and it cleared up in about a week.  I figured it was all natural so why not.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 17, 2005, 17:44:56 pm
Sorry Ankie I got you and Arwyn's names mixed up - very tired....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 17, 2005, 19:24:21 pm
Hi all,
Sam has just decided that he wants to only sleep 2.5-3 hours during the day. It is more 2.5 then 3...and he has just decided that in the last week! Nights, I have been trying to put him down earlier to try and "cure" the 5 am wake ups but I have now give up. He sleeps about 10-11 hours overnight and does not wake for a feed. That is why when he wakes at 5 am, I feel that I need to feed him. Although i try and hold him off till 6. I heard his little tummy rumble yesterday morning so he got fed! After 11 hours, his last feed is 6 am, he takes 30 minutes to feed and is not having a bar of short feed and back to bed. Also after 30 minutes, it just does not seem worth it to put him back to sleep.
Q-how much is everyone giving their los in terms of solids? Sam takes about 3-4 icecubes worth 2 meals a day and I am thinking of adding a 3rd meal.
Hayley-is Daniel still wrapped? Sam just did not need it and we have not been wrapping him at all in the last 3 weeks.
I am very lucky on the dh front as he is totally on board and actually taught me how to do PU/PD although I do not have very much success with it and he does! He is going to look after Sam when I go back to work so has always been very hands on.
Anyway, must dash, another beautiful day here so must make the most of it and put another load of washing out.
BTW, a couple of pics...
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 17, 2005, 19:40:07 pm
Man this thread moves fast!!! there were FIVE new pages since I was here yesterday!!  I can't keep up.  I'm never getting to the rest of the site anymore! :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 17, 2005, 20:13:08 pm
Karen - I LOVE the sunglasses photo, so very cute. And the one of the both of you is lovely too. I don't wrap Daniel anymore. He really protested about it and I physically couldn't wrap him anymore. He's got a sleeping bag though. I'm soooo happy to have him out of the wrap now.

I've fixed his night wakings which I think were cold temp induced by now dressing him in a thermo bodysuit plus PJ's.

Naomi - I say send him outside without his rainsuit on in the rain, he'll soon want to come inside and get dressed!! :lol: Just kidding!

Another highchair question, if you LO's can sit up by themselves, how far back do you tilt the chair for feeding? Maybe I should have him tilted back? I ususally have Daniel fairly upright.

Can't stay and chat although I'd love to. I'm off to stay at a friends with Daniel as DH is away for 3 nights, and I need to pack. I'm probably only going for one night, but by the time I next check in, anything could have happened.  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 17, 2005, 20:34:04 pm
OMgosh so much to read and quite a few things I wanted to comment on since Nathan's at preschool and I get to concentrate on something of my own for more than 2mins! Naomi, sorry you had a trying day, I sooo know what you mean and yesterday was a bit touch and go particularly in the morning.

Highchairs and small kitchens: I decided to get a strap on chair that attaches to a dining chair and then later can be just pushed into the table as a booster.  Nathan's just moved out of it for Danielle.  It's a Safety First one - one of the best baby items I brought.  It's really sturdy and has a good size tray - also the tray goes right into the baby's tummy and food doesn't end up on their lap.

Karen, love the pics!

Hayley, I have Danielle's chair in the straight upright position even though it does recline - I think me starting to do that actually helped her sitting strength.  She lets me know when she's had enough.

Loveys:D has a muslin cloth that I gave to her about 6wks ago and it made a HUGE difference with her being able to self-settle.  Now she sees it coming, pushes it into her face, closes her eyes and sucks her bottom lip.  I don't worry about it smothering her as it's so thin and I've actually got it tucked down beside her body with just the top poking up for her to play with.

Solnme, how long is activity before the first nap?  I'm wondering if it needs extending out and that's why you're getting a 30min nap, otherwise have you just extended out the activity time and he's getting overtired?

DF: We don't do the DF, but Danielle still feeds once in teh night, I don't think she needs it nutritionally, but I just haven't worked on getting rid of it yet, I'm waiting for solids to be established.  As far as cutting it out, I dropped Nathan's by dropping the minutes I was breastfeeding for  (with a bottle you start to offer less oz's) and then just dropped it one night and we never looked back.

Right, I'll a quick look around the site and then do some housework and I'm sure my ME time will be over and D will be awake LOL!

Ciao
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: herbst99 on October 17, 2005, 20:50:50 pm
Hi there - WOW - I saw on Friday a new "topic" was started - and already 11 pages!!
Well - I am NikkiH - I am 31 married for 6yrs on 30th - DD lise is our first of hopefully 2 - I am trained as an Occupational Therapist but is currently working on my families wine farm - marketing, distribution etc. Babies are my "passion" so I hope to get back into swing of things with OT and babies in next year.
DD - Lise is now 7.5mts old - SPIRITED in capital letters!! She stated "crawling" at 5 mths because - I HAD TO HAVE the toy that is out of reach ... and is now frustrated again - just wants to stand so she is pulling up and trying to cruise ... ooh man. We love her energy to bits - but it does get me down at times!
I look forward to getting in touch with you all again - I posted in the E.A.S.Y. Forum on some problems with our "schedule" - if you can look there and maybe share some thoughts?
Thanks
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 17, 2005, 21:01:04 pm
okay I will make this quick. I am simply feeling bummed out. I was saying to dh that i have more people I can count on here than I do who live near me. I have stopped calling them all as they don't call me, I wanted to see if they noticed that they noticed or not.
No wonder I want to move out of the country......
Jay is getting a major handful, not listening, won't get dressed to go out, I try to take him to mum and tot groups, but he won't get dressed, so I said stuff it all, I am not up for the fight anymore.
He is getting up earlier and earlier, like in bed at 9pm and up at 7:30, and with Riley still waking it is starting to be hard to fuction on little sleep.
DH was awesome and asked if I would like his mum to take him for a couple of days, but I told him she can't keep up for one day, so I don't think she could do a couple, as much as she would love to.
I am simply bummed and majorly pi$$ed off, and drained after they are all sick, I am not and have played nurse all week.
Judy, after a day like I have had I have no idea how you do it each and everyday!!!
But on the upside dh has said I should go to a club once a week with my friend who is staying with us to get out and dance, he figures it would do me good, he is awesome, I would honestly be lost without him.
TO top it off dh's boss talked about a support system, we don't have one, I have no blood relatives in this country, dad in US, mum and sis in UK and another sis in Saudi Arabia. His family is a couple of hours away, but they are senoirs and can only just about manage the trip once every couple of months. It has always been the two of us, we manage, but it gets very frustrating when people say they will help and never do, and then they all wonder why we want to move
 :shock:  :shock:  :roll:  :roll: . Well I just wanted to get it out, thank you sooooooo much for being that shoulder I have so desperately needed .
Talk to you all later girls.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 17, 2005, 21:04:31 pm
Karen-great picture of ds in sunglasses!
As far as solids go, I haven't started making my own yet so don't know the amount by ice cubes.  but of the jar stuff she was only taking about 1 tbs. each feed.  todya though she did great and took about 1.5 ozs of sweet potato and pears.  I was so proud of her!

Welcome Nicki!

We give Taylor a ligthweight soft blanket and it really helps her settle herself.  We leave it with her all night...after 6 months the risk of SIDS in dramatically decreased, so I am not too worried about it.  maybe I should be?

so funny story today.  I went into T's room to put something away during her afternoon nap and peeked at her to find her AWAKE!!!  (it was of course the 45 minute mark!)  She turned to look at me and I quickly ducked and then crawled out of there on my hands and knees!!! :lol:  :lol:   I felt like it was a military operation!  She stayed in her crib for abotu 15 minutes babbling then started crying.  when I went to her she was just so happy, what else could I do but get her up?  Def. time to extend the A time on a consistent basis, no matter how sleepy she looks!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 17, 2005, 22:22:58 pm
hey naomi!!!  I hope you are feeling better!!!  I know what it is like to feel invisible somedays....you think you can count on your friends but end up not quite panning out  :(   My sisters are also far away (california) so I also am lonely at times too, esp. with DH working away from home....but you can always count on your "virtual" friends to be around!! :D   Feel free to come move to the praries  :D  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 17, 2005, 22:39:26 pm
Naomi...you MUST, I repeat MUST take DH up on his offer.  That is so wonderful. And don't worry if the kids don't sleep because you won't be there to worry about it!  Go blow off some steam.  It will do you good :D

And here's another hug just in case the other one wasn't big enough. :wink:
{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Karen-love the pics...totally cute.

okay, i gotta go try and do something productive with my evening.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 18, 2005, 00:01:04 am
Welcome Nikki H!

Naomi... {{{{{HUGS}}}}} Come out to the Westcoast!!

Karen... great picture!! Love the sunglasses - are they Baby Banz?

Richelle & others who asked about a lovey... I give Arwyn a lightweight jersey receiving blanket. She has been attached to this blanket for a long time and we have 5 of the exact same one because she chews/sucks on it until she falls asleep... even while we pat/shush so... we need to change it everyday. I am a little worried that she will strangle herself with it as it is stretchy and she is quite mobile in her crib but knock on wood... She also plays with this blanket when she wakes up and manages to keep herself quite occupied.

Richelle, no problem on mixing up the names. They both begin with A and are two syllables.  :lol:

Arwyn won't go down for her catnap today and is in her walker screeching away for me. Have a great evening all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 18, 2005, 00:02:59 am
G'day all

Just a quick note on the early morning wakings - H would wake up every morning at 5am without fail.  Three days ago I covered the entire window with two thick blankets so no light gets in at all.  Day 1 - 6.10am, Day 2 6.45am, Day 3 - 6.30am - LIKE MAGIC   :D (still waking overnight, but at least not again at 5.am)

Have a good one
Bec
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 18, 2005, 00:29:10 am
Bec  :shock:  :lol:  a rabbits head?  Does she have a website, would love to see a pic of one (or can you post one?)

I'm thinking I need block out curtains of some sort too - we've got bright street lights coming in and last nights full moon (or close to it) made the rooms so light.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 18, 2005, 00:48:42 am
about a month ago I put a blanket behind the curtains in Cole's room and it really helped.  I've since bought a blind but who has time to install it!  I was worried that he'd only be able to sleep in "cave" like conditions but he proved me wrong last weekend when he slept for the first time in his pack n play at my friends parents place. 

Next test will be this weekend at the ILs.  Question for you ladies.  Have any of you taken your little one somewhere, put them down for bed...then woken them and put them in the car to go home?  Our ILs are 45 min. highway drive away.  My MIL is kind enough to have dinner (make up Thanksgiving) at 2pm so that we can leave by 4:30 if we want to keep Cole on schedule.  We've only been there once in 6 months and she has been so helpful coming here to help me that I feel kind of bad arriving at around 11 and leaving at 4:30.  Should I feel bad?  She seems to understand I don't want to disturb his sleep. DH suggested today we stay later but I'm not sure I want to.

Another thing...they have two big dogs and the place...well...it's filthy!  I'm going to have to bring a blanket for Cole to crawl around on.  The dogs get agitated when we all converge on the house (There will be 14 of us in a tiny bungalow).  Every big dinner at the house the dogs fight and twice have drawn blood!  I am so nervous about Cole crawling around with the dogs around. :oops:  I just hope he's sleeping most of the time or maybe I'll take him out for a nice long walk.  I am not looking forward to Christmas and dealing with all of this again.

hmmm, i haven't given Cole a lovey.  He doesn't seem attached to anything.  There is a small blankie i give him hoping it becomes his lovey but he manages to settle okay without it.

I think I might have to go to sleep soon.  I'm not anticipating a good nights rest.  DH is writing the first part of his exam tomorrow from 9-1 and he usually doesn't sleep the night before :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 18, 2005, 01:07:19 am
Hang in there Naomi I sorta know how you feel being on this island away from all family.  Go dancing - blow off some steam it will do you good.

LOL Bec about the rabbits head blanket b/c Sophie's lovey is a monkey head with a blanket attached, it is a Kushies brand they also have an elephant and 2 others - sorta creepy but nice idea and Sophie loves 'Max'.  Maybe I will let her sleep with him....

I am off to bed - we have Tropical Storm Wilma headed in our direction -  hopefully moving away overnight but I will get some sleep while i can just in case.  FYI we lost everything last year when hit by Hurricane Ivan.....very stressful.

Good night

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 18, 2005, 01:18:24 am
Well...well...well.  Nice try, ladies.  I leave town for one weekend and you start a new thread to confuse me and then write 12 pages  :shock:  to keep me busy all day.   But, it didn't work, because here I am finally posting. 

(Okay, for the newer moms, that was supposed to be a joke...but it's been a long, hard day, so not sure how it came off).

I am Kate, proud mother of Ryan Christopher, the cutest little redhead around!  I am 29 and have been married to Matt for 4 years.  We just celebrated the 11th anniversary of our first date this weekend!   :shock:  :shock:  :shock:   It sort of freaked us both out, I must say.  Ryan is an angel/textbook baby, thank God (and I do daily!).  He generally sleeps through the night with 2 or 3 naps a day.  Everywhere we go, people say, "Does he smile like that/act this wonderful all the time?"  (Can you tell I'm a woman in love?  But only as a friend.   :P ) 

Our trip to Chicago was fun...saw my cousin get married to the coolest chick.  It was the first time our entire family (and we're an Irish Catholic one, so it's pretty big!) has been together since our wedding.  It's always fun to see my granny (Ryan's G.G.) with my son.  Poor lady...whenever she holds him, there are like 27 cameras flashing.  He's the first great-grandchild and she's getting old, so not to be depressing, but we're all worried she might not make it to see another one.   :cry:   She's feisty though, so she'll probably be around another 20 years or so!   :D

Okay, with 12 pages, I can't comment on you all.  Just big hugs to everyone having a bad day and high fives to those of you doing well.  Welcome to all the newbies...isn't it scary to post the first time?  Typing dh, lo, or ds was super weird...now I think about my dh as "Dh".  Weird!  I lurked for a LONG time before ever posting and now I can't be stopped!

Glad to be back, girls!  Happy Tuesday!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 18, 2005, 01:19:36 am
Richelle, you posted while I was typing my novella.  Not trying to ignore the danger!  Good luck with the storm!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 18, 2005, 01:37:52 am
Richelle, all the best with the storm.

Traci, we used to go out for dinner to my parents frequently when Nathan was a baby and what I'd do was keep to the routine as much as poss - ie dinner, bath, BF, bed (we took the portacot) with his normal bedding etc.  I'd often need to pat him completely to sleep.  Then we'd stay until 9.30pm, he'd be awake in the car and then I'd DF him when we got home and it always worked out well - don't think he never resettled.  With Danielle we've only been out once in the evening and since she's such an angel I didn't stress prior to it and we did the same and she was fine (even though I don't normally do a DF, I did on that night).  Oh, and when ever I go to other people's houses with dogs I just ask them if it's ok for the dogs to be outside with the kids there (my parents have a small puppy and he's fine with the kids) - although most people automatically do that anyway I find.  We've had so much publicity in NZ in the last few years with dogs attacking children (even family dogs that have been around kids all their lives) most people understand.

Kate, I've got a couple of great-grandmothers too and for one of them Nathan was her first GGChild, now she's got 3 and she's going to be 90 next year!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 18, 2005, 03:18:22 am
Hugs to all of those who are having a tough time. At times I find myself making so many plans so that I can avoid the fact that I am lonely. A good cry and some long phone calls sometimes helps me of course I am sure you know this.

Roz thanks for the info on the face spotting!

Karen-I am feeding Ben 2x a day, lunch and dinner. He gets 2-3 icecubes of fruit or vegies and 2 tbs of cereal. Tonight he got 4 icecubes full from the DDDDH and he didn't drink very much BM. I have read that is they start cutting down too much on liquid intake then you need to cut back on the amount of solids.

Traci-When we have stayed out late we have had Ben follow all of his normal routines then have a very quick DF when we get home and have also had success just sticking him in bed with some pt/sh. Bring a nice big blanket so you don't get grossed out by the filth and make sure it isn't light in color same with the LO's clothing, that way you won't see all of the hair and dirt.  I think that if you are going to be thinking about your LO schedule the entire afternoon and it is going to wreck your time then have a plan in your head to leave early and if you are enjoying yourself then stay later. I have some interesting IL's and we always tell them the worst case scenario on leaving times (super early) then if I am having a low anxiety day I add time. Hope that makes sense. I also have my DH do a lot of the talking for me so I don't have to feel bad about asking for things or leaving early. He doesn't care because it is his family.
Kate glad to know that a veteran was a lurker! So far I have made a few posts.   Not sure if I will follow through but at least I have improved! 
Have a happy day filled with good naps and good eating.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 18, 2005, 04:52:31 am
Kate-shucks you found us!!  we were trying to ditch you! :wink:  :lol:
just kidding of course!  so cute about the great grandma thing!

Richelle-praying for your saftety with the storm coming!  let us know everything is all right tomorrow please!

Traci-we have put Taylor down to sleep somewhere else and then got her up to go home about 8-10 times.  the first was on the 4th of July and i was freaked out, but of course all was well!  when we can we give her a bath, put her in her pj's and then put her to bed.  when we get home (which is usually around 9pm) we put her back to bed and then df as ususal.  Only once have we had trouble putting her back to sleep.  all other times she goes right back down.  good luck and I think all wil be fine.  I agree with Macaire~stay if you're having fun and leave if you are stressed.

alright ladies, I am exhausted!  we have a big day ahead of us!
Tomorrow we start BABY DANCE!  I am so excited to meet other moms and lo's in the neighborhood.  plus I signed up wiht a gal 2 blocks away who has a dd 2 weeks older than T, so looking forward to getting to know her.

wish us luck!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 18, 2005, 05:51:49 am
Hello again,

I have to keep checking to keep up !!

Nikki - That website is http://www.snugzeez.com.au

Traci - Could you maybe sit Cole in the pram or use your travel cot as a play pen or something? Also don't be shy to ask them to put dogs outside (Get DH to ask them). I have two dogs that fight sometimes, they are not inside but I automatically lock them in their kennels if people are bringing their kids outside. You never know what could happen - regardless of breed.

Richelle - Good luck with the storm, hope everythings OK

Kate - LOL at typing DH - it is still weird for me because we use it as short for " Head"  :lol:  :lol:

Bec
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 18, 2005, 06:12:40 am
Bec, they do look cute!

Funny about "DH", that's how I think of him all the time and have to make sure I don't actually say it in real life! LOL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 18, 2005, 11:36:16 am
thanks everyone for the tips on bedtime and going out and the dogs.  I will keep to his schedule and put him down as normal.  He was fine last time we were out for his nap, so hopefully bedtime will be the same.  The only issue may be how loud the house is (dogs barking etc) but I guess all we can do is try!

As for the dogs, we will try to keep them outside as much as possible.  If it's raining though they'll want to be in and it's hard to keep them trapped in a bedroom.  I may have to ask though if it's too crowded.  Have you ever seen where the dogs run the house!  This is the case here.  MIL will get off the sofa so the dog can sleep.  It's makes me so mad to tell you the truth.  They never should have gotten the second dog.  The first is a great dog on it's own.  It's a 7 year old Catahoula (Louisiana Farm Dog) though and doesn't get nearly enough exercise.  I think this adds to his irritability, that and the younger (lab/husky mix) dog always pestering him.

Bec-those bunnies are totally cute.

Richelle- sending you positive vibes that the storm passes you by.  Good luck.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 18, 2005, 12:04:12 pm
lab/husky eh?  Wow now there's a dog with excess energy!!  let us know how things go Traci

Richelle - thinking of you - what's up with the storm?

Loveys:  I started my older girls with one at about 6-7months.  I only ever had one of each item though.  THankfully they never got that attached to any one item.  Eventually they just picked whatever 'friend' they wanted for bed - or as many as they could get.  Some nights they only have their 'babies' and other nights every stuffy we have is on the end of their beds.  Zoe used to go to her crib (at about a year +) with thirteen 'friends' every nap and bedtime.  Barely room for HER in there. 

I've actually TRIED to get loveys for Kaia and Hannah but each time I've come home with something cute for them Zoe and Sarah take them over. :)

I'm so back and forth on the dreamfeed.  Didn't bother again last night.  Hannah woke at 10.30pm though but instead of simply picking her up to feed I patted her and she really just wanted a couple pats and was back to sleep.  Sadly though she wanted this also at 12.15am and again at 1.15am and 2.20am (when I decided to just feed her cuz I couldn't stand up anymore).  Then fed Kaia who only woke once at 4.00am, then Hannah needed patting again at 5.15am and 5.50am and a final pat that DH got up to do on his own at 6.10am.  Then they woke at 7.20am.  So I'm just thrilled to have slept right through the entire 3 o'clock hour! (where's the sarcasm emoticon?)

Soooo nice to have so many new gals joining us.  Any other lurkers should just POST.  Not a private club here!! :)  Glad to have all the support we can!!

Traci  Keep us posted on DH's exams!!  Big week - hope it goes quickly for you both!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 18, 2005, 12:40:47 pm
Hi

Thanks for the good vibes evereyone, the storm has not moved much over night but has manged to edge a little closer to us but I don't think enough for me to have to leave with Sophie.  Yes this would be the 3rd time i have had to fly off island due to a storm scare, such a pain :evil: .  Oh well, I will be keeping a close eye and here's to hoping Sophie and I can stay put.

Traci - We have friends with a dog and dh (lol  head now that is all I will think of) anyway dh hates going there as the dog loves to lick Sophie ect...at least it isn't dirty, I say good idea on the dark coloured clothes and blanket :shock: !  We have brought Sophie out and stuck basically to our routine and brought her blankets so she felt at home.  A couple of times she had a bit of trouble settling once we got home as she maybe thought that she had just had a nap - hard to say but it only took a half hour to get her back to sleep for the night.

LOL - judy about Zoe going to bed with all the stuffies and stealing the lovey's from the twins.

Q - anyone else having trouble with their lo's pulling their hair - their own hair :shock: !  Sophie is always pulling her hair lately?!

Welcome all newcomers - everyone should post, I didn't lurk and jumped right in and everyone here made me feel very welcome!

Have a great day everyone

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 18, 2005, 13:00:39 pm
Judy, thanks for the good wishes on the exam.  He's likely walking in as we speak.  It has been such a long road for us.  He never thought it would be this stressful.  He's doing his CMA (Certified Management Accountant).  He started last Sept. taking a course that would qualify him to write the exam.  The course was a substitute for taking about 6 university courses.  He had class every Sat. from 9-4 from Sept. until April.  He wrote 4 exams over that period, his final one being written 3 days after Cole was born :shock:   yep, he was studying in the delivery room! 

The exam he writes this week was supposed to be written in June but he felt he wasn't ready so he deferred it.  It made me really angry because I had bent over backwards for the first 6 weeks of Cole's life doing EVERYTHING so he could study.  Then he deferred and it pretty much ruined our summer :oops:   We haven't gone anywhere or done anything.  Well, he took June and some of July off...but would hum and haw and do bits of studying here and there so the weight of it was still on our shoulders.

It's been very stressful for me because although he is home, he's not really.  He's always studying, working or worrying about both.

Anyway, enough about that.  We all have stress in our life to deal with.  I know he will pass.  He's a really bright guy, just doesn't have much confidence in himself sometimes.  We won't find out until December or so if he passes.

okay, really, enough about that!

I gave Cole more rice cereal this morning-more than the last two days and he just keeps gobbling it up.  I made it thicker too.  He made a bit of a face at first but then was fine.  Can't wait to get to veges!  Actually, can't wait to move rice to dinner to see if it helps him sleep through!

Thanks for listening to my DH rant.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 18, 2005, 15:11:49 pm
Traci I hear you!!  I find it frustrating to have dh around while I do all the work - I'd rather he just go to work.  Usually when that happens he's out somewhere on the property working so not even in the house but I still *know* he's home and it bugs me.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 18, 2005, 16:03:08 pm
Traci... wishing your DH good luck!

Richelle... hope the storm misses the Caymans or at least, decreases in force. Take care of yourself and your family.

Kate... glad you found us after your trip to Chicago!

Whose definition of "DH" was I laughing my head off at?  :lol: 

We start swim lessons today. I am quite looking forward to it but wonder how I am going to get her dressed without freezing my a$$ off. Kate... how did you do it?

We are struggling with random night wakings. For 3 days, it was at 4 am so... on the 4th night, I was all set to do wake to sleep. She woke at 3 am. Last night, she woke at 2:15 am so I just nursed her  :oops: we have totally stopped all night feedings so I am now worried about starting that habit again. Oh well... survival, right?

Happy Tuesday everybody!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 18, 2005, 16:32:10 pm
I did it!  I caught up with you ladies and your 13 pages.  The ILs were here for the weekend, lovely people, but don't seem at all capable of cleaning up after themselves.  Fortunately, DH knows how much it bothers me and cleaned up quite a bit.  Now, we've all got colds - DH brought it home and Katie and I have both caught it.  Doesn't seem to be bothering her all that much, except she's been waking much more frequently at night - basically because she's too stuffed up to suck her thumb and put herself back to sleep.  So sad to watch - she'll stick her thumb in her mouth, suck, realize she can't breathe, take her thumb out of her mouth to breathe, get mad because she's not sucking her thumb, and it all repeats.  It's funny in a very sad kind of way.  So, we've been doing our best trying to get enough sleep without resorting to much accidental parenting, though I have done enough of accidental-on-purpose parenting the past few days.

Anyway, needless to say, there's not been a lot of time for this site.  Tomorrow, we're supposed to go to Puerto Rico for a long weekend.  DH is going for business and bringing us along.  I am SO nervous to fly with Katie - I'm sure she'll scream the entire flight and someone will yell at me to keep control of my baby.  And then I'll have to BF and Katie will whip off the blanket and expose my boob to an entire plane of people (which in my horrid visions I always seem to be standing in front of...)

Loved the pics from everyone - too many to comment individually almost!

Richelle - hope the storm passes you by.  Seems to be a smaller one so far, hope it continues like that. 

Traci - good luck to DH on the exam - mine is currently applying to grad school and it is such a pain to have him busy all the time and not really able to help out.  Oh, and we've taken Katie places before where we've put her to bed, stuck her in the car, and put her in bed at home and it's worked out fine.  I usually feed her when we get home. 

For whoever asked about solids - I've been giving Katie jarred baby food, which is about 2.5 ounces per jar - so at breakfast she gets half a jar of fruit mixed with about an ounce of EBM and a few tablespoons of cereal.  We also do new foods at breakfast so today she had a few spoonfulls of peas in addition to that (she did not like them at all!)   At lunch she has a jar of veggies which she usually finishes.  At dinner, we do a whole jar of fruit mixed with about an ounce of EBM and a good amount of cereal (I have no idea how much - I could measure if you want to know.)

Naomi - hang in - we don't have much family nearby and I have a ton of friends without kids who just don't seem to realize how much things have changed - and if I'm going to see them I can't go trekking into the city all the time and be out at the bars all night and come home the next day.

Ankie - when I take Katie swimming, I bring her infant seat - I wrap both of us in towels when we get out of the pool, get Katie dressed quickly into warm clothes, buckle her into her infant seat, and then get myself dressed.  Some moms in my class bring their strollers and put their LOs in there after they dress them.  Katie also had a hard time settling a few weeks ago (she does now too, but I think that's more because she's sick) - seemed to be related to teething and to the amount that she's now able to move around. 

Katie doesn't have a lovey, but she does have one of those rabbit head things, maybe I should start giving it to her at nap/bedtime.  Andrea - they do say the SIDS risk decreases after 6 months and once your baby can move around well, they're not at much risk for smothering themselves. 

Whew, think I'm caught up - oh yeah, hi to everyone new!  Always nice to see more (virtual) faces around here!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 18, 2005, 16:57:38 pm
hi to everyone!!  it's so hard to keep up with this thread now....everyday I have 3 pages of posts to read...impossible to catch up on or comment on!!   But a couple that stood out:

Traci: we have two big dogs, luckily they are very well behaved and not allowed on the furniture....but I would have no hesitations of locking them up (in the basement) if a friend or family member asked or even if any of their kids looked hesistant around them....I'd rather everyone have fun at my house rather than stress! :D   As for the hair....I'm meticulous about vacumming every couple of days but the fur still accumulates! :shock:   Maybe bring a change of clothes for cole so you don't track it into your car and carseat.HTH

Richelle: Good luck with the storm!!  We are keeping our fingers crossed for you!

I'm not sure who asked when Jackson's surgery is??  but it is booked for Nov. 9th.  we will possibly be in the hospital 1 or 2 nights.  Luckily DH is able to come home to help! :(

I also just started giving Jackson a lovey....I was a little apprehensive to give him one because of his spirited side....I thought it might keep him up and cause him to just play in bed. :shock:   So far so good!
We had an interesting morning so far...he woke from his morning nap after 30 minutes and talked to himself for about 10-15 and then put himself back to sleep!!!!! :shock:  :shock:  :shock:   can you believe that??!!!  I am shocked!  I'll have to keep ignoring him! :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 18, 2005, 18:24:57 pm
Hey, girls!  Just have a minute, but wanted to tell Ankie...the hardest part of the swim lessons is afterwards!  Ryan is in a "big boy seat" in the car, so I can't use the car seat, but that would be the best, I think.  Instead, I will take his Bumbo in or just grab some extra towels up front and lay him on the floor.  I usually make sure Ryan is dry and warm, then get myself dressed so I don't drip all over him.  Then, I get him dressed and pack up.  It is a pain, but so worth it!!!
Have fun!!!

~~~Good test vibes for your dh, Traci!!!~~~~
~~~Good airplane vibes for Erin and Katie!!!~~~
~~~Good storm vibes for Sophie and Richelle!~~~
~~~Good sleep vibes for the rest of us!~~~
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 18, 2005, 18:39:32 pm
Erin - I am a veteran flyer with Sophie and I have always traveled by myself with her.  These lo's are very portable and I think generally good flyers.  Obviously they should be eating or sucking for take off and landing so that their ears don't pop.  The popping ears is what produces those screaming babies :shock: !

Also for feeding bring at least 3 long blankets.  I would make a 'fort' in my seat tucking one corner of the blanket in the tray table then drape across yourself and the seatdo this on bith of you sides and you have a little fort and don't have to worry about any peep shows!!  I also found it helpful to have 'hanging toys' with velcro - these stick to the tops of airline seats.  i also never leave without my boppy pillow, it sounds strang and cumbersome but a must if you and baby are going to have a comfy and nonsweaty nap.

This is all coming back to me as I am still on the wire here not knowing if Sophie and I will be leaving island for a few days!

It seems as though everybody has their lo's in swimming lessons - what do you do?  I haven't had Sophie in a pool or the ocean yet but I am now thinking maybe we should? :?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 18, 2005, 19:26:26 pm
hey, hey

Richelle - I'm so glad you asked about the hair pulling!!! Sols constantly pulling at his hair during his BFs.  DH used to stand beside me and hold his hand but that creeped me out.  Now I just take my hair down and let him pull at it.  He's not gentle at all. Ouch!!
It sometimes works but I've also noticed his hair getting thinner where he pulls at it.

Thanks for the suggestion Nikki!! I stretched lo's a.m. nap by about 1/2 hour this morning.  He woke up at 5 & 7 but put himself back to sleep each time before getting up at 8:30.  This is very unusual since he's always up by 7.

Anyway, he woke up from his nap after 30mins but put himself back to sleep!! :shock:  :shock:
Who knew? :D

Happy naps, sleeps & eats to everyone!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 18, 2005, 20:11:17 pm
HI Everyone,

This forum moves very fast indeed.  What busy active lo's we have :D James is now crawling and pulling himself up.  Loves his solids.  I haven't been able to read up on everyone I will have to make some time tonight and read all the pages.  Anyway, just wanted to pop in and say hello and thought I would try and put a photo of James on. 

Just one question though, yesterday I clocked-watched and James went down very easily.  At exactly 2.5hrs of A time, even thought he was only just starting to rub his face etc, he seemed to go down with little fuss.  Only at his catnap did I have to give him a little pat and also at bedtime, but everytime he put himself to sleep.  I will try and do the same thing tomorrow. :)

l have to go back and read, but i thought Tracy said not to clock-watch.  Was I wrong with this? :?

Anway, if it works, I will use it, although everything seems to change from week to week. 

Lovely to hear that everyone is doing okay but it certainly makes me feel better that sometimes there are struggles as well. :oops:

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 18, 2005, 20:43:12 pm
Yay! DH is finally back to work acfter a long weekend and I am finally back to my little SAHM world...I am so scared of what life is going to be like when I go back to work!!  I am trying to enjoy every moment until then.  It helps me to know that, for example, Richelle is a working mom and still has time to post etc...this comforts me...strange huh?
So, dh turned 33 yesterday.  He took a day off of work, so I made the weekend into "the three days of dh's bday"...what was I thinking.?!  With 3 gifts, 3 dinners, etc., etc....
Needless to say, I kind of broke down on Sunday (in the middle of my fab weekend for him)  I was scrubbing the %$^#@ out of the pan that he cooked eggs in and left in the sink with coagulated egg gunk all over it....and just started to get furious. 
We blew off some steam sort of "yelling" at each other for a few minutes, then had a good talk, actually..I was surprised that we were able to do this.
During all of this, I really appreciated  my brief visits to the thread...especially the alternate aka for DH....love it!

Is everyone planning on chatting this week?

I just picked up a Nuby sippy cup after reading a thread about them in Hogg-watch.  She loved it!  I was so happy to see her suckig from the spout and drinking. wow! 
Also, we tried avocado today for the first time and she couldn't get enough. I am so happy about that one.  Such an easy meal.  She can have one half and I can have the other, mashed on toast :)

On the down side, she woke this morning at 4:30...she had a rough night last night, no cat nap, crying a bit before bed...a pain cry.  I think it must be her teeth.  Anyhow, when she woke at 4:30, I brought her into bed with us
 :oops:  Shame, shame....It's odd how your mindset (and of course how tired you are) can so effect your decisions at these early morning wakings...like Ankie, you said you fed Arwyn at 2:30am I think?  It just all depends on what has happened the day before and how you feel about it and you just have to go with your instincts.  I kept thinking she was still in pain and needed to be comforted. She slept, with us until about 7:30.  I was absolutely shocked.  Thankfully, she still goes down in her crib.  I used to be pertrified about putting her in bed with us thinking she would never go back to her crib.  But obviously it's not a pattern I want to continue.
I better stop here.  I am always sooo long winded.  Must be from growing up in Chicaqo.  The Windy city..did you know that it got that nick name from some politicians at a democratic national convention?, and not from the fact that it is very windy there?
Just a little meaningless trivia to lighten up your day/night.
Have a good one.
Good luck with the storm Richelle, I am thinking about you.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 19, 2005, 00:28:10 am
I just wrote a huge post and totally lost it - now I can't remember what I wrote??  :twisted:

Oh well here's the short version:

 :lol: @ Judy about night wakings. I know it's not funny to be awake all night but I love the way you can joke about it!

Erin- I've never had any trouble with the Rabbit Head Lovey Thingy - Halle likes to have it close to her face. I usually move it down near her hand before I go to bed. Last night when I did this SHE WOKE UP  :twisted:  :twisted: It took me an hour to resettle her  :twisted:

Ankie - my dd had only slept through the night twice until recently. Last week she slept through four times (well until about 5am) She is back to waking up once (or twice) so I was wondering the same thing - should I feed her when waking or not??
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 19, 2005, 01:05:36 am
hey we are in the chat room at the mo if anyone is up for it!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 19, 2005, 05:30:53 am
Swimming was great. I managed to get her changed quickly. I didn't put any clothes on her. I brought her fleece suit and just put her in that with her diaper. I has a hood and flip down hands and feet. She fell asleep in the car for the 5 minuted ride home and didn't even wake when I took her out of the convertible car seat and put her in the crib (not as gently as I would have liked.)

Anyway, had a MAJOR meltdown over the catnap. This is the second day in a row it happened. Before today, it happened 5 days ago and has been happening on and off. I am going to try to move her to 2 naps. It isn't worth the battle at the catnap anymore. She is so happy when I take her out of the bedroom and does not have any sleepy looks on her face so... I'm gonna give it a try.

For survival sake, I have made the decision to feed her if she wakes up at anytime other than 4 am, give or take 30 min. 4 am is her habitual waking and I really want to get rid of it. I know she can do it and I hope this crazy waking up will stop. I want my once a night wake ups back. Erin, I hope it is just a phase like Katie and Arwyn will snap out of it. I have a suspicion that it is developmental milestones that are causing them... I swear she "sleep crawls"!

Ta ta... sorry I missed the chat room. I went to bed when DD went to bed and just woke up (at 10 pm) only to go back to bed in an hour!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: herbst99 on October 19, 2005, 07:50:07 am
Hi there moms - I need some ADVICE!!
Lise - (7.5mths) - who has been sleeping through the night from 7:00 - 6:00 (sometimes would wake at 5:00 but will settle quickly) has now become a REGULAR waker - last night she woke 4 times - and this has been going on for the past 2 weeks!! Developmental things are sorted as she will roll on her tummy and continue sleeping ... or roll back. I've thought of teeth but her 2 bottom teeth broke through a week a go and is "growing" slowly - can't feel anything at top teeth. It might be the dummy (I pray not!!) but she is used to not using it to sooth at night (before she would get dummy when she goes to sleep and I remove it just before she falls fast asleep). She has a lovey - sleeps in sleeping bag. ONLY thing it might be is the DF - but this has been slowly taken away and we are into our 2nd week of no feed after 7:00pm (she gets 225ml at 7 so it is a GOOD feed) - she is on 3 solids and 4 bottles - no meat or diary yet ... ANY help would be greatly appretiated - I miss my uninterupted sleep (funny how quicky we become SPOILT!!!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 19, 2005, 11:17:17 am
Hi Everyone,

DH needed the computer last night to work on the second part of his exam (case).  Thanks for the good wishes.  He doesn't feel too good about the multiple choice, but no one I know that has written this exam ever feels confident after.  And DH has gotten 80 on exams that he didn't feel good about so i'm not worried.

Now, Happy Anniversary Ankie
Hope you have a wonderful day.

It looks as though Jack and Sol have made progress sleeping-yay for them!

Lisa-re: clock watching.  Tracy does say not to watch the clock but I think that their cues can be a little confusing at this age that's why so many of us focus a lot on A time.  When I clock watch now, it's a combination of A time and the actual time on the clock!  For eg. regardless of what time Cole wakes up now he has his best first nap at 8:30am, second at 11:45, catnap at 3:30, bed at 6:15.

Hannah- I read about the Nuby Sippy too and went to get it yesterday but the store I went to only had a pack of two that were yellow and purple/pinky.  couldn't have Cole going around with a pink cup!  Heading to Walmart today hoping they have the other colours.  Can't wait to see if it works.

Nikki-Good luck with Lise.  Not sure what could be.  I jinxed myself yesterday by telling DH Cole had stopped his early waking and I've been up since 5:10 today! Hope you can get it sorted out.  How are her naps?  Longer?  Shorter?  Is she overtired or getting too much sleep?  Maybe that's something to consider.  That's all I can think of.

Oh-and thanks to whomever suggested changing Cole's clothes so we didn't track in dog hair to the car etc.  I'll be putting him in his pjs and then into pack n play and then car...so hopefully that will work.  One dog gets hysterical in the basement so that's not an option.  we'll see! 

Okay, cole is sick of the exersaucer...time for cereal anyway.

bye ladies.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 19, 2005, 14:50:51 pm
hey girls, I just wanted to throw this out b4 I post elsewhere for help. It seems like Riley is had a major regression. She is good for one long nap a day, I am not kidding. I tried yesterday for 3hrs,yup 3, watching her cues and trying to keep on line with the routine, tries putting down at 10:30 she wouldn't go, it was 1:30 b4 she went down. She is perfectly content with staying up, not cranky, just hungry, IYKWIM.
I ould like her on the EASY routine, we had been kinda lax lately, and I am trying to get her back on it :roll:  :roll: .
Also, her solids have regressed aswell, she will take one big bite at the start of her feed, but then after that she take little tiny bites off of the end, almost as if she is testing it.
I am keeping a log of everything, I know it is going to take a while, but I know that for her to be going through more at night, she needs to get more calories in during the day, but how can I do that if she won't really take her solids, and is picky on her milk feeds.
Just looking for some suggestions on how to curb her in the right direction.
I may have missed this, but how many naps are you girls doing and what kind of solids and how often. I ask this as I could get Riley to take 1/4 jar of solids, but she wouldn't take a milk feed after, and even if I waited say an hour it didn't really help.
Anyhew, just looking for some pointers as I have really fallen off of the wagon here.....ooops!

OOOO, girls don't forget the chat tonight, there is a link to the chat room in the lounge, it starts at 9pm EST

Talk to you later girls
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 19, 2005, 15:40:27 pm
Hi, girlies!  Lise (glad to see you back, btw!  :) ):  My only thought is it might be the dreamfeed, which is what you thought, I think, if I can remember correctly.  If it's been going on for 2 weeks and you've taken away the dreamfeed for 2 weeks, that'd be my guess.  It's so confusing, isn't it?  I just dropped Ryan to 4 bf's instead of 5 so I'm waiting to see how that is going to affect his nights.  Good luck!!!

Naomi, We are still doing 3 naps over here most days.  Here is our quickie day at a glance.

7:00 wake (or will be after time change...we're pushing more towards 8 and then adjusting all times during the day.  Confusing!   :? ) and feed
7:45 or 8  breakfast (I need to wait awhile or he's too full!)
9:00:  first nap (90 mins.)
10:30  play
11:00  bf
11:45 or 12 lunch
12:30 or 1:00 nap (90-120 mins.)
3:00 bf
5:00 catnap (maybe)
6:00 dinner, bath, books, etc.
7:00 or 7:30 bf and bed!

Hope it's okay that it's sometimes more than 4 hours before the last bf, but with all the solids and stuff he doesn't seem hungry.  Ryan is a really good eater, so he will always eat after a big bf...but I do wait up to an hour in between so that could help him.
HTH
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 15:44:16 pm
Wow...so much has happened since I last posted...a new thread and 15 pages!!! I started reading the intros, and I love them. I'll have to finish later, but for now...I NEED HELP!!

I'll go ahead and introduce myself. I'm Nancy. I'm 33 years old and married to Steve who is a network analyst (something to do with networking computers together) for a medical company. We live in southwest Missouri. We've been married 3 years next week, dated for 2 before that, and were friends for 5 years before that. I was an editor for 10 years, now I'm a full-time mom and part-time freelance writer/editor. Olivia is our first. She's Textbook/Spirited. We have so much fun with her, but on her Spirited days (like today) I don't know what to do.

She's always been a good eater and sleeper. (With the exception of the occasional 45-minute nap syndrome). The only time she gets fussy is when she's tired. It all started this weekend. All day Sunday and Monday, she fussed...she wasn't happy unless she was being held and walked around. She didn't want to sit on your lap. She's had trouble sleeping...fights going to sleep, then wakes several times a night since Saturday night. (She usually goes right down and sleeps all night.) She went through a few days last week where she wasn't interested in eating. She'd only take 2-3 oz at a time from her bottle. Then all of a sudden, she was eating ALL the time. She's been on a 4-hour EASY since she was 4 months old. Her naps have been pretty consistent....until today...she's up after only 20 minutes. (And she was up for 2.75 hrs before her nap!) I tried everything to get her back to sleep and she just SCREAMED. So I got her up and she's fine...she's playing in her floor now.

I feel like someone switched my baby out with another one. I have no idea when she's going to eat or sleep or what she needs when she's fussy. I had to call DH on Monday to come home from work because I couldn't take it anymore. I haven't had to do that since she was a few weeks old! She got a tooth last week, so I thought that might have something to do with it. BUt she was fine up until the tooth came in...this all started after. She'll be 6 months on Sunday, so I thought it might be a growth spurt, but I just don't know.

Did anyone else go through this? Is it a growth spurt? Is it teeth? Is there anything I can do to keep my sanity?

Sorry for the long post, but I really feel like I'm losing it, and I knew you guys would understand.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 19, 2005, 16:18:39 pm
Hey Nancy,

Not sure why she went through a period when she didn't want to eat but it seems like it might be growth spurt.  Also, you said one tooth came in?  Maybe the other is close behind?  That's all I can think of unfortunately.

I need to work on a spreadsheet for DH ladies...fun fun fun.  Hoping to make the chat tonight but DH might still be on the PC to prepare for the rest of his exam tomorrow.

(((hugs))) Nancy...hang in there.

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 19, 2005, 16:31:24 pm
Nikki... Does Lise go back to sleep quickly after waking at night? She may just be startling awake due to increased mobility. We are struggling with the same thing... increased wakings and now, staying up as well. I am still chalking it up to developmental milestones as she is getting SO mobile. Like you, I changed one thing 2 weeks ago... I no longer fed at 4 am. Well... it may be coincidence but that was when increased wakings happened. Perhaps Lise is just trying to get used to no dreamfeed. BTW, what time was your DF when you took it away? It could be that she still needs a little bit of a top-up.

Naomi... when Arwyn doesn't want her solids, we just leave it. We try 2 more times after we get the pursed lips and if she continues, the food goes away. We now need to distract her with something if we want her to continue eating. I put 5-6 Cheerios on her tray and that gives her enough to do while I continue to feed. It is a bit messy though  :roll:  (I know, Cheerios has wheat in it...  :oops: )

About her awake times, Riley may be trying to adjust her own A time for the middle of the day. Is her A time still the same before the first nap? I know that Arwyn has increased A time between nap #1 and #2 and is trying to drop the catnap. SO... could this be it? Also, when you get Riley back on track with EASY, she may take more milk. I found that Arwyn can go longer than 5 hours now that she has solids. I really concentrate on getting a full BF each time. She is also getting very picky... will only take one breast for only 2 or 3 min. sometimes. HTH

Nancy... sounds like a growth spurt to me. Random wakings at night usually indicate this even if Olivia doesn't eat. I don't have anymore advice other than what I gave Nikki... don't know if Olivia is going through developmental stuff as well. I am sending you "de-stress" vibes... good for you on calling DH... I did so yesterday too, left a message that his daughter was having a major meltdown and I wanted to share that with him. Made me feel instantly better.  :D  Hang in there... this too, shall pass. Now how many times have we heard that?  :roll:

Traci... THANK YOU! We are going to a lovely restaurant tonight. It is on top of a mountain with a beautiful night view... we have been going for 3 years now and our anniversary coincides with their fall special where you get a 3 course meal for $27!!! I would eat there anyway at regular prices but it is even better when you get a fabulous delicious meal for a great price!!!

See you guys later!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 19, 2005, 16:32:31 pm
nancy, I am not joking when I say this, but i am in the same boat as you, I could hardly believe it whenI read it, I could've written it.
The only thing I could give you for advice is take each day at a time, and I am keeping a log of everything she does, to keep me on track and see if there are any improvements each day.
I keep trying to keep Riely on track etc, but try is all I can do.
Sorry I suck for advice, I am as lost as you are, but I had to let you know that you are definitely not alone.
Join us in the chat tonight, it starts at 9pm eastern, burn off a little steam, have a chat, it will do you the world of good....
Ankie- thanks for the tips, Riley did eat 3/4 jar of apples and bananas for lunch, she needed a bit of coaxing, but I think she needs a little practice as we have slipped off of the solid train as well.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 17:12:06 pm
Hi Ladies,
wow can't believe I went a whole day without posting!  :lol:
We were busy yesterday and I have to say that I finally had a full night sleep without Taylor making a peep after he df to 7:30 am!  I am not trying to make anyone jealous, because believe me her ngith wakings have been going on for about 5 weeks now!!! :evil:

A few things I can think of that helped her sleep so soundly, so maybe it can trigger some thing Nikki, Naomi and Nancy:

1. we had our first day of Baby Dance which overall is a mellow class but she got to see lots of other babies and was up a solid 2.5 hours before her nap and slept for 1.5 hours (naps have been off track for the last 2 weeks).
2. She had a huge poopy!!  she hadn't gone in 5 days which is very unusual for her.  MIL said after taht poop, she was so tired she had to lay down for her cat nap! (cat naps have also been off track lately).
3. I gave her last feed at about 6:15 as opposed to after her bath at 7 and so she wasn't fussy at all and had a good feed.
4. she was in bed by 7 as opposed to 7:30 (in the Weissulbuth book it says if they are having a lot of night wakings to try and get them to bed 15-20 minutes earlier).

So who knows what caused her to sleep soundly, but I;ll take it!

Naomi, Nikki and Nancy, you have got ltos of other good suggestions.  I too think it may be developmental stuff :roll:   Nikki, how long do you let Lise try to settle herself at night before going in?  We have been waiting 5 minutes before we go in and sometimes she surprises us and goes back to sleep (I don't consider thsi CIO, as she is not crying, just fussing).
Naomi, like I said Taylor's naps have been really inconsistent lately...45-1 hour in the am, and the at least 1-1.5 hours in the pm and if we're lucky a catnap.  she has just started eating better with her solids in the last day and a half. 
For her first feed she only eats a few bites of fruit.  Then for lunch she eats 1 ice cube (1/2 jar) of sweet potato and a little more fruit.  Then at dinner about 1.5 tbs of rice cereal and some fruit.

I think this post is long enough!  Hope we all get these LO's sorted out soon!  I will try to make the chat tonight, but that means it is 6 pm PST so right in the middle of dinner/bed time ritual.  If I don't make it have fun!

BTW, T is 6 months today!  I can't believe it has gone by so fast!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 17:15:20 pm
Traci-one more thing I forgot to tell you.  I have to say I couldn't quite believe that Cole was crawling already (not that I didn't believe you, just that I couldn't imagine it!) :P

anyhow, yesterday in our class there was a lo that is 2 weeks older than T and she was crawlign like crazy!!  I guess I had to see it with my own eyes!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 17:24:52 pm
Thanks so much for all your encouragement and advice, ladies! All your kind words actually made me tear up a bit (of course, I'm sleep deprived and frustrated, so it doesn't take much!). After her 20 minute nap, Liv played happily for a while, then got fussy. I fed her...she took a full bottle (after refusing it an hour earlier) and fell asleep. She's been asleep since...that was almost an hour ago!!

Naomi, I'm so sorry to hear you're going through the same thing, but it's nice to know I'm not alone and that my child is not just some freak of nature!  :lol:

Thanks for the info on the chat. I'll try to make it. That's my time with DH, but I'll try to break away for a bit. Well, off to grab a bite of lunch before Ms. Cranky Pants wakes!

Hope all are having a better day than Naomi and I are!  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 17:25:06 pm
Thanks so much for all your encouragement and advice, ladies! All your kind words actually made me tear up a bit (of course, I'm sleep deprived and frustrated, so it doesn't take much!). After her 20 minute nap, Liv played happily for a while, then got fussy. I fed her...she took a full bottle (after refusing it an hour earlier) and fell asleep. She's been asleep since...that was almost an hour ago!!

Naomi, I'm so sorry to hear you're going through the same thing, but it's nice to know I'm not alone and that my child is not just some freak of nature!  :lol:

Thanks for the info on the chat. I'll try to make it. That's my time with DH, but I'll try to break away for a bit. Well, off to grab a bite of lunch before Ms. Cranky Pants wakes!

Hope all are having a better day than Naomi and I are!  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 19, 2005, 19:14:58 pm
Happy 6 months, Taylor!

We are currently spinning around and around in our crib, using the rungs as push off points while screaming until our voice gives out.  :roll: Wish me luck with a nap or my sister (the babysitter tonight) will have a rough night!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 19, 2005, 19:33:24 pm
Nikki, Naomi and Nancy {{HUGS}} - I think that you have gotten some great advice, some that I may heed. 

May I also suggest Tylenol?  For those of you not wanting to dope your baby I understand but Sophie who is an angel has been very clingy for the last 2 days.  She has her bottom 2 teeth in and they didn't seem to bother her but usually I can just plunk her anywhere and she wiggles around and plays.  Not so, I would put hr down and if I went out of sight she would cry  :(  Sophie very rarely cries.  I have many theories as to why - one of which is the nanny never puts her down :evil: Today I stayed home from work as Hurricane Wilma passed us within 150 KMH PHeww but the storm surge is very erratic and we live right on the water - still looks ok, hopefully it stays that way.  Anyway, this morning it was the same and alot of ear pulling and rubbing eyes and nose and whimpering, I was at my wits end carrying around my chunker babes for the past 2 days so gave Tylenol a try and it seemed to do the trick she even ate her lunch better and I had Sophie back! 

FYI - This is our day, as I do not feed her Milk and solids at different times it just did not work for us and she is no longer breastfed so I am not sure if that helps..

6-630 - wake up
7 - 2TBS Cereal, 2oz fruit + 180ml formula (she usually has 60 ml before the solids but she drinks it in her chair)
9 - Nap
1030 - Wake Up
11 - 2 to 4 oz Veggies + 180ml formula
1 - Nap
230 - Wake up
3 - 180ml formula
430 to 515 Cat nap
515 - 2 TBS Cereal + 2 to 3oz veg + 2oz Water
645 - bath
7 - 730 - 180 ml formula straight to bed

FYI - as part of our nap time routine Sophie has a bottle of water in her room for the day and has a few sips before she goes to sleep.  We also stick to the clock not her tired cues which the last few days has been hard as Sophie has been cranky and rubbing her eyes from 1 hour after she got up???  I hope that helps and I am not sure what everyone else's routine's or as my DH calls it 'regimes' go. 

Wow long post, I am just glad we have kept power ect...with the weather.  The condo below us is getting flooded by the storm surge, a very scary 4 feet!! 

All please pray for those in Cuba and Mexico, then Florida as this is the biggest Hurricane EVER recorded and what we are experiencing now is scary enough and we are far west of it.  Click here for a look if you like.  http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USNationalWide.asp?loc=usa&seg=StormCenter&prodgrp=FloaterImagery&product=Float2Loop&prodnav=none&pid=none

Hopefully I will be around for the chat, if the weather eases up I may try to go in to the office and get some work done.

I must go wake Sophie from her nap.....

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 19, 2005, 19:35:21 pm
OMG knew I forgot something.........

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY ANKIE - HAVE FUN TONIGHT!!

HAPPY 6 MONTHS TAYLOR!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 19:50:45 pm
Richelle, It sounds like Sophie and Olivia are in cahoots. Olivia has been clingy as well. She was fine yesterday, but we went to a Mommy & Me group and I think she was distracted by all the other kids. Then she was too pooped to be fussy. But Sunday, Monday, and again today, I can hardly put her down without her fussing. She's OK if I'm right there. And usually she will play contentedly in her floor or crib while I pop in and out getting some things done.

I have used Tylenol, but sparingly...only at bedtime. It does seem to help. I may have to start using it during the day, too. I don't know how much more of this I can take!

Thanks for the tip. And hang in there...our prayers are with you as you enure Wilma. My sister and her family are in Florida, so I am watching the path closely.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 19, 2005, 19:59:23 pm
Happy Anniversary Ankie!!!  Hope you have an excellent evening out!!

I'd love to give advice on sleep ladies - but - who'd listen to me  :P

Solids too - hmmm, how many ladies started then stopped solids?  I know some have been back and forth (Naomi & Nikki come to mind).  I'm not making progress here with it.  After almost 2 (or is it 3??) weeks Hannah is still only opening up for MAYBE 1 bite a DAY (I offer 3x each day now).  Kaia likes it but still only takes a few bites at each meal.   My other girls took right off with it.  Sarah went in reverse once weaned to formula as she preferred milk to food but we cut back the milk and she was game again. 

Maybe I need to try a different brand?  Using Heinz right now - samples from dr..  Also have them in infant to toddler booster type chairs that do recline.  They attach to the kitchen chairs... wondering if they aren't liking them as they seem to be unhappy most of the time they are in the chairs.  I should pull up the highchair from downstairs but I'm afraid they'll really like that and then I'll need a second one.  I don't have a very big kitchen and it's nearly impossible to pass through it now with the table & chairs, 2 exersaucers, sometimes 1 or 2 rocking chair sitters....  oy, can you imagine 1 or 2 highchairs too??

I even cooked up some squash from the garden today but they weren't overly thrilled with that either.  Sarah liked it though  :lol:

Not sure if I'll make chat.  I should but I found before that I'd be stuck there till almost midnight which isn't such a good thing right now.  It is fun though!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 19, 2005, 20:18:49 pm
Judy, yes we've been back and forwards on the solids issue for about 4/5wks now.  But I'm finally beginning to get a break through.  Danielle seems to be one of those babies that need the same food offered at least 10 times before she thinks it's ok.  Yesterday, for the first time she ate about 2 Tbspns baby rice (up until then maybe one bite and spit LOL) - I really don't want to do BR but it seems such a pain and a waste to make heaps of pumpkin for her to spit it out.  But I intro'd pumpkin yesterday and will work on that for a few weeks.  We also have one of those booster high chairs, but Danielle loves hers.

Oh, Nathan also likes the left overs and also steals any new toys that Danielle gets. :roll: 

Naomi, was lovely chatting to you yesterday!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 20:36:37 pm
jsut a suggestion on the sweet potatoes/squash eating.  Taylor was not too keen on them (the Gerber brand and my own that I made for her) until I strated mixing a little pears with them and she gobbles them up.  I figured it was ok to mix the 2 since pears is what we started out with and she's been eating them for almost 2 weeks now.

now if I could just get her to eat avocado without gagging! :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 19, 2005, 20:37:17 pm
oh yeah, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY ANKIE!!!

have a blast tonight and some romance too! :P
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 19, 2005, 20:43:50 pm
Andrea-sorry about the avocado problem. We seem to have the opposite situation here...she can't get enough.  I need a tree.  Happy 6 months to Taylor.

Naomi, don't know if this helps but we are doing ebm first then solids about an hour or so later.  She's been all over the map on how much she'll take, especially at the 11 and 3 feedings.  Someimtes the bed time feeding is really bad too (the bottle).  The df and morning bottle feeds are the best.  Lunch and dinner are the best times for her for solids.  Sorry I just missed you guys in the chat last night.  Looking forward to tonight.

Nancy Nikki Naomi--hang in there.  I am sure you have all noticed that nothing seems to last for long...this too shall pass.  (It will probably pass right on to my house, as I have been noticing is the case with some of the other issues posted here :D )
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 19, 2005, 20:57:29 pm
Ach, I wasn't done!  No way I could get away with that small of a post!!

Traci- hope you like the Nuby's...that is funny about the colors, and yes I was pset that I had to buy two as well...we are going to have a mountain of sippy cups after this is all over.  It's funny, I always thought I would NOT care about colors with here, in fact I was completely against pink for her before she was born...but now, it's a totally different story! It only takes one time of someone saying "what a cute little boy!"  and I want to dress her head to toe pink.
 :lol:

I have to agree with Richelle about the tylenol thing.  I bet alot of these lo's issues are due to the pain of cutting teeth which they can feel long before you see any signs. (So I've heard) Again, I never thought I would want to drug my child.  I have criticized friends for using it, but I really think it helps.  And I don't use it all the time, maybe once during the day if it seems like she is really struggling (ie: drooling a ton, fingers in her mouth, crying, rubbing things on her gums)  I figure, you know, if I have really bad cramps/headache/whatever, I would take it....so why not her?

Richelle, I cannot believe the looks of that hurricane.  OMG.  I am thinking about you in the storm. 

I think that's all...now for me:
I went to our local co-op today for groceries...I always feel guilty shopping at the SUPER-market.  It was a nightmare.  The carts are too small, the aisles are too small, the clipbaords that you ahve to write all of the plu numbers on are too small.  I had to carry Sophie in in the new native which was ok, but a little hard to put bulk items in bags and make sure everything is labeled.  Plus they just didn't have half of what I was looking for.  So...I guess it's back to the supermarket for this mommy.  I can put Sophie in the BIG cart in her comfy seat and have my hands free to buy lots of genetically engineered foods. Yum! (insert sarcasm emoticon here)
We are off to the doc for my annual and her 6 month appt and shots.  Ugh. DH is leaving work early to meet us there.  Thank goodness.  She has been all over the map again today.  45 minute naps and tired as a result.  Plus, she spit up all over me and he carrier in the coop. That was fun. 
Does anyone else have a "spitter"?  I am going to ask the doc about it today...I have looked it up online a million times and continually am assured that it's natural and she'll grow out of it. In the meantime, it's disgusting!
Ankie- Happy anniversary! Have fun at dinner.  And, we have to talk some more, Sophie seems tobe rejecting the cat nap as well.  What's your plan?  Fighting with her every night for an hour is no fun...any ideas?

you all are wonderful!!
See you tonight.
Hannah
PS Just in case this wasn't long enough, I've attached a pic of Sophie...although she's not crawling yet she manages to get around!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 19, 2005, 21:23:02 pm
thank you for the suggestions on Riley, both of them have been better today, Jay has been amazing, his new thing is to kiss the mouth, then nose, then each eye, each ear and then the head. Maybe I am being initiated into something i don't know about :wink:  :wink:
Riley was good on her solids too, for some reason she likes the combo things, like apples and blueberries, she had 1/2 a jar, and she would only take a bite or two with just the apples on their own.
Thank you sooo much for the support over the past couple of days, I forgot how much this place gets me through my days at times.
Judy - you should pop on the chat sometime, it would be so nice to see you there, that is my once a week late night "treat", maybe more if there are other chats during the week.
I think next week i am going to try heading out of the house again, the way Jay has been I haven't even tried it, but  maybe by monday my batteries will be recharged to try again once more.
Richelle - so nice to hear you are okay, I was thinking of you today and am so glad that you got word out to us.
Take Care everyone, especially the "lurkers", come join in the fun sometime, we only nibble you the first couple of times..... :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 19, 2005, 21:34:49 pm
OMG too cute Hannah - I went into the kitchen the other morning and left Sophie on her play mat when i came back in the room she wasn;t there - I found her under the desk a few feet away, I should have taken a picture but i was sort of panicked and grabbed her up!!!  Also my Sophie is a puker -  :?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 19, 2005, 22:50:37 pm
Hi Again,

You ladies seem to be all such good mates, I still feel weird about posting for fear of 'butting in' (but I do it anyway :lol: ).

Happy Anniversary to Anke and Happy 6months Taylor!

Richelle that storm sounds scary  :( Hope all ok

Kate and Richelle - thanks for posting your schedules, it's interesting to know what babies around the same age are doing. A lot of you are having the same problems as me so this thread is SO helpfull.

Just a question about 'fussing'  Fussing is not a term we use here in Australia so I was just wondering what it means exactly. I have been leaving dd a few minutes before going in to her. She is kind of yelling (LOUD) but not crying. I wait until it's a full blown cry before going into her. I have worried that is CIO ( :( I hope not. ) so sometimes I will go to her - so now I am worried that I am not consistent :?  :?

Hannah - that photo of Sophie is so cute. I am the same as you with the 'pink'. I really wanted a boy, only because I LOVE the name Hamish. When we discovered we were having a girl I decided to call her Hannah! But then my SIL gets a boyfriend with a daughter named Hannah :evil: I was determined she was not going to be a 'girly girl' so no pink was used in her room at all. I didn't buy many pink clothes etc etc. Recently I 'pinked-up' her room with pink clothes, pink paint, pink lamp, pink toys, pink grobag, pink sheets, pink rug,.................. :lol:

Cheers everyone have a good day
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 19, 2005, 22:57:34 pm
Hi all,
Firstly, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, ANKIE and HAPPY 6 MONTHS, TAYLOR.
Just wanted to pop in and say that. We are having a fun day here (insert sarcasm emoticon!) so I must dash! Will try and check in during the chat but have no idea about times so will have to pop into the chat room and see who is there.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 19, 2005, 23:13:30 pm
Hey Everyone,

I feel I have a million things to say so I'll try to abbreviate each and keep it short.

Andrea-good sleep certainly due to #4, earlier bedtime!  It works and I advertise it all over this site.  Cole went down about 20 min. late last night and presto-up at 5:10 this morning.

Richelle- hope things stay okay over there.  glad you're not on the bottom floor :D

Hannah- no cups in stock at the store I went to (not walmart) so I'll have to try walmart tomorrow.  phooey!  Cole is a spitter on occasion...i find he does when he's overtired...does it just before i put him down.  Love the pic...the inquisitive look on her as she looks around the corner kind of.

Now for us:
Cole's mobility is just crazy.  He has crawled up that one step 3 times today unassisted and climbed up the first three stairs of the main staircase!  He got into a plant so i moved the plant only to uncover a very dusty air return vent :cry:  While I was cleaning the vent he was hanging around the area and all of a sudden i noticed he was bleeding :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  He cut his finger (from cuticle to first knuckle) I am assuming on the corner of the vent.  I was so worried trying to figure out how to stop it bleeding.  DH convinced me just to rinse and leave it.  I fed him early so he wouldn't be crawling around and it kind of clotted up and then he licked it and it stayed clean.  phew.  what else.  He pulls himself up on the coffee table and sofa.  so crazy as the top of the sofa is even with or higher than he is standing.  OH, and i popped him in his crib to go the bathroom and when i went back he was standing!  I have to lower the mattress tomorrow.  That's going to make pupd so much harder now.  And I felt something go in my back last night as i was leaning over.

DH and I tried on his halloween costume today and it's way too cute.  Q:i would like to paint his nose and put whiskers on him (Lion).  Is anything safe for baby skin?  He won't even be able to participate in real Halloween because he goes to bed so early, so we're dressing him up for the neighbours on Sunday and we have a 1st b-day to attend sunday for brunch as well and they want the los dressed up.

okay, gotta go.  DH is eating dinner and it's our only time together today.

hoping to make the chat.

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 20, 2005, 00:42:03 am
Hi Everyone,

I'm going to make this short - I'm at work after all  :lol:  :lol:

Things have been very rough at our place.  Nikki, Nancy and Naomi (LOL!) we are going through exactly the same thing with the difficulty in settling etc.  Fraser decides on many occassions not to nap - especially weekends when DH and I are both at home.  Too much going on perhaps (and we don't even leave the house  :roll: ).

I finally bit the bullet on Monday and went to see my GP about how I am feeling.  She has offered me meds for PPD but because I am still breastfeeding I have declined for now.  I am going to see how I go with out first - but I really feel like I am drowning.  At least I have started to tell some of my family how I am feeling so they are trying to help out a bit more.

I wish you all lived nearby - I really need to just stop and have a coffee with good friends (and you all feel like my good friends).  If only we could just hold each other's LO's on those days when we'd really prefer to throw them out the window, and really give each other a break!

Anyway, that's my sad story.  Take care everyone!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 20, 2005, 01:39:37 am
Hugs Jo!!!  I hope your family can come and help out, just make sure they're helping out in things that make a difference to you, ie house chores if that's what you prefer rather than just holding Fraser - unless that is the better option for you.  For me in those early days it was doing the routine of housework that got me through the mayhem.

Judy, just thought I'd add something else about Danielle and her solids drama.  Today when I did pumpkin for lunch she kind of made her arrrr noise with tongue out, this went on for about 5mins and I just casually kept adding a bit in there on her tongue and gave her another spoon dipped in it (it was actually a mix of pumpkin and the baby rice - not too thick, kind of like a smoothie).  Then I started to hold the spoon at her lips and she started to kind of lap/drink it off there!  This is actually what happened yesterday as well when she ate all the rice cereal.  Strange!  Anyway, thought I'd let you know and see if that works for you. 

Traci, that's just crazy Cole getting into things like that already!  I'm kind of laughing though, because it sounds just like Nathan was and I'm sort of relieved not to be running around mad from an early age this time.  :wink:

Bec, to me fussing is kind of coughing noise, intermittent with pauses, not a distressed baby, kind of cranky, just kind of saying come and get me or something, no tears.  Dunno, it's hard, Danielle doesn't cry a lot but when she does it's a full on loud cry with no pausing, face goes red and tears.

Hannah, Danielle has really big spit up days (like soak her top type, big mouthfuls of spit/milk come out), I don't know what triggers it (possibly something I eat), but she's not bothered by it, so I just go with it, I personally haven't been to the doctor about it, Nathan was the same and outgrew it around 8mths.

Danielle slept until 4.30am last night which was a long sleep for her, so I wonder if the rice cereal at dinner helped or whether it was just another of her fluke sleep throughs?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 20, 2005, 02:27:17 am
Bec never ever ever feel like you are butting in.  Silly girl!!

Jo  {{{hugs}}}  Hey I'd LOVE to have coffee with you!!  I could use to get out :)  Lean on us here - and take all the help from family you can.

Nikki thanks for the info on solids.  I think it's just going to take a while I guess - just like a good night's sleep.  :wink:   I'll try what you suggest.  If I walk away from the table Zoe or Sarah try to feed the girls and they DO seem to like this, if only they didn't get the spoon jammed down their throats. :(  I actually remember having to let Zoe feed Sarah her cereal because she just seemed to take it better that way.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 20, 2005, 02:48:37 am
Happy Anniversary, Ankie! Hope you had a great time!

Sorry I didn't make it to the chat, ladies...had to go grocery shopping. DH offered to do bedtime, so I took my chance to get out alone!

As for solids, Olivia's been eating cereal for about 4 weeks now...she took right to it. Rice first, then oatmeal. I've tried to introduce sweet potatoes, but she wasn't too interested. Of course that was when she stopped eating altogether (right before her tooth came in), so I stopped trying. I'll try again once we're past the teething thing.

I'm having a hard time figuring out how to work the solids and bottles into the schedule. Does anyone do solids first? Then bottle? We've tried bottle first, then solids an hour later; solids then bottle right after; and solids first and bottle an hour or so later. She just doesn't seem interested in the bottle at all until late in the day. She doesn't want anything to do with it in the morning...even when I offer it first. Has anyone run into a similiar situation?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 20, 2005, 02:58:36 am
no problem nancy, nice to know you got out on your own tho. well I simply had to come and do a little bragging.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 20, 2005, 02:59:14 am
Thanks Nikki and Judy - just keeping on trying to  :)   (This too shall pass, this too shall pass...)

Nancy - wouldn't it be great to have a "solids consultant" like they have "lactation consultant's"!  We have been trying what I've read is called two-tier feeding.  Fraser is still breastfed so I give one side, then solids, then the other side.  When he is having a bottle of EBM he has about 2/3 of the bottle, then solids, then offer the other side.  (Obviously only at the 7am and 11am feeds)  Otherwise he was filling up on the milk (he drinks a lot of milk each feed) and we were not making any progress with the solids.  But I didn't want to go to solids before milk because I know the milk is the primary source of nutrition at this stage so I didn't want to adversely effect him drinking his milk. 

Anyway... it seems to be working for us and he is taking both quite well.  He slept last night 7.00pm - 5.00am which is one of our best nights ever so something was working.  Oh, maybe that was because I fed him one side in the bath last night - I've been trying to work out how to keep him awake for the final feed because he usually passes out during the feed and doesn't get a full feed - or maybe not enough to fuel him through the night.  Anyway, that seemed to work well, although not a practical long term solution it will do for now!

Oh Naomi, just saw the new pic of Riley - she is SO CUTE!!

Bye for now...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 20, 2005, 03:15:02 am
Jo, Yes! It would be wonderful to have a solids consultant! I even asked the pediatrician, but she just said, "People do it differently, so find what works for you." That was not much help!

I like how you're doing it...I've tried everything else. I might have to give the two-tier feeding a try. Thanks!

Naomi, adorable picture!![/b]
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 20, 2005, 03:31:13 am
jo..i hope you are feeling better...I also was just recently put on meds for PPD and it has helped HUGELY with being able to enjoy Jackson and not get so stressed over his sleeping, eating, pooping, etc....I"m still not sleeping but hopefully that will come with a little more time :)   Keep your chin up and if your not feeling better meds have made me be able to smile and laugh again....and like I said ENJOY Jack again...HTH
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 20, 2005, 03:37:23 am
Hi Everyone.

I know others posted recently but jsut wanted to pop in to say HUGS to JO.  I am glad you say your doc and wanted to say that you can take Zoloft and Paxil and cont. bf.  I am not trying to push meds, but want you to feel that there is an option.  I and many others on this site have taken zoloft or paxil while BF to deal with PPD.  I was lucky that I only had to take it for 4 months and no real side effects.
good luck to you. 

have you looked into any mom's groups?

soooo cute Naomi :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 20, 2005, 05:37:26 am
Hi!  Hope everyone is doing well.  Ben is very picky about solids like some of your LOs.  I mix different things together (fruit with fruits and cereal with veggies), give him ten minutes to get used to liking his food (since I made 2 trays of sweet potato, he better like them!), make a variety of airplane noises, give him a break with some toys-then remove the toys, I have also held him twice when eating and he liked that.  I don't think I will continue to do that :lol:   I really want him to eat solids on a regular basis but I am getting better about stopping after he is spitting it out and trying later on in the day.  He doesn't like solids in the morning at all because I think that is his biggest BM feed.  I think that Ben has been having some problems with eating solids because of teething and gas but not positive.  If only I could get inside his head!
Hannah-Ben is a spitter upper too.  Today he did it 3 times small amounts.  I have been telling the doctor about it since the get go.  FINALLY at his 6 month appointment he barfed on the examining table and the doctor said, he may have a little reflux but didn't seem concerned at all so I am trying not to be.
Jo-I have been on a variety of meds for depression and anxiety.  I have been off them since 4 months before I got pregnant.  I find that if I excercise daily, take out as much caffeine/sugar in my diet as I can and breathe A LOT I make it through with smiles.  IF you want to PM me please do.  I have been working on it for a long time. Hugs to you.
Here is our schedule for the most part.  Today the little cherub woke up at 5, had two 30 minute catnaps and didn't go back to bed until 12:45!

6:30-7:00 wake and play in crib
7:00 BF
7:30-9:30 A
9:30-10:45 S
11:00 BF
11:30 solids 2 cubes veggie 2TBS cereal
1:00-3:30 S
3:30 BF
5:30 solids 2 cubes veggie or fruit 2 TBS cereal
6:15 bath
6:45 BF
7:00 nightie night
He has been extending his afternoon nap this week so I have been taking out the cat nap after 2 days of screaming.  He seems to be fussy after 6, wants to be held or talked to while he is playing.  I am trying to save a special toy or activity for this time to really satisfy him!  I think that he is having a little bit of seperation issues so I pop my head back in the room frequently and make a game out of it, or let him fuss a bit come in say hello then leave again. I also turn on music with voices.
Once again so nice to know that my baby is having similiar growing pains as yours.  How long do we have things figured out when they go and change... 24 hours or 20 minutes!?
My prayers are with you all, along with thanks that I belong to a special club that you can only be in if you are a woman and have a child, mommyhood!
Macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 20, 2005, 05:46:39 am
Phew, finally finished reading the last 7 pages. Away for 2 days and look what happens. Hugs to everyone who needs them for support and congratulations, please apply whichever is appropriate :lol:  :(  :lol:

It was my birthday on Tuesday and as my DH had to go away first thing in the morning and I had no-one to spend the day with (except Daniel of course) as my good friend was also away, I decided to ring a friend who lives a couple of hours away and go to stay earlier than planned. I didn't tell her why I wanted to come earlier than planned, as I felt silly saying why. To cut a longish story short, she had been emailed by another friend (are you still with me here) telling her it was my birthday, so she bought a cake and present for me and kept it a surprise until dinner! I was so shocked and touched.  :D So my day ended up being really nice and I didn't feel alone.

To make things better Daniel had slept thru the night before so that was good too. He didn't quite make it thru the nights while we were away but went from 6.30pm - 4.30amish so that was good enough for me. However today he decided not to sleep at all, except for some of the car trip home, so from 6am until 5.45pm he only had 1.25h sleep! Hence the early bedtime! He wasn't grumpy unless I tried to put him down, when he'd scream, so I just got him up. I wasn't too worried, which made me feel really good, if that makes sense. In the past I would have stressed about it, but today.... hey..... it's only one day (I hope!)

Anyway, just wanted to come back and say hello to you all.

Oh and incase there's anyone else who's as Christmas crazy as I am, I bought 2 Chrissy decorations today to take up to Auckland for my mum and best friend. It's a tradition we have to exchange a decoration each year. Anyway, it was soooo great going into a Christmas shop and hearing carols playing it got me all excited!  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 20, 2005, 05:50:07 am
Hayley-Happy belated birthday.  SO glad that your friend made your day, brought tears to my eyes!  I am super excited for Christmas too!  Can't wait for Ben to watch all of the lights!  I am off to bed.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 20, 2005, 11:39:51 am
(((Hugs Jo))).  Glad you're sorting things out with your doc. 

Hayley-Happy Belated Bday!  Did you tell us before and it just got lost in all these pages??

I forgot to mention one thing yesterday girls.  Cole extended a nap by himself for the first time!  Usually when he has a 45 min. nap I try to go in and extend it but then he just wants to play. I KNEW he was tired yesterday because he'd been up since 5:10 am.  Anyway, he cried for about 5 minutes and went back to sleep for another 45 so I was really excited.  He did it the day before but then woke after 5 minutes so I didn't really count it.

Andrea-I put Cole down at his regular bedtime of 6:15 last night and although I heard whimpers and a cry out at 6:45pm he slept until 6:30am this morning.  Early bedtime is the key I tell you :D  (For others reading he fed at 10 and 2 in case you were curious)  I'm certain now that his 2pm feed (actually 1:45) has become habitual.  Exact same time every night so I'm doing wake to sleep tonight.  Was going to wait until Friday...but why wait?  I need sleep!

I'll be back in a little while.  Oatmeal for the first time today :D

Traci
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on October 20, 2005, 12:31:48 pm
Hello everyone :) seeing that solids is the topic of the month I thought I would pop on and post a pic of my little Miss Piggy :) 
Naomi-Riley has beautiful eyes! I love all the pics, such gorgeous babies! Can't believe Sienna is almost 7 months! Does she remind anyone of a baby bird with that gaping mouth :lol:  Loves her food. Actually these pics should be the other way round the smiling one she has a mouthful!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 20, 2005, 12:49:18 pm
Naomi...I saw Riley last night and forgot to mention it this morning!  I just love her cheeks...but I think i've said that before.  we all have so much to brag about :D

Bianca-priceless photos!  it almost looks like she has lipstick on.  what is that you're feeding her???

for those that wanted to see dress rehearsal for halloween, here is the link

http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/here-vp291417.html#291417

and here is a example of my little guys strength.  this morning when he climbed the step he skipped putting his second knee on the stair and went right to putting his foot on it and pushing up to the next level!

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/lookatmemommya.jpg)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 20, 2005, 14:41:50 pm
Traci, adorable pictures! I cannot wait to get Olivia dressed up for Halloween. A friend bought a ladybug costume for her before she was even born! I hope it fits!

Hayley, I'm glad you had a good birthday. You have great friends to make it a special day for you.

Last night was better with Olivia. DH said she went to bed without a fuss. (He did bedtime, while I got out of the house and went grocery shopping...not glamorous, but still a night out alone.) She only woke twice...at 2:30 and 6:15. Both times, she settled herself and went back to sleep. She slept until 8:00 this morning. I, on the other hand, woke every hour. I think my body is used to waking more, plus we had a storm. So I'm still tired today. Hopefully we'll have good naps, and mom can get one too!

As for solids...she ate her cereal really well this morning. I waited an hour, then tried to give her a bottle. She only took 3 oz...even after not eating all night! I think she's not interested b/c I've interrupted playtime. I let her play after cereal, then try to give her a bottle later. She just takes a little, then she wants to play again. I think I'm going to try the two-tier approach that Jo suggested.

Well, off to play with Liv before her nap...have a great day, girls!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 20, 2005, 15:22:00 pm
I have a Q regarding constipation.  Cole is on his 5th day of cereal.  4 days of rice and oatmeal this morning.  He's having runny poops still but is straining at every feed.  Is there anything to worry about if he's still pooping?  When your little ones are constipated, does nothing at all come out?  I bought prunes yesterday just in case but I don't want to give them today since oatmeal was new as well.  I'm going to get a sippy cup today (hopefully if they're in stock) so maybe some additional water will help him pass something more substantial!

Thanks
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 20, 2005, 15:33:07 pm
I don't think constipation is amn issue unless they are really straining and uncomfortable and poops are hard like pebbles.

It was fun to chat with you ladies last night.  Sorry you have to suffer my horrible typing skills.

I have a few questions for you all.

Went to the doc yesterday.  She recommended flu shots for Sophie.  Is anyone else doing this?

Also, we talked about the spitting up issue and she said if we wanted to we could do a two week trial of meds to see if it helped.  I feel like I don't want to because it seems to be more of an issue for us (ie: puke EVERYWHERE) then it is for her.  She doesn't really seem bothered by i at all.  But maybe she is?

She thought I'd fish for some advice/opinions.

Also, Jo- I have been on zoloft for a few years, ever since my dad died and I was divorced.  I cannot tell you how much it has helped me. As much as I feel funny about taking a pill, I am so afraid of feeling the way I did before I started.  Some day I will try to go off...but not until Sophie is a bit odler.  I bf and Sophie has always seemed fine.  My doc. said zoloft was the safest for bf.  I hope that helps.  I don't want to push meds on anyone, because I know how hard it is to take them...just thought I would share how much they have helped me.  Of course this is also along with plenty of exercise/fresh air/good relationship with dh/helathy eating/ and years of counseling.  Meds are certainly not instead of any of those other things.  Just my thoughts. HTH.

Hope you all have a great day.
Good to see you back hayley.  happy Bday a little late.
Hannah
BTW Traci Cole is tooooo cute in his lion suit and pulling himself up!  He doesn't need face paint, he looks GREAT! And you ahve now motivated me to try the cinderella costume on Sophie. Eesh, Cinderella! :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 20, 2005, 15:59:44 pm
hi all!!

hannah: we are going to do flu shots at our house.  I'm asthmatic so winter is a lot easier if I don't get sick!! :) 

hayley: HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!! 

traci: cole is super cute!!!  i still can't believe he is crawling already! :shock:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 20, 2005, 16:26:59 pm
Hayley - happy birthday hunny, I hope your day was as fantastic as you are.

Traci - Cole is such a happy baby, I bet you he is almost running around by christmas!!!!

micky, macaire and bianca... so nice to see you post, I was wondering how you were all doing.
 well things here are slowly improving day by day, I df riley at 9:50 last night and she went thro till 5:45am. Also she has been taking 1/2 jar of food at a time ant then about an hour after she fusses for a little booby magic.
It is good to hear that both of you, mickey and jo are doing better, it is nice to know that we can be there for each other on here.
Did you see that we are over 1800 views on this thread already.
Glad you all liked the pic of riley, I just had to come on here and brag, what about you other ladies, any of you lurkers out there up for a bragging session?
Well I must go for now, I think today is as perfect as it can get.
Take Care everyone.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 20, 2005, 18:03:15 pm
naomi: TEE Hee  I am almost on here as much as Traci!!  :D  :shock:  :D   I just don't post every time !  :D  :D

well, if we are bragging...i've gotta put one of the few pics I have of Jack smiling...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 20, 2005, 19:19:59 pm
Hi all,
Isn't this site full of the cutest babies!!!!
TRACI-the costume is just sooo cute!
The rest of you will have to post photos when you have your los dressed up in costumes. We don't seem to get into Halloween in such a big way here.
HAYLEY-Happy belated birthday! You mentioned it and it slipped my mind.  :oops: Glad you had a good day.
Hey you computer whizzes out there, is there a way to have a calender attached to this site so we can add things on like our los birthdays, our birthdays, anniversaries etc? I have it marked in my calender Micky, Jack's surgery on November the 9th and will be thinking about you both then.
JO-hugs and glad to hear that things are getting better.
HANNAH- Sam is a huge spitter upper too. He gets through an outfit change after each feed and sometimes it can be up to an hour after his feed. It does not seem to bother him so we just go with it.
As for solids, I have been breast feeding first or bottle first except for the last feed when we give solids first. I leave an interval of an hour between the two. Sam is still drinking well-20 minute breast feeds and an average of 6-7 oz of bottle. He eats really well too 3-4 ice cubes of solids. I usually go for combos eg-apple and peach, sweet potato and pumpkin, carrot and rice, you get the picture.
JUDY-how are your nights going? Are you getting any sleep?
Enough from me.
Take care all,
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 20, 2005, 19:21:01 pm
hey mickey i heard that :wink:  that pic is way cute :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 20, 2005, 19:57:38 pm
hey micky what a lovely pic of jackson.....was that a tooth I see in his gums?....
We have a little success, today our routine has resembles EAEAS, karen I find too that riley likes her solids mixed up....I will finish this, i have a heart broken little boy as blue's clue's had just ended here.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 20, 2005, 20:08:54 pm
well tragedy avoided... I told him blue had to go see other boys and girls, which was returned by Jay pulling open my tank top and saying "I see boobies" so I think all is good for now, just wait until thomas the tank engine or bob the builder is over.....
Anyhew, where was I, oh yes solids, riley like them mixed, anyone else. Like for example apples and blueberries, apples and bananas, and today's masterpiece brocolli, potatoe and cheese casserole. I appluad all you mums who make your own food for youe lo's. I can barely cook for my man as it is!!! :oops:
Mickey and Ankie, you may have company in the new year, I was reading dh the posts you wrote at the start of the week, and we have come to the agreement that if I can't find a travel agency job by say april/may then it it a very good option. It would probably be BC, but who know at the mo.
Well I am off, for now, haha.
Take Care all.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 20, 2005, 20:27:11 pm
Oh look at all you chatters, seems like things are looking up for you all.

Nothing new going on here, but since we're all posting photos, here are some from the last few days:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 20, 2005, 20:35:12 pm
Naomi, would love to have ya in BC!

Lots of cute babies!!! We are quite the braggin' bunch  :D If I weren't such a techno-peasant, I would post more pictures.  :(

Anywho... came back from swimming lessons... Arwyn loves to kick and use her arms when she is floating on her belly. She has also learned that she can suck the water up at certain angles  :shock: . Gross...

She is down for her nap right now... just tried wake to sleep 10 minutes ago... I don't know if I did it right. I tried to stir her by putting my hand on her back. This usually works when I go to get her for her DF but she didn't move. So... I rubbed her back and up and down her legs (can you start to feel the worried vibes now?) and still no motion. I lift her right arm and am starting to worry that I will wake her right up! I then lift her left arm and her eyes finally flutter. Then I left. Anybody else tried this? How awake does she have to get? She actually semi-opened one eye and smacked her lips. Is this enough? I want to get the hang of it first, before I try it at night... that is, if she will stop waking up randomly... :roll: I want my 4 am wake-up girl back (insert whining emoticon here).

Gotta run... I have mountains of laundry here. It just snuck up on me and now I have to run the machine practically all day!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 20, 2005, 20:51:23 pm
Goodmorning.... can you see the matchsticks holding my eyes ope  :shock:

Firstly, Ankie, what you did is basically what I did for Daniel, I think it kind of worked, although I now know why we have a 5am ish wake up. THERE'S A TRUCK THAT IS VERY LOUD THAT DRIVES ALONG THE STREEET EVERY DAY!!!! Can you tell that I don't like that truck. It even woke me thismorning and of course minutes later Daniel was awake. Wouldn't settle till he had a quick sup. And that was his 3rd waking for the night.  :cry: I definitely agree, if they don't get enough day sleep they have bad night sleep. Daniel totally missed a nap yesterday so only had 1.25h all day  :? Grrrrr. Hopefully he'll get back on track today.

Anyway, LOVE the pictures, especially Cole in his lion outfit, that's just beautiful. And Nathan's smile is just great!

Thanks for all your birthday wishes. It did turn out really well, my present from my DH has arrived in the shop, a new hairdryer that the salon has ordered for me, the same as there's. Hopefully we'll get it either today or tomorrow. Yay, can't wait. No excuse not to blow dry my hair now.

Daniel enjoys his solids mixed or by themselves, I do a bit of both. And try to leave at least 30 mins between b/feed and solids. Depending how his routine is going for the day. His milk feeds have definitely dropped back since being on 3 solids a day though. Daniel usually has about 3-4 icecubes of food per meal also. Still hates the highchair though.  :cry:

Hannah - Daniel has reflux and was doing loads of spills, but since being on Losec he's improved heaps. I've also had him to a homeopath and has become even better since taking 2 remedies from her. I'm hoping to be able to take him of the meds soon. It could be that the solids have helped too.

Traci - you don't need to paint Coles face, it's sooo cute without the paint. IMO that is. I'm not sure if it would work, but you could always make a nose and whiskers out of cardboard or a plastic bottle cap or something and attach with elastic instead of painting. He might try to pull it off though. Mmm maybe a bit young. Just a thought.

Well, I too have laundry waiting to be folded and put away. Ahhh a mothers work is never done.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 20, 2005, 22:12:25 pm
Hey Everyone,

My day was going okay even though we had two short naps. Went to Walmart and found the Nuby sippy cups at last!  I bought the last three :D   Then I went to another store and bought a Taggies blanket (cole LOVES the tags on everything).  http://www.taggies.com and some robeez http://www.robeez.com.  It's a small store and she was clearing out Robees for $20 no tax (normally about $28+tax) so I got a pair of sandles.

ANYWAY, what I was supposed to be telling you about was that he skipped catnap. Why you ask?  He was babbling away for about 15 minutes and then started to cry. I thought it was strange because when he babbles he usually just goes to sleep.  I went to check things out...he was STANDING UP in his Grobag! :shock:  :shock:  :shock:   I was certain he wouldn't be able to.  Well, the packnplay was in the car so there was nowhere for him to nap!  I guess i could have put him in the stroller but it was raining.  so, I plunked him on the floor and he played while i took his crib apart to lower the mattress.  I knew I wouldn't be able to put him down tonight without worrying he'd tip himself out of the crib with his heavy head!  then I put him in all proud of myself for fixing it and he reaches up, can barely get his fingertips on the top and pulls himself up  :?   At least I know he can't fall out.  So i left him to go the washroom.  he started crying and when i came back he must have been happy because he let go, fell back and hit his head :oops:  :cry:  :oops:

surprisingly he managed to get through the rest of the evening okay.  we did dinner for the first time (rice) and gave him the sippy cup.  why not eh? throw it all at him when he's exhausted!  He took to the sippy cup but had trouble tipping it all the way back.  fell asleep on the boob, woke up while putting on the grobag and fell promptly back asleep at 5:45.

Okay, that's all I think.  I'm going to start pushing him later for his first two naps since they were both short.  I think the catnap is on the way out.

Great pics Nikki!  Nathan is loving the camera :D

hubbies home, exam over-we can start our life again!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 20, 2005, 22:23:16 pm
opps....missed the aussie/kiwi chat last night.   :oops: I keep forgetting they are on.  We have been having success with settling lately.  I have found clock watching to be working.  2.5hrs and James is ready for sleep and I put him down even though not many tired signs. Only a little mantra cry and off.  But then again it will probably all change next week. 

Jo, I am so sorry that you have been feeling sad.  I had a lovely time at coffee last week and would love to offer you any assistance that I can, even if you would like me to take Fraser for an hour or so, just to give you a break,or I could come over and keep you company.  Don't worry about having to take meds.  I had to take them many years ago (althogh I wasn't bf).  It it hard at the beginning, but it does get easier when you take them.

Re:  solids. I tried James on some couscous and veges in chicken stock the other day and he thought these were not too bad.  Just in case you are looking for some new ideas on what to feed our lo's.

Just one quick question:  How come our lo's won't drink water out of a cup/bottle, but they happily suck on the face washer in the bath? :?  :?

Ihaven't had time to read all the posts of late (they certainly do come in thick and fast) but maybe sometime over the weekend, I will find time to read them all.  Have a lovely weekend everyone.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 20, 2005, 22:27:13 pm
LOL  Traci,  I have just quickly read your message where you say Cole loves tags on all his toys. James does the same thing - I never wanted to say anything as I thought this was strange  :shock:  and I have never seen any of his friends do this.  I wonder if I can find one of those toys in Australia.  I was going to give him a box of tags for Christmas as these seem to be his favourite toys.   :D    Maybe I will look at it as having very good hand/eye co-ordination. 

I willhave to visit the website.  Two peas in a pod!!!  LOL

See you

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 20, 2005, 22:57:51 pm
Heya Ladies!! :)

Great pics everyone!!  Traci you got your hands full with that Cole I tell ya!!  He's SO mobile.  Wow... I'm picturing him being quick and tireless as time goes on!!! 

So last night - well, Hannah did normal.  At least she's eating and going right back to sleep now - 15-20min max (unless I fall asleep and wake up an hour later :))  So generally she wakes at 10.30pm (anyone figure out why their lo started waking for that dreamfeed?) then again around 3am or so and up for the day anywhere from 6-7am.

Kaia - now that girl slept all the way through last night!  HURRAY!!!  I was REALLY late getting them to bed.  DH had to work late, which usually isn't an issue but I didn't KNOW this until after 5pm.  Had I known earlier I woulda changed the whole evening around and had the older girls fed at or by 5pm.  As it was we did baths before supper for all the girls, then supper... blah blah blah and it was 8.10pm by the time I was giving K&H one last feed.  They'd slept through the 6pm feed (I missed catnap  :roll: )  Anyway, Kaia went to bed without a peep after that and I didn't hear from her till 6am!! SIX!!!!!! :)  Then Hannah woke at 6.30am just as I finished feeding Kaia so I put Kaia down to play on the floor while I fed Hannah and didn't she lay down, start sucking her finger and fall asleep???  Wow - ok so I put her back to bed and she slept until 9am!!! NINE!!!!!

Poor things had their needles today though - so doesn't it just figure.  Hopefully it won't affect their night.  Oh, and miss Hannah chomped down hard on my thumb tonight and I'm positive there's a tooth just under the gum.  I've been wondering this for a week or so as one side of the bottom gum (one side of where the front two will be) has a big bump on it.  Maybe that's all part and parcel to this (not that she's been teething for the entire last 5 3/4 months LOL but it's gotta account for something. :))
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 20, 2005, 23:13:03 pm
Yay Judy!!

Traci, I remember asking on this website a while back what taggie blankets were, anyway a lovely friend off this site made Danielle one and sent it over when she was born.  I haven't given it to her yet, but I bet she would like it too.

Lisa, you can make those blankets if you're a sewer - it's just two squares of fabric (mine is polar fleece one side and satin the other - about 30cm across) and you sew different types of tags onto it (that decorative tape stuff folded in half).
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 20, 2005, 23:18:13 pm
OMG they make something with tags all over?!?!!  Taylor LOVES tags and can't get enough of them so I will have to get this.  THanks Traci! :D   Here I thought I was all clever the other day thinking I should make somthing with tags all over it! :lol:

btw, had so mcuh fun on the chat last night!  will have to do it again def.
Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 20, 2005, 23:19:05 pm
BTW, tried to update my avatar with a cute pic of Taylor from the oterh day but resized it wrong, so need to fix it later!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 20, 2005, 23:28:57 pm
Hey!!!  Big ((hugs)) to everyone! 
We are doing okay here.  Couple of short naps yesterday and today.   :roll:   Yesterday, after abouat 40 mins, I went in and tried to help him settle and put back in this paci.  He doesn't actually need me to do that anymore...he can do it himself (not a prop then, eh?).  So, he saw me and was sooo happy he wouldn't go back to sleep.  Uggh! 
When he woke up after 35 minutes today I waited him out.  He didn't cry, just talked to himself for 15 minutes or so and then back to sleep for over an hour.  :D   Yippee!!!  Lesson learned!!!  No need to go in unless actual crying occurs.

Traci, I got a Nuby Sport Sipper yesterday....the only Nuby I saw at Wal-Mart.  Is that the same as you got?  I was thinking it was different...it was $2, not $1.50 as some others suggested.  Ryan loved it, though...played with it on the floor for about 15 minutes while I unloaded the dishwasher and cut up some fruit.  Whatever keeps him happy! 
Have a great day/night all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 20, 2005, 23:34:27 pm
Just checked out the taggies website.  I have got to get one for Sophie.  She loves tags too!!  I always think it's so funy that they have these great toys and all the want to do is play with the tags :)
I have been lurking all day reading and looking at pics.  I love the pics. Too cute everyone.  The cheeks, the smiles, the shiny eyes.  OMG!
Just found out dh is not going to be home until 5:30...
It's odd, all day today I was feeling like I don't ever want to go back to work I just want to stay home with my precious bug...then 3ish rolls around and all I can think about is getting out of here for a minute.
My sister just called.  Someone broke into her apartment the other night while she was there!  She lives in Chicago near the rest of my family.  The weird thing is they didn't even steal anything.  So she is absolutely traumatized and moving etc. Poor girl.  I can't even imagine waking up to hear a stranger in my house.
Can't wait to here about the mom's group Andrea.
Judy congrats on the sleeping girl (one at least).
We bought Robeez too, on ebay. I thought we got a good deal fro about 24...but 20 wow! They are cute but a little big still.  Plus, she's not walking like COLE practically is, so no biggie.  Good luck Traci!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 20, 2005, 23:35:58 pm
Kate,
I think the Nubys sport is the one with the straw??  There is one that is a little different, more like a nipple.
:)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 21, 2005, 00:05:20 am
look at me, i'm back surprise surprise. DH went to get groceries because our fridge looks like bachelor lives here.  I just realized I forgot to put Cole's list of fruits and veggies together :(   oh well, guess i'll get that myself.  For those of you that make your own...do you buy only organic?

Naomi-"i see boobies"  LOL priceless!

Hayley-you're right, i won't do his face.  He pulls all his hats off so i figure he wouldn't like anything on his face.  Does everyone elses los pull their hats off?  what will I do when it's minus 10 degrees out and he won't wear a hat?  guess i'll get one with a chin strap and hope he can't get it off.

Lisa-I hear you on the wash cloth!  That's why I gave Cole the sippy cup today. He was sucking on the cloth I used to wipe his face and hands after dinner so I thought he might be thirsty :?

Judy-yay for Kaia.  Where did you hear of her name by the way?  It's so original...been meaning to tell you.  And so much for my early bedtime theory :?

Nikki- I probably could make my own taggie blanket...but who has the time?  I might make some as gifts though...along with receiving and swaddling blankets.  I have two good friends giving birth soon, Dec. 22nd and Feb 26th (well, not so soon)

Kate-I saw the Nuby Sport sippers too but they were different.  I saw someone post a link here somewhere which helped me identify the right one.  it says on the packaging "No valve"  "No Mess" "Soft Spout"
oh-found the link in the Hoggwatch board

http://www.netkidswear.com/12oznunogrcu.html

It looks like a sippy but the spout is soft and has 3 slits like a bottle.  HTH
BTW, it was $3 here!!!  what a rip off...

Hannah-your poor sister.  hope she's okay.

I might have a lead on a mom's group finally too.  Someone is trying to establish one at the store I go to.  it's more than a store really,  it's a place where you can do exercise classes, sign language classes etc.

okay, that's more than enough for me again today.

bye!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 21, 2005, 00:19:49 am
Quote from: Colesmom
Judy-yay for Kaia.  Where did you hear of her name by the way?  It's so original...been meaning to tell you.  And so much for my early bedtime theory :?

Oh I think early bedtime is a great idea really.  In fact maybe she would have gone the whole 12 hours?  In any event at least she got her 12hrs in.

As for Kaia's name... well dh had been wanting to use the name Kai for a boy since before Zoe was born and when we found out the twins were both girls I suggested making it a bit more feminine (since I was ruling out the idea of 'going for the boy'!! LOL).  Anyway, I think he read it in a magazine back when.  Since though I've seen it online as a girl's name and even heard someone speaking to her own dd out at a park and her name was Kaia.  Sometimes I wonder if we should have spelled it kya though - to avoid constant confusion for the rest of her life?  Ah well.

Quote from: Colesmom
I might have a lead on a mom's group finally too.  Someone is trying to establish one at the store I go to.  it's more than a store really,  it's a place where you can do exercise classes, sign language classes etc.

What store?  I've heard of some awesome baby supply stores in Toronto!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 21, 2005, 00:29:00 am
Judy-wouldn't have been a place you'd heard of.  It's in Pickering actually.

http://www.ageontario.com/  The store within is called Mama's Love

You've likely heard of the larger stores like Crayons, Nestings Kids, Dear Born Child etc...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 21, 2005, 00:42:39 am
Here's a link for making your own taggie, scroll down about 4-5 posts and the instructions are there.

http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/sewing-sticky-anyone-interested-vt13983.html

Judy, do people often mispronouce Kaia's name?  I always say Kya.  Also been meaning to ask, when naming twins how do you know which one's going to get what name?  Do you kind of say #1 twin gets xx?  Strange question I know but I was intrigued also when you said they both have their own birthmarks, do you think it's possible that they might have had their names switched on them since birth? :P

Right, really have to get off here, I received my study material yesterday and read a few pages and got distracted and logged back in. :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 21, 2005, 00:49:20 am
ok I gotta be quick because THE DONALD is on in 10 min and I LOVE that show... and I need to get in my shower first.

Nikki - most people pronounce Kaia's name fine - but both grandparents pronounce it KAYA for the first week (or even Keeya??)  old people eh?  LOL  Hmmm... well Kaia was the one name we were certain on so we just decided that Twin A would get that name.  We couldn't decide between Hannah and Taylor for Hannah.  Asked the nurses even, after she was born and it was a complete toss up - Zoe came in the room that night and simply said  "it's Hannah mommy!"  Ok, Hannah it is!!  I don't THINK they got mixed up!!  LOL They had their ankle bracelets on for a good week or so - then Hannah's fell off in her sleeper (Kaia's was still on) and I just about died!! ACK!!! So I quick painted her toenail - but then we discovered the birthmarks.  Ok ok so we SHOULD have discovered the birthmarks on day one but we're loosers!!  :P  :P
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 21, 2005, 01:15:32 am
Hi Ladies,

Happy B'day Hannah!

Ankie must be a GREAt anniversary  :wink: !!

Traci - love that little lion adorable!!

Love all the pics - what a great looking group.

It has been very eventful here - massive storm surge.  Last I posted the downstairs condo was getting some flooding well, I 'm in bed and a wave hits our window (FYI we live on the waterfront but our bedroom window is 20 feet from the ground!!)  The people downstairs got washed out - along with all coastal areas ect...long story short - shatterinig windows, furniture lodging into walls and out the front door ect...Sophie slept through it all!! :shock: !!  We are ok upstairs but don't want to get into the sgag of the island still tryting to recover form Ivan last year... :(

In other news I have decided to pack my job in, another long story and I am too exhausted and depressed to get into it.

Big hugs Jo!!

I love hearing that everyone else's babes suck tags and puke all the time  :) !!

A few pic's of Sophie....

PS  Sorry I missed the chat last night but hey the caos here kept us busy....

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 21, 2005, 02:06:10 am
richelle, so good to hear from you, oooo she is gorgeous. Glad to hear you are okay, don't worry about missing the chat, hunny you took care of yourself and your family and that is the main thing. I have a great aunt in the caymen islands, my dads aunt, that is all i know of her, she lives there, but still nice to know, I should check in with my dad about her.
so what is up with you not wwroking anymore, let us know if oyu need a shoulder, for anything that you need with all you have going on.
I just wanted to pop in and say hi to my fine ladies, and richelle i am so glad you are okay, take care everyone.
Man what gorgeous kids we have, maybe it was something to do with the time they were born :wink:  :wink:
Good night/morning where ever you are.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 21, 2005, 02:11:39 am
richelle:  SO GLAD TO HEAR YOU ARE OKAY!!!  I was wondering today how things were down yonder!  I hope that's it for hurricanes this year!

Jack also didn't have a catnap today...his naps were a little short during the day ( only and hour each) I thought that he would catch up but then I put him down for his catnap and he slept for 10 min. :shock:   Needless to say he was ultra crabby and needy (wanting to be held) for the rest of the day!!  I think his second nap was interrupted by him needing to poop.  I hope this isn't the beginning of him phasing out his catnap because it is hard to carry an 18 pounder around for 3 hours!! :shock:  :shock:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 21, 2005, 02:24:54 am
Hi, lovely ladies!
Richelle...I've been so worried about you.  I love having friends around the globe, but now I have people I care about wherever there's some crazy world/natural event!  But, you're all worth it!   :wink:
Took Ryan to school today for a retirement party and boy were those teachers baby crazy!  He was a hit, of course. 
Thought I'd share some pictures from Ryan's first haircut, since you all shared you ADORABLE kids!  I thought I did a good job, but as you can tell in the bathtub picture a MAJOR touch up was needed.   :roll:   It's much better now.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 21, 2005, 02:25:33 am
Poop!  They switched my pics again!  I tried to outsmart it by switching them myself.  Oh well!   :roll:

If you look at the avatar, you can see how LONG it was and why he needed a trim!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 21, 2005, 03:02:59 am
Kate - I love the haircut photos, very cute. I don't think I'll be posting a photo of that for years.  :lol: Daniel's hardly got any hair at all.

Those Nuby sippers look good, it's times like this it's a pain living in NZ cos we don't get half of the stuff you guys talk about. I'm still trying to get Daniel taking a bottle and will try anything I can get my hands on.

Richelle - I hope things are still okay with you guys. It must have been pretty scary. How come you didn't have to evacuate just in case?

Amazing to think you can actually buy a tag toy. Next they'll be selling empty boxes!!!!! Cos of course, the box and wrapping is the best bit!

Daniel's nearly back on track with his naps. 1.5h thismorning, but then a 40 min nap at 1pm, he hasn't done that for ages. So he's back down again now, hopefully for an hour.

DH has had the afternoon off before our Labour weekend. Even though he's been away all week and you'd think he'd enjoy/want to be around to bath and feed Daniel, he played his computer game for a good while, then has left going into town until now (it's 4pm). So, once again I get bathtime. Which, cos I love my little bear I don't mind, but it's nice to have a break.  :roll: He is picking up pizza for dinner on the way home, but I think he came up with that idea so he could go later. Admittedly, he did keep an eye on Daniel while I dozed on the couch and played with him a bit, but still, it's not the same as me having a complete break as you all know. Anyway, there's my little grumble. At least he's doing the supermarket shopping which I hate!

See you later.

PS Judy - I always pronounced Kaia like Kya too.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on October 21, 2005, 04:24:04 am
Hi to all :)
Traci- WOW-Your little guy sure is strong!! Sienna is not even sitting by herself yet and seems very unmotivated to roll!! Total opposite of her bro. But there is no hurry--it all goes so fast before you know it they are little boy's and the baby is all gone :cry:  Kyan is going through another growth spurt he is already 100cm tall and only 29 months! So I think Si is going to be a shorty like me as she is still only little.
Nikki- How cute are your two together-isn't great when they just adore eachother/Kyan is Sienna's biggest fan :D  Have to watch that he doesn't squash her with all that love :shock: - I need to ask Judy how to cope when they don't see eye to eye so I can prepare!!!
Here is Si's current routine-including solids-
6:30am-BF
7:30-fruit
8:30-Nap
10:30-BF
12:00pm-oatmeal
1pm-Nap
2:30-3-BF
around 4pm-fruit/cereal
(may have short nap here)
6:30pm-BF-BEDTIME around 7pm
Still having one feed at night...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 21, 2005, 08:43:56 am
Good to hear from you Bianca!  I just love the way Nathan and Danielle interact, she just adores him so much.  He's also the protective big bro saying things like "don't eat it Danielle" (when she grabs something she's not meant to), or "foot off me Danielle" (when she kicks him in the bath or kicks him while she's feeding - yeah she's doing it on purpose!  :roll:  :lol: ).

I wish Nathan would have a growth spurt, he's such a shorty (quite likely because of the Celiac disease he's just been diagnosed with - he's only 89cm high).  I am short, but DH is tall, so it is possible he's just taking after me, but apparently now he's diagnosed he will do a catch up growth wise.

Si's routine is very similar to ours and we're also still feeding once in the night.  Danielle ate her solids at dinner tonight (or I should say slurped/drank - she purses her lips like a fish and drinks it off the spoon, I'm sure she's got a make-believe nipple in her mouth LOL).

Richelle, that is scary that wave hitting your window!  :shock:  I would be terrified.

Hayley, my DH does the grocery shopping too, it's his and Nathan's daddy and son time on Saturday mornings LOL.

Righto, off to drink my milo and into bed.  Thought summer was coming and then tonight we've lit the fire again. :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 21, 2005, 13:18:31 pm
Richelle-so happy to hear you are safe.  was watching the news last night and it's all so scary.  sorry to hear about your job.  best wishes whatever you decide to do :cry:

Kate-love the haircut pics.  the bathtub one is hilarious with it all crooked :wink:

Nikki-thanks for the link to the taggies blankets.  ladies, if i decide to make some i'll let you know.  for those that can't get a hold of one i could ship one over to you (homemade or brandname)

Hayley-i laughed so hard at the empty box comment.  that is so true.  My DH took Cole for 15 minutes this morning so I could shower.  I then said "Cole, mommy just has to brush her teeth" and DH says, "can you take him?".  duh, i just said i had to brush my teeth.  he looks at the clock like he's in a big rush...as if two minutes will make him miss his train.   :evil: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.  okay, that's my rant.

Ladies, I want to go to this today: http://www.thebabyandtoddlershow.com/visitor_main.html

but i'm not sure if it's fair to Cole.  We'll be out all day tomorrow at the filthy dog house!  and sunday he'll be with DH at his brothers while I go shopping :D   Is that too much do you think for 3 days in a row.  All his first and second naps will be in crib or packnplay.  Only his catnap would be in the stroller today...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 21, 2005, 15:52:54 pm
traci i think you should go....it's only the catnap and cole seems pretty easy going.  Then you can tell us all about the cool stuff they had there!! :D   We can live vicariously through you.  Pretend we are all getting out of the house!!  :D  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 21, 2005, 16:44:09 pm
HI Ladies,

Glad to hear Richelle you are okay.  Sophie is so cute...Taylor has the same Exersaucer and she loves it!


Everyone else that posted pics...they are adorable, esp. the haircut!  lvoe the red hair.

So don't have much time today because I have to get ready to go to a Baby Whisperer Pow Wow!   I am meeting up with 4 other local moms today that I found here on the BW site.  I am so excited and will take pics and then post in the gallery.

Traci-go and get out!  3 days will not undo all the hard work you have done!
Judy-yay for Kaia!

And everyone else, sorry I can't recall everything, but HUGS to all! 

you ladies are the best and don't know what I'd do without you! :D  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 21, 2005, 17:04:26 pm
Richelle... so glad you and your family are okay. It is very scary, I'm sure as I can't even stand the tiny little wind storms we get.

Kate... miss work do ya? There are days I do (like today) and days I don't. I have been going out to the picket lines and will wander up there today too. I think there is an end in sight. A mediator presented non-binding recommendations yesterday. I think there is an end to the 10 day strike.

Well ladies... I tried wake to sleep again this morning to extend her nap and I WOKE HER UP COMPLETELY. She is now grumpy and tired.  I really screwed up her day now... she has dropped her catnap for 4 days now and the reason I wanted to extend her first nap is because I need to get her to wake up later from nap #2.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Now I have a crank-pot and I don't know how to get through the rest of the day :roll: (I woke her at 30 min from her usual 1h 15 min nap!!!) STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!

Anyway... Andrea... I know what you mean about the deer in the headlights and are you insane look. I have a friend from the drop-in whom I can't even mention what we do (there are 3 of us who BW) because she will shut down, not listen and then actually start to argue that you need to account for the needs of the family, how every baby is different and therefore, her DS goes to sleep at 11 pm.  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Oh well, whatever works I guess. Every time I look at her DS, he is clearly tired but whatever. On the other hand, I recommended BW to DH's co-worker (well, actually to his wife) and she loves it! Open-minded-ness is the key here.

Off to settle my grumpy pants and perhaps go for a walk to kill some time!  :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 21, 2005, 17:07:59 pm
Hi ladies,  I haven't posted in a few days as I've come down with the worst cold.  Hoping that Claire doesn't get it.  I'm feeling better today.  I think that sleeping while she's napping has helped.  The house is a total disaster though.

I was glad to see the link for the taggies!  Claire loves to suck on them.  I'm going to have to check that out.


Those of you that are having night wakings still:  How do you handle them?  Claire has been real random with these lately.  I think its mostly my fault because I'm so inconsistent with feeding, not feeding ect.  DH and  I were talking and we know that she can go until at least 3am with out eating (no df) because she's done it several times and has even gone until 4:30.  So the plan has been to have DH try to settle her if she wakes before.  We had so so results and then I got sick and DH had a meeting early this morning so I fed her 3 times last night!  Yes, I said 3 times :oops:   I was feeling so nasty and just wanted to sleep.  Now I'm afraid of tonight.  DH is going out of town all weekend (pheasant hunting opened up here :cry: ), so it will just be me.  When I go in and try to settle her, she brings the house down if I don't feed her.  I don't want to undo all the hard work we've put in (Claire too). I'm thinking its going to be a rough night.
Sorry this is so long, just wondering what the rest of you do!

Tomorrow were going to my SIL's couples babyshower.  I love how DH got out of this one.  Its HIS sister!   

I'm going to try and add a picture of Claire on here.
Here's to a great weekend!
Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 21, 2005, 17:50:43 pm
It didn't work.  I'll try again later. 

Andrea - I know what you mean about discussing BW with "non- believers"!  So many of my friends put their babies down at 9 or 10pm.  Claire would never make it!  Even her ped.  told me to try and put her down later to get rid of the night wakes.

Also, I ordered the Bumbo!  Thanks for the tip. :wink:

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 21, 2005, 19:46:27 pm
RICHELLE-glad to hear you are OK. Very scary though! Was thinking about you last night when Sam kept waking up because his windows were rattling as we had a bit of a windy night. Sophie slept through it all!!!! :shock:  :lol:  Well done Sophie!!
JUDY-Yay for Kaia!!
NIKKI-Thank you for link. About to dash out and buy some tags and fabric. Will have to dust off the sewing machine as have not made anything since Sam was born.
TRACI-thanks for the tip
HAYLEY-Sam loves the Avent sippy cup for under 3 months as the spout is soft and although it has a valve, it is really easy to get liquid out of...yes dh and I road tested it. We also have the Tommee Tippee one but found that I could not coordinate to get the fluid out and when i took the valve out, I just about drowned so did not even attempt to give it to Sam.
KATE-love the haircut, cannot believe he sat still for you. I worry that I will chop the tip of Sam's finger off one day when trimming his nails, he is so wriggly!
JESSICA-hope you are feeling better!
LISA-love the couscous idea but did you have to mash it at all or was it soft enough for James?
Anyway, enough from me, Sam woke last night every 2 hours because of loudly rattling windows, I even considered AP by bringing back into our bed but am terrified of smothering him so I just sat with him and kept my hand on him. I am going to the shops to get me some tags!!
Karen

ps: TRACI-you should so totally go to the parent and child thing..we have one coming up next weekend and I am sooo looking forward to going to it.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 21, 2005, 21:28:21 pm
Hi everyone,

I did go to the show.  There were some good booths but it wasn't nearly as big as I expected.  It was a bit hairy getting there.  I decided last minute so I was rushing around the house to get Cole and I ready and had to feed one boob on the train!  I live right next to the train into the city so at least that was convenient.  I left my bank/debit card at home!  I couldn't get a cash advance on my credit cards because i've never set it up :twisted:   I didn't have a single penny in my wallet.  I had to go to my bank branch (thankfully on about 15 min. walk away) and get the cash advance on my visa.  Half my ID is in my maiden name, half in my married name so i was lucky to be able to get it at all!  They only took cash at the door.  After that fiasco I paid a fortune for lunch.  Why didn't I buy it before I got there I have no idea :?

Cole ended up having naps 2 and 3 in the stroller, 30 and 45 min.  oh well.  You would have never known it.  He was great all day thankfully.  As I said the show was smaller than expected so I went to my office after.  I got tons of compliments "what great eyes", "such a smiley/happy baby".  One girl is back from mat leave and pregnant again and she asked about his sleep.  She nearly fell down when I said he sleeps 6 to 6.  Then she made some comment about I'd rather mine wake up later so they go to bed at 8.  So I know what you're saying Andrea!

Train ride home was in rush hour but thankfully Cole slept most of the way and I managed to get a seat.  I will post website links in a separate post once he's down for the night.  There was some cool stuff.  Would you believe I came away empty-handed?  I was going to buy one thing, a leather bib that attaches at the back with magnets.  I put it on Cole and he promptly yanked it off.  Oh well, so much for that purchase.

Okay, he'd done with the saucer...gotta run.  see you again later tonight.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 21, 2005, 21:35:18 pm
That is sooooo funny about the bib Traci--afetr your post , I went to the site and looked up a ton of the businesses that were there including the bibs..Mami bib?? can't remember.  Anyhow, I was just sitting ehre thrying to think of a subtle way to hint to mil for one for christmas...funny.  Maybe I won't now.
I'll post more tlate.
Anyone up for a chat tonight?
dh is going to be out.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 21, 2005, 22:03:53 pm
hi all!!
I'm glad to hear you went to the show Traci!!  I was feeling "adventerous" and went to Toys R Us, Michaels and Starbucks... :D

I don't know what's with Jack today...you'd think I was ripping him limb from limb the way he cried when I was vacuuming today!! :shock:   So I had to vacuum carrying him so that he wouldn't cry. :roll:  Oh well, I guess that won't ever be his chore!! :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 21, 2005, 22:05:09 pm
Hello Ladies!

Wow, it is hard to keep up..... but here goes

Andrea - I know what you mean about 'non-believers' but for every one there is an open minded mom out there whose sanity and sleep are helped by BW!!  Definately know though about not wanting to say anything....

Traci - So glad you went to the show but what excitment getting there!

Kate too hilarious about the crooked haircut - I have one of myself as a baby after my mom cut my hair :shock: classic honestly!  That is one to show the future daughter in law!

Judy - I was so happy to hear about the good night and the progress of the twins.  I am still flabbergasted as to how you are sane :shock: !

Naomi - glad you are feeling better anf you had a nice day

Nikki - great link for the tag thing - i still giggle b/c I thought Sophie was the only 'weirdo' who was obsessed with the tags on her toys!

Karen - bummer about Sam's night with rattley windows!!  That Sophie is a sleeper.... :shock:  :D

Arwyn - so.........how was the anniversary???!!! :wink: I read an article regarding the bc teacher's union getting fined $500,000 for contempt of court but that hoopefully things will smooth out.  It was difficult to tell from the article if it was good or bad news for you!

Jessica - feel better, it is awful being sick.  Do what you need to do to get some rest and make it through the weekend alone and then concentrate on the night wakings, just my opinion.

I know i have forgotten some but ohhhh there are so many of us and we are fabulous..

So, yes I resigned today  :shock:  :o  :(  :P  :twisted:  :wink:  yes i am a little mixed up about it.  I was in a meeting yesterday morning and thought to myuself - "Am I really missing out on Sophie for this?"  Long story but they are not wanting me to go so it will be a struggle - wish me luck and help me stay strong in my decision!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 21, 2005, 22:36:24 pm
hannah, and anyone else who wants to chat, let me know and I will be there, I have to keep checking the board cuz my email is down at the mo.
OOOO, I need good vibes and prayers to come my way. I emailed my resume to a corerate travel agancy the last week, I didn't think I ould hear anything back, but they called me today for an interview on mon at 11am, and even better they are looking to fill 10 positions. It is what i am trained in, but having kids and getting married kida took me a little off track.
Talk to you fine ladies later.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 21, 2005, 22:42:26 pm
Hannah-the bib designs were WAY cute but it really didn't seem entirely practical.  I liked the fact they didn't have to be laundered and that they stuck on the fridge!  However they didn't seem big enough and like I said, I think Cole took it off too easily.  Would love to chat tonight but DH is getting the "early" train home and we obviously haven't seen much of each other with his studying.  Early is in quotes as the best time he can get home is 7:10pm :?   Thanks for pointing out the vendors have links on the show site...now I don't need to post the individual ones.

Mickey-I often carry cole in the sling to vacuum-used to be part of wind down in fact.  Then I started leaving him on the floor and he would watch me.  Last week he chased the cord and the vacuum around the floor and i'm worried about sucking up a finger so no more of that!

Richelle-do whatever makes you feel good.  I am going to have a real hard time going back to a job I hate just to make money.  Would rather live without a lot of "stuff"

oooh oooh oooh- I might be able to chat Hannah.  It's our friends sons second bday and Tony has been dying to see his friend for a while.  I'll see if he's interested in heading over there for a bit.  He really needs to get out and have a beer and relax.  He's freaking because he thinks he failed his exam :oops:  Please post the time you'll be chatting. 

dinners cooking, back soon :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 21, 2005, 22:48:54 pm
well the email is back up, crappy computer stuff....let me know of a time ladies, you know I will be there!!!!!
POst the time for EST and I can figure it out as we are 1hr ahead of that.
Gotta run, riley is grooving to videos....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 21, 2005, 22:49:35 pm
Good for you Richelle!!!!  Stay true to yourself - if this is truly what YOU want then don't let them sway you!  Nice to know they don't want you to leave though!

ok - these Nuby cups... can I be the only wet blanket on this?  Or should I keep my mouth shut ;)  HA!!  If any of you knew me in person you'd know that's hard for me to do!! :)  I bought them for Zoe and Sarah about a year ago and they hated them - they couldn't get anything out of them.  They'd been used to the typical playtex sippies by the time I bought them - I ended up taking them all back. :(

So last night was another good night for Kaia!  Went to bed around 7.15pm (was ready earlier but I was holding them off pacifying on the boobs while dh bathed the older two.  Bathroom is right next to K&H's room and dh seems unable to bath the girls without a lot of crying and yelling from them???)  Anyway, she went down and then didn't wake at all until 5.20am when I gave her a quick feed and she went back to bed till 8.15am!!  Hannah was a little more restless - cried at 11.30pm as she has been, I assume it was her, but by the time dh and I both got to their room (he was asleep on the couch as per usual) no one was awake?  Anyway she woke at 1.30am and then again at 3.30am.  Fed both times but I don't know that she was hungry at 3.30am.  Her nose was so stuffy I could hear her from our room trying to breath through it.  DH and I got up and put some seaspray up there so then I fed her because she was HYSTERICAL.  :(  Then she didn't wake again till 7.45am!!  She's also working on that tooth so I imagine that will disrupt her sleep for a bit.

Ok - so I gotta clarify this sleeping through stuff.  Traci you said your office coworker didn't believe you on Cole sleeping 6-6.  He is waking though for a feed or two though right?  See Hannah generally is waking for a feed at 11pm and 3.30am give or take.  She feeds and goes straight back to bed now (finally) but I consider then that she's up twice - would you consider this that she is sleeping 7.30pm to 7.45am?

BTW - I loved the pic of Cole in his lion costume!!  I thought I was doing great to have bought the older girls their costumes at Children's Place mid-Sep!!  Then I remembered them today and got them out to show them.  Turns out I stupidly picked up a 12-24month size for Sarah and she's a size 3... so of course it didn't fit.  I took it back today and of course they have nothing left.  They put them all on sale when Oct hit and sold out quickly.  Shoot!  I ended up getting her a bumble bee costume from Zellers on the cheap.  She won't mind - but I was so excited about her little witch outfit.  BUT - they did have a few costumes left at Children's Place all only 12-24month size so I got two (50%off) fairy costumes for Kaia and Hannah next year.  They better fit!! :)  My girlfriend had the same costume last year for her dd Sarah's age.  She now has third little girl just 3 weeks old - so next year we'll have the three of them dressed the same!!  How cute!! (We live in the country so we go to their little town and go out with them to about 10 houses)

Anyway I should go.  Giving K&H their last feed.  DH is outside plowing his fields (all 7 acres  :roll: ) and I have actually let Z & S watch Dora which I've never done at this time of day.  I may regret it but I really want the house quiet so I can get the babes to bed amongst calm for once.  I was out shopping for a few hours today as dh was off work so I imagine they've watched A LOT of tv already.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 21, 2005, 23:06:12 pm
Yay for Hannah and Kaia!  That sounds great Judy. 

As for the Nuby cups.  I believe they are meant to be a babies first sippy because the spout resembles a nipple sort of.  The texture of it and that they have to suck.  Also good because of the no mess factor.  So I think Zoe and Sarah would have been too old for them???

And yes, cole feeds at 10pm and anywhere between 2 and 4am.  last night woke at 1:10...fought him until he went back down at 2 and he got up at 4:30, then slept until 6:45 after going down at 5:45 last night!  I consider this sleeping through...I guess when I mentioned that to my coworker her shock was more at his early bedtime.  I think a LOT of babies go to bed late.  One girl in our office, her daughter used to go to bed at 11 otherwise mommy and daddy would never seem her.

I bought his Lion costume crazy early.  And I'm lucky it fits. It's 6-12 months and just fits him...but he has a long torso like his daddy.

okay, DH home any second now and dinner isn't quite ready!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 21, 2005, 23:29:30 pm
Judy, my take on the sleeping thing is this.  When I talk about overnight sleep - I talk about how long Danielle considers her night sleep, so for us it is 7pm-6.30am.  But she's feeding once in there somewhere.  I think this is totally normal considering we don't DF - but I don't think of her sleeping through.   But I do think my kids going to bed at 7pm seems to be quite early for most people on this site even - we have a popular soap on at 7pm so I'm off duty to watch it. :oops:

Well Danielle slurped her way through avocado for lunch today watered down with watery rice cereal - this chick is weird LOL!

DH has just put Danielle down for her 2nd nap and she's grizzling - I obviously haven't handed that chore over to him often enough (same thing happened this morning when he put her down too), for me she goes down without a peep.  It's not like she even has a winddown, I just close the curtains and put her in bed - oh well mummy better go check her...

Right, she's off to dreamland now...I used to get Simon putting Nathan down all the time, but just haven't got in the habit of it since he often puts Nathan down for a nap while I sort her out.

Naomi, here was a conversation I had with Nathan this morning when we were all lying in bed and Danielle had just joined us for her first feed.  Anyway, she's been getting very distracted lately and pulled off and turned around and Nathan said "Danielle come back here and eat your booby". I do say the first half of that sentance which is why he got the words in the wrong meaning, but I've never said the booby bit LOL.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 22, 2005, 00:20:00 am
Would about 10pm work for chatting or is that too late?  I think 10 EST would be about 7 my time, which would hopefully be after Sophie is asleep.
Any takers?
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 22, 2005, 00:45:55 am
I can try hannah, it would be 11pm my time, so I can chat for a bit. Man I really ned to move to the west coast so I can talk to you all at a decent time!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 22, 2005, 00:46:09 am
hey girls.  DH stayed home.  To be honest, Cole totally wore me out today!  I think he'll sleep better than me I am so overtired LOL.  no chat for me.

have a wonderful weekend. At the ILs all day tomorrow and out shopping sunday.  I'm sure I might be here sunday morning or night though.

bye bye

sorry i posted this so late...i didn't hit submit!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 22, 2005, 01:01:48 am
Traci-sorry we won't see you. Naomi I'll look for you there.  If you don't end up able to that's ok, but I'll be looking for you :)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 22, 2005, 01:11:27 am
hey girls.  DH stayed home.  To be honest, Cole totally wore me out today!  I think he'll sleep better than me I am so overtired LOL.  no chat for me.

have a wonderful weekend. At the ILs all day tomorrow and out shopping sunday.  I'm sure I might be here sunday morning or night though.

bye bye
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 22, 2005, 07:56:05 am
Just had to quickly report that Danielle is finally eating properly!!! Yay!!!  She had about 3Tbspns rice cereal at dinner time and still seemed hungry so ate 1Tbspn pumpkin.  At lunch she ate a few Tbspns avocado (which she'd already tried last week) mixed with rice cereal.  She still slurps it up though, but did manage the pumpkin quite thick instead of watered down.  She loves drinking her water too.  So that was a good 4wk process, but looks like we're getting there.  Phew!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 22, 2005, 15:58:07 pm
Way to go Danielle!!!  That's good to know Nikki - I was starting to consider throwing in the towel on solids for a bit but maybe we'll just continue to plug along.  I've tried letting Hannah slurp... she doesn't really slurp much but she's not annoyed by it as she is by having a spoon of food put in her mouth.  We'll see....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 22, 2005, 15:59:50 pm
Hey girls! Sorry I haven't posted in a while, but I've been reading along and trying to keep up!

I know what you mean, Andrea and Traci, about people looking at you weird when you talk about your LOs bedtime. We start the ritual at 7:00 and she's usually in bed by 7:30 although sometimes she doesn't go to sleep until 8:00. I was telling my friend, who has a DS 3 weeks older than Olivia, and she said, "I so wish my DS would go to sleep that early! Do you put her to bed, or does she just go to sleep and sleep through the night." And I just thought, "Well, it's not like she comes up to me and says, 'Mother, I think I'm ready to turn in for the night.' We're the parents so we set the bedtime!" But of course, she and her son are on NO type of schedule whatsoever, and that would drive me crazy. Luckily he's an angel baby, so she can tote him anywhere and he's fine. On the flip side though, my best friend just found out she's pregnant with her first, and she's already asking me for the BW book for her shower! She's already a believer!

To each his own, I guess!

Well, we have company for the weekend, so enjoy, everyone! I'll check in later.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 22, 2005, 17:29:41 pm
Nicki, that is so funny waht Nathan said about Danielle and thebooby!!! :lol:   Kids say the darndest things!

Judy-yay for you and Kaia!  Hopefully sis will catch on soon.

As far as sleeping through I think it is at least 5-6 hours a stretch w/o food right?  not sure, but I think in general we are all doing EXCELLENT with having our lo's in bed at a decent time and waking up at a decent time.  Yes, they may take a feed here and there, and do the occasional wake up where they need our help to go back to sleep, but overall they are all independent sleepers, right?  that is what I tell myself to keep positive, like when she woke today at her uisual 5 am for a little patting! :roll:

Anyhow, solids continie to go well!  she loves the homemade applesauce I made for her.  Tomorrow we are trying yogurt!  Someone asked about organic fruits and veggies for those of us who make our own.  I do not buy organic.  Bad mommy???  I think not, because hey, at least I'm making her food right?  that has to count for something! :)

Yesterday I met with 4 other BW moms in Dana Point and it was so much fun and such a breath of fresh air!  I will post pics later in the photo gallery if anyone is interested.

Gotta get ready...we are taking T to take her 6 month pics later.

BTW, sorry I missed the chat last night.  DH and I watched Batman Begins...not bad but can't stand Katie Holmes! :roll:

Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 22, 2005, 17:51:33 pm
I make my own baby food too but don't bother buying organic stuff (other than what we grow in our own garden).  The whole organic industry isn't really all that well regulated as yet.  I think what regulations there are can be a bit misleading and such from what I've heard.

Plus, as was said, at least I'm making it myself - gotta be some credit for that right? :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 22, 2005, 18:07:12 pm
so I must be starting my period soon because I am feeling ultra paranoid/sensitive.

First, I hope when I said "at least I make her food" I wasn't sounding too self-righteous or anything.  Def. don't want to offend anyone!   :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 22, 2005, 19:13:41 pm
Oh Andrea!  :D  :D   I hardly think you could offend anyone!  No worries!  :D  :D

Maybe it's just one of those days.  I'm feeling rather glum myself.  It's grey as grey can be outside and chilly chilly CHILLY.  Hannah's in a funk - getting a tooth and can't fit enough fists in her mouth.  I made a huge pot of homemade minestrone soup and no one else in the family will even taste it.  :roll:

Other than that we've done nothing but sit around this house today - not so different than every other day but I guess by the time the weekend comes and dh is home I kinda wish we could DO something.  *sigh*
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 22, 2005, 19:29:42 pm
Andrea, I didn't even notice what you wrote about homemade food so definitely no offense. :wink:

I also make my own food (well intend on it when she eats much LOL), but don't buy organic.  I do often buy the tinned baby fruit though since it's so much nicer than what I make.

I personally don't tell many people I come here or that I do BW unless they're a good friend or people who don't have babies and I know would have no interest hanging out on a baby website. LOL. I've never told my playgroup who is my antenatal group from Nathan, they're all total "wingers" and would think I'm a routine-nazi even though my EASY is a very loose version, but I have always tried to be home for naptime but don't tell them why I'm leaving.  :roll:  :lol:

Well gorgeous day today and it's Labour Weekend so we're off to a trip out, so a total "wing it" day.  8)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 22, 2005, 20:24:05 pm
Yay for Danielle and eating solids!!!

ANDREA-that was totally not offensive. I also try and make my own food but Sam does get some tinned stuff because as Nikki said, it is much nicer than anything I could ever make. I do not do organic either. Contemplated it but agree with Judy with the non regulation etc.

