Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 25, 2005, 06:15:31 am
Welcome Back to the funny farm! :lol: :lol:
You all know the drill so won't go into it again.
New members please feel free to join in at anytime!
:arrow: :!: ATTENTION: NEW CHAT NIGHT!!!!
FRIDAYS AT 9 PM EST
BEGINNING FRIDAY DECEMBER 2ND
(of course you all can start tomorrow 11/25, but it sounds like most of us are busy and many voted to start it next week since we have already technically had 2 chats this week)
Let's all continue the fun! :D
Post by: Jayri on November 26, 2005, 14:11:21 pm
Boy did I miss you all yesterday, but it was so nice to be able to say thankyou to the lady that has given us duch a wonderful gift as BW.
I got my hair chopped off yesterday, so I will try to post a pic for you all soon. I am now starting to get a little nervous, I feel like I am abandoning my kids, I guess it is jus the usual nerves of going back to work. But it doesn't help that Riley is cutting her second tooth at the mo, and is a major clingy cranky pants because of it.
This is making pd for naps super hard. Our routine is good otherwise, we put her on the 8mth heinz food BTW those homestyle recepies that they have now are really good, they have small peas and small chunks of carrots and potatoe in them. Anyhew, our routine is good, usually up for 2 1/2 hrs, then we have a wind down and on the 3 hr mark is when she usually falls asleep.
I was thinking of pu/pd, but she starts to cry when she feels she is being pd, that and I am nervous of starting it for it taking away time from Jayson while it is done.
Stupid me, I really should do an intro of me;
I am Naomi, 26 mum to Jayson and Riley, the absolute pride of my life. Married to Andrew 24, we just had our 3yr wedding anniversary in nov, and will be together for 5yrs in feb.
I am going staring a new job on mon.nov.28th, I am starting one as a travel consultant for a company that processes customer request over the phone.
Sorry this is a long one girls, I don't want to become a crutch for Ri going to sleep.
Take Care everyone, enjoy your long weekend in the states.
Enjoy your weekend where ever you are in the world.
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 26, 2005, 15:47:34 pm
Hayley, I don't know what to say about the renters. Do you do a security deposit? That would probably give you some peace of mind that you would ahve the money if there were any damages.
Well, first of all, we are definately dropping the df at this house! I have been waffling and wavering but this morning she only took 3 oz!!! For a morning feed so she can't really be needing the df any more. If she's not even hungry in the am?
I have been giving about 6 oz at about 9-9:30. I think I am going to drop down to 4 oz tonight at 9. Then maybe 4 again at 8:30, 2 at 8:30 then 2 at 8 for a couple of days. Does that sound like a good plan?
I probably shouldn't base much though on last night/this morning. She has been a bit out of whack since our thanksgiving.
We went to friends' for the day, starting at about 1pm. We brought the porta crib and she actually took her afternoon nap in it in their bedroom! I was actually pretty shocked.
She was all miss social butterfly after her nap, during dinner and then around 5:00 or so she started showing signs of being pretty tired (so much stimulation/new people etc). BUT we still had to "stop in" at IL's celebration on our way home.....
So we get in the car and I immediately being "negotiations" on how long we should stay. I feel like the UN rep for the land of Sophie sometimes :)
So I said I really don't want to be rude to your family but I really don't think we should puch her past about 7:30...anyhow, long story short we end up not leaving until about 8:30, with a 30 minute drive home. She was great AT IL's, although soooooo obviously over tired/over stim...as soon as we got her buckled in she started screaming the car down...crickey!!!
She actually stopped pretty quick and all was well. She went down when we got home no problem but had a few wakings now for two nights.
I think it's a combo of off schedule/overstim/developmental.
She is trying so hard to crawl. And yes she has started to "wake up" on all fours in her crib. Some of the night waking are due to this. She just can't stop "practicing" Andrea was it your dh who told Taylor Now isn't the time for you to be practicing new skills? I need to let Sophie in on that also.
OK, so I don't want to be even more long winded than usual...so I'll stop.
BTW I am Hannah, 32, 4th grade teacher going back to work in less than 2 weeks (AHHHHHH!!!!) mom to Sophie, step mom to Brendan.
TTFN
Hannah
PS Naomi, everything is going to be sooooo fine!! The kids will do great. You have them on such a great schedule, plus they get to be in their own home, no packing up etc. Everything is going to be great and we'll help you work out any bumps in the road as they come up...if they come up :) You are not abandoning them, in fact you are being an excellent role model for them by doing what you want and need to do for yourself. OK, end of pep talk.
I probably won't be on again much today or tomorrow. DH and I have our anniversary tomorrow. We are going to a local winery with a group of ten friends for a wine tasting and horsdouvres...then dinner at the rest. where we had our first date :) I think we are going to buy one share of stock for each other and frame it to commenmorate...does that just sound so unromantic or what? But it is the paper anniversary. And he wanted to do something together instead of "surprising" each other with gifts.
OK, I'm out of here. Have a winderful day/night. I will chack in as soon as I can.
TTFN Again...
Hannah
Post by: mickymuscles on November 26, 2005, 16:30:46 pm
nice to talk to you all again!
hayley...I agree with hannah. I would ask for a damage deposit. You can return it to them when they move out if you are satisfied with how they treated your house. I'm not sure if they do that over-yonder??
Naomi and hannah- good luck going back to work! I would be so sad to leave Jack already! :cry:
Hannah...we try to follow the anniversary "traditions".....Ours was paper last year....now talk about non-romantic. My DH got me a color photo printer. :roll: He was thinking that because I scrapbook that I would love it. I like it but the problem with it is that he had been talking about wanting one for himself for ages before our anniversary so it felt more like a present for him....needless to say he went out and got me a necklace instead. :oops: Oops, I really didn't meant to lay the guilt trip on him that bad. :oops: :oops: Anyways, I got him 2 tickets (the paper) to the Green Day concert. He loved it......but that idea flopped too because he had to be at work over the concert and couldn't get time off. Oh well, he got a book instead. :roll: So I definitely can't say anything about you guys buying stocks!!! :shock: :lol:
I'm Michelle (aka Micky). I'm almost 32. :D DH and I have been married for just about 3 years together for 4. Jackson is our first peanut out of probably only 2. I'm a Respiratory Therapist and not due back to work until March. But I think I will only go back on an as-needed basis so essentially becoming a SAHM. We've got 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a fish tank. :) So our house is constantly dirty, noisy, and busy!! :shock: :lol:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 26, 2005, 16:53:27 pm
I hope everybody's day is going well... we had a 5:45 wakeup this morning and no DH to put her back down... well, he woke her up when getting ready to go to work so... we have a long day ahead of us.
The nights are getting better over here. Hannah... just as you are dropping the DF, we are starting it back up over here. Last night, she took a full feed at 10:30 pm, woke at 2:15 and took another full feed, and had no problems having a full one again at 6 am this morning :shock: . Usually, all the night feedings interfere with the first one in the morning but not last night! Just when I thought I had it figured out :roll: .
Arwyn started to pull up to standing yesterday. She is becoming quite proficient at it and everything is game for pulling up on. I am a little freaked out by it all because she wants to pull up and not everything is safe for that KWIM? Oh, well... I am just glad that it did not cause multiple night wakings.
Naomi... Post those pics! I can't wait to see you in your "work" mode. I ditto Hannah in that going back to work will be fine... you put in the hard work already and your kiddies know the routine so... the transition won't be too rough!
Hannah... your plan for dropping the DF is great. I was going to ask... you are going back to work on the 8th of December and then it will be Christmas break. Did you plan this for an easier transistion for Sophie? Or for you? I am asking because I am due to go back after Spring Break... just wondering if I should ask to go back prior. We have a 'unwritten rule' that we go back at a natural break but it never hurts to ask, I guess.
I also, am also harping on the times we are out. DH thinks that getting ready to leave when she wakes from her nap is perfectly acceptable while I want him to be ready to go when she wakes. He just doesn't seem to understand that her window of A time is 2.5 hours and we can't just take 1 hour of that to get ready! :evil: Anyhow, he also thinks that 15 mins to half an hour is not a big deal... then he doesn't factor the drive home, etc. I usually end up nagging and harping all the way there and back when this happens. You would think, he would get it by now. She is how old? I have been nagging for how long? :roll:
Hi Micky!! I know what you mean about the pets. I have two birds... well, DH has two birds, I just married him and they came along for the ride. So, I am constantly dusting and vacuuming because they are so ultra-dusty! How is Jackson doing? Those casts are not bothering him too much?
TTFN
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 26, 2005, 17:06:39 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 26, 2005, 17:25:28 pm
For those that may join the thread: I am Traci, 34, married to DH Tony also 34 for 2 years September. Together ummmm 8 years total. As it says at the bottom I am mom to Cole. He's my textbook, angel and sometimes spirited little cutie.
Judy and I chatted last night. I hadn't realized we opted to start next week. So I got Judy all to myself. pffffffffffffffffffffffft!
I'm thinking of weaning Cole off his "dreamfeed" as well. (wakes for it here). He's doing so well with solids and doesn't seem overly hungry in the morning either. I think yours is a good plan Hannah. Not sure what I'll do. He's refused the second breast a couple of times so I might just do pupd when I'm more rested. I got a total of 3.5 hours sleep last night. We had guests over so I didn't want Cole waking them. He went down (fed to sleep :oops: ) at 5:30.
woke at 7pm, down right away
woke at 9pm, fed and down after about 5 min. holding my hand
woke at 11, up until 12-I finally went to bed
woke at 1:30, up until 3:30
woke at 5:20 for the day.
I think I figured out the issue. It started the other day when I put him down too early after catnap. I think I left him a touch too long to settle and he's angry with me. Now he's older and can remember :oops: I have to stay with him now for every sleep and hold his hand. If I leave too soon he reaches for it :oops:
RAVE about DH. He took him thankfully after his first nap today so I got to sleep from 7:30-10:00. Boy did I need that. He also made waffles for us and guests. He didn't even use the exersaucer. he kept putting him in the LR and Cole would crawl into kitchen and he would put him back LOL. I so know my DH...I almost reminded him to use the exersaucer but forgot.
Naomi-the kids will be okay. It may be rough with Riley teething, but just think how many other times they will be "off" and will have to get used to other people comforting them. sheesh-listen to me spew the motivational words. I should listen to them myself LOL!! You will do great in your new job. Can't wait to see the pics.
Ankie-happy to hear the standing doesn't affect Arwyn right now. I think Cole stands up in his sleep and doesn't wake up right away and then starts screaming. he knows how to get down but I think it freaks him out.
As for anniversaries, we haven't followed the traditions. For this past one I blew up 24 pictures of our travels to Portugal, London, Ireland, Mexico, Paris etc to 8X10. Now I just have to frame them.
No pets here. Will get a dog when we have a larger home. I LOVE the weimaraners (sp?) the big grey dogs that the photographer dresses up as people. Too big for us though. We'd like to get a nice medium sized dog. Probably get it from the shelter.
Naomi-you said you give Riley mum mums right? I know we've been over this but I'm just so nervous. I thought they were teething rusks...are they hard? I bought a package but it says they should be a year old. I guess as long as he's in the highchair I should be okay? I would like to give him some new textures. We're still on purees and he's gobbling them up. Maybe I'll start with cheerios this weekend. Just a few to test him.
OMG-I am soooo excited...he just made it through the 45 minute mark. I am so happy because I held him to sleep again and DH and friends are watching a loud movie and I thought for sure he'd wake. I heard his first little noise and DH paused the movie for a few minutes. phew-really hoping he gets at least another 30 minutes.
oh-Hayley-I agree, go with a damage deposit and something in the contract. Could they wait 8 days so you can talk to DH?
okay, this is long enough. have a good day everyone.
Post by: mickymuscles on November 26, 2005, 20:29:39 pm
traci: i thought we were chatting last night too but since the boards were closed i just assumed everything was. I didn't even check the chat room. Not too swift sometimes. :?
Post by: Colesmom on November 26, 2005, 20:50:12 pm
Post by: Jayri on November 26, 2005, 21:53:10 pm
We went to sears today to get the kids xmas pics done, OMG, it was packed which suked for me as I hate crowds, Jay was wired with all that was going on. We got the pics tho, after a lot of persuading Jayson. The first pics are easy to get, all they do is sit, but when they start to move, holy crap look out, it turns into a job itself.
Don't mind me ranting, I am just a little frazzled.
On the topic of food, the rusks I have for Riley are made of rice, Traci, maybe you could try Cole on some rice crackers to start off with. We switched to the 8mth food as Riley had no interest in the 6mth stuff. She is chowing her food down once again.
What I would recommend is to try a little bit of food at first, break it up and just see how he goes. If the food can break up easily in the mouth then you should have no problem.
Thanks for the wonderful words of encouragement, makes me feel so much better. I know all will be fine, so I guess it is just the unknown that scares me.
If anyone is up for a chat let me know, 8 or 9est would be good for me, just let me know.
RIght, I am off for now ladies...talk to you soon.
Post by: Jayri on November 26, 2005, 23:03:47 pm
I forgot about arrowroot cookies, and also we bought a can of peas and carrots, and then mixed about a teaspoon of them into her meal, it made it chunkier and she loved it.
I think what Ri has been doing is smoshing the food with her tongue, I think that is how she has been eating, she has to be doing something as she has only had one tooth until now.
Oh and she likes yoghut, I have no clue if it is good right now, but she was eyeing up ours, so we tried a bit on the edge of a spoon, and weyhey, another food she likes, and no effects on the poop either.
On the teething topic, doese anyone have a copy of DR Sears THe Baby Book, it teaches about attachement parenting, but it is good for a quick referance guide,say like growth and development, teething, walking and foot growth etc.
That is where I found out about the runs, red bums rash, or a red ring around the bum, and all these other things associated with teething, I guess on some lo the extra saliva is a real kicker on their little systems.
k....gotta go I only came on to talk about food....
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 26, 2005, 23:45:09 pm
We have major first crawling going in here, plus Brendan is here this weekend coupled with Thanksgiving etc etc and we have had virtually no napping today!! Yuck. I am praying she will cat nap. Other wise she'll be going to bed way too early, but maybe that's what she needs.
Oh yeah and add to all of that the singin moving xmas song singing animals that brendan loves and has now introduced Sophie to..ugh. Not to be bah humbug but i KINDA HATE THAT STUFF, ESPECIALLY WHEN i'VE HEARD IT A MILLION TIMES.
Woops, caps lock!! Didn't really mean to give that sentence so mauch EMOTION:)
OK, so I gave Sophie a rice cake, she loved it! Maybe try that traci. The Hot Kid Baby Mum Mums are great. She loves them, but I don't like her to have too many because of the sugar :roll:
Ooooo I too assumed that because the boards were closed the chat room was closed too.
Dh has to leave to take Brendan back to his mom's at about 7:30pm...which is 10:30est I think. So, I could check in then and see if you are still chatting. You know me. I always love to get in on a chat.
:lol:
See you later.
Hannah
Post by: Colesmom on November 26, 2005, 23:47:55 pm
So ladies, I figured I was here alone, had all night to sort Cole out so I thought I'd put an end to the holding to sleep. I don't mind doing it, I have the time to do it...BUT I don't want it to become an ingrained habit. The first 10 minutes in the crib he wasn't crying, just climbing up and I put him down. Then 10 minutes of crying and i did pupd. Then he seemed to settled and pulled a Halle doing mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm for about 10 minutes. :wink: Figured he was close to sleep. Nope, starting climbing up again. So, tried something different. turned his ocean wonders to "on" and let him play while I sat in the glider. This lasted 15 minutes before he started crying. Oh yes, I've also tried the reading trick Jody posted but that didn't work either. Cole has never just fallen asleep anywhere so I didn't think either of these would work but thought I'd try. Continued to do pupd. on and on and on. Anyway more mmmmmmmmmmmmmmming, and more mmmmmmmmmmmming but no sleeping. In the end I caved :oops: I really think it's t**th. I do. His gums feel swollen and he is chewing like mad and he's drooling like crazy. So he's down. Oh well. It's not like he was crying for the whole hour, only about 15 minutes and I was there the whole time so I don't feel too bad about it.
A question for you girls. Cole had poor sleep last night and woke at 5:20 am. He had two 45 minute and one hour nap (at least DH thinks-doesn't remember what time he got up). He woke from 45 min. catnap at 4:00. He was fussy the whole time during dinner etc so I put him down at 5:15. Do you guys maintain the same bedtime regardless of what time you los wake up in the morning? Should I have stuck with 6pm? I just don't think he could have made it that long.
Thanks for the food info Naomi. I think I need to move Cole onto the next stage. I will try Cheerios tomorrow and see how it goes.
I have the Dr. Sears book and I wish I hadn't left it in Coles room just now. I'll have to grab it when I go in to do the night feed. No chance I'm going in there right now and risking waking him.
Lastly, the good news. DH PASSED HIS EXAMS
i am sooooooo happy I could cry. He got the letter yesterday but didn't open it and didn't tell me until he just left for the night that it was in his bag. He didn't want to ruin his weekend. He couldn't believe it when I told him. woo hoo! our life can really begin now. I can't tell you how much sleep he's lost worrying about it since he wrote.
okay, i'm going to have some dinner. Naomi...and anyone else, see you in the chat at 8 EST.
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 26, 2005, 23:56:48 pm
It sounds like I will probably miss you gals in the chat. But maybe I can sneak in for a minute.
Sorry about Cole.
I do not keep Sophie's bedtime the same. I Try to but if she wakes really early and I haven't been able to "catch her up" during the day, she goes down early Unfortunately it's kind of a viscious cycle. But eventually it all gets sorted out...it just may take a couple of days and if it is T$%^&ing :) then he's just uncomfortable and until those suckers break through he could be all over the map.
Hang in there.
Hannah
Post by: Trip_Wire on November 27, 2005, 00:54:49 am
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 27, 2005, 01:02:29 am
Food - Daniel's been enjoying some more chunkier food too. The flavours are more interesting too which I think helps. He's been a different eater since I bought his meal times forward by about an hour. I even got adventurous yesterday and made him macaroni cheese. I had no idea if he'd like it, but he did. I used formula, cheese and flour for the cheese sauce, macaroni mashed with a fork once cooked and had some zucchini on the side for his vege. He seemed to like it, and as there's left overs for tonight I guess I'll find out if he eats it again. I read somewhere that it's really important to have them eating more chunkier meals as they get closer to 1 year because if they don't develop their chewing jaw motion they are slower to develop speech. All to do with their mouth forming different shapes I guess.
We're not going to Auckland now, so Karen we won't be able to catch up. The plane has broken down and so no flight. :cry: Oh well, nothing I can do, it was free so can't complain.
Naomi - best wishes for your new job. Think how much the kids are going to loooove seeing you when you come home each day. Just like they get excited when their dad comes home.
Traci - Daniel's bedtime remains the same at the end of the day 6.30pm, unless he's extremely cranky and tired. He's usually awake from his afternoon nap by 2.30pm and stays awake until bed. You might find Cole is actually fine if you keep him up. Infact come to think of it, we haven't done the catnap in ages, and when we did stop it helped improve his night sleep. Do you do bathtime at night? We find that definitely helps when he does get cranky. We try to hold him out until 5.45pm for that though. I have also found bringing his dinner time earlier to 4.30pm has also solve some of the grizzling crankiness. I think what was happening when I thought he was bored and tired he was actually hungry!
Ok, time for a 5 min nap for me before Daniel wakes... or can I hear him now. Don't think I'll be able to make the chat today, with Daniel still being sick with a cold he's a lot more clingy.
Post by: Erin M on November 27, 2005, 01:26:27 am
I've been catching up since my last post many, many pages ago. I think you're chatting right now, but I don't think I'll have the chance to stop in. Sooooooooo tired - but had to let you ladies in on my Thanksgiving - Katie has had a cold for the past week or so, nothing too serious, just a cold from all indications. Anyway, we get to the ILs Wednesday night, put her to bed, all is fine....she had a MISERABLE night Wednesday, up every hour at least - I'm thinking it's all due to the cold and the unfamiliar place. We get up Thursday and Katie is super sluggish and very unhappy. Keeps falling asleep on anyone who was holding her (SO not like her - we take her temp and it's almost 104! -- for you metric folks, normal is 98.6). So, I call our pediatrician (can I tell you HOW much I LOVE the man who took time out of his Thanksgiving to talk to me for 20 minutes) - and he's not happy - her fever is too high, she's breathing WAY too fast (66-72 breaths a minute - apparently something closer to 40 is normal) so he tells us to take her to the hospital. They ran a bunch of tests, turns out it's all viral, but they gave her a breathing treatment (like what they give asthmatics) and a ton of Advil and Tylenol to kick the fever and make it easier for her to breathe. They sent us home - Thursday night was rough - she ended up sleeping with me (guess who is sick now?!), last night was better, and today all she wanted to do was sleep. Temp is close to normal, though her lungs are still super congested. What an awful, awful day. I'm so glad everything seems to be ok.
Anyway, sorry to all the other moms with sick LOs. Hope everyone in the US enjoyed their holiday.
Best of luck with the new job Naomi on Monday.
Thanks for reading about my trauma.
Talk to everyone soon.
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 27, 2005, 01:47:29 am
The weekedn went pretty well! I actually got him to bed in my parents condo with a whole bunch of people having dinner only steps away from his bedroom!!! He didn't even have any nightwakings and slept until his normal wake-up time. He had two naps in his playpen as well. On Fri we went to DH uncle's who has this amazing house in the country (think indoor pool, babbling brook outside back door, huge stone fireplace) and I actually got CArter to fall asleep on teh couch in front of the fire :shock: :D I have NEVER been able to get to sleep anywhere other than crib or carseat/stroller. DH always whines that he wants him to sleep on him but he won't. I knew Carter was tired and I had nowhere to put him down for a nap (the men were off doing business) so I ran through our usual winddown and then sat on this huge sectional sofa and put Carter in front of me. I rubbed his back and sang a little bit and he was out like a light ... THAT is until DH cames in the front door yelling "Honey, where are you??" Oh well I was so happy that I actually suceeded that I just let him finish his nap on the way back to town! Well that's it for my weekend!
Hayley: When I was renting and I had my big hound/rotti dog, my landlord made me sign an agreement to fix any damage and to have the place professionally sprayed for fleas etc and the carpets cleaned when my lease was up. My dog never had fleas or did any damage thank goodness but atleast I knew what I was getting into.
Naomi & Hannah: Good luck to both of you going back to work. I am definitely not looking forward to it myself. I have unitl Feb so let me know how it goes. I am having a hard time finding day care around here too :(
Traci: Weimaraners are great dogs! When they are puppies their fur feels like velvet. I would definitely recommend getting a dog from a pound or if you know what breed you want look for a rescue club for that breed. They usually have all ages and then you know that you are helping out!! I can help you with contacts if you need any or the Dogs in Canada magazine is fantastic.
BTW, I'm Cathy ... just turned 26, married to DH for 2.5 years, have one dog (Boss) and one fancy pants cat (Ollie Furr)!!! I am a veterinary technician with a psychology degree (my husband reminds me daily about what a waste that degree was because I ended up going to vet tech school after anyway). We have one darling baby boy, Carter (aka Carcheezy) and can't wait to have more!!!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 27, 2005, 03:01:16 am
Daniel's still Mr Grizzly bum - I think on top of his cold he's got all the t##thing symptoms too. Rash down-under, red cheeks, very clingy, and the cold to top it all off. I thought the cold was getting better but today he's definitely worse again. Probably a good thing we haven't ended up in Auckland after all. I've just put him down for an afternoon catnap, having just said in my last post he doesn't have them now, today he soooo desperately needs it. I guess he's like us, and when sick needs more sleep.
As I didn't get my snooze before, I'm going to get it now.
Oh, btw I'm 34yrs old, married to DH for 1.5 years, together for total of 6.5yrs. Live on an airforce base in the lower North Island. 2 cats, Marty and Macy. I used to be an executive assistant for the director of an investment company, (very stressful at times) now full time mum. I'll go back part time when Daniel's 1 yr old just to keep my hand in it and for some extra $$$$. I do miss it a weeny bit too.
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 27, 2005, 03:09:24 am
1st one is me pre-Carter, 2nd is our Wedding day and 3rd is Carter at our Thanksgiving!!!
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 27, 2005, 03:12:34 am
On the plus side, I finally got some pics posted!!!
Post by: kate585 on November 27, 2005, 03:37:50 am
Erin, you poor girl! Or, I guess Katie is the poor girl, but we're here to support the moms...everyone else will be fawning over Katie, right? :wink: Glad she seems to be on the mend.
Hayley, congrats on the tenant, but sorry about the trip to see your folks. I'm sure they're bummed, too.
Cathy, hooray for you!!! Carter looks so much like dh...they're both facing the same way and look a lot alike. You are a cutie, too...what is it with this thread? :D
Traci, CONGRATULATIONS to dh!!! And, to you!! You were such a huge suppor to him through all of this you get a lot of the credit in my book! :wink:
We are home from our trip with minimal scars. Ryan was GREAT at Thanksgiving...just didn't want to miss anything so no nap when he really needed one. Everyone thought dh and I were crazy b/c we kept being like, "He's so tired. He's about to get cranky." and he's just smiling and laughing and entertaining everyone. He did well the rest of the weekend and even took a nap at my best friend's house and slept long enough for dh and I to see the new Harry Potter (great, btw).
When I was at my friend's house she was talking about her friend's son who is allergic to wheat, eggs, nuts, and milk. :shock: So, I start talking about my friend whose son is allergic to wheat and how there are a lot of gluten free products out there. Now, my two best friends know all my friends and who has kids, etc. So they were like, "Whose kid is allergic to wheat?" Dh looks at me like, "You're busted!" So, I had to spend the next 20 minutes explaining the BW philosophy and how I chat online and post and all this. It is so weird to explain, isn't it? I really fell like you all are my friends, but it is so funny to explain to other people, especially when I was so not an online kind of girl pre-baby.
Okay, that was long...can you tell dh is at a hockey game and I'm flying solo on a Saturday night? :lol:
Post by: B&BMommy on November 27, 2005, 03:55:16 am
Quick update, then back to get caught up. Although I'm crazy should be in bed right now. We've had a rough few nights. Up either every hour or every two hours as least. Its been hard.