I am exactly the same as Nikki when it comes to BW and telling people although I mention routine when they ask me why Sam is always happy and smiling when we are out. I am quite a stickler to routine and therefore often make appointments etc around the routine. Although, must say that I was much worse before I came on here and got advice from the more "experienced" mums (thanks Nikki, Erin, Naomi etc!) :D

It is a glorious day here and it is a long weekend so we are also totally winging it this weekend!
Have a great day all.
Karen

PS: TRACI-our bedtime seems to be getting earlier and earlier. What time did you say Cole went to bed. For us, last night it was 6.20 pm. Asleep by 6.40pm and woke this morning at 7. I think it was fluke but I am happy with anything after 6 am!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 22, 2005, 20:33:15 pm
I don't tell very many people about BW unless they ask.....I did rave about it when we first got Jack onto it because it made such a difference but since then noone has asked so I don't bring it up either.  I don't want to sound too fanatical  :roll:  :D
I've made some of my own food but not very much only peas, sweet potato, banana, peaches, lamb, turkey, and spaghetti....he loves pureed spaghetti.  Maybe just has more flavor.  I guess now that I list it down I actually have made quite a bit.  :D   Yeah for me!

Talking about people that have no clue (I don't claim to be any know-it-all) but I was hanging out with a girlfriend the other day and her neighbor came over with her LO.  We started discussing solids and how much they were eating.  (her LO is 5.5months)  She said her little boy was just about weaned completely off milk and only eating 3 meals a day!!! :shock:  :shock:   I couldn't believe my ears!!  She said he was eating about 20 Tbsp of cereal for breakfast!!!  Can you believe that??!!  Anyways, I bit my tongue.  She can talk to her pediatrician about it.  Poor little guy I have no idea if she is giving him any liquids!  Needless to say  I think we are doing okay....it is all relative!!! :shock:  :roll:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 22, 2005, 21:07:43 pm
Hey ladies, well we made it through last night.  She didn't wake until 2, fed her then awake again and 4:30, fed her, woke at 5:20, put herself back to sleep :D  then for the day at 6:45.  Not too bad, but can't wait until DH gets back.  I also don't like being here alone.  Every noise creeps me out.  We have 2 dogs, but they're big sissies!

Nikki - too funny about the boobie business.  Isn't it funny how the rest of the family gets so comfortable with breasts.  DH says he'll never think of boobies the same again.  :?

I don't make Claire's food, but would love to try.  Can anybody suggest a good book on it?

I don't talk to other people about BW either, except for my mom.  She was really supportive when we were going through nap training.  I don't even talk to MIL about it.  It gets a little hairy when she invites us over for dinner at 7pm.  We've gone several times and just leave Claire with a sitter, but I know they want to see her too.   DH is really great about defending our routine and they are pretty respectful.  They even bought a crib so Claire can take naps at their house.  Which she did today for the first time!  It was only 45 min. and I had to use the paci, but I figure its a good start. :D
Have a  great weekend
Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 22, 2005, 23:42:57 pm
Hi Everyone,

We're back from ILs house.  Decided to come home before bed as Cole was up a few extra times last night and had short naps today...well, all except his catnap that was an hour and ended at 4:45 :oops:   I just had to let him sleep-he was so tired. As a result we didn't end up leaving until 5:25, home by 6:25 and he just went down at 7.  Poor guy cried the whole way home. (one hour) I think it was a combo of hunger, gas and teething.  DH reached back and gave him his hand when we were at a stop light when we got off the highway and cole grabbed it and starting chomping on his finger.  Then when he did feed he had a huge poop and lots of toots.  He fell asleep on the boob, but woke up going up the stairs and still went down without a peep. 

We arrived, dogs were barking etc. but Cole was great.  They made no offer to put them outside or in a bedroom or anything.  So I had to hold cole the whole time.  They eventually got used to him, sniffed him a couple of times and left him alone.  At one point we spread out a blanket so he could play and about 5 people just created a circle around him in case the one dog got off the couch (did you read that right...dog on couch, people on floor :twisted: ) and the other one was in the kitchen with MIL.  Anyway, it was an okay visit.  Cole was great in his high chair while we ate dinner, and he ate his own dinner before we left.  I have a DH rant...but not sure I have enough time to type it before he's home from the movie store.  more on that tomorrow or Monday.

Karen, Cole is asleep normally by 6:00-6:15 and on good days he's been getting up 6:15-6:30 :D   I do feed him at 10pm and anywhere between 2 and 4am

I tried wake to sleep last night as he's been getting up at 1:30.  Did the jiggle at 12:30.  He woke at 12:50 and cried a few minutes!  Then woke at 2.  I didn't want to feed him as I want to break him out of this middle of the night feed and at least get him going til 4 but I was tired.  Fed him, he woke at 4 and went back to sleep, woke at 5:30 i gave 1 boob and he slept til 6:15.  Not a stellar night at all.  Think the mom and baby show wore him out.  I hope his bad ride home doesn't totally wreck his sleep tonight.

Supposed to go shopping tomorrow.  I'll still go but asked future SIL to come out this way so Cole could stay home and have all his naps in his crib.

gotta go, DH home, talk tomorrow.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 23, 2005, 00:40:00 am
Traci, I'll bet you're glad the IL trip is over at least and actually it sounds like it went well. 
Ach!
Our Little Tiny Girlfriend (as dh likes to call her) is awake...gotta go deal.   It's been a crazy day :)
naomi thanks for the chat last night.
Hugs to everyone.
More later.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 23, 2005, 02:44:37 am
hannah you are more than welcome for the chat last night.
Well things have knida reached a head here. I have hammered it into dh and the friend we have looking after the kids of how important the routine is. I asked dh what time he fed riley at this morning and he said "I don't know".
I told him later that that kind of answer didn't help me out and threw her routine off for the rest of the day.
So I have asked them both to write down what , when and any notes,kwim. I figuered with three of us with the kids it is the easiest way to do it.
Jay now has an ear infection from his cold, Oh yippee!!!! So things are a challenge with that, but he is able to use words to tell us what is wrong with him. I still can't get over the words he uses.
Just thought I would pop in and say hi to you all, sorry for not answering anyone, but things have been quite hectic around our home lately.
Take Care everyone, I will chat again with you all soon.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 23, 2005, 03:03:36 am
Naomi-hope jay feels better soon.  Did you still go for pictures today?  I think that is a great idea about writing it all down..I feel you on the "I don't know" answers..kinda drives you batty!

Jessica- good for you defending the routine with mil.  I have had to do the same thing.  Actually, I asked dh to talk to mil for me and actually, things have been MUCH better since..in fact I think she is more stuck to the routine then I am sometimes. 

Micky- I am curious, spaghetti??  How did you fix it originally, what kind of sauce...that is so cool.  My dh was having a blast after I told him that thinking of all of the meals we could puree for her (like salad  :roll: ).  Funny.

Judy- it's funny, I guess the grass is always greener...it drives me crazy that dh always wants to do so much on weekends because it's so much harder to do things then to just stay home...and I am saying this with only one child!!!  Truly pathetic I tell you.  Although I do understand cabin fever as I was a little stuck here yesterday with a flat tire (I could have fixed it myself I suppose but I was feeling a little wimpy).  Oh yeah and BTW, I would have eaten your minnestroni  :D

Andrea- How did T's pics go? Can't believe you missed the chat for batman returns ---just kidding!  I never thought of the telling other mom's about the site thing.  I am actually really glad you said that because I don't think I will really tell anyone else...although be assured you said nothing that anyone could find offensive.  Also, thanks for the sleep pep talk, I don't get to see alot of other moms so it's good to hear that we are doing well.  Finally, yogurt? Are they allowed to have it before one year?

Nancy- I thought that was so funny what you said about it's not like Olivia comes up to you and says "Mother..."  I mean really...it drives me crazy when people think Sophie is sooooo easy...I want to say well you know, I have had to work out a FEW kinks...and whenever they want me to trash the sched. they say, but she's always so good...duh! Why do you think?

Nikki-Yeah for Danielle!!  And yes that was hysterical about Nathan and the booby comment.

Traci- didn't mean to sound insensitive in my earlier post when I said it sounded like all went well...kinda skipped over the part about him crying all the way home.  We've had that situation before.  Not fun.  I hope you have a good night!

As for us, we have had a nightmare day...don't really no why.  Seemed like Sophie was on a hunger strike yesterday...hmmm. She did take a good df, but was up at 4:30 and would not go back to sleep.  Finally fed her at 6.  And she was really hungry.  I felt bad for waiting so long, I guess I should have known.  Anyhow, that threw the whole day off because she went back to sleep till 8:30, dh let her sleep while I went for a run with a friend.  So then it was PU/PD for both naps and bed time she took about 30 mins to settle.  She did finally eat though.  I fed her a ton of prunes cause I haven't seen a poop in a few days...I am sure I'll learn a lesson about that sometime in the  middle of the night tonight.

As usual, I couldn't live without you...dh calls you my "imaginary friends" (but in a nice way
 :lol :lol:
Take care,
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 23, 2005, 03:22:35 am
hi all!!
naomi: i hope things start going better around your house.  And I hope Jayson is feeling better soon!!

hannah:  I just made spaghetti how I usually do....extra lean ground beef, tomato sauce, onions, garlic, basil, red pepper flakes  :D   (Jack has already tried regular baby food beef-absolutely disgusting!!)  Then just pureed with water.  He gobbled it up.  My mom thinks I'm crazy.  But we just had an article in the newspaper (gospel-right??)  that said spices were fine to feed babes....so tonight I made ---are you ready for this----red curry chicken with tomatoes and onions (medium spice).  He loved it.  It didn't even phase him :D   In the newspaper article it said if you had a varied diet while pregnant than so would the baby.  I ate jalepenos like they were going out of style while I was pregnant so I'm not surprised that Jackson is so far enjoying a little spice!!  :shock:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 23, 2005, 03:35:52 am
Wow...everyone has been so busy! And I've only been gone for the afternoon and evening!

Andrea--I agree...I think we're all doing well on sleeping "through." I was really stressed out the Liv wasn't sleeping 12 hours WITHOUT waking, all the time. Until I learned that "sleeping through" is considered missing one feed. (Did I read that in Tracy's book?) Anyway, now I feel better that she sleeps from 7:30-7:30  most of the time, and sometimes wakes for only one feed. And I'm with you on Kate Holmes...not a big fan either!!

I don't make my own baby food, and I don't buy organic. I figure I've got enough other things I'm trying to figure out as a new parent. I don't need the added stress. But good for you guys who do!!! My hat's off to you!!

Hannah---I'm glad you liked my comment. It does make me laugh when people talk about what a "good" baby Liv is. I just want to say, "Do you know how long it's taken us to get here?" We were at the ILs a couple of months ago, and my SIL was there with their newborn (3 months younger than Liv). They are a "fly by the seat of our pants" family and have nothing resembling a routine. It was funny to me b/c everyone kept commenting on how "content" Liv was and how "fussy" the other baby was. I wasn't gloating or anything...I felt really bad for them and wanted to help. I tried to mention BW and how much it helped us. But they didn't seem very open, so I dropped it. My BIL's philosophy is "No baby has ever died from crying too much." It broke my heart.

Has anyone left their LO overnight yet? We're supposed to leave Liv with my ILs for a night in a couple of weeks. We're hoping to go camping on my ILs property with some friends (they have 120 acres on a river). So the ILs offered to keep Liv overnight so I could camp, too. We would be 10 minutes from the house. But it still makes me nervous...she's so young. I'm mostly nervous about the routine, b/c I don't think my MIL gets it. I'm pretty flexible with it. For example, tonight we went to a friend's b-day party, so Liv didn't go to bed until 9:00!!! I hope we don't pay for that later tonight!! Anyway, wanted to see if anyone else has left their LO overnight yet and how it went.

Sorry for the long post...I guess I had a lot to say! Going to bed now...G'night all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 23, 2005, 03:39:14 am
OK, just read my post and realized I made it sound like we're a lot more flexible than we really are. We don't regularly keep her out so late. What I meant was, we try to stick pretty close to the routine, but we understand that there will be occasions that we can't, or times when we make exceptions. We just try to make them truly exceptions rather than the rule!!

OK, now that I've cleared that up...I'm off to bed.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 23, 2005, 06:22:14 am
HI Imagainary Friends!   :lol:  :lol:  That's funny Hannah!  T's pics went okay....she wasn't too smiley like she usually is.  In fact she was kind of off all day, she had a screaming fit for her last nap and then slept for 1.5 hours (her cat nap! :? ) 
I did want to mention that and see waht you all thought...for the last couple of days she has taken an 1.15 minute am nap, then a 1 hour pm nap then a 1.5 hour cat nap!  I don't know what's going on with this chick.  She will go several days with no catnap so I think she is raedy to drop it...then this.  I swear they are a never ending research project!
And yes Hannah, you can give yogurt starting at 6 months.  I am reading Super Baby Food (someone asked for a book recommendation on making your own baby food).  It is pretty strict though, so not following all of it.  but it has great info. on what to give at what age, amounts, etc.

Also, anothher Q?  Any of you experience a 6 month growth spurt?  I'm not sure if T is having one right now actually because she seemed starving all day.  Just seems like this 6 month growth spurt is not as obvious as the 6 week and 3 month.

Nicki-glad to see that someone else is doing sort of a flexible EASY.  Lately with the 2 classes I've joined it seems like we are as well, and sometimes I feel guilty...but she seems to be so adaptable I am not being as strict as I once was. 

Traci-glad to hear the MIL visit went well.  Hope Cole didn't get too much dog hair on him! :lol:

Goodnight all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 23, 2005, 07:55:15 am
Well we had a lovely day out and Danielle did fab!  We left just after 9am to time in with her nap and we were going about 40mins away, so she slept for about 30mins of that than we left the animal park about 1pm and she should have slept all the way home but only napped for 10mins, was awake until her 3pm feed and I popped her into bed at 3.15pm and needed to wake her at 5pm.  So all in all she did well, very unEASY LOL, but I find it a lot easier 2nd time around to "let it go" LOL.

It's always facinating to see what the different countries have for their recommendation for introducing some foods.  I think tomatoes and yoghurt here are from 8mths onwards.  Of course, I'm not too sure really what difference it makes - what makes 8mths the magic number iykwim?

Andrea, not sure about the 6mth GS, Danielle's are never clear, she only ever seemed to wake more at night with her days unchanged?  I only saw one GS with Nathan at 5wks and that was it.

Traci, sorry your night out wasn't the best, Nathan always seemed to need a day at home the next day to resettle into his normal routine.

Micky,   :shock:  at the mum only feeding solids to her 5.5mth old, I don't know if I could have kept my mouth shut. :roll:  :P  (But then I'm probably one of those annoying interferring know-it-alls. :oops: )  In a nice non critical way of course. :wink:

Night all.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 23, 2005, 13:50:00 pm
well my fine ladies, I had it out with dh last night, I basically if I don't start getting any help around the huose,ie, cleaning and routine then I won't go back to work.
So this morning I woke up late to find he wrote down what she had for breakfast, and the cats were fed, something he never does. The way I put things to him, is I can do it by myself so how come the other two adults can;t help me do it.
Jay is feeling better thank you everyone, just made me feel like crap cuz I thoguht I had gotten the rigth medication for him, and he got sick anyway...
He is alot better temperement wise, his words are cracking me up, and he is mastering the bewildered look, quite cute I can tell you.
We never got the pics done, he was screaming half the morning, i didn't think it would be fair to him.
I must dash for now, Riley is rocking and doing her "clap" to the wiggles and they sing, smiling away as per usual.
Take Care ladies....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 23, 2005, 15:58:41 pm
hmmm...so should I not be giving Jackson tomatoes???  I have no idea.  The only thing my ped. said to me last visit was to wait on dairy type products (yogurt, cheese) until 9 months.  How about letting him try citrus type foods like mandarin oranges??  I'm so clueless!! :oops:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 23, 2005, 16:29:40 pm
Oh Micky it is so confusing!  I read no citrus until at least 9 months, maybe even a year! :?   funny that none of the books can agree!  the only consistent thing I have read is no homemade carrots, leeks, kale until at least 7-9 months.

DH asked me this mornign, have you talked to your pen pals yet this morning?   :roll:   he thinks he is so funny!

So I'm setting my alarm now and going to be a little more consistent with T's wake up time...believe it or not but 15-30 minutes difference is making a difference in her naps.  so I am getting her up by 7:30.  Finding that 9ish is ideal time for her first nap...like this morning up at 7:30 and she was down by 9:05! :shock:   only 1.5 hours A time!  then 2-2.5 A time in the afternoon so she is down for her second nap by 1ish.  I'll let you know if I see a difference in more consistent naps again.

Have a good day!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 23, 2005, 16:40:44 pm
Andrea, it is so funny how much we rely on this thread, I swear it keeps my sanity.
When Riley was born, we were given a book from the public health sevices called "Food in the First year" did anyone else get something like that?
It just says to give them a variety of friuts and veg, I have n clue at times. I am lazy when it comes to Riley's food, it is store bought.
Her naps are changing too, with her on a routine of EAEAS, she is down to 2 naps, usually about 1hr or 1.5 hrs.
Things are sooo much better here today, Jay is squealing away, you'd never know he had an ear infection.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 23, 2005, 17:06:08 pm
Hello everybody,

I finally have time to post! I have been lurking as this thread moves so fast that I only have time to catch up on how/what everybody is doing and then DD needs me!

I posted before that I was dropping the dreamfeed (having moved it back to 9 pm) and that I was not feeding at any time during the night. Well, after 2.5 weeks of random wakings, I threw in the towel. I went back to DFing at 10:30 pm on Friday night and she didn't wake until 4:45 am at which time I fed her and she slept until 7 am. Last night, same thing, DF at 11 pm and she slept through until 5:45 am. DH put her back to sleep and she slept until 7 am.

SO... my conclusion, she is not ready to have her DF moved or dropped. I was totally being selfish anyway... I didn't want to have to feed her anymore and was rushing her as a result. Anyway, I am feeling a bit more rested the past couple of days so... if it ain't broke, don't fix it right?

Her normal bedtime was 6:45 pm but she is getting earlier and earlier due her dropping her catnap. I found that 6:30 - 7:00 is the best bedtime for her because then, we can usually count on her sleeping until at least 6:30 or 7 in the morning. IF she wakes up at 5:45 or 6, it is DH's duty to put her back to sleep because that is the normal time he gets up for work anyway. Most of the time, he is successful. He has an amazing success rate for putting Arwyn back to bed. WAY better than I do.

To all of you who have DHs that don't help out... FYI, I have it out with DH on a regular basis about the housework. I simply can't clean, feed DD and myself, do laundry, cook dinner, wash DD's dishes and ours, etc... without help. DH's reply? We better get "The Maids" in Grandma & Grandpa get here.  :roll: So, guess who will have to phone around for the maid service. Don't get me wrong... I am not complaining about a maid service but we can't afford it long term. I know it is going to be a one time thing so what about the rest of the time???? post-maid service??? Anyhow, DH is pretty good about it all but he is a BIG TIME procrastinator!

Andrea... about other moms coming to this site. I know that my drop-in friends lurk here. Sometimes they know stuff about Arwyn that I only post here  :wink: about sleep and routine. Quite funny because they both follow BW and it's not like I don't tell them about our days. I also hang out with them quite regularly. I am sure there are other people out there that know me and have read my posts. It is hard to hide with names like Ankie and Arwyn.

Baby food... I make my own using organic fruits and veggies BUT only for this first round to introduce foods. There is a history of food allergies to some fruits and veggies in my family so I want to make sure that it is the food Arwyn is allergic to, not the pesticides. My sister swears up and down that her allergies are to the food itself but I want to make sure. I have also purchased jarred food for convenience.

I don't know how much longer I will keep making her food. She is on a solid strike right now and I feel I have been wasting food cuz I have to throw it out. DH has "tricked" her into eating solids by putting a Cheerio atop her spoonful of food. She will eat Cheerios until the cows come home and knows what cookies are. DH and I are both cookie freaks so she sees us eating them alot  :oops:  and definitely knows her Arrowroot cookies.

As for the sequence of foods to be introduced??? I follow the one in Pure & Simple Homemade Baby Food but it does contradict with other sources. I figure that if I vaguely follow it, it is good enough. I pick and choose as you may be able to tell cuz I have already given her Cheerios and Arrowroots, both which contain wheat products and sugar.  :roll:

Okay... long post, sorry... AND I apologize to those I have not addressed. I do love hearing about all the los and have been diligently reading about everybody. I just can't seem to get on here as much as I would like lately.

Ta ta...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 23, 2005, 18:40:22 pm
Andrea, Liv just went through what I think was a 6-month growth spurt. She tends to hit her GSs about a week before she hits that age. She started waking at night and needing a feed to get back to sleep. She wasn't interested in eating much during the day for a couple of days, then she wanted to eat every couple hours for a few days! She was also very fussy and clingy, but I don't know if that was due to the GS or to her teeth coming in...yes, they happened at the same time--lucky me!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 23, 2005, 20:59:35 pm
Hi everyone - we're back  :D  ...and I have caught up on my 14 pages of reading.  I was thinking on the plane on the way back how I was looking forward to coming back and catching up with my virtual BW friends.

Richelle - So glad to hear you weathered the storm OK - I brought all sorts of blankets on the plane and ended up BF in the airport on the way there and then constructing a tent on the way back and BF on the plane.  She was better than I had hoped both ways, so I was happy about that.

We had a great time in Puerto Rico, though it's sad to come back to chilly weather (and it's not even that cold yet!).  Tried to keep Katie sort of on schedule while we were away - at least in keeping with her eating at roughly the same time and then getting her naps in as well.  (The eating definitely went better than the naps!)  Our nights also did go pretty well too - the first and the last were a bit rough, but not too bad at all.  I've got a picture below of her in the sand and another one we took just about a week ago.  I LOVED everyone else's pictures and enjoyed looking at them. 

Hayley - happy belated birthday!
Ankie - happy Anniversary!

Hooray for sleeping babies and eating babies (so many on this thread right now!).  What else....oh, I LOVE British Columbia - DH and I honeymooned there and had a wonderful time. 

Would love to chat sometime - will check to see when everyone is around.  Oh, Katie has a Taggies book which she loves and we've had some success with the Nuby cup.  Think that's about it - looking forward to hearing from everyone!
Title: Saying Hello
Post by: B&BMommy on October 23, 2005, 23:10:14 pm
Hello all, I'm new to this group. I just joined.
Wanted to say hello,

My name is Holly, my son is 7 months old (Born March 20) and his name is Brady.  I am so looking for help in establishing a routine with him. Is it too late to start one.  I was told at the hospital that I feed, let sleep and everything inbetween on demand. I now have a very spirited baby boy, who won't nap longer than 15-20 minutes and wakes constantly through the night. 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  We all need sleep.  I now realize that babies need routines and I'm afraid its too late.

Help!

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 23, 2005, 23:25:11 pm
girls, this is going to be loooooooooooooooooooooong.  there is just so much to talk about that I don't know where to start.

hannah-was it you who thought you were getting your period because you were overly sensitive or something?  i thought it funny that you apologized thinking you'd upset me for saying that yesterday went well.  LOL  It did go well, aside from the ride home.  Cole was fine after and had a great nights sleep thankfully.

Whomever asked about the growth spurt.  Cole was 6 months on a wednesday...and he had a spurt on the wed. the week before, the day of and the week after???  Basically took I think two extra feeds at night.  Fed at 8pm and maybe one additional middle of the night feed.  days stayed the same.

as for solids, my ped told me to start with the grains, go to veggies then fruit, then meat.  I was surprised that meat was allowed after 6 months...i thought it would be later.  Egg yolk wait until 8-10 months, egg whites wait until 10-12 and dairy after 12.  I want to start Cole on a veggie tomorrow but it would have to be potato as it's the only thing in the house.  I have Annabel Karamels First Meals and it says not to blend potato or sweet potato as it gets gluey but to use a sieve or food mill :?  :?  :?  I think I'll just mash it through a strainer.  Nikki-great to hear than Danielle is finally getting the hang of it.

I went shopping today!  I left the house for 3 hours.  I was supposed to be gone longer but I called home to check on the boys.  It took all my willpower not to call for the first couple of hours.  I figured no harm.  I left when Cole was down for nap 2.  It was only 30 minutes long :?   I think because DH didn't listen to my instructions AGAIN and held him too long so he couldn't transition.  Then he only took 2 oz. at his bottle.  Then he crawled away while being changed and peed all over the carpet.  DH was fine but a little worried that he hadn't eaten.  He also didn't hear me say to give him cereal if he didn't take the bottle.  Oh well.  I came home and DH had successfully put him down for catnap. We had to wake him at 4:45.  Cole keeps taking shorter 2nd naps and longer catnaps and i'm not sure if it's a big deal.  He still went down okay for 6:30 or so tonight so i guess it doesn't matter. 

Anyway, I spent $500!!!  It was so great.  My future SIL has great taste in clothes.  She is soooo stylish.  Keep in mind that I have worn 11 different coloured t-shirts (Old Navy) and two pairs of capri pants all summer.  I had one other pair of pants and a skirt that I wore (with the t-shirts) to summer functions.  And my pregnancy wardrobe was pretty meager too.  I deserved some clothes. 
I got a green twead coat and cute little floral top (H&M), dark jeans and dark teal velvet fitted blazer (gap), cream hoodie, silk belt/scarf, black v neck sweater (Old Navy) and green V neck sweater (Club Monaco).  Was supposed to get boots, handbag and necklace too...but I'll have to do that myself with Cole.  I'll have to take pics in my new duds on Sunday.  We're going to brunch.  I can't wait to surprise everyone.  I usually look so blah and like such a frump.  I have to admit that the jeans look super sexy :wink:   And they are the "long and lean" style.  I never ever in a million years would have tried them on without Marta there.  I usually go for curvy because my legs are bigger than everything else.  Funny though...I think they are smaller than they used to be.

Oh, and I guess Cole doesn't sleep through by definition.  No biggie.  As long as he goes right back down after feeding at sleeps until 6 I consider the night a huge success.  Last night he fed at 10:30 and 3:00.  He latched on like a madman at 3 but I only gave one boob and he settled right back down until 6:30.  yippee.  I think I'll try to reduce the number of minutes on the boob and if that doesn't work I'll try water at night.   Not sure about the bottle though since he wasn't too impressed to drink from it today.  I wonder if it's because I've introduced the sippy too with a different "nipple"?  OR I could try wake to sleep again.  It seems he wakes pretty much around 4 hours after his night feed. 

oops, ILs are here.  They went to an Elvis show hee hee and were passing through so they are staying for dinner.  I just want to ask one more thing...

how much cereal do you give your los?  The box says to work up to 3 tbsp.  Cole is already up to 3 after one week and he gobbles it up.  So now do I give him 3 tbsp and some veggies?

I wonder if he didn't take more than 2 oz this afternoon because he wasn't hungry?  After he woke from catnap I offered the boob and he ate but not with as much muster as I would expect :?   I guess I won't worry too much.  If he wakes up extra tonight them maybe I'll know he didn't get enough milk.

alright girls.  see you tomorrow.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 02:10:45 am
Hi Holly,

Welcome to BW!  Hopefully we can help you out.  It's never too late to start your little one on a routine.  It may take a little longer to establish it because he will have certain habits ingrained...but it will be well worth it in the end.  Maybe to start you could give us an idea of what your day looks like?  How often to you feed and approximately the times?  The times you attempt to put your lo down for naps, even though they are short?  And what time do you put him to bed at night and what time does he wake for the day.  By looking at your day we might be able to offer suggestions.

You may also want to look at the top of this forum for sample EASY schedules for 6+ month olds.  You'll see how often people breast/bottle feed, offer solids and put their los down for naps and night sleep.

If you don't have Tracy's books I suggest you buy her newest one The Baby Whisperer Solves All Your Problems.  There is a lot of valuable information in there, including I believe a section on putting your lo on a routine when they've never had one.

By the way, I'm just around the corner in Scarborough near the Rouge Hill GO Station :D

I'll check in the morning to see if you've posted again.

Feel free to PM me if you have any specific Qs and I'll do my best or at least help you post your questions on the appropriate forum.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 24, 2005, 02:35:19 am
Thanks so much for your post Traci....wow you are close by!  :D
Okay so as for our routine, or lack of I should say... changes from day to day, as I mentioned before, Brady makes his own schedule, which was what I was originally told to do at the hospital etc. Being a first time mom, I thought they were right, I don't know anymore, as we just can't seem to establish a routine at all.  Thanks for your help in trying to get Brady onto a schedule. I appreciate it greatly. 

Our day starts around 6:30am, bf, plays for about an hour then back for nap around 7:30-8:00 am.  Naps for only about 15mins-30mins
Back up , plays. At approx 10:30am, cereal  and bottle.  Nap for about 15-30 mins.  Back up again.  Fussy at about noon, try to put back down, maybe will sleep for half an hour.  Eats again around 2:30pm - cereal, and fruit and bottle, won't sleep after this meal.

Won't sleep again until around 4pm, this is usually his longest sleep, maybe for about 45 minutes.  Up again, and then  will eat around 6:30, cereal, and veggie, then bottle. only 4-5 oz this time as I do one bf before bedtime again.  Plays, had daddy and him time, bath, bed routine, then bf at about 8:30pm and then to bed by around 9pm. 

Now as for his night sleep habits.  Bed around 9pm. wakes about half an hour later. After picking him up and rocking with him, he will fall back asleep till around mindnight. Then hes' up fussing quite intensly, hard to calm him down.  He will go down again in about an hour for about 45 minutes, then back up, and this is truly our routine until 6:30 am again. And we start all over again. He doesn't seem to want to sleep in his crib, but will sometimes be soothed by sleeping lying on me.  Problem is I can't sleep that way. :!:   Also I should meniton that I am at fault, I give a night time feeding sometimes around 3-4 am in hopes he will fall back asleep, so as you can see, I am in need of getting a routine going and sticking to it.

So that is our day. I'm so hoping I can establish a routine with him soon. I will be going to get Tracy's new book for sure.  Any advice would be so greatly appreciated.  Thanks Traci.

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 24, 2005, 03:31:54 am
Hi All!  I missed you ladies today as I was out of the house from 11-8 today!  I went to a friends house and she taught me how to make homemade meatballs and spaghetti sauce!   :D   It turned out amazing!  DH stayed home with T (what a good guy :wink: ) and then he brought T over to our friends house at 5 for dinner.  He said everythign went well all day except she was a little fussy after her 1pm nap eventhough she slept for 1.5 hours.   :? HMMM...so I asked how much did she drink at her 3 pm bottle and he said "oh I didn't feed her again, I only gave her 1 bottle at 11 and then her lunch."   :shock:  :shock:  :shock: WHAT?!?!!?!?!?  He said he jsut completely forgot...didin't even think about it!!!  NO WONDER SHE WAS FUSSY!  When she got to our friends house my girlfriend who is well endowed was holding her and she kept trying to go after her boobs!!!  No wonder! :lol:  :lol:   Oh well, at least he tried :wink:

Anyhow, enough about us.

Traci, it was me feeling hormonal yesterday...don't know what was up with me.  AF still hasn't come!  And it is so interesting to hear that Cole's catnap is getting longer too, as Taylor's has for the last 3 days now.  One night I finally had to wake her at 6 pm!  She still made it to bed by 7:30 though.  She has been taking 1.5 tbsp of cereal plus two veggie/fruit cubes at dinner and she gobbles it down, so I think it is time to increase.  I would suggest just giving Cole some veggies with his cereal as well.  And good for you and your shopping spree!!!

Erin-so exciting!  A trip to Puerto Rico!  Glad you had fun and Katie did well.  Adorable picture btw! 

Naomi-glad to her J is feelign bettter so you can have some sanity back!

Ankie-I think you did the right thing about the DF.  I don't think we are going to try weaning her from it until at least 7 months and then the plan in Tracy's book is to wean for a couple of weeks, so she will be at least 7.5 months.  I think I will have to start limiting who I tell about this site too.  Kind of strange your friedns come on her and look at your posts, huh?  It is kind of like eavesdropping, eventhough I know this isn't a private forum.  Just kind of seems sneaky to me.

Nancy and everyone else who replied back to me about the GS, thanks so much!

And finally Holly, Welcome to the site.  You have definitely come to the right place!  First, Traci is correct in that you MUST get Tracy's new book...it is excellent and will give you so many great suggestions and will really give you a solid plan.  I would start there, as well as reading the sleep interview taht you can download in the sleep forum.

It sounds like you need to teach your little guy to sleep independently, which may be a hard journey ahead, BUT SO WORTH IT! 
Second, it seems like he may have to short of an Awake time in between naps.  For his age, he should be able to stay up 2-2.5 hours and then be ready for a nap.  Because he is up for a short time, he doesn't need to sleep very long.
Third, his bed time also should be moved up to about 7-7:30 (some moms even do 8 pm but that is if he is waking up around 8 am).

BUt before you attempt all these things, I think you definitely need to do your research first and then come up with a plan.  Because if not, you may just end up getting more frustrated by trying diferent things.  It is not too late, and it may be tough for the next few weeks, but you can do it!!!  ANd it will be so worth it!  PM me if oyu have any specific Q's.

Good luck and good night ladies!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 24, 2005, 03:32:57 am
Welcome Holly!

Just looking at your day here and it would seem to me that Brady doesn't get enough day sleep and that interferes with his night sleep. A 6:30 am wake-up is great. You will find that most of us on this thread put our little ones down between 6 and 7 pm.

There is some helpful information on the boards that can get you started. One is a guideline about how many hours of sleep an infant should get at certain ages (on the sleep forum). Another is the sample 3 and 4 hour EASY routines (on this forum).

At 6 months, night sleep should total 12 hours and day sleep, 2hr 15m (although some may need longer). According to Tracy Hogg, the amount of day sleep will affect night sleep. If they don't get enough, it will cause night wakings.

What I would try is to have Brady follow a loose 4 hour routine at first. He sounds like he is able to be awake for around 2 hours which is perfect. So... start by keeping your feedings on a 4 hours routine while you work on the nap times. Put him back to sleep 2 hours to the time he last woke up. You will find that you need to keep adjusting your routine so that feedings don't coincide with sleeping but that's okay. If he doesn't sleep at least 45 minutes, you need to pu/pd or pat/shush him back to sleep because he has grown accustomed to sleeping only 15 - 20 minutes.

Don't try to change everything at once. Work on one nap at a time... if you feel you can tackle more, then go for it but give yourself time and give Brady time to adjust and learn what you are teaching him. Be good to yourself too and take a break when you need it.

Good luck and let us know how it goes. We'll be here for you!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 24, 2005, 04:40:43 am
Hi everyone and welcome to Holly,

I don't often write on this thread but I do usually read them every couple of days.  it certainly moves very fast. :shock:   James is doing really well, crawling everywhere and pulling himself up.   everyone keeps telling me he will walk before he is 1.   :shock:  :shock: I think I will have to hit the gym to keep up. :lol:

In regards to solids, James is having a wide variety.  He is eating yoghurts on the odd occasion, and I haven't had any problems.  I havent' tried things like tomatos but he is having toast and vegemite.  I asked my health nurse about things like that and was informed that when they have 2 teeth and are sitting then they can try toast etc (usually about 8mths).  I told them J is already doing that and has 2 teeth and they said it would be fine just as long as you watch him.  So far, so good, no choking.  He also eats couscous (I mash it in with his veges after it is cooked and it is soft and easy to eat).  J actually really likes this.  I have tried him on some egg custard but will try and make mine in thefuture.  I think sometimes we just need to trust our instincts more and use everyone else as a guide.  There is so much information out there, that at tiimes, it can be veryc onfusing. :?

I think J is now cutting his 3rd tooth.  Naps have been very short and eratic today.  It is one of his top teeth, so hopefully in the next few days it will be better.  This is our routine at the moment (I hope this helps you Holly): 

6am awake
6:30am bottle (210ml)
7:15am cereal
7:45am wash/dress
8:00am play
8:30amish:  sleep
10am awake
10:30am bottle
10:45am pla
12pm:  lunch (2 veges and fruit)
12:30pm sleep
2pm: awake
2:30pm bottle
2:45pm play
4:30pm:  nap (no later than 5pm)
5:00pm dinner (meat and veges + fruit)
5:30pm bath
6:00pm dressed and play with dad
6:30pm bottle
7:00pm bed 

Of course, this is ideal, but naps are not always 1.5hrs long, usually the morning one is and then gradually get smaller during the day.  Very rarely wakes during the night unless he gets stuck and we fix him up and he is okay.  Settling is still not perfect, but what ever is.   Everything else is good, so I guess I have to have something that is not.

Hope everyone has a lovely day and week

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 24, 2005, 05:49:44 am
Richelle, I just realized that I forgot to tell you congratulations on resigning!  I know it is strange territory, but I think you did the right thing.  Stay strong and don't let them persuade you otherwise!

Lisa, good luck with James and his 3rd tooth.  Hopefully he is not too miserable.  I agree about using your instinct about the solids, otherwise we can go crazy with all the confilicting advice!  I am double checking with my ped. tomorrow, and if she gives the okay I am just going to go with the Super Baby Food book and follow those guidelines.  I think just choosing one book/advice and going with it is the best route for us.

And someone was asking about the sweet potatoes and not pureeing them.  What I did was mash them up and then add a fair amount of water as they were very dry.  Then I blended them with a hand blender and that worked very well.  They were still pretty dry when I put them into the ice cube trays for freezing, so when I thaw them now I just add a little more water to make it suitable for Taylor, then heat.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 24, 2005, 05:56:21 am
BTW, here are some pics from the wedding we went to last weekend.  As you can see T was hamming it up with my Uncle!  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 24, 2005, 06:13:29 am
Andrea... beautiful pictures. Taylor looks like she is really enjoying your uncle's attention! You guys are a beautiful family!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 24, 2005, 06:18:46 am
Lovely pics Andrea, what a great looking family!  :D

I agree with picking one weaning guide and going with that.  Here we get given a sheet with foods and months and that's what I used with Nathan and will do the same with Danielle.

Welcome Holly, looks like some of the girls are taking good care of you working through some issues.

Traci, your shopping spree sounds wonderful!  I also found after having Nathan that my bum was smaller than before, but it's not now after Danielle!  :lol:  :?  But I'm working on it and have been exercising and stopped eating rubbish in the evening.  Only have a couple of kgs to lose and I'm halfway there - gotta get into that bikini this summer. :wink:   BTW, with the sleeping through definition, like you say, it doesn't really matter, it's just great that you're happy with what he's doing that's the main thing.   Fortunately with our night waking I'm out of bed, fed and back in bed within 5mins.

Erin, sounds like you had a really lovely holiday, cute pics!

Well that's it from me.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 24, 2005, 08:44:10 am
Hi everyone, and welcome Holly. I've been keeping up (kind of) by reading the past couple of days, but haven't had a chance to write. So much has happened, I won't be able to remember or comment on much, but....

$500 shopping, oh how wonderful. Good on you Traci. I keep saying I'm going to get some new lingerie, but haven't managed it yet.

Gorgeous pics of Taylor and the family.

Lisa, sounds like James' eating is going really well. I guess teeth may help a little, with the tearing of things anyway. Hopefully the 3rd tooth won't be too painful for him. We're still waiting on Daniel's first, so not sure how it's going to be.

Sorry, I can't recall everything else that has happened, I definitely need to keep up to date on this site at least twice a day I think! Not once in 2 days! :oops:

Things are going okay here. Well pretty well I guess. Daniel's been a little grouchy, I'm wondering if it's his teeth threatening to come thru. Either that, or getting frustrated with not being able to move. I noticed today instead of just sitting and reaching for toys then givihg up because he can't reach, he's actually trying to reach further and leans forward onto his calves a bit balancing somehow and reaching the toy, so his but is coming off the floor IYKWIM. Mmmm maybe this is the start of his new moves. I hope so.

The other strange thing is, which I'm trying not to worry about, is he seems to be totally off his solids. After a slow start, he really started gobbling them up about 3 weeks ago, then this last week he's just not interested. If he gets thru an icecube size worth it's good at the moment, he was getting thru 4 cubes three times a day. Any suggestions of what I should do? Have any of your LO's done this?

We had a great day yesterday, the weather was great and I spend a huge part of the day in the garden. That was after DH looked after Daniel until about 11.30am (except for b/f of course) and I slept in. Then, when Daniel wasn't taking a nap, we had him in the shade outside on a rug with his toys and exersaucer. Then my brother and SIL and kids turned up and we all hung around outside, playing ball/frisbee etc. Daniel was a little nervous at first, but he was okay. I think he's just starting to go thru that 'not so sure of strangers' phase. And as we don't see my brother very often, they're considered strangers in Daniel's eyes. Something I need to make an effort to change.

Enough ramblings from me, see you all tomorrow!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 24, 2005, 09:41:24 am
Hi

Just testing to see if my picture worked.

Also, does anyone's LO turn their head on the side to look at things (like a pup does when you talk to it :lol: ) DD's ear is just about stuck to her shoulder all the time - she will even bend her whole body over if it's really interesting  :lol:  :?:  :?:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 12:11:39 pm
Good Morning Everyone,

Cole actually did sleep through last night!  Hooray.  Fed at 6pm, bed by 6:30, fed at 11 and woke at 5:50.  His bedtime is getting a touch later because of the late catnap...but I think it will work out well with the time change coming up.  He woke a tiny bit early but NO wakeups at all other than 11pm!!!  So should I mimic yesterday for him in order to sleep through again ie.  no midday feed, 30 minute nap and peeing on carpet LOL!

Holly-I have to ask or it will bother me.  I was speaking with two women at Pickering Town Centre a couple of weeks ago in the food court.  One had a baby boy your age...with reflux.  That's not you is it?  I recommended BW to them so I thought there was a slight chance it could be you. Anyway, I digress...
I agree with the other girls that Brady needs to stay up longer in order to be tired enough to sleep longer.  Also, a sleep cycle is about 40 minutes long and if he doesn't know how to soothe himself he won't be able to get back to sleep once he comes out of deep sleep.   
Hopefully you can get out today to get the book, and if you're not too sleep deprived read a bit.  I'll come back and post in a bit which page it is that shows how to put your lo on a routine. (Edit) Holly, the section on how to put your lo on a routine starts on page 39 at the bottom.  You'll need to read other chapters too before starting...Sleep and Pick Up Put Down as well.

Andrea-LOVE Taylors dress.  Love the pattern and she seems to be having a great time :D

Cole was pretty fussy just now so I put him down a touch early...hope I'm not going to pay with a 45 minute nap :?   we'll see.

gotta go get DH out of bed.  He didn't sleep because he's still fretting that he failed his exam :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 24, 2005, 13:47:06 pm
Morning everyone (or whatever time of day it may be!)--

Holly - I agree with what everyone else has said - just let us know what sort of individual problems you have.  Like Ankie (I think) said, you can work on one nap at a time - good day sleep leads to good night sleep and it's easier to work on things in the daytime!

Andrea - Taylor looks adorable - and you and DH and her look great too!  Looks like a fun time!

Traci - Good for you to spend some time/money on yourself.  My DH always thinks he failed tests too after he took them.  He always does fine, sure yours did too.

Nikki - Good job on the weight loss - I can't seem to get rid of those last pounds no matter what I do (ok, I take that back, I haven't actually been trying - cutting out junk food after dinner would probably do wonders for me - at least now that it's colder here I won't eat ice cream every day anymore!).

Hayley - the lack of solids may be related to teething if they've been bothering him. 

Katie is definitely getting towards crawling - creeping along the rug a bit today and yesterday....very slowly...and trying very hard to get up on her hands and knees.  We're getting there  :shock:

Anyway, take care all!  I've got to get a new picture up, but I just can't get them the right size since we don't have photoshop (and I can't remember how I did it the first time) - will figure it out later.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 24, 2005, 15:08:05 pm
goodmorning to all!!

Holly good luck with starting BW....it requires A LOT of patience at first but VERY worth the effort!!!

Jack had a little bit of a rough night...he woke at 4:50 because he rolled onto his belly and couldn't figure out how to get back over at that time of night, then he woke 45 min later was able to resettle then woke for the day at 6:50..(we've been trying to move his clock back an hour for daylight savings)  so he was an hour too early would not go back to sleep and when I finally got him up to change his diaper...I got him out of his sleep bag and the whole side of him was wet and he had a poopy diaper!  :oops:  :oops: oops!!  poor guy he was trying to tell me something!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 24, 2005, 15:09:35 pm
Nancy you are the editor right??  My typing skills must send you over the bend!!   :lol:  :shock:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 24, 2005, 15:38:04 pm
Hello, lovely ladies!
Welcome, Holly!!!  I totally agree with the other girls...get that book!  You might want to read the first book first to get a good background.  But, the 3rd book (BWSAYP) is great for getting on a routine if you don't have one.  I think the more A time is the key.  Dig in for a few weeks of hard work, but after that, you'll be doing so much better!
Everyone else:  Sounds like things are great.  Erin and Andrea, loved the pictures!
We had our first Halloween party with my prenatal (or antenatal in NZ, I gather from Nikki?) group.  There are 6 boys and they looked adorable in their costumes!  When we tried to line them up on the couch for a pic, one started crying and next thing you know 4 out of 6 were screaming.  (Ryan didn't of course!   :D   Actually, I think he was too confused to cry!).  One girl is really struggling with sep. anxiety, since her daycare worker let her son CIO!  She went to pick him up early and he was in a room by himself screaming b/c "I just can't carry him around all day."   :evil:   Well, she isn't going back there again!  I kept whispering "Baby Whisperer!  Baby Whisperer!"  She got the book from her mom but never read it.  Trying not to be pushy, but it would REALLY help this little guy!

I did tell them about this site and one girl said, "We'll have to go find you there and see what you said."   :shock:   I said, "Oh, it's nothing you don't know already" and didn't give them my user name, although it wouldn't be too hard to figure out.  I'm sure there's nothing to hide...just wanting to keep my 2 mama worlds separate, kwim? 

Okay, that's it for now...just had to read all these pages...will type about  the world's scariest mommy event later. Have I peaked your curiosity?    (Is that even the right peak/peek?  Mommy brain strikes again!!!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 24, 2005, 15:44:43 pm
Really, going now...just downloaded these pics.  Too funny!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 24, 2005, 15:53:53 pm
hi I'm on here again....told you I'm a permanent fixture on here!!  :D  :lol:   
I was wondering where all the newbies went??  Roz, Emi, Macaire....I think that was it (sorry if I missed anyone else-I only went back to the beginning of this thread to get names).  It's a little intimidating to post at first but don't just be lurkers!!  :D  :D

I wanted to post a pic of my Jack-o-lantern!! :D  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 24, 2005, 16:40:49 pm
Good Afternoon all!

Hello and thanks for the welcome -Andrea, Ankie, Lisa, Nikki, Hayley, and Erin.

I appreciate you posting your schedules as well. Helpful to look at.
Ok so went out this morning and got both books, - secrets of the baby whisperer and the baby whisperer, solves all your problems.  The problem remains, which one to read first,  and when to find the time with a fussy one?????? :cry:

Traci - thanks for the page information.  and btw yes I am one of the ladies that was at the pickering town centre that day, if I remember correctly your mil was babysitting right?  Wow small world, and as you can see I took your advice and came on board here at the BW....got the books today as well.  And....yes my son is the one with reflux.  We just had a dr's appt this morning, the increased his medication.  I don't think his reflux helps with the sleeping either, its painful sometimes, and wakes him up constantly.........

Well, off now to see if I can put Brady down for a nap, wish me luck pls
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 16:52:52 pm
Holly,

that's great!  I thought it might be you.  You didn't mention the reflux in your original post and that's why I was unsure.  And your son was mostly turned away in the stroller so I didn't recognize his pic...which is totally cute by the way.  I am sending you a PM with my phone number.  Feel free to call if you think talking over some stuff might help first.

As for which book to read first.  There is a temperment quiz in the first book which might be helpful...but other than that you may want to start with the EASY, Sleep and PUPD chapters in the other book.  It's more specific than the first book.  I read the first book before Cole was born and found it somewhat vague I think.  Of course pregnancy brain could have been contributing.

okay, i'll discuss more over PM.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 16:53:46 pm
Holly,

that's great!  I thought it might be you.  You didn't mention the reflux in your original post and that's why I was unsure.  And your son was mostly turned away in the stroller so I didn't recognize his pic...which is totally cute by the way.  I am sending you a PM with my phone number.  Feel free to call if you think talking over some stuff might help first.

As for which book to read first.  There is a temperment quiz in the first book which might be helpful...but other than that you may want to start with the EASY, Sleep and PUPD chapters in the other book.  It's more specific than the first book.  I read the first book before Cole was born and found it somewhat vague I think.  Of course pregnancy brain could have been contributing.

okay, i'll discuss more over PM.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 24, 2005, 17:59:07 pm
oh my oh my ladies, man you guys do move fast.
Well I had my job interview today, it went well, even though I went in at 11am and left at 1:40pm :shock:
I should here back by the end of the week if I have it.
Holly, welcome aboard. What a beautiful boy you have.
Mickey, you are right, what did happen to our new posters, where did you all   go!!!!
Andrea- I love your new avatar, taylor is turning into one heck of a looker!!
Erin-Nice to know you had a nice vacation, way to go on trying to keep your routine going!!
becca- I love your new avatar too, is it me or do we all have some of the cutest babies ever!!!
Guys I love the pics, way too cute, mickey and kate, I could just eat them oooo, way too cute in their halloween outfits!!
BTW holly, I do agree that the book to get is bw solves all your problems, I find it to be perfect as I kinda use mine as a reference guide, it is highlighted like heck.
I trust you are all fine and doing well with your lo's, holly, I do agree with mickey I think it was, it is hard work, very trying at times, but once you get the EASY routine to work, it is sooooo worth it, good luck hun.
Ladies, maybe we should get together and have our own chat sometime!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 24, 2005, 18:43:09 pm
Hi Ladies,

Well it has been awhile...we have lost our networks throughout the caribbean (damn wilma) so the internet ect... have been on and off and I have finally caught up on all the new posts!!

Good question  as to where are all the new ladies???

Holly welcome and these ladies seem to have it covered but by all means come here for all the support you need and PS, it is a great place to vent :wink: !!

Andrea - what great pic's, Taylor looks adorable.  I wish it was cooler here so Sophie could wear tights!!

Traci - Well done on the shopping spree, bet you look fab!!

Hayley - Sophie had a weird week last week and was sort of ambivalent towards her solids but she is back to her hungry as a horse self, so maybe it is just a phase?

Bec LOL about the head tilt!!  I feel the same way about Sophie always having her mouth hanging open :oops:  :shock: !

Kate - OMG soooooooo cute and weel done on no cry baby!!

Naomi glad to hear J is feeling better and would love a chat sometime. 

In a another 5 weeks I will not have stinky work to contend with so I will want plenty of chats!!!!  Although I will stick with some consulting (maybe)!

It is Sophie's 6 months today!!  She is now doing laps of her crib throughout the night and has started flipping onto her stomach to sleep half the time.  Nothing has dissrupted her sleep yet though (knock on wood)!!  I am anxiously waiting for the crawling to begin in earnest as Sophie is a bit of a whacko I am scared for her to become truly mobile :oops: !

I am also worried well not worried but am questioning Sophie sleeping through the night - b/c she does go fully from 7 or 730PM to 6 or 630AM without waking or eating (we do not do a df), I wonder if she is getting enough food?  I know stupid thing to worry about and I should be thankful but I guess we always have tofret about something, any other of your LO's going that long without eating?

Richelle
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 24, 2005, 18:46:10 pm
HI Guys,

we jsut got back from Taylor's 6 month check up and it went very well...def. getting better at taking the shots! :D   She only cried for a few minutes.  She is 27.5 inches and is in the 100th percentile!  she is going to be tall like her momma.

Thanks for all the compliments on the pics!  It was the first time all 3 of us were dressed up together since she was born, so wanted to share the special occasion :wink:   Eveyone elses pics are super cute too!  Kate I think you have the cutest monkey ever, and Becca, love the avatar!  And Micky, what  a cute punkin!

Naomi, I hope you get the job!  I'm sure you were brilliant at your interview.  You know  they usually don't keep you that long if they are not interested.  I agree, we should have our own chat sometime!

Holly, I agree with Traci on reading more of the 2nd one.  I thought it was much more thourough, but the 1st one had good background info. too.  Traci will be great help to you (both Tracy's that is!)

So I don't have an actual pic of T in her Holloween get up yet, BUT, I do have a really funny pic of her naked with just her Minnie Mouse ears on!  While DH was getting her bath ready I undressed her and brought her out with just the ears.  We were crackign up for quite a while! :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 24, 2005, 18:51:09 pm
I'm back.   :oops:   Well, I WAS going to dye my hair...got all ready and no hair dye.   :?   Oh, well...will have to touch up later.

So, scariest moment so far.  We were going to an Open House since my il's are thinking about moving closer to us.  (They are currently about 30 mins. away.  Would be much nicer for me since mil does our day care when I work 2 mornings/week).  Anyway, we were looking at the basement.  Dh had Ryan and was the last one coming down.  All of the sudden I hear, "Whoa!" and I whip around to see my husband FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS WITH RYAN IN HIS ARMS!!!!   :shock:  :shock:  :shock: Holy cats!  Dh was wonderful.  Totally sacrificed his own body to protect Ryan.  He rolled Ryan into his body, then rolled his body to land on the side that wasn't holding the baby (if that makes sense).  Ryan was fine and seemed confused when everyone came rushing over and why sil and mil were screaming.  I was unusually calm.  Just felt like I knew they'd be okay, even when they were falling.  I got freaked afterwards, but during the time it was not scary for me.  Not sure why.  Dh is all banged up.   :(   Really hurt his ankle, knee, ribs, and something else (can't remember).  Like I said, totally sacrificed his body for my baby.  What a guy...if only he wasn't so sore I'd let him know how much I appreciated it.   :wink:   We kept saying, "I can't believe Ryan hasn't fallen off the bed or the changing table or gotten hurt yet."  I guess this will count for our near death experience!

Holly, I think BWSAYP would be better for your situation, BUT I remember reading it thinking, "If I hadn't read the first book, I'd be really confused."  So, read the BWSAYP, but go back to the first book if you are lost.  You CAN do it!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 24, 2005, 18:56:30 pm
Andrea and Richelle posted while I typed my novel.

Happy 6 months, Sophie!!!
Andrea:  Cute little Minnie...can't wait to see the whole costume!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 24, 2005, 19:01:46 pm
Quote from: Sophiesma
I am also worried well not worried but am questioning Sophie sleeping through the night - b/c she does go fully from 7 or 730PM to 6 or 630AM without waking or eating (we do not do a df), I wonder if she is getting enough food?  I know stupid thing to worry about and I should be thankful but I guess we always have tofret about something, any other of your LO's going that long without eating?

I want to have this worry!!!  :D  :D  :D   Richelle honestly I wouldn't worry at all.  My older girls were both sleeping like that at 12weeks every night and I never worried about it.  Sophie's body knows what she needs.  Man what I'd pay to get my girls doing that!!!  The last two nights around here have been crazy and it isn't just baby sleep that's insane.  It's also toddler/preschooler bedtime.  Last night I told dh I was ready to walk out the door and take off for a while at about 8.30pm.   I swear by 5pm I'm stressing already about dinner hour and bedtime for Kaia and Hannah.   They're overtired and cranky come 5.15pm.  Catnap is almost impossible to get out of them and it all goes downhill from there!  Ugh.... so when I do finally get them to fall asleep (well hannah that is as kaia goes off to sleep on her own just fine) Zoe honestly purposely starts being loud in order to upset me or wake them.   :roll:   I finally went to my room and closed the door and left it all for dh to deal with as I was honestly too frustrated.  It took me 1.5hours to get Hannah to sleep, and was ready and offering to read books to the older two when Zoe decided to just holler.  Nothing specific just whatever she could think of to make as much noise as possible and the more we asked/suggested she quiet down the louder she got.  UGH!!!   Same thing the night before and she succeeded in waking them up!!  Oh - the dark side of me emerged I was so ticked!   :oops:

So - they go to bed LATE (I'm mean like 10pm!!!!!!) and then wake up by 7am and are exhausted - then fall asleep during the next day and aren't tried at bedtime again... and again and again.  Day after day after day. 

Anyway gotta scoot.  I'm trying to keep Zoe awake with the tv while I feed - it's that time of day she can sneak in a nap because I'm busy feeding.  Sarah - I already lost that fight and just hoping that an hour nap at 1.30pm won't affect bedtime toooo bad. 

DH is going to Italy for 10days the end of November - please bedtime has got to be better by then!  He's gone for 3days this week too.

Holly Great to have you here!!  Hope you can get Brady's sleep worked out.  Too cool that you actually met Traci!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 24, 2005, 19:31:18 pm
Welcome HOLLY! Sounds like the other girls have got you sorted. Great advice from Ankie, to take it one nap at a time. It will be a tough few weeks but pop in and vent if you need to!
Cute pics of all the costumes!
KATE-the mokey costume was just precious! OMG, how scary was the fall! I keep dreading the day Sam falls. Your dh, what a guy!
MICKY-what a hoot, your little pumpkin looked good enough to eat!
RICHELLE-Sam goes 6-6 or 6.30 before his next feed so I would not worry. I was really worried at first but Judy put my mind at ease. I only do 4 milk feeds during the day plus 3 solid meals. When I was teaching him to sleep during the night and not wake for a feed, I would cluster him in the evenings but I have since stopped doing that as he is now having solids.
ANDREA-would love to see the whole costume so do post it when you take one.
NAOMI-good luck and do let us know about the job.
NIKKI-what sheet do you mean? Is it the plunket/Watties sheet or do you have a separate one? The Plunket one is so short and there is stuff I would like to know about, like strawberries. Also, does the nitrates in carrots apply here in NZ?
Great idea about organising a chat for our thread!
I go back to work on Monday the 31st of October :cry:
Part of me is really looking forward to it, I need a bit of a challenge but I will miss Sam soooo much.
Another great day here so must make the most of it.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 19:46:39 pm
wow,things are busy for all of us today.

Judy-sorry DH is gone so much this week and in November...gotta get that Hannah on board with BW :wink:

Kate- that is by far the scariest moment :shock: so glad ryan is okay.  I'm sure DH will recover, hopefully ALL of his parts :wink:  :wink:  :wink:

Richelle- hope things get back to normal soon for you.  watching the news is so scary.  I can't believe you experienced it first hand :oops:
Happy 6 months to Sophie :)   And I wouldn't go fretting over the full nights sleep.  if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Naomi-great news about the interview.  It's always good when they keep you a long time.  good luck! Happy Jayson is feeling better too.

Andrea-Minney is way cute, can't wait to see the full costume

Cole did end up having a short AM nap. Think he was fussy because he's teething, not tired.  Tons of drool today.  he had a 1.5 hour second nap though so we're back on track.  Down for catnap now...not sure how long to let him go because of his good second nap.  hmmmm.
I picked up Heinz carrots at the store and fresh avocado, sweet potato, butternut squash, potato, pears and apples.  I'm going to busy the next few days boiling, pureeing and freezing!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 24, 2005, 19:58:16 pm
judy just a quick note, dh is going to italy and NOT taking you!!! WTF, or is it a business trip!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 24, 2005, 19:59:53 pm
Andrea - toooooooo cute

Micky - I missed you last post :oops: I love the pumpkin - whata sweetheart!

Karen - Sophie is on the same page with food as Sam!

Judy - You are amazing to be doing so well with the 4 girls - I would lock myself in a closet!!!!

I wasn;t going to dress Sophie up but seeing how adorable all your lo's are i am reconsidering.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 24, 2005, 20:32:47 pm
Sorry - I am not very organized with my posts...

OMG Kate how scary is that - my stomach did a flip when I read that - good thing your DH is a hero!!  Poor guy - hope he feels better soon....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 24, 2005, 20:48:30 pm
Hello Karen, Judy, Kate
Thanks Naomi
Richelle - Happy Six Months Sophie
Traci - thanks for your number and pm, I emailed you as well.
So I'm gonna start with the second book, but quick quesion, say your lo sleeps passed the 2 hour mark, do you wake them, or let them sleep.  LOL no that I have that problem yet, but ya never know one day right.... :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 24, 2005, 20:53:32 pm
Wow, 3 pages of reading to catch up on!

I too wouldn't worry about 12hrs night sleep without feeding - we've had it a few times and I dream of them again... :wink:

Karen, yes I was talking about the plunket/watties guide - I think strawberries are a possible allergy food so I think I waited until Nathan was 12mths old before giving them to him (well it was probably longer since it was winter at that time).  I do remember wondering why it wasn't mentioned on the list though.  I also used the BW weaning guide, of course it doesn't cover all foods thoough.  There is a really good website called http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com that I found useful with Nathan.  Oh and no I've never received any info saying not to homemake carrots.  :?

Judy, I'm not surprised your dark side came out - I'm don't know how you do it, I feel bad when mine shows which fortunately isn't all that often lately thank goodness.  Probably helps that Nathan's been going to pre-school 2 mornings a week.  Mind you I'm less tolerant when he's been up screaming in the night 10+ times and it's him and not Danielle making me tired.  :twisted:

Loving all the Halloween pics everyone!  We don't really get into it in a big way like that over here.

Kate, what a guy your hubby is, glad they're both safe.

Naomi, good luck in getting that job.

Well I only muddled through with the 1st BW book, it was quite vague but gives a lot more background info and I found it a really good read.  I haven't got out my BWSAYP one for ages, probably need to have a wee look again soon.

OK, off to do some housework while Danielle naps - maybe she'll do a 1.5hr one this morning.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 24, 2005, 21:56:54 pm
Where to start....photos, ohhh they're all so cute. I wish we could have a reason to dress up here. Halloween just isn't really done here, although if I recall correctly last year a group of airforce base kids all turned up on the doorstep. Note to myself to get some treats!

Kate, glad all is okay after the fall. That must have been so scary, good on DH for saving Ryan.

Naomi, as someone else mentioned, the longer the interview the better (usually) so that's positive. And if it didn't work out, it's good practice for the next one!

Holly, I'm definitely with the other girls in getting the routine working. You won't know yourself when you do. This site is fabulous for support, I found the sleep section really good, even just reading other peoples problems you often find solutions to your own.

Karen, I've got the plunket/watties sheet Nikki is talking about. It's quite colourful, A4 size, has a list of foods and at what ages they can have each thing. I've just put it up on my fridge and feel more confident already about foods. Now, I just wish Daniel would eat!!!! Grrrrr  :cry:

We've had another batttle thismorning with food and sleep. After 3 hours awake time, I had to give him another b/feed to get him to go to sleep. He did go into his cot awake at least. I think it's been since he's off his food that he hasn't gone down for his morning nap. I'm wondering if it's cos he's still hungry, but he doesn't want his solids. I ended up ringing Plunket thismorning and she's said to skip breakfast, just give him his b/milk, then give him lunch before b/milk then for dinner do b/milk first again then solids, and finally b/milk before bed. So I'll try that for a couple of days. She also suggested putting Daniel in the h/chair for play time too, not just eating, so he has fun in it again. With toys, watching me etc. So, I"ll try that too.

Just when everything was going soooo well it's got all mucked up.  :cry:

My good news is Daniel slept thru again from 6.30 - 5.30am. I do have to feed him then as he screams the house down if I don't go to him and feed. If he makes it until 6.30am I'd be willing to start our day then, even 6am I'd consider it. I'm just scared if I start his day then, he'll always be that early, and that's not what I want. But if I keep putting him back to bed and waking him at 7am then hopefully oneday that will be when he wakes. What do you girls think? If I get him up at 6am is that going to set his clock for good?

Well, now he's asleep I better go do some things.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 24, 2005, 22:15:15 pm
I back again, it is so great to have internet back I can't stay away, also taking the day off....

Hayley, I don't mind that Sophie gets up at 6 or 630 but I get up for work at 430 so I have never tried to get her to sleep longer.

Well, I have fed Sophie tomato, orange, papaya, mango, strawberries and was about to try yogurt (yo baby brand) bad mommy???? :oops: She hasn't complained maybe I was just lucky?  You are right that there is alot of conflicting info out there...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 22:20:44 pm
Hayley,
just a quick note, not sure whether getting him up at 6 will make that a set wake up time.  I think 12.5 hours for night sleep might be asking a lot though.   You certainly can't blame him for being hungry at 5:30 when he wakes.  How often has he slept through like that?  maybe his body is still adjusting and he might go a touch longer once he's back on his solids.

richelle-i believe papaya and mango are okay.  but citrus and strawberries are apparently a no no.  That's great that she's been okay...but I'm not sure you if you should continue to feed them to her as I believe they are an allergy risk.  someone please correct me if i'm wrong.

Holly-2 hour naps are more typical of 4-5 month olds but your lo is likely overtired so you might encounter one. I wouldn't let him go too much longer. When you're focussing on setting up the new routine though Tracy says to wake them when it's time to feed.  You also wouldn't want an afternoon nap running too late and interfering with his bedtime.  HTH
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 24, 2005, 22:30:18 pm
Kate!! Wow - I missed your story as I was posting as you were.  Yikes.  Good for you for staying calm.  Phew!!

{b]Naomi[/b] Yes dh is going away on business.  There'd be NO WAY I'd sit by quietly if he actually attempted to go away for pleasure on his own right now. nope, nada, don't think so, not gonna happen, no WAY!!  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 24, 2005, 22:46:42 pm
anyone up for a chat?  DH is working late and i'm free for the next two hours!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 24, 2005, 23:50:41 pm
haha, you know I am always up for a chat!!!!
Let me know ladies, I can't be too late tho, hardly slept last night
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 00:00:27 am
i'm there now...just let me grab my tea!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 25, 2005, 00:08:57 am
Hello all!

Bec... Arwyn doesn't do a head tilt but she has this habit of looking down when I carry her so it looks very funny because it seems like she is just watching the ground go by (well, she is) and people comment on it all the time!

Naomi... good luck with the job!

Judy... UGH! A business trip without you to ITALY? Bummer you couldn't join him.  :cry: I really tip my hat off to you, I don't know how you manage with your crew of 4. I, for the first time in a long time, managed to have dinner ready when DH arrived home today. And, it is not fully ready, he is finishing it as I post!

Andrea... cute ears! Wow, Taylor is very tall! Arwyn is in the 97th percentile and we all wonder where she gets the tall genes from. I am 5' 0" and DH is 5' 7" so... :?:

Kate... I am so glad Ryan is okay and I hope your DH recovers from his bumps and bruises. He needs extra hugs and kisses I'm sure :wink:  and you have the CUTEST monkey ever!

Lisa... hope James is doing okay with cutting his 3rd tooth!

Richelle... glad to have you back after Wilma cut you off. So happy that you guys are okay. I know you resigned... how are you feeling about it?
I ditto Traci on the citrus and berries and would wait until 12 months. I was also told the same thing about tomatoes (does anybody else know?)

Traci... I LOVE SHOPPING! I only wish I could go and buy stuff I would like to wear right now instead of waiting for these extra pounds to go away! Funny that Holly is the woman you were talking to, eh?

Nikki... Congrats on the weight loss!

Hayley... Arwyn is going through a solids strike. It is hit and miss whether she will take them or not. Today she did but the past week was a nightmare getting her to eat. She loves her finger foods (Cheerios) and I thought at first it was texture but ???

I am concerned about Arwyn being shy around strangers too. I don't really want a clingy baby as she isn't one right now and has kinda spoiled me for that.

Erin... Katie can bear crawl?? Congrats! Arwyn is dying to move... she gets onto all fours and rocks like crazy but can't move forwards. She is starting to move backwards and this p!$$es her off!

Karen... good luck with going back to work on Monday! Bring a picture to put on your desk  :)

Micky... CUTE "Jack"-o-Lantern! :D

Holly... how has the day been?

To everybody else... hope the days are going well and looking forward to hearing about all your los' adventures!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 25, 2005, 00:40:44 am
HI   LADIES,

 This new poster is still around!  The weathers been great so we/ve been outside a lot.  Any hockey fans out there?  I really didn't miss it while it was gone but it sure is fun to have  people come over to watch the games. :D

I still need to catch up on all these posts and take notes so I can remember who's said what!  It's a good reason to hand off Sol to DH as soon as he walks in the door.
to be cont...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 25, 2005, 00:53:17 am
Roz, when you hit reply to post, scroll down the page further and you will see all ours replies underneath...

I'm envious of you gals having Cherios...I wonder what we can offer as an alternative, are they anything like pretzels?  They're just a soft cereal type thing right?  What is the sugar content in them, we have some things called nutri-grain but I'm sure that's loaded with sugar.  Oh well, back to the crackers (I'd better find some wheat free ones though with Nathan now being wheat allergic, it's likely Danielle will be too).

Wow to all those babies on the move - who elses bubs still have their tummies firmly planted on the floor?  D's trying to lift her butt slightly and goes backwards a little, but she's really content to just lie there on her tummy propped up by her hands.

Right, I managed to do an exercise workout with Nathan STILL romping around his room, grrrr, I hate it on days he takes ages to sleep cause then we're confined to the house in the afternoon and it's such a gorgeous day out there.  And DH isn't going to be home to help tonight so I can see there'll be meltdowns from one or other of them LOL.  At least D is having a nice big sleep.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 01:10:41 am
Nikki-I know you can scroll down to see the posts...but you can only see so many, right?  like one page worth?  or do you know how to see several pages?  i can't figure it out :?:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on October 25, 2005, 01:22:51 am
Hey girls!  Still here.  DH is back! :D  :D  and we made it through the weekend!  Last night we were so tired, (he from his trip and me from not sleeping well) that we went to bed at 8:45 :shock: !   Sometimes he drives me crazy, but its great to have him back.

Welcome Holly!  You've gotten great advise.  It is hard to implement BW, but its totally worth it. 

Nikki- Claire isn't mobile yet either.  She just figured out rolling about 3 weeks ago :? .  So I'm not holding my breath for crawling.  She's really grabbing at things though and gets frustrated when they're out of her reach.

Judy - You are an amazing woman, I can't get things done around here with 1.  Can't even imagine 4.  My grandmother had 16 :shock: .(We're Irish Catholics  :wink: )  She's so funny though.  When I call and ask her for advise, she says, "Oh hunny, I don't even remember!" I think she was in survival mode raising all those children!

Kate- Good save on DH's part!  Your hero!

Traci - Soooo jealous about the shopping and Cole sleeping through :wink: Congratulations!

Oops gotta run!  Love the costumes!  Claire is going to be a bee.  I ordered her costume from Babystyle.  She looks sooo cute.  Can anybody help me with posting pictures???  Sorry, I'm pretty computer illiterate :oops:   Do I click on attachment?

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on October 25, 2005, 01:37:58 am
Hello everyone :D
Nikki- Sienna is still firmly planted on that tummy--on her back she does what looks like buttock exercises-raising her hips up and down very funny to see but gets her absolutely no where- Must say I am slightly anxious about seeing her start rolling properly and making a little more effort!
She seems perfectly content to just watch the world go by at the moment.
 She has accomplished eating without too much fuss!! What an appetite-hardly trys to mush it just swallows and opens for more :lol:
I was wondering what Nathan's condition was exactly--?You mentioned he had been diagnosed with something(can't recall the spelling) a few posts ago...sorry if you have explained this already and I have missed it.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 25, 2005, 02:07:28 am
I missed the post about children being shy around strangers...  I've got FOUR like that!!  I was very excited as the other day one of my friend's SIL's stopped in to drop something off for her, my girls had never seen her before and she asked Zoe what her name was and Zoe actually answered her  :shock:  and then proceeded to tell her all her sisters names.  WOW!  That's a big step for her.  Now, had it been a guy she would have run and hid under a table somewhere (seriously!).  If we actually do get out and anyone talks to Kaia or Hannah - oh gosh look out.  Heck MIL was here last week and spoke to Hannah and the tears just started rolling.  I calmed her down, put her down again and a few minutes later MIL talked to her again - more tears!  I finally said "ok Grandma you've caused enough tears today!!"  all in a joking way of course.

These girls are SO touchy that they were beside themselves outside today.  We were only out about 10min max (long enough to get the mail) - not sure what upset them so much -either the fact it was raining (although they weren't getting wet) OR the fact I just put those cuddle bags in their carseats which would have been new to them?    In fact I think it was Nancy who said something about IL's child not being on a routine and being really fussy at family gatherings.  That is SO my girls!!  And they ARE on a routine.  Basically if we go to a family event I just have to nurse them when we get there regardless of when their next feed is - it's the ONLY way to calm them down. (and get other people to back off at the same time)

As for crawling - nope, not here.  The girls scootch up to a "V" shape and then stretch back out and do make some ground this way but no huge attempt at actual crawling.  Not sure they get much chance as usually when they are on the floor Zoe and Sarah are immediately there lying beside them both so there's no room to do anything.  OR they swoop down and start forcing them to roll over this way and that way  :roll:   So they spend more time in the exersaucers where they're safe.  Kaia LOVES to jump in the saucer though!  Man that girl could get big air in the jolly jumper - just not sure how safe an idea that is with two big sisters around to push it around like it's a bunjee cord. (wow - see how quickly we forget - I'm just realizing that it wasn't all that long ago I couldn't even put these girls down at all as all they wanted was to be carried!  I'm SO thankful for those saucers!!)

They aren't sitting on their own yet either but they are getting a bit more balance slowly.  They're definitely behind what Zoe and Sarah were doing at this age.  Sarah crawled long by now and Zoe just after six months.

Well I think I'm going to scoot off to bed soon.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 25, 2005, 02:11:10 am
Traci when you scroll to the very bottom of the posts, just after the last one, at the bottom right of the screen you should see page numbers...the page you are on is likely black and if there is more pages in blue to the right of that (also look for the option of 'next') then there's more pages.

Nikki  wow - no cheerios there?  Too bad.  Not like pretzels I wouldn't say.  Hmmmmm - one of the baby food companies makes a 'nutrios' toddler cereal that's basically the same thing.  There is sugar in it but you can't taste the sugar (less than 1g per serving the box says)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 25, 2005, 02:51:28 am
ok, deep breath, where are we at?

Nikki - no crawling or moving in this household. Daniel is just starting to lift his butt off the floor to reach for things though. Ofcourse, this sometimes now ends in tears as he face plants. Especially if he's on the kitchen floor and not only does he face plant (ouch) but the cat that he was trying to reach runs away!  :evil: How dare the cat move!  :D

Judy - how funny about what you said to your MIL. Lucky she knew how to take it.

Oh no, I've just got Daniel out of bed, put him in the JJ and he's crying! It must be teeth, surely! I guess I better cut this short and go see my boy.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 03:02:27 am
hey judy...i see the page numbers when i'm reading the regular thread...but don't see them when i'm posting a reply.  do you still see them when you're replying :?:  :?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 25, 2005, 03:15:32 am
OK ladies, watch out...this is going to be long!!!  You have all been soooo busy.  I took notes.  DH stayed home from work today, which was nice in a way but I definately don't get as much me time when he is home.  Makes me wonder how I am going to get any me time when I am back to work...
Speaking of back to work...

Karen  Big Hugs for going back to work Monday...full time?  You'll do great.  I can't wait to hear how it goes.  I start back in Dec.

Kate...hysterical halloween pics! Although, I actually feel a little sick to my stomach now that I ahve a child when I see other children crying... anyone have that?  I can't believe the stair story and yes you have now definately met your accident quota for quite some time I would guess.

Erin- welcome back adorable pics of Katie...I had to laugh when I read about eating ice cream every night as I was reading while eating ice cream..a bad habit from pregnancy that just doesn't want to go away!

Holly- welcome! Keep coming back ! (sounds like an AA meeting
 :D ) This is the best place to be!  I think it is so funny that you and Traci met. 

Micky-love you little Jack-o lantern. So cute...btw did I ever mention that I wanted to name SOphie Jack if she was a boy..but there was one little problem, our last name is Hoff.  Say a few times to yourself and you will understand why we couldn't do that!

Traci- Congrats for the shopping trip.  I did that a few weeks back. So much fun!  My sister visited and helped me clean the bad ju-ju's out of my closet so that I could make room for new things.  It was sort of fun to virtual shop with you :) On the ceral thing.  I can't remeber who said it but when Sophie started eating a lot more I just started adding fruits and veg. also...I think cereal can be a little constipating?  So I didn't want to feed too much. Congrats on COle seelping through.  That is too weird because Sophie had one of her best night's sleep after being lugged around with dh while I went on that shopping trip..hmmm

Andrea. Love the pictures.  T looks so much like your dh.  Sophie looks like mine too.  That was a funny story about dh and forgetting the bottle.  I mean really :lol:   :roll:

Hayley- Sophie has had a few days here and there of being down on solids.  I figure it must be discomfort....teething or whatever.  I guess as long is it's not affecting his sleep, I wouldn't worry too much. (although I have worried quite a bit) they must be getting what they need, and anyway you really can't force them to eat so, what to do?

Bec--Sophie totally does the puppy head-cock thing!! It cracks me up.  She has also started bobbling her head for dh when he goes "Coo-coo"  great huh? :roll:  :lol:

Ankie- Sophie is moving backwards and fast!  She does seem a little annoyed that she cna't go forward yet. 

Richelle, happy 6 mo. to Sophie and congrats for being through the storm and back on line!

Naomi- sorry I missed the chat. I went to the chat room and saw the goodbyes of your chat...but thought you were still there, duh! So I was all happily typing my hello when I realized that you had all left, sigh...oh well, I'll catch up with you next time...btw, it WOULD be a little easier if you lived out west...get on it hunny  :)  Congrats about the interview!!! Sounds like it went well.

I missed you all today.  It feels good to catch up.  I absolutely love the pics...it makes my imaginary friends seem a little more real.  And the babes are just too cute. Maybe I'll post one of Sophie tomorrow.
We have had a few more crazy days.  I'll tell more about them later.  Always a little off when dh is home.  I think she had a little cold too, but seems better today.  Bumbped her head on the table leg while plaing with dh.  She cried really hard!...poor kid.  No blood though, thank goodness.  I did however try to tear her away from dh afterwards to comfort her...he held his ground thank goodness...it doesn't always have to be me :)
BTW, carck up about the hubbies and housework stuff, Ankie adn Naomi and anyone else I don't remember.  We have had the same talks around her...
Take care my dears.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 25, 2005, 04:18:13 am
hi all!!

Today I ventured out twice!! :shock:  :lol:   We went to the mall and to Gap Kids/Baby was trying to find some cute stuff for my sis and her LO (due in Feb) but while we were there a mom was making her little boy try on shoes.  He was NOT happy!  Big tears, screaming, etc....he was probably only 2 or 3.  I felt so sad for him because he just wasn't in the mood today to do it and mom seemed oblivious to him being hysterical.  Poor Jack threw in a few sympathy tears for him but we left shortly after that because it was torture for both Jack and me to listen to that little boy cry SOOOO hard!  :(  :shock:   So yes Hannah it makes me ill to hear another kid/baby cry so hard and not be heard!  I think before kids I was probably oblivious to that sort of thing or may have even commented in my head "whoa, get control of that kid!" or some other un-sympathetic statement!! :shock:  :?  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 04:50:43 am
OK, ladies...I'm not sure what happened to my Avatar. I tried to change it and ended up deleting it completely! I'll have to figure it out later.

Wow...1 day and 6 pages later. I tried to catch up, but ended up skimming a lot. Anyway...here goes:

Welcome Holly! I echo everything that has been said about schedule and which books to read.

Traci--good for you on the new clothes! I'm hoping to do the same, but keep hoping to lose a few more pounds. It's not coming off as quickly as I'd hoped...anyone else having that problem?

Andrea--beautiful family picture

Micky--yes, I'm the editor, and I tolerate your typing.  :lol: J/K

Kate--how scary about the fall. Good for you for remaining calm

Everyone else--great pics! I need to get DH to help me post some. You'd think being married to a computer guy, some of that technology-savvy would wear off!

Well, off to bed...talk to you all tomorrow!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 05:25:18 am
Hey Ladies,

Today I had a minor surgery performed on 4 of my toes for ingrown toenails (gross, I  know  :roll: ), so am not up to snuff.  Should be better in a few days though.  Gotta get them elevated soon though so they don't get swolen, so can't write long.

Kate-OMG, what a hero your DH is!!!  And way to go on keeping your cool.  Just goes to show the spirit/intuition of a woman and mama :wink:   So glad to hear Ryan is AOK!

Judy-give yourself a break...you are a saint!  It is perfectly normal to lose your cool now and then, in fact if you didn't I'd think you were a robot! :lol:  :wink:   BTW, my parents were over tonight and I was showing them the site and all my "imaginary friends" and I pointed you and your lovely family out to them!
Karen-good luck on going back next week.  We are here for you for support!

Hayley-yeah for Daniel sleeping through!  I would suggest to just keep pluggig away at teh later wake up time...but it may just end up being his body clock.

Traci-you told Holly something I found interesting...you said 2 hour naps are typical more for 4-5 month olds.   :?:   Where did you hear that?  I ask because Taylor has only had a few 2 hour naps in the last month or so, so it would be refreshing to know that it is normal, and not a glitch in the routine.  Please let me know your thoughts...

Micky-yeah for getting out!

Hannah-glad Sophie wasn't too worse for the ware after her fight with the coffee table!

Nicki-way to go on losing the weight!  I was doing well, jogging again for about a month but then lost motivation! :roll:   Gotta get it back after the toes heal.

Taylor scooched across the floor a little today!  Not quite a crawl, but defintiely the first attempts at one.

Gotta go put my feet up.  Have a great night ladies!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 25, 2005, 05:38:53 am
Hi Everyone,

I did it again :twisted:  - I typed out a really long post and then I pressed my backspace key and lost it :evil:

I basically said everything that Hannah said to everyone  :lol: (I think) Especially the part about all the cute pics - I love the pics  :D  :D Hannah that "coo coo :lol:  thing is a crack up. :lol: 

Kate - scary about the fall. It's great that you stayed calm because I think you end up scaring them more if you make a big deal of things (does that even make sense)

Carrots - I have been giving Halle carrots for a few days now with no problems. I cook them myself and in fact I got the 'recipe' from a baby care book. They were in the "first foods" section along with Rice, pumpkin, apple, pear etc....Also I cooked up a peach for her yesterday and she woofed it down 8) Still can't get her to drink any water so I mixed up the rice cereal with prune juice - It looked and smelled disgusting but she ate it :?

Crawling - not crawling yet, not even looking like it.

Sleeping - The last 6 (yes 6) nights Halle has slept straight through - I'm talking  6.30/7.00 to 5.30/6.00  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: I still can't believe it myself. She has only ever 'slept through' a handfull of times. I would hate to think what  I would be doing without this BW stuff  :D Naps are still another story but hey I can't have everything :wink: I am feeling confident enough to go camping this weekend YAY!!! It finally feels as if I am getting the hang of being a mum :)

Better go as she has just woken up from one of her non-naps :roll:  :roll:

Take care everyone

Bec
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 25, 2005, 07:07:47 am
Andrea, wow, youch, take care of your feet. Make sure you keep them up and let Taylor run around after you.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: okay, so maybe she's a little young, but in a few years time maybe......

Bec, yay for Halle sleeping thru. Isn't it a great feeling. Are you still doing what I'm doing, and waking when you expect Halle to wake and you find she doesn't. Are you starting your day if she wakes at 5.30am or putting her back to bed?

Micky, isn't it sweet how when our bubs hear another one crying they start. It's like they know what's going on and they're sad too  :cry: At least you made Jack happy again.

Hannah and others who have commented about the eating (or lack of) - thank you for your reassurance. My best friend said the same thing, not to worry, but it's great having a few others say the same. I gave Daniel some pain meds today and he suddenly gobbled up some food. It's like he knew the medicine would make him feel better and so took some pumpkin and carrot. Then again at dinner time too. So I'm a little relieved. I bought some natural teething powder too and managed to get that in (not as easy as bonjela to administer though) and I think he seemed a little happier too. Hopefully this means he may keep eating and even get a tooth thru soon.

Anyway, need to send some photos off to the family about what Daniel's been up to, I may even get one up here!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 25, 2005, 07:38:18 am
Okay, so here's a photo of Daniel in the weekend. It was sooo lovely I wanted to be outside gardening so we brought him out too. Mostly he was under the sun umbrella, just a few moments where he was in the sun and I was a bad mummy!  :oops:

I think we'll have to buy one of those paddling pools with a roof over for summer.

Oh, and while I'm here, I found a great way of feeding Daniel and keeping him in one place while he doesn't like the high chair!  :lol: Okay, so he doesn't look too happy, but you know the problems I've been having..... he did eat all his lunch that day would you believe.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 25, 2005, 08:05:15 am
LOL Hayley!  We got one of those shaded paddling pools from the Warehouse a few weeks ago, we missed out last summer on ANY pools from everywhere, they had all sold out by the time January came around and we really needed it.  I have to remember to keep hats handy for my kids too.

Bec, yay for the overnight sleeps!  :D

Andrea, oh, poor toes, hope you have a speedy recovery.

Well I coped without DH here to help out with the bedtime madness, I managed to get Nathan in bed by 6.20pm since he missed his nap today and had no mucking around, he must have been tired.  Danielle was starting to lose the plot, but fortunately a feed calmed her down and she was in bed too by 6.45.  I think we're making some headway with Nathan's night wakings - I've been telling him to cuddle his dog and blankie if he wakes up and so far 3 nights in a row he's woken, called out once and gone back to sleep - hmm, maybe we're onto something there.

Bianca, Nathan likely has Celiac disease (to be confirmed tomorrow at the docs), it's a gluten intolerance/allergy - so found in wheat, oats etc - bread, pasta.  But I think he'll need a biopsy to properly confirm it, not too sure yet, so will know more tomorrow.

Right, off to watch the end of Without a Trace and off to bed.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 25, 2005, 12:29:14 pm
Traci - sorry I didn't realize you meant 'while posting'.  Nope I don't see anything of the thread while I'm typing my post - just after I've posted is all.

Haley that's hillarious!!  I love the pic.

Andrea hope your toes feel better soon!  Sounds painful.  :cry:

Sorry I gotta cut this short - Zoe and Sarah are finishing up Dora right now and in about 1 minute some show called Charlie and Lola is going to start and I HATE that show. (never seen it actually but I hate the look of the scruffy characters) so I've got to swoop in and shut down the tv.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 25, 2005, 12:49:15 pm
Hello Ladies,

Sophie had another 'nutty' night.  I do not know how she sleeps through all of her 'carousing' in her crib?  I kept checking on her, at one point she had the crib bumper pulled off and stuck under her butt and one of her hands poking through the crib rail?  DH says he doesn't know how I sleep through all of my thrashing/talking :oops:  inmy sleep.  I was also talking to my mom and she said I was the same as a baby/kid I guess I used to fall out of bed all the time :shock: Jeez mom, ever heard of bed rails?? :lol:

Nikki - I meant to post about Celiac as our uncle has it and I was sort of amazed at all the gluten free products available.  They came to visit after Sophie was born and I thought it would be harder than it was to cook for him.  Not that it is easy but he also said there is alot more awareness about it now.  He was diagnosed with it at age 53 :shock: poor guy never knew what was wrong with him and he wasa always skin and bones, he has now put on 40 pounds and has never been happier.  Good thing they are catching it now for Nathan.

Karen - Good luck going back to work!  I went back 2 months ago and have now resigned :shock: so if you need to chat or some advice I am here.  BTW what are you doing for childcare?  We have the best nanny I am so sad to lose her.... :(


Judy - We went the other night to a Philipino Pig roast in the 'inner' part of the island(the not so nice area) for our nanny's b'day, it was very interesting to say the least.  They had all sorts of crazy outdoor disco lights and loud music, well they love babies - and Sophie was passed around and bounced around for a good hour.  She started out doing the 'cowardly lion' (that's what we call her lower lip quiver) but I left it alone and she soon was having a blast laughing and screaming :shock: I have never seen her so hyper.  Point being that she usually takes some time to get used to neww people but I leave her to it, bad mommy!!
Probably more reason why she reaches for the nanny when i am holding her :cry:

I forgot who was asking about weight but I am struggling - I have never had trouble dropping weight but I am now.  I quit smoking when I got Prego and I started eating carbs (2 things i am not going to change back!!) I think 2 of the main things that led to my pregnancy weight gain.  It has finally started to cool down here so I have no excuse to not get out and get some exercise!!

Wow, long post!  I'll stop here for now...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 12:57:10 pm
Hayley!  that is absolutely priceless in the box!  Glad he's eating again.  Can I just mention something about the exersaucer.  Mine has a warning not to let them stand flat footed.  Not sure why...maybe because they could launch themselves out?  I see Daniel has a foot flat, but maybe it has to be both feet.  Anyone else know why this warning is there?

Andrea-as for the two hour naps.  Maybe I shouldn't have made a blanket statement like that, but I was just concluding that since 6 month olds should have 2.25 hours total day sleep (approx) over two naps then it is unlikely they would sleep for 2 hours IYKWIM?  Obviously it might happen on occasion when they had poor night sleep or skipped a nap or whatever.  so, it was just me blowing hot air I guess :?
As for your toes, YIKES, get those feet up and rest.  OUCHY. Funny, now I no longer picture you as a glamourous buyer for a fancy store but just a regular mommy with icky toes LOL :P

Bec-that's awesome on the night sleep!

We had carrots today.  Just a tablespoon.  How much are you supposed to give when you introduce a new food?  I just played it safe.  I got the jarred ones as I wasn't sure since there is debate over the whole carrot issue.  He woke at 5 today :(  we had one full night!  5 is better than 1:30 though.  I fed one boob, put him back down and he was up for the day at 5:45.  I'll have to see what happens tomorrow...hope it doesn't become a habit.
Now that I think of it, the night he slept through I fed him when he got up from catnap at 4:45 (because he ate very little at 2pm), then did cereal at 5:30, then more milk at 6:00 or so.  I wonder if I kind of tanked him up???  Maybe I'll try it again today and see what happens.

off to have my coffee.  nearing the 45 min. mark and hoping he sleeps an hour or so.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 13:04:53 pm
Oh and I meant to send a shout out to Naomi to brace yourself hon...130 km winds headed your way. 

Also, Naomi, Ankie and I chatted last night and we thought Sunday or Monday would be a good day for our chat.  Sunday because then our DHs could watch the babes.  Anyway, put in your votes.  Once we've got the date then we'll work on time or maybe post your suggested time with your preferred day.

We're all over the map for time zones so hopefully we can find something that works...another reason sunday might be good.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 25, 2005, 13:11:10 pm
LOL Hayley - feeding in the box, very cute and hey whatever works!

Traci I just read your post and looked over and Sophie has grown enought to be flat footed in her exersaucer!  I wonder too why that is?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 13:18:25 pm
richelle-can you raise the supports?  Cole is on the second notch and there is one more to go.  maybe it has something to do with their leg development?  i suspect it has more to do with them being able to get out easier if that's the case.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 14:51:15 pm
Hayley--too funny about the picture! I guess if it works, go for it! LOL

Richelle--I was the one asking about losing weight. I have struggled with my weight since jr. high. I lost 40 pounds after college, then got sick and put about 15 back on. I was hoping to lose it before I got pregnant, but that didn't happen. I still have about 12 pounds too lose of my pregnancy weight, plus the 15 I wanted to lose before. Even though I've done it before, it seems to be so much harder now!! I don't know if it's the fact that I'm getting older (now in my 30s as opposed to 20s when I lost it before) or what my body went through with pregnancy.

Well, still working on the Avatar thing, ladies...sometimes I'm a little slow. And I haven't had a chance to ask DH for help yet. So bear with me!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 14:51:53 pm
OK, don't know how it happened, but my old Avatar came back!! I still need to update it, but one thing at a time.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 14:52:29 pm
Oops...now it's gone. Weird.

And I'll stop posting now.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 25, 2005, 15:05:53 pm
Judy - I was reading my post just now and real;ized I sounded a bit bossy or insensitive.  I was not trying to say you should leave your girls to cry with strangers or that anything is wrong with them being shy :oops: , I think it is sweet!  Just telling a story of Sophie with strangers......
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 25, 2005, 15:42:17 pm
Traci hmmm - I wonder why they have that warning on your exersaucer.  I looked at the info that came with mine (Leap Pad Learn & Groove) and it doesn't say anything about adjusting the height.  AND there's a picture of a boy playing in it and his feet are both flat. ???

Both K&H are able to have their feet flat... Kaia really jumps in it too!   :D

Richelle I didn't think your post sounded bossy at all - just telling how things go for you.  I think it's great that Sophie calms down and has a hoot with everyone!! :)  I'm a real protective mama bear I guess - if my girls cry for me then I never refuse that - I know my mom and MIL try to leave the room hoping to distract them... I give them the chance but if it doesn't work I go right over within minutes and get them - mom and MIL don't like it but tough.  I just say "oh are you looking for a bit of mom time?"  Maybe I am making them more cautious - not sure.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 25, 2005, 15:49:01 pm
hi all!!

Hayley!!  That picture cracked me up!! :D  :lol:   Very inovative! :)

Bec: I'm impressed that you are going camping!!  Are you going to be in a tent or a trailer??  I'm very curious because DH and I love to camp but I am too chicken (Jack being ulta touchy!!)

I realized this morning that Jackson had never seen his bedroom from the floor point of view so I thought that I would plop him down while I got a diaper ready.  Well, he started getting the bottom lip quiver going until he saw where I was standing then he just looked completely concerned!!  Like "Where the heck am I" look! :shock:  :lol:   

Andrea: YOUCH!!  I hope you are feeling better soon!

My vote for the chat is Sunday.  None of my closet shows are on that night!  :lol:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 25, 2005, 16:00:13 pm
Hi everyone - lots to say!
Bec - Yay for the night sleep  :D  and enjoy your camping.  We left Katie for one night with my parents in the beginning of September to go to a wedding.  It was probably way more traumatic for me than her, but she did fine.  It was very hard for me (especially as the night wore on and I continued drinking with my college friends...) but eventually my mom said -- she's fine, don't worry about it, don't call us until tomorrow, have fun -- she could probably tell I was "enjoying" myself  :oops:  - nine months of pregnancy + 7 months of breastfeeding = very little alcohol!

Andrea - Hope those feet feel better!

Naomi - fingers crossed for the job!

Micky - Hooray for getting out - and I hate seeing little ones crying too when I'm out - when we flew back from Puerto Rico, there was a tiny baby in the front of the plane who cried for the first 45 min or so - poor LO, probably had no idea what was going on, poor parents too!

Hayley - LOVE the pic!

Judy - I was reading your posts about how touchy your girls are and thinking about how great it is that they'll always have each other to related to - I bet that will help them in the long run.  Wow, do you have your hands full though.

Karen - good luck going back to work!...we'll be here for support.

Richelle - Congrats on not going back to smoking - DH is working on that too, not an easy thing.  It seems to be much harder to find time to exercise now - I used to just go to the gym every day and now I've got Katie to contend with. 

Traci - My Exersaucer has the same warning - I think it has to do with them launching themselves out or climbing out - however, Katie is already somewhat flat footed and we're on the last notch and I don't see any signs of her flying out, so I'm not going to worry about it.  I wonder if that's the kind of thing that one kid did once and now they have to put the warning on all of them...

As for us, we're having a strange morning.  DH got up early and accidentally work Katie up (his clothes are in her room, so there's not much to do about that), so he brought her back to our room and put her in bed with me  :oops:  and she and I fell asleep...until 9:30  :shock:  :shock:  she must have been tired!  And the she went down for a nap again at 11:15.  Maybe she's finally catching up on her sleep from our vacation.  I think she just likes to snuggle in bed though.  I won't bring her there unless it's technically "morning" - as in after about 6:30 or so and she's upset and still needs to sleep, but wow is it tempting to do it whenever she's up in the middle of the night - I know I'd regret it later though...
Anyway, enough rambling from me - here's our Halloween preview.  Sunday is better for me than Monday for chat, but either should be ok as long as it's after 8 on the east coast.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 25, 2005, 16:18:21 pm
erin: totally cute octopus!!  LOL!

Is anyone else having issues with their skin??  My skin is so out of whack!  Even when I was a teenager I didn't have zits like I've got now! GROSS!

I feel like a total geek but I'm all excited that I made friends with my neighbor.  She's got a new LO (5 weeks old).  I'm the "experienced" mom now!!   :shock:  LOL!!  Isn't that a joke!  It's going to be nice here today so I've made a "date" with her to go for a walk to a coffee shop near by.  YEAH!  How exciting!  How can you tell I need more adult interaction??   :shock:  :?  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 25, 2005, 16:31:09 pm
Wow you girls move fast on this board...lol

So I read a bit of Tracy's new book, and found out what all of you probably already know of me when I posted my story, (Ive been accidental parenting) I guess.  We had the worst night ever last night, I'm at my wits end.  Near Breakdown.  We tried our first night of a routine, Brady went to bed at 7pm, but fell asleep while feeding....so one mistake there i guess, then he work at 10pm....I did p/c-p/d for about 2 hours, wow so tiring, that's for sure....he'd cry, I'd try and soothe him, p/u p/d, he'd cry again....over and over.  At about midnight, I thought maybe he was hungry, cause he didn't have a df, so I nursed him.....he fell asleep at the breast.....another mistake I did., and then in a nut shell, our night was the same.  He was up most all night, and crying.  When I picked Brady up, he's arch his back or fight me and in the book it says to put them back down, so I kept doing this.   Needless to say, really bad night.  I need help so badly......Nervous breakdown coming....sorry for the long vent...I'm feeling usless as a Mom right now.

Help :?  :shock:  :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 16:43:37 pm
Holly,

You probably just need to fine tune your technique.  I'll be calling you in a few minutes...just gotta eat my sandwich.  I'm hoping I can help...it's been a while since I've had to do full blown PU/PD.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 25, 2005, 16:47:14 pm
OMG micky, I can totally understand the interaction needs...why do you think I'm here all the time...now if one of you fine ladies could join me for a walk today and some coffee??

Hayley-I love the box picture.  Funny.

Erin- I have done the very same thing. dh loves to snuggle with Sophie in our bed.  Ironice since I always thought I would be the one who would want her in bed with us....anyhow, once in awhile I am sure it's fine, depending on the child of course...it doesn't seem to effect Sophie's ability to go back to her crib for sleeps.
The octopus is adorable!!!

Holly, hang in there, it WILL get easier.  Just keep trying.  I know how hard it is.  One thing I suggest is making a plan...like, what would you like for your nights to look like...and of course make it attainable, not the ultimate.  This way when you are up all night, you can look at your plan to help you remember what you wanted to do...if you stray, OK, no problem, but at least his eliminates the need to constantly be making decisions at odd hours of the morning/night.  HTH.  And remember one nap at a time, one night at a time, one feeding at a time.  This too shall pass.

I am impressed with you moms and your overnights away.  I have to try that.  I am so chicken.

OK, a few questions. For those of you who are bottle feeding, how many oz/ml do your lo's typically eat now adays (with solids)...I just do not know what is up with Sophie.  She went all night, 10-7 (after 10 df) with no feeds...thought she would be hungry as usual at 7, but only took 2oz!!
Yesterday we only did 4 feeds, dropped the 11o'clock because she just wasn't interested.  Any ideas???

Also, how much baby einstein do you let your lo's watch?  We have a few, baby monet is her fav...I have been letting her watch it like every day, but feeling a little guilty. :roll:  And other TV, do you, or you and dh watch tv when lo is in the room playing? Just curious.  I know I should probably really get a life and get over it, but I guess I just need some opinions...

Thanks for the puking support BTW
 :lol: I swear our carpet looks like a leopard's coat...white spots everywhere....not to mention all of my clothes etc.  I like the term "spiller" instead of puker.  I don't know tho...if she continues to not want to eat much, maybe we should try the meds???

Finally, what DO you do about the cleaning issues? We sort of work on the barter system here...cleaning/chores for sexual favors...as sick as that sounds...it kinda works. :oops:  But sure would like other suggestions.

Feel better Andrea.
Sunday is good for me for a chat...anytime really, I am so much earlier than most of you...whatever works. Monday works too, but later like around 7.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 17:03:48 pm
Hey Guys, thanks for the well wishes with my toes.  yes, Traci, hard to imagine me being glamorous with cut up toes! :lol:   So I was in some pain last night and took Tylenol PM to help me sleep, but still was up from 3-5:30 in some discomfort.  Finally fell back asleep only to be woken by Taylor at 6 am and she was HUNGRY!!!  So fed her and she fell right back to sleep, and then I completely slept through my alarm (remember I said I was setting my alarm to get her back on a consistent wake up time?).  SO I went in at 8:30 and she was happily playing in her crib, so who knows how long she had been up.  WHICH LEADS ME TO MY POINT...

I FEEL LIKE SUCH A LOSER LATELY!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
It seems like every other day for the last 2 weeks I have been doing something selfishly to get her off her routine.  For instance joining 2 different mommy and me groups, meeting up with the BW moms, taking her on the car trip a couple of weeks ago, etc.  The list goes on. 

Luckily she is so adaptable that she still is doing awesome at night, but could her naps be better, YES, and I know it is my fault.  And we have a play date scheduled with me nephews tomorrow, then another class on Thur.  So she will be going on and off routine for almost 3 weeks!!!  I guess I'm not really looking for any answers, just some reassurance that after this week I will be able to get her back into the swing of things and she won't be harmed too much.  Anyone else ever feel like this?  I guess it is the one drawback of being on a routine, you will break it at times and will beat yourself up about it.

She is such a good little girl though...this morning after I got her up at 8:30, I wanted her to try to get a nap in before our class and keep with her nap biorythym so I put her down for a nap at 9:30 (normally 9), and she went down with minimal fussing.  She had only been up for an hour!  She'll probably only nap for 45 min., but at least we will sort of be on schedule, right?

Thanks for listening!
Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 25, 2005, 17:08:14 pm
as I was writing my novel I noticed another page of posts, so will get back to you with Q's/A's...but had to say, Erin, LOVE The costume!

By niece (18 months) is named Octavia and she is going to be the same octopus!  (the octopus at Baby Style is named Octavia too!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 25, 2005, 17:23:48 pm
oK, oK,,
Lots of great posts! 

Andrea - hope your feet are feeling better.  Did it have anything to do with the pregnancy?  My feet are still half a size bigger after baby and my Mum says I better get used to it.

I hear you about the 2 hour nap thing as well.  Sol hasn't slept that long in weeks.

Richelle - loved the story about Sophie out partying!  About the exercise, I've always had an ongoing battle. (never quite where i want to be) I gained almost 50 lbs w/ ds.  ( 2 weeks overdue )  I vowed I would loose the weight in 4 months.  :shock:  LOL!!  Who was I kidding!

I do get up at 6:30 and go running for 1 hr - 3 days a week before DH leaves for work.  I had to take this time for myself and it's done wonders for me and my parenting. Not to mention I'm in the 'skinny jeans' I purchased at 5 mnths prego.

Erin - Almost lost it over Katie's picture.  Super cute!

Mickey - What's up with the acne???  I hope it eases when I stop BFing.  For now I started using an antibacterial soap and Clean & Clear!  I think the soap is doing more than the zit cream.

Just a comment on how much I love being a Baby Whisperer. :D   I was at my Moms' group and a bunch of ladies where giving a new Mom ( w/ 2 week lo) advice.  They were saying everything from; let your lo CIO, follow the baby cause the lo knows best to BFing makes them clingy!!!  I didn't say a word but slipped the new Mom a card w/ my number, the name of the book and this forum site!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 25, 2005, 17:34:39 pm
Hey Andrea,  don't feel bad.  I'm always lugging sol all over the place with me. 

We/ve been to overnight trips to Seattle (2xs) Portland, and camping in Whistler.
Just this weekend We had him in the mall from 1 - 4:30!  That doesn't even account for the 30min drive.  He totally missed his nap but was completely happy the whole time.

He has his fathers easy going temperment and I think it would be a waste if I didn't sometimes take advantage of that.  Sometimes.

He's so laid back that yesterday I discovered his two bottom teeth had come in!!! :shock:

What a terrible mother :evil:   I was check constantly a couple of weeks ago cause so many other babies we know have been drooling, fussing and waking at night but I felt nothing.  So I stopped really checking and thought I'd know when he got cranky. Not little man.  Not even a whimper.

I do feel bad sometimes but hey, the next one might not be so accommodating. :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 25, 2005, 19:19:02 pm
Hi Ladies

I'm back AGAIN!!  I'm sure I would go a bit nuts without this thread...

Traci - I looked at the warnings on my exercaucer and it has the same warning and I moved the notches up.

Judy - Glad you weren't offended but you know how typing something can change the tone?  Too bad we couldn't all get together for a cup of coffee!!

Erin - That is such a cute pic - I love the costume

Andrea - OUCH, i forgot now that I am typing but do have some help while you recoup?
I wouldn't worry unless Taylor seem's unhappy, I think it is great that you have gotten out - good for you!!

Hannah - I just went to the Ped. for Sophies exam and shots and I told her that Sophie 'spills' all the time even now on solids but she said not to worry unless Sophie is in pain ect...it is reflux but she said there are 2 kinds of refluxers and Sophie is a 'happy spitter'! :lol: Sophie had a time a few weeks ago when she seemed to have lost her appetite and I think maybe it was her teeth?  It passed either way...

Holly - Hang in there it will take at least a feww weeks to see results so don't get discouraged it will happen!  I do not want to give conflicting advice but PU/PD did not work for us, Sophie would get too wound up, Pat/SHHH worked alot better.  I know it seems hard but make all the techniques work for you.  You need to be comfortable and confident in what you are doing or your LO will not respond.  Does that make sense?

Micky - That is nice that you get to go for coffee with a new friend, especially as the 'experienced' mommy!

Also I asked my ped. about citrus fruit, berries, milk and wheat.  She said that if Sophie has had all of the above and had no reaction then it was safe to continue and said that it is fine seeing as DH and I have no allergies.  She said that the main reason citrus fruit is not recommended (including tomatoes) is that it has a high acid content and can cause painful diaper rash.  She said the 2 NOT to give was honey and egg whites before a year.  All the jamaican moms and nanny's i talk to feed babies eggwhites mixed with fresh oj as one of their 1st solids! :roll:   There is so mny different opinions sigh.....  I was glad to hear that Sophioe is happy, healthy and HUGE - 19lbs 12oz and 70cm long :shock: !!

Long post again...sorry, hope no one minds!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 25, 2005, 19:37:19 pm
Hey, there! 
LOVED the octopus, Erin! 
(((Hugs))) to Andrea and Holly (stick with it girl...the first few days are the hardest!!!).  Don't worry about getting off schedule...I discovered when I was teaching that I would say to my kiddoes every day, "Well, today's a bit of a crazy day, so...."  Seriously, every day cannot be a crazy day...it's just that your idea of a perfect day in your head never matches with reality, so it always feels like you're off.  Well, that's me anyway.  Since T is fine, you should feel okay about it.  HTH and didn't sound too confusing.

We are having a pretty good day after a LONG night.  Ryan was up 3 times...he's been sleeping through since August, so getting up 3 times was a bit of a shock.  (I have not been a bit worried about his sleeping through. :D )  I gave him my cold.   :oops:  :(   So, I am feeling like poop and need my sleep, but have to take care of him.  Poor baby couldn't breathe well.  I broke out that big bulb thingie to suck out the snot (sorry to be graphic).  It's scary!!!  Ryan did take a 2 hour nap this am at mil's and has already been down an hour now without a peep.  Hopefully it won't affect his sleep tonight...although he usually sleeps a lot, so we should be okay.  We'll have to skip swimming class though.  Oh, well!   
I think the cold is affecting my brain and I just keep rambling.  I'll let you all go now.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 25, 2005, 19:56:39 pm
holly: stick with it!!  PU/PD is very tiring (esp now that the LO's weigh a ton!)  But it worked for us.  We still have to do it occasionally but it took a good solid week of doing it.  I hope Traci has been able to talk to you and help you through it a bit.  I know you'd probably like her to come over and do it for you!!  :shock:  :lol:   IT WILL GET EASIER!!  You are just changing the rules on Brady so he's all confused.  He'll catch on.

hannah: we are doing 3 'solid' meals a day and 4 bottles.  We do breakfast (cereal and fruit)- I make a 6 oz. bottle and use about 1/2 of it to mix the cereal and then he'll usually finish it after his cereal.  For lunch (veggies, meat, and fruit) and I'll offer him a bottle usually only 2-4 oz. doesn't usually drink very much of this bottle.  His midday 'snack' is an 8 oz. bottle.  Then dinner (veggies, meat, and fruit) and I also make another 8 oz. bottle here.  I'll offer it right after dinner but he might only take 1-2 oz.  then I'll give it to him again before bed and he will usually finish it.  I don't do a DF and he will sleep thru until morning.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 25, 2005, 20:01:09 pm
Where to begin?? I go to bed and wake up to 5 pages! You girls have been very busy!!!
ERIN-totally cute octopus!!! Adorable!
JUDY-I am the same with Sam and strangers. If he is happy fine, if he starts to cry and cannot be distracted, I do not insist and he comes straight back to me.
ANDREA-Ouch :( 4 toes!!! I had minor surgery for 2 and it really laid me up. I kept wishing they had amputated my toes as they throbbed so much!! Hope you feel better soon.
HANNAH-I bottle feed 2 feeds (10am and 2 pm). Sam has 6-7 oz. He used to have 8! Morning and night feeds I breast feed so have no idea! He only does 4 feeds and has done so since about 5 months old. He sleeps through the night with no feeds! On the TV issue, I am quite anti-TV but that is just me. Sam has only watched Baby Mozart 4 times. I never have the TV on when he is in the room. Barter system for cleaning! Sounds interesting! Should have thought of that! We had to get a cleaner in when I was pregnant as I was sooo sick that I could not stand the smell of cleaning products. I asked dh if he wanted to do ALL the cleaning but we agreed that it was better for our relationship and sanity to get a cleaner. I don't know what I would do without Jenny. She comes in once a fortnight.
HOLLY-hugs! Hang in there! I had trouble with PU/PD but started BW before habits became entrenched and Sam was still young enough for shush/pat. Now when I have to do PU/PD, I find that I have to hold Sam very firmly even when he is arching his back. I also have to hold him for slightly longer as he is a little spirited. We usually only have to do PU/PD when he is overtired or overstimulated and we have to hold him very firmly against us so he can settle. What is Brady's temperament?
Thanks you guys for the support re going back to work! I will let you know how it goes. I am going back part time and between dh and myself, we have childcare covered. This makes going back easier as Sam is with dh when i am not here but I think dh is a bit nervous about having Sam all day by himself!
As for weight! I lost my pregnancy weight within 4 weeks of Sam being born. He was a voracious feeder! Now that I am not bf as much-only 2 feeds a day, I seemed to have gained some weight. Must stop eating junk in the evenings! As for exercise, well done NIKKI! I tried running a couple of times but my boobs hurt sooo much and it must have changed the taste of my milk as Sam kept pulling off and making funny faces. Now I just stick to brisk walking.
Enough from me. I did not mean for this to be such a long post.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 20:25:44 pm
Hi All,

Love the octopus...so adorable!  There were so many posts and I tried to remember stuff but now my mind is blank :?

Kate-hope Ryan feels better soon. I dread using that suction thingy on Cole.

Richelle-only one thing to say about eggs mixed with OJ-ewwwwwwwwwww.

And for all the moms and overnights...WOW.  my hat's off to you.  I am trying to convince myself to go to a halloween party this saturday but I'm so worried Cole won't take his bottle.  MIL has had 5 boys-I'm sure she can handle it but I guess I'm just worried he'll be hysterical the whole time or something.  Or maybe that he won't be hysterical and won't miss me at all :oops:

Anyone have quick and easy Halloween costume for DH?  I'm going as Avril Lavigne. Did it a couple of years ago so it's easy.  Only a few people at this party saw my costume so no biggie.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 25, 2005, 20:36:24 pm
Oh boy, ok will comment on what I remember:

As far as the nap discussion goes and total day sleep - I think every baby is so individual, Danielle is still having a 45min in the morning and 2-3hrs in the afternoon plus 11.5hrs at night, so she is over the daily total from that post.  Doesn't the BW book say 2 x 1.5-2hr naps plus the catnap for some of 30mins still - so a daily total could be up to 4hrs still?

Richelle, yes it does seem that there are a lot more gluten free products available these days, and I think we're able to get prescriptions for products from our GP.

Well my once a week pooper is gone!  Heehee, she's started going daily now that she's on solids, oh well almost 7mths of only changing maybe 30-40 poopy nappies is pretty good going I think considering Nathan was 3-5 a day for 2 YEARS +!!! 

Andrea, there's nothing wrong with having out and about time, heck, poor Danielle gets no choice really because Nathan has a social life, but I guess I do tend to always be home for their joint big sleep and the others are just whereever if we've got other plans. 

Ok, that's all I can view back on.  Well a busy day here today with a playdate arriving soon and then doctors this afternoon.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 25, 2005, 21:54:52 pm
Kate - just a quick post on the cold - Katie had a cold last week and we had the same trouble - too stuffed up to sleep and I had to get up and hold her until her nose cleared - and I had the same cold too - no fun, so I know how you feel -- but something that might help - we have a "crib wedge" which is this triangle shaped thing you stick under the sheet at one end of the crib which elevated Katie's head so her nose didn't stuff up as easily.  You can do it with books or whatever will elevate one end of the crib and that should help a bit.  Also, a humidifier if you have one is good for that too.  I have to get ours out again since it's time for the heat to be on and it gets so dry.  Hope you both feel better soon!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 25, 2005, 22:02:11 pm
Oh my ladies!
I went to bed last night on page 32!!!!!
I don't even know where to start...So the chat thing, sunday seems good, that would be monday for you aussie and nz mums, is that good for you?
Does anyone have a time to suggest, erin, you mentioned after 8pm eastern.
What do you guys think of 8:30 eastern time, so that would be 4:30 pacific time, and about 10am or so for the aussie and nz mums. Let us know what you think ladies.
Well I think I have caved in about halloween, a little late I know, but Jay will be a cow, and Riley will be a butterfly. I will make sure I put up pics of them.
No word on the interview yet, he did show me around the office and use words like WHEN, so who knows. I will be totally up a creek then, I find it hard enough to keep up as it is, haha.
Riley is mowing down on her solids, I am basically folowing th guide that the public health thingy's gave us, today she had banana and mandarin's, she had a half tub of that , followed by an entire tub of apricots.
I guess you need to watch what they eat if you have food sensitivties in your family, we are lucky in our brood.
I will try to check in more often, but man it seems like our little ones are growing right away, gotta run, in the middle of bedtime here, I am assisting dh now he is home.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 25, 2005, 22:02:27 pm
Just a quickie...

Traci - No Kidding about the ewwww factor, I can't even begin on what Jamaican's eat (goat head soup) :?   and the baby 'idea's' thatare part of their culture.  Alot of the nanny's here are Jamaican and not meaning any offence whatsoever but I couldn't handle having one for Sophie!

Nikki - Did you hear back definately about Nathan?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 22:16:00 pm
quick post for me too-surprise surprise.

Nikki-thanks for clearing up the daytime sleep question. I had forgotten Danielle took such a long afternoon nap.  I guess that's how she manages to last longer until bedtime.  Hmmm, what I wouldn't do for a 2-3 hour period all to myself :wink:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 25, 2005, 22:51:08 pm
OMG, I had to take notes, then gave up near the end.

Nikki - out of interest, how did you come to the conclusion that Nathan had Celiac? How does it effect him, if you don't mind sharing. If not, no worries.

Judy - good on you for being tv programme conscious, there's so much rubbish on I don't want Daniel to see when he's older. I hope I'm as vigilant as you are.

Traci - I also have the warning about being flat footed in the exersaucer, however someone else mentioned they're better to be flat footed so they don't shorten their calf muscles. I thought it might be to do with not standing before they should. The guy in the shop said it was because the harness was meant to support most of their weight. I admit Daniel's does need to go up though.

Judy & Richelle - as for the grizzly, crying thing, my DH says I always go to Daniel too quickly when he's crying. I pointed out yesterday that by the time he's around at the end of the day I've left him a few times to grizzle and we're both tired so both need less grizzles. Now that sounds like Daniel is a grizzler doesn't it. He's not, it's just when he face plants, or can't get to his toys or is on his tummy.....

Erin - gorgeous photos of Katie. Pretty in pink all right!

Holly - sorry I can't offer advice, haven't done PUPD yet. May still have to when I finish b/feeding and Daniel wakes in the night. Anyway, I"m thinking of you and hope it gets better soon.

Hannah - Daniel probably sees Baby M/E/B once every couple of days. I usually have a couple of toys in front of him too, so if he doesn't want to watch it he can play with his toys. Sometimes that's just what he does. As for how much tv, not a lot of big person TV is on when he's awake. However, I've noticed even if it is on, he doesn't necessarily watch it. And I will put his back to it so he can't see. He doesn't move, so that's easy.  :lol:

Andrea - enjoy going out. I wish we could more often, but due to petrol prices and being so far out of town (30mins drive) I only get out once, maybe twice a week. I always said I wanted a baby who'd adapt to going out, and he does.

Roz - wow, teeth and you didn't even know! Good boy Sol.

Speaking of teeth, I think we've got the eating problem sorted, and maybe even the morning nap problem. Did I tell you, I was struggling to get Daniel down again first nap. THought he was hungry, or needed more awake time, wasn't really sure, but he would scream until we got him up. Well yesterday I bought some homeopathic teething powder. Since then he's eaten 3 meals of reasonable size again, and he's now been asleep 2h 20mins. He was screaming lots thismorning, and I suddenly wondered if it was his teeth. So gave him a dose and 2 more loud screams then silence. Wow, does this stuff really work that well and quickly???

Any time for a chat works for me. My computer is always on. One thing I do need to sort out is the GMT thing. Karen and Nikki, what time do you have? Mine says "All times are GMT 5 hours" I think it defaulted to that and I didn't know how to fix it or what it should be. Any help appreciated.

Better leave this novel here, I think I'll go check Daniel.

Bye for now everyone!

OH one last thing, I'll check with DH to see if he minds me posting a photo of him, but if you liked the feeding in the box trick, wait until you see what else we've done with it. :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 25, 2005, 23:14:31 pm
Here goes... each time I post now, I take notes.  :D

Yikes! I just looked over and Arwyn almost pitched herself right out of her rocker. It is the kind that can convert to a rocking chair for a toddler and for an infant, it is reclined. Thank god it has a safety thingy that prevented her from rocking all the way forward and that I strapped her in!!! She is getting quite mobile and earlier in the afternoon, she had rolled all the way across the width of room and was doing a Spiderman pose on the side of the wall.  :)

Andrea... hope your toesies are doing okay. Good time to ask DH to do housework! Don't worry about the routines. You know, each time I take Arwyn out, I think about the routine... when I stay home, I think about it too and it NEVER works out the way it is "in the book". At first, it was tough to let go, now, I just go out and as long as I am home for one nap, I'm happy. AND, because Taylor is so good natured about it, GO FOR IT!

Bec... congrats on the sleeping through! 6 nights would be a big deal for me too... I have only ever had one night at a time and that has only happened 3 times!

Hayley... innovative LUNCH BOX!!! Love it! Glad to know it works. I have got Arwyn eating again now. I use CHOPSTICKS! She knows that Mommy eats with them so I think that she is fooled into thinking she is eating the same thing. Of course, I can't feed everything like that but I was surprised. I fed her peas this afternoon!

Nikki... Congratulations Nathan on his "back to sleep" skills! I know what you mean by the adult poops. Arwyn has them too and I just throw them in the toilet!

Richelle... I don't know how these los can sleep through all their gymnastics in the crib either. I heard a clunk yesterday night and found Arwyn had rolled over and hit the side of her crib and was in an awkward position so I repositioned her and before I even left the room, she had done it again, still was fast asleep!

Traci... on introducing food... I have read some places that they recommend trying with 1 teaspoon first, then 1 tablespoon. It totally depends on the literature! The one I have from BC Health Care says to start with 1 tsp and work up to 4 tbsp. They stress that if your fruits and vegetables need to be pureed, then your baby is not ready... I have disregarded this information as commercially produced baby foods are all pureed. They recommend mashing.

Nancy... I am in the same boat with the weight loss.  I was "on" Jenny Craig before pregnancy and only had 12 pounds to go when I became pregnant. Now, I have 15 pregnancy pounds left and 12 more after that! I must admit though, I could cut down the snacks and control my portions better but sometimes I am just so darn hungry!

Micky... I feel the same about adult interaction. I so look forward to the drop-in and really feel sorry for myself when Arwyn is napping and we can't go! I also, just this morning put Arwyn on the floor in her bedroom!! It must be a funny perspective from their vantage point.

Erin... LOVE the octopus. She is such a cutie!

Holly... HANG IN THERE!!! I am also still doing pu/pd with my little one to extend naps so I know how you feel. Some days though, I weigh how able I am to do it and if I don't feel I can, mentally and physically, I don't. The last thing I want to do is to  make her cry for a long time and then give up.

Hannah... Baby Einstein is DH's favourite babywatching tool. He will entertain her with it all day (if I let him) Currently, there is a Baby Einstein quota in our house... once in the morning, once in the afternoon or evening. If we watch TV while she is awake, she will chose whether she watches it or not. Most of the time, she does.

Roz... congrats on getting out for a run! I used to do this for years (brisk walk, not run) and loved getting my exercise over for the day! It was also a great way to start the day, all oxygenated!

Kate... I hope you and Ryan get better soon! I dread the day Arwyn and I get sick at the same time. So far, we have beat the cold virus but I'm not holding my breath. Especially with swimming lessons and all!

Well, it has been a 45 minute kinda day around here and with her dropping the catnap, it is SOOOOOO labour intensive after her second nap. For the last 45 minutes... yes, 45 minutes to take notes and post... she has been in her walker, eating/gumming an Arrowroot cookie. She totally recognizes the word cookie!!! Gotta run, she is not tolerating the walker anymore!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 25, 2005, 23:25:24 pm
Okay, so here it is. This is what happens when mummy drives to local chemist to get teething powder. Can you see Daniel amongsth everything else on the table!

Oh yeah,as much as I complain we're way out of town, we do have some shops only 3 mins drive from us, but they're things like chemist, bakery, hardware store, not nice clothes shops or anything I'd go for a stroll around.

And should I mention this? Daniel's been asleep now for 2hours 50 mins. I keep checking on him. I think this teething powder has worked a treat! He obviously really needed it. He's way past his next official feed time, but I'd given him a top up at 9am to make sure he wasn't hungry and not sleeping, so I guess as that's now 3 1/2 hours ago, he hasn't gone too long. He even slept thru the midday air siren.

Ankie, I love the chopsticks idea. But I'm trying to picture sloppy pumpkin with chopsticks... mmmmm. My DH encourages us to use chopsticks when we have meals that suit them, I"m not so good on the rice at the end though. I get frustrated. Haven't quite got the knack.  :oops:

Enough from me. Happy days!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 23:29:51 pm
girls...remember what we posted at the start of this thread.  don't feel obligated to read and respond to everyone.  I admit that I try to as well, but we certainly don't want this becoming a burden, do we?

I forgot to comment on tv watching.  when i first found BW I thought Cole was way overstimulated so didn't turn on the tv for about 4 weeks other than his Einstein video.  I used to have him watch it every day while i puttered in the kitchen for a bit.  Now that he's mobile I will put it on and let him choose if he wants to watch it.

My DH likes to have it on all the time.  he can't be home without the tv on...so Cole watches it with him sometimes.  most times when it's on he just plays with his toys.

I just read in Tracy's book somewhere to be careful what they watch...at some age images can remain in their head and if they are scary cause nightmares.  FYI. Not that any of us are watching Seven or something with our los.  I don't remember the age....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 25, 2005, 23:32:12 pm
OMG Hayley!  That is absolutely priceless. seriously, that may even beat the near naked sarah sleeping on the coffee table.

Daniel looks so happy hanging out with daddy!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 25, 2005, 23:36:47 pm
Oh Hayley that is the cutest picture!!

Hi everyone - I am still here, just lurking at the moment.  I will come back and post when I am feeling a little more up to it...  Like when I've got something good to say.

Oh, I would love to chat (probably) - Monday is one of my office days but I can sometimes sneak on and chat a bit, just have to see how the day is going.  One of you time zone gurus just needs to let me know what time to be there - I am on the east coast of Australia, in Brisbane.

Cheers all
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 26, 2005, 00:29:09 am
Hannah--My Olivia just went through the same thing last week--sleeping all night, then only taking 4 oz in the morning. She wouldn't be very interested at the 11:00 bottle either...maybe 3 oz then. But she would make up for it in the evenings, and sometimes wake to eat during the night (she typically doesn't). This week she has snapped out of it, though and it eating us out of house and home it seems! I think it might have been related to her teeth. Is Sophie teething?

Andrea--I wouldn't worry too much about being off routine. I try to get out and about a couple days a week, which usually throws us off routine somewhat. I figure the point of having a routine is to have something to come back to, not something to dictate your life by.

Bec--I don't rememer if you said...are you taking your LO camping with you? WE are supposed to go camping next weekend and leave Liv with ILs. I'm still not convinced I can do it...even though they live 10 minutes from where we'll be camping!

Holly--hang in there...it takes time. PU/PD did not work for us either...it stimulated too much. But Pat/SHHHH works great still. I say stick with PU/PD long enough to try to make it work, but if it just doesn't, you might try something else like Pat/SHHHH.

Ankie--I hear you on the snacks! I suppose I could cut back, too. But I seem to be hungry all the time as well. I thought it would subside when I stopped nursing. It has gotten better, but I still feel like I'm always hungry. Speaking of nursing...everyone said how much weight you lose breastfeeding. Well, I gained 7 pounds while I was breastfeeding!! I felt like some kind of freak!! I've lost it before, I suppose I can do it again. I just have to resolve myself I'll have to do it all over again after each child.

OK, girls...I win the Worst Spouse Award this year. Tomorrow is our anniversary and I haven't even THOUGHT of what to do for DH. We agreed on no gifts this year, just cards. And I do have a card, but that's all. He went to "do some things" after work tonight that I know are related to our anniversary, so now I'm thinking I should plan something a little more. I better go get started on that...YIKES!!

Don't know if I'll be checking much the rest of the week. DH is off and we're doing fun stuff around town with Liv...it's our little "family vacation together." Our anniversary celebration is SAturday night...complete with babysitter.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 26, 2005, 00:32:03 am
Hayley, here's the post I put about my discover of the celiac.

http://babywhisperer.com/forum/celiac-disease-anyone-else-vt43633.html

OK, chat times, Naomi, I'm not sure of your times in relation to us but if you chat the normal time that you usually would with the big organised one - Monday for me is fine, that fits in well with me as it's around 2pm and both kids are sleeping.  Aussies, are you guys still 3hrs behind us (Bris/Syd etc) or maybe it's 2hrs now - anyway around 11am-12pm for you unless you're up north.  Hayley, in your profile you can change the GMT to +12hrs (although it's an hour out because of daylight savings).  But in saying that, I can't get into my profile today.

I have Baby Einstein DVD's on in the afternoon for Nathan for an hour or so and sometimes I put Danielle in the lounge too to watch it, often she's in the jolly jumper for 15mins or so as well. 

Re TV, I think the main concern with current research is the moving images and flicking between scenes being too fast for children under 2 and it can lead to ADHD (they actually recommend no TV for children under 2).  But I feel fine letting D watch Einstein or we have a Play School DVD with the presenters singing nursery rhymes in a low-key kind of way.

Richelle, Nathan's off to doc in a few hours so will let you all know what the outcome is.

Ok, off for a cuppa and a wee read (or maybe I'd better read my study material....). :wink:  :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 26, 2005, 01:15:54 am
just had to post this, I caught the halloween dress up fever, she has pink striped tights, but I had to show off the wings
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 26, 2005, 01:47:06 am
Riley looks so beautiful! You guys must have so much fun dressing your LO's up. I'm off to get portraits done of Daniel tomorrow, they give you one free, so I'm thinking I might have to do one or two in normal clothes, plus a couple dressed up - just for fun!

Interesting about the celiac Nikki, I never realised it was such a widely spread and undiagnosed condition. Hopefully your and Nathan's life will soon get a lot easier. THnaks for the GMT info. I've set it for +13 hours as I think that would be right with DLSavings.

As for Baby Mozart, it's on right now as Daniel has some lying on the floor time. The only way I can get him to lie down happily instead of sitting up - and I can be on here at the same time.  :oops:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 26, 2005, 02:12:49 am
Nancy ok as the new mom to your dh's child I think you should stick to the 'no gifts this year' agreed upon policy AND I think dh should get you something anyway!! :)  As it should be!!  Would never happen around here though.  And just as well - I bought a new vacuum recently and dh commented that I got a good deal - much cheaper than what he was looking at for me for Christmas last year.  :roll:  A vacuum? for Christmas? So sorry you didn't find one!  HAA!

Hannah household chores... nothing set anywhere.  I do most of the cleaning.  Dh puts laundry in the washer and dryer often and I fold and put away.  He does dishes and kitchen most nights.  Will vacuum if I ask.  No 'trades' or 'barters' though :wink:.  If anything I'll say something like "do you want to change this diaper or fold the towels?"  He'll usually go for diaper but sometimes gives me a 'neither'.

As for tv.  Don't put anything on for K&H.  Never have tv on for us when the older girls are awake - unless it's food network but even that is rare.  They do watch Dora many days and there have been days I've let them watch an hour in our bed while I napped (zoboomafoo, caillou).  Sometimes in the late afternoon I'll put on Clifford if it's on and they are looking like they are about to fall asleep and I'm feeding.  It keeps them awake till I'm done with K&H and then I can work to keep them up.  But, as you've seen - they can drop on a moments notice too.

Erin What a cute Octopus!!!

Naomi Riley looks so cute as a butterfly!!

Love ALL the halloween pics.  Gee and I didn't get anything for K&H this year.  Was going to buy them some cute pumpkin outfits at Children's Place but dh looked at me crazy when I told him of the price.  Oh well...

Ankie we have the same rocking chairs and today Kaia was leaning so far forward she had her head stuck on the front side of the bar that goes overtop and holds the toys!!  HA!!

Jo hey don't just lurk girl - post away, vent, moan, that's what we're here for!

Haley LOVE that pic!!  That box sure comes in handy.  I had dh look at it... he doesn't know much of this site other than it's on the computer a lot.  Anyway, he says "what is there something wrong with that?  maybe it's a doll in the box. no?" "oh! what's it say on the box?" what a guy.  I love it!! :wink:

I better stop here and scoot.  Sarah fell alseep on me twice today at 5.30pm  Got her up once and carried her with me to put Hannah to bed but she walked away and went BACK to sleep so I put her to bed hoping she'd stay there the night.  Well she got up at about 7.30pm.  GREAT time of day for a 2 hour nap eh??  So now it's 10.15pm and she's plyaing beside me - think I'll take her to my bed and snuggle with her.

Oh yeah - on taking your kids to your bed.  I've given up trying to avoid that... but I tell ya if anything is motivating to NOT do it - it's being slammed in the head with another head multiple times.  OR having your preschool so close to you that everytime she rolls/moves she puts an elbow down on your overused nursing nipples.  :shock:  :shock:   I just don't have the energy to argue with them in the night anymore.  Good thing we have a king size bed.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 26, 2005, 02:42:58 am
Hayley, DH and I had a good laugh over the pic again.  It doesn't look real.  Looks like something off MAD tv or something.  Not sure you've ever heard of that.

Well, likely no Halloween party for me saturday.  Cole flat out refused the bottle just now.  I can't wait for him to start sleeping all night so I can have a life again.  DH is going to start doing breakfast/first nap tomorrow.  I think he feels bad that he hasn't had time to give Cole the bottle and that's why he's not taking it.  Maybe if he gets used to DH spending more time then he'll take it again.  He'll have to start taking something once the boobie magic gets taken away in a couple of months!

good night ladies.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 26, 2005, 02:46:38 am
Naomi... Cute, cute butterfly!! I can't wait to get Arwyn into her costume. A few of my drop-in friends are getting together on Sunday for a Halloween Brunch. I'll make sure I post pictures! (Nancy, you are not the only one married to an IT guy who feels she should have better computer skills :wink: )

Hayley...  :roll: DHs, eh? But that is one cute picture. I see you are preserving that box for future feedings. :wink:  I've been using chopsticks since I was two (or so says my mother) and I have already purchased a mini pair for Arwyn. She loves it when I feed her Cheerios from them... she will grab the chopstics and guide them toward her mouth. I really have to hold on so she doesn't hurt herself! Yeah... I don't know how I would fair with smooshie pumpkin either. :wink:

Nancy... I lost so much blood (5 of my 11 units) during delivery that my body burned alot of my fat stores that were supposed to be for making milk and I ended up almost at my prepregnancy weight. I was told to EAT so that I would recover my blood and start making milk. Once I gained about 8 pounds back, I felt WAY better and sure enough, was making milk. Since then, I have put on a few more and keep hoping for a small miracle to take it off. I just feel lazy when it comes to exercise. I am good about most other things, I just can't seem to get out and move... not the "go for a stroll with Arwyn" kind of move but the "I need to lose weight" kind of move, KWIM? Part of me wishes I never gained those pounds back but I guess it was for the best... Have a great anniversary celebration!

Judy...  :lol: Arwyn also got her head stuck in front of the bar!!! Gotta wonder how they managed to get past the bar in the first place.  :roll: Guess they are more flexible going one way than the other???
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 26, 2005, 02:51:25 am
Judy your posts always make me laugh.  I guess it pays to have a sense of humor with your brood :wink:

Traci thanks for the reminder about not needing to respond to everyone.  I hate to not sometimes because I want everyone to know that I am listening and I usually do have something to say...surprise surprise.. but still, it's good to be reminded.  Sorry no good ideas for haloween costumes.  Did you come up with something?

Hayley, that box pic is too funny.  I keep going back to look at it for a laugh.  I think it does almost trump the half naked Sara on the coffee table. Although that one still makes me lol.  BTW what are the tooth powders that you are using? I wonder if we can get them here?

Thanks to everyone for the tv watching input.  dh is a tv on all the time kinda guy and I am not at all.  Sophie seems to want to watch it if it is on...I have tried toys, turning her away etc.  I usually end up sitting with my back to the tv and her sitting between my legs with some toys to keep her from watching.  I guess I am just a bit of a worrier...especially about the troubling images. We can be watching the most innocent show..like the world series and all of a sudden a preview for a movie comes on and people are being hacked to death with a saw!  NOT something I want her to see now or ever.  She does absolutely love the baby einstein...so we will continue with that.  had a good talk with dh about it tonight.  When I mentioned the "scary images" stuff, he could really understand...he doesn't want his little tiny girlfriend to see that stuff either.

OK, I just pumped and the bottles are sitting here along with my tea and I keep reaching for the bottle when I want my tea!! Yuck!

And yes, yuck to the egg concoction.  It is cracking me up how different all of the food stuff is.  I can't wait, I am going to buy cheerios etc...all because you guys say it's ok. :wink:

Nikki- I have a couple of friends with babes who have celiac (sp?)  I think they told me that there are support websites dedicated to this topic alone.  I can find out if you're interested.

I think Sophie is teething..Olivia's mommy (I forgot your name! :oops: ) I do think it must be teeth.  She already has the bottom front two but it looks like she has some pretty big bumps on either side of those....She didn't really make up for it tonight.  She only drank about 17oz all day!!!  I will do a df for sure tonight, as always although I have been wanting to drop it, but perhaps now is not the time....anyhow, hopefully she'll take at least 6-8.
Does anyone know the ideal intake amount for ebm at this age? or formula?  Is there even a way to fgure it out...EEeesh.   That is one thing that has always confused me abou the bw book, when she talks about dropping the df, she says that you just add oz to the other bottles and decrease oz from the df...well what to do if your lo won't take more oz at other feedings??
OK, enough from me. 
Riley is way too cute.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 26, 2005, 02:54:41 am
Happy Anniversary to Nancy!
LOL Arwyn adn Judy about the rockers.  Hope the babes are ok!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 26, 2005, 03:46:27 am
OK, I know I said I wouldn't be able to post for awhile, but you people are addictive! LOL Actually, DH is fast asleep and I'm waiting to do DF at 11:00, so thought I'd see what's going on.

Judy--a vacuum for Christmas?!?!? I'm so sorry!!! Did you let him know you expect something a little better this year?

Ankie--so sorry to hear about your trouble in delivery. I'm glad you were able to recover well and still BF your precious girl. I've found the only way I can get the weight to come off is through exercise, specifically jogging or running. I've tried everything else...weight watchers, South Beach, high protein, pilates, tae bo. I do OK for a few weeks, but then I get bored with it and that's the end of it. I've found that jogging is good "me" time. The only problem is, I don't have the time anymore. I've been trying to do it during her first nap. It seems to work pretty well; I've just settled on the fact that the house won't get cleaned and laundry won't get done during that time. I wish I could get up and do it early in the morning...but that just won't happen. We are not a morning-person household. I wish we were!!!

Hannah-I know what you mean about TV. I think Olivia got very overstimulated by it in the beginning. (I didn't find BW until she was 6 weeks, and she had TERRIBLE screaming fits in the evenings before that. Then I realized I was feeding her, etc. in front of the TV most of the time.) Now we usually don't have it on when she's awake. Occasionally I'll flip it on for a little bit during the day with her. But I don't like to do it often. As for Baby Einstein. We tried it a few months ago and she wasn't all that interested, we'll probably try it again soon. But I also want to keep that to a minimum.

Well, it's almost time for DF...have a great night ladies. May all your LOs sleep well for you (and mine too!)  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 26, 2005, 03:47:35 am
Thanks for the anniversary wishes, Hannah!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 26, 2005, 04:08:50 am
Hi, just a quick question:  James is 7mths next week,hehas his 2 bottom teeth and his eye tooth on the left has just broken through.  Still no top teeth in front, so it is going to look funny for awhile :lol: Anyway, the question is:  James is on 4 x milk feeds a day and 3 x solid meals.  I always give milk first and then solid about 0.5hrs or so later.  He has not seem to want to drink all of his milk even his 1st one of the morning (he sleeps from around 7pm till 6:30am and plays till 7am.  He doesn;t wake during the night).  Out of a 210ml bottle (sorry for metric ladies) he will drink all bar 80-90mls.  The first one I don't mind as I use this on his cereal, but the other three during the day are also the same.  I have been advised by a health nurse to give him his bottle and then solids straight away and then wait for the next 4-5hrs before next bottle.  This is okay for breakfast, lunch and dinner, but how do you fit in the 3rd bottle.?  Is this afternoon tea still around 3?  At the moment our routine is

7am:  bottle
7:30 ceral

11am:  bottle
11:30/12pm: lunch

3pm: bottle
5pm:  dinner
6:30/6:45pm bottle

Should our routine be more
7am: bottle/breakfast
11:30: bottle/lunch
3pm: bottle
6pm:  dinner/bottle

I am not sure if heis doing this because of teething or something else (like needing to tweak routine).  Has anyone else been having this problem?  I know they say appetitie can go when teething and it has only been happening for about 3 days, but I thought milk at this age was more important than solids?   :?  :?

Lisa - mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 26, 2005, 05:32:09 am
Oh my... lots of things happening.  I am still here!  The lurking is still under my skin too! 
Lisa-Ben eats 4 times a day with BM and 2 times a day with solids, he is gaining weight and seems content.  I do worry that he is not getting enough.  I had my DH look up appropriate amounts of milk and he lied to me, telling me that Ben was eating enough so I wouldn't freak out AGAIN!  I figure if he isn't getting enough food he would let me know. 
Traci-One of our households easiest costume is a cowboy-pretty lame but it doesn't need an explanation and it is pretty comfortable.
Hayley-Ben didn't eat solids this morning but then went crazy for them this afternoon.  At times he will fuss at solid feeding time for a few days but then be back into them.  It is tough for me when I am dumping out his cereal that was made with my liquid gold!  He also had problems with his high chair but now has no problems with it.  I tell you this kid is very opinionated.  I love the pictures.  I showed them to my DH, hope he doesn't get any ideas.  I can see him having Ben push the saw!
Nancy-I have left Ben for the weekend and it was great.  Had a tough time on the way to the airport but once I had a few drinks I felt great.  It was very nice getting back to my LO though.  I found myself very refreshed.  He was with a babysitter from 10-10pm and I had a tough time with that.  A few phone calls later and he didn't even miss me!
Traci-Ben is eating 2 TBS of cereal 2x a day with 2 cubes of veggies/cereal.
Taylor-My babysitter forgot to feed Ben a bottle when we went to a wedding.  We came back in between the ceremony and reception to get something and found Ben screaming and an extra bottle in the fridge.  I cried all of the way to the reception.  I am sure your DH won't do it again :roll:
Micky-I currently an expert at my moms group.  I gave them plenty of info on making babyfood and activities.  Kept my big trap closed on sleeping.  I leave the group every time wondering why I talk so much.
Hannah-I am surprised when my LO doesn't spill on me.  Today I just rubbed it into my sweater sleeve and got in the car.  my perfume just gets better as Ben eats more solids!
All of the pictures are fantastic.  Some day I will get one picture on.  Can someone please make sure to post when you will be chatting and how to get onto the chat.  i will try to make it whenever it is.
Does anyone have a LO who gets red rimmed eyes really easily?  I know it is because he is tired but if he goes 15 minutes past the sleepy time they are so red.  I have had quite a few WHAT is wrong with his eyes?!
Cleaning-uggg I would love someone to come and do it.  I think it is going to take me getting pregnant again.  Our budget is so tight.  I have a hard time getting my DH to pick up after himself but he has been making dinner lately so I guess I am lucky in that area.
Happy days to you and of course happy sleeping.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 26, 2005, 07:19:01 am
Lisa, Daniel is pretty much on the same routine, although I try to leave his meal 1 hour after a b/feed. As you may have read I've had problems with him not eating his solids the last week, but prior to that he was gobbling down solids and not so much b/milk. My plunket nurse said he should still be getting about 1 litre per day at this stage, but if they won't take it, what can a mum do? As Daniel's fully b/fed I have no idea really how much he takes. It's only a guess.

Hannah, the teething powder is by a NZ homeopathic company called Weleda. It consists of Chamomilla root & conchae in lactose base. You can probably get something similar o/seas. I noticed today how much happier Daniel has been and I only gave it to him twice. He can have it up to 4 x a day or even more if required. So I feel better giving him this than normal pharmacutical medication.

I told  DH about all your comments on the photo, I think he was quite chuffed to have made such a good (?) impression on you all! The family all love the photo. I think I should find a baby photo competition and enter it!

DH is working tonight, so I'm going to have a super early night and curl up in bed and watch tv while I drift of to dreamland. Goodnight everyone  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 26, 2005, 08:43:24 am
Well my doc advised against the biopsy as a first means of testing for celiac and suggested doing the elimination diet.  I checked out a website tonight with all foods in NZ that are gluten free and most of what we eat is fine or there is an alternative brand available.  The main issue will be bread I think and probably from a social point of view and no takeaways (not that he has then anyway atm, but as a teenager I can imagine it will be a sore point). 

I'm feeling quite positive about it and actually can't wait until he's free of gluten and see if there're any changes in his behaviour/sleeping etc and maybe he'll have a growth spurt LOL.  DH is 6'1" and I'm 5'1" so I'm hoping his shortness is due to the allergy and not my short genes LOL.

I am going to speak to my homeopath though and see if she can work on his case a bit more, we haven't been able to crack it yet, but maybe now we'll make some headway with it.

Now, back to Danielle, since this is a baby thread LOL.

She scoffed down her pumpkin and corn today followed by apple.  This is a huge improvement and is even starting to sometimes open her mouth for a bite rather than lick/slurp.  I didn't offer rice cereal today either, which is good, cause I'd rather go the fruit/vege route mostly.  Now to decide what to offer next - I'm kinda getting sick of Nathan announcing to everyone that "Danielle's got pumpkin poo!" LOL.

Night all.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on October 26, 2005, 10:11:32 am
Hello Girls :D
Big  announcement!! Sienna officially rolled from back to tummy today!
My little girl is starting to make some moves!! :)
Nikki-Glad to hear that it won't be a major hassle for you regarding Nathan's diet etc--Be interesting to see how he responds.
Naomi-Riley looks so cute :wink:
Take care everyone.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 26, 2005, 11:12:18 am
I just read about 4 pages so forgive me if I don't remember who said what.

Micky - Yes, We are taking dd camping. We have a camper-trailer which is really just an overpriced tent  :lol: It's large enough to fit her travel cot next to our bed. We are only going about 1.5hr drive away from home and just for one night. We used to camp all the time and all we needed was the esky (full of beer of course) and a good book. Now I guess we will have to take half the house with us. Certainly much more planning will be involved. :roll: Not sure how much surfing DH will get done :lol:

Andrea -I worry about going out and getting off the routine as well. But then I think if I didn't get out I would go crazy.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 26, 2005, 11:59:59 am
Naomi-how did I miss your butterfly last night???  Love the wings...please post it with her tights showing too.  I can see them peaking out and they look adorable.

Hannah- the calculation i was given for EBM is weight X 2.5 / # feeds =oz.
this of course was before solids are introduced. eg 16lbs X 2.5 = 40/5 feeds = 8 oz.  It makes it more difficult with solids.  I would just let her guide you.  She'll let you know that she's full.  Makes me think that's why Cole only took 2 oz. from his bottle on Sunday.  That and/or teething.

okay, that's all I have time for right now.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 26, 2005, 12:38:41 pm
Just have time for a quick post.  I just wanted to add a pic in regards to the TV debate.  We have the TV on all the time, I don't know why - we didn't have TV for 2 years at one point, I had just never really thought about it. 

I also got a glare from a lady yesterday after I gave Sophie her toy back that had fallen on the floor of a restaurant :oops:

Bad Mommy.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 26, 2005, 13:01:49 pm
ok, so I must be the worst mum ever, haha, I put the tv on in the morning, it is on pretty much all day, more for background for the kids.  We do have guidelines what is appropriate for them to watch.
Traci and anyone else who is trying bottles, what kind do you use, we found that the platex advanced nurser system was really good, also the method used in BWSAYP was really good, and now riley has one or two bottles a day.
Man last night I went to bed on page 37, and woke up to page 39.
Thanks for the compliments on Riley, i came home last night from the mall, and she was still awake, so I thought I would try it on her then, but she laughing as I was putting it on.
haven't heard anything back from the job, probably won't till the end of the week, but I will be sure to let you know. I would like to get it, but no biggie, just means I get a little more time at home with the kids.
Okay, the chat, seems everyone likes sunday in the us and mon in AUS and NZ.
I can do 10pm my time, so I guess it would probably be best to stick to the same times as the regular chat. Anyone up for this sunday to start.
For those of you who haven't dome it before, in the lounge there is a chat room link, click on that and set up an account on you don't have one, and then sign in and chat.
I will put up a link for it on sunday to make it easier than searching around.
I will make sure I put the pics of riley's full outfit up soon.
enjoy your day ladies, where ever you are, oh, almost forgot, so nice to see the newest members of our clan post again, bianca so nice to hear from you again, and yay for sienna on her rolling.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 26, 2005, 14:10:45 pm
Naomi-we use Avent bottles.  Have since the start.  he used to take a bottle no problem before but DH then didn't have time to do it regularly.  I think I'll just have to try more often during the day.

Holly and everyone else-sorry for commenting on the 2 hour nap thing.  i go and spout off like i know what i'm talking about and wouldn't you know Cole is going on his first 2 hour nap in months!  Actually-maybe i should check on him, it's so unlike him.  He woke at 40 minutes, cried on and off for 10 minutes and hes been back down for 1:10 more!  Didn't have a good night though.  Settled fine at 6:15 but woke on and off until 7.  Then we tried the bottle which he wasn't impressed with, woke at 3am, fed one boob, woke at 5, fed one boob, didn't really go back to sleep...stayed in room til 5:45.  HEY-now he's up.  hee hee.  i think he knew i was posting.

bye
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 26, 2005, 15:14:40 pm
Traci about the bottle refusal.  It may have nothing to do with DH at all really.  Zoe took to bottles no problem and then suddenly one day around 3 or 4 months decided she wasn't having anything to do with them again.  She'd been getting a bottle of ebm every other day or so from 2weeks.  Then one day she started with the bottles again no problem.  She then had two days where she wouldn't take the boob for her two middle feeds only the bottle.  So fine I thought we'll just start weaning - well nope she switched again and refused the bottles AND her solids for 3 days.  She was one tough nut.

I was going to comment on the nap thing with dh too - I find that Hannah almost always wakes early if I leave the house - even if I leave AFTER she's sound asleep.  It's like she knows.  And it doesn't matter what dh does she wants me and only me and nothing else will do.  If I leave while they are still awake they're good for about 30minutes and then they scream and scream and scream until either I come home or they pass out.   :cry:  :cry:   And dh spends a ton of time with all the girls so it isn't like they aren't used to him.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 26, 2005, 15:36:24 pm
Yeah, Traci!!  I was laying in bed trying to go back to sleep after Ryan woke up again (only 2 times last night...with humidifier, thanks for the reminder, Erin!) and was thinking the same thing.  Why am I thinking about BW in the middle of the night instead of sleeping?   :roll:   It never hurts my feelings if you don't comment on a post...in fact it can be a bit intimidating to log on and see 5 pages!  Hopefully this reminder will cut down a bit of extra space.  Maybe this is why the newbies have dropped off?  I'd say if there are a few things that you want to comment on that's perfect, then get your vent on.   :wink:  (Hope that sounded nice...we've discussed the tone thing before...so hard when you're only typing!!!)

Here's my vent/question of the day:  Ryan HATES putting on his winter coat and/or getting into the car seat.  I guess it's the containment thing?  He screams and cries and, since he generally doesn't do that, it's upsetting for all of us.  Anyone else had to deal with this?  Any suggestions?  TIA!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 26, 2005, 16:02:02 pm
Richelle, that picture is too funny.  I love it.  Not bad mommy...real mommy And yes, I think we should try for the chat this sunday if anyone's up for it.
I am coming down with a cold I think...yuck.  DH and dd are too?? I'm off to nap while she does.
Thanks for the numbers Traci.
Talk to you all later.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 26, 2005, 16:47:05 pm
hi guys!  I got this from my ped. last time I was in :

Approx. Daily Food Intake for 6-8 months
formula----------24-32oz.
dry infant cereal----4-8Tbsps
veggies--------4-8 Tbsps
fruit----------4-7 Tbsps
meat------3-6 Tbsps
juice (optional)----3-4 oz.

offer veggies and fruits once cereal is accepted
veggies should be unsalted
fruits and juices should be unsweetened
offer single pureed meat after fruits and veggies are accepted
well-cooked egg yolk can be given.  Egg wihte should not be given until one year because it is a common allergen.

When we get there I can post the 9-10 month suggestions.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 26, 2005, 17:00:25 pm
Thanks hannah, I came back on and thought oh my no one has said anything they DO think I am a bad mommy lol  :lol:.  Just kidding but I should have included the story :roll:.  I had put her on her blanket in the middle of the floor where she was squealing and rolling around as I emptied the dishwasher.  All of a sudden it was really quiet and I went in to find her like that in front of the TV! :shock: 

I suppose now I will be more aware of what she watches, she never seems interested in the TV unless it is Einstein which she will happily watch for 45 minutes (yes I have timed her).  I hope when I am finished work i will have more time for her, I just have so much to do around the house on my days off or else I am running errands, which she is such a good sport about ...sigh...

Riley is so adorable as the butterfly!!!

About the sippy cups.  I tried to find the nuby cup here but knew I was dreaming but got the Avent sippy cups and they are really good.  They have the vent that prevents spilling but it is really easy to get water out of it by either sucking or biting.  It also has a rubber spout so Sophie loves to chew it and get water it is great to watch and she is finally getting the hang of tipping it up!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 26, 2005, 17:02:01 pm
Kate-not sure what you can do about the car.  Maybe sing his most favourite song while you're getting him ready. Make it into a game.  Also, remain positive and upbeat yourself.  if you're stressed maybe he's picking up on it?

Judy-thanks for the info on bottle acceptance/rejection.  You know what, I probably should just go, right?  I mean, I have to get out some time.  And if MIL has to hold Cole to go to sleep, then one night isn't going to undo all my hard work, is it?

Micky-thanks for the guidelines.

so is everyone letting their los eat cheerios or other similar finger foods already?  I saw the Baby Mum Mums the other day, but it says on the box to wait until they can feed themselves :?   Cole grabs the spoon out of my hand and shoves it in his mouth.  does that count?

please send encouraging vibes for me to get out of the house on saturday night.  on a positive note...I managed to find a spa to accomodate us so i'll be having a 1.5 hour massage that day at the very least (and lunch with my girlfriends)

oops, one more thing-Coles naps are getting closer to the 9 and 1 mark...for instance I just put him down for second nap because we were out and about.  I doubt I'll give him catnap today because he shouldn't really be tired for it.  is that how it's all working for everyone else.  Awake time longer=later naps=only time for two naps???

thanks
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 26, 2005, 17:13:43 pm
Richelle (right?  sorry if the names wrong. not on the scroll) - you crack me up!  I could write a book of confessions of a bad mummy.   :)   I was so tired yesterday that me and sol looked exactly like Sophie watching tv!! 
In the beginning, I used to boil everything that touched the ground.  Now, I good wipe usually does the trick.

I have a simular situation to Lisa.  I'm on the same routine but I don't feed sol solids at lunch.  I find he's rarely interested in eating in the morning but does make up for it at night.  I tried giving him lunch and he would eat less at dinner, not take his 7:30 feed and wake up in the night. 
Now I don't know if I should re-introduce the lunch?
Anyone else not feeding lunch?

Tracy (cole's mom) - I agree with Judy about the missed feedings. little man also went on a bottle strike after I introduced solids. I'm out of the house 2 nights a week so I was really worried he 'd starve.  It took about a week to get him to take it again and he'd only take it from me.  Now he doesn't seem to care where his next meal is coming from.

Hope this question isn't 'too much information' but i really have no one else to ask.

My doctor said I'd probably be 'monthly visiter' free for as long as i'm BFing.  I got my 'visiter' after 4mnths and the PMS has been like nothing I've ever had before.  Even as a teenager!!  I'm not a fun person to be around and I feel like I could sleep for a week. 
Am I the only one?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 26, 2005, 17:33:40 pm
Roz - I swear I could have said that anout the PMS - so no you are not alone.  I got my period 3 months ago (while breastfeeding also) and have such raging PMS.  I struggled with it before, mostly moodiness but not like this (i am raving bitch!) and I too feel almost sick, very tired and headaches.  I got a low hormone birth control pill from my OB but haven;t started it yet, we'll see what that does.  Glad you said something thought that maybe it was just me.  phewww.....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 26, 2005, 17:57:07 pm
Roz/Richelle, i haven't had it yet but almost wish I would get it.  my tummy is the only thing not shrinking and DH and I haven't been very careful. Could you imagine!  My kids would be as close together as Judy's!  LOL :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 26, 2005, 19:41:48 pm
HAYLEY-thanks for the name of the teething powder. Will keep that in mind. Love the pic. Told dh about it and now I fear that I have given him ideas. He'll be looking for a Sam sized box next!
No go on the chat sorry guys but will be right in the midst of my first day back at work. Think about me while you are all catching up!
Thanks for the guide on feeding Micky. I keep wondering if I am giving him too much, not enough.
JUDY-fortunately Sam does not seem not to mind me leaving the house and will happily settle with dh..I certainly hope that this will continue when I go back to work. I have never been out of the house for longer than 2-3 hours on my own.
Must dash.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 26, 2005, 20:12:31 pm
Goodmorning! Well, so far so good. I'm crossing my fingers for a better first nap for Daniel as for the last week we've had HUGE problems getting him down to sleep. I've wondered if he has been hungry, over tired, under tired, just being stubborn, teething, you name it, I've wondered...... :? I've tried to do a little more with him thismorning, even put him in the jolly jumper, also thinking he hasn't been worn out enough to sleep. He's been up for just under 2 hours now and not a sign of him being tired yet. I'm going to try watching cues for this nap to see what happens. His middle of the day wake is 2 1/2 hours, that's always fine, no dramas, just this one I can't figure out again. Grrrr.

We've had a couple of nights waking up again, but I'm sure it's because his food and milk intake hasn't been up to what it was. He's getting better with his solids again, so hopefully back to normal soon. He was going so well.

I'm off to my first Pilates class here tonight. Of course, DH happens to be working tonight, so need to find a babysitter for an hour. There should be someone around base that can help, after all Daniel WILL be asleep. I haven't been doing any other exercise except walking with Daniel so some organised class will hopefully help. I'm lucky and am basically back to pre-pregnancy size except for a little bump on my tummy. Some say it won't go away, I have other plans...... I just have to put them into action.

As for bottle feeding, yeah well.... still not much luck. But I'm hopefully about to order a B-free bottle, (previously Dr Brown's) I'm hoping it's going to be as good as they say. They give a money back guarantee if you're not happy.

Gotta go, things to get done. Yay, Daniel went to sleep without too many tears.  :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 26, 2005, 20:43:09 pm
Bianca, yay Si for rolling!

Traci, yep as they extend their activity time out you run out of time for a catnap - that was my delimna with D which is why I ended up keeping her up for a long stretch in the afternoon and she amazingly does it fine.  Also, from experience with Nathan when he also dropped to 2 naps a day his 3x45min naps automatically adjusted to 2 x 1.5hr naps at 6mths - so I think it's an age thing.  Oh and finger foods would be fine from now on, I was giving Danielle crackers prior to her eating her puree properly and she self-fed herself really well (I've had to stop them until I find a wheat free variety in the supermarket this weekend).

Richelle, glad you shared the story behind the TV watching. :wink:  Not that I thought you were a bad mum anyway! LOL.  The times that I have left Danielle purposefully in front of the TV with Nathan she's often still been strapped in her carseat since I've rushed in to cook dinner (and then the other day I heard Nathan saying "handstands" and turn around and D's tipped upsidedown in her carseat - just as well I'd left her strapped in!  :shock:  :roll:

Karen, good luck with work on Monday.

No AF here either, I didn't get it till Nathan was 12mths last time (which was a pain cause I wanted to ttc as soon as I could from when he was 9mths old - fortunately it happened the first month after it's return).  But this time, I'd do anything to not get pregnant ever again (poor dH is certainly missing out in that dept) LOL.

I was so grossed out when I dropped Nathan at pre-school today, I left D parked outside the door in the umbrella stroller with no kids around her and put his bag on the hook and heard all this sneezing and turned around to see a kid on a ride-on sitting right in front of her - hopefully it was HER sneezing and not him. Blurchhhhh.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 26, 2005, 21:08:18 pm
yay for Sienna!!!!!!!  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Haley - have you tried having Daniel nap in his box?  :P  :P   Worked for eating - and hanging with dad!!  :P  :P   Sorry - It just struck me funny.  You should video him and send it in to America's Funniest Home Videos and win $$$

Bottles - I pumped 10oz out of these poor boobs only to have the bottles completely rejected and the 'gold' dumped down the sink.  :cry:  :cry:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 26, 2005, 22:11:24 pm
LMAO Judy at the box idea!  :wink:

How dissapointing with the milk going to waste - I must admit that's why I never did a bottle with Nathan, I tried it once, took me ages to pump a small amount of milk and he wouldnt' take it, I know I could've persevered, but..... :(
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 26, 2005, 23:28:58 pm
oh judy, that's a drag!  i hated dumping my 6oz last night too.
a girlfriend of mine suggested just giving it to Cole cold.  that way no dumping if he doesn't take it.  I've never tried it, but wonder if it would be worth a try :?

okay ladies...here is the gift I did for my friends 1 year old.  It's basically a simple scrapbook page in a frame.  I'm pretty proud of myself.  It's the first scrapping I've done!

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/sophiaplain.jpg)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 27, 2005, 00:08:56 am
oh traci that page turned out so nice.

okay, I have to throw this out there for you all, as I am a little lost as to what to do.
As I have metioned before, we have had to get back on the routine wagon as we had majorly fallen off it.
The food thing is going good, we are mostly on a EAEAS routine, fine tuning the times, but we generally have the right order.
The problem we are having is the pd at any sleep time, she goes NUTS when we put her down. It is pretty much as soon as she notices she is being pd in her crib. She is used to be wonderful at it, but since she discovered moving and everything around her, it has become very tricky.
I do try to wind her down as best I can, but that involves me having her on my knee to have "quiet" time, and usually watching Jay play.
Bianca Nikki and Judy, how do you get your lo's to settle on their own without neglecting the other one(s) from your supervision.
TIA for your suggestions girls
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 27, 2005, 00:30:16 am
That looks great Traci!

Naomi, sorry no wonder tricks here...Danielle has always just gone into bed pretty much by herself with minimal patting needed.  I'm thinking because Riley used to do it well, that it's developmental and due to her moving around more.  I have a feeling we're gearing up for that stage though, just today, D's grumbled her way to sleep with me going in there to give her the odd jiggle, she wasn's upset, just not going to sleep without a peep and was turning around in her cot - she's actually in a safe-t-sleep that keeps her in place on the mattress though (fortunately Nathan was at pre-school for the 1st nap and 2nd nap he was also in his room for his nap so I was able to do it uninterrupted).  I'm not sure how I'd deal with it, but are you able to explain to Jay that if you help Riley go to sleep faster, then you and him will have playtime once you're done?  Also, Nathan now gets to have a hot milo (hot chocolate) in the morning once D's down for her nap and I think I'd use that as an enticement if needed (I won't withhold it, but just as something to look forward to).

Not sure if that helps, so hopefully the other gals have some good suggestions.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 27, 2005, 00:33:30 am
Naomi - Have you ever tried giving Riley a quiet toy to have in her crib while she winds down?  It works for Katie sometimes.  Love Riley's butterfly costume too.

No AF here for me, though I'm getting anxious for her reappearance...would like to start work (so to speak  :wink: ) on #2 in the not too distant future...though I never was one for regularity in that department

Judy/Traci - do you ever pump and try to feed just an ounce?  That is what I did with Katie when I was getting her to take the bottle - that way I wasn't dumping all my hard work down the drain - make sure it's nice and hot too - I can't get Katie to take it any other way.

Richelle - love the pic!

Hayley - I think that our LOs just like the shake things up a bit every time we think we've got it down  :)  - I find Katie does that periodically and I just have to go with it the best I can for a bit and then it gets better.

Roz - we only started lunch a few weeks ago and Katie will be eight months on November 6th, so not to worry.  I think about three weeks ago I started giving her a jar of veggies at lunch and she loves it. 

Hope everyone is well!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 27, 2005, 00:35:44 am
Traci  LOVE that scrapbook page!  Looks awesome.  You should be very proud.

As for the milk - it's my understanding that, warm or cold, once their lips touch that nipple saliva gets into the bottle and the digestive enzymes work their 'magic' and bacteria starts to grow within a few short hours.  Isn't the official word 'an hour'?  Little one's tummies are so much more susceptible to this that we are.  Same reasoning for not feeding right out of a baby food jar unless you intend to use the whole jar at one meal - which having never used them I've no idea how much is in one jar.

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Bianca Nikki and Judy, how do you get your lo's to settle on their own without neglecting the other one(s) from your supervision.
TIA for your suggestions girls

Gosh Naomi - well, during the day it's not so bad because the babies go down not too bad.  Kaia puts her finger in her mouth on her way down to the mattress and rarely lets out a peep.  Hannah is a bit tougher and often needs about 5 solid minutes of patting.  Zoe and Sarah are usually fine during this time although fights do erupt often.  :roll:  and then I just tell Hannah that I must go check on her sisters and I'll be back.  Sometimes she's fine and drifts off, others I have to run back and pat some more - I just tell myself that rather than 'leaving her alone' I'm letting her 'work off some steam'  :)   I think in my case it's a bit easier as my girls have a playmate and are not alone (although the fights...).  When I just had Zoe and Sarah, Zoe would often come in the room with me and sit quietly (the girls have done this together this time round too for awhile but it's become boring now). Although by this age (6months) Sarah too was a breeze to put down.  Just plop her in the crib and walk away - no wind down time necessary.  It's the fingers/thumb sucking I tell - if only Hannah would figure it out.

Now as for bedtime - it's a real REAL problem.  I cannot for the life of me figure out how to put these babies to bed.  I don't get it.  I've tried early, late, in between.  Feeding to sleep, feeding an hour before sleep.  Hannah invariably wakes up (if she fell asleep eating) once she hits the mattress and then she's fussing/talking/crying/angry for a good - well it's been two hours right now.  I'm feeding them now for the third time since 6.15pm just hoping they'll go to sleep.  Zoe's gone to bed sad because she really really really wanted to read books with me (dh is out of town) but the babies needed me instead.   :cry:   I really hate that.  And with dh away I end up having to threaten the older girls to go to bed and stay in bed and not cause more noise.  The babies were, tonight, left to cry long enough for me to tuck Zoe in.  Sarah went to bed on her own earlier with a quick tuck in.  (she's pushed Zoe down pretty hard - unintentional I think as Zoe was wearing slippery nylons on a very slippery wood floor - and felt bad that Zoe cried and that I gave her a scowly "your sister did NOT deserve that" and it all left her feeling rather sad I think  :cry:  :cry: )

I think the worst part of it all is that my stress level is sure to be felt by everyone no matter how much I try to hide it.  Heck maybe that's the problem with bedtime.  I'm sure if I had someone monitor my blood pressure all day that it would start to go up as 5pm neared.  *sigh*
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 27, 2005, 00:47:13 am
Naomi:  I am SO GLAD to see your post.  Not that I have an older one to contend with, but Ryan has started going postal whenever we go into his room...even for a diaper change.   :?   I know it's a rough few days (cold, flu shot, starting to commando crawl  :D , and I've messed up his schedule in anticipation of time change), but I'm worried it'll be his new thing.  Glad to know it's not just us!  Hopefully they'll both grow out of it soon!
No AF here...I'm on low estrogen bc.  I just got a 3 month supply and then I'll be done.  Hopefully I can get right back on a regular cycle and get crack-a-lackin' on # 2 (after a few months, of course). 
Traci:  Such a great present for your friend!  She'll love it!  Add that to your other small business ideas and you'll be the richest SAHM around!   :wink:
On the homefront, Ryan was up for over 5 HOURS!!! this afternoon.  Ugggh!  Dh called to check in, heard my stess, and managed to come home a bit early to help me out.  Of course, Ryan was in a fabulous mood by then.   :x   Never fails!!!
Lost is a rerun, so I might be around for chat tonight.  (How sad is that statement?)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 27, 2005, 03:28:58 am
I've had AF visit twice already and is due again any day.  I did start on BCP at about 3 months post partum but I turned into a complete raging B*T*H.  I started complaining about how my DH was hanging his bathroom towel! :shock:  :roll:   Needless to say, DH asked me to not be on them anymore! :lol:   Definitely not trying anytime soon for #2.  #2 Has to be at the same time of year that Jackson was born so that I can have DH stay home with me again.  He was able to be home for 5 weeks for Jack. :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 27, 2005, 03:30:43 am
do you guys know why when I try to update my profile it redirects me to the expanded forum index??  I can't seem to get into my profile.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 27, 2005, 03:50:40 am
Mickey--go to the glitches section, I think there is a link there that will take you to your profile.

Judy hugs to you.  I do not know how you do it with four and dh gone.  I truly wish I could come over and help. 

Traci- I love the framed scrap page...and I was thinking...since there are two Sophia's on the thread (Richelle is your Sophie officially Sophia as well?)  We could uh, test drive them for you ?! JK.  I am sure your friend will love it.

As far as AF goes, I need to keep better track becasue I think I have had a couple.  I had a IUD placed after Sophie...did not want any more suprises :) though very very happy for this one! I can't take BCP.I am a total mess on them, so I opted for this instead.
I also thought I wouldn't while bf, but I guess it's still possible....especailly with pumping only, I only pump three or so times a day and am able to feed her 5 with that...even more lately since she's hardly eating.

Hayley, I can't remember has Daniel gotten any teeth yet?  I know it's annoying to always be told/always be thinking--oh it's probably teeth...but seriously it probably is and thankfully the powders will help some, but he still may be out of sorts ofr awhile as a result.  it seemed like forwever that Sophie was "off" and then just recently her sleeping got back on, but now her eating is way weird.

I can't remember who said it but I agree, just when you think you've got it down, they change the rules...and it's a new game.   It helps me to remember that nothing seems to last for long (retrospect is so healing  :wink: )

Fun to chat with you Kate and Naomi.
Are we on for Sunday?/Monday
Good luck with the babies.  As my dad would say...easy does it.  Funny he always used to say that, and I just realized how funny that is in relation to BW!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on October 27, 2005, 04:19:37 am
OK, ladies, not much time to post or reply. Just wanted to say, had a GREAT anniversary! DH took care of DD this morning so I got a little break. Then after her nap, we took her to the zoo and a pumpkin patch. She had so much fun and we got some great pics...I'll have to figure out how to post them sometime! Our big "night out" is Sat...we have a sitter and DH and I are going out for the evening. Oh, and for those that heard me panic about the gift thing...turns out the "surprises" he got me were: 1) he rented 2 movies I've been wanting to see, and 2) he bought me a candle in my favorite scent and promised to take me for my favorite dessert sometime this week. It was sweet, but didn't make me feel guilty for not getting him anything (well, nothing I purchased at a store anyway :oops: )

DH is off the rest of the week and we have more outings planned with DD. It's like our first "family vacation" where we're not traveling to see extended fmaily.

macaire--thanks for the pep talk on leaving LO. I think I've convinced myself to do it. It's just for one night and DH and I haven't been camping in over a year. As long as it's not too cold here, I'll probably go.

Richelle--I thought it was so funny that you said you got a glare from a lady for giving the toy that dropped back to Sophie. I do that all the time (of course I brush it off or something), and I'm just sure I'm going to get a lecture someday from a complete stranger (or my own mother!). We have a dog, who DD LOVES, so I figure she's going to be licked in the face and worse. A little dirt won't kill her (as long as it's not a really gross floor or something.)

Kate--Olivia also fusses when I put her coat on her, and sometimes when I put her in her car seat, although not as often with the car seat. She's always hated putting shirts or onesies on her arms (especially long sleeves), so I figured that's why she throws a fit. I think she doesn't like her arms being "forced" to do something she can't control.

Traci--I loved the framed page you did...what a great idea! It turned out so cute!!

Well, better go, DH is finishing DF, and it is our anniversary! Have a great night all!
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Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 27, 2005, 05:42:26 am
Kate-Ben is into arching his back and some fussiness when getting into his carseat.  I give him a toy and I have started to give him the tag blanket to distract him.  He also gets mad at me when putting on layers of clothing.  I make a song up about putting clothes on or sing a favorite song with tons of animation, I obviosly miss my first grade class a little!
Richelle-we wipe things off quickly or my latest trick is putting the toy in my purse then wipping it out again after a few minutes and a few aisles later in the grocery store.  I would love to see the footage of me on the camera in the store.
I am on the "mini" pill and still breast feeding and no little monthly friend yet.  I am truly enjoying going to the store monthly to buy a pregnancy test :?   Some days I think I am pregnant.  I think we will wait a bit longer.
A friend came over today, she is 55.  Ben barfed all over himself 1 1/2 after he had eaten.  I said wow he sure spits up a lot.  She told me that one of her kids spit up a lot too.  I told her how long it had been since he had eaten and she got me worried about the comments she made.  I reassured myself by telling myself that she was too old to know!
Has anyone had a LO with a cough yet? and what have you done?
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 27, 2005, 06:20:33 am
Macaire, spitting up so long after a feed could be reflux, but I think you'd find Ben was quite fussy as well (check out the Reflux forum with the Sticky at the top on the signs).  Both my kids were/are constant spitters even up to their next feed time but neither are bothered by it, so I haven't done anything about it.  Nathan outgrew it by around 8mths.

Danielle had a really bad hacking/phlemy cough a few months back, I didn't actually do anything special for it though and just let it run it's course - it took about 10days to disappear (I took her to the doctor on about day 9 just to get her checked out anyway).  I did watch for problems with breathing and also if a fever develops then definitely worth getting checked out.

Well waiting for DH to get Nathan into bed and it's take-aways night tonight.  Oh the simple pleasures! :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 27, 2005, 08:45:01 am
Hi everyone, I'd nearly finished writing a post to you all before, and DH accidently switched user on the computer and lost what I'd written. Grrrr.... probably lucky for you though as this won't be so long.  :oops:

We had a great day, Daniel did go to sleep pretty quickly for his first nap, only about 5 mins of crying/settling, still more than usual though. Then slept for 2 hours. DH and I went in to wake him at 2 hours to find him happily playing in his cot (as much as he can when he doesn't roll and is in a sleeping bag). I wonder how long he'd been awake?!? Ahh, he was happy so it doesn't really matter I guess. :lol:

He had his Pixi Photo Studio free photos taken today. As his Grandad is a Chief Fireman, I thought it appropriate to get a photo taken with fireman props. Oh so cute! A helmut, hose, gumboots and firetruck. We get one photo for free 8 x 10inch then the rest pay silly exhorbatent prices for, if we want more. We'll probably just get the free one and maybe one more small one.

OMG - do I feel like a bad mum. Just had to go and see to Daniel as he woke crying/fretful scream. Teeth - I say to myself. So off I run with the teething powder to administer. Now, he seems to be liking it, so I tried to give it to him, he's screaming so much and arching his back I couldn't get him to take it calmly. So, when he opened his mouth to cry I 'poured' in the powder. BIG MISTAKE He inhaled at the same time and swallowed the powder!!! It should disolve first!!!!! You are meant to either administer as a powder or you can put it in a little water. So next time, I'll use some water. He started choking!!!! I leaned him forward and kind of patted his back, as a mum in a panic tries to do. At least it was only powder! But it must have gone down to his lungs, cos when he started breathing kind of normally again, I could hear a wheeze sound. OMG - DH is at work, flying, so can't call him, so all I could do was try to sound reassuring for my poor wee man and giggle and cuddle to try to soothe him. He then would take about 4 breathes then BIG GULPS, then breaths then gulps. I tried to give the magic milk, but he didn't want it, tried water from sipper cup, nope, more gulping. I rang Plunket line (health line for kids) and by the time a nurse was available a couple of mins later, thankfully he was breathing normally again. While I was telling the nurse what happened and that I think all was now okay, she was trying not to laugh!!! Okay, so now he was breathing okay again, in hindsight it was kinda funny, and it made me relax a little with her laughing, but it was scary at the time. She was very nice and reassuring, and said that if anything at all changed and I was concerned to ring back, but she described it to me like if we inhaled icing sugar and what it would be like. She assured me it would disolve or he would have coughed/gulped it out of his lungs. He's now back in bed after his favourite story and fast asleep. After some normal medicine, just incase the powder doesn't do what it should.  :oops:  :oops:  :oops: Man, do I feel bad.  :cry:

Sorry that's sooo long, but I just had to let it out and I feel better for having told you guys. Kind of like a weight lifted. All this happened while I was just trying to post a hello about my great day!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on October 27, 2005, 09:52:13 am
Hello  :)
Naomi- To reply to your ? I have noticed that Si is starting to grumble wehn we head to her bed...Definitely an awareness of separation stage beginning-I deal with it by-Sometimes putting her down and then I just tell her "lie down Sienna" while her head is up(sleeps on tummy) craning to see me as I leave the room..and she will have a little cry at times, but I don't go back in unless she seems really upset because she knows how to self soothe and will usually be asleep in minutes---at the times when I am in there patting and soothing--I tell Ky when he comes in that Sienna needs me to help her go to sleep and I will be with him as soon as she has calmed down--He understands calming down because he knows what that means--in relation to himself as we have always used that term when he needs to setttle ie tantrum-I also sometimes get him to help me pat her on the bot :wink: 
Some days its just plain chaos with Si crying Ky yelling and me totally frazzled--but hey that is life at the moment!!
Bedtime can be the real witching hour I'm with Judy on that one...My success with a calm evening is an early bedtime for Si (6:30pm most nights) and then I can settle Ky down with his routine...
Take care all
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 27, 2005, 15:11:57 pm
Oh, poor Hayley!  (I'm sure Daniel is okay, so I won't be worried about him.   :D )  Such a scary thing!
I had fun chatting last night...it is confusing though with all the conversations and drink orders flying around.   :wink:
Ryan is cranky again...still not sure if it's the flu or some teeth.  Those gums are getting pretty white and he won't really let us get a good look in there.  We'll have to see how it goes.  Gotta go clean the house since my sil is babysitting here tomorrow so mil and I can both be at the preschool for Sibling Day.  Should be fun!
Love, Kate
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 27, 2005, 16:54:56 pm
Sorry to have missed the chat, but Katie appears to have another cold...I think.  (Kate, I'm with you on not being sure how much of it is sickness and how much is teeth.)  Anyway, she went down at 8 and woke up at 9:30, 10:30, was up pretty much from 12-2:30,and was up again at 4:30, 5:30, 6:30, 7:30 and 8:30 for the day.  Needless to say, I'm hoping she feels better tonight.  :) She's rather snotty today.  Saturday's my birthday, I;m hoping for some sleep. 

Hayley, poor Daniel, I'm sure he'll recover nicely.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 27, 2005, 16:56:23 pm
Hello everybody...

Things are pretty stressful over here with Arwyn dropping her catnap and all. It is a vicious cycle. Not enough daysleep = not sleeping through the night. Not sleeping through the night = very cranky baby. Very cranky baby = not having long naps. Not having long naps = not enough daysleep.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll: It is hard enough trying to adjust for the time change next week without working through this too!!

Naomi... totally hear you on the pd & screaming situation. Arwyn used to need no wind down other than going into her room, telling her it was time for a nap and putting her down in her crib with a kiss. NOW... she crys as soon as her body touches the mattress... sometimes before as she realizes she is going into her crib. I have to HOLD HER DOWN on the mattress and HOLD HER HEAD when she actually stops fighting me. She will still resist but not so that I feel I am being a mean mommy. Then she will cry very loudly as I pat (and sometimes shush) until she falls asleep. I am hoping it is developmental and her "old" self will come back. :roll: I really hate making her cry. I need to hold her for a while until she stops crying and then as soon as I put her back in her crib, it starts all over again until I feel I can start to hold her down. Sorry I don't have any advice about more than 1 child...

Traci... great page! I love to scrapbook but have not done so since my pregnancy! Your friend will be so touched that you personally made something for her daughter's first birthday.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 27, 2005, 18:58:49 pm
hey girls,

Judy-thanks for pointing out the bit about the saliva-never thought of it.
Erin- I thought he'd take it no problem but today did just an ounce.  Nope!  At least it's not all gone to waste, thanks for the reminder ( i had done it before)

Hayley-sorry about your accident with Daniel-hope he's fine.

ankie-hugs, that sounds tiring.  maybe she is bothered now by the pat and shush?  that's all i can think of.  have you tried giving her 5 minutes on her own to settle?  Cole gets more frustrated when I'm with him I think.  He woke hysterical last night after being down 3 hours.  Did PUPD for about 15 minutes and eventually held him until he calmed. Then tried putting him down and he wasn't having it.  I left and although he was VERY unhappy for about 3 minutes he then went to sleep.  I think if i had of stayed he would have been up longer.  When he wakes in the night like that now and it's not close to a feed time I go in and do a few pupds to let him know I'm there, then give him 5 to try it on his own.  I know it's not BW...but works for us.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 27, 2005, 21:54:43 pm
Morning.....

Thanks for your thoughts.... Daniel's okay thismorning, mind you I've got my eyes held open with toothpicks again. He was awake for feeding at 3 & 5am again, then up for the day at 6.30. At least he's happy and well. I'm definitely putting the night wakings that have been happening down to teeth. He was basically sleeping thru, so it can only be that. I wonder why he's feeding so much at night though? Maybe he's still not drinking enough during the day, but what can I do?

Daniel went thru the last week of screaming when I put him down for his first morning nap. Thankfully thismorning he went to sleep without a peep again. Yay!!!!! Only 50 mins sleep but as there was no stress involved I don't care! Hopefully a bigger sleep for his next nap.

DH is going away for the next 3 days (2 nights) so hopefully better nights ahead. Otherwise I'll have to go back to napping when Daniel does and I'd rather just have ME time.

I'd be keen to try the chat thing too, so I'll keep an eye out for when it's happening.

Bye girls! :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 27, 2005, 22:54:07 pm
Can I just say hats off to all of us.  This mom job is hard work.  I have an easy baby and at the end of the day I am just totally wiped out.

I don't know how those of you with two or more do it.  I know it's something that you just learn to adjust for but man, right now I can't even imagine. 

I'll tell you what I think is going on.  DH finally wrote his exam last week.  I think I've been going on adrenaline for 6 months.  All the feedings and night wakings, all the cleaning, most of the cooking etc etc.  Now that I can let my guard down a bit I think I am just flat out pooped!  At the end of the day when Cole goes down I have no interest in cooking, cleaning, working out.  I just want to sit and veg in front of this monitor.  I am so addicted to this place.  Have you seen my post count?  It's embarrassing.

Oh well.  Just thought I'd come here and say, good job girls.  This is the hardest job anyone will ever have and we're all doing great at it :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 28, 2005, 00:03:02 am
Ankie, don't know if it helps with settling, but I have to agree with cole's mum.  Ihave found that James will settle within 3-5 minutes by himself if I am not in the room.  If I stay, it takes a lotlonger, he sits up andI have to put him down.  I now lay him down and say goodnight.  He does do a little scream and I know that goes against BW ideals of leaving them when he is crying, but I think it is more temper than anything else.  Naps I just walk out leaving the door open and at night, I place him in the cot with the night light on and then I say goodnight and turn the nightlight off.  He cannot see me but I do stay in the room (easier than coming in and out).  The last week he has settled in less than 5minutes.  If he still continues after 5 minutes, I do a little pushing motion on his bottom and this calms him.  Of course, this may all change next week.  We are having luck with naps and sleep.  He is going down at 9am and 1pm sleeping anywhere between 1-2hrs.  At night, he is sleeping through from 7pmish to 6:30am and plays till 7am.

I would also like to second Coles' mum on saying I think weare all doing a great job.  Keep up the good work.  James and I are off to mothers group today.  Have a lovely weekend.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on October 28, 2005, 00:04:35 am
HI Ladies,

Did you miss me?  :wink:   I missed you guys, but have had a crazy couple of days and see you all have been having fun without me!  J/K.

Anyhow, sorry I missed the chat last night.  I would love to join in on the chat on Sunday though...9 or 10 EST works for me.

Will try to post later tongiht, just wanted to say hi and hope all is well!

Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 28, 2005, 00:45:02 am
Looks heavenly Bec - where is it?  (You are in Newcastle right??)  I am SO not a camper but I could imagine going there for a picnic  :wink:

So everyone - I know this is a bizarre question but I feel like I would like to get to know you all better.  I will start with a question, which was prompted through some of the posts:

How tall are you and how tall is your DH?

I noticed that Nikki and Ankie are little 'uns, and Andrea, I recall you saying you were tall.  It's a bizzare question but I am just wondering...
(OK, so I wanted to post but not about the baby...)

I am 5'9" and DH is 6'5".  I'm guessing Fraser will be tall!  :D

Reply if you feel like (or call me a weirdo interested in bizarre stuff and tell me to mind my own business if you prefer  :wink:  :D )

Bye for now
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 28, 2005, 01:06:50 am
well I'm 5'1" (well I think I've exaggerated the 1" LOL  :lol: ).  DH is 6'1".  Who knows where these kids will end up.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 28, 2005, 02:01:41 am
hi guys!

I am 5'4" and DH is 5'11" (but he was only 5'6" until grade 11~ 17 years old) so I'm hoping Jackson is taking after him because right now he is barely on the growth charts.  Little stunted shrimp!  :lol:  :shock:

Some of you were talking about 'spills'.  Well Jack doesn't normally but today we had a scene out of the exorcist!!!  He had just downed a full 8 oz. bottle then I picked him up with my arm wraped around his belly and out came the full 8 oz.!!! :shock:  :shock:   The dogs were in 7th heaven! GROSS!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 02:07:30 am
i'm 5'4.5"  hee hee. that half inch DOES count.  DH is 5'11"

Cole refused bottle again today.  *sigh*  Don't think i'll go to the halloween party.  no biggie-my BIL will have a halloween party every year-they LOVE halloween.  I'll hang with MIL and watch movies instead. 

good night all/or good morning for those of you on the other side of the globe.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 28, 2005, 02:19:18 am
Hi ladies. First of all LOL Micky about the exorcist scene and the dogs. eewwww!!!

Hayley I am so glad Daniel is OK.  We gave Sophie some tooth gel tonight and it started a major melt down of crying.  DH said he'd rather just hear her little fussing than try to make it better and cause that.  We'll have to try the powder.  And, I totally know what you mean about napping instead of me time! I hate it when i have to do that...it completely sets me off for the whole day and then some.  Good luck without dh around for the new few days.

Thanks for the compliments Traci.  I really needed that. 

Andrea, I did actually miss you.  And I am actually glad you're back.  Looking forward to chatting on Sunday.

Bec- the camp site is amazing!  I am sooo jealous.  Dh and I surf too, or did surf...we haven't been since baby.. but it's always cold and wetsuits here in the pacific northwest.  I hope you have a great time!

OK, I am 5'8"  Dh is about 5'8 and 1/2"  I had a REALLY hard time with this when we were first dating.  I liked to have my men tower over me.  It's just, when that's the only thing holding you back from being with a wonderful person...it just seems a little silly.  I wear a lot of flat shoes now :)

Hugs to Ankie for the yucky day.

OK, here's a little story for ya.  I finally got up the nerve to give Sophie a biter biscuit today.  I gave her one at bfast and dh and I were like oohhh it's so cute, our little baby is growing up yadda, yadda, yadda...so then I decided to give her another one at lunch to hold her off until I had her lunch ready.  She breaks it into a million pieces, eventually after gumming it to death....then I committ the mommy cardinal sin of all and "turn my back for a second"  When I turn around again, she has every piece of biscuit in her mouth and is semi-choking on them!!!  So I had to reach in, grab the mashed up biscuit pieces out of her mouth and do a little baby heimlich-type move to make sure nothing was stuck in there.  She was fine, it was just that her mouth was too full, nothing in her windpipe.  Ach, I was more panicked than she was...but I kept thinking back to first aid class when you are supposed the ask the person "Are you ok? Are you Ok?" And I kept thinking, she can't talk, how will I know if she's truly choking or not??
Alls well that ends well. 
Have a good night
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 28, 2005, 03:41:23 am
Must go to bed...but had to check in with my girlies!!! 

I am 5'7" and dh is 6'5".  I think Ryan is following his papa b/c he's been 97% the last few times and was 90% from birth.  Yikes! 

Hannah...the same thing happened with Ryan and the Biter Biscuits.   :evil:   Evil!!!  At least for now....they'll probably be fine once they can handle more solid foods.  It's the texture I think.  We're doing the Gerber melt in your mouth things and it's much better.  Even if he starts to "choke" it melts before I start to freak.  It is so scary, though, isn't it? 

Thanks, Traci, for the compliments...right back at you.  It made me smile when you said that Cole is such an easy baby...made me remember your first few posts and how much trouble you were having.  You've come a long way, baby!   :wink:   Thank God for Tracy Hogg and my "imaginary friends!"  (Whoever's dh said that, it is now how I keep thinking of you.  I must come up with something else!)

Okay, off to dreamland! Have a great day!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 28, 2005, 03:44:53 am
Hannah - I know just how you felt. It must have been a 24hour baby choking/spluttering 'bug'. LOL. I found out from a friend today that she uses the weleda teething powder but commits a cardinal sin (in fussy people's eyes) and licks her clean finger then dips that into the powder and rubs that on baby's gums. So I tried that and it was a lot easier. Just did it 2-3 times to get enough in there. Daniel didn't like it at first but then next minute he was sucking my finger to get the stuff off.  :lol:  :D  :lol:

As for my measurements.... well, height anyway, I'm 5ft 4.75inch and I totally agree with Traci, every little bit of height counts when you want to be taller.  :lol: DH is 6ft so I'm sure Daniel will take after him. He's in the top 80% for his age and height.

Yay, finally after 2 x 50 min naps today Daniel just slept 1.5hours again. I managed to do some jobs AND have a 30 min nap. A little longer for me would have been better, but I spent too long talking to my friend about her daughters 1st b/day party next week. She had been to some 1 yr old parties recently where they played games and gave our little gifts to all the kids when they left. We decided that at 1yr old they don't need either, the party is more for the adults, bubbly and nice food! But at 2years, that's a different story. Now I hope I haven't offended any mums who have done that for a 1st b/day party, but it just wasn't for her.

Bec - that place looks like heaven. How wonderful. Enjoy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 28, 2005, 04:21:04 am
Well, I'm 5"1 and dh is about 6".0.  James is already 71cm long (he was 51cm at birth) so not sure who he will take after.  James looks like his dad but with my colouring. 

Hope everyone north of the border has a lovely (?) Halloween.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on October 28, 2005, 05:42:38 am
My height 5'7" DH 6'6"
Nikki-thanks for the info on the barfing and coughing
Micky-Cooper, our dog, enjoys vomit tremendously.  Today he had it all over his face!  I just can't get it cleaned up fast enough and every time he hears even the slightest barfing sound he is right in his face. :?
Hayley-so glad everything is better. 
Traci-you deserve a huge relaxation and break from everything, hoping you can have a mini break from things
Bec-great to hear that you are going camping
Here is my choking story.  I made green beans and thought I pureed them enough.  Well... I assumed that Ben was just having problems with the texture.  After red eyes, tears, an open mouth and more open mouth I took him out of the high chair, tossed the beans and looked up the hemlich remover.  I took infant CPR but I can't remember a thing. 
Happy weekend to all of you. 
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 28, 2005, 06:07:58 am
Ooooh, feeling for you gals with the choking.  I had to do the heimlich with Nathan at this age, and even Danielle a few weeks back was choking on her cracker too - fortunately it was just in the back of her throat and was freaking her out a bit.

Hayley I always wondered that about the teething powder (I use individual remedies instead) a friend of mine had the same problem, and it reminds of when we were kids and there was that sherbert that you could buy in paper bags and suck up through straws - used to scare me to bits!  Glad that Daniel is ok.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 28, 2005, 06:25:35 am
Nikki - what's an individual remedy? Where's it from and does it last a while or just for a few hours?

Incase any of you kiwi's were watching Cambell Live tonight (Friday) and saw the part about childrens art, the little boy (with the gold head band?!?) who they spoke to mostly was my cousin's son! The one who said about painting circles for his mum and dad. What a surprise I got to see him on tv. He's a star!  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 28, 2005, 08:23:07 am
Hayley, the teething powder is made up of about 4-5 remedies if I remember rightly - so it's basically going to get lucky with one of them.  But what I prefer to do is prescribe a remedy based on the specific symptoms at the time.  Chamomilla is probably the #1 teething remedy and when kids are likely to have (but not necessarily all of) one red cheek, they're oversensitive, unbearable pain, green poo, kids are clingy and only quiet when held.  Pulsatilla, aconite and belladonna are good too but with slightly different symptoms.  I just have a little first aid kit which has about 24 remedies in it that I use for acute (first aid type) things without needing to visit the homeopath.  Health shops stock the remedies individually as well, you can repeat it for as long as the pain is there (perhaps every 15mins if you like - similar to the instructions on the powder bottle).

I didn't see Campbell Live, how neat to have your little cousin's son on there.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 28, 2005, 11:59:52 am
Hi Ladies,

I have finally caught up (at work :oops: ) I came in early this am to read all the latest posts and hopefully reply!!

I am 5'6 & DH is 6'2, dh is also what i would classify as 'willowy', he would throttle me if he knew I used that term to describe him.  Anyway I am hoping Sophie is long and willowy (like her dad heehee)!

I also have given sophie the biter biscuits and like Ankie she noe already knows the term 'cookie'!  I usually only give them to her when we go out.  We plunk her in a high chair and give her a cookie, although it is very messy and I have also had to pull chunks out of her mouth and give her a good clap on the back a few times, she loves them(gerber biter biscuits).  I forgot who said but she also likes the melt in your mouth puffs.

I had a scary choking moment when I gave her a slice of melon thinking she would just suck/gum it, well 1st thing, she  bites a huge hunk off the end and swallows:shock:  I also seemed to stay calm, picked her up flipped her upside down and clapped her on the back!  My DH had never understood truely how baby heimlich worked so good thing he got a demo!!  I had to hand her to DH, I was shaking so badly afterwards!

Micky - I second the ewwwww, dogs will be dogs!

Kate - Sophie too is seeming frustrated being confined and she does laps of her crib before falling asleep but we have yet to experience a meltdown, so no advice here.

Traci - Right back at you babe!!  Get some rest!

I too now refer to you as my imaginary friends, who's DH said that, it seems to have stuck.  My god, I had better get back to work!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 28, 2005, 12:34:46 pm
Good Morning Ladies

Sorry I haven't been back in a day or so....we were having some computer problems,  I still have to go back and get caught up on all of you and how you are doing.  I will post again later.

Brady's day yesterday was up at 5:00, bf at 5:30, cereal at 6:00, starting to show sighns of sleepiness, a little after 7am, so  quiet time and in bed by 7:30. Wake at 9:30, bottle, 10am cereal, play time, floor time etc, started nap time at 12pm. didn't fall asleep until 12:30, slept for 30 minutes. Wouldn't go back down until almost 4pm, I was so stressed about missing his nap window, and he only slept for 40mins.

We then had our supper, bottle etc. Wind down time, story time, etc
put to bed at 7pm, but wouldn't fall asleep until 8m.  Slept through till 11pm, and from there he was up every hour on the hour.  I can't seem to stop the df, and if I do at 10-11, he's up at around 3am for sure for bf,

We slept today from 3am till 7:30, now going by his schedule, he should have got up at 6:30, but I was tired and fell asleep too, so we got of schedule,   Ive come to the realization that p/u p/d makes Brady's reflux worse, so that is not an option for us.  Going to try the pat/shh and hopefully it will work.  Trying so hard to maintain a routine.  I know its one nap at a time though. 

Hope you are all doing well, and I'll go back and get caught up soon.

Holly - Mom of Brady-born 4 weeks early - March 20/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 12:48:46 pm
Hi Holly-what a relief to see you.  I was getting worried to be honest.  Stick with it...sounds like you're making progress.  Did I see a two hour morning nap there from 7:30-9:30?  If so that's great.

Don't beat yourself up about the 7:30 wakeup, especially when he's having rough nights.  I know Tracy says to be rigid about the schedule the first few days but you need your rest too in order to follow through kwim?

remember that pat/shush might aggravate him.  i have been snooping on your other posts and i think someone gave you some good advice about just laying your hand on him and talking or something?  pat/shush might work...just be aware it may keep him awake.  he can understand your tone and words now so maybe just repeat "it's okay, it's okay, time for sleep, it's okay" or something like that in low tone.

also, is your windown consisent?  be sure to do the same thing every time.  He will eventually catch on that it's time for sleep.  I walk in the dark room now and Cole is ready for the crib.

Stick with it, you're doing great!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 28, 2005, 14:08:14 pm
Hi Traci, yes that was a two hour nap yesterday....Yeah!!!!! Best one yet. :D 
Yes I was thinking about the pat/shush bothering him more as well, but concerned with the p/u pd as well making him throw up more etc.  I think I may try the one suggestion  about laying my hand on him and speaking to him in a low voice etc...our winddown is the same....he has his bottle or bf, then we go to his room, sit in the glider for a bit, I sing 3 versus of mocking bird, turn on the white noise cd and then put him in his bed...sleepy....but our problem arises the minute he's put down. He'd sleep in my arms, with me, but doesn't like to be on his own in his crib.

Had Brady to see a Chriopractor this morning. Some one told me it would help with his reflux, and well, I'll try anything as long as its not hurting him....they didn't "crack" anything...just massaged a bit etc.  Maybe with that and his meds we can get the reflux under control and then stick with our routine, and we'll be on our way......here's hoping...

Holly - Mom to Brady - born 4 wks early - 03/20/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 28, 2005, 14:12:07 pm
Traci, I love what you said back in your other post about hard jobs being moms etc...sure is, and I agree with you 100%, and boy is it worth it though.  I treasure every moment no matter what our day or night is. :)

You deserve some rest now, taking on everything yourself.  you need some well deserved R&R....

I do hope you will be able to make it to your Halloween party, I know you think you may not....but here's hoping.... :wink:

We have a Halloween party this weekend as well, but won't be making it, not while trying to establish this routine with Brady. There's always next year....

Holly - Mom to Brady - born 4 wks early - 03/20/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 14:48:08 pm
hey Holly- I mentioned the chiropractor at the mall :D   I remember you saying someone else had told you about it too.  Hope it helps.

okay girls, we are on day 5 of carrots.  He seems to be spilling (love that term) a lot more the last couple of days.  Not sure whether it's the carrots or just a touch of reflux.  Ped.  said it can come and go.  I was going to start potatoes or sweet potatoe tomorrow but I wonder if I should stick with carrots for a bit and see whether it might be related?  Any of you find this happens?  I would think it would have happened on the first or second day if it was an issue but maybe that's why they say to give it 5 days.  Called DH at work and he said he fed him 2 Tbsp...so no more than the last couple of days.
He also doesn't seem to want to eat too much at the 10 and 2 BFs.  Unless he's just so occupied with playing and manages to gulp it down faster?  maybe that's what's causing the spilling?

oh, I don't know, now i'm rambling.

as for resting...I have spa day tomorrow!  lunch and 1.5 hour massage with my girlfriends.  MIL coming to help DH.  I'm not worried about his 2 pm feed, if he doesn't take the bottle they can make him some milky cereal.  He didn't feed on sunday when i went shopping and slept through the night!  maybe that's the secret :wink:

oh, and i forgot to report we had our first solid-like poos yesterday!  hee hee, the things we get excited about.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 28, 2005, 15:13:45 pm
Hi Traci - I wish I had some advice for you about the carrots, but Brady spits up everything...so I'm not sure....we find it hard to know if there is anything else going on due to his reflux and constant spitting up.  Sorry I'm not more help.  Great you are having a spa day tomorrow...good for you..... :D



Well Brady is back up again...only 35 minute nap now...what am I going to do with my baby boy :cry:  :?   I tried laying my hand on his back, comforting him....soothing him....he's hysterical....then tried p/u pd, and he fights me, and in the book it says, dont fight a fighting baby, put them back down, so I did and tried the pat/shush, laying my hand on his back, and telling him its okay etc....nothing!!!!! :?


Holly - Mom to Brady - born 4 wks early  -03/20/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 15:31:39 pm
Holly-remember, only try to put him back down for 40 minutes or until his next feed.  Take him out for 10 minutes and do quiet play on the floor or something, then try again.  You're trying to teach him that he sleeps at this time.  It will take a while for his body clock to change and understand what it's supposed to be doing (sleeping)

feel free to PM, email, or call me if you have questions.

btw...i'm heading to Pickering town later if you wanted to meet up.  I know you may want to stay home but you might also want to get out and maybe have Brady catnap in the stroller.  let me know.

i forgot to tell you ladies of more developments.  Cole has climbed the entire staircase twice today.  6 steps then a landing, 3 spiral steps then 6 more steps!  Also, he discovered his shadow while on the landing this morning, and LINT on the stair just now.  GREAT-now I really gotta get vacuuming.  The one thing i was happy about was that he wasn't picking up dirt off the floor :?

nikki, naomi, judy...how do you teach them to get down from standing?  he was standing in his crib this morning at 5:15.  both doors were closed so i'm afraid he was stuck for maybe 15 min b/c i didn't hear him? :oops:  :oops:  i just take his hands off what he's holding on to, make his bum stick out, say down then make him sit.  any advice?

also, he has started pinching my arms and boobs while feeding...HARD.  anybody else experiening this?

thanks
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 28, 2005, 16:32:02 pm
Just a quick post, I got the job, I start on nov.28th. My official title is junior travel sales consultant.
Thanks for the vibes, thoughts and prayers girls.
Just to be quick, are we starting the chat at the usual time but on sunday?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 28, 2005, 16:34:11 pm
Height:  I'm 5' 8.5"and dh is 5' 8" (he used to quite sensitive about it) or I was - after a day of carrying these two I've been known to be an inch + shorter!!

I've read if you double a child's height at 18months that's how tall they're supposed to be as adult.

Nikki -thanks for the tip on Aconite - never considered it for teething before but makes good sense.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 16:43:56 pm
Let me be the first to say CONGRATULATIONS NAOMI!

that is so great.  what are you doing with the los?  your friend watching p/t, f/t?

and it sounds as though regular chat time would be good.  is that 9 EST?  is that the zone i'm in.  who knows?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 28, 2005, 17:16:23 pm
Morning ladies.  I have soo much to say, for a change! :roll:

Congrats to Naomi!! You must be so excited.  Can't wait to talk more about what it's like to be a working mom.  I'll be going back shortly after you start.

Judy---glad to hear I'm not the only one with a shorty for a dh  :D

Happy to hear that I am not the only one choking my child :wink:

I cannot believe COle is doing stairs already!!!  Sophie has discovered shadows as well and is very entertained by her own and ours.

Holly- good work with Brady.  A two hour nap wow!  Keep it up.

OK, so, I have a few rants.  Aw shoot, little tiny girlfriend is awake...she's been a bit of a squealer lately...we think she sounds like a cat in heat!!

I guess my rants will have to wait until later.   I am going to shove her in the stroller and take her little booty out for a run!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 28, 2005, 17:44:43 pm
I have just had my WORST night EVER! Arwyn has NEVER done this before, including when she was a newborn! She was up almost every hour from the time I put her down (6 pm) until 6 am at which time I gave up putting her back to sleep.

Okay... because she has been dropping the catnap, she usually falls asleep on the breast and has been for the past 12 days or so. I don't like this but until I/she adjusts her nap times properly, she just can't stay awake. Anyhow, she goes down at 6 pm and wakes up SCREAMING at 7:35. I give DH 15 minutes to put her back down but it doesn't ease up at all so... I go in at 7:50 and sit in the rocking chair with her. She doesn't really stop crying so I offer a breast... she falls asleep... I put her in the crib... she starts SCREAMING again and getting up on all fours. I keep putting her down for about 5 minutes... not working... so... I do pu/pd... not working... I then hold her to calm her down... she starts getting sleepy and I put her down again in her crib... starts SCREAMING again! I hold her again... try the crib again... doesn't work... offer the second boob, falls asleep and I hold her for another while... I put her down and she starts crying but I am able to pat her back down.

REPEAT ALL NIGHT LONG EVERY 45 MINUTES or if I am lucky, 1 HOUR. After about the 2nd waking, I put her on the futon in her room and slept with her the rest of the night. Even though I still had to pick her up and stand up to calm her down, at least I didn't have to go to her room. I can't believe it... I haven't slept with her through a night since she was 10 weeks old and we moved her to her own crib.

I had to nurse her to sleep for her first nap this morning and she started crying when I took her off after 20 minutes so... more accidental on purpose parenting... I let her stay latched on for her whole nap! :shock: At least it was 1 hr 30 min so I got a little bit of sleep too... although I am a bit of a pretzel sleeping with her! She is currently being a real cranky one so I have to go but I really needed this vent. I am exhausted and really frustrated that my very good sleeper has disappeared. I used to have a wonderful self-soothing sleeper who woke only once in the night to feed at 4 am... I want her back!

BTW, I think it is teeth as she just cut her first tooth yesterday. In the morning it was still gums and by the evening, it was through. I hope that is it because I can't take another night like last night.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 28, 2005, 19:12:28 pm
Oh Ankie, hugs to you.  I am sure it is teeth and your good sleeper will be back soon.

Do what you have to do to make it through, this won't last forever.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 28, 2005, 19:30:13 pm
Hugs Ankie! Hang in there!
Hayley, got some teething powder yesterday at the Parent and Child Show but have not had to use it yet. I will have to stick to combos as have no idea what individual remedy to use!
On the choking front, found a "safe feeder" at the show yesterday and gave Sam a prune without worrying about him choking. Here is the website if anyone is interested..
http://www.babysafefeeder.com/
Alternatively, you could wrap stuff in muslin..a girlfriend of mine does that but then, the babies would not actually have anything to swallow KWIM?
Oh, saw your cousin's boy on TV last night. Too cute! Made us laugh and very talented!!!
I am 5' 5.5 and dh is 5'7 so not much between us. Sam however is 71 cm and is over the 97th centile in length.
Have a good day all and enjoy the chat Sun/Mon
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 28, 2005, 19:30:48 pm
(((HUGS))) to you, Ankie!    It just has to be those teeth...I'm sure she'll be back to normal in no time!

(((HUGS))) to you, Naomi!  Congrats on the job!  We knew you'd get it!   :D

Well, my sil babysat for Ryan today and he got 30 MINUTES of sleep from 7:20 am-2 pm!  WTF?  I left a detailed set of instructions.  He "didn't want to sleep", so he didn't go down until 11 (instead of 9:15 or 9:30 as I told her), which is when he should have had his bottle...so of course he's starving and won't sleep long.  For some reason, she didn't give his bottle 'til 12:30!  Poor baby.  (Probably b/c I told her he usually sleeps for 90 minutes?) Then, I got home at 1:40 or so and she hadn't given him lunch.  I clearly stated solids about 30-45 minutes after the bottle.  Ugggh!   :x   Well, it WAS nice of her to sit with him and a bit of a wake-up call about babies for her, I think.  He went right down after eating and hasn't made a peep since!  Okay, thanks for the vent...don't want to tell anyone but dh or I'll seem like an ingrate. 

Have a great weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 28, 2005, 19:41:39 pm
Congrats Naomi!!!!!

Ankie - my first thought was definitely teeth.  Zoe always had a couple horrendous nights with every single tooth.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 19:57:05 pm
big hugs Ankie.  Hope things are back to normal for you soon.  We're currently fighting the catnap right now too.  It is getting later and later in the day.  He's currently trying to settle and it's 4pm.  I used to have him up by 3:45!!

Karen-I've seen this safe feeder at a store i go to.  So you recommend it?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 28, 2005, 20:37:37 pm
Goodmorning, just a quick hello while I'm letting Daniel settle (I hope) for his first nap. It's not going to well though yet.

Holly - I've taken Daniel to a homeopath for his reflux. It improved it immensly. I"ve just tried thismorning dropping his normal meds as I've beena little nervous to do so before this. But his spilling improved once he'd seen the h-path compared to just being on medication alone.

Traci - regarding the carots and spilling, you could perhaps stop the carots and see if the spilliing decreases, if it does, give him the carots again and see if it comes back. Then you'll know it's the carrots. I have hears that persisting with something that aggrivates them doesn't necessarily improve the situation, but leaving the 'said item' then going back to it can help. Just a thought.

Naomi - huge congratulations! Well done. That deserve a celebration shop. :D

Karen how was the how? Did you get lots of free stuff? I love the shows but I don't know if the one here in P.NOrth will be very good. I haven't been to one here before, only Auckland and Wellington.

Well, once again another 2 night waking for Daniel, 3am and 5.30am, and now he's not settling too well. I thought he'd gone of to sleep but started up again, and now quietening again. Hopefully he'll get a big 1.5hour sleep and get back on track.

I'm really frustrated (with myself - not him) that he's waking again. The only thing different is I don't think I've had the heater on in his room. When he goes down it's 20 degrees C in his room, but when I go to him in the morning it's only 15 degrees. So maybe it's that. Back to the heater on tonight! He's taking a big feed so the other thing is maybe he's not having enough milk during the day, but if he feeds 4 hourly there's no room for an extra feed. He slept 6 nights thru, so I know he can. Grrrr, sorry, just had to moan & vent.

We're going to Auckland next week and boy is it going to be busy. If he's off routine now, it may be worse shortly! I should be able to keep his naps and bedtime the same, but where he'll be sleeping may change a bit. The first 3 nights we'll be and mum and dad's then the next 3 in a different house each night. Oh well, I'm sure he'll adapt. He's fairly adaptable now, so let's hope he continues. If anything it will be the 6-7 hour car trip that will throw him off track. I'm around until Monday night then after that I'll probably only check in once in a while. I'll be back though!  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 28, 2005, 20:42:25 pm
Congrats Naomi!

(((Hugs))) to you Ankie....I'm so sorry...I can relate, your story pretty much sounds like mine with Brady.
I think on top of everything else, he is cutting teeth  and its so painful for him as well. 

Any suggestions on teething medications from anyone?

Traci - wow, Cole is climbing stairs?!  Great...makes me wonder if Brady is behind then, he's just sitting on his own now, not crawling or anything?! :?

Karen & Traci - I recently bought the safe feeder for Brady as well, I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but good to know that it works well.

Holly - Mom to Brady - Born 4 wks early 03/20/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 28, 2005, 20:47:01 pm
Hayley -

I'm sorry to hear Daniel is off track with his routine. I hope things get back in order for you soon.  Thanks for letting me know about the homeo path as well, maybe we can try that too.  We had hime to a chriopractor and I want to see how that will go for now, but will check into the homeopath as well, can't hurt.  Glad to hear that It helped Daneil out.

Holly - Mom to Brady - born 4 wks early - 03/20/05
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 28, 2005, 20:47:34 pm
So many people I wanted a comment for... sorry about not getting to it in a timely fashion but we have had a couple of rough days and nights.  :roll:

Naomi... CONGRATS on the job! Imaginary glass of wine/champagne/martini, whatever you like is raised to you!

Hayley... how scary about the teething powder! We don't have it here I don't think?? Or maybe I've never heard of it. Glad that Daniel is okay!

To all you who have near choking incidents... Arwyn gets her cookie broken in all sorts of pieces too but is able to keep it out of the back of her throat so far... Not so with the Cheerios though. She mushes them all up (I think?) and sometimes she doesn't get them mushy enough and she gags. She always just coughs a few time and turns all red around her eyes and her nose goes red but she has always recovered. I have my fingers crossed that those would be the worst she ever experiences.

SO, it is after her 2nd nap (40 minutes after being nursed to sleep) and mommy is still exhausted and baby is playing. I made a shaker out of a clean PB jar and put some popping corn in it. She is very amused, picking it up and throwing it out of her walker.

Ta ta for now... wish me luck for a better night. I am still in my PJs and so is Arwyn. It is just that kinda day.  :roll: At least we are both ready for bed tonight!  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 28, 2005, 20:57:43 pm
Naomi, congrats on getting the job!  :D

Traci, what I did when Nathan learnt to stand, was guide his hands down the rails, making him poke his bum out and he eventually got it figured out.  I did it a lot in his cot during activity time so he did it over and over during the day.

Well Danielle woke at 7.40am this morning, bliss!  I very (only VERY briefly) considered getting her up at 7am LOL.  Since she only has a 45min nap in the morning, it actually works in our favour that she wakes later, then goes down for her nap at 9.30 - means there's less of awake time until her 2nd nap - not that it seems to affect her either way.  :?   Her night feed was at 4am, which always seems to make her sleep later than if it was around 1-2am then she's up at 6.30am.

Re US teething powders - I've heard of Hylands being mentioned on this board and it is homeopathic.  Can anyone confirm that?

Right, we're starting our 100% gluten free diets this weekend.  From my reading Nathan's terrible night wakings are likely linked along with his constand hankering at me for food - my god, this child is constantly telling me he's hungry I'm sick of hearing it.  Hopefully he starts to grow soon and catches up to his friends again.  Just not looking forward to the pre-school challenge with keeping food/dirty hands to himself/themselves.  Even playdough for goodness sakes is going to be a mission!

Have a good day/night everyone.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 28, 2005, 21:00:23 pm
Congrats Naomi!!!  How very exciting!!  I hope you enjoy your new job!

Ankie!! :shock:  :shock:  Your night sounds horrendous!!  I hope you have some better ones coming soon!!  And if those are your normally nights Holly- :shock:  :shock:  :shock: -I would be in tears!!!

As far as the choking thing....Jackson also had a choking fit yesterday on a goldfish cracker...I should have known better!! :oops:  :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 28, 2005, 22:10:38 pm
OK, first of all can I just say that every time I read a post and I am not having that particular problem/situation and I think to myself, "phew, I am so glad I am not having to deal with THAT" (of course all the while sending hugs and good vibes to those of you who do) Then all of a sudden that problem/situation magically shows up at my house within days!!

Like the zits...it's like the mere mention of them brought on a major attack.  I'm 32! Enough already!

And the weight.  I was doing so well, running, loosing etc, etc, and although I don't weigh myself, I defnately noticed the jeans were a LITTLE tight this morning.  And no I didn't dry them too long...it is more likely a result of the fact that about all I have been eating in the last few weeks is crackers with Sophie's left over mashed avocado on them.  Hmmm.  Sometimes I wonder HOW I am going to be a good role modle for this girl and eating! 

So now I am bracing myself for a night like Ankie's to show up at my door...BTW Sophie and I have spent MANY days in our PJ's...Hope things are better tonight.

OK, so a little more ranting from me.

It's about my IL's.  After Sophie was born SIL and MIL were incredibly gimmie gimmie.  MIL was offering to take her for the night before she was even three months old!  I swear I had to beat them off with a stick at all family gatherings...and we tend to ahve a lot of them so things were getting really stressful for me.  Anyhow, I finally asked dh to talk to them, explain that I am a private person, and I need a little space.  I asked him to explain to them, in a nice way, that if they would just back off a little, they would see that I would offer Sophie up more..for cuddles and babysitting etc.  But with all the hovering, all I wanted to do was hold her closer.
Never thought I would be so possessive, but hey, I guess I am.  OK, so a little more background.  I love my IL's.  They are the most generous, most jkind do anything in the world for you kind of people.  BUT they are different from my family.  They are from a small town, we are from a big city.  They are very close as a family, we are not.  They have fostered some amount of dependence in their family (some helathy some not) wereas my family was all about being independent..too much so at times.
OK, so, recently, I asked my friend to take SOphie when I go back to work.  She has a 3 year old and is lookign to make a little extra money without having to go back to teaching.  She was happy to take her.  I was incredibly relieved, she is like my family.  She will be loving etc.
Anyhew...come to find out that SIL (40 years old, no job, was a sahm, now kids are grown) was offended that I didn't ask her...since she has the time.
MIL told her it's because she's a smoker.  Which is, actually high up there on my reasons why.  And there are lots of others too.  Mainly, she has made no effort to have a realtionship with me.  She never even asked me what we were planning on doing with SOphie when I go back to work, and she thinks I am just going to ask her?? In my mind it would be like asking a stranger, except that I DO know that she would be loving etc....
SO, sorry this is so long.  I emailed MIL and told her I had heard that SIL was miffed and asked if she had any suggestions for what I should do.  Mind you hat MIL wasn't exaclty thrilled with the way I was with SOphie either but after dh talked to her she was very understanding and overall respectful of my wishes, which of course has brought us much closer!!  Anyhow, she wrote back and said that SIL had hurt feelings from after Sophie was first born about the way I was with her...I can remeber one time when S was crying at a family function and I wanted her back so that I could comfort her.  SIL swoops in and says "Oh she just needs her aunty" and I was like "no she just needs her mommy, or her mommy needs her..." Whatever, just let me have my baby!
Do I sound totally crazy?
So, now I know that SIL is wanting to take Sophie on some of the days when she won't go to my friends (she'll go there alternating 4 then 3 days a week, at MIL's the other day).  I need to develop a relationship with her so that I feel comfortable letting her do this.
I think I am going to just call her up and invite her over for lunch...not say anything about the hurt feelings etc, but just make the first move to get a realtionship going.
Any other ideas? Anyone deal with similar issues? 
Again, sorry for the loooooong rant, but really needed to get it out.  I've talked to a few friends here, but none really seem to understand...
Thanks for listening.
hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 28, 2005, 22:11:57 pm
Hi Ladies

Ankie {{{{{HUGS}}}} sounds like a terrible night but also sounds like a developmental thing, definately not a regular thing for your fab little sleeper, it will be a better night tonight!!!

Naomi - CONGRATS!!!!!!! I knew you would get it!!

Kate - Bummer about the SIL and isn't it too bad that going out couldn't have been made perfect by coming home to a well fed and rested baby!!I knew I had to set/write a specific feed/sleep schedule for the nanny and sitters, which has been in effect on our house for 3 months.  I found before I went back to work if people came to stay with Sophie they did not understand what I meant by 'her routine' but they didn't have trouble understanding a specific time for feeding etc....  I know it is difficult and you probably don;t want to sound like a 'mommy knows best' but i think you DO know best and people do not mind having specific direction regarding watching your lo.  Plus you won't have the 'aftermath' to contend with.

Traci - Sophie 'spills' all the time.  I also only gave her 2 days before I moved on to a new food :oops: , I am having another 'bad mommy' moment !!  I was just watching for allergic reactions!

Holly - It is tough to find a way to help your lo to sleep but I think success comes with consistency.  If you find you are always changing a soothing technique it may be more of a hinderance KWIM?  I say half your battle is finding a soothing technique that you are comfortable with and sticking with just that.

On a VENTING note, they are still trying to talk me into staying at work *sigh*  there are numerous owners all taking their turn at me, I just don't have the energy.  Can't I even quit a job without a hassle????

There are so many others I wanted to comment on but I am spent (PS I am STILL at work 10 hours later UGHHHH)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 28, 2005, 22:25:18 pm
Hannah - Honestly I don't think you need to apologize for taking Sophie back when she cried at family functions.  A crying baby is asking for and NEEDS their mom.  My opinion is if people are offended by that then they need to find a way to get over it. 

Same for babysitting.  I would not leave my children with anyone, not even family, simply because the adult would feel bad otherwise.  First and foremost is my children's well being so unless I know someone well enough to understand their parenting and guiding methods/principles I am not leaving my children with them.  Not to say they would harm them - of course not... but a caregiver is much more influential and spends far more time with children than 'aunty'.  Just because you are family doesn't mean you automatically get to babysit my children.

Honestly, the only family members who ever have and ever will care for my children are my mother and MIL.  And at that, it is for short periods of time.  AND I'm VERY specific in how my children are dealt with, fed, routine etc.. and people don't veer from that.   In fact the other week I was speaking to SIL on the phone.  She lives 30min from us.  MIL was coming here that day to sit with the older girls as I took the babes to the dr..  Anyway, MIL *thought* SIL needed her to sit with her one dd that day as well (she didn't but MIL is easily confused about details) so MIL kept telling her that she would just drive my girls over there and look after all three.  Well I had a fit of laughter and told SIL (who doesn't know me all that well yet) that MIL should know me better by now and there is no way under the sun that she or anyone would be driving my children anywhere.  MIL knew enough not to bring it up to me.

Anyway - a tangent, sorry.  Just saying that you shouldn't need to apologize for the choices you make in regards to your children.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 28, 2005, 22:31:40 pm
Hannah  You are not crazy.  It is 100% up to you to decide who cares for your child.  I think it's a good first step to have lunch with SIL to build a relationship.  Maybe the topic will come up.  Then just gently say that Sophie knows this other family really well and is comfortable there and that they are familiar with your psychotic BW routine LOL!  Seriously, she should understand.  And if she doesn't then that's too bad for her!  If she wants the chance then I hope she'll be sympathetic to your feelings.

Richelle don't worry about the introduction of food thingie.  Annabel Karmel shows on her schedule to try a different food every day. I might actually pick up the pace myself to 2-3 days per food because I would like him to have more variety.  To be honest it's because I bought carrots and haven't had the chance to cook, puree and freeze everything else. It's really just pure laziness on my part :wink:

Hayleygood call on the heat.  I found as soon as I dressed Cole warmer he didn't wake as often

Jo I know you're lurking, just wanted to say hello and hope you have a good weekend.  (well, i guess it's started over there actually!)

looking forward to the chat on Sunday.  It's at the same time as the Wed. night chat so hope that helps everyone. There is a link in the Lounge for those that haven't been there before.

hmmm, have i missed anything?  not sure, memory is terrible.

i'll be back later i'm sure :wink:   heading off to make sweet potato for the boy. By the way, we call him Smuggies, Mr. Smuggies.  I used to call him Bugaboo, then it changed to Smuggaboo...and finished on Smuggies.

Do you all have a nickname for your los??
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 28, 2005, 23:18:25 pm
Hey, all! 
I had to post about nicknames after Traci asked.  Poor Ryan!  He started out as Doodlebug...then Doodle...and now he's stuck with Doodie!   :oops:   (Yes, it IS another name for poop!)  He also has:  Crenshaw, Sweat Sock (since his helmet stank so much!), and some others I can't think of...Doodie's the main one, though. 
Hannah, I totally agree about specific directions...in fact I left 4 pages of directions for my sil.   :shock:   
In case you haven't hear this idea (that I stole from my class as a teacher), you should type up a general day on the computer (with sleepy cues, general play ideas, food/sleep times, etc.), then copy and paste it in a new document for each babysitting assignment.  Then, add or delete as needed for that specific day.  It saves TONS of time instead of writing it out each time.  I'm sure it's not original, but thought I'd share.  Also, leave an Authorization for Medical Treatment in case of emergency.  I have one I can share if you want it.   
Okay, enough of my bossiness.   :)   Later, girls!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 28, 2005, 23:23:00 pm
Hannah - we posted at the same time!!  I sometimes am sooo deperessed at my lack of family support - IL and otherwise and the distance between us but then I sometimes thank my lucky stars.  My MIL came to stay with us on island when sophie was 8 weeks and undid all my independent sleep work in less than a week.  Also my SIL(who is so lovely) does things just completely differently with her LO (6 months older) and I'm sure she feels the same way about me.  I think Sophie is your LO and you need to do for her whatever you need to do and it is no one elses business!!  By the by, Sophie is just Sophie, not Sophia - I can't remeber if I had ever answered you before!

Traci - Nothing lazy aboiut you making food - my goodness, I don't know who said it but they said it best "the good people at Gerber make my babies food" :oops:  :lol: !  Also we call Sophie, Bubbles, Sweet Pea and Cheesehead :oops:

Ankie - I forgot earlier, Sophie's new thing is to look at me and throw whatever she has in her hand on the floor and watch me pick it up! :shock:  and I love the container filled with popcorn kernels!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 28, 2005, 23:58:47 pm
well girls, things are going well here, still can't quite believe that they hired me, I have been waiting 5yrs for a break like this, plus it is a salaried job.
We are still battling the sleeptime blues, it seems like everynight is a different thing, once she is asleep she is fine, it is getting her there that is the problem. I do think that it is seperation and development related.

Her solids are wonderful, although she still likes her food all mixed up, boy those people at heinz who make her food do a good job. :wink:

to everyone we are doing such a wonderful job, are children are growing, are happy and on their way...Well done everyone.

To all the lurkers out there, don't forget our chat on sunday at 9pm EST, it will be a good chance to meet some new faces, kwim.

Traci, your request has been granted, here are some pics of all of Riley's outfit.....Enjoy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 29, 2005, 00:00:09 am
Doodie  LOL poor boy

I forgot to mention i love the container of popcorn kernals too.   what a great idea!  I've also heard of filling empty prescription/tylenol bottles (scrubbed clean of course) with rice.  I think I'll make one of those tonight!

Don't ask me why I put a Mr. in front of everything but Cole has also been:
Mr. Patootie, Mr. Bubbles, Mr. Smidgeon among others I can't remember.  All his toys are Mr.s too. Mr. Duckie, Mr. Donkers (Lamaze Donkey toy), Mr. Doggie, Mr. Bear.  you get the idea.  I think I need some Mrs. in there. hee hee
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 29, 2005, 00:02:51 am
hey naomi...we posted at the same time.  LOVE the tights. so cute :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 29, 2005, 00:22:54 am
Hi - Hannah, I think inviting SIL over for lunch is a great idea. Take small steps before you take the big ones.

Naomi - Doodie is soooo cute. At least when he's older he can just be "dood/dude"

As for Daniel, well, one nick name is fairly obvious.... Little Bear, he also gets Mr Sausage!!!! I know, terrible! :oops: We've got 2 cats and one of them the boy cat is a bit dumb sometimes so we started nicknaming him a 'silly sausage' then Mr Sausage, then for some reason it kind of gets used for Daniel too, not that he's a silly sausage... yet! Otherwise no other nick names. Mmm how boring, oh well, I"m sure they will happen.

How do I figure out what time the chat is on for NZ? Is there somewhere on the site that has all the different times? Sorry, a bit dumb (like my cat) when it comes to these things.

See ya lata aligata's! :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 29, 2005, 00:29:44 am
hayley-this might help you.  I think we're going with NY time...it's 8:30pm on the 28th here right now, and 1:30pm on the 29th for you.  So chat on sunday 9pm for us would start at 2pm monday for you.  Do I have that right girls?

http://www.worldtimezone.com/
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 29, 2005, 00:47:36 am
Hi everyone---

Nikki - Is one red cheek a sign of teething?  I've never heard that and Katie has had one red cheek recently and she is teething so it would make lots of sense.  Learn something new every day....

Ankie - We had ourselves a night like that Wednesday night, last night was better - Katie is teething right now too and is very, very snotty as well.  She keeps waking up b/c she can't breathe - oh, and Wednesday night I think she was cold too, since it was our first cold night.  I now dress her in a long sleeve onesie, two pairs of pajamas, and her sleep sack.  Boy do I wish I could just throw a quilt on top of her and be done with it.   Hope your night is better.  And yes, we've been doing some serious accidental on purpose parenting these days too - this morning I had to go to a conference, so I plopped her in bed with DH and they slept until 9:45 - guess she needed the sleep.

Naomi - Congrats again, and love the pic

Whoever was asking, I'm 5'3.5" (yes, that half an inch counts big for me too  :D ) and DH is 6'4" - Katie has been pretty long so far in all her checkups so I think as of now she's taking after that side of the family - whoever said they expect their LO to be taller than them by kindergarted I'm with you.

Traci - When Katie was tiny and used to cry all the time, we called her Frauline Stinkypants von Noisenheimer.  When I was pregnant, we called her Nubbsy Russell (why, I will never know).  Her middle name is Rose, so generally we call her about a million things followed by Rose, depending on what's going on - Hungy Rose, Sleepy Rose, Tiny Rose (when we look back at her baby pics), Snotty Rose these days with her cold....

Hannah - I definitely don't think you're out of line.  Sophie's your baby, you do whatever you think is best.  I do think lunch with SIL is a good first step though. 

Whoever was asking about teething meds, I just use regular old Tylenol - last night I used Motrin as things were really bothering her.  She's right at the high end for weight for the smaller doseage, but I don't want to move her up yet.  She loves to chew on a frozen washcloth too - makes her very happy. 

Anyway, must run, tomorrow is my birthday and DH is attempting to wrap some presents right now  :D

Have a good day/night all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 29, 2005, 01:07:29 am
Traci, yep that time conversion is right, 2pm for us here in NZ for the chat on Monday (for us).

Erin, yes a red cheek is often associated with teething.  I don't give a remedy just based on that though, D's had a red cheek often but isn't bothered by her teething so far (still no teeth), so I haven't given anything for it.  But if she was fussing without any other reason and had the red cheek I would.

Well I'm super boring then when it come to nick-names.  The only thing I've called Danielle is Missy Pants.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 29, 2005, 01:33:17 am
did i forget to mention they are resurfacing the parking lot of the commuter train next to our house :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:   they have been given an exemption on the noise by-law and will be working non-stop from now until monday morning.  NICE.  right now it sounds like loud white noise so hopefully it won't disturb Cole too much. I just hope I can hear him cry over the din of the machinery. It's a good thing Cole is in the front of the house (lot is in the back)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 29, 2005, 02:01:18 am
Richelle - Thanks for your help, I agree, we need to stick with a soothing routine, its just finding one that seems to work.....btw, what does kwim mean?  Sorry bit slow on that one...lol---sleep deprived.....

Traci - that is so weird...lol....we call Brady bugaboo....I just find it funny with some of our similarities.

Erin - I was asking about the teething meds recently, my last post I think.
Thanks for letting me know what you use. We've been using the frozen face clothes right now as well. He loves them, but it doesn't seem to take the pain away.

Have a  good nite everyone!

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 29, 2005, 02:18:55 am
holly-kwim, know what i mean?  IYKWIM, if you know what i mean.

okay, time for me to get off this thing.  DH just got home from work.  yes, it's after 10pm.   :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 29, 2005, 02:48:22 am
we call Jackson-Jack, Budda, CrabbyJack and Peanut.  Not as original as Erin with Frauline Stinkypants von Noisenheimer!! :shock:  :D  :lol:

I had a good day out today.  MIL came over to entertain Jackson while I went out xmas shopping.  It was fun to get out of the house without Jack just for a few hours...but what was great was when I got home Jack only ate his veggies for lunch and wouldn't take the bottle from MIL.  (He usually has veggies, meat, fruit and a bottle).  As soon as I sat down with him he was grabbing for the bottle  :D  and all smiles when he saw me  :D  Those smiles are worth a million bucks!! :D  :D   I got him a snow suit for the winter.  I'll have to take a pic of him and post it once he tries it on.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 29, 2005, 02:59:00 am
Hi gals...

Arwyn is asleep. WHEW! DH put her to sleep after I nursed her and was still awake. I let her clamp on the boobie to sleep for her catnap... well, to force her to have a catnap so that she wouldn't nurse to sleep. In my silly line of reasoning, I figured it was better that way than to nurse to sleep??? What in the heck was I thinking? Hindsight is 20/20, I tell ya! :roll: Not at my best when trying to figure out which accidental "on purpose" parenting skill to use!

Nicknames... well, most are in Cantonese. In Cantonese, we used to call her "little turtle" -- woo gwai jai because of that very cute newborn neck crane she used to do; "daughter daughter" -- leui leui is the other one and we consistently use that. In Cantonese, it is very popular to use nicknames so... she has a shortened version of her Cantonese name that everyone in my extended family uses - "Yun Yun" and my mom addresses her by her Cantonese name. We also call her "the nut" because when she was in utero, we called her "Peanut"... now, all derivatives of Peanut is acceptable... nutbar, nutcase, freaky nut, etc. DH also used to call her "inside" when she was first born :D , the first time he did that, it made me laugh alot!

Traci... I had to laugh because we add "the" to everything. "the" daddy, "the" mommy, "the" leui leui, etc. but not "the" Yun Yun... don't know why?  :lol: This is before "the" Donald was apparent to us.

We use "leui leui" and "the nut" so much that I don't think she actually knows her real name. If I call her Arwyn, she doesn't look but if I call "leui leui", she does. Oh well...

Will try to join you for the chat on Sunday. It will be 6 pm here and Arwyn could still be up so... I may be late.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 29, 2005, 03:58:15 am
okay, I've sat down 3 times now to write something and I keep getting interupted, so now, here I am.

Nikki - thanks for the info about teething homeopathic remedies. I think I sometimes give Daniel the stuff when maybe, just maybe, he's not really needing it. So I'm trying to hold off again unless I notice a real sign. DH thinks I give him stuff too often too. Bad mummy. Also the time zone info. Thanks. I will hopefully be fine for 2pm on Monday if I'm back from my appointments in town.

Now that I know it's NY time that's easy, cos we have a little thing that rotates on the computer with the time zones for a few key places in the world and NY happens to be one of them. I think that's cos of the stock markets.

Ankie, since you've been telling us about Arwyn's names can I ask you totally out of curiosity, how did you come up with Arwyn? And is Ankie short for something else or is it Cantonese? Do you speak Cantonese at home or english? Sorry for 10 questions, just interested really. I've always wondered how babies/kids learn when two languages are used. Do they instinctively know one is english and the other is in your situation Cantonese? Or do you have to teach them the differences? Especially if both languages are used constantly at home.

Oh, and I want to pick up on a conversation we had pages and pages back (probably just last week  :lol: ) about snugglies, cuddlies etc. After trying to encourage Daniel to have a rabbit that we were given and him not really wanting it, I've discovered that after being wrapped up for so long he wants his wrap to suck on! He was using the sheet, then one day last week I gave him his wrap just beside him in the cot and he grabbed it straight away and started sucking. Now when he goes to bed he reaches for it straight away. So yay, Daniel now has a snuggly to help comfort him. It's quite big, a bassinet sheet, so I might cut it in half or even quarters, allowing for his growth and wanting to cuddle it though. At least if it gets to manky and yuck I can just go and buy another one. They're very common off the shelf brushed cotton. Yay! :lol:

Oh and Traci's mention of acronyms, when you girls talk about AF what are the initials standing for? I know what you're refering to but not the actual letters.  :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 29, 2005, 04:03:06 am
hayley: AF is aunt flow...KWIM??!! 

What does TTC stand for??
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 29, 2005, 04:36:50 am
Aaahhhh that's soooo funny. No idea about TTC.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 29, 2005, 04:44:50 am
ttc is trying to concieve, I must go, it is almost 2am here, I really need to fix this sleep problem of mine,it may take a while tho, the doc says it is mostly due to me working nights for so long.
Nicknames for Riley, she is my princess, I suck at original names, but hannah di come up with one for each of my two, super jay and butter ri ( butterfly like her costume-took me a while to get that for some reason.
Enjoy your weekend girls, and if I don't chat before I will see you on sunday/monday kwim
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on October 29, 2005, 07:27:27 am
Thanks for the heads up on the acronyms.  I was making up crazy things in my head.

We used to call sol "pringle" cause his fingers always smelt like salt-n-vinegar chips.  Then it was "ol man tucker' cause he's always staring people down to the point of mild discomfort.  it was a song from Little House on the Prairie. 

Ahh, the ILs...  I never really understood that these people would become SO involved in my life when I was dating dh.  It might of changed things if I had, like where we live!   :evil:   

I DO love them and all but sometimes... MAN!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 29, 2005, 15:33:35 pm
Hayley... Arwyn is from Lord of the Rings. Spelling is changed to make it more feminine as the original spelling is Arwen. I liked the original too but we put it out there to our family and friends and the "y" won.

Ankie is the Cantonese translation of my name. Instead of translating it into its two syllables and keeping them separate, my mother "anglicized" it. Funny thing about my name is that it is actually Dutch in origin if you look it up in a book.

I speak mostly Cantonese to Arwyn... I was born in Canada myself so my Cantonese is not the greatest but I want her to be able to talk to my parents and my grandmother so I am trying my best to consistently speak in Chinese. While it is not perfect, my DH also uses the Cantonese for everyday stuff like milk, wash your face, eat, sleep.

We also sign (I am a trained Teacher of the Deaf) but that is less consistent. She actually signed "milk" the other day when sitting in her highchair. She was getting very fussy so I thought she wanted more Cheerios... I kept giving her Cheerios and about the 5th one, she was waving both hands around, making all sorts of noise and then I noticed that one hand was signing "milk". Here she was, wanting something to drink and mommy kept feeding her dry Cheerios!  :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 29, 2005, 15:34:48 pm
Nicknames:  Let's see...

Sarah:  Bear, Little Bear, Sarah Bear, Chippy

Zoe:  Zoekins (had that when she was still in my belly), Zee Zee, Princess, ZMasterB (??  dh??  He has nicknames for everyone/everything and rarely make a huge amount of sense :)), I call her Zeezle sometimes but she then tells me "I'm not a zeezle, I'm princess, zee zee or digger" LOL

Nothing has really emerged for Kaia and Hannah yet... Sometimes we call Hannah - hannah banana bear - but honestly I don't like it (but I do it??)  Mostly I just call them "the monkeys" or "little lady friends"

We often use "miss" in front of names or "the" too... many of our friends are "miss donna" "miss erin"  etc..  and DH often refers to himself as 'the dad' and me 'the mom'
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on October 29, 2005, 18:29:27 pm
Thanks so much for all of the responses about il's...makes me feel a lot better to know others feel the same.

Nick-names: Coo-coo-ka-boo, little tiny girlfriend, bug, buggie, buggalah, sweet pea, sophie-dophie, sophie-girl.

BTW I am LOV-ING the nicknames!
Hannah
So fun...especially von noisenhiemer??
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 29, 2005, 19:22:48 pm
ANKIE, quick q, do you have trouble speaking purely cantonese to Arwyn? Love the name by the way! I speak both, switching from one to the other without really thinking about it but perhaps I should just stick to Cantonese....
As for nicknames, we call him "little bird" (in Cantonese) for the way he always has his mouth open when he was a newborn and seemed to want to eat all the time. Sometimes, he is doofus, ratty boy or just ratty...they are meant to be terms of endearment!!! :)
Well our night last night was interesting. Had to keep going in and rolling Sam onto his back again. Seems when he gets there, he wakes himself up and then cannot get back. Found him the other day, jammed up against the edge of the cot, on his belly, with his mouth wrapped around the bar of the cot and he could not move!! :shock:
NIKKI, does the Safe T sleep work or will he get more frustrated? Did you use it with Nathan? If so, till what age?
HAYLEY, loved the show. got lots of freebies and actually bought quite a bit as the show specials were pretty amazing.
NAOMI-congratulations on the job!!!When do you start back?
Well it is back to work tomorrow for me and part of me is really excited but I know that I will miss Sam so much!!! :(
Have a great chat tomorrow.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 29, 2005, 19:33:25 pm
Hi Karen... yes, I have trouble speaking only Cantonese. It doesn't help that DH can't understand it and I feel bad so... sometimes I translate right after. Otherwise, most of the time it is Chinglish... for example, "Do you want more 'nigh nigh'"? for "Do you want some more milk?" I really should speak proper Cantonese :roll: . Hopefully she will is exposed to it enough that she will pick it up. My parents speak only Cantonese to her so my fingers are crossed that she will.

Hope everybody is having a good day/night. I noticed our thread slows down significantly on the weekends! I guess everybody is out enjoying some family time.  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 29, 2005, 19:41:53 pm
Hey, girls.  I'm loving the nicknames, too.  Dh reminded me that I had forgotten to add Stinky Angry.  That came one morning when Ryan was about 6 weeks old.  Dh was leaving for work and Ryan was really mad about something and he had just laid the stinkiest, nastiest turd of his life (up to that point...and then came solids!)  So, he said, "Goodbye, Stinky Angry.  Goodbye, Kate."  And, it stuck.  That might be more mean than Doodie, but at least he'll have options!   :lol:

Am getting ready for a Halloween party tonight...I'm going as Lorelai Gilmore from the Gilmore Girls.  I'm a big fan as are several of the girls who'll be there.  Dh is being a skater, as he has the costume from a few years ago.  Just went to Wal-Mart ( :evil: ) to get a cheapie skateboard and is having the kid across the street break it in for him.  It's pretty cute, actually! 

Happy birthday Erin!
Good luck tomorrow Karen! 
Wishing you all lots of sleep vibes!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 29, 2005, 20:04:45 pm
Ankie, thanks for sharing your name and language information with me. Very interesting. Especially the bit about signing, I've wondered about how effective it is teaching them, obviously it works.

Daniel's having a meltdown thismorning. So am I. I've just tried to put him down earlier than his 2.5hours cos he was yawning and really grizzly, but he screamed so much I've just got him up and put Baby Mozart on. So he's lying watching that. DH is away, back thisafternoon, so I've been looking after him by myself for about 3 days. I don't know how you do it Judy when your DH goes away. Man, there's not enough hats on my head I can take off for you!

The reason for my meltdown is the last night Daniel woke 3 times! I think it was 12.30am, 3.30 and 5.30am. Now the first two wakings I fed him because he wouldn't go quiet unless I did, but at 5.30am he didn't want anything. Gee what a surprise he'd already consumed more than he would during the day feed by then I'm sure. So what else could it be I wondered. I was lying in bed after putting him back in his cot and he started drifting off when he started grizzlying again. Mmmm maybe it's the nappy. So up I get again and change it. Very full, not pooey though. I go back to bed, Daniel goes back to sleep and I lay there wondering. Maybe it's a wet nappy that's waking him all this time???? I don't know how much he weighs now, but at 5 months he was 7.92kg. The nappy takes them up to 11kg. But he's a big wee-er (such a word?) and drinking lots at night at the moment, so maybe just maybe this is the problem. I'm going out to buy the next size up in nappy today. I guess if it doesn't solve the problem at least I'll have the next size in nappy. I'll just use them for nights. I go onto another baby site and I think one of the mums said this is usually her sign when the bub needs to increase in nappy size, waking at night.

It's just so frustrating because he'd started sleeping 11 hours. So why now suddenly is he waking twice or three times? I've decided it's not teeth now as there's no problems during the day at the moment, so can't put it down to that. He could still be hungry, but to wake 3 hours after a huge feed is not normal. And it's not growth spurt as he's not over indulging during the day. Sure I think he should be drinking more during the day, but I can't change that.

Sorry this is sooo long. Just had to tell someone. I've already had tears of exhaustion thismorning for no reason apart from having to get out of bed because Daniel was getting bored with his toys on my bed while I tried to catch another few minutes lying down. They weren't tears at Daniel, just tears cos I wish my hubby or someone could have looked after Daniel while I got some more sleep.  :cry:

Enough from me. Hope your days and nights go better than mine are.

Oh, one good bit of news for me, is I've found out where I might be able to get a Nuby cup. I've searched everywhere and then on the other forum one lady mentioned she saw one at Pak'n'Save which is the cheapest grocery chain here. I never would have thought they'd have it, but I'm going to look today when I get the bigger nappies. :D (And buy some painkillers for this headache!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 29, 2005, 20:53:07 pm
Oh yay, just had to tell you after a few more tears (quite loud ones) I went back in to Daniel after putting him down and took with me a BOTTLE. I decided if he was crying because he was hungry (he didn't take a big feed at 7am when he woke up due to last nights marathon feeds) he might take the bottle. Well, more tears and protests for a minute or two and he kind of took it. I think he managed about 20 mils! This is big progress for us. Then he kind of drifted into a daze with it just in his mouth and me holding him tight. I took it out and popped him into his cot. Just barely awake and he went out like a light.

I know he was overtired/grizzly because of being awake so much last night, and probably was hungry due to lack of milk thismorning, so if we can fix those night wakings I know we'll be fine. I'll try the bottle again when he wakes for his next feed as I'm sure he'll be hungry by then.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 29, 2005, 20:53:55 pm
Hayley, I found with Nathan that he was only affected by teething at night for some reason - less to focus on perhaps? Hopefully your bigger nappies work out - is he actually leaking through them?  I would think your wakings are developmental in some way - really frustrating and it's not really possible to put your finger on it.  But it will get better.

Karen, I'm not sure what to do about the safeTsleep - I weaned Nathan out of it at 7mths because he was soooo active and was rolling onto his tummy to sleep so I thought I may as well get rid of it.  Danielle is quite content to lie in it still although she is getting more wriggly.  Honestly, I don't think I'd introduce one now - they do take weaning and I know that I'll probably have disturbed sleep when I do get rid of it with her moving around the cot (although her arms have always been out at least).

Day 1 of Nathan's gluten-free diet and he slept through the night!!!!! :shock:  :D  A shame I lay awake after D's 3am feed for 2hrs since my brain is so crammed with celiac info at the moment.  :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on October 29, 2005, 21:03:03 pm
Nikki - well done for Nathan. You must be so happy! He'll be a different boy today. Thismorning Daniel's nappy was wet thru to the outside, but as I mentioned, not surprising due to how much he ate last night. If it is teething, then how do I fix it when he's crying so much I can't get any medication in? I guess I could feed him a bit to calm him then try to get some in. I might try that tonight if he wakes.

I understand about the developmental thing, and as he sleeps in a sleeping bag have wondered whether that's prohibiting him from moving how he wants to. What do you others do? Do you have sleeping bags at this age or not?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on October 29, 2005, 21:30:46 pm
Hayley, I skipped the sleeping bag stage and went straight onto those polar fleece sleep suits for Nathan when we got to this age (and weaned out of the STS), over summer he was mainly just in a thin regular sleepsuit.  So basically he was just layered up and down as required yet his legs and arms were completely free to move.  Also, when standing in the cot he could walk around if he wanted to.  I still buy them for Nathan now, but probably won't next winter.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 29, 2005, 22:33:38 pm
Thanks for advice NIKKI. Will have to ride this one out. Thanks for prompt reply as was about to go to the Show again and get one on show special.
HAYLEY, Sam is in a grobag and it does not seem to stop him moving AT ALL!!! He rolls, creeps up the bed etc etc. Oh and we have a heater on timer at night to go on about 2 am so he does not get too hot early evening and too cold early morning.
Must go dust my work gear off.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 30, 2005, 04:54:53 am
Hi everyone,  James has a few nicknames, mainly monkey though.  Sometimes he gets called Jamiejames (and he answers to this):) 
 
everything here is going well.  I had tried J on bananas a couple of times and he always screwed his face up, so I gave him a pieces to feed himself (he now has 3 teeth) and he ate the whole thing. :shock:   'very independant this little man. LOL  Anyway, he is pulling himself up everywhere and is alittle energizer bunny while awake but has turned into a sleeping machine. Sleeps 11.5-12hrs every night.  naps are going well, with him going down relatively easy and having 2 x 1.5hrs and maybe a catnap on average.

Happy Halloween :twisted: everyone up North.  Hope it is a lot of fun.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 30, 2005, 09:36:56 am
Hi Everyone!

My nicknames for Fraser are Bubba and Pumpkin.  DH calls him bugalugs (what is it with the bug theme??)  He also gets monkey and cheeky monkey (called him cheeky monkey while pg).  He also gets Crankypants Jack when he's in a mood (quite often actually!).  And Frase.  I guess I could go on LOL!  We also have all the Mr toys (Mr Bug, Mr Donkey etc etc)

So I need to rant.  Sorry in advance.

Why is it that, after starting BW with Fraser at about 8 weeks, and having had some serious success for getting off to independent sleep at times (like for a whole month somewhere in there) we now have so much difficulty at EVERY SINGLE SLEEP... :evil:  :evil:

We never used to have any trouble whatsoever for the night sleep - it now takes about an hour of screaming, PU/PD, wrapping, more milk, more screaming, rolling like a madman around the cot, headbutting the slats, leg slamming etc etc etc all the while screaming.  Tonight I gave Panadol after an hour and he finally slept.  Do you think it could be a medical thing?

And then naps - every nap time is a battle - a big battle.  Didn't manage to get him down for his second nap today at all so he then passed out during his 3pm feed.  Woke up from that very "crankypants Jack" all through dinner, bath, feed, and on to screaming (see above!)

After last nights hour session DH has the gall to say to me "how come we have all this trouble when he's supposed to be Baby Whispered?"  :evil: I said something along the lines of "just imagine how hard things would be if he wasn't".  He then said "what, so all the other baby's who sleep are baby whispered are they?"  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: C'mon, I had just dealt with a screaming kid for an hour, give me a break.  I said "well, if you think I'm doing this all wrong just let me know.  If you've got better ideas why don't you take over".  Ok, so not the best Saturday night conversation.  I'd have to say things have been pretty frosty since.  I am so disappointed because I thought the only person who really understood BW and was really on board with it with me was him...

But seriously, what is going wrong?  I know we've had issues with illness etc but we try (or at least I think we try, don't really know what DH does when I am at work) to be consistent the rest of the time with winddown, going into bed while awake, etc etc.

I am seriously at the end of my rope here - this is not helping me try to manage my moods and I am flying off the handle with DS when I am having difficulty settling him.  I just don't know what to do...  :cry:

Sorry so long - but would really appreciate any ideas.

TIA!
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 30, 2005, 11:21:07 am
Jo,

{{HUGS}}!!!  To me it sounds developmental, with all the mobility.  It seems to be a common theme on the thread with all the LO's the same age as Fraser.  Also, does Fraser sleep flat, I mean right on the crib mattress?  I have an inclined crib wedge for Sophie, she doesn't sleep well without it.  I'm sorry I don't have more for you *sigh*, this too shall pass, I suppose.

Does your DH watch Fraser while you are at work? 

It has been frosty in our house as well this weekend.  Is anyone else tired of the 'men will be men' excuses, or 'all men are the same'?  I call bull !  Sorry but I am at work and it is 6AM sunday morning and DH has the nerve to say to me as I am rolling out of bed to get ready at 4AM 'I'm supposed to be golfing this morning - is the nanny coming?" :shock:  :shock:   I tell you where I would like to stuff those golf clubs.  I have not gone out, not for dinner drink NOTHING, much less gone golfing (yes, I love to golf) in 16 months.  I have not gone for a spa day or even had a lunch date with girlfriends in yes, you guessed it 16 months.  My life is Sophie, work, house cleaning, laundry, errands, grocery shopping, start again!!!  Wow did I need to vent or what.  This is all coming after a few days of DH/work frustration....oh I could go on but won't, because I should get back to work....

Thanks for the vent ladies.........
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on October 30, 2005, 13:53:26 pm
(((HUGS))) to you Jo!  I understand the dh thing...whenever something's not working, it's always "We could just let him CIO."   :shock:   Where have these men been the last 7 months?  I just keep saying, "Remember when it was so easy to put him down?  It'll get back to that if we STAY CONSISTENT."  Then, I usually think in my head, "You big arse!"  I agree with Richelle, it seems like most of our lo's are having more trouble going down to sleep lately either form teeth, movement, being more aware of surroundings, or all of the above.  What an exciting time for the bubs, but a trying time for us!  Vent anytime you want, girl!
(((HUGS))) to you, too, Richelle.  What the deuce are you doing at work at 6 am on Sunday?   :x   I think you are in the hotel industry, right?  I guess you would have crazy hours, but yikes!  You have TOTALLY made the right decision to quit.  Don't let them talk you into staying.  Sounds like even if they offered you part time, they'd keep having some sort of need for you to come in more often.  Stay strong!!!
I am up  :evil:  since had to pump before exploding.  Ryan is at the il's house for a sleepover, so dh and I could go to a Halloween costume party.  Lucky for me that they get to deal with him on time change night.  We have been trying to prepare him for the time change for weeks, but with last week's cold and all the wacko sleep stuff mentioned above, I think it was a waste of time.  *sigh*  At least I got to "sleep in" until 6:30 (the time formerly known as 7:30)!  Hope it went well for the rest of you who are dealing with it!
Love, Kate
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 30, 2005, 17:54:24 pm
Jo... {{{{HUGS}}}} We are going throught EXACTLY the same thing with Arwyn. I just posted about it on Friday. She has gone from an independent sleeper to a real poop about sleeping over the last 4 weeks or so. Crying, screaming, arching her back and pushing up, etc. I truly think it is developmental and teeth.

Hayley... {{{{HUGS}}}} to you too! Arwyn has also been getting up MANY times in the night and the only way to calm her has been to put her on my breast. Last night was down to 4 wakings. We started off on Thursday night with every hour or less so I am somewhat grateful for this reduction. Hang in there... your good sleeper will come back. Congrats on the bottle!!

Here is our funny story about the time change! Okay... so, Arwyn has been getting up so many times in the night so I decide that I can't make her sleep past 6:30 ish this morning. We get up, do our morning routine... BF, solids, play, (skipped the books) back to bed for a nap. I then went straight back to bed. When she woke 45 minutes later :roll: , I asked DH to get her. I continued sleeping. Sometime later, DH asked if Arwyn should go back to bed... I mumbled yes, thinking he was paying attention to the time.

So, when I woke at 9:30 (new time), I realized that Arwyn was asleep  :? I worked this out in my head and I only counted 4 hours, no matter which time I used :D . So... I go downstairs to tell DH that I made a mistake and we have just put Arwyn down too early. Well... he proceeds to tell me what they did. He did the morning routine AGAIN!!! So... minus the BF, Arwyn had more solids, some Baby Einstein time and then back to bed in only 1 hr 30 min! Obviously, she did not mind... she didn't cry for her nap and lately, she always cries for her nap! Both DH and I had a chuckle about that because now, she is on track as she went down for a nap at her regular time, accounting for the time change!!! :lol:

Thank goodness for this additional Y time because both DH and I are knackered. DH is on call for work and had to get up at 2 am and went to work... came back a while later and I have been up and down with Arwyn all night!

Happy belated Erin!

Karen... thinking about you here, going back to work. Hope you have a good first day!

Richelle... 6 am??? and you get up to get ready at 4 am? Hats off to you for doing this even while you have Sophie. How much longer until you go? I am assuming your resignation was successful, right?

Traci... I am thinking you made it to your party as I see no posts. :P  Did you have a good time?

Hopefully I will catch you guys at the chat tonight. Depends on the kinda night we are having.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 30, 2005, 20:46:27 pm
HUGS Jo,  I had this trouble with James about a month ago and then it seemed to settle.  It will probably all change next month :lol:   I'm afraid I don't have too many suggestions.  I have found though with James of late he doesn't like a long windown.  When he starts to rub his face and get whingy (usually around 2.5hrs of A time) I take him into his room, stand in front of the cot and sing "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" (DH sings Billy Brag  :D ).  Then I place him in his cot and say "night-night" and walk out.  He has a little cry for about 3-5min and then he is asleep.  At night I do the same thing except I put him in the cot after singing with the night light on, say night-night and turn the night light off.  So he is in complete darkness.  I have found this to be very good.  Do you have a light on? 

My Dh is usually very good and helpful and will do things my way with James but the thing that gets me is (and I havetold him that) that they never say "How about I take James to the shopswith me and you can go and have a bath", orsomething like that.  I always have to ask him to take him.   :x  :x

Sorry, I cannot be of more help with sleeping issues, I do know it passes though.  Don't worry about resorting to Panadol, Jo, I too have done this as a last resort and it seems to work.  If it is teeth, could he be having ear aches as well?

Remember, Jo, I am only a phone call away.  Keep smiling :) everyone else. 

Take care,

Lisa, mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 30, 2005, 20:56:08 pm
Trying to get caught up again, so where I left off I think was on nick names....well as mentioned before Brady gets Bugaboo, also, Bud, Little Toad, Monkey, Squirmy Worm and Wriggle Worm.

LOL, too many nic names I guess....depends on what mood were in,or what mood he's in. Some have stuck, others are going slowly.


bbl

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 30, 2005, 21:04:09 pm
Great Big Hugs to everyone!  It sounds like a rough weekend (or longer) for many.

Good luck at your first day back Karen.

I have been pretty lucky and hope that I don't have to go through what many of you are now.

Went for lunch/spa day yesterday and it was wonderful.  My massage was really good even though the therapist was a bit of a blabbermouth.  When I got out of the spa my phone said "missed one call" so I called home but it wasn't DH and MIL.  Everything was fine.  Cole didn't take the bottle at first so they made some milky cereal but he pitched a fit in the highchair.  DH fed the cereal with Cole on his lap and then he ended up taking the rest of the bottle while they gave him a few things to play with to distract him.  He had 2 45 min and a 30 min. nap yesterday as well  :shock: What can you do?  I didn't go to the party afterall.  Wasn't sure Cole would take the bottle and didn't want MIL dealing with a hysterical babe. I didn't do anything special for time change except put Cole down 45 min. later than normal.  This was the result of a late catnap, not really planned.  He woke at 11:15 and 4:00 to feed and then up for day at 6:15, therefore 5:15 by time change.  Not bad considering he's been getting up at 5:30 regular time.  MIL came down at 5:45 after I fed him and I got to sleep until 7:00.

Went to birthday party and my friend loved the frame, loved it.  YAY!  Cole had a 45 minute nap after being up 3 hours this morning so I thought he'd melt down.  I am really lucky girls, so very lucky.  He was up from 9-1:30 at the party.  He wore his costume the whole time and was as quiet as a mouse as all the kids ranging 4.5 months-6years screamed, ran and played around him.  When we got him to the car I was expecting a fit and he was sound asleep without a peep in 5 minutes.  Only a 35 minute nap, but he woke smiling at grandma.  Did I mention we took MIL to the party :D   Perfect as DH and I were free to hang out with our friends.  Haven't seen some of them in months because of DH studying.  Anyway, down just now for catnap.  Think I'll make sure he sleeps an hour until 5 otherwise I fear he'll have a bad night. 

I want to start eliminating the night feed but I just don't have the stamina.  I tried wake to sleep last night but it didn't work.  Went in at 3:30 since I woke up anyway, did the jiggle but he woke at 4 to feed.  rats!  He's been going right back to sleep so I shouldn't really complain.  It's the 5:30 wakings that are tough though.  Hope I can get that to at least 6 and I'll be happy. 

I hope things turn around soon for you Ankie, Richelle, Jo, Hayley.  Hayley, maybe try putting your Bear in the Box to sleep.  Might work a charm :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 30, 2005, 22:13:37 pm
Hi Ladies, I'm sorry to hear some of you didn't have a good weekend, sleep wise. I can relate so very much.  Big hugs to you all.

I think I'm all caught up now....I hope

Hayley - (((Hugs))) I"m sure your good sleeper will appear again soon.......as for the sleeping bag issue, I've heard the gro bags are great. We have not tried them yet...right now we use the fleece all in one sleepers for Brady. Seems to work well for him.  He has a light blankie, that he sleeps with too, but nothing else.  But again, have heard good reviews from others using the gro bags.  HTH

Jo - {{{{HUGS}}}}  I hope things get better really soon. I know what you are going through.

Karen, have a good first day

Richelle - hats off to you for getting up etc that early.wow!

Traci - Yeah for Cole taking the bottle, (with some coaxing)...but Yea!
Glad your friend loved the gift, would love to see a pic of it, if you took one.
What is wake to sleep, did I miss it in the book yet, or coming up to it maybe...and what is the jiggle?

So here is our weekend - yesterday I can say with happiness, Brady had a 2.5 nap...first ever!!!!!
Bad night, sounds like the rest of you pretty much, we were up every hour on the hour. Teething for one thing...but good still with the nap, I'm so very happy for that.  Today got messed up though.  We had my Grandmothers 80th Birthday at the Mandarin Restaurant, near where we live, Great place, Lots of family there. All got to see Brady....but....he was in some mood!  He didn't nap so well today, lots of cat naps, and then we had to go out, I"m afraid we'll pay for it...but I guess what we've been going through It can't get much worse.  Still working on the book, and setting things up, thanks to all of you for sharing your routines with me, I appreciate it greatly. 

I'm hoping to get on the chat tonight too, I guess I'll see how our night goes though.  How do I get on?

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 30, 2005, 22:47:17 pm
Holly-here is the chat link.  It's posted in the lounge if you ever need it again.
http://www.thebabywhisperer.com/chat/phpMyChat.php3

just log in however you want-with your forum name or your real name. 

Wake to Sleep is a technique to break your lo of habitual waking.  you set your alarm for an hour before the time they wake up and go in a wake them (not fully). It's supposed to reset their clock so they sleep through that time.  So I go in and jiggle Cole until I see him stir/move a bit.  Maybe I'm not waking him fully enough.

okay, gotta go feed him.  The short naps and long party are showing their effects.

hope to see you girls on the chat.  I'm pretty pooped though so likely won't stay long.

OH-Hayley.  Cole is in a Grobag and he stands up in it!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 30, 2005, 23:36:47 pm
Traci - I had thought too that you had made it to the party but am glad you got to go for a spa day and catch up with friends with your DH.

Kate - thanks for the support and yes I am an area manager for 4 restaurants owned by a large jewerly company on island.  Beind food and baverage/hospitality there are crazy hours but not hours that are in my contract(been there & done my time).  Unfortunately i find I get most of my best work done and uninterupted before any of the restaurants open for the day (hence the 4AM wakeup and 6AM at work).  Also I am a bit of a control freak.... :shock:

Holly - Just my opinion, alot will probably disagree with me but I would work on night time sleep first.  It was the easiest for us and definately the most important sleep - again for us, just an opinion!  When we began it was tough to know where to start and night was easier b/c it was darker and I was too sleepy to be stressed about every noise ect..,and before long I was saying nap schmap, but this girl slepts 6 hours straight tonight!!  Please PM if you need anything.

Ankie - I don't remeber what I was going to say I guess just Hi.  I am tired...goodness

I hope to join the chat tonight.......
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 31, 2005, 00:17:16 am
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the hugs and support.  I really need them.  DH really needs them too!  He is at home with Fraser today (yes to whoever asked, he looks after Fraser when I am at work) and he has just spent the last 1 and a half hours trying to get DS down for his nap.  Unsuccessfully.  Poor DH I feel so bad for him, I know how hard it is. 

So, seeing as we are all going through this rough patch, what is everyone doing to get their LO's off to sleep?  What accidental on purpose parenting are you doing?  How can we help them??  I know I can't just let him cry and cry...

Lisa, I've tried leaving him for a bit to see if he'll settle by himself (I don't know if I've been out of the room for as long as 5 minutes, I would guess probably DH has tried that) but he doesn't settle at all.  He just continues to work up and up.  Plus I get so hung up on the concept of "is this CIO" that I can't stand waiting around outside.

So, anyone, tips?  Ankie, is it just all about magic boob?  That seems to have stopped working at our place.  I will come to the chat room later and see if you have ideas...  (and also to chat  :D)

I have booked DS into the doctor at midday today (DH is taking him) to get all medical things checked out.  Is it wrong to be hoping that he has an ear infection or something else which could explain this horror  :oops:  :oops: ?  I am a terrible mum.  I feel like such a failure.   :cry:  I'm sorry to lump this on you - you are all so great. 

Chat later - is it in an hour or 2 hours or 3 hours??  I guess I'll just keep checking....

Bye!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on October 31, 2005, 03:09:47 am
HI Everyone,

I managed to read through the ten thousand pages I had to catch up on :lol:Loved hearing all the nicknames - how funny :lol: Some of ours for Halle are: Pumkin Breath, Smelly Pants, Chadrika :?  Little Lurchy(DH's nickname is Lurch)Halle-Long-Legs and Halle-Munster. Some family call her bubba or princess - only thing I hate when people call her Hal  :evil:

Sorry to hear some of you are having sleep problems. Hope all gets better soon. oh yeah and I agree with concentrating on the night sleep. I had no idea how much better and confident I'd feel once  my dd started sleeping all night. Her naps are still a nightmare, so now that we have night sleep, does anyone think it would be a good idea to work on the early afternoon nap because eventually that will be the only nap?

We had a great time on the camping trip. DD was such a good girl !! She had a couple of 45min naps (nothing unusual there :roll: )but managed to sleep through the night first night in the tent :D even though there was a whole footy team close by who were VERY loud :evil: That's ok we got them back at 5.30am after Halle woke by turning up our music  :lol: We also had a heap of possums just walk right into our camp looking for food - they were so cute!! One of them even had a baby on her back. We were more scared of them then they were of us (they bite HARD) :lol: I will post photos later when I recharge my camera if anyone is interested.

 :?: Can anyone tell me which of the 'day feeds' is dropped first? ( 7am, 11am or 3pm?

Have a good (sleep) night everyone
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on October 31, 2005, 06:02:59 am
Just caught up girls. HUGS to you all.
First day was fine. I cried all the way to work but then got a hold of myself and actually quite enjoyed the day! I am such a wimp!
DH dealt wonderfully with Sam and even rang me up to report how he did. All in all, not as bad as I thought.
I wish I had advice on sleep but I don't and it sounds developmental...I am really not looking forward to that stage of development!!!
Hope you had a good time chatting.
Better go and get some dinner.
Take care all,
Karen

ps: I think you drop the mid morning feed first (11 am) but the more experienced mums may be able to comment (Nicki, Naomi, Judy??)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 31, 2005, 13:41:36 pm
Hey girls,

Chat was fun.  Here are some pics from the party, and one of Cole with his jack o lantern taken this morning.  The birthday girl is the pumpkin.

How did everyone fair this morning?  Cole was up at 4 to feed, took a bit to settle back down and then up for good at 5:30.  i had some questions for you girls and now i can't remember.  i'm sure they'll come to me after i post.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/unhappybeea.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/pumpkinsunrisea.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/liona.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/birthdaypumpkina.jpg)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 31, 2005, 13:55:30 pm
traci i love the one of cole with the pumkin, especially with the sky in the background.
Thank you ladies for the wonderful turnout on the chat last night, maybe some of you lurkers maybe inclined to join us next week and we can meet some more people!!!!
Riley wasn't too bad today, after a feed I gave her 11, she woke up at 4 and 7:30. I was very surprised after she went down at 5, woke up for a half hour at 7 and then went back to bed.
Her solids are coming along leaps and bounds, this morning she got mad as I wasn't feeding her fast enough :shock:
So I need some ideas os what to get Riley for xmas, I know it maybe early to think about it, but i soo don't want to be stuck buing gifts towards the end of it all.
Jo- how is fraser doing with his ear infection.
Karen- Nice to hear your first day back went okay for you, and no you are not a wimp
Well must dash, nap time is about due
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 31, 2005, 14:18:31 pm
Naomi-i got the birthday girl this really cool Leapfrog phonics bus.  It's meant for 12 month and up but it was way cool.  you press the letters and it makes the sound of the letters and says a word.  There is also a magnatized version apparently that goes on the fridge. They put the letter in the right spot and it say C, C says Cat, or something like that.
maybe they'd be better for first birthdays.  Hmmm, let me think on some christmas ideas.