I've also been with my sister too, so no sleep and lots of running around, :shock: she's on new meds now, so we're hoping they will work for her, but they are making her quite sick too. :(
Well, as I said just a quick post from me tonight. Going to get caught up, and then hopefully to bed for a few hours....fingers crossed.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Judy on November 27, 2005, 03:57:48 am
Erin soooo sorry to hear Katie is sick and had to go to emerg. That's awful. Glad she's going to be ok! Your pediatrician sounds awesome!! Hope you are feeling better soon too!
Traci I put the girls down at the same time every night regardless of morning wake time and/or nap schedule. If we hit a rough patch around 4.30-5pm and they just aren't happy I will sneak in an extra feed and let them have some 'quiet zen time' on the boob. It's too late for catnap at 5pm and this allows us to get through supper and baths.
And hey - congrats to your DH for passing his exam!!!!! Great news!
DH is packing up and getting ready to leave for Italy and Germany tomorrow - he's gone until next Monday. :( I hope the week passes quickly. My mom is coming tomorrow till Wed. and his mom then Thu. till Sun...... eeeeek. I know it will be good to have help here, heck I have LOADS of laundry to be folded that they'll both be happy to do... but, *sigh* I really enjoy my own space. I think we'll plan to do some Christmas decorating and special crafts each day - something for the girls to make for daddy each day. They're gonna be so sad. Sarah cries her little heart out everyday when daddy leaves for work :(
Have to say the girls and thinking about crawling but only for short moments and then the thoughts are brushed out of their minds by two bigger girls who swoop in and lie all around them. Honestly there's nowhere for them to crawl too if they wanted to. :roll: If I put toys *just* out of their reach someone either hands it to them or snatches it away almost immediately. Oh well - I should enjoy knowing where they are while I can... once they start to crawl I'm sure I'll be going out of my mind with them hiking off in different directions. :)
We're still doing ok with solids - although nowhere near where most of you are. They love their cereal now and will take a COUPLE bites of squash, apples, banana but they still aren't totally sure about these other things. Kaia figured out how to get cheerios in her mouth - took a lot of work and after working and working to get 3 or 4 in and chewed up she decided to take a little catnap in her feeding chair :) Hard work you know!! Hannah figured it out the next morning - got only 1 in her mouth, didn't realize I guess that she needed to chew it and promptly started to choke, gag and then throw up :roll: Fun stuff.
Night sleep is going so well now. They go down without any fuss, just lie them down anywhere between 7 and 7.30pm and they either go right to sleep or chit chat for a bit and then go to sleep. SOOOOO nice!!! And then I don't hear from them till 5am - they've had a few nights of an odd waking at 4.46am (yes, 4.46am!!), usually going right back to sleep but I've had a night with each of them fussing on and off till I feed them at 6-6.30am. I'd really like to get them to not wake until 7am. Patience I guess.
OH and welcome Jenean How cool to have Riley and Jayson's nanny hanging out with us!!
Oh and for anyone new: I'm Judy (obviously :wink:), 37, married to dh for 4yrs last week :) together for 9yrs, mom to Zoe 3.5, Sarah 2, and Kaia & Hannah 7 months today :)
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 27, 2005, 04:05:40 am
Erin sorry about Katie, hope you both are feeling better soon. Hang in there Holly.
Cathy..not surprised you are a babe and carter's pretty cute too :)
Goodnight.
Hannah
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 27, 2005, 05:17:46 am
Traci... Bedtimes... we try to stick to 6:30 but with the catnap in absentia, we have been putting Arwyn down at 6:00. Some days where it is obvious she is tired and wanting to sleep, we put her down even earlier but those days are rare... we have done it maybe once in the last month.
Erin... sorry to hear about Katie's trip to the ER. :cry: I am glad your paediatrician is so wonderful and that Katie is doing fine now.
Hayley... bummer about the trip. :cry: I do hope you and Daniel are feeling better soon.
Judy... Italy and Germany... one day, you'll have to convince his company to send you too... like for moral support :wink: . I love hearing stories about your girls, they make me smile. :)
Holly... Hang in there... Brady will get the hang of this sleeping thing yet! :shock:
Cathy... hot mama! Thanks for posting the pics. Your lo looks a lot like your DH. I love that picture of him in the leaves. Yeah for Carter going down for naps and a good sleep even with noise around him! Don't you love it when you're successful? :D
Kate... I know what you mean by having to explain how you have all these "friends". Feels weird, doesn't it? I really do consider you all my friends and it is totally awkward to explain that to someone who doesn't do this kind of thing.
Going to bed early tonight... pizza, pop and an early bedtime on Saturday... ho hum.
Oh yeah... Ankie, 33, elementary school teacher, married for 3, together for 7. Two birds, Spike and Fred (both female :roll: ... you have to ask DH why the names). Proud mommy to Arwyn Ophelia aka The Nut.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 27, 2005, 07:03:15 am
Good luck with your jobs Naomi and Hannah!
Traci, Danielle still has the same 7pm bedtime regardless of the time her final nap ended. Congrats to your DH!
Judy, great that the girls are getting the hang of eating, D is scoffing down so much food now, for one that took so long wanting to eat she sure can pack it away.
Anyone have issues with other people offering food to your babies? My stepdad put a bowl of ice cream in from of D last night for dinner (WTH? :evil: ) - fortunately my mum was holding her and scowled at him and removed the bowl super quick before little missy managed to grab at it. If I'm going to be giving her new food it's at lunch time and on MY schedule! Gee, ya think he might have learnt when Nathan was 5mths old and he gave him a teaspoon of HONEY before I saw what was going on - talk about hear my wrath! :x
Erin, glad to hear Katie is better.
*Waves* to everyone else!
Well I'm Nikki, 33, married to DH for 5yrs, fulltime SAHM but studying towards a diploma so I can work at home next year.
Post by: mickymuscles on November 27, 2005, 16:38:22 pm
Traci: we also put jack down at the same time everynight. sometimes it is stretching him a bit but then it backfires in the morning with him. If we put him down earlier, he wakes earlier, then he'll go down earlier, wake earlier, etc, etc,....you get the idea. :roll: when i have let him go down too early i end up having to pay for it and try to "reset" his clock for the next week. Oh, and CONGRATS!!!!! to your DH. what were these exams for again?? I'm sure you've mentioned it but my memory is short!!!
Erin....I hope Katie is feeling better soon. So scary when they are so sick like that! If you ever notice her breathing so hard that she is pulling the muscles in between her ribs in, or if she is listless or her coloring is pale or even a bit blue tinged especially around her lips or nose make sure to take her back to the ER. (((((((HUGS)))))))) You can PM or e-mail me if you have any other ?'s about signs or symptoms or if your just not sure if you should be going to the ER.
Ankie-Jack is doing very well. He is oblivious to his casts......ooooh that little bugger is awake after 30min nap! :x Gotta go
Post by: Jayri on November 27, 2005, 16:38:55 pm
Judy I know it about crawling, people tell me I have my hands full with my two, I tell them I have it easy for now as only 1 is mobile. Good to hear that all is going smoothly for you.
Well as for Riley's bedtime, we aim for 7pm each night, it usually in that ball park, but as we all know each day is never the same.
She is doing awesome on her naps tho, she had 1.5 hr so far today, I now have to work on getting her to settle on her own, she can do it sometimes now, but I think that this tooth pushing thro has thrown her off a little.
Janean and I had a good chat last night, I did a list up of the things that she fussues for and also what a routine should loo like. She knows I keep a log, and had been doing so. She was glad I wrote down what she fusses for, as I told her she doesn't know her cues like i do, even dh doesn't.
Thanks for the words of encouragement girls, I will be sure to stop by tomorrow and tell you how it went. Janean also said she would put pics up of me while I am at work, so you can all see what I look like as a working girl.
To give you a rough idea of my hair, it is now brushing the bottom of my ears, I like it, not too short, but I can still tuck it behind my ears.
gotta run, Ri needs me....
Post by: B&BMommy on November 27, 2005, 17:55:44 pm
Not much to report sleep wise, pretty much the same.
Brady's reflux is acting up again, we had tried the suppositories form of the Losec, but wasn't working well. So we are back to the flavoured liquid form of it mixed with half juice and he at least seems to take it....???
Next step is going to a natropath, hoping this is going to help with that.
We are off to a Birthday party this afternoon for friends of ours, their daughters 3rd b-day. Will most likely through us right off schedule, but I don't know what else we can do to, other than not attend, and I don't want to do that.... :oops:
Judy - glad the girls are doing well sleep and eating wise. Yah!
Traci - congrats to dh, well done!
Kate I feel the same way when I tell people about my online friends, they look at me weird, but hey, I do think of all of you as my friends, and a life line when Brady isn't sleeping, which is well, always....lol
Oh ya, for anyone new...I"m Holly, pre-Brady worked as Human Resources Manager, married 5 years to DH Shawn, together total of 7. Want to find another line of work so I can stay at home with Brady and not go back.... :? Proud mommy to Brady-8months, (Breanna and 4 other angels in Heaven), and mom to one Furbaby,Indy (cat)
Have a great sunday girls. Enjoy!
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Colesmom on November 27, 2005, 18:06:00 pm
Kate-sooooo busted LOL! When DH and friends were watching a movie the other night I said I was going online to chat. And they asked with whom? I said "other mommies from around the world" and they laughed like i was crazy :wink:
Micky- DH wrote his CMA (Certified Management Account) entrance exam. That's the hardest part of the program. Still two years of group/individual assignments but it's pretty much a gimme from here. Glad to hear Jack is well (aside from the short nap)
Erin-my gosh, what a scare! Glad to hear Katie is on the mend. Your pediatrician sounds wonderful. Maybe send a thank-you card for his/her time?
for us...well, another rough kind of night. I have at least one episode where he's up 1-1.5 hours. I just extended a nap by holding him...and well, I think he's waking now after a whopping 5 minute extension. I am trying not to doubt myself with the holding to sleep. sometimes he wakes a bit upon hitting the mattress and will grab my hand and settle on his own so I guess i shouldn't worry. And once I'm certain it's not teeth I will endure a week of pupd or however long it takes to get back on track. On a positive note, I took your advice Kate and didn't get him up (well, out of his room) until 6 this morning. He woke at 4:10 and fed. I tried keeping in his crib but it became a game...him getting up, me putting him down. So I let him stand as long as he wanted until he cried...sometimes 5-10 minutes (of standing), then I'd put him down. I ended up holding him to sleep again at 5:10, went to bed myself at 5:30 and he got up at 6:10. So at least our day started later, kind of :oops: I am doing what I feel he needs right now, at least what my gut is telling me to do, BW or not! Tonight he's staying up until 6 regardless of how tired he is. No more of this 5:15-5:30 bedtime nonsense!
okay, DH is giving me trouble to get showered. going to Home Depot to pick up a bunch of stuff and put up our xmas tree today.
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 27, 2005, 18:07:04 pm
Holly, have fun at the party.
Ankie, my principal asked me to come back at the beginning of the second trimester which just happened to fall a week and a half before our two week break. I actually wanted to come back after the break in January, but now I am kind of happy to be going back for the sort of trial period of the week and a half...maybe that would work for you too? Also, I posted in the working parents forum for suggestions for moms going back to work...so far Ihave gotten some really great responses. You might want to check it out at some point....just a thought.
Question for you ladies.
I have been using Similac Advance to supplement my ebm for about a month or so now. We have also given her a bottle or two of formula only. I am wondering, are there big differences in formulas? Would it be bad to switch? I only started using this stiff because we had a free can of powder from the hospital...being the cheapskate that I am...
I have coupons for other brands...and I am wondering if I should stick with the Similac because it works or if it's a big deal to change?
Thanks in Advance.
Hannah
Post by: B&BMommy on November 27, 2005, 18:14:20 pm
We need to get our Christmas lights up outside still, then comes the tree.
Good for you on your early start...let me know how Cole likes the tree!
Hannah - I wish I had some advice on the formulas, I don't though, I'm honestly not sure about switching them at all, hopefully some of the others will know...good luck.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Jayri on November 27, 2005, 18:18:41 pm
K...off to enjoy my sunday with my kids.
Post by: B&BMommy on November 27, 2005, 18:21:50 pm
Erin - I'm sorry to hear Katie is sick, I hope she feels much better soon. So glad you have a dr you love and is on top of things, important to have.
Cathy - love the pics, thanks for sharing....the leaf one is sooo adorable.
Naomi - I have the Dr. Sears baby book as well, and find it does have some useful info that I use for referance too.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: mickymuscles on November 27, 2005, 18:25:27 pm
Post by: B&BMommy on November 27, 2005, 18:28:55 pm
yes I know I have to post a pic, I don't have one yet of Brady and I, still need someone to take one...lol...I'm the one always taking the pics....I'll post one of Brady and I as soon as I get one done. As for just me, well, I can post a wedding pic I guess, I look better there anyway...lol
Post by: B&BMommy on November 27, 2005, 18:29:59 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 27, 2005, 18:49:18 pm
I am still planning on taking a pic when we meet up next. If we can ever get enough sleep to meet up that is :wink:
Naomi-in case I haven't said it enough-good luck tomorrow! I'm sure Janean, Riley and Jayson will all do great. And I can just see the smiles now when you walk in the door at the end of the day :D
Post by: Jayri on November 27, 2005, 19:00:47 pm
I think I have saved most of the pics you all put up. It helps me to remember who I talk to, and was a good help with janean in showing her who you all were.
Many thanks once again for the kind words of encouragement, I am excited yet anxious, I guess that goes with the territory with starting a new job after being on mat leave.
Oh, I got Riley to settle on her own just now, woohoo!!!. She wouldn't settle on me, so I had an "inckling" that she would do it, so I tucked her in with her care bear, she has take care bear, I slowly edged out of the room, sh noticed I was there, but just put her head down. Now if she will do that at bedtime I will be dancing for joy.
Right....that is my time for now......bye for now you hotties :wink: :wink:
Post by: becca24 on November 27, 2005, 22:34:39 pm
Happy Anniversary to Hannah :) and congrats to Traci's DH. Traci - LOL at Cole pulling a Halle :lol: .
Hello and welcome to Janean.
Hayley - the plane broke down??? omg that just freaks me out. Are you still going to get on it after they fix it???? :shock: :shock:
Naomi - good luck for your first day, dont forget the pics
Erin - Hope Katie is feeling better.
Hugs to everyone having rough nights and hello to everyone else. (love the pics everyone) Judy -are your girls still sleeping all night? I read so many pages I can't remember everything :?: :)
Nikki - I have issues with people (family) all the time about Halle's food. They try to give her things like ice cream, ice blocks, biscuits. It drives me mad. Then they question why can't she eat that? I say because she is my baby and I say she can't eat that yet !!! I even have some people tell me I should stop breastfeeding :shock: :twisted: :shock: That makes me even madder. Yesterday at the divorce party a friend commented that I have lost a lot of weight. Before I could answer one of my other friends blurted out "Halle is sucking the life out of her, she needs to be put on a bottle" :shock: :shock: :shock: I just looked back at my other friend and did this :roll:
Traci - we try to put Halle to bed around the same time everynight also. I have also being trying for naps around the same time as well which has resulted in her starting to sleep longer than 45mins :D :D What I find is that sometimes there is like a little 'hump' that you have to get over. So she might be a little grizzly and cry a bit earlier, but once I get over that hump she is right to go for a bit longer. KWIM? I am not sure if that makes sense :lol:
DH Rave - Well, I went to the divorce party saturday night and DH was home alone all night with dd. I was so happy that everything went well and she took a bottle from him with no trouble. She woke at 11.30 and he re-settled her and 3.30 he gave her a small bottle. I suppose it's no big deal as there is no reason why he shouldn't be able to look after her by himself. Maybe I am just happy that I now know I can do things and not have to worry that he is going to stress out :? omg am I making any sense today?? I better go this is a long and confusing post 8) :? :lol: :D :wink:
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 27, 2005, 22:59:13 pm
Bec, re the plane.... I think it 'broke down' after it landed safely. The airforce is really particular about their aircraft and if there's something every so slightly not right they ground it until fully investigated and safe to fly. Which is a good thing, I'd rather that than have them fly when it's not safe. And with only 1 Boeing 757 when it's out of service there's no replacement. DH is due home on Friday, and although that's still 5 days away I'll just stay here. We're off to Wellington in the weekend though so I may stay there for the week afterwards as DH goes away again. (I think I may have told you all that already :oops: )
Judy - great to hear your girls are doing just sooo well now. I bet you didn't think it would ever happen a month or two ago. Well done, pat yourself on the back.
Hannah - we've switched formula's and our health nurse said it would be fine to do so, just not all the time. In saying that, I've got a friend who just buys what's on special.
Yay, sounds like Daniel's gone back to sleep. In that case I'll say ta-ta to you girls and go off to the garage to pull out my Chrissy decs and tree! Yay!!!!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 27, 2005, 23:19:33 pm
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 28, 2005, 00:24:41 am
I got a look of horror from my friend's husband when I said that Arwyn needed to be fed and that she is breastfed. He asked if I had a bottle for her and I must have given him a puzzled look because as he realized, his eyes nearly popped outta his face. Anyhow, she was only 7 weeks at the time. Another friend asked me why Arwyn had not weaned yet. "Why, she is almost 6 months for God's sake, Ankie!" was the comment.
So... I live with this... there is only 1 Chinese Canadian friend I have that EBFs her baby. But... my 91 year old grandma keeps telling me how great it is that Arwyn still breastfeeds! :shock: Completely different from your granny, Nikki!
Post by: B&BMommy on November 28, 2005, 03:00:53 am
Traci - no that is not my sister beside me, a friend. Both girls are friends. Long time girlfriends from school. (why do we look alike?)??? :?
LOL Traci, on the if we both ever get enough sleep to get together..... :wink:
Well, we went to the birthday party, it was great. they had clowns come in, Brady loved it. I'll post some pics of it soon. Brady gave no warning signs at all, and dozed of in dh's arms for a 45 minute cat nap, right at the exact time he usually does, go figure, can't figure my boy out these days.
But....off schedule, didn't get him calmed down and into bed unitl 9pm OMG....way off schedule...will i pay more for this outing now.....???
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 28, 2005, 07:52:21 am
Daniel ended up sleeping for 2.5 hours which was great, because not only did he need it, but I got to put my tree up! And of course, that gave me a great opportunity to take more photos of Daniel. Here they are.....
Desperate Housewives is on, so I must dash. :D
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 28, 2005, 13:45:17 pm
I'm confused ... and tired! Hope everyone else had a good night and best wishes on good naps today!!
Post by: Trip_Wire on November 28, 2005, 15:20:18 pm
First day as the nanny by myself is going smoothly, Riley right now is wearing herself out playing and watching tv at the same time, she good at multitasking, and jayson's been watching tv and drawing a picture for his mom but it's not turning out the way he wants it too, so he set it aside and gone on the next mess... :roll:
Other then that there seems to be no big problems thank goodness...
Ohhh drat I forgot to get a pic of Nomi on her first day off to work... that's ok I'll be waiting when she gets home girls!! :lol:
Post by: Colesmom on November 28, 2005, 16:22:29 pm
Holly-I'm no good at telling people look alike. she had blonde hair...thought she might be your sis. silly me, as your sis likely had a bridesmaid dress on. I ALMOST typed BM dress, but then the silly women on our thread would comment on her wearing poop for a dress. LOL
Cathy-Did Cole move in with you guys? Same issue here.
I think I'm paying for holding him to sleep. He slept great from 6-1:00, woke only once for his feed at 9:50. Then it just went down hill. pretty much up from 1:15-4:30, down until 5:15 then I called in DH for the first time ever as I have never ever been so exhausted. Not even when starting pupd so many months ago. I sat in the glider and cried and was keeping Cole awake with my sniffling :oops: Most of the time he just wants to play :?: :?: :?: Does that mean it's developmental?
This morning I settled him for nap without tylenol or anbesol so maybe it's not teeth. I looked at his gums today and no change. I thought they felt swollen, but they aren't red or puffy. The only sign of teething is he's clingy and chewing hard on a lot of stuff. I extended the nap by holding him back to sleep and then bringing him to bed to extend MY nap. He's in much better spirits than he has been after 1:45 nap. hmmmph.
I might have to re-introduce full on pupd tonight. No mercy. I am thinking it has to do with letting him settle too long last week. He doesn't seem too fearful of his crib though. He'll play in it during the day anyway. But it's the SCREAMING that gets to me. If it was his regular cry I would let him settle but it's different somehow. Are they just getting older and learning how to manipulate us? Is that what's going on?
oh my, this was supposed to be quick and short, but little man seems content in his saucer so I'll take advantage.
Hayley-love the pics of Daniel. We tried taking Cole's Santa hat pics yesterday but he wouldn't sit still. They are quite funny actually with him crawling towards me. I think we'll just have to use the ones we took at the party last week with DH holding him-just zoom in on his face.
We got our tree up yesterday too, no decorations yet though. I rearranged the living room so that the tree is in the corner behind the sofa and 100% blocked off. There was no way I was going to spend a month chasing Cole away from the tree.
Janean-happy to hear things going well.
okay, he's not so content anymore.
bye everyone
Post by: mickymuscles on November 28, 2005, 17:14:57 pm
Cathy-IMO it sounds like teeth. That is what was happening with Jack....he wasn't eating enough during the day because his gums were sore. So for a couple of days I gave him tylenol during the day also....even tho he didn't seem to out of sorts just so that he would eat better. He seemed to notice the pain more at night tho.
Janean...good to hear things are going ok so far....I hope you haven't jinxed yourself!! :D
Ok....I've got a ? -DH and I need to get our bathtub reglazed (it is the original avacado colored tub). The last owner put way to much caulking around the surround and doors. I've been playing over in my head how I'm supposed to ask the reglazer guy if he removes the excess "caulk"??!!!! :shock: :roll: Do I say "We've got to much caulk...can you remove it??" etc....you get where I'm going with this.
Post by: Colesmom on November 28, 2005, 17:20:02 pm
Post by: B&BMommy on November 28, 2005, 17:30:00 pm
Cause unless you've had the "screaming" its hard to picture it. :shock:
I hope it gets better for you.
Janean glad to hear things are going ok so far
Hayley love the pics...so cute....we're getting ready to do Brady's Christmas pics today or tomorrow.
As for our night, we finally got 4 straight hours again....from 2am till 6am, its only 4 hours, but hey, better than what I'm used too.....I'll take it.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 28, 2005, 17:38:15 pm
I'm confused though because he is completely happy during the day, taking good naps, eating like a champ and then at night it's just all screaming!!! DH is useless only because Carter never settles for him, he always offers to try though. I just say I would rather have 30mins of crying if I do it and DH have a good sleep then 1-2hrs of crying if DH attempts it and me lying awake listening to it all!!!!! Oh well, I can always hope that tonight will be better??!!!! It will be ... right???!!!!
Atleast the snow all melted, the sun is shining and it is 60 degrees outside!
Maybe we will just take a long walk Carter and I and get some ice cream ... usually that'll cure anything!!!
Post by: solnme on November 28, 2005, 17:54:03 pm
I was going to wait until I had a picture before I posted again but who knows when that will be since DH is in charge of it.
RANT/RAVE - DH is a chronic procrastinator and I had to make him a check list in order for stuff to get done around here. Leaky sink, babyproofing etc. He's getting it done but breaking shower doors, busting pipes and buying new kitchen hardware that we really don;t need. Oh well, at least we're getting somewhere but my house is a disaster!
Hannah & Judy - Happy Anniversary!
Traci - sooo cute how Cole holds your hand to go to sleep. How can you not gush!
Naomi - it's day one today isn't it? Good luck and a big "what's up' to Jenean
Cathy and Holly are super hotties!!
Lots of breastfeeding comments from people. The nerve! I'm not a big public breastfeeder only because my melons are so huge I'm scared of taking someones eye out. :wink: Really, I've looked here, Seattle, Portland and San Fran and haven't found a nursing bra that fits proper.
Sols also very easily distracted when he eats. I've tried it, not fun.
My milk supply has also been really low the last few days thanks to my 'visitor' (can't remember the acronym you guys use) it's been so frustrating. My dr. wants to put me on meds but it's only 3 or 4 days out of the month. I'm thinking of trying Fenugreek capsules.
Ahh, someone's awake.
ttfn
Post by: mickymuscles on November 28, 2005, 18:02:58 pm
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Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 28, 2005, 19:13:22 pm
Missed you all with the long Thanksgiving weekend. We didn't go on a trip anywhere, just had a lot of different fun things going on.
Thanksgiving was great. she didn't nap very well, but was still super happy baby. She ended up going to bed in my mil's porta crib so we got to stay and play cards, then got her up to go home around 10 and right back to bed. Thought for sure she'd have some night wakings and ruin our 2 night winning streak, but slept right through till 7ish. :)
Friday we went to a party for parents and their babies (one of the moms in my group hosted it) and out of 8 babies, Taylor was the only one sleeping through the night!!!! And yes, she was the only BW baby! The next closest was a baby 9 months sleeping 5-6 hour stretches :shock: We had a lot of fun.
Saturday we had friends over for dinner and watched a silly Adam Sandler movie.
Then yesterday I went to the movies with one of my new girlfriends from my moms group! Had a great jam packed weekend.
So after dropping the df completely, Taylor has now slept all through the night for 6 nights in a row! :o We are so happy after the rough patch we went through with getting her to drop it! It took just over a week of MULTIPLE night wakings and a lot of doubting myself, but we made it through!
So Hannah, definitely recommend dropping it as I think it has now helped her night sleep the rest of the night. We went cold turkey which I know is not advised, so your plan actually sounds better, but either way it worked!
And yes Hannah, it was my dh that told Taylor to stop practicing in the crib! :lol: happy anniversary btw!
Traci-sorry to hear your nights have been rough and hope you see improvement soon. We put Taylor down between 6:45-7:15, but 6:30 at the earliest if she has had a really bad napping day. I think you are right to try and move bed time out a bit, and I think you may be surprised at how he can do with a long A time in the afternoon. Taylor has now been doing about a 4.5-5 hour A time which sounds crazy I know, but she seems okay as long as she is doing something interesting KWIM?
BTW, tell DH CONGRATS!!! that is so great!
ERin, sorry to hear about her cold and trip to the er, but like you said at least you had an awesome ped to help you through it.
Holly- sorry night have been tough. hope they improve soon.
who started the comments about bf still? crazy what people find shocking these days huh? Gosh, sorry I am choosing to do what I think is best for my child! oh well, I guess they think they know more than the WHO and AAofP! luckily I get a lot of support from my friends and family (both sisters bf till 1 year).
Kate-totally busted on the chatting!!! So know what you mean and in fact when I was reading your story it sounded like several of my run ins I have had! It is weird to refer to you as friends, but it also feels right KWIM?
Janeane-wlecome to the borads and jump on anytime you have q's about Riley!
Naomi-where is our update on your first day and the picture????? I am anxiously awaiting!
alright, time to go! Have a great day everyone!
Andrea
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 28, 2005, 19:36:20 pm
I am wondering if you ever had a chance to do a Pick up put down explanation or if you know where I can find one. I wan to give it to my child-care friend just in case. I totally understand if you can't/don't want to/don't have time...whatever, just thought I would ask.
Let me know what you think.
That's great about the df. I think you are right about the better sleep. Looking forward to it here.
Thanks for all the formula advice by the way. Anyone use target Brand. It's on sale right now and sooooo cheap, but is it anygood?
Had a great anniversary party/wine tasting last night.
More later, bub's up :)
Hannah
BTW...such a cute picture of Mickey and Holly.. you are just another babe in babeland :)
Post by: Judy on November 28, 2005, 19:56:00 pm
Traci After reading Andrea's post and then thinking back to your night troubles with Cole here's my thought... and toss it out the window if you like because it's so easy to have an idea from ways over here :) Start pu/pd with that df (the 9.50pm) on - skip it totally. If any time of the day Cole was going to be able to go a long stretch without food it should be that first night stretch. So if he's feeding at 5.30 or 6pm then 10pm df is really just another 4hour stretch. I really think he could go beyond it. AND as Andrea found with Taylor - perhaps he'll sail right through the night. That's the first waking time I worked with and it went really well.
Now I just need to figure out how to skip the 5.30am waking??
Janean good to see you on the boards.
Gotta run - Sarah's crying for me.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 28, 2005, 20:07:24 pm
me again. Micky, little Jack is sooooo cute!
And about the caulk, I have a funny story for you guys :lol: Dh was at my parents house putting up their crown molding and he was having trouble caulking the seams, it was all gooey and kept running all over the place instead of drying. So my mom asks him, "ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR CAULK GETTING HARD?" I kid you not she said that!!! :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: Art just said, no no, no problems here! Very weird and a little creepy, but my mom I really don't thinke she meant for it to come out like that!
Anyhow, so now that our nights are great, Taylor is doing a lot of 45 minute naps! :evil: I am working with tweakign her A time in hopes of that helping, but there is no way in hell that we can extend her naps.
:?: Do any of you have success extending naps now that they are older and more aware?
BTW, Becca what is a divorce party? Did I miss something?
Traci had asked for the Ferber article so thought I'd post for anyone interested.
Also, I do still need to do the PU/PD cheat sheet since it is so fresh in my mind! I will work on that tonight and try to get it to you guys tomorrow
TTFN!
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 28, 2005, 21:10:00 pm
If anyone has time will you read my Sophie sub plans for my friend Amy?? And tell me if there is anything weird/confusing...or anything that you would say that i might have missed?
Thanks!
Hannah
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 28, 2005, 21:28:47 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 28, 2005, 21:34:34 pm
Hannah
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 28, 2005, 21:41:28 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 28, 2005, 21:46:03 pm
Thanks Again. I really appreciate you taking the time to read that!
Hannah
Post by: becca24 on November 28, 2005, 23:15:39 pm
:?: For those of you who's lo's are sleeping through the night, do they do so every night?? Or do you have a few nights of each. What I mean is Halle will sleep through for a few nights, then a few nights of waking (usually once) sometimes twice. I am not complaining BTW. I'm just checking if this is normal (whatever that is :? :? )
OK a little vent or whatever, just wondering what you guys think of this - Lately, I have been feeling very guilty about the way I used to be before I had Halle. It's hard to explain but I used to think people with babies and/or pregnant people were sooooo boring. :oops: I would even get cranky/upset with my friends who didn't want to go out with me. When asked were someone was, I would say 'off doing family stuff' and then laugh :oops: Now, all I really want to do is family stuff!!!. It's not that I didn't care about my friends lo's, but I would never ask about them. As far as breastfeeding I was not interested in that either. I thought once a baby got teeth and was walking they should no longer be breastfeed, I was still saying this when I was pregnant. Now I have done a complete turn around and am not even thinking about weaning Halle just yet. I know my friends knew that I would change once I had my own, but I still feel terrible for being that way before. Sorry everyone but I had to tell someone. Thanks for reading if you got this far :)
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 28, 2005, 23:18:33 pm
Andrea... your Thanksgiving weekend sounds like it was BUSY!
Micky... cute picture of Jackson! He looks like he enjoys it, even though it is sans water!
Well... I went to the drop-in this morning and apparently, I am supposed to start brushing Arwyn's teeth with fluoride toothpaste twice a day. I have been brushing twice a day but no toothpaste. I really don't want to use the funky flavoured stuff... anybody else using toothpaste with their los?
Well... our nights are not getting any better. Arwyn is waking 3-4 times a night and I have been nursing her. :oops: This has cut down on the crazy multiple wakings but has made me feel extremely guilty. This has been going on for 2 weeks now. I am bracing for pu/pd this week as DH's crazy schedule has returned to normal and I will have a little help.
Jenean... how is it going?
Naomi... how was your first day?
TTFN
Post by: james030405 on November 28, 2005, 23:25:23 pm
We have been doing a new routine for the last week and so far so good. We have been having a morning bottle with breakfast and midmorning bottle at lunch. so our routine looks like this:
7am - bottle/breakfast
9am - nap
10:30am - water and maybe a piece of fruit
11:30am - bottle/lunch
1:30pm - nap
3pm - bottle
5pm - dinner
5:30pm - bath
6:30pm - bottle
6:45-7- bed
I have actually been using a sippy cup instead of a bottle for his breakfast and lunch feeds. So we only have 2 bottles per day. :D Is anyone else doing solids and milk at same time and also how many bottles is everyone still on? I am not sure when to drop that 3pm bottle. :?
ANyway, I will introduce myself again as it is a new thread. I am Lisa, 32 (33 on the 12th December) and have been with my DH, 33 (34 on Christmas Eve) for nearly 6yrs (known each other for nearly 14). We have 1 dog who is 10yrs old and James is our first child. DH is a cabinetmaker and I am a medical secretary. Not sure if I am going back to work yet or not, will have to see. I am enjoying being a SAHM :wink: .
I haven't read all the 7 pages yet, so I hope everyone is doing okay. NOt many sleeps till Christmas. I personally LOVE Christmas. :D
Chat soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Post by: mickymuscles on November 28, 2005, 23:26:11 pm
As for being able to extend naps.....doesn't work really here anymore. I had to get him to take alonger nap yesterday. He slept for 30 min....cried with pu/pd for an 1 1/2 hours then finally fell asleep again for another 45 min. :roll: I doubt I'll do that very often....too hard on him and me!!
Post by: Colesmom on November 28, 2005, 23:26:16 pm
Hannah-that plan is GREAT. Nice job putting it together without sounding like a BW fanatic but just a caring and concerned mommy :D
Micky-so love the pic of Jackson, can't wait to show DH when he gets home. What a little trooper.
Roz-totally hear you on the procrastination and lists issue with DH. Mine is getting better though. He's realizing how valuable our time is now with Cole.
Judy-ah Judy, thank you so much for taking the time to keep me sane on Friday and again today. I was just thinking this afternoon when I read about Andrea going cold turkey on the DF that maybe I should try it too. I mean, could I really have a worse night than last night-doubtful! No sense in having to do this all over again in a month. I did read Weissbluth today and he said if the baby goes right back to sleep after a night feed then it's not an issue, but if they want to play it is...so I was going to keep it. You've given me the courage to charge forward :D
Holly-thank you so much for your kind words over the thread and the phone. So much appreciated.
Cathy-can't believe I didn't even send you (((hugs))). I was so wallowing in my own misery this morning that I couldn't think straight.
Okay girls-here is how the rest of my day went.
After holding him to sleep for nap 1 and extending it by holding him and sleeping with him I was resolved that something had to change. I pulled out my Weissbluth book and it motivated me to stop holding Cole. I have to remember that I'm not MAKING him cry, I'm LETTING him cry to get out frustration that I'm doing something different.
On to nap #2. Did a longer windown, went for a brief walk outside, read a book. Think this might help. I'd been slacking in the windown dept. lately. I then did the usual singing, putting on of Grobag. He had been up about 2:40 at this point. I layed him in the crib on his side and rather than let go and have him stand up I held his leg firmly and said over and over, time for sleep, it's okay, time for sleep. He would cry, but not scream and I kept saying it. He'd reach for my hand to suck and I wouldn't let him pull it away. When he'd cry harder I'd do a couple of pupds and continue on. It took 30 min. but he went to sleep by himself. YAY! Of course, it ended up being a 30 min. nap. rats. I tried to extend for 20 min. and by that time it was feed time. I totally expected to fall asleep on the boob but he didn't.
Judy, Bec and Andrea-thanks for giving me the courage to extend A time, drop catnap. It helped that his nap ended at 2pm. We went over to a friends place at 3:30 to pick up some stuff. Her mom was there who watches her 2 year old. So we played with him for an hour. Then home for dinner, bath, feed, book and bed.
Same process as nap 2 except he was out cold in...........drum roll please................TWO MINUTES FLAT!!
He went down at 5:45, earlier than I'd wanted but given no catnap I figured that's good. I'll gradually stretch him to 6pm over a couple of weeks. And once I extend naps and get better night sleep I think we'll be all set. He's past the 30 min. mark...was expected some kind of noise being he's very tired but nothing so far. woopee!
PHEW. Sorry for my pity post this morning. I was just so exhausted.
gosh, hope I didn't miss anyone. gotta go straighten this place out. what a disaster it becomes when you have to sleep when they sleep.
Post by: kate585 on November 28, 2005, 23:35:55 pm
Hayley...what a cutie your Little Bear is!!! That first one would be a great xmas card shot, if you do that.
Okay, I just looked back down to check something and I have apparently missed a few pages? Sorry if something big has happened and I look like a jerk for not responding!!! I'll have to go back and read to catch up. I didn't refresh my browser, I guess.
On that note, I'll sign off with a few pics of my darling boy. One is him with his Santa hat. We got an adorable one, but I'll save that for the cards. :wink: The other one is one of the pics I took of him in the tub the night before Hannah posted the SAME shots of Sophie. How weird is that? Anyway, I've gotta go get reading. Later, my ladies!
Post by: james030405 on November 28, 2005, 23:41:23 pm
Traci, I am sorry you are having a bad time with Cole. It makes it hard when they all of a sudden change. I find in the afternoon James is awake from about 2:30pm - 3pm until 6:45pm. It makes dinner a bit hard as he is getting tired and sometimes I usually go for a walk around 4:30pm just so he can wind down a bit. If he falls asleep that is okay. Bedtime will get later for you, but your doing a great job and you will get there. :D
Thanks (I am not sure who it was) who wrote about toothpast. Our kids toothpast here says not to do it before 1 so I have been just using water and a toothbrush (James has 6 teeth).
Sorry, if I haven't answered everyone. :oops: This thread moves so fast.......... :roll:
Chat soon and hugs to everyone
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 29, 2005, 00:21:19 am
Night wakings - yep Danielle will sleep through for a week or so and then go back to one waking a night anywhere from 1-4am. I have just started to try and resettle her the first time for a few minutes, but often end up just feeding. I know she doesn't need it since she's on 3 good meals a day and 4 breastfeeds.
Post by: Jayri on November 29, 2005, 00:32:34 am
My first day was fine, a little overwhelming tho. I was doing good this morning with the whole leaving the kids until Jay walked up and told me he loved me.
It was quite neat, we are training for the first three weeks, we spent most of the day on a conference call with montreal and toronto.
There is soooo much stuff to take in, a little too much at the moment, but I will do my best to trudge thro it and make it in the end.
I will try and write more tomorrow for you fine ladies, but I am positively knackered and I had work to finish at home, plus I have to go and find my note I did on us and canadian airport codes as well as us and canadian geography.
Phew....they say it will get easier, it probably will, I am just a little freaked out as I haven't done any of this stuff in 5yrs.
Janean is going to try to put a pic up of me tomorrow for you all, we both remembered this am when I had already left...duh!!!!
TTFNMFL
Thank you once again for all of you being so awesome, it really helped.
Oh traci, how is that list going!!!
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 00:55:56 am
I'm really surprised by some of the breastfeeding comments people are getting - especially Ankie! I've never had anyone ask why I haven't weaned yet and in fact if anything many people have given a 'good for you' for still doing it. Hmmm
Traci - good luck girl... On the plus side - just as you said, not like you could get a whole lot LESS sleep so why not give it a whirl eh?
As for toothpaste I was under the impression no flouride until they were 5 or so and could spit the toothpaste out. We give the older girls that toddler/first steps toothpaste (deja vu - have I already typed this? Or was I talking to someone about it in person?? Not sure :oops: ). All they do is suck it off straight away. Actually for a few nights Zoe's been using it to actually brush with which is a bit of a start. I accidentally put it on my toothbrush recently - BLECK!!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 29, 2005, 02:22:57 am
You guys have been busy! I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I'm sorry, I can't take the time to catch up on everyone's life. Just wanted to jump back on and say "hi!" and brag on my little girl. She did GREAT traveling, considering she was completely off-schedule most of the time. She took fairly good naps, considering, and slept great at night. She was so much fun and the whole family loved having her around. It makes me look forward to traveling at Xmas.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Later!
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 02:24:16 am
Cole woke twice around the hour mark but settled back well. I have just settled him twice around the time he would normally feed. One pupd and some handholding and he's asleep :D My Q-how long do your los go without feeding? 10,11,12 hours? What is a reasonable expectation for the first night not doing the dreamfeed? Should I do pupd until wakeup time? He last fed at 5:25 and was down by 5:50 for sleep.
Thanks
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 29, 2005, 02:33:29 am
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 02:43:37 am
Post by: becca24 on November 29, 2005, 02:59:09 am
Right now I am supposed to be at my Great Aunts Funeral. Halle thought today would be a good day to refuse all breasfeeds and cry non-stop for an hour right when I plan to get ready. Eventually I got her to take a bf then some yogurt. Phew!! So after a 45nap this morning she is asleep now and I am not waking her. I rang my Mum to see if she was ready so she could come down and help me get ready. As usual she is too concerned about the way she looks and was stressing out about it. She said to me "I can't help you, my hair is wet" :twisted: :twisted: THEN about 15mins later my auntie rings "I am at your mothers, she does not know what to wear and wants you to come and help her" my reply - ^$#%&*&^ &*^%%((**&^ _(*&&%%$ 8^^% ^&%^* #@%%% ^%$$#$$%^ $#@!#$%^&^ &&^$##@ &^% @#$% #%%^ %##%%&* %##%^&*(( &%$$%^*((9 :evil: :roll: I get Halle asleep and try to get dressed for when she wakes up. I have one wardrobe with casual clothes and another with formal stuff and work clothes. So I go to get some funeral-appropriate clothes out of the work wardrobe and there is a SPIDER hanging in there !!!! It gets on my arm so then I scream and flick it off. Of course now I don't know where it is so I am not going back in there. THEN I go to put some make-up on and DROP the stuff all over the floor and it shatters into about ten thousand pieces !!! Finally I am ready and sitting here waiting for Halle to wake up so I can dress her and go. Hopefully she won't be long so I can stand out the front and pretend I had been there the whole time :roll:
Don't worry I am not being insensitive, If there is such thing as heaven my great-aunt would be up there laughing at me right now because she know how crazy I am :lol: :lol:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 29, 2005, 03:14:36 am
Traci... sorry to hear that Cole (and you) are having a hard time right now. Don't worry, your great little sleeper will be back. About the cold turkey DF... I think you will be able to tell if Cole can do it. If you think that 12 hours is too long for him, trust your instincts. I usually judge on whether Arwyn had a good feed at the last BF... then I judge when next to feed her. I can tell if she is hungry because if I put her back to sleep and then after 30 min. she wakes up again (twice -- I put her back down again to see if she will wake again) and then I will usually chalk it up to hunger. I hope this isn't too confusing.
Judy... I also get "good for you" comments but they are not from my circle of friends who have children. They are mostly from people who believe in BFing (or so I would assume). Even a close friend of mine, whom when I shared with her that Arwyn was biting me, suggested that I switch to formula straight away. It would have been an okay suggestion but Arwyn won't take a bottle. :roll:
Bec... just saw your post... Mothers, huh? :roll: (One day, we'll be joining those ranks, too. :wink: ) Good for you for seeing your Great-aunt's point of view. I hope Halle does okay today.
Hmm... toothpaste. I guess the advice is different for different parts of the country and world. Our water doesn't have fluoride in it. Could this be why I need to start brushing with fluoride toothpaste?
Well... we are having a cranky day. It took me 30 minutes to put her down and it never takes that long. Anyhow... I am preparing for a pu/pd night. I am thinking that nursing at night is making Arwyn not interested in her BFs during the day (especially the 11 & 3).
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 03:36:15 am
Traci - hope the rest of your night goes well. I honestly would think that Cole should be able to do the whole 12hours... but whether you and he are comfy doing that straight away in one night is up to you both. As Ankie said - I think you'll know, or rather he'll let you know ;). Kaia and Hannah went the whole night right off after that - although they still aren't getting quite the whole 12 hours - about 11hrs right now. They aren't waking starving and demanding food though - just awake and I'm not interested in doing anything but nurse at that time. :roll: I have to say though - those first few nights with 2feedings suddenly gone - well I was SO full that first night I rolled over to my side and got stuck on those huge boobs that then proceeded to leak from the pressure! LOL
Can't wait to hear how the night goes.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 29, 2005, 03:46:28 am
Ankie--did you figure out the reason for Arwyn's wakings? Was it related to dropping the DF?
Bec--I'm so sorry to hear about your rough time...sometimes I think it would be nice to have family close, but I guess it's not always what it's cracked up to be, huh?
Post by: kq on November 29, 2005, 03:54:05 am
Cute pics everyone!
Comments on BF, I have mainly gotten positive comments except from my family and chinese friends. ANKIE, it is cultural here as well for New Zealand Chinese to bottle feed even if it is EBM. Wierd!!! :roll:
Traci and Cathy, sorry to hear about your nights.. Cathy, the screaming you had does sound like it may be teeth.
Flouride toothpaste-I just ran upstairs to check and the packet says that I should only use it when they are able to spit. What is everyone doing? I am only using water on his 2 teeth at the mo.
Glad to hear that your first day was good, Naomi! I remember mine and I bawled in my car all the way to work! :oops:
Ahhh friends with no babies and comments...I just let it wash over me now. To try and explain will be too difficult. When Sam was 6 weeks old, my friends wanted to know if I had been out for an evening without him yet and that I really should start doing that. At 8 weeks, my sister commented that he should be sleeping through the night. She is childless but had read Babywise!
Night sleep is good here but Sam occasionally stirs in the night (about one every 3 or 4) and either requires a few pats or he settles himself.
Naps, that is another story. We are only totalling about 2 hours at the mo with at least one 45 minute nap. Am trying to tweak A times like Andrea. Still having catnap here.
Must dash little man awake from catnap.
Karen
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 29, 2005, 04:11:34 am
I need your opinions. I don't know why I am second guessing myself about this but I need some validation. These multiple wakings are causing me to be very tired (obviously) and I have resorted to nursing her back to sleep because it is easier. She goes straight back to la la land and there is not a minute of awake time there. What should I be doing to get rid of this habit? I suspect she doesn't need the nutrition but the comfort... we have major separation anxiety happening too. So, my question is... how have you all dealt with multiple wakings and how long did it last? We are fast approaching 2 months now and I need it to pass, sooner than later.
Sorry guys, I needed to vent and oh... guess who's up?
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 29, 2005, 05:24:14 am
Ankie, I guess this is where pu/pd is probably your best option, I'm not very clued up on that, so hopefully some of the other girls going through it would be better at helping. I try and resettle Danielle with a bit of repositioning, retucking and patting - sometimes it works and others not. Sorry I'm not much help. :roll:
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 29, 2005, 05:43:53 am
Becca-you're thoughts about baby sound just like me and I'm afraid to say that I was gulity of saying many of them before and while I was pregnant! :shock: Especially about the stopping bf when they get teeth. I apologized to my sister after I found out the real deal and was afraid I may have hurt her feelings at the time.
regarding the night wakings and sleeping through the night questiosn that Bec and Ankie asked about:
When Taylor was sleeping very well through the night from months 3-5, she did definitely do the odd wakings every 4-5 days. (she would sleep from 7ish, sleep through her df, then wake up at 7-7:30 am! :D )So to me it wasn't a big deal and me or dh would go in and pat her back to sleep. No feeding ever involved so I guess we were lucky.
Starting around 5 months till last week she starated having many more night wakings. First it started with the 5 am wake up which was so annoying and that lasted off and on for about a month. Also at 5 months she started waking up for her df, at first just every few days and then it grew into EVERY NIGHT! Then she started the 6 am wake up thing around 6 months and would not go back down until I fed, so I did since it was already 6 am and that has lasted till about a week ago.
Then around 6.5 months she started multiple night wakings where she would wake at 10 for her df, then around 3, then at 6. I know it was still not terrible, but knowing how well she could do it was so irritating.
:arrow: Which leads us to our decision to drop the df cold turkey in hopes that we would have our nights back, and it seems to have worked!
So Ankie, I guess we had a rough 2 months where the nights were quite unpredictable. We were lucky in the sense that it didn't take much longer than 15 minutes to ever get her back to sleep, but they were night wakings which she needed our help to get back to sleep nevertheless.
I really think dropping the df is what helped us, but who really knows?
Traci-Taylor now goes 11-12 hours w/o a feed :shock: Sounds crazy, but she's doing it. The first few nights of dropping df cold turkey I had a rule in my head of not feeding her until at least 3 am if she woke up (which was about 8 hours since her last feed). But I actually never had to feed her because she would do most of her wakings from 9:30-2 am'ish. Once she got past that time frame she would sleep the rest of the stretch. So to answer your question, from the first day we dropped the df she started going 11-12 hours.
HTH and good luck!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 29, 2005, 07:48:37 am
Hannah - good notes, they will be a good reference point I'm sure.
Bec - yes, Daniel wakes every so often, just a quick pick up, cuddle to quieten then put down and off to sleep again. Not so long ago this wasn't the case and only a feed would do. If you're feeling guilty/down about things you may have said to people before you had Halle, perhaps you could have your friend over for a coffee (or go out) and tell her how you feel now. I had a similar situation with a very good friend and I felt a lot better after I said something. She was fine about it in the first place, but I felt at least I'd apologised. And I really hope your day tomorrow is better. I thought I was having a bad day until I read about yours. :cry: Here's a :D for tomorrow.
Traci - how long is Cole's awake time now? Perhaps he's trying to tell you he can be awake longer between naps. Daniel is nearly 3 hours between his now and awake around 4-5 hours for the last stretch now. I know when Daniel was doing his major meltdowns in the morning once I kept him up longer he suddenly improved.
Kate - I love the photos of Ryan.
Micky - Jack looks great, how much longer in the casts?
Naomi - well done on getting thru the first day. I bet you'll never forget Jayson's parting words as you left on your big work adventure. Look forward to seeing the photos.
Andrea - how did Taylor change her early waking habits? By herself or did you somehow assist? I'm considering trying Wake 2 Sleep again for Daniel's 5.42am waking.
We've had a grizzly day again. I'm hoping there's an end to this soon. I think it's frustration with not being able to crawl forward, he's moving backwards though, cold lurking still, t@@th or lack of trying to break free, and missing daddy/sick of mummy! To top it off, our day started with my cat bringing in a bird and the bird surviving after I got rid of our cat. I don't like dealing with little critters and was quite sqirmy about the whole saving the bird process. Then when I did eventually let him free after making sure he was okay in a box for an hour or so first, I told my mum and she said I should have made sure he could fly, not just hop into a bush. Thanks for the support mum.
RANT: Oh, and then she started telling me about some radio programme she'd just heard about kids in daycare and how bad it is for them..Blah blah blah, she tells me this all the time. Well, I've told her I'm going back to work part time (about 10hours a week) when Daniel's 1yr and we don't have any choice as she's not here to look after him. And I don't mind him being in it for a few hours a week. I will look into other options, but we can't afford a nanny, so there's not many other options out there. GGGGGrrrrrr, she makes me so mad how she goes on. :evil: She keeps saying she won't watch/listen to the day care stories, but she continues to do so and then tell me about them. Of course, she doesn't listen to the ones with good things to say!
Anyway, enough of that. Onto happier last comments, I started my Christmas shopping today and got the hardest ones out the way. (nieces and nephew and mum). And Daniel was an angel the whole shopping trip, including our time in the supermarket.
Post by: Erin M on November 29, 2005, 11:32:27 am
LONG POST ALERT!!
I think (fingers crossed) we are on the road to recovery around here. I took Katie back to the doctor yesterday morning to find out she has ear infections in both ears. So yesterday was a very unhappy day. Poor kid has now officially had Motrin almost round the clock since Thursday - the ped said not to worry about it, but that she should be fine without it by today. I gave it to her once more at 9PM last night (woke her up to do it!) and she's still asleep - and it's 6:15!! Hooray! Of course, I caught her cold and can't sleep at all, so here I am, typing away. I hope she naps today so I can catch up on some sleep. The first time Katie doesn't wake up multiple times in two weeks, and I can't sleep. Go figure. Enough about us....
Micky, Hayley, Kate - I just LOVE the pictures. Micky - Jack seems to be in good spirits despite the giant casts on his legs! So cute! We're getting Christmas pictures done this weekend - can't wait to see how they come out. Oh and Micky, thanks for the info on breathing.
Hayley - most of the stuff I've heard says that daycare, especially part time isn't bad for kids. Katie is in daycare two days a week, and she LOVES it. She gets so excited when we walk in there. She loves seeing the other babies. Of course, I suspect she's gotten sick more often being there than if she was just home with me, but what can you do? They've got to catch the stuff sometime sooner or later.
Traci - Hope your day is better today. I was planning on sending a thank you note to my ped - just can't think of what exactly to write. Maybe I'll work on that today. Oh, and Katie can go something like 12 hours at night without eating. Honestly, I didn't even notice a huge difference in her morning appetite after dropping the DF, though I thought I would.