Can we talk BMs?  Cole has been eating all orange food (carrot and sweet potato) and as a result his poo is 100% orange.  is this normal or is the food just going straight through him?  hope this isn't a stupid question.  he seems fine with the carrots btw, don't think it was that making him spill.

Also, for those of you feeding a bottle, is everyone feeding EBM?  Or are some of you doing formula for those feeds?  expressing just takes too long (2oz each time) so i find that's why i'm not giving the bottle very often.  maybe if I wean one feed and give formula for that feed he might take it more readily?

okay, i think those were my Qs for now.  thanks girls.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on October 31, 2005, 14:36:15 pm
Hi girls -
Loved the chat last night, was sorry I couldn't stay longer. 

Traci - That picture of Cole and the pumpkin is beautiful.  I feed EBM for bottles - I pump between my first two morning feeds, and can get about 6-7 ounces, but I've always had an overabundant supply (I think I finally stopped leaking all the time about last week or so).  I have been thinking about weaning onto formula for one feed, but then again I was only breastfeeding for six months at the most, and here we are at nearly 8. 

Bec - I find the morning nap to be much easier than the afternoon one, but that just might be us.  I think what eventually happens (and those of you with older kids can correct me here) is that the morning nap just keeps getting later and later until there's no time for the afternoon nap.  Also I think the feed you drop is either the 11 AM or the 3 PM, depending on which one your LO is less interested in.

Jo - When Katie has trouble sleeping because of a cold or teeth or just having a wacky time, I generally resort to rocking her to sleep (or almost sleep).  I also don't worry about the long naps and let her catnap and will take her out in the car if she really needs another nap.  (She only sleeps in the car if she's tired, so it works out ok). 

Happy Halloween all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on October 31, 2005, 14:46:01 pm
HI

Traci - Great pic's!!  Cole is such a cutie, literally a doll!!

Naomi - I was thinking about Chrisymas as well and sort of at a loss, it is going to be a very low key Christmas here, no family ect...so don't know first of all how big of a deal to make it for Sophie much less what to get her!!!

Traci - Sophie was weaned completed to formula 6 weeks ago (by her own doing)  The only advice I Have is, stay AWAY from ready made formula, go with the powder stuff you mix with water.  Sophie spent a nioght in the hospital dehydrated and puking at 2 1/2 months from the ready made stuff - it was too rich to digest ectect....Ped and all the hospital nurses recommended Nestle Good start.  HTH

I have attached a few pic's of Sophie 'dressed up',  the costume was ripped to pieces within minutes!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on October 31, 2005, 15:01:29 pm
Christmas - not sure what I'm getting Kaia and Hannah yet.. I had some ideas but I've forgotten them now.  Figures.  OH.  We have this awesome bike toy - the seat opens so they can walk with it, or it goes together so they can ride it.  I need another one and was going to that BUT they won't be ready for it yet and I know the older two will use it - which is fine but I don't like them assuming they can take over someone's gift... so that will just be something I buy whenever.

For Zoe's first Christmas we only bought her a stuffed animal and that was it.  She was only 7 months at the time.  We got Sarah a bit more even though she was only 3months but this was more for Zoe.  I didn't want her to see that she was the only one getting lots of stuff.  So this year we will definitely get Kaia and Hannah some stuff.  Even clothes -not that they care about it but it's presents for the other girls to see them get. 

We have that alphabet bus - it's cool.  My girlfriend has the fridge thing - it's cool too!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on October 31, 2005, 16:01:24 pm
Jo... {{{{Hugs}}} to you and your DH... Let's see... accidental on purpose parenting skills... both DH and I have reverted back to holding her until she is very sleepy and in Stage 3 of sleep before putting her down. Otherwise, the screaming fits are just horrendous. Even so, sometimes she will start crying when we put her down but is calm enough to pat.

Yup, the magic boob is losing its magic over here too... It has to be at the right time to work and that is hit and miss nowadays. I think she is more able to fight sleep now.

We also went back to holding her, singing and rocking/swaying to calm her down. We did this before BW and it worked so... we tried it again (5 months later  :roll: ) and it still works. I think the singing bothers her though and I stop when her crying gets quieter.

I also sit in the rocking chair with her until she is calm. Even though she is twisting all around to look all over the place, I just hold her for about 5 minutes and then I put her in the crib. If she is not calm enough to pat, I pick her up again... sit in the rocker, etc.

We pretty much play it by ear. I usually give each "technique" a few chances before a switch to another one. The boob is the last resort... at that time, it usually works because she is so tired but I guess your DH's boob just won't work. :wink:  :P

Good luck Jo! I still think it is all developmental at this age and hope that it does pass. We are down to only 3 wakings last night and she let me sleep from 3 am to 7 am. Let me tell ya, I feel like a new woman!!

Karen... congrats on your first day! I understand that one is the hardest. I am glad Sam had a good day too!

Richelle... I understand about the productivity. I am usually the teacher that stays until 8 at night because I am the most productive when everybody else is gone and the place is quiet!

Traci... what a great picture with the Jack-o-Lantern! The sky in the background is a fantastic complement to your beautiful little boy on a dark October night!! WOW!

Erin... cute costume. She looks so sweet. Is that a flower atop her head?

Christmas.  :?:  :?: I don't know what to buy her. We buy stuff all the time but I guess necessities don't count  :)  Ummm, I have no idea. All I have purchased so far are two Christmas dresses.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on October 31, 2005, 16:09:39 pm
Hi Girls, chat was fun last night. Really enjoyed it.  Should have been sleeping I guess though,when Brady was, as he was up at midnight, didn't have a great night, and a very cranky baby today.  He has only had a 40 minute nap today, having trouble settling him again.
 
Traci - love the pics, great lion costume, i looked at that same one in Children's place, we got Brady the giraffe instead.  What a beautiful baby boy you have there, Cole is such a sweetheart.
 BM's,Brady's was the same as what you are describing with the carrots, Traci. I think its just what the veggie does to them, cause now when he eats them it still happens, and goes away when he's not. Different fruits and veggies are going to be like that.
As for bottle feeds, I do both sometimes I give EBM, sometimes I mix half and half, and others just formula, on top of all that I bf too. Reason for this , is Brady didn't latch very well in the beginning. So I pumped continuously. Was worried of running out of milk, which didn't happen anyway, but was concerned so the Pediatrician told me to do the above. I still do now, and he now takes both bottle and breast perfectly.
What kind of pump are you using?

Naomi - I'll have to think about Christmas gifts for ya, I know what you mean about leaving it to the last minute, I need to get out to the malls soon, before it gets too busy and hectic to get my shopping done.

Richelle, are all the ready made formulas too thick did they say?  The powders you make yourself, to you make it exactly to the measurements on the can?  if so, doesn't it just make it as thick as the ready made ones.  The reason I ask, is Brady had reflux, and spits up all the time. But when he gets straight formula (the ready made stuff), he throws up badly. I thought he couldn't tolerate it, so that is when the Dr told me to mix half breastmilk, half formula together, but maybe it may work for us if we use straight formula if i mix it myself with water.  Just wondering.  Also, Sophie is so adorable, love the pics.

bbl
Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on October 31, 2005, 16:20:57 pm
no biggie over xmas ideas, it is just that jay is easy to buy for, he has his likes and dislikes by now, but with Riley she is too old for some toys I want to get her, and too young for her likes and dislikes yet.
Oh, booby Vs Formula, here we use me, and for the bottle we have a mix of my frozen ebm and formula. Richelle I agree with you on the brand, we use GOOD START 6 to 18mths OMEGA 3 with calcium formula the powdered kind.
We looked at the others and that kind seemed to have the most comprehensive range of nutrients.
I found that when Ri's teeth was about to break thro she didn't want me or the bottle, and just when I was getting weepy over giving up bf, she was back to her old feeds again.
Well, my kids need a cleaning, I put them in together, not too bad actually.
Take Care my dahlings, enjoy your day where ever you are.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 31, 2005, 17:06:09 pm
hi girls!
chat last night was fun we'll have to do it again!! :)

as for xmas presents- I don't think that dh and I will Jack much of anything because he is the first grandbaby on both sides sooo...I think he will get more than enough from everyone else.

when I first started feeding Jack formula we were also doing 1/2 EBM and 1/2 Formula....just to help him digestive system get used to it.  He is very prone to getting constipated.  Then finally switched over completely to formula after pumping for about a month...I'd had enough of that!!!  Especially because that was before Jack was on BW so I was either nursing, pumping or carrying him so needless to say I was a little knackered!!! :shock:   I was also told that the premixed stuff can be a little harder to digest for some babes.  We use similac advance with iron for 0-12mnths.  I would have started with Good Start had I known that they sell it at Costco.  Formula is expensive!!!!!!! :shock:   But since Jackson is prone to being bunged up-switching between formulas can also cause constipation.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on October 31, 2005, 17:53:15 pm
okay, i've had time to go back and do some reading.

Karen-i can imagine i'll be a huge mess my first day back too.  Great that you ended up enjoying it.  And it's wonderful that DH can be home with Sam.

Happy Belated Erin...

Jo...any results back from the doc?  I wonder if maybe his reflux is worse for some reason :?:  :?

Bec-Hooray for a successful camping trip.  Sounds so wonderful and the pic looked really nice.  Post some pics of the trip too, looking forward to them.

Richelle-beautiful pics, but that costume sure doesn't look baby friendly LOL

Holly-I'm using Avent Manual pump.  I used to be able to get 4-6 ounces when I pumped back at 3 months or so.  maybe my supply decreased.  I'm not too worried about it.  Think I'll try the nestle starter stuff, I have a can here that someone gave me.

Micky-was it you who was wondering as well what to do about the trick or treaters while doing bedtime?  I'm disconnecting my doorbell.  At least I hoped it worked.  will test it when cole wakes up.  I took the cover off and unscrewed one of the screws and unhooked a wire.  I'll put a sign on saying to come back after X time for candy!  I'm hoping it works.

Thanks for the tips on bottlefeeding girls.  I have to admit I'll be quite relieved when he isn't so dependant on just me.  Of course I'm sure when the time comes all be all emotional and not want to give it up but I suppose it must happen sometime :cry:

okay, gotta go do my 27 fling boogie, put out my hotspots, tie my shoes, get rid of my paper clutter, spend 15 minutes in my zone, eat lunch, do some laundry...PHEW.  good thing I got all those reminders :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on October 31, 2005, 20:52:14 pm
hi guys!
thanks for the suggestion about the sign traci!! we'll see how it goes!

do any of your lo's have sweaty hands and feet?  Jackson's are always sweaty!! :?  It's kinda gross! :shock:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 31, 2005, 22:33:12 pm
Hi Guys, 

Traci, love the photos of cole.  Very cute :D  In regards to formula, I bf James completely till about 4mths and then started to wean onto formula.  I started by bottle feeding the 6pm feed and then gradually over a periods of weeks introduced another feed (I think it was the 3pm).  It got to the stage I was feeding first and last feeds bfeeding and any in thenight.  After I stopped morning feeds I only fed in the night and then he stopped waking and that stopped bf altogether.  It was very sad to do and even now I get a little choked up when I see a breastfeeding mum.  I decided to change because I don't know whether it was due to lack of supply or slow letdown, but J would come off crying all the time.  Doctors etc said it wasn't reflux, and he would drink fine off a bottle.

I have a little funny story I just had to share with you all.  Poor James fell asleep in the shower on Sunday morning.   :D  :D   Something had woken him up very early on Sunday and he was crying which wasn't like him at all.  We gave him a bottle and breakfast and he was fine for a couple of hours. I then took him into the shower with me and was slowly rocking and with the water running down his back he fell asleep.  Poor little Mr Magooby :D  :D He woke up when I took him out and we put him back to sleep about 1/2hr later and he slept for 2.5hrs!! :?   The only thing is he now wakes early in the mornings (5am and gets up at 5:30am).  Do you think wake to sleep would fix this?  His normal wake time is around 6:30am.

Lovely photos of everyone by the way. 

Jo:  just wondering about Fraser.  Does he sleep on his tummy or back?  I was thinking that if it is on his back would he be more comfy on his tummy?  In a way I hope the dr's find something to give you some reassurance, but on the other hand, I hope Fraser isn't sick.  It would be awful if he is associating sleep/bed with pain.  I will try and ring you this week.  What days are you at home?

Take care everyone.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on October 31, 2005, 23:25:21 pm
Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the tips and support.

For those of you who weren't in the chat room yesterday, Fraser has an ear infection and is back on antibiotics.  I thought breastfeeding was supposed to help prevent infections  :roll: Is all that pumping in vain???

After 1 WHOLE HOUR of naps yesterday (yes, in total!) Fraser went to sleep at 7pm with no fussing (a reminder of the "good ole days"!  He then woke at 10.30 and we had a cuddle and a bit of "magic boob" and he went back to sleep.  He woke again at 2, I fed him, he couldn't resettle, I gave him Panadol and fed him some more, he still couldn't settle, he ended up crying for an hour and a half, not screaming but "poor me, I feel yucky and I don't understand" type of crying.  :cry:  He eventually fell asleep on DH's chest and we then put him back into his bed.  He woke at 6.00am.  Wish us luck for today...

He is not feeding well but hopefully the antiboitics will kick in today and help us all get some sleep and put us back in the right direction. 

He now has a nasty cough as well, he had a couple of coughing fits during the night and they wake him up as well.  I'm hoping that the antibiotics might help with that too.  The doctor said his chest is clear (well, yesterday it was!)

Anyway, that's the update.  :D

Lisa, my days are mixed up this week so I know I'll be home tomorrow but not sure other than that.  I'll be in and out on the weekend as well - if we haven't spoken I'll try you then.  Great story about James and the shower - what a beautiful memory.  Fraser had always slept on his back but since the rolling started he sleeps either on his front, back or side.  With the cold and the cough I've been putting him down on his side and letting him work himself out (which is what sometimes causes the problem as he flops about and trashes his body!!)  BTW, good work on the avatar  :wink:

Loved all the halloween piccies, what cuties!  We are some lucky mum's aren't we!!

(Sorry so long!) Take care all, will chat soon.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on October 31, 2005, 23:40:08 pm
Jo,  sorry to hear Fraser is not well :( I have been lucky with James lately - no illnesses but I do know what it is like.  Do you have a vapouriser for Fraser's room?  I found this helped with James when he had a cold, it helped to keep the air moist and it helped with breathing.  I have one if you would like to borrow one.  I hope the antiobiotics kick in soon.  In the meantime, I would nurse fraser to sleep.  I did this with James when he was sick and he has now gone  back to settling himself.  I do feel for you and your Dh :(

Bye for now we are off to swimming.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 01, 2005, 00:10:28 am
well ladies, we have just gotten back from Jayson's first time trick or treating. He kicked butt, I mean the kid got 2 grocery bags full of chips and candy, and cuz he was dressed like a cow and was so young, I think they all gave him twice the normal amount. Riley put up with it for an hour, but I think she was bored.
Her routine is slowly getting back on track, we have the right order, now we just need to work on the times and have everything spaced apart.
How did everyone elses night go, I hope it went well.
take care everyone, I will "see" you all tomorrow.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 01, 2005, 01:21:17 am
well it's 8:15 and most of the trick or treaters are done.  the odd group here and there.  I managed to get Cole down by 5:50 due to no catnap.  I also took the wires off the doorbell and put up a sign to knock.  I ended up just sitting in my front hall with a magazine and beat most of the kidders to the knock anyway.  Must have had about 75 kids I'd guess, lost count eventually. I had the monitor with me and heard him go in and out of his sleep cycles, praying that kids wouldn't shout too loud as I opened the door. 

All in all a successful day.  Aside from the 5:30 wake up, nap one from 8:15-9:30 and nap two from 12:30-2:00.  I tried for a 30 min. nap at 4:30 and he actually fell asleep but woke up 5 minutes later crying very hard.  Figured there was no sense in putting him back down.  he was great through dinner, bath and BF.  Counting my lucky stars this continues.

Going to meet Holly tomorrow at a mom and baby centre for Gulp and Giggle tea time.  Should be fun.  Expecting rain here so hopefully there will be a good turn out.  I am hoping to hook up with some people for play dates/moms groups.

Jo-hope the antibiotics kick in soon. I must have left the chat before DH got home with the news.  Just do what you must to get through the next few days.  Boy, you guys have sure been through a lot :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 01, 2005, 02:07:58 am
Ahhh - Halloween, thank goodness it's over for another year.  We go to a small town where our good friends' live and all go out together.  So after dinner as it's time to get costumes on K&H are upset because, well, not sure, let's just go with because they aren't at home - which is usually all the reason they need :)  Zoe's dressed in her cute cat outfit and Sarah is refusing to get dressed.  Being the still at times controlling parent that I am I tried to convince her in many ways to get dressed up.  Finally with her screaming and K&H both screaming I gave up.  Everyone esle went out and I fed the babes to calm them down.  Little Bear scored big time anyway dressed as the cranky toddler in the dirty shirt :) actually who was no longer cranky because mom gave up trying to make her wear a silly costume.  Heck the child rarely wants to wear clothes so how unrealistic of me to think she'd put on a full costume.  They were just running from house to house having a blast.  After nursing K&H I finally got them out and then proceeded to carry them while someone else pushed an empty double stroller :)

Teeth!!  OMG We have teeth.  Kaia has her two bottom ones and Hannah has one bottom one, working on the second.  AND Hannah has bitten me now a few times!! OUCH.  I shrieked the first two times which made her cry a bit and tonight I more calmly put my finger on her chin and said quietly "don't bite mommy".

I don't even want to talk sleep ladies!  Naps are still going fine.  Night sleep - it's worse than those first weeks.  It's insane and my goodness it needs to get better soon. My eyes are bloodshot all the time now - it's so pathetic.  I can't remember the last time I got more than 2.5hrs sleep at one time... usually I don't get more than 1.5hrs at a time.  Man and if all the girls are asleep now what kind of lunatic am I for being up and online? :)  Good point - I'm off to shower and go to bed.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 01, 2005, 02:27:43 am
Judy, I know we say it all the time, but I REALLY don't know how you do it with your crew and those girls refusing to be cooperative and actually let you get some sleep for a change.  Katie's been a mess with teething this past week, can't imagine it with two.  I feel like I give her too much Tylenol and Motrin, but otherwise she just screams all the time, poor sweetie.

Jo, glad to hear you at least have a culprit.  Katie is on her second cold in the past three weeks and I had that "but I'm breastfeeding, why is she sick" reaction too.  I've heard the antibiotics kick in pretty quickly though - poor little guy has been through a whole lot.  Have you tried elevating one end of his crib too?  That has worked for us as well as the vaporizer. 

Dh took Katie trick-or-treating tonight as I was at work.  Will post some pics when I get them off the camera and sort through (he took 60!). 

Pleasant sleep to all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 01, 2005, 02:55:14 am
Hey!  I'm back!  Good news is that I feel soo much better.  Bad News is that Claire caught my cold.  I substitute taught a couple of weeks ago and I think thats where I caught it in the first place.  She seems to be feeling much better today, but it was a rough weekend.  She was pretty crabby during the day and of course her grandparents were in town to see her.  :?  But amazingly, she had a couple of her best nights ever!  WTF!  :shock:  She could not breath through her nose at all. It must have been the cold medicine.  Her ped said that I could give her Pedia Care.  Its an OTC decongestant and cough supressant.  I only gave it to her at night and it really seemed to help.

Sounds like most of you had a great Halloween.   Claire was a bumble bee.  We only went to my mom' s and the IL's before she was zonked. Got home by 6 and put her to bed.  I keep meaning to extend by 15 min or so to eventually get to 7, which was her bedtime before the time change, but she is still so tired from her cold. 

BTW, have any of you noticed a decrease in milk intake since starting solids?  I'm still breastfeeding Claire, so its hard to know exactly how much she's getting, but it doesn't seem like she's taking as much.  I don't think I'm feeding too many solids.  Just 2tbls. of cereal with 1tbls. of fruit in the morning, 3 tbls. of veg at lunch and then 2 tbls. of cereal with fruit at dinner.  Does that sound about right? or do I need to cut back? Hmmmm.  :?

Here's to a good night's sleep!
Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 01, 2005, 03:03:39 am
Hey, girls!  Happy Halloween!   Ryan did great as we only went across the street and then to dh's grandparents (10 mins. away).  It rained here ALL DAY!  We had 9 trick or treaters total...we've never had more than 20 though.  Dh thinks our street must have a bad rep. and the fact that I gave out Halloween pretzels instead of candy will do nothing to help our reputation.  I just figured if there was no candy in the house, I couldn't eat any, right?  Totally selfish, I know.   :oops:
We had a weird day today.  Ryan woke at 5:45, but wne right back to sleep after a few pats.  Then, at 6:20 he was up again, so I fed him and he went back down until 7:30.  Two GREAT naps (1.5 and nearly 2 hours  :D ) but was up by 2:30.  I knew he'd need the catnap (he sleeps a lot more than other kids), but as he's been fighting it, I wasn't sure how it'd go.  Sure enough, we fought from 4:30-5:15, when he finally slept for 45 mins.  I wasn't even pushing the catnap; just didn't want him to be miserable tongiht.  He seemed so upset in bed, being cuddled, playing, even (gasp) watching a spot of Oprah with mommy.  He was much happier once Daddy came home!  (He's even started reaching out for him, which is enough to make you cry, isn't it?  My two favorite guys....)
Okay, enough from me...sorry so long.  This time change thing is wackin' us out!   :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 01, 2005, 03:57:32 am
Hello everybody... I love all the costumes and Hallowe'en stories. Hallowe'en is still going strong here. I have the doorbell ringing like crazy... by the time I hear the kids, they have rung the bell. I swear they RUN up the walk. Anyway, she hasn't woken up yet.

Well... this morning, my little miss "fight sleep" gal fell asleep all on her own, only to wake up really upset, 10 min. later. It took me over 40 minutes to get her to sleep. I nursed her but it didn't work so I tried it again 15 min. later and she fell asleep. She slept for 1 hr 45 min!!!

When the maid service came, she only slept for 45 and she went down at 5:00 for the 45 min. catnap (whew). She also fell asleep independently tonight. Not a peep, just went down... I checked on her twice... she had the 7 mile stare... then the 3rd time I checked (25 min. after putting her down), she was fast asleep. So, after 4 weeks of fighting, screaming, crying, it was a nice treat. I am not holding my breath though... we have 18 more teeth to go  :? .

Interesting thing about the teeth. Now that she has them, she can eat her Arrowroot cookie without making a mess. Makes DH very happy!

Jo, sorry to hear Fraser isn't feeling well. I hope he feels better soon.

Kate... DH hid the candy and only brought it out tonight at 6:00. In which time, between the 2 of us, we must have inhaled at least a dozen!

Jessica... YES!! Arwyn has been refusing her day BFs. She will only BF well when she wakes and the one before bed. All the others are "a sip". I think it may have something to do with me nursing her to sleep occasionally too. But, I have definitely noticed the refusal to BF.

Erin... DH is always telling me to give Tylenol to ease the pain. I am a drug free kinda person and he is drugged to the eyeballs so... Arwyn has only had Tylenol twice but I don't think it does any harm as long as the dosage is correct for their weight. My friend who is a doctor, gives it to her 7 month old all the time to ease his teething pain.

Judy... AH, sleep. I do believe it is short supply these days amongst us all but I really do feel for you. I read your Hallowe'en story in disbelief and if that were me, I would have hid in a closet until the 4 girls became adults. Hats off to you Judy!!! (BTW, if you recall... I wanted 4 children and the more I read...  :? ) Arwyn likes to gnaw too when she wants my attention. I always tell her I don't like it  :roll: and am waiting for the day she gets top teeth (NOT!).

Traci & Holly... have fun at Gulp and Giggle tea (Great name!)

Naomi... congrats on getting back on track! When do you start your new job? I forgot and I didn't catch you in time at the chat.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 01, 2005, 04:18:35 am
Hey girls, did you miss me today?  Dh took a sick day!! Always takes a little more of my time when that happens.  Actually, he and I had a great chat last night (after our chat) about libidos etc.  I will fill you in on the details later, or maybe on that declining drive thread :) 
It was so fun to chat last night.  I can't wait for the next one.
I have been reading and reading today but am going to wait til tomorrow to respond to your q's pics etc.  Loving all the info and stories for now.
Miraculously after going down at 5:30pm last night, Sophie woke at 5, then went back to sleep till 7!! Hooray!  I have to confess though, it was in bed with us
 :oops:
All of her A times were longer today, no catnap, down again at 6:45.  Good day.  We needed one.
Funny/scary story.  She has been carousing in her crib...I told you all..if I read it here, it happens to me eventually!  Anyhow, this morning I went in to check on her because she wasn't settling well.  She was completely turned around with her blankets on her head.  I could tell she was still playing, but as soon as I walked into the room, she was completely still, still under the blankets of course.like she was hiding or something it made me lol.
THEN, during her second nap, dh and I fell asleep.  We woke to her crying.  I went into her room to find her with one of her legs sticking out through the bars of the crib!!!!!  Typical me, I am a bit of a minimalist with baby stuff and I didn't see the need for a crib bumper...obviously I do now!  We went right out to get one tonight, and installed it.  We kept saying "Babies, please keep all appendages inside the crib"
OK, gotta go.  Gonna watch Bewitched.
Good sleeps to all.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 01, 2005, 04:31:03 am
Hi there!

Just a quick question about the cot bumper - I had heard they were one of the risk factors for SIDS and that they are not recommended.  Anyone know anything about that?  Is there a time when they become "safe"?

Cheers
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 01, 2005, 04:40:44 am
Hi all!  Sounds like the chat was fun.  I will really try to figure it out and try to join you all next week.  Trick or treaters are still going on here.  I almost went outside on the last group to tell them it really isn't necessary to ring the bell twice in 5 seconds.  Should have put up a sign.
Naomi-about Christmas presents.  I told IL to get Ben a stand and play activity center that has a variety of things to do when the LO stands.  I also requested one of those 3 in 1 toys that starts out as a little floor activity then changes into a walk and push toy then changes into a little sitting scooter.  I am going to also request lots of balls, some big push trucks for outside and more clothes.  My parents LOVE to give gifts!  We are probably going to get him some clothes-so exciting!!
We have the letters that go on the fridge and the 1 1/2 year old I watch loves them so much.  THey have been on our fridge since I was 6 months pregnant.  DH likes to dance to the music!
Traci-I massage my boobs a lot when I pump-sounds kinda gross.  This makes them express more I think!  Ben's poop is the same color as whatever he eats.
Karen-Thinking about you as you go to work.  So glad that you had a good first day back I am impressed.  On my days at work I find myself speeding to pick Ben up, I need to be more careful but I can't wait to see the little bugger.
Micky-Ben has sweaty hands and feet.  I am an extremely sweaty mongrel so maybe he inherited it.  The first thing I said to my DH and minister when I got to the alter on my wedding day was "wow I am so hot and sweaty"  Sometimes I am not sure if it is because he has his hands in his mouth constantly.  I smell them and yuck kinda stinky. 
Jessica-I am finding that Ben doesn't always drink a lot at his 3pm feed.  He is really distractable and into arching his back.  I worry that I am not going to produce enough if he is like that but have heard that your body changes with the needs of LO's super quick.  I am noticing that if he doesn't take a lot at one feed the next feed he eats a lot.
Some of you have talked about your LO's weaning themselves.  How do you know they are doing this?  Those of you who have weaned your LO's how did you do emotionally?  I was sad when I stopped the DF and am not looking forward to my emotions once I wean Ben completely...any advice?

We are working on the time change here.  OF course I am trying to get him back to normal instantly.  Tried a cat nap today and he wouldn't have it.  He woke up this morning at 5, I gave him a snack then he went back down until 7.  We'll see what tomorrow holds. 
If the lights are out doesn't that mean that trick or treaters aren't supposed to come.  I guess since I had to go next door to get more candy I might as well hand it out.
Good sleep for everyone. 
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 01, 2005, 06:47:30 am
Hallowe'en pic...
Daddy and his purple dragon!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 01, 2005, 06:54:09 am
Very cute pics everyone!  :D

No cot bumpers here either.  I'd always be finding Nathan with his arms and legs sticking out through the bars fast asleep or his head wedged into the corner.  What I did do though once he started moving around was remove everything from his cot so there was no suffocation factor.  I know different countries have different recommendations though.

Well I'm feeling a bit flat and overwhelmed with our diet changes here and crappy responses from my parents who are meant to be supportive is not helpful - being told "well this is just getting rediculous" when I say something else is now on the "no go" list.  Yeah, like I'm actually wanting to do this diet, we have absolutely no choice if we want a healthy child who lives a long complication free life.  Grrrrr. :evil:

Karen and Hayley - have either of you done kumura?  Did is constipate?  Danielle had a bit of a little cry this afternoon and when I checked her nappy there was a hard little poo in there, fortunately later she'd done a big one with normal texture again, but wondering if the kumura was the culprit.

Danielle's got yucky stinky sweaty feet too I just discovered today!  Ick, Nathan did too as a baby.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 01, 2005, 09:12:56 am
Nikki We do kumera (our sweet potato).  It's Fraser's favourite so he has it every day for lunch.  Everything else has been so hit and miss but he will always scoff it down!!  :D

We have had no trouble with constipation - very early on into solids I was concerned that it may have been constipation but I think it was just learning the new sensation - he still cries sometimes though.  But the consistency (would it be the consistency  :?: ) has always been ok and no rabbit like pellets so I am assured that means everything is ok.

Oh, BTW, we do mix the sweet potato with other stuff just in case you all think I'm a bit odd  :D  :D - he loves it with zucchini.  We've just introduced pureed chicken at lunch which has been going ok.  I'm trying broccoli tomorrow.

The rather bizarre health nurses over here recommend giving custards after the evening meal to help the LO's sleep through the night.  Anyone else heard this?  Seems a bit strange to me - I am not in any hurry to introduce sweets although I generally give straight pureed apple or pear after the evening rice or rice/vegetable mix.

So sorry you are feeling down about the new dietry limitations - celiac can be so very limiting I know.  But you are just trialling this new diet at the moment right?  Is there a chance that Nathan might mature out of the intolerance?  It is so hard when your parents aren't fully supportive - I get grief over having Fraser on EASY  :roll: and on reflux medication  :roll: .  (eg "Why are you trying to make him sleep?  He obviously doesn't want to sleep" and "your older brother had reflux but I just dealt with it, I didn't give him any medication".  etc etc!)  I wish I new the way to answer but I don't I'm sorry.  Hugs though.  Come here and vent anytime.

Bye for now!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 01, 2005, 11:19:36 am
thanks Bec, that will be handy.

just a quick note about the crib bumpers.  they are known as a SIDS risk and aren't recommended in Canada.  If you choose to still use them (was it hannah :? ) then make sure you remove them when she begins to pull herself up or she might use them as a step!

Cole got caught a couple of times too.  Now that he's in his Grobag his legs never get caught and his arm only got caught once in the last couple of months, resulting in no cat nap.

These 5:30 mornings are really wearing on me, but he went down at 5:50 last night, woke twice and went right back to sleep after feeding so I certainly won't complain given everyone else's sleep troubles.

good for you Ankie that things are getting better.

gotta go, lo getting into anything and everything
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 01, 2005, 12:48:37 pm
Bec - whata great idea.  I have some errands today one, getting ink for the printer and then I will print it out to have by the comp!

Great Pic Ankie - a couple of cuties!

Jo - I hope Fraser feel's better soon!

It looks like I may be heading home (Saskatoon, Canada) the beginning of December to surprise my mom for her 60th.  All she wants is to see her grandaughter for her birthday so I am going to deliver.

So, here's my question:  Do I spend more on an easier flight home or save some money and lose some sanity? 

I am keeping in mind that by the end of November we will lose my income but...here are the differences:

Easy flight:  Direct flight to Toronto (4 hours), overnight in TO but in a hotel by bath and bedtime, then next morning fly direct to Saskatoon (4 hours).  Good points is the travel day is broken up and Sophie can be in bed at decent times ect...also we don't have to deal with more than 1 airport and picking up of bags, which doing by yourself with a baby is tough.

Poopy Flight:  Grand Cayman to Miami (1 hour flight), 6 HOUR layover in Miami (the worst airport in the world), Miami to Minneapolis (3 hours) 3 hour layover in Minneapolis, then Minn. to Saskatoon another 3 hours.  I leave Cayman at 7AM I arrive in Saskatoon at 11:30PM :shock: !

The difference is about $300 not including the hotel in Toronto, I am  thinking now that I have seen it written down, that it may be worth my sanity!!

Also, the IL are coming here to visit the last weekend in November, we will be moving house and then I will be doing this traveling - plus finishing up my job.....I am tired already! 


Sorry for the long post but any opinions would be appreciated!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 01, 2005, 13:27:17 pm
Richelle,  I believe that is a no-brainer.  Take the good flight.  I know money might be tight but $300 isn't too bad a difference. And keep in mind what Miami likely just went through (part of hurricane, no?)...not sure what condition an already poor airport will be in now.

I wish we had more room at our place so I could offer you a comfy place to stay.  It's a min. 30 min. drive away also which is a drag :oops:

Let me know your arrival/departure times, maybe we could do dinner/coffee.  Also, if you get a nice hotel, I could even just sit with Sophie while she sleeps while you go down and have a hot tub or sauna or something to relax.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 01, 2005, 14:46:47 pm
Richelle, I would say spend the $300 - that last three hour flight could be just horrible with a most like very overtired LO at that point in time.  I think that 16 hour nightmare would make me cranky, much less a baby. Maybe if it's a real money issue one of your family members could split some of it with you as a present to your mom.

Jo - I think in the US crib bumpers are ok - Katie likes to smush her head against hers when she sleeps.  I have heard what Traci said though, that once Fraser starts standing you should remove them so he can't use it as a step to get out of his crib.

Nikki - So sorry about the diet "advice" - I'm sure as Nathan actually gains some weight and starts sleeping better it will all be worth it and everyone will see how right you are.

In the meantime - anyone's LO temporarily stop eating solids for a few days?  Katie was eating well for the past few weeks and since Saturday has pretty much refused all solids.  However, she's gt a cold, she's teething, so who knows?  She's still nursing well and having lots of wet diapers, so I don't think I should be worried, but any thoughts?

Thanks all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 01, 2005, 14:51:45 pm
Traci - LOL yes it is a no brainer, especially after actuall writing out the differences!! :roll:

Thanks so much for the very kind offer!!  I am most likely going to be inToronto overnight on the 14th of Dec.  I have yet to book the flight but I believe I get in at 4PM and leave the following morning at 10AM.  I am looking into hotels closest to the airport.  I hope it can stay a surprise for my mom - she will be thrilled!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 01, 2005, 14:57:37 pm
Erin - Claire is just getting over her cold and she wasn't taking very many solids either.  I think it was because her nose was sooo stuffed that she had trouble closing her mouth for very long to swallow.  Also, I don't think she had much of an appetite with all of the drainage. Gross, I know  :? 

Richelle - If you can do it, I say definately take the easier trip!  My cousin has a 4 yr. old and a 2 yr. old.  She flies back to Omaha a lot when her husband is away on business.  She will avoid layovers at all costs (they have the $$) after she was once stuck in Minneapolis for 8 hours with 2 overtired children!


I took Claire's  crib bumbers off too.  I wasn't sure when it was safe to put them back on again, but I think I might because she is getting her legs caught too.  On the other hand though, I have seen her rubbing the bars in her sleep.  Too cute.   :D

Thats all I have for now.  Have a great day!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 01, 2005, 14:58:48 pm
Erin, we posted at the same time!! :D   Sophie went off her solids and the breast due to teeth, well that is what the ped. said anyway.  Sophie did have an off time for a few days but then came right back around.  Happy belated Birthday by the way.. :oops:

I have crib bumpers here and funny enough it has sort of become Sophies lovie :shock:   She flops over on her side and curls her arm around it and pulls her self right against it with her little hand poking between the rails, it is very cute!  I didn't know about the stepping thing though - good to know!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 01, 2005, 15:05:29 pm
I forgot to ask.  When do you shift naps to more of a schedule, as in the same time everyday regardless of wake time?  I'm still going by activity time and sleepy cues because Claire wakes up for the day anywhere from 5:45 to 7 am.  Her naps usually end up being with in an hour of the same time everyday.  Are some of you using the clock? Hope this makes sense.

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 01, 2005, 17:41:08 pm
Hey Jessica,

I kind of do a combination of awake time and clock time.  When he gets up early like today (5:20) I usually stretch him a little in order to get him to a more reasonable nap time.  Of course I stretched him a little too much and he had a 30 min. nap.  At least I think that's why it was 30 min. :wink:   I am trying to work towards 9am and 1pm naps.  Right now we're around 8:15 and 12:30.  Yesterday was ideal for me, napped 8:15-9:30 and 12:30-2:00, then no catnap so he went to bed kind of early.

What I'm trying to say in a not so direct manner is that I find I need to watch the clock with DS more than cues...as he doesn't show many cues at all.  Not sure this helps but maybe it does :?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 01, 2005, 19:22:13 pm
Hi Ladies, just wanted to post some quick pics for Brady dressed up before he went to bed last night, and as you know I use the term went to bed loosley...lol

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 01, 2005, 19:24:13 pm
oops lets try this again
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 01, 2005, 19:26:37 pm
I'm not going to have a computer again until Thursday, so I just wanted to let you know why i'm MIA. Getting it fixed again.  I'll catch up with all of you on Thursday....In the mean time, I hope all your lo are getting sleep....

Hugs
Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 01, 2005, 19:30:03 pm
Jessica - Sophie has set nap times, no matter when she wakes up.  Some days I may put her down 10 or 15 minutes early if she got up really early but for the nanny I am fairly rigid about her nap times.

9 - 10:15
1 - 2:15
4:30 - 5:15
7 or 730 Bed

I think we are in the process of dropping the catnap, I will then move her bedtime up and stretch her naps longer?  I still am confused about this bedtime/catnap business, some days I am sure we are finished with the catnap and then a few days in a row she will go down without a peep...sigh...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 01, 2005, 22:07:04 pm
NIKKI, Sam has been constipated and I cannot for the life of me figure out what is causing it. Kumara was one of the first foods and he seemed fine, we have not added anything new apart from cooked chicken in a bottle. He has a cube of prunes a day now and so far, no improvement.
I only know how to puree veges. Any advice on how to puree chicken as I am only giving commercial stuff but would like to do some of my own.
JO, how do you do pureed chicken?
I am at a loss about no catnap/bedtime so any advice welcome. Last couple of days, Sam has refused his catnap and we put him to bed about 20 minutes earlier but then we get 5 am waking!!!! Do we just put him to bed at the same time but then he would have been awake 4 hours!!! Plus he is sooo tired.
Take care all,
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 01, 2005, 22:35:08 pm
Hi Ladies!  I have sooo missed you all.  I went back and looked and it has been a full week since I posted and 20 pages later!!! :shock:  :shock:
This last week has just been really busy for us with 3 different play dates, a "house work" day on the weekend where we left Taylor at Grandma's house, and getting ready for the big day (we had a party with 20 adults and 8 kids).  So basically we've been around but just super busy.  Sorry I missed the chat too! :cry:   Will have to catch you guys eithre this Wed. or next week.

So, an update...(sorry, but there is no way I can even attempt to catch up, but I did read the last few pages, so hopefully should suffice).  First off, LOVE all of the Halloween pictures.  As soon as we download ours I will post as well, if anyone recalls, Taylor was going to be Minnie Mouse. 
We have a crib bumper as well, and Taylor loves staring/talking to it.  She is moving quite a bit in her crib, so sometimes we will go in and find her face smashed against it which kind of freaks me out so we move her a tad...but I have read that SIDS is drastically reduced after 6 months, so I left it.  They are quite common here in America...everyone I know has one, if that means anything.
Constipation, oh yes, I know what that is all about! :)   I finally gave her a suppository last week which did the trick and oh boy, was she plugged up!  Poor thing I have no idea how she could have so much poop in her!!!
Since then I gave her one drop of little tummys, as well as changed to Barley cereal instead of rice.  I also give a little but of prunes at all meals.
I also have to spoon feed her water if she is not having a good sippy cup day, on the advice of my pediatrician.

Other than that, we had a rough couple of nights with multiple night wakings last week, but I think due to the constipation.
She has not catnapped since last Monday, so I'm thinking it is gone for now.
Lastly, she has been waking up at 6 am for 8 days now (it was 5 am for one day right after the time change, but went back to 6 on Monday).  The first 2 days I got up and fed her and she went right back to sleep.  On the 3rd day I thought, hummm, this is becoming a habit, so no feed and patted her back to sleep.  So for the last 6 days she wakes up at 6am precisely and can pretty much go back to sleep after fussing for about 2 min., but only sleeps for 5-10, then up again.  Basically she fusses off and on for 1 hour before I finally get her up at 7.  WHAT DO YOU THINK SHE IS TRYING TO TELL ME???  Is she hungry so should I feed and put her back down for 1 hour?  Or should I try wake to sleep, eventhough it isn't technically the middle of the night?  Don't really know what to do at this point :roll:  :?:   8 days in a row, so I'd defintely call it a habit.

Anyhow, sorry for being such a stranger.  I did really miss you all!  Glad to see Holly is still here and am hoping things have improved with your ds.  Naomi, Nicki, Traci, Hannah, Hayley, Judy, ANkie, Richelle, Erin, Jo, Bec, Jessica, Kate, Karen and the list goes on and on......, thanks for always being here, even when I go MIA for a few days! :D
Have a great day, Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 01, 2005, 22:47:43 pm
We missed you too Andrea!  Especially at the chat - hope you can make it to the next one!!  Sorry I can't help with the night wakings, what with illness and everything we've got going on here we have night wakings and early starts every day.  OH SO TIRED...  But perhaps once you work it out, could you let me know??  :wink:

Karen - pureeing the chicken - OK, I poach the chicken breast, just in water, a slow cook over low heat like a casserole.  I think I left it about an hour or thereabouts.  I then chucked it in the blender and added a bit of the cooking water and wizzed it.  It is mighty gross I would say  :P   Anyway, it's not completely smooth - I haven't bought the jarred stuff so I don't know if that is completely smooth - but when I mix it with the veges he tolerates it fine.  I'm only doing 1 cube at the moment with 3 of sweet potato and 2 of green veg but will increase it to 2 cubes once he gets a bit more used to it.  I have heard you can do the same with veal as a good first meat.  Otherwise I guess you could do the same principle but chuck the meat and the veg in the blender all together - you might get a smoother consistency??  Any way, that's what I did - don't know if it's "right" but it seemed to work.

Cheers!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 01, 2005, 23:31:13 pm
Thanks for that about chicken Jo!  I am thinking of doing that soon.  Danielle's having about 8-10 different veg and fruit now (I only do the 3 day rule) and scoffing it all down.  It's quite handy, I won't really need to cook ahead of time like I did with Nathan because I'm basically cooking him lunch most days anyway, so she just gets some of his veges mashed (she's now onto a chunkier texture).  I think you're right about her probably not being constipated, just unused to the the thicker texture because it wasn't hard and pellety.

Jo with the celiac, we basically are committed to it for life now - the blood result was positive, and it's an auto-immune disease, so not just an intolerance which is what I initially though which means every time he comes in touch with gluten it will attack his body.  So 100% for ever - I was kind of grieving yesterday thinking about how he won't be able to easily have meals out, no take aways, no drinking beer with his mates  :cry: - but I feel a bit better about it today, and my mum apologised without me even mentioning anything!  :D

Anyway, better get these two ready for their nap.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 02, 2005, 00:21:24 am
Andrea-of course we missed you!  let me know when you solve the early wakings and I'll hop on board your solution.

Well-I jinxed myself yesterday ladies.  Can't remember exactly what I said but something about Cole being easy and sleeping well.  LOL, that is so OVER.  30 min. nap, 45 min. nap, 40 min. nap on the boppy in my lap after feeding to sleep.  Down for bed after 1 hour of screaming, pupd, feeding and holding and rocking to sleep :?  The one thing I don't like is when I leave him to settle now I never know if he's standing up crying like he was for catnap and for bed or lying down just trying to settle.  I leave the door open now so i can try to peak in.  It could be one of two things a) teeth-but how long could it possibly take for these things to come in b) too much going on the last few days...need to chill out with him for a bit.

I am thinking it's b.  Saturday, Sunday and yesterday were all hectic.  Met Holly today after 30 min. nap.  Cole was great while there but had trouble going down for second nap.  They told me a new sign language class was starting from 2-3 so I hightailed it back for 2 only to be told it was cancelled :twisted:   so i went to walmart to pick up a few things.  I think I've just been running around with him too much lately...and with the time change too.  So, staying around the house for the next couple of days. Hopefully no rain so we can get out for our afternoon stroll.

And you know, I haven't been able to soothe him to sleep with a pat, a jiggle or anything for weeks now.  I'll go in and stay with him and do all that stuff but he's always up on his hands and knees and I can't get him down.  So as long as he knows I'm around I leave and give him 5. If he doesn't settle I go try again...but he always needs to do it by himself and I don't like it at all.  I wish I could just give him a pat, a reassuring hand on his back or something :oops:

okay, really behind now on getting dinner and such ready.  I just hope he doesn't wake up at 45 min. screaming.  poor smuggies.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 02, 2005, 02:02:43 am
Hi, girls! 
Andrea, so glad to see you back!  We knew you could never leave us for long  :wink: , not that you'd want to, of course.
This time change is for the birds, I tell ya!  Poor Ryan, or more accurately, dh.  I was at my 6 am aerobics class (which is why we were trying to train him to sleep til 8 so it'd be 7 after time change.  No luck.   :?)  He was up at 6:00 and dh tried patting back to sleep, but he wouldn't do it.  Got him up and realized there was a MAJOR poopy diaper.   Tried to change him in the dark, but Ryan was dressed in a onesie, pj's and socks, then another set of pj's.  (We are ErinM/Katie wannabes!   :D )  So, he gets it all undone and the diaper is open.  Ryan then wriggles around and SPLAT!  foot with sock goes right in the pile of poop.  So, Matt whips off the sock and poop goes flying everywhere...on dh, on the diaper pad, on the outer pj's. Matt turned on the lights to see (without realizing he got poop on Switchy the Fishy, Ryan's favorite friend/lightswitch, which I found at about 5 pm :roll: ) and sees more poop IN THE MIDDLE OF RYAN'S FOREHEAD!   :shock:   Gross!!!  So, he got everything sort of wiped up and then popped Ryan in the bath.  He was playing happily when I got home, but dh looked majorly frazzled.  He got a big kiss and now Ryan has a new nickname to add to the list: PoopFace.  (Just kidding...sort of!)
His mom (my mil) was so glad he had to deal with a situation like this.  She thinks it's so easy for moms to always deal with this crap (pun intended) and the men just skate by and never have to get in the trenches.  Gotta love her!
So, it was a bit of a hectic morning, then threw off naps and feeds all day, but he did fine and even went to bed with a minimum of fussing. Hooray! 
Okay, off to hang with dh...he deserves some snuggles after this am!  (And, I really do mean snuggles...we're too tired for anything more!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 02, 2005, 03:17:43 am
hi guys!!

good to see you back andrea!!

LOL!!! Kate!!!  I have a very vivid image in my head of all the poop everywhere!!  So funny!!

Traci-Jack and I are on the same boat as you! :shock:  :roll:  He has been having one 1 1/2 hour or 45 min nap a day then two 30 min naps. I don't know if it him trying to cut back on day sleep or what but he generally has been waking happy so I've just been going with the flow.  He hasn't been showing very many sleepy signs either.  Only the ones he shows after being up for an hour! :roll:  So I'm not likely to put him down for a nap then....so I've been keeping him up and finally put him down after 3 hours up! :roll:   I don't know if I'm keeping him up too long???  He's not showing sleepy signs after 3 hours at all until I start doing the wind-down with him.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 02, 2005, 03:32:35 am
Welcome back, Andrea!

We had an okay day today. When I last posted, Arwyn had settled herself to sleep for a nap or something... well... she did it again today for her morning nap. Also, our catnap is back. After 2 weeks plus of no catnap, suddenly, it is back, much to mommy's pleasure!! I think it was teeth. Now that the 2 bottom ones are through, she seems less fussy at sleep times although we are still struggling with night wakings that I have inadvertently made into habit by feeding her. She was not getting any BFs during the night up until 3 weeks ago. She was very difficult to console so I started putting her on my breast again... and now, I have habitual wakings again. :roll:

The day was only okay because Arwyn got up an hour earlier than normal. We have swim lessons on Tues. and I really wanted her nap to be on track but...  :? So, we started heading out to her swim lesson when she was really supposed to be going down for a nap :roll: . She managed fine as she really loves the water but I knew it would be a struggle to get her down when we got home.

Arwyn is only having about a cube (1 oz.) of solids per meal. It sounds like everybody else is having more. I don't have a guide or anything... does anybody else have something they are following?

Kate... Umm... EWW? on the poop! Good thing DH got to experience it. :wink: Happy snuggling!

Jessica... I do a combo of watching the time and Arwyn's cues. I know what her awake times tend to be between each nap so I try to go by that and depending on her behaviour, will try to shorten or lengthen to get back on track. I know this doesn't really help but it kinda makes sense to us here. I also track her sleep so I know generally when she should nap. Usually it is around 9 am and then again at 12:30/1:00 ish. The catnap, when it appears, it around 5:00 or 5:30 ish.

Hopefully I can catch you all at the chat tomorrow!
Goodnight  :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 02, 2005, 04:22:06 am
Kate-so funny about the poop.  I was laughing out loud!  The dog looked at me funny!
Nikki-glad to hear that your mom is being more understanding about the diet. 
Richelle-hope you got the costly ticket... you will be rewarded in the end.
Erin-Ben has had troubles going on and off solids.  I just keep giving them to him at the scheduled times.  Today I waited until the babysitter had left and added another 20 minutes and he gobbled them down.
Constipation issues.  Soon after I changed from rice to barley Ben left his non pooping days at the door.  He is not going as frequently as before but seems to poop every day to every other day.  I am off to sleep.  Wondering if the little bugger will wake at 5.  I missed the nick name mania and had to think of some of the ones we use.  Baby-very original.  I am trying to get out of the habit of calling Ben the same nicknames that we use with the dog, I also use them for DH!
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 02, 2005, 12:40:08 pm
Hi Ladies,

LOL - Kate, I really did then that made Sophie laugh - whata great way to start the day :shock: poor DH!

Welcome Back Andrea, I was wopndering where you were...

Nikki - Glad your mom apologized, must have made you fell better!

Ankie - It is good to hear that Arwyn is sorting herself out.

Micky - Is Jack's surgery still on schedule? 

Sophie too has been waking early 4AM today :shock: but I leave her as she just talks to herself and she went back down.  She then still wakes at 6 or 630, which I am sure is her limit without food!  Luckily we don't change time here - what a pain :? !

I have booked my ticket - the easy flight!  What was I thinking even entertaining the other one :roll: !  So yes, Traci I will be in Toronto Dec. 14th, it would be nice to have a coffee or something - let me know!

Sophie was off yesterday and when I felt her head she felt hot - her temp was 100.7 - poor thing.  I gave her some tylenol twice as her fever came back late afternoon.  She is constantly pulling her ear as well,  she must be working on teeth #3 & #4.   SHe seems to be better today and she gobbled up her breakfast....

What time is the chat tonight?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 02, 2005, 14:43:34 pm
Kate-LOL at the poop head.  poor ryan.  good on DH for running a bath. my DH would likely have just used a wipe!  Cole had a huge up the back poop this morning (WTH?) and I woke DH to help me.  Too much mess with such a mobile little guy.

Richelle-Chat is 9:00 NY time.  (is that EST?  I don't know)  Hopefully we can meet when you're here, just realized it's a weeknight.

well, I was wrong, it IS teeth. lower left tooth, two white spots showing now instead of just one.  a girlfriend just called to go to another show downtown.  guess my adaptable little guy will get tested again.  accidentally "on purpose" parented (fed) him to sleep for first nap.  That was after bringing him to bed after waking at 4.  Oh well.  This too shall pass, right girls :wink: 

Hope I can make the chat.  Think DH would like to spend more time with me.  I'm always glued to this machine.

have a good day everyone.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 02, 2005, 15:10:32 pm
Quote from: mickymuscles
Approx. Daily Food Intake for 6-8 months
formula----------24-32oz.
dry infant cereal----4-8Tbsps
veggies--------4-8 Tbsps
fruit----------4-7 Tbsps
meat------3-6 Tbsps
juice (optional)----3-4 oz.

offer veggies and fruits once cereal is accepted
veggies should be unsalted
fruits and juices should be unsweetened
offer single pureed meat after fruits and veggies are accepted
well-cooked egg yolk can be given.  Egg white should not be given until one year because it is a common allergen.

Ankie, Mickey (sp?) posted this from her ped. a few weeks ago...on page 40!  I printed it out for myself.  I was worried I was feeding too much, but I think we are on track or on the lower end, so it made me feel much better!
Here's to a great day for all!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 02, 2005, 15:18:16 pm
Teeth....ugh...I just keep thinking, she only has to get 10, she already has 3, one more is on its way in, so after that, only 6 to go!!  Taking Katie to the doctor in a bit, as we are going on day 8 of her cold with no real improvement...and she's stopped eating, not nursing too well...sigh

Kate - I was laughing here too - I often worry about changing Katie in the middle of the night with all those clothes on....and apparently my solution is just to send DH to do so.    :lol:

Welcome back Andrea!

Nikki - DH has a cousin who is about 14 and was diagnosed with Krohn's a few years ago (which came as a relief, as she was constantly in and out of the hospital before that) - she has tons of dietary restrictions, but she does really, really well with it.  And come to think of it, I've had a few good friends who are diabetic and they're fine with it too.  My very muddled point here, is that Nathan will be fine, it's great that you caught it early, and long term I'm sure he'll live with it very nicely.  Good that you got that apology though, I'm sure it made things easier.

Traci - best of luck with the teeth and the naps!

Holly - love the pics!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 02, 2005, 16:27:18 pm
Good morning ladies,

Thanks Kate for the feeding chart... I had forgotten about Micky posting that. Thanks Micky for posting that information! Don't know what I would do without you gals! So... after looking at that chart, I have more questions. Arwyn will normally only accept 1-2 tbsp. of any type of solids... some days I offer cereal first, some days, veggies or fruit. She is not a fruit fan but likes her peas and yams. Any suggestions on how to up the quantity? Should I feed her the solids first? I was told to always BF first but this is contrary to BW.

Hi Macaire!! Nice to hear from you. :)

Traci... hope Cole feels better with his teeth. You are right, this too, shall pass!

Erin... I hope Katie is feeling better soon. BTW, what do you mean by 10 teeth? Don't children have 20 baby teeth? Or... my memory is very bad???

Nikki... I am glad you have found the diet works for Nathan. My mother is a true believer that foods can affect your life and you can make it work for you. :) So... good for you on finding a solution and sticking to it. I know people will have comments... they always do. :roll:

Richelle... good for you on booking the "easy" flight. You and Sophie will have a much happier commute for it! Enjoy your time in Saskatchewan. Do you normally have a white Christmas there? Glad Sophie is feeling better!

Arwyn is settling down now after a MONTH  :shock: of unsettled behaviour. BUT, now, I think she has come down with a cold. It woke her up last night at 10:30 and I just DF her. I could hear that she was all stuffed up and she was nursing funny because she couldn't breathe through her nose, poor girl. Then she decided to get 10 min. of shut-eye before waking up at 11. She was awake for 30 minutes at which time, I decided to lay down with her, preparing to sleep on the futon with her for the night. She lay down wide awake with me and quiet... was asleep in less than 10 so... I transferred back to her crib and crawled into bed myself.

Well... she woke at 3 am and was fed... and was up at 6 for the day. She is definitely sick... she can't breathe and is coughing each time she snuffles (I assume from the post nasal drip?) and was tired before her A time was up. I hope this too, will pass.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 02, 2005, 16:45:41 pm
hi guys!

I hope all is well in nap-land!!  :D   

Ankie-we've been feeding solids first for about a month (on ped's advice-since Jack was drinking 6-8oz at every feed and eating some solids).  Now Jackson is eating solids first (probably 2-4 oz) then I offer him a bottle to wash it down and he'll take anywhere from 4-8 oz.  His midday snack (3pm) I just give a bottle so that I know he gets one good formula feed for sure per day.

Richelle-as far as I know Jack's surgery is still on for the 9th.  I won't know for sure if it's postponed until the 8th when I get a confirmation call from the OR.

talk to you all again (I'm sure) later!! :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 02, 2005, 16:59:08 pm
Oh Ladies, what a relief to hear I am not the only with a crazy child! :twisted:   Here I thought she was such an angel, as she has been sleeping great since she was about 10 weeks and would usually not make a peep until 7-7:30 for the longest time.  Well those days are gone and I don't know how to get them back!!!  But it is some consolation that we are pretty much all in the same boat.  I traced my calendar and pretty much came up with this:
 :arrow: T started waking up almost every night before her DF about 2 months ago!  I think by us going in and just giving her a bottle because it was onlu 15 minutes early, then 30, now 1 hour early has created a habitual waking.  I think this weekend I am going to try and wean her from the DF (starting to feed at 9:45, then 9:30, etc.)
 :arrow: about 1.5 months ago she started doing the 5 am wake up which we would go in and pat her back to sleep, which I think she has gotten used to.
 :arrow: last Monday she started now waking up at 6 am instead of 5 but won't settle back down to sleep unless I feed.  (this started before the time change, so know that is not it.)
 :arrow: Last night was one of our worst in a VERY long time.  Up at 9:50, so DF, then up at 2:20 and settled rather quickly after I picked her up, up at 5 am and settled after DH held her for about 15 min., then up at 6 am and wouldn't settle until I fed at 6:30...I put her in her crib to go get dressed and she fell back asleep!!! :roll:  :evil:   I then woke her at 7:15 and she was of course mad, but I said "you can't sleep whenever you feel like it!"  :roll:  :oops:   I think this is getting to me, NO?!?! :lol:

 :?: There are no teeth coming in that we can see.  No constipation anymore, no sickness.  She is already sitting up, and I don't think is close to crawling yet.  So what the Heck???  I am going to re-read some of the BWSAYP and the Weissulbuth book and try to formulate a plan by the weekend.

Sigh, so enough about me ladies.  Sorry! :oops:

Nicki-I am so sorry to hear about Nathan, but as Erin said so well, I'm sure he will live with it just fine.
Ankie, what I have been doing is BF for the first feeding, then solids 1/2 hour later (she will eat about 1.5 cubes at breakfast).  Then for lunch I offer solids first because she is not so starving when seh wakes up at this time (she'll eat 2-3 cubes).  then bf at 3, then dinner at 5:30ish where she'll eat 2tbsp of cereal, and 2 cubes.  Good luck, but don't worry too much.  My friends lo is also not eating much and the ped. said not to worry, just continue to offer.

Kate-sooo funny about the poop!  poor dh

Micky-I'm with you on the naps, Taylor too is waking up happy, so I am going with the flow.  She seems to always make up for a short nap lately, so trying not to worry.  so if she has a short am nap, then a long pm nap, and vice versa.

Traci-it sounds like you are in the same boat as me about a week ago, when I said "I feel like a loser".  Well, I stayed home with T for 5 days to get her back on track, and look at where we are now.  So my point is, enjoy yourself, because I think no matter what we do, they are all screwy right now! :lol:

Long enough post ladies....THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WELCOME BACKS!!!  I REALLY DID MISS YOU ALL SO MUCH (ISN'T THAT WEIRD TO MISS PEOPLE I'VE NEVER MET?).  I will try to make the chat tonight.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 02, 2005, 17:01:52 pm
one more thing ladies, Repeat after me:

"they are babies, not robots.  they are babies, not robots!"  this is what DH tells me when she is not conforming to the plan! 

let's all try to remember, they haven't read the books right? 

Please someone remind me of this when I am ready to jump off a bridge! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 02, 2005, 17:08:26 pm
OMG dh has been home sick the last two days!!!  He is funny, he thinks that just because he's home "sick" (not too sick IYKWIM) I should just sort of drop my day and hang out with him.
He did help me do a few things that I was needing to get done so that was nice, but he's not too keen on me checking in here  :?   So I've been missing out on all the conversations.
I did just check out the photo gallery and got to see some gorgeous pics of some of you ladies!  How fun to put faces with name.
Speaking of names...thanks for the name sheet Bec??  I had to lol...I thought I was organized. 
And speaking of lol...the poop stroy katie was too funny.  Your poor dh.
And speaking of poop  :wink: Sophie was doing great, and now she seems to be pooping pellets...but not straining, oh well.
OK, Richelle, definately the smart decision on the traveling thing. Traveling can be so hard with lo...especially if there are any delays.  Dh and I went to Chicago to visit my family this summer with Sophie and he went home a week before I did to go back to work.  I had to fly back with her alone.  As I have mentioned, she only drinks ebm, and so I have always pumped.  Well, this trip was at about 3 months so I was still needing to pump about every 4-6 hours (at the longest!)  I was pushing the pumping window for the flight to begin with and then...of course murphy's law the flight was delayed by about 4 hours!!! By the time we arrived in Seattle, my shirt was drenched in milk and my boobs were like bowling balls. Sophie was drenched too as she was sleeping on my lap...it was a mess.  I pumped in the car on the way home after getting the pump from the checked baggage.  Traveling as a bfing mom must be easier??
Anyhow, just my little story.
Welcome back to Andrea.
Funny about the crib bumpers....I swear mom's looked at me like I was mommy dearest when I said I didn't want them.  Somedays I truly think I was born in the wrong country :)
Traci...I had to lol also at your fly lady reminders...and by the way....I don't even really have shoes that lace...at least not the shoes I wear most of the time...does this mean I can't be a fly baby?? :wink:
OK, speaking of fly babies...I gotta go catch up on all of the chores I didn't do while dh was home. 
Jo- how do you and dh get everything done while working?  Does dh stay home with Fraser?  How IS Fraser?
Hope all of the lo's are feeling better with colds etc.
Nikki- I have a crazy snowboarding/ice hockey/car racing friend with celiac...he still find LOADS of gluten free alcohol to drink when out with his buddies... :lol:
I MIGHT chat tonight but I tink I'm in the same boat as traci, needing to spend more time with dh...
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 02, 2005, 17:59:17 pm
Well, I thought Sophie was OK this AM but she had a minor melt down at lunch when I tried to feed her??!!  So, I skipped the solids and she drank her usual 6oz of milk, then was still mumping and she started with the ear pulling again.  I know some people say not to drug a baby but if I know it is going to make Sophie feel better why wouldn't I give her some tylenol?  So, I gave her some and 25 minutes later gone was the mumpy little girl and I tried lunch again and she gobbled up her 4oz of solids :shock:  :) !

She has been napping ok, this morning she screamed bloody murder at the 45 minute mark :shock: and when I went in she was fast asleep.

Andrea - no, you are not alone!!  I have nothing to offer in regards to the DF as we have never done it.

I too forgot about the solids amounts post, good to know. 

Kate - I thought we were feeding Sophie alot too but I guess not!

Anyone not making there lo's food - do you feed your lo's meat?  I can't bring myself to feed Sophie it - I go by the rule: If I won't eat it, I shouldn't expect Sophie to!!  I suppose I will maybe try and make her some chicken - thanks Jo for the tip!

I should run, I have a tonne of errands....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 02, 2005, 18:33:07 pm
hi guys!!  Just had to pop in and say "YIPPY"!!! :D   dh had too much SNOW!!!  can you believe that!!??!!  So he gets to come home tonight after being gone for about 3 weeks!!  I hope he gets to stay home until the surgery now! :D

Richelle we feed Jack meat here.  But we are a meat eating family.  We have friends that are veggies and they don't feed their LO meat....he eats alot of different kinds of beans etc to get his protein.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 02, 2005, 20:30:54 pm
Thanks everyone!  Hannah, I'm sure he won't be deprived when out drinking with his mates - somehow though I'm kind of cringing at the thought of him drinking spirits as a teen and not beer (the drinking age is 18 here and most start about 16!). I know Nathan will do great and we'll all adjust just fine. :D 

Sorry for those of you having rough nights, I still feed Danielle once a night and know she doesn't need it since her wake up can be 2am or 5am?  :?  I just haven't tackled the problem yet.  I don't feed her for long in the night and I also get a little annoyed in the morning when she won't feed well because of it.  :oops:

Karen, I decided to not do up Danielle's safeTsleep just now for her nap and she's not settling, started crying, I went down there and she was really annoyed to have her head against the top of the cot, hmmm, hating the thought of weaning it.

Have a good day/evening everyone!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: JacobMarksMummy on November 02, 2005, 21:01:51 pm
Hi everyone, I kept seeing your thread pop up on the last active posts bit so I thought I would join you all and introduce myself as you all have done. My name is Naomi but everyone calls me Nome, I have been married to DH for nearly two years. I fell pregnant with my DS whilst training to be a nurse and he was born on the 26th April at 2.34am and weighed in at 7lb10oz. I have recently decided not to return to university and DH and I have decided  to start trying for another baby! Jacob is a spirited/textbook baby and I notice he was born on the same day as some of your baby's. That it, hope to post again soon!

Nome
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Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 02, 2005, 21:51:16 pm
what a wonderful name you have...lol
Welcome aboard to our craziness, just to let you know we have a chat of all of us on sunday nights at 9pm EST, so 1am for you unfortunately.
Another thing, my mum lives in skegness, and used to live in grantham. SO it caught my attention to where you live.
Just wanted to welcome you aboard... look forward to hearing more from you.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 02, 2005, 23:17:39 pm
Welcome Nome and Jacob!  This place is a lot of fun even if some of us are a little crazy :P

Girls, I am so utterly baffled by my little guy.  Fed to sleep for first nap, second nap in stroller-friend has anbesol with her so I rubbed some on for him.  He cried a bit but then slept.  Fed to sleep for catnap.  I just thought I'd have one heck of a time getting him down for sleep and he went out without so much as a peep, only 1:15 after waking from catnap :?   One difference I can think of is after seeing the solids chart I gave Cole more for dinner.  I wonder if he's been hungry?  He's so active all the time and I've only been giving him total of about 8 tbsp a day.  The main reason for that is because he hasn't had many different things yet.  Anyway, gave him 4 tbsp rice made with 2 oz EBM, 2 tbsp carrot and 2 tbsp sweet potato.

Oh, and maybe he's just ready to drop the catnap?  but that wouldn't explain the fight to get him down for first nap today :oops:  :?  :oops:

I hope he stays down and I haven't counted my blessings too soon.

Still hoping to make the chat.  But I've got to prepare dinner as well as apples and broccoli for cole.  YUM!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 02, 2005, 23:27:02 pm
Welcome Nome!  This is a great thread.  Anytime your lol is doing something wonky, you can bet you'll find others experiencing the same thing!

Thanks for the nap info to those of you who shared.  Claire's sleep has been all over the place and I'm trying to get to the root of it.  Maybe there is no "root".  Sounds like we're all going through similar experiences.! Andrea you are not alone!

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 03, 2005, 02:25:05 am
Andrea - If you don't mind, can you fill me in briefly on what weissbluth says about naps? eg how many, what time for this age etc?? I've probably had less than 10 naps longer than 45mins EVER !
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 03, 2005, 02:43:16 am
Welcome Nome and Jacob - nice to hear from you!

Ankie - LOL, yes babies get 20 baby teeth, not 10 - I was telling DH my theory later on this morning, and he laughed at me and asked me if I thought Katie was only going to get 5 teeth on the bottom and 5 on the top.  If Arwyn has got a cold, I highly recommend a vaporizer/steam humidifier with some decongestant in it - someone recommended eucalytpus oil in our chat the other night, but I just bought some at the store all ready to go.  Makes it so much easier for her to breathe - I have also elevated the head of the crib to make it easier for her to breathe. 

Micky - YAY for you to have dh at home - hope he stays home for Jackson's surgery. 

Whoever was asking about pain meds, I've given them to Katie more than I'd like to as well some days, but I just can't see her being so miserable all the time.  There have been days when she's just whined and cried and not eated or slept for hours and I give her some meds and she's happy again.  DH works for a drug company and he says Tylenol has been tested for so many years and has been checked so carefully, there's really not much to worry about.  Motrin also does very extensive testing, but the government even regulates Tylenol differently because it's considered to be so "safe" - of course, give it according to directions.

Katie as it turns out, just has a cold, which is what I expected, but at least it was reassuring to hear it from the doctor.  I know I'm missing chat right now, but don't have the time tonight.

Take care all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 03, 2005, 03:54:24 am
I definitely will be buying that vaporizer/ humidifier. Arwyn has woken up 3 times between 6:30 and 7:45! She can't breathe, poor thing! Anyhow, gotta do some housework now.  :wink: to the girls from the chat... I didn't start right away  :oops: had to check our board first!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 03, 2005, 04:05:33 am
haha ankie, me too, I had to pop on here before bed.
nighty night/good morning dahlings
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 03, 2005, 13:35:26 pm
bec, a girlfriend of mine summarized weissbluth before i bought it.

I've never added an attachment...going to try now.

I've just read it and forgot...weissbluth is a CIO/CC advocate.  wherever you see "leave alone for an hour" or something like that, just insert "pat/shush, pu/pd"

I'll take a look at it and try to add some more useful info.  she did it really quick for me when I was about to lose it about a week into sleep training with Cole.

re: 45 min. naps.  Weissbluth also says some babies are just short nappers.  If you've done all you can to try to extend them, extending awake time, pat/shush, pupd and none of it has worked then you lo just might be one of them.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 03, 2005, 14:27:50 pm
rough night last night.  fed at 9:50, woke at 10:45, 12:15 (DH turned on dishwasher :twisted: ), 1:00, 2 something ( i fed him ), 4:40.  At 4:40 i picked him up, he was soaked through with a HUGE poop.  had to hunt around the house for clean ls diaper shirt.  ended up feeding to sleep because he'd been up so long then sleeping on the futon with him.

held him to sleep for first nap again just now :oops:   someone who's done this please ensure me this won't undo all of my hard work.

Ankie-did you hold/feed Arwyn to sleep a lot and now she's going back to semi-normal?

it's just so hard to comfort him in his crib now that the mattress is low.  someone needs to invent a little door in the front of the crib so you can kneel on the floor and lay next to them.  HEY, might i be on to something? 

gotta see if i can squeeze in a shower before he wakes.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 03, 2005, 14:49:33 pm
I tried the chat last night!  It really is fun, I'll have to practice my typing skills.  You girls are fast.


Traci -  I totally agree about the crib.  I've been slipping my arm in between the crib rails, but it starts to hurt after a while and I've gotten stuck a few times.  :? I've held Claire while rocking AND with a pacifier to get her down for the catnap before.  It didn't seem to have an adverse effect.  I did it alot when she had her cold.


Have a great day everyone!
Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 03, 2005, 18:03:17 pm
gotta run to my class, but did wnat to pop in and tell you Bec taht I will also get back to you about Weissbluth.  I re-read a lot of thebook last night and it made me feel A LOT better about everything going on with T.

will post later.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 03, 2005, 18:51:38 pm
Hey girls.  Fun chat for a few minutes last night.  I didn't expect to see so many of you there because of the Sunday night chat...but whaddya know?!  Glad I checked.

Hugs to all the mom's and lo's with colds etc.
Welcome to Nome!
Micky yay about dh coming home!!!

Traci, sorry for the rough night.  We have had many nights like that (scattered) and she does eventually go back to the routine.  You won't undo what you have been working on.  Don't worry, just do what gets you and Cole through for now.  With Sophie's first teeth it took awhile to get her back on track, I thought for sure we were going to have to "start all over"  eventually, she was back...not without her own issues however....

OK, so I need some help.  I really want to drop the dream feed.  I keep doing it though because she is eating so little (ebm) during the day. DF is one of her best feeds.  She is only taking about 4-6oz in the morning??? Weird! Then nothing basically at the 11am feed (I keep offering, she keeps taking about 1-2oz)  Then a good feed at 3, usually 8oz, then basically nothing before bed 6:30-7 (Usually 2 oz or so)  So during the course of the day she's only getting about 18oz (on a good day) and I know she should be getting at least 24oz...so I df.  Thinking well, I have to get the stuff in her one way or another.  She weighs about 16 pounds (sorry, I am metrically challenged)  She is probably taking about a total of 9 tbs of solids a day.
So my question is, if I start cutting back on the df will she start drinking more during the day?? Or just waking up hungry in the night??
Any ideas?  I am a bit at a loss.  Good to have another perspective. 
Thanks Ladies.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Beata on November 03, 2005, 19:27:12 pm
Hi ladies, I am actually mom to Cate, 6 months in 11 days...and I am wondering how much smoother things got after this seemingly shake 5th month with regards to EVERYTHING?!!!  :roll:

You all seem to be doing great besides the occasional cold and bunps along the way. Please do tell.

Thanks for any encouraging words...I can post this elsewhere, but I thought I'd jump right into the thic kof things  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 03, 2005, 19:51:31 pm
Hi Beata!  You'll find this a great place to see what is "normal" :? If there is such a thing with these babes.  Claire is constantly changing and keeping me on my toes.

Ladies - Claire has been constipated, hasn't had a bm in 4 days.  I was talking to her ped's nurse about her cold and mentioned the constipation.  She recomended a 1/2 tsp. of milk of magnesia :shock:  Isn't that kind of harsh?  Have any of you given it?  I keep thinking of Kate's DH(pretty sure it was your DH Kate) :D  and the poopy incident.

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 03, 2005, 20:06:47 pm
Welcome back Andrea, missed you.
Welcome on board Nome and Jacob, Beata and Cate. Join right in, it gets a bit crazy here.
Glad to hear that everyone else is having naps/night problems. I am chalking it all up to developmental change and chant repeatedly, this too shall pass.
LOL Kate about Ryan and poops.  :lol:
Judy, are you doing OK? Is this when dh goes away? Thinking about you.
Nikki, great that you caught on the the Coeliac's so early and that Nathan can do some growing catch up. There is soo much in the way of alternatives to gluten and you have started him young so he will have "good habits" ingrained IYKWIM. Good luck with weaning the STS with Danielle. Thank you, thank you for the advice! We had enough trouble weaning the swaddle and really don't want to go there again.
Everyone, what intervals are your los staying up? Does it get progressively longer as the day goes on? Sam has been resisting his catnap and we thought we would traipse donw to feed the ducks about 3.25 hours after he woke from nap 2. He fell asleep within 5 minutes of leaving the house WTF?!!! :shock:
Ankie, glad to hear you are back on track.
Well, first week back to work was fine and I quite enjoyed it even. Dh had a blast with Sam and kept Sam on his routine quite well.
We are having one waking a night where we have to "rescue" Sam from between the bars of his crib (I exaggerate) but he is pretty wedged by the time he cries out for help. He then has trouble settling himself to sleep. Last night, it took the two of us 2 hours ( in shifts) LOL. No idea how to fix it so we are just going to ride with it.
Anyway, missed you all as I cannot pop on here as often as I would like with being at work.
Have a great day all.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 03, 2005, 20:25:52 pm
Welcome Nome!  Hi Beata!

Karen, glad to hear your week went well and that DH coped great too.  Danielle roughly has awake intervals of 2.5hrs, 2.75hrs, 3.5-4.5hrs depending on when the day started and when she woke from her last nap.

Hannah, that's a tough call really - but I did find when I dropped Nathan's DF that he wasn't well at the first feed of the day, so I weaned it out over a week by offering less and less minutes (BFing) and then one night just didn't go in to give it.  What you can also do is bring the DF forward earlier into the night, ours was initally at 10.15pm and I brought it forward to 9pm so I knew he could go the distance there as well.  I think you just have to give it a try and see what happens.

Traci, just out of interest, how does Cole go to sleep at the start of the night (ie bedtime)?  Just wondering if this is linked to his night wakings - apparently the way they go to bed at the start of the night really impacts on how well they resettle during the night.  So if you're feeding him almost to sleep for example, he may not know how to settle completely on his own.  Even if for naps he goes off to sleep absolutely fine, it's unlinked to night sleep.

Sorry, that's as far back as my computer views last replies...

Judy, how are the girls?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 03, 2005, 21:10:58 pm
Hey everyone!  Hi to Nome and Beata! 

Nice to hear so many of you are getting over the nap/sleeping bumps.  Ds has now decided to lengthen am naps to 2 hrs but is not going down for his afternoons!  3 days in a row and he's been sleeping for 10 - 20 mins max.  He doesn't get cranky or anything but i sure miss my afternoon tea break.

Anbody still using soothers?  Sol uses his at bedtime and when he's in his car seat.  Now that he's 6 months, should I switch to one size up (6 - 12mnths) or is that just a marketing ploy?

Hannah - i'm in the same positon as you with the df.  I haven't intro. lunch yet cause he wasn't eating much at the BFs.  So 2 days ago I started adding more food at dinner.  He's at about 11 tbs of solids now.  Both days he hasn't wanted his BF before bedtime.  i'm assuming he's prettty full but waking at about 9 pm hungry.  I've fed him then and skipped the DF.
I'm hoping to slowly move the 9 pm feed back to 7 cause i'd rather not wake up in the middle of the night which is a big concern! :wink:
It's kind of a tossed strategy but i'll let you know what happens. 
Anyway , it's raining crazy here and we're having a pyjama day!  I'm loving it but lo is getting kinda restless.  Must entertain. :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 03, 2005, 21:35:53 pm
Nikki and Roz, thanks for the input.  Nikki, btw, not that you sounded offended but when I thought about my drinking comment and celiac I felt that it was a little insensitive...what mother would want to be thinking about her lo out drinking spirits...anyhow, just wanted to say sorry if I put thoughts/images in your mind that were unwelcome.

Roz, I think that is basically what I am going to do, I have already basically moved the df to 9:30, so I think I'll just keep creeping it backwards a bit.  It is a pretty selfish thing I guess but I keep thinking when I go back to work, I'd love to be able to go to bed around9-10 without worrying about the df.
Sophie still uses a soother, also only in bed and in the car (funny!).  I tried to move up to the 6-12mo kind but she wasn't really interested.  The nub is smaller and the plastic is much harder.  I guess the harder plastci is why they reccommend the next "size" so that teethers will not chew off pieces of the 0-6month kind which are quite soft and squishy...  I think I will try again, or maybe just wean???  Just don't know. One thing at a time I guess.  HTH
Karen, our A intervals are still all over the place.  Sometimes she can easily go 3 hours, and others 2 is the max without major fussing/complaining.  She has basically dropped the catnap...hasn't done it for two weeks.  So we are trying to lengthen the afternoon A time so that the evening is not soooo long.  Glad your first week back went well.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 03, 2005, 22:07:14 pm
Hannah - we pushed the DF forwards until about 9:45 and then just dropped it all together.  It was never one of her bigger feeds though (I only gave her one boob instead of two) - maybe decrease ounces as well as make it earlier.  Also, if you're mixing milk with cereal for solids, that counts in her total intake for the day as well - might be something to do if you aren't already.

Jessica - not sure where you are with the solids, but have you tried feeding some prunes?  I've found it works wonders and it's a bit more natural than milk of magnesia - oh, and I had a friend who used to mix prune juice in her LO's bottle, and I've heard of others doing it with cereal as well...some options there if you want to go that route.

Traci - I have held Katie to sleep, nursed her to sleep, rocked her to sleep, and brought her to sleep with me when she wakes up at 5:30 (I think that's all my accidental parenting for now  :oops: ) during this last teething/cold bout we've been working our way through and she still seems to be settling just fine, so I don't think you're going to undo any of your hard work.  I don't think she's slept longer than 45 minutes in awhile, but her awake time has been off - she's made the daylight savings time switch ok in the AM, but she's still trying to nap when her body thinks it should be naptime, so not nearly enough awake time. 

Hi Beata and welcome!  How do you pronounce your name by the way?

Roz - we never used a soother, Katie just spit it out.  Good luck with whatever you end up doing with it though.  Katie is a total thumb addict, so while I don't enby you the job of weaning Sol from the soother, at least it is something you can take away!  I sometimes have visions of Katie sucking her thumb when she's 21 (no kidding, I have a cousin who is 22 and still does - her name's Kate too....maybe we should have thought of that when we named her....)

Karen - glad to hear that all is well with the return to work.  We're close to 3 hours with awake time now -- well, we were, but Katie's a bit thrown off with the time change here - she keeps trying to nap when she was napping, but now her awake time isn't long enough to keep her asleep (I hope that made sense...it doesn't seem to now that I reread it!)

Take care all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 03, 2005, 22:24:12 pm
Hi Ladies,  just got back from my mommy group where I let it all out and cried and did the whole nine yards!  but I feel much better now.  We talked a lot about how the womans feminist movement has actually hurt us in a way because it makes us all think we can have it all-the career, the house, the perfct family, etc.  But in reality it's kind of hard to have it all w/o something suffering  Just something to think about.

Okay, so I think it was Jessica who asked about constipation.  We gave Taylor one dose of a Flax suppository and it worked wonders to get her going.  The next day we gave one dose of Little Tummies (very gentle laxative), and since then we have been giving her a couple of bites of prunes with all meals, as well as adding prune jiuce (apx. 1/4 oz.) to her sippy cup with water, and all seems to be well now.

Hannah, I think with the DF you cut back on the ozs but add them to the bottles during the day, and move the time up.  Good luck!  I am sooo chicken to attempt weaning the DF, esp. since she wakes fro it everynight and scarfs down 6-7 ozs!  so not technically a DF! :roll:

Bec, about the W book, a coupel of things to consider for naps:
1. Keep them in the same sleep window on a consistent basis, because their bodies have natural sleep windows that if are missed, will make it harder to sleep.  so if she usually naps at 9 but for only 45 minutes, try to keep her as close to the next 'cycle' of sleep around 12-1ish to make it easier for her 2nd nap.
2. with regards to snoozing for brief periods when they are supposed to be awake, that can make it harder to go or stay asleep for a nap.  For ex. yesterday T slept for about 5 minutes of her afternoon walk and then fell back asleep after transferring her to the crib...45 minutes later she was up.  So I think because she slept for those 5 min. in the stroller, it messed her up.
3. A 45 minute nap can be restorative, of course not as restorative as a 1-2 hour nap, but it does help...anything less than 30 minutes though doesn't count.

ALSO, as Traci's attachment points out, it is common for them to still need a feed around 10-12 at night and 4-6 in the morning until 9 months!  That definitely made me feel better about her waking up at 10 pm and 6 am lately for a feed (she is still going 8 hours).

I think that is it. 
Karen-glad to hear work is going well.  I kind of miss my job a little, so can understand you enjoying your first week back.

Welcome Nome and Beata.

Traci-hang in there girl...you are not alone.  We just have to keep remding eachother that we are all doing a great job and doing the best we can for our lo's!

ANdrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 03, 2005, 22:49:11 pm
Hola, chicas!  Welcome to Nome and Beata.  Karen, so glad it's been a good week for you...we've all been thinking about you!!!

Roz:  Ryan still uses his binky/paci.  I was so sure we'd NEVER use one and here we are almost 8 months later still pluggin' up!   :oops:   (When I got pg, dh bought me a charm for my bracelet with a paci and I told him he should take it back since we wouldn't be using them.  Oops!  I really thought I knew it all, didn't I?)  He only uses it in the crib and can take it out/put it in himself without disturbing us, so I think it's not considered a prop at that point.  (Can you hear me justifying this to myself as I type?  What a headcase I am!!!)  I have moved up to the next size since he seemed to be popping it in and out more lately, and they seem to be a better fit.  Like Katie said, at least we'll be able to throw it away at some point, but I've heard horror stories about that.  I'm hoping to get rid of it by his first b-day, although, that's what I said at 3 months...and 6 months... :roll:

Jessica, I'd try the prunes and my ped. friend told me I could also do apple juice, possibly watered down.  This was months ago, since we all know Ryan had no problems with poop lately!   :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 03, 2005, 23:30:33 pm
Hannah, definitely no offense!  In fact I really appreciated your comment and it actually gave me nice visions to think of him out with his mates and NOT feeling deprived! LOL

Andrea, that is good to know about the 2 night feeds until 9mths, it really puts it in persepective considering Danielle still feeds once between 7pm-7am at around 2-5am but no DF.  So really, she's still right on track and goes back to sleep no problem.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 03, 2005, 23:32:18 pm
Hi Everyone-thanks for the support and encouraging words

Nikki-Cole goes to sleep WIDE AWAKE at bedtime.  Even last night he did.  It was the only time yesterday that I didn't feed/hold to sleep.  I had success today for nap 2 with PUPD!  I feel so empowered.  When I was picking him up I was keeping him upright and he wasn't calming...so today i held him cradle style and the second he calmed i put him down.  Took about 10 minutes and I guess 7 pupds. 

Now I feel I might actually be able to work on eliminating the middle of the night feed.  The reason I'd been delaying it was because I didn't think pupd was working with cole and I didn't seem to be able to soothe him when he woke.  I'd put him down and he's be on his hands and knees. I'd try to pin him down :oops: , horrible i know...but he's so darn strong that I felt terrible doing it.  I'd have to use so much force :oops:  :oops:

I suppose on top of teeth he's likely still messed up from time change.  I never really thought about it til Erin mentioned it-thanks erin :D

Thanks for posting you A times Nikki- I was just thinking of asking you for them b/c I think that's another reason for our struggles.  Some days I get a catnap, other days I don't.  Seems if he wakes from nap 2 before 1:30 then he'll catnap otherwise it's too late.  It's hard eliminating a catnap at the same time as the time change.  It's like a double whammy! Can't believe he's not in bed by 4pm at this rate.  We've had a lot of 45 min. naps the last couple of days but I figured it was b/c i was holding him to sleep...maybe it's A time.  I try to stretch him more tomorrow and see how we do.

OH-Nikki-I've been meaning to say-I agree with Karen.  At least you caught it early and all the foods Nathan will eat will just be his normal foods.  I don't think it will be that hard for him.  If you had of discovered it when he was 10-well, that would be hard to do.  Not trying to make light of it...just saying I think he'll be okay.

Karen, great to hear that your week went well for you, DH and DS!

As for constipation-I'm looking for things to stop Cole up.  He had 3 huge carrot/sweet potato/butternut squash poops yesterday.

Hannah-as for DF..well, I'm going to work on my middle of the night feed first.  I'm sure that he'll take more during the day if I get rid of that.

Fed him lunch for the first time today, but that was more because DH gave him only 1 tbsp of oatmeal for breakfast :? and he wasn't interested in squash or sweet potato.

I was a bit worried when I was BFing him before bed.  He kept coming on and off the breast.  Then when I got him up to burp and switch sides he started this weird twitching :?:  His head would twitch and he'd make a funny face/expression with his mouth.  I thought he was going to throw up?  It went away anyway, not sure the cause.

He's double diapered tonight too!  No more full on leakage like last night.

phew...i think that's all from me. DH going to be home late tonight.  anyone want to chat again?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 03, 2005, 23:33:02 pm
Hi Everyone,

Traci - thank you for the weissbluth download. Don't worry about holding for naps too much. I have done it plenty of times and she can still settle herself no problem. It's just 45min naps I have trouble with. Also, I feed her to sleep every night. Her bedtime routine is bath, bf, bed. Sometimes she falls asleep feeding. I love it when this happens. It is the one thing I will be very sad to give up as this is the only time she will snuggle up in my arms and I can stare at her for as long as I want before putting her to bed. :lol:

Andrea - thank you for the info on naps. That happens a lot with dd re: the dozing off for 10mins in the car or pram then not having another nap. I will have to keep an eye on that and see if it makes a difference.

Jessica - DD recently had problems with constipation. I stopped giving her rice cereal and it solved the problem.

Hannah - What times are you giving solids? I found giving solids straight after the BF worked better for us. It means she gets dinner really early but then she takes a big feed before bed. She is now sleeping through with no DF. :D

Big hello to everyone else :)

Welcome Beata !
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 03, 2005, 23:38:29 pm
bec-i'm a bit confused by the last bit about your timing of solids/BF. Do you do a BF and solids...then another BF before bed?  could you post the times please (approx)

thanks
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 04, 2005, 01:03:15 am
Traci... Arwyn is able to fall asleep on her own for both naps and night sleeps lately but it has been hit and miss. Once the two teeth broke through, she put herself down for at least 3 days. Now, she has a cold. So... back to accidental parenting. I feel like I didn't sleep a wink last night because she was up again every 45 min to an hour or so... Finally, at 3 am, I gave in and lay down on the futon with her. At least we are doing what Tracy says in her book... 'Go to them' (Yes, I am justifying my AP practices :))

I am still hoping my wonderful sleeper that I worked so hard to teach will come back! But, it does seem like she returns to normal when things settle down.

Welcome to Nome and Beata! Glad you guys are joining us!

Ta ta ladies... off to try to get some sleep before Dh has to work tonight! Will catch up on everybody later, I promise!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 04, 2005, 01:24:37 am
traci-I may be up for a chat later.  what time?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 04, 2005, 01:38:08 am
hi guys!

Jessica: we've had a lot of practice with constipation...our ped. suggested a few different options #1.  1oz of pear juice diluted with 2 oz of water #2.  Glycerine suppository  #3.  1tsp. of brown sugar added to 2 oz of either EBM or formula or #4. 5mls of Lactulose twice a day when needed.  Lactulose is available over the counter at the pharmacy.  It is kindof a sticky sugary substance.

Well, DH is home and has jumped right into changing Jacksons diaper without hesitation.  But,  he has come down with Shingles!!! :shock:   How the heck that happened??!!!  Anyways....shingles isn't contagious to me but can cause you to get chicken pox if you haven't had it yet.  So, I'm stressing about Jack getting chicken pox especially right before he's due to have surgery!!!!  I feel bad but I secretly wish that DH would go back to work :oops:  :cry: .  What a bad wife!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 04, 2005, 01:49:14 am
Oh Micky-hugs.  That's awful.  Shingles is really painful I thought?  Hope your DH is okay and Jackson doesn't catch it.

Andrea-DH is home now.  Probably shouldn't chat tonight since I did yesterday and will on Sunday.  Gotta keep my marriage intact.  thanks anyway. :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 04, 2005, 02:42:03 am
Traci, I feed solids within the hour after B/Fing  eg:

(times are approx.)

E - 6.30 b/f & 7.00 breakfast
A - 7.30 walk in pram (stays awake)
S - 45min
A
E - 10.30 b/f then lunch before 11.30
A -
S - 45min
A
E -2.30 b/f then tea before 3.30
A -
S - sometimes  :roll:
A

5.30/6.00 - sit at table in high chair eating teething rusk thingy while mummy & daddy eat

6.00/6.30 - bath, b/f, bed
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 04, 2005, 03:06:43 am
thanks Bec.  that's what I thought you were saying.

Do most of you just BF/Bottle at 2pm feed then give dinner in the evening before last BF bottle?  just curious.  thanks and good night (or good morning) everyone.

This is my day in case anyone is curious:

6am BF
7am breakfast
8:30/9:00-?? sleep
10:00 BF
11:00 lunch (first time today)
12:30/1:00-?? sleep
2:00 BF
4:00-?? sleep-only if nap 2 ended before 1:30
5:00 dinner
5:30-5:45 BF
6:00-6:15 bed
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 04, 2005, 03:29:37 am
Traci, here's Danielle's eating.  She only on 2 solid meals a day at the moment - lunch and dinner.

7am BF
11am BF
12-12.30pm lunch
3pm BF
5-5.30pm dinner
7pm BF

I have noticed that the bedtime BF she's not as interested in as she was.  I guess I could move dinner up, but we're often out of the house so I feed her the same time that Nathan has his dinner.  In fact I'm really struggling to get her too interested in milk during the day because of the distractions!  :roll:  Got out my nursing necklace to try and entertain her with, with some success.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 04, 2005, 03:43:57 am
Traci, this is what we do..
6/6.30am BF
7/7.30am breakfast
10/10.30am bottle(6-7oz)
11/11.30am lunch
2/2.30pm bottle (6-7 oz)
5pm dinner
6/6.30pm BF
I notice this is also what you and Nikki do.
Oooo Nikki, what is a breast feeding necklace?? I am very lucky with the 2 feeds I do. In the morning, he is ravenous and cannot be distracted. In the evenings, he is half asleep and I feed in a dim room to get him ready for bed.
Hayley, are you still in Auckland? If you have got time, you should give us a ring and we should try and catch up. I should have organised this before you left! :oops: I have just PM'ed you my number.
Well, Sam is taking a catnap now  :shock: . The first one in a week!
Must dash and get some chores done.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 04, 2005, 03:45:25 am
Nikki-so glad...just checking

Traci- our feeding sched. is:
7 bottle
7:30 solids
11:00 bottle(doesn't really take this one...sometimes I don't even offer)
11:30 solids
3:00 bottle
4:00 solids(sometimes later)
6:30 bottle(doesn't really take this one either!!!)

9:30 df

Thanks for the suggestion Bec, I think I will try that....make sure the last solid meal is earlier that is...what are the teething things you mentioned? DH had to go fishing for another biter biscuit in dd's throat last night.  I don't know who was more traumatised him or her!!  We need a better alternative!

BTW, the cat (nap) came back, the very next day...the cat (nap) came back..they thought it was a goner but the cat (nap) came back....
Hopefully you know that song and don't think I am totally insane...
Yes, after saying we were done with the cat nap..it came back, today!! sigh
Too bad you couldn't chat Traci but yeah you do have to keep up the relationship with dh...btw did you do a preg test?????  I totally forgot to ask.
This is really dangerous, I am on dh's laptop and it is like a dream to type on...I could REALLY start writing some long posts now :)
Talk to you all tomorrow.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 04, 2005, 03:50:56 am
Nikki - what is a nursing necklace??  I think I need one!

Things are going "OK" at our place.  Ear infection seems to be on the mend (??)  We were only up once last night (for an hour and a half  :roll: )  Fraser has a nasty hacking cough but it dosen't seem to be bothering him too much.  Hope all the other sickly LO's are on the mend and giving their mums and dads some peace and sleep (mmm... sleep)

But I do have a question - is anyone else experiencing a super clingy phase?  Fraser is on the go, commando crawling around the house - so he sees something he wants, commando's across to it and then lies there and cries at it.  We then go to him, move him, pick him up, cuddle him, play with him, whatever he needs.  He then sees something he wants, commando's across to it and then lies there and cries at it.  Repeat ad nauseum.  Heaven forbid if we put him down between the hours of say midday and bedtime (7pm!!)

Yesterday MIL was over and took Fraser for a walk to the park etc.  He was quite happy.  She got him home and DH said - oh, pity he's in a mood, otherwise you would be able to see him "crawl".  MIL says "oh, he's fine, he's not in a mood".  DH says "not while you're holding him, he will be if you put him down".  MIL says "no, he's fine see", proceeds to place him on the ground and Fraser proceeds to scream at the top of his lungs  :P  :P   Told you so!  :wink:

What do you think this is - the beginnings of seperation anxiety?  Do you think we are not stimulating him enough during the day (I think DH's idea of entertaining him is "you lie here and watch while Daddy plays Playstation"  :roll:  :roll: )

Richelle - was it you asking about working F/T and getting stuff done?  I work F/T and DH is a full time uni student.  At the moment he's on uni break (until March 06 YAY!!).  On the days he's at uni I work from home (kind of - I end up doing most of it at nights and on the weekends when he's there to entertain F).  The house is an absolute bomb - DH doesn't quite get the "you do the cleaning/cooking duties etc"   :? but I was trying to manage it all and (as you all know) it all got on top of me a bit so I have just had to pull back and let it go (kind of  :D )  So I guess you would say life is a complete shambles but I'm working to pay the mortgage.  Life will be different when DH is finished at uni and finally back working again (2 more years, halfway there!!)  Until then, at least I have the satisfaction of knowing the DS and DH are spending some lovely time together (playing Playstation  :wink: )
 
Cheers!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 04, 2005, 03:55:53 am
OK - just posted at the same time as Karen and Hannah....

Hannah - I don't know that song - think you ARE mad  :P  :P  :lol:

Traci - what did I miss - are you pg??  :shock:  :shock: Brave lady!

Bye for now!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 04, 2005, 04:12:40 am
Jo, I hear ya about DH's and thinking themselves watching telly is entertaining the baby!!  My dh knows a bit better now to do that too much.  :wink:  OK, so I watch Home and Away at 5.30pm and think that's entertaining D, but I'm allowed to LOL.

I heard about nursing necklaces on this site (must be a US thing cause I'd never heard of them before).  It's just a long bead necklace that you wear and keeps baby entertained.  I got my mum to make one from fun bright beads with Danielle's name on it that she can have to play with when she's older (it's made with fishing line so it won't break).  There are people who sell them on the internet and some look like a fashion item rather than a kids item - but I don't wear necklaces usually.

Oops, better go and cook Nathan some dinner.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 04, 2005, 05:25:46 am
Hello to everyone. 
Traci-I don't think you are going to mess up anything by giving some cuddles and letting your LO sleep while holding, as long as you don't do it consistanly.  Ben is eating solids 2x a day, 11:30 and 5:30.
Hannah-It took me a long time and a lot of convincing from DH to drop the dream feed.  I am such a sleeper and was very nervous that if I dropped it, Ben would wake really early.  I moved the DF to 9:30.  His last awake feed was at 7.  It took a little while to get him to sleep to 6:30 ish but it happened.  For a few days he woke at 5 and sometimes I would give him a little snack and other times I would put the paci in with some pats and he was back to sleep.  I was doing it so I could go to bed earlier and now I am on the computer reading all this good info and posting!
Jessica-2x a day prunes, water in a sippie and some prune juice worked for us.  Ben never had hard pellet poops he just went from pooping a few times a day to not going for 4 days.  Not sure if you have pellet poop or not.
Karen-I am so impressed with your stamina and emotional capacity to get back to work.  I wish I could be in your shoes on days I am sniffling on the way to work.  Ben is staying up for around 2 1/2 hrs in am,2 1/2 before afternoon nap and 3 1/2 before bed time.  He is refusing to have a cat nap and is just exhausted by the time we put him down.  We are slowly trying to get him into bed earlier then 7.  I am worried if I go too much earlier that he will wake at 5 ready to start the day.
Not sure who asked about the soother... I changed sizes at 5 months and he doesn't seem to mind the size he is using now.  I keep buying more and lose them all of the time.  So glad to hear that others are using the paci I thought I was alone and was going to have to deal with the weaning of it by myself.  PHEW!  Someone said that they knew when it was time to get rid of it when their LO started trying to put the paci in their mom's mouth.
Micky-thinking of you and hoping the shingles don't spread.  You are not a bad wife, I wish my DH away when he is misbehaving and he doesn't have shingles!
About the crying when left alone to play.  Ben doesn't have any problems in the morning or early afternoon but when it comes to the evening he is a cranky pants.  If I am in the kitchen I pull out the tupperware drawer and that seems to keep him occupied for a bit.
I am having lots of problems with Ben popping off the boob and getting easily distracted when eating.  The BF necklace sounds neat!  I have tried letting him play for 10 minutes then putting him back on and that seems to work.
WHO is pregnant?!?!
Good long naps to everyone.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 04, 2005, 05:31:18 am
One other thing.  I am a super wimp about being assertive.  I know that it is my baby and I need to take a stand but I don't want to hurt my babysitters feelings because she is always put down at home.  I know not my problem.  Anyways she is great with Ben and he loves her but she doesn't always follow my directions.  For example, last night she fed him his last bottle then took him for a walk and he fell asleep in the stroller.  She has babysat many times and put him to bed properly.  SHould I just let it go?  Does anyone have this problem?  I don't want to seem like a fussy pants, even though I am. :?
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 04, 2005, 05:47:31 am
Jo, don't envy you working fulltime and with a sick child to boot! Yes, we have noticed the clingyness as well. We have a similar thing here except maybe not as bad. Sam does not actually mind us not picking him up but have to be within eyeshot and chatting to him. No good if in the same room and on the phone. "We" (I) made the no TV rule when Sam was born and we have stuck to it. It is very tempting though.
Macaire, I am not as brave as you think. Still having a wee cry on the way to work but am loving the mental challenge. I do feel guilty that I actually enjoy work though. As for control freak, I am certainly one! Having said that, I hate conflict and seeing that she loves Ben and he loves her, I would let it slide just this once and maybe say something if it happens again JMO
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 04, 2005, 13:16:35 pm
Ok, 1st of all, what did I miss  - Traci are you PG?  I don't think you can undo all the hard work you have done and some extra cuddles are always nice for you too, well not in the middle of the night...but you know what I mean!

Karen, I am glad you ahd a great week back to work and know how hard it is.  When I first went back i too felt bad that i was glad to be in 'grown up' land but you shouldn;t feel guilty, you should feel proud!

Andrea - you girls are my mommies group and I have been crying many times whilst posting.  It IS SO difficult these days to be a woman much less a mother, whether or not you are working or staying at home.  As women we demand so much from ourselves but yet don;t seem to hold other people to this standard.  Sorry if that is a bit of a blanket statement, but that is how I am seeing things lately.

On that note, at work they are still giving me a really hard time about resigning.  I am getting all sorts of comments, one in particular; 'you will be wasting your talents JUST staying at home! :shock:   That one was the last straw for me - I could not believe how insensitive that was to say, how could I waste anything on Sophie?  But of course the guilt ect... about staying at home and not 'earning' is such a stigma in the circles I am in....enough of that, I am of course crying again!  Must get over myself jeez!

Micky - YOUCH on the shingles and you are not a bad wife.  This weekend my husband was on the balcony smoking (UGHHHH) and i pictured him falling over the side :shock:  :oops:  - now who's a bad wife!  Also what meat do you feed Jack and how do you prepare it or do you buy it?  We are meat eaters here as well, what I meant was, I wouldn't eat that jarred meat :?  so, I don't want to feed it to Sophie...

Macaire- I have a written and signed contract with my nanny about how she is to care for Sophie, so IMO I would put my foot down.  I also find that people are alot more understanding than you would expect when it comes to your needs and wants regarding your LO.

Hannah - LOL, honestly.  I know the song and had a very good chuckle!!

Was it Erin asking about A time?  Sophie is 2.5 to 3 hours.

Jo - I hear you on the struggling with the F/T work and Sophie and the house.  I could honestly go on and on, this also having to do with picturing DH fall off the balcony :shock:  :oops: !  My nanny who is an angel did all the ironing this week, I almost kissed her!!  I am so sorry to lose her oh well.  Glad to hear Fraser is on the mend.  Sophie also is starting to be a bit clingy and she sometimes cries of she can't see me or I walk out of the room.  I hated but I had a litlle giggle at Fraser crying at everything!  Maybe he is dissappointed once he gets there, sort of a let down you know??  Sorry for laughing but picturing it in my head struck me as funny! 

OMG This is the longest post ever and I am still going to put Sophies Routine!

7AM - 2TBS Cereal/ 2OZ Fruit + 6OZ Formula
9AM to 10:15 Sleep (she usually needs to be woken up)
11AM - 4oz Veg & Starch + 6OZ Formula
1PM to 2:15 Sleep (woken up again)
3PM - 6OZ Formula
4:30 to 5:15 Catnap (sometimes only settles long enough to sleep 10 mintues, but wake always at 5:15 no matter what)
5:15 - 2OZ veg/starch / 2oz Fruit + 2OZ Water
7PM - 6OZ Formula + Bed!!

And she sleeps through and we have had to wake her at 630 the last week, I am going to try and let her sleep and refigure her whole day maybe next week.  As you can see, we have a schedule, sort of against BW and this shedule is pretty much set in stone around here but I know I will soften ect... once I am home F/T with Sophie!

OMG - enough already - sorry for the long post!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 04, 2005, 14:09:40 pm
Jo-very happy to hear Fraser is on the mend.  And happy to hear that MIL was proven wrong!LOL  Cole is clingy at times, wanting to have me in view.  Sometimes if he's very engrossed in something I can leave the room for about 5 minutes without him noticing.  If he's in his exersaucer then he isn't impressed when I leave.  He doesn't cry at his toys because he is so mobile he can get to anything at any time he wants.  Too much so unfortunately.

For those that are curious-no I haven't taken a pg test.  I mentioned on sunday that my belly seems to have gotten a tad bigger.  I really do think it's an ice cream belly though and not a baby belly :?   DH and I haven't exactly been careful so I was/am a bit paranoid.  I haven't felt extra tired or different or anything.  If it gets any bigger I'll do the test.

Hugs Richelle.  Of course your talents will be BETTER put to use with Sophie and you can tell them I said that :wink:

thanks for your schedules everyone...rats 30 min. nap...have to finish later.

really quick:
1) how many total tbsp/oz/cubes is everyone feeding?  cole had 12 tbsp yesterday, 7 cereal and 5 veg.  who mentioned starch?  is that just potatoes and stuff?

2) who's lo doesn't have a lovey yet?

we had an okay night...up at 10:40 and 2:50 to feed, 5:20 for the day :?

by the way, Nikki, naomi, Judy...and any of the new people with toddlers.  I thought this looked like fun...a placemat with a chalk board on the back
http://www.samandbellie.com/site/toys/
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 04, 2005, 15:50:43 pm
well I have been lurking the past couple of days, Jay is sick once again, thank goodness he has a check up on monday. I feel like crap, doing all I can to make sure he is healthy and here he is a month later still sick as a dog.
Riley is in good health tho, getting pretty mad that she can't go anywhere, tho she is trying her damndest to try.
Her routine is all over the place, but I will try to put it down for you, we try to do the order rather than the times as her naps are sometimes long, sometimes short, but here goes.
E-cereal
A-
E-an hr after solids, booby or bottle
A-
S-usually up for 2.5 hrs
  - has a half hr snuggle to wind down
E-solids, meat and veggies, or fruit mix
A-
E-milk feed, same as before
A-
S-As before
 - Sleeps no later than 3:30 or 4pm
E-fruit mix or meat and veggie mix, whatever she didn't have before
A-
E-usual milk feed an hr after
  - I tend to cluster feed in the afternoon as well
A-
E-milk feed, usually a half hr b4 bedtime, if she will take it
A-snuggletime with daddy
S-bedtime, we try to get it at 7pm everynight, but you all know how that story goes

At night I let her wake for a feed, usually about 10 or 11 and then goes until 5 or 6, and after that snozzes until 7:30 or so

I must be a crappy as I don't really think about what she is supposed to eat, I am more concerned with making sure she doesn't reject her solids like she has been, which is why I take turns in what I feed at her lunch and supper solids feeds.
My servings are usually based on how much out of the jar she eats, like today she had a jar of sweet potato and chicken casserole for lunch.

I think riley does havw a lovey, her god parents got her one of those praying bunny toys that has a blankie attached, kinda nice how some nights the prayer the bunny says is the only thing to keep her calm.

Well ladies, that is me spent for now, I have to go, jay will not leave me alone when I am on the computer, it has taken me a half hour to do this post.
Take Care my fine ladies, where ever you all are......
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 04, 2005, 17:04:23 pm
Naomi - You must do Heinz food as you are in Canada, but I was still wondering about this meat thing.  You obviously feed Riley meat out of a jar, does she like it?  And for example is the chicken casserole mixed with sweet potato or do you mix it with sweet potato?

Traci - Sophie eats 10 oz of fruit/veggies and 2-3 TBS of cereal.  I have started giving her slices of fruit to chew on but watch her very closely and she also loves the gerber biter biscuits (basically a cookie!) and these fruit and veggie puffs.  If DH and I have dinner before she is in bed she sits in her high chair with fruit and her cookies.  I find she likes to smoosh bananas more than eat them but everything else is a go, it is usually very messy but it is right before bath.

SOphie has a kushies blanket with an monkey head on it, he also has a very heavy french accent and goes by ze name of Max.  She loves him and she cuddles him when tired(chews on his face when not tired).  She has him for wind down but I don't give him to her in bed yet.

I forgot to mention in my marathon post that Sophie got her little leg caught in her crib rails last night, poor girl - so much for the crib bumpers!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 04, 2005, 17:09:59 pm
Traci - I forgot, that was me with the starch thing.  I like to give her a starch if she is not having cereal.  For example; today's lunch was rice and lentils.  For supper i have spinach and potatoes.  I also classify sweet potatoes a starch.  Anyway don't know if it makes any sense...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 04, 2005, 17:58:04 pm
Traci - Little man has 4 tbs of cereal and 7 tbs of fruit and veggis.  I was introducing things every 3 days in the begining but he seemed a bit overwhelmed so slowed it down a bit.
Doesn't like fruit alone so I mix apple/pear/prunes with squash or carrots.  Loves it!

Sol  has 2 snuggly blankeys. One was knit by a friend the other by MIL.  He prefers the one from the friend but we try to alternate so MIL doesn't sulk.  It's in his crib and he reaches out for it when its time to sleep.

Glad to know Fraser is on the mend and So sorry to hear about the shingles   :(   
Hope all the working Super Moms are holding on.  I know DH would love to stay home with lo.  I can see it in his eyes every morning on his way out the door.  Breaks my heart.

Just found out that bottle nipples have a variety of holes in them!  :shock:   Asked my Mum and she informed me she already knew that.  Thanks for the 1 up Mum. :roll:   
Sometimes I wonder how the hospital just handed me this little guy and let me walk out with him?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 04, 2005, 18:45:50 pm
hi guys!
DH feels bad about coming home and exposing Jack to shingles!! :(   Oh well, too late now!  Anyways, I'm just hoping that if Jackson does get chickenpox it's after his surgery....I don't want to put it off anymore!  It took us over a month to get this appt. as it is.  And it will be so much harder once Jack is mobile which i think is going to happen soon....he is starting to pull his feet under him when he is on his belly so that his butt is straight up in the air.

Richelle-I have bought the jarred meat....it is absolutely disgusting!!!  It smells and tastes like dog food!!  well, i've never tasted dogfood but it is how i imagine it!!  :D   I've also bought the blended meat and veggie combo's and it's more veggies then meat.  Jack doesn't seem to mind those.  But as far as preparing my own....I just take a bit of meat that I have prepared for myself (ie turkey, lamb, steak, chicken, salmon) and puree with a bit of water until smooth.  I give Jack all the spices and everything...I just make sure I don't cook with too much salt and no creams or whole eggs.  He enjoys his meat dishes more when there is more flavor.  I did initially make chicken by just poaching it and he didn't enjoy it very much only would eat a couple of spoonfuls.  Then I let him try mine with all the spices, etc and he gobbled it up.  So now I don't prepare anything seperate for him.  I just puree whatever I've made for myself.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 04, 2005, 18:55:49 pm
Roz, that is funny about the nipple thing.  We switched Sophie to a #3 nipple on Dr. Brown's bottles thinking that she would take more ebm...no such luck.    I guess It wasn't a nipple problem.  But, I definately think it's a good idea to give them more flow when they get older. 

Traci, didn't mean to start the rumor mill :oops:  :lol: about you possibly being PG!!!  Just hadn't followed up.

Jo, Sophie has  been a little touchy/clingy lately.  MIL came over to babysit the other night and she was a little standoffish, not so usually, Maybe it is the separaton anxiety thing, Fraser is getting to right about the textbook age for it.
LOL about the playstation/watching tv thing with dads...what is it with them??  Yesterday I had to go to a meeting in the evening for work.  Dh asked me to leave him "directions" for what to do with Sophie while I was gone (which was actually nice, considering he took offense in the past if I did that...at some point though it would also be nice not to HAVE to, because he knows the routine just as well as I do IYKWIM)  Anyhow...I wrote down "quiet play" for the after dinner before bath etc time.  When I called on my way home, they were watching baby einstein...THIS is quiet play??  sigh...one step forward, two steps back.
JO, also funny about MIL being wrong.  I really hate it when other people try to tell me what's "wrong" or not worng with Sophie.  Even when Brendan (my 6 yr old stepson) lovingly says "Hannah, I think Sophie's hungry"  I get annoyed...But I just take a deep breath and say "No Brendan she's not hungry, but thanks for caring"
 :roll:   But then I always mutter to myself something like, maybe she is hungry, I mean really, so I know everything about her?? Having confidence with all of this is so key.
Speaking of confidence, Macaire about confronting the babysitter, I would.  You are not being too controlling.  You have to be able to guide your child's care when you are away.  I think as along as the care giver understands that you understand that things don't always go to plan, but you have to at least be clear on what the plan is...as long as that is clear, straying is ok, as you can trust that she understands what you are aiming for, but may not always be able to do it.  hope that makes sense.

And Richelle, how could anything ever be wasted on your child.  It's strange how people think parents' time is better spent working/away from kids.  I HATE that childcare is so undervalued.  Better for us to work and make the "big bucks" and pay someone minimum wage to watch our children?? Weird huh? BUT, we do what we have to do.  I totally agree with you on the pressures around being a woman/mother/working woman/wife/house keeper etc.  Thank goodness for you ladies or I would never navigate my way through all of this.
Traci-
I'm with Naomi...I don't REALLY know how much solids Sophie is getting, exactly.  I would guess I am giving about 2tbs cereal and 2 tbs fruit for breakfast, 2-4 tbs veg for lunch and 2-4 tbs veg+ 2 tbs fruit for dinner.  Sometimes I do more if she seems really into it, sometimes I do less.
What is the reasoning for milk feeds being most important until (when??)  Is it about hydration? Is it about nutrition? Or is it about antibodies (for bf)?? Does anyone know?

Also, Sophie oes not have a lovey yet but I am sooo excited I just ordered a taggie and am hoping she'll take to that as her lovey...I am also hoping that a miracle will happen and she will suddenly not want her soothie anymore once she has the taggie :)

Already looking forward to chatting this Sunday.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 04, 2005, 18:57:53 pm
MIcky, we posted at the same time, not hard to do, while I am composing my (not so)short stories :)
Anyhow, good luck with the shingles!!! Yikes, I am thinking of you all and hoping for the best.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 04, 2005, 19:01:57 pm
Hey ladies.  Thanks for the info on constipation.  We're going on day 5 here and still no bm.  Last night we had projectile vomiting right before bed.  I was breast feeding her and she started to cough.  She's been coughing a lot with chest conjestion.  Anyway, I took her off and sat her up and she puked all over.  I thought that was that and popped her back into the tub.  Out of the tub, rediaper and put on jammies, puked again :cry:  Hold her for a while, re-jammie, call my mom, puked AGAIN while I was on the phone.  Called the night nurse from her peds office, talking to her and yes, she puked again.  By this time she's dry heaving, puking up green mucousy stuff, sorry gross, but nurse doesn't seem too concerned says she probably has an irritated tummy from the const. and drainage.  Says not to feed her, just put her to bed and when she wakes to give her Pedialyte.  The hardest part about all of this was how miserable she was :cry: .  She didn't cry at all, jut put her head of DH's shoulder and rested inbetween pukes.  Well I was terrified to put her down in her crib because she was gagging on the puke,  so DH put her bouncy seat in her crib and she slept in that all night.  Anyway, sorry about being long winded, I'm just frustrated and feel so bad for her.  Going to be giving her glycerine supository when she wakes from nap.  I've switched to oatmeal cereal and plan to give prunes from here on out.  And to top it off we've had 45 min naps all day, I'm sure because she's so uncomfortable AND DH  has co-workers coming over for dinner tonight :evil: NOT what I'm in the mood for. 

Sorry about the rant, just needed to get it off my chest.  You guys are the best.  Thanks for listening.

Jessica

PS - Traci, Claire doesn't really have a lovey.  I keep trying to get her used to one, but I afraid to leave it in the crib with her.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 04, 2005, 19:17:50 pm
HUGS to you jessica...I am so sorry.  I am wishing you a better day today. Can you order pizza for dh's dinner tonight?? :wink:

One more thing, ped prescribed flouride drops for sophie...anyone else using these?
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Beata on November 04, 2005, 19:42:50 pm
Claire Marie's mommy - I have not read far back enough to see...but my mom recommended that when I was having constipation probs with dd, to take the bulb thingy that gets the stuff noses, and fill it with warm water and a teeny drop of soap and give an enema. I did not use soap because dh thought that was bad, but I put a small amount of vaseline on tip and filled her with water -and then a clean daiper. It was almost instantaneous. Then a bit later, she pooed out a ton more! My doctor said to give a baby glycerin suppository, but I went with the mother/grandmother remedy.

Poor thing, must be feeling so bad {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}} to both of you
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Beata on November 04, 2005, 19:44:30 pm
And PS - watch out with the prunes...I think dd had really bad tummy ache when I gave a bunch! Just don't go overboear with the fibre. Start with the supposityory to get it out, adn then just go slow  :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 04, 2005, 20:56:04 pm
Big (((hugs))) to you Jessica and to Claire, too.  So sorry you've had to deal with that.  I'd be scared out of my pants with 4 pukings in a row like that. 
My dh loves the playstation, too.   :?   He has a special way to sit that protects Ryan when he sits on the couch next to Daddy as he plays.  Lovely, I tell ya!  Video games are dh's way to destress on the weekends and I just keep telling myself it's better than him going out drinking with the guys (or worse, girls) from the office. 
Jo:  we are starting to get really clingy here, too.  Not so much crying when he doesn't see me, but if he's in the Jumperoo jumping like a madman and I go to check the laundry in the next room (after telling him where I am going), he'll just stop and watch the door until I come back.  He's also checking on me constantly while he's off exploring the room.  (Mind you, he's 3 feet away from where I am sitting on the floor watching him).
As for meat, I bought some baby food turkey and Ryan just about gagged.  It did smell awful.  But, since I had bought 4 jars of it, I ended up mixing it with really strong tasting things he likes. It worked best with a guava/sweet potato (kumera?) mix.  He hardly noticed it at all. From now on, though, I'll stick to whatever we're eating or the mixed jar stuff.  I'll also be hard-boiling some eggs...in case you missed my bonehead move of trying to scramble an egg yolk alone and it stank and Ryan again gagged on it.  Never even thought about boiling.  For the 459th time I say, "Thank goodness for this website!" 
Think that's it for now...wishing you all a great weekend!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 04, 2005, 20:59:57 pm
Micky - Hope Jack is OK - can't catch a break, can you?...DH finally gets to come home and he brings germs with him...

Hannah - our ped prescribed vitamins with flouride - I'm supposed to give them daily, but she won't take them unless I mix them with food, so she gets them some of the time  :oops:  since I tend to forget about them when mixing up her food

Jessica - Ugh, hope Claire feels better, poor thing.  Katie has had a nasty cold and pretty much puked every time she ate for a few days.  She was off solids for about 4 days as well before she started eating again yesterday.

Andrea - I went to a lecture a few years ago for one of my grad classes by this very renowned dyslexia expert - she has a few kids and she's been all over the world lecturing and researching - her big advice - "you can have it all, just not at the same time" -- I think about that sometimes these days. 

Traci - Katie's been off solids for a few days due to her cold, but she was getting about 7 oz a day of fruits and veggies and 4-6 tb of cereal - I think we're going to work on meat next.  Katie has a lovey now - one of those bunny heads with the blankets attached.  I give it to her when I put her in her crib and she always smiles and grabs it with one hand, sticks her thumb in her mouth, and goes to sleep.  (Well, some of the time at least, not going to pretend it's that perfect all the time!)  At any rate, it's really cute to see her snuggle with it.  Doesn't seem to impede her breathing at all, but to tell you the truth once she became a tummy sleeper, I figured all bets were off in terms of the SIDS guidelines.

Karen - How is BF 2x a day working out?  I'm going back full days Monday and Wednesday starting next week and realistically I know there's no way I have time to pump the amount I should.  If it works I would love to just BF morning and night for now.  I'm interested to hear how it works for you.

Have a good weekend all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: JacobMarksMummy on November 04, 2005, 21:00:56 pm
Hey ladies!
Boy does this thread move fast! I was just wondering if any of u are fully breast feeding your babies, I am and DH and I have decided to try for another but my periods are all over the place and GP says that the chances of getting preganat whilst BF is very slim. Whats the situation with anyone else? I am so broody it is unbelivable I thought that feeling would go once I had my baby  :? ! I must be mad!

Nome
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Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 04, 2005, 21:07:10 pm
Hi,

Hannah - those teething thingy's are "Heinz Teething Rusks' they are like a long skinny biscuit. I keep them in the fridge so they are nice and cool on her gums. She loves to chew on them but not much goes into her belly judging by how long it takes to clean the high chair afterwards :x I think it's the first 9months you offer milk first then solids. ??

Traci - My belly is kinda big also :? I have lost all my pregnancy weight but the last week or so my belly is just out there. It looks weird. No AF here because of breast feeding :?:  :?: . Hope I don't do what my mum did - I am 10.5months older than my brother :?  :shock:  :?  :shock:

Richelle - I am suppose to go back to work in January. I am not even sure I want to. The only reason I will is because of guilt of not 'earning'. I think staying at home is a much harder and more demanding job anyway :wink: So to all those people giving you a hard time just say PPPTHHHHHH !!   :lol: oh and I cracked up at the french bunny thing :lol:


BIG HELLO TO EVERYONE !!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 04, 2005, 21:47:31 pm
forgot to add:

I have a problem with DD refusing feeds... Yesterday she would not BF at 2.30/3.00.  She fed OK before bed but not as much as usual. This morning she would not BF at all. I tried a few times and she just screamed. I made up a bottle of formula - no luck. She would not stop crying so I put her back to bed (7.30) She woke half an hour later, I tried BF again - no luck. I just gave her breakfast (cereal and fruit) she ate it all no problem. I am so worried about the BF I have been so upset and now I am having a big cry :cry: I feel silly also because it is only two feeds............... I might post in BF forum also.

Has anyone else had this problem??
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Beata on November 04, 2005, 22:30:13 pm
Bec - I just checked my What To Expect the First Year, and it could be:

Something you ate which she does not like
A Cold
Teething
An earache
thrush
Some hormonal change in you
Tension in you
Readiness for weaning

The advice is...Don't try substitutes like formula, Try ebm in a bottle, keep trying every feeding, slow down on solids.. but don't worry it's only temporary usually, but if you n otice other signs of illness call the doctor...

that being said I have no experience with this myself. Good luck!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 04, 2005, 22:40:19 pm
Hi all,
Jessica, poor Claire. Hope she is feeling better today.
Erin, BFing twice a day is working out great for us! I feed him before I go to work in the morning and then his last feed when I get home. I hear you about not being able to pump the amount he needs. In fact, I have problems pumping and only get about 2 oz yet my breasts feel very full afterwards...no letdown. :(  Would have loved to carry on EBF otherwise. Those two feeds are really special and if you are working 2 days a week, I highly recommend it. I also work 2 days a week and on Wednesdays, I do an afternoon/evening shift, I give Sam a BF at the 3 pm feed so I do not have to pump when I am at work. Dh then gives him a bottle before bed. HTH.
Nome, I am also incredibly broody but do not want to give up BF yet so we will see what happens! Will think about weaning fully when closer to a year old.
Traci, Sam has 3-4 icecubes full of fruit, veges etc a meal and we are on 3. He sometimes has it all and wants more and sometimes not. Tried jarred meat but was disgusting so have resorted to making my own. Have only poached chicken so far.
Sam does not have a lovey as such but he sucks on a bit of muslin.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 04, 2005, 23:10:27 pm
don't have a lot of time, but wanted to say HUGS Jessica.  Hope Claire is feeling better.

Micky-too bad your visit with DH has to be tainted with his illness.  Is he feeling okay?

Nome, I am breastfeeding 6 times a day still.  No period here.  Hence my issue/Q re: could I be pregnant.

Bec!  Did you see that possible reason for BF refusal-hormonal change!  EEK, hope you're not PG! Has she taken formula in the past or was this the first time?  I know I have a can here for just such an occasion but I've never had to use it.  I'm thinking of introducing formula for those times when I don't have time to pump.  Good luck...hope you get some milk into her.

On the topic of constipation again...I met Holly at the mall today and she mentioned that whenever she gives brady carrots he goes.  Seems the same with Cole (storebought btw).  He had 3 HUGE poops yesterday (carrots with every meal i think) and he had not gone yet today. And wouldn't you know, carrots with dinner and a great big poopy.  I decided to BF before bath just in case.  phew...good thing I did.  Can't imagine the mess that would have made.  Anybody have their lo poop in the bath yet?  Not like we can just fish them out with a net or something and change the water...it would be everywhere ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

I'll be back later...we have friends coming over to meet Cole tomorrow and this place is a disaster!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 05, 2005, 00:22:46 am
KATE...i meant to mention if i didn't before...my friends DS likes the egg yolk mashed with a bit of EBM.  fyi
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 05, 2005, 01:41:32 am
I keep forgetting to say WELCOME, Nome and Beata, so WELCOME!!

Bec - Sophie did this at the breast starting around 3.5 months.  I tried pumping to up supply, different foods ect...and at about 4 months i packed it in.  The ped. said it was probably a case of teeth, she did get a tooth soon after and she also said impatience due to hungriness/growth spurt.  She did take a bottle though but by this time was used to it as I pumped ect...HTH

Traci - When MIL came to stay and visit with us and be all proud of her boy as a papa, they were giving her her evening bath when Sophie decided to christen Nana in the tub.  As we were trying to empty the bath ect Sophie weed all over daddy!!  What a mess but still very funny to this day! LOL about fishing them out with a net!!!

Must run I am at work (of course!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 05, 2005, 03:40:43 am
Thanks for the tips on the babysitter-I need to suck it up.
Bec-Ben has had similiar situations when he is overtired
(right before bedtime), overstimulated or after I have excercised. HTH
Richelle-The people who are talking must have never stayed home with a LO.  You are doing an extremely important job at home.  AND if you really miss it you can always go back it seems like you will be greatly missed.
Traci-Ben doesn't have a lovey but I also haven't tried to give him one.  I would love for him to have one.  He does have 3 bears in the crib so maybe he cuddles with them when I am not looking.  He is eating 5TBS of cereal not including BM and 5TBS of fruit/veggies.  i am going to increase it tomorrow.
Hannah-Ben was given a prescription for the flouride as well.  I asked the doctor why he was getting the prescription and he explained in a very sarcastic tone that only the malnurished babies need it!!!  I am supposed to give it to him first thing in the morning but often forget.
Nomi-I have been on the "mini"pill for 5 months, have soley breast fed and haven't had a period yet.  I have been taking test every month just to make sure I don't have a surprise on the way. 
Have a great weekend and hope to talk with you at the chat.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 05, 2005, 15:24:00 pm
Hi Ladies - wow you gals have been busy/chatty! I can't even remember where I left off.

bec refusal to bf - could very well be teeth.  I remember my older girls being very fussy about sucking when teething.  Zoe was 9months  :shock:  when she cut her first tooth so already on bottles by then and if the temp wasn't JUST right she'd refuse the bottle completely and even with a good temp she wouldn't always drink much.

Nome hmmm, have you been feeling broody all along or is this a recent thing?  I ask because I am over the top broody while ovulating.  My periods never returned though until about a couple weeks after I completely weaned my older girls.  That said I've had friends who've started their periods just a few short months after birth -while exclusively bf'ng. 

As for solids -  :oops:  I was so pleased today because the girls actually ate all but a spoonful of 2tbsp of cereal.  That's 2 tbsp BETWEEN them!!  :oops:   These girls are boob addicted and afraid to be sucked in to the world of real food!! :)  Kaia ate probably 3/4 of what they consumed.  Most meal feedings end in lots and lots of tears.  They don't just happily turn away - they just start to cry :(   It's been a really slow process but I'm thrilled they consumed a reasonable amount today. :)  I usually don't measure their food at all - but started yesterday just so I could gauge what the were actually eating.  As for veg... haven't even gotten one icecube of veg consumed between the two yet.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Claire Marie's mommy on November 05, 2005, 16:55:20 pm
Hey girls,  Thanks soo much for all the kind words.  It really does help. :D  I think we are over the hump here. Claire is still making "grunting sounds", but   I pretty sure we cleaned her out good.  I guess we'll see.

Beata - Thanks for the advice about the prunes.  Slow and steady. :)

Traci - About the belly.  Me too :oops:   I'm wondering though if it doesn't have something to do with our los eating solids and decreasing the amount of breastmilk they are taking???  Maybe we aren't burning as many calories any more.  I don't know, just an idea.  I definately need to lay off the chocolate.  But it tastes sooooooo good. :lol:

Micky - Sorry to hear about DH's shingles.  A woman I know had it and she said it was very painful.  Hope he's doing OK.

Nome -  I'm still fully breastfeeding (more than I'd like at night),but it doesn't seem as though she's as interested  since starting solids.  I guess she's interested in latching on and being close, but she really doesn't take that much.  I don't think anyway.  Maybe she's just really fast now. Have been thinking about going to just a morning and  night feed and I guess an over the night feed, but not sure how I feel about it yet.   :?

Hannah - Claire's ped prescribed flouride also, but she said just to use it until Claire gets used to the sippy cup, then she will get her flouride through the water. :?:

Richelle - Re:  staying home.  People really don't know how insensitive they sound sometimes.  If its what you want to do, then go for it.  I haven't regretted a minute of staying home with Claire.  I do crave some adult contact sometimes, but you all help with that. :wink:

Judy -  LOL on the booby addicts.   :lol:

Have a great day everyone,  I'm off to get to the bottom (no pun intended) of this grunting business.

Jessica
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 05, 2005, 17:08:29 pm
Judy, good to see you back!!!  Solids are overrated anyway :)  LOL on the booby addicts.

Jessica, glad to hear all is well with the poops :)

Hey, some time back someone was talking about how hard it is to pat/shh now that mattresses are lowered (for some lo's)...I got a mag in the mail the other day from a company called Design Within Reach. http://www.DWRjax.com  Artists/Architects etc. who have had kids have designed "superior" kid gear.  Anyhow, I just remembered there was a crib in there that was oval shaped and actually had a door on the front of it.  This crib would definately solve the sore arms through the crib slats problem!!

Thanks for the flouride feedback.  When I told dh, he immediately brought out all kinds of info on flouride "the slow poison"  so I had to ask.

I guess that's all for now.  I have been lurking...waiting for more posts. (expecting you all to keep me entertained :)  Things do get a little slower around here on the weekends...all you ladies must have had more exciting Friday nights/Saturday mornings than I...pizza and a movie with dh.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 05, 2005, 17:13:10 pm
Macaire...Only the malnoutrished babies get it???  I don't get it.???
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 05, 2005, 17:58:06 pm
Hey ladies... just lurking lately... no time to actually post as we are a sick bunch over here.

Just a few comments...

Judy... Arwyn is very hit and miss about the solids. Some days are passable and others, it is very clear that she didn't get much at all. I was told to just keep offering it and they will eventually take it. :) on the booby addicts!

Hannah... LOL I know the song. We've lived the life too... our Cat is back! We shared the same Friday night/Saturday morning! Pizza and a movie... Sahara.

Micky... thinking about you here. I hope Jackson's surgery goes well. :( about DH bringing home the chicken pox virus. How is he doing? I understand that shingles is very painful.

To all the mommies of constipated LOs... I am glad some of the remedies suggested here are working. We haven't needed to go there yet but I am sure glad I know where to come for some advice!

Nome... were you asking about length of time spent nursing? Arwyn has become a super efficient nurser. She only needs 7-10 minutes now and she has to be VERY hungry. The only nursing session that is longer is the one right before bed.

Richelle... another person on this forum has this saying attached to her signature..."You can always go back to work, but you can't go back to having a baby." I take it to mean that the time is now, to spend time with your little one. Congratulations on your decision to stay home. If we could afford it, that would be the route DH and I would take. Unfortunately, we can't at this time but I am still hopeful that one day we can.

Karen... I am glad to hear that BF twice a day is going well for you. I hope to do this too... I know Arwyn will be a different baby when I go back to work but I really want to continue to BF.