Bec - Hope your day is better too - sounds like a rough couple of hours.
Judy/Jody - A friend of mine just found out she is pregnant with twins. Any advice to pass on? And Judy - if you don't mind, could you send me the link to your nusing pillow that you use. I don't know what her plans are regarding feeding, but I was thinking I would forward it just in case.
Ankie - Sorry your nights have been miserable. Katie's nightwakings are usually due to something developmental or sickness so they tend to sort themselves out after about a week. Sorry to not be of more help. And regarding BF, you do what is right for you and not worry. In the long run, it's just you and Arwyn that matter the most and if you're both happy with continuing to BF, then do it.
Karen - shift work must be really hard, trying to get enough sleep. I know what you mean about not wanting to miss anything some days! Your story about your friend wanting you to go out when Sam was 6 weeks made me laugh. My cousin and his wife have been known to take their LO out when she was not that old and put her infant seat on the bar stool. Mostly, the rest of the family doesn't quite understand them. Seems like they had kids just because it's something they're "supposed" to do, KWIM? She's pregnant again and due in May. She said she planned in that way so she doesn't "ruin" either of her summers (the one before getting pregnant and the one after the baby is born) by being pregnant. Somehow, having the motivation to go out nightly when you have a newborn is beyond me. I guess you just hire someone to watch him/her so you can sleep or whatever. Like I said, not really something the rest of the family understands.
Tooth brushing - I don't do it, but I guess I really should, since Katie has six teeth (with two more on the way). The doctor prescribed us vitamin drops with flouride in them, so she said that takes care of flouride for us.
Enough of my ramblings, it's 6:30 and Katie is still asleep. Hooray! The Motrin should have worn off by now, so maybe (fingers crossed) she's feeling better. Oh, she just coughed....but it's quiet again. :D
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 12:08:02 pm
Erin how cool your friend is having twins. My goodness, no kidding it's a HECKof a lot of work. My girls are very much mommy's girls and LOVE to be cuddled and held as much as possible, AND prefer to be at home too... so it's been a really tiring 7months. But so worth it of course. (hey! They like being in the van finally!)
Oh gotta come back to this sorry - Kaia just threw up a bunch of her feed all over us. Thankfully Hannah is dry...(and still feeding :roll: )
Post by: Richelle on November 29, 2005, 13:15:07 pm
LONG POST WARNING
It has been awhile since I posted, we have been crazy busy over here and there is no end in site. The IL's left on Sunday night *collective sigh of relief*, lovely people but I have so much going on and they see my nephew (their perfect daughter's perfect son) alot more so it is Jack this and Jack that, oh Jack Jack Blah de Blah! They also think I am crazy to have a baby on a schedule ect ect but thankfully save their comments for after I have left the room :roll: , well I have a well rested and very happy baby who has a well rested and very happy mommy, is all I have to say. My SIL is still sleep deprived with Jack who is 14 months and has never taken a nap in his crib.
I am about half finished packing the house and half finished packing for our trip (leaving tomorrow - OMG) which I am getting increasingly anxious about...DH bought a portable DVD for her einsteins :oops: :D ! I'm sure we will be OK but the flights to get there are at weird times, I hope she adjusts OK, not to mention the cold once we get there!
Oh and I am now officially a SAHM! What a great feeling!
Erin - I am so glad that Katie is feeling better. I have done the night time trip to the ER with Sophie and spent the night, I know how scary it can be and our ped. also saved my sanity/the day. I gave her a little thankyou post card with Sophie's picture on it - very easy to do on the comp. I hope you feel better soon.
Traci - Sophie always goes to bed around 7 and she goes 12 hours without food no problem. I used to expect her to be ravenous in the morning but she isn't, just plays while I get breakfast and COFFEE ready. I think that Judy gave you great advice but also trust your judgement you are afterall Cole's Mommy!
Bec - ROTFLMAO, I know I shouldn't laugh but what I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in your house! I hope the day got better and I imagine that Halle was a star! I know exactly what you mean about things that you said before having a baby and being pregnant. Friends of mine who say stupid things to me just get told to stuff it, they have no clue.
Ankie - I know Arwyn will get past this and IMHO, you can tell ME to shove it if you like, I think that she can make it through without a feed, like i said please disregard if you find me over the line! I also think that it is wonderful that you are BFing and have gotten opposite comments when Sophie stopped at 4 months, people telling me I should have kept trying or at least pumped if she would only take a bottle. One of my friends (sans baby) went so far as to say that the day Sophie gets cancer I will regret switching to formula :shock: :shock: :twisted: , needless to say she got told to #$@^%$R&^*&^^*&(@! I actually gave her a real good 'what for' and she said that she never realized that making random comments on other peoples children was a big deal :shock: :roll: !
Micky - Jack is sooo cute, in the new avatar and his bath picture. Also ROTFLMAO at the caulk debate!! I would say it straight out and see how it goes over probably get a good laugh!
Kate - Ryan is so flippin' cute as well, what a sweet tooshie!
Hayley - Daniel is adorable - what a great xmas card that would make. Don't mother's just know it all. If you are comfortable and confident in what you are doing she will catch on!
Karen - Kudos to you and shift work! My god you must be beat! I know what you mean about being left out though. I hope you have some rest in your not too distant future. I still don't leave Sophie at night and she is sleeping and hasn't woken up in the night in 2 months, different strokes I guess.
Judy LOL at getting stuck on your big bubbies - I had a picture in my head of a turtle stuck on it's back!!
Hannah - Very good notes, very nice! I am opposite and very bossy when it comes to Sophie, one of the reason's I think that MIL gets a little put off. Is your friend doing this as a favour?
Naomi - YEAHHH on your big successful first day!! I can't wait to see pic's!
Cathy - It does sound like teeth, this to shall pass!
Phew must go get packing!
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 13:21:37 pm
Other than that... hmmmm, start buying diapers EARLY!!! You go through LOTS :)
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 13:27:01 pm
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 29, 2005, 13:53:08 pm
About the dreamfeed ... we actually never did the dream feed. In the beginning we did do cluster feeding though. Also, at 2 weeks of age (when Carter started going 6-7 hour stretches at night) I started pumping every morning and giving him whatever I pumped before he went to bed along with bf. So, I just kept up the pumping every morning and giving the bottle at night. Now I don't know how to get rid of it!!! The pumping is a pain in the butt because my motor broke so I have to use the hand pump. But, I honestly think that the extra milk at night is what got him sleeping 10 hr stretches by 8 weeks of age. Back then he would only get an extra 2 ounces where as now I give him 3-4 before the bf. DH always gives the bottle which he really likes to do. I guess I could just start giving cereal at night instead but I like having the extra milk stored in the freezer too! I can't wait until the pumping days are over!!!! Actually the last 2 horrible nights of nightwakings were nights that I hadn't been able to pump in the morning so Carter got thawed bm instead ... I wonder if that has anything to do with his crazy night wakings. Looking back in my journal, the last 2 other times he had thawed bm he woke multiple times in the night (approx 4 hours after his bottle). Maybe the breast milk went bad ?????!!! Hope not, then I would definitely feel like a bad mother.
Traci: Carter goes 10.5-11hrs tops without a feed. I really hope Cole starts sleeping better for you!!! I know how discouraging it can be. I hope Carter gets back on track as well.
Naomi: I'm glad you had a good first day at work. It must have been so hard to go back. I have to go back in about 3 months and I am not looking forward to it at all :(
Erin: So glad to hear that Katie is feeling better. I can't imagine anything worse than your baby being sick!!
As for friends making unnecessary baby comments ... I find it is usually family members that do it!! I also hate how they don't listen to what you say about your own baby. In August we put a new roof on our house and there were lots of relatives here helping. Anyway, Carter's room is right across the hallway from the bathroom so I told everyone that when they shower please don't slam the bathroom door as it will wake up my baby. Well, just about everyone slammed the door, banged stuff around, yelled out the door "Where's the towels" and one Uncle even opened his bedroom door and went in because he wanted to say hi :shock: !!!! It was 10:00pm!!!!! The other thing they all wanted to do (DH's dad was the worst) was give Carter coffee!! I kept telling everyone no but every time I turned around there they were trying to get him to take a spoonful!! The real kicker is that he is allergic to milk and eggs and there was milk in the coffee. Needless to say I ended up with a baby with an extremely puffy face and I almost had to break out the epi-pens :shock: ! After that Carter was off limits to everyone. I got alot of slack for that "c'mon we live far away and never get to see him" Well then stop trying to kill him you idiots!!!! :evil:
Anyway, sorry for the long jumbled post. It is breakfast time as Carter is starting to fuss. I have some questions about solid foods but will save them for another time!!
TTYL
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 29, 2005, 15:17:43 pm
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 15:56:21 pm
Her and I get along just fine - but she's learned that I'm VERY outspoken when it comes to my kids.
I just don't get why people would want to give babies things like icecream and coffee and soda??? It's crap food for adults (but yummy yes! :wink:) why on earth would you give it to babies??
As for breastfeeding - I do find that other women with young children or babies who have finished breastfeeding (or didn't) are the first to encourage one to stop. I wonder often if it's a guilt thing??? I just think people should do whatever works for THEM and not feel bad about it, and not concern themselves with other's choices (unless it's dangerous/life threatening etc.)
Post by: mickymuscles on November 29, 2005, 16:28:49 pm
so many funny stories....I can't remember any of them already :roll: but very funny!! Oh....where oh where has my memory gone....where oh where can it be???
Traci: Jack goes 12-13 hours without feeding and is totally fine in the am.
BF comments :x My one girlfriend (no kids) said she is only going to BF for 8 weeks then that's it....she doesn't want her boobs to get any bigger!!! :shock: :roll: ROTFLMAO!!!!! Well...I had a few comments for her that was for sure!!! WHY BOTHER!!???!!!
Richelle-Great idea about the portable DVD player...maybe we will have to go and invest in one for our trip to Cali.
I called about a caulking problem.....and did just say it straight up just to see if I'd get a reaction (my kind of humor to hannah)....but nothing! Such a let down. But I'm sure those guys get caulk jokes all the time! :D I can't remember who had the other caulk story about it being all runny....I was killing myself laughing!!!!! That is hilarious! :lol:
Jack still does need settling every now and again in the middle of the night. Usually only once every 3-4 days. He does cry out probably every night for the first few 45 min cycles but he can usually resettle himself.
21 more days until the casts are off!!!!! YIPPY!!!!!! The count down has begun!!!!
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 16:33:22 pm
Huge hugs to Bec (and a bit of a laugh too-i HATE spiders), Richelle (you will get through the trip and your great little sleeper will do just fine), Ankie (I really think you need to stay consistent with whatever it is you choose to do)
Okay-my poor memory, that is all i remember :?
I'll have to post back about our night, but it was NOT good. multiple wakings in the first 1.5 hours and I caved and fed at 10:30 then he was up until midnight, up every hour until 3, slept til 4:30, up until 5:30, slept until 6, fell asleep on the boob. etc etc etc :shock: :shock: :shock:
After reading everyones posts today I'll try again tonight with renewed confidence, esp. seeing Taylor woke more at the start of the night. All I was thinking was - this is when he usually has his best sleep!
On a positive note, I extended his 45 min. nap this morning to 1.5 hours.
OH-he stopped complaining in the saucer so I can explain more.
When he was waking b/w 9 and 10 pm he settled fine the first few times. Then he wasn't crying, just didn't want to sleep. Kept squiggling around and reaching out to hold my hand. Then he starting practicing his clapping, and his "dada" (first time he said that!).
okay, he's done in the saucer and it's lunch time. more later girlies
OH-the list went out last night. (You'd think you'd be too busy naomi :wink: ) Please review your info and let me know of any errors/omissions. I got Macaire's this morning. Will amend the sheet and send again.
It is POURING rain and yucky out here. Likely an afternoon at the mall for us.
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 29, 2005, 16:36:13 pm
Here it goes:
Cathy- I feel for you and the "unexplained" bad night with Carter... BOTH girls on Monday noght decided to get up every 1-1.5 hours... it was worse than when they were born... Dh and I were stumped!! Then last night back to the norm- slept til 7am!
Hannah- we have switched the girls formula a few times (mostly when they were a few months old though). We recvd so many free samples (Judy should understand!).. with twins they send you 2x the samples! So we had 12 cans of power- all different types... we used them up and no problems. We now use Enfalac with Iron.. cheap and the girls have never had an issue with it!
Micky- Jackson looks so amazing! So happy , not a care in the world! He is beautiful casts and all!
I am going to go to WEM by MYSELF sometime this week ( we have a wedding in Jasper on the weekend- need an outfit, possibly some "night wear" :wink: ) .. if you want to come you are more than welcome! ( Jackson is welcome of course!)
Bec- The girls have slept through off and on (depends on the teeth and colds) for about 2 months... 730pm-7am. They are very inconsistant though. Teeth messes them up and they will wake for about 10 min at 2-3 am. They need some meds and then they sleep again (homeopathic stuff at night). Colds... well they wake once or twice for a few mins then doze back off... Sometimes I have the 5am waking prob. I give them 2 oz then put them back to bed... enough to get them through til 7 and they are still hungry for breaky.
okay here is my lovely MIL for ya.... She cried on the phone to my Dh a few weeks ago about not feeling welcome in our home ( she hadnt called in 4 months, and when she did she wanted to be invited to our house for thanksgiving- but my fam was coming and we had it planned for 2 months) She cried about how she wants to spend more time with the girls BLAH BLAH BLAH.... so Dh cancelled an xtra shift (worth $500 to us!!!!!) so she could come visit... so she was going to come on fri am. Dh calls at 9am (about the time she said she would leave- she is from 2 hrs away) SHE WAS STILL IN BED....complaining she worked until midnight.... Dh worked ALL night -5pm -7am, did not sleep (he's a paramedic) and stayed up all day to clean, get groceries and get the house ready. She showed up at 6pm- 1/2 hour before the girls bed time!..
Then the next am she didnt get up until 930- girls were already down for their nap. We spent the day together (it was like pulling teeth-really) then all the sudden at 11 pm the girls were fussy.. while dh and I went to check on them, She gathered her stuff and was waiting at the front door to leave by the time we were back down stairs. ... so she just left at 11pm... didnt really care to see her grand daughters in the am... she is LOOOOOONNIE!!!! I am starting to really really not like her...
Sorry had to vent- she is coo-coo, mean, selfish and doesnt even know the girls middle names... okay now that Im done that, off to my excercize class....
jod
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 29, 2005, 16:44:23 pm
Thanks Andrea for giving me hope. Arwyn is about 2 weeks younger than Taylor so hopefully... I will get to sleep soon.
Last night... HORRIBLE. Arwyn is sick so she can't breathe, poor thing. She woke at 8 and I put her back down. She then woke 3 times between 10:20 and 11 pm. I nursed her at 11:12 pm. I could hear that she was having a difficult time breathing & nursing. Anyways, she woke again at 1 something?? and could not be put down... I think that as soon as she was horizontal, she couldn't breathe. So... I HELD HER ALL NIGHT LONG! :shock: She could not be consoled, didn't want to nurse, for sure, didn't want to lay down in her crib. I tried and she cried for 20 minutes with me trying to comfort her. Also, she was awake from 3:20 - 4:40 at which time, I had WALKED her back to sleep. She wouldn't let me hold her AND lay down, because I guess she was horizontal again so... I catnapped all night long, SITTING UP!!!
She has NEVER been awake in the middle of the night, seemingly wide awake and not going back to sleep. Even with the crazy pu/pd sessions we have had, she has always had her eyes closed and didn't want to play or push off. Needless to say, I am right knackered and need a long winter's nap (got our first snowfall here).
I know, this too, shall pass... if it doesn't kill me first. I used to always say, "If it doesn't kill you, it will only make you stronger." I am now thinking, it probably doesn't apply to night wakings as I don't feel remotely stronger. :shock: If it were not for you ladies, I would feel a whole lot less confident and probably really depressed.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 29, 2005, 16:56:27 pm
I know I need to be more consistent about what I am doing to put her back to sleep but with the multiple wakings, it is hard, KWIM? If there are only 2 or 3 wakings, I usually nurse at one and pat & pu/pd at the other. However, if it was a night like last night (see previous post) or a night like yours, I don't have the resolve nor the strength of body and mind to do it. I am just mustering through the difficult times right now.
Anyhow... JODY... what's with that visit? Hardly worth her time or yours?
Micky... :cry: too bad there was no reaction. I guess if you're in the profession, it gets old really fast??
TTFN... Arwyn is whining in her walker. She has discovered the messy hallway bookshelf :roll: and walks over there and pulls stuff off.
Post by: mickymuscles on November 29, 2005, 17:06:45 pm
Jody-let me know when you are going. We are building a new house so I am going to be busy with appts at vendors picking colors, etc but I would love to come if it fits in to my chaos!! :D You'll have to bring a pic of your DH because I probably know him (him being a paramedic and me being a respiratory therapist----we see them all the time)! :D
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 29, 2005, 18:17:56 pm
I think I am going on Fri??
Where are you building a house? Dh and I are doing the same thing.. building in Lewis Estates.... We are at FRAMING!!! YEAHH!!!!
I will try and find a pick of Dh (Sean) and the girls...
jod
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 29, 2005, 18:23:01 pm
Our wedding day ... ahhh the memories!
( I met Dh when I was his waitress... at THIS table that is in the picture, when he was with his best bud (also the one at the table!))...
Jody
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 18:39:33 pm
oh goodness...30 minutes nap :?
Post by: solnme on November 29, 2005, 18:46:49 pm
Richelle - can I borrow your ILs? hee hee
Ankie - wow what a night. I'm sending vibes of strength to you. I think you're right about the toothpaste Ankie. I was told to give it to them because we don't have any in our water and only use childrens' paste cause it has a low amount of flouride. I think you asked me before if I was a teacher? I taught ESL for 6 years. I'm more of an educator/entertainer. I love to teach my students in a fun way and don't have the strong fire in the belly that most real teachers do. I guess that's way I like working with little kids. What grade do you teach?
Can't remember much today but it sounded like most people had rough nights. Sols started night wakings too. He was up every hour from 6:30 to 11:00 then up at least 3 times during the night. Won't let DH tend to him, only wants to stare at me for a few minutes.
He crawled yesterday at playgroup! Isn't it a too soon? He's only 7 months today!? I'm thinking maybe seperation anxiety is starting to creep in or maybe it's because he took one nap for a whole 45 min yesterday.
Post by: kq on November 29, 2005, 19:13:20 pm
Sam had multiple night wakings a while back which involved me sitting with him for up to 2 hours while he settled. Associated with that, he also woke at 4.30-5 am and would not settle back again. That seems to have settled down and he goes 6.30-6 am.
TRACI, his last feed is at 6pm. Feeding overnight affects his day appetite so I do not feed him and usually just sit with him and stroke his hair.
JODY, gorgeous pic! Your girls are sure going to be lookers judging by you and your dh.
TRACI, I forgot..congrats to you and dh. Passing an exam is usually testament to your support and having to do everything etc etc while dh checks out and just studies so well done to the both of you!
ERIN, OMG how scary is that ER visit? I work in an ER but could never imagine how scary it would be if it was Sam! Glad Katie is better.
HAYLEY, would have loved to catch up with you. Next time perhaps?
NIKKI, when did you start using the toothpaste on Nathan? Should I start now on old two-tooth?
Oh, oh, must run, Sam pulling on power cord and chewing on it.
Later,
Karen
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 29, 2005, 19:25:03 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 29, 2005, 19:37:04 pm
Hugs to Ankie and Traci and anyone else who is having rough nights.
Gorgeous pic Jody..and Hayley that Daniel, what a cutie!
Naomi, glad to hear the fist day went well. So cute of jayson to say I love you.
Micky...too bad no reaction to the caulk. Nice try though :)
Richelle (and anyone else who read it) thanks for reading my note/instructions for Sophie care. Amy is not doing it as a favor to me. I am paying her, well, i might add...but I guess I felt it was a favor because she doesn't generally do daycare for other kids? KWIM? I think that is going to be one of the biggest challengenes with the situation is striking a balance between her being my friend doing me a favor and her being my "employee" I hope I didn't sound overly flexible in my note...Funny...ME overly flexible :) Never thought I'd be describing myself that way :)
Lately, while playing, Sophie has been stopping (somewhat suddenly) and sort of getting really quiet and looking at me. It looks like she's discovering something or having a new thought she's never had before? Or I don't know?? Then she'll give me a really slow sweet smile. It's striking me as the sort of more grown up version of the doggie style head tilt :) Anyone else experiencing this type of thing.
BTW she is fully crawling now, but thankfully not very fast. :) And I can't remember who said it but we also have very grizzly days when she is mastering something. Like the crawling, especially by the end of the day she just wants to do it and do it and do it (she must take after her dad..hee hee) but she is tired and frustrated. Last night I found her on her knees in her crib sideways with her feet up in the bars. Coo-coo.
Sorry about the crazy MILs, moms...and spiders! I really hate spiders too Bec...can't stand em. MIL bought Sophie an outfit to wear for our xmas eve party...ugh. It's actually not that bad but I really didn't want her to wear a dress. I guess I am just feeling like dresses with tights must be sooo uncomfortable for her...but what do I know she'll probably love it. I bought her red overalls. I guess once a tom boy always a tom boy...even when dressing your daughter
:roll:
I know there is so much more but I've got to go get this lo some lunch. The truly obsessive compulsive person in me is rearing it's ugly head as I think about going back to work. I want systems and schedules for everything. Containers to put everything in, with labels on them of course. And I want to finish all my xmas shopping :)
OK ladies. Can't wait to read more about what's happening for everyone.
I am sending sleep vibes, get well vibes and safe travel vibes :)
TTFN
Hannah
Post by: Judy on November 29, 2005, 20:03:17 pm
Quote from: M&M'sMom
We recvd so many free samples (Judy should understand!).. with twins they send you 2x the samples! So we had 12 cans of power- all different types...
?? I've gotten a total of ONE can of formula sample and that was just last week!! It's Enfamil I think - I was online reading up on it a few months back. I have no plans to use it though sadly - I need to find someone around who could use it - no point letting it go to waste.
Ankie - do you put anything in Arwyn's nose when she's stuffy? I've tried the saline drops but find they don't work tremedously - AND I can't seem to get them IN the nose - moving targets and all. I use HydraSense nose spray for INFANTS. Works great and while still difficult to get in - at least it sprays in instead of slowly dropping and then landing on their lip! I mean are you supposed to hang them upside down and turn them around to get the drops IN the nostril? Like moving flour on a greased baking pan LOL Anyway, I got the spray at our Shopper's Drug Mart - just make sure you get the infant one as it also comes for children and adults. usually spray is too strong for babies so this is specific for them.
Post by: mickymuscles on November 29, 2005, 20:20:49 pm
Kelly(DH) and I are building in Rutherford Heights. I work at the Grey Nuns so I don't want to drive across the Quesnell anymore esp. during winter!!
Post by: mickymuscles on November 29, 2005, 20:27:02 pm
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 29, 2005, 21:27:12 pm
Hello - it's 10.10am and I'm sitting in my pj's having coffee and bagel and catching up with you girls when my neighbour drops in to say hi! She's the one with the little girl the same age as Daniel so totally understands the PJ bit. But man do I look a bedragled unshowered mess. Oh well.
We had another 5am start thismorning, so once he went down at 8.15am I went back to bed too. The 3 hour awake time seemed to have worked though cos Daniel's still asleep. Phew. I'm too scared to have a shower incase it wakes him as it's right beside his room.
I didn't need to do the w2sleep thing thismorning as Daniel woke me at 4.25am instead. Second waking for the night. I'm sure it's teeth as Pamol worked the first time and teething powder the 2nd. Then he woke again at 5am. :cry: So I've come to the conclusion the only way these wakings might get any later is to keep him up a bit later at night. Not too much, but I'll try 7pm again. It seems he goes 11hours from his last feed, so maybe if I stick with 7pm for a week or so it might change. I can but try.
I really don't know how single mums and other mums with DH/DP's who go away alot cope. Rhys (dh) has been away 6 days now and I'm going nuts! I think it's partly so much harder this time because of our colds, Daniel's night wakings again and his desperate desire to crawl - hence lots of grizzling. Normally I'm fine, but just not doing so well this time. And I've got another week of him away next week. I feel really bad that I'm grumpy and annoyed at Daniel for waking me so early, and keep telling him how much I love him - even at 5am. My issues seem so minor compared to Ankie's and Traci's so I'm sorry if you read my post and think you only wish you had my minor problems. But for me they're big enough. Infact, when I see it written down, they're not even problems really, just something a cuddle from DH and a few more hours sleep would probably let me handle in my stride. Oh well, only 2 more night without him. Then it's off to Wellington to garden in our rental property all weekend. Oh joy! I'm sure there'll be someone who will happily babysit Daniel while I garden though.
Ankie/Judy - I have been using some drops from the Chemist for Daniel's stuffy nose. Strangely enough he doesn't mind me putting these in but HATES it when I put saline in. The DR said saline's useless anyway. And Judy what you said about the flour on baking tins, that's just the action I do! Rolling him around sideways, upsidedown, forwards etc, he actually loves it and thinks it's a game. :lol: I was told the spray only works if you breath in at the same time, so it's great if the spray works for your girls. Maybe the infant one they don't have to breathe in for.
Okay, long enough ramblings. Thanks for listening ladies. Oh, what would I do without you.
Post by: Erin M on November 29, 2005, 21:28:12 pm
Richelle - wow are you busy! Good luck getting everything done and safe and happy travels. And congrats on finishing work!
Naomi - I missed congratulating you on your first day earlier. Hope your second one went just as well. Can't wait to see the pics.
As for us, I seem to have my Katie back. Yay! She has been her usual happy self today, though a bit sleepier. Since I now feel like crapola, I haven't minded that a bit. We took a 3 hour nap earlier! Unheard of for her. Thanks everyone for all your get well vibes. Hopefully we are on the road to recovery now. Going to the store when you're sick is a dangerous thing - I just went and came home with the most random assortment of junk - lots and lots of drinks, some desserts, and some frozen food (guess who has no interest in cooking?)
Oh yeah, Traci - belated congrats on DH passing his exam! What a relief that must be.
Hmm...someone seems to need another nap. Must run!
Post by: Erin M on November 29, 2005, 21:30:24 pm
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 29, 2005, 21:46:44 pm
Bye!
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 29, 2005, 22:44:26 pm
Michelle... we definately go to the Jasper place health centre! It sure could have been us that you saw! Did we have a convey??? would that be weird or what , and then we meet here.... hmmm ??? I would probably be going to the mall around noonish... so you can meet up with us at the mall if you want. I might actually bring the girls, my mom will be in town and she will just watch the girls while I am trying on clothes... Mom my is so amazing- she is driving 7 hours to come and watch the girls for one night! I love her to bits!
heres PRAYING for a great nights sleep for everyone tonight...
Jods
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 23:17:22 pm
Will be back later for more but wanted to say to Bec, you must be pronouncing it with the "L"...when in fact the L is silent. Hence, Micky was saying she has too much C.O.C.K. hee hee
Post by: solnme on November 29, 2005, 23:25:12 pm
Hayley - thank goodness you posted your vent! I sometimes feel bad about whinging on this thread. You sound like you're having a tough time. Its that much more draining when you're feeling under the weather.
It's 3:00 pm here and I'm still in my pj's. It's rain/snowing and I can't think of a reason to leave the house. The IL's are coming over tonight so I'm trying to get Sol caught up on his sleep. He's been down for almost 2 hours. Yay!
Has anybody gotten the flu shot for their los? It's free for parents and kids under 2 in BC. Sol and I already got ours but it was a big discussion at the playgroup yesterday and DH has flat out said he's not doing it.
Happy napping!
Post by: solnme on November 29, 2005, 23:28:10 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 23:34:40 pm
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Blocked ducts
Blocked ducts will almost always resolve spontaneously within 24 to 48 hours after onset, even without any treatment at all. During the time the block is present, the baby may be fussy when nursing on that side, as milk flow may be slower than usual, probably due to pressure causing collapse of other ducts. Blocked ducts can be made to resolve more quickly by:
1. Continuing breastfeeding on the affected side.
2. Draining the affected area better. One way of doing this is to position the baby so his chin “points” to the area of hardness. Thus if the blocked duct is in the outside, lower area of your breast (about 4 o’clock), the football hold would be best. Another way of achieving better draining of the breast is using breast compression while the baby is feeding, getting your hand around the blocked duct and using steady pressure as the baby sucks (See handout #15, Breast Compression).
3. Applying heat to the affected area (with a heating pad or hot water bottle, but be careful not to injure your skin by using too much heat for too long a period of time).
4. Trying to rest. (Not always easy, but take the baby to bed with you.)
If the blocked duct is associated with a small blister on the end of the nipple, you can open it with a sterile needle. Flame a sewing needle or a pin, let it cool off, and puncture the blister. No need to dig around. Just pop the top or side of the blister. Sometimes you can squeeze out a little toothpaste like material from the duct and the duct will immediately unblock. Or, put the baby to the breast and he may unblock it for you. Opening the blister has the added benefit of decreasing nipple pain, even if the blocked duct does not immediately resolve. Come to the clinic if you cannot do it yourself.
If a blocked duct has not settled within 48 hours (unusual), therapeutic ultrasound often works. This can be arranged at a neighbourhood physiotherapy office or sports medicine clinic. Many ultrasound therapists are not aware of this use for ultrasound. The dose is:
2 watts/cm², continuous, for five minutes to the affected area, once daily for up to two doses.
If two treatments on two consecutive days have not worked, there is no point in continuing with ultrasound. Get the blocked duct re-evaluated at the clinic or by your own physician. Usually, however, if ultrasound is going to work, one treatment is all that is needed. Ultrasound also seems to prevent recurrent blocked ducts that always occur in the same part of the breast. Lecithin, one capsule (1200 mg) 3 or 4 times a day also seems to prevent recurrent blocked ducts, at least in some mothers.
Just be careful when you're working away at it not to spray yourself in the face like i just did :wink: Also, my friend send to put some oil on it and warm it up really well first to soften it.
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 29, 2005, 23:34:51 pm
pm me your email addy if you want to see it... I promise I wont send anything but this skit!!
Jods
Post by: Colesmom on November 29, 2005, 23:37:58 pm
Post by: solnme on November 29, 2005, 23:42:33 pm
Post by: becca24 on November 29, 2005, 23:49:11 pm
Back in 1956 my Nanna (grandmother) had a baby who died on the way to the hospital. She went into labour 4 weeks early at her mothers house which was nowhere near a hospital. They called and ambulance, only one person came with it. :shock: Which meant my grandfather had to give baby oxygen while the ambulance officer drove the ambulance :shock: :shock: They did not have a funeral or anything !! They do not even know what happened to her :shock: Recently Nanna has started to talk about her. She named her Catherine.
oh i will have to come back - mil is here and baby is awake from nap
Post by: james030405 on November 29, 2005, 23:58:22 pm
Anyway, hopefully tonight will be better.
Just one quick question :?: how did everyone learn about Tracey Hogg and BW? I learnt about her on a women's channel on cable tv. This is the only book I have bought since becoming a mum. Just curious how everyone else started.
have a good day. :D
Lisa - mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
PS. I have seen a lot of you talk about giving your lo's Cheerios. They are a breakfast cereal here and I was just wondering what might be the equivalant here.
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 00:06:46 am
I saw the BW book at Costco years ago. I had heard it was good and got it for a couple of girlfriends showers. Didn't know what it was about though.
Also-it is the breakfast cereal people are giving. Just be sure it's the original Cheerios and not Honey Nut or whatever.
We tried on the weekend but Cole started choking and DH wasn't impressed. It was the first thing he'd ever had to chew so likely not a good idea.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 30, 2005, 00:21:05 am
I found BW when a friend recommended the book (she was still pregnant but had heard about it on a message board) - it was a life safer when Nathan was 3wks old and totally not coping on the whole demand feeding, missing sleep cue schedule. I only found the website when he was 5mths old though, so kind of muddled through the routine with the first book, if any of you have that, it can be pretty vague, but still a good read - I can't remember how many times I read it. :roll: :wink:
I don't even know what caulking is? :oops: I pronounce it the same as Bec as Cork if there's no "l". Well kind of the same as Bec with a Kiwi accent (in NZ we would say "fush and chups" right Bec LOL. :lol: And you say "feesh and cheeps" - fish and chips for those who can't figure either of those out!).
Post by: FrasersMum on November 30, 2005, 00:25:29 am
Thanks Bec for getting the caulk thing cleared up. I got where you were all going with the joke but I couldn't work out why it was funny!!
Lisa - we do have Cheerios here in Aust - just recent - but they are the sweet version that Traci referred to. Not the ones that all the O/S mums give their babies. We don't have any other equivalent. You'll just have to make do with all that other finger food you do :lol: :wink: :lol:
Our nights have been horrendous - I'm not even going to go there. But as always, I'm good with a plan and at the moment I have one :lol: I'm also delirious with sleep deprivation - roll on Christmas when I'm having a short break from work!
Anyway, wanted to pop on and say keep smiling everyone - and "you're all doing a very good job!!" (a la Mr Grace IYKWIM?)
Bye for now
Jo
Post by: FrasersMum on November 30, 2005, 00:30:39 am
A friend leant me the first BW book (and yes Nikki, I read it many, many times!!) not long after I had Fraser and I was devouring every baby book I could to try and work out how to muddle through. She thought it was good because it had a table which talked about baby's cries and body language and helped to decipher what they meant. She has no idea how life changing lending me that book has been 8) I'm way more into it than she'll ever be.
Bye for now
Jo
Post by: Erin M on November 30, 2005, 01:01:15 am
Finding out about BW - someone DH worked with recommended it. I read it, and wasn't too sure about it - I stressed myself out when Katie was tiny trying to get her to conform too much to an exact routine, relaxed a bit, looked at EASY more as a framework and less as a Bible, and things have gone very smoothly ever since (except for the mandatory bumps in the road of course). I think I found the website when she was a couple months old.
OK, I'm definitely done on here for today - such an internet addict when I'm sick (and when I'm healthy, when it's raining, when the sun is shining, on weekdays, weekends.....)
Post by: solnme on November 30, 2005, 01:06:32 am
I went to a book store while pregnant and was leafing through all the books. I'd never even heard of Tracey Hogg. My friend had recommended Baby Wise and I couldn't see myself doing a lot of the things suggested. So I picked up BW and it made the most sense to me.
Just talked to a girlfriend who has a 4 1/2 month old. Her dd goes to bed when she does, around 11 pm and wakes up every 2 hours to feed. Too scared to mention BW to her since she just finished ranting about all the unwanted baby advice she's been getting lately.
Bec - what made your nanna start talking about the daughter she lost? I can't even imagine having to get over something like that without really dealing with the loss. Do you mind sharing more info?
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 01:10:45 am
So, I went to Target and came back to three pages!!!
Bec, I would love to hear more too. What an amazing story.
Hope all the boobies are feeling better and yes I do mean boobies.
I can't remember who said it but I too pictured Judy as a turtle marooned on her boobies. :)
TTFN gotta feed the kvetcher...yiddish anyone?
Hannah
I forgot, a wife of a friend of Mikes told me about bw at a softball game. I had been reading everyting I could get my hands on as Sophie was about 4 months and had been sleeping with us for about 4 months...and I was really ready to move on. I ordered it from the library. Read it cover to cover and started my bw journey...a wonderful thing.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 30, 2005, 01:14:26 am
Anyhow, I keep re-reading and looking for answers. It has been a life-saver... the book and this website!
We had a cuddly day today. Arwyn did not want to be put down. So... we both stayed in our pajamas... I strapped her to my body with our Maya sling and we wandered the house together, sat together and had our sleeps together. I have just taken her out 15 minutes ago at 4:50 ish. I think her "mommy tank" was on empty and she needed to fill it up. So... no food for mommy here but we got to sleep for 2 hr 45 m from 11:30 -2:15!! Then we had another catnap from 3:45 to 4:30. She slept her morning nap 9-10 all by herself... even with her terrible congestion. Last time she had a cold, it was not this bad but this time around, it seems to be affecting her more... she is more clingy and seems to be SOOOOO congested.
Thanks Judy and Erin for the advice on helping her breathe. We are going to the doctor tomorrow. I'll see what he has to say too.
Also... Erin, when Katie was sick, did she refuse her solids? Arwyn doesn't want solids, only her BFs today. Anybody else's los refuse solids when sick?
Okay gals... see you all tomorrow. I am going to bed when she goes to bed tonight... which is in about an hour! Wish me luck... I anticipate another long night.
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 01:21:02 am
Nap 1- 45 min. extended to 1:30 and I slept too :lol:
Nap 2- 38 min. extended to 1:15 and I stared at the wall trying to sleep.
Went down for sleep without a peep and haven't heard from him in 2.5 hours. I put him down 5 min. later tonight...working to 6pm, maybe 6:15.
I think my new/longer windown is working really well, especially because he's so active all the time and quite worked up.
I haven't been able to extend a nap for a long time. I think that my new settling skill (hand on hip and holding hands) is working wonders.
okay, so i'm going to try again tonight not to feed Cole. I am mentally ready now. Thanks for your 8 hour rule Andrea. I think I might try that too, but that would be 1:30 for me...kind of early IYKWIM? We'll see how it goes.
Please send good luck vibes for me tonight ladies. Not the best timing with the plugged ducts, but I'm hoping it works because there's a birthday dinner on saturday i'd like to attend. Haven't been out for a night since mid-July.
Okay-i've posted enough here for one (or two or three) nights.
Post by: Jayri on November 30, 2005, 01:31:05 am
I did however notice that nikki you said that Nathan was having night terrors, Jay has had some for the past couple of nights, so dh has crashed in with him so we can all get some sleep.
Wonderful news on Ri, I was holding her hands on mon. she was standing, and she took some steps, I was stunned, she has no interest whatsoever in being on all fours, she would rather be in her excersaucer thingy and bounce up and down and squeal.
Oh! and of course now she has 2 teeth, she seems to be acting as if she can now eat anything she wants, as she leans in toward food no matter what you are eating. She seems to have developed in personality over the weekend, ever since the tooth broke thru last week.
She put herself tosleep tonight too, wrapped her up after a wind down, she did her unhappy whinge and went out like a light.
Janean is doing good with them, Ri even snuggled with her when I came home tonight. She has been feeding her a half hour before pd, but I just told her Ri was to do EAEAS not EAEAES.
She is still sleeping thro the night, not quite sure what I did to derserve that treat, but I will not knock it, it will probably come undone knowing my luck.
Work is good, a litle easier today, the first day had so many passwords to learn, but today we got to look in a little deeper at what was covered.
Leaving them is still a little hard, but I guess that will come in time, good job I have lots of pics of them on my cell!!!! lol
Is any1else putting in pics with the cards, just wondering, I think I may have to send off for an extra sheet :shock:
Right my fine ladies, I will love and leave you for now, I will lurk in and around here when I get home from work, I will try to post and replt to some of them if I don't have work at home like I have the past 2 nights.
I will try to get a pic up soon, but I never remember to take one of me at 7am when I am all ready to go.
TTFNMFL
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 01:52:18 am
I keep meaning to say that I didn't get the list?? Did I give you my info? Sorry but I really don't remember. Maybe I didn't type it correctly or something. Anyhow, I would love a copy. I'll pm you my email etc.
Thanks
hannah
Post by: mickymuscles on November 30, 2005, 02:47:57 am
So funny that the caulk topic has lasted this many pages!! :shock: HMMMM....is this telling us something?
We had our flu shots today....here's hoping it totally doesn't mess with our night! :?
I found out about BW from watching Tracy on the Discovery Channel. Then a friend lent us the Healthy Sleep, Happy Baby by Dr. Weisbluth (?sp) and I didn't really like his methods....and I was having some major issues with Jackson. I was at the grocery store and saw the BWSAYP read one or two pages and was hooked so the rest is history! :)
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 04:16:14 am
I found out about BW from someone DH works with. I had read BabyWise and some other books and they all stressed me out. I didn't know how to get LO on a routine, because I didn't know how to interpret her cries. Finally, when she was 6 weeks old, someone DH works with said BW saved their lives when they had their LO. I checked it out of the library the next day, and haven't turned back since. It's been a lifesaver!! Now my best friend is pregnant, and she's already told me she wants the BW book for her shower.
Here's hoping everyone gets some sleep tonight. Speaking of sleep...I'm off to do some now.
Goodnight all.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 04:30:27 am
Traci- I didn't receive the list either and know I sent you my info. Hannah, glad you didn't receive it either because I was starting to feel left out! :lol: :oops: Good luck tonight Traci. Also, tell me how in the world you are getting that little guy to extend his naps?!?!?! Taylor won't have it. Once she's up she's up!
Naomi-so glad you are doing well. Can't wait to see your new do! Also, funny you should mention it, but Taylor has also broken trhough 1 tooth over the weekend, and with that the most awesome happy baby personality! :D I mean she has always been a pretty happy mellow baby since she got over the 3 month hump, but lately it's like you can't turn off the smile!!! Interesting eh?
I learned about BW from my old boss who had her baby about 4 months befroe I did. She had read both BW and BabyWise, and knew I had read Baby Wise. So she recommended BW over Baby Wise and SO GLAD SHE DID!!! Baby Wise is HORRIBLE! Someone else said it that their frined recommended it to them and has no idea what an impact it has made because you're way into it. Same here! She would die laughing if she knew I was so addicted to BW and this site! :lol: :lol:
Ankie, your cuddle day sounds wonderful! Wish it would get cold here in SoCal. Can't really justify staying in all day when the sun is shining and it's 70degrees in November!
What else? Sorry I can't remember everything else tonight...usually have a better memory! :wink:
So like I said Taylor has cut her first tooth so we are so excited! One more step forward. Oh yeah, Bec, speaking of your question you asked the other day...last night Taylor had 3 night wakings (3 and 3:45 and 5:45 am) after 6 days straight of not making a peep. So will try not to freak out too much and hope things go back to the same tonight.
Oh yeah, someone had asked about cheerios. Taylor doesn't care for them too much and chokes on them, but she does love the Gerber Fruit Puffs which dissolve in the mouth but still let them chew a little. Don't know if you all have them in Canada or NZ or Australia?
Night guys!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 04:35:26 am
In the end though I do know her cries so well it's kind of crazy. Others will say maybe she's hungry or maybe she's tired or maybe this and I'll just say nope, it's this, and sure enough! That makes me feel amazing KWIM?
Thank you so much Tracy Hogg!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 30, 2005, 07:29:33 am
BW - I found out thru a friend mentioning it in passing that she'd read it and took snippets from it. Then when Daniel was having trouble sleeping past 40mins I asked our Plunket Family Centre if they had a copy and they did. I'm so pleased they had it. Without the book I wouldn't have eventually met you ladies, and my days wouldn't be the same without my 'fix'. Come to think of it I might rest more, or cook more.....
Well, I'm off for an early night. I found out today from some friends that I might have been overheating Daniel at night, too many layers and a heater, so I've turned the heater off and put one less cover on him. He pushes the blankets down anyway, so it's just his legs covered by the blankets and sleeping bag. Maybe that's why he's still been waking. I've wondered if the heater was drying him out a little, I guess we'll see tonight.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 30, 2005, 07:39:06 am
Andrea, I remember scouring that 1st book over and over every time I had my hands free of Nathan, wrote notes, had a journal - it was so tough, the new book definitely makes it easier. I remember thinking I had no clue about the cries, I think being on the routine is what saved me.
Post by: becca24 on November 30, 2005, 08:50:40 am
Sorry I had to go in the middle of my story. So, she has recently started talking about the baby. I am not sure why, maybe it's because of Halle. She keeps saying Halle reminds her of someone. Anyway, she has asked me and my Mum if we could try and find out what happened to her. As I said they just told her she had died and that was the end of it. No funeral, no talking about her, nothing :? Isn't that weird?? She does remember getting a bill :shock: :shock: for either burial or cremation but as you can understand she was to upset to even look at it. So I have tracked down a death certificate and it's in the mail. Hopefully we can find out if she was buried or cremated and get something made up for her. Oh and the death cert. doesn't even have a first name on it - just 'unkown'.How sad :cry: I will let you know how the story goes.
Nikki - that's funny about the fush & chups because when I was typing about the 'cork' I was trying to think how you NZer's would say it :lol:
Naomi - glad things going well for you for work.
Big GDay to everyone
Post by: mickymuscles on November 30, 2005, 11:34:58 am
Post by: kq on November 30, 2005, 11:46:33 am
LOL about the caulking...took me a while and needed dh to explain it!
Well is the 1 am so I am just about to head home. Soo addicted to this site that I thought I would check in before I left.
I found BWSAYP when Sam was 8 weeks old and it was by pure chance that I picked it up at the library. I was sooo desperate and had just read the Happiest Baby on the Block by Harvey Karp but thought I needed more. Found this site not long after. I think of you all as my friends now so it does not feel too wierd but trying to explain it...
I have since recommended this site to some of my girlfriends but have not told them where I post.
Must go home or will fall asleep driving home.
Karen
Post by: Richelle on November 30, 2005, 12:19:21 pm
I thought I would get a post in before my travels and packing up the comp.
I heard of BW while pregnant from a good friend of mine that had her BWed her LO and said it really helped, so I read but agree that the 1st book was vague but I really liked the relaxed yet structured philosophy so took it aas that. When Sophie was about 4 weeks and wasn't napping AT ALL, I got BWSAYP and it really helped, the rest is history! I am so glad that I found this site though, you ladies are a life saver.
Kate - I keep forgetting to tell you about when I get "caught"! I say that I have a mommies group on-line and when I get the funny looks (I too am so not the online/chat type) I say 'OK you find me a mommies group on this god foresaken rock (AKA Cayman Islands)! I also doubt any mommies group would even come close to the funny, hot mama's we got going on here!
Bec - What a story, I hope that your grandma finds some peace.
Well, I am basically ready to go and the house is packed. Sophie is very interested in the goings on - it is very cute. I got her up this AM at 515 :shock: so that her routine fits better into the flight times. I hope it helps. It was also very cute, when I woke her up she was mad, even grumbled, she sounded like an old man! I am a little worried that Sophie is going to have trouble sleeping while I am holding her, I know of all things but she does get rumbly when she is tired and I am holding her until I put her down! Everybody cross their fingers, toes and all else that there will be an empty seat next to me!!
New annoying baby habit: Sophie grinds her teeth, ARGHHH. She started yesterday and is doing it constantly - I really hope she stops! Anybody elses lo's with top and bottom teeth doing this?
I hope all you ladies and babies had good sleeps last night and good naps today!
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 30, 2005, 13:12:20 pm
Bec: That is so sad about your Grandma. My Nana lost a baby girl as well (she came 3 months early) and they wouldn't even let her see the baby, they just took her away and she has no idea what they did with her. Nowadays there would be lawsuits if that happened!!!
As for BW, I actually read Babywise during my last trimester and was all gung-ho about making it work. Then reality set in when Carter was born and I realized that you can't just put a baby in the crib and he will magically go to sleep!!! I liked the idea of Babywise (the routine etc, kinda like baby whisperer) but the author didn't talk about how to make it happen. That is besides putting them in the crib and letting them cry because as he states "It's normal for every baby to cry before sleep! :shock: ) A friend leant me Tracy's first book and I didn't return it for 3 months!!! I was addicted and it really seemed to work. By following cluster feeding and her other feeding tips, Carter was sleeping through the night at 8 weeks. Then I bought her new book and the toddler book and told everyone else to as well. The funny thing is .. the girl who leant me the book said she was following it as well but she was still bf'ing every 2 hours and her DD was 6 months old. She would sleep with her for naps and bf her to sleep!!!! We have since changed all that though and she is truly following the book now and she has #2 on the way!!!
We went to visit a friend of ours who had their baby via c-section on Thurs night. She is doing pretty well and the baby seems so small!!!! But she told me that he Dr (my ob's colleague) was swearing throughout the c-section :shock: !!! I couldn't believe it! Then I got to thinking about my own delivery and some of the things that were said!!! When I was being stitched up, my ob and I were talking about calvings and pulling calfs out with chains and trucks when the cow couldn't do it on her own!! Glad we aren't cows eh ladies??!!!
So, what was everyone's delivery like? Basic stats I mean ... length, pain meds etc? It's amazing how different everyone is!!
Mine was something like this:
2 days overdue/ 17 hours/ Dr broke my water/ epidural after 12 horrendous hours/ oxygen because epidural lowered DS heartrate/ forceps because his head was sideways and I had been pushing for over an hour/ 3rd degree laceration/ 45 min of stitches and a healthy big boy at 8lbs13oz, 21.5in with apgar of 9,9!! Makes me want another ... :roll:
I am sure some of you endured much worse!!!! It was funny though because I was in triage, 3 cm dilated and DH looks at the clock and says, if the Dr lets you go soon then I can still make it to work for 8:00am :shock: ! He did't think I was really in labour!!!!
Anyways that is my input for the day!!! See you all later! :lol:
Post by: Judy on November 30, 2005, 13:15:22 pm
BW - hmmm, I think I was browsing an online bookstore (chapters.ca) when pregnant with Zoe and Baby Whisperer came up - the title alone felt right to me... and the "horse whisperer" was a great movie so didn't that mean anything 'whisperer' was good? LOL Didn't happen across the site until Zoe was 3months old.
We're getting a lot of early wakings again here... like one of the girls is awake by 5am and not so interested in going back to sleep. It's quite frustrating!!!
Oh CRAP!!! It's snowing here lightly but it's right on the freezing mark and it's 'noisy' snow. Gosh I hope it's not mixed with ice... my mom's been here since Sunday night when dh left for Italy and she's planning on leaving to go home in the next hour. I had a dream last night she had to stay another day because of weather! Do NOT let this be the case!!! I think we're BOTH counting down the minutes. I'm sure by now she thinks her granddaughters are completely unruly and her daughter is a total wack when it comes to discipline. LOL My mom is VERY controlling of our every move (was) and I could tell it's been a real task for her this week to not control every move my girls make... it finally got to her last night and she had to leave the room in tears when the girls were moving the chairs to see if they could reach the cereal on the top shelf of the cupboard. She didn't want them to and they wanted to.... seems a silly thing I know but I think she'd had her fill of them doing what they want by then. Oy!! I'm so glad it's Wednesday. *big deep sigh of relief*
Post by: Judy on November 30, 2005, 13:39:06 pm
#1 - went to hospital at 3cm dialated (1 day overdue), nurse said they would likely send me home and I said there was NO WAY I was getting in a vehicle and driving anywhere. Zoe was born 4hrs later after 30min of pushing. I went from 5cm-10cm in an hour. Nurse came in (dh and I were alone) and heard me making weird sounds (painful!!) and said "is she pushing?" to which dh and I said "Huh?". She checked me and sure enough I was fully dialated and Zoe was on her way so she ran out saying "get her on her side and keep her legs closed" and we were alone again :shock: An OB came in (not mine at this time) and said "Hi I'm Dr. Soandso, is there anything about your medical history I need to know?" and I looked at him and said "well, I'm pregnant!" :) Then my OB came in on his way home and I told him he couldn't leave until I was done... he claimed that his shift was over and the hospital had 'rules' etc. I informed him I worked for the hospital - in Human Resources - and I doubted it would be a problem. Then within 20min she was out. :) I remember he kept saying to me "your rounding the curve, your rounding the curve" with each push, cheering me on. After about the second push I stopped and said to him "I think you need a shorter curve! This one's taking too long!"
OH oh oh!! I know this was long and it's just #1 BUT the BEST BEST BEST part of all my deliveries... once Zoe's head and shoulders were out... my ob let me pull her out the rest of the way. :)
#2 - again 1 day overdue :), went to the hospital at 7cm+ dialated and asked right away for the epidural (no time first time around). Nurse tried to convince me that since I had done so well getting to 7 that most the work was done and I prolly didn't need it. I said I wanted it anyway. :) So I was already 10cm when they gave it to me but the nurse and I didn't tell the epidural dude this (else he would have refused). At this point they laid me flat and I COULD resist the urge to push, water hadn't broke so they let me lie there for a couple hours. Then DH got mad and wanted to know why we were waiting and they said "no reason" so he said 'well we came here to have a baby not hang out!' I was in no pain so I didn't much care. My waters were coming out in a big buldge when I pushed and there was a student nurse in a chair resting her chin on her hand on the end of my bed (YES while I lay nake waist down :roll:) and I finally said to her "you should you want to be sitting that close when that bursts?" she got up... they had to break it anyway and I think about 40min of pushing and Sarah was out.