Have a great weekend everyone! See you at the chat on Sunday!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 05, 2005, 18:00:38 pm
boo, was just about to post...45 min. nap!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 05, 2005, 19:07:47 pm
Hannah-Ben's ped. is super silly and knows i worry a bit.  I was nervous when he prescribed the flouride drops and asked if he prescribes it for all 6 month olds.  He replied in a sarcastic tone that only the malnurished kids get it.  Meaning of course he prescribes it to all babies around this age.
Hamburgers and 1/2 of a movie for a crazy Friday night here!  :lol:
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 05, 2005, 19:17:52 pm
I don't mean to brag, but we had a rockin' Friday night of scarfing down dinner and then hitting the mall to buy dh some new work shirts so we could get back in time for bath, boob, and bed.  Fun!  (Btw, if you have to do any ironing or, as is my case, running back and forth to the dry cleaners, Brooks Brothers makes these Non-Iron shirts that you whip out of the dryer just before it's done and hang up...done!  No ironing or dry cleaning!!!  A bit more expensive at the outset, but will save us $ in the long run.  Just fyi)
We're still having lots of trouble going down for catnap and bed for the night.  He is SO tired, but won't settle down. Yesterday, at the catnap, I was in tears as I stood by the crib trying to help Ryan calm down.   :cry:   That hasn't happened in a long time...my tears over his tears, I mean.  After 20 mins, I finally nursed to calm him down and then he went back in the crib and settled himself to sleep.   :?   It made me sad b/c I could have done that at the beginning and saved him the 20 minutes of being upset, but was trying to break the boob habit.  But, didn't have to do it at night...hooray!!!  We kept him up for 2 1/2 hours and fed him RIGHT before popping him in to the crib and he went to sleep with minimal fuss...will try again tonight.  Oh, poop!  I'm actually going out tonight  :shock:  so will have to see how it goes without the safety net of the old boob magic hangin' around.  I'm sure dh can handle it.
Oh, yeah, just as we were talking about dh's playing videos/watching tv to entertain, this came up this morning.  Ryan was having a blast playing in the empty laundry basket (thought of you, Hayley!).  Dh says, "Oh.  That'll be good tonight for him to sit in while I'm playing video games."   :roll:   He will actually play with him most of the time, so I guess I'll just enjoy girls night out and pretend it's not happening.
Later, girls!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 05, 2005, 21:18:49 pm
Hey ladies!  Missed you yesterda.  Can't post right now...I am off to the spa for a mud wrap and a massage!!!! :D  :D   So excited.
We had a great day yesterday (routine wise) and think I know why...will post later.

Also, we had a friend over for dinner who is currently co-sleeping and wants to continue, but needs to improve naps so she can have a life.  So of course I will be hitting you all up for some advice to give her.

Bye for now!
Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: JacobMarksMummy on November 05, 2005, 21:38:08 pm
Hello Ladies!
Hope ure all okay, just got back from Guy Fawkes night and thought I'd have a quick look in. The panic is over as far as ovulating goes I have begun my period , part of me is a little sad that I am not pregnant but I am more happy becuse after having been regular for 3months then having nothing for 2months I was worried that I would'nt start ovulating again until I had weaned DS which I am nowhere near ready to do yet!

Judy - I have always been broody since I meet DH when I was seventeen, I thought that when I actually got my baby though the feeling would go away but it hasnt! Also LOL at your boob addict babies, can you blame them?  :)  DS still has all his breastfeeds plus three square meals a day including pudding and his still as skinny as a rake! They all go at thier own pace.

Jessica - I think my DS is somewhat similar to your DD, he only really snacks at the breast and I think he is more reluctant to let go of the comfort he gets from it rather than needing the nutrition. But I love feeding him as I'm comforted too so DS and I make a great pair he'll still be nursing when his three at this rate! Although I think DH is getting fed up of my boobs being a no go area LOL  :P

Micky - Your poor DH I caught shingles whilst working on an elderly ward for my nurses training, it is horrible. I hope he gets better soon!

Taylor's Mommy - I have jsut sopped co-sleeping with DS (when he lets me) any questions send them my way  :wink:

 Going now to watch film and gorge myself on pizza!

Nome
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P.S could one of you tell me how to post piccy's, I have done it once but know I cant seem to do it, must be doing something wrong but what?!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 05, 2005, 22:07:09 pm
Hannah- I have to laugh.  Do you feel the same way as I do then...let down when there aren't any new posts?  Seems silly but I'll check my email and if there isn't a notification i'm a little sad and go searching the other forums for something to read.  I should really be doing something around here but I'm addicted :wink:

Andrea...very very curious to find out about your routine and what changed.

thanks everyone for posting your food intake.  I was just curious.  Given Cole's intake I was certain he'd start sleeping through but it's still not the case.  It seems I have my baby back though.  In addition to teeth his bad week is due to the time change.  He was really close to moving to 9 and 1pm naps and no catnap.  Now he has reverted back to his old routine.  I guess he'll adjust over a couple of weeks hopefully. 

okay, DH is feeding Cole dinner and loving it.  He eats way better at dinner than he does breakfast.  DH usually does breakfast and Cole is just not interested in the morning.  I guess I should go.  Get him ready for bed and whip out the magic boob. 

I might be back later for a bit.  Looking forward to chat tomorrow.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Beata on November 06, 2005, 01:18:00 am
How do I join the chat? As I too seem to be addicted to the BW Web site, and all the support, whether directed at me or not! Maybe once dd starts sleeping somewhat decently in the night (I don't have big hopes for through the night for anytime soon!) I'll have to wean myself from BW.com!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 06, 2005, 01:24:41 am
Hi Beata,

When you go to the BW homepage, next to the tab for "Boards" there is "Chat". Click on that and a sign-in page appears. Type in your username and password. Then you click on the "Chat" button.

See you there!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Beata on November 06, 2005, 01:26:41 am
Super...is there a time?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 06, 2005, 01:36:43 am
6 pm PST for me on the Westcoast. I believe you would be 9 pm EST.

Traci... please correct me if I am wrong!!

Also... would it be helpful if we list all the times for everybody's time zone? I have copied here the North American times. Could somebody from the other side of the world please fill in their times?

Alaska: 5:00 pm
Pacific: 6:00 pm
Mountain: 7:00 pm
Central: 8:00 pm
Eastern: 9:00 pm
Atlantic: 10:00 pm
Newfoundland: 10:30 pm
Greenland: 11:00 pm
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 06, 2005, 03:19:09 am
that's right.  It's at 9pm for me.  I guess I'm EST...same time zone as New York city if that helps.

Night everyone, i'm zonked
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 06, 2005, 05:02:42 am
Hi Ladies,

I'm preparing you now, this is going to be a LONNNNNGGGG post!  :)

For the last 2 days we haven't changed much, except making sure that Taylor does not fall asleep in the car or stroller even just for a minute before her naps.  Many days on our walks in the morning she will fall asleep for a few minutes, and the same goes for the afternoon if we run an errand, she'll fall asleep in the car.  We used to be able to pop her in her crib and no problem, but lately it seems that it always leads to 45 minute naps.  So the last 2 days no "sleeping when should be awake" (that is from Weissbluth), and voila...no 45 minute naps in 2 days! 
ALso, after 2 weeks of no cat nap, it is back for the last 2 days.  Who knows, it could just be a fluke, but we are going to continue testing it out. 
She continues to love her solids, eating about 2 cubes for bfast, 3 cubes for lunch, and 2 cubes and 2tbsp of cereal for dinner.  Have not tried any meat yet, and no green veggies (tried peas for 2 days and it seemed to cause her to have terribel gas).
Other than that we have been good (no bragging, after all, we have been bad...very bad the last week!).

Tonight DH and I decied to take T out to dinner since the day had gone smoothly and I got a couple of cute things for myself while out (an awesome sweater coat with embroidery and a cute long sleeve T).  I felt so guilty though...after all, I have always worked while we have been married and always earned as much, if not more than DH.  Now that he is the sole bread winner I kind of felt guilty.   :?: Any other moms feel this way?

Now for everyone else :arrow:
Micky-hope DH is not in too much pain and little Jack is chicken pox free!

Richelle-people are so friggin senseless sometimes!! :evil:  :evil:   Raising Sophie is the single most important thing you will ever do in your life, don't forget that!  I know how it is though.  When I quit a ton of people said, "so you're just gonna stay home and raise Taylor?"  and I would quickly reply, "well yes, but I am also helping DH with his business and starting a baby clothing line"  and then I realized, what the F@$* am I doing???  What is wrong wiht 'just' staying home and why do I feel like i have to justify it????

Jo-Taylor has been not so much clingy but VERY whiny!  It is kinda annoying actually :oops:   but she's still a doll! :wink:

Traci-T has a couple of blankies that we are testing out with her and a small square 'softy' as we call it from Barefoot Dreams, and she likes all of them...but doesn't seem attached to one over the other yet.

Naomi-hope Jay is feeling better.  Cheer up mommy...you are amazing! :wink:

Roz-had to laugh about the doctor letting oyu go home thing!!! :lol:   I felt that way so many times!

Judy-glad to see you pop in and soooo funny abotu the booby addicts!  Be glad they love them so much!

Kate-hope girls night out was fun!  hope you had a cocktail for all of us!

That's it for now...will post tomorrow about my co-sleeping friend that needs help...too tired for now.

looking forward to the chat!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 06, 2005, 05:05:09 am
I was re-reading my post and I think it automatically rejected the word cocktail because it says @!@! and I know I did not write that.

let's test it out...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 06, 2005, 05:06:09 am
yes, the computer is filtering it.  I am trying to say an alcoholic drink...like a cosmo.  ----tail.  YKWIM?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 06, 2005, 09:31:35 am
ROFLMAO Bec!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 06, 2005, 11:59:57 am
LOL :lol:

What is going on?  Too funny ladies!


Thanks everyone for your words of encouragment! 

Andrea I am also doing some stuff from home that will hopefully result in some additional income because of course, I 'can't just' stay home?  I will fill you ladies in on my fun sideline stuff as it develops as it has to do with LO's but don't want to jinx it yet :wink: !

Kate - Hope you had a fab time having cocktails!! :lol:   I had some strange things going through my head when reading Andrea's post; 'What in the heck does Andrea do on a girl's night out?' :?  :lol:

Traci - I thought at 1st it was food helping Sophie sleep through but last night she was not interested in supper and I was lucky if I got half in of what she usually eats.  So, I figured she would scarf her BIG (8OZ) bottle before bed & she only had about half again.  I thought she would be waking up early for sure.  I am at work of course so called DH at 6:45AM and he was just going to wake her up :shock: !   What a mystery these LO's are...

I really want to try and make the chat but I think it is 10PM for me and that is sooo late (keeping in mind I have been up since 430AM)  I am not working monday so maybe I will have a cup of coffee, maybe even with Bailey's and join you!!

Must get back to it..........
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 06, 2005, 14:05:06 pm
Food and sleeping through... well with my older two girls I found that the two really were not related.  First off they slept 12hrs at night long LONG before we started solids - but then I thought milk intake affected it for sure.

I think once they get their bodies set to sleep through they just do.  Zoe, when weaning to a bottle, went for three days only nursing morning and night and refused all bottles and solid foods during the day - and still slept straight through without a problem.

All that said I can't figure out how to get Kaia and Hannah to sleep through.  Again, though I can feed them as much as I want (nursing) and they just will not do it.  When they DO wake they don't drink a whole lot either so I know the root cause is not hunger but we all know the quickest way to get a baby back to sleep is the boob ;).
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 06, 2005, 15:22:02 pm
well ladies, i just had to pop on and have a quick chat with you all as both of the kids are sick once again. Jay started on fri. morning and Riley friday night.
This one hit them really hard, Riley has been sleeping her chair the past couple of nights as that is the only thing i can keep her propped up in. It is one of those fiher price infant to toddler rockers, kwim. Very worth the money, it has done us for both of them.
We are back to square one with the routine as well, with this cold Riley has barely slept during the day and fights it with everything she has at night :cry:
We have Jayson on daily multi vitamins, hopefully that will help in fighting off another cold, they have both been sick on and off since oct 10th, thanksgiving weekend up here.
And I still haven't even had so much as a sniffle with all of this sickness.

I forget who asked, but the sweet potato and chicken casserole that I was talking about was a combo jar from a company called earth's best organics. I love their range of baby food, not a whole big selection, and only for about the first couple of months of solids, but they are woorth the extra pennies.

I think I will most probably be at the chat tonite, I need the outside company after this weekend.

Oh yes, I just had to say this, the mall near us started midnight saturday shopping last night, dh went there with Jay for a pair of shoes and said you could barley move.....WTF it is barely november.......

Take Care ladies, enjoy your weekend/monday depending on where you all are.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 06, 2005, 16:57:06 pm
hi guys!!
just sneaking on here quick to get my BW fix!! :D

DH says his nipples are sensitive.....welcome to the club!!  :D  other than that he seems to be getting along okay with the shingles.  he's just mad that he can't kiss/hug Jack.  So far Jackson is ok....I'm keeping my fingers crossed!! 

I'm hoping to make the chat tonight for a bit!!  I think my DH didn't realize how much I am on the computer when he's not at home!! :shock:  :D

I have been giving Jack one particular stuffed teddy.  I liked it.  He got it as a present but it's nice and squishy and cute too.  So I went and found it at the store and bought 5 more of them so that I can constantly rotate them so that it never gets worn out and that I always have a replacement.  And I can throw it in the wash without him having a meltdown if he doesn't have it (once he's a little older).  So I hope it is the teddy that he becomes attached to now that we have 5 of them!! :shock:  :shock:

Another constipation aid that I thought of....well, actually my DH 'discovered' while we were in Mexico (on our honeymoon)....is papaya.  It is a natural laxative. :D   Poor guy, thought that he ate something funky so he thought he would just stick to fruit and veggies.  Well had raging diarrhea most of the time.  We couldn't figure it out.  Until we got home and told my mom....she started laughing because of how much papaya that DH was eating!!! :lol:  :shock:

Hope to see you guys tonight!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 06, 2005, 17:46:00 pm
micky-yes, papaya is great as a digestive aid.  In fact my mom and sister do weight watchers and they are told to eat papaya after meals as a desert because it helps to digest your food.  I bought a fresh papay for T last week and pureed it and she loved it.  I think it also helped with the constipation (but who knows since I tried about 10 different things all at once!  :?  :lol: )
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 06, 2005, 22:03:08 pm
Hi, girls!  Girls night out was fun...saw "In Her Shoes" which was FABULOUS!!!  And went out for a drink, but only had water.  Sorry to disappoint, but had to pump when I got home.  I actually dreamfed instead, since he was a bit wacky with eating yesterday and Ryan slept until 8:10 this morning.   :shock:   I seriously woke up, looked at the clock, and thought, "Well, he's dead."  I haven't had that freaky thought since he was a few months old and sleeping through the night for the first time.  He's been waking up anywhere from 5:30-7:30 for the last few weeks, so this 8 o'clock business was a nice break. 

Will not be able to chat tonight.   :cry:   We are taking Ryan to his first NHL game to see the Blues lose to the Red Wings.  (We NEVER beat them!  :evil: )  I am excited about it, but was sad to miss Desperate Housewives.  But, then I realized I'd miss my chat with you all and now I want to go even less.  We'll see how long Ryan lasts, though.  He's been doing 2 naps the last few days...longer ones, but only 2.  This kid is wacko I tell ya!  So, I might see you, but probably not.  Have fun without me.   :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 07, 2005, 00:27:35 am
hey girls, not sure i can chat.   we have a friend over for a movie...maybe around 10 EST...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 07, 2005, 01:59:15 am
Are we chatting??  I'll pop in now....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 07, 2005, 03:48:34 am
Missed the chat - DH has had tons to do on the computer this past week - come to think of it, that's why I've missed both chats this week (ours and the N America one).  As for the ***tails (drinks), remember that happened once with Nikki and ***tail sausages.  Too funny.  For all the posts on this site about poop and pregnancy/labor stories and things like that and that's what you get bleeped on. 

Anyway, had a nice pretty lowkey weekend.  Katie STILL has her cold (going on 12 days!) though now it's just a cough that does not want to go away.  Poor dear, I can hear her every night, though she just coughs and goes right back to sleep. 

Kate - I SO know what you mean about looking at the clock and thinking "That's it, she's dead" when they sleep late.  Especially now, since I let her sleep on her tummy and with a stuffed animal.  This morning, I coerced Katie into sleeping until 9:30 - well, she was up around 7:30, so I fed her, plopped her in bed with DH and I and she was tired so I just patted her back until she fell asleep and we all had some lovely nap time in the morning.

Andrea, I know what you mean about guilt and buying things.  I feel like everything I buy has to be on sale and has to be very very useful. 

Naomi, I have that Earth's best food too - I like it, we've now on the stage 2 foods - seems like they're coming out with more flavors too, I was looking on their website and they have a bunch of new ones.

Just a general question - anyone know how long to persist with the 3 day wait rule for introducing new solids?  The past few days, I've been feeding chicken and sweet potatoes for breakfast...how strange.  Katie doesn't seem to mind though....

Hope everyone is well....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 07, 2005, 05:23:25 am
Hi all,
Had to pop on and say hello and thinking about all of you.
Good luck Micky with Jack's surgery. It must be soon. I thought you said 8th November which is tomorrow.
LOL on the cocktail...see if that gets bleeped out?!!!
Made my own chicken and sweet potato as looked on the contents label and found that they put maize thickening in the food to bulk it up and only 7%chicken!!!
Micky, when you do Thai red curry for Jack, do you throw in coconut cream as well, puree it and add salt to your portion later? I am quite keen to introduce curries to Sam as I love them and ate a ton when I was pregnant with him.
Anyway, must go get dinner. Just back from work. I missed Sam soooo much I must have run every light and broken the speed limit to get home in record time in peak hour traffic. Played with him, gave him his bath and he is now fast asleep.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 07, 2005, 08:04:45 am
HI!!! I'm back from my holiday up in Auckland after a week. Too many pages to read tonight but I read the first few since I left and the last couple, maybe tomorrow I'll get to the ones inbetween.

Once again, missed the chat, maybe next week....

Our holiday went very well. Very busy and we stayed in 4 different houses, 4 nights in a row. Daniel was great. Infact last night we even had DH get up and resettle him when he woke instead of me feeding back to sleep, and it worked! He also managed one night sleeping thru for 11 hours without any help. So I know we'll be back there again soon... the powers of positive thinking I say!

Daniel's just started trying to get mobile by doing secret bum shuffles. IE you can't see them, but if we put pillows behind where he's sitting and we look put toys just out of reach he soon gets them and we find he's moved away from the pillows. I actually saw him do two 'proper' b-shuffles yesterday, but ofcourse, he hasn't done them since.

He's also got really vocal. Not just a few 'words' but big long sentences IYKWIM. "mahh mahhh mahh bah bahhh baaaah ahhh laaa....." Just chats away like he's trying to tell us some big long story about what he's been doing.

We're still having the early 5-5.30am wake ups, which he's now wanting to stay awake at instead of going back to sleep. I'm hoping it's cos he's been elsewhere, not at home. Any solutions found yet?

Also he's still not taking the bottle, but we've got the Dr Brown's bottle and a couple of teets to try so if it doesn't work without the nicer easier way then on Friday I'm leaving him with DH for the day. I wish we didn't have to do that, but we're really wanting him to take the bottle and I don't see any other way now.

Well, enough from me, time to hang out Daniel's washing then go to bed! After Desperate Housewives of course.

Glad to be back and I'm looking foward to keeping up again.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 07, 2005, 15:44:51 pm
hey girls,

sorry i missed the chat.  had my girlfriend over as she's 24 weeks pg. and her husband is out of town on a golf trip.  Wanted to keep her company.  We watched Constantine.  Warning-waste of time.  It was free as MIL bought it (she buys so much crap!)

Rough night last night.  Cole woke at 8:10 for 30 minutes, 10:20 to feed, 1:00, change poop and held to sleep (doesn't cry for poop but it stank even though it was just tiny), 3 something, another poop :shock: and feed, 4:50 ANOTHER poop :shock:  and didn't want to eat or go back to sleep.  Tried the teething stuff and ended up just keeping him up.  I couldn't remember when I'd last given tylenol so didn't want to give it too early.  Thankfully DH got up at 7:15 and gave him breakfast.  He let me sleep until 8:15. Of course, then I gave him hell as cole had been up for 3.5 hours :shock:  :shock:  :shock: .  He hands him to me to put to sleep so he could shower :twisted:   I'm swearing under my breath.  I put Cole down expecting a screaming match and what happens?  Goes right down with a little cry and sleeps 1.5 hours!!!  So did I thank goodness.

Anyhoo, i swear i feel bumps on the right side...but further back :?: and he's always chewing on the right side even though i see white spots at the front left :?   Who knows.  All I know is he's chomping on everything he can get his hands on so they have got to be coming in soon i hope.

i've read the posts but can't remember most of them.  Andrea...good point about the 5 min. sleeps in car and stroller. Cole fell asleep on the boob this morning and i tried to gingerly lay him down on the futon with me and he was wide awake.  RATS!  I think Judy mentioned to that when K&H doze off during last feed they are hard to get down.  Likely the same thing.  Glad you found a solution.

okay, little man is sick of the saucer.  justifyably so..he's been in it 25 min. :oops:

see you all later.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 07, 2005, 15:48:30 pm
Erin M the 3 day wait rule on introducing new foods:  you really don't HAVE to follow it at all.  The thinking is just simply IF your child had an adverse reaction to a food and you'd just introduced 3 new things in the past day you wouldn't know right off which was the offending food.  You'd likely then have to stop giving them all and start again one at a time in order to figure it out.

Sorry I haven't shown up to chat - I'll be frank :)  chat starts same time as Desperate Housewives :blush:  and is it Wednesday's you chat too??  Well that's when Martha Apprentice is on.  I only watch 4 shows and I'm finding this year with so much demand on my time all day that I'm VERY excited to have my tv time.  I just LOVE Apprentice (Donald), Martha's I like but wouldn't be upset if I missed it, liking Desperate Housewives and with that have been sucked into Gray's Anatomy.  So sorry gals - but TV is winning out over chat right now!  Maybe when reruns start :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 07, 2005, 16:01:06 pm
hi guys!

karen-when i cooked the red curry for Jack I made it with a curry paste out of a jar  :oops:   The ingredients on the bottle say veg. oil, water, coriander, cumin, salt, garlic, tumeric,chili, and spices.  I didn't add anything else (no coconut milk) just tomatoes, chicken and onions.  I don't know if you can get the brand but it is Patak's Biryani Curry Paste.  I think it is Indian not Thai.  http://www.pataks.co.uk  is the website. HTH

The chat is so much fun....I could only chat for short bit tho-DH made me dinner and then I got watching a show about women's body building  :shock:   I don't want to offend anyone but OMG!!!  Half of the women had 5 o'clock shadows IYKWIM??!!!  Scary!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 07, 2005, 16:06:31 pm
oh yeah....thanks for the good luck wishes karen!  We find out tomorrow if Jack is still scheduled or is postponed.  His surgery is scheduled for Wednesday Nov. 9th.  So I'm sure I'll be on here again later and more tomorrow....chatting with you all helps relieve stress-but lately I've been so addicted to this site I miss my window to have a shower!!! :roll:  :shock:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 07, 2005, 19:31:24 pm
Goodmorning - see, I told you I was back, you won't be able to get rid of me again now.  :oops:  :lol:

We had a great night last night. Daniel slept all night with no help! 6.30pm - 5.20am. I'm really tired of this 5.20am wake up and am going to work on that next. He just does not want to go back to sleep again once I feed him. DH thinks we should make sure he's sleeping thru the night regularly first before working on the early morning wake, what do you girls reckon? I'm wondering if we should be treating it as a night wake and therefore eliminating the same way, by DH cuddle and settle back to sleep. But I do wonder as he's then gon 11 hours without food, if it might not happen. I guess as we're hopefully going to have him on the bottle by the end of the week then this may change things anyway. The difficult thing with the early waking is it mucks up all his nap times. And he doesn't seem to be able to stay awake as long but he doesn't necessarily go down as easily. Grrr.

In fact just now we've been having problems, and I was determined not to feed him to get him to sleep. But I did feed him, then he still wouldn't go to sleep. So I wondered if it was his teeth. Yep, I gave him some teething powder, put him down, and I left him doing the 9 mile stare. Haven't heard a peep since I started typing this. So maybe that's all it was. Who knows???

I was still really tired thismorning even thou he slept all night, so when I got him up I put him in front of his toys in the lounge and I curled up on the sofa under a blanket and kept dozing/sleeping  :oops: I was right beside him and he was happy so I figured it was okay.

Micky, I can't believe Jack has curry. That's great! I wish I was more adventurous, sometimes I wonder if that's why Daniel doesn't want to eat much. He's sick and tired of his food. I might write myself out a bit of a eating plan so I can make myself get more varied food for him.

Well, I better leave this here, can't decide whether to have some more zzzzzz, clean the house, or have a shower. I need to do all three, but not sure the best order.  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 07, 2005, 19:39:48 pm
well didn't we have a heck of a night last night. Riley was up most of it, crying/screaming. Poor hunny couldn't breathe properly.
I had Jay to the docs, his ear infection is gone down in the left, but still fully loaded in his right, and he also now has a puffer to help with his breathing for a while, and it is riley's turn at the docs for her check tomorrow.
Well ladies it was sooo much fun chatting last night, judy we will be eagerly awaiting you joining us when the re runs start.
All this has put us back to square one, no solids or self soothing, but hey, no biggie. At least my doc has heard of BW, I told him Riley was on it and he said his wife had used it one their two. Yippee I am no longer alone in my parenting.....
Well I am off for now, wanted to pop in and let you all know how it is going here.
Take Care everyone......
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 07, 2005, 19:57:28 pm
Hi Ladies....back on line yet again....silly computer, making me so mad, I sure do need a new one...lol :evil: , I have so much catching up to do.
I'll back track and see what has been happening with all of you.

bbl
Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 07, 2005, 21:23:54 pm
more solid food Qs ladies:

my book says to heat up frozen cubes until piping hot, then let cool.  do you all do this?  I did it a few times and it's so time consuming.  okay if it's a thicker veg and you can add cold water to it but otherwise i'd have to prepare his meal way early.

also, for those using jarred food.  how long do you keep it in the fridge?  is there a time limit I should be adhering to for my carrots?  I guess he's eating more at a meal now so it's not such and issue but I'm just curious.

on a positive note...he loves avocado and broccoli!  he ate the broccoli just plain today.  I was expecting to have to mix it with other things.
he is just like his mommy and daddy.  I like to refer to us as "foodists" as we love food sooooo much!

okay, back later.

I'm seriously considering starting up a new business like Andrea so I'm all excited and starting my research.  woo hoo!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 07, 2005, 23:35:44 pm
Hi Traci

I don't do that with my frozen cubes - I just heat them warm enough to eat. I think you can keep jarred food 48 hours in the fridge after opening. I am not positive as I don't have any here right now. I would probably only keep it for 24 but I am a freak.

Halle loves avocado too - haven't tried broc yet only zuchini. Has anyone tried fish yet? I am not in a rush to try meat but just wondering. I think 'foodist' would make you hate food wouldn't it? I call people who hate my dog 'breedist' cause they are scared of the way she looks LOL :lol:

got a visitor - check back later
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 00:02:46 am
Hi Traci

All the baby books I have, and the dr told me that you can keep an opened bottle of baby food for up to 3 days only. Then toss out as it will build bacteria on the fourth day.  As well, I called the Heinz baby company and was told the same thing. So 72 hours.

Soooo..what kind of business are you starting up....I've been racking my brain lately of jobs I can start up here from home as well.  So I can stay home with Brady. Have come up with a few good ones too. Lots of opportunities out there.

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 08, 2005, 01:56:37 am
Hi - Traci, I only heat food until it's warm enough to eat. I guess if it had meat, especially chicken I'd heat it properly though. Prepared food is only 48 hours once opened here in NZ.

I"ve just given Daniel a piece of bread/oven toast. My mum made them for me last week and sent me back with some. There's nothing on it as he doesn't really seem to like vegemite yet. And, it had gone a little soft as it's a few days old but in an airtight containter. Anyway, he's happily sucking away and sitting in his highchair! He's still not too happy in the h/chair so I'm pleased this is working.

2 great naps today 1.5hours each. He'll be up now for 4.5 hours before bedtime at 6.30pm though, so hopefully he'll last. Unless he's in the car he doesn't take an afternoon nap now. Especially as mostly he's getting 2.5-3 hours of naps during the day without it.

I left him in his cot just before while I was putting away his clothes and much to my surprise and relief he happily(?) moved around on his tummy. He's still anti-tummy on the floor, but I'll try to do tummy time in the cot more and he might get used to it.

Nikki I meant to tell you before, Daniel has kumara and it doesn't seem to cause constipation. Is Danielle all sorted out in that department now?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 08, 2005, 02:32:19 am
thanks for the tips re: heating and storing food.  I was only keeping the carrots max three days anyway so that's good.

Is anyone having the opposite problem re: constipation.  Since 1am last night Cole has had 5 poopy diapers.  Some bigger than others, but still, poop is poop and needs to be changed :cry:  I did three diapers in the middle of the night last night as I mentioned before.  Changing this boy is no easy task either.  I am physically drained afterwards trying to hold him down. :?  He had the biggest broccoli poop after his last feed (broccoli from lunch).  Does it just take their bodies a while to adjust to the new foods and absorb more of them?  I guess the carrots go right through him too.  I worry that maybe I'm feeding him too much, but he would keep eating more at the end of every meal if I had more.  He pretty much eats 2 cubes of veg and 3 tbsp of cereal at every meal now.  That's a lot, isn't it? Who posted that chart?  The high end showed 29 tbsp of food.  I guess I'm okay then, as Cole is at around 21 now give or take (1 cube = 2 tbsp, right?) I think I'm going to introduce fruit before I finish all the vegetables.  I don't think it will be an issue for Cole to eat other vegs after fruit.  It seems he'll eat just about anything.  I'm really excited to get to the point where Jackson is...where I can just mash/blend the things I have for dinner and stuff. 

Holly-I emailed you re: my business idea.  Clothing for parents and babies...just in the researching stage right now.  Hoping to make it a success so I can stay home when #2 comes around.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 08, 2005, 03:01:03 am
Hayley - if it's any help, the first few teeth Katie got, she was up every day at 5 AM for a week, so maybe that has something to do with your early wakings?

Micky - hope Jack's surgery is going ahead as planned and that all goes well.

Worked my first full day today - dropped Katie off at day care around 9 and got home at 8:15 - it's only two days a week that I do that, so trading those two days away instead of 5 full ones is definitely worth the craziness.  DH picks her up at daycare and is supposed to put her to bed at 7:30, which is her routine, but it seems more often than not, she's still up when I come home.  Though today when I walked in her room while she was about to have her bottle, she practically jumped out of his arms trying to get to me.  Now that was a wonderful feeling   :D  :D  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 08, 2005, 03:42:12 am
Hi everyone, i too have had problems with my computer and have BW withdrawls :(. Iwill go back tonight after james goes to bed and read everything. 

Traci, in regards to Coles' poos, I notice that James does more when he is teething (he has 3) but even on his normal days, he always does at least 2 :o .

Our days are going well.  Does anyone else worry they have a ADD baby?  James does not stop moving!  He is like the Energizer bunny - no wonder he sleeps for about 11-12hrs a night.   :shock: Dressing at bedtime is often a 2 person job.  I have had many a day where James only wears a nappy and singlet during the day because it is easier(it is summer here). 

Solids are going well.  I haven't found anything that doesn't agree with him.  I have James on chicken and beef, lots of different veges now but will wait until 8mths to introduce fish.  He also has scrambled eggs and so far, so good........ :)
He still prefers his savour foods he will eat fruits etc but not without screwign his face to start with. 

Does anyone have trouble getting their lo's to drink out of a sippy cup?  James will drink out of a normal cup (no lid) but will not use the sippy lids?

HOpe everyone is going well.  Jo and Deb, I will email those recipes to you shortly.  Sorry for the delay.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/sprited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 08, 2005, 03:45:49 am
Just one more question:  is anyone else doing finger foods? James has 3 teeth and I have been doing bread, banana and watermelon.  Has anyone tried cheese? What other foods have you used?

Thanks
Lisa
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 08, 2005, 04:48:47 am
Hello everyone.  Missed the chat too, Dh and I are trying to get back to running. 
Andrea-I feel very guilty about buying things.  I bought a very cute pair of corduroys for Ben yesterday and returned them today.  I feel like I can't buy anything for myself.  Not sure what's going to happen once I get into full fledged Christmas shopping.  It is frustrating how tight our budget is but what can I do?  I am curious about all of this at home business start up.  THose of you who are doing it please be sure to keep us informed.
Hayley-I take naps/snoozes while Ben is happily playing in the morning.  I think it is okay as long as I am right next to him, the story will be different very soon when he starts crawling. :oops:
Traci-I don't heat the food up super hot.  I don't have the stinking time to wait for it to cool off.  SOme of the food heats up a lot faster than other cubes so I end up really toasting some of it.
Lisa-Ben is super active at night when we are changing him and for his last feed.  His legs, arms and voice are going crazy.  I sometimes wonder how much chocolate I ate to make this kid be so wild!  JJ I can't have more than 1 cookie at a time because I bounce off the wall.  We are hoping that he didn't inherit that gene.
We are having 6am wakings and he used to sleep until 6:30-7:30.  That extra 30 minutes of sleep is very missed.
Sleepy time here, talk to you all tomorrow.  I wish we could all meet up for coffee...
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 08, 2005, 05:31:51 am
Traci, we had brocolli poos here today too. He had them for the first time today at midday and it was thru him by 4pm. Very sloppy. Yick!

As I mentioned earlier Daniel doesn't really take an afternoon catnap anymore. Well, due to a 5.30am start to the day, he was very tired by late thisafternoon, so I bathed and put him down by 6pm. DH is worried he'll wake up earlier but I"m hoping for later. At least he's not awake and grumpy any more. We're hoping for another full night sleep tonight. I"ve said to DH I think we should consider 5.am(ish) as a night waking and therefore try to resettle like we are now doing if it's at 2am. He's not so sure. Oh well, we'll see what happens over night.

Daniel's still not eating that much. Only about 60gms food (2oz I think) or 2 cubes of veges per meal. Or is that about what your LO's are doing? I think you discussed that a while back but can't recall. We've got our health nurse visit tomorrow, so I guess I'll find out what she has to say. Daniel also gets weighed and measured so that's exciting to see how he's progressed.

Well, DH is at a work function tonight so I've got to cook myself dinner.  :cry: Normally it's cooked for me! I know, I"m very lucky. I think part of the reason DH is so keen for Daniel to bottle feed is so he can do the last feed of the night and I can cook dinner.  :lol:

Oh, speaking of feeding, we tried the different teet for the Dr Brown bottle today and Daniel took 30 mls of water - and he seemed happy about it! Actually wanted it in his mouth. I might be brave and try some formula tomorrow.

Bye for now.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 08, 2005, 06:35:16 am
I'm just going to have to jump right on in, I've missed posting for a few days...

Hayley, the kumura seems to be fine with D now, I think that maybe she just needed to get used to the feeling of a firmer poo coming out. 

D only eats probably 2Tbsns of food at lunch and then again at dinner, I dropped her back a little today since she hasn't been drinking as much milk and I really want to keep that up as her main nutrition for a few more months.

Traci, I also only heat my frozen cubes enough to defrost it and warm it.   If you do do the piping hot method, try transferring it onto a cold plate (even chilled in the fridge if you like).

Yay, D slept right through the night last night - a first for a wee while.  Not sure if was the new block out curtains since her room is quite light from street lights, but we'll see what happens tonight.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 08, 2005, 12:55:56 pm
Traci - I can't believe you are changing poopy diapers in the night - I say thank goodness Cole isn't having a curry like Jakcson!! :D  :shock:   I don't know why, probably just getting used to all the new foods.  I keep the jarred food for 2 days and Sophie is eating 4 oz(4 cubes) every meal :shock: is that alot??  that is 8 TBSP, 24 a day...anyone else feeding this much?


LIsa - LOL about the ADD!  I asked DH the other day if he thought Sophie was normal as she was spinning in circles on her tummy squealing :shock: !  Also dressing her is both of our least favourite thing to do.  It is hot here all the time so she is always just in a onesie and sometimes just a diaper and socks. 

Micky - I think you hear for sure today about Jack's surgery tomorrow...GOODLUCK!!  I hope DH is feeling better.

Yah Daniel and Danielle on sleeping through the night!! 

Hayley - I am not sure if you should class the 5am wake up as night waking either, it is a tough call as he has slept for 11 hours, sorry not much help here..

Erin - What a great welcome home from Katie.  isn't it nice to finally get some recognition from these lo's that we have been putting our heart and soul into? :D :wink:

I tried Yobaby yogurt yesterday - wow what a reaction, she hates it!!  I really thought i would hold off on yogurt as i didn;t want her to really like it want it all the time!!  I have never seen a reaction like that to food - I think she was actually angry that I tried to feed it to her!!  But then being mean mommy, when DH got home I gave her some more so he could see her reaction and we had a good chuckle, poor Sophie :oops: !

I am at home today, trying to work and get the house organized for our move as they are doing construction on our roof  :shock:   We have not had a very successful nap rate!  I also am trying desperately to tie up loose ends for work as I want to have an easy transition and I also have to get ready to go to Canada by the end of the month!!!!!  I need a massage.... :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 08, 2005, 15:10:55 pm
hi guys!!
 well, we are waiting to hear from the OR to make sure Jack's surgery is still on for tomorrow.  thanks for all the well-wishes.  DH is sad because he doesn't think he should come to the hospital with all the other sick kids being there. :(

about the food-isn't one cube=to one tbsp=1/2 oz  ??  that's what I thought.  Because for sure 1 oz is = to 30 mls.  I don't know that just my thought.

Another comment on rolling/squirmy babes and diaper changes....I have been giving Jackson a "special" teddy to hold onto and play with during diaper changes and that helps to keep him still.

I'm sure I'll be on here at least one more time to get my "fix".  Talk to you all later!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 08, 2005, 15:45:10 pm
About solids...

I am totally winging it here... Arwyn gets nowhere close to what the recommended range is (according to the previously posted guidelines). I am taking it to mean 4-8 tbsp per day total... not of each food. Is this correct?

Arwyn eats maybe 2 tbsps of food per meal... most of the time, it is less. I don't know if this is normal. As my DH keeps saying, we have no frame of reference. I know that my friends have los who will eat 6-8 oz at a meal!

Also... about the cubes. A standard tray makes 1 oz. cubes (2 tbsp) usually. Tupperware (the one with the lid) makes .5 oz. cubes (1 tbsp). I just bought them and will be making some because I am constantly throwing out food!

Hope everything is well for everybody. I think we are finally on the way to recovery. Only 4 wakings last night :shock: and this is a good improvement from the sleepless nights we have been experiencing over here. We also are struggling with the 6 am wake-up. Ever since the time change, we have been unable to convince her to go back to sleep until 7 am. It used to be so easy to do that :roll: but as we all know, once we get it figured out...

Micky... I hope Jackson's surgery goes as planned for tomorrow. I'll be thinking of you and Jackson. I'm also sending get well vibes to your poor DH!

Oh... one last thing. About the cup/sippy cup issue. Tupperware has these lids that have no valve and the spouts are quite small (not like some of the gigantic spouts that Arwyn has trouble getting into her mouth) and we have been quite successful in getting her to drink water from it. I still use the regular cup with handles but we use that for milk only. She expects milk in that cup and will make a funny face if she gets something else.

TTFN! (Hannah, that's for you.)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 08, 2005, 16:06:24 pm
okay, what is TTFN?  I am acronym clueless.

I think that a typical ice cube tray is 1oz, 2tbsp.  I'll have to check BWSAYP again.  But as Ankie said...some specialty ones are smaller.  maybe you have one of those Micky?  Ankie- I believe it meant 4-8 tbsp for each food.  On the low end, Arwyn would only have to eat 2 cubes at each meal...that's not too bad.  I'm sure she'll work her way up.  There's no rush.  Look at Judy struggling to get 1 tbsp b/w two girls!!!  They'll eat when they are ready...just like Cole will sleep through when he is LOL

Best wishes for the surgery Micky.  Good call by DH not to go to the hospital. As much as he'd like to be there, certainly not a good idea exposing all those people.

Lisa-re ADD.  you're not serious, are you?  Cole is just as energetic as James.  It is exhausting but every day I just count my lucky stars that he is happy and healthy.  Not sure when concern for ADD would come in to play.  sorry if you were just being sarcastic.   :?

Yay to Daniel and Danielle on the good sleeps. 

Cole wasn't too bad last night.  fed at 9, up for an hour from 11-12 (heard DH come home I think) fed at 2, up at 5:00.  OH well.  Not sure what to do about the 5 am wake up.   Might cut out catnap today and see if that makes him more tired.  It's a vicious circle...5 am wakeup, hard to make it all day.  So I'll stretch him for a late 2nd nap and put him down early for bed.

Erin-so glad to hear work went well and that warm welcome must have been so rewarding at the end of it all ( I need that emoticon with the cute heart attached to it here)

gotta run...not happy in the saucer...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 17:23:04 pm
Traci - I think the poopy diapers are just what happens. Brady has been the same way, I think first its their bodies getting use to new food, and second, the more food they start to eat the more they are gonna go...lol....they were used to just breast milk before so its a big change.  Glad to hear you got some better sleep....and the ttfn is ta ta for now....lol


Lisa - dressing Brady is  very difficult these days as well, i have to try and keep him very occupied with toys etc, to try to even change his diaper...

Micky - Good  luck about Jack's surgery tomorrow.

Great work  Daniel and Danielle on the good sleeps.

 
Richelle, good luck with the naps today with all your construction.....

Sooo, I'm so very happy with our sleep last night.  Its the best we have ever gotten.
I've been tweaking his routines for a bit now, trying to find what works best for Brady and well here goes yesterday.

wake             800
BF                8:30
Breakfast        9:00
Nap                10:15
wake             1:15
Lunch             1:30
Bottle            2:00
Nap                4:00
Wake             6:15
Supper             7:00
Bottle             8:00
wind down, story, song etc
Sleep             9:10
Wake at             10:30 for 1/2 an hour
wake at             12am for 1/2 hour
wake at             3:00 am for one hour, needing diaper change etc
and then final wake at 6:50 am



the best we've ever had...lol

Well gotta run, lo is getting restless....I'm so happy about our night though, my body isn't sure what to do with all this rest...lol

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 08, 2005, 18:02:02 pm
Hey Holly-so it looks like Brady has become super napper extraordinaire!  Might I suggest limiting his day sleep?  I know that it sounds ridiculous because you work so hard getting him to sleep in the first place...but he had 5.25 hours of day sleep yesterday it looks like.  that is a lot.  Average for this age is 2.25.  If you look he was up for a total of 2 hours in the night plus he went to bed at 9 which is a touch late.  Their best sleep is before midnight, so try to have him down for 8. This will be easier when you cut the naps down. That gives you 3 hours of awake time at night that seems to offset with his long naps IYKWIM?   I would aim for a total of 3 hours max.   just my opinion.  Does anyone have any input for Holly on how much sleep and which nap should be longer?  sorry if that's confusing...i kept adding thoughts here and there.  does it make sense?  Seems like he's getting used to his routine.  It does take time but I think you are already starting to see the benefits.  Yay Brady!

okay, I should go and get ready for our stroll after his nap.  he went down at 12:45 and I'm hoping he goes until 2, for bed at 6pm.

This morning he had a 30 min. nap and I held him for another hour or so (broken up into bits as I tried putting him down 3 times w/o success).

Holly-please email me the stay at home ideas you've come across...or we can discuss next time we meet up.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 08, 2005, 18:09:49 pm
Yes...TTFN...ta ta for now...let's see what other ones I can pull up from my note passing days in highschool...BFF  Best friends forever...JK Just Kidding..KS Keep Smiling...that's all I can think of for now but there are more I'm sure.

Anyhow.  Congrats on the good night Holly.  You've come a long way already!! Yay for you.

Ugh, changing diapers and pj's...yes it is a major struggle here too.  As is wiping the face after a meal. Seriously you would think I was oh I don't know (insert something very painful here) with the way she screams and cries and turns away from the washcloth.  Any one having the same issue?  Any ideas?
I like the idea for the toy while changing.  Funny how they just keep getting older and you forget to grow with them at times :)

Micky best wishes for the surgery I will be thinking about you and Jackson.

The sippy cup issue.  I though nuby's were the ticket but she has since decided not to like Nuby's I guess, I know you are supposed to stick with the same one for what three weeks?? But of course I switched to Avent and she will actually drink a little water from that, without the...argh mommy brain what do you call those things...oh yes! valves (??) I have seen the tupperware ones before they sound good, maybe I'll try to locate one.

LOL richelle about the yobaby...sounds like something I would do. The faces are pretty funny when they don't like something and it sounds like all the lo's are getting a wee bit fiesty about likes and dislikes!!!

Food-I am desperate for some more ideas.  She is loving the melt in your mouth cereal thingys from gerber.  I love the watermelon idea.   DH is sooo worried about choking he has kinda got me really scared too but truly she probably will have more troubles until she gets the hang of it, so I guess I have to get over it.  We tried that mesh bag thingy where you put the food inside and they can chew on it.  She wanted NOTHING to do with it which is really weird because she puts every thing in her mouth.
I was just saying to my running partner this morning, I have a hard enough time figuring out what to make for myself and dh for dinner, now I have to plan meals for her as well?!  It has been so easy up until now to just buy, open and serve :)  But I agree, I think she's a little bored with gerber :) Time to move on.

Nikki-do you know the reasoning behind milk feeds being the ideal main source of nutrition? Just curious.  ALso, for how long? One year?

I think I'll try egg yolk, pear slices to gnaw on, maybe watermelon if I can find some...
What about bread, how do you serve that...Hayley you and Lisa both mentioned it.
I went to "worldmarket" yesterday hoping to find some of those heinz teething rusks...no such luck.  I ended up buying a whole bunch of cadbury chocolate though...not that I needed it.  I think I am PMSing I have been a bit of a rager the last few days.
OK, OK, enough already!
TTFNTML (just made that up...ta ta for now to my ladies
 :lol: )
You guys really bring out the goof in me.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 08, 2005, 18:12:36 pm
Traci,
I guess we posted at the same time!
Sopie sleeps a lot during the day too, and still goes 11-12 hours at night.  I am not bragging really, sometimes dh and I acll her a sleepaholic...
She usually takes two 1.5-2 hour naps...and sometimes a .5 catnap on top of that??? Doesn't that seem strange?
Anyhow, just thought I'd thrown my two cents in on that one.
See ya later.
hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 08, 2005, 18:21:56 pm
thanks for posting that Hannah-about the sleep.  I really should stop blathering on about things I maybe know nothing about :cry:  :oops:  :?

I guess I just figured that if he's not sleeping through then that could be the issue...okay Holly-just ignore me for now and enjoy your free time during the day (and sleep when he sleeps!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 08, 2005, 18:26:12 pm
What does IYKWIM mean?  I see it a lot.

Hope the surgery is a success!

I've only tried one sippy cup with Sol, no handles w/ valve.  Do you ladies keep the valve in?

We've hit a bad teething episode with night wakings over the last 3 days.  He only woke up once last night at about 9:30 and I gave him a dummy from the freezer.  Any other suggestions for numbing?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 18:29:42 pm
Thanks Hannah and Traci, for your posts on Brady's sleep.
I appreciate both inputs.
I was thinking maybe he was still up last night due to sleeping too much during the day...but becasue he's never slept like that , I let him go yesterday. But as we go on, and if it contiues, then maybe I should start waking him up after 1.5-2 hrs of a naptime, and see if he will then sleep thru the nite...who knows. Right now I'm just not sure if its a one time thing yet...lol...and yes Traci, I have been napping when he was, as I have never had the opportunity before...lol....
Enjoy your stroll, and I'll email you my ideas etc, or like you said when we get together again we can talk about them.

Holly

A few more short forms I though of too....
bfn -bye for now
bbl - be back later
bbs - be back soon

I'll try and remember more.... :?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 18:30:39 pm
Roz - I asked the same question a few weeks ago, it means you know what I mean (YKWIM)

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 08, 2005, 18:31:24 pm
solnme, roz, right?  baby brain kicking in.

If You Know What I Mean (IYKWIM)

frozen washcloths are a cheap, safe numbing idea.  I've been using a teething gel as well.  I often partially freeze his water too so that it's nice and cold for him.

I've been using the Nuby but he just chews on it, sips a bit sometimes.  Tried a no handle cup by Heinz today with the valve.  Much the same, more chewing.  I found the Nuby too big for him to tip up to get the water, and if it's full it's kind of heavy.  Will try this (heinz)for a while and maybe move to a cup with handles.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 08, 2005, 18:36:37 pm
Traci...no not at all...it could very well be that he is sleeping too much in the day. In fact that is the first thing I think of when Sophie has night wakings!! I think it was a good suggestion. Not blathering.. OK, gotta go, baby waking :)
BBL  :D
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 18:40:56 pm
Traci - when you mean you particially freeze Cole's water, do you mean his drinking water...sorry I am just a bit confused lol :oops:  :?
if so, does he take it cold like that? 

I use the frozen wash cloths for Brady too, it seems to help :!:

Holly


BBL :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 08, 2005, 18:54:00 pm
yes, his drinking water.  seeing as he doesn't really drink much I think he likes it since the very cold water is in the nipple part of the cup while he chews
Title: naps
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 19:02:58 pm
Quick question, if I wanted to wake Brady from his long nap, when would I do it, at what time, and how?

 :oops:  :roll:  :?  :?:

Confused
Holly
Title: Feeds
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 19:08:35 pm
After reading what all of you have been feeding your lo, not sure if Brady is getting enough to eat or not.... This is his usual day as per food wise:

wakes and is BF (so not sure what he is getting)
then cereal (3tbsp) and Fruit (2tbsp)

Lunch is vegetable (2tbsp) and fruit (2tbsp)
Bottle 6oz

Supper is vegetalbe (2tbsp) and fruit (2tbsp) and cereal (3tbsp)
BF

Before bed, bottle about 6 oz

sometime in the middle of the night, never the same time, he wakes to feed, and is BF

Any suggestions?

Holly
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 08, 2005, 19:25:57 pm
Wow, I've never really thought about how much I'm feeding my kids, I'm just being guided by them - I feed them if they're hungry and stop when they're full.  If your babies are thriving, growing, weighing well and content then you're all offering the perfect amount of food for YOUR baby. OK, I'll get off that soapbox now.  :wink:   

Hannah, with the milk being more nutritious for now, it is the most well balanced meal a baby can have until 12mths - they get the calcium, iron and other minerals and vitamins without worrying where it comes from - this is for breastmilk and formula.  In NZ we're suggested to drop down to 3 milk feeds a day around 9-10mths and offer the milk after solids, so I guess it becomes a little less important as a fuller, well rounded diet is established.

Oh and daysleep - BW method is for 2 x 1.5-2hrs + 11-12hrs at night.  D is still napping 45 + 2.5-3hrs during the day (3-4hrs a day).  I think that sleep chart is probably looking at averages and also takes into account babies that don't sleep well, have reflux etc.  JMHO.

Hope your day's are all going well.  D did another sleep through last night - yay, hopefully we're on the improvement!  :roll:  :P
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 08, 2005, 19:56:41 pm
Hi,

Just thought I would pop on quick before we go to the beach to burn off some steam and get out of the construction zone!

Thanks for that Nikki about the food insight - it helps sometimes to be reminded that we are all GOOD moms!  Well done Danielle on the good sleep again.

Holly - My 1st thought when reading your post was that Brady was getting too much sleep in the day.  I have limited Sophie to 3.45 hours a day.  Again just my opinion but any little bit of insight hellps right?

Traci - Sophie does not like cold drinks!  It is so weird especially considering it is always warm here!

Any advice on how anyone in a cold climate dresses their LO's for sleep as we will need to get some things for Sophie when we go to Canada.  I am worried about how she is oing to adjust to such a drastic climate change.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

TTFN - I love that, doesn't Pooh say that all the time?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 08, 2005, 20:03:22 pm
Richelle, thanks for your post, wondering though as I posted after, how does one wake their lo up from a nap if he's having such a good one..I need help in waking him up....????? :?

As for sleep here in Canada, Brady wears fleece all in one sleepers. They're fuzzy and warm, very cozy.  HTH

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 08, 2005, 20:08:02 pm
hi guys!

okay-we've been scheduled for 10 am for the OR tomorrow.  I'm not supposed to feed him after 4am.  Only clear fluids till 7 am.  Jack doesn't wake at night anymore to feed.  Would you guys wake him at 3:45ish to feed him so that he isn't starving and miserable by the time he goes to the OR??

Richelle-as for dressing sophie-what I dress Jackson in is a onesie, and pair of PJ's and then his sleeping bag (made out of fleece)on top of that.  He's warm enough with all that on and not over-warm.  His room is probably about 17-18Celcius.

Holly- I can't believe how much progress you've made with Brady in such a short time!!!  That is fantastic!  I think that you are probably feeding enough...he'll only eat as much as he wants...it's not like you can over feed him IYKWM?!! :D   And I agree probably just a smidge too much daytime sleep....but now that you've posted what he did yesterday he'll change it all again!! :D   I would wake him after about 2 hours IMO.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 08, 2005, 20:10:06 pm
holly-we posted at the same time-when I have to wake jack ( not very often!!) I just go into his room and start talking to him softly and rubbing his belly.  That will usually cause him to stir a little then I'll turn on his bedside light (it pretty dim) and he'll usually wake up slowly after that.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 08, 2005, 20:37:27 pm
Oh and just to add why I let Danielle sleep for that long in the afternoon - because she doesn't have a catnap, I just let her go as long as she will since she's up until 7pm, so sometimes she only sleeps 2hrs, but I count every extra minute as a bonus (but have occasionally woken her at 4pm at the latest).  If for some bizarre reason she sleeps past 45mins in the morning, I never let her go past 11am otherwise the rest of the day will be out.

Holly, another thing is, definitely wake him after 2hrs at the most since you're trying to fix up a routine and get on track.  He may be quite tired for a few days while you're shifting his sleep patterns around and be cranky as a result, but stick with it and try and aim for 11-12hrs overnight sleep (there may still be feeds in this time, but the aim is to have him fall straight back asleep rather than want to interact).
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 08, 2005, 20:38:22 pm
Holy cats, you all have been busy ladies the last day and a half!   :shock:

Regarding food:  Ryan would eat 18 cubes a meal if I let him...quite the piggy.  My ped. said about 6 tbsp. 3/day is good for this age, but as Nikki (and of course BW) pointed out each kid is different.  And, we are still going with bf as the main source until 12 mos. per most things I've read, too.

Richelle, I always make dh come and see a funny face Ryan makes.  He did NOT like the spices on the pureed chicken the other night and I just kept trying to give it to him so he'd get used to it.  He made the same face every time.  Next time I gave it to him with 2 cubes of sweet potatoes and some ebm and he did much better. Still not a huge fan, though. 

Holly, I think you should go with the flow for a few days, but then cut back on the day sleep.  I've had to wake Ryan a few times.  Just like Micky said, I talk softly, turn off his noise maker, and turn on a dim light.  That usually does the trick.  Or you could try dh's method: Barge into the room and say, "Who's sleeping in here?" in a loud, silly voice.  Ryan doesn't seem to mind (always wakes with a big smile for Daddy), but sometimes you have to bite your tongue, don't you?   :?   

Big excitement around here:  a HUGE poop during lunch.  Ryan usually has a BM at some point in the high chair.  Guess sitting up gets him going.  (Sorry, TMI).  So, I just let him go to it and fed him between grunts/pushes.  (How gross is this post?)  When he finished, I pulled back the tray and there was poop all over.   :shock:  :cry:   It was on him, the chair, under the chair pad, on the straps.  GROSS!!!  I think it was his first bout of the runs in a long time.  I feel like bad mommy for letting him sit there, but he didn't seem upset by it at all.   :oops:   Oh, well, we all have our moments...which is why it's nice to come on here and not feel so bad after all! 

~~~~~Good surgery~~~~~ vibes to Jackson!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 08, 2005, 20:48:14 pm
Goodmorning!

Holly, Daniel probably has about the same amount and Brady both solids and  milk. Although not sure as Daniel is breastfed so can't measure, but I don't think he takes huge amounts. As for food, Brady may even take more than Daniel.

I measured the icecube tray thismorning, mine is as follows:

1 cube = 2 tblspn
2 tblspn = 30mls
30 mls = 1 oz

Therefore, for those of us with 2 cube eaters at a meal, they're having 2 oz of food.

We had a reasonably good night last night. Daniel woke around 1.30am and DH resettled him with a quick cuddle and some teething medication. Then again thismorning at 4.30am, but although he went quiet, by 5am he was making noises again so I got up and fed him one side. I think it was definitely hunger that time as it was about his usual amount of sleep time before he woke. He went down early last night. Then he slept again until about 7am. We're having our frequent battle to settle now though and he's letting me know how unhappy he really is.  :cry: We've got our coffee group thismorning so I really wanted him to be well and truly asleep by now as we need to go out in just over 30 mins. I think I"ll just get him up when I'm all ready cos I know if he's tired he'll just fall asleep in the car for another 30 mins anyway. Oh yay, he's just gone quiet. Let's hope it stays that way.

Nikki, your post reminded me about the 'average' sleep for baby. This means Daniel is doing exactly what he 'should' be. LOL. According to the charts. Most days now he does 1.5 hours x 2 and 11-12 at night. Wahooo!!!! I must tell DH when he wakes up.

DH is 'struggling' when I wake him at the moment to go to Daniel at night. He also had a 1am bedtime last night due to his work function. But I can see even without this he finds it hard waking and GETTING OUT OF BED to Daniel. My secret thought is at least he's learning / experiencing what I've been thru for the last 7 months.

Well Daniel is officially asleep so time to get ready to go.

TTFN
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 08, 2005, 21:13:27 pm
All right Kate,what is it with you and Ryan and poop??!! LOL
I often think about the fact that my dd just poops away, grunts and all in just about any situation...she's not bashful, even in public, ah to be that uninhibited
 :lol:

Oh, also, I laughed when I read about how dh wakes up Ryan, dh does that here too.  He is soooo loud all the time it seems.  If he gets her all riled before bed he'll say."I'm just getting the last of her energy out"  Yeah, sure whatever, and yes, lots of eye rolling.

Holly aI think you got some good advice about waking.  I think you should after 2 hours, or at least in time for the next feed??  So that he can stay on sched. a little.

Nikki-thanks for the info on the feeds and the thoughts on eating amounts in general.  I think you are so right.  This is why I always thought it a little starnge, to tell you the trulth about the dropping the df thing in bw.  She says to add a few ounces to other feeds....but what if they are full right then?  Anyhow...I appreciated your thoughts.

I was going to buy yobaby at the store but forgot, darn...wanted to see that "Sophie" face :)
I did find Baby Mum-mums though!!! Yay! we'll see how it all goes.
Later Kids.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 08, 2005, 23:03:04 pm
Richelle - reading your post about going to walk on the beach made me VERY jealous  :D  - and I'm also jealous of all you ladies below the equator who are heading into the warm weather and not out of it.  I really have to move farther south one day where winter is not quite so cold.  Not that I should complain though, as things have been unseasonably warm around here.  Oh, and Richelle, our house is pretty chilly - the thermostat is set at I think 62 at night, of course that's Fahrenheit and I am SO metrically impaired - on the chilly nights, I keep Katie in a long sleeved onesie, a light pair of pajamas (I have these Carter's thermal one pieces that I love), a fleece pair of pajamas (with feet) and a sleep sack.  Since she's used to sleeping in a relatively warm room, I might plan on overdressing her, but I'm always cold, so that's just my opinion.

Hannah - your junior high acronyms crack me up  :lol:

OK, another metrically impaired question from me - anyone know how many tablespoons = 1 ounce?  From Hayley's post it looks like 2.  Katie is certainly eating a lot these days!  I'll have to let everyone know once I figure it out in tablespoons.  My book The Nursing Mother's Companion which I have found to be a great breastfeeding resouce (recommended to me by a lactation consultant) recommends starting to make the switch to milk after solids after 8 months.  I was thinking about switching for her lunchtime feed.  She loves her morning boob so much, I couldn't bear to give her solids first just yet.  Still contemplating switching to formula for the middle two feeds, have to see how this whole working thing works out - I'm constantly with kids, no time at all to pump, but it's only two days a week.  However, I have to think that even twice a week skipping those middle feeds and not pumping is going to affect my supply sooner or later. 

Kate - you and poop - how funny...

Micky - thinking of you and Jackson's surgery tomorrow.  How close to 7AM does he normally eat?  I would think that if he usually eats just at 7 that you might hold off feeding him all together - I would worry that waking him up at 3:45 might have some disasterous consequences.  Oh wait, just reread your post and noticed that he's not having the surgery until 10AM - hmmm, I think I might wake him up then and feed him, otherwise that's a really long time for him to go without eating.  Sorry for waffling here.

Holly - Sounds like you and Brady are doing great!  I too think he may be sleeping a bit long during the day, but that's just my opinion.  Also, I nurse Katie 4x a day - usually 8, 12, 4, and 7:30 and give solids around 8:30, 12:15, and 5:30.  I noticed your evening BF is in with supper - maybe if you spread them out a bit he would take more of both and not need the night feed?  Wishful thinking, I'm sure, but you never know. 

Nikki - Great to hear that Danielle's sleeping well.  Maybe with getting Nathan's dietary needs straightened out, you can actually get a full night's sleep for a few days running!  Wouldn't that be something  :D

Have a good night all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 08, 2005, 23:06:11 pm
Traci - sorry if i scared you, yes I was being sarcastic re:  ADD.  James is just a very active baby.  Crawling properly at 6.5mths andfor the last 2-3 weeks, he is pulling himself up. He just doesn't stopall day.  so sorry if I upset you :oops:

Hannah in re: bread.  James has had it both as bread and toast.  I don't use any butter just vegemite.  I haven't put anything else on.  James also is a pretty big eater.  I have given him scrambled eggs a couple of timesand he likes that.  I just use 2 egg yolks and a bit of formula and 20-30sec in microwave and it is nice and creamy.  I also give rice, couscous with veges and meat.  He probably hasa couple of tbs of ceral in mornign and sometimes a "finger" of toast.  Lunch is about 2 cubes of veges + fruit/yoghurt.  Dinner is 1meat + 2 veges +fruit or yoghurt.  I try to make sure he has a least one protein meal.  Also I only give yoghurt at either lunch or dinner not both.  I try to make little "casserole" ice cubes as this way I know each cube will have at least meat and 2 veges in.  I have a few recipes if you would like me to post them to you. 

Sleep is going well.  Naps are anywhere from 45min-2hrs x 2 times a day.  He hasn't wanted a catnap for awhile so in the afternoons he is sometimes awake for about 4hrs but he seems to handle it well.  I guess becasue it is broken up with dinner bath etc itis not too bad.  He then sleeps for about 11hrs at night.  :)

Hope the surgery goes well for you.  Take care, I would probably wake andfeed early if you think he will need it.  Or could you do a DF around 12am?  Just a thought.

Take care everyone.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 08, 2005, 23:19:22 pm
Micky, that's such a hard question about the feed...Lisa a df is a really good idea.  That way maybe you don't throw him off too much but still get him some food???

Lisa thanks for the food suggestions.  I am going to try the scrambeled egg idea for dinner tonight.  And maybe tomorrow some toast.  Do you just toast a regular slice of bread?  Sorry if I seem thick on this one, I'm just trying to picture it :lol:

Erin, glad my junior highschool experience turned out to be good for something! :wink:

BTW, dh is too funny lately.  Remeber during the chat how he went to bed at about 8pm?  He is really trying to get to bed early so that he can get up early and workout.  he's trying to loose his baby weight :)  OK, this is good for a laugh...he'd die if he knew how much fun I've been having at his expense...ok quick disclaimer...dh is a wonderful amazing person, dad, partner etc.  I am truly lucky to have found him. That is sincere.  Now again, back to the fun.. as a way of getting back in shape he suggested sexercise!!! (and he was DEAD serious)

 :lol:  :oops:
Now doesn't THAT sound like fun??? (Maybe to you Naomi...since you have been feeling 19 again :wink: )

Hope you're all laughing.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 09, 2005, 00:51:52 am
Oh Hannah, you crack me up (so does your DH's weight loss program  :lol: )

Well... from the discussion, it seems like Arwyn isn't really taking enough solid food. Today, breakfast was a total waste... only got maybe a teaspoon into her. Lunch was about 1 tablespoon. She was very interested in what I was eating so I rinsed off a few spiral noodles for her and she gobbled them up. She will also eat Cheerios until the cows come home. I wonder if that counts? Not the most balanced diet :roll: but I can't get anything else into her. And thank you Nikki for the reminder that as long as she is thriving, all is good.

I'm going to wait a few more weeks before giving her solids before breast for her middle meals. I want to preserve the morning and evening BFs... as much for me as for her  :oops: I really enjoy that time with her.

Just feeling a little low today :(  with the solids thing and today, after 5 good days on routine and with good naps, we have regressed to short naps and cranky baby. I just gotta pull myself together. I wish it wouldn't affect me so much :roll: . Sometimes I wonder if I didn't set myself up for it... I know moms who have no routine, no set nap times, don't worry about length of naps, etc. They seem much happier (or are they good at covering the worry up?) and their kids are fine too. But like they say about enlightenment, you can't go back. So I guess I'll just plug along. :cry:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 09, 2005, 02:06:58 am
Ankie...big (((hugs))) to you!  We all have those days.  From your post, it seems like Arwyn might prefer to feed herself instead of you feeding her.  Is she a bit independent?  I have friends whose lo's refused solids until finger foods were introduced.  Obviously watching her feed herself 25 peas will take a lot longer than shoveling in the pureed kind, but whatever it takes, right?  There are also fruits you can cut up, plus meat sticks, eggs, etc.  You might want to give it a shot. 

Hannah, there was a girl on Oprah the other day who claims to have lost a bunch of weight on your dh's program. Didn't get to see it, just the commercial, but maybe someone else can fill you in on the specifics.   :lol:

Hayley, not sure I said welcome back, but I thought it and we all missed you!

That's it for now, ladies.  Have a good one!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 09, 2005, 03:58:18 am
Hi everyone

We've just had our Plunket nurse here, and Daniel is now a big 8.3kg (18lb 5oz). Progressing just fine she says. I talked about me being a bit 'scared' to introduce foods and not very good at it, she said that's okay, but to be adventurous if I can. He can even eat gingernut biscuits! And, she said the normal adult yoghurts are fine, just not the strawberry or diet ones. Even the chocolate and caramel 'plastic' yoghurts are okay. So I'm now definitely going to write out a plan. DH and I have always said we want Daniel to eat well, and what we eat, so I better get started. I may also try to push out his bed time again to 7pm and somehow get us all eating dinner about 6pm, then he can watch us eat too. That might take a bit longer, I'll probably just start with increasing his variety of food. Also, she said I can now switch the lunch and b/feed around so he's having lunch when he first wakes from morning nap, if it's not too early. I'll probably feed lunch around 11am. I find it all a bit daunting and scary, and maybe that's partly cos I never used to be a good eatre, ie if I could not eat life would be much easier! LOL. But I don't want Daniel to have my food issues so I guess I better start him on the right track now.

Oh the great news is he's taken 30mls of formula today from the bottle and that was after a b/feed. and about the same in water from another bottle. He actually has the sucking action right every so often too. Yay, I'm so excited. Makes me feel better about leaving DH with Daniel on Friday. I think it will be easier than it was even a week ago. I may even try a bottle first thing tomorrow morning and see what happens. Who knows, he may just take it!

Kate, thanks for the welcome back, it's nice to be chatting to you all again.

Ankie, I totally understand what youo're going thru with the food issue. That was Daniel a week or so ago.

Can't recall who asked about bread. All I've done is get plain white bread and put it in the oven for about 15mins on low heat. I was told today I can add cheese to it so I'll try that next time.

Gotta go, dinner time and DH has arrived home.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: BiancaB on November 09, 2005, 06:19:51 am
Hello everyone :D
Have no time to read back..sadly :cry:  Life is hectic for me lately, with the warm weather and daylight saving time here in Vic -I am working later than usual and you know the usual drill of the busy life of Mum's
Anyway just wanted to pop on and say hi to all.
 I am struggling to add new foods to Si's diet at the moment as she just doesn't seem to chew all that well and I have a huge fear of choking her!
She has both bottom teeth through now(looks so cute) and is doing well on grated fruits(apple pear etc) and her staple diet of oatmeal(mixed grain) and sweet potato(roasted) but I need some inspiration!
Anyone feel keen to let me know what they are feeding please go ahead.
Thanks Bianca
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 09, 2005, 07:32:24 am
Good surgery vibes for Jack, Micky and thanks for the website on curry. Will try and make some this weekend, we can get Pataks here.
LOL Kate re poops. You have the funniest poop stories.
I don't really measure what Sam eats, he gets offered 3-4 ice cubes depending on how I feel and whether he looks hungry or not and he sometimes finishes all the food and wants somemore and sometimes there is a heap left. I just make sure that his milk feeds are not decreased drastically and if so, I cut down on solids.
I am always looking for inspiration for food and have a freezer full of different veges. I then mix and match for the day. I also have chicken and beef.
I have a recipe for banana biscotti that looks really good that I found in a baby recipe book I have. I will post it tomorrow as I am at work at the mo.
Sam has been refusing his catnaps intermittently and we just make it up by putting him to bed earlier. Today, he only had 2x45 minute naps and was awake for 5.5 hours before he went to bed for the night. What can you do if they are happy and playing? Mum tried to put him to bed and he just kept rolling onto his tummy and smiling. I was at work and maybe the excitement of spending the afternoon with grandma got to him!
Nikki,hurray for Danielle sleeping through the night and Hayley, well done Daniel for taking the bottle.
LOL Hannah re dh's exercise plan.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 09, 2005, 10:52:13 am
hi all!
it is 3:45 in the morning....I'm not sleeping well tonight-go figure! :(  :shock:   Anyways, I just fed Jack (about 6 oz) I tried not to wake him but I think I did.  He seemed confused on what the heck I was doing to him in the middle of the night.  I haven't DF since he was about 3 months old.  But he is quiet again right now so hopefully he will sleep until 7 still.  I probably won't be back again until we are home from the hospital.  I am feeling quite anxious and am hoping all goes well...esp. his pain control. :cry:  :cry:   talk to you all soon!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 09, 2005, 11:57:18 am
Lisa-see, now I feel silly.  Of course you were just kidding around :oops:

hayley- I didn't say welcome back!  Glad to hear you had a good time and sounds like Daniel adjusted okay so that's good.  My parents are up north in a 5 star resort (home renovations) and they've invited Cole and I up.  Maybe I should go.  My father isn't well though and I don't want Cole waking him often in the night.  We'll see.

Ankie-big hugs.  There is no rush for food.  I consider myself lucky that Cole eats very well but each baby will progress at their own rate.  DH was upset when I read to him yesterday that babies that are very physically active like Cole often develop speech etc later :? Oh well!

Hannah-sexercise...yep it was on Oprah...I saw it for a bit.  This women had sex twice a day...burns 200 cals a session so she said for us to do the math :D

Bianca-I wonder if it might be easier for everyone to PM you on what they're feeding their los?  That way you don't have to sift through all the posts?  I will PM you as well just in case but right now Cole who started solids kind of late at 6.5 months has had: rice, oatmeal, potato, sweetpotato, broccoli, avocado (mashed with EBM), butternut squash, carrots.  We're starting apple today.  We have yet to introduce dairy, wheat, meat or finger foods.  Will start apple today :D

Richelle-forgot to post to you about sleepwear.  in a 70/21 degree room Cole wears a ss diaper shirt, ls diaper shirt and his 2.5 Grobag.  Maybe your mom could pop in to a used clothing store a pick up some winter items?  No sense getting new stuff if she only needs it a short while.

okay, i gotta run but also just wanted to post my good news.  Cole slept 12 hours last night.  He had one wakeup at 8:15 due to teeth.  Gave him tylenol.  Two feeds at 9:20 at 2 something but went 5:50-5:50!  woo hoo.  no catnap must be the trick right now :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 09, 2005, 17:11:48 pm
Hannah-You are so silly!  How about LLL longer letter later, I definately don't need to say that my posts are always long enough.
Richelle-I am working with Yo baby.  First try lots of funny faces, I think it is the consistancy and temperature.  Ben has had 4 containers now and is more into it.  I bought a heater with a temperature regulator at target for $30, it works wonders, not sure if that is an option for your trip.
Sophie-have you tried warm water for the washing of the face or a silly song while you are wiping.  Ben can see coming in for the cleaning and gets ready to hide!
Roz-I take the valve out of the sippie for drinking.
Are your Los drinking out of the sippie on their own or are you helping them?
Kate-Laughing so much about the pooping story.  The Dh of this house loves to sing at the top of his lungs and wrestle loundly before sleepy time.  THen when I am playing too much with Ben before bedtime I get the lecture about quiet time before sleepy time.
Ankie-Hugs for you.  I think that the moms who don't have their kids on a routine don't know any better.  We were on a date last night and saw tons of kids up at 9:30 in a restaurant.  Just think about how happy and how much good sleep your LO is getting to make a smart brain.  in the end I think it is worth the worry.  I am trying to cut out on my worry by remembering that I can't control everything and realize I am doing my best to keep me happy and everything that I have read about what you are doing sounds like you are doing a FANTASTIC job raising your Lo.
Bec would love it if you posted some recipes.
We'll see how today goes.  Up at 5:15 to take Dh to the airport, down at 8 for nap.  OFf to babysitters at 10.  Then to the airport tomorrow.  i think I am trying to make a recipe for disaster on my mini vacation.
SSS sorry so sloppy!  Wow I am reliving my grade school days :lol:
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 09, 2005, 20:36:11 pm
Traci, don't stress about Cole being really active (I used to also kid around that he had ADHD. EDITED TO ADD: I mean Nathan not Cole.  :wink: ), I drove myself around the bend a bit too with Nathan being active early.  I had also read everywhere that that meant he'd be slower in verbal skills - maybe, but maybe not, being a boy also contributes to that I think...he started really talking at 17mths (ie went from 6 words to 70+ words in 2wks), which is right in the normal range and at 2.5 is totally on par with his friends.  You can start with sign language if you haven't already and it really helps them communicate if they are going to be slow speakers and doesn't hinder the talking process either since you're saying the word while signing.

Well another all nighter from D (and Nathan for that matter  :roll: ) - I even got 7hrs solid sleep - it's been YEARS since that happened (considering only one or the other have slept through and if it's not them waking me it's DH and his sleep talking).  Both were up at 5.15, but heck that's such an improvement.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 09, 2005, 20:47:59 pm
Hi ladies, I have posted recipes on recipe forum on the EAT section.  I have a couple of others but I have to find them :oops: and I will post them.  I did put there that my health nurse said james could eat baked beans, spag bol, potato pie, fish etc.  I tried him on baked beans yesterday and he liked them.  Liked to play wiht them. :D I also made up a tomato based sauce and put it on his mince meat, veges and spagetti and he loved that too. 

Re:  drinking water.  I just hold the cup and James drinks out of it.  He doesn't like to use the "sippy" part. :?

re: toast. I just put a slice of bread in the toaster.  I am going to try turkish bread int he next few days with avocado for him to chomp on.

Hope everyone has a lovely day.

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 09, 2005, 21:30:46 pm
Hi all,

~~~~~~~~~~~good vibes for Jackson~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks everyone for the dressing up in cold weather ideas!  Our house is 78 - 80 degrees so I hope Sophie adjusts OK.  I think I will buy a few things for for her but hopefully a friend of mine can lend me the rest.

Lisa - when you give him the stuff you are talking about do you mash it up or do you blend it.  The spagetti for instance..  I will check out the recipes you posted.  The shops here do not have any baby recipe books, another thing for the shopping list in Canada.

Ankie - big hugs and ditto to we are doing what is best for our lo's and you would have to be made of steel if it didn't get to you.  The harder path is usually the most satisfying in the end.

OMG Kate lol at your post, the poop and the loud DH.

Sophie doesn't mind having her face washed with a wet cotton bud but HATES the wet wipes, I tried the silly song route but have ended up just getting in and getting out as fast as possible!

My DH is the loudest person on the face of the earth and Sophie gets woken up in much the same manner as Ryan!

Must run...time for the catnap (maybe!!! :wink: )  will post a few pic's later of Sophie at the beach to send out some warm vibes for those of you heading in to chilly weather!

hope everyone is having a fab day!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 09, 2005, 22:54:12 pm
Richelle, re: spagetti, i just cut it into smaller pieces and he picked them up and chewed them - J seems to be very good at chewing.  He also has a good gag reflex I haven't had to do any rescue methods yet.  Veges, I now mash and with meat, I have been using mince meat (beef and chicken) and when I heat it up for him, I just try and mash it wiht a fork a bit more.  I have heard of children 12mths and over not wanting anything but pureed food because they weren't introduced to different textures, so I guess I am being over zealous.   :roll:

Hope the recipes help.  If anyone has a recipe for potato or fish pie, that would be great.  We also eat a lot of curries,so i thought I would try James on them next month.  I know someone else asked but can they have coconut milk/cream yet? 

Bye for now

Lisa
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 09, 2005, 22:58:26 pm
Yay - just had to say that Daniel has just taken 70 mls from a bottle! And some from me! I've found unlike ALL other babies I've heard about I don't think he likes it warmer than usual. He seems to like it room temperature. and I can't hold him. He'll sit on the floor or in the bouncinette, and he seems to 'have to help' IYKWIM. Kind of holds the bottle too. So, I think tomorrow should hopefully go okay for DH. Hey, I get to spend the day away from home so I'm very happy. Shopping for pleasure, and supermarket shopping and just hanging at my friends house until we decide it's okay for me to come home. Who knows, it might be after dinner!  :lol: 

Thanks for the recipes ideas. They sound very 'advanced' but I'm going to sit down during Daniel's afternoon nap and nut it out. I think I'll start out on my plan a little more slowly than going straight into fancy recipes, but hope to introdue those in a couple of weeks.

Better go, lunch time for both of us.

Happy days and nights everyone
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 09, 2005, 23:24:11 pm
Thanks Lisa!  I know Sophie is getting bored with the pureed veggies and fruit already and is very into finger foods ect... besides the yogurt she seems keen on whatever I give her, or whatever dh gives her!  He gave her gravy yesterday, very salty gravy at that :roll: but she LOVED it.  I have some noodles cooking right now, whole wheat though..we will see how that goes.  She had some toast tonight and Cheerios for the first time and had a great time, though most ended up on the floor (her favorite game - anyone else going through this?)

Someone had mentioned cheese and also infant cheese?

Do you think commercial tomato sauce is OK?  I imagine it is if Baked Beans are - will try those soon as well. 

Sophie is very slow on the sippy cup, no into it at all and I am not going to spend any more money on them - I suppose she'll go for it when she is ready!

She also only had a 10 minute catnap :shock: by the time she fell asleep it was time for me to wake her up...sigh...

Long enought for now jeesh......
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 09, 2005, 23:38:34 pm
Hi,

I forgot I was going to attach a couple pic's and would LOVE to see some from everyone else!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 10, 2005, 00:00:21 am
you know what all this talk of food makes me a little adventuous with riley. We have decided she needs more, but I think we needed the extra kick up the rear.
So I think tomorrow I will try toast on her and maybe rotate it with cereal if it works well. we have soooo much 6mth food left.
We had a crappy day here, mainly a bit of shack whackiness, combined with Jay's consistent whinging for about a month.UGH!!!! I hate it when they are sick.
I ahve been lurking for the past couple of days, seems all is going well with everyone, but alas I am a little too out of it to remember anyones posts specifically. But I will say Richelle, your sophie is a looker, thanks for the pick me up for the impending winter.
Hannah, We chose the same middle name for our dd's, except Riley's is Maeanne.
Well I must dash, i have a night of box watching ahead of me...haha...maybe a little chat too if I am still resembling conciousness.
Oh, seems richelle started the bragging rights once again, we actually got around to crowning riley our princess.
TTFNMFL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 10, 2005, 00:48:47 am
WOW this has been one of the longest weeks ever!!!  and it's only Wednesday!  I have an extremely cranky baby, MIL is on her way over and our relationship is... well... strained.   plus dh just called and said he'd be over an hour late home tonight . :cry:

Go to your happy place, go to your happy place...

Loved the pics ladies.    Thanks for the smile :)   Well she's here...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 10, 2005, 00:52:50 am
Naomi and Richelle, gorgeous girls you have! Models in the making I say.

Okay, food, I CAN do it. My words to myself. See, instead of doing my plan I'm on here. Daniel didn't like or want his lunch today, carrots by themselves, then I tried adding some kumara, still didn't want it, so I added lambsfry and bacon. Still no.  :cry: Either he had such a huge breakfast, or his big breast & bottle feed filled him up. Or he's bored. So, I have to make an effort to fix this. As he doesn't like anything that's in our house at the moment, I'll have to go and buy something else for dinner tonight.

Right, I'll say TTFN and start my plan.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 10, 2005, 00:53:32 am
OMG Naomi that is adorable!!!!!!

Can you tell I have been on my own since I got home?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 10, 2005, 01:03:14 am
Riley and Sophie are too cute.  The beach looks soo nice and I too needed the pick me up.  Sophie is actually in her crib right now for the ever so elusive cat nap...however, she is not napping, but she's gonna stay in there for a little longer.  I have had a bit of a day here too.  I think shack wackiness---hee hee never heard it called that before---aka cabin fever has got to me too.
OK, just had to check on her she was upside down in the crib (head where feet usually go) with her head under the covers...thought it was a riot when I walked in.  Ha, ha  :evil:
I woke up this morning at 5am to go for a run by myself for once...I guess I am kind of practicing for when I go back to work.  I really don't know how I am going to be able to "do it all".  It was really nice though to be out in the dark peaceful, cold morning...with no running stroller.  Although I love that thing, it weighs a ton!!!
Anyhow, the food talk really motivated me and I tried scrambled egg last night.  She really liked it.  Tried toast today and she loved that too.
Richelle and Ankie, Sophie is really into the finger food too.  She would eat Cheerios until the cows came home if I let her...and it seems like any bread/grain product thrills her (toast, baby mum-mum's).  But no, not eactly a balanced diet..oh yeah avocado and prunes and really that's about it so far for winners.  We'll keep trying.  Reading about all of the other trials and tribs with food is helping.
I was thinking since bread worked I might try some "french toast" bread fingers dipped in egg yolk mixed with ebm then fried?  Anybody tried this yet?  I am going to visit your post Lisa after I am done here to see your ideas.  We are veggies over here, and I'm not sure meat subtitutions (soy) are ok.  I'll have to check with the doc.
OK, so does anyone else's little one screech?  For some reason the screeching thing just drives me up a wall.  It's frustrating because it's not crying, but it seems like something's wrong but what??  Agh, it's so annoying.
Hayley-congrats about Daniel and the bottle.  I hope you have a wonderful outing.
Sippy cups--Sophie is also very slow to take to it.  Some days she'll try and I think we've got it, then the next day she'll have none of it. hmmm.
Dh has worked late the last two nights.  He's on his way home now, thankfully, although I suppose I could have chatted if he stayed late tonight.  Maybe I'll try to catch you ladies for a few minutes.
There's something about the late afternoon A time...from the last nap till bed (with no cat nap)..that I just dread. It's my own fault though, should've gotten out with her for a bit.
Oh there's so much more but really this is long enough...I always chuckle when you ladies write that your posts are long because I mena really, mine are loooong.  I really hope it's not annoying.  My dad always used to say, of himself that he was vaccinated at birth with a phonograph needle...I guess I take after him.
Take care.
hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 10, 2005, 01:05:49 am
love love love the pics girls!  so adorable.  and Richelle...sooo very jealous of the beach.

well, three short naps here today.  just hope he sleeps 12 hours again.

I wanted to ask...what is/are the thing(s) that make your little one laugh?  In the last couple of days Cole loves when I:

1) tickle his belly/chest when he's undressed for bath, laying on our bed
2) hide/crouch under the exersaucer then pop up playing peek-a-boo.  I also tickle his feet while I'm hiding.  he's laughs like crazy :P
3) I lick/suck on his fingers.  he gets the biggest kick out of this.  not the most sanitary I know...but it's so fun to see him giggle.

okay, gotta go do something productive.  DH is at work until 10 tonight and tomorrow.  I'll be chatting...hope to see a few of you there.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 10, 2005, 01:09:07 am
OK, have to say this is too funny, I think I just posted at the same time as Richelle, Roz, Traci and Hayley...
Roz, your day sounds like mine.
Traci, good topic...I'll write more on that one later...I think I've taken up my alloted space for today :)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 10, 2005, 03:48:41 am
Thanks for the food ideas Bec.
Hayley, I keep meaning to tell you...not so much for your lo but for you and dh I found this site called savingdinner.com (on the flylady site...but that's a whole other story right Traci?!)  Anyhow, it's pretty cool because it has menus and shopping lists for 6 dinners. You can subscribe and get a new one each week...or just try the sample.
 It just makes cooking easier for me and dh when we don't have to do all the menu planning etc...just an idea to possibly help deal with food issues.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 10, 2005, 03:56:09 am
Thanks for the food ideas. Here is one for banana biscotti from my baby book for 6 months plus...
Am off to look at the recipes posted by Lisa
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 10, 2005, 05:47:22 am
I also had a lot of vege puree's left in the freezer.  I have frozen cooked rice and I add that to change the texture. 

One things that makes James laugh is after his bath atnight, we let James have a play in his room with no clothes on.  He crawls around laughing for as long as let him.  I think it is his favourite time of the day - full belly (after dinner) and feeling clean. :D

I am glad everyone is enjoying my recipes.  I hope your lo's enjoy them too.  I have to admit, I hadn't thought of macaroni cheese, but may give that a go next week. 

Just a quick medical question:  does anyone elses lo's belly button pop in and out :?  I asked a health nurse yesterday and she said it was a hernia  but not to worry unless it doesn';t change ie keeps going in and out or gets bigger.  It doesn't seem to worry him - just curious :)

we are in a afternoon A time - I am wondering if James is now able to stay up for 3hrs.  He was at 2.5hrs  but lately has been fighting going down after this.  He is usually awake in the afternoon for about 3-4hrs.  will not catnap :x How long is everyone else awake for?

Is there an oz/nz chat tonight?

Lisa
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 10, 2005, 06:06:37 am
Yes Lisa I will be in the chat room tonight

See you there!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 10, 2005, 06:29:02 am
Hi ladies!  Our afternoon awake time ranges from 3-41/2 hours.  A lot of the times there is a long walk mixed in.
I feel way behind with the solids, you guys are really whipping it up in the kitchen.
Favorite giggle games-holding Lo then saying "ahhh" quickly and letting him fall a little in my arms.
lots of peek a boo
picking flowers (no giggles but very interested)
acting like a lion while getting close and then giving lots of kisses.
I am exhausted after the early wake up.  Hope to check in with you while I am out of town.
Good naps for everyone and more sleeping through the night to you all.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 10, 2005, 07:19:54 am
Hi Guys!  Not a lot of time the last couple of days because we are in fast progress with the baby clothing business!!!  I am so excited we met with the screen printer today and could have samples as soon as next week!  We are hoping to have the website up and running by December in time for Christmas shopping.

SO a couple of things: I feel like a loser for not getting T to try different things yet.  She LOVES to eat but I am still sticking with the pureed veggies (yellow veggies only), mild fruits and cereals.  I see you all are being way more adventurous than me and it makes me think I need to give it a go.  I am hesitant though because mangoes and peas have seemed to upseet her tummy, so don't know how she'll take scrambled eggs!?!?!

Anyhoo, Ankie, something you said struck a chord with me...you are right, many times I often feel like if I didn't have her on a routine, I wouldn't feel so down when she was off of it.  But just remember we all haev our off days and so do they...and her off days always get to me more than they should...but we are human and just know what is best for them!  And yes the other moms that seem just happy go lucky with no routine are exhausted.  I know quite a few of them who wish their lo's could sleep on their own.  HUGS!

Riley and Sophie look adorable BTW!!!  :)

Hayley, good luck with the solids in your house.

Micky-GOOD VIBES for your little man.  I'm sure it will be harder for you than him, and if not, nothgin a little Motrin won't fix for him!  HUGS  :wink:

Today I took a catnap with Taylor and it was marvelous!  I can't tell you how long it has been since we napped together.  It was all cold and rainy today so we snuggled in my bed and watched Baby Einstein together and then we fell asleep.  One of those picture perfect moments you don't get very often!

I had fun chatting with you all tonight eventhough it was short.  Sunday was super fun too!

Andrea
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 10, 2005, 07:55:25 am
Oooh Andrea, your snuggle in bed sounds delicious.  Your biz sounds like fun! 

I think I'm also one of the boring ones with food - mind you, it's taken me ages to get D to eat food, so we're still only doing mild veges and fruit plus rice cereal (but probably about a dozen things in total).  I think I will do egg yolk tomorrow though since I did some baking for my coffee morning tomorrow (I never usually bake  :oops: but am so Nathan can eat it and we also have a dairy allergic child in our group) tonight and only used the whites - I was too scared with Nathan until he was closer to 12mths, what about the bits of white still stuck to the yolk, is it anything to worry about, or is it assumed such a small amount won't cause a problem?  Think I'll post on the main board too and see what response I get.

Right, giggles from D.....

Nathan gets the best ones - he plays peek-a-boo with her while she's in the jolly jumper and he's behind the couch, he does a fake laugh that she thinks is pretty hilarious, oh and she loves it when I sing "round and round the garden like a teddy bear...." and tickle her under the arm, she starts to laugh before I even finish the song. :D

Night night.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 10, 2005, 12:08:48 pm
Hi All,

Mised the chat - DH gave me a massage and tucked me in to bed :shock: !  I am really stressed out, he didn;t realize until I gave him my list of 'things' to do and things on my mind in the next 3 weeks.  It was very sweet and I feel a bit better today.

Am I going to try some fun stuff to eat with Sophie before I go to work today.  I hope she likes it....

Things that make Sophie crack up

'eating' her cheeks while going yumyumyum

the palms of her hands are soooo ticklish :?  She is super ticklish everywhere

throwing her in the air will making a variety of strange noises (DH)

holding her upside down and rubbing foreheads :shock:  :?

she loves dancing with me, like really boogying!

Jeez i just realized why Sophie probably pukes all the time lol!

I can't believe how mobile Sophie is without actually crawling, anyone else going through this?  She rolls and shimmies and pulls herself along the tile by her arms.

Have a lovely day everyone........
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 10, 2005, 13:32:17 pm
richelle, I am glad you had a chance to relax last night.
It is amazing how riley can move without crawling. Last night she stirred, I went into her and she was asleep on all fours as if she was going to crawl..WTF. I got her up thinking she was hungry, but she passed right out on my shoulder.
Sha has been awesome at nights too. tues. night she went from 10:30pm to 8:30am and last night, I fed her at 5:45pm, pd at 7pm and the next I heard from her was for a feed at 4:45am.....I think I might be getting spoiled after them both being sick on and off for a month.
It is so amazing that Riley will be 8mths on nov. 26th....
We are contemplating potty training Jayson, but I am petrified, I guess I look at it as my little boy growing up :cry: .
Well i will have to come back later, Riley is getting a little mad on her mat, she wants to move around.

TTFNMFL :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 10, 2005, 14:28:26 pm
one thing i forgot to mention...Cole loves watching/looking at the avatars when he's on my lap.  giggles at Ryan like crazy!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 10, 2005, 15:08:24 pm
Hi, girls!  Traci, I'm glad Ryan can provide a few giggles.  I can't get him near the computer or he starts banging on the keyboard and yanking it off the desktop.  Maybe he'll be some sort of computer programmer some day? 

Things that make Ryan laugh:
*  Grabbing at his hand through the shower curtain from inside the running shower (dh does this every morning while I hold him in my lap...it's pretty funny) and also popping your head out of the shower to play peek-a-boo.
*  Laying on the bed with him while dh jumps over us and pretends he's going to land on us
*  Wrestling and Rolling around with him
*  Holding him upside down (by his hips, not his legs)
*  Silly faces and voices and Mom's dorky dances

Wow!  I guess we're a bit physical with him.  Doesn't seem to mind, though.  Aren't their belly laughs so fun?  This growing up stuff is going too fast, but each new stage is such a delight.

Rough morning over here...cranky from the get-go.  He heard me get up for aerobics and cranked at 5:50.  So, I gave him a quick feed and back to bed until 7 or so. Not sure if that threw him off or if it's teething...oh, wait, I said I refused to speculate on the teething thing anymore.  When they come, they come.  Enough, already!

Richelle, I am sooo jealous of your relaxing night.  You're just going to Canada for a visit, right?  You had mentioned moving off island after the hurricanes and wasn't sure if that was what you were doing in the next 3 weeks or "just" preparing for a trip.  (As much work as moving, IMHO). 

Okay, must go clean the bathroom...was going to do it all day yesterday, but to no avail.  I will get it done.  I will get it done.  Buh-bye!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 10, 2005, 15:41:15 pm
Kate - I know what you mean about the belly laughs - it kills me, then we perpetuate the laughing cycle, so much fun!

Sophie and I are going to Canada for a visit on the 30th of November and moving house here at the same time, so packing the house and packing for a trip to the great white.  Also I am having a really tough go of it at work, trying to wrap up and delegate and theyare dissappointed I am leaving so are really not helping too much to make it a smooth transition.

Sophie had some grated apple in her cereal this am and a piece of toast with cheese melted on it and LOVED it!  I made her some noodles with chicken, tomato sauce and cheese for lunch - we will see how it goes.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 10, 2005, 16:02:33 pm
Hi everyone--
Andrea, you remind me of someone who just can't sit still - you quit your job and already have something else lined up!  Nice work!  Oh and I just LOVE snuggly naps too. 

As for food - count us among the less adventurous crowd - Katie has a bunch of different fruits and veggies and I just started giving her rice and chicken, but I think that's it.  I gave her a piece of bread when we were having dinner the other night, but she just played with it.  Likewise on the Cheerios I gave her the other morning.  I've got to buy some fresh bananas for her and see how those go.  She loves the kind in the jar.  I may be inspired from everyone else's recipes though - keep them coming please!

Let's see - laughs - she loves watching us jump up and down, she's SUPER ticklish. she laughs at pretty much anything the cat does, she also loves that hide behind something and jump out trick, she loves when I put a blanket over her head and she gets to pull it off, making faces (me, not her)....oh, and she loves when I blow very softly in her face and blow her hair around. 

Richelle - loved the beach pictures....nice to see it's nice out somewhere in the world. 

Naomi - your princess is adorable. 

That's about it - music class starts soon and she's still asleep.  I always try and figure out how long I can get her to sleep and still have time to throw her in her clothes and dash out the door (I keep her in her PJs until after her first nap usually - unless they're dirty.)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 10, 2005, 16:04:41 pm
Oh and all of a sudden, we've got SIX teeth here  :shock:  -- three in the past week.  And I wonder why she hasn't been sleeping well (though she did for about the past week when the darn things actually came though - I guess it's getting to the surface that bothers her.  :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 10, 2005, 17:40:51 pm
Kate-I'm with you, no more speculating on the teething.  It's taking forever and I just don't know anymore.

Micky-hope to hear soon how things went with Jackson.  Big hugs to all of you.

Andrea-I too am so very boring with food.  Only cereal, vegs, and fruit so far.  I can barely get dinner on the table for DH and I, let alone plan a real meal for Cole :? 

Hannah-I think it was you that mentioned savingdinner.com from flylady website.  Did you subscribe?  If so, do you like it?  I need to start planning.  My biggest thing is the darn protein.  Always frozen when I want to make something.  I need to learn to cook soups and use the crock pot.  used it once for roast beef and didn't like how it turned out.  Also need to cook big items (lasagna, sheppard's pie) and freeze for later in the week.  I just don't know where I'm supposed to get the time.  Maybe, just maybe I should NOT be on here so much but that is just a CRAZY thought :wink:

Ankie-hope things are going okay out your way.  sleeps any better?

As for awake times...someone asked. I am baffled.  Totally baffled.  I wanted to start putting Cole down by the clock at 8:30 and 12:30 but when he wakes at 5 am that's a long stretch. Today I put him down at 8:00 and guess what-45 min!  Held him for 30 more minutes because I knew he was pooped.  Maybe should have done pupd but it doesn't seem to work to put him back to sleep.  So, after getting up at 9:15 I kept him up until 12:15.  I'm really hoping for 1.25-1.5 hour nap.  he had a catnap yesterday and woke early again even though his total day sleep was only 2.25 hours.  So i'm at a loss.  Going to keep experimenting and hope we can drop the catnap for good and I can get some sleep.

There are a lot more things that Cole laughs at now that everyone mentions it.  Holding him upside down by the hips, throwing him up in the air a bit etc.  So we're physical with him too. It's fun :D

Do all of you let your los crawl around naked?  I guess I'm afraid of the big poop (Nikkii-was that you with the once a week Poo during naked time?) or even just pee on the carpet.  Guess I'll have to get over it and just steam clean as necessary.

okay, as I complained about my lack of time, i should get off here. Going to make banana chocolate chip bread.  The only thing I bake.

Oh ya-Nikki-good on you for the baking:)  I'm sure the other mom will appreciate it too.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 10, 2005, 20:32:26 pm
Goodmorning, I'm now caught up again on the reading less than a day away from you girls.

Sorry I missed the Kiwi-Aussie chat, when exactly is it? I'll put it in my outlook calendar with a pop up reminder. LOL.

Hannah - thanks for the recipe website. I'll have a look later. I'm lucky as DH does most of the night cooking, but it still may have some great ideas for us, especially as I think I'll have to start cooking more once I stop feeding Daniel.

Traci - I checked out the flylady site, but it was too much for me. IE too many emails. I also discovered I'm pretty organised and tidy. MOst of the things she said to do, I do anyway. Our house is too small not to be tidy. Ahh the joys of cheap airforce accommodation. Also, I guess I'm a tidy person anyway, on the outside. DH laughs at me cos if it's in a cupboard or behind the couch and can't be seen, I don't mind if it's a bit of a mess. He used to always call me Monica (from Friends).

Andrea - your clothing business sounds exciting. Are you making the clothes youself? Make sure you give us your website address, and do you post overseas??

Well girls, today is B day in our house. BOTTLE DAY. DH got up at 5.30am to feed Daniel. He wasn't too impressed (Daniel that is). Eventually took 40mls, but not properly drinking. And then had cereal with about 20mls, so that at least helped. Last night before his last feed he took the bottle from me and drank properly, in my arms and sucked. So I know he can do it, it's just a matter of when. And during the day he took a total of 70mls while sitting on the floor and me holding the bottle up. He's now been asleep for 2 hours, so I guess he wasn't starved when he went down. Already my b@@bs are sore. Infact, I think my hands feel a bit tingly. Oh no, this is going to be uncomfortable. I'll take some pain killers and get some "milk stop" from the health shop today, and I guess I"ll just bear with it. Any helpful drying up tips welcome!!!!

Oh, Daniel's just woken up, so I'll have to make myself scarce.

Bye girls. See you tonight.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 10, 2005, 21:11:48 pm
hi girls!!

we are back home....what a long day yesterday was!! :shock:  :(   Poor Jackson.  When he first got back to the ward from the OR he was still pretty groggy but he got kindof an epidural so he wasn't feeling any pain.  We got put in a room which was a step-down unit from the intensive care unit-not because Jack was super sick but because there weren't anyother beds available.  The room had two other really sick babies in it also.  Jack was STARVING by the time he got back from the OR (about 2pm) and I last fed him at 3:30am.  But the nurses wanted me to go slow with feeding him so he was not happy when the bottle was done. :(   But at least the RN let me feed him more only a 1/2 hour later.  Then the doc's started him on codiene and tylenol and motrin (ibuprofen).  My poor little peanut was totally zonked!! :shock:  :(   But at least he fell asleep and wasn't in any pain.....until it wore off at midnight. :cry:   He screamed and screamed for almost an hour until the codiene kicked in again.  Needless to say he woke the other two babes-it ended up being a vicious circle for a couple of hours.   Oh, yeah also the other parents!!! :shock:  :twisted:  :evil:   I was so annoyed!!  Jackson fell asleep probably about 8pmish and so I decided to go to bed also around 9pmish--well the parents right next to me talked in full voices until 11pm!!!!!! :twisted:  :twisted:   Then finally the nurses turned off the overhead lights! :shock:  :twisted:  AT 11 PM!!!!!  I'm surprised any of the babes were sleeping!  Jackson is doing well though.  His feet look sore.  :(   He'll get his proper casts put on in a week once all of the swelling has gone down.  He's been so tired and such a good baby that as soon as I put him in his crib at the hospital and gave him his lovey he would roll on his side and lie quietly until he fell asleep....even with all the noise and bright lights going on around him--where as before all this jazz started he needed to be in his little dark cave with no noise to sleep.  So maybe the sleep training has actually helped him some! :D   So needless to say his sleeping is all out of whack but he seems to need it right now.  My poor little peanut. :(   I can't wait to go to bed tonight too! :shock:

DH was so cute when he dropped us off at the hospital he almost started crying  :roll:  :)   He kept himself busy though while we were gone....he completely sanded and stained all of our kitchen cupboards! :D  :shock:     

Anyways, I'm glad to be home!

Hayley-about drying up- when I stopped BF I reduced the # of times and the length of time that I let Jack feed so that I was slowly weaning him on increased # of formula feeds.  Once he was on total formula feeds then I just would pump like once a day for at first 15 min then down to 10, then 5, then 2mins. then I was done.  It probably took me a good week to week and a half to stop totally. HTH.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 10, 2005, 22:55:23 pm
I am so glad Jackson is doing well.   :D I cannot even image what it must be like to watch your lo lying in a hospital bed.  HUGS to you.   :)

Keep us posted on his recovery. 

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 10, 2005, 23:16:56 pm
Micky -Glad to hear Jackson is doing Ok  :) Poor DH how cute :(

Andrea - Just a note on what you mentioned about dozing off before a nap time (weissbluth). This morning on our walk I was leading my friend (she is blind) so Mum was pushing the pram and I noticed that DD had dozed off. So she had a little nap for about 10mins. When it came time for this mornings nap it was really difficult to get her down. So that bit of info has come in really handy - I will make sure to keep her awake during the walk.

Well I've gotta go out to my cousins farm to help with the horses dental checks - have a good day everyone....
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 11, 2005, 00:31:09 am
Micky, glad to hear that Jackson's doing well.

Lisa, thanks for that about eggs, I think I'll wait a little while yet, we do have a heap of other food to work through, so will try it in a month or two.

Re power nap before naptime, I used to have big problems with Nathan having a 10min nap on the way home and he'd never resettle for a proper nap, so I tried to always make sure we were home in time otherwise he'd keep going for another 2hrs! :shock:

Traci, yes it was me that had D do her big once a week poop all over the carpet LOL.  Now that she's on solids she goes once a day.

Well my gluten-free/dairy-free brownies were a hit and everyone scoffed them up - But I forgot to save poor DH a piece.  :(
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 11, 2005, 01:25:36 am
Soooooooooooo glad to hear about Jackson!!! :)  Keep us posted!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 11, 2005, 02:02:32 am
Hi Ladies....

Thanks Micky, Erin, Nikki, Traci, Kate, Hannah for all your support and posts on Brady's sleep pattersn.  We haven't been so lucky the last couple of days, things have gone back to chaotic...no sleep :roll: yet again.

I'm sorry I missed the chat, my mom came for a visit actually and spent yesterday, last night and today with Brady and I. It was fun, but left little time for me to get online.  Did some Christmas shopping though.... :wink:
She went home this evening.

Micky - glad to hear that Jackson's doing well!!

ttfn
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 11, 2005, 02:13:18 am
:D  :D  :D   So glad about Jackson!!!   :D  :D  :D That's really surprising that the other parents were so rude.  You'd think they'd be more understanding since they are going through the same type of thing. 

Hayley, hope Bottle Day went well! 

MUST DROP CATNAP!!!  Every time he has one, Ryan is a bear to put down at bedtime.  But, without one, he is a bear to deal with.  Catch 22, alright!  I'm going to try to push back his other two naps so that the time between the 2nd nap and bedtime isn't so long.

Went to the park with 2 girls from my prenatal group.  Ryan went for his first ride on the swings and even managed to commando crawl through a long tunnel!  The other boys were 9 and 10 months old, so Ryan had to make himself look good!   :lol:

 :?:   I have now hard-boiled a few eggs. Tried to give Ryan the yolk with some ebm.  No go in a BIG way!  Added some carrots, which he loves.  No go again!  Any ideas?  TIA!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 11, 2005, 02:23:41 am
Hooray for Jackson!!!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 11, 2005, 02:26:58 am
Kate,
Try the "scrambled" way for egg yolk...mix with ebm then microwave for 10-20 secs.  If you put it in th fridge for a little bit it comes out firm enough for them to pick up and self-feed.  Maybe that will work?? Different texture than hard boiled.

Good for Ryan at the park!!!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 11, 2005, 02:28:26 am
Hannah

How much EBM??

Ta!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 11, 2005, 02:30:50 am
I don't really know,maybe about 1oz?  About 30ml??  Just to make it a little creamy.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 11, 2005, 04:34:24 am
SOOO glad to hear from you Micky, habe been thinking about you and Jackson.  It is great that he is at home but I know how hard it must be to see him in pain, poor little lamb.  ~~~~~healing vibes~~~~~

I think I will try the egg with all this talk.  Our chicken, tomatoe and noodles were a hit at lunch, absolutely loved it, I couldn't shovel it in fast enough.  Unfortunately i couldn;t tell that Sophie had developed hives on her face underneath the food stuck to her face! :oops:  :oops:   It must be the tomato sauce.  I got really worried and phoned the ped. but she said not to worry unless I noticed any change in her demeanor within the 1/2 hour and that it was probably a minor reaction to the acid and in the sauce.  She was fine and the hives were gone 5 minutes after i washed her face but I questioned my adventurous food spirit!

I have some melon as well but I heard in america they say not to do melon, has anyone heard this?

Kate - if Sophie is not very physically active in the afternoon or doesn;t go outside I have soooo much trouble with the catnap, well that is my theory anyway.

Holly - was wondering where you were.  Sorry about the bad days but they say 1 step forward 2 steps back.  Brady will get there, in the mean time get on here and vent!

I must get to bed TTFN
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 11, 2005, 05:33:04 am
HI Guys,

Not a long post, as DH and I have opened a bottle of wine and are unwinding ourselves after a very long week  :D

Micky-SO GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT JACK AND YOU!!!! :D   what a trooper your little man is.  I didn't realize it was an inpatient surgery.  It was hard enough when taylor had her outpatient surgery to deal with, so couldn't imagine having to stay in a hospital with her.  You are a terrific mommy!

Hayley-we are starting on the web and we will absolutely ship anywhere in the world! thanks for asking.

Holly-Tracy says a few tiems in her book that regressions are totally normal, esp. for boys.  So don't give up and keep doing what you're doing and he'll get it for good.  We're all here for you for support!

Glad to hear I am not the only one being kinda boring with the food.  I bought some Earths Best turkey dinner mix and want to try it...but since you are supposed to try all new foods in the morning, should I really try a turkey dinner in the morning?  Just seems so odd. :?:  :?:

BTW, today I went to my OBGYN for my check up and talking to her about babies and seeing pregnant women made me nostalgic and actually want to get pregnant soon.  AM I CRAZY OR WHAT!!!   :lol:  :lol:

Becca, hopefully the Weissulbuth tip will work for you next time.  I have been not letting her have any "power naps" before nap time for the last week, and no 45minute naps!!!  Maybe a coincidence, but I'll take it! :)

Good night all
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 11, 2005, 08:32:32 am
Hello everyone, before I tell you about our great day I just want to say, hang in there Holly, things will get better again. And Micky, glad to hear all is well, I couldn't imagine how you must have felt, and how relieved you must be feeling now. My thoughts are with you.

Now, I have to tell you all how wonderful my Little Bear and DH are. The day started as I mentioned earlier, and ended with DH putting Daniel to bed after nearly 200mls of bottle, and no tears! Actually it was 80mls and he fell asleep, so DH put him into bed. But I told him that wasn't enough and he'd be sure to wake, so get him up and feed him some more. I think DH thought I was crazy, after all, he was asleep, but he did as I suggested and Daniel drank about 110mls more! yay! The other 2 feeds weren't quite as successful earlier in the day, but he still managed to take fairly close to what he probably was from me.

Oh and I'd bought some tinned food which we hadn't given him before, it was quite lumpy, Daniel spat it out! So we're going to puree it up tomorrow so as not to waste it. But on another successful note, I made some cheese and bread sticks and he ate 2 of them, not just sucked but ate them. Infact DH let him use one as a spoon to feed him with and he loved it! I may be onto something here. I think it must have been the cheese that helped, so I'll try adding cheese to some other things.

My chest feels like it's got 2 big bricks on it. I'm so solid and achy, even as far up as my neck. I've taken some pain killers and got the milk stop stuff, so hopefully they'll do the trick. We've got DH's grandparents 60th wedding anniversary on Sunday, so I really hope I'm feeling better by then. I may have to express off a little if necessary.

Well, gotta go, very tired and too sore to type.

Oh, did want to mention about what makes Daniel laugh, among the main things like tickling and blowing raspberries, we do pretend sneezes and it sends him into fits of laughter. Ah Ah Ah Choooooooo.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Night night.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 11, 2005, 14:09:39 pm
Micky-Welcome home!  Sounds like Jackson did really well :D   That is so great about DH doing the cabinets.  He probably needed to occupy himself to stop from worrying.

I'm sitting here trying to think of everything I wanted to say but I'm just zonked.  A couple of extra wake ups last night but he slept 5:45-5:45.  I think that's the solution to my 5am wakeup...he must be down no later than 6.  I know I've said this before but I guess I keep trying to stretch him later...it just doesn't work.

Also, I think I've been trying to force getting rid of the catnap each day.  Even on days when he woke early I'd try to keep him up until 8:30 to maintain his "no catnap" schedule.  I think as a result he was too overtired to make it through the 45 min. mark.  We'll see.  Put him down after 2.5 hours of A time...and he's just going through 45 now....

We had a bit of an ouchie today.  He was standing holding on to the banister next to the single step from our LR to DR.  I was sitting on the step and it happened so fast I couldn't stop it...he fell and hit his forehead (right near his eye) on the corner of the step :shock:   Thank goodness it's carpeted!  He cried hard for only 30 seconds.  I took him out of the area...stayed positive instead of worried/freaked as I was...and put an ice pack on it right away.  He didn't like it so I just brought him to the window to look outside and sang to him. He's fine :?   These babies really are tough.

I am really excited about Christmas cards this year.  My friend sent me a link for shutterfly.com and I'm going to make cards with Cole's pic.  I never sent announcements and so wish I'd known of this site then.  Of course, I didn't have my PC until july so it wouldn't have mattered anyway.  We're also doing stamps with his pic. I think I'm going to take his pic in just his diaper with a little santa hat on, we'll see.  I totally forgot I have to go shopping for a Christmas outfit.  DHs work is having a kids party next weekend and they'll have holiday photos :D   I know it's silly because he won't understand..but we do and i'm so excited.  I'm just so happy he learned to sit up properly so we can take good pics!

woo hoo...he made it through the 45 mark.  I guess I'll just take it one day at a time.

Nancy-are you lurking?  Haven't seen you for a bit...hope you are well.

One more thing. I got a Flylady reminder today to do a breast exam. She does it every month on the date of her birthday.  What a great idea!  Do you girls do this?  I am ashamed to say I don't.  Here is a link she provided for technique.
http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/vicc/showcontent.php?id=174&noRandImg=true
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 11, 2005, 14:45:40 pm
Good Morning Girls

Thanks Richelle, Andrea and Hayley for your never ending support, I hope you're right and it will get better soon. We had a rough nite last nite too :(

Kate: sorry sweetie, I don't know what to say about the egg thing, I haven't even begun to go there with Brady yet, but the scrambled egg suggestion sounds like it may work, let me know how it ends up so I have a heads up when I get there with Brady.... :wink:

Richelle:
so glad to hear Sophie is well and ok after her little hive incident...it can be scary I know, but glad all is well now :)

Andrea:  as for the turkey dinner for breakfast, I know what you mean, I felt the same way with Brady, it just didn't seem right for Breakie...lol
I asked our PED and she said it was fine to do it as a lunch food, still enough time before bed etc to rule out allergic reaction, and then it doesn't seem wrong as a breakfast item. So maybe try it for lunch instead.

Hayley:  Yah!!!! :!:  for Daniel taking 200ml of his bottle   great work!

Traci: so sorry to hear about Cole's fall, but glad he is alright, what a scare that must have been. Sounds like you handled it really well, better than I would have.... :oops:

Well, last night Brady went down at 7:15pm, and woke up at 10:30pm and I BF him for his DF, then he went back down but was awake again at 12:30am, 1:30am, and was crying lots until 3:00am, back up again at 5:30 am and then for good again at 6:30am..... :(  I do hope this gets better soon.  I was so happy when we had the really good nap day, but it only lasted that one time.....I need some sleep :cry:   I'm trying to take it one nap at a time...so I hanging in there....

Well, off for now...Have a good weekend girls....give all your babes a big squeeze :!:

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 11, 2005, 15:17:25 pm
For Inspiration! I just love this and wanted to share and brighten your day!


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 11, 2005, 16:19:57 pm
hi guys!

Jackson is doing really well....the codiene makes him so tired though.  He slept from 715pm-820am this am.  He woke once at 330am for pain meds.  He was so hungry this am!!!!! I could not get the food in fast enough---he started crying! :(  :shock: And now it is 910am and he is already back to bed.  So sleepy.....  also, he hasn't pooped for a couple days-which the codiene isn't helping either!!! :roll:   AAHHH-never ending battle :)


Hayley-I think you should be expressing off some of your milk so that your glands don't get plugged and you don't develop mastitis.  I hope you are feeling better soon.....but I'm worried about your poor boobies! :D  :lol:  :shock:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 11, 2005, 16:51:11 pm
Micky - I'm happy to hear Jackson is doing better. He's been in my thoughts....big hugs to you both

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 11, 2005, 17:23:13 pm
Micky, I am so happy to hear that Jackson is doing well.  I am sending you and him and dh lots of hugs and healing snuggles.  Wht a brave little man you have.

Holly, hang in there.  Sorry it got difficult again.  These lo's always want to change the rules of the game don't they?!

Andrea I can't wait to shop your online store...I am a shameless online shopper.  Living in Olympia, we don't have a whole lot of shopping selection, so I go to the web...the catch 22 is while I'm not working, I have tons of time to shop online but not so much cash  :?

Hayley, I am totally a Monica too.  Do not look in my closets/cupboards/drawers!!!  But my house is very tidy, the behind doors areas could use a little work and I have to admit I am not always so clean as I am tidy. 

Traci-these babes are tough.  Yesterday Sophie was doing her usual backwards scooting around the living room while watching baby einstein and she was scooting under the legs of a chair.  She whacked her head on the chair leg...I thought we would have major tears, but no...she was too busy watching the video!!!!  She absolutely loves the zebra pupets on Baby Monet (and the babies too).  Don't know if this obsession with the vids should make me happy? But at least it was a good distraction from the pain  :lol:

Nikki glad your dessert/snack went over well.  You seem to be doing so well making the adjustment to a gf household!  Good for you.

So yesterday we had a dry run of a "work morning" I went in fro a 8:30am meeting and dh had to work at his usual time.  I dropped Sophie off at MIL's.  It actually went pretty smoothly, but I had to get up very early...5:30am.  And of course, that did not include a run. Hmmm...it did give me time to pump though, and I won't be doing that when I go back, so...I don't know we'll see.  I guess even though the lo's are somewhat sleeping through the night doesn't mean we get a whole lot of sleep anyway huh?  Just seems like there's always so much to do.  I guess I'll sleep after retirement  :D
Take care girls.  As usual, already looking forward to chatting on Sunday.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 11, 2005, 18:40:31 pm
Holly, been thinking about you..hang in there.
Micky, pleased that Jack is feeling better,poor little guy!
Hayley, I dropped one feed at a time and even expressed when I felt too full, you poor thing but be careful to take it slow or you might get mastitis which I gather is sheer agony!
Nikki, what did Lisa say about egg yolks? I am nervous about starting that here.
Judy, hope all is going well.
Hannah, too scary about the jives. Glad she is fine.
I also try new foods at lunchtime, I can't seem to get my head around turkey, beef etc for breakfast.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 11, 2005, 23:51:46 pm
it's 7pm EST and a few of us are chatting (Tonya, Gareth...)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 12, 2005, 02:25:49 am
Hey I actually saw your post about chat Traci and popped in but no one was there (9pm est)

Well I'm gonna admit - I've been about to post here a time or two and then stopped myself.  Things are really looking up here and I was worried about jinxing things (if things turn soure tomorrow I'm definitely staying away forever ;))

So I decided this week that at 6.5months there was no reason Kaia and Hannah were still waking so many times at night.  I was barely getting 4hours of BROKEN sleep at night and I am just plain burnt right out from it.  So I picked up the latest BW book and thought gosh if I don't fix these wakings I'll be getting up still at a year and the problems will be that much more difficult to fix.  No reason in my mind that these girls need to eat through the night.  They won't take solids really.  They'll eat like champs one day and then nothing for many days.  For example, last day they ate solids really well was Monday I think (maybe it was Tuesday) and barely a bite or two since then.  They're honestly just addicted to the boob.  SO.  Pu/pd *by the book* starting Tuesday at bedtime.  Went really well and they settled within half hour.  Then at 11.10pm we had our typical wake up (Hannah at least always wakes at this time) from both of them.  It took me right till midnight picking up one, putting her down, picking up the next one, putting her down over and over.  Woke both Zoe and Sarah who then huddled in our bed with dh until I was done then went back to their own beds.  But then I was woken at 6am (SIX!!) by...............  thunder!  Mother nature woke me up NOT my children!!  Hannah woke at 6.10am to feed and went straight back to bed until both her and Kaia woke at 8.30am!!!  They'd fed at 6.30pm the night before!!  Kaia's first feed was 8.30am!!  WOW!

Wed night Hannah woke at 11pm and one pu/pd was all she needed.  Kaia was up at 2am.  PU/pd wasn't working but she was really stuffy.  Got her up to put drops in her nose and realized her diaper was poopy.  So after a diaper change and drops and suctioning her nose she was so ticked off and awake that it did take an hour to get her back to sleep.  But no feeding.  They woke around 6am and again, back to sleep till 8am.

Last night I don't think anyone woke at the 11pm time slot (isn't that silly I can't remember!!) but they both woke at 3am and I thought I was screwed for sure but I went in determined not to give in.  Well I did pu/pd, went to the bathroom, got a glass of water, tucked in Z&S and was back in bed by 3.15am!! :)  then none of the children woke before I heard Hannah happily chatting at 7.30am!!!!!!  :)

Hannah has gone down for naps so easily all day today.  She usually cried through 3-5 min of patting but today it was either ONE pu/pd or nothing and she went to sleep.

Can you say THRILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm sure it won't be but a few more days and they'll hopefully stop waking at night all together!  OH yeah - that's right the first night one of them woke at 4am -but only to coo happily for a few minutes - I never had to get out of bed.

Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Sorry I haven't read any of today's posts.  Don't mean to ignore everyone - going to go do that now!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 12, 2005, 02:34:48 am
Judy!!!!  Hooray for you!  That was probably a hard decision to make, but obviously the right one for you and the girls.  (Have you seen the guess who's pg thread from yesterday?  Your name was mentioned a few times and I just about spit out my diet root beer!)
Ryan did a great job for our friend who sat with him while I went to a happy hour for dh's work.  (Do you all think I am such a party girl or what?  Only got a soda as I came home to nurse and put him to bed.  I never seem to drink when I go for a drink.   :? ).  She was like, "He's the best baby I've ever sat for,  :D  but, man, am I exhausted!"  (She was only here for 2 hours).  She couldn't believe how much a kid who "can't crawl" can get around and move from one side of the room to the other and get into things and get bored and move on from things.   :lol:   Pretty cute! 
Have a great evening/morning!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 12, 2005, 02:37:52 am
Judy - HOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!  :D   :D  :D  :D  :D  Fingers (and everything else) crossed that it continues.  I'm so happy for you that you get to get some SLEEP!  I kept meaning to suggest to you that since Zoe and Sarah kept getting up at night when the twins were up, you should just teach the two of them to put Kaia and Hannah back to sleep  :wink:

Micky - good news about Jack - hope he's feeling well!

Hannah - good to hear the dry run went well - I don't have to be at work until 10 AM on the two days a week I work and I'm amazed at how long it takes me to get there. 

Nikki - glad to hear the brownies were a hit.

Hayley - take care of those boobs!  Make sure you don't get sick

Traci - I am horribly bad about the monthly breast exam.  I always lie to my OB/GYN when she asks if I do it.

Andrea - can't wait to see the clothes!  I would totally love another LO whenever he/she decides to come along.  Not doing anything to prevent it, but don't think it wil happen anytime soon.

Holly - hang in there!  Judy's post should give you some hope!

Hi to everyone else!  We hung out with my sister and my nephews today - lovely day.  Have a nice weekend everyone!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 12, 2005, 02:46:35 am
Kate I *just* saw the post about Stacy on the pregnancy board!!  How exciting is that?!!!!!  I remember when we found out we were expecting twins - I would have hit the floor if I wasn't lying down!!  So thrilling.  Gosh!  goosebumps.

Holly - what's going on?  I looked back a few pages after seeing everyone tell you to hang in there but I didn't see your original post (this thread is FAST!!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 12, 2005, 03:12:10 am
Kate I *just* saw the post about Stacy on the pregnancy board!!  How exciting is that?!!!!!  I remember when we found out we were expecting twins - I would have hit the floor if I wasn't lying down!!  So thrilling.  Gosh!  goosebumps.

Holly - what's going on?  I looked back a few pages after seeing everyone tell you to hang in there but I didn't see your original post (this thread is FAST!!)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 12, 2005, 03:43:55 am
Hey all,

first off, JUDY-I AM THRILLED FOR YOU!!!  YOU MUST FEEL LIKE A NEW WOMAN, OR AT LEAST HUMAN AFTER GETTING SOME SLEEP!   :D  :lol:   I am keeping my fingers crossed for you that it continues.  Amazing what "by the book" can do huh?

Hannah and Traci-glad to hear that both kids are no worse for the ware after their little accidents.  Today I slammed T's pointer finger in the desk drawer!!   :oops:  :oops:   When she sits on my lap while I am on the computer, she likes to open the drawer and look inside.  She started to get my calculator so I went to shut it and kept pushing thinking, "hmmm, why isn't it closing?"  Then she started screaming!  What a dummy I am! :cry:

Hannah, glad the test run for work went well.  You have done such a good job with her that she will be a breeze for anyone to watch.

Kate you little lush!  :wink:  just kidding of course. :lol:

Hayley-PLEASE PUMP!  you are making my boobs hurt just thinking about it! 

thanks to everyone for being so supportive with the baby business!  you're interest and enthusiasm makes it much more liek a reality.  Now hopefully you all like the stuff!

Have a great night everyone.  looking forward to Sundays chat
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 12, 2005, 04:16:44 am
Yay Judy! That's great news.  :D

Both my kids have had similar incidents - Danielle had her arm clipped in with her highchair tray  :oops:  and Nathan had a finger in the hole for one of the harness clasps in his buggy when they were both about 6mths old (with Nathan I didn't realise what was happening and kept on jamming it in).  :oops:

Hayley, I must have missed something, are you completely weaning Daniel from BFing?  Definitely go easy on yourself if you can rather than cold-turkey.  Chilled cabbage leaves inserted into your bra work wonders I've been told - not just an old wives tale.

Karen, you can cook the egg solid and then pick off the remainding white.  I've just decided to leave it all together for a few more months and work on other foods.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 12, 2005, 06:07:47 am
Thanks for all the support on the work "dry run".  I am hoping that all goes well, but as I have said before I am extremely nervous about it it just seems like when I was teaching before I was always sooo tired and didn't have any extra time...how am I going to be a full time teacher and a mom??  The age old question I guess.

dss (step-son :)) is with us this weekend.  Dh went to play hockey tonight so I am here listening to ds explain hockey...he wants so much to be just like his dad.  I wish they could spend more time together.  Got him on the crayola site that was mentioned on the "hogging computer" thread.  Thanks for that one he loves it...I think it was Kate?

Big day tomorrow.  We will see SIL. Actually Ds is spending the night with SIL tomorrow night (on e of our two nights with him) dh actually said he feels bad that she doesn't get to spend more time with him because she "helped raise him".  I just have such a hard time realting to some of these things with dh's family.  SIL talked to me the other night and kept saying she hadn't seen Brendan since Sept and how crazy that was etc...she didn't say a thing about Sophie.  Of course, I wasn't surprised.  She is really dysfunctional.  It's sad.  It's like she being a martyr or something...like in her mind she's thinking "well, Hannah won't let me get close to Sophie, so I guess I'll just pretend like she doesn't exist" Like she thinks that's going to hurt my feelings or something.  Frankly I'd rather her stay further away so it doesn't really bother me.
Anyway...such a ranter and raver I am!
Judy---What else can I say but yahoooooooo!  You must be so thrilled and  feel so great.  Sleep is sooooo important.  I am so glad you are finally getting some :)  Can you imagine if it WAS you having another set of twins??? 
Hayley--what's up with the brick boobies?  Are you feeling any better?  What's your plan? BTW congrats to Daniel for taking the bottle so well.
OK, there's more but I gotta get ds to bed.
Talk to you all tomorrow hopefully....I'm sure I'll have loads of venom to spew over my SIL  :oops:  :roll:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 12, 2005, 12:05:15 pm
Judy-WAAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.  I so hope you didn't jinx yourself by telling us about it!
I was only in the chat room about 20 min.  I scared off all the UK people, then Cole woke up...and I never went back.  sorry :oops:

You are an inspiration.  Cole is eating solids like a madman.  There is no reason he shouldn't be sleeping through either.  I think I've been using teething as an excuse.  Not sure why he keeps waking.  Last night was better.  Only two extra wakings and DH got him for the late one.  When he woke up to feed I discovered that DH had taken him to the spare room with him :evil:   I wonder how long he tried to settle him?  5 min. perhaps. Then Cole was up at 4:30, gave him one boob (which he shouldn't need!), back down at 4:45 and up for good at 5!  I was thinking during that early feed-there is no way I should be doing this.  SO, PUPD it is for me tonight.  Thank you so much for posting and giving me hope!  If you can do it...I most certainly can too.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 12, 2005, 12:35:22 pm
Good luck Traci.  I was getting such awful sleep I figured - how much worse could it be to struggle through pu/pd for 3nights, a week?  Not any worse than it already had been for months!!

AND......... last night....... not one single wake up!! NOT ONE!!!  They fed at 6.30pm then bed about 7.15pm and woke at 6.15am.

Hee heeeeeeee.  I went to bed at midnight :)  I was stuck on here so darn excited about Stacy having twins!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 12, 2005, 12:54:32 pm
Judy - That is soooo great, I am really happy for you, now we just have to get you to bed at a decent hour :wink: !

Traci - Good luck and please vent vent away all you need!

I went on the preggy thread to check it out as all the talk about Stacy was going on and DH and I have decided to TTC! :shock:  :D  I don't want to jinx it either as DD was 3 years in coming...long story....

Hayley - please take care of yourself.  I got mastitis 6 weeks after Sophie had weaned very gradually from the breast.

Hannah - well done on the successful dryrun.

Kate - LOL.  I can always count on your posts for a chuckle and thought to myself this girl must be REALLY funny if she actually did hit the sauce :wink: !

Hi to everyone else - I gotta be quick, I am at work then have a baby shower to attend.  I bought the mom to be a the Baby WHisperer, hope she loves it!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 12, 2005, 14:19:49 pm
okay, I have a bit of a dilemma, I can't seems to get Riley down for a daytime nap without a fight, BUT she will go from about 7pm or so until 7am or, give or take an hour.
I slacked off once again, stupidhead that I am, as she was sick last week, so I concentrated on making her comfy more than the routine. The only thing that stuck with it was the bedtime stuff.
Yesterday-Friday- I tried at 10:30 to pd, she was up at 11:05am after a 20min nap, then she was up until about 1pm or so, had an hour nap with me, and then as my friend is living with us, she got her to have another 10 mins on her.
It is getting kinda hard to find the steam to get thro the day as we have taken away Jayson's nap, which is making his bedtime pd alot easier.
Any sugggestions, I would like to do pupd properly, but, with having Jayson, and it only normally being me in the day, I don't want to take that time away from Jayson, but with her not napping, that is also taking away from ourtime together as well.
As you can see, I am kinda stuck, not sure what to do, I thought I would ask you ladies first before I post my queries elsewhere.
JUDY, before I forget, so many congrats on a job expertly well done, you are my inspiration hunny, I am simply in awe of what you do each and everyday.
Oh yes, also I know that it is late, but traci I remember you asking about Jay's haloween costume, so here are some pics.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 12, 2005, 14:57:40 pm
Judy-any tips/advice on doing PUPD with this age?  Did you find it hard as they are so aware?  Any particular pages in BWSAYP that helped you more than others?  I think I'll be okay...I'm just so afraid I'll be waffling in the middle of the night :oops:   Want to be sure I'm 100% prepared!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 12, 2005, 15:44:37 pm
I'm feeding right now and don't have the book within reach but I was reading the portion for 6-8 month olds.  What I do is this:

(keep in mind my babies tummy sleep)

I lay them down and say to them "time for sleep", then lay my hand on their back for a second or two.  Either they seem to settle right in to the mattress to sleep or they fuss a bit.  If they fuss I pick them up and roll them into me so they are in a lying down position now facing me (b/c again, they are on their tummies in the crib).  I tell them again "time for sleep" and kiss them (because who can resist that sweet soft temple anyway :) ).  If they are just fussing and sound like they might calm within 20sec or so I hold them till that point and then immediately lie them back down (sorta unroll them onto their tummies again) and put my hand on their back for as long as I feel they might need (Tracy suggests doing this till they are asleep but I feel if they are calmly lying there and continue to after I remove my hand then I let them get to sleep on their own).

Now if they don't settle when I pick them up I say/do the same thing but lie them right back down still crying.  Sometimes they'll settle again once put down - because they really do want to lie down so picking them up is not really what they wanted.  If once laid back down, they don't settle I do it all again.  Eventually they seem to get that it's time to sleep and work at settling themselves.  I don't rub or pat their backs at all.  I do it on my own because dh can't stick with it over and over, he starts to feel they need something else like a pat or a rub or to roll over and stare at him for a bit ?? (yeah - that's a real sleep promoter there! ;))

Sometimes I also just talk calmly to them while they lay down to see if that helps too - with my hand on their back I'll say "time for sleep" instead of picking them up.  It either seems to help right off or it doesn't. 

Biggest point I think is to just be determined to stick with it no matter how long it takes.  I was really glad the first long session was at the 11pm wakeup because I didn't feed at this wakeup anyway so no need to second guess their need at that time.  Then they slept right through till morning so the next night I knew for sure, they'd proven to me, they didn't need to feed in the night - just wanted the suckling.

Remember all the difficulty getting them to bed at night?  That's gone, they go to sleep so easily now.  Usually a pu for Hannah but it's so much easier than patting for the 40-60 minutes that was happening.  The patting really did seem to start stimulating her too much.

Traci if Cole's eating so well with solids and nursing too, being a good healthy weight I really would feel confident that he can drop this night feed - it's just habit.  K&H are just 14lbs or so and not really eating solids enough to make a difference AND since starting this I've actually dropped an evening feed.  They were getting 5 feeds (not counting middle of the night feedings), I was clustering in a 5.15pm ish feed and then a 7pm feed.  Well I changed that to just one 6.30pm feed and now no night feedings and they're doing it wonderfully!!! :)

It's tough I think when things are 'tolerable' right, because it may be worse before better for a day or maybe two... for me it couldn't have gotten any worse.  I was so motivated to be exhausted for a few more days if it meant starting to actually get sleep.  And I read in the book that bad sleep habits at 6months only progress and it's harder to break habits at a year (makes sense right? if 6months is harder than 3months then 12months is gonna be a bear compared to 6months).