#3 - I was induced at 38weeks. I hated being induced, really stressed me out knowing ahead of time that today was the day. In fact I'd been in for an appt 4days before and was fine but by now my bloodpressure was too high. They started the drip which did nothing! They kept turning it up, still nothing. My ob came in at 1pm and they broke my water and he said "ok so we'll have babies by supper time" and I said "I was kinda hoping for 2pm" he laughed at me and said 'that might be a bit ambitious" so I said "ok then, 2.30pm" we chuckled and he left. Well 20min later I told the nurse I needed the epidural right away. She told the epidural dude who said he'd be along.. NO see 'be along' is not fast enough. So she rushed him and I told noone that I had the urge to push WHILE he was doing it. So as soon as he was done she told me to lie back down "in a minute" why in a minute "cuz the babies are coming now". She said "oh they are not." "wanna bet?" so she checks me and then hollers "Everyone to the back NOW!" (I had to be moved to surgical just in case) So I had to NOT push while they wisked me away - SO hard. Then scooch to a new bed VERY hard. Then finally I can push - ONE push and Kaia was out. They check on Hannah who is now head down so I can push again. One push and she's almost out. My OB says "ok push like you really mean it this time" to which I said (always the smarta$$ I am) "what? Was I kidding before?!" and out she came. Honestly - my EASIEST delivery. They were 6 min apart and born at.... 2.26pm and 2.32pm :) Just as we were getting settled to deliver and my OB rushed in I said to him "hey, how am I doing for time?" :)
No horrible tearing with any of them - 2 stitches at most I think. No stretch marks with any of them (I'm very long waisted!!). My SIL recently delivered her 5th baby and had the most awful time I've heard of so I realize how very VERY fortunate I was.. but all that said... there still we be NO MORE BABIES FOR ME!!!! :)
Post by: Richelle on November 30, 2005, 14:11:07 pm
I was 2 weeks overdue :shock: , they normally only let you go 1 but I really did not want to be induced and I was fine health wise and her head measured normal size so no worries. I was scheduled to be induced as there was no sign of her coming on the 2 week mark, Sunday morning at 9AM, I went into labour on Saturday night :D !
My mom was here to help with the new baby and had been twiddling her thumbs for 2 weeks waiting and my IL's(and their 2 friends) came the Thursday before she was born. They had booked their trip thinking that she would definately be here by then :oops: , oh well. On Saturday night everyone was having supper (YES that I had BBQed :shock: :evil: ) and I knew something was up but didn;t say anything. I just said I was tired so the IL: posse left and I went to bed. I didn't say anything to my mom ar DH either. The IL's missed seeing Sophie as they left Sunday morning and were to cheap to change their ticket!
At midnight I got out of bed and felt the 'trickle' and started having contractions every 7 minutes. I finally went in to DH at 2AM when they were every 5 minutes and started getting a little intense (by this time I was scared and kicking myself for not waking anyone up) and he said to me "ARE YOU SURE???" :twisted: :roll: .
We went in by 3AM and I thought I could handle the contractions so didn;'t want to wake the anastsegiologist (SP?) :shock: *sigh* 'first timers'! By the time 7AM rolled around i was breathing fire and 7cm but finally got the epidural. I was fully dialated by 11 AM but she was facing the wrong way and by the 5PM and no baby they did an emergency c-section as I had a fever and after that it is all a bit hazy. She was 9lbs7oz - maybe one of the reason she wasn't coming out :shock: and she also had the cord around her neck.
She was born with a fever and so rushed off to neonatal ICU and they gassed/knocked me out to stitch me up (I could feel everything at this point) and the rest of the 24 hours were a haze which is good because they had Sophie in the ICU. Everything turned out fine and I was up and at 'em the next day and Sophie was good as gold.
The next one I am definately going to try VBAC and not be so stubborn about being induced as this contributed greatly to her size!
Talk to you all soon!
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 16:07:37 pm
Andrea-I'll check your address on my email and send again. Jo and Hannah had issues to because things got messed up with my cutting and pasting. The end of Jo's address ended up at the start of Hannahs.
Also, don't know why I'm having luck extending now. I go in at the first peep before he gets too worked up. He is ALWAYS standing and I know he won't get down by himself even though he knows how. I do one or two pupds and then use my new technique of hand on hip/light bum pat and hand holding. I just hope the handholding doesn't become a prop.
Hugs to those having night issues-Ankie, Nikki, Jo and Hayley come to mind.
Bec-so sad about your grandma. I'm interested to see how it turns out. Hopefully you can gain her some peace with a small memorial.
Richelle-will PM you. Hoping you'll check in while you're gone. Not sure I gave you my phone number for when you're in town.
Our night went like this:
down at 5:50
woke at 8:50, down in 5 minutes with tylenol/anbesol
woke at 9:35, down in 5 minutes
woke at 11:40, pupd for 50 minutes. I was waiting for his tylenol window and his feed window. I had said 8 hours, being 1:30 but he's never gone longer than 7. The difference from other nights is that he wasn't playing. He would cry and try to settle, on and off, on and off. That made me think he was hungry. I gave tylenol 15 minutes early and tried 10 more minutes of settling. nope. fed one boob at 12:45, settled by 1:15.
woke at 2:40, settled by 3:00
woke at 5:00, fed one boob and slept until 6:20! Yay for the last bit!! I was certain he wasn't going back down because he was babbling to himself but I just hightailed it outta there hoping he'd settle himself and he did.
SO, I fed him. Drats. Andrea-did Taylor have extended wakings like that or just short ones? I was totally expecting the battle to be at 9 or 10 pm when he typically feeds. I would have done pupd for 2 hours at that point knowing he wasn't hungry. I hate doubting myself. I don't know his cries as well as you know Taylors :oops:
Extended his nap again this morning but didn't stay long enough and he came awake again 7 minutes later and wouldn't go back down.
my labour story:
in labour 4:30pm two days after due date, it was Tuesday. Had very uncomfortable BM and thought "boy-this little guy is putting some pressure on me" and low and behold there was my mucous plug (sorry if TMI but it IS a labour story after all). two hours in I'm VERY uncomfortable, contractions are anywhere from 3-11 minutes apart and 30sec-1:30 long :shock: They were all over the board. DH was home thankfully-STUDYING LOL-he had an exam on Saturday. He wanted to stay home since our instructor had said we'd be more comfortable at home. I said yes, but WHO is comfortable. The last thing my doc told me was, " I know they say to come if your water breaks and all sorts of other reasons (can't remember them now) BUT if you cannot bear the pain then come in". That was me. We left after 3 hours at home. Got there 4 hours in and I was 4cm. Had the epidural by 5 hours (9:30pm) and all was good. Checked at 11:30 pm and 2am-no change. Got an oxytocin drip. Was expecting to be about 6-7 by 6am. I was 10cm by 6 am. PHEW. If not they were thinking of doing a C. Waited a couple of hours for him to drop, turn a bit. Sample push at 8. Good push, but still room to drop and turn. Starting pushing for good at 10:30, out by 12:12. Third degree tear. I watched the whole thing in a mirror-very cool as it motivated me to push. DH was there the whole time-except for a couple minutes when he got queasy near the end. He nearly missed it! They had to run into the hall to get him. I had to hold off pushing while I saw Cole's head all squished and wrinkly ready to come out :shock:
Very healthy, apgar of 9.8. Of 5 couples at our prenatal reunion I was the only one with an unassisted birth. Counting myself lucky.
okay, time for lunch, he's eating an electrical cord :shock:
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 30, 2005, 16:09:56 pm
I was exactly 36 weeks preggo (to the day!). I had been off bedrest for 2 weeks, so I thought they would have come a lot sooner...
Went to bed friday night, woke up at 1am (sorry for the TMI in advance) had the craps... on and off the toilet until 3am...
DH asked me if I was in labour
I said "Yup"
"how far apart are contractions"
"3 min"
"dear god ,Jod we have to go!"
"But I have to shower!"
"HURRY UP THEN"
I showered , shaved the legs, did my hair (pausing the blow drying for every contraction), then did my make-up..
In the van we blew 3 red lights...
Showed up I was 5 cm and feeling okay
Called the epideral lady ( I cannot spell it!!!)
By the time she got there (10 min) I was already 8cm (water broke at home on toilet)
When epidural kicked in I was 10cm and off to the OR.
5 contractions, there was Maisie (1 push)
Next contraction (5mins later) there was Makaylee...
IT WAS AWESOME!!
jod
Post by: mickymuscles on November 30, 2005, 16:12:14 pm
5 days overdue and was being induced. They put the gel on my cervix Monday AM. The gel caused my uterus to become irritable and not contract properly. Monday PM sometime they decided the gel needed to comeout. They were afraid that with these useless contractions that my uterus would become overtired (not me tho :roll: ) So they had to wipe it off my cervix!!! :shock: :shock: HOLY HANNAH!!!!!!!! That pain I do remember!! Imagine someone shoving their fist up your crotch with a fist full of gauze!!! YOIYYYYY!!! They might as well have lit me on fire! The wonky contractions were also causing my blood pressure to drop and Jacksons heart rate to drop. So they started to pump serious IV fluids into me. 7Liters within 8 hours!!!! :shock: Tuesday at 7 am they started the drip. Then the real contractions finally started. By 11am I was at 5 cm and got an epidural. I think DH just about needed one too. He was looking a little green already! :) Then by 1 pm I was 8 cm. At 7 pm I still was 8 cm. Jack was sunny side up and was not progressing anymore and his heart rate was making alot of really bad dips. So off to have a C-section. They had to use forceps to get his gigantic head out of the birth canal. By 8 pm we had a beautiful 7lbs 1 oz 19inches Jackson. So 37 hours of labor and an extra 7 Liters of fluid added to my legs...I had cankles!!!! But I've forgotten the actual feeling of pain......Makes me want another!! :D
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 16:46:16 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 17:03:12 pm
RANT: just got Cole's birth certificate in the mail. It's paper. It says that lamination or other "alteration" voids the certificate. Well-why do they not issue some sort of plastic sleeve/protector for such an important document then? Because they'll get ruined easier and you'll have to pay for another, that's why :evil: :twisted: :roll: Sheesh, I'd even pay more to have something come with it...now I have to go out and search for something.
okay, a minor thing, but it was irking me.
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 17:04:23 pm
Well, I was really wanting to do things naturally. I think we were chatting one night about how my birth class was geared towards natural childbirth? We had a doula and a midwife. We had our bag of "tricks" massage stuff, music, pictures, etc, etc, etc,.....We had a birth ball too. We had talked and practiced for hours how we would deal with the pain..how Mike and the doula would coach me through it...
I was due on the Saturday after my last day of school. Sunday night at about 5pm very light contractions started while dh and I were in the car. We stopped, rented a few movies then went home. By around 8pm my contractions were regular...I can't remember the intervals, but not close enough together to go to the hospital. So, we watched movie after movie with me going through contractions, either with dh or on the birth ball. They were intense, but I was managing. At about 5 in the morning, we both slept for about an hour. Around 9am I called the midwife and she told me I could come in to the office and they would check to see how far I was. The contractions were still regular but not getting any closer together. I really did not want to get in the car at all if I was going to be sent home. I couldn't imagine having contractions in the car....I sat in back on my knees. No seatbelt!!
So we went in, they checked and I was 7cm!! So they were like, uh, you need to head over to the hospital. Mike and I were all excited. We were basically high fiving each other like "We did it!" ...we were so proud...I was so proud for staying at home for so long.
Well, then labor really started! After getting settled, the nurse broke my water. I got in the bathtub to try to get some relief. It was now about 2pm. I was still only 7cm. I had not changed since I arrived. I was totally exhausted and I had come to the end of my ability to handle to pain. I was shaking like a leaf etc, etc. They gave me something for the pain, shots in the arms...don't remember what it was...I was so worried that it would harm Sophie, but I couldn't deal otherwise. I slept for about an hour(with dh in the hosp. bed with me...it was soooo nice) then around 4pm, they checked me and I was still only 7. Argh!
So they wanted to start pitocyn sp? at which point I said I want an epidural, which I got, quite quickly thank goodness. Then around 7pm I was finally fully dialated, I pushed for about an hour and out popped Sophie 8lbs, 12oz. At about 8:30pm....bad mommy can't remember the exact time right now.
Sorry so long.
So, a couple of questions for you ladies, first, what kind of socks do your los wear?? I seem to not be able to find a good pair of socks, ones that fit but don't cut off the circulation in her little chubby ankles :)
Woops, can't remember the other one.
Got the list Traci. Thank you so much.
Is anyone going to chat tonight?
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 17:06:10 pm
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 30, 2005, 17:09:33 pm
I had been already 3 cm diatated for a month. I was 2 days overdue. My water broke at 3 am... I tell DH... who rolls over and goes back to sleep :) I say, "No honey... I need to go to the hospital, I think." So... I phone the on-call OBGYN and he says if I don't feel the baby in 15 minutes, come to the hospital because I am Group B Strep positive. So... of course, no kicks or anything, so we go.
Strapped to an external monitor as soon as I was admitted.... induced at 9 am... They wanted to do it at 8 am and I begged them not to and to let me walk around to see if I could induce labour that way. Anyhow... the oxytocin drip was being administered at half the rate as normal because I told them I don't take any western medications and have not so much as had an aspirin for about 10 years. Well... within 2 hours, I was in active labour... 4 hours later, 6 cm dialated, epidural administered... 8 hours later, 8 cm dialated... 13 hours later, 8 cm still... failure to progress... oxy turned off, emergency c-section as Arwyn's heartrate was increasing fast.
During the c-section... lost 5 units of my 11 units of blood... I shook throughout the entire surgery like I were a drug addict going through withdrawal BUT, I remember James bringing Arwyn over to me and kissing her. Apparently, they took my uterus out of my body :shock: because it was bleeding so much (they put it back). Anyhow... good thing there is no prize for how she came out (as my childbirth educator said) and that she is healthy and thriving. So... weighing 8lb 9oz, 9 on her Apgar... Arwyn is in the house!
Judy... that is so cool that they let you pull Zoe out!!!
Some of you have mentioned no remembering the pain. I can't remember the pain either. Isn't nature so kind? Otherwise, there would be no second children!
Well... gotta go... Arwyn has just extended her morning nap all by herself :shock: I heard a cry at 45 minutes but then silence and then another cry & more silence so... fingers are crossed for another 45 minutes.
We had a terrible night but I only fed her once. I had to hold her to settle her though. The elevated mattress wasn't helping. She just couldn't stay asleep. We slept together on the futon, sometimes lying down, most of the time sitting up. Funny how your body gets used to the change in sleep pattern... I feel much better rested today, even though I spent most of the night sitting up again.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 30, 2005, 17:14:44 pm
Traci... in BC, the birth certificate is paper too! Mine is laminated... Arwyn's is not. Hers came with this cheap weird paper sleeve... it reminds me of the kind you stick your bank card in. Maybe ask your bank if they have one? I know it is better to get the clear kind but if it is just to store it at home, perhaps that is an option?
Hannah... we wear triple roll socks and unroll them so they pull up to her knees :shock: Grampa like... but it works!
Gotta go... baby awake!
Post by: mickymuscles on November 30, 2005, 17:25:23 pm
Traci our birth certificate is paper too. I don't know where I got it but I put it in a plastic sleeve...the kind you would put a bus pass in. KWIM???
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 17:55:01 pm
I haven't received Sophie's bc yet??? Hmmm...I wonder if it takes longer here? Any US mom's have birth certs yet?
Ankie what brand are the triple roll grandpa socks? hee hee grandpa socks.
Hannah
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 30, 2005, 17:58:58 pm
Hannah- I did the hair and make up full well knowing this was going to be a great photo op that would last a life time. I am so not afraid to frame the picks of me holding the girls for the first time. Besides the fact that the epidural made one of my eyes swell shut a little (I look hilarious in that matter), not a bad pic!
Jod
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 18:03:22 pm
Thanks for the notes on the plastic sleeves. Maybe I do have something upstairs from the bank, or I'll see if I can find one at the mall :roll:
Jody-LOL at blowdrying your hair.
Judy- I was hoping they'd put Cole right onto my chest before cleaning him up...suppose I should have mentioned it. Very cool they let you pull Zoe out.
Micky-after being on the oxytocin/IV drip all night I had cankles too. I was soooo huge.
I might pop into chat for a bit, but I should try and sleep while Cole is sleeping. We'll see.
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 30, 2005, 18:06:21 pm
me in labour... just waiting for the epidural to fully kick in.. la dee dahh, enjoying my delicious cup of ice. It was like a fine wine that hospital ice!
Post by: albertasweetpea on November 30, 2005, 18:07:53 pm
Traci - when I got Molly's birth certificate mailed, they included a skinny plastic sleeve with it. That is so stupid about not being able to laminate it. I also found out that if you have the small sized certificate, it is not acceptable for identification when you are travelling. For the adult, not the child. So if you have a small one, they tell you to get a large one. Least that's what the lady out here at our registration office told me. :evil: Is it you that is doing up the Christmas Card address list?? Can you include me and send me a copy if I pm you my address??
Micky - LMAO at your "cankles". With Mason I had severe pre-eclampsia and was pregnant through the summer so I can totally relate!! :shock:
Hannah - I found the "George" brand of socks from Walmart work wonders. They are not too short and they actually stay on with all the kicking Molly does. They are fairly reasonably priced too.
Post by: albertasweetpea on November 30, 2005, 18:09:24 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 18:13:34 pm
Any other takers while I'm at it? I'll give it a couple of days...and this will be the final one. Of course unless anyone cares that I'm sending them a gazillion emails :D
Post by: solnme on November 30, 2005, 18:17:47 pm
I was 2 weeks and 2 days overdue. Would have been induced sooner but couldn't get ahold of my OB :evil: His receptionist should have retired about 25 years ago, never answered the phone and kept forgetting to make appointments. NEVER AGAIN!!
OB rushed me in when he found out about the mix up and they induced with oxytocin. 4 hours later they have it cranked up to 25 (they told me anything over 20 has to be monitored closely) and I can't feel a thing. Dr. starts talking about a c-section which I freak out about and beg them to keep trying. 7 hours later the drip is up to 32, I'm 3 cm and nurses are coming in to look at the freak. Finally it kicks in, the contractions hit me full force and I instantly start screaming. They nurse tries to convince me to hold on longer and tells me about her 29 hour natural labour. Was not interested and apparently said something quite rude. My girlfriend had to pull the nurse aside and told her to order an epidural pronto. She was a tiger in there! Dr. Drugs arrives and I have the gas in one hand while he is giving me an epidural. I only had about 2 hours of pain.
We're at about 14 hours and 10 cm. They have to tell me when to push cause I can't feel a thing and I'm making playlists on my iPod so I'd have the perfect song when lo came into the world.
Delivered after 16 hours - 9lbs - 17 inchs Apgar of 3 because the cord was wrapped around his neck twice. Couldn't figure out why he wasn't crying when he came out and why the room was so quiet. It seemed like eternity but he was alright in no time and I only needed 3 stiches.
I didn't let DH look and I remember what little pain I had. It was still awesome.
I find that baby gap socks work best for us and stay on pretty good.
Sol only sleeps in feet-in pjs with his snuggly and the heater on. He rolls around so much I kept finding him upside down in his crib all tangled in the blankets. He's always been a hot baby but I hope he's warm enough.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on November 30, 2005, 18:41:56 pm
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 30, 2005, 18:54:02 pm
What's up with the epidurals though ... did anyone else shake like a leaf after they had it? MIne hurt like heck going in too, and that was after the guy already missed TWICE!!! Then I had one pain free hour (went from 4-10cm) and then holy heck it hurt all over again. I remember them trying to top me up but it wasn't working so I had to sit up straight with legs straight up in the air to try and concentrate the drug in my pelvis. Try that position with full blown contractions!! Needless to say, I felt the forceps and all the pulling and the Dr kept yelling "Get her numb, this hurts!!" No kidding!! I was up walking as soon as stitching was done because my legs were working fine due to the definite lack of pain control!! I turned to my husband while they were cleaning Carter off and said "If you ever want anymore children then you better find another way to get them ... I am never doing this again!!!"
Jody: When I woke up with contractions I also took time to shower, shave, blow dry and make-up!!! DH stayed in bed and slept!! I had a really cute ob so needed to look my best :oops: :roll: Love the pics by the way! DH took pics off me holding Carter when he was first born and unfortunately my ob was stitching me up at the time so you can see EVERYTHING in the pics! Better not post those !!! LOL
As for birth cert I know what you mean!!! Carter's isn't even made out of the same thick paper mine is, it is really thin. I am going to use one of the bank book sleeves from my bank for it I think. Let me know if anyone thinks of anything else to use.
Traci: Just wanted to thank you for putting the effort into making the XMas card list for us!!!
Micky: I totally had cankles!! The day I got home from the hospital is when I noticed it ... didn't hurt though thank goodness!! I had been wearing compression stockings during 2nd and 3rd trimester so never had swelling before labour either.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 19:03:59 pm
Andrea and Cathy--I also liked the BabyWise philosophy, but could NOT for the life of me figure out her cries. That's why I was so glad to find BW with all the additional information in it. At about 6 weeks, Olivia would SCREAM for about an hour straight every evening. Nothing would soothe her. I knew it wasn't colic, because it was at different times each night. After reading BW, I realized she was WAAAYYYY overstimulated. (She is still pretty sensitive to action and sounds.) Once we started keeping the TV off and doing wind-down, things got SO MUCH better. A lot of my friends here do BabyWise and I've recommended BW to all of them because it's so much more helpful, but follows the same philosophy...routine, not letting them CIO, etc.
Bec--such a sad story. I'm so sorry for your Nana's loss. What a terrible thing to go through.
Hannah--we received Liv's bc within a couple months.
OK, here's my labor story: Olivia arrived ON HER DUE DATE!!! It was a Sat and I had been dilated to 2 for 2 weeks. I had called my mom on Friday and told her to change her flight to Monday, because I was sure Liv wouldn't come over the weekend (don't know what possessed me to do that.) Woke up Sat morning with slight contractions and told DH "I think I'm having contractions." They were pretty mild and about 30 minutes apart, so I went about my day...made pancakes for breakfast, took a shower, cleaned up the house. (I also did my hair and makeup, Jody!) Finally around 3:00 the contractions were getting worse and I was lying on the couch trying to watch movies in between the groaning, etc. But they were still 10-15 min apart. I told DH as soon as I have 2 that are 7 min apart, we're going to the hospital!! We headed to the hospital around 5:00. They took me to triage and I was dilated to 4. The nurse (who was our birthing class instructor) said, "Well, I guess you're having a baby." I was like, "No kidding."
They took me to my room and tried to get an IV in me. Apparently I have pretty bad veins, because 45 minutes, 7 nurses, and one lab tech later, they finally got an IV in me. (I was having contractions the whole time...DH said it was worse to watch me go through that than the delivery!) They started me on Staydal for the pain while they waited for the IV to finish so I could get the epidural. About 5 minutes later, I told the nurse I was feeling some pressure. She checked me and said I was dilated and ready. I was so disappointed that I wasn't going to get the epidural...DH was so cute, though. He kept saying, "Maybe you can still get it" while the doctor is scrubbing up and the nurses are breaking the bed down. They broke my water, and I only pushed for about 20 minutes and she came sliding right out. I had a small episiotomy...but the worst was yet to come (Warning: TMI ahead)
I was lying there, exhausted, holding my precious baby, when all of a sudden I felt some pressure in my abdomen. I asked the doctor (not my OB, the oncall) and he said my placenta didn't detach, so he had to go in after it. It took him 2 times to get it out...and I had no anesthesia. Then he started to stitch me up. I asked if I was going to feel it. He said, "no, I gave you a local." Well, he started, and I said, "Hey! I'm feeling that!" He gave me another local, but it didn't take either. So, I felt all 9 stitches!!! The delivery wasn't a problem...but the placenta and the stitches I could have done without! But, as I'm sure you all agree, it was worth every moment!!
OK, Olivia is still sleeping for nap #1. She's going on 2 hr and 15 min now. Do I wake her up, or just let her sleep? SHould I be concerned, or just thankful? She's usually a good napper (1 hr to 1.5 hr), but this is a bit much even for her!
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 19:13:07 pm
On a positive note, Cole is going on 1.5 hours unassisted for nap 2! so very very relieved that he seems to be getting the hang of his new schedule. I just have to figure out if A time was too short this morning (2:40) or too long. Second A time was 3:00 if you count when he first woke up and 2:45 if you count from when I kind of extended it for a bit :D
I sooooooooooooooo want to go out Saturday night to a birthday dinner. DH is going to try to settle Cole tonight when he wakes at 9 and 10. I am expecting Cole will not like this very much. I keep putting off DH doing it knowing it will take longer (agree with I think it was Cathy who feels the same). But if he's not going to take a bottle then this will be the only way I can have a night out. Also, I don't want to make DH feel like I don't trust him KWIM? He has offered so many times. I just emailed him to say tonight was the night. But I also said that he had to be patient, that he couldn't give up after 5 minutes. I will give him pointers on pupd etc, but I think it's good if he develops his own method of comforting Cole. As long as he's not holding him to sleep, do you ladies agree this is the right thing to do? Will Cole understand that mommy does it one way and daddy does it another? Obviously he has to understand pupd and not holding too long, but I don't expect him to hold Cole's hand or pat his bum if he finds that he can just rest his hand on his back for instance?
okay, long enough.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 19:13:31 pm
Post by: M&M'sMom on November 30, 2005, 19:19:25 pm
The OB told me before I was in labour just at a reg appt that after baby A was delivered and Baby b wasnt coming down, she would reach in and get her!!!!! Not a pleasant visual is it?!!!
I would wake Olivia up after 2.5 hours. That's the absolute max I let the girls go, or else it's like they have slept to much and get tired again? Make sense???? They wake up groggy and grumpy if they sleep any longer during the day... HTH
jod
Post by: Carter'sMama on November 30, 2005, 19:21:43 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 19:25:01 pm
OKAY, i must get off this site and DO something :wink:
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 30, 2005, 19:55:35 pm
Enough of that. Another night of early morning wakings, 3am, 4am, 5am up for the day. Down like an angel at 8am though. I'm only going to let him sleep 1.5hours though. We've got coffee group today, so will be out and about, therefore he won't sleep until we get home thisafternoon (or in the car). In that case, he won't have too much sleep, but hopefully just enough. If I then manage to keep him up until 7pm who knows what will happen in the morning???? It may take a few days I guess, but it's my last hope. Surely less sleep during the day will help with longer sleep at night. It's not like I'll be depriving him of sleep. He can still have 2.5 hours if he wants it, but just not 3.5h that he's been having. Sorry ladies for those of you having not enough day sleep, that was me a few months back and now I have the opposite problem!
Q for mums with LO's sleeping past 5.30/6am. How much sleep are they getting during the day? And what time do they go down at night?
Have any of you got swings? We were at a friends yesterday and I put Daniel in their swing, he loved it! I'm going to have to get one, if not for Christmas, then in the Christmas sales.
Happy days everyone... thinking of you Ankie, Traci and all you other sleep deprived mums. {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}
Post by: james030405 on November 30, 2005, 19:56:14 pm
** WARNING LONG POST**
traci: in regards to pu/pd, I only very rarely have to do it during the night. Usually james only needs to be repositioned and then a few pats on the bottomand he is off. If he is really upset and DH comes in, I find James actually wants to go to him :roll: and as soon as he goes to DH he settles and DH puts him down. Bedtime is always done in pitch black darkness as well, so sometimes this helps. Sometimes makes me feel a little angry :x at this, but I should be grateful that DH is so helpful :D If I do pu/pd during the day, DH is not here and it usually only takes a couple and then he is happy to go down. I think it is the change of body type, feel etc that seems to settle James down. Even if I am doing pat/sh and it is not working, DH can come in and within a few minutes of him doing it, he is out :? Can DH come in and try?
In regards to my delivery, James was due on the 1st April, but thankfully was 2 days late (not April Fools Day baby for me :D )
I had a show at 6am on Saturday morning and at 10:30am started contractions. Coped quite well during the day. Around 6:30pm Saturday night, they were getting a lot stronger, but were quite eractic in time, anywhere from 10-20mins. Had a bath at 10pm and stayed there for about 1hr. DH had gone to bed, I had told him he needed his rest :? . I then spent from 11:30-12:30pm circling my island bench in my kitchen. I finally rang the hospital and they said I could come in - contractions were approximately 5mins apart. I was soooooo terrified they were going to send me home saying I wasn't far enough dilated. Left home at 12:30am Sunday morning and got to the hospital in about 15mins. When I got there they put me on the monitors and checked me. I was already 6cm dilated :roll: :roll: Finally they took me to a birthing room, where they hooked me upto the gas. I sat on an exercise ball, in the shower whilst using the gas. I remember saying to DH "this must look very sexy" :D :D He just laughed. My waters still hadn't broken. They put me onto drugs to help with contractions as they were eratic. I had a student doctor come in and ths was his first delivery. I only had him, my DH and the midwife in the room. It was niceand quite. Finally at 9cm, they broke my waters and gave me an epidural. After about 1.5hrs of pushing (and an almost 25hr labour), James arrived at 11:17am on Sunday 3rd April.
The student doctor cut the cord as DH couldn't do it. :D The only scare I had was they had to bring in thecrash cart as James heart rate kept going up and down. I had a fever all during the delivery, but this went as soon as James was born. The placenta didn't want to come out though andI ended up having 2 midwives pushing on my stomach to get it out :o
After James came out, they put him straight onto my chest and I remember looking at DH and my look was apparently one of total shock :shock: :shock: :shock: They weighed him (7lb, 9oz, 3430gm and 51cm) apgar 9. They gave him to Dh while they got the placenta out (I thought this was suppose to come straight out). After about 30mins, James was given back to me and latched onto a breast.
In the end, no stitches needed, just a superficial tear, stayed in hospital for 2 nights and came home iwth my bundle of joy.
Hope all is well, we went back to last night sleeping through which was nice. Putting the Christmas tree up today :D :D :D
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on November 30, 2005, 20:04:21 pm
Nancy, yes, I'd wake up, that's what I'll be doing thismorning too.
Traci, you're so lucky to have a DH who offers to try to settle Cole. It took 7 months for my DH to finally realise it might be better if he gets up to settle Daniel. And much to our surprise and relief he actually settles better for DH than me!!! Especially when I was still b/f. It's like he knew there was nothing daddy could do except put him back to bed so he happily went to sleep. They do know/learn that things are done differently with different people, I"m sure of it. Just like sometimes daddy can comfort Daniel when mummy can't.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 30, 2005, 20:34:14 pm
Danielle's birth was my dream birth. I wanted a natural labour and water birth (I had one with Nathan too only it was a 17hr marathon and 2.5hrs of pushing - no water birth though). I was due on the 1st April, woke at 3am with my waters breaking (that didn't happen with #1), contractions started straight away at 4mins apart, phoned my midwife, went to the birthing centre around 5am, active labour kicked in, I jumped in the birthing pool and pain relief was awesome, just continued with contractions and kept thinking after the next one I'll get some gas, anyway, before I knew it I was pushing and 6mins later she was out at about 6.45am. Apgar was 8 and then 10. She was 8lbs13oz, I had no tearing (remember I'm 5'1"), Nathan was 8lbs11oz and also no tearing even with all that pushing. I went home after 4hrs.
Hayley, FWIW, on the nights that Danielle was sleeping right through she'd wake around 5.30-6am (with a 7pm bedtime), now that she's back feeding at 4-4.30 she wakes at 7-7.30am.
Judy, I know what you mean about breaking the cycle of controlling parents (makes it a challenge for me to break that cycle with my own parenting style I must admit) - my stepdad was/is like that growing up and the other day I was at their place with the kids, Nathan was eating his snack which had some grated (shredded) cheese and some was dropping on the floor, he was eating really quietly and neatly and I could see my SD almost having heart palpatations and trying his best not to tell Nathan to keep his food on the table - I'm pleased he managed to keep quiet, must have taken a lot of restraint for him. I mean, it's not like the kid was throwing his food around or anything and harming absolutely no one. :roll: Anyway, their dog loves cheese! :P
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 21:02:48 pm
Hayley--Liv usually goes to bed around 7:30 and typically sleeps till 7:30 a.m. (Dreamfeed at 11, but we're getting ready to drop that.) She did start doing a 6:30 wakeup last week. She would just be awake and talking and rolling around. Since she wasn't crying, I just let her stay in her crib until about 7:30. After about a week, she started going back to sleep. Now she skips the 6:30 wakeup. This morning, she did wake up at 7, when DHs alarm went off, but she fell back to sleep and slept until 8:00.
Lisa--that's funny about DH. My DH couldn't cut the cord either. He's pretty squeamish. He hates that I watch Law & Order and CSI. He can't watch them. I'll have to tell him about your hubby...his friends gave him a hard time.
Liv has a rash on her back and under her chin. She's had it about a month. I showed the doctor at her last visit, and she said it's dry/sensitive skin. We switched detergents and bath wash and moisturize, moisturize, moisturize!! But it doesn't seem to be helping. It's actually worse under her chin. And she's started scratching at a spot on the back of her neck. I wonder if it's eczema, but the doc didn't say anything about that. Has anyone else run into this problem? Does anyone know of anything that helps?
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 22:06:06 pm
Traci I completely think you have the right idea about letting dh customize his approach (within your comfort zone of course) I do think that babies know the difference between mom and dad and I think they can learn to go to sleep with two or more slightly different methods/sets of cues. Ultimately, as I have said before, if we want help from our dh's I think we have to relinquish some control, IMHO. My dh wants to be an equal parent but feels very self-conscious and insecure when I "hover". He has his own instincts and although there are definately times that I think they are wrong, or mostly I am concerned because they are not bw, or I think Sophie will be confused becasue they are not the same as me, they are his instincts and I have to respect them at least a little :) These lo's are going to have to make their won realtionships with their fathers at some point right? Can you tell I think about this subject a lot?! :roll:
Thanks for the sock input. I forgot we have some triple roll socks from the gap that work well. I think I'll try old navy...a little cheaper but I think basically the same style.
And yet another question for you ladies. Brendan's 7th bday is coming up. We are having a little family party at our house since he lives with his mom a little ways from here we don't do a friends party (she always does one for him). So, IL's are comin' over!! But anyhow, anyone have any cute (AND easy) cake/cupcake ideas that would be cute for a 7 yr. old boy but still tasty for adults? Is that possible?
Nancy, we've got eczema over here too. Just a few spots. I have found that aquaphor is helping a lot. Make sure you get her right after the bath, before she is completely dry. HTH.
BTW...Naomi...missing you, but glad work is going well. You GO girl!
TTFN,
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 22:08:16 pm
I think blow drying your hair between contractions is one of the best illustrations of that statement I've ever heard :)
Hannah
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on November 30, 2005, 22:12:27 pm
Post by: Jayri on November 30, 2005, 22:19:19 pm
I will try to make the chat tonight, if not tonite then definitly on friday...can't miss a chat with my girls.
Well my birth with Jay was pretty straight forward, I went in at 12noon at 3 cm, felt like I was crowning tho, got the epidural...mmmm.
I had to push for an hour with him, felt like I was going to split in two, as he was 9lb 4oz. Riley was fast and furious, I went in at 2:45pm at 6cm, was very proud of myself, was looking forward to the drugs anda nice suppertime delivery......well......20mins later, while the nurses were trying to put the IV in, the room wasn't even set up yet, my water broke, and she crowned with it. So thre pushes and she was out, they didnt even have time to get any kind of drugs. It especially scared me as at 34weeks they told me I carried GBS, so I was nervous as I hadn't had any of the medication she needed. She was perfect tho.
k...my chance to brag....did any1 see that Ri has started to take steps when we hold her hands, she started that on monday, and janean says she gets some practice in each day.
Righty ho dahlings....I am off for some Q time with my kids....check ya later...this is the first night I have had no work to bring home...yipee!!!!
Post by: sophieandhannah on November 30, 2005, 22:29:38 pm
Hannah :oops: :shock: :D
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on November 30, 2005, 22:38:52 pm
Post by: kate585 on November 30, 2005, 22:46:47 pm
So many funny things in the last few days. My favorite, though, was Cathy or Roz's quote, "Well then stop trying to kill him, you idiots!" :lol:
Congrats to Miss Riley on her walking! Ryan figured out how to pull himself up in the crib, so it's bye bye bumper.
I heard about BW through my best friend from college. She actually got me the first 2 books for free through her sister. :D I also read Happiest Baby on the Block and Healthy Sleep Habits. This seemed to work best, although all three are really similar. My friend mentioned that there was a website, not that she ever posted or anything. So, I checked it out and lurked for a long time before joining and lurked some more before posting and here I am.
My birth story was pretty good, I'd say. My water broke at 4:30 pm while I was at work. This was 11 days early. But, I wasn't sure if it was really broken ( :roll: duh! But, I did all the tests we learned about and nothing else happened), but just in case I stayed another hour and cleaned up and left sub plans. I had a friend over for Thursday night TV (we always do this) and since I had the scare, I spent the time making my packing list. She took my picture at 9:30 or so, since I thought I looked HUGE. When I got into bed at 10:30, I had the WORST, weirdest pain of my life. No clue what it was. (double duh!) I hopped right out of bed saying, "Ow! Ow! Ow!" Dh is following me around the house trying to figure out what was happening. The contractions were coming really quickly and strongly (3-6 mins. apart) I checked my notes from class :oops: (total dork, I know) and it seemed this was the time to roll, so we started packing (thank goodness for the list, since I was not in a place to think!). Got to the hospital just after midnight and I was already a few cms. Got an epidural at 2:30 or so and slept a few hours 'til they checked me. I was already at 7 cm by 6:30. We called dh's family and told them to come at 10 or so, but luckily they didn't listen and were all there (in the waiting room) when I was told I could start pushing at 7:40 or so. Ryan was born at 8:23 am, weighing 9 lbs. and measuring 21 1/2 inches. Dh cut the cord and I got to hold him right after he came out.
Traci, thanks for the lists...I'll wait until the final one to start my addressing. I don't need much excuse to procrastinate! 8) Better run, little man is currently pulling himself up on the computer chair. He woke just when I finished reading all 1784 pages and I wanted to post.
And, I haven't even told you about our hellish nights...must come back later, I guess. :D
Post by: james030405 on November 30, 2005, 23:18:27 pm
Post by: Colesmom on November 30, 2005, 23:35:16 pm
Woo Hoo Riley Girl! that is very exciting 8)
Post by: Judy on December 01, 2005, 01:24:59 am
Post by: Jayri on December 01, 2005, 01:34:10 am
Anyone elses lo sharging ahead in the food, I can barely keep up with her, today she had some canned diced peach pieces, last week she could barely chew on an arrowroot cookie. She gets fussy when we are eating and she is not.
OMG, now I have two bottomless pits to feed!!!!!
Is any1 sending pic in their cards, I have some nice cards I want to send, but I was wondering what you were all doing on the pic thing, the ones we just took don't come back till dec 8th.......any1mind if I wait till the new year to mail the pic seperately...that way you all get your cards and the pics won't get lost in the mail during the xmas rush either.
Post by: kate585 on December 01, 2005, 02:07:32 am
HTH
Post by: Colesmom on December 01, 2005, 02:24:24 am
Post by: kq on December 01, 2005, 03:04:22 am
Birth story- I was supposed to be induced the day before due date as Sam had stopped growing. Had the gel put in Fri night and went to sleep-nothing. More gel Saturday morning...still nothing. We were in hospital but walked to the park, had lunch and did couple things which was lovely! Saturday 4 pm, 2 cm and Sam's head was not engaged at all. Waters broke at 4 pm and went from no contractions to 5 minutely contractions. I tried birthing pool, acupuncture and finally at 6 pm and at 6 cm, had an epidural. All went very smoothly from there and at 10.20 pm with the help of forceps and an episiotomy, Sam arrived! The epidural rocked!! I wince when I think of some of you feeling stitches etc.
Naomi, am sending a small pic that we took. Printing out on PC as well.
Hayley, Sam goes 6.30-6 am straight through. We tried 7 but then got 5 am wakings. This seems to work for us.
Off for a walk, glorious day here!
Karen
Post by: Jayri on December 01, 2005, 03:27:41 am
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 01, 2005, 03:35:51 am
Hannah
Post by: becca24 on December 01, 2005, 03:45:41 am
The 'Idiot' thing really cracked me up too !! Idiot is one of my FAVE words !! This is what it says in my English Dictionary
idiot noun
a person with subnormal intellectual development who is considered unable to be educated.
Trust me to find a dictionary entertaining :roll:
Post by: kate585 on December 01, 2005, 03:57:55 am
Dh was out of town for 2 nights (in NYC, lucky dog!) for work. He doesn't usually go away and man am I in awe of Micky and Hayley and Judy (at least this week,right?). On Monday, Ryan started acting sort of crazy...really fussy, short naps, clingy. I put him down at 7, up at 10 or so SCREAMING the house down. Got him back to sleep...possibly nursed? don't remember. Then, he woke at 2:45 screaming again. Tried to calm him, for sure nursed him, sat and held him, brought him to bed :oops: (luckily, he hated that so it won't be a problem), etc. Finally, he went back down after an hour. Ugggh! Now I can sympathize with some of you other night owls. That stinks! Slept through until 7.
Dh got home on Tuesday, so I was glad for the backup. Ryan went down at 7, up at 7:15 with stinky diaper :evil: . Then wide awake until back down at 8:15 or so. Up at 9:20 screaming, nursed to calm, then back to bed. Up at 11:10, nursed to calm, back to bed. Same at 1:45, although this time I got dh in on it as I had got Ryan almost asleep without nursing, but when I put him in the crib, he totally freaked and I couldn't take the screaming any more. How on Earth could dh sleep through this in the next room? :roll: Eventually, got him back down by 2:30 or so. Up at 6:30...technically still the night, so I nursed him and he and I slept until 9:30. :shock: :shock: :shock: I was doing the "He must be dead" thing again, but when I went in, he was playing with Ella (his elephant/lovie) and just looked up at me and smiled. How can you stay annoyed at that? :D
So, tonight, he didn't want to go down at 7...imagine that since he got up 2.5 hours later than usual. Finally down by 8:30 and he just got up at the 40 min. mark and I had to....drumroll please...nurse to calm him down. This nursing is getting to be a HUGE problem here, ladies. I told dh he's got the next wake-up as I seem to cave and maybe he is upset b/c he can smell me and knows I'll give in. (Like Hayley was saying earlier, I think). I know it must be the teeth...tell me it's the teeth, please...but I still don't want to start bad habits just to get him through this bad patch, as he's been sleeping through for 3-4 months again. This too shall pass and all that jazz.
Okay, I'd better go pump...I didn't last night since I was about wrung out and he didn't have enough to mix his cereal at dinner. :( Here's to a better night!!!
Post by: Erin M on December 01, 2005, 04:08:56 am
I go to work for one day and come back to a ton of new posts! Katie woke up crying last night, tried every trick in the book to get her back down and then her tummy growled and I realized she was hungry!! She hasn't eaten at night in so long I forgot it might even be an option. However, she hasn't been eating much during the day.
Ankie - yes, Katie pretty much stops eating solids when she's sick
Richelle - Katie grinds her teeth too - awful noise
Andrea - we too had the book in one hand and the crying baby in the other - good to know we weren't the only ones!
Hannah - we use Carter's socks and they stay on - do NOT get the cheap Old Navy socks as Katie gets them off as soon as I put them on.
Hayley - Katie sleeps about 12 hours at night (7:30-7:30) and then about 2-3 hours during the day.
Naomi -YAY Riley!! I'm amazed!!
Birth story - I was a week overdue - Sunday morning, we wake up, go to church, go out to lunch, and were wandering around the grocery store when I started to feel a little odd. We went home and I laid on the couch and started to realize I was having funny pains at regular intervals. I was something like 3PM at the time. Timed the funny pains for an hour and realized they were regularly occurring at 4 minute intervals. So, off we went to the hospital. Got there around 5:30 PM - in a bed about a half hour later and I was 6 cm. So, I got the epidural in a big hurry and was at 10 cm not too long. Started pushing around 7:45 and Katie was born at 8:30 - the labor and delivery wasn't bad - had a decent sized episiotomy though due to the fact that Katie's hand was stuck up around her head. In all honesty, the roughest part of mine was recovering from those damn stitches.
Talk to you all soon!
Post by: hayes on December 01, 2005, 05:24:08 am
Traci-I haven't received the Christmas list yet, can you send it again to me, thanks.
Heard about Baby Whisperer from a good friend. Read it when I was pregnant. Tried to implement things the first week and DH told me that he was going to throw away all of my baby books because I was so stressed out. Returned to it at around 4 weeks.
Birthing story. Had a terrible obgyn. That should prepare you! A week overdue. Went in on THursday night and got the gel for the cervix. Went to the bathroom and DH told me to stick something back up my area and I told him to forget it because I didn't want to get grossed out. Ended up peeing out the gel a few hours later. I was a mess because I wanted to try to do things without any drugs. Started a drip at 6am. Doctor came in at 7:30 showed me a big sewing needle and told me that she was going to break my water. DH and I were very surprised. Had contractions all day and they got me up to 80 drips of petocin. Never moved past 2cm. Sat on the birthing ball and had lots of visitors. A new nurse came in at 4 pm and told us we would be having a c section then left the room. Dh and I were very mad and dissapointed. Nurse came back and DH introduced himself and we had a nice long chat. SHe called the doc and said that we would be trying some other things. Nurse put a measuring device in to see how strong my contractions were and they were off the charts but I didn't have that much pain. SHe gave me 2 more hours to dialate some. I didn't dialate, got an epidural at 9:30pm. TONS of shaking and vomiting, I was given drugs for both. Ben was born at 10:20. He had his shoulders and head out of the incision but it wasn't big enough so they had to cut me open more. I was so out of it but still remember what he looked like and ALL of the different smells. Sorry for the TMI. DH didn't tell anyone in the waiting room that Ben had been born for 2 1/2 hours. A nurse didn't even go out there. I could have killed him.
I am off to bed. Thanks again for all of the wonderful stories to get me back into the groove.
Great sleepies for everyone. We had a 5am wakeup here, lots of teething and a possible ear infection. I told DH about the possible ear infection and he tried looking for it! :roll:
macaire
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 01, 2005, 05:36:47 am
GO Riley GO Riley!!! Way to go Riley you awesome little overachiever you!
NIKKI-I have been meaning to tell you. a few pages back you had a vent about not getting enough sleep and I just wanted to say, I hope things have gotten better. I think that is the first time you have ever vented on here. You are always seem so calm and together, so wanted to give some support when you have the rare bad day! :wink:
So birth story:
I had been paranoid my entire pregnancy about something terrible happening to Taylor :cry: . I guess knowing too many people that miscarried, as well as one family friend that had a still birth after being sent home for the night because she was only 2 cm dialated and she was my OB's patient! :shock: :cry: :cry: :cry: So my doc knew I was SUPER stressed and at 39 weeks she checked me and I was at 3cm. So she said, "you are a nervous wreck and since we have had some questionable heartrates the last few days for the baby, do you want to get induced tomorrow morning?" Suddenly after wanting to get this over with for so long I was so scared! :oops: :shock: she said, "Andrea, this baby's gotta come out eventually!" So made an appt for 6am the next day.
At 3 am I wake up and have gone into labor. Of course I don't feel the baby kicking so call up the hospital and they say, "what are you waiting for? what is 2 hours?" so go in and sure enough in labor. At 6am my doc decides to give me pitocin drip as planned to ensure my labor progressed (contractions were steady but not intense). I was kind of bummed because I said to DH in front of doc, "the likelihood of needing an epidural with induction is much greater" (I wanted to at least try for a natural birth). My doc said, "you are getting an epidural...I do my best work with epidurals!" Kind of shocking I know, but that is kinda what I like about her.
ANYHOO---6 am pitocin starts. 3 cm. 8am I get the epidural and by 10:45 I am pushing. Pushed for 45 minutes and Taylor was born at 11:52 am! Did have a small episiotomy, but no biggie. Taylor latched on right away and it was amazing! Healthy 7.8 lb 20.5" baby girl! :D
BTW, me who wanted to go natural had to have the anesthegiologist come in 3 times to up the epi!!! :lol: he kept saying are you sure? And the nurses and my doc totally backed me up and said "SHE'S SURE!" :lol:
Night Night girlies!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 01, 2005, 06:32:26 am
Naomi... WooHoo Riley! Way to go! Glad you have the night off Naomi... it sounds like training is going well! How are the children enjoying Janean?
Kate... I know that DH can settle Arwyn much better than I can during the night. I think for sure that she can smell me and wants to nurse for the comfort. Sometimes she does take a full feed though and sometimes she just latches on and falls asleep.
Bec... I can also find amusement in the dictionary... particularly when applying some choice names to "idiot" people.
Christmas cards... I will be sending them out with pictures. We have pictures with Santa this Saturday. Hopefully I can print them off on the computer and still mail them all off to make it overseas in time.
We had a doctor's check-up today. Arwyn has an EAR INFECTION! But... he is not prescribing antibiotics. Just letting it "run its course" as he put it. She also has EZCEMA and he told me to put Glaxxal-Base in her bath instead of soap. AND she has a FISSURE on her poo-poo chute. So... there you have it... the reason for her not sleeping and not pooping. The doctor thinks she is not sleeping due to her cold :roll: and I felt like saying, "What, like for the last 2 months?" Anyhow... now I know what is making my baby so miserable.
Here's to sleeping babies... wishing all of you who are having rough nights a better one tonight.
Post by: FrasersMum on December 01, 2005, 06:34:37 am
OK, i'll play... :lol:
I finished up at work on the Thursday before Easter (Fri being a public holiday), 12 days before my due date, so I could have a little break before the baby arrived. Went to my parents house on Good Friday for afternoon tea. They invited us to stay for dinner and to watch a football game but I said that I was a bit tired so we headed for home. I wanted to get an early night but before I hopped into bed I decided I would finish packing my bags for the hospital. Last thing before I went to bed I asked DH "so are we certain that we are happy with the names we have picked". I wasn't feeling anything at the time but obviously my body knew somethings was up.
I woke at 3am, and thought "ah, I'm having a contraction. OK, it's begun" so I rolled over and looked at the clock so I knew what time I started. At the end of the contraction, immediately my waters broke. I woke DH and said "could you get me a towel" and he sort of grunted a bit. I repeated myself and he got up and sort of stumbled around (I think he still had his eyes closed :D ) and proceeded to try and give me one of the good bath towels. I said, "no, one of the older ones, quickly" and all of a sudden he realised what was going on. He gave me a towel and decided that we would try to go back to sleep for a bit. Well, I couldn't sleep so we got up and watched American Idol that we had taped the night before. I then practiced some relaxation (I had been practicing hypnobirthing and was hoping for a natural delivery). After a bit, I said to DH I guess we should just phone the hospital and let them know that we'll come in a bit later. I then hopped in the shower and asked DH to come in and time the contractions, I thought they were about 5 minutes apart or so. He timed them and they were 1 and a half minutes apart :shock: :shock: So we hightailed it to the hospital
{Just realised this post could go on a very long time so I'll speed up the story a bit :lol: :lol: }
Hypnobirthing was doing great, I was managing really well. Midwife was a b!tch and though that because I wasn't moaning in pain I wasn't progressing - told the doctor so and dr called for pitocin. I didn't want that so asked for some time so think about it. I eventually thought I'll only have that if I can have an epidural because I didn't think I would be able to manage without pain relief with the drip on board. So DH asked if we could speak to my OB but she was delivering another baby. Midwife arranged for the epi guy to come - it took about 2.5 hours because it was a public holiday and no one would come. They finally arrived, I still hadn't seen my Dr, they gave me the epi, finally my Dr came in to check and said turn the epi down, you are 10cm ready to push. I was SO MAD because had I known it was time to go I wouldn't have had the epi. Anyway, started to push, used the mirror which was great except I saw myself tear (a bit disconcerting!!), my beautiful boy arrived after about 10 hours of labour and only half of them intense. I also had the horrible experience of the Dr trying to remove the placenta too quickly - she pulled the cord off it :evil: so then had to dig around to get the placenta out in bits. At that exact moment I was SO GLAD that I'd had the epi. A couple of stiches (I didn't ask how many) but was on cloud nine.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - giving birth was the easiest part of my last 8 months :wink: And I had one whole day off work to relax before my baby arrived!
Chat soon all!
Jo
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 01, 2005, 07:20:28 am
Jo, would love to make the chat tonight, but it's a bit too late for me. Hope things are improving with Fraser?