I'm gonna say it again.  Honestly.  IF there's anything that's going to shake your confidence, make you wonder if they aren't ready, make you question whether or not you can make it through then work these things out in your mind before you start because if you start half or three quarter hearted and then give in you've caused both of you stress only to start back at square one.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 12, 2005, 16:41:29 pm
Great words to the wise Judy.
Good luck Traci...hope last night went well.

I wanted to clarify, I guess for myself more than anything.  My issue with SIL, it seems like her attitude is if she can't have the same realtionship with Sophie that she had with Brendan then she wants no relationship at all.  Like I said I would almost rather it be that way but...it's hard. Anyone else experience this with family?

OK, gotta run, literally.  :)
I am just soooooo happy for you Judy and for you Traci. 
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 12, 2005, 17:17:29 pm
hi girls!!

Judy!!  Yippy for you!!!  So glad you are getting some zzzz's now!

Traci-I also pick Jack up the same way Judy described-I call it the log-roll.  One hand under his head one under his bum and just roll him in towards me and cuddle/hold until he settles or if his arching his back and pushing away from me (not longer than one min. max) then roll him off my arms back onto mattress.  Jack is a side sleeper but the techinque works the same as Judy's tummy sleepers.

Hannah-sorry I don't have the same family problems as you but I can definitely sympathize....I have an overbearing MIL but I have spoken my mind with her and she has backed off quite a bit.  I hope things go well with your SIL!!! :shock:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 12, 2005, 19:41:03 pm
Hi! 

Micky - So happy to hear that Jack is doing so well! 
Hayley - I was cringing at the weaning story.  Ouch

Thanks for the great advice Judy and I'm glad you're getting more sleep! We're following in your footsteps.

I've been slacking off a bit with Sol this week with his teething and came very close to creating a mini-monster.  I had to start pu/pd last night since getting him to go down required swinging, patting and sometimes feeding.
Last night it took almost 10 mins for him to stop crying (i think I left him too long and he got really upset) After that it was pu/pd for another 10.  Once he'd settled I held him tummy to tummy as well for a few seconds.
I put him into the crib on his tummy but he likes to roll over and look at me for a minute. I guess it doesn't help but he sure looks cute.  When he does that I don;t look at him but look straight ahead.  He made noise to get my attention but I wouldn't look at him. Then slowly walked out.

It worked!!! I had to do it for his morning nap and it only took about 5 mins to get him settled. 

Happy, happy, happy!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: MelW on November 12, 2005, 19:46:35 pm
Hi to all
My name is Mel and I am mum to 7 month old Holly.  This is my first go in this forum and am looking forward to having some good chats with you all and, of course, you all solving my baby problems!  :D
I have been married to Matt for 9 years, together for 16!  Holly is our first baby and at 33 quite a lifestyle change!  But I have to say she is an absolute joy and gives us fun and laughter everyday.  I would say she is Angel/Textbook except for the usual absolutely hating to go to sleep - she might miss something!
We have been on EASY since she was 6 weeks old and she really responded to it.  By 10 weeks she was sleeping through the night with the DF at 10pm.  But at 5 1/2 months teething hit and I think I did some accidental parenting because since then she just hasn't slept through.  At first it was just waking and chatting to herself then going back to sleep which then graduated to crying fits or just needing to put the dummy back in.  It is now just comfort, I go in and put my hand on her and shush and she goes back to sleep.  But 5 times a night does your head in :shock:
I was in shock!  I had quite quickly forgotten what it was like to get no sleep.  The problem is how do you combat it??  Matt and I decided early on that we were not going to do the leave to cry or controlled crying so what is left?  With a baby who has decided that she can't possibly go back to sleep by herself  (what were you thinking mum? :wink: )
I am hoping it is just a stage ( for the last 2 months!!)
So I am hoping that all you wonderfuls mums out there have lots of advice for me! :)

Sorry for the long post but I thought I would just dive on in.  I am working my way through some of the pages so I can catch up on who you all are and whats been happening.  You sound like a great bunch so heres to getting to know you :P
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: MelW on November 12, 2005, 20:05:32 pm
Sorry I have just realised that you have probably all discussed sleep issues to infinity and beyond in your previous posts :oops:
So I should be just reading back through and getting all your gems of advice!  Oh well, I needed to introduce myself and Holly anyway :)

Another quick question, has any of you tried some toast yet?  I tried some yesterday cut into slices with Marmite on which she loved but I had my heart in my throat the whole time worrying about choking so I haven't done it since.  Also, she is not too keen on meat and just gags it out of her mouth.  Any ideas on how to get her to eat some??

Cheers :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 12, 2005, 20:51:39 pm
Judy-thanks for the tips.  I used to pick Cole up over my shoulder but that no longer settles him so I also do the side lying cradle type hold.

When you referred to night feed, did you mean the 10 pm feed or the middle of the night feed?  My only Q now is do I get rid of both?  My concern is that Cole's last feed is at 5:30pm.  But I guess it's the same situation as you...just a couple hours earlier.  He seems to eat well at that feed BUT he hasn't been all that interested in feeding during the day.  So, even though he may be hungry tonight I think I need to bite the bullet and get through tonight, making him hungry tomorrow and hopefully his body will adjust.  *sigh*  or would it be better for now to keep the 10 pm (or lately 9pm) feed and work on the middle of the night feed?  I think that's what I'll do.  Thinking aloud now here as you can tell.  I think if I don't feed at 9 or 10 pm I'll cave at 2am thinking he's hungry.  Okay, mind made up :D   

On a positive note, he took 5 oz. of formula with daddy this afternoon so if the 10 pm feed doesn't disappear then I won't be the only one able to feed him YAY!

Welcome MelW!  I haven't had a chance to read your post properly but will do so tonight or tomorrow and try to answer your sleep Qs.  Don't worry about reading back...we'll just go forward from here.  Have you posted in the other forums as well?  Night Wakings?  That may get you more varied responses than here.  HTH
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 12, 2005, 22:33:44 pm
Hi Mel and Holly!  If you look not too far back, you can read about a couple of peoples PU/PD experiences.  Otherwise, like Traci said, the night wakings forum might be helpful.  I personally haven't given toast, but I know some have.

Hey, check out this link - it's some pictures of Katie and her cousin at my sister's yesterday.  Cracks me up!
http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/glass-tabletops-vt45596.html?sid=7e096549bc1b69df14780efa53df0373

Glad to hear everyone is well.  Hannah, feel free to vent about SIL anytime you want.  I am blessed with very nice in-laws, but I know it can be tough.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 13, 2005, 01:35:32 am
Welcome Mel and Holly!  If you read back you'll get some good tips.  I'd like to suggest that crying it out is not the same as letting a baby settle for a little bit.  I let Ryan give a few cries if they are what we call "Fake Cryin' Ryan" cries, but if it's that "OMG, Mom!  Where are you?" kind of cry, I run right in.  Hope that helps...do whatever you and dh think is right, of course!   :)   Re:  toast: I know some of the girls have done toast with cheese melted on top.  I've torn toast into teeny tiny pieces for Ryan to feed himself, but not let him have a whole piece yet. 
That's it for now...should go do something fun on a Sat. night, I suppose.   :roll:   Who has the energy?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 13, 2005, 02:58:43 am
Sorry Traci - we went out to - get this - a Christmas Party tonight.  More just a party/get together with all our friends.  We used to all go out for dinner at least once every weekend and now that we all have kids we get together 3 times in the summer and once in November and call that our Christmas Party.  What a crazy place - 16 adults and as many kids!!

Kaia and Hannah would wake at 11pm and 4am (give or take)  I had not been feeding at the 11pm wakeup for awhile, just the 4am one.  So now they're not getting any feeds between 6.30pm and 6-7am.  Really that's just one hour earlier than Cole.

Keep us posted on what plan you take and how it goes!!! Good luck! You can do it! :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 13, 2005, 03:28:35 am
Hi Everyone,

Traci - Good luck with with pu/pd let us know how you go. You are right in saying Judy is such an inspiration !!

Naomi - I have had some success lately with naps after using the weissbluth information Andrea and Traci posted for me (except the CIO part of course) More to do with the timing of the naps and no napping in between. Perhaps that might help your LO also -HTH

Hannah - good luck with the SIL thing fill us in on how it went

Mel - Welcome to you and Holly. A few pages back I posted how to make your own toast rusks which are really good. I wouldn't worry about the meat too much. I havn't even tried it yet and my LO (Halle) is 8mths. You could re-introduce it later. I am with Kate on the 'cryin Ryan' thing  :lol: I let Halle cry to settle for naps but it is only the 'mantra cry' If it was a real cry I would go straight in - but you get to know the difference.

Erin - Those pictures of Katie are so cute  :)  :)

Well, I had a great afternoon yesterday - DH stayed home and I went out LOL - I went to see John Fogerty in an outdoor concert at one of the Vineyards near my place. It was called "A Day on the Green"  I thought I only had 3 drinks but my cousin kept topping up my drink so not sure how much I had. :oops:  Lucky Halle will take formula from DH with no probs so I've been doing the old pump and dump this morning. I think it should be OK to do the 3pm feed though.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 13, 2005, 04:10:21 am
hey i just thought of something....we have all these new mums in our group, but no faces, anyone up for it.
Nome, where are you....hope all is well in the uk
So I think this is all that we are missing since we started this thread, and yes I did write it down..haha.
herbst99-nikki
mrayohler
busymom
m&m'smom
jaysmummy,
and to anyone else who I have forgotten that we don't hear from, I hope all is well with you.
Just wanted to say hi to all the lurkers out there, I know I get in the habit of it every so often
k..that is me, ttfnmfl
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: MelW on November 13, 2005, 04:22:18 am
Thanks for the tips. 

I am definitely having trouble reading the cries.  I do let her have a few cries but not for too long as am really conscious of it.  Also, because she was such a cruiser for the first 5 months and hardly cried at all I have a hard time with it. :(   So I think this is where my accidental parenting comes in because now if I leave her to cry a little bit she quickly winds it up to the OMG! level knowing that I will respond.  In fact, if I dare to leave the room before she is asleep she cries - ratbag!

Gosh I think back fondly to when she would settle herself and garble herself to sleep.  Where did that angel go??? :P Never mind, she will return I am sure......the power of positive thinking.

Bec - we lived in Perth from 2000 to 03 and I have some very fond memories of the Margaret River wineries.  Good food, good wine, great times! :D   So I am very jealous, I bet you had a great time.

I am only BF once a day now, usually mornings where we snuggle in bed and feed. So I am looking forward to starting on a few wines.  Mmmm with summer coming.......nice lazy afternoons with some friends, a good bottle of wine, cheese etc etc.  And of course a daughter who entertains herself while Mum enjoys her wine and cheese - what are the chances?  :lol:

TTFN
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 13, 2005, 04:54:30 am
Hi again Mel and welcome to our forum!  :D   I think a lot of us experienced changes around the 5-6mth mark, developmental stuff mostly, teething, rolling, crawling can all cause problems.  I would say since you've had a cruisey baby for so long that it's definitely developmental and just ride it out, respond to her like you are and it will smooth out again (it will be forever changed, but you'll both adapt to the new way).  :wink:

So what else is everyone doing for finger food?  Danielle's taken to eating things from what we're having (already tested as purees) - brocolli flowerettes (that one surprised me), roasted potatoes and pumpkin.  Last night she had oven fries and gummed them up well considering she doesn't have any teeth yet.  We haven't done toast since it's not a commodity that lives in this house anymore (until I start doing some baking).  :lol:  Nathan used to freak me out and was still gagging on chunky stuff at this stage, D's just taken to it so easily. 

Oh and an update on Nathan, I can finally start to see some changes after being on the new diet for 2wks!  Yay. :D

Night all.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 13, 2005, 05:15:48 am
Hello to Mel, welcome.  I second what Nikki said. We went through some really rocky times about a month or so ago...right around the time I found this thread...thank goodness!!!  Things have smoothed out, but of course dd reminds me daily that there is no such thing as perfect :)  I have to say I love the idea of the babes taking care of themselves while the adults have a nice glass of wine :)

Nikki- we did broccoli flowers the otehr day too...couldn't believe it but yes she ate them.  Must feel funny in their mouth.  We have been doing toast made from bread from the bread maker...no gluten!!!  Do you have a bread maker? You could easily bring toast back into your lives :)
We have also done a few cubes of cheese which she loves I have been sort of half feeding her and half letting her pick up the scrablem eggs.  If you put them in the fridge for a while after cooking, they firm up nicely.

Thanks for all the sil support.  Saw her today, actually wasn't so bad.  It was kind of funny though to see her sort of "snub" Sophie.. I just handed S over right away and how can you snub a cute babe in your arms?!  I went over the top invoting her to come over/go out for lunch/ call anything...so we'll see.  I told dh tonight that I think SIL is a hrad nut to crack and he said I don't think she's worth cracking...she IS cracked :)  So at least I have his support on the matter.

Naomi...are you looking for pics of the mom's?  Or just looking for the missing mom's...wasn't sure.

Erin- loved those pictures of Kate.

LOL at cryin' Ryan...Sophie does that too sometimes.  I can usually tell when it's escallating to an "I need you" cry and go in.

Bec-good for you...I love the phrase pump and dump. especially when it's for such a good cause.

And Judy yay for you and your party..everybody's having so much fun! I guess tis the season...or starting to be at least.
OK, gotta go df. Can't wait to  chat tomorrow.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 13, 2005, 05:52:10 am
Judy HOOORRRAAAYYY!!! Pleased that you are finally getting some sleep! :D Thanks for info on PU/PD. I have never done it as did not really know what to do and the few times I have tried it, he just gets MAD!! I now know what to do if I need to.
Welcome Mel!
Traci, Sam's last feed is usually at 6 pm and last night, it was 5.45 pm. He woke at 4 am as he was wedged and took till 5 to settle again, he was sooo upset!  :cry: Poor sausage! Anyway, he slept till 7.45 am which would mean 14 hours from his last feed so I wouldn't worry about Cole esp if he is taking lots of solids.
Like Judy, I only do 4 milk feeds a day plus 3 solid meals. Good luck on PU/PD.
Nikki, well done Nathan! We tried hard boiled egg yesterday mixed in with his veges and Sam did not mind it at all. I agree, I do not know how you scramble without getting bits of white in it. Any advice anyone?
Good luck with SIL, Hannah.
Hayley, are you doing OK? My boobs hurt just thinking about you. Do take care.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 13, 2005, 12:57:58 pm
hannah, I was looking for everyone I guess, I thought it would be nice for us all to see eachother, especially the newer posters.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 13, 2005, 14:12:58 pm
Hi Everyone,

Haven't had a chance to read, just wanted to post an update.  Cole was down at 5:30pm last night!  He pretty much started his day at 4:30 yesterday so there was no way I could stretch him until 6.  I also tried a different tactic for naps and he had 3 short naps :oops:   I focussed on A time rather than clock time and I'm not so sure it worked for him.

Anyway, this is how it went.  He woke at 8:15 pm.  I did pupd, gave him some anbesol for his gums and he managed to settle back by 8:35 or so.  Woke at 10 and I fed him and he went right back to sleep.

Then the big event.  Woke at 1:50 am.  To start, I gave him anbesol and tylenol because I didn't want to think he was in pain.  Did pupd and he seemed to settle about oh, I'd say three times.  I would leave the room as all was quiet.  Gave him 2 min. to settle (he often cries to settle) and nope, not having it.  One time I stayed with him and counted to 500  :shock:, removed my hand and NOPE, still crying.  Long story short I finally left him and he went to sleep at 3:30.  YEP, 1 hour and 40 min. later but I did not cave in.  YAY for me and for Cole!  I was so wound up though and rethinking everything that I didn't get to sleep until 4:30 then he was up at 5:30 for the day.  I fed and tried to put him back down thinking he'd be tired having been up in the night but no go. 

Thankfully DH took him at 6:15, fed him breakfast, did first nap and I slept until 8:30.  I know I complain about DH a lot, but he really is a wonderful guy.  First nap was 45 min., think he went down 15 min too early, but DH saw yawns and he was grizzling so he put him down.

Anyway, I didn't feed him at 2am.  I'm sure we'll have a couple rough nights but it will be worth it in the end.

gotta run, DH needs a break!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 13, 2005, 15:23:35 pm
Hi girls!!

Welcome Mel!!  This thread can be a life saver!!

Traci: Good Job with not caving in!!!  It will get better!!  When we were determined to get Jack out of the habit of waking at night it took us 3 nights and then one more night a few days later.  There is at least a light at the end of the tunnel!!

Well, Poor Jackson!!!  He is sooooo constipated from the codiene!! :(   Last time he had a good poop was on tuesday.  He usually goes once or twice a day.  Yesterday he was straining and straining for about 10 mins.  I took him into his room to change him and NO POO!! :shock:   So I gave him a glycerine supp.  Well he started straining again while he was on the table....then he started crying really hard like he was in serious pain and he just couldn't get it out so.....(poor jack)....I had to "help"him IYKWIM!!!  He was in so much pain and crying so hard he puked!! :cry:  :(   My poor little peanut.  My DH was on the verge of tears too :shock:  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 13, 2005, 15:45:36 pm
Oh Micky  I hope Jackson feels better!!!

Good work Traci, keep it up!

Naomi---I'll go...because I'm such an exhibitionist and still somewhat new right :)

Hannah
this is me with Sophie when she was about 3-4 mos. and Brendan after a face painting...
This is my bossy look  :lol:  :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 13, 2005, 16:02:54 pm
BTW I think I have seen pics of the following people, but would love to see more:
Judy
Andrea
Naomi
Katie
Erin
Ankie
Traci
I think that's it..

Richelle, I forgot to say earlier...congrats on TTC!!!! I am so excited for you.  Dh and I always admire how gorgeous "the other" Sophie is.  I happy for you and your (growing) family. We think this WEBSITE is addictive...but I have a feeling this having kids thing is a little addictive too :)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 13, 2005, 22:45:38 pm
it is sunday right, just wondering if we were all still up for the chat tonite at 9pm est.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 13, 2005, 23:48:53 pm
Hello everybody,

I'm back. My ILs have left for home and I've read the posts I've missed since Wednesday.

Hooray for Judy!! You have given me inspiration to get back on track. For the past 6 weeks, we have been really giving in to the night wakings and I am exhausted so... renewed determination was what I needed. (And a wake-up call... you are right... don't want a kid not sleeping through the night when I go back to work)

Micky
... glad Jackson got through his surgery well. I'm sending you get well vibes over here!

Welcome to Mel and Holly!

Okay... solid food. We have had two good days. However, it is due to offering solids before the BF or at least 2 or 3 hours after the BF. See the problem??? The times don't work. It was a fluke that it worked for the last 2 days because I have been nursing at odd times and accidental parenting all over the place that I have had success with solids  :roll: Of course, adding the solids gave me the grossest poo I have had to clean up in a while. Kate... I'm sure YKWIM.

Anyway, I am determined to get her back on track. We usually have really good mornings but our night sleep is HELL! I can't believe that she can survive on the type of sleep that she is getting. I have tracked her sleep for 2 months now and for the last 5 weeks, the wakings have been over the top. At least 3-6 times a night. I am grouchy and barking at DH. (Don't have time to post about a long DH vent right now but don't worry, I will!) So... tonight... by the book pick up/put down. (Thanks again, Judy... don't know if I would have decided to do it if I had not read about your success!)

Hope to join you ladies in a few hours in the chat room. I need a visit with my cyber friends and a good virtual martini!

TTFN!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 14, 2005, 00:16:14 am
Hi everyone, thank you for your kind thoughts about my weaning. On your advice yesterday I expressed a little and it definitely has helped. I haven't done a lot, just enough to make more comfy, and also massaged out the lumps a bit. I think/hope I"m going to be okay. Trying to take it easy, but when there's apple to be cooked, baby to change and carry, and everything else that goes on it's not easy.

Daniel is going so well with the bottle. He's taking the morning and bed feed with no problems. The 2 day feeds he fights before we get it in, then once it's in he's away guzzling. Infact he's going so very well on my friends advice I'm going to limit how much I give him. Only max 200mls at each feed. Because what's happening is he's filling up on formula and not taking enough solids. I think he's definitely getting more from the bottle than he was from me, so I'm really happy we made the change.

Yesterday was DH's grandparents 60th wedding anniversary, there was a big dinner about 1 hour's drive from here. We decided just to go for the afternoon and evening then drive home. Daniel was the perfect baby the whole time, ate well, even his solids, took the bottle, smiled when he should, was quiet when he should. And SLEPT in his buggy/pushchair from 6.30pm until we left at 11pm. Not a peep from him. Then had a normal night sleep once home.

We've managed to stop feeding Daniel during the night, but I think the teething powder is becoming a prop! So, tonight I will persist a little longer with PUPD. I think we've kind of been doing that without realising it, so I'll just keep at it a few more times before offering the powder to see if that helps. In saying that he's been a bit grumpy today until I gave him some powder then he became happier, so maybe, just maybe he does need it.

All going well I'll check in to chat at 3pm NZ time.

Oh, welcome Mel, great to have another kiwi on board.

You're an inspiration to us all Judy! Thank you. I'll hopefully post another photo or two of Daniel soon.

Bye for now, someone wants his BOTTLE!!!!! YAY!!!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 14, 2005, 00:46:34 am
One more thing I wanted to share. The other day I decided to make Daniel a toy. I'm normally not the sort to do that, but I figured why not? So took an empty 1 litre milk bottle  (plastic with a handle) and put about 1/3 cup of macaroni dry pasta in it. Well, he loves it! He can hold the handle and shake it about. Even goes after it before the fancy nice bought ones. He was just in the jolly jumper and I gave it to him in that and that was even more fun. Shaking and jumping was great!

As they say, it's not always the most expensive presents/toys that are the best.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 14, 2005, 00:46:48 am
Hello all!  I haven't been on this thread for ages it seems!  We have been having some definite sleep problems lately and I was hoping some of you could help me.  I was just wondering, on average, how much sleep do your lo's at this age have?  Is anyone experiencing seperation anxiety that is affecting naps and night wakings.  My DS has always slept through the night and suddenly he is waking multiple times, crying hysterically ... and I am the only one who can comfort him!!  He won't go down for naps either.  It seems like he is too hyped up for a nap.  His arms and legs just won't stop moving, even when he is feeding.  It is like I can't tire him out  :x   When I finally get him to sleep it only lasts 30 mins tops!!!! 

I thought for awhile that it might be a hunger issue but I think he is eating alot for his age?!!  What is everyone else feeding their DC at this age?  2 meals or 3, or less?  I have no idea what the norm is??!!

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on??  Anyone experience something similar?
TIA
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 14, 2005, 01:14:43 am
hi cathy, I just wanted to let you know what is going on with Riley, she has 3 solids feeds a day, breakfast is cereal, lunch is usually a meat and veggie combo, and then in the afternoon is a fruit feed. She usually has about 5 milk feeds a day in with that too, the routine we TRY to follow is EAEAS, and the order of the eat is whateverone I remember to do :oops:  :oops: .
As for the sleep things, I think it mat be developmental, riley went through a phase of that, tonite she woke up on all fours, perfect position, just not the thing to do in your sleep. It maybe something you simply have to wade through.
Riley normally sleeps about, oo, I'd say 12hrs at night and if we are lucky a combined total of 2hrs in the day. Her day naps have been rougher lately, but for some reson, i have no idea what I did, but I am not complaining at all, she started sleeping through the night :shock:  :shock:  I think it was wednesday she started this, so pleased and happy, I am no longer a zombie for half of the day.
Hayley, are you weaning Daniel off of the boob, if you are I wish I had your guts, just tears me up inside that it will end, even with me going back to work in two weeks, well starting my new job. I am hoping to get her first am and her bedtime feed in, but who knows for sure.
Well gotta run, see you all in the chat.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 14, 2005, 01:28:47 am
Cathy, Daniel is sleeping about 11-12 hours at night, and 2.5 - 3 hours in naps during the day (with only 2 naps). As you may have just read, I've just weaned him (cold turkey) onto a bottle, so at the moment he's enjoying the bottle more than solids, but he was/is doing 4 bottles and 3 feeds. He doesn't eat a lot compared with some babies of the same age, even though he is tall for his age (not over in weight though, just average). He eats about 2 icecubes of food, about 2 oz I think per meal.

Naomi, yep, I've weaned from 4 breastfeeds a day to nothing from me and all bottle. I didn't think Daniel would take both and didn't want to risk him not taking the bottle since we'd decided it was time for me to have some flexibility. Of course at the moment he's still best at taking the bottle from me, but once he's really got the knack of it I'll hand him over to DH a bit more. I was really emotional a few weeks back when I just out of the blue decided to try, but then we put a date in place to do it, about a month on from deciding and that gave me time to get used to the idea. I did shed a few tears during his last very special feed. Also, by coincidence we weaned on his 7th month birthday, so that's the day I think to myself that he took the next step in growing up. I guess that's also how I've looked at it, he's growing up. We want our LO's to crawl, eat solids, walk, talk, and for me, taking a bottle is also a growing up step. IMO, I realise it's not for everyone.

Well, I'm going to have a quick snooze on the couch before the chat if I can, if I don't make it, then Daniel's still sleeping and so am I!!! :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 14, 2005, 02:02:33 am
Hey, guys!  I'll see you in a few, but wanted to post for Cathy.  Ryan has 4 bf's a day and 3 solid meals.  Breakfast is cereal and fruit, Lunch is fruit and veggies and/or meat, Dinner is cereal and veggies and/or meat.  He eats A LOT and still nurses quite a bit.  Ryan is also a big sleeper.  Today, he took 2 nearly 2 hour naps and will probably sleep 11-12 hours at night.  That's a lot, I know, but he's a happy little guy, so why mess with it, huh?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 14, 2005, 03:23:54 am
First off I'd like to say Welcome to Mel!
Looking forward to getting to know you.

Second...Judy...you have given me so much inspiration. I have been having some really rough nites with Brady lately, not sleeping at all. I read all what you were doing with pu/pd and I'm ready to go at it again. Here's crossing my fingers and hoping.  again you truly have given me inspiration to keep at it....it will pay off.

Traci - hope its working for you and Cole. Good Luck tonight.

Brady is eating solids very well, and drinks 4-6 oz of milk with each feed, so I don't think he should be waking up for a feed during the night anymore, but I'm not sure, I don't want to starve my boy.... :cry:

Anyway, wish me luck girls, here's hoping we can stick to it and it works.

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 14, 2005, 04:07:35 am
Hi girls.  Missed you all again in the chat.
Hello Mel, glad you have joined the thread and excited that you will be added your good sense.
Judy-Great job on the sleeping so excited for you to get some much needed and deserved rest.
Micky-Hope the poop is going better.
Cathy-Here is what we are doing these days.  2-3 solids a day of around 4/5 ouces of cereal, fruit or veggies 11-12 hours of night sleep and 3-4 hrs of naps  Some of the sleeping problems might be teeth
Naomi-I am trying to get myself ready to wean.  I know that i am going to be a mess.  Be sure to post about your feelings when the time comes so we can help you through it.
I am working on finger foods but still having problems with choking.  i know we talked about that a lot a while back.  I made some toast, Ben sucked and gummed it and then sucked off a huge piece and started choking on it.  Does that mean that I didn't toast it enough?  He has had a good time solid feeding that last week and then today he refused all solids at lunch and dinner.  so mad even when I just showed him the spoon. 
No crawling here yet.  Ben seems so content to just sit on a blanket and play with toys.  For those whose Lo's seem to get around more-do you just set them in an open area for them to go and explore? or should I just be satisfied that he will sit and hang out for a while?
Have a good Monday everyone.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 14, 2005, 04:32:26 am
I was glad I could pop into the chat for a bit but wish I could have spent more time, something i will have in 2 more weeks - can't wait!

Was I reading in the chat that someone was kicked off the site for bad behaviour, how juicy, any details? 

Thanks for all the well wishes for TTC, we will see how it goes.  I didn;t get too stressed about it the 1st time around so I am not going to get hung up about how long it may take again.

Ankie, Traci and Holly - good luck with the work ahead and don't forget to rest when LO does!

Welcome Mel!

Cathy - Sophie sleeps 11-11.5 hours at night and we have moved her naps to get rid of Catnap and are doing 2 naps of 1.5 hours each.  She eats solids 3x and formula 4x.

Hannah -great picture!

Hayley - I am still worried about your boobs!

Don't you love that boobs and poop are just normal words in our vocabulary?

Oh I know there is more but I am a bit sleepy and must run to bed!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 14, 2005, 04:33:49 am
Hi girls just testing to see if a picture I am trying to put on is successful.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 14, 2005, 05:58:55 am
Hi, thought it was time to post another photo. This is Daniel and I at my friends daughter's 1st birthday. It was a day of 1st for Daniel too. This was his 1st rocking horse ride, he also had 1st swing, trampoline and guest at a birthday party.  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 14, 2005, 11:53:13 am
Love the pic Hayley, Daniel is tooooo cute!!! :)


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 14, 2005, 12:01:41 pm
Hi Richelle, I missed  you last nite too, I logged into the chat but later on and you were gone already. Good luck with the ttc. :)


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 14, 2005, 12:10:41 pm
love the pic Hayley-look how happy he is!!

macaire-as the mom of a very mobile and active baby I would say enjoy the fact that he's sitting and can entertain himself without you having to chase him (and keep him safe!).  You'll have years more of that ahead and only a few short weeks of what you have now :D  As for toast, we haven't done finger foods yet.  paranoid of choking.  we did buy some cheerios this weekend though.

mel-cole sleeps 11.5-12 hours at night from approx 6-6. He naps approx 2.5-3 hours during the day.   Some days two naps but mainly three naps still.  Was getting rid of the catnap before the time change and it messed him up and he's never recovered!

Cole woke at 11:50 last night and after a few pupds and hovering to be sure he was asleep i was back in bed by 12:10.  Up again at 2:20, took until 3:20 to go back down so that's an improvement anyway.  I forgot to give the anbesol/tylenol right away and I think that was part of the problem.  He also is calm a lot of the time, climbing up to stand, I PD, climbs, I PD.  Finally decided to leave the room a few times to MAKE him cry so that he'd actually go back to sleep.  And in typical Cole fashion when he did settle he cried for about 3 minutes before finally giving up. 

Remember my ankle incident last night...running to tell DH to turn off the vacuum?  Well, my ankle was throbbing last night and I can't put my full weight down :oops:  Isn't going to make for an easy couple of days.

OH yes, and a DH rant.  I went in at 6:40 today to hand Cole off to him for breakfast.  DH looked at me and said OMG-I thought I got up at 7:00.  I stated that Cole is getting up 30 min. earlier so he needs breakfast now!  He said he needed another 30 min. sleep.  And I said FINE, I was only up for 1.5 hours in the middle of the night!!!

gotta run-cole sick of the saucer.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 14, 2005, 12:43:45 pm
Is there a 'rebound' night?? did I read that?  I'll have to check.  My goodness last night was simply awful but I persevered and we got through without feeding.

Hannah woke at 3.30am and was not so impressed with pu/pd this time.  Bedtime was similar for her so I wasn't surprised.  It took till 4.30am on the dot for her to go back to sleep.  She woke Kaia who was trying so hard to put herself back to sleep.  I left her quiet - hoping - but she started crying at 4.50am... the again at 5.15am till just past 5.30am.

Then Hannah was up to fed at 6.15 and Kaia at 7.15

Man do I feel like I've been hit by a truck - almost worse than before after getting a few good nights.  I hope it's just a 'test' to see if we really aren't going to feed in the night.... and if it is a test I really hope they're convinced now.

Way to go Traci & Cole!!  Hope you made dh get up anyway.  Does he realize if there's no more night feedings he could be doing those wakings instead of breakfast??

good luck Holly - keep us posted...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 14, 2005, 12:51:44 pm
hi there girls, I went back to see you all last night and you were gone, oh well!
I called teresa (staszk)last night, she says she is fine, a little shocked but fine.
One thing she did point out is that it is amazing how close we all feel yet in reality we are all quite far apart, geographically that is.

Riley is into all sorts of food at the moment, she has jumped ahead of me and likes her finger foods, she was eying my mac & cheese the other day, so  I tried it, an she gobbled it up, same with peas and carrots, we had some in a can for a lunch. Also we were out I tried her on fries, naughty of me I know, but I broke them into small pieces and she was very proud that she could pick them up and eat them.
She also woke up on all fours again, quite a sigfht I can tell you.
I think this maybe the end of our bf, not sure, she has taken to biting and pulling her head back with me still in her mouth :shock:  :shock: , she did it 3 times when I was on the phone with her.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 14, 2005, 13:03:29 pm
ah yes biting and pulling  :roll:   Hannah bites!  LLL site has good tips for this.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 14, 2005, 14:53:12 pm
yes Judy, regression is typical on day 5 or so...so they are right on track for that.  stick with it, you're nearly there!

I also wonder if Cole is self-weaning...he rarely takes the right breast anymore :?   If so he's fighting me the whole time.  Not biting (did that for about a day last week but hasn't since)  So I am pumping to keep up my supply just in case it's a phase.  I'm not going to mention the t#$th&*^ word because I just don't know if that's the case!

And Judy-I agree with you on how you're feeling.  I felt so awful yesterday after being up in the night.  At least when I fed I was relaxed and went right back to sleep.  Now it takes me at least 30 minutes so it's really draining me.  And no, I didn't get DH up. I woke him at 7:30 and then he said-you should have got me at 7:00 :evil:
He keeps saying he'll read BW so that he can understand the technique, but he hasn't yet.  He's doing stuff around the house though that I've wanted done for ages.  As long as that gets done then I can sleep when Cole naps and I should be able to manage.  I don't mind doing all the night wakings...but I do want him to get up when I ask because I usually only ask for a reason (very tired or time for breakfast or like today-throbbing foot!)

by the way mel, I forgot to mention.  Cole BFs 5 times a day (was 6 until 2 nights ago) and has 3 solid meals.  Usually 1 or 2 cubes of veggies or fruit and 3 or so tbsp of cereal with each meal.  He's a little piggie.  I think I'll start finger foods this weekend.  Want DH around to witness it.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 14, 2005, 15:35:57 pm
Well our nite went something like this. Brady went to bed at 7pm, up again at 11pm, could not at all get him back down until 1am...pu/pd constantly, wow exhausting... :shock:
then he slept again till 4:30 and was up till 7am.....again :shock:
then went down at 7am back up again at 7:45 right on the dot....I've been doing pu/pd but he isn't taking the hint....doesnt' seem to work, but I'm still giving it all I've got.    :(

Judy: sorry you had a setback last nite, hoping it is good today and tonight...maybe just a test like you said....

Traci: sorry about your foot, hope it feels better soon. I can relate with the DH situation, sadly my dh doesn't do nite feedings or breakfast feedings either. I usually have him feed Brady his supper, but that about sums it up.... :roll: sometimes a bit more help would be great, but what can I do.... :roll:   -------I must be slow today, cause I have no idea what the t#$th&*^ word   is Traci??? :oops:

Naomi - Brady has been doing the same thing, while still nursing, pulling his head back and pulling away, while with me still in his mouth...OUCH!!!


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 14, 2005, 15:50:27 pm
k... we will see if this works now.
This is me and jay this week.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 14, 2005, 15:53:57 pm
Holly, I think Traci was referring to that phase when your baby gets those bumps on their gums...we don't want to say the word, b/c we keep thinking our lo's are doing that and then they don't.  So, we don't want to jinx it by saying the word.  (Well, that's me, anyway).

So fun to chat last night!  All the ttc talk got me in the mood to start...but since I'm still on bc, I guess we settled for just practicing.   :wink:

So, after my post about all of Ryan's sleeping, I'm worried.  He went down at 7 pm, up at 8 or so (I think he thought it was a catnap...did that on Sat. night, too.   :roll: )  I bf-ed him for about 3 mins., since he hadn't taken a good feed before bed.  Right back down and didn't hear from him again until I went to check at 7:50!   :shock:   That would be almost 13 hours!  But, I think he was already awake, b/c he sat right up and was excited to see me.  And, my other clue to him being awake is that he was getting really cranky at 9:20 and I couldn't keep him up past 9:30 and he went right down.  I can feel all the darts being sent to the computer from those of you who are having trouble through the night, but is it possible for a baby to get too much sleep?  Or am I making up issues? 

Okay, well, I guess I should go do something...it'll probably be a 45 minute nap since I just posted that.   :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 14, 2005, 16:42:59 pm
Holly-HUGE hugs to you.  What an exhausting night.  Is Brady's reflux improved with his new meds?  I hope that might not be part of the issue for you.  Remember to be consistent and he should catch on in a few days.  And Kate was right.  The "word" has to do with them chewing a lot, drooling, sore bum.  BUT Cole doesn't exhibit all the symptoms so I'm not sure he is.  I think I'm just making up excuses for his wakings.

Kate-it's not a dart I'm throwing but a very pointy, long arrow :D   But I'm throwing it in the nicest way :wink:   Seriously...I wouldn't fret about it.  Enjoy it while you can until the next milestone hits and he starts to wake:)

Cole had something like a 30-35 nap this morning.  He was actually grizzly too.  Not like him at all.  I think he was hungry though because after he fed he was happier. This nap was after 2.5 hours of A time from 5:30-8:00am.  Maybe DH didn't wind him down well enough :?   He's gone down again after another 2.5 hours A time and I soooo hope he doesn't get up at 45 min. b/c he rarely goes back down for me.  I just keep thinking of Danielle who has 45 min. morning nap and longer afternoon.  If only I could get a 2 hour nap out of him things would be much smoother I think.

My ankle actually feels better after raising it up while DH had Cole and I took a short nap.  Going to go ice it now and read the newest Diana Gabaldon book...Breath of Snow and Ashes!  LOVE IT!

Naomi-we finally get to see a recent pic:)  I'm no good at telling if babies look like their parents...who do Riley and Jay take after??  I think we should both get our hair cut shorter...like you had in your hospital pic.  Whatcha say?  are you game?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 14, 2005, 17:12:56 pm
traci I am game for getting my hair cut, and those bushes above my eyes need trimming too, I gotta do something before I go back to work, I don't think the sahm look would go over well at work :lol:  :lol: .
I think I am going to go and get mine done next week, probably tuesday.
I think that the kids look like dh, but I am also crap at seeing who they look like.
TCFNMYL
take care for now my fine ladies
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 14, 2005, 17:51:32 pm
Shoot, I missed the chat last night.   :(  It was a toss up between that or Batman Begins. 

No chance to catch up on the read but just wanted to update the pu/pd and DF situation.

pu/pd has been working well but only when I do it.  DH tends to want to swing or rock and can't just stand still.  Mind you it's only day 3

Dropping the DF has been a disaster!!  I've tried moving the time up - he still wakes up @11 and wants more.  Last night I tried giving it in a bottle.  He was still asleep but pushing the bottle away and shaking his head. 
Haley - I'm inspired by you and  think I'll have to go cold turkey with LO.  He's only eating breakfast and dinner right now so maybe if I add lunch, I can drop the DF altogether.

Anyone else had any success dropping DF? 

I want to post a pic of Sol & me but our Photoshop is on the fritz.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 14, 2005, 17:59:13 pm
Can't remember who asked but here's that pic.
Hannah
Woops I guess it's a different one...close enough.
naomi you and Jay and so cute:)
You go girls on the haircut.
More from me later.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 14, 2005, 18:32:40 pm
Good morning... well... it's morning anyway.

My plan last night... pu/pd for any wakings prior to 10 pm. Feed between 10 and 11. pu/pd for any further wakings until 4 am at which time I could feed if she wakes.

Here is how the night went.
5:30 Nurse
6:15 pm Bedtime (no catnap)
6:20 nurse (as part of the routine... she didn't really take any)
9:20 pm wake... pu/pd for 6 minutes
9:50 pm wake... nursed
1:44 am wake... pu/pd for 1h 50 min DH came in after 50 minutes and took over.
3:45 am wake (asleep for only 5 min) pu/pd by DH
4:01 am wake... nursed
7:15 am up for the day

Needless to say, DH is very tired and so am I.

Arwyn was just screaming as I tried to put her back down last night after 50 minutes. When DH took over, she was so quiet... I walked in after 5 minutes to find DH holding her and swaying. :evil: I told him not to do that, for God's sake, I could do that!

Anyway, I did it again 5 minutes later and woke her up. I couldn't help it and did it again 30 min later at which time, DH yelled at me and swore in a very loud voice. Well... that must have scared the living daylights out of DD to fall back asleep because DH came back to bed about 1 min. later.  :shock:

Her morning nap was terrible. I got her to sleep and she woke 10 min. later as I was getting in the shower so I raced out of the bathroom and nursed her back to sleep (sitting naked on her futon :roll: ) She woke up 30 minutes later and I am just too exhausted to do anything about it. So... here we are... watching Baby Einstein and mommy is on the computer.

I can only dream of a better night tonight. 2 hours is too long to pu/pd  :shock: and I am scared I will lose my determination if there is no improvement. Traci... you are right on... at least with nursing, you are relaxed and the baby goes back to sleep very quickly!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 14, 2005, 19:11:30 pm
Thanks so much for all your input ladies.  I realize that Carter eats about the same as everyone else (4-5 bf's and 3 solid meals of 2-3oz each) but he is seriously lacking in the sleep department at the moment!!  He sleeps 8:30pm-6:30am (so 10 hours) and for the last few days only 2 naps of 30mins each  :(   He used to do 2 naps of 90mins each up until a week ago  :shock:   Boy, do I miss that!!! 

This morning he woke up after 25 mins so I was determined to get him back to sleep!  I stayed in his room for another 45 mins doing pu/pd and he just screamed the whole time .... I am in awe of anyone who can do pu/pd!!!!

Well, it sounds like he is awake already from nap #2 ... after only 15 mins  :shock:  :x  :cry:   Where did my good napper go???  I hope it is only a phase!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 14, 2005, 19:20:27 pm
Oh Ankie, you get as much sleep as you can when Arwyn sleeps, it sounds like you need it.

Cute photo of Sophie, and lovely of Naomi and Jay.

Traci and Naomi, I've done the shorter hair thing in the past couple of months and I'm really pleased I did, so go for it!

We had a great night last night, not right the way thru, but when Daniel woke at 3.30am I PUPD twice and then he went to sleep. I did use our music which plays for 15mins to help, but hopefully that won't be considered a prop just yet. THe best bit was I didn't use t-powder. Then he slept thru until 6am. This is past his horrible 5amish wake up. Yay! He may have been awake just before 6am, but that was when I first heard him. I didn't get up to him until about 6.15am. Then he had his bottle at 6.30am. Quite happy, not grizzly while waiting so that was good.

Do any of you feed solids just after milk? I kind of did that thismorning, instead of waiting an hour. It was only about 15-20mins. He seemed to take about the same amount, if not more, and seemed happier about it. I may try giving him his solids for lunch first today, if I can stretch him to 11am. The nurse said to start the switch slowly by doing this meal first. So I'll give it a go today if the timings work, ie he has a long enough sleep. I've just put him down now at 8.20am, so we'll see.

As for my cold turkey weaning, I'm going okay still I think. A little tired feeling, more so than normal, and a bit tingly sometimes, but otherwise okay.

Well I'm off back to bed for a little nap too. Everything else can just wait.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 14, 2005, 19:28:15 pm
Oh ANKIE...HUGS!!! Stick with it, as JUDY says things can only get better.
NAOMI, I think I mentioned that feeding twice a day has worked out soo well for me and it really eased transition into working. I think I would have been a total wreck going back to work and completely weaning all at once. I think once I settle back to work, I will think about weaning those two feeds...maybe when Sam is 2!!!! I get too damn emotional just thinking about it. :cry:
My dilemma, I want to TTC at some stage. Those of you with older children, are there any success stories of conceiving while BF?
RICHELLE, congrats on TTC, I don't know how I missed such big news.
JUDY, the book does mention regression but well done on sticking to it.
HAYLEY, I wish I had your guts re weaning. Love the pic of the both of you. Daniel has the cutest smile!
CATHY, Sam has 4 milk feeds and 3 solid meals. His solid meals are about 3-5 oz-breakfast he has fruit and prunes(to keep him regular), lunch, meat and veg, dinner veg.
TRACI and NAOMI-post pics when you have had your hair cut. I really need mine cut but need style ideas..
Must rave about my dh! :)  He read BW when I did and has been on board ever since. When we decided that we needed to stop doing night feeds, he handled all the night wakings. We now take it in turns if Sam needs settling and it depends on who needs to work the next day.
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 14, 2005, 19:35:26 pm
Hi Everyone,
Naomi pm'd me and let me know about this thread... I was afraid to pop in, I thought it was a pretty small group of you chatting away and I didn't want to interupt....

But I am here now and just want to introduce myself.

I'm Jody, 24 (25 next month) and I have 8 month old identical twin daughters. We are 7 hours away from my family, 3 hours from Dh's family (not that they help at all  :roll: ) so we are taking on the twins by ourself! We also have a pug named max- our 1st baby! We are currently building a new house and we should be moving in just after the girls 1st birthday ( I know we're crazy!)...
Other than that the girls are ona 4 hour EASY, sleep 730pm- 7am, and they are both Angels!!

I hope to keep up with the posts and I look forward to chatting,

Take care,
Jody
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 14, 2005, 20:49:24 pm
Roz-I have no idea about the DF as I'm still doing it.  Well-he wakes to feed but I'm still doing a night feed.  Good luck!

Hannah-love the pic.  She looks really LONG in that pic.  And weren't you just a touch worried about her falling off? :shock:

Ankie-I so hear you on the DH issue.  My DH offered to get Cole the other night for an 11pm waking and when I heard him wake again he was coming out of the spare room with him from sleeping on the futon :twisted:  We hadn't yet started pupd so I guess he just did what he thought was best to get him to sleep ( I had been guilty of similar actions in recent weeks).  Today he offered to settle him back after his 30 min. nap but I just knew Cole wouldn't have it.  My DH is similar to Judy's in that he would cave and do some patting/rocking or other form of accidental parenting.  Until he reads the book and understand WHY I do it this way I figure I'll do it myself.  Hopefully it won't take too many more days.

Cathy-What are your awake intervals?  Maybe he's ready to be up longer.  This type of thing can happen overnight.  Maybe try extending by 15 minutes for the first nap and see how it goes.  If he seems overly tired do quiet activities to keep him up.

Hayley-I wait an hour for solids but I'm thinking of doing it closer together.  I wait in the morning so DH can do breakfast.  Guess he'll either have to be up at 5:45 or forfeit that privelege.  It's his only quality time with Cole though so I hope he agrees to get his bum out of bed.

Jody-Welcome to our craziness.  Lucky you with your two angels :P   btw, I'm a bit confused.  The birth dates in your sig show your los born in may, but you say they are 8 months :?  :?  :?  Anyway, maybe i'm so tired I just can't do the math.

okay, i'm off to relax a bit during the catnap.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 14, 2005, 21:05:00 pm
Traci you need more sleep girl :) Jody's signature says MARCH 19/05 (so 05 is for the year not the month)  :)

I agree on the DH front.  My dh came in the room at 4.15am today and I just said very quietly "I don't want you to do any patting or rubbing or anything like that" so he stopped in his tracks and then left :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 14, 2005, 21:05:25 pm
Hi girls

Welcome Jody! 

Judy, stick with it, it sounds like you're doing a fab job.

Hayley, solids here just happen to work out about an hour after milk - breakfast because I get up and have a shower between BFing and getting breakfast, lunch and dinner are just timed in with Nathan's mealtimes at 12 and 5pm. 

Karen, re ttc, I really wanted to ttc about 9mths but still hadn't had my period and it didn't return until Nathan was 12mths old when he was down to one feed a day (even though he hadn't fed in teh night since 3mths).  You could get ovulation predictor tests though, since you could be ovulating anyway and just not now it?

Well Danielle's been sleeping through the night for the last week, so I'm hoping this time it is for real and not going to revert back after teasing me for a week!   :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 14, 2005, 21:22:51 pm
Hey Traci,

Nope, they're my March 19th girls.... can't believe all of our babes are going to be 1 in 4-5 months!!! CRAZY !

Jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 14, 2005, 21:27:37 pm
good lord, i am blind or very sleep deprived.  LOL  thanks Judy and Jody for pointing that out.  You'd think the ones with twins would be more tired than me hee hee hee.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 14, 2005, 21:53:05 pm
Welcome to the Group Jody!  Lucky girl with the twins being angels, and they are sleeping so well. Congrats :D

Great Pic Naomi

Yah!!!Kate for the 13 hours sleep...I can only hope and wish!

Traci - I'm not sure if Brady's reflux is improving or not, when they increase his meds, he decided not to take his medication for almost a week, so we have just found that mixing it with Pear juice and he will take it, so now I need to try and keep it into him before I know if he is going to get better yet.  We also have a GI Dr appt this week for a check up.  OK, so I got the "word" now...I'm with you I have been using that as an excuse for Brady's wake ups too, along with maybe reflux....but it may be just that, an excuse....he is chewing a lot, drooling a lot etc, but no rash, no fever, so I don't know.
Hey, and you have time to read??? Good for you, you go girl..... :wink:

Roz - I'm having trouble  dropping the DF as well, so I don't have any great advice yet....

OMG Hannah, what an adorbable pic....just love it!!!!!

Ankie...sorry you had a bad nite last nite...I agree 2hours of pu/pd is too long, I've been there, and I think its soooo exhausting.  Hope tonite is better for you.

Well after Brady's 45 minute nap today, he managed to have 1.5 hours this afternoon, which I then took the time to have an hour nap as well, boy did I need it.  We didn't get our walk in today though... :(

He's getting quite cranky right now, so I'm off to see if we can do an cat nap....he's in need of it I think.

bfn

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 14, 2005, 22:52:32 pm
Welcome Jody.  Your girls are sooo cute!  I love the avatar pic with the matching bumbos and sunglasses.  So fun, and lucky for you they are angels and sleep!  Jody and Judy both with twins...now that could be tough for some of the more sleep deprived moms :)

Ankie, hang in there.  You are a champ for going through that last night.  Dh sounds so much like my dh.  It's so easy to get frustrated when you are tired  and your child is screaming in your ear, as I am sure you know only too well.  I just wanted to say really try to take it one day/night at a time.  Don't think about school or anything else except helping her sleep right now.  Have you ever heard the expression "Don't borrow trouble?"  I have to repeat that like a mantra to myself every day.  To only deal with the situation at hand is hard enough.  You are doing so well.  It will get better.   Someone said I hope you're sleeping when she does...everything else can wait.  Get what sleep you can to help you stay on track for the night ahead.  Same plan for tonight? Or anything new?  Wish I had a great tip to share.  Hopefully Jo has helped.

Hayley such a cute picture of you and Daniel.  He looks so shiny and perfect :)!  How do you keep him looking so clean ...lol.  Sophie always has a smear of something on her face or a great big booger hanging out of her nose.  Sh still all out cries if I try to clean her off.  It figures, as neat freak as I am I'd end up with Pigpen for a child :)

Traci, yes I was afraid she would fall off, but I had to take the pictures (only two) before I moved her...it was just too funny.  She always has been long, 95th-100th percentile since birth.
I am sending hugs to you too for your nightime struggles.  Glad you are enjoying some peaceful reading time when you can...tel me more about these books??
And you too Holly and Judy!!! Gosh, lots of support here for moms doing pu/pd...
Kate...you are a brave woman for posting the too much sleep question on this thread at this moment...
 :lol:  :wink:
I am going in for a haircut myself tomorrow.  I just don't know if I can handle growing it out..it's just so short...way too many ugly duckling stages to go through before anything nice starts to happen.  I tried to grow it last year while pg...now THAT was really smart..here I was huge/bloated and with bad hair...:) Maybe I'll post a pic of that...sure to make even the sleep deprived moms laugh.
Take care ladies,
BTW loving the creative acronyms :)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 14, 2005, 23:02:57 pm
Hi everyone,

Nikki - great to hear Nathan's diet going well and Danielle is sleeping all night !! Halle slept overnight for 3 weeks but now it seems she is having the odd waking. It's not hard to put her back to sleep though so I am pretty happy with that. Haven't tried many finger foods yet but we went to IL's for tea the other day and MIL gave her a piece of rockmelon and she went very well with it. I am going to try steamed veges cut into the shape of chips this week.

Mel - we are going over to Margaret River next April - can't wait to see it !!! We have friends in the area who are getting married so we decided to do a trip over (looooonnnggg drive :lol: )

Hayley - we made the exact macaroni toy the other day at IL's because i forgot to take toys with me. DD loved it !! It was so funny when I read your post!

Jody - welcome  :) your dd's are so cute in those little glasses !!

Hello to everyone else and big hugs to everyone doing pu/pd i know it is so hard. I actually had more success not picking up. Just patting dd in the cot and stopping as soon as she stopped crying etc etc seemed to work quicker and cause less crying. She is spirited so I suppose the pu/pd just mad her very mad.

I think that is all.....

Cheers
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 15, 2005, 00:47:00 am
This thread sure does move fast!  I was here earleir today and there are already 3 new pages!!!  That's so great!

Karen:  One of my best friends just got pregnant while still breast feeding 4 times a day.  Her DD was 9 months when she got pregnant.  They tried for 2 months and then used an ovulation kit for a month and voila!!!

Traci:  Carter's awake time was always 2 hours until about 2 weeks ago when he started having shorter naps (1.5 hrs to 1hr 10mins to 1 hr).  I moved it to 2.5 hours of awake time and he seemed fine until he got sick last week.  Even now when I go to put him down after 2.5 hrs he seems so wide awake.  He rolls around in his crib, tries to play with me, claps his hands etc  It takes forever to just settle him enough to stop flailing his arms.  We just stopped swaddling last week as well because out of nowhere he started freaking out if his one arm was trapped.

I was reading an article today that said babies should double their birth weight by the age of 6 months!??  Did any of you actually have that happen??  Carter was 8lbs 13oz, 21.5in long at birth and at 6 months he was 16lbs, 25 3/4 in long which is not double his weight!   He is now 18lbs and 28in long!!!  Out of curiosity, how big are all of our March/April 05 babies???

I just wanted to say that I am impressed with all the pu/pd that is going on!  I am glad that there is someone who I can ask about it if needed!!! :lol:   With the way things are going, I am sure I will need it soon!!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 15, 2005, 01:12:14 am
Hi again, a few hours and a few pages later. Crikey.

Thanks for the nice comments about Daniel, I am lucky as he's a very smiley laughy baby, so much so I always get comments from other mums.

Jody, welcome to our madness......  :lol:

Birth weight versus now? Daniel was born 9lb 3oz and at 7 months he weighed ... oh, not sure, the books in his room and I don't want to disturb, that'll have to wait. Sorry.

We've had an appliance death in our family today, not an appliance I really want to live without. THE MICROWAVE!!! You don't realise how often you use it until it doesn't go. It went POOFFFF about 2 hours ago and already I've gone to use it 4 times, including wanting to reheat my coffee which inevitably goes cold before I finish drinking. And now we're on bottles I'm going to have to resort to boiling the jug and warming the bottle in that. Daniel likes it really warm too, so I guess it's going to take a while. We can't afford to go and buy another one, so we're going to borrow my MIL really old one about the size of a small TV! :lol: We won't be seeing them until the weekend though, so we'll have a few days without.

I gave Daniel his solids before his lunch bottle today and he gobbled up 3 cubes of food. Yay! That's more like it. Then he still managed a 200ml bottle about 30 mins later, and we were at a friends house, so he drank 'in public'. Things are definitely on the up and up.

Anyway, must go and finish making Daniel's food parcels.  :lol:

TTFN
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 15, 2005, 01:59:59 am
Birth weight vs current weight:

Kaia was 5lbs 11oz at birth and 14lbs at 6months

Hannah was 5lbs 15 oz at birth and 13lbs at 6months

Zoe was 6lbs 2oz at birth and 16lbs ??oz at 6months

Sarah was 7lbs 11oz at birth and about the same as Zoe at 6months so 16ish lbs.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 02:23:10 am
Cole was 7lb 13oz at birth and 16.25 lbs at 6 months.  He doesn't go for another check up until 1 year. Maybe i'll take him in just to get weighed though...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 15, 2005, 02:54:10 am
Hello Jody and welcome... I am familiar with your twins as I see their cute little beings on the Photo Gallery all the time. Thanks so much for sharing!

Arwyn was 8lbs 9oz at birth and 17lbs 6oz at 6 months. She didn't double her birth weight but I am not worried. She is currently in the 95-100th percentile in both length and weight according to the charts and they are based on formula babies. Arwyn is EBF.

Okay... Hayley... I truly tried to sleep when Arwyn slept but she slept a grand total of 60 min between the two naps today. As a result, we put her to bed at 5:40 pm. I started nursing then... fell asleep... woke up to one phone call, then another, then another... at the 3rd phone call, Arwyn woke up (off my breast which is unusual) and started screaming. And that, folks, has been the kind of day we've endured.

Okay... new plan... pu/pd until 10 pm... feed between 10 & 11... pu/pd until 4 hrs from last feed... feed if necessary and then pu/pd until morning. I realized yesterday that DH and I made her cry for 2 hours basically until I nursed her at 4 am. I am not so comfortable with that so... I am reverting back to the 4 hour time frame.

Oh... and I do expect a rough night. Arwyn crawled using a proper cross-pattern today  :D but of course, that means more development and more night wakings :roll: .

Will update tomorrow!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 15, 2005, 03:08:40 am
Well don't know what Danielle was at 6mths since her last well-visit was at 5mths and we don't have another one until 9mths.

She was 4kg (8lb13oz) at birth and at 5mths was 6.6kg.  She was still on the chart on the 50% line though, just a minimal weight gainer, so no worries.  She's chubby and content.  Will be interested to see what she is though.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 15, 2005, 03:18:26 am
Birth Weight vs now....

Brady was 5lbs 15oz at birth (born 4 wks early)
and weighed in at 16lbs 7oz, at six month check up


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005[/i]
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 03:37:45 am
Dh is working late again tonight so here I am again.

Ankie..good luck tonight.

I have a feeling we are going to be in the same boat with you soon...I can just feel it coming with the way things have been today and last night. 

We had big happenings here today...Sophie clapped!  :) She seemed so proud and just couldn't stop doing it all day long.  We had lots of visitors today so she got to show off for everyone.  She's such a ham.

She had a lot of trouble going down so we'll see what happens.

My taggie blanket finally came today!  I wanted to elt her sleep with it but I figured I'd wait another day or two.  She has been chewing on the blanket she sleeps under and it gets so gross...I am sure the taggie will too.
OK, Sophie was 8lbs 9oz or something...bad mom, I can't remember!  She was 16lbs even at her 6mo. check up.

Bec...so glad I can make someone laugh!  My friend's 3 year old son was over today and your post was on the computer screen and he was like "Look Mommy it's baby Sophia"  I thought that was funny.  I guess all babies pretty much look the same to a 3 year old :)

Wishing you all good nights tonight and a wink or two of sleep. (and days to others)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 15, 2005, 03:44:45 am
Brady had a lot of trouble going down tonite as well. He' s asleep now, so I'm off to try and get some rest too. It took an hour to get him down, then he slept for an hour and then woke for half an hour....here's hoping we have a good nite...

Night all :)


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 15, 2005, 03:45:17 am
Ah thank goodness for Hannah!!

Here I was thinking I was the only bad mum who doesn't remember what my child weighs - I KNOW he was 7lb 8oz at birth.  But at 6 months, I do not remember (and the Dr didn't write it in my book).  He looks healthy to me though so I'm not worried  :)  I'm fairly certain he would have at least doubled his birth weight though (he's a heffalumpa!!)

So we are going out tonight for dinner (with F).  I am PETRIFIED!  But I know this is my anxiety talking and really everything will be ok.  He's bound to be an angel, and if he isn't - well, what does it really matter right.  I really have to get over myself.

DS and DH had swimming lessons today - oh, how cute.  And what a great way to tire out the baby!!  We are heading into a long hot summer and Christmas at the beach ( :roll: don't even go there with the anxiety that is already causing me) so being used to the water will be a great thing.

Love to all
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 03:47:51 am
Glad I could help you out there Jo :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 15, 2005, 03:49:30 am
Hi ladies,
So when I started to post today it was at 83 pages, and the internet went down.  Then every time I tried to post again another page was added, and yes the internet was down! :evil:   So I've had lots of catch up reading that I will never be able to comment all on...but here goes.

First, SO SORRY I MISSED THE CHAT!  But, my mom surprised us and came over to watch Taylor so we could go to the movies :D   We had mexican dinner with margaritas :wink:  and then saw DERAILED.  Good movie-make all your DH's see it because it will stop them from ever thinking about having an affair!! :lol:  :lol:   So needless to say I had a good excuse for missing the chat...but I really did miss you guys.
 :?: Did I see in an earlier psot that someone got kicked out of here because of bad behavior?  What is all that about?

Taylor was 7.8 at birth and at 6 months she was 18lbs.  She doubled her birth weight by 4 months! :shock:   My little chubster :lol:

Updates in our house: Friday and Saturday she dropped her dream feed (meaning she didnt' wake up and we just went with it).  Like Cole, she has been waking for her "DF" for the last 2 months and it is quite frustrating because I feel like she is always feeding to sleep.  Anyhow, she slept till 6 am both nights and then quick feed and back to bed till 7:30.  Great huh?  Well last night she woke at 10 and 11 and would not go back down after 11, so I fed.  Actually DH and I didn't have the patience to do PU/PD because we were in the mood KWIM?!?! :wink:   After the date night we thought we woudl end it properly!  hope that is not too much info. for some.   :)
So we are going to wait until this weekend where she will officially be 7 months and start weaning the damned DF. 

Other than that all is okay.
I have included a couple of pics per Hannah's request :)

Richelle-congratulations on TTC!  I am so happy for you and will keep my fingers crossed.  These babes are so addictive aren't they?

Ankie-gosh I am so sorry and hope tonight goes better.  please keep us posted.  we love to be here for you.

Traci-hope the PU/PD is going better.
Judy-please give us an udpate on the regression.  Hang in there :wink:
Jody-Welcome!
Hayley-will have to try the macaroni toy...sounds great!  sorry abotu the appliance death :cry:
Becca-let us know what the sleep expert says.
Naomi-hope Riley is doing better and not giving you such a hard time.

I think that is all my brain can remember at this point.  Sorry for leaving anyone out!

Have a great night
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 15, 2005, 03:58:01 am
Wow Judy Kaia and Hannah were an awesome size for twins!!

Maisie was born 4lbs 14oz she is now close to 17lbs at 8 months
Makaylee was born 4lbs 7oz and is also the same weight as Mais 17lbs.

The Doc said they are in the 55th percentile for weight and the 95th Percentile for HEIGHT!!! ( they were 27 inches at 7 months!)


Heres to a good night sleep, we are battling 2 colds, 1 tooth coming in for Mak and 2 for Mais, we could be in for a rough night!

Jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 04:02:47 am
OK, yes I'm officially pathetic..I'm still here getting all excited every time someone new posts...

Just had to say it seems like most of our little ones are really tall/long...everyone in the 95-100%???? 

Alright, really, it's time for me to move on to the tv :)  MUCH more productive.
Night.
Andrea good to hear from you...pics didn't work.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 15, 2005, 04:05:01 am
sorry, here are the pictures.  one is at a wedding we went to recently and the other is from the pumpkin patch
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 15, 2005, 04:08:21 am
Hannah, yes, Taylor is long too.  She was 28 inches a couple of weeks ago...100th percentile.  I am 5'10" and DH is 6'1"
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 15, 2005, 04:13:57 am
Great Pictures Andrea, thanks for posting them.

I'm with you Hannah, I should be sleeping right now...lol..ok off to bed.






Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 15, 2005, 04:17:49 am
Hello!  Adorable pictures everyone.
Hayley-I do solids around 1hr after milk and sometimes 1/2 hours.  Ben is officially on a solids strike.  He refused all solids today. 
Kate-The amount of sleep sounds great!  Sometimes Ben has extra long naps and total sleep time after lots of outdoor time, stimulation and poor sleeping the day before.
Roz-We dropped the DF pretty easily here.  I didn't take time away in increments, Ben just seemed to drink less milk as days went by then we stopped cold turkey.  He had a few 45 minute early wakings in the am but they went away after a week.
Jo-good for you going out for dinner.  A triplet mom friend of mine always tells me to remember when I go out that your baby is safe, well fed and being loved while you are away and you are gaining so much by being away.  HTH
Ben was 8 1/2lbs 22 inches at 6 months he was 28 1/4inches and 20 lbs
I am currently getting in trouble for being on the computer too much with my cyber friends.  He says he is joking but his feelings are hurt that I am not paying attention to him while he is watching football.  ARGGGG :twisted:
Ben is having lots of trouble with different textures of food.  Green beans always make him gag and he has lately been having problems with the melting stars.  Any advice?  I am nervous to do any finger foods because he is gagging on stuff.  I was imagining today that he would never eat anything but milk because of his refusal to take any solids :cry:
I have figured out that TTC has something to do with pregnancy but what does it mean.
Happy days to you and lots of sleepies.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 15, 2005, 04:48:19 am
Macaire - ttc = Trying To Conceive.... but I'm not !!! Not yet anyway.... :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 15, 2005, 04:53:32 am
Whew, I've caught up on everybody.  You can't miss a day on this thread, it's like missing out on your favourite show!

Hi Jody, your LOs are too cute.  My girlfriend just had twins and the poor thing hasn't slept for months.

Traci - hee hee, you have Mommy Brain  :D

Hannah - Congrats to Sophie on clapping. 

Hayley - got to try the toy.  Right now Lo's fav toys are his socks.

Ankie - you poor thing.  I hope you'll have a better night tonight.  You're doing a great job and are an inspiration to others to never give up.  Just think how triumphant you'll feel when this developmental stage passes.

Lots of napping Mums today.  I too got a 1/2 hr in while Sol slept for 2.5 hrs :shock: I think its because he refused to nap yesterday and was up until 9:30 Saturday night.
You'd figure we'd all be well rested after a (long) weekend with DHs to help us out.  yeah right!  The extra child on Sat/Sun REALLY takes it out of me.

thanks for the DF info everyone.  Sol sounds alot like your LO maclaire so i'll try dropping it next week.

Weight - Sol was 9lbs at birth and is now 20 lbs 27 inchs @ 6 1/2 months.  Time for a new car seat!  I feel like he's too small for a front sitting one but the max says 20lbs.  Anyone else still using a rear seater?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 15, 2005, 05:03:45 am
ah hah!  After I read the explanation I remember what is happening to brain as I have little adult contact throughout the day!  Our house is having the TTC itch but I think we are going to hold off a little.  I had a nice little monthly visitor this morning.  (sorry tmi) Couln't believe it since I have been on BC since Ben was 1 month and solely BF and it didn't happen until today.  Hope that isn't a message letting me know that something might happen soon :roll: Okay off to bed.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 15, 2005, 05:07:26 am
I was almost to bed...
Roz-Ben is in the rear facing carseat that goes up to 40lbs.  He can't face front in it until he is a year old and a certain weight.  i couldn't lug around the other carseat any longer.  He has been in the new seat for about a month. 
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 15, 2005, 05:12:03 am
Sol, in USA it is the law that they have to be rear facing until they are at least 1 year old.  So we moved from the infant carrier kind to the convertibel type that can go rear facing under 1 year and then forward facing after 1 year.  We got the Britax Marathon.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 15, 2005, 05:35:06 am
Yep, rear-facing here until 1 yr as well.  Danielle is still in her capsule since she's still light enough for it, but we will soon fit the convertable seat in which will rear-face until 12mths.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 15, 2005, 06:25:05 am
Roz... we have Arwyn in a rear facing convertible car seat. We had to move her out of the infant car seat when she reached the length limit of 66 cm. Apparently, it is whichever limit they reach first... length or weight. Arwyn was only 16lbs when we switched, I think. Same regulations as everywhere else... a year old before they can face forward.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 15, 2005, 12:29:33 pm
Hmm my pedi doesn't measure K&H's lenght.  He always did with Sarah but I am assuming that with the two of them and all the tears that it just doesn't end up being that important.  But according to the charts put out by formula companies they are like 5th percentile for weight! :)  Z&S were like 95th or even off the charts at this age!!

DF - I don't do one with K&H but I dropped Sarah's when she was 7months old - just dropped it cold turkey one night and she never noticed.  I was nervous because it was a bottle she was getting and she drank a full 8oz.

Ok - things were perfect last night.  Fed at 6.30pm, bed by 7.30pm (they fell asleep feeding so I took advantage of not having to get up right away) and then fed Kaia at 6.20am and Hannah at 7am.  Kaia woke with a dirty diaper and didnt seem needing food but I didn't want to struggle with her to go back to bed at 6.15am.

Oh and as for the rough nights/days gals - can I just say the full moon is coming and I KNOW it makes a huge difference around here.  At least for the older girls - haven't noticed an effect yet on the littlest ladies here but let's face it, they've been a handful since day one and with the crazy nature of this house at times I probably just don't notice it.

Ok I gotta scoot... I fed Kaia at 6.15 and put her back to bed at 6.30am.  She was chatting and squeeling in there when I got Hannah up just before 7am and I told dh he may have to get up and get her while I fed Hannah.  Well now she's quiet and it's 7.30am...   nice and all but litte miss Hannah here is wide awake.. and I prefer to keep them on a fairly similar schedule.  Gotta see if she's sleeping.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 12:38:45 pm
Ohmy that was tough getting caught up!  It was a holiday here yesterday!

Roz - ROTFLMAO - I sooo know what you mean about the extra kid on the weekend - or 3 day weekends, plus I worked all weekend but had yesterday off and sent DH to the grocery store, while there he called me 7 TIMES :shock:  AND still forgot baby food (main reason for the trip) and milk......sigh......who raised these men?  MIL is here for a visit at the end of the month must inquire further!

Great pics everyone, DH took one of Sophie and I finally yesterday.  I was doing some picture work with Sophie's pic's and he made the comment that there are no pic's of the 2 of us and snapped a couple.

Ankie - I hope you had an OK night.  If not I reallyhope that Arwyn naps well so that you can rest.

Jody - Welcome, how cute are your los?  I love the names as well!

Holly - Hang in there!

Sophies Birth weight 9lbs8oz 56cm:shock: 6month weight 19lbs15oz 70cm

Andrea - I am going to get her a Britax Seat today, the marathon as well, i think that is it anyway.  She is still in her infant seat - BADMOMMY :oops: !  It is terrible i know her whole foot & up part of her calf hangs over the edge and it creaks and cracks when I try to carrry it with 'chunk the baby' in it!  It is better than some, this island is horrible for not strapping kids in, carrying them in the car ect.....

Anyway will attach pic - not the best but oh well! 

have a fab day everyone!  I am cleaning the house today so I am sure I will be here posting again soon!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 15, 2005, 12:42:05 pm
love your picture Richelle, too cute!



Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 15, 2005, 12:57:21 pm
Good Morning :D

I know it was posted before, but can someone refresh my memory for those of you freezing your food in cubes, can you tell me again, how many tbsp are in one cube...just wondering.  Thanks

Anyone else having trouble getting their lo to eat peaches?  Brady loves his solids...LOVES them...actually veggies more than fruit.....but hates peaches, having an awful time getting him to eat them....spits them out at me... :lol: makes funny faces etc.....

Well, I can't even give a detail outline of our night last night as we were up too many times to remember, I didn't get a chance to even write it down... :roll:  all I can say is I'm going on about 2 hours sleep and not in a row, all over the place, 15min here or there etc.  Sorry just needed to vent a little. Last night was very hard :(

And I have a very unhappy boy to say the least now. It sure shows.

Hope you all had a better night. :)

ttfn

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005[/i]
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 15, 2005, 13:15:18 pm
Wow, we have lots of momma's up early on the computer!! I will have to tell DH that I am not the only one so he will stop harrassing me about it!!

Holly:  Sorry you had such a tough night   :(  ... hopefully you will get some naptime today. I think there are 2 tbsp per food cube.  I know what you mean about peaches!!  Carter loves everyhting I have given him but peaches!  I have given him the jarred kind and even ones I made myself and he still doesn't like them!!  Weird!!

Roz:  We are still using a rear seater too *bad momma here*  He is way too long for it (the seat says it only goes to 27 inches)

Richelle:  Very cute pic!  She sure looks like a cuddle bear!!!

Andrea:  Our families are just about the same height!!  I'm 5ft10in, DH is 6ft2in and Carter is 28 and something!!

Well, it is breakfast time for Carter (apples and oatmeal today I think) so I will be back later!!

Hope everyone has a great day ... and lots of long naps!!!  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 13:37:19 pm
Roz, Cole is in a Britax Marathon.  I didn't realize it was law in Canada to have him rear facing up until a year..I just did it by choice.  It take up a LOT of space rear facing.  Only small people can sit in the front passenger seat now.  Our infant seat (Peg Perego) was only good to 20lbs or 26 inches.

Holly-so sorry about your rough night.  Lets aim to meet up tomorrow...you need some sleep.
Here is some solid food info from BWSAYP, page 149

How Much Solid Food Equals One Ounce of Liquid?

1 cube= 1oz
3tsp = 1 Tbsp = 1/2 oz
2Tbsp= 1 oz.

HTH

wow-you know when I get on here and there's lots posted that the thread has been busy!  hee hee

here is our night.

5:45pm sleep, no waking until feed-yay
10:05pm feed, no waking until the magic hour
1:50am pupd for 20 min, left him, asleep by 2:15
2:30 woke up again :shock: pupd 10 min, left him, asleep by 2:45
up for day at 5:40.

He only takes one boob in the morning now so at least I know for sure it's not hunger at night so that's a relief.  I also didn't give any tylenol or anbesol.  I think he's grabbing my hands to suck and not to bite.

My only issue is that he calms fairly quickly but then it becomes a game.  he climbs up, i PD, he climbs up, I PD.  That's why I end up leaving.  I give him 3 minutes and if he doesn't quiet down I go in again.

So, not bad, getting better.  His crying actually woke DH this time.  Would you believe he'd slept through the last two nights :shock:  :evil:   he came out to help but said no sense both of us being tired in the morning.  And when I went to get him for breakfast he got his bum out of bed :D

okay, gotta go shower.  Miserable day here in Toronto...might go to the mall (you're welcome to join me holly if you feel you need to get out-I'm going to scar. town though as they have covered parking).  I have a baby shower on saturday so i have to go pick out some cute clothes!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 13:47:07 pm
OH Holly - So sorry about your night, please vent all you need to, it has to get better right?  Just keep at it and stay consistent, Brady will catch on before you know it!!

Well, I have a DH Rave & Rant!! 

RAVE:  Yesterday morning (a holiday so he was home for the day) when I was rolling out of bed to go get Sophie he said, no stay in bed and sleep in, I will go get her!  What a guy, so i say to him, when it is time for her breakfast there is a partially peeled apple in the fridge, peel part of it and grate it in her cereal.  I use the same apple for a few days so on the unpeeled parts i put lemon juice. 

RANT:  I woke at 730 to crying, sputtering, then puking...I said forget it don't force her just give her some more milk, went back to bed.  Thought later on that was weird she LOVES her cereal, hmmm maybe it is her t%^$@#?  This morning I get the apple out and realized that he hadn't peeled a new part of the apple but grated all the yucky bits saturated in lemon juice :shock: !  Poor Sophie - no wonder!  I called him and we had a good chuckle but  once again....sigh.....men!

Haven't got very far on the house cleaning yet heehee, well i sorted the laundry that is a start right.......?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 14:00:02 pm
Traci - we posted at the same time.  Your night sounds really promising, way to go Cole!!  AHHH what would I give to go to a mall.......have fun!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 15, 2005, 14:20:35 pm
Oh Holly sounds like an awful night!  {{Hugs}} try to nap when Brady naps today just to survive!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 15, 2005, 14:25:32 pm
Traci sounds like a successful night with Cole!! yay!!

Richelle - oh my!! men eh??  I know my dh never seems to hear my detailed instructions.  I used to make him repeat them back to me (after once giving Zoe a bottle and then heading out of the house leaving him with instructions to give her the bottle in FOUR hours if I wasn't back - turns out he gave it to her 20 MINUTES later and then claimed not to have heard me!!  :roll: )
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 14:29:34 pm
richelle-I forgot to mention-what a great pic of the two of you!  you look so healthy and vibrant with your tan.  Unlike us pasty northerners!  Sophie's such a cutie.

Jo-good on you for getting out of the house!  Have you gone yet?  I would think so.  It must be the middle of the night there now :roll:   I'm trying to remember the time difference.  If 9pm Sunday here is 2pm Monday there (or thereabouts) then it's 2am or so.  Hope I got that right.  Regardless, let us know how it went.

Andrea-Cole seems somewhat disinterested in taking the second boob now, even at 10pm.  It takes him a minute or so to latch...so I'm hoping I'll experience the same as you.  I'm thinking that if I get the middle of the night feed sorted out then maybe he'll just become a better sleeper and be able to soothe himself through the 10pm one as well.  by the way Andrea-if you posted all that by memory...then you need LESS sleep.  So not fair.  I have the worst memory ever.  I have alzheimers on both sides of the family so I'm dreading my future :cry:  Also-please let us know the moment your website is up.  I've got two friends having babies, one december, one feb, and would love to get them gifts from your collection.

Did I mention to you guys Cole refused the bottle again yesterday?  It was all formula this time.  He did take 1.5 oz. when I poured it into his sippy cup though.  I think then he realized it wasn't water and refused any more.  Oh well.

OOH-I've been meaning to do the macaroni toy.  Not sure I have a suitable container though.  Anyone tried the rice in a prescription bottle yet?  I just finished our rice the other night, d'oh!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 14:59:18 pm
Here I am again!!  I have put in my second load of laundry and emptied the dishwasher, time for a break lol, i won't get the house cleaned by next week at this rate!

I forgot to ask earlier if any of your LO's have stopped burping after feeds?  The last 2 nights Sophie will not burp after her bedtime bottle.  we have dropped the catnap so she is pretty tired at bedtime so maybe she is that relaxed?  Last night I tried for more than 5 minutes.  This AM after her 1st bottle no burp, weird or normal?  She doesn't semm to get gas and sleeps through so I guess I am worrying about nothing.  Does anyone know when you stop trying to burp babies?

LOL Judy gotta 'em! and may I say congrats on the progress with the twins, well done!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 15, 2005, 15:04:01 pm
Hi everyone  :D  Enjoyed the chat the other night (for the little bit that I could stay for) - was working all day yesterday and had much to catch up on!

Welcome Jody, I've enjoyed looking at the pics of your twins on the photo page, nice to have you on our thread as well  :D

Ankie - Hang in there, sounds like things are rough at your house.  So much going on with these LOs, too much for them to sleep at times. 

Holly - Hope things get better soon for you.  Having no sleep is the worst. 

Nikki - Glad to hear all is going well with Nathan's new diet.

Naomi - When do you start the new job?  Soon, right?  I know you mentioned it the other night.

Hannah - love the couch pic, it was me who asked the other night on the chat.

Richelle - Sophie is such a cutie.  Love the red hair!  And leave it to DH to give the baby yucky fruit.  You should tell your MIL, I bet she'd yell at him for that (I know mine does whenever DH does something stupid like that.)  Oh and congrats on the TTC!  We fit in the category of not actively trying (in terms of charting or anything like that), but we're not doing anything to prevent it either.  I have to be on meds to make me ovulate when I got PG with Katie (probably TMI, sorry) so I'm not expecting anything to happen at least until I'm done BF. 

Roz - we too have Katie in a convertible carseat rear facing (I just checked on the law, it's until the baby is one year AND 20 lbs that they have to be rear facing.) 

Let's see - Katie was 7 lbs at birth and was 14 by about 4 months - she's a little porker.  I'm small (5'3") but DH is nearly 6'4".  Katie eats a ton these days, somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 oz of baby food, plus probably a good 5-6 tbls of cereal and BF 4x a day.  On the days when she goes to day care, she's drinking about 12 oz of EBM between her two middle feeds which are her smaller ones. 

We had a flu shot this morning :cry: , so someone is a little fussy right now.  Traci, it's nasty here too, the mall sounds great.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 15, 2005, 16:09:50 pm
richelle you hottie!!, so good to see a pic of you.
I saw one of you Jody on the pg boards, man, I think it is something about the bw plan, it seems to attract all the hot mums, what a bunch of milf's...lol
Erin, my job starts on nov.28th, so the countdown is on.
I think I am going to wing it on the bf for a while, I don't have the guts to go cold turkey, so I think I will work it into our daily life and go from there.
I just wanted to pop on and post about richelle's pic.
Oh yes, as for birth wieghts Vs 6mth weights.
Jay was 9lb 4oz at birth, I think he was around 19lb at 6mths
Riley was 8lb 15oz at birth and she was about 18lb at 6mths
Well that is me for now,
TCFNMFL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 15, 2005, 17:14:19 pm
Weather is pretty lousy here too!  I thought I would just pop onto the internet quick before I head out to the mall!!!  It seems like we all have the same idea about the mall!  It is a perfect day for that!

I am feeling a little better about Carter's naps as his first nap today seemed to be back on track!  He slept an hour and a half for the first time in almost 2 weeks!  I was so excited.  I didn't get to nap much myself because my ears were glued to the monitor!!  :(   Every little noise and I was straining to hear if he was waking up ...  When he finally did get up, I noticed his whole back was soaked with pee ... which makes me think he might of even slept longer if he hadn't pee'd out of his diaper!  Here's to hoping he is officially back to his old routine!  Now we just have to get rid of this pesky cold!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 17:15:41 pm
Jeez, thanks for the compliments Naomi..blush..blush, I hate my pic's as I am still wanting to lose the baby chub so thanks, very sweet and I must say that ditto to you and all the mom's here who really got it going on!!  :wink:

Hannah - Was it Sophie who is clapping?  Very fun, must be so cute!!

Erin - My husband is ginger - I am going to post a pic of him and Sophie, he would probably kill me if he knew I was putting his pic on the web, heehee!!

I plan on letting MIL see DH inactiopn and it should be enough for a scolding or two!!

OHHH and my brother got engaged over the weekend - very good news!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 17:19:26 pm
OK you girls are making me feel so much better for my night time lurking last night...I mean really, for all the back and forths this morning you might as well have been chatting :)

Gorgeous pics...lol about the milfs naomi...now that's a baaaad acronym...but quite humorous.

Definately feeling your pain about the dh's and instructions.  Every time I leave Sophie with dh I explain over and over again.  Even when I am right here...I feel like such a back-seat driver sometimes when he is feeding her especially.  No wonder he rarely offers to do a meal....he has to listen to my commentary on every bite...but seriously I feel like if I didn't he would do something like Richelle's yucky apple incident.  But then I figure hey, these lo's are going to have to make their own relationships with their fathers eventually anyway and just like she has to put up with my shortcomings (shortcomings? Do I have shortcomings???)  She will have to put up with her daddy's too. 

Richlle, as far as burping goes, she's kind of done with the over the shoulder burping but I just sit her up and she usually let's loose and seems quite proud of herself for it these days....HTH :)

The mall does sound so good.  Traci and Holly have fun...or Holly get some sleep if you can.
Yay for Cole's good night. 

I have to check my car seat now...She's still in the infant kind which before she was born I said I would never use ha ha...I thought they were silly and that I would rather have her in a sling or something...so for about 3 months everywhere we went I carried her in a sling, even into the grocery store...what a kook I was!  Anyhow, now of course I will be super sad to see it go.  I love just popping her out of the car and into the grocery cart etc. Hmmm I bet she really is too big now. 

I'm finally getting my hair cut today yay!!!  I am going to ask my hairdresser if there is anything we can do to help it out so that I can start growing it.  I know that seems a little werid to get it cut in order to grow it, but it is sooo bad right now...I acually cut the sides and back myself with dh's razor cutter about 3 weeks ago because I had to cancel my cut appt.  Craziness. 
I am dropping dd off at MIL's getting the hair done then going to a school inservice deal for 2 hours this evening.  Come home put the lo to bed then go for a run with my friend....by the time I check in with you guys again there'll be like 10 more pages !!!  :) It IS like my favorite show.
OK, gotta go shower and check the car seat
 :oops:
TTFN
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 17:22:06 pm
Cute dh picture Richelle.  Sophie is absolutely adorable!!!  Congrats to your bil (?)  Now go get some housework done!!! :lol:
Enjoy the mall everyone!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 17:41:49 pm
Richelle-forgot to mention that I stopped actively burping Cole around 5 months.  I saw another mom at a party feed her lo to sleep *gasp* and pop him in his seat and inquired why she didn't burp.  She just said he burps when he needs to.  So like Hannah, I just sit him up and he'll burp if needed, which is about 80% of the time I'd say.

Okay, pic of me will wait til I get my hair done on saturday.  I wanted to share two others though.  An adventurous one of Cole's antics and one of his room.  I'm really proud of his nursery so I thought I'd share.  DH picked the pattern (out of one of my scrapbook magazines!) and I chose the colours.  I'm going to try to attach a different way than usual...not sure it will work.  I didn't like it...back to Photobucket...i think i shrunk them too much...oh well.

Oh-Cole had a one hour nap this morning.  I carried him in the sling for 5-10 min. first.  And he's going on an hour for this one.  YAY!  Think he needed longer wind down after all.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/adventurous.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/room.jpg)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 15, 2005, 17:45:28 pm
Hello everybody... busy morning on the thread!!

We had a wake every 2 hour or so night. I stuck to my plan until 4 am where I gave in and nursed her. My problem with nursing in the middle of the night is that I fall asleep! (sitting up, no less...) Anyway, she was up for the day at 6 am. She fought me like a madwoman for her morning nap although she was yawning and rubbing her eyes. So... I very consciously decided to nurse her to sleep and to sleep with her. She only slept for 45 min.  :roll:

Anyhow... will see how the rest of the day goes. We are headed out to swim lessons today... right when she is supposed to be going down for a nap.  :roll: We'll play it by ear I guess.

Richelle... love the pictures! I asked DH if I could post a picture of him and Arwyn and he flatly said no. Maybe I will manage to sneak one on anyway. About the DH rave and rant... we have similar happenings over here. I like to joke that all women go to the same "wifey/mommy school"... apparently, all DHs go to the same "DH/daddy school".

Burps... same as Sophie... sit her up and she let's 'em rip.

Hannah... still have our slings after a similar philosophy to yours. We still use them when we don't want to take the stroller. Also, yesterday when Arwyn refused to nap, I carried her in it and walked around the house for 30 min. Didn't help, mind you, but at least I felt like she got some rest.

Traci... Congrats on the great night!!! Send some sleep over here!!!  :wink:

Holly... Hang in there. I am in the same boat and wish I had your determination. Nap when Brady naps... if possible. I hope you have a better night.

Naomi... MILFS? Need a mommy-brain translation please. Wow... 2 weeks until your first day! How time flies, eh?

oh GAWD, gotta go... Arwyn was crawling towards me and bonked her head on the edge of the computer desk! BBL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 15, 2005, 17:49:29 pm
k...milf is a term that dh and his buddies use, and one that teddy teased nikki with.
I apologise if anyone is offended, but I promise it is all in good fun.
milf...mom I'd like to....ahem. Can't put the word it will be censored, but I promise it is a compliment as to how hot we all are.
Man I really hope I haven't dug myself in with this one :oops:  :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 18:01:11 pm
no worries naomi, i figured someone would need help on that one.  i only learned it about 8 months ago.  so nieve :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 18:17:11 pm
HI

I'm baaaaaaaaack....

Well i have the floors and the bathrooms left and the laundry is an all day - or week progression...

anyway back to the t%^^$& word, I was cleaning and had Sophie on the bed as she is clingy today, I have to be in sight.  I started palying with her on the bed and as she was laughing I noticed teeth #3 & 4 on the bottom are sprouting through the gum and then #5 & 6 next to where her front teeth will be :shock:  :?  no wonder she is clingy, jeez talk about getting a mouthful all at once.  I have given her some tylenol and she is playing happily on the floor with a MILK BOTTLE FILLED WITH MACARONI!  Great idea Hannah (I think it was Hannah)  :oops:  - if I am mistaken!

Erin I think Katie was in the same boat a couple of weeks ago?  Didn't she sprout a bunch of teeth all at once?

TTFN
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 18:33:27 pm
LOL about the ilf business...
OK just wrestled the convertibles carseat into the car.  What would I do without you ladies.  She had grown out of the other one!!!!  Never even thought to check.  Funny how the lo is growing and learning faster than I am most of the. OK shower time.
Gorgeous nursey Traci...you guys are sooo creative.  You don't even want to see ours, it's a nursery/6year old's bedroom....boy/girl...couldn't really do much :)
Later kids.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 18:50:53 pm
Hannah-please be sure to have your installation inspected on your carseat.  Apparently 80% or so of seats are installed improperly :shock:
You should have seen the girl at the store installing ours.  she sat right on it, shoving her back into our roof to be sure it was secure enough.  just want you to be cautious.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 15, 2005, 19:03:03 pm
Thanks Traci, I will do that.  I think I can stop at the Fire Stattion on my way out of town today.
I can't believe I have been driving around for a month in a too small car seat!!!
Ach.  Thank goodness once again for this site!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 15, 2005, 20:24:27 pm
Goodmorning, what a busy night you've all had. Holly, hang in there, it can only get better. I know we keep saying that, but it will. At least you're in the right place for support/venting/ideas. Retail therapy and coffee works a treat!

Traci, I love the photo of Cole, it's amazing to think he's climbing like that. And his room is great. One day when we have our own house again I'll be able to do things like that, for now it's just cool cloud curtains and stick up winnie the pooh decorations.

Richelle, you've inspired me to go and do my housework. Since changing our lounge around in the weekend (did I mention that?) we've got loads more room, but I've found lots of bits on the floor that were previously hiding under furniture.  :oops: And have you noticed how messy kitchen floors get now????? Or is it just our house?

Daniel slept from 6.30pm - 4.50am! Yay, no getting up at all during the night. I tried PUPD at 4.50am, but he was hungry. So tried boiled water first, nope, not interested. So gave him 100mls formula then put him back in bed and he went back to sleep. Yay again! We got him up at 7am, I think he was awake just before we went to him. He's just gone down now at 9am without a peep. I gave him another 140mls when he got up at 7am, then his breakfast of apple and banana pretty much straight after. He at a normal amount for him, so that's okay. I'll feed him solids again today before milk to see how we go.

I told DH about how a few of you have tried the macaroni/milk bottle idea, he laughed and said I should market it! I think Daniel likes it cos it's big, but light. All the rattles are small. I took a photo of him in his JJumper with his milk bottle today, so I"ll download and put it up here later.

I can't believe Sophie has so many teeth. That's awesome. It must make her look so 'grown up'. Daniel still hasn't sprouted any!

Burps - Daniel hasn't burped before bed since he was really little, like about 6 weeks. But now he's on formula I'm making sure he does. Still really only does 1 or maybe 2. During the day on b/milk I'd sit him up, if he did within a couple of mins great, if he didn't we carried on without one.

Better go, shower/housework etc to do.

Oh, quick question, those babies on full formula (ie no B/milk) how much do they have in a day? Daniel seems to want about 1 litre total. Is this about right?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 15, 2005, 20:25:31 pm
Woke up this morning to 5 pages!!!!! :shock:
Have just caught up but now cannot remember a thing!
LOL on ilf, Naomi. I only learnt the term about 2 months ago and had to ask dh what it meant. He is used to me asking ditzy questions!
Gorgeous pics. Love the tan Richelle!
Sam has been in a rear facing convertible Evenfo Tribute carseat for about 2 months now as I got sick of lugging the other one round and his little feet and calves were sticking out the end. The pamphlet thing says that rear facing seats are safer (makes sense) and to keep them in it for as long as possible.
Jo, i hear you on being nervous about going to the beach for the summer hols. I am about to book our summer hol and I am nervous thinking about it. No more cosy, romantic little bed and breakfast's for us. I think that we will have to pack his whole nursery to take with us.
Great nursery Traci! Well done on the good night and I cannot believe how mobile Cole is!
Hang in there Ankie.
There is no sign of teeth here. Anyone else's los have no teeth still? Still Sam manages to gum his finger foods. Quite funny watching him!
Holly, Sam seems to hate peaches too! I think it is because the peaches are quite tart. I haven't pushed it. Will try again in a month or so.
Andrea, will you ship all over the world. Let us know when the website is up and running.
Rice in prescription bottle was a hit! Will have to try macaroni in milk bottle.
Another toy idea: empty tissue box filled with scarfs knotted together. Sam loves the box and also pulls and pulls at the scarfs.
Must try and get a nap in..working evening shift today.
ttfn
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 15, 2005, 20:28:13 pm
LOL Hayley, we posted at the same time! :D  :D
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 15, 2005, 20:36:36 pm
OMG, you ladies are busy!!!  Well, 45 minutes later I have caught up...and I didn't even go anywhere!  But, I agree with Hannah (I think) totally like a favorite show.  Let's see how Arwyn/Cole/Brady/everyone else did last night.  I am cheering for you pu/pd'ers!  Btw, I totally have jinxed myself with my silly sleep stress.  Lot of shorter naps and less night sleep in the last 48 hours or so.  Serves me right!   :lol:

Richelle:  Loved the pic.  Sophie looks just like her cute mama!   8)

Traci:  Such a cool nursery!  Mil did something similar in her nursery, but (shhhh) I like yours better.   :lol:

Jody: So glad to have you...I love checking out the Twinsicles in the photo gallery, too.  My friend is pg with twins and now I always think of them as the Twinsicles, too.  Too cute! 

Ryan was 9 lbs. at birth and about 20 at 6 months. I wouldn't worry, Roz.  I know Ryan was over that, but since they're so long and their feet hang over the side of the scale, I think he weighed even more.  Now that he can sit up, it'll be more accurate, I'm sure. 

What else?  With all those pages, I'm sure I forgot something.  Sorry!!!   :oops:   

Got Ryan's first Christmas presents today.  I ordered them from a toy fair at mil's preschool...10% off and all proceeds go to charity.  Can't beat that!  But, now I have to wait so long to give them to him.   :?   I'll hide them from myself and then I'll probaby forget all about it!

We made 4 bottle things a few weeks ago, after someone suggested it:  rice, popcorn (unpopped), pull tabs from soda cans, and bells and pom poms.  They all sound so different...Ryan likes to move one around, then another, and back to the first, etc.  They are good motivators for crawling, too.   :)

That's it for now...I'll have to check back tonight so I don't get so behind again!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 15, 2005, 20:42:13 pm
Oh here are all of us Kiwi's loggin in for the day LOL!

Andrea, a few pages back - no, noone got kicked off the website.  But maybe people are referring to Teddy?  She just requested to be deregistered from the site.

I also haven't burped Danielle for quite a few months, she just lets it out as soon as I sit her up, if there's one there is, if not she's not bothered by it.

I got my hair cut the other day, a bit shorter than what I was planning on, but it'll give it a few months to grow out and not need cutting.  It's not horrible, just a bit of a short bob.

Loving all the pics everyone!  And all the milfs (Naomi  :wink: ).

Karen, no teeth here either and no signs of them.  Nathan only popped his first two around 7-8mths, so who knows.

Hayley, I hate the gritty feeling on my kitchen floor too, only I'm pretty slack about sweeping it up (prop needs doing daily). :oops: Especially when Nathan's been doing science experiments with pantry items.  :roll:

Right, better go get myself sorted out and we're off for a playdate.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 15, 2005, 21:40:08 pm
Good morning everyone,

I wasn't going to check until tonight - lucky I did because I had three pages to read :lol:

Love the pictures everyone they are so great ! I will have to get some on myself when i work out how to do it - I am so techno-challenged :roll:

Judy - just wondering - are you putting the girls back to bed early in the morning and then waking them later? Halle is waking up at 5.30 so I am not sure what to do because I want her wake up time to be around 6.30. This morning she was up at 5.30 - yawning, rubbing eyes at 7.50 back to bed -now it's 8.40 and she is awake again  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Naomi - LOL at milf !!! I don't think you will offend anyone on this thread - everyone is pretty cool 8)

Jo - How was your night out and where did you go?

I am freaking out at the infant seat thing - I have a convertable one that is suitable from newborn to about 4yrs (i think) It is rear facing until they weigh more than 8kg so I have had it forward facing for a while now.  :?

Ok everyone, can you make this sound?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

now try to make the sound with the back of your throat instead of your lips - kwim?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

now - can you do that for 20mins??????????????

HALLE CAN !!! several times per night  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 15, 2005, 22:01:24 pm
Bec    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 15, 2005, 22:32:48 pm
Richelle - yup, it was Katie who went from 2 teeth to 6 teeth in about a week and a half a little bit ago (I just couldn't figure out what was wrong with her either before they all appeared!). 

Naomi - LOL about the milfs (and yes, I too had to have DH explain that one to me a few months ago as well). 

Traci - love the nursery - very creative.

Bec - I know what you mean about the sounds - Katie is now grinding her teeth together (the two that are actually long enough to grind) - nasty noise it makes!

2 questions for everyone:
1) What CDs/music do you like to play for your LOs?  We have a few Dan Zanes CDs that I LOVE (if you haven't heard of him, he's great - so enjoyable to listen to for Mom and Dad as well as Katie).  I also just bought a bunch of Baby Einsteins that I like, but I'm always looking for more.

2) On a serious note, what kind of car seats do you have (not the infant base, but the one they are growing into (or have already grown into)?  I have a Cosco/Eddie Bauer one and I'm having these horrible guilt pangs that I didn't buy the top of the line $300 Britax one that I didn't know existed when I registered.  Some background - I've been in 5(!) car accidents in the past 5 years - none were my fault, wasn't even driving for 3 of them (those weren't the drivers' faults either), was seriously hurt in one, mildly injured in one, and came out of the others fine (I do consider myself very lucky in that).  So, am I being neurotic?  Do I have a point worrying about this?  How much do all of you think about this?  I think I just need to hear from other people. 

Thanks ladies!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 22:58:56 pm
Erin-I have the Britax Marathon as mentioned above.  The salesperson explained to me that although some of the other seats go higher in weight restrictions the kids often outgrow them in height.  I justified the extra expense in that Cole will be in the seat until he is 3 or 4 years old.

If you are happy with how your seat works then I'd say stick with it.  Some complain that Eddie Bauer/Cosco straps are difficult to fasten, twist a lot etc.  Like I said to Hannah above, no car seat is worthy of any value if not installed properly and the child is not buckled in.  One complaint of the Britax is that the lever to undo the straps in hidden under a measely velcroed piece of fabric.  If you look at consumer reviews people comment their children can reach it, pull on it and loosen their straps.  I mentioned this where I bought our seat and the women simply said "if they are strapped in as tight as they should be then they wouldn't be able to reach it"  Brilliant!

For those that may not know, there should only be 1 fingers worth of space at the chest.  You are essentially making your child "one" with the seat.  If there is too much give they will get whiplash or other such injuries in the event of a crash.

Do any of you move your seat from car to car?  I have a girlfriend who doesn't own a car, so she has to install her seat in cabs, friends cars etc.  I explained this at the store and the women looked at me like I had two heads.  A good installation should take an experienced person at least 10 minutes.  I can't imagine someone doing that hopping in and out of a cab.  I can post a pic of my installation tomorrow if anyone is curious.

what I'm trying to get at is that you could have a $1000 seat and it won't help your baby one bit if not installed well. 

FYI, we installed our infant seat ourselves.  I took it out before she could see how it had been done.  She simply commented that it couldn't have been in tight enough because there should have been a huge indent in the leather.

i'll get off my soapbox now. I hope I haven't scared anyone.  After learning about this it is something I feel very strongly about.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 23:04:14 pm
I wanted to leave that post separate  :wink:

I have a couple of things.  First, I am going to have to move bath to the morning.  I can't believe he just went to sleep after the wrestling match we just had.  I am exhausted!  I had to diaper him standing up.  If I want him lying down now I'd have to forcefully pin his arms down with my feet.  I change him on the floor in between my legs otherwise there is just no restraining him.

Also, I've wanted to post this for a while. Do any of you "hear" your babies when they aren't making any noise.  Like when you're in the shower, down in the basement doing laundry and forgot the monitor, doing dishes?  I think I'm going completely mental because I swear I hear Cole crying when I'm doing these things.

On a positive note, he had three good naps today, all one hour long.  I really want to get rid of the catnap, but this is working so i'll leave it alone.

don't be surprised if i'm back here later girls :P
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 15, 2005, 23:10:38 pm
hi girls!!

it's been a couple of days since i posted and i think about 10 pages later....i think i got mostly caught up.  I don't get to be on here nearly as much as when DH isn't home! :shock:   I miss my little addiction!! 

Erin-we also have the same convertible carseat as you and I don't think you need the most expensive one to be the safest.  As long as they are fitted properly and strapped in properly.  Up here you can go to you fire dept. on scheduled days to get it checked out.

My question: does teething cause diarrhea???  Jack has gone from being completely bunged up to having diarrhea! :shock:   He has been pulling "ryans" left and right!  He just had a major poopy blow-out that went all the way up his back to his neck and down his legs! :shock:   I think I got the better job of cleaning Jack off vs. DH having to rinse out his poopy clothes!  GROSS!!!  Jack is starting to cut his top front teeth-they are bugging him way more then the bottom ones did. 

Traci how do you use photobucket again to post pics??  I've been trying to post one of myself and I can't figure it out anymore.  I love your nursery...so colorful

Hayley-Jackson eats probably 25 oz of formula in a day-not sure what that is in mls sorry.  He eats 4 bottles and 3 solid meals.

i gotta try and stay caught up...it's too hard to read so many pages and then remember all that is going on.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 15, 2005, 23:15:21 pm
traci-i totally agree with what you said about the carseat--it took DH and I about an hour to get installed properly with me sitting on top of it.  I was having issues with tightening our Cosco carseat straps but have finally figured it out so that I can tighten it properly.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 15, 2005, 23:16:22 pm
Hi Everyone,

Well, we had our night out last night.  I probably made it sound like a big deal (well, it kind of was because I haven't been out an night with Fraser since he was about 6 weeks old).  We went to DH's cousin's house (CIL??  :lol: ).  He and his wife have a DS 1 month older than Fraser.  We are very close and we catch up with them regularly.  We go there during the day, or they come here days and evenings.  So they invited us for dinner and I decided that we would try it.

So we drove through peak hour to get there and it took about an hour.  Fraser napped in the car for about 20 minutes after crying most of the trip (his new trick  :roll: ).  When we got there he ate his evening solids and then the boys had they bath together (so cute!!)  I gave Fraser his final feed and, although he was drowsy, he wouldn't go off to sleep in the porta-cot (pack-n-play).  I was with him almost an hour before I got him down (held him to sleep), he then woke after 10 minutes or so and DH went and held him for a couple more minutes and then put him back down.

He was ok from there on until we left, cried a bit when I transitioned him into the car but slept, was fine again when I transistioned him into his cot and he fell asleep.

He was then awake at 1.30 (I fed), 3.30 (I fed at 4) and 6.  So I would have to say not the most successful outing.  I am in no hurry to do that again (and now I dread Christmas even more).  Anyway, that's my sob.

Ankie - I am so sorry last night was no improvement.  Keep working on those plans but remember to try and keep consistent as much as possible.

Holly - Hugs.  Take inspiration from the mums who have had success

Nikki - I am SO SAD to hear that Teddy has asked to be de-registered.  I loved reading Teddy's perspective on things, I thought she made a lot of sense.  I know you are friendly with Teddy so if you are still in contact with her please tell her that, although I never "spoke" to her, I will miss her opinions very much.  I hope her departure is not permanent.

Right-o.  Fraser is down having an early nap, was very hard to settle.  I am working from home today so I should go and attend to some of that (although it's a little like Richelle and the housework, you can be guaranteed that I will be lurking for most of the day!!)

Bye all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 15, 2005, 23:20:03 pm
boy, it's a good thing i have nothing to do LOL

Micky-add a picture to your album by clicking on the Browse button and selecting a pic off your pc.  Hit Submit.  The pic will show up and you copy/paste the image code into the main body of your post (don't use the attachment feature).  At least that's how I do it.  I like to resize my photo before importing into photobucket.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 15, 2005, 23:28:35 pm
okay let see if this works....
this is a pic of me showing way too many teeth!!  :shock:  :roll:   and Jackson with his cookie monster sun-visor on!
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/105_0597.jpg)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 15, 2005, 23:39:29 pm
Hi Ladies,

Sorry Hayley about the confusion, great idea on the toy - Sophie loves it!

I went and bought the Britax Marathon chair - the really pretty yellow one with dark pink flowers!!  Pretty over practical is what I always say!  I did buy the Denim cover if it gets too dirty and if we have a boy, he won't have a complex from sitting in a girlie chair.  Also the chair cost 380USD here - one of the down sides of island living.

I am going to install the chair tomorrow and take it back so the guy can have a look to see if i did it right.

Traci  :shock:  about your friend with no car - I would be a basketcase by now.  I thought it was a production with one to get places with Sophie!

Erin - Sophie & I listen to whatever mommy is listening to :oops: !  She loves the Moulin Rouge soundtrack and Jack Johnsdon - I am most likely scarring her for llife!  I should maybe consider getting some baby music.....

Naomi - I keep meaning to say I ROTFLMAO at the MILF thing!!  Classic and I can't imagine that offending anyone!

Must run - it is bedtime bottle/cuddle time!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 15, 2005, 23:44:02 pm
You guys have been very busy...

Micky - good to see you, literally!  I was just wondering how you guys were doing

So glad I asked you ladies about the car seat.  I'm going to do my homework but now know I better get out, buy one and make sure its installed properly.  We got the PegPrego as a gift.  Do the convertible ones make it easy to get LO in and out?  What are your complaints about them?  Thanks for all the info Traci.

Richelle - LOL about DH's 7 phone calls.  You look smashing by the way!

Holly - Sol hated peaches as well until I mixed them with rice cereal and banana.  I even sneak a bite while feeding him.

Bec -  :D  :D  :D  I sometimes think there are dogs growling in Ds's room at night.

Hannah - I don't need to encourage burps with Sol.  Between all the gas and his daily hiccups (started in the womb)  he could start a one man band.

I can't remember anything else but I hope you all have a good evening.  The ILs are coming over to visit, AGAIN.  :(  I really have to get over this.  It's not them either, I know its me. 
Oh well...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 15, 2005, 23:47:46 pm
Oh yeah... we've been listening to classic Raphie (baby boluga) the Muppet Show Madness and 35 years of Sesame Street. 

Its so obviuosly about me.  (Don't mind the spelling mistakes :oops: )
I just love Ernie & his rubber ducky!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 16, 2005, 00:19:11 am
Holy crap, don't turn the computer off for a second! You miss everything!

Had a very intense "strollercise" class today... my butt is going to kill tomorrow!

Naomi- your milf comment almost made me hit the floor, hilarious! I wish though, need the strollercise class now so I can "lift" all the parts that "fell" after the girls!

Karen-Love the idea of the scarfs in the kleenex box- I will try it!

Micky- Hello from Edmonton!! I always hit WEM for a walk indoors now that there is snow on the ground... If you want, next time I go I will let you know???

Babes are up, gotta get them their solids... Im doing bedtime/bathtime duties on my own tonight dh working a nightshift... yuk

jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 16, 2005, 00:31:31 am
OMG - I posted at the same time as Jo and Micky!

HOTSTUFF MIcky!  So glad to hear from you and I am sure JAck is back to normal?  My nephew is Jack & i always call him Jack Attack!

Jody - What in the heck in stollersize - it sounds really fun!!

Must go and finish dinner.  I am sufre I will be back before long...........
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 16, 2005, 00:41:37 am
Richelle,

Strollercize is an excercize class for moms! It's held in a gym at the YMCA... 2X a week for an hour you run with the stroller, do cardio, squats,kicks, work your abs,butt,thighs, EVERYTHING! you leave their and you are sweating like a PIG ! I love it!
I go with a friend of mind and we both have 4 lbs to lose so we are working to get it off before Christmas... the woman who instructs the class has an 8 month old dd also so she shows you how to work out with your lo's in your arms too! The babes love it because there are about 30 moms running around to techno music and there is a lot going on for them to see.... I can't say enough good things about it!!


Sorry so long!

jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 16, 2005, 00:51:23 am
Great photo Micky, and I love the sunvisor.

While we're talking about carseats, I can't recall what ours is but it's one of the more popular ones here. Cost around $300 I think. It's rear facing.. anyway, the way it's strapped in you have to tighten the strap manually each time. It's got a strap around the base which is plugged in all the time, but the one that holds it in place at the top has a release on it so you can get the baby in and out. Sorry I'm not making much sense. I thought it was really unstable and had it checked by someone at the shop, and they said it was fine. I'm just looking forward to Daniel being a year old so we can swap it round to a more stable feeling position.

I've been getting more adventurous with Daniel's meals. I did up a meal plan, but haven't even looked at it!  :oops: Waste of time that was. But it motivated me to explore some ideas. So today he had apple and banana for breakfast. He's had b before, but didn't like it that much, was better today. Then for lunch he had kumara and cottage cheese. Mmmmmm managed nearly 2 oz which is good for him. Seemed to really like it. He takes ages to eat though, about 25 mins. Mind you, that included me talking on the phone and feeding him too! Also, gave him a cruskit to suck on. Seemed to like that too. So we're definitely getting there.

Well, need to go hang out his washing and finish tidying up then my housework is complete. Yay!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 16, 2005, 00:56:47 am
Oh, here's Daniel with his high quality, expensive, exclusive, best toy in the 'shop', everyone will want one once I market it MILK BOTTLE SHAKER :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 16, 2005, 01:13:38 am
Whoa ... I haven't been here since lunch time and there are already 4 more pages to catch up on!!!

Traci:  I LOVE the nursery!  It must have taken you forever to do!  We had a lot of work to do on ours because when we moved in it was all purple/butterflies/clouds and we were having a boy!!!  We ended up putting up paintable wallpaper and wainscotting and going with an animal theme (DH wanted cars because he is an automotive engineer but I won with the animals as I am a veterinary technician and animals are less gender biased than cars!!)

Karen:  Carter just got teeth about a month ago (bottom 2).  I have a feeling more are coming soon though as he has been out of sorts.  My friend's son didn't get any until he was 10months old!!

Erin:  When we need Carter to go to sleep we listen to Sheryl Crow "The First Cut" or the song she did with Kid Rock.  I don't know why he likes those songs so much but it ALWAYS calms him down even if he is screaming his head off  :shock:   When we go out and leave him with friends we always leave the CD as well!!!  I listened to that CD on my way to work while preggo so maybe that's why he likes it!  Other than that he listens to whatever .. he doesn't seem to particularly like kids music.  He better like Xmas carols though because I am addicted!

Traci:  I know what you mean about hearing the baby when there is no baby around.  In the middle of the night I will wake out of a sound sleep thinking I have heard Carter crying!

Micky:  Love the cookie monster sunvisor!  Sooo cute!!!

I had to go to my work today to pay a vet bill (my cat has been sick lately, he's a himalayan/persian and they have horrible immune systems  :( )  and I got to thinking as I watched my co-workers rush around "I wonder what all the other SAHM's used to do before our lo's were born??  and do they wish they could do that instead of raising children?"  I mean, I used to get up, go to work until 6:00pm, come home make dinner, clean up, hang out with DH for a bit and then it was bed time.  Now my days are sooo much more busy, but in a different way.  It's more hectic at home but sooo worth it too!!  I am not looking forward to going back in Feb, even though I love my job!!  I will miss Carter too much  :(

Sooooo, I guess what I am asking is what were all you Super Moms before babies came along???  I am sure that we will have an assortment of professions!!!

Oops I hear crying ... bottle must be done so bf time then bed for the little man.  I hope everyone has a wonderful night!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 16, 2005, 01:32:37 am
Micky LOVE the picture!!  You have beautiful teeth!!! :)

Bec I feed the girls at or after 6am and if they happen to wake prior to that I stick with pu/pd.  The other day after a late night Hannah woke at 5.45am and I didn't feel it worth the struggle for 15min... kind of a judgement call there.  As for the 6am ish feeding... I always attempt to put them back to bed after this feed... sometimes they fall back to sleep and other times they don't.

Traci ok - now to remember what my carseat comments were... hmmmmmmmmmmm.... never had our carseat checked out by the fire department but between dh & I those carseats are very secure.  I was really frustrated when we bought our Caravan (I'm a foreign vehicle owner myself) to find out that while it seats 7 the very back seat is not carseat ready.  I called the salesguy and gave him a little 'whatfor'.  I mean really - for the 30cents it would have cost Chrysler/Dodge to install the tether hooks  :roll: .  He kept calling me back with suggestions - I finally told him that dh was a mechanical engineer - securing the carseats was not an issue - my point was did Dodge really think it that ODD that people might have more than 2 children?  Being pregnant with twins with two toddlers running around I didn't bother to go look at vans with dh and he, being the slow consumer that he is, didn't purchase a van until the last couple weeks of my pregnancy.  There's very little I like about the Caravan to be honest.  Anyway, dh has the carseats tethered right to the vehicle where the van seats themselves are installed - so unless those van seats give way - the carseats are going nowhere.

Traci - also good point on how tightly a child should be strapped into their seats... most people I know leave the straps so loose it amazes me - I mean their child could literally fly right through them.  I think that's why the babies have taken so long to take to their seats because they're in so freakin' tightly!! :)

So, it's Tuesday and Kaia and Hannah actually ate today.  A reasonable (for them) amount of cereal, Kaia had a few bites of squash or was that Hannah - gosh hmm... yup it was Kaia who also had a some applesauce.  Hannah - nope!!  Just cereal.  First time they've been willing to eat since last Tuesday - wonder if it's a Tuesday thing ;)  And yet I offer food 3times a day every day...  *sigh*  Hannah!!  That little tart ;) bit down on my nipple today and *wouldn't let go*!!!  I was trying to be really calm and ask her nicely to stop biting mommy but holy cats that's a sharp pain.  AND Kaia took a bite out of dh's earlobe tonight which pleased me only so that I could get a bit more understanding for the nipple nawing.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 16, 2005, 01:39:02 am
Oh yeah Traci THAT'S what I wanted to say... YES YES YES!!!  I hear the babies all the time in the shower.  It's so weird.  Freaks me out.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 16, 2005, 01:46:41 am
LMAO (sorry Judy) with Kaia biting DH's ear.  Danielle's taken to clamping down lately too - fortunately no teeth!

I also have my kids seatbelt straps really tight across their chests and amazed at the people who don't! 

Hayley, our big carseat (which I'm yet to fit for Danielle) seems to move sideways at the base quite a bit even with the metal clasp thing that holds the lap bit firm, but with the tether I know that seat's not going anywhere!

I don't play kids music here either, the radio's on all day though since I don't have any daytime telly on until the end of the day when it's a nursery rhyme/baby einstein DVD.

Jo, I've passed your comment on to Teddy, and she sends you a big thank you for your kind words.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 16, 2005, 02:08:05 am
My girls play kids music all the time.  In fact I gave up the idea of listening to the radio b/c as soon as I turn it on they switch it to CD mode and pop in their music.  They love it - they run and dance quite often to it.  Then again, they stand at the player and fight over who's turn it is to pick a song.  It's a wonder any of their cd's even work anymore the way they get tossed around and walked on. :)

I rarely play children's music in the house when Zoe was this age though.  In the car we listened to it all the time - it was the only way to keep her happy.  And in fact now it's either their songs or their Baby Einst. DVD in the van - I don't get to listen to my radio unless they're asleep.  In their defence though I like talk radio (CBC Traci!! :)) which is pretty dull I'm sure.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 16, 2005, 02:50:04 am
My goodness you ladies have been busy, I need to get all caught up on whats been going on. I was on this morning....but....apparently while I was trying to nap, you have been typing away. So I'll go get caught up soon.  My MIL came over this afternoon and allowed me to get some much needed sleep.  Brady slept for 1.5 hours this am and 1.0 hour this pm...Yah!!!!, went down tonight at 7:30, but took till 8:30 to get him to sleep.  So here's hoping for a better night.  I've spent some time with dh this evening so I haven't been online much.  I'm off for now to finish our show together, and then I'll get caught up and be back on later or tomorrow morning...Have a good night ladies...

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 16, 2005, 03:04:17 am
okay, this is my 9th post today LOL.  yes- I went back and counted :D

Holly-what time does Brady's catnap end?  I'm just curious.  Is he hard to settle every night or only every now and again?  I wonder if the catnap is running too late or if he's getting too much day sleep.  Is it only nighttime when you're having trouble with settling?  I think you said it took an hour last night too....hmmmm, just trying to think of things that may cause it. 
We can always chat about it thursday when we meet.

good night and good day everyone.  I'm heading out to buy milk in a jug tomorrow to make a great toy :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 16, 2005, 03:32:55 am
Hi Traci

I'd like to say that having a hard time putting Brady down at night is off and on, some days only, but as of late it seems to be every night, maybe his naps are too long. I know I have been trying to deal with that lately, but I though his naps today were good.  But he didn't go down for a cat nap as the went down for his afternoon nap at around 3:30pm, up at 4:30 so I didnt' do a cat nap.  maybe I should have, I dont know. He seems easier to put down for naps then at bedtime. :?  :roll:  yes maybe we can talk more on Thursday as well.   :)

Quick question for anyone out there, Brady is 7.5 months +, and he has yet to try meat.  I have bought some organic baby food meat to try, but not sure when I should start this, does anyone know at what month they should be trying meat?  Just wondering.

Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 16, 2005, 03:40:18 am
Thank you all for your carseat comments (and keep 'em coming) - and Traci, you are SO right about the installation....and about the tightness of the straps.  I always check the straps after putting Katie in (sometimes I have to loosen them to get her in b/c of a coat or whatever) and I'm amazed at people who don't. 

Micky - I have read that the teething/diarhea (never can spell that word) connection has to do with the fact that they're swallowing excess saliva from all the drooling they do when teeth are coming in, so yes, it can be a symptom. 

For whoever was asking (Carter's mom perhaps?), in my former life I was (and still am!) a special ed teacher - I was working with 8th graders before I went on maternity leave.  Now I am working part time with college students with learning disabilities and training adults in teaching dyslexic people to read. 

Ugh, past my bedtime.  Night all!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 16, 2005, 03:51:52 am
Micky- my girls poop non-stop when the teeth are coming in! I can always tell when another tooth is coming through (5 each now!) because they will wake from a nap with a yukky butt.

Cathy- In the "old days" ( which I may go back to in a few months  :shock: ) I was a Personal Financial Officer
(mortgages/investment/accounts pretty boring math type stuff- loved it!)
I am really looking to start something from my house soon though- needing ideas  :wink: !!

I would love to write a childrens books for twins- Judy what do you think?

Holly-
as for the meat question- I have given the girls the heinz beef/veggies, chicken/veggies, turkey/veggies, but never the "strained" heinz meet- it looks awful doesn't it? The girls LOVE the beef and veggies, but gag ( and I'm talking first bite- every time they taste it!) on the turkey and chicken food! I don't know why but they do!

HTH

Jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 16, 2005, 05:10:13 am
jeez louise guys!  Well I too have posted 9 times today Traci, but all in the nap forum!  Does that count? :lol:

Who asked about music?  We play Jack Johnson to Taylor alll the time and she loves it (you too Richelle huh?)  Actually we are HUGE jj fans and that was taylor's first concert!  I was about 13 weeks pregnant when we went AND, we named her Taylor after one of his songs.  Crazy nuts huh? :lol:  :lol:   For anyone who hasn't heard of him it is really mellow surfer/Hawaiin type music LOVE LOVE LOVE it! 
Also, we play the Martha Stewart lullaby cd which is GREAT!  it has an awesome rendition of Close to You by the Bare Naked Ladies.

We too have the Britax Marathon but need to buy a 2nd one because DH is tired of switching back and forth...I am debating about spending the cash on a 2nd Marathon or getting a Cosco brand which seem nice as well.

Judy-sorry about the bitten nipple.  ouch!

Traci-love the nursery---you did a great job!  Taylor's is what we call the "sophisticated nursery"-OK, Candace Olsen actually called it that beccause we stole the idea from her!  it is yellow with white and black toile and accents of white/black and yellow/white gingham.  Decked out with a chandelier and all!!!  For those of you in Canada do you know Candace Olsen?  I love her!!!

Nicki-gosh I guess I shouldn't be gossiping! :oops:   see how rumors get started!

Don't really want to relive last night and our attempt to drop the dream feed, so will just move on!

Love the pics Micky and Richelle and Hayley.  I showed DH the picture of your handmade toy and he started cracking up!

BTW, l was an account manager for a clothing company in my prior life.  Now I am Founder/President of a baby clothing company! :lol:   always wanted to be a president of something! :lol:

allright girls, getting carpel tunnel from typing too much.  good night everyone!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 16, 2005, 06:45:23 am
Holy smokes, ladies... have a bad day with short naps, dash out to yoga and this is what I come back to!!  :D

Anyhow... carseats... I know that BCAA and ICBC (the provincial car insurance company) have a carseat inspection service. If anybody is nervous about the installation of theirs, you could look into something like it where you live? Ours is a Graco something or another. It is not the top of the line nor the cheapest. We bought it before Arwyn was born, thinking we would use it from the get go. NOT! The thing is huge and we got some advice from our friends that it would be hard to move a sleeping infant... so, we purchased an infant seat.

Poor Arwyn... no solids today except for breakfast. We went swimming and she was asleep for lunch... and then we went out to get Christmas portraits done and she was a MESS when we got home so, straight to bed. This is our second day of no solids after breakfast. I am such a bad mommy. :cry:

Alright... going to bed. Bracing myself for some pu/pd tonight! See you guys tomorrow.

Oh... before I forget. Micky, love the picture and the cute visor on Jackson! Traci... beautiful nursery!!! Andrea... yours sounds beautiful too! Poor Arwyn, she got some Wal-Mart Winnie the Pooh stickers  :roll: .
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 16, 2005, 13:26:49 pm
Good Morning

Traci - One of the only 'words' I have had with MIL was about the carseat straps.  Sophie hated her carseat for the 1st 4 months and MIL said once her straps were too tight and that I was making her cry!  I snapped I would rather her be uncomfortable than through the windshield! :oops:  Yikes, those hormones!!  Also when Cole starting crawling did know he was going to right away or did it just happen all of a sudden?  I feel like Sophie is going to any second, well as soon as she figures out the legs which I fear won;t take long - she already shimmies and rolls to get places but I am paranoid everytime I leave the room.

Hope you had a good night Ankie, Holly Traci and Judy.  Are those girls still superstar sleepers? 

Holly - I have given Sophie some roast chicken as a start, then I tried a few of the gerber meals with meat and she seems to like them.  We tried a scrambled egg yolk yesterday but it didn;t go over very well, the texture maybe.  I will try it again in a few weeks.

I am getting truly stressed now that the end of month is coming.  I have 2 weeks and one restaurant left to wrap up - the biggest hardest, most hectic one.  It does on average 1000 covers (cruise shippers) for lunch between 11AM and 3PM!!  Talk about hustle bustle, for example there are 8 ships in port tomorrow with about 3000 passengers each aboard, I have a headache already.  I am trying to organize the house for packing and moving on the day that I leave for Canada, which I have nothing warm for Sophie to wear and worry how she is going to react...oh oh and of course the IL's are coming to visit (staying here) at the end of the month as well.  I know I am rambling and I never used to get stressed out like this but I honestly am giving myself a rash....sigh....at least I cleaned the house right?

Phew..maybe I should get of the computer and go get some stuff done before work...LOL!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 16, 2005, 13:45:23 pm
i will post about our night later. I'll keep you all in suspense :wink:

Richelle-two things for you.  First-Cole would get up on his hands and knees and rock back and forth.  To be honest I don't quite remember exactly how it happened :oops:  I have the worst memory, this is why I log absolutely everything!  The first time she actually crawls she likely won't go too far so don't worry too much.  maybe take any plants and other more dangerous stuff out of the room now.  You'll have to very soon anyway.  Second-what size is Sophie?  Please let me know. Give me her size and maybe her length.  I will go to the second hand store here for you and pick up just a couple of things for you to make it to Saskatchewan.  Was it Sask?  Alberta?  I don't remember, sorry.  When you know your hotel let me know and I can drop them off ahead of time.  I am still hoping to meet you but given it will be midweek and Cole is still not taking a bottle I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to :cry:

gotta go shower. DH kept Cole up too long and I didn't carry him around for much of a wind down so i'm expecting a 45 min. nap.

ttfnmfl
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 16, 2005, 15:30:32 pm
Traci - Shucks thanks so much, you are very sweet to offer but I just went ot look at my ticket and I am overnight in TO on my way back, overnight the 13th of Dec.  I am hoping that my brother and friend in Saskatoon pull through.  It would be easier of my mom KNEW I was comiing then I jknow everything would be ready...sigh...I guess i just need to vent.  I have no idea why i get so worked up about stuff, I was alot more laid back preSophie!!

Oh and by the way, I keep forgetting to say that I hear Sophie ALL the time!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 16, 2005, 16:45:31 pm
Hey, girls!  We are doing well over here.  I was afraid that Ryan had ringworm...round, reddish spots on his neck and back of legs.  Went to the ped. yesterday and it was only ecxema (I know that's spelled wrong!)  Phew!  So, for those of us heading into winter, beware of it...he said to lube Ryan up (well, he didn't put it that way) after bath and in the morning and not to use baby lotion, as it doesn't do much.   :?   Just an FYI

Micky:  I REALLY laughed so hard when I read about Jackson "Pulling a ryan"  My husband had to come check what was so funny and he thought it was hilarious, too.  So honored to be known for something.   :lol:

For music, we listen to NPR in the car.   :oops:   We also have a great Jerry Garcia/David Grisman CD and a few Baby Einsteins.  Our favorite kids CD is by Hap Palmer (I think that's his name).  It is so fun!!!  He does the classics, but with a twist.  Our favorite is "The Elephant" (which isn't a classic, but still) and, at first, it goes really slowly like an elephant and Ryan and I stomp around then when the elephant has to go fast to scare away the mean hunter the music gets really fast and we do this fun polka around the room and he laughs and laughs.  Too much fun!  I'll check out the name of the CD...I think it's going to be my new baby shower gift...along with a copy of BW, of course!

In my former life, I was a 2nd grade teacher and now I am the Assistant Director at my mil's preschool...really I just do whatever she wants and make sure no one runs away.  It's actually a pretty cool school and I designed a very basic website for her.  If you're extremely bored, you can check it out at:  http://www.applehillacademy.com

Hope all the kiddies did well with sleeping!  Talk to you soon!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 16, 2005, 17:41:29 pm
Kate-plesae find out the name of the CD and let us know; it sounds cute.

Richelle-gosh hon, sorry you are so stressed out.  I hope you make it through the next couple of weeks and come here to vent all you want.  BTW, what do you do?  It sounds interesting.

Traci-let us know about Cole's night ASAP!

last night we tried to drop the df (I know we said we were going to wait until the weekend, but oh well).  She didn't do her usuall waking at 10ish yeah! :D   but then she woke at 12:10 right as I had gotten into bed :evil:  she did this HORRIBLE screaming like she was possessed and did PU/PD for about 10 minutes and no feed.
She woke again at 4ish and DH went in but didn't have to do PU/PD; she was doing a lot of mantra crying.  she settled back down after about 5 minutes.
woke at 6:48 am so I fed and was prepared to start the day, but she fell fast asleep and I had to wake at 7:30.
 :?: Do any of your other lo's seem to want to sleep past 7:30?  I feel so bad going into wake her, but if I don't she doesn't ever take a good first nap.

 :?: Also, do any of your other Lo's strain a lot when going poop?  It seems that even when she is not constipated she is pushing and straining so hard I think she is going to pass out!  ever since solids it has been that way.

TTFN!

BTW, Naomi, what does RFLMAO (or whatever it is) mean????
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 16, 2005, 17:53:18 pm
ROFLMAO, is rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.
Andrea- Riley has begun to strain when she poops, I guess it takes a lot of concentration for her :wink:
Also I let Riley wake up on her own, she is no later than 8am in waking.
Oh yes, my life b4 riley, I worked at tim horton's doing the back shift. timmy's is a donut and coffee shop in canada, it sucked so bad working 11pm to 7am and having Jayson, I missed out on so much.
Oh well at least I know that will not happen with Riley.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 16, 2005, 17:54:08 pm
Any of you know the chorus to camp songs that go... "First verse, same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse!"?? From 3 am onwards, that sums up our night.

3 am waking... back to sleep in 35 min.
4:24 waking... louder screams, back to sleep in 8 min.
5:01 waking... louder screams, back to sleep in 14 min. (bless DH's heart for taking this shift)
5:45 waking... lots of shifting and snuffling sounds... went in to settle her.
6:00 waking... DH gets her, changes her diaper and tries to put her back down
6:30... mommy gives up that DH will be successful and we are up for the day.

SO, at least she didn't get fed from 6 pm to midnight! I dropped her dream feed (waking her to feed) and decided only to feed if she woke up. All the other times were pu/pd. Phew... we are now into minute 56 of the morning nap!!! (Am I neurotic or what? still counting the minutes after all these months!)

Music... I listened to classical music while pregnant. (Don't look at me funny, I actually did before I was preggo too!) Anyway, if Arwyn is fussy in the car, we can tune it to CBC 2 and she calms right down. If that doesn't work, we turn on her Baby Einstein CD. Otherwise, we listen to our radio station. It is so funny because she lets us know when she wants her music... she will make this funny noise, like a cross between a bark and a quack... if we change the station, it stops. If we don't she continues until we do! Demanding child I have  :roll: .

Richelle... take it easy... once you get to Saskatchewan, you'll be home and maybe you'll get a break because your mom will be a "baby hog". And I love the way you cleaned the house yesterday, popping on and off the forum... it's kinda like cleaning with your friends over, isn't it?

Phantom baby... ALL the time!! Especially if I don't have the monitor right in front of me, on full blast!

Hannah... I forgot to comment about this a long time ago. About wiping the face after eating... yes, a warm facecloth heading towards Arwyn's face is grounds for squirming, whining, arm flapping and eventually, screaming. Apparently, she thinks it is a form of torture!

Baby up! Gotta run.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 16, 2005, 18:17:51 pm
Kate,
prety sure we have a spot of excezma, yeah can't spell that one either, on Sophie too.
Did your ped recommend a certain type of lotion? ALso, I've heard that timing is really important.  make sure you lube him up :) right after bath, like while he's still moist :)

Andrea..et al, we are Jack lovers here too.  Actually, we must have seen him on the same tour because he was Sophie's first concert too (in utero).  He's brendan's favorite too.
Just got a mag in the mail yesterday called music for little people.  Dh adn I are so excited to stock up on some fun kid/adult cd's.  The website is mflp.com....

Now be careful not to type in milf.com  you never know what might pop up :)

Ankie, your lo sure is giving it her all isn't she?  Hugs to you. And yes I know the campsong...good description.

Sophie strains all the time with poop, in fact sometime she's like an all day pooper...she just poops a little and I change her then she poops a little more and I change her and on and on...she rarely pulls a Ryan any more :)  That is too funny LOL.

Cute picture Micky...I have No idea why but I pitured you very differently.
Cute idea about the books for twins...very cute.

OK, I was and will VERY son be again a 4th grade teacher.  I go back Dec. 8th.  My sahm days are numbered
 :(

I have a question, what do you all feel comfortable cleaning with now that you have lo's around?
I finally cleaned sinks this morning with comet but find it to be really fume-y.  It's just yucky...but I've tried other more friendly cleaners and they just don't do the job as well.  Any ideas?

Have a great day.  I am off for a run and then to the mall. Yay!!! Except our mall is sooooo lame.  But I guess it's better than nothing. 

Had a ton of fun at IL's last night. Sophie was a total hoot.  They ahve all these really annoying doll things that sing songs etc. when you press their hands (KWIM??) anyhow, I hate them but Sophie of course loves them.  They have this teddy bear guy thing that sings When I'm 64...She lays on her stomach and "sings" and taps her feet and watches this guy.  MIL and FIL were getting such a kick out of her.  It's fun to watch them adore her so much.   Oh yeah and the clapping thing..she cannot stop clapping.  It's hysterical.  She just wants to clap all day long:)  Crawling is going to be a bear!!!
TTFNMFL
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 16, 2005, 21:17:30 pm
Me again...with more burning questions for you ladies.

How much do you care of your child has a clean face/nose/clothes etc.?  Are you willing to put your lo to nap with traces of lunch still smeared on their face?  If you know they have a huge booger that's got to making it somewhat difficult to breathe, do you go after it? At what cost?

I feel like I am abusing my child every time I go to wipe her face... :roll:

I realize this is kinda silly, but I thought I'd see what your thoughts are.

Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 16, 2005, 21:29:42 pm
Ok I am answering all the questions

tell me if miss any

crying?? - I hear dd crying everytime I am in the shower- but she is always with dh and I say 'What was she crying for" and he said "she wasn't"

old job?? - I monitered apprentices and trainees at their worksites blah blah blah fairly boring

cleaning stuff?? - I use Vanilla Fridge Wipe now as it is safe for food surfaces and smells good great for the high chair which i hate cleaning :x

music?? - dd listens to my music in the car - The Tea Party mainly because I LOVE THEM. At home she has a dvd called Baby Bright but it's more like numbers, colours. shapes etc not really music.

dirty face etc?? I used to worry about dirty clothes but not anymore. She hates having her face cleaned so sometimes I don't get all of it off. She gets a good scrub down at bath time before bed.

was that all the questions???

oh yeah nearly forgot - she pulls all sorts of faces and strains when doing a poo - kind of looks like this  :oops: been the same since starting solids
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 16, 2005, 21:31:42 pm
Hannah, I am really bad about wiping faces after eating!  :oops:  I don't bother changing her clothes if dirty with food unless we've got a special visit somewhere - if I'm just popping down to the shops or my parents or good friends I don't bother.  :oops:

LOL at milf.com (just had to do it to check!)  :shock:

In my former life I was a Project Administrator/Coordinator - worked in HR and the energy industry.  I'm now studying towards a diploma in Editing and Proofreading so I can freelance from home while home with the kids.  Hope to be completed in about 6mths.

Judy, did you ever figure out what the problem with Hannah (or was it Kaia) and her pooping?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 16, 2005, 21:47:39 pm
hi girls!

I just wrote a long post then my darn internet went down and lost the whole thing! :evil:

Jody: Let me know next time you go to the mall.  I'd love to come and join you for exercise/adult interaction!! :D

We went to Jackson's music class today.  We've been going for about 2 months now.  It is all different ages of babes from newborn to 9 months.  It is mostly just singing to them and tapping the beat or bouncing them to the beat.  It is supposed to teach them to be able to hear the beat in music.

As far as music goes--we too are listeners to Jack Johnson---I love him!!  We also listen to a CD that came with Jackson's music class--Music Together.  Music together is a program and I believe they have a bunch of different CD's.

Pooping-yes Jack changes colors, veins buldge, and he grunts.  It varies in severity depending on whether or not he is constipated! :shock:

Cleaning stuff--who cleans??!!?? :roll:  :shock:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 16, 2005, 22:08:06 pm
okay, in our house, dh is the one who is paraniod on a dirty baby, he would clean Jay's face midway thru the meal :shock: , I always clean her after, or grab that big booger if she has one.
Riley has an eye infection at the moment, crpet up on us over night, so she is a little cranky today, no biggie tho, nuthin a little tlc and eye drops won't fix.
K.... that is me for now, I will see you all in the chat room leter tonight for those who are going to be there. I maybe a little late, LOST is on plus a call from a high school friend is also on the agenda.

TCFNMFL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 16, 2005, 22:08:09 pm
okay, I thought I would end the suspense.  Just didn't have time to post today.  two 30 minute naps followed a great 1.5 hour morning one :?

Cole hasn't been eating well lately from the boob.  He's only been taking one side.  Last night after catnap I BF first instead of solids, with the intention of topping him up before bed.  So his last milk feed was at 4:30.  Ate both sides (YAY) and had a good dinner.  After bath and our diaper/dressing wrestling match he wasn't interested in eating so off he went to sleep at 5:45.  I had a feeling I would pay for the very early BF.

He woke briefly at one point around 7:15 or so but settled himself back.  Then he woke at 8:30.  HMMM, do I do pupd or do I feed.  It had been 4 hours after all.  Given I was relaxing with DH (yes, JUST relaxing) I figured I'd feed him.  So, here I am thinking, there is just NO way he'll make it til 5:30 or 6:00 in the morning. And I was right.

He only made it til 3:50 am.  But do you realize what a huge success that is!!!???  He finally made it past his 2am wake up.  Hoooorayyy.

Of course, I woke at 3:20 and with all my sleep couldn't get back to sleep until after I fed him.  He then woke at 5:40 for the day.  Yahooooo!

I am trying as hard as I can to stretch him until 6.  I would do anything for him to go 6-6 instead of being up before 6am.  For now though I will be grateful for my little miracle.  Expecting a regression at some point.

okay, gotta run.  He's in the saucer again and is absolutely joyous in it bouncing up and down which means he's in overdrive and I must calm him for a little bit.

back later girls!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 16, 2005, 22:23:11 pm
Hi everyone,  you really cannot turn your computer off can you - this forum moves too fast :lol:

We are going really well, we now have four teeth and feeding and sleeping are going well.  We have found a new "favourite" food - turkish bread toasted with hommus on it.  Thinks this is great! :D

Is anyone have the 5am wake up?   This has jsut started for us and although I don't mind as I am up already (Dh leaves for work at 5:30am) get a bit confused as to how to do morning routine.  At the moment it goes:

5am awake
5:30am get out of bed
6am:  bottle
6:15am-7am play
7am breakfast (ceral/toast)
7:30am shower/wash
8am:  nap

does this sound like the routine of everyone else, or would you put them down for a nap before breakfast?  It works so might continue, just curious.  also, does it end?  he goes to bed at 6:30pm and wakes at 5am.  Not complaining as he only wakes at night if he gets caught in cot.  We jsut fix him up and a few pats and he is off again.  My heart goes out to everyone having sleeping problems. :(

Developmentally, we are now cruising around the lounge (holding on and walking around) so I don;t think walking is too far away.  Is everyone looking forward to christmas?  I have decided since it is James' first Christmas to decorate the tree in silver, blue and a little purple for me.  I stood my ground last christmas and said my lo was having his first christmas at home (we always drive everywhere   :x ) so christmas is here this year :D

Hope everyone has a lovely day.  is aussie/kiwi chat on tonight?  i will definitely be on tonight if anyone is interested.

talk soon

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 16, 2005, 22:33:27 pm
whoops, wanted to share a photo of James having a real "grown up" breakfast - scrambled eggs and baked beans last Sunday.  Do you think he enjoyed it :lol:

Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 16, 2005, 22:52:20 pm
Hi Ladies,

Not as busy as yesterday!!  Thanks to me... :oops: !

Thanks for the stress pep talks, I honestly don;t know why I get so worked up?

Andrea - I am an area manger for a group of restaurants owned by a company on island.  Basically I oversee the day to day operations of 3 restaurants but also run the floor and back of house for the 2 larger ones .  It is difficult, time consuming and I used to love it and love the pace but now with Sophie I can't kid myself, I just can't do it.  I feel like I am failing everywhere and thought to myself "what exactly am I trying to prove?"  I figure Sophie is most important and if I go crazy I am a very clever girl so I am sure I will figure something out!! :wink:   By the way, is this moderator thing new?  Or have i really been out to lunch?  I also am excited to see your website any timelines yet?

Traci - WAYTOGO!!!!  I am so happy for you and just think that it can only get better - he went 8 HOURS!!!!!   

MIcky - Do you and Jack enjoy the class?  I wish we had something like that here but then I had a friend in Canada that said she didn't like the music class for infants.

Lisa - good to see you again.  Hummus huh?  I should try Sophie on it.  We tried watermelon today and she HATED it.  I thought I had this great little eater but I think she is turning into a fuss put...

Hannah - I know that my nanny has a small heart attack every time she comes over and sees how dirty Sophie is.  I know that as soon as I am out the door she runs and changes her and gives her a quick wash!  SHe said something in filipino under her breath the other day when Sophie was rolling around on the tile and sucking on a corner of the area rug, what can I say...

I forget who asked about the pooping but I can hear from another room when Sophie is 'pulling a Ryan'.  MY DH laughs his arse off everytime he sees her poo - he said it is the upside of having to change the reaking mess!

Kate - Cute website!

Ok I am working at the moment could anyone tell?   :oops:  :wink:   at least we are not having a repeat of my house cleaning/posting cycle yesterday.  If I did do that at work they would probably be counting their lucky stars that I have resigned.

Ok really gotta run......
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 16, 2005, 23:17:53 pm
Hannah, cleaning the girls.... hmmm I am probably too nuts about it. I whipe them down between bites sometimes. I guess I just think that I wouldn't like to have food al over my face while Im eating so why would they? But then again they have no clue and I am too fussy. The thing is, is I'm not a neat freak, I just hate mess... and having twins sure puts a damper on the cleanliness of my abode. My parents got us a house cleaner every two weeks as a "hold crap you have twins" present. I guess while I was on bedrest my mother (who lived with me and DH for the 6 weeks to help out) got sick of me saying "mom there is a speck of dust on the floor could you get it.. Mom there is a spot on the window could you clean it?".... Don't blame her.

Lisa- When did you start giving James eggs? I would love to give the girls them, and just like you did let them eat it themselves. They want everything we eat but I just didn't know when (or how) to introduce eggs to them. I am afraid they will gag. They don't like any baby food that isn't completely mushy. I tried 8 month heinz "chicken casserole" and on the first nite they both BARFED-huge projectile (TMI sorry). Did James have that problem?

Micky- Sometime next week I am sure to be going to the mall... The dreadful Christmas shopping has kicked me in the butt again and I have gotten maybe 2 ppl gifts... leave it to me to leave it to the last minute.



Seeing as it will be our babies first christmas this question is for all of you...

What are you going to get you lo for Christmas??
Dh and I are building a house so we will be moving in a few months, so we don't want to get them anything really ( they don't even know what Christmas is right?) So any $ we think about spending on them we are putting into their RESP's.... do you guys have any ideas or suggestions though??


Jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 16, 2005, 23:58:36 pm
okay, i'm all caught up now.  I had dinner while I read.  I'm sick of waiting for DH to get home.  Sometimes it's 8 or 9 before we eat.

CathyI was a Supervisor at a mutual fund accounting and custody firm.  Yawn.  We calculate the Net Asset Value for funds on a daily basis.  I HATE it.  Since we are tied to the stock markets 4-6pm is our busiest time.  I must get something new because it will be very hard to get home for daycare.

Micky Love the pic if I didn't already mention it.  I also pictured you differently.  Light brown hair for some reason...

Ankie Hang in there girl.  Have you considered there might be something else going on?  Have you had her ears checked or anything like that???  Maybe something worth considering.

Kate What are you lubing him up with if not baby lotion?

Andrea Yo girl.  When did you become Super Mod.  I didn't even notice until someone else mentioned it!  As for babies sleeping past 7:30 am that just made me LOL. 

Hannah- I use the same stuff I used to to clean.  I try to use them less frequently and open windows and stuff when I do.  Since I've been FLYing things don't get as grimey so a thorough clean isn't needed as often.  My kitchen is shining!  Now, as for the cleanliness of Cole.  Hmmmm.  Do i want to admit that when he was teeney tiny I would roll up a tissue and stick it up his nose to get the snot out.  Snot bugs me.  I try as hard as I can to leave it alone but it's hard.  I think I need therapy for it in fact.  As for his clothes.  DH often laughs at me because Cole might be in the same stained outfit for two days if it's not bath day.  It's such a struggle to dress him that I just can't be bothered.  We went to the mall in his pyjamas today.  Who cares anyway?  Now, while feeding I also wipe in between bites like Jody :oops:   I just can't stand the thought of food getting all over the place.  Yes, I know this is something I have to get over for when he starts feeding himself.

Lisa- It's good that you leave James in the crib until 5:30.  Try not to start his day too early or it might just get earlier and earlier.  Did his bedtime change?  Cole wakes at 5 when he's overtired/went to bed late.  Maybe it's because he just started cruising??  LOL at the pic by the way.  I took one of Cole today because I did let him take the spoon and he ended up with squash all over himself.

Jody- Not really buying Cole much.  Probably just one item and we don't even know what it is yet.  He is the first grandson on DHs side and MIL buys US way too much stuff.  I can't imagine how much she'll get Cole.  We've asked for Leap Frog Phonics Bus and the Phonics Fridge Magnet.  I think I'm going to ask for a good Potty too.  Maybe baby bjorn?  I want to start Cole a la BWSAYP at 9 months.  Also, Baby Bjorn makes a cool bowl which is Clover shaped.  It's supposed to be easy for los to feed themselves with it...so I may ask for that.  Bowl and spoon are something like $30 :shock:   Like you said, they don't know it's christmas so I'm just trying to think of practical things that I'll need in the near future.

phew.  I think that's all.  Not sure I'll be at chat.  I'm pretty pooped and I'm going to try to make felt baby booties for my girlfriends shower this weekend.  Found them in an old issue of Martha Stewart baby.  I'll post a pic if they turn out.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 17, 2005, 00:15:13 am
OK Traci totally laughing my head off at what you said about Cole and cleanliness...I think I need therapy for the booger/snot thing too....I  often wonder if that's why she hates it soo much because she has traumatic memories of mom "going in deep" with the sucker thingy to get the boogies out.

Love the part about the clothes too...lol!!!!

Took Sophie to the mall today with carrot leftovers on her nostrils (she's a very messy eater...and if I tried to wipe as we go I'm afraid I'd put her off solids for good :? ) and the usual boogers in her nose.  She still got lots of smiles etc. from the older lady shoppers :lol:

I might chat tonight/might TRY not to.  Dh needs a little attention.  So I'm gonna cook dinner etc.  Hopefully I can sneak on for a minute at least.
Have fun!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 17, 2005, 00:45:23 am
What time is the chat tonight ladies? How do I log on? I am a chatting "virgin"  tee hee hee ... I can still use that word somehow!

jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 17, 2005, 01:04:30 am
jodi the chat starts tonight at 9pm est. In the lounge there is a chat room link, click on that and then you can register and go from there. I maybe a little late tonight, but the girls there are wonderful.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 17, 2005, 01:51:05 am
Whew .. what a day!  At last I have some mommy computer time as DH is doing bath and bottle.  That leaves me about 10 mins until bf time!!

It was sooo cold here today and we had snow!!  I was very excited, love the snow!

Kate:  Carter has eczema on his forearms and one spot on his cheek due to his egg/milk allergies.  My Dr said the same thing as yours, I think his exact words were "lube him up like a turkey"!!  I mainly use Lubriderm in addition to his baby lotion.  The Dr also gave me a presc for a steroid cream that works wonderfully to take the itch away.  I try to use it as little as possible though.

Hannah:  Due to Carter's cold (that has been here for 2 weeks and counting) every time he sees a kleenex he has a meltdown!!  Poor baby!  DH is crazy about wiping Carter's nose.  He also wipes Carter's face repeatedly throughout meals.  I usually give him a good wipe at the end of the meal, which he hates.  Funny thing is he doesn't mind having his face washed in the tub??!!  :roll:

Richelle:  Whereabouts in Canada are you going? Is that where your family lives?  How long of a flight will it be?  I hope you have a good flight.  Actually I will be in Toronto that weekend too (we are heading home to visit the family as well, I lived my whole life in Orangeville until 2 years ago... if anyone knows where that is)

Jod:  We aren't going crazy for Xmas either.  Carter has a lot of aunts and uncles that will most likely spoil him anyway.  We will give him some clothes, but he needs those regardless.  He could use some new toys, we never really bought him any to begin with.  I might just make the milk jug/macaroni thing though ... I think he will love it.

Lisa:  Great picture of James!!!  He looks to be enjoying himself immensely!!

I can't believe how many of these Mar/Apr babies are crawling/cruising etc!  Carter barely even rolls over!!!   :shock:  He will push himself backwards on his belly and yesterday he grabbed DH's shirt and just pulled himself up.  We were shocked.  He really likes to stand.  And, of course the only jibbering that comes out of his mouth these days is Ah vvvouuu DaDaDa Da which to DH sounds exactly like "I love you Da Da"  Ya RIGHT!! Give me a break!!

We just found out that a close friend of ours is preggo again.  Her DD is 9 months old.  I knew they had been trying since DD was 4 months old    :shock:   We had been pregnant together so DH assumes that we are going to be pregnant again together.  He wants them close in age and I do as well but realistically I couldn't handle it.  I had a really hard time with Carter and his newborn sleeping habits (and he was even sleeping 8 hours a night by 6 weeks of age).  Is anyone else TTC yet?  I know a few of you mentioned you were.  I would love to (I love being pregnant) but I don't know if I could handle two!  My job isn't very pregnant-friendly either with all of the x-rays, anaesthetics, heavy lifting/dog wrestling etc.
What do you all think is the ideal age between lo's?  My Dr said to not even start trying until lo #1 was 1 yr.  I have another friend who gave birth to #2, 3 weeks before #1 turned 1  :shock:   AND her DH has never changed a diaper, given a bottle or done a night waking AND  lo #1 still gets up TWICE a night!!!  Poor girl!  I convinced her to buy the BW books and even lent her the video but she hasn't watched/read them ...

Anyway, my mommy time is up.  Sorry for the long, jumbled post!

Hope everyone has a great night!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 17, 2005, 01:57:52 am
Quote from: M&M'sMom
I would love to write a childrens books for twins- Judy what do you think?

I think it's a great idea.  My girlfriend and I have talked about writing a book together for hmmm, 3yrs now  :lol:  just haven't found the time somehow.

As for a book on twins - there really isn't a whole lot out there - so - go for it :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 17, 2005, 02:12:51 am
Quote from: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle
Judy, did you ever figure out what the problem with Hannah (or was it Kaia) and her pooping?

No - it only happened those two times?  I wondered if it was the well water as she may get some in her mouth during bath - but if that were the case I don't think it would have just gone away.  In any case dh is going to put in a system so we don't have to worry about the water anymore - it's not fit for drinking and I'm getting tired of harping on Z&S not to drink the bath water.  They do it simply because I tell them not too.  :roll:   In fact right now  Sarah is busy rubbing her hands all over the toilet as she sits on it - just because dh keeps telling her she shouldn't because it's dirty.

My other thought was that I'd given her a homeopathic remedy earlier that day - doesn't make sense really but the remedy was human milk and I wondered if maybe she had/has a slight intolerance to milk protien and that remedy put her over the edge.  I mentioned it to the homeopath and he was pretty emphatic that there was no relation.  I skipped all dairy for a week or so and didn't see any difference so...

Just glad it's gone away. :)

As for the eczema (how DO you spell that?) thanks for the tip on baby lotion.  Hannah has it a bit on her back - or just dry skin? especially after a bath.  I remember Sarah had it for the longest time too.

Sleep - last night was awesome.  They woke for a bit at 4am - talked to each other and then went back to sleep.  It was SO windy here though and their window isn't sealed so good so it HOWLED all night.  I'm actually surprised they went back to sleep.  It had woken me earlier in the night and I had a hard time going back to sleep.  In fact I got up to check the internet for tornado warnings.  We live in the country with no real shelter around so the wind is really strong here.  DH didn't sleep much either worrying about it too.

Cathy:  Ideal age between children?  Hmmm - Zoe and Sarah are 16months apart which was tough at first but would be so manageable now if I just had them.  I love that all our girls are so close - I think it will make family activities great.. but I also think that twins 19months after that was a bit much.  It's just a tad too hectic right now and I'm being more crabby than I'd like these days - ok that sounds silly because I like to not be crabby at all - so I guess that means I'm a 100% crabbier than I'd like :)

Off to see what Martha Stewart has to say.  Sarah's still holding the toilet hostage claiming to have to poop - she's been on there 15min at least now.  Dh just got out of the shower to find her still sitting there.  The minute you touch her to move her along she SCREAMS!! :)  I'm going to try to sneak past them down the hall and crawl in to bed with my hot tea and watch tv! :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 17, 2005, 02:14:48 am
Hi All

Well we didn't do very well on naps here today. We had two 45 min naps and a 35 minute nap.  I was planning on putting Brady to be by 7pm tonight, but at 6:30 while he was having his bottle, he fell asleep half way through....bad I know, I tried to wake him...and suceeded only to have a very cranky angry baby, who didn't want the rest of his milk. Sooo, we were off to bed, and yet again he only slept for 45 minutes. Then 20 minutes of trying to shush/rub him etc...and finally back to sleep. Now has been asleep for 30 minutes and hoping he'll make it past 45, keeping my fingers crossed....

Ankie, so sorry to hear about your nite, hope tonite is better for you hon.


As for feeding and cleaning Brady's face...I wipe between spoonfuls, so does dh....but cleaning his face is a HUGE chore, you'd think we had committed the ultimate sin....the looks and crys we get for trying to clean his face.... :oops:  :roll:

Traci...we eat at the same time here at nites as you do....LATE :x

Going to have to check out this milf.com... :?  :?:

bfn
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 17, 2005, 02:18:43 am
Judy - we were posting at the same time...glad to hear you had an awesome nite last nite....Yah!!! :!:


Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: B&BMommy on November 17, 2005, 02:21:41 am
Micky - Great Pic, love it....so cute!




Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005[/i]
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: james030405 on November 17, 2005, 04:17:16 am
Hi Jod,  in regards to eggs, i separate 2 eggs and mix the yolks with formula.  microwave for about 20sec and it comes out nice and creamy.  The first time James had egg was in a HEINZ egg custard - there were no problems with allergies etc so I went ahead with scrambled.  You could try that way if you are not sure about giving it to them straight.  Another way would be to put egg in with their veges or meat and mix it in. 

traci:  re: James bedtime.  I do put him to bed about 1/2hr early because he won't have catnap, so he is often up from about 2-2:30pm.  Maybe I will try and put back till 7pm like it use to be and see if that makes any difference.

I only wanted one child, but lately (since J has turned 7mths) I have been feeling clucky again.  I always thought 3 years difference would be good, but now I am thinking about my age.  I am 33 in a few weeks and I don't want to be more than 35 by the time if and when I have a 2nd.  When you take into consideration time-to-conceive and 9mths pregnancy (10mths for James - he went 40 weeks, 2 days :? ) then it doesnt really allow much time.  Will have to consider very soon either way because if we decide we definitely don[t want another one, I will do alternate contraception than thepil.  I hate taking it.


Chat soon

Lisa mumto James my textbook/spirited koala bear :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 17, 2005, 05:37:28 am
okay, where to start...wasn't able to chat as much as I wanted tonight so will have to write a lot now! :lol:

Traci and Richelle-I became a moderator last week in the nap forum.  It is going great so far but is a little hectic now that Matthew's Mommy has taken a break from moderating (that woman was a godsend to me when Taylor was young).

Glad to hear Taylor is not the only one who HATES to be wiped after meals...she freaks out!!!  BUT, like Carter, she doesn't mind in the tub :?

Yay Judy!!!  You are an inspiration to us all.  So funny about the toilet hostage thing!

I think 2 years is a good time between siblings.  I think we are going to TTC when Taylor turns 1.

Traci-so you are going to do the 9 month toilet training thing too huh?  None of us had talked about it yet at this point so was wondering.  I think it will be tough, but so worth it.  My mom had all 4 of us potty trained by the age of 1!  All of my nieces and nephews who are between 18-20 months right now haven't even started yet and can't imagine changing Taylor's diapiers for over 2 years!  Maybe I am being naive and unrealistic.

Jody-we are going to get Taylor the fisher price gym wall...my mom has arleady gotten her the attachment tunnel for it.  It looks cute and fun and encourages crawling/playing and is $54 at Target.  A lot of toy for only $54!  I think that will be the main gift and maybe jsut a couple of other small toys.  Lord knows the girl doesn't need anymore clothes!!!

 :?: Oh Oh Oh!!  I just remembered what I wanted to ask you guys all day today!  Do any of your lo's still have cradle cap?  Taylor got hers at 4months and it has gotten progressively worse.  We use the cradle cap kit from Gerber but only helps for a day or so.  It is now growing and is almost on her entire head!  poor dandruff baby!

okay, that's it for now...let me try an acronym-ttfnmfl!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 17, 2005, 07:29:47 am
Missed you all so much. A very busy 2 days at work but I had to pop on and check during my meal breaks but did not have time to post.
Cleaning-I wipe between mouthfuls and Sam does not seem to mind. In fact, he grabs the washcloth and wipes himself or otherwise uses his sleeve. Boogers/snot, I am so obsessive! I have quite long nails and I just use my fingers (sorry TMI! :oops: )
JUDY-Yay on the twins sleeping! LOL over toilet hostage situation!
ANKIE-Hope your night goes better.

Now, eczema! Sam is the king of eczema. The poor kid has had dreadful eczema since 8 weeks of age and we have spent a fortune in Dermatologist's fees! He is now much better as it is coming into summer here but I still use a truckload of moisturiser on him or he itches like crazy!! He has industrial strength moisturiser but DP lotion is a good start. I moisturise him 3 times a day but it is becoming a huge struggle as he is constantly trying to roll away.

ANDREA-the type of eczema Sam has is also the same as cradle cap except ALL OVER. He also had quite bad cradle cap. For that, I just used apricot oil masaged into his scalp and then just gently run a baby brush over it. The cradle cap gradually came away.

LISA- I hear you about ttc, age etc etc. I think it would be ideal if I got pregnant again when Sam turns 1 but who knows, with the time required to ttc, giving up BF. I too want to be this side of 35 when having the next one.

Christmas-Sam is getting a Winnie the Pooh book and CD set that I got free as part of a promotional offer. We are also going to get him something Leap Pad, cannot decide which yet. What does the phonics one do? I am also going to wrap a whole lot of different sized empty boxes in different types of wrapping paper as this seems to be the part of gifts that he enjoys the most!

Jobs-I am an Emergency Physician. I am really embarassed about telling people what I do as they then expect me to know more about babies than I do but of course, I only know what to do when they are really sick. I had/have no idea about BF, solids, sleep etc etc etc.

Enough from me, I am pooped as I only managed 4 hours sleep last night. Got home at 2 am and Sam started babbling at 4.30 am which woke me up and from then, it was interrupted shut eye. Must get me some sleep.
Take care,
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 17, 2005, 13:23:09 pm
Lisa-really quick.  I thought maybe James was going to bed LATER causing the early waking.  If he's skipping catnap I think you're right in putting him to bed earlier.  You could try to go back to 7pm but I'm not sure that will work.  Of course, Cole had two short naps yesterday and seemed overtired and woke at 6am today (instead of 5:30-YAY) so maybe I'm wrong. :?   have I just confused you more. LOL

Had a good night.  Fed at 8:50 (earlier than I would have liked).  He woke at 1:40am.  By the time I put my hair back and went pee he was starting to settle!  yay...i didn't have to go in. woke at 4:10, fed one boob, woke at 6 for the day.  yippee!!

okay, i'll type out my fairytale story of meeting DH later today while Cole is napping it will take a while.

Andrea-Cole had very minor cradle cap.  I massaged olive oil into his scalp and used a fine tooth comb to comb it off.  Is that similar to the gerber kit?  I've heard lice combs work well also...but i could only find the metal ones and they seemed very sharp. I just used what I call an "old man" comb hee hee...one of the simple black plastic ones.

Karen-The Phonics bus has the alphabet all around it and it says each letter when they press it, sings the alphabet song etc. It has a few little people in it and when you place them in the bus a different song plays or something like that.
The fridge magnet is cool.  When you place a letter in the frame it reads what letter it is and says things like "C, C says Cat" or some such thing!

okay, he's had enough of the saucer and it's time to wind down.

"see" you all later girls
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 17, 2005, 14:22:34 pm
How was the chat?  Sorry to have missed it.

I did the same as Traci for cradle cap, olive oil and an 'old man' comb.  I let the oil soak in for awhile then scratch/comb.

Traci - Good for you and good for Cole!

Sophie was not interested in her cereal this AM but would gladly have her gerber fruit puffs and some bits of banana.  Ankie is Arwyn still into cheerios more than her food?  I think it is her teeth as she is sprouting 4 all at once here. Erin I know Katie got all thise teeth and she was refusing solids for awhile, was this all at the same time?

Anywho must run.....good day/night everyone
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 17, 2005, 14:46:09 pm
Okay, I will start this post with a *warning-VERY long*.  I said on the chat that I'd share my story about meeting DH and here it is.  Feel free to skip if you don't find the topic enticing :P

The thing is, I was engaged when I met DH (Tony).  I will refer to EX as, well, EX throughout to make things easier.

Some background:

I met EX in my first year of University.  We were on and off for 7 years from 1990-1997.  Looking back I really regret being with the same guy all through school.  I feel there was a lot of fun that I missed out on.  Not just with guys...but with girls too as I spent so much time with him.  He was two years older than me so should have been done school before me but was a total slacker.  He came back for a 5th year.  And it turns out it was to get me back after breaking up.
The summer before that school year we were broken up and I was seeing someone else.  EX was living in city where our school was and so was my *best* friend from first year.  We had lived together for 2 years since (me and BF).  Anyway, I heard through the grapevine that BF and EX had sex.  Isn't that great.  He said if he couldn't have me he'd have the next best thing. :twisted:   Anyway, I had already signed a lease with this girl for my last year of school so I ended up living with her.  Thankfully there were three other girls and I played varsity soccer so i was too busy to notice she was even there. phew, my thoughts are everywhere girls so please try to follow me.
Ex used drugs, including steroids.  Don't ask me what attracted me to him.  Looking back he was a LOSER.   I think as the years went on I thought I could *fix* him.  Lessened learned-you cannot!
In that last year of school he tried to commit suicide and that's when I got back together with him.  I thought it was because of me and was my fault.  I know better now of course.
Anyhoo, the next few years are much of the same, drugs, steroids, working out, roid rages...etc.
He starts his own business and to make a long story short 5 months before our wedding buys a $50 000 car with money we don't have.  I'm working two jobs saving for the wedding and he's out flaunting who knows what!! 
SO-I get a new job-just happens to be the place I'm still at.  I have to go to Boston for a six week training period.  There were 5 of us that went.  One of which was a good friend of DHs (Tony's).

The day I arrived it was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders.  Not having to deal with EX, our money issues, his rage and anger at the world.  He came down the second weekend I was there and it was awful. 
We spent the whole weekend working out, trying to eat by the "zone" and yes, I even got to stick him with a needle-FUN!

The following weekend Tony and some friends came down to see his friend I worked with.  We met on a Friday evening.  I KNEW that night that I would marry him.  Knew it with all of my body and soul :P  :wink: It was so wonderful to be around a smiling, laughing funny guy for a change.  We hit it off right away.  I spent the whole weekend with him.  I was out until 2 or 3 every night and up at 9 the next day.  EX couldn't reach me, so worried he almost flew down!

For the next few weeks of my training I spoke with Tony every night on the phone.  spoke with EX maybe twice.

when I got home on a tuesday EX picked me up at airport.  It took me until thursday to somehow pick a fight and end it.  That saturday tony's friend had a BBQ.  Tony and I were the first to arrive and I was there sans (without in french) ring.

The rest is history ladies.  That summer was a whirlwind of fun and romance like I've never experienced. As I mentioned last night, I was only the second woman DH had been with (he was 27 year old!) His high school sweetheart and broken his heart in February by cheating on him.  He took it very hard, lost about 25 lbs, couldn't eat etc.  Anyway-it took him a LONG time to trust again and that's why we didn't get married until 2003.

I am such a lucky woman to have found him.  I am so fortunate to have gotten out of such a rotten relationship and thankful I had the courage to do so!

OH-and as I mentioned last night.  I used to go out to bars with Tony fearful of running into EX (EX had beaten the crap out of one of my EXs in the past for no reason).  never did.  UNTIL the big night.  The only time I bumped into him was the night of my BACHORLETTE party.  And I looked great I must add :wink:

I had seen him once about a year previous because i stayed in touch with his sister.  They ambushed me.  She invited me over for dinner and he showed up.  I didn't like it one bit.  Anyway, he ended up marrying a girl we went to school with (not my BF) named Stacy and his family kept calling her Traci LOL  They had a son.  That night at the bar I just kept telling him to go home to his boy.  *sigh* thank god I got out.

okay...i think that's enough.  So Tony is my prince charming :P
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 17, 2005, 14:53:31 pm
Traci - LOVE the story and so glad that you found your prince charming and got away from the loser EX.  I'll type mine when I have time, but it's SO not as romantic as that, since it involves fraternity parties and throwing up, I kid you not. 

Richelle - Katie didn't eat solids for something like 4 days when she got all those teeth.  She went right back to it when she was done.

Have to run!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 17, 2005, 15:33:47 pm
Hey, ladies. 
Traci, that was a fun read, but I'm sure wasn't fun to live through.  Glad you got out and got happy!!!   :D

Regarding the eczema (correct spelling, btw. Some of you got it!):  Apparently it is a "chronic condition that can be treated, but not cured!"   :shock:   Great! 
Here are the directions from my ped. 
"In the bath, use a mild soap, such as Dove, Neutrogena, or Cetaphil lotion.  Moisturize the skin every day...within 3 minutes of getting out of the bath, after patting dry.  Creams are much better than lotions, and generally the greasier the better.  Some good moisturizing creams are:  Eucerin Cream, Moisturel Cream, Aquaphor Ointment, and Vaseline Petroleum Jelly.  About half of children outgrow eczema, although usually after many years of dealing with it."   :?   Not such a rosy picture. 

Ryan is acting like a little ens the last few days.  Cranky, sucking his thumb  :( , and not so interested in bf-ing.  It might be, it could be...we'll keep you posted.  I have to go to an eye doctor's appt. this afternoon.  Keep your fingers crossed that Ryan will be okay.  Otherwise I might have to call dh's grandparents to babysit.  They don't really like to do things last minute, so I'm hoping he'll cooperate and be fine to go with me.  Major clinginess going on and all he wants to do is stand up and dance/bounce around.  Fun, but hard to do anything else.  Speaking of which, I'd better go clean just in case they do come over!

Hope you are all doing well!!!  Thanks for all the great present ideas.  We are going small scale, since he'll be spoiled by everyone else.  I've already been told to start a list and have added a lot of your ideas.  WE have the Leap Frog spinning ball and it's great for tummy time...pretty much the same as the bus, I think.  Okay, really going now!
Love, Kate   8)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 17, 2005, 16:27:36 pm
Andrea... cradle cap... in the bath, we would wash her hair first, scrub it with a baby brush, leave it in while she had a bath and then rinse and scrub again with the baby brush. Arwyn developed it at about 6 weeks?? and it lasted until a couple of months ago if I recall correctly.

Richelle... Arwyn didn't eat any solids for about a week before and after her teeth. Now, if she doesn't "want" solids, she will flatly refuse them. Erin or Kate? suggested I give her finger foods instead of puree. This works occasionally... takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r mind you, to watch her eat peas. Also, she choked on a piece of apple that she managed to chomp off so... I don't do it anymore. So far, this week, she has only refused solids this morning but ate tonnes of Cheerios  :roll: . (DH starting giving them to her while eating his breakfast... no surprise she didn't want her apples and cereal.)

Traci... very romantic. So happy for you that you have a wonderful marriage and family now.

Had a very crappy night... next verse, same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse  :roll: . It was great up until 2 am... then, major separation anxiety. Would wake up and cry every time DH or I leaves the room after settling her. (and we stayed for about 15 minutes each time, too.) This went on for about 2 hours ... of us going in and out... at which time, I plunked her on the futon with me and she was fine, fell asleep instantly and then woke at 6 am... too tired to think, so popped a boob in, slept until 6:45 am. Bless DH for taking her and rolling her around in her walker with him while he gets ready for work. I slept until 7:40 at which time, Arwyn was signing "milk" at about 100 km/hr!

Gotta go... restless baby in an exersaucer!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 17, 2005, 17:39:35 pm
hi girls!

Jack is waking earlier and earlier....I don't get what is going on!!!  He was waking at 730am then it became 630....this am it was 545!!!!! :shock:   I tried cutting out his catnap yesterday thinking maybe he was getting too much daytime sleep.  He did well without it.  He had maybe 2- 2 1/2 hours of nap time.  He went to bed no problem at 730 pm then woke at 5:45 and we could not get him back to sleep! :shock:

traci: loved the story....don't we all have one of those retarded EX's that you would just shake you head at now??!!  I dated this guy (Jared) for about a month before he decided to move in with me.  He had major issues!!  Chronic pot smoker, control freak, socially inept, etc, etc.  He was a veterinarian and had a nice dog.  That was about the only positives to him.  He was so controlling he hated when I had friends over, hated when my family was in town, hated when I was on the phone with anyone (including my sisters-he was afaid I was talking about him! :roll: ).  Anyways, I finally told him to get out of my house by x-day.  Well, he started crying saying that "he couldn't afford to move out esp. with a dog and that he was going to go to work and put him down".  So I told him "Fine, leave the dog and get out!"  So moving day (x-day) comes and he hasn't packed anything and instead leaves first thing in am to go skiing.  By the time he came home that afternoon I had packed everything of his including his computer , desk , etc and had it all at the front door waiting for him.  He came home and said "what's all this about?"  I shot back " What don't you get about 'get the F*@# OUT??!!'"  So needless to say he moved out the next day, I got the locks changed the same day.....he tried to get back into the house that night....thank God I changed the locks!!! :shock:   About a month later a girlfriend of mine set me up on a blind date (after much prodding and harrassing me :D ).  The blind date ended up being my DH after dating for 11 months we were married! :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 17, 2005, 17:53:25 pm
Eczema-wise - Katie doesn't have it (yet - I'm keeping my fingers crossed), but I actually did as a baby and still have some patches of it to this day.  LOTS and LOTS of moisturizer, especially after bathing, especially in the winter months.  If you have really hard water, that's supposed to make it worse - I find that when I remember to fill up our water softener, mine gets better.  My mom works for a dermatologist, I'll have to ask her what they recommend over-the-counter wise, if it gets really bad I know there's a few different prescriptions out there.  For me, it only bothers me when it gets cold out, and I get it behind my ears, on my elbows, and on my eyelids. 
HTH and I'll get back to you after I talk to my mom.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 17, 2005, 17:58:46 pm
I so love hearing those stories.. I will quickly write mine- I love it!

I had dated a "tool" for about 2 year.. cheated on me 3 times ( it was long distance for a year as I was going to school). Well the day after he forgot my b-day I called him said I never wanted to talk to him again ( really I said it!) and he did the old "can we be friends" and I let him know that for it to really be over we couldn't talk. Went out with my 2 best friends got my tongue peirced, and started partying . For 2 months stright I was out 4 nights a week. ( I was 19 so it was okay,  I had the energy!) I ran out of $$ really quick and had to find a second job.

My Dh was working as a supervisor for an Ambulance station in a small town 2 hours from here, and his buddy was from Calgary... they decided to meet in the middle in Edmonton - where I was. They forgot their cell phone at a pub on the monday night...


I started working at this pub on the tues. morning. Sean and his friend came into the pub got the phone and drove away... they decided to turn around and eat because they were so hungover and hungry. I saw them come in and asked my "trainer" if I could serve their table ( I had the hots for Sean as soon as I saw him)..

So he was my first table! 1/2 way through the meal he asked me what I was doing that night .. I said going out... where?...blah blah... "I'll meet you there"... and he did- was right at the door...

The funny thing is that the last song of the night was "amazed" by Lonestar. I had never heard the song, but Sean had. He grabbed my hand and whispered to me (no lie!) "the girl Im  gonna marry, this will be our wedding song" AND IT WAS!

Thanks for reading, I love this story!

jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 17, 2005, 18:04:36 pm
I'm loving the "how we met" stories!  Keep them coming.  Funny how many drug using exs you find in Canada?  Hmmm...

I married my retarded Ex :D  Just kidding!!

I was a party girl with a gang of girlfriends.  We didn't date men, we just used them when we saw fit.  I met my DH when I was 13.  Our older brothers were the same age and used to play street hockey together.  They were missing a goalie one day so my brother brought me in.  Little did they know I was the 'secret weapon' and we won.  Needless to say all  the boys thought I was hot  and me and DH maintained a flirty friendship all through high school.

We never dated, kissed or anything and went our seperate ways during uni.  We'd talk every few months for hours about what and who we were doing.  He had bought and apartment right out of school and I ended up moving about 10 blocks away from him.  We started hanging out more and more and friends started asking more and more questions.  One day I asked him "what's up" and he said that I was like his sister.  I said no problem and started dating this cute, older guy.  Well DH (then) flipped and decided he could get over the whole sister thing. 

That was 8 years ago! I'm so glad he had a change of heart.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 17, 2005, 20:15:08 pm
My "favorite show" keeps getting better and better!   :D  Jody, think of all the things that had to fall into place for you to meet your dh and have those darling girls!  Gives me goosebumps, I tell ya!   

Before I forget, the CD is called Hap Palmer Early Childhood Classics.  Here is an example of the twists:  Sings "I'm a Little Teapot" that we all know, then the music changes and the teapot is at the party having a great time, then it changes again and she's so tired from the party and they sing about cleaning her up ("don't forget my spout").  Sounds dorky, but it's really cute and I know Ryan will love it and I don't think I'll get tired of hearing them over and over and over and...

Here's my love story..not nearly as exciting as the rest of you.  Matt (dh) and I met the first week of our freshman year at school (aka uni).  We started dating in October and "going out exclusively" (aka sleeping together  :lol: )  in December.  We've been together ever since...11 years later!  BORING story, but not a boring man, so I'll take it! 

Sorry about the poopy night, Ankie!  My mom's group and I were discussing this last night, too.  Sep./stranger anxiety is really annoying, isn't it?  Good luck!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 17, 2005, 20:57:13 pm
I am loving the stories ladies.  Keep them coming.

Ankie, might I suggest something?  Doesn't Tracy say to bring a mattress or whatnot into their room in a case of illness/separation anxiety etc?  I think I remember you saying the futon is in her room?  Would she sleep if you slept on the futon and her in the crib?  That might be a short term solution for a couple of night to reassure her that you're there??

Ladies, my father phoned today.  He spent yesterday in the hospital.  The lining of his stomach is bleeding.  He's to go in for triple by-pass the 28th of this month but can't go ahead unless they stop this.  He was calling from a pub :twisted:  commenting on how he was having lunch without alcohol.  And saying it wasn't any fun.  I simply said it was about time someone told you not to drink, that it's a slow poison.  His response "want to talk to your mom?"  Anyway, he goes to see a specialist tomorrow to see what can be done.  I am fearing the worst.  As I mentioned before he had major surgery in Oct 2003 and has never really recovered.  (Whipple procedure-removal of part of the pancreas for cancer)
They are acting like all of this is no big deal.  They've been renovating their house so they've been staying up north at a resort (timeshare they just bought).  Anyway, I asked if they'd be in town Saturday as I'm going there for a baby shower anyway and they said no.  After his appt with the specialist tomorrow they're heading back up.  How stupid is that?  They aren't letting anyone spend time with them and I honestly don't think my dad is going to last much longer.  As a result of them being so nonchalant about stuff like this I feel a very strange detachment about the whole thing.  It doesn't keep me up at night.  It makes me sad, but as I've said before he's an adult and has chosen to live this life (alcoholic) regardless of what any of us say (they're are 4 of us, I have 3 older brothers).
I feel like I'm just a coldhearted b*tch for not really feeling anything.  It's just so hard to watch him kill himself and not have any power to help or do anything :oops:

okay, i just needed to get that out.  thanks for listening.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 17, 2005, 21:20:23 pm
traci...don't worry about venting!!  That's what we are here for!  It's hard dealing with alcoholism esp. when its a family member!  I hope his visit with the specialist goes well.  Alcoholism is a hard disease to stop especially when the person is in denial.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 17, 2005, 21:22:59 pm
Hi Everyone,

Can you tell me how to do a quote? I have tried a few things and can't quite do it !! 

Judy - so cute about the twins talking to each other :lol:

I will have to read up about the toilet training in BWSAYP and join in with whoever else is going to do it.

Great stories about meeting your dh's. I will post mine when I have more time. Meanwhile since Teresa posted a love letter from her dh and got such an overwhelming response I thought I would post one from mine if you can handle it: :wink:

Babe, gone surfing, love you xxx
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 17, 2005, 21:48:42 pm
LOL at the love letter from dh Bec. AT first I was thinking , oh I guess she forgot to attach it...and then I saw it :)
Great stories ladies.  I have so enjoyed reading all of them. 
Lots of druggies down here in the states too Roz.  I seemed to be able to attract them like crazy (not dh, thankfully) My EX DH (and here it DOES mean  head!) was a chronic pot user.  Sad.  I think he was majorly depressed.  We had been married for 4 years before the divorce.  I had been begging him to get help for about 3.9 of those 4 years and he never did.  I finally got fed up and left...right after he went into inpatient rehab...it was too late I guess.   After the divorce I started dating a "reformed" pot smoker/gorgeous surfer...who very quickly becase a renewed pot smoker. Stayed with him for two years, slowly realizing that there must be something a little off with me if these are the guys I'm attracted too.   Never moved in together thank goodness.  If we had, I am sure we would have had a scene much like yours Micky...he was a really nice total loser.  Parents still supporting him and the works.
Anyhow...I think I had pretty much given up on marriage/babies etc.  After about two years of the single/dating life at age 30...ugh.  Then one day a colleague asked if she could give my number to a friend of her's son and I was like "Sure why not?  It's probably not going to work out anyway" :(...I was a little jaded. 
He called and we went out and I actually liked him alot.  I had some hang ups about him that I slowly got over in the year that we dated before suddenly, I was preggo with Sophie.  We decided to have her and get married and the rest is history.  It sounds so unromantic.  But actually Mike is really an amazing man.  He surprises me all the time....as we are really still getting to know each other.  And we have both been married before and neither of us are at all interested in any bs...it's very real and he is actually quite romantic. Although he is the butt of many of my jokes,  I would not change a thing.
Although it would be nice to fix the mismatched sex- drive thing, in all seriousness.  I mean really, those of you who share this problem, what do you do?  Do it anyway even though you don't feel like it?  Or only do it when you do?  (WHich would probably be about once a week or so for me...sorry if tmi)

Judy I was lol at your post about the twins talking to each other and Sara and the toilet!   
Traci I am so sorry about your dad.  I totally kwym...drug addiction/alcoholism are so similar.  You just get to the point where you can't give any more to the situation.  With my ex, I just had nothing left, even though he was trying to change at that point, the well was just dry.
11years kate...that's amazing!
Thanks for the eczema info and spelling.  I bought some aquaphor today. And some formula...boy is that stuff expensive!! I'm down to two pumps a day...weaning myself to go back to work.  It's going to cost us almost $100 a month just for formula!!!  Yikes!
Jody was it you who pierced her tongue post realtionship?  I pierced my belly button...needless to say it wears a jewel no longer...actually the surfing with ex bf got in the way before little tiny girlfriend did...but my scar is Sooooo staretched out now. 
There's so much more to comment on, but I'll leave it at that for now.
Take care ladies.
hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 17, 2005, 22:03:28 pm
Traci - I am sorry to hear about your dad, though I do agree with the other ladies that you can only give so much, and now you've got Cole and he is the center of your universe and you just don't have the time and energy.  So, feel what you think you should feel and don't worry about it (easier said than done I'm sure).

Jody, Hannah, Roz, Kate, Micky - love the stories.  Hannah, I'd say it was meant to be and Sophie was just meant to be part of your life.

Bec - ROTFLMAO at DH's love note.   :lol:

Ankie - hang in there - sounds like you've had some rough nights!

All righty, I've got a few minutes here -- DH and I went to college together, he's two years older than me, had been in a long term relationship that he just got out of, was out every night, hooking up every night with a different girl, just happy to be out of the prior relationship.  Anyway, I had some good friends in his fraternity and we were there one night drinking, playing beer pong (I'm sure at least one of you ladies know the game) against DH (who prior to now had been a friend of mine)and I had...um...a wee bit too much.  Too much as in I went to throw the ball and threw up on the floor instead.  Lovely.  Fast forwad a few hours to where I was heading back to the dorm with my roommate and a couple of DH's housemates to watch a movie or something...one of DH's housemates calls home to see what's up and DH tells him - "You're with Erin and Lori (my roommate) - bring them back here since we're having a party.  We got there and -- you guessed it -- no party -- apparently he just made the whole thing up so we could hook up (after I threw up on the floor mind you).  The next morning, we both awoke in his bathroom (as I was still getting sick -- how gross is this story?) and promptly didn't talk for a few weeks.  Until he started calling me every day.  We were "officially" dating a few months later (as opposed to whatever you call all the other nights I spent at his house).  Needless to say, I think we're going to have to make something up when Katie is old enough to ask about this.

OK, I really have to go be productive, I've spent way too much time here already today.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 17, 2005, 22:28:31 pm
ROTFLMAO at the love letter, Bec!!!  :lol:

Traci... My empathy to you, girlfriend. It is so disheartening to watch a loved one destroy themselves but it is out of your control. Try to make the best of the time you spend with or talk to your father... if you think he doesn't have much time left, make it count. You won't change him or his behaviour but you have control over the memories you create for him, yourself and Cole right now.

Judy... I love it that the twins talk to each other! How very cute.

Eczema... I use Aveeno everything for Arwyn. They make several products just for eczema... a baby bath soak and a very thick cream. I found they work very well. Arwyn had a few patches when she was younger. Sometimes they come back... especially if I haven't been lubing her up!

I love all the stories about meeting DH! Before I met DH, I had a real loser of a drug addict boyfriend too  :roll: . So glad I ditched that "DH".

Here's mine... not so exciting. We were getting ready to go up to Whistler (ski resort town) to celebrate a friend's birthday. We were all ready to go when the birthday girl says we have to wait for one more... he (my now DH) is going to be late. I was basically the first person there so I was rolling my eyes (type A personality... can you tell?)

Well... he gets there and we jump in the cars to go. I end up following him because I was not so sure about the directions after getting off the highway. He damn near kills us all by cutting across 3 lanes of traffic to take the exit (at which time, I start swearing and yelling at a passenger of mine to phone the car ahead) and I fume all the way there.

I spent most of the weekend ignoring him (had my sights set on another man) but the last afternoon there, everyone was napping and I ended up talking to him for hours. He called me everyday for a week when we got back... I finally agreed to meet him and his friends at a nightclub the next weekend. I had too much to drink  :oops:  (no throwing up though  :wink: ) and ended up going back to his place.  :oops:  We have been together ever since. 7 years and counting!

I am with Erin... have to make something up when Arwyn is old enough to ask how I met her dad. Don't want her doing what I did.  :roll:

Are we starting a new thread soon? Already at 100 pages and it feels like we just started this one.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 17, 2005, 22:30:22 pm
Hi, phew that was a lot to get thru. Away from the computer for a day and so much has happened.

I'm interested in the excema remedies. Daniel has it in a few places and nothing seems to really work. Maybe I don't stick with things long enough. When you're talking about lotion do you mean a general moisturiser lotion? For babies of course. I've got one called Aqueous cream, I didn't think it helped much as a little little baby though. His ankle is really bad and I'm now trying to sort that one out, very dry and I see him scratching it by rubbing it on the floor all the time.

Oh, he's woken up after 1.5h nap (no complaints there!) and we've got to get ready to go out. So I'll check in later.

I have some food/routine questions. Feeling a bit depressed about the whole food thing and he just doesn't enjoy it.

See you later girls.

PS Got a good 'how we met' story and as for face cleaning, I try to keep Daniel's clean, I'm a bit of a clean freak. And if he had boogies, I'd be wiping those for sure!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 17, 2005, 23:10:21 pm
Ladies, I love all of the stories!  It's so weird how you meet people eh?  Mine is very boring but here goes:

DH and I started dating in Grade 12 (so when we were 17!!).  I had always dated jocks and I had just broken up with the last one and went to a party to "drown my sorrows"  ... although at that age (being underage and not really a drinker) you don't really drown your sorrows.  Anyway, Luke was there and he hung out with me all night and even helped me out with a friend of mine who had passed out from drinking too much.  Anyway, 2 months later we were dating exclusively.  Fast forward to university where things get more interesting.  Luke decided to go to Windsor for automotive engineering and I went to Waterloo for psychology so we were 3 hours apart.  We ended up driving to see each other every other weekend.  We did break up (I ended it part way through 1st year because of another guy) but we got back together the next summer.  After I finished my psych degree I went to Ridgetown to get my vet tech degree so now we were only an hour apart.  By this time Luke had graduated and was working for Roush racing in Detroit (his dream job ... if any of you watch Nascar).  I had refused to ever live in Windsor (hated the city) and told him to get a job around home (Orangeville).  Well, it is a couple of years later, we got married in 2003, we live in Windsor, Luke still works in Detroit and it doesn't look like we will ever leave  :(

We are trying to sell our house though and maybe move out into the county.  It has been up for 2 months and I think if it doesn't sell soon then we will wait until spring to relist it.  Our real estate lady is due to give birth in 1 week and she is still taking on new clients.  She says she is going to be back at work as soon as she is released from the hospital  :shock:   

Anywhoo, DH is home from work and he's hungry so I guess I have to figure out what to make for dinner  :roll:

Talk later
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 17, 2005, 23:17:45 pm
Quote from: Arwyn's mom

Traci... My empathy to you, girlfriend. It is so disheartening to watch a loved one destroy themselves but it is out of your control. Try to make the best of the time you spend with or talk to your father... if you think he doesn't have much time left, make it count. You won't change him or his behaviour but you have control over the memories you create for him, yourself and Cole right now.


Ankie, you made me cry. Thank you so much for saying this.  I'm so filled with bitterness that I'd almost forgotten that I have to make the best of what little time is left.  I never even thought he'd live to see the day I gave him a grandchild so I should take advantage as much as possible.  And thank you to everyone else for your kind words of encouragement. 

Bec LOL about the note.  It's so bizarre to me that surfing is an everyday thing people do somewhere in the world!  seems like such a "movie-star" thing to do  8)

Love the fact that some of you will have to make up stories of how you met.  And I'm sorry Ankie but no matter what you tell her it could still happen that way for her :shock:

Hannah.  Gosh, where do I begin on the sex drive thing.  I've actually considered taking drugs for it.  Seriously.  Sorry if that's TMI girls.  I actually offered DH an out before he became my DH.  I have NO drive and I don't think it's fair to him.  I know that I CAN have a drive.  I enjoyed about the first 6 months of our relationship when it was all new and exciting so I know it's possible.  I guess we maybe just have to spice things up a bit.  I think much of it has to do with my self esteem.  I really let myself go for a while (by my standards) and just didn't feel sexy.  Believe it or not I'm finally starting to feel good about myself again.  BFg is helping me drop the pounds like crazy.  My legs haven't looked this good in ages.  My tummy on the other hand, well, I'll have to work on that. I've always hated my legs though but I guess with all the walking and bending up and down and playing with Cole is paying off.
So-as for when we do it.  Not often.  Couldn't tell you the last time to be honest.  The thing is now is that they stitched me up too tight (again, sorry if tmi).  We tried at 3 months, 4 months and I think maybe 3 times after that.  It is getting better but if I didn't have drive before you can imagine it now when it actually hurts! *sigh* i actually cry about it sometimes.  it makes me sad that I don't want him the way he wants me.  I want to so badly too.  here i go again sobbing like a baby.  maybe i'm getting AF for the first time or something.  I'm a mess right now :oops:  god, i hope DHs coworkers wife didn't join the board and is reading this!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 17, 2005, 23:44:06 pm
Ooooh, I love the stories and all of you who say your stories are boring are crazy, they are all very sweet, every one of them has given me goosebumps!!

Here goes mine:

After University, I decided to come to the Cayman Islands to make some big bucks(the Cayman dollar doubles the Canadian dollar :shock: ), party, get a tan, pay off my student loan, basically anything but grow up.  I got a job bartending and was having a GREAT time, Cayman is definately a PARTY island, has a huge young, ex-pat population, wakeboarded everyday and bartended everynight.  I did manage to pay off my student loans in 8 months so I wasn't a complete hammer head!  Anyway I have always been sort of a "free spirit" if you will?  I will try anything once and had only ever had one serious reltionship. 

DH lived very close to the bar I worked at and would frequent quite regularly (I found out later he was there so often b/c of me  :wink: ) and we ended up e-mailing eachother all the time - it was the weirdest thing ever.  Then we progressed to being friends and we got along so great, I had a huge crush on him and loved his english accent but I thought we got along way too good as friends to risk pouncing him, of course it didn;t cross my mind that we could have a relationship  :roll: .

One night we went out with a bunch of friends to a weird beach rave and ended up making out and haven't stopped since :lol: !  We moved in together a month later, I asked HIM to marry me a month after that.  We got married a little less than a year later.  We had been married for 3 years when I got preggers with Sophie!

It has been cool but tought sometimes being from different corners of the world and not living closer to family but I also think it makes us stronger as a family.  I am still head over heels for this guy and got all teary telling the story....

PS.  I am at work - talk about slacking or what heehee!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 18, 2005, 00:04:49 am
Traci - weposted at the same time.  Don't feel bad about your lack of drive, it is your body's way of protecting itself from another pregnancy  :shock: !!  It takes ONE year for a woman's body to be what it was pre - preganancy and birth and sometimes our bodies and our minds (which really do effect one another) will never be the same as we are now mom's and react to evrything different now - even smells!  It is like a complete overhaul and I know your DH understands that.  Also let yourself go?  I have seen pic's of you gorlfriend - oyu are gorgeous!!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 18, 2005, 00:06:11 am
Jeez - I should have taken some more time and care writing that - sorry I hope you get my point Traci!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 18, 2005, 00:30:06 am
thanks Richelle...it was an issue long before DS came along unfortunately... :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

I think I need to take steps to spice things up a bit :wink:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kate585 on November 18, 2005, 02:41:44 am
Hello, my friends!  Man, this is my 3rd post here today...no wonder it's 101 already!   :oops:

Traci, so sorry about your dad.  Ankie (sage that she seems to be) is right about making the most of your time.  Call your mom and see if she can get your Dad to stay in town one more day to see you.  Also, I lol-ed at your comment about dh's coworker.  That was too funny. 
(Possible TMI alert...not sure):  In the bedroom, I am much the same as you.  It is not so enjoyable anymore and we're both way tired, but make sure we...ummm...get together? once a week usually.  (Hannah, you must think me a total slacker.   :lol: )  Traci, you are such a planner, I think you might like this suggestion.  We have a book called "101 Nights of Grrrrreat Sex!"  You and dh each pull an envelope out and keep it a secret.   It tells you something to plan for the week ahead.  It tells you how much time and $$$ it'll take to do so you can plan accordingly.  It's all a surprise and you just set it up and then pounce some night.  One time dh had to create a beach atmosphere...bathtub with floating candles then a backrub with some smelly lotion.  We haven't actually used it in a long time...maybe you've inspired me to get it back out.   :wink:   There's another version called "101 Grrrrreat Quickies" (I think) where it has no planning involved, but it gives you ideas to spice things up.
HTH

Erin, I laughed at your frat story...too funny and too familiar for a lot of us, I'm sure. 
Richelle, I am impressed with you...8 months to pay off those loans and enough time to wakeboard and meet a man and you got to live in the Caymans while doing it?  You go, girl!   :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 18, 2005, 02:51:23 am
Traci - I have the same problem with the stitched up too tight thing  :x Not sure what to do -have you asked your dr about it or anyone? I am going to see my Womens Health Nurse but keep putting it off because I got a little bit sick of people 'poking around' down there :roll: I still can't work out how to do a quote but what you said about feeling better about yourself - just keep thinking that way. Blokes don't expect us to look like supermodels - in fact they find a women who has confidence in herself much more sexy than one who complains about themselves all the time KWIM? I hope that comes across the way I mean it too :?

I met my DH (we're not married so what is he really DF ??) 10 years ago. I was working at a lawyers office and I would take the cash to the bank each day to deposit. One day I was walking back from the bank and DH stopped at the pedestrian crossing for me to cross. I had my hair up and wearing a business suit, carrying a brief case etc...anyway he thought I was 'posh' but pretty hot stuff so he watched to see where I went. From then on he would come down town the same time to see if he could see me again. Apparently he tried all sorts of things to get my attention but I never noticed him. He would even go into the pie shop where i bought my lunch and say hello and I just ignored him (I don't know how I missed him because of the size of him). After a while he decided I was too 'up myself' and probably wouldn't go out with him anyway and gave up. A few months later he spotted me again but this time it was different.. I was in the middle of the mosh pit at a heavy metal concert with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other !!! He decided maybe I was for him after all  :lol: Sorry this is getting kind of long - Not long after my friends and I were at the pub and he just walked straight up and asked for my number in front of everyone. I was so embarresed I said "I don't have a pen and neither does anyone else" He walked away but came back later to try again. Finally he said - "well if no-ones got a pen then we can go outside and i will scratch the number in the road with a rock, then tomorrow I will drive back here and copy it down" For some reason I really liked that idea :?  so a few days later he called and we went to the movies!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 18, 2005, 03:18:42 am
Traci sorry to hear things aren't so great for your dad right now. :(

As for drive... first off bf'ng wreaks havoc with sensations.  I've know women who've had c-sections who have had pain during intercourse afterwards and there's no stitching involved.  I found with my first two that things drastically improved after I stopped bf'ng and basically jumped in for like a week straight.  Started out horribly painful but got better fast.

Prior to having kids my drive was crazy - dh used to be the one telling me no and he'd say he did that simply because he could knowing that anytime he wanted it he'd get it. :roll:  and now ... gosh sex is the last thing I think about ever.  Honestly my drive is dead right now - but then again, I'm pretty darn exhausted and used up by the end of the day (ok, by noon really :)).  Having 4 children so young is really tough on a marriage - there's just so little time available for us to spend time together on our own, even to talk... just wait for those of you one your first - when your little ones are older and talking - gosh Zoe just HATES it if dh and I try to have a conversation at dinner.  Well Sarah too - she'll get whiny or act out, throw her supper or something but Zoe will actually start harping "daddy daddy daddy DAAAADDDDYYYYY I'm taaaalkiiiiing to youuuuuuuu!!!"  It's nearly impossible - we can't hear each other.  And neither of us feel right telling them to hush - I mean they haven't seen daddy all day either and he is their world.  And it's family time too so we both want to chat with them and help them learn to converse.  And once supper is done is the race to get the dishes done, baths, babies to bed, older girls in jammies, teeth brushed, in to bed and STAYING in bed.  Man Sarah was bouncing off the walls at 9pm and that's with no daytime nap. In fact she finally settled a bit after bouncing right into dh's eye and hurting both of them quite badly!  So by the time all the 'work' is done, dh sits on the couch and is asleep within 20min.  Who has time for sex?

I teased him this morning because I complained at 6.30am that I was freezing cold and he got up and went down and put wood on the fire.  I said "you know, some couples would have just cuddled!"  LOL :)

I guess the biggest difference for us is we both see it the same way.  It's not like he's asking and I'm saying no or avoiding.  He's said it himself that there's just no time to think or worry about it.  He and I have talked about  friends of mine who's dh's are complaining about not getting enough and MY dh's comment is always the same - that if one partner isn't interested then the other partner needs to work harder at helping them feel interested rather than feeling upset or rather than the one less interested feeling guilty.

Wow - how's that for evening conversation? :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 18, 2005, 04:18:17 am
Oh my!  What fun stories.  I will add mine tomorrow probably. 
About sex... I was once ready to go anytime and anywhere.  This was all the way up to having Ben 9 months prego and huge!  Then the baby came and my drive is nowhere to be found.  Oh I feel so bad for DH and am constantly telling him that he needs to warm me up longer.  I don't think he understands what has happened because before all he needed to do was walk in the room.  We have had some different issues along the way that have affected our sex lives... the book THe Gift of Sex by Clifford and Joyce Penner is great.  It has a sections on sexual excercises that don't always include the act that really helped DH when he was having issues a while ago.  Lots of rubbing, massaging, and getting sensual without actually doing the act.   THe excercises are throughout the book.  Also, I read a book recently called For Women Only.  It is a quick read and it isn't just about sex.  Talks about ways to love our DH's better and tells about what goes on in their brains.   I highly recommend it.
Lots of phantom cries here too.
Lisa-Ben was waking at 5 and I would just leave him in there and he would eventually fall back to sleep after talking to himself for a while.
Kate-I have been using Auquaphor for a long time and it works wonders on all kinds of skin changes and conditions.
Andrea-LOTS of red faced straining here and sometimes the result is so minimal :roll:
Hannah-Terrible noises when the face is wiped.  I don't have long nails and I am constantly trying to get boogers out.  I sometimes turn to a qtip dipped in aquaphor and have to hold Ben's head down so I don't go too deep.  He gets so mad but we are not going out of the house with huge boogers.  DH could care less.  I would hate to see what Ben looks like on days when I am not home.
Traci-I am thinking about you and your challenges with your dad.  Both of my parents are alcoholics and I struggle with communicating with them constantly.  I went through a phase for a while trying to talk them out of drinking too much and asking them if they new what they were doing?  Now I just cherish the time I have with them and try to dodge times when I know they will be drinking too much.  THe holidays coming up cause tons of anxiety for me because everyone is loaded.I think that you should continue to tell your dad how you feel but keep in mind that it may not make any difference.  I give my parents so much love and tons of attention when they are sober and am hoping that they will come to realize the damage they are doing to themselves.
Richelle-Thinking of you and all of your business.  THe time will soon come when things will settle down.
Cathy-Ben is not crawling here either.  Lots of scoots and some rolling to things.  He likes to get up like a tripod.  Everyone keeps telling me to enjoy the non movement while I can.
Off to give DH some much needed attention.  He came home early and I am on the computer.
Good sleeping for everyone.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 18, 2005, 07:21:29 am
{{Hugs}} Traci.

Jody, we also had Amazed as one of our wedding songs - can't remember where it featured though, I think it played while we were signing the register??

I too went out with a loser before meeting DH, so glad I got out of that toxic relationship.

Here's my story...

DH was flatting with a girlfriend of mine and I used to go over there and visit her and kind of noticed him, but not really (kind of arrogant really  :roll: ), anyway after about 6mths of him admiring me from afar my girlfriend noticed that he fancied me and threw a party (with the aim being for me and DH to actually get together and talk  :lol: ), I still wasn't into the whole idea (he was a few years younger than me).  He thought I was into big rugby guys (football) - couldn't be further from the truth.  Anyhow, we chatted at the party, went on a dinner date the following week, hit it off, I asked him to move in with me 4mths later, then I PROPOSED when we'd been together 9mths and we got married in 2000 after being together 2yrs.  We got married in the same restaurant set on a vineyard as our first date in mid-winter.

Oh yeah, no sex drive here either, and I can't really blame it on having kids and being tired, it had dwindled before then...kind of amazing I've got two children. :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 18, 2005, 14:22:27 pm
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I met my DH (we're not married so what is he really DF ??) 10 years ago
  LOL Bec-no, he's not a Dream Feed he's a Dear Partner, DP!  And I don't have to worry about my DH thinking I'm sexy.  He'd have me 3 times a day if it was up to him.  It's about ME thinking I'm sexy.  So I'll have to work on that.

Kate-thanks for the book suggestion.  I'd heard of that years back and considered it...maybe I'll pick it up for christmas as a hint that I want to help things along.

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I found with my first two that things drastically improved after I stopped bf'ng and basically jumped in for like a week straight.
Judy-I sure hope you're right. I'd like to get SOME drive back.
 
I wasn't kidding when I said on the chat the DH must have sneezed on me to make me preggers.  We were being careful in that we wouldn't have sex during that 11 or so day window after period.  Well, little did I realize my cycle was 35 days long and that meant that my math was a little messed up :roll: So the ONE time we did it (we went away for a weekend) in like 4 weeks it happened!

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MY dh's comment is always the same - that if one partner isn't interested then the other partner needs to work harder at helping them feel interested rather than feeling upset or rather than the one less interested feeling guilty.

Judy-I like your DHs attitude. My DH never ever makes me feel guilty about it.  He knows that it's just the way I am and has come to accept it.  As I said I gave DH an out.  He said he'd do without sex for the rest of his life if that's what he had to do to be with me.  Of course that's a little over the top, but it's good to know that he loves me that much.  I think I owe it to him to figure out if there is something "wrong" with me...whether it be physical, emotional, psychological.  I have often thought of seeing a sexual therapist for a while.  I don't think it could hurt anyway. 

Macaire-thank you for the book suggestions and words of support re: alcoholic parents.  My mother is too as well as one of my brothers so yes, I understand about the holidays *sigh*

Nikki-how does your DH feel about your drive?  If you don't mind me asking.  Is he okay with it?  My DH rarely even approaches me anymore for fear of refusal so I think I really need to take steps to do the initiating...

alright-enough about sex and alcohol!  LOL-trying to lighten the conversation leading into the weekend (and for those already into the weekend!)

We had another pretty good night.  Very much the same but getting gradually later which is good.  Down at 6pm, fed at 9pm (still early given 5:30 feed), woke at 1:40 and settled himself, woke at 4:30 (woo hoo)-fed one boob, woke at 6:10!!!  I am loving this after 6 stuff.  I feel soooo much better :D

I put him down for nap at 8:50 and he struggled a bit-not sure if not tired enough or too tired.  I think the latter as he actually rubbed his eyes before I started to sing to him.  Really hoping to ditch the catnap today.  Yesterday we went walking before nap and he fell asleep 30 minutes earlier than I had expected so I ended up walking for 1 hour and 30 minutes.  Of course, the nap itself was only 45 min because I walked by a house having it's roof done at the 45 min mark :twisted:  I would have brought him in the house but I had him so bundled for the cold weather that I was afraid he'd be a furnace when he woke up.

boy-long post.  going to try and get some stuff done around here before Mr. Smuggies wakes up. Have a good weekend everyone
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 18, 2005, 14:54:14 pm
Fun stuff girls!
Kate, DH and I actually got that book about 4 years ago(it was a valentine's day present to him) and we never even did anything with it!  How pathetic. :oops:   So if that says anthing,you can tell I am not the most sexually driven person.  It's great I think for so many of us to be able to be honest with eachother. 

DH keeps saying that we should try for another though because he had never got it so much than when we were trying! :lol:   Even with lack of drive though before and after dd, I would always manage though to "give it up" at least once a week. MY DH is like yours Traci, he has kinda given up on the sexual advances because he's tired of rejection :? , so yes, it is something I need to work on!
One positive though, we actually had it 2 days in a row this week!!!  And we both wanted it and we're in the mood, etc...not like I kind of just gave in.  So things are looking up :wink:

DH and I met in a kind of boring fashion 10 years ago.  I was 18, he was 19 and I had just broken up with my bf of 3 years.  My parents were in Hawaii so I had a party and invited a hotty ex of mine, another potential cutie, and a friend invited DH.  He is a comedian, let me start by saying...so the doorbell rings, and I answer it and say "you must be Art?".  He says "NO" :?   So I think hummm, well alright then and shut the door in his face (I was tipsy at this point)!  He rings the doorbell again and I answer and see it is still him and am now really confused and he just laughs and introduces himself and the rest is history.  I went away to college 3 hours away and we stayed together...I was so head over heels in love with him I would drive back and forth 3 hours every other day to see him, and vice versa!  Couldn't stand going more than 3 days w/o seeing eachother.  So not the most exciting story, but it did the trick and now I have my dream man :wink:   We have now been married 6 years.

So glad to hear everyone else's stories and glad to see we all got out of the crappy relationships with the exes!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 18, 2005, 14:56:25 pm
Oh, and the other 2 potential mates at the party were definitely ignored once DH showed up!  I thought he was the cutest boy I had ever seen and still do!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 18, 2005, 16:21:11 pm
I am positive that the the only reason that DH is on board for TTC - (which BTW I have AF visiting :cry: )  is sex!  I also find that I even cringe thinking about sex - don't know why and DH and I don't really talk about it which is bad.

Traci - I'm glad you had a good night and are feeling better.  I am still feeling the residual effects of my grandfather's alcholosim VIA my dad so I know it must be really tough going but I say that Sage Ankie gave some great advice.

Macaire - thanks for the info on the books - maybe I shall peruse the bookstores...Thanks for your thoughts about my ' business', when I am at work I am thinking about everything that I need to get done at home and Vice Versa.  Not only did having a baby knock out my sex drive but it made me a neurotic :shock: !

Well - I am at work fretting about all I  need to get done and here I am  posting again - what a loon!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 18, 2005, 16:47:08 pm
First of all, I am letting dd sleep Waaaaay too late right now but I had to read and I have to respond. 
Thank you so much for being so open and candid about the sex drive issue.  Reading all of your situations has helped me sooo much.  traci I too have thought I should maybe "see" someone about my "problem".  Judy I loved what you said about both partners being on the same page with it all.  I actually sent dh email yesterday while he was at work to try to explain where I was coming from on some of this.  We talk about it all the time which is good, but doesn't really seem to solve the problem.  Basically I have kind of encouraged him to "take care of himself"...sorry if tmi.  I explained to him yesterday how important is to me to NOT feel forced/guilty or even just like I am doing it because I feel obligated.  Thankfully he does say he understands and has clearly stated that he does not want me to even do it because I feel like I have to.  But again. Problem doesn't really get "solved".  He still wants it, I still don't.
I love the book ideas.  I mean really maybe that's just it, spice things up a little.  It is strange how in the beginning it's all exciting and new and therefore much easier to find the drive.
I have to tell you.  dh and I waited a long time after starting dating before having sex (long for me considering my history...I have had lots of sex in the past very early to please the men I was dating even though I truly did not want to...which also explains why I do NOT want to do that any more not even for my hubbie) Anyhow.  He took me to this awesome place on the coast, in the winter so the ocean was all stormy and wild.  We had a wonderful dinner which we got all decked out for, had a soak in the hot tub and then of course, even though we hadn't specifically said we were going to, I knew it was "time".  It was the first time we would spend the night together.  Anyhow.  We were making out and he told me to close my eyes, and I was soooo worried, I thought he was going to do something really trashy/goofy like pull out some whip cream (which wouldn't necessarily be bad now...but for a first time?) or some sort of strange toy or something weird...I just didn't know.  Anyhow, I had my eyes closed, lying on the bed, and suddenly I felt this amazing soft fluttery feeling.  I opened my eyes and I was covered, and the bed was covered with red rose petals...hundreds of them!  It was seriously the most romantic thing that I had ever experienced.  I almost started crying.
Fast forward from that to less than two years later, living together, married with child...and yes I think we need to work on spicing things up a little, less utilitarian sex and more romance maybe.
OK, just had to share. Thanks for listening.  I actually have sooo much more to say.  I volunteered at a father daughter dance fund raiser that MIL does for the hospital last night..toooo cute.  But this post is long enough.
Thank you so much for all of your thoughts.  Such a boost for me to hear that I am not alone in this :)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 18, 2005, 16:47:46 pm
hi girls!!

I've gotta go back and read a couple pages of posts to get caught up then I might have some more to comment on.  I just thought I would post a pic of Jackson now that we went to go get his proper casts on yesterday....what a headache!! :shock:  :roll:   Tell me how I'm supposed to bathe him properly and what if he pulls another Ryan??
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0632.jpg)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 18, 2005, 16:49:52 pm
OOhhhh Micky, we posted at the same time.  I just can't believe it.  First of all he is too cute!!  I am just sitting here going Ohhhhhhhh what a sweet brave little guy. 
Bathing...I don't know??? Plastic bags over the casts?  Maybe just "sponge" baths for now.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 18, 2005, 17:08:10 pm
some of you make me laugh when you say you have no drive but you have sex once a week :oops:  :roll:   That would be my DH fantasy!! :oops:  :shock:   Especially with him being gone from home for 5 weeks at a time then home for 1 week (usually)  and with AF visiting on some of those weeks home  it could be months between for us!!  Then if he is home when all the timing is right it might only be once or twice! :shock:  :D   Oh well, at least he is understanding too.  When we were trying to get prego he was hoping that I would be soon....he was too tired from all the trying! :roll:

Yeah Hannah..last night was the first time bathing him with these new casts on (before they only went to his calves).  I had him sitting on a towel with plastic bags on his legs (just in case he peed on them) then bathed him with just a cloth....but he got pretty cold by the end of it.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 18, 2005, 17:39:41 pm
I have to be quick as little man is fussy in the saucer.

Micky-how adorable does Jackson look.  But I can't imagine how hard it will be to cope.  Thank goodness you got in before he was very mobile.  It would have drove him NUTS!  As for bathing...I'd say sponge baths for sure.  Just be sure to get all his little parts really well.  I wouldn't worry all too much about his torso.  Aim to get his face/ears/neck, hands and the "bits" LOL  How long until they come off?

Hannah-
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I have had lots of sex in the past very early to please the men I was dating even though I truly did not want to...which also explains why I do NOT want to do that any more not even for my hubbie)
  My god, are you me?  That sounds so very familiar.  There have been times when DH has insisted and it's all come flooding back and I feel dirty and used :oops:  Isn't that horrible?  Then I end up in tears and DH ends up in tears feeling terrible because he said all I had to do was say no.  This was some years ago now, earlier on.  Phew-it is SO great to talk about this with other women.  I've only talked to one friend about it but she doesn't have the same issues so it's not quite the same.  I knew that a lot of women feel this way (from reading books on the issue), but it just feels good to know that i'm not weird or that something is wrong.  Isn't it funny how you think everything is wonderful for everyone else?  I never would have thought so many of us share the same feelings. 

okay, off to do afternoon nap windown.  Let's hope it's a long one and we can drop the catnap today!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 18, 2005, 18:17:39 pm
Micky, what a sweetie Jackson looks, what a little trooper, hope he's not too uncomfortable?

Traci,

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My DH never ever makes me feel guilty about it. He knows that it's just the way I am and has come to accept it. As I said I gave DH an out. He said he'd do without sex for the rest of his life if that's what he had to do to be with me. Of course that's a little over the top, but it's good to know that he loves me that much. I think I owe it to him to figure out if there is something "wrong" with me...whether it be physical, emotional, psychological. I have often thought of seeing a sexual therapist for a while. I don't think it could hurt anyway.

Yep, kind of the same here, and like Hannah, I don't mind my dh "taking care of himself" if it takes the pressure off me.  :oops:  Of course, if I ever thought it would mean he would stray that would be a totally different kettle of fish and NOT cool. :?  He's not that kind of guy though and that makes me feel worse that he is so understanding and actually doesn't make advances, just kind of hints now and again.  I think some of it now is that I'm also terrified of getting pregnant again - got to get that sorted, we do need to get something here sorted out that's for sure.

Totally relate here too Hannah...in particular just the one loser I was with prior to DH....bleeecchhhhh......makes me cringe.  It wasn't even about lack of self esteem, but keeping myself safe (not that I was a beaten woman or anything, but just kept things ticking along until I was in a position to get out!).
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I have had lots of sex in the past very early to please the men I was dating even though I truly did not want to...which also explains why I do NOT want to do that any more not even for my hubbie)

OK, enough of the sex therapy for now.

For some reason Danielle woke at 2am last night, very loudly and very demanding, holding her, shshing didn't calm her, so I fed her and she scoffed it down.  Not too sure what that was about, it's been almost 2wks since she started sleeping through, so that's a bit of a bummer.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 18, 2005, 18:20:58 pm
BTW, thanks for the tips on the cradle cap.  We pretty much do the same thing wtih the oil and comb and then lots of johnson and johson oil gel on afterwards but still all scaly :(  :?   Poor girl.

BTW, last night was our 4th night of no DF.  Every night she keeps doing the 10 pm wake up, but last night she woke up and didn't have to do PU/PD as usual.  She put herself back to sleep in about 3 mintues!!!  YAY!  We heard her wake a few other times throughout the night but put herself back down.  PHEW! 
I was really starting to doubt myself and think I should go back todoing the DF, but now I know she can do it.
She slept till 6, woke up and fed and then back down till 7:30.
 :?:  :?: so that means that she is officially only getting 4 bf a day.  are you all on the same plan pretty much?  It just seems like so little milk?!?!?  I did offer her an extra feed yesterday though after lunch because the girl REFUSES to drink H2O and she keeps getting constipated, so I figure a little foremilk should help.  Well she ended up taking another full feed! :shock:   Maybe she was stocking up because she had learned that mommy is not going to feed me at night anymore!

Traci, glad little man is sleeping past 6ish.  Really 5:45 is too early!  I don't know how you did it for so long.

Gotta get ready...meeting up with 2 other BW moms at South Coast Plaza-a huge beautiful mall in Orange County.

BTW...Go Micky and Jackson!!!  such troopers.  poor little guy!  he looks so cute though!  does he seem uncomfortable?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 18, 2005, 18:22:03 pm
This subject is really hard to talk about and DH would kill, kill me if he knew I was.  Oh well...

I've got to get the "Quicky" book you suggested Kate.  DH is really good at rubbing and touching but it stops there.  It's usually me that has to initiate anything more and have stopped asking lately from fear of rejection.  I know how guilty he feels about it but it still hurts and I have to get over the feelings without blaming him.

My drive is much lower than it used to be and I think he's a little bit relieved.  I would be thrilled with once a week!  It's  just as hard on this side because it is deemed 'unusual' for both of us.  *sign*

Micky - cute pic of your Jack!
Bec - LOL about DP being DF!!
Traci - was so touched by the words the ladies have given you.  My family was faced with substance abuse as well.  I have nothing to add but hear you girl.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: solnme on November 18, 2005, 18:27:13 pm
Oh yeah, Sol  :D

Been waking up between last feed/bed and DF last 3 nights. Hasn't been taking much for the last feed.   First 2 nights I fed him again because he seemed hungry and tried to skip the DF.  Nope!  Woke up at 3 in the morning screaming.
So last night pu/pd until DF, ate a ton and slept through.  Do you think it's time for a 3rd meal?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: mickymuscles on November 18, 2005, 18:35:24 pm
roz...we are feeding 3 solid meals a day and 4 bottles a day.

jack doesn't even seem to notice that his legs are out of order for a while.  He just gets frustrated that he can't walk around anymore.  He can still roll just fine but I think it is definitely a good thing that he hadn't learned to crawl yet because that surely would have driven him nuts.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 18, 2005, 18:38:58 pm
Micky, how long does Jack have the casts for?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 18, 2005, 18:51:21 pm
There is always so much fun stuff to catch up on!!

Hannah- I did get the tongue peirced right after ex was outta-there... I had the button peirced a long time ago, had a little scar, I thought it was the scar "getting long" when I was preggo, but now I have the funniest stretch mark there!

Micky- Jackson looks like such a trooper in his casts!

Anyone else had their lo wake up at 5 am and TALK until 6am! My dh can sleep through anything so he didn't mind- I had to go downstairs to the couch and put a pillow over my head!! There was NO WAY I was waking at 5!!!!

I know this is short notice Micky- but my friend and I are going to WEM this afternoon ( time = ???) but I will be the ones with the twinsicle stroller fighting to get in and out of stores (probably shoe stores!) Maybe we will see you there??? I have added a pic of the twins you can look for.....

I love all of the stories... isn't fate amazing? So many people in the world and we meet our men and create these beautiful babies!!!

Take care,
Jod
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 18, 2005, 18:52:09 pm
Micky... Jackson is so cute, casts and all! Isn't it amazing that they just make do? Rolling around and everything!

Traci... {{{HUGS}}} didn't mean to make you cry. My virtual shoulders are here for you, anytime.

Okay... sex. None happening here. (BTW, did you guys notice that Naomi, the little sex bunny, has been conspicuously absent on this topic?) Anyway, pretty much the same story as everybody else... it was good in the beginning... then we got married... TTC window was good again... now we have Arwyn. The good thing is, I have a DH whose drive is low anyway. It drove me crazy in the beginning (I was feeling like I jumped him all the time :oops: ) but now, it is a perfect match.  :roll:

I also don't feel very sexy... flappy bit of "peanut shell" hanging over my C-section scar does not make me feel in the least bit sexy. Now this is crazy... I have lost a bit of weight but I feel fatter????? WTF? I know my ob/gyn told me to give myself a year to get back to pre-pregnancy shape (round is a shape, right?) and not to diet while BFing.  :roll: So... I try to get out and walk as much as possible and I do go to yoga once a week but it is obviously not enough for my body to kick off some of this baby weight!

OH... all this interesting talk... I forgot about our night. Well... she woke at 10:30 and I fed her. She gave me until 3:24 am!!! Wow, can't believe I am excited about that! I fed her again and she only slept until 5 am. It took myself and then DH to finally get her back to sleep by 5:40 and she slept until 7 am. Had a 55 min nap... oh why can't we sleep longer???

Now, we are off to go for a walk after her 11 am BF.

Roz... 3 meals and 4 day feeds plus DF (if she wakes) as well as 1 night feed happening here. Before the night wakings started again, she was only getting 2 meals and 5 day feeds.

TTFN my friends!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Erin M on November 18, 2005, 19:14:38 pm
Happy Friday!
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alright-enough about sex and alcohol! LOL-trying to lighten the conversation leading into the weekend
ummm....anyone else remember when sex and alcohol pretty much WAS the weekend  :lol:

Micky - Poor Jackson!...but I have to agree he does look really cute in a very sad sort of way.  Good luck with the bathing and ugh, maybe some extra absorbent diapers or double diapers or something to avoid him "pulling a Ryan".  I just moved Katie up into the next diaper size as we were having way too many of those moments ourselves. 

Jody - lovely pic of the twins!

Judy - your DH (and everyone else's actually) sounds lovely and very understanding (I guess he has to be, he's so outnumbered over there!)

Ankie - Hooray for the good night!  You deserve it!  Fingers crossed that it continues!!

Roz/Andrea - we do 4 BFs and 3 meals here a day.  Andrea - when I'm at work two days a week, Katie pretty much downs an 8-9 oz bottle for every feed I miss with her.  Also, she gets another couple of ounces mixed in with her cereal.  Supposedly milk intake goes down a bit anyway at this age as they start solids.

Hmm....sex drive...not great either, but getting a bit better.  We've been setting goals here, as in x number of times per month.

As for Katie, she's got pretty much every sign of teething in the book (definitely including crankyness).  I thought we were going to get a break, but perhaps not.  We'll see - as we all know, stupid teeth just are so uncooperative.  Going to see a bunch of girls from college tomorrow and do some lunch/shopping - bringing Katie with me, one of the other girls is bringing her 3-month old (no one else has kids yet!).  I'm looking forward to it - hope Katie is in a better mood than she is today.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 18, 2005, 20:48:16 pm
Andrea we are only doing 4 bf a day and no water intake - heck solids are going but very small amounts.  I sometimes do a 5th bf sneaking one in between 4.30and 5pm because they are VERY fussy somedays during that time and it's the only way I can get supper for myself.

As for the gals talking about sex therapists - first of all I think that telling yourself maybe you need to see someone is allowing you to continue to think that something is wrong with you.  Honestly.  And the longer you think something is wrong then something will feel wrong.  Ok - a little bit of history -I was married before.  ok, everyone's picked themselves up?  :)  no children obviously.  Was married very young and then he left for someone else 5yrs later.  We rarely had sex - I mean, once a year maybe?  Had it all the time while dating but growing up in a very religious home lots of guilt and crap about all that and then by the time we were married it was a very 'mental' issue for me which turned into being physically painful.  Ok... so fast forward to meeting dh. Actually I met dh long before I was even married so I've known him forever.  But once I was on my own again and dh and I started to hang out - (I'd say date but truth is I'm still waiting for our first date - LOL)  Anyway without going in to too much detail I honestly thought it would be awkward because I'd found sex so uncomfortable and I remember him just looking at me at saying "there's nothing wrong with you.  Just relax" and things were fine from that point on.  It was just a matter of stopping myself from always thinking something was wrong... and then it was a complete turn around and I was the one always chasing him around.  In fact, funny story, he knew I was pregnant with Zoe before I did.  He even told his brother before he told ME. Said he knew something was up because I'd stopped harrassing him for sex.  And this was before I'd even missed a period AND we weren't officially trying either - just no longer preventing.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 18, 2005, 21:04:10 pm
Thanks Judy!  I think you're right about "thinking" something is wrong is actually helping create an issue. 

Right, better get off here and spend some time with Nathan before D wakes up - he is seriously lacking in attention at the moment and having major major meltdowns... :cry:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 18, 2005, 21:28:35 pm
Judy-Thanks so much for posting.  It does make sense.  Kind of like the power of positive thinking. 

as for my little guy-he had another 45 minute nap ending at 1:45.  I thought he'd be able to go the distance until 6 but was just fussing like crazy so I put him down for a catnap just now.  I'll give him 30 minutes (until 4:55) then put him down a touch later than normal at 6:15.  here's hoping tonights sleep is okay as a result.

ttfn.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 18, 2005, 22:33:58 pm
You know Judy I think you really said it.  It's funny how so many things in life can be issues of confidence.  if you are confident that what you are feeling/doing saying is ok valid etc. then it is.   And BTW I did almost fall off my chair when i read that you were marriedbefore dh...hope that's ok to say.  I really appreciated your post.
Like I said it helps so much for me to be ok with how I feel about the whole sex thing to know that I am not alone, and that once a week is actually pretty darn good.

Erin...LOL about the weekends that used to be sex and alcohol....and I MISS those days?? Not really.  Thanks for the reminder.

I am having one of those days.  It's 2:30 and I'm still in pj's...so is Sophie.  And no we did not have a tough night last night so there is really no excuse...the fly lady would not approve.  Although the bed IS made :)

Sophie has been waking sooo early between 5 and 6...and talking to herself in her crib (unfortunately no twin to keep her company :)) Yes Jody someone else does this! 

It seems like she's been wanting to take her first nap earlier and earlier, (So I don't know, maybe she's been up for awhile?) which of course brings the whole day earlier, which of course means earlier bed time because the cat nap is gone again and she just literally falls asleep...at around 5:45-6pm ish.  Vicious cycle, obviously it all starts over again the next day(like Ankie's camp song)...sooooo today I tried to press the "reset" button
 :) 
but I think I pulled the trigger a little late so who knows what will happen.  I fed her at about 5:45 then put back to bed, but not until 7...after bottle and snuggles with daddy before work.  I told myself I was only going to let her sleep until 8, then 8:30, then she finally woke at 9am.  SO now....she went back down at 10:30 up at 12:00, back down again at 2:30...hoping this will push her later tonight therefore slightly later tomorrow???
Who knows, somtimes it just doesn't seem to make that much of a difference and every day is just it's own day...routine, but not really scheduled...KWIM?
What do you guys do if your lo wakes early and you feed them and put them back down? Get them up at 7?   Do you count that as day sleep or night sleep?  Just curious.
Once again soooo jealous of the moms going to the mall today...especially if they are good malls :)  I am such a shopaholic, it's just not even funny.
Ankie-yay for the better night.  It sounds like you are really active. The baby weight will come off.   BTW nice visual on the peanut flap!
 :shock:  :lol:
Jody the twins are tooo cute.  I love the outfits. 
Thanks again to everyone for "entertaining" the sex topic on a thread that is supposed to be for the los.  Amazing how much we all are sharing, experience-wise from all corners of the globe.
Dh playing hockey tonight. He leaves around 8ish...that's 10est I think..I'll probably be lurking around the site if anyone else is around and wants to chat let me know...
I'll probably still be in my pj's at this rate too :)
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: becca24 on November 18, 2005, 23:15:18 pm
Morning Everyone,

There is a thread somewhere called 'ask the speech pathologist' or something similar - I think we need an 'ask the sex therapist' thread. Perhaps there is a sex therapist registered on here somewhere??????

We are doing 4bf's and 3meals. Sometimes an extra bf overnight.

Last night was a bit of a shocker. Tried to feed her at 6.30, she took a small feed but mainly just mucked around. In bed 7pm. 7.45pm  head next door REVS his motorbike up SO LOUD it was unbelievable. Baby awake :evil: 8.15 Fed her again because I was worried about small feed earlier. Back to bed and doing the mmmmmmmmmmmmm noise for about 15mins. 11.30 awake again. I try to settle her with no luck she is screaming the house down. I think it's her teeth but when I pick her up she stops straight away :roll: Put her back down screaming again. Then DWhatever comes in and says I should feed her. I said I am trying to settle her back to sleep and he says 'that is not helping'  :twisted:  :twisted:  Well you don't even want to know what I said back to him, I will just say it started with "I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S NOT HELPING......  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: . :wink: I give in and feed her about 12.00. Back to bed mmmmmmmm noise for 10mins then back to screaming. I go back in turn on lamp and give her lovey. Now she is smiling and laughing  :?  :? PU/PD does not work on smiling babies so I end up sitting up for about 45mins while she is yelling IIIYAAAYAAA YAA YAA III YAAA loud enough to wake motorbike boy I hope :roll:  when she starts yawning I put her back to bed. mmmmmmmmm noise for 20mins then finally ASLEEP. :roll:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 18, 2005, 23:33:23 pm
Bec - ROTFLMAO, at your whole post, especially 'DWhatever'  I think you are onto something; "DW".  I don;t mean to laugh of course but you are toooo funny in telling of your woes! 

Will post in a bit, must help DU (any guess'?)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 18, 2005, 23:53:30 pm
Micky thanks for posting the pic of Jackson - what a cutie!!!  Poor little guy :(  I agree with Traci - great to get this done before he was really mobile -that would have made it REALLY tough - and I'm sure it's tough as can be already. :(  You're a strong woman!!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 18, 2005, 23:57:27 pm
OMG Bec - you are funny and nice I was all about DUseless!

Micky sooo cute but poor Jack!  No kidding, Judy is right you are SO strong.

May come back for a chat Hannah - are you still up for it?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 18, 2005, 23:59:41 pm
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Blokes don't expect us to look like supermodels - in fact they find a women who has confidence in herself much more sexy than one who complains about themselves all the time KWIM? I hope that comes across the way I mean it too :?

You're exactly right!!!!!!!  My dh always says "confidence is everything" - in any arena.  Ok he doesn't *always* say it, but he does say it.  He *always* says "huh? what?" after he's startled awake on the couch at 9.15pm LOL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 19, 2005, 00:03:14 am
see Bec, this is the kind of stuff I was talking about at the chat.  You just crack me up.  Seriously!  You make me smile or laugh every time a read your posts.  You know...I finally figured out that mmmmmmmmmm sound.  Cole does it too, but not for as long.  He only does it a few minutes when he's settling down.  DWhatever :P  :P  :P

DU?  Dear Uncle??

Cole took a catnap from 4:25-5:00 when I woke him from a crazy deep slumber.  He was not impressed with me.  Downstairs we go and I give him dinner.  He ate quite a bit and started grizzling so I made him more and he kept on grizzling.  okay okay already...gave him one boob and it's only 5:15.  was hoping to hold out so his next feed would be later than the last few nights.  Change his diaper, not so bad recently as he really likes the tube thingy of penaten to play with so he's occupied. PHEW.  Then feed him the other boob.  I couldn't believe how well he fed on both sides. Yay! It's now 5:40 and he's rubbing his eyes like mad.  I put his Grobag on and he's in bed and out like a light at 5:45!!  Man, I was hoping to stretch him a bit with the late nap but it just wasn't happening.  Hopefully he'll still be up after 6 tomorrow because we're going to a baby shower and I want him well rested.  Not to mention we might stay later than normal and either put him down there or let him stay up a bit late.  We'll see how it goes.

Judy-I can't believe I didn't post earlier about your previous marriage :shock:   How old were you, if you don't mind me asking...I know you said young...but man, it must have been really young!  Good thing I was standing with Cole when I read it...no chair to fall out of!

Hannah-not sure if DH would be impressed with another chat this week.  I'll see if I can get on later.  I'll PM you if I'm around...
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 19, 2005, 00:05:37 am
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Ok he doesn't *always* say it, but he does say it.  He *always* says "huh? what?" after he's startled awake on the couch at 9.15pm LOL
  ROFLMAO  8)  :P  :D
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Judy on November 19, 2005, 00:32:42 am
You girls are funny! :)

Married the first time at, oh gosh, let me think *doing the math*, 21 (almost 22) so maybe not all that young but young compared to now!! :)  He left when I was 27 - am now 37.  I tell ya - sometimes the worst things in life can turn out to be the best.   Such a conveluded story.  He, *the girl*, dh, and I all worked at the same company.  Actually they all worked there for years.  I worked there in the late 80's then left when we got married, came back just a few months before he left so that's how I was in touch with dh again.  So ex now, still working for same company, has relocated to Texas and working in Mexico and remarried (his third time).  He has one dd a little older than Zoe if I remember correctly.  DH is the one who updates me - he used to have to go to Mexico every other month for a while so he and my ex would 'catch up' ????  I remember just before he moved away I came home from work (he and dh worked at the same location for a number of years after we split and dh and I were living together).  Anyway, when ex left he took very little of our 'things' my theory being if you wanted the stuff you'd have stayed here... so anyway, he did have one of the nightstands to our bedroom suite but that was it.  SO this one day I come home from work and get changed and there's TWO nightstands, matching, in the bedroom.  I come out look at DH and say "do I WANT to know the story behind that?" :)  I guess since he was moving so far away he didn't have any use for it anymore.  Haven't heard anything of him for a couple years now.  Last I saw him was at his father's funeral.  Honestly if I saw him tomorrow I'd be happy to have coffee with him and chat about life in general... my goal in life was never to hate him - but to be indifferent.  Too much energy invested in hating someone and I was done investing energy in him.  And truly, I love where my life is now and I firmly believe that everything we've been through brings us to where we are today - so really I must appreciate what has gone on.  Honestly I was good coworking friends with current dh back when but he and I were in very different places in life and there would have been no way that we would have ended up together if we'd gone out then.  He was a partier at the time - a real 'use 'em and lose 'em" kinda guy.  I would NEVER have tolerated that.  He was just out of a long relationship back then, just as I was getting married.  Then years later when we started hanging out his buddies said to me "oh YOU'RE the girl from work he used to talk about all the time!!" :) 

He's a great guy and a wonderful dad.  I should really appreciate him more than I do!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 19, 2005, 01:11:26 am
Thanks for sharing your story Judy.  I find it amazing how my life has panned out, I'm just loving my 30's.  I'm just so much more comfortable in my role in life and where I fit.  And now that I'm done having children, it's like another new phase is about to begin (or moving to a new level really).  :)
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 19, 2005, 02:15:14 am
holy crap girls I go out for the night with dh, our anniversary is tomorrw, so we went out tonight, anyhew, I go out on page 102 and come home to 105.
k....on the sex topic, I used to be in the same boat as you guys, infact the thought repulsed me even, but since I have my new semi permenant friend put in, the hormones seems to agree with me.
lol...ankie thanks for noticing I wasn't saying anything about the lack of sex drive topic, I didn't answer as I now thankfully don't have a problem with it. ALthough when we were I have had numerous arguments about my dh's addiction to porn...nuff said on that.
For our evening out, we went to an art exhibit on art of the ancient meditteranian world, mainly egypt, with a little rome and grecce thrown in too. We then went to a sy italian restaurant, oooo so worth the wait for us to go, and then we went to see the new harry potter movie, the best one yet as far as I am concerned.
I would answer more posts, but I don't have the energy at the moment to answer four pages of them.
K....nighty night my dahlings.
TCFNMFL
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 19, 2005, 02:47:23 am
wow Judy-that's quite the story!  and a bit bizarre how DH and Ex were somewhat friends/in touch with each other!!

Hannah.............my DH won't be home until 11!  God I hate his job.  Anyhoo, I'm here to chat if you wish.  Let me know.  I'll likely go to bed around 10:30, we've got a big day tomorrow.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 02:59:52 am
Hey ladies...I'm still waiting for dh to go and dd to go to sleep, but I could chat while I'm waiting and after if anyone's up for it...I'll go to the chat room now and see if anyone shows up:)
Hannah
It's10pm est
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 04:07:34 am
Nikki-loving my thirties too...amazing how much of a difference a few years can make. 
Naomi..would actually be really curious to hear more about the porn thing..if you are willing to share..you can pm me if you'd want to talk more.  I won't be offended if you choose not to.

Here is a pic from the father daughter dance last night. It was sooooo cute, all these little itty bitty girls dressed to the nines with puffy dresses and black patent leather mary janes. Dancing with their daddies...Dads holding little ones, others with lo's danicing on their feet...tooo cute.
The girls in this pic are a little older..they are former students of mine. Such sweeties.
Night ladies. Have great weekends.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 19, 2005, 04:49:32 am
Hannah, Traci and Bec-you guys STINK! :lol:   I joined in the chat jsut as all of you said goodbye and goodnight :(   Sorry I missed it as it would have been fun to get some belly laughs...but I have to say my time with DH was well spent.  We shared a bottle of wine and discussed our dreams and hopes of making "taylor made" teh next big thing! 

see you guys tomorrow!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 19, 2005, 04:53:03 am
Bec... you crack me up!!! I love reading your posts. I wanted to say... your lo is doing what Arwyn has been doing for the past 2 or 3 days. Remember I posted about Arwyn settling down when we were in the room but screaming when we left? Now, it has progressed to crying when we put her down, even if she is "sleeping" in our arms. I held her for the first half of her catnap tonight (yes, ladies... I hear your gasp from all across the world over the internet connection  :roll: ) and DH held her for the last half. Seriously, every time I tried to put her down, she would start screaming. I knew she was asleep too! Anyway... I think it is a serious case of separation anxiety. She is a very independent baby and for the last few days, is super clingy.

Traci... Ha, ha, ha... Arwyn is now amused with the Penaten tin that we have! That is the only thing that will keep her lying down for a short time.   :roll:

Hannah... Was the father daughter dance a fundraiser or ?? Sorry if you mentioned it before... I must have missed it. Am going to the chat room now!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 05:55:54 am
Ankie, you mean you didn't read every word of my incredibly long posts???!!
Yup, fundraiser. For the hospital.  MIL is on the board.  Funny after all of our talk about health insurance/medical costs that a hospital would need to do a fundraiser right?

Sorry we missed you and Andrea in the chat!!! "See" you Sunday?
I am dying to check out Taylor made, when when when??

All of you girls crack me up!!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 19, 2005, 06:04:20 am
hannah what are you doing on so late?
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 19, 2005, 06:06:14 am
BTW, remember Hannah how I said it would be great to get a BW convention going????  I think I should look into it!  one for this side of the world anyhow, and then we could meet with our Canadian friends eh?!?!
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 06:08:55 am
Sounds like fun you guys! Can we come over :) I was just about to go finish the dishes, speaking of Fun!...dh is playing hockey tonight.  They have a really late ice time.  Actually, that's he only reason I chatted.
Just sending pics to my mom and sis of Sophie "brushing her teeth" :)
Did you ahve fun with the other BW moms?  Will you post pics in the photo gallery again?

Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 06:14:00 am
That would be really fun Andrea.  Count me in on that one for sure.  OK, really now, gotta go get those dishes done...I can hear their phantom cries! :)
Gotta get up eaarrrrrllllyyy and run...before little tiny girlfriend wakes.  Bec told me tonight she has a friend with a daughter named Sophie Mae (same as our Sophie) and they call her Sophie Mayhem...love it!!!
BTW don't you lve the expression "screaming the house down"?  Not when you're experiencing it of course.
Have a drink for me!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: kq on November 19, 2005, 07:02:48 am
Last left at page 99 and have finally caught up.
BEC, ROTLMAO :D  :D  :D You crack me up! I know what you mean about MMMMMM. What is that???!! Now it is the same IIIIYAA YAA.
So good to see that I am not alone on the whole sex drive thing. Never had much of a drive. Lucky I married an older man (he is only 9 years older) so we are pretty much on the same page as far as that is concerned.
Judy, I had to pick myself up off the floor reading about your previous marriage. You are right, our past experiences help shape who we are.
I met dh in a very boring fashion but knew on the first date that I was going to spend the rest of my life with him.
Andrea, looking forward to "Taylor made".
Ankie, glad to hear your nights are getting better.
Micky, in NZ, we can get elasticised "stockings" for casts. They are totally waterproof. What a trooper Jackson is!
No catnap here for weeks now and overtired baby every evening. Tried to put Sam to bed at 5.30pm this evening and it took him an hour to settle. We had to keep popping in but he would smile and giggle. What do you do with a smiling baby who is supposed to be asleep so I would pop out again and wait for him to cry so I could PU/PD.
Must go spend some quality time with dh.
TCFN
Karen
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: hayes on November 19, 2005, 07:54:15 am
Richelle-I don't know what happened to me when I had a baby but I have become incredibly neurotic.  Used to be an unorganized teacher and now I am a crazy scheduled mom.  My friends wonder what happened.
Long time ago but... I used to be a first grade teacher and now I tutor about 7 kids a week and mentor new teachers once a week.
Micky-Jackson is so adorable.  Please give him lots of kisses and hugs from all of us and you too of course.  You are doing an amazing job with everything.
Andrea-3 solid meals a day and 4 bf
I am so bummed that I missed all of the sex talking today.  A few months ago I lined a pathway with candles into our little love nest room and introduced a new little/big bedroom outfit :oops: DH was THRILLED.  He hasn't seen much of that lately.  I find to get myself feeling better about the post pregnancy bod is to take a trip to a fun store and buy a little something to wear that I feel comfortable with and is a bit risky. Sorry again for TMI
Here is our meeting up story.
Went to an engagement party for a high school friend and my DH was there because he was in a toddler play group with her as a child.  Not looking for anything, had been broken up with ex for 8 months and still mourning away.  I had the desire to date lousers.(druggies, jailers and secret relationships)Oh my!  So a very tall man walks through the patio doors and I say to my best friend who is 6'1" wow he is good looking and meets your height expectations.  She wasn't impressed with his jeans and navy blazer look and either was I!  Minutes later my friend introduced us and I met his mom and dad and he met my parents.  We chatted for a while and he called a week later.  Went on my first date EVER ( I always met my boyfriends at parties) and we had a blast, lost the car and ended up hitting a few bars in order to make the night last extra long.  I tried to kiss him on the first date but got too nervous and he went to his car laughing.  We dated for 2 years with lots of partying and sex.  THe he broke up with me and I was devasted.  Called him back and he had to come over again and break up with me a second time.  8 months later I wrote him a last try birthday card and didn't get a call.  2 weeks later he called and explained how him and his brother/roommate never go through the mail.  He asked if I wanted to go to coffee and we sat for 4 hours over 1 cup of coffee and lots of cigarettes.  2 dates later we were back together.  6 months later he proposed in a mountain prairie filled with wild irises and surounded by snow capped mountains.  I have to say that he tops the meter for romance all the time and amazes me with his patience with all of my moods. 
So fun to tell it again.  Hope all of you have a wonderful and relaxing weekend with your families.
macaire
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: FrasersMum on November 19, 2005, 10:33:50 am
Bec you are a fool!!  You crack me up!  Next time I am in Newcastle visiting my family there I will let you know - I would love to meet up.

Gosh, so many pages and so many questions since I last posted.  Will try to remember

Christmas present: A friend suggested a home made book with photos and names of loved ones.  I like that idea.  Otherwise I think I'm going to wrap up a box for him.  He's going to get plenty of presents!!

Meeting DH: He was my boss!  Was working in a bookstore while at uni - I was in a long term relationship (yes, with a loser - controlling and emotionally abusive - I was 17/18).  DH was also in a long term relationship of 6 years.  We met, flirted, ditched our partners and the rest is history.  We started dating a little over 10 years ago, moved in together after about 6 months and have been married for 6 years.

To all of you "happily over 30's" - you are making me look forward to my 30th next May!!

Sex drive: has been low for years.  Was like a rabbit when I first met DH but hey, I was 19!  His drive is also low.  I think I win on frequency though - we have only had sex once since DS arrived.  Hey, that's bad!  All this talk makes me think I need to discuss with DH.  Thanks for the prompter guys.

Job: I work in Industrial Relations for an employer association, providing employement law advice to employers.  I used to really enjoy it - it's hard and challenging work.  Particularly now being sleep deprived and with mummy brain though - for now I am just trying to keep my head above water.  But I'm sure I will get back to enjoying it more.  Perhaps when I can get some sleep.

Traci: big hugs re the Dad thing.  My Dad is also an alcoholic and my brother is an alcoholic and drug addict.  I live away from my father and although I'm not there to see it I know he is not looking after himself and in fact I know he hopes that his life does not last much longer.  The saddest thing about it though is I have an 8 year old sister, his youngest child, who I believe he is completely disrepecting by acting the way he does.  However, it is his illness, his addiction, and although I have tried to talk to him about it, my mother and step mother before me, none of us have succeeded and none of us will.  I have given up on him a long time ago.  But big hugs to you.  I know how hard it is.

Much love to all - hope your weekend is going swimmingly!  We took Fraser to the beach today, he really loved it.  Here's hoping he's tired enough to actually give me a good night's sleep (OK, wishful thinking!!)  Here's hoping he's tired enough to only wake twice!!

Bye for now!
Jo
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Jayri on November 19, 2005, 13:47:18 pm
hi ladies, just wanted to pop on and give a quick reply to hannah's q about dh and porn.
He does have a problem with it, In his eyes it was easier to watch it than to come in and bug me when I was massively pg. Fair enough.
But it became a problem when I noticed money dissapearing when it should have gone to bills, I get our cable bill in one month and there were $130 or porn pay per view charges on it, no kidding, I thought rent was paid, and then a month later if ind that the cheque bounced, he had gone and bought $65 of magazines, I have found videos hidden in our linen closet.
This went on for about 2 years I'd say, I let it slide, gave a lecture when it happened, but then when we went to a freind place with the kids for a weekend, he barely came near me. Well at the end of the stay I lost it, when we got home, ALL his clothes were thrown in garbage bags and I threw them out the window.
He was totally miffed at what was going on, I reminded him of all the things that had been going on, plus I told him that him preferring to "watch a skinny chick get it" as my words can be politely put, the how does he think it makes my fat butt feel. NO wonder I had a body image prob if he preferred to watch that!!!
Welll needless to say, he pulled his head out of his butt, we struck a comprimise, he realises what his actions did, and today nov. 19th is our 3yr wedding anniversary, but what is equally important to me is that in february we have been together 5 yrs.
Which brings me to how we met. It was in a bar, I went that night as a guy had said he would buy me all the drinks I wanted, well back in the day that wasn't a hard choice to make. I was sitting there and no joke I looked across the room and saw him, he smiled and something inside told me my life would never be the same, we were friends at first, not for long tho, aftera  couple of weeks, I was once again drunk as a skunk, and looked at my roomie and said " I think I have a crush on andy, but it is andy, I can't have a crush on him!!", so when he turned up that night she told him, and he felt the same and that was it, three days later, in a bar, drinking heavily again, we sat proposing to each other.
So there you have it ladies, the porn and how we met,
just wondering, what are we going to do when the kids are older and we don't need to use this thread, I'd hate to loose contact with you all, maybe we could all email each other or something, pm me your email adress if you like, I am so nervous that I won't have the time to spare to be on here when I start my new job.
Also Andrea, the get together thing sounds like an awesome idea, maybe we could post something in the lounge and see if anyone else wants to meet up, or would you all prefer if it was just us lot.
Well I have had more than my fair share of a post, talk to all you fine ladies later, enjoy your weekends where ever you are.
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Colesmom on November 19, 2005, 14:32:05 pm
Naomi-I will share my thoughts on porn later.

Just wanted to say Happy Anniversary.  You share your 3rd one with my parents 45th!  Gosh-don't I feel terrible.  It's likely my parents last "landmark" anniversary together and I didn't realize it was a biggie til my dad told me last night :oops:
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 15:27:10 pm
You girls are great...even willing to talk about porn!!! Thanks for sharing that Naomi.  Dh would be moritified probably if he knew I was sharing this...but he definately enjoys a little fix now and then...I guess I was just wondering what's "normal" in this arena? 
That's funny Naomi about what we will do when the kids get older...the other day I was thinking...what am I going to do when SOphie is a teenager?  Is there a Teen WHisperer site??  Hee hee.  It's fun to think about keeping in touch.
BTW I have a great CD called For the Kids.  Very cute.  We are listening to The Rainbow Connection (original sung by Kermit the Frog?) sung by Sara McLachlan....Now a song called "I've Got to be Clean" by Guster...great lyrics. ...each day's a fight with the forces of dirt...
Hey this should be my theme song :)
See you later!!!
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 19, 2005, 15:29:32 pm
Happy Anniversary Naomi!!!  We are the 27th..1 year :)
Gorgeous picture of Halle Bec. she is too cute all bundled up.
Hannah
Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
Post by: Richelle on November 19, 2005, 16:42:21 pm
Happy Anniversary Naomi!

Bec - Halle is adorable!!  I was having a bit of a moment last night with DUseless, not very nice but I hate that I have to do everything sometimes KWIM?  Does everyone thingk that these men do things badly on purpose so as to not have to do anything?  LOL telling DH to go feck*poo**!@!@*wee*other bum!@!@**mess*bitsman bits!@!@breastsbabywhisperer!@!@babywhisperer.comMake payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!removed
    babywhispererforums.com/a--holepenis himself and I do believe that it does count!!

    Judy - I did fall out of my chair reading your post about 1st marriage - thanks for sharing your story!

    Don't have much to say about our newest subject PORN!  What a thread!!  Anywho, porn is illegal on this here god fearing island so not much to say about it.  I suppose there is internet porn and I know DH enjoys, I mean what guy doesn't?  I was actually thinking of buying some in Canada to help spices things up  :oops: !

    Jo - I am 30 in February and am looking forward to it - I think, well that is what I am telling myself anyway! 

    On my way into work - only ONE MORE WEEK!  That is my new mantra!

    Talk to you later from work I am sure!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: mickymuscles on November 19, 2005, 17:01:28 pm
    hi girls!

    I'm totally up for the group meeting! How fun would that be...especially since at nap time nobody would be offended by anyone having to leave.  :lol:  :roll: And...if someone needed backup for PU/PD you'd have an army waiting to help! :D

    Karen thanks for the tip on the cast "socks". I've looked on the internet and am going to measure Jack's casts once he is up from his nap! :D

    Hannah-Jack will be in his casts until Dec. 19th.  I'm already counting down!  I'm glad they will be off for x-mas as we are flying to California so he can meet his great grandparents and re-meet his aunties.  They are wanting to take him swimming so it works out perfectly as we are leaving on Dec. 21st.

    On the porn issue....I had another loser ex (way too many loser ex's!) that was also addicted to porn and addicted to "treating himself"!! :shock:   He had to have a 'fix' of both at least once a day!

    I'm looking forward to our chat tomorrow.....I can only imagine what is going to be talked about!! :lol:  :D  :shock:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: mickymuscles on November 19, 2005, 17:03:41 pm
    hey richelle....I have been meaning to ask if you knew my cousin.  He lived in the caymans with his wife for I think 3 years.  He moved back to Canada about a year and a half ago.  They both worked as bartender/waitress.  Their names are Bruce and Sandy Rackette.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 19, 2005, 23:56:50 pm
    Hello, hello ladies...

    Just wanted to say... I would be right in there with a BW convention!! It would be great to meet all of you. I feel like I know so much about everybody already... you guys know stuff I have never shared with any of my friends!!!

    Naomi... Happy Anniversary!

    Bec... CUTE!!! I love the beanie hat!

    Hannah... who produces the For the Kids CD?

    Porn... haven't seen it, don't want to know about it, hope not to hear about it from DH...

    Unheard of 2 hour nap today!!! We completely screwed up her schedule today... had appointments and such. What ended up happening... she got her morning nap in her sling... no surprise to her, we do this occasionally. Then we kept her up 3 hours 15 min. before putting her down for nap #2. DH put her back down at 1hr 15 min. and she gave us until 2hr 5min. Un-friggin-believable!

    Don't ask about last night though.  :roll:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: solnme on November 20, 2005, 00:30:23 am
    Hi Ladies,  just got in from school (on a Saturday!  :evil: ) Had enough time to kiss Sol before he had his nap and was on the computer before DH got out of the bedroom.  I think I have a problem. 8)

    Naomi - Happy Anniversary

    Nutty Bec - Haillie's eyes are so beautiful!

    Hmm porn... had to get over that one quick since every guy i've ever dated has had a relationship with it, including DH.  He did get rid of his "collection" when I was prego.  Which is too bad cause there were a couple of tapes I rather liked.

    Sol took a 2 1/2 hour nap this morning!  Of course when I'm not around to enjoy it.  Why should DU catch all the breaks!

    Ankie - congrats on Arwyn's long nap. I hope it turns into a faze.  Did you get the PM I sent you?

    Okay, I guess it should be quality time.
    ta ta
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 20, 2005, 00:40:28 am
    not to be a party pooper or nuthin, but I reckon we should save the discussion on porn for the chat. I think it is way too personal of an issue to discuss in this way. I don't mean to be a pooper, but to me it is a touchy subject, I know it is to a lot of people.
    Lets try to keep this about our babes, and we can get down and dirty with it on sunday, which BTW is the social highlight of my weekend, apart from dh and the kids...lol
    So, miss riley has begun to need a longer wind down, no biggie, but this means that she is really y if I try to put her down on her own when I notice that she is ding her "mummu I'm tired" things.
    I just figured out that she needs a grow bag sorta thingy, you know those fleecy sleeping bag things that do up at their shoulders, I have no clue what they are called, anyhew, we had something that would do the same thing, one of those things they put over a fleece all in one. Man am I crap at descriptions or what!!
    That made a difference tonight, but just incase that doesn't work out, is anyone able to maybe do a kinda quick point form of pu/pd. I ask as when I go back to work I will not be the sole care provider for Riley, so I guess if I can get it in a point form then it would be easier for dh and the sitter to read when I am not here.
    k... I think I have reached my quota for the length of my post...lol
    TCFNMFL
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: M&M'sMom on November 20, 2005, 02:15:04 am
    I enjoy the convention idea... Im in!

    I have been having these weird nights with the girls for the past few nights... about an hour after they are put down they wake up (one or the other, last night BOTH at the same time! :shock: ) absolutely screaming! Like blood curdling screams? WTF? Never has this happened before. I will go in, give them their homeopatic teething drops (or if it has been well over 4 hours they may get tylenol) hold them for 2 min (ish)- no rocking talking or walking . They conk right out, and are not up until 630/700am. They are both cutting teeth right now (mais is getting 3, Mak is getting 1). Do you think this may be causing the wake-ups?

    okay another question... do any of you ladies send out christmas cards or pics of your lo's. Especially this year being all of their first chistmas's??
    I am done writing out 22 cards with family and just the girls pics in them... I have 20 left! It friggin took me all day to write them out! Do you really appreciate Christmas cards when you get them? I always wonder if people just chuck the pics in the garbage after a month.. that would break my heart  :cry:

    Well I am going to have a night out with my best friend (whos in town from oregon) .. I think I had better put on my make-up and perhaps get out of my baby-spit-on t-shirt .. that stuff might show up under a black light at the bar  :lol:

    by the way bec- what you said about telling your dh to go f*** himself almost made me pee my pants ( I said almost )..

    Ankie- hope your night is better tonight, sounds like you had a rough one? maybe the long nap is just what she needed and she will sleep like an angel tonight?

    have a great night ladies
    jods
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 20, 2005, 02:35:42 am
    Jody I for one LOVE to get Christmas cards with pics in it.  My fridge is covered with children and family pics from all our friends and family.  And for those friends that don't send them I always request them.  In fact we have so many that I had to start limiting myself to only current shots (rather than keeping every picture ever sent on the fridge!)

    So yes - I say send.  I send pics with our Christmas cards!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 20, 2005, 02:38:53 am
    OMG Micky, literaly holy  on a stick!!  I totally know Bruce and Sandy, well Sandy more.  She worked at the golf course and my DH is a golf nut and I also enjoy.  We almost bought their car when they left!!!!  Funniest thing is that DH and I were talking about her the other day (WEIRD!!) b/c the golf course still has not re-opened since Hurricane Ivan, blah de blah and I said it was weird that I hadn't thought of all the people who used to work there and how transient the island/friends are here...

    You will have to tell her when you see her that WOODY and RICHELLE say HI and of course that we now have Sophie - the last time I saw her i probably had a ciggy hanging out of my mouth and a beer in one hand, a tequila in the other and I belive there was some joking around about a threesome or my DH watching her and i kiss? :shock: :oops:  !

    Anywho - what a small world!!

    Ankie - hope this great night turns into a good night!

    Jody - I have no idea but you are probably right that it is their teeth.  Sophie has done this a few times but it has always been one of her appendages stuck in the crib bars! :shock:   

    I hope everyone is having a fab weekend
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 20, 2005, 02:41:43 am
    Ankie - Sorry I meant great NAP turns into a good night!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 20, 2005, 03:17:42 am
    Naomi, you are not a party pooper at all.  I can understand that it is a sensitive issue for many people.  I am so glad you said something.  I hope that I didn't offend or turn anyone off by discussing it.  Thanks for speaking up.
    Sophie started commando crawling today...for daddy :)
    Jody that was a funny comment about changing from the baby spit up shirt...do I have any non-spit up shirts any more?  I don't think so...I keep buying new ones (white and black...so basic) thinking OK, I will only wear these when I am sure I won't get spit up on, which of course ends up being never...so they are all spit up t's now.  I keep thinking when I go back to work I'll have to wear my bathrobe over my clothes up until I walk out the door :)
    Ankie, it must have been so nice to have a two hour block of time to do anything..sleep or whatever!  Just two hours to yourself.  I second Richelle and hope the good nap turns into a good night.
    Richelle and Micky, small world eh?
    Time to go watch a movie.
    We just got the BEST bibs in the mail today. I ordered them from baby center...they are called super bibs by bumkins.  Also got a gift for Sophie (probably her only one from us) we got her a Haba pull toy that changes from a boat to a car and has little mice that ride in it.
    We were out shopping a bit tonight downtown and saw the funniest onsies/rompers by Wry Baby that said things like "I am not an elf" or "I will egg a house" , I will get wasted at my prom"  Pretty funny...my favorite was "I might throw up" That would be perfect for Sophie.
    OK Ladies, ttfn hope you all had great saturdays and see you in the chat tomorrow hopefully.  I might be late...I'm not sure how things are going to go.  We finally got LTGF back on a 7pm bedtime yay!  But that's right in the middle of the chat so we'll see. 
    If I don't "see" you have a great chat...
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Erin M on November 20, 2005, 03:54:28 am
    Jody - We are sending out Christmas cards with pictures, though we're not even getting Katie's picture taken for another 2 weeks.  Like Judy, I LOVE getting pictures in cards, but I'm also with you in wondering whether or not everyone appreciates all the work in sending out cards.  We send out something like 80, but I know I"ll be lucky if we get 30 back.  (Probably at least 30 are to DH's enormous family and we get very few back from them.)  Oh, and I wouldn't be surprised if your odd wake ups had everything to do with teeth - I find we have all sorts of odd things happening when teeth come in.

    Bec - lovely picture of Halle!

    Richelle/Micky - totally small world!

    Katie and I spent the day with a bunch of girls I went to college with.  We had a lovely time - DH is out with his friends as we speak - hoping he makes it home in a semi-sober state at a decent hour as we have much to do tomorrow and I hate when he turns into DUseless (love that!) for the entire morning.  Though when Katie was up for almost 2 hours (!) last night (think it's the T-word striking again!) he certainly did pitch in when I was at my wit's end and got her back to sleep.  Ever have one of those nights when you just CAN'T handle the screaming baby?  That was me last night.  Hope tonight is better.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: M&M'sMom on November 20, 2005, 04:45:34 am
    Judy- I think the pic you have as yor AVATAR (?) is perfect for a Christmas card!  I keep EVERY picture I have gotten in a special album ( Im a geek arent I?)

    Erin- I don't think I even get 5 Christmas cards all year.... It's not that we are unpopular ( trust me we are nice people withmany friends ) I just don't think our friends think of it as a great gesture anymore... I love the idea! I keep all the pictures in an album so I too can see how our friends babes have grown...

    Hannah- I have a very small area in my closet that I know I will keep clothes with out baby barf on them... they are my "nice" Clothes. This includes 1) a nice pair of sweats, 2) a 3 year old comfy tank top I like to wear out 3) a new shirt I bought 3 weeks ago, that just hasn't met it's match with the barf babies yet... soon though I can feel it.


    Well we will chat later!!!

    jods
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 05:48:24 am
    Naomi-glad you brought that conversation to an end...didn't quite feel right mixing porn talk with talk of Taylor KWIM?  I am not a party pooper and am in no means a prude (ask DH), but porn for me is a very sensitive issue (not sure why it bothers me so much, but it REALLY does-if dh watched not sure he would be dh actually).  actually I think I know why it bothers me so much...I know my dad watched it and it kind of hurt my parents marriage, and a kid shouldn't have to know that stuff about their parents.   :oops: the chat tomorrow is definitely the arena to talk about it though!   :lol: okay, nuff of that.  BTW, I could work on a pu/pd bullet point thingy for you...when would you need it by?

    so glad to hear sophie commando crawled today!  yeah for her!  we are anxiously anticipating the day Taylor does it...actually last night at bed time she started crying and dh found her in the position pushing her head up against the bumper and dh had a little talk with her.  he said, "Taylor, now is not the time to be testing out your skills, now go to bed."
    Hannah-regardign the funny onesies...not to give too much away, but our company is kind of along the same lines.  Funny, sassy onesies and t-shirts and pants.  Also t-s and pants with original artwork on them.  there really seems to be a market out there for that kind of stuff.
    BTW HANNAH-check your PM's.  I sent you one this morning.

    what else?  oh yeah Judy, WOW on the bomb you dropped about a previous marriage.  you sound so happy now and it sounds like dh is an amazing father and husband.

    Ankie-glad you at least got a good nap, even if the night was bad :(

    Jody-we are sending out cards with a pic of the 3 of us.  usually we do art and I with the 2 dogs and cat, but this year the animals are gettign the boot!  it's all about us and baby T! :D

     :?: BTW, anyone else with animals jsut not have the patience for them anymore like you used to before the baby?  I feel awful because our older dog Maddy was like our baby...totally spoiled her and thought I couldn't love anything more than I loved her.  but then you get a baby and realize you were nuts because you love the baby soooo much more.  I just find myself getting annoyed with her... :?

    okay, I know there were othere people to respond to but dh just came in with the puppy dog eyes :roll:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 05:50:36 am
    oh yeah...we gave Taylor tofu a couple of days ago and she loves it and am giving her some at every meal!  she must like the texture and the fact that she can 'chew' it...we got the firm kind.
    anyone else try it?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 20, 2005, 07:40:35 am
    Yeah for Sophie!!! Can't keep her down now, Hannah!

    Andrea... there is a boutique here in a specialty mall called "Kid's Only Market" on Granville Island. They carry cute organic cotton onesies that say, "pumpkin", "peanut", "sweetpea", "monkey", and other common terms of endearment for los. Also, they carry hard to find "relative" related stuff... i.e."I dream of being as sophisicated and charming as my Aunt", "I'm (going to be) a big brother." etc. I love this store and shop there (although I shouldn't be shopping at all) because they have hard to find, cute and unique stuff. I am SO looking forward to your line of children't wear!!!

    Jody... I also keep all the pics I have received with cards, etc. in an album. People always want to look through this album when they come over. They know I do it and when they look and find that they forgot to send me a picture, they are disappointed and for sure, I get one the next year! We got our Christmas portraits done last week and we are sending them out first week of December.

    Okay... trying to attach pictures... Arwyn was in her sling for a walk around the house... Daddy and Arwyn after portraits at Sears... and Arwyn waiting to go out (we put her in her bumbo by the door while we run around, getting all our stuff)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: becca24 on November 20, 2005, 08:35:57 am
    Hi Everyone,

    It's Sunday night here and dd has just gone to bed - yeehaa - so here I am again checking all the posts. There is not as many on the weekends is there?? We had a lovely day today, we went into town to meet friends for a bbq. Some had flown over from WA on their way to Chili, picking up some friends here on the way. The BBQ was overlooking one of the beaches. Halle was sooooo good considering she woke from her morning nap at 10.30, only had about 20min nap in the pram at the bbq and then in bed at 6.50.  :D I love it when she is good like that because it gives me so much more confidence to get out and do things. In the beginning I was so sure I was going to be stuck in the house forever wearing my pj's, eating vegemite toast and carrying around crying baby!!

    Thanks so much for the lovely comments about Halle. Roz - I get so many comments about her eyes it is amazing (proud mum here  :) ) Hey and what's this 'Nutty Bec' stuff??  :lol:  :lol:

    Jods - sorry about you nearly peeing your pants  :lol:

    Ankie - love the pictures, especially that hat !!!!

    Jo - I would love to meet up next time you are in Newcastle!! Make sure you let me know.

    Andrea - that cracked me up about what your dh said to Taylor!! What size is your clothing going up to? I suppose you should tell me what age as your sizes are probably different from ours. That is so true about the animals. My younger dog, Abby, was my little baby. Sometimes if you leave the gate open a little to long she will take the chance and just take off to chase some kangaroos or whatever. I would go look for her, calling out, panicking and almost being in tears if she was gone too long. This morning she took off and was gone for ages and I was like "yeah she'll be back". My poor old horses don't get much attention these days either but I am sure they would prefer it that way.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 20, 2005, 13:23:13 pm
    hi there girls, how are you all doing today!
    Andrea- thanks for the thought of tofu, I think I will try some with Riely as we are trying to go back to our vegetarian diet now, I am like a ravenous beast when it comes to burgers when I am pg, takes a while for the craving to go away.
    I too am finding it a little tough finding the time for my cats, I have three, bud, buster and figaro. put the first two names together and that is what I named them after, a budbuster, kwim....yup, total 360 degrees from the way I used to be in life.
    Is anyone elses lo doing the non crawling thing or am I the only one, Riley is still debating between crawling and walking, but she seems more interested in standing at the mo, even likes to let go with one hand, little daredevil that she is...haha
    Oh, andrea, the bullet point thingy for pu/pd, I guess sometime before the end of the month is good, I tried explaining it to dh before, but I think he was overwhelmed by it to be honest, if you want you could pm or email me the points...thank you soooo much for that hunny.
    I had a totally nuts thought last night about this meet up idea, what about a cruise in the carribbean, a good vacation for everyone, just a thought but it would be sooo cool.
    k...I am done for now, I will "see" you all later my fine ladies.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 20, 2005, 14:17:36 pm
    my gosh, so much to comment on when I'm gone for a day. And not even a whole day at that :D

    Richelle-so exciting about it being your last week.  And I think this was your quote "
    Quote (selected)
    the last time I saw her i probably had a ciggy hanging out of my mouth and a beer in one hand, a tequila in the other and I belive there was some joking around about a threesome or my DH watching her and i kiss?
      that was hysterical!

    Jody- I love getting any christmas card-pics or no pics.  And I'd like to propose something girls.  If everyone doesn't mind emailing me their addresses I'll compile a list and email it out to everyone. That is...if everyone is interested in getting pics of our BW los?

    okay, little man only slept an hour...wanted 1.5...will continue this later tonight or tomorrow.  we have company all day when we get back from santa pics
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 16:15:45 pm
    OK, girls...I'm finally back after a weekend of camping and 2 weeks of sickness being passed around our house. (Thanks Richelle for pulling me back in!). I'm sure I've missed so much since I've been gone. Maybe someday I'll go back and catch up, but for now, I'm just going to say "hello" and "I'm back." (Did you miss me?  :D )

    Like I said we've been sick around here. Olivia had a sinus infection (and then I got it, now DH has it). It was a rough week...but I think we're out of the worst of it...just in time to have company and travel for the holiday!

    Well, hope you are all doing well. I missed my support group! Gotta run...I'll check back soon.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 16:16:32 pm
    P.S. I FINALLY figured out how to update my avatar...it's a little late, but isn't Olivia adorable in her Ladybug costume?!  Just had to brag.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Erin M on November 20, 2005, 16:19:48 pm
    Traci - I'm up for the Christmas card list.  If others are, I'll email you my address.

    Ankie - lovely pics.  I love her in the Bumbo while you're getting ready. 

    So I've given Katie formula at her noon feeding every day since Thursday.  We're also had some rough nights the past few days.  However, she's also pretty stuffy and coughing, drooling lots, chewing on things...you get the picture.  I can't decide if it's the formula or teeth or a cold (or the position of the moon or the way the planets are aligned...you KWIM).  Any thoughts on this one?  I'm thinking of giving her the formula at a different time today and seeing if it makes a difference.  Right now, she seems to be waking up 11-12 hours after I give it to her -- seems to long to me to be a reaction...but what do I know? 

    Andrea - if you get something bullet-point worked out about PU/PD I'd love to see it too.

    Hope to see you all later, if I don't just give up and go to bed right after Katie goes to sleep.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: mickymuscles on November 20, 2005, 16:37:04 pm
    hi girls!

    nancy...good to see you back!!  I thought my typing skills had scared you off for good!  :D

    Erin- IMO I think she is teething.  If she was going to have a reaction to the formula it would be within an hour or so of giving it....or she would be constipated from it. Jack has also been having some bad night wakings too lately.  He cries out almost once an hour but usually able to resettle himself.  Last night one of the times he couldn't resettle so I went in and gave him some tylenol then he slept for 2 hours until it was time to get up for the day.

    Traci-I'm totally game to send you my address. Let me know. :D

    Richelle- What a small world.  I wasn't sure if you would know them.  I have no clue how big the islands are so I wasn't sure if I was going to seem like a moron for asking! :wink:   I just heard lately (I don't see much of them unfortunately) that Sandy is a woodworking apprentice and that she cut the tips of her fingers off in a table saw!!! :shock:  :shock:   YOUCH!!!!!!!

    Jody-sorry for not getting back to you about meeting you at the mall...i forgot and DH has been feeling like I've been either attached to this computer or out shopping! :wink:   Also I can't stand being near WEM at x-mas time esp on the weekends! :shock:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 16:54:37 pm
    Erin--Olivia has also been waking at night. She lets out a scream, too, then usually settles herself back to sleep. It started a day or so before she got sick, so I thought it was related to that. Actually, I thought she was teething for the first couple of days, until she started having a fever. Then I figured she's come down with something. The night wakings are doing better now that she's almost over the sinus infection. I wonder if it's related to the sickness, or if it's just a developmental thing at this age if your LOs are doing the same thing?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kate585 on November 20, 2005, 17:02:54 pm
    Hey, girls!  Glad you are all doing well. 

    Bec---a dog chasing kangaroos?   :shock:   Comments liek these are one of the many reasons I love this site and my global friends.  So normal for a dog to go chase a kangaroo instead of a squirrell, I guess.   8)   Too cool!!! 

    Nancy, so glad to see you back and Olivia is ADORABLE!!!! 

    Jody-  I can't wait to start my Christmas cards and take Ryan's picture.  I too keep all the card pics each year.  I just put them in my current album...I like yours and Ankie's idea of a separate album to put out at Christmas time.  Hmmmm maybe I should start one this year?  Again, love all the ideas I get at this site!

    Andrea---can't wait for Taylor Made!  My husband keeps asking when Ryan will be able to wear the shirt I got him that says, "Don't hate me because I'm AWESOME!"   :lol:   It's a 2T, though, but dh thinks it's too funny and has asked at least 5 times if Ryan's big enough yeat.   :roll:   So, we'd obviously be game to shop.  How fun that you have a built in group of shoppers already!  (Btw, don't forget to add the website to your signature when you get it up and running...more free advertising!)

    We are doing well...when I changed Ryan's diaper today I said to him, "You didn't pull a Ryan, did you?"  Okay, I am an evil mother...someday I'll have to let him know his pooping antics were internationally known.  I'm sure he'll love that!   :lol:   
    Have another prenatal party this afternoon, but the party is at 2:00...right in the middle of naptime.  I told them I'd be on time, but dh will have to drop Ryan off whenever he wakes up.  It's too funny, b/c when the babes were so small one of our instructors had a 7 month old and couldn't come to the parties b/c her lo would be in the middle of naptime.   We were all like, "Too bad.  I'll never miss something for a naptime.  Just put him to bed earlier."   :D   What know-it-alls we were!

    There goes the little man now..maybe he will make the party afterall!
    Have a great day and I'll "see" you tonight, I hope!
    Love, Kate
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 20, 2005, 17:08:16 pm
    Micky -OM about the finger tips..youch is right!!  Make sure to say hey in and when you see them next!

    Nancy - So nice to have you back :wink: !

    Traci - I am glad that was amusing, I can't get over that that was not all that long ago and I have not gone out in 17 months!! :shock:   The girls keep bugging me about going out (none of the 'girls') have babies  :roll:  so it is difficult for them to understand my limitations or my lack of motivation to spend a day with Sophie hung over :oops:  :shock: !

    Question:  Has anyone started 'disciplining' their lo's?  I posted in the toddler/discipline forum b/c I was at a loss where to post the question. 

    Ok, the history is that Sophie blows VERY loud and aggressive raspberries when she is annoyed.  It is generally very funny and I am glad that she has started to communicate instead of cry but the problem is that she will do this when she has had enough food or does not like what I try to feed her ending with the person feeding her with a face full of food :shock: !  She is also commando crawling and about to crawl any day and I know I need to be able to set limits but what? how? when?

    When she does the spitting food thing I say "sophie that is not nice, please don't"  and I put my fingers over her mouth but hate doing this, it feels like I am being mean. like I am gaggig her or something for teying to communicate.  I really don't kow what to do, maybe buy one of those plastic protective masks like a welders mask and let her keep at it? :wink:  8)

    Anyway, that is my question of the day.....
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 20, 2005, 18:31:08 pm
    Richelle,  first off I think everyone has to take whichever approach to discipline feels right to them.  My approach would be to take that as Sophie's way of communicating to you that she's no longer hungry -since you feel she's only doing this when she's done or doesn't like her food.  So, since she can't say "no thanks mom" or "seriously?  You expect me to EAT this crap?" :) you could just say whatever it is you'd like her to say some day and then give her what she likes or stop feeding.  "all done? ok then"

    As for crawling... see I've found that a constant harping of no no no,don't touch that... is just annoying to me and to them so I just remove or reposition things I don't want them into.  This way we can live somewhat less stressed lives by at least not having to worry about what the kids are into.  Other things I don't want to move and aren't breakable I let them investigate and then move on to something else with them.  I think if you don't want them throwing all the cd's on the floor then you either have to move them OR engage them in something more interesting.  I think expecting children under 3 to stop doing something interesting like tossing cd's about and to find themselves something else to do is setting everyone up for failure and frustration.  It just ain't gonna happen - in my experience.  AND, this is where I will veer from 'the norm' I feel that a) my children didn't ASK to be born b) it's not their fault they're too young to get a job and pay the mortgage - does this mean that the home is LESS theirs?  I don't believe so.  This is their home too, their lives and who wants to live a life being nagged at all day long and told NO to almost everything interesting in their own home?   

    Again, just my opinion so discard it if it doesn't fit with your parenting preferences.

    And I know for myself it's easy to nag all day at the kids when I'm tired.  Gosh it can be very draining somedays... but it also seems the days I'm on them more the more they do things I'd rather they didn't do.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: M&M'sMom on November 20, 2005, 18:39:02 pm
    Okay here is a general reply to the crawling comments... The girls are scooting around a tiny bit. They get up on their knees but cant seem to move?? I guess crawling is around the corner? :shock:

    As for cute shirts... we picked up t-shirts yesterday that say:

    "My mommy is the prettiest"  :oops:
    "My daddy is hansome" :wink:

    I LOVE THEM!

    Take care,
    Jody
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 20, 2005, 18:42:37 pm
    Thanks Judy - What a great way to look at things!  I love the idea that it is their house too.  I can't imagine nagging her all day and hope I won't as you are right, how in the heck can I expect a baby to understand where I am coming from?

    I suppose I have this silly image (hopefullly like some of you 1st timers out there) that Sophie will be the most well behaved little girl with proper manners ect... :oops:  :roll: so silly I know but how can I help myself from kidding myself?  It is all going by so fast I really don't want to waste my time with Sophie locked in one struggle after another - thanks again or the perspective Judy!

    By the way Nancy - Olivia is adorable - do you have her sitting in a planter pot?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 20, 2005, 18:50:24 pm
    Richelle, yep I take the same approach as Judy to blowing raspberries.  If she does it, it's only when eating and towards the end of the meal, I choose not to say anything, not make eye contact about it (I've even asked Nathan not to laugh a couple of times in a boring way so it doesn't stir him up to do it more  :roll: ) while she's doing it and then with a smile on my face just annouce "ok, you're all full, that was a yummy meal wasn't it" or something to that effect. 

    I also put away a lot of things when Nathan was at this stage, it just wasn't worth the hassle of repeatedly saying no over and over, stressed me out more, distraction is really the only other thing that I found worked at this age - CD's were put away for over a year.  DVD/CD's are still preyed on in this house with Nathan at 2.5 and that is with them now in his reach (ie the novelty just hasn't worn off) - I've just got to accept if he can get them, then it's my fault if they get scratched.

    Well Danielle is no where near crawling or anything, she's flapping around a lot, but that's about it.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 20, 2005, 19:04:56 pm
    I keep forgetting to post about the onesies!  I have 2 for Sophie one says "i eat dirt"  and the other says "I am NOT a boy"  They have all sorts of crazy ones at a boutique here, baby towels that have crazy do's and don't about bathing a baby on them ect ect...- very funny :lol: !  I am excited for your website Andrea, will you ship to Cayman?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 19:42:57 pm
    oh gosh you guys...you are all so supportive I love coming here.
    THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST AND SUPPORT! :D

    all this talk makes me so anxious, but patience is a virtue right?  So last week we took 10/30 of our designs to the screen printer to get started on.  He says he can get about 3 done a week (so about 3 weeks before all 10 are done) :evil: .  teh initial set up is the hardest and longest because he has to make all teh screens, and then after that it will be a snap.  but I am still excited with our progress!

    so like I said, lots of cute and sassy sayings...mainly on black and white and gray clothing (think kind of edgy rock and roll type of baby).  There will be some pink and blue t's, but I want it to be very different from teh typical baby clothes you see, and also very basic.  don't we as adults love black and white clothes the best after all?

    so thanks again...and yes, we will ship all over this great big world!!!

    Bec-btw, how funny is that...dog chasing kangaroos?  :)  LOL!!!

    lvoe the pics too Jody, Bec (cute ne avatar) and Nancy-welcome back!!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 20, 2005, 21:36:39 pm
    Ladies, I need help.

    Arwyn is now biting me hard! I tell her "no" and she doesn't let go, just looks at me and bites down harder. I can't rip my nipple outta there because that would KILL! Anyhow, as a result, she is not getting as much milk as she should and is now seriously constipated.

    I tell her "no" each time she bites but... it is not working. This morning, I progressed to saying "no" and poking her cheek lightly. It doesn't work either. She won't take a bottle, this biting while nursing thing is hampering her from getting enough milk, she is messing seriously with the milk supply... and it is reducing me to frustrated tears.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 20, 2005, 21:43:52 pm
    Hey ladies!!!  (so Beastie Boys :))
    SO...where to begin?
    Welcome back Nancy.  I say don't worry about catching up if you can't just jump right back in :)
    Judy dh and I loved your comments on discipline.  I definately agree.  Although I am sure it will be a challenge, as everything else has been.
    I too would love a point by point on pu pd...I want one for my friend when I go back to work (and dh could probably use it too).
    I have a mini dh rave since I am usually ranting...I thought I'd take this opportunity to rave...
    Anyhow, last night after dd was asleep, I went out for a few groceries.  When I got to the store, I realized I had left my wallet at home    :oops: How long can I use the mommy-brain excuse??? Anyhow, I came back to get it, I was on the phone this whole time too, so I came in the door, quietly said to dh, "It's me I forgot my wallet" and he very quietly said back "OK"..I thought he sounded a bit strange but figured maybe he had fallen asleep.  So I left.. When I got home he explained that Sophie had woken up screaming the house down (Love that expression :)) and he went in to her picked her up bounced her (argh!) and she let out a huge burp, so he treid to put her back down but she started screaming again so he picked her back up and walkwed with her for a minute until she started to settled.  As he was putting her back down again, he said she puked all over the bed!  So, he had to take the sheets off etc, then  put her back down...anyhow, I guess I came homw in the middle of all of this...I was amazed he didn't say "Hey..please stay and help!"  He's pretty self-sufficient/confident with dd, I like that. 
    Ankie, adorable pictures of Arwyn and you too!!! SHe looks so much like both of you.  Too cute.
    Jody, was it you who said dh works for Roush racing?  DH is a huge fan of Nascar!!! Actually Brendan kinda got into it and sucked daddy in with him...dh is actually on the comp upstairs watching the updates..poor guy no cable here so he cdan't watch the race :(
    Traci, I'm game on the address thing too....although I haven't gotten myself togtehr yet to do the cards/pics...I think I am going to have Shutterfly  do the whole kaboodle.
    Hey ANkie, question for you, and any one else who has input.  We have been working with Sophie on the signs for milk and all done and more.  But mostly milk.  She has started to do the milk sign but it sweems like she kind of does it all the time not necessarily just when she wants milk.  Is this normal?  Do you think she actually knows what she's doing or is she just clenching her hand?  We try to reinforce it when she does it by oferring her milk  or at least showing it to her??  I don't really know how to do it though because we have been doing water in the sippy cup and I don't really want to give her a bottle while she's in her highchair if she asks for milk....anyhow...any suggestions? Does Arwyn sign for milk even when she doesn't really want it? what do you do?
    OK, I guess that's it for now.
    Talk to you later ladies.
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 20, 2005, 21:47:13 pm
    Ankie, we posted at the same time.  I am so sorry!! I don't know if I really have any good advice since I am not bfing.  Can you pump while she's on strike to at least keep the supply going??  Also, just for whatever it's worth, I have had times when I have pumped a lot less and milk supply has decreased, but then I started pumping more frequently and it increased again, a little slowly but eventually it was back.  SO don't worry about supply.
    Hopefully the others can give some good advice about the biting.  Take care sweetie. Hugs to you.
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: becca24 on November 20, 2005, 22:03:25 pm
    Hi

    Ankie - have you posted in the breastfeeding forum about the biting? I am sure you will get some great advice from someone there. I did read a thread about biting on there some time ago I think :?

    My opinion on the dicipline thing is I think sometimes people use too many words. For example a friend of mine has two boys and they really are out of control. Someone suggested putting a list of rules up and if one rule is broken they have time out or whatever. She said she is not having much success with it. Anyway, the other day I was at her place and she ask me what I thought of the rule chart. The first rule says 1. Do what Mummy tells you to do the first time she tells you to do it :?:? :? :? What I plan to do with Halle (and I could be eating my own words later  :roll: ) is similar to the principals I use when teaching a horse manners - that is, ignore the 'wrong' behaviour and reward the right. That is a really simple way of putting it but the long explaination would take me all day.

    LOL about the kangaroo thing. I live near the bush so it's pretty normal around here to see them. My Grandfather like to eat them but I can't bring myself to try it  :wink:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 20, 2005, 22:41:01 pm
    hey guys...can't stay away today but seriously should be doing something about this house.

    First Hannah, way to go DH!!!  that actually is a proud moment because a lot of guys would have blocked the door from you leaving  :lol:   Also, I think it was you that asked a few pages back about if they wake early for a feed (say 6 am), do you put themback down?  Since Taylor has been doing this for almost 4 weeks now  :x , I've jsut kind of been giving up and going with the flow and after the feed she always falls back to sleep, and it is considered part of night sleep...not a nap.  HTH

    Erin-we have the same thing going on over here with sniffles, loss of appetite and tons of drooling.  I think it is teething, but lordy who knows right?  she doesn't seem like she has a cold, but what do i know?

    Ankie-cute pics by the way!!!  a couple of months back when Taylor was TUGGING REALLY HARD on me the ladies in bf forum said to ignore it.  don't say ouch or react at all and it will go away.  it did for a while, but now she is grabbing my nipple with her little sharp fingernails! :shock:  :evil:   continuing to ignore, but very hard to do so!  HTH.

    Discipline--hmmm.  what do you all think about putting the stuff away that is very valuable/sentimental and of course dangerous and leaving everything else out?  kinda like what Judy said.  I have seen my niece who is 20 months be barracaded in multiple gates around the house in the means of baby proofing.  now they can't really go to anyone else's house w/o both parents there to watch because the kid wants to get into everything...it's almost like she hasn't learned her limits because everything has just been taken away KWIM???  Am I being naive as well?  Love to hear your thoughts Nikki, Naomi and Judy.

    Thanks!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 20, 2005, 23:06:46 pm
    Thanks for the ealry waking info, that was me. 
    Ankie--you asked about the For the Kids CD?? It is produced by Tom Gates and Mark Jowett.
    Try http://www.musicforthekids.com

    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 20, 2005, 23:12:34 pm
    Hi Ladies

    Ankie - love the pics!  What a cutie.  Can't help with the biting thing, sorry.  Fraser still has no teeth.  He does claw my nipple like Andrea said - I just try and hold his little hands away.  I have read suggestions to break the latch, wait a moment and then relatch.  Don't know if that is successful or not though.

    Nancy - great to see you back here!

    Traci - I'll send my address if everyone is going to... Just let us know

    Lots more to comment on but I'm a little pre-occupied.  I really need your help..

    We are having really serious sleep problems.  It is taking us over an hour to put Fraser down at night, he is waking 2 or 3 times for up to an hour at a time, and he is waking for the day at 5.00am.  We had a grand total last night of 8.5 hours sleep (well, Fraser did.  DH and I got about 3 hours)  I am seriously losing the plot.  I would love the PU/PD tip sheet Andrea if you are putting one together.  But from those of you who have been successful with PU/PD - could you give me pointers please.  On the couple of occassions I have tried it Fraser has screamed hysterically for at least an hour (or until I have given up) and has vomited everywhere.  Clearly either I'm doing something wrong or Fraser is just not suited to PU/PD.  Anyway, I'm nearly at the end of my rope here - I think I am about 1 night away from CC  :cry:  :cry: I can't cope.  Please help me.

    Thanks friends
    Jo
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Carter'sMama on November 20, 2005, 23:42:24 pm
    Wow, what a busy day!!  We had an open house today so I had to clean like a madwoman to get ready for it.  Apparently there was one couple who was really interested so hopefully they will put in a decent offer!!  While I was reading and trying to catch up on the last few days of posts, 2 new whole pages were added!!!!  There is so much going on!!  :)

    Hannah:  It's my DH that works for Roush!  He is actually glued to the tv right now.  We don't have cable either but somehow he gets it on one of our 6 channels.   It is the last race of the season and 4 of the 5 roush drivers are in the top 10 for the "race to the cup" or whatever it is sooo he is pretty excited.  I don't mind because he gets Carter to watch it with him so I get mommy time.  It's weird that Carter will actually watch it because usually he hates tv, even baby einstein videos.

    Andrea:  I know what you mean about the animals.  I love my cat and dog like crazy but they are so much more annoying now!!!  I don't even let my dog Boss wear his collar in the house anymore because when he shakes the tags jingle and wake Carter up.  I am thankful that my cat doesn't try and get into the crib or anything.  He basically ignores Carter.  Carter on the other hand tries to pull his fur and he absolutely loves teh dog.  When Carter is having a fit, crying hysterically we just call the dog and he instantly stops crying!

    Traci:  That is a great idea about the Xmas cards.  I will send you my address if that's what everyone is doing. 

    Ankie:  Carter went through a stage where he would deliberately look me right in the eye and then clamp his jaw shut while he was feeding.  Those little teeth are sharp  :shock:    Usually I would yell "ouch" (because it really hurt) and kind of push him away.  The yell shocked him enough that he would release the death grip.  If he doesn't release his jaw then I would stick my finger in the side of his mouth to open it and free myself.  Sometimes he would start to cry but he only bit me 5-6 times and now he never does it.  I would also take him off and sit him beside me and say "Well I guess you are done then, don't bite mommy"  which would always result in crying but it seemed to work.

    I am definitely interested in the "Taylor Made" line of clothing.  I love the cute sayings on baby clothes.  I forget who said it but the "I eat dirt" is hilarious!!  We just bought the "My daddy is hadsome" one for a friend of ours.  Carter has a onesie that says "Little engineer" that DH dresses him in EVERY time he gets him dressed.  When Carter was little he had a baby hat that said "Boobman" (again DH loved this one!).  There is a website that makes funny t-shirts for kids/babies but some of them are pretty bad. I forget what the website is but some of the shirts are "Daddy's little squirt" and it shows a sperm, or there is one that says "They shake me" or one that shows stitches and says "I tore mommy a new one"  They are kinda funny in a sick way and I would never put them on a child!!!  My DH's friend send him the link because he ordered one for his son!!

    Oh my, DH just rolled CArter in the computer room on his Kawasaki tricycle!!! It was in a box last time I checked.  He must of just put it together.  He says to me "Look his feet don't even touch the ground and when I push him on it his legs get caught behind and underneath the back wheels"  ... and this is funny????  I'm thinking oh sure why don't you keep pushing him around in it then ... seriously, do men think at all???  He yells to me "I think he really likes it!!"  Oh great, where are we going to hide a freakin tricycle until he is old enough to actually use it??!!  I guess I'd better go and take control fo the situation before someone (namely Carter) gets hurt!
    Hope everyone has a great night!  What time is the chat anyway?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 20, 2005, 23:52:37 pm
    Ankie, re biting.  What I did with Nathan was say "no" firmly and remove him from the breast.  He got over it in about a week.  BUT, try not to be scary (I learnt that the hard way), Nathan got a fright because it was a pain reaction from me and he went on a nursing strike for 24hrs at 8mths.  I had to work quite hard to get him back nursing and took about 4 days.  Does it happen at a certain time during a feed?  If it's at the end she's probably telling you she's had enough.  The other thing is, they can't really bite while fully properly latched and tend to pull back a little to do it, so if you can be watching what she's doing and quickly insert your little finger in the side of her mouth and let that take the brunt of it and then say no and remove.  Try and be really consistent with it and it should come right.  There is another method which I haven't tried, and that is to pull her into your breast and kind of smother her in your boob and she should let go - not sure about that method though? It could also be teething related so will hopefully pass.  Nathan only did it over a week at 8mths when he got his two top teeth and I never had any problems after that.

    Andrea, I found with Nathan, if I removed all the precious stuff and left things that I didn't mind him playing with (I left all my books out, he loved flipping through them) and I wasn't going to stress over he'd leave it alone once he got it out of his system.  For example, even curtains, a lot of mums I know really stressed over them, Nathan would spend all day (well it felt like it) flapping the curtains around, I just left him to it and he did it over a few weeks and then stopped.  Doors as well, he was so active early on, I really didn't stress over him swinging a door back and forwards (nothing too dangerous going on though) and he learnt how to move his fingers out of the way and we've never had any problems, whereas mums I know were still going on about it at 2yrs of age cause their children had never been allowed to learn the cause and effect of how a door works.  As for then going to other peoples houses and running havoc - I've honestly never found that a problem, he has always responded to "no" (I actually used the phrase uh-oh and save no for special times when it's a safety issue) or distraction a lot better when out and about. :?  (It's something to do with feeling safe and able to "test" the  boundaries in a safe environment at home with people that love them).

    JMHO, HTH. :)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 20, 2005, 23:56:44 pm
    just to let everyone know that the chat starts for us tonight at 9pm est, I think it is10am for jo and becca,and I think 11am for nikki. I hope I am right in those times for you girls, but I do know that the chat for us starts at 9pmest in north america
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 21, 2005, 00:02:11 am
    Jo so sorry to hear about your night problems.  Poor sleep is the worst!! It just sucks!

    Perhaps Fraser isn't suited to pu/pd.  I would say if it is making him worse for a long time until he's vomitting then definitely don't do it. 

    Here's how I do it and it seems to work with Hannah (Kaia sucks her finger and doesn't really need much pu/pd):

    She sleeps on her tummy, so I say to her "it's time for sleep" and then lie her on her tummy straighten out her sleep sac and then put my hand on her back.  If she quiets I remove my hand and attempt to leave the room and see if she cries or not.  If she cries I pick her back up sorta rolling her over to lying in my arms on her back, kiss her temple and say "it's time for sleep" and then lie her back down crying or not (the only time I continue to hold her is if she really starts to calm quickly and then I'll hold her only until she stops crying and then lie her down) once she's lying down I do the same thing, straighten the sleep sac, put my hand on her back and wait a second or two.  If she's still crying I do it all over again exactly the same way over and over and over.  If her lying down crying is just intermittent and somewhat quiet, not getting louder or more intense then I may try to just put my hand there and say "it's time for sleep" and see if that works.  At times I do very lightly tap her back just for a few seconds to kinda distract her from her crying and then just leave my hand quietly there. 

    I would say though if he starts getting more and more upset, to a point of being hysterical, by the pu/pd then don't do it.  Not sure if you fit in the crib!! LOL  Seriously though, in Tracy's latest book there was a lo who was worse with PU/PD and she suggested they were not feeling comfortable with their crib and she crawled right in there with them to comfort them. (around pg. 241)

    She also suggests having them in the crib with fun toys to have fun and play during wake time too.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 21, 2005, 00:03:42 am
    Oh as for  putting all the valuables away.  I put away anything that would be heartbreaking for me (or put it higher) if it broke.  But I do have things around that I'd prefer they not touch or play with.  So as I mentioned before I would investigate it with them and then move on with them to something just as or more interesting.  Yes, they need to understand that some things are very important to people and not toys.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 21, 2005, 00:18:40 am
    Thanks Judy - I had read your previous post on using PU/PD and so I had been trying to follow your suggestions.  Can I ask, how long do you pick up for.  I was trying the pick up, say "it's night time, time for sleep", lay him across me, kiss temple, put down.  I guess - 10 seconds.  Is this too short?  This was when he was getting more and more hysterical and vomiting so obviously something was wrong.  I did forget to keep my hand on him in cot though, maybe that was stuffing it up??? 

    LOL about getting in the cot with him - I haven't tried that since, oh, last night!!  I've been in there with him at least half a dozen times.  Yes, all 5'9" of me, in the cot with him.  Doesn't calm him in the least.  Nothing I seem to try does. 

    Have asked DH to read the section in BWSAYP on PU/PD for a 6-8month old today.  He told me he would if he wasn't asleep.  I very nearly said something along the lines of "yep, you do that while I am at work, trying to make some money and keep us all in our house a$$hole!".  Guess I'm a bit overtired myself.

    Sorry, waffling - so Judy, how long?  Ta!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 21, 2005, 00:24:48 am
    Hey Jo - yeah I'd have made a similar comment (or wanted to) to my dh as well.  I could ask him to read something but he'd give me some line about it just being a book, just someone else's opinion and he doesn't need more opinions blah blah blah.

    Anyway - how long?  Gee I think 10seconds or so if she's not seeming to calm and a bit longer if she is going to calm.  I can't imagine the hand thing being what's upsetting him so much or missing it - but maybe???  Hard to say.  How does he respond if you keep talking quietly and rub his back?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 21, 2005, 00:29:54 am
    He's like the freaking Energizer Bunny (do you have the Energizer Bunny??)  He doesn't even seem to hear me talking to him, he rolls around like a crazy man, scissors his legs on the mattress (does this immediately upon waking too), gets up on hands and knees and rocks, and bangs his head on the mattress over and over and over.  I have tried to pin him down but it makes him madder.  Aaahh, I don't know what to do.....
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 21, 2005, 00:35:14 am
    Oh and here's my other thought on lo's touching breakables at other people's houses.

    I think hoping to go somewhere that isn't childproof with a young child and thinking that you are going to sit down, relax and visit is a sure recipe for problems.  Even if there's nothing in your own house in their reach that they shouldn't play with - you can still be right there at someone else's home and say "isn't this nice?  I think it's very special to grandma though so we shouldn't touch it unless we ask her first."  then either touch/explore it with them (and assume you can never leave then unattended around it :)) or just move on with them to something else interesting they'd like to do.

    Example. I let my girls jump/dance on the coffee table.  They can jump from the coffee table to the couch (but I ask them not to just jump up and down on the couch - because bouncing off into the coffee table hurts a lot more than bouncing off the coffee table on to the couch.  AND I assume they could break an arm falling off the couch and I'm sure a trip to the ER with a broken arm in a young kid would be investigated by child services... and I assume that "they fell off the couch" is a typical excuse given by someone abusing their kids... KWIM??  Call me paranoid!! :) )  BUT, my girlfriend does not even let her kids sit on her coffee table... so when we're there of course my girls sit on it and I say "this table is Sally's and Sally prefers that you don't sit on it" and either they get off of their own will or I try to interest them in something else there or in the playroom.  I also talk to them about it at home sometimes (not always) when they're jumping here - "it's ok to jump on our table but not everyone likes it so when we are at Sally's or Grandma's we need to understand that it isn't ok to jump on the coffee table".  Zoe gets this - Sarah might get it but she's too impulsive to be able to control her urges so she needs more hands on help.

    My parents have a ton of breakable silly things all over the place and it makes or visits more stressful.  It's their house and they should be able to decorate it however they want.. but we just don't come to hang out very often either.  I don't see the point... with four kids I can't sit for a second so I can't be bothered to go there -easier if they just come here.  And my dad is very anal about his house... he gets all uptight about his wood floors and gets noticeably annoyed if children play with plastic toys (read non-threatening to the floor) on the floor.   :roll:  His right for sure and I shouldn't criticize it but my thinking is that his time would be better spent enjoying his grandchildren and guests rather than worrying about a scratch on a wood floor.  It's a floor for goodness sake.  Mind you I wouldn't let my kids go at it with my keys - but a plastic toy???
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 21, 2005, 00:36:27 am
    Jo, what if you had a longer wind down time - just walking quietly around the house with him for say 20 minutes??
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 21, 2005, 00:52:05 am
    Judy, you have a great way of articulating discipline issues - I love reading your responses.  :D

    Jo, not sure if you've mentioned it or not, but does Fraser have a cuddly of some sort?  Perhaps you and he could snuggle with that during your winddown time?  Sorry you're having a rough time.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 21, 2005, 01:02:32 am
    Hi again (my turn to hog the thread today, sorry!!)

    Nikki - Fraser has a teddy that he sometimes cuddles, however often he grabs a hold of one of his arms and thrashes him around the cot.  We do perservere though - on some very rare occassions he just lies down and cuddles Ted, chats to him and goes to sleep - he did that this morning apparently, always when Mama is at work so I don't get to enjoy it  :roll:

    What does everyone think about limiting day time sleep (robbing Peter to pay Paul right??)  I asked DH to wake Fraser after 1 and a quarter hours this morning - but just found out the nap went 8.15 - 9.30.  Kind of hoping that might mean 2 more naps for the day, but now I'm not sure whether we should cut short the next nap too.  Thoughts anyone?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 21, 2005, 01:46:56 am
    Jo, what's Fraser routine looking like now?  Do you think he's wanting to be up longer and dropping down to 2 naps?  Sorry, if you've already covered that.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 21, 2005, 01:53:58 am
    Hi Nikki

    To save boring everyone else with the detail - I'll PM you.  Thanks!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 21, 2005, 02:14:48 am
    Hi everyone, I was away for the weekend and didn't get a chance to pop in. So I've scanned the 12 pages I missed and will start fresh again now.

    Ankie, I love Arwyn's Chrissy outfit, I've been waiting to get our tree up before I take a photo of Daniel for cards. The rule in our house is not before 1 December. I set the rule so to keep myself from putting it up in NOvember. But this year DH will be away the week leading up to the 1st Dec, so it may just go up early. Daniel isn't quite crawling yet, but it won't be long, so if he crawls before Christmas the tree may have to come down. Therefore, I'll get it up to enjoy as soon as I can get away with!  :lol:  :lol:

    We had our first swimming lesson today. Daniel loved it. Well, he seemed to enjoy it. No tears, just smiles and kicks. It's held in our base pool, so just a 2 minute stroll to the class. There's only 3 of us doing it, so great for one on one attention and help. One of the mums I already know, but the other is new back on base, infact, we're now living in the house they left 2 years ago when transferred off base! I haven't known her in the past so it's nice to now have the opportunity to get to know her. Also, she's now 2 doors down the road, so I"m sure if I'm not on here, doing housework or playing with Daniel, there's a strong likelyhood we'll be having coffee or going for walks.

    Mmm I've got a feeling the chat might be on now. Might pop on and check. If not, I'll be back later anyway.

    Oh, apart from last night (up 4 times) our nights are going really well, sleeping about 11 hours most nights, and naps are great too. If only we could get Daniel enjoying eating his solids.....

    Finally, the weaning has been successful, Daniel loves the bottle, and although I'm currently lopsided due to one side drying up quicker than the other, so far all is going fairly smoothly in that department. Panadol is a great help!

    Bye for now.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 21, 2005, 02:23:13 am
    Richelle--yes, Olivia is in a flower pot. We were trying to find something to help her sit up, b/c she couldn't quite do it on her own yet, and that was handy and empty. So we padded it with old towels and put her in! I think it made for a really cute picture!

    I noticed some of you talking about signs (trying to catch up on the 40-something pages I missed!). We've been trying signs with Liv for "eat, milk, more, all done," etc. But she doesn't seem to really be catching on. I do the sign before I give her whatever it is. I think she's starting to recognize the words. For example, when I say, "Are you ready to eat?" She looks at me like she's expecting me to do the sign. For those of you who this has worked for, do you think it seems she's catching on? It's so hard to tell. How long did you do it before your LO picked up on it? Did you have to do anything other than doing the sign consistently?

    Also...I've seen a lot of talk about Xmas cards and addresses. Could someone give me a brief explanation of what that's about? You can PM me if you don't want so everyone doesn't have to hear it again.

    I'll keep trying to catch up. You girls make it hard to be away!!  :lol:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 21, 2005, 02:59:56 am
    About the signing... Arwyn now signs "milk" anytimes she wants something. But, it usually is pretty obvious what she wants... for example, she will stare at her bottle of water and sign... she stares at her toy and signs... tonight, I gave DH a bottle to put her down with and she stared at the door and signed like a madwoman for me. Still bit me though :roll: .

    It is normal for one sign to become prominent. I know Arwyn knows it means "milk" because that is the only time I will reinforce it... I say, "Do you want some milk?' and sign milk simulaneously on the word 'milk'. She uses it to mean "want"... fine with me... it will work itself out.

    I sign alot to her but that is the only obviously recognizable sign I see and that is the one we have used since birth.

    HTH...
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: hayes on November 21, 2005, 03:37:18 am
    Crapola missed the chat again.  Got into a very heavy discussion with DH.
    Andrea-Tried tofu last week and got lots of gags.  I will try it again soon.  Have heard that babies love it and it makes a great protein.  Our dog has been our baby and he is now getting tons more attention with me being at home.  But he is driving me crazy, I feel like I am tripping over him every other step.
    Naomi-not crawling here either.  I started putting Ben on the rug with toys further away and this is making him move a little more.  Just rolling, scooting on the butt and some moving backwards.
    Ankie-Have you tried taking your LO off, waiting about 15 minutes then retrying?
    Cathy-LOL about the trycicle.  DH bought a wagon but luckily it is up in the rafters for a while.  We have no room in our house for any toys.  It will be interesting after CHristmas considering the toys I requested from the grandparents.
    Jo-The only time I limit naps is if I need to go somewhere and it has already been an 1 1/2 or if it get to 4:45.  Ben goes to bed at 7.  We dropped the cat nap about 6 weeks ago and his day time naps lenghthened a bit.  He is still sleeping 11-12 hours at night but he has always been a very sleepy baby.
    Hope you all had a great weekend. 
    macaire
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: hayes on November 21, 2005, 03:47:22 am
    Trying to post some pictures AGAIN.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: hayes on November 21, 2005, 03:49:04 am
    One more!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 21, 2005, 13:28:28 pm
    becca, it didn't work. Damn I got all excited to see you too..lol
    Macaire- what a beautiful family you have, it is so nice to see the faces of those we talk to everyday.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 21, 2005, 13:50:56 pm
    Macaire-love the pics.  so funny with DH and Ben in the car.  hee hee.

    Bec-get with it will you.  At least if it doesn't work try and try again!!  I am so in suspense it's not funny.

    Jo-I am so sorry you are at your wits end.  Not sure I have anything to add.  I hope Naomi and others were able to pm you some info.

    Nancy-I'm gathering up mailing addresses for christmas cards. If you'd like to participate please send me yours by email or PM.  Welcome back-happy to hear the family is on the mend

    Nikki-I wish I could just let Cole flap away at the curtains.  It's not so much the curtains i'm worried about but that's he'll pull the whole kit and kaboodle down on his head.  It's just a simple rod with Ikea curtains...not the most sturdy.  I let him get into DVDs since the cases are softer but I don't want him busting the CD cases.  Like I said last night he's climbing the magazine rack too.  I don't want to get rid of it.  Maybe i'll get rid of the glass candle holder behind it.  I should just give him more "safe" things in the room to play with.  And maybe rotate his toys as he seems pretty bored already.

    Ankie-Cole has bitten a bit, but nothing like Arwyn.  And he doesn't have teeth yet.  I've heard of the smothering technique nikki mentioned but haven't tried it.  I can usually sense he's going to do it (near end of feed) so I pop him off and say "please don't bit mommy, it hurts"

    Here are pics of us yesterday.  Not the best pic of me and you can't really see my new hair.  DH takes too long to take pics and he got too close up.  Anyhoo, here they are.  Not the one with Santa because it's a poopy pic and it would have to be scanned in anyway.  gotta go and get a shower in the event of 45 min. nap.

    (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/santahatanddaddy.jpg)

    (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/momandsantahat.jpg)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: B&BMommy on November 21, 2005, 14:42:38 pm
    Good Morning Everyone

    I've been mia for the last few days and I'm so sorry. I feel like I've missed so very much. Got lots of catching up to do on all of you. btw, love the pics everyone, I want to post one of Brady and I, but sadly, I don't have one, I'm the one always taking the pics of Brady or Brady with everyone, that I don't have any of the two  of us...I'll have to get DH or someone to take one and I'll post it when I get it. :oops:

    So the reason I've been mia, is that we have had lots happening. We have had a bit of a family crisis with my sister, all seems to be ok now, long story, but a bit of a scare etc.  And Brady has not been eating or drinking well since about Thursday. Not taking very much fluid or drinks at all. We are going to the doctor today, he also has a cold now. Came down with it on Sunday, stuffy, runny nose, eyes watering, cough etc...poor little guy, I feel so bad for him. :(

    And,,,well as you call all probably guess, we haven't got much sleep as of late either. With the family crisis, Brady being sick, and then his just usual way of not sleeping, I'm on about 8 hours of sleep in total, since Friday...can you say exhausted. :roll:

    Anyway, off to have a shower, just put Brady down for a nap, want to get that in before we head to the doctors office.  I'll post after and get all caught up on everyone....

    Have a good day!!

    Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook  Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kate585 on November 21, 2005, 16:00:35 pm
    Hey, ladies.  After a long put down process, Ryan had a pretty good night, thank goodness.  I am so worried that I am becoming a prop, but I also know that Sep. anxiety has kicked in majorly over here.  During the day, neither of us can leave the room a lot of the time.  Of course we do after telling him where we are going and that we'll be right back, but still, it's frustrating! 
    Holly, glad to see you back!  I was wondering about you.  Sorry for the rough few days...families are a lot of work sometimes.  Hope all is well!

    Christmas ideas:  Here is a picture of Ryan with the Leap Frog Discovery Ball.  It was $20 or so at Wal-Mart.   :evil:   It says the letter, the sound, or plays a song for each letter and sings a song (the alphabet or something classical depending on the setting) when he spins it.  It plays part of the song and will finish it as it is spun more (if that makes sense) It's funny, b/c he doesn't like to stop the ABC's until they are all done...he must be a genius!  I think we'll hold off on the fridge alphabet thing as it seems too complicated for him at this age...although the fridge farm set IS on the list!
    Finally, I am also asking one of the grandparents for a wagon.  It'll be perfect for the spring and summer!
    Gotta go finish shining my sink.  Are you impressed, Traci?   :wink:   It's been sitting with the bleach water for an hour.  Dh is not too excited about this new progam though.  He said, "Great.  Another program.  Can't wait."  Sounds jerky, but I try new organziation strategies all the time...he can never find anything.  Maybe this one will stick?  Hope so!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: M&M'sMom on November 21, 2005, 16:39:16 pm
    Jo- the girls started to get a little feisty at nep time a few weeks ago.. we hadn't changed any of our wind down routine and dh and I had no clue what was going on. We tried something new that has worked like a DREAM! We lay them in their cribs, cover them up, and READ A STORY!! I thought at first we would be keeping them awake- but they were out cold in a matter of minutes!! We just read in a very low- somewhat monotone voice- and even if they start fussing we just raise our voice a little so they can hear us over their fusses, and it still works!


    I am having a heck of a problem with Maisie getting up at 3,4,5am and TALKING... like as if she thinks it's the morning? It goes on for about 10-15 mins then she falls back asleep... except at 5 when she really gets mad if you don't come see her! I know I have read a lot about 5 am wake ups... but it never really applied to us until now. I am getting worried she will think it is morning time. Makaylee hates being woken up by Mais, so if Mais screams enough she can get her sister up to scream too.... I am getting really mad at Maisie in the morning and I hate that.... can anyone suggest something? PLEASE!


    Holly- I am sorry to hear you are having some concerns with your sister, I hope everything is okay! {{{HUGS}}} Both girls jus got over colds and it sure isn't pleasant.. They hated taking their bottle being so stuffy and all, I just took it in stride and offered them a bit more solids right after... they would devour the extra food! Now they are back on eating schedule, after the cold lasted 2 weeks... then the teeth started up again! It's a never ending cycle with these two..... Good luck with Brady's cold, sending "cold-cure vibes"...

    Jody
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: solnme on November 21, 2005, 17:32:00 pm
    Caught up on the 5 pages I missed.  Lots of traffic through our place this weekend.  Sport junkies yelling and screaming but they do make good babysitters.   :wink:

    Ankie - have had one biting incident.  Sol thought it was really funny to watch me howl in pain. I almost dropped him! 

    Bec - you remind me of my cheeky UK cousins and yes, they and I suspect you, are nutters!  :D  :D never a dull moment!

    Jo - we're starting to have some nighttime issues as well.  Can't complain about the naps though.  He's taken 4 - 2.5 hour naps over the weekend.  WE've been putting him down about a 1/2 hr later for bedtime but he's still waking once or twice during the night.  Usually just needs a cuddle and a chance to stare before he goes back down. 
    Last week it took 30 - 45 mins to put him to bed 5 out of 7 nights.  Looking back I realized the nights he wouldn't go down we had been inconsistant with his winddown routine.  Either people were here, we skipped the bath or something was different.  Even though people were over this weekend I made sure DH and I were the only ones putting him to bed and didn't skip over anything.  I seemed to work.

    Looking for a convertible car seat now.  DH is trying to convince me to buy a Recardo carseat on e-bay.  They make seats for racing cars.  :roll:   What a couck!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Carter'sMama on November 21, 2005, 18:09:45 pm
    Hello everyone!

    Well, I guess putting Carter to bed an hour earlier than normal and cutting out a feed was too much ... he woke at 4:30am!!  So, I fed him and he did go back to sleep until 7:00 but I couldn't get back to sleep!!

    Roz:  Were your sports junkies watching the Nascar race?  That's what was blaring on the tv here yesterday.

    I have a question for everyone regarding AF!  Hope it's not TMI but I am just curious.  When did everyone get AF after having their lo's (esp bf moms)??  Was it normal or longer or more painful???  Everything here seems to be out of whack  :?

    Anyway, Carcheezy is grumpy, must be nap time so ttyl!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 21, 2005, 20:05:32 pm
    Hi, just wrote a 'letter' to you all and I accidently pressed the wrong button and lost it.   :(

    So, the short version is (you'd probably prefer that anyway), we had a great night again. Sorry to brag but it's such a relief after 7 months of waking at night. Daniel slept 6.30pm - 5.42am. I've decided this is his wake up time and there's nothing I can do about it, so I'm not trying to get him back to bed. His first nap has taken a while for him to go down for, a poopy nappy contributed to the problem. But after about 45 mins of mucking around noises he's now asleep. Yay. Hopfully for a big long nap.

    The swimming photo will have to wait as it's just of me holding him in the water. I'm sure we'll be down there again soon though and I'll get an action shot (maybe with DH).

    I think I've solved Daniel's eating problem. I'm pretty sure I need to feed him within 30mins of having a bottle. It worked again thismorning. Lots to eat and no crying. Don't know why and I'm off to the osteopath tomorrow to have him checked anyway, but it seems to be working. Also, it works out his feeds are a lot earlier than before, so I guess he's not so hungry.

    I was looking on the 6-12month EASY board for routines when changing the solids to before milk. It doesn't appear that many people seem to do that. I will re-read Tracy's book, but is it not something Tracy advocates this young? My health nurse said by 9 months he should be eating solids first. So how would the routine look for that? Anyone doing that or starting to do that soon?

    Better go and cook Daniel's pears, they've been sitting there a week already and I haven't done anything with them. I've got some prunes to try too!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 21, 2005, 20:55:15 pm
    Cathy-no AF here yet. 

    Q for Hayley and anyone else who had to work to get their lo to take a bottle.  If I were to leave him with DH for a day I read in tracy's book that you offer the bottle every hour and eventually they will take it when they are hungry enough.  Do you still offer solids at the regular times?  Or only continue to offer the bottle?  I really really want to get Cole on the bottle.  Not only am I feeling really tied down but DH is upset that he won't take it from him :oops:
    Also, if he took Avent in the past should I just keep trying those, or should I try another nipple?  I'm going to try this week for each feed and see if he'll take it from me, otherwise Saturday might be the big day.

    that's all from me for now.  crankipants is down for catnap.  it's usually his best nap of the day *sigh* :roll:  gotta get some stuff done.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kq on November 21, 2005, 21:39:47 pm
    Cathy, AF here since 4 months of age even though BF although now only doing 2 feeds/day.
    Traci, I did not do the whole day starvation thing for 2 reasons:
     :arrow: felt that the bottle was a skill that he had not learnt and not a battle of wills so while I wanted him hungry enough to try, I did not feel that I could deprive him of food ALL day.
     :arrow: exploding boobs!!! :wink:
    We did it over a weekend and the first day, we tried for 6 hours with naps as usual in between trying..Sam was not on solids yet but I would give solids if he was.
    I would stick with the Avent if he has had it before. HTH.
    Will write more later. Sam has just woken after a 1 and 3/4 hour nap!!! :shock:
    Karen
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 21, 2005, 21:53:30 pm
    Hi Ladies,

    Sorry to have missed that darn chat again but I was zonked, I slept like the ens and so did my little ens, bless her cotton socks!!  I put her down ealry as she only napped 1 hour for both of her naps and started grumbling at 530PM :shock:  bath is usually at 630.  I bathed and had her in bed and asleep by 615 and I had to wake her at 630AM!! 

    Although to answer you Jody - Sophie does usually wake around 3 or 4 AM and talks to herself for awhile before going back to sleep but if it bothers me or wakes me up I just turn the monitor down :oops:  :wink: .  I figure if she really needs me i will here her screaming.  I couldn't imagine having to worry about one waking the other up, god love you mom's with twins!

    Traci- How sweet are those pictures, Cole is so flippin' cute!

    Macaire - Glad to finally put a face to the name, hotstuff, lol driving with DH!

    Bec - What's up?  I got all pumped as well for the picture and nada, what gives?

    Cathy - I have had the pleasure of AF for the past 4 months.  I got it while still exclusively BFing but Sophie slept through the night by then so I guess that was it.  I unfortunately have her visiting at the moment (i know TMI) but am soooooo dissappointed as we are trying for another.  So, disappointed in fact I think I got too stressed about it and think maybe i need to put it out of my head for awhile :( .

    Hayley - I give Sophie her lunch before a bottle.  I used to at breakfast as well but now i give her 1/2 her bottle an hour before solids and 1/2 right after.  Then her supper feed she gets solids and water, she has a bottle at 3PM and 1 before bed so I am not worried about her intake although at lunch she leaves a few ounces. 

    Kate - That Ryan, what a smile...soooooo adorable! 

    I cannot even begin to think about Christmas - our lives are mayhem right now and will be until after Christmas.  IL's get here3 on Wednesday night and will spoil her to death with presents and I know that we will have an early Christmas while I am in Canada with my parents and she will be spoiled beyond belief.  I can't imagine when I get back (Dec. 14th)having to unpack(my suitcases and all our moving boxes - could I assume that DH will do this while I am away? :roll: ) and decorate but I probably will :wink: !  We have a HUGE inflatable Xmas tree with snowmen attached - I will unflate out by the pool for some Xmas pic's of Sophie and maybe get around to doing some cards by the new year!!

    I am sure that I will be back again this evening - I am at work but I am just running shifts until Saturday as I have wrapped up my admin stuff, so basically I will have time to kill unless we are busy :wink: !
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kate585 on November 21, 2005, 23:28:24 pm
    should NOT be near the computer right now, but can't seem to stay away!  Just wanted to say great pics, Bec!  Halle seems to be a perfect  combination of you and dh...lucky girl!   :wink:

    And, go, Richelle!  So excited you are almost done.  Maybe you should tell dh that the best gift he could give you is an unpacked house.  Then, if you are like me, you'd have to rearrange everything anyway, but at least it would be unpacked.   :lol:

    Cathy, no AF due to low estrogen birth control...but only for another few months! 

    Ummm...I think that's it.  I do not have super brain like Andrea.   :)   
    We are off for a bath and then an (early) evening at the childrens museum!  I am in this parenting group through our school district and you have to go to one group meeting and this will count. Won't stay very long but am excited to see Ryan in the baby room!
    TTFN!!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 21, 2005, 23:44:28 pm
    Hey girls.
    bec, you sure do know how to make a girl feel good :)
    Love the photos.  It is so fun to put faces with names.
    It is slowly dawning on me that mothers look like us!  Does that make sense?  Or that we look like mothers?  I guess what I mean is I always sort of had this picture in my head of what a mother looks like (maybe my mother?) So I keep expecting you gals to look like "mothers" but you're all just super cute chicks with babes :)  How fun is that?!
    Soooo sorry I missed the chat last night.  I too got embroiled in a long heart to heart with dh.  It all started when I asked him to bathe Sophie and he said "No, that's OK, I'll let you do it"...I was like "What?! You'll LET me do it?!"  How sweet of you.  :evil: (Where the shooting emoticon when you need it?)  So anywho, we needed to talk.  Thank goodness he is a good talker...once we get going.  It just amazes me how quickly things can "build up" if you don't discuss them.  And it's never done of course, there's always so much more...
    Judy and ? My dh will NOT read either...totally know what you mean about the attitude of not needing another person's opinion..drives me up a wall..
    Anywho...
    I took some friends to the airport this am.  MIL came over to sit with dd.  Snuck into the mall afterwards to return and just happened to pick up a gorgeous pair of chocolate brown cords...mmmm...just kinda tired of wearing jeans all the time.   Mind you this is the same mall where there was a shooter yesterday...just opened fire in the mall.  Lovely huh?  Gun control anyone? 
    I was supposed to go grocery shopping but, woops! used up all my time shopping for clothes...ah...who needs to eat anyway :)
    So I totally missed you girls last night and one of the results of dh and my talk was to instate a "date" night, and get this the only night that really works is Sunday!!! Crike :)...my new favorite word by the way!  OK, I know this is totally selffish, but is there ANY chance that anyone would be willing to change the chat night???  If not, of course that's ok. I just thought It can't hurt to ask.
    Hope you are all well.
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 22, 2005, 00:06:47 am
    i just have one thing to say, DH walking in in 2 minutes for dinner.

    Hannah-i know what you're saying about us moms.  MILF, that's the word you're looking for.  it's been covered 8)  :P  :D  8)  :wink:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kq on November 22, 2005, 00:19:19 am
    Am with Hannah about wondering if we could change chat night. I work Mondays and this is when the current chat is on. Don't worry if it is a hassle.
    Karen
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 22, 2005, 00:22:56 am
    ROTFLMAO - WE ARE A BUNCH OF TASTY TID BITS AREN'T WE!

    Kate - After rereading my post I thought to myself that it would probably be more work if he did actually unpack the house.  These poor DH's of ours (or at least mine) get a bad rap sometimes!!  I love that big lug but I honestly do not know how I have gotten by without smacking him around at times :oops:  :lol: !  He always says that it is good that he drives me crazy, that means that I am still nuts about him and that he can't wait to be crochety old bitties nagging at eachother!

    I am also interested in this organization 'thing' that involves a shiny sink? 

    Naomi - Was it you who suggested the Caribbean cruise?  Take a cruise here and we can all hang at my house for the day!! :lol:  :shock: !  Wouldn't it truley be great to all meet up?  We could have a MILF convention!

    Anyway should go try and appear busy :oops:  :shock: !
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 22, 2005, 00:30:13 am
    You ladies are just great... my entertainment for the day... during the day... during my free time... at night... spending way too much time on here!!

    Great pictures everybody! Thanks for posting, Bec!! Was going blue from holding my breath  :wink:

    Missed you chatting, Hannah!

    So... no AF here either. EBFing and even when feedings were missed when Arwyn slept through the night (which is NOT now  :roll: ).

    Karen... about giving the bottle... So... did you mean that you gave Sam the boob before and after those 6 hours? I need to start giving the bottle and I need Arwyn to take it before Dec 1st. I have a 3 day meeting starting then. Also, I am afraid that if I don't BF her during the day, she will use the night to make up for it!! What's your opinion.

    Traci... what have you tried so far?

    Hayley... how did you do it, again? I tried to go back in the pages to find it but hey, we are up to 114 pages and I have a short napper :wink: .

    Frozen BM... anyone notice that it smells funny? Not at all like fresh BM?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 22, 2005, 01:08:29 am
    Ankie - I had to post!!  When I read your post I thouhgt to myself Frozen BM (Bowel Movement)?  What in the heck is she freezing poo for? Come on especially after the next line - Notice that it smells funny :shock:  :shock: !

    OMG I am sooo thick somtimes - it seriously took me an embarassing few moments to catch on :oops:  :shock:  :D  :roll: !
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Carter'sMama on November 22, 2005, 01:11:33 am
    I think it is weird how AF works ... there is nor rhyme or reason eh?  I got mine back at 2 months postpartum and it lasted for a whole MONTH!!!!  Then nothing for 2 months.  I went to my ob who said I had low estrogen and may not get AF for a year, and he put me on estrogen cream.  Last month AF shows up, lasts 5 days (shorter than prepregnancy) and now nothing again.  Who knows ... definitely makes it hard to ttc!!!

    Ankie:  I totally know what you mean about frozen breast milk.  I am always afraid that it has gone bad because it smells funny.

    We just got home from getting Carter's Xmas pics done.  I won't get them for 2 weeks unfortunately but they turned out really nice.  I planned them for the same time that DH gets home from work so he showed up just as we were starting and Carter was all smiles cause his Daddy was there.

    Anyway, it's bottle and then bf time sooo here's hoping everyone has a great night!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 22, 2005, 01:45:01 am
    Holly--sorry to hear about the cold. Olivia just got over one (and now DH and I have it!) She also refused bottle and solids the whole time she was sick. I ended up offering her bottle every couple of hours instead of at regular feeding times, b/c she would only eat 2-3 oz at a time. I figured since she was sick it was OK. Since she's been feeling better the last couple of days, her appetite has returned to normal and so have feeding times.

    Traci--when we were trying to first get Liv to take a bottle, we tried offering every hour like the book suggested, but she only got more mad the hungrier she got. We finally caved in. What worked for us was offering it to her at the same feeding each day (only one feeding). If she refused after 15-20 minutes, I BF her. It took about a week of doing this before she finally took it with no problem.

    Cathy--no AF yet. I BF for 4 1/2 months. I called my OB last month when I got no AF, and she said it's common and the longer you BF the longer it can take for AF to return.

    OK, girls, here's a question--DH has been home since Friday afternoon sick. Olivia was taking great naps until yesterday. Suddenly they've gotten shorter (today only 2 30-min naps!!) and she's having a hard time going down at night (not like her). We've tried to keep to the routine (as much as we can with both of us being sick). Do you think just having DH around all the time is throwing her off? He plays with her and carries her around more than I do when it's just me all day. Any thoughts on this? DH is feeling better and going back to work tomorrow, so I'm ready to get back into our regular routine...just in time to leave on Wed for the holidays! Aaauuuggghhh!!!

    Speaking of having trouble going to bed...have to go settle her. Catch you girls later.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Judy on November 22, 2005, 02:15:26 am
    Nancy: Yes it likely IS dh throwing a wrench into things.  Life is much different here when dh is at work than on weekends.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 22, 2005, 02:47:39 am
    Hardly on the eye bags Bec.

    Definately different with the dh around...can sometimes be harder.

    Af is all over the place since dd.  ??? Who knew things would be so different for so long :)

    Thanks for the info on signing Ankie.  So when you say you only reinforce her when there is milk around what do you mean by reinforce? Sign back? Dh cracks me up sometimes.  he wants to make her sign milk before he gives her the milk, so he holds the bottle behind his back waiting for her to sign it :? I mean I'm no expert but that kinda goes against my common sense.

    I had a little giggle at frozen BM too...anything having to do with butts pretty much makes me laugh...Sophie will love my sense of humor from about age 3-7 :)
    Someone once told me that you should taste your bm (EEEEWWWWW gross...OK got out my 1st grade humor) Breast Milk that is (some of you may still be saying eeewww grrooosss) so that you know what it tastes like fresh vs. sour.   It kinda makes sense.  I can't really bring myself to do it all the time, but  I did do it once or twice with fresh milk so I have a good idea what that tastes like so now if I have any concerns (which is rare any more) I'll tase a tiny bit.
    Hopefully I haven't ruined all of your appetites.
    Of course now tonight I have all the time in the world...dh working late. I'll check back in a few minutes (Oh who am I kidding---I'll be checking back all night :)) If anyone is on and wanting to chat...let me know  I also have a stack of  2nd hand People magazines calling my name...soooo trashy and such a delicious waste of time.
    Hannah :)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 22, 2005, 03:12:21 am
    Hannah... I'm here and DH is not... will sign in to the chat room and stay there until 7:45 pm PST.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 22, 2005, 03:27:09 am
    Richelle & Ankie = ROTFLMAO (is that right???) I was laughing so much at frozen pooh that Daniel started laughing too!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

    Okay, as for the bottle, firstly I found it was DEFINITELY the type of bottle/teet that did the trick (I'm sure of it). It's called a B-Free bottle was called Dr Brown's bottle but now renamed. They come from the UK but there's an importer in NZ that I got mine from. The teet is really soft and Daniel was able to do the breastfeeding 'suck' from it and get milk out, whereas with the normal bottles if they do that nothing comes out. So for the first day he managed to get milk from it even though not sucking correctly. We've tried Tommee Tippee and Avent and the flat teets since he was about 2 months and he would never drink from them. Even when I tried one day once before not giving him any feeds but bottle, he just got really upset. And a nanny told me not to try feeding bottle when they're upset, wait until he calms down or it will be worse.

    Secondly, although he took the bottle from DH he actually preferred to take it from me. He's fed for 7 months from me, so I think he found it more reassuring/comforting. But yes, I left DH to feed him for the day. He got up for the first feed, he took about 50 mls I think only, still had solids as usual and we put some of the formula in the solids too, so he could get used to the taste. I did come and go a couple of times during the day but NOT around feed times. Just so Daniel knew I hadn't abandoned him. Also we made sure he saw me leave.

    The other thing I did which I think helped was for about 1 month prior to the day I started giving him the bottle with water in it as a play toy. Just so he could get used to it being in his mouth. THat was before I got the great bottle. He would chew on it mostly, but every so often I'd try to give it to him with formula in it or b/milk and while he was playing with it try to feed him with it while he was sitting down. Oh yeah, the first couple of days we COULD NOT HOLD HIM. He would sit on the floor infront of us and just tilt his head back for it. The bed time feed was the first one he'd let me hold him for.

    The actual day of change over we kept the routine the same. He probably took about 600mls throughout the day. He now happily takes 1 litre or more if I'd let him! The other trick is to have the bottle quite warm. Warmer than the temperature indicators say to have it. If it cools down while feeding he'll often stop drinking! If I reheat it he'll take it again. As a guide I microwave it for about 15-20 seconds if it starts at room temperature.

    Sorry this is so long, but I was soooo relieved when it finally worked, I know what you're going thru, so anything I can say that might just help I'm happy to share. If you want to know anything else, just PM me.

    Gotta go, Daniel's wanting dinner.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 22, 2005, 04:05:41 am
    Hannah

    I was trying to PM you and it wasn't going through.  I was trying to tell you I got booted off the computer, or site or something. 

    I am not sure but I was all pumped to have a beer with you, poop!

    So sorry....talk to you soon...
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 22, 2005, 04:09:47 am
    Richelle... me too!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: james030405 on November 22, 2005, 04:48:51 am
    Hi ladies, have been without computer for a few days  :twisted:  :?: Computers - cannot live with the, cannot live without them.  I get withdrawls from BW.   :lol:

    I have quickly read over the last five pages and I thought I would tell you all how I met my DH (although technically he is a DF (fiance' :lol: )

    I met him almost 14 years ago.  I was with his best friend, then we broke up.  I went over seas of about 1.5yrs and when I came back, we bumped into each other and went out on New Years Eve 1999.  The rest is history, we have been together for almost 6yrs, engaged for almost 1.  He is a cabinetmaker so he does the renovations to our house. I have had 2 kitchens in 4yrs :shock: LOL.

    Everything he is going okay, except for the early morning wakings.  Oh well, we are at least sleeping through the night.  Teething is going well, except for the grizziling :?  I guess, but he is getting 3 top teeth all at once :( He now has 6 teeth. 

    I am sorry everyone is having a bad time with sleep.  :(  I wish I could offer some suggestions.  I have only skimmed through all the pages, so I cannot replay personally to anyone, Sorry.

    counting down the days till  Christmas.  I personally LOVE christmas, so I am looking forward to it even more with James.  :P

    Chat soon

    Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 22, 2005, 05:22:49 am
    Hey you guys sorry about the chat.  I got booted off for awhile too.  When I got back you guys must have been booted.  Dh was on his way home anyway so my time was running out...thanks for the messages though.

    Ankie thanks for the signing info. 
    Glad that you girls are up for spontaneous chatting :)

    Hannah
    Thanks for sharing your story Lisa!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 22, 2005, 05:31:40 am
    Hi guys, super tired today and I told DH I would only be on till 9pm and it is now 9;30.  no super brain tonight!
    jsut wanted to say hi and will post tomorrow morning, and tell Hannah I am up for changing the chat if anyone else is okay with it.

    Cathy-BTW, I do the same thing wit Madeline's collar!  I had to take it off because the damned thing was so loud! :evil:  :evil:   BTW, she growled at taylor today!!! :(

    awesome pics everyone!  thanks for finally sharing Bec-you little aussie hottie!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: hayes on November 22, 2005, 06:04:54 am
    Great pictures everyone.  Can't wait to see more as Christmas time gets closer.
    Holly-Hope your sister is okay and you are getting some sleep.
    I am up for changing the chat day not that I have ever been on it...
    Ankie-Oh my, I wish someone was up so I could have laughed with them about the frozen BM.   I couldn't believe all of the thoughts that were running through my mind. 
    Cathy-I have only BF and got the monthly visitor this month.  I think because I fed Ben EBM and only pumped out 2oz at the feeding time.  I wasn't willing to sit there for another 40 minutes to get more milk.  I had never had bad cramps but oh my I felt like I was in labor this month.  Even had to take some tylenol.  Not too heavy but I am on the pill, low estrogen.  I am anxious to see what happens next month.  SOrry for the TMI everyone.
    I too have tasted my BM and so has DH.  Very sweet, I was surprised.  It must be because I am such a sweetie, ha ha.  ANYWAY-I have smelled sour breast milk and it smelled A LOT different from the strange non sour frozen BM, hope that makes sense.
    I am off to San Diego tomorrow to be with both sides of the family.  Should be interesting with my IL's, I am constantly dodging MIL and trying to stay sane at their house.
    Good night.
    macaire
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 22, 2005, 07:32:35 am
    Hi, I've just found out today I can get a flight up to Auckland on Friday and return the following Friday. DH is going away for work over the same time period and there's an airforce plane going up that I can get on. Yay. I won't be home by myself for a week. Now I'll just have to make sure I pack lightly so they let me on. I rang my mum and she was so excited. I thought about surprising her and just turning up, but she likes to enjoy the lead up of me coming and it gives her something to get excited about.

    Daniel is becoming quite the little travel-baby.

    I'm okay for most days for the chat. Just let me know.

    As for how DH and I met..... how's this for soppy.... he was the best man at my cousin's wedding! I wasn't the bridesmaid, so it's not too over the top here, I was a guest. I spotted the best man when I got there. Some of my cousins and family decided to find out if he was single and did some 'research'. I found out he was, then when he came to fill up my glass of bubbles while I was dancing, my friend immediately took the opportunity to leave me with him on the dancefloor. We didn't leave each others side until the next day. That night we ended up lying under the stars on a deck at the bach where I was staying (we were in the country 5 hours from home). Very romantic! We returned to Auckland separately, that night he called me and we talked for 2 hours. I think it's the longest phone call he's ever made!  :lol: We started dating and the rest is history.... We were married after 5 years on 14 Feb 2004.

    So that's my story.

    As for Christmas, I couldn't resist and played my Christmas CDs today. Daniel loved them. I think it was the music not my singing he liked.

     :lol:

    Gotta go, DH wants computer.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 22, 2005, 12:13:23 pm
    just wanted to pop on quickly, see bec,I knew you were a hottie, I guess it comes with the territory on this thread.
    I am up for changing the night of chat too, anynight is good for me, tho I won't be able to stay long on there tho as I start my new job on monday(next week). I am just running around getting things ready, I have to get my hair cut, buy make up( I have none), and buy some more dress clothes. I have worked in a uniform for so long that I only have a typical sahm look, jeans and tshirt.
    Well ladies, I am off for now...will talk to you later you hotties... :lol:  :lol:   :P  :P
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: B&BMommy on November 22, 2005, 14:08:08 pm
    Good Morning  :)


    Jody - what story are you reading the girls at nap time to put them to sleep so quickly...just have to know....lol...share pls :wink:
    Did you give the girls any medication for their colds, otc stuff at all, to help them out?? Thanks for the cold cure vibes...much needed....

    Cathy - we had the NASCAR race on here at our home on Sunday too...big race fans in our house, actually my parents were also down at the race... :lol:
    As for AF....I've had it the past two months....pretty intense :( I'm still BF Brady, but only twice a day now, the rest he takes a bottle, so I think its here to stay now.

    Nancy - Glad Olivia is feeling better, thanks for letting me know her appetite was during the cold, it makes me feel a bit better, knowing this is probably normal.

    Well, all in all, we had a pretty good nite....last bottle at 7:00, bed at 7:30, asleep at 8:00, up again at 9:00 for about half an hour.
    asleep till 12:30am, woke for about 1.5 hours, back in bed by 2:00am, and slept till 7:00am....this is a first for us.....I can't believe it....Yah!!!! I"m dancing right now...lmao....I'm hoping this keeps up.....I know it can be better, hoping with time....but after 8 months of hardly any sleep at all, this was a blessing.... :D

    Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 22, 2005, 16:57:07 pm
    Thanks for all the comments that Liv is probably just off her schedule. Even as I typed it, I thought, of course that's it, but sometimes you just need to hear it from someone else, KWIM?

    We're still off a bit. DH is back to work today (and I've got so much done this morning!) But Liv only took a 35 minute nap. We have a Mommy group this afternoon, so she probably won't get a good one then either. She's also been waking early in the mornings...6:30 compared to her usual 7:30. I suppose with the holidays and us traveling this week, I should just forget trying to do anything about it until we get back. She's never been off routine for this long (with sickness, PLUS the holiday). I hope it doesn't take too long to get her back on track when we get back.

    Sounds like you guys have so much fun in the chats...I need to join you sometime. Maybe after Thanksgiving.

    Well, better go get ready...have to leave soon. Have a great day everyone!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Erin M on November 22, 2005, 16:58:56 pm
    Hi girls - been busy the past few days and DH has been monopolizing the computer (applying to grad school! - we'll see how that goes - it would mean BIG changes if he gets in) --

    Anyway...
    Holly - YAY on the good sleep - fingers crossed that it continues - as for colds, I just run the humidifier in Katie's room when she's sleeping and put some eucalyptus oil in there to help with the congestion.  I also elevated the head of her crib (which would work better if she actually stayed there instead of turning all over the place!).  I took her to the doctor for her last cold and he said that if you give them anything that it just surpresses their ability to cough stuff up and might lead to them getting sicker.  Of course, if he gets an ear infection or something, then that's a different story.

    Nancy - good to see you back

    Hayley - loved the story

    Ankie - are you still getting bitten?  Katie has done that a few times lately as well with all those new teeth.  Wow, does it hurt.  Then she cries when I take her off.  I hope she stops soon (both of them actually).

    Just went upstairs to get Katie and she was kneeling in her crib, grabbing the top rail.  Seems like it's time to move the mattress down again.  I wonder how long until she's standing?

    To get Katie to take the bottle, I just offered an ounce or so at every feeding for a few weeks and nursed when she refused.  She took it eventually.  Oh, I've tasted breast milk too - just tastes like sweet milk. 

    Andrea - love the idea for lots of black, white, and grey stuff.  Katie's favorite newborn onesie of mine that someone gave to us said "I suck, therefore I am."

    Jo - Hope your nights are going better.  Katie rarely even sleeps as much as 3 hours during the day if that helps - more likely she'll sleep only around 2.5.
     
    We're off to Buffalo to see the in-laws for our Thanksgiving tomorrow.  My MIL is such a pack rat, I think I'm going to spend the next 5 days trying to convince Katie not to eat all of her stuff. 

    Sorry to have missed the chat again.  I'd be up to moving it to another night...or another time if it's more convenient for others.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: M&M'sMom on November 22, 2005, 17:23:44 pm
    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the States... my best friend was just visiting from Portland ans she said that the holiday is always on a thursday? What an odd day to have off, then have to go back to work for one, and off again... silly silly.... but still a day off right!

    Not that a lot of us mom's know what holidays are.. I don't even know when the weekend is anymore! Dh works a 4 days on-4days off schedule so he doesn't really know weekends either!

    I am getting a little excited- we are having a BW MEET-Up tommorow!!! Here in Edm! MomtoEllaRose is in town from Vancouver, albertasweetpea, and Mommy4life are going to be there too!


    Holly as for the books we read to the girls... they love books that rhyme... we have a great one called "Silly Sally" ( I could recite it to you if you'd like, read it enough times!) and they love Robert Munch ( okay may I LOVE Robert Munch books... My parents read them to me when I was little....). I claimed yesterday that the girls just fall right asleep... well Mais talked, sqwalked and blew rasberrys on her hand for an HOUR this morning... ggrrrrrr! Didn't wake Maky though!  As for over the counter meds... only used the homeopathic stuff for colds... every now and then a 1/2 shot of tylenol (in case of a sinus headache???) But the brand of natural stuff I use is called BOIRON ( I can remember if I posted this already?) and it's called "Coryzalia". It is for congestion, clears the nose up within 1/2 hour!!! Then they arent coughing because there isn't any snot in their throats (TMI!)... HTH


    I am having some night time issues and I am really hoping they are from teeth... Maisie is still waking at 3ish and SCREAMING her little head off... She doesn't want a bottle, she wants her sucky and a cuddle (and some orajel!) .. but they never ever have wanted their suckys, they have never been given them at bed, they are in their crib (the suckys) and they will grab them the ODD time and put them in their mouths, but I don't think they are dependant on them... WHAT IS IT? Teething has never bothered her this much-ever!

    HMMM????


    Sorry so freakin long...

    Jody
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 22, 2005, 17:38:50 pm
    Only have time for a quickie :)
    Sophie is rolling around on the bedroom floor and she keeps winding up under the bed!

    It sounds like people are up for moving the chat?  Anyone up for changing it to Monday or even Friday ?(I know, pathetic...dh plays hockey until late...again selfish of me) Or Tuesday...but then that's two chats in a row.  What do you think?

    Dh put dd in bed with me this am and we went back to sleep from 6:30-8:30!!! Yikes.  I sayed up really late last night, went grocery shopping cleaned the kitchen etc.  It's hard not to take advantage of those evening hours when baby is sleeping.  But now who knows what our day will hold??  I think I'll try to put her down for her first nap by about  10 or 10:30 and then maybe it will be short.
    She is kind of a sleepaholic sometimes.  I know that I should not really be reporting that when so many moms are having sleep issues, but truly, I am sometimes concerned because I have a sneaking suspicion it may be due to my depression meds??  Has anyone ever heard that? Although she's getting so much formula now, not only ebm...I guess we'll see.
    Babies' habits are like the weather in Washington...if you don't like it just wait 5 minutes :) It'll change!
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 22, 2005, 17:41:12 pm
    I can't wait to hear about the BW meet up Jody...soo envious!  Have fun.
    Hannah
    And hears to good health for all the babes with colds!
    Funny, Sophie just discovered the springy door stopper :)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kate585 on November 22, 2005, 19:24:26 pm
    Hi, girls!   

    Monday would be fine with me for chatting.  I think you're right, Hannah, two nights in a row might be too much for the dh's!   :lol:   

    Holly, CONGRATULATIONS!  5 hours in a row.  You must feel like that old guy who slept under the tree...what's his name?  I keep thinking Rumpelstiltskin (way off on the spelling!) but I know it's not him.  Anyway, way to go...stick with it and you'll be getting even more sleep!

    Jody, have fun at your meet up.  I am so jealous!!!  Yes, Thanksgiving is always the last Thursday in November.  Most people get or take Friday off, so it makes for a short work week and a long weekend.  Pretty nice, actually! 

    Gotta go.  Little Tiny Boy Friend is awake.   :D   (Shout out to Hannah!)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: james030405 on November 22, 2005, 19:57:23 pm
    Good luckand have fun with the BW meet up :)   Jo (Frasersmum) and I did it and it was nice to have someone else who understood PU/PD, spirited, touchy, grumpy etc......... :P

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone in America.  Eat and drink for everyone!!!

    James has decided to "sleepin" today (it is almost 6am).  :P As for bedtime routines, I have found that 15-20mins before James bedtime, we do "quite cuddles" (I even have DH saying this :lol: ) which usually means getting him off the floor because otherwise, he will just keep going and going.........(just like the Energizer Bunny as Jo said) and do things like look at the dog, wash bottle etc.  Then I go into his room where there is a nightlight on and a lamp.  I say thank you for a lovely day, we stand in the room for a few minutes, then we turn the lamp off, lay him in bed and say good night etc and then I turn the night light off.  Most of the time, he doesn't do anything except for roll around and other times he might cry for a few minutes and then he goes to sleep. Naps are another story though...... :shock:  I have found the shorter the bedtime routine the better.  I think this might be the spirited part :?

    Anyway, have a lovely catch up wiht BW and thanksgiving.

    Chat soon

    Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 22, 2005, 20:00:01 pm
    Goodmorning!

    Holly, well done, we all knew it would get better for you and it looks like things are improving greatly. Soon you won't remember those sleepless nights, they'll be a distant memory.

    Erin, I've just realised how silly some city/town names are.... You're off to Buffalo, we live next to a town called Bulls... you'd think town planners could be more original! Actually, Bulls was the surname of some guy from around here, but his first name was James. Why didn't they call it Jamestown, sounds so much better than Bulls.

    I keep thinking I've missed reading posts when some stuff is talked about (maybe I have) or do things get talked about in the chats then brought back here? Hopefully, that way my brain isn't too mummified. EG the Black, white and grey comment. I guess I'll just have to get with the play and join in the chats so I don't miss out!

    We had a terrible night last night with Daniel awake EVERY HOUR! THismorning I see he's sneezing and got a runny nose, so at least that explains his terrible night. Hopefully it won't last long as we're flying on Friday. Funny thing is that he's going NUTS thismorning. Full of energy, bouncing of the walls. The only thing I can do with im to get him to sit still happily is put on Baby Mozart. Even still he's shaking his toys, squealing, getting frustrated cos he can't crawl etc. Oh great, what a crazy day ahead of me I've got. My coffee group is meant to be coming here tomorrow, I better pre-warn of the runny nose.

    Crikey, I just wiped his nose and you'd think I'd turned off Baby Mozart!!! What a performance! :lol:

    I better go give my little man some cuddles. See you later.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 22, 2005, 20:02:00 pm
    Me Again!

    Naomi...I just wanted to tell you that I am thinking of you and the fact that you are going back to work on Monday.  Send us a pic of your new hair-do and work outfits.  I am sure you are going to look and do great!!!

    I am just so happy for you.

    Take care.
    Hannah

    PS: Kate...LOL about the little tiny boyfriend :)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 22, 2005, 20:04:25 pm
    Crikey!!! LOL!
    Hayley we posted at the same time.  Hope lo feels better.  Yeah the nose wiping thing is pretty awful.  I'm with you there.

    I keep forgetting to say yay!!!!! To Holly for the great night!!

    OK, really going now.
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: james030405 on November 22, 2005, 20:09:04 pm
    Early mornign nappy brain has set in today and I forgot to ask a question :?:

    Is anyone elses lo's resisting sitting in highchair, carseat?  James has learnt to fully extend legs and cry when being put into these.  I distract him and he sits down.  Don't you just love the little developmental milestones that they do.......... :?  :?

    well, James is still asleep - it is 6:10am.  Does anyone else get worried when they suddenly change?  Soemtimes I get too scared to go in and get DH to do it :oops: When does the risk of SIDS end?  :(  Is is after a year? 

    Chat soon

    Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 22, 2005, 20:10:50 pm
    Hey girls,

    Internet was down all day until now so I've not had a chance to catch up.  I think I smell a poop in the exersaucer but I'm sure it can wait a few moments.

    Thanks for the tips on the bottle.  I gave it a whirl today and he took 3 oz. of formula.  YAY!  Wouldn't take more though.  Not sure why.  Tried and tried and tried again.  He seemed to want to hold it himself so I just helped balance it.  But than later he didn't want me to help at all so you can imagine how successful that was.  Oh well, baby steps for my baby:)  He then took a quick feed off one side.

    Last night he slept from 6pm until 12:15am!  I fed and then he was up at 4:30, fed and down until 5:50.  So he switched his longer feed window.  Weird.  I was really hoping he might surprise me and go all the way until 4:30.  I don't think that will happen until I introduce some protein into his diet.  I think I might start with tofu...good idea girls! Do you mash it up?  Combine it with anything?  It's pretty bland as I remember.

    I'm up for changing the chat too.  UK chat is friday but they should be off by 9EST, if not then they're just crazy!

    OH YA-I think Cole has started saying mama!  Not sure if he knows that it's my name...but he'll say mama and I'll turn and say "yes Cole" then turn away and he'll say it again.
    of course, DH was feeding him breakfast this morning and from upstairs i heard mamamammamamamam, so I guess it's not directed at me.

    without the internet i had a chance to work on some photography projects.  I've printed off 3 black and white prints to go in these 3X3 frames we have.  One of his hand holding my finger, one of his feet and one of his face close up.  Can't wait to put them up!  Maybe I'll include a pic of the pics.  oops, he's going up the stairs.
    bye
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 22, 2005, 20:37:30 pm
    just a quick post for me for now, traci I was thinking of friday too, I thought then that way more of the OZ and NZ mums couls chat as it would be their saturday.
    9pm est would be 2am in the uk, so yes they would be nuts if they were still on, no biggie if they were, it would be a good way to meet other mums again.
    Hannah, thanks for the support on the new job. I am going to try and cut my hair on friday, I tried the other day but it was super busy. I will try to put up pic tho.
    It sems so weird that I will be going to work, but it won't be at a coffee shop, I feel all grown up starting an office job.
    K...bum duty and supper is awaiting me....just a quick q...do you steam asparagus when you cook it, I tried it at the restaurant the other day, thought I would try it at home. If it doens't work then it is mixed veggies for us....I sooo suck at cooking.
    Later my fine mummies. I just thought, Jessica and Lisa, I would love to see your pics...hint hint!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 22, 2005, 20:47:43 pm
    naomi-really quick.  I made asparagus and it turned out well like this:

    spray Pam or other non-stick spray on a cookie sheet.  Set oven to broil.

    spray pam or olive oil over asparagus spears spread out on sheet, sprinkle with salt and pepper and broil about 5 minutes, turning half way through.  they turn out just crunchy enough  YUM.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Erin M on November 22, 2005, 21:07:12 pm
    Lisa - SIDS risk decreases after 6 months and is pretty much gone by a year according to what I've r ead.

    Hannah - I've foung that when I put Katie in bed with us in the morning, she sleeps WAY longer.  Once until 9:45!  Hard to not turn that into a habit.  Does throw the whole day off though. 

    Hayley - Hope Daniel feels better.  We've got a cold here too.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 22, 2005, 21:48:31 pm
    Hi Girls.

    Killer day yesterday.  We went to get christmas pics taken with my 2 nephews (18 and 20 months) and then went to bro and SIL for dinner with the whole family and it was nuts!  2 boy toddlers running amuck screaming at the top of their lungs! 
    Taylor took it all in stride though even after taking 2 45 min. naps! :evil:   she hasn't taken 2 of them in months so I think it is time for a change in her routine :idea:  :?:  :idea:
    Anyhow, eventhough she was an angel all day, we paid for it last night in MULTIPLE wakings (lost count at 10).  So the stimulation combined with the runny nose cold/teething thing (wish I knew which one it was???), she was a mess!  and so am I.  Anyhow, nuff of that.  Today was our last day of Baby Dance class and got a phone list together with some other potential mommy friends so I can get some non-virtual friends!  Not like you are all not enough  :wink:

    Naomi-GOOD LUCK my dear friend at your first week.  You will do great and will probably really enjoy it. 

    Jody-have fun at the BW meet up

    Someone else was asking about defrosted BM and YES, it does smell different!  How weird you say that because I was just thinking the same thing yesterday and in fact threw a bag away because it didn't quite smell right eventhough only 2 months old.

    Traci-I am reading a book recommended here on this site called Baby Talk which teaches yuo about babies communication and how to make the most out of teaching them comm. skills.  And not to break your heart but mamamama is one of the first strings of constanants they learn to say.  soon he will be saying the harsher ones like babababab or dadadada.  it is them practicing, so eventhough he may not be directing it at you, he is doing something quite valuable :)  :wink:

    what else my friends?  hummmm....can't quite remember what else so will say ttfnmfl!

    Hannah-so is Friday night the new chat night?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Carter'sMama on November 22, 2005, 22:16:39 pm
    Hello everyone!  We've been out at the mall all day and there is lots here to catch up on!!  Carter routinely says dadadadada and DH is sure that he knows what it means (ya right!).  The only time he says anything that resembles mama is when he is full out crying and then it is more blubbery like mmmmaaaaammmmaaaaaa   :(   Oh well, we all know who he loves more!!!  :lol:

    My sympathy goes out to all of those who have sickies at home.  Carter had a stuffed up/snotty/runny nose for over 2 weeks!!  During that time he had night wakings, short naps, and was grumpy ALL day.  Luckily he maintained his appetite the whole time.  I just kept giving him tylenol, we put the vaporizer in his room and we elevated his mattress.  Thankfully when it was all said and done he went right back to his regular routine (except for some short naps  :cry: )

    Holly:  Do you find yourself getting drawn to the NASCAR races.  DH says he will make a fan out of me yet!! It was pretty exciting though because DH's company placed 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th out of only 5 drivers!!!

    Anyway, DH is on his way home so I'd better start dinner.  Making beef and broccoli stir fry tonight so I hope it turns out ok!!

    Oh ya, Fri pm is ok with me for the chat (even though I was only there once it was fun)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kq on November 23, 2005, 00:06:39 am
    Friday night chat/ Saturday would be fab!! TRACI, what does 9 pm est make it for us Kiwis? I have lost that link on time around the world you sent..
    Oh I almost forgot, we have a tooth!! I did not even notice he was teething.  :oops:  :D  Tooth number 2 looks like it is on its way.
    Kate, Ryan's leap pad ball looks great but I have never seen it sold here. What is it called again? Must look for it. Anyhow, bought Sam the fridge magnetic farm for Christmas.
    Hooray for Cole taking 3 oz via bottle.
    Naomi, I do asparagus just like Traci does but I skewer them so it makes turning them easier..like a kebab KWIM? Oh and good luck at work this next week!! Post a pic in your new do and garb.
    OMG Andrea, forgot till just now, BLACK baby clothes....awesome idea!! Just saying the other day how difficult it is to get black clothes for babes. My favourite colour(non-colour???) is black and if it was up to me, Sam would be dressed entirely in black.
    Hayley, when you are up here in Auckland, we should try and catch up. Text me if you get a chance while you are here. Where does your mum live? Did I give you my mobile number? I will PM you it.
    Hooray Holly! The man under the tree is Rip Van Winkle...I think.
    Just to say, what great sleepers we have despite the occasional glitch..a girlfriend of mine has 3 los. The los, her and dh sleep in the same room. She is on the floor with her 1 year old (feeding 3-4 times a night still!), the 2 older girls on the bed and dh on a futon!! :shock:  Thought I would share that so we know we are not doing badly at all.
    Karen
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 00:34:35 am
    not to take away from your venture Andrea, but I just wanted to share this with you guys...esp. you Karen after you mentioned dressing Sam in black.

    http://www.babesinblack.ca/

    also, Cole is for sure getting a pair of these for christmas.  Not necessarily the Cdn. flag pair, but I think they are awesome.  I was wondering how to keep his feet warm in the carrier.

    http://www.stonz.ca/products.html

    is it okay to post links to stuff here?  hope it is....
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 23, 2005, 00:42:41 am
    Hi, thanks Karen, got your mobile. I'll call you.

    Traci - yay for Cole, he's doing much better than Daniel ever did. Well done Traci.

    I'm fine for the chat on Friday 9pm EST. In NZ it's 3pm Saturday. I may not always be available, but I'll try.

    I took Daniel to the doc to make sure he didn't have an ear infection from his swimming. I wouldn't have worried so soon, but as we're flying on Friday I wanted to know now if there was any potential problems. He's fine, just a little red, hopefully the Ibuprofen the Dr's given us will help.

    Oh and remember when we were talking about things that make our LO's laugh... well I've discovered a new game. The medicine dropper I use has quite a wide hole at the bottom and when I gave him some medicine yesterday I accidently 'sucked' it on his tongue. You know, squeeze the end as if to release the medicine, then it automatically causes a suction back. WELL, Daniel thought this was fabulous. I did it again today and he was in hysterics. Makes giving medicine fun for him. I thought I better check it on my tongue to make sure it wasn't too strong, but it's fine, just a like a little tickle really. Very funny.

    Better go, laundry to be done.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 23, 2005, 00:45:09 am
    thansk a lot Traci!  now you are going to ruin everything!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 23, 2005, 00:45:09 am
    Hey Traci... those little booties are cool. They are in a store here locally... apparently they are based out of West Vancouver. Very cute!

    We bought Arwyn a pair of Robeez booties. They are just adorable on her little feet! Robeez is based out of Burnaby.

    Good thing I love shoes with all these baby shoe places based out of here ;)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 00:46:43 am
    me again, just had to share before i go make dinner.  this is my photo project that i worked on today.  I have had the frames since I was about 6 months preggers.  The foot shot is a bit blurry and the hand shot got cut off a bit with the cropping but all in all I'm pretty happy.  It will be hung at the top of our stairs in the upper hallway :D

    (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/photoframesa.jpg)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 23, 2005, 01:20:27 am
    Cute pic's Traci

    I have two sets of robeez that sophie wears here all the time - they help her get a grip on the tile floor when she spins and schooches.

    Hayley - Sophie LOVES this as well, isn't that funny, I was reading your post thinking OMG - that is weird.  She giggles now even before I have the dropper in her mouth!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: mickymuscles on November 23, 2005, 01:23:07 am
    totally cute traci!!

    Jody:  What time are you meeting up at??  I've got music with Jack at 12-1pmish.  If it works for us I'd love to come join up with you all!  :D  :oops:   Excuse me inviting myself!! :shock:  :oops:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: B&BMommy on November 23, 2005, 02:39:54 am
    Jody...Robert Munch huh, gonna go get one of those books, we have so many right now for Brady, I started building his library early....but no Robert Munch, how could I have forgotton...., funny you told me about Boiron Coryzalia, I actually picked some up today while I was out. I wanted to take the homeopathic route as well. It was actually the only one I could find for babies....so I got it. Glad to hear it works well though.  Sorry you're having some troubled nites with Maisie, do you find the orjel works??? Brady hates it, I try and try, only to have him look at me and cry like I'm the worst mommy in the world for putting this stuff in his mouth...do the girls like it???

    Kate - yes, 5 hours in a row, what to do with the sleep...lol....I can only hope it gets better, but hey better than I've ever had!!!

    Hayley, sorry about Daniel being sick, we have the cold here too.
    As for things that make Brady laugh, he loves when we blow raspberries on his bare tummy, he loves to put his fingers in my mouth when he's feeding, makes him laugh when I close my mouth...he laughs hysterically (spelling :?: ) when we play peek a boo, there are a few more....really for a baby who doesn't get any sleep, he does laugh a lot, very good disposition....go figure , minus the fact that he has a cold right now, not doing too much laughing right at this moment,  :(

    Traci - Just LOVE the pictures, they are sooo great...professional looking, great job!  Brady has just started saying Mama, the last week or so too. I don't know if he knows its me or not, but he's saying it, and I love it...lol
    He's also playing peek a boo great, understands the game well, and has a ball playing it...makes him laugh so much....I could do it all day with him....

    Cathy - yes I'm being drawn into NASCAR here too, lol, so is Brady apparently....We don't seem to have a choice...lol   Great for your DH's company placing so well.

    Karen - wow, your friend sure has her hands full :shock:


    Well, off for now
    Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: james030405 on November 23, 2005, 02:49:43 am
    Hi everyone, I might try and get on the chat as well, would that make it 12pm Saturday?  James has his first Christmas party to go to on Saturday at his swimming school.  My  DH and I are going to see Oasis and relive our youth on SAturday night. :P

    I will have a look and see if there is a decent photo of me - I am not the most photogenic person! 

    Great work Traci on Cole taking the bottle. I am working on James taking milk from a sippy cup.  I changed our routine slightly today and he took about half of his milk with his breakfast and lunch today.  He also went down at 9am woke at 9:30am but managedwiht PU/PD to get him back to sleep till 10:30.  YAY. :lol: We are hoping for a 1:30pm afternoon nap. 

    Chat soon

    Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kate585 on November 23, 2005, 03:53:09 am
    So good to see you, Lisa!  The hot mom tradition continues!   :wink:

    Just wanted to suggest starting a new thread...last time we did it at pg. 100.  Nikki? Andrea?  Get crackin' super mod!   :D   

    Off to bed then a day of packing and driving.  Ugggh!  Luckily, my mom has a computer so I'll be able to check in.  How would you ever survive without me for 4 days?   :lol:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 23, 2005, 04:58:19 am
    Kate-please check in because we would miss you and cutie Ryan!

    Shall I start a new thread ladies?  let me know and I will start one tomorrow!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 23, 2005, 12:57:02 pm
    I was thinking today that I would like to send you some christmas cards, but for that I need addresses, could you all pm me your mailing addresses. I'd thought of what traci was doing and I figured it would be a nice way to round the year off to send out cards to my new friends.
    Thanks in advance girls.....that means you too aussie and nz mums.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 14:40:34 pm
    naomi-i hate to say DUH....but I am creating the list for everyone and then emailing it back to everyone that wants to participate.  kapeesh?  :wink:

    Everyone-please send your mailing address (for cards) and email address (for list) no later than November 26th.  That should give everyone time to do their cards :D
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 14:44:52 pm
    oh-and who was mentioning that their lo found the springy door stop thingie?  please be careful because on ours the white plastic thing on the end comes off.  As a result I've removed all of those "fun" things from areas where Cole hangs out.

    also...beware of cold air return vents...on ours the underside/bottom of the vent things is sharp.  Cole has cut himself twice on it.  Going to home depot this weekend to see if they have something safer.  better go, he's chewing on an electrical cord :oops: good thing no teeth :shock:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 23, 2005, 15:05:00 pm
    yup it is a duh traci, I am feeling a little under the weather today, I have a cold that has shown itself but won't do anymore, so it is not totally crappy but it is not great either.
    Thanks for the wake up hun..lol
    Riley still hasn't gotten the crawling thing, but she did wake herself up last night as she was on all fours, rocking away, and fell a few time and hit her head on the rails of the crib. The first couple of times she was asleep, but the third she woke herself up.
    k...I am back of to lala land for now.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 15:27:45 pm
    That was me Traci about the door stop thingy.  Thanks.  I never would have thought of that.
    Address and email coming your way.  Thanks for doing that.
    Friday night sounds like it works for most people for a new chat night?
    Is there anyone who it DOESN'T work for, who still wants to chat on Sunday?  If so, we won't change it....does that make sense?
    Gotta go clean up spit up :)
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 23, 2005, 15:32:57 pm
    friday works for me, then I can chat later and dh can watch the kids in the am while I sleep in...lol.
    That and also more of the aussie and kiwi mums can join us hopefully.
    Would it still be at the usual chat time here tho?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 15:35:32 pm
    That's what I was thinking Naomi, same time, different day.
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: B&BMommy on November 23, 2005, 15:55:45 pm
    Traci, sending information your way for the mailing/email lists

    As for the chat, Friday is good for me as well. 

    Hopefully this weekend I'll get DH or someone to take a pic of Brady and I so I can post it on here. I just don't have a recent one of us. Love all the pics of everyone....nice to put a face with a name.

    Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: mickymuscles on November 23, 2005, 16:23:09 pm
    hi girls,

    I haven't posted much lately....but I should be back in full swing now that DH is gone back to work.   :(   Mixed emotions about it.....happpy to be able to chat with you all but very sad about DH being gone  :(  :shock:   He's gone now until x-mas...not sure if I'll get to see him until the new year tho as Jack and I are leaving on the 21st to California.

    Friday works for me too.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: kate585 on November 23, 2005, 16:23:34 pm
    See...I'm back already!   :oops:
    Real quick, I got some one piece door stops from the One Step Ahead catalog.  Our were so old we didn't even have the rubber part and they were rusty metal.  You never notice these things when house shopping, huh?   :)   
    Anyway, they were pretty cheap and all one piece so nothing will pop off.  Here's a link:
    http://www.onestepahead.com/product/86198/331/117.html

    Really must go finish packing and baking.  Bye, girls!!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 23, 2005, 16:45:42 pm
    http://www.onestepahead.com/product/85202/160/117.html

    http://www.onestepahead.com/product/85200/322762/117.html

    Kate-glad you mentioned One Step Ahead because it reminded me:
    yesterday in my baby dance class a lo 4 days older than Taylor was having a ball teething on this clear plastic thing???  So I asked his mom and she said it was his toothbrush from one step ahead.  I am going to order one right away.

    Also, we have the star teether as well and it is awesome.  It buzzes but unlike a lot of other teethers out there that they have to bite down on really hard to buzz, this is very easy.

    Enjoy!

    BTW, last night I tried the olive oil on Taylor's cradle cap.  Added a little salt and pepper, a clove of garlic and it worked marvelously!  Thanks for those of you that recommended it!   :D
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: B&BMommy on November 23, 2005, 16:57:04 pm
    Hi Andrea, the plastic tooth brush  works great. We have one for Brady, there is a store near me that sells them as well. And he just loves chewing away on it...I highly recommend it.


    Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 17:14:18 pm
    LOL about the salt and pepper and garlic. Yum!

    I love that little toothbrush.  I'll have to order one. 
    I just sent these pics to my mom with the subject line: "Good Hygiene starts early" :)
    I Love the framed pics Traci....excellent work.  I hope your business idea has something to do with your creative picture framing type stuff becasue I could really use some help! :)
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 17:22:50 pm
    kate-thanks for the link for the doorstops!

    hannah-so totally cute.  I've got to buy a darn tub plug then cole can finally start having more fun in the bath.  he's still all squished into his baby tub :cry:

    I have just pm'd a bunch of people for mail/email addresses.  I realize some people may not wish to participate and that is fine.  Just wanted to make sure everyone was aware.  I apologize in advance for the curt manner of the emails...there were quite a few to do.  I've received about 10 so far.  YAY! I hope people don't mind me giving out their email addresses???  I was putting them on the sheet as well.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 23, 2005, 17:49:31 pm
    Hello, hello... falling behind as my schedule is now crazy due to pumping as well as feeding :shock: .

    7 am BF
    8 am Solids
    9 am Pump
    AWAKE TIME
    11 am Milk/Bottle/Power Struggle
    12 pm Solids
    1 pm Pump
    ARE YOU GUYS TIRED YET?
    3 pm Milk/Bottle/Battle of Wills
    Whew... a little break
    5 pm Solids
    6:30 BF

    Boy, I knew our society was based around eating for socializing but I didn't know it started so early!  :wink:

    We just had a 30 minute nap and she woke up happy as a clam, chatting to herself and moving about until she got stuck!

    Kate... have a great trip!

    Richelle... when do you leave again?

    Hannah... cute "hygiene" pics!!

    Traci... I love the wonderful art you created from those pics!

    Micky... {{{{HUGS}}} I don't know how you do it with DH being away. I do hope you get a chance to see him over the holidays!

    Holly... glad the nights are getting better!

    Andrea... did the yummy marinade work on Taylor?

    Naomi... must send pics of you on the first day at work! Looking forward to seeing your new do and clothes!

    Sorry to anybody I missed... did these from memory and it isn't what it used to be!!

    Chat on Friday is fine with me! (Boy, have things changed from my former Friday night activities :!: )
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: solnme on November 23, 2005, 17:51:09 pm
    It's so crazy you guys are talking about dental hygiene!!  There was a dental health nurse at school last night and she put the fear of god into everyone regarding brushing your lo's teeth. 
    She said 26% of children's teeth will rot out before they are 5 years old in North America regardless of demographics. It's a combination of the foods/liquids we give and not taking care of their teeth.  Even with 2 baby teeth they recommend brushing twice a day with floride toothpast.  :shock:
    I was just using his washcloth every morning.  Anyone else brushing?

    Poor Sol had the hardest day yesterday.  4 shots at the doctors AND he took a tumble and smacked his eye on my friends coffee table. :cry:  I thought he'd have this huge black eye cause it started swelling instantly.  It looks ok now but he kinda looked like Rocky.  8) Wouldn't let me out of his sight all day.

    Traci - love, love, LOVED the pics.  That's something that looks great in your house and could make a great gift

    Cathy - Here it's football (Grey Cup) and Hockey with a little Nascar during the commercials.  People used to hate watching hockey with me cause i'd always complain the ice was too bright!  I prefer the soccer pitch but I've learned to keep my mouth shut. 

    I love all the business ideas!  Most of my and DH family our entrepreneurs.  I ran two summer programs for kids before DS came along.  Now I have to change course so I'm going to try and open a Childcare Facility and still run the camps in the summer.  I may be kiddin myself but aim high, right!

    Check out my site if you have time http://www.ukkina.com

    Holy long...sorry
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 23, 2005, 17:57:26 pm
    Roz, I just remembered you are another one we haven't seen a pic of.
    Girls I will definitly put a pic up of me dolled up for work. Getting a little nervous. I have gone out and treated myself to new clothes, I had to really, too many years of wearing a uniform left me without dress clothes.
    Just a quick thought, would you girls mind if my "nanny" put some posts on here, I metioned it to her the other day incase she has some questions about Riley's routine.
    K...that is my allotment for now.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 17:59:16 pm
    Ankie, do you have a "Hands free" pumping dealee??
    I don't but I usually manage to pump with one hand at least...leaving one free for a little typing, turning pages of a book...or what have you.
    Anyhow, you are a teacher...you know the magic word...Multi task! :)
    Good luck.

    Roz...hugs to sol. Poor little guy.  My word on the teeth brushing thing!!!  Geez, I thought I was doing good because I had given her the toothbrush to play with on occasion.  I can't believe they reccommend toothpaste for los!  Anyhow, I am hoping she got dh's teeth....no cavities...never sees a dentist.  We won't even talk about my dental issues!

    TTFN
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 18:01:31 pm
    BTW,
    ANkie---LOL at the schedule.
    Naomi, it's fine with me for "nanny" to post :)  She'll have to post a pic too tho!  :wink:
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: solnme on November 23, 2005, 18:02:40 pm
    I know about the picture!  I've been nagging DH to fix our photoshop so I can get Sol and me up there.  I feel so mysterious   

     No prob with the nanny.  You'll have to give her a code word so we know it's her posting.  :)
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 23, 2005, 19:15:08 pm
    haha girls, thanks for the help with the nanny...I think it has become a prerequisite (sp???) for people to post on here that they have to put a pic up...oh boy! I think she will be quite addicted to this thread. She knows how much fun we have so she is excited to "meet" you girls.
    I will let her know to tell you girls it is her when she posts.
    k....finally I have time to spend with Jay now that Riley is in bed, so far today she like to have a 3hr A time and 1/2 S time, we are on our second nap now, so I have everything crossed hoping she makes it to the 1hr mark.
    Just wondering who is chatting tonight??? I will try to make it, but right now I am tempted to knock my butt out with nyquil and crash to get rid of whatever the heck I have.
    I had to add this too, I think I have in the least fractured my left pinky toe today, just to make the whole day perfect eh! (where is that sarcasm emoticon when you need it). Iwas getting up after getting Riley settled this morning and we have one of those fisher price infant to toddler rockers, well the support stand was out and I smashed my toe on it as I got up.
    Oh, I want to post some pics of Jay later for you ladies, just to show you all how much fun it can be as they grow up.
    Right, I think I have hit the allotment for a post for now...TaTa
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 19:24:33 pm
    I am going to try to make it Naomi...I missed Sunday, and I need a fix!  Can you tell? I've posted like four times already today and it's only 11:30am!
    hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 23, 2005, 19:29:57 pm
    haha hannah, we posted at the same time...what am I going to do without you ladies next week, I guess part of my homework will be to catch up on what has been going on. Hannah you were missed on sunday, but at least you have tonite and then on friday again!!
    Are we starting the new chat time/day this week?
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 23, 2005, 20:44:31 pm
    Sorry, no time to catch up girls. DH is on his way home from work and then we're packing up the car and headed to the ILs. Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving...those of you in the US anyway. I know Canada has already celebrated...I'm not sure about everyone else. Sorry, I'm not very culturally aware! LOL

    Anyway, hope you all have a good week and a great weekend, whatever you're doing!

    Nancy
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 21:04:30 pm
    I will try to make the chat...but to be honest I'd rather chat Friday as I find it more fun with just you ladies.  shhhhh, don't tell anyone. wednesdays it's hard to follow as I don't know the ins and outs of everyone's story.  I figure I should only chat once a week.  I've got a lot going on right now and I'm pretty pooped by the end of the day, shouldn't really be up late two nights a week.  And this is me talking, not DH.  He'd let me chat every night if that's what I wanted.

    okay, off to do those many things...

    btw-i feel like I've fallen behind...i can only read and respond to a few posts now it seems.  but it was me who said not to feel bad about not responding and playing "catch up" so I'll try not to feel bad :oops:

    I'll say Happy Turkey weekend now for those that are travelling.  Have a great time with family and friends :D
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 23, 2005, 22:20:51 pm
    Happy Thanksgiving to the US of A-ers!!

    Roz... are you a teacher? I looked back at your intro but you didn't say... truly the mystery woman, eh? Your website looks interesting! Sounds like a great program... no wonder you didn't notice you were preggers until 4 months. Summers must be very busy for you!

    Hannah... yup, multi-task is not my middle name, it is my FIRST! I don't have a hands-free model... it is manual. I am looking at buying the new ISIS IQ DUO that just came out. It is the same Avent one I have except it is electric... pricey but I figure the price of formula would work out to the same over the long run.

    Okay... question about bottles... Arwyn is the winner of all the bouts of trying a bottle. Last night at dinner, I managed to squeeze 2 oz. into her but only by making her thirsty with Cheerios first  :lol: . This morning at the 11 am bottle fight, she took 1 oz over 45 minutes.

    My question is... how much is the average bottle? I have to throw out the remaining 3 oz. now because I made a 4 oz bottle but shouldn't she finish that much per bottle?? So confused... I have a need for clear, calibrated breasts so I can see how much she usually takes and match her needs. (neurotic or what?)

    Anyhow... gotta run... pat/shush required. BTW, Friday chat or ??
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: sophieandhannah on November 23, 2005, 22:30:16 pm
    I say YES! Friday chat!  Although funny, now that I think about it dh has no hockey this friday becasue of the thanksgiving weekend...that's ok, he can just hang out with his little tiny girlfriend :)

    I totally understand Traci!  As you can see from today, I am really good at doing a whole lot of nothing but being on the computer...not a bad idea to limit the chats etc. 

    Ankie, electric is where it's at!  And OMG!!! The price of formula :shock: It's OC (out of control!) So, yes the pumps is worth it.  Do you have Craig's list up there? You might want to try it or even ebay for a used one if that's not too creepy for you...of course all of the improtant parts should be new :)

    I totally hear you about the calibrated boobs :)  The few (VERY few) times that Sophie did latch, I always wondered how much if any she really got.

    I am still struggling with how much to offer in a bottle, I am seeing her eat anywhere from 5-8oz, but most often right around 5.

    So really 1-2 is a great start!

    HTH.
    See you tonight or Friday!
    Hannah
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: becca24 on November 23, 2005, 22:57:53 pm
    Hi Everyone,

    I have read all the posts but I don't have time to comment on them all - so don't think I don't care OK  :wink: I feel like you girls really are my friends especially since we have been sending all the pics KWIM?

    We are off to swimming lessons today then I have to take my aunty into town (she hates driving in town :roll: ) so I wouldn't be able to chat today. As for the friday night chat, that is saturday here so I could probably only make it sometimes. It is summer here and we are planning to be away surfing and camping every chance we can get. I usually check on here every day so if anyone wants to chat any other time just let me know.

    Whoever asked- we don't have thanksgiving down here. Maybe it will catch on one day. Halloween has started to, we had a couple of kids come here and say 'trick or treat' and dh goes 'what's that mean??" I said 'give them some tim tams'  the DH practically yells 'HERE YOU GO NOW RACK OFF' :lol:  :lol: then they ran away screaming it was sooooooooo funny.  :lol:  :lol:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 23, 2005, 23:41:51 pm
    okay, i just have to come on here and vent.  My great settler has turned not so great the last couple of nights.  Of course, it's all my fault...but he should catch on that mom will make mistakes, right? :wink:

    Yesterday we had 3 great naps (1:15, 1:00, 1:00) and I let the catnap run too late.  I have let it run late in the past and Cole has gone down fine. However, I think those days he had short naps. The three good naps combined with a catnap waking at 5pm did not make for a smooth bedtime at 6pm.  He finally settled close to 7pm.

    Of course with him way overtired he woke more often, including 4:50 AM for the day.  YEP.  I tried feeding, even tried taking him to bed with me.  NOPE, wide awake.  Today we had 1:15, 45 and 45 naps, catnap ending at 4:15.  It was all I could do to keep him awake to give him dinner and BF.  He seemed to settle fine at 5:15...then the screaming started.  I go in and he calms right away and this is where I pose my question.

    What on earth do you do when they calm immediately and want you to play?  He did this both nights...last night because he wasn't tired enough and tonight because he was overtired and on overdrive!

    So I end up leaving, letting him cry a few minutes then returning to do pupd. It is just silly.  I'd much rather him just cry and let me do pupd.  In and out, pupd, in and out, pupd.  sheesh!

    okay, thanks for the vent.

    I just checked an email newletter and they have this item on it...from OneStepAhead.  So cool!

    http://www.onestepahead.com/product/86183/17/117.html
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 24, 2005, 00:41:30 am
    Hannah... yes we have craigslist up here and I missed a fantastic deal on a Pump in Style for $100!!! ya snooze, ya lose over here FAST! Items that are hot sell extremely quickly on craigslist here... BUT, the duds that nobody wants just gets relisted, again and again :roll: . BTW, I love the "little tiny girlfriend" and every time I read it, I read it "teeny tiny girlfriend"... you know, like the traditional tale... the "Teeny Tiny Woman"?

    Friday night chat is good for me too. As usual, I will be late because Arwyn goes down between 6 and 7 pm.

    Traci... UGH! Don't you hate it when you miss the window??? So frustrating. Don't worry, your great settler will be back. It took me a while to figure out that Arwyn can stay awake longer between naps #1 and 2 but not before bed, etc. She has all these awake time quirks :roll: and I am just trying to keep up. Cole will be back to normal before you know it.

    Bec... Summer!! I'm looking forward to it already!

    TTFN ladies.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 24, 2005, 01:28:06 am
    Hi everyone

    Another not so good night here, but better than the previous. I actually tried to bring Daniel to bed with me in the early hours (about 4am) but it was hopeless. I couldn't sleep, he was pretty restless so after about an hour I gave him his first morning bottle then put him back in his cot! Then when he woke again at 6am I tried again with some toys thinking he could play while I snoozed. Well, after 5 mins we both fell asleep until DH woke us at 7.40am. Yay, finally a good length of sleep. Daniel's cold is worse except he's still happy. Meanwhile all I can think about is will he be okay to fly. So off to the chemist I went, got more drugs, this time a nasal decongestant. I know he's only little and I don't want to pump him full of drugs, but if it helps him sleep and feel better I'm gonna do it. Also I really want us to be able to go away tomorrow and I don't want to put him in pain. So hopefully this will work.

    The stuff you guys can buy overseas is great. I just wish there were websites with a variety of baby products here to. I think to have anything sent over would be too expensive.

    Well, it's not that I don't want to chat, but I'm tired and need to have a rest while Daniel is.

    Bye for now....
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Richelle on November 24, 2005, 02:36:04 am
    Hello Lovelies,


    A chat on Friday's is as good as any for me as i am so so so soooon be a SAHM!!  I am so excited but it will be awhiole before Sophie and I get a chance to chill together and really get into a groove.  I can't wait to hang exclusively with my teeny tiny girlfriend !!  :lol:  :lol: 9 I hope I am not eating my words in a few months :oops: )

    Ankie - How is Arwyn's sleeping going?  I have an instyle pump that has been sitting here collecting dust for 3 months :oops: .  I am going to save it for my next babies - that's right plural  :lol:  but in the interm it is too bad I am not close enough to loan it to you.  Sophie has a 6oz bottle 4x a day and weighs 21lbs if that is a good point of reference for you.  I was told that you should always offer a bit more than you think they will eat when starting with a botlle I can't remember why but I am sure it was a good reason..

    I leave in one week exactly and I have the IL's flying in tomorrow and staying with us for the next 4 days, I think I will make them help me pack up the house :wink: !  I am also cooking a turkey dinner tomorrow - don't ask me why - they are english (no thanksgiving) I'm Canadian...and tomorrow?  Like my DH says I'm a nutter...

    Traci - How cool are those extenders!  Sophie is busting out of her 6-9 month onesies already  :shock:  We are starting to call her the bruiser!

    Hannah I am at work  :oops:  and my comp here won't load pic's, I'll have to check when I get home but am sure they are cute cute cute!

    Andrea - I really had a good chuckle re: Taylor made marinade - you should bottle it and sell it!

    Naomi - very excited for you and your new adventure - especially if  it involves a new wardrobe - lucky girl, can't wait to see pic's!!

    Becc - ROTFLMAO at your DH - sounds just like mine!

    Hayley - I really hope that Daniel feel's better especially for  the flight.  I hate flying stuffed up.  How long is the flight?  I am dreading traveling alone with Sophie again, eventhough everytime I have she has been soo good, but then she just used to sleep I am not sure how I am going to keep her occupied for these flights!

    Roz - How cool are those camps!!  Really very interesting and such a GOOD idea!

    Anywho let me run one of my 'web/business' ideas past you ladies.  History - I love to paint and it has been a hobby of mine for as long as I can remember.   

    The idea is functional nursery art.  ment to be visually stimulating for infants while providing style and function in a nusery.

    Now I paint for function mostly ie; to decorate our rental apartments ect... but of course did some stuff for Sophie's room b/c I couldn't paint the walls.  I ended up doing a bunch of animals (noah's arc but funky) and some contrast work and she loves it.  Stares at it still for ages, used to calm her when she was fussy even. 

    I did a couple for a friend of mine as a gift(purple and red flowers on alternating yellow and light blue squares / pink and white circles on alternating green triangles) and she said the same thing about her dd loving them and would stare for extended periods of time but they were also funky and decorative.  She said I could definately sell them so I have started to think about it and maybe i will get a collection started.  Any thoughts, would you ladies think cool or not so cool?

    Ok - i need to wrap up this is the longest post EVER!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 24, 2005, 03:11:37 am
    Richelle-your artwork sounds awesome!  Something you can do from home AND make money.  And totally doable to sell over the net.  I think it's perfect.  Could you take a pic of one or two and post?  I'm very curious.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 24, 2005, 03:54:22 am
    Yes Richelle, very cool!!  Would also love to see a pic.

    Hi to everyone

    Keeping it short today - we have been working very hard to help Fraser sleep a bit better and it seems to be paying off - last night was a vast improvement (still a ways to go but we'll get there).  I think the crux of the problem was a constantly overtired little guy who's A times are very sensitive - miss the window and not only does it throw out that nap time but the rest of the day and night as well.  A never ending cycle.  But he'll get there, we'll get there and yes (repeat after me) "this too shall pass".

    Hugs friends
    Jo
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: M&M'sMom on November 24, 2005, 04:09:51 am
    Jo- "This too shall pass....." congrats on some light at the end of the tunnel... don't the littlest improvements give you the most hope? I think so...

    Traci- The pictures are absolutely beautiful... what an amazing piece of art and history!  What kind of camera did you use? Was it blk and wht film?

    Micky- we met today @ noon... sorry! Sharon (momtoellarose) and I perused the mall for 1 1/2 hours... stopping of course for a Tim Hortons on the way... I forgot the camera, but Sharon remembered so I am sure she will post the pics when she gets back to Vancouver...

    Holly- Robert Munch.. ann absolute classic don't you agree??!! On the teething thing, orajel really works instantly for the girls, but like any topical anesthetic (sp?) it lasts only minutes... I think it last just long enough for the camilia to set in... and if all else fails and the screaming continues past 5 mins ( a VERY long 5 mins) then in goes the tylenol!

    anyone who cares :lol: Well Maisie went from 7pm-5am last night, a bit more like her old self... so maybe the 3 teeth that have broke through are finally going to stop bugging her. It still is a bit of an ordeal at 5 am to get her back to sleep.. a 2oz bottle and back to her crib, then she talks for about 15 mins.... drive me BONKERS! Today they (after Maisie's 5 am wake, Maky slept through like usual) slept until 745am and I had to wake them because they were screwing up our day and we had to be at the mall at noon for my BW meet-up! Always when there is something going on during the day do they decide to sleep in, or take a short nap.... crazy babies...

    I am so sorry this is so long, going to bed now... have a good night my friends,

    jod
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 24, 2005, 04:19:55 am
    Jody! I care that Maisie slept through!!! Gives me hope for Arwyn... it has been a long 7 weeks.

    Jo... hope it is all starting to look up. I know that Arwyn's A time is also sensitive... 15 minutes the wrong way on a bad day is just horrendous!

    Holly... I have tonnes of Robert Munsch... never thought to read it to Arwyn yet though... maybe I will start!

    Richelle... I know I told you in the chat but I think you should run with your idea. Sounds great!

    See you all... gonna have some "me" time.... oh... right... that 90 minutes in the chat room WAS "me" time. :roll:  Traci... maybe I should limit myself to one chat a week too!  :wink: DH's course is finished next week so he'll know just how much time I spend on here at night when he is not around!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 24, 2005, 06:52:27 am
    Richelle - great idea. I wish I was creative enough to do something like that. What a great 'gift' to have.

    Traci - I meant to say before, I loooove the photos. I've tried numerous times to take photos of Daniel's feet, but they never work. Those are great. You've inspired me to try again, even though he's bigger now, soon his 'now' feet will be considered little.

    Jody - great news on the sleep. It must be so much harder with twins waking each other up.

    Ankie - hang in there, it will happen.

    Me? Well, now I'm feeling like cr@pola and don't think I should be flying tomorrow. Daniel's doing okay, I think the drugs are helping, his nose wasn't quite so runny thisafternoon (TMI) so here's hoping for a better night. Unfortunately now I'm all blocked up so don't think I should fly. There's another flight on Sunday night, so I'll probably go for that instead. Unless I make a miraculous recovery overnight. Mum & dad will be so disappointed, but hopefully I'll still make it for a few days.

    Well, I better go curl up on the couch or in bed and rest while I can. Who knows what tonight will bring.

    Oh and to everyone who has lived with multiple frequent night wakings I don't know how you keep going. I haven't got enough hats to take off for you!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 24, 2005, 11:50:24 am
    Hello girls. Thanks for the compliments on the pics.  Jody-it was my Nikon digital camera I took the pics with.  It has a black and white option.  I have since learned though that you can make any pic black and white with photo software.  I'm asking for Adobe Photoshop Elements 4 for christmas.  Not sure I'll need all the bells and whistles it has, but why not?  It's so cool...you can click on something called "pencil drawing" and it turns your photo into....a pencil drawing!   :lol:

    Well-we had a rough night.  My hat is off to Ankie, Holly and Jo.  I am pooped.  Down at 5:15, didn't settle until 6 (yes, he was tired enough to go down at 5:15!) Woke at 8:00 (after door-bell and phone rang in quick succession), back down in 5 min, woke at 8:40, back down in 10 min.  Woke at 12:15 to feed.  Woke at 3:30 and was up until 5:00!!!  Haven't had one of those in a while.  Just wasn't tired.  Wouldn't sleep on futon with me, wouldn't sleep with him in crib and me on floor.  Finally gave him tylenol just in case and about 15 min. later he conked out on my shoulder.  Then he only slept until 5:50.  Of course, today DH had to leave the house by 6:00 to go to the dentist on the other side of the city (silly I know-but we really like my dentist from the city where i grew up) so he was up by 5:20.  So I've had a whopping 20 minutes or so sleep since 3:30.  First big snowfall of the year today so it's officially pyjama day for Cole and I :P

    Oh yes, forgot to mention, the last couple of nights Cole has only taken one boob for his night feed (10pm feed).  He just won't take the other and I don't want to wrestle with him and wake him up too much.  Do you think it's time to wean this feed then?  That's why I fed him at 3:30, because he only took one side at midnight and I thought he might be hungry. Just when I get a semi-decent routine going he goes a throws a wrench in it!

    JO and Jody-congrats on the improved sleeps!

    Hayley- I so hope you feel well enough to take you trip. 

    okay-breakfast time for Cole.  No more zucchini-started that tuesday and I'm wondering if that's the cause of some issues???
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Carter'sMama on November 24, 2005, 12:50:37 pm
    Oh man, I just had 5 pages of posts to catch up on!!!  Well we got our first snow "storm" in WIndsor yesterday.  To Windsorites, 2cm is a snow storm!!!!!  Anyway, of course it was the day that we were heading to the GTA for a mini holiday (DH has thurs and Fri off due to U.S Thanksgiving).  So, the regular 3 hour drive turned into 4 hours because of the snow and all the accidents on the 401.  We were going to leave at like 7:00 so Carter would sleep (cause it is his bedtime) but we left at catnap time instead due to the weather.  As a result he slept for 1hr30min and cried the rest of the way  :(   There is nothing like being stuck in traffic with a screaming baby!!!  Then when we arrived at my brothers Carter wouldn't go to sleep.  Finally got him down at 10:00, he woke up at 12:00 but resettled after 10mins and then was up for the day at 6:00 which is an hour earlier than usual.  So, I guess that's how the next few days are going to be!!!

    Did I read something about intro's and pics of everyone?  Where are these?  It would be great to see all the pics of you ladies!  I have seen a few that were recently posted.  It always amazes me how different people look from the way I picture them!  I'm just bad at that I guess!

    Anyway, it's breakfast time for Carcheezy and then we have to pack and head to my parents (another hour away).  Hopefully that will be his morning nap.  I am going to try and stop at my old vet clinic (where I used to work before the move to Windsor) and see if I can do some large animal calls!!  I miss wrestling with cows and horses!!!  Have a good few days everyone, don't know when I will be able to get back on!!

    Traci:  I will send you my address pronto!!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Jayri on November 24, 2005, 14:51:41 pm
    Hi cathy..good to know you are okay after that drive on the 401. There are pics on the first march/april thread. It is locked now, but I think you can still see the pics on there. Also there is a "sticky" in the photo gallery called "what do you all look like". There are pics of some of us but also some of the other mums on here too.
    So what about you pic...lol.
    Oh and I believe that there are introductions of people on the first few pages on this thread too...HTH
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: mickymuscles on November 24, 2005, 16:38:43 pm
    hi girls!!

    Richelle: I love the idea.  I totally think it would be a hit.  I would love to see some pics if you can post??  I might get some for my next babe!! :D

    Jody: No worries!!  I chatted with Michelle and she let me know when you were meeting but unfortunately it didn't fit in with Jack's music class.  I hope next time I'll be able to squeeze in some adult interaction! :)  I'm always game for a coffee break! :wink:

    DH and I are reno-ing our kitchen.  We are getting new countertops.  The counter guys came last night at 7:30 pm....right at Jack's bedtime.  Luckily one of my girlfriends showed up for our Wed. night "America's Next Top Model" date.  She did me a huge favor of getting Jack dressed after his bath and then she tried to put him to bed for me...  He was soooo confused!!!  He was screaming his head off because she wasn't following the routine (but she didn't know).  She had got him dressed and then just plopped him in his crib, had the lights still on, was patting his belly and talking to him to try and get him to calm down......all of which just gets him more amped up.  I gotta give her an A+ for trying and helping me tho.  Finally the counter guys finished just before 8pm and I was able to go in and get Jack settled rather quick since he was exhausted!!! :shock:   Poor guy....thankfully he slept ok even tho he was totally overtired by the time he got to bed.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 24, 2005, 23:42:22 pm
    Hey Girls,

    Was experiencing major cabin fever here after staying inside through two relatively cold days.  Headed out for a short while and picked up some  paint chips.  Going to paint our remaining three rooms.  Main bath, master bedroom and "great room/laundry/workout room" in the basement.  Of course those will get done then it will be time to start on the rest of the house which has been done for a few years now.  I find the colours too dark now and want to freshen things up.  For those of you that own your home, do you find yourself constantly thinking of things to be done?  It's driving me crazy.  We had to combine a spare room/office when we did the nursery and now it's just crammed.  We don't have a dining room table, well, we do, but I'm sitting at it right now as it's where the PC is. (convenient while DH did all his studying in the office).  It's an old 70's style laminate table. Anyhoo, I'm trying to figure out the best solution to our space problems.  I'm thinking of doing a wall to wall built in unit in the dining room which would have a small area in the middle for the PC that would be behind doors.   It would also store all of our files, books etc to free up the spare room to be only that.  Of course, within a year or so it would be Cole's or #2s room anyhow.  We never sit at a table to eat, but I suppose we should have something to sit at when we have our friends over.  Seeing all the christmas specials on entertaining has really motivated me to get this house in order.  I would LOVE to have two couples over for a fondue party.  So fun!  okay, i just needed to get that out.  I am always running things through my head that need doing, that's all.

    As for my lo, he fought catnap like crazy today.  It's not like he couldn't have been tired.  I put him down after 2.75 A.  Got him up when he didn't settle, tried again after about 10 minutes.  At 4:10 he'd been up 3.5 hours, didn't know why he wasn't settling...fed him to sleep and he slept in my lap :oops:   Oh well.  I have to admit it was nice cuddling with him.  I know I will miss that a lot when I can't do it anymore.

    For bed it was the same.  I'd leave the room, give him time to settle and he wouldn't.  Tried pupd.  I only did this twice, unlike last night when it went on and on.  When he didn't settle I got him up and we went to go stare out the window at the snow blowing around.  I talked to him in a soft voice telling him how much i loved him and that when he goes to sleep I'm always here when he wakes up.  I gave him a kiss and he gave me the cutest little smile :)   I went back to his room, sat in the glider for a minute.  Then I laid him in the crib and did something I haven't done in ages...I stayed with him.  I just left my hand on his hip (he on his side) and he was asleep in minutes.  PHEW.  so, only 15 minutes to go down tonight instead of our hour long battle yesterday.

    Slow on the thread today. Guess many are off enjoying turkey day.  What I wouldn't do for a homemade turkey dinner right now.  YUM!  Speaking of which, I'd better go and round up dinner.  Didn't get my late afternoon snack since Smuggies was sleeping in my lap.
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Carter'sMama on November 25, 2005, 00:22:51 am
    The weather here is crazy!!  Both my dad and DH's dad are stuck on the highway somewhere going 20 km/h because the roads are so bad.  We are meeting for dinner at my parents house and dinner is ready and there are no people.  At this rate dinner will be at 8:30 and my parents only have a 2 bedroom condo.  Poor Carter will not be able to sleep due to noise level and everyone will want to see him anyway.  DH is bathing him right now and I can tell he is already overtired  :?   Gotta love travelling  .... always messes up your perfect routine!!! 

    Ok that was my little vent!  I did get Carter to take a catnap in his playpen which I couldn't believe.  He did have his soother mind you (which I never usually give him) but I needed him to nap.

    Traci:  I know what you mean about the house!  We bought a house 3 years ago and have redone EVERY room (that's 4 bedrooms, kitchen, dining room, living room and family room) except we haven't touched the bathrooms yet.  Now we are selling the place ... go figure. 

    Anyway, hope everyone is having a safe Turkey day!!!
    I'm off to make gravy!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 25, 2005, 00:23:12 am
    Hi ho

    Traci, the story of how you put Cole tonight sounds lovely. Very peaceful and reassuring for Cole. It's funny how sometime we get caught up in doing things the 'right' way, according how we normally do something and forget that sometimes our babies just want a snuggle sleep or snuggle before sleep. I have to admit it was so nice having Daniel sleep in the spare bed with me yesterday morning and waking up to us both being together. DH said how cute it looked, of course he didn't think to get the camera. Oh well, maybe there'll be a next time.

    Daniel had a much better night last night, slept all night with only 1 waking cos he'd moved up the cot and was banging his head. So I feel much better today for a full nights sleep. My cold got progressively worse yesterday so with us both being sick I've decided to delay my Auckland trip until Sunday. So I'll still get about 4 days there, and at least we should both nearly be healthy by then. I don't want any popping ear drums for Daniel or me.

    Traci (again) I know what you mean about wanting to change your house, we don't even own this one and I've managed to paint 2 rooms, put carpet squares down and do the gardens! The way I see it the airforce should be thankful I'm improving the look of the place rather than the hideous wallpaper they put up.   :lol:

    Micky, your comment about Jack being confused about his routine change reminds me that I keep meaning to 'borrow' a friend to come over and put Daniel to bed at night. Ideally sticking with the routine, but just to see if he'll go down for other people, not just me and DH. I'll try in Auckland with mum, but she's in her 70's and finds bathing a bit tricky. I'll get her to give him his bottle and put him into bed though, that's a good start.

    Right, time for me to rest again, this cold is taking it's toll on my energy levels. I've got to go out later, so I should make the most of Daniel being asleep while I can.

    TTFN. Happy THanksgiving to anyone who celebrates it!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Colesmom on November 25, 2005, 01:06:27 am
    Hey Cathy-sheesh, I should have stayed out longer today.  The flurries started and I headed home only to have the sun come out as I drove in the driveway!  Now it's just a mess out there!  I certainly won't be going anywhere tomorrow.  Paranoid new mom and all.  Please be careful travelling-people are so clueless the first few days it snows.

    Gotta go check the GO transit website.  DH was due home 20 minutes ago, must be a delay.  That's okay though, I didn't turn the knob all the way on the oven so I went to put my lasagna in and it was cold :shock:
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: becca24 on November 25, 2005, 04:37:49 am
    Traci - we have our pc and office in a built in cupboard. It is so good I can scatter papers everywhere then just shut the doors and no-one can see it.

    I went to the hairdressers today as the regrowth on my hair was just disgusting. Halle stayed with Mum and she had no nap  :twisted: So of course now she is napping at the time she would normally be waking up. When I went to get her, I got a freddo (chocolate frog) out of the fridge. Mum says - "Oh I was going to give Halle on of those"  :shock:  :shock: I'm said to her no giving her food unless you ask me first please  :roll: Since she is napping now it will be interesting to see how tonight goes.

    Hope everyone enjoyed their turkeys or whatever those things are you guys eat. !! I am off to make spaghetti bog. The divorce party is on tomorrow so I will check in on sunday  :D
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: FrasersMum on November 25, 2005, 05:30:05 am
    Hello my friends.

    For those of you who celebrate, happy thanksgiving.  Hope you had a lovely time.

    Bec - what is it about the M's and MIL's thinking they can give decide what the LO's eat.  We were visiting with MIL last weekend and when Fraser was showing interest in some rubbish food or another, she said "not yet, you can have that when you are a bit bigger" I said "when you are a lot bigger" and she said "oh, yes, you have to wait until you are 18" in a horrible sarcastic voice  :evil: How rude. 

    Speaking of MIL - I have to share.  I am not a big fan of this lady, for so many reasons that I won't go into right now.  Anyway, she looks after BIL and his wife's kids 1 day a week.  Before I got pg DH and I had a chat and I said "your mother will not have a regular babysitting gig with our child".  Well, she raised it when Fraser was a couple of weeks old and DH said - we aren't looking to put anything permanent in place. 

    Well, she knows that I am looking for childcare so I can go back to full time work at the office so last weekend she announces "I will be giving up my Tuesday's at work so I will be able to look after Fraser".  Excuse me??  Did I ask you to do that??  When I said we are not looking at entering into such arrangments, perhaps she could look after him occassionally, she said "well you have to arrange permanent childcare for him" I said "yes, but not with family".  She said "I thought I would save you some money".  Is is just me or is that SO out of line....  I just know that she will raise it again - I'm thinking of just saying "thank you for the offer, however just because you are able to look after him doesn't mean that we have to accept your offer". 

    Any other responses you think would be more appropriate, please feel free to offer and I'll consider  :lol:

    I won't be able to make chat tomorrow - we are going for family photos.  Have a great time and I'll catch you all over the weekend or next week.

    BFN
    Jo
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 25, 2005, 06:12:19 am
    Hi Ladies,

    Since quite a few have asked and it was mentioned on the chat last night, I am going to start a new thread and will ask the EASY moderator (either Nikki or Debinoz) to lock this one.

    Hope that's okay with everyone!

    Andrea
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 25, 2005, 06:38:25 am
    Hi everyone. Gosh, I didn't realise how lucky I am with my MIL. The only issue I have with her is she constantly tells me how much Daniel is like his dad. And how how my DH did something this way, implying Daniel will too. He's 1/2 of me too, so perhaps he may just do some things like me! At least she says he's got my personality... .I think that's meant to be a compliment. I take it that way, it's his determination that she's refering too.

    Jo - could you perhaps say that you don't want to 'abuse' her kindness and would prefer to be able to call on her for special nights out etc, rather than just being a weekly 'job' she does. And that you'd like her to be able to enjoy Fraser as a grandmother/nana rather than having to be responsible for him when you're working. Kind of make out like you're doing this in her best interest. Just a thought.

    DH went away for 8 days today, and of course it had to happen, we get a curly question from our property manager who's trying to find a tenant for our rental property. The tenants move out next weekend and we still don't have any new ones. Well, the question is, there's a family interested who have 3 teenagers and 2 golden retrievers. Would we accept them???? I guess so long as it's clear in the contract that any damage done from the dogs to the gardens or house must be repaired and that the carpets commercially cleaned when they leave then it should be okay. What do you girls think? I'm not sure if they're inside or outside dogs, hopefully outside. But if they're inside, maybe it's not such a good idea. I can't get hold of DH and tomorrow he'll be totally unreachable until next Friday. Typical.

    I bought Daniel's first Chrissy present today, it's a bouncing Tigger. I just love Winnie the Pooh and his friends, and I saw this Tigger a few years ago, but it was too early to buy baby toys back then. So I advertised on a website here that I was wanting one, and a lady contacted me yesterday. It's second hand but in really good condition. He's about 30cm tall and stands up, when you push him down he bounces up and down and talks. I just love him. I showed Daniel and after 2-3 goes he gave this huge smile.  :D Now I've just got to wrap him up and put him away until Christmas.

    All for now. Bye bye and happy sleeping!
    Title: March/April 05 Thread #2
    Post by: Deb_in_oz on November 25, 2005, 07:11:38 am
    i notice you already have the new thread started so will lock this one - let me know if it is a problem (but i assume from Andrea's message that it was already decided  :wink: )