Bec, I'm another dictionary geek! LOL 8) In fact, for part of my study I'm meant to dive into the dictionary and learn new words every week.
Any recs on good chick lit that's out there at the moment? I feel the need for a good blob-out read when the kids are sleeping during the day.
Post by: becca24 on December 01, 2005, 09:06:18 am
I had a blood problem throughout pregnancy so I was in the clinic getting monitored and bloods tests, scans etc every week. I had 'unkown' antibodies :? I was at the clinic on a friday when I was 7 days overdue and the doc gave me a membrane sweep (ouch). She booked me in for induction on the monday but said I would probably go myself over the weekend. Didn't happen. Went to hospital to get induced Monday morning. Midwife has a feel around, trainee midwife has a feel around (ouch) Doc has feel around decides to break waters. Doc comes back breaks waters (ouch) Midwife sticks the drip in my hand. Labour pains start almost straight away. In the bath, out the bath, in the bath, out the bath, in the bath, out the bath. 7 hours later they say baby is posterior you will have to stop pushing :shock: yeah right :roll: More looking and feeling around (OUCH) lots of hitting myself in the head with the gas mask because that's about how usefull that stuff is :roll: Baby's heart rate dropping. Doc informs me they need to attach something to baby's head to monitor heart rate. I yell at Doc 'NO YOU ARE NOT STICKING YOUR HAND UP THERE ONE MORE TIME MATE' dh tells everyone I need something for the pain (ya think??????) Well I am still waiting for that :roll: Finally they decide baby is not moving so they discuss possibilty of c-sec. Big Boss Dr Woman comes in and says no way, so they suck her out with a vountouse (sp?) (OUCH) Out she pops 7lb 12, 20 inches. Got about 10 thousand stitches (ouch).
Post by: Jayri on December 01, 2005, 12:28:45 pm
I am going to work on pics this weekend, I am going to cheat and scan the pic of Jay and Ri together, the one I got done at sears, put it on a disc, take it to sears and print about 20 copies off for all of the cards I need to do this year. Hopefully it will work.
Well ladies, I will also try to work on the pic thing this weekend to, I must dash, I have to go in early to the bank.
I wil "see" you tonite ladies...man it is getting as if I am rushing home to talk to all of you as well as my family.
Enjoy your day/evening...where ever you are.
Post by: Colesmom on December 01, 2005, 14:35:51 pm
Andrea, Naomi, Bec and Hannah-thanks so much for your support, encouragement, advice on the chat last night. Here is how it went:
6:18 down after 23 minute bedtime battle (went down 12 hours to the minute after waking :shock: )
7:50 wake due to loud printer (bad mommy), settled no prob
10:05 or so, wake and settle no prob.
10:30 wake-decided to feed
2:20 wake and DH settles!!! :shock: :shock: :D more on this below
4:45 wake, feed, up until 5:50, feed again, down at 6:15, sleep until 7.
okay, a much better night although it doesn't look it. After much discussion with the above girlies I decided to keep a feed between 10 and 11pm. Will do pupd until then. I'm not sure why i fed at 4:45am, maybe didn't have the stamina for pupd at the time. Anyway, he was ready to play at that time...SO if i feed at night, no more early am feeds.
now my rave/mini-rant about DH. He got home at 11pm last night so my idea of him settling cole during evening hours were out the window. Oh well. I didn't even have a chance to give him the pupd pointers. Totally shocked me at 2:20 when he put his hand on me and said he'd get him. The rave is that he did it, and in 10 min.! The little rant is that as my head hits the pillow again I hear him say in a high voice "Hey my little boy, what's the matter?" I sit bolt upright in bed and stumble down the hall and he's carrying him around his room :evil: :shock: "what are you doing, don't talk to him, put him down!!" puts him down, cole cries, i say pu, he stops i say pd, he cries i say pu, he stops i say pd. DH sat in the glider once while he was crying. I said to stay with him while he cries. anyway, coached him through 4 pupds and cole went quiet. YAY for DH. he was shocked that he just "shut off" after crying so hard. i had to explain to him not to engage him or he'll just wake up. etc etc. anyway, happy to know that Cole will settle for him. woo hoo! i can go out on saturday (at least until about 10pm)
BEC-how do you even make such a painful story seem positively hilarious (ouch)
Macaire-emailed the list, hope you got it. sheesh, didn't go as smoothly as I thought it would
okay, going to get my coffee. oh-forgot to mention, given that i'd had so much sleep between 11pm and 2:20 or so I lay there staring at the wall thinking of all the things i had to go over with DH :P oh well, at least i was horizontal and not stooped over a crib :!:
Post by: kate585 on December 01, 2005, 16:38:27 pm
Another not so great night...but only 3 wakings this time. :D Better than 5, right? First one at 9:30 or so, figured it was dreamfeed-ish. When I went in, Ryan was sitting in the crib, with his feet hanging out of the slats waiting for me. It looked really funny...I measured the slats and they are small enough, so no worries.
Dh tried to help at 12:20, so I wouldn't feed him, but it did NOT work (we tried for 10 mins. or so) and he said, "We know what works, why not just do it?" So, I did :oops: and it calmed him down enough to go to sleep on his own.
Then again at 3:45-4:30. He was standing up when I went in this time.
Slept in 'til 7:30. Much better than 9:30 so it should be a better day...already down for first nap and has made in one hour, so keep your fingers crossed! Still no sign of teeth, other than the night wakings, red/hot cheek, and swollen gums. I'll keep you posted.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 01, 2005, 16:55:48 pm
Hugs to all who had a rough night last night. DH watched Liv last night so I could do some Christmas shopping with my girlfriends. I sooo needed a night out of the house!
Is anyone else's LO experiencing stranger/separation anxiety? Liv does great when we're here alone...she'll play on her own for a long time and be perfectly content in her room, her crib, or her exersaucer. But she doesn't like new people AT ALL. She's OK seeing them, but she doesn't want them to touch her or hold her. I love that she knows me and wants me to hold her. But I also want her to learn to be independent.
Rant: My cousin's fiance stopped by this morning to visit. Liv did fine until the fiance tried to touch her, then she started fussing. Not a major tantrum, just a little whine. The fiance said, "Oh my, are we a little spoiled?" And I just wanted to say, "No. She's 7 months old, and she has no idea who you are since she hasn't seen you since she was 3 months old!"
My niece was a very clingy toddler, and the whole family gave my SIL a terrible time about how she was spoiling her. Now she's a very well-adjusted 3-year-old who loves going to preschool. I don't want to face the same criticism with Liv, but it's hard to get her used to other people when it's pretty much me and her all day long. We don't have any family close by, and all my friends work, so I we don't see them on a regular basis. We put her in the nursery at church, and she does great there. And I go to a Mom's group every week, and she loves watching the other kids play and is fine as long as I'm close by.
Anyone going through the same thing? Anyone with older kids have any advice? Am I expecting too much independence from her too soon?
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 01, 2005, 17:03:10 pm
Traci... I am glad you had some success last night and hooray for your DH!
Also, I am in the same boat as you, Traci. We had a better night :roll: for those of you having through sleeps, you will probably wonder what is better about it. But, all is relative!
7:00 pm down
8:17 wake DH settle in 3 min
9:18 wake DH settle in 6 min
10:00 wake DH goes to settle... back out in 36 min. feed and back to sleep, woke and back down again by 11:06
12:50 wake pu/pd
3:10 feed
4:06 wake pu/pd
5:15 wake pu/pd
6:30 up for the day
At least, I didn't have to sleep sitting up again though. Funny thing is, I am more tired this morning... probably from the pu/pd.
Off to nap when she naps!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 01, 2005, 17:10:02 pm
Don't worry about those kinds of comments. Your cousin's fiance will know when she has kids of her own. Then, you get to bite your tongue, or let it all out :P .
And yes, Arwyn is doing what Liv is doing. At the mom & baby drop-in, she is fine as long as I am close by. If my parents come over to baby-sit or whatever, I stick around for about 10 -15 minutes and then say a proper goodbye to her (kiss, hug and bye, bye). New people don't really bug her too much... she will let them pick her up but then will reach for me if she is not comfortable.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 01, 2005, 17:21:29 pm
I'm sorry you're having rough nights, but glad last night was better. Now go get some sleep!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 01, 2005, 18:18:20 pm
Ankie and Traci-sooo glad you guys had a better night. Thank goodness huh?
Us on the other hand had a horrible night. She woke at 10:30 and settled her down in 10 minutes. Woke at 1:30 settled her down in 10 minutes again. Then about 15 minutes later she was up again, but she was doing a sort of mantra/phantom cry for about 30 seconds, then back to sleep, then up again...it went on and off like that for about 3 hours!!! :shock: :shock: There really wasn't anything we could do because as soon as seh would start to crying, by the time we would get up she would stop. We gave her some motrin and didn't seem to help obviously. We finally just decided to stay in bed but it was hard to listen to her cry on and off all night (It was NOT CIO btw, if it sounds that way?)
I called the ped. because I really think it has to do wiht the runny nose/congestion/cold type thing she has that has been going on for almost 2 weeks. THey said if she has another bad night to bring her in tomorrow because it might be the start of an ear infection :(
Anki-poor little Arwyn. I had a fissure after giving birth and it was not very pleasant. It finally went away on its own, but definitely a good reason why she would be having sleep and poop problems. What the doctor say to do for treatment?
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 01, 2005, 18:36:28 pm
About the ear infection though... no medication (freaked my mom out and she brought over some Chinese medicine, which I refused to give to Arwyn). I don't know if any of you have smelled or tasted traditional Chinese medicine but it is the most revolting thing. Karen, do YKWIM? Having said it is revolting though, I take it and would not mind Arwyn taking it when she is at least 5. I can't imagine what this stuff would do to her immature digestive system!!
Post by: Erin M on December 01, 2005, 18:59:46 pm
Andrea - When Katie got her ear infection she was super fussy the day/night before - not all out crying for the most part, just really, really fussy.
Traci - glad to see you're making some progress with Cole. Hopefully things will sort themselves out soon (especially now that DH can lend a hand too!)
Bec - Katie had one of those things stuck into her head when she was being born to monitor her heart rate. They kept losing it on the monitor and I was having a gazillion contractions (well, not really but it seemed like it) and the doctor was worried, so in went the little electrode. I think they broke my water at the same time.
My house is a disaster. Being sick this week, along with Katie being sick means that nothing got done. I finally unpacked this morning from being away last week and am slowly tackling everything else (and getting SO much done now, can't you tell...) :lol:
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 01, 2005, 19:09:54 pm
Ankie and Traci - Yay for you both. You may even see I tiny spot of light at the end of the tunnel. That's great news.
We had an improvement last night as he only woke up at 2.50am, and then started his day at 5.42am. At 2.50am he was reasonably quiet and perhaps I should have left him longer, but I went to try to resettle before he got too upset. Of course he went quiet as soon as I PU, then PD and he'd cry. This went on for about 15 mins and I thought ok, so maybe you need pain meds. So gave him Pamol. Normally this quietens him straight away, it didn't, so I put him back in his cot and went out to get the bottle. He was screaming when I left the room, but within 1 minute he was quiet! I waited for him to start again, but he didn't. So was it the meds? Was it just that he was now ready to go to sleep. The other times I'd left the room he would keep going and getting louder. So, not sure what worked. But I've decided to take him back to the Dr cos his nose is still running lots. I know I've got headaches and my nose is still blocked too, so maybe he is in pain/discomfort. Surely there's some reason for the screams??? :?
Then, when he woke at 5.42am (what is it about that magic number) I gave him his bottle and put him back in bed. 15mins later still talking/whimpering. So I got up, got dressed and put him in his buggy and we went for a walk! YES AT 6AM. I figured if he was tired then he'd go back to sleep, like he does in the afternoons if he needs a sleep. But alas, no, he wasn't tired. This makes me think at 5.42am when he wakes he really is ready to start his day. I may try this again next week but not give him his bottle first, go straight into the buggy and start walking. I'll have the bottle ready though incase he starts waking up the neighbourhood while we're walking! :lol: :oops: :lol:
Finally DH is home today. He'll be home before lunch hopefully, but then has to go back to work until 4.30pm. We'll probably go to Wellington tonight ready for our big gardening cleaning up all weekend. So I won't be seeing you much thisweekend. :cry:
Oh, I don't think I"ve told you Daniel's latest development. Crawling backwards! I've heard they do this before going forwards. He can now go all over the lounge, but so far is not venturing too far. Hasn't reached my Christmas tree yet. We're going to have to babyproof lounge now though. And he's starting to reach/climb up objects to see what's on top. Hasn't quite mastered that yet though and only tried a few times, but it won't be long. I just hope he crawls forward while I'm watching him, not DH!!! After the week I've had I deserve it I say!!!
As for Christmas cards, I'll do them just not sure when :oops: I meant to buy some yesterday but forgot. So now won't get some until next week, unless the gardening goes well and I get to go shopping too.
Oh dear, just put Daniel down but I dont think he's ready, I'll get him up before he gets too upset. He can definitely do 3 hours up now, and it's only been 2.5h.
Bye for now
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 01, 2005, 19:12:38 pm
Ankie--Poor little Arwyn!!! Bless her heart. I hope she gets some comfort soon.
Off to do some grocery shopping.
Post by: Erin M on December 01, 2005, 19:34:00 pm
Just a quick question - I got my ped a thank you card, but I don't know what to write (and I'm generally pretty bad at things like that). Any suggestions for a nice man who took time out of his Thanksgiving dinner to discuss my child with me?
THanks ladies!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 01, 2005, 19:57:31 pm
"Thank you so much for taking time out from your Thanksgiving dinner to talk with me. I am greatful for your understanding and help during this time."
Post by: Colesmom on December 01, 2005, 21:38:02 pm
Smuggies has a runny nose :oops: Guess we shouldn't have stayed at my friends house the other day with her toddler who had a cold. He's in okay spirits though. A bit stuffed up for nap 2, held him at the 30 minute mark to clear him up then he slept another 40 minutes when I put him down and then another 20 minutes while on the boob. Best 2:30 feed he's had in a couple of weeks.
He slept in until 7 today, after being up from 4:45-6:00. Do you guys think I should keep bedtime the same at 6:00 or maybe push it back a bit to 6:15-6:30? I know I should read his cues...but that's hard sometimes. Anyway, thoughts about when your little one sleeps in? Kate, you went through this yesterday...should i keep him up a little longer? Maybe if he fights going down I'll get him back up. hmmmph. guess i just answered my own question.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 01, 2005, 21:54:27 pm
Traci-if Jackson ever sleeps in he is usually is still tired around the same bedtime I sometimes will be able to put bedtime back maybe 15 min but that is usually tops.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 01, 2005, 22:48:37 pm
IMHO I'd be going for a 6.30pm bedtime, hey I'm now trying 7pm, but I wouldn't do much sooner than 6.30pm. According to 'the books' at our LO's age they only sleep 10-11 hours average at night, so anything longer than that is a bonus. Of course, there are the exceptions when babies sleep 12-13 happily..... grrrrrrrrr..... just kidding.
Yay - DH has just got home. They flew over in a 6 helicopter (or 7 didn't really count) formation. Right over our house. VERY COOL :D Very loud, but Daniel was fine with it. We then went down to meet him and say hi. Daniel wasn't too sure. I guess it's the longest he's not seen him for, apart from when he was only a week old, and was kind of 'holding back' no big smiles or giggles for him yet. I'm sure it will change when he comes back to the house though in about 30 mins. Meanwhile, he's needing my attention so better go.
Take care everyone.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 01, 2005, 23:40:53 pm
Nancy, like the others have said, don't stress over Liv being clingy, it actually helps them to know that you will be there for her rather than pushing her into a situation that she's not comfortable. Your 3yo niece obviously got what she needed at the time and is now a well adjusted girl because of it. We can help them be independent gently when they're ready. Just ignore other family members comments about her becoming spoilt and keep doing what you're doing. :wink: There was an interesting "discussion" LOL in the Activity forum a few months back that you might find interesting. I will post the link soon.
http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/how-to-encourage-independent-play-vt41634.html
Post by: Judy on December 02, 2005, 00:44:35 am
Here's my take. First off people need to stop it being all about them - babies do not dislike grandma nor do they understand the relationship of 'grandma'. Grownups need to grow up! :)
I just *love* those statements :roll: "she's spoiled", "oh she must be hungry", "oh is she tired?", "oh you hold her too much" :roll: anything but acknowledging that babies are most comfortable with their moms. AND back to the first point - everyone makes it about them so if they say she's spoiled then the crying can't be because she doesn't like them :roll:
ALL of my girls have been or ARE like this and it's just a simple fact of life. I get so tired of people making excuses for them or telling people in front of them that they are 'cautious' 'shy' etc. etc. How about they are just them and this is just how they feel right now and hey, how about that's ok and just plain fine too.
Ok vent over :)
Haley - now if Daniel is a bit unsure of dh after not seeing him for awhile - hows about breaking out 'the box' :wink:
Gosh as for bedtime Traci - geez all I can think of is I just don't keep track of things very well... I can't remember what time or length the naps were today :oops: and I've never factored morning wakeup into bedtime :oops:
Ok so anyone want some funny stuff?? Gosh. DH's mom is here now till Sunday and I must say she's so relaxed about everything and really let's the girls just do whatever without nagging at them or trying to make them do things her way etc.. So she's trying to get them in the shower downstairs while I bath the babies and they're running around screeching while naked :) I come out and go down and tell her it really looks as though we've lost control... there's a BOX of honey nut cheerios scattered on the kitchen floor, crumbs in the carpet by the stairs, Sarah has waited too long to run up to the bathroom and dribbled on each step then left a huge puddle at the top of the stairs, walked back down leaving footprints on each step. MIL just says "we don't care" and laughs. :)
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 02, 2005, 01:01:47 am
Nikki - I've started reading that post you linked up. Very interesting, haven't got time to finish it though so will go back to it. Isn't it funny how one question can cause so much healthy debate. I've often wondered about the dropping and picking up game. At what age do they 'learn' that it's a game, not just 'if I drop this mummy picks it up'. If I keep reading maybe they'll answer the question.
Along these lines, what sort of age does NO mean something? Now that Daniel's nearly mobile I guess there's going to be things that require NO, although I want to try to eliminate most things like that from the lounge. My thoughts on how to teach him what he's not to do is if I say no and remove his hand/him from the situation. Would this be right? At what age range can we expect them to actually understand no and then learn from that? For all I know it might not be until they're 2 or 3???? :oops:
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 02, 2005, 01:08:55 am
Ankie: I am sorry to hear about poor Arwin. I hope she feels better soon. I too had a fissure after delivery and it took a long time to go away. Did the Dr recommend a stool softener for her? Are you giving her more fibre foods (prunes, apples, pears) and staying away from the foods that "bung" you up (bananas, rice)?? When Carter wasn't pooping we gave him lots of oatmeal!!!
Anyway, I am off to watch Will & Grace and ER and then bed for me so I will talk to all you mommas tomorrow! Have a good night everyone! :lol:
Oh ya, almost forgot ... not sure if I should say anything, don't want to jinx myself or seem like I am rubbing it in but Carter had his first EVER afternoon nap that lasted longer than 1.5 hours yesterday and then another one today!!! I hope it lasts! His afternoon naps are always short (20 mins - 1.5 hrs occasionally) so I was very surprised and happy!!
Ok, that's it - good night!
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 02, 2005, 01:34:18 am
My brain hurts now though. :shock:
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 01:40:59 am
great post Judy- I love your parenting style. And your MIL seems pretty cool although I think I'm more like your mom :oops: okay, not THAT bad...but the pee may have gotten to me. :D
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 02, 2005, 02:31:11 am
Traci... good luck tonight. Perhaps go with the flow for Cole's bedtime if it is within an hour's time? I don't know if you are comfortable with that. You probably log this info... do you see a pattern or a common time emerging?
Arwyn used to go to bed at 7 and wake at 6:30 but now, I know Arwyn's internal clock tells her to go to bed at 6 pm, no matter what time she got up in the morning or what time she got up from her last nap. Doesn't matter what I do (with the exception of completely messing up her day), she will start to get cranky at 5:30 and want her bath, book, BF and bed.
Okay... tonight, after I get 2 tbsp of carrot, 25 Cheerios, and 2 oz of EBM into her tonight, I ask DH to cut some cheese to give to Arwyn. I tell him to cut them into long thin strips but he feels he wants to cube it very small. I protest but I let him do it. He gives them to Arwyn who manages one quite well. I was still worried... my worries come to fruition when she chokes, coughs and THROWS UP all of her dinner! And this is the first solid food she has had in 3 days!!! :roll: Jeez Louise!
Kate, Traci, Jo... anybody else out there having difficult nights... fingers crossed!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 02:32:56 am
Judy--I read your post and almost said out loud, "Right on, sister...you go!" In other words, I totally agree with your comments...wholeheartedly. And your story was HILARIOUS!!! Thanks so much for sharing.
Well, we have more teeth coming in. I thought something was up. She's been a little "off" yesterday and today. Not fussy or anything (didn't have problems with the first two either), but she's been really restless and tugging at her ears and slobbering on EVERYTHING!!! It took 45 min to settle her for bed tonight. She usually goes right down. At least she's not cranky...just won't settle. What a little crazy girl!!!
Hope everyone has better nights!
Post by: hayes on December 02, 2005, 05:44:11 am
Strange things happening around here... screaming the last two nights when put to bed, Ben gets settled quickly but when DH walks out of the room the screams resume. Lots of ear pulling and drooling and some crying when eating solids. I know you may say teeth does anyone think he should be checked for an ear infection?
Judy-How are things going with your MIL any more funny situations? My MIL only makes me cringe. I usually need to leave the room when she has an extended amount of interaction with Ben. It is usually very limited. Thank goodness she lives a plane ride away.
Nancy-Ben is going through the same thing with SA. He does okay at the nursery at Church but unfortunaly Church is at the beginning of his nap time so we have some very interesting Sundays. I also have a very "dear" :evil: friend of mind who works in the nursery who is constantly making comments about my overtired son and my overpacked diaper bag. I almost apologized to her in a very sarcastic way for not cleaning the bag out for her. i just leave all of the toys he takes with him when he goes to a sitters house once a week. ARRRGGG
Traci-Got the list, thank you thank you. Sorry for all of the emails. :shock:
Erin-Your thank you to the ped. sounded great, I always go with over thanking and straight from the heart.
Ankie-Ben was playing with the fireplace tools today (bad mommie)and he looked over at me when he first got there with questioning eyes. I let him experiment for 2 minutes then took him away from the area.
Nikki-Thanks for the link to Seperation anxiety. DId anyone else feel a bit of heat coming off of that conversation?
OFf to bed. Once again won't be making the chat, we have company coming into town. Hope everyone has a relaxing and sleep filled weekend. Lots of rain here so maybe everyone will stay in their jammies.
macaire
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 02, 2005, 06:35:46 am
Judy, I now know all about "broken food" - what the heck is that all about??? :roll: Fortunately I managed to "fix" Nathan's piece of cheese today when it split. :lol: OMG, I thought the world was going to cave in when his cheese was broken! BTW, how's your Unconditional Parenting book going?
For anyone interested, I never went into parenting with any real preconceived ideas about a lot - smacking (spanking) was something I thought everyone does if needed (even a tap on the hand), leaving to cry was normal and expected, not letting babies get "spoilt" was a necessity. I'm so glad I found BW in time to and to learn otherwise from the wise women on this site before the need arose.
Post by: james030405 on December 02, 2005, 09:45:21 am
Ankie, I give James slices of cheese and he copes really well with this. I don't think I would be comfortable giving cubes of cheese just yet. James is also starting separation anxiety. He is doing great when it is just him and me, but someone else comes he get very cuddily (which I like :D )
Anyway, we are down to using cups for every milk feed except for his one before bed and it is going great. No more bottles (almost).
Hope everyones nights are getting easier. My heart goes out to you who are having sleepless nights. :oops:
Have a lovely weekend, I have written my cards but no photos I am afraid. Will send next week.
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: james030405 on December 02, 2005, 10:06:54 am
Reading Judys story reminded me about the other night with james. we always let him have a crawl around after his bath with no clothes on. He loves this and we have had a couple of wees until last night. He was standing holding onto his cot, when I heard him grunt and out it came :lol: Now, we have hardwood floors and a rug in his bedroom and can you guess where where he did it? Yes, on the rug. I was concerned about getting it off James and DH was asking me (through dry retches :D ) "how do I pick it up?" :D :D :shock: I said to get some paper towel, he did this and then I found him taking the rug out sides and hosing it off. :D :lol: :lol: Hence, the rug is still wet and James got his nappy on very quickly tonight after his bath.
This situation led me to wonder about toilet training at 9mths. Is anyone game enought to try? Do you know anyone who has tried it?
Hope there was not TMI, but I thought it was funny.
Chat soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 15:32:02 pm
As for TT at 9 months. I'm going to give it a whirl I think. Maybe we'll see what my energy level is like in a month :D
As for us, good sleep from 7:15-10:05pm, fed, back down and then waking every hour from 1-5:20. Settled well each time thankfully. Held to sleep once actually now that I think about it and I fell asleep in the glider. hmmmm, maybe that's the reason for my sore neck. :? fed at 5:20, back down and I thought he'd sleep til 6:30 but nope up at 5:50. Thankfully he just took a 1.5 hour nap. Yay! Really needed a long one since he went down early due to early waking. Like your idea of set nap times Lisa, but I don't think Cole is ready for that. I find he gets too tired and can't get past the 45 min. mark. Oh well, in time.
Anyone else find themselves looking at their lo thinking they've grown up too fast? He's sitting playing contentedly with his macaroni shaker and just looks like such a big boy :cry: :)
Thankfully runny nose didn't hinder sleep too much. I don't think that caused the wakings anyway.
oH yes, a Q-does anyone else stay with their LO all the way to sleep? I still have to stay...as he screams when I leave.(so yes macaire, i know what you mean) This is going over a week now. Do you think it will get better when his teeth come through? Sure hope so!
off to get coffee. got a touch of Cole's cold and a kink in my neck. There is snow on the ground. Can you say jammie day!
OH-for those that may be wondering-Holly is up north at her parents. She left me a message yesterday. just wanted to let you know she didn't ditch us!
and one more thing...last list going out today. Final addition is albertasweetpea (Michelle)
Post by: Judy on December 02, 2005, 15:34:14 pm
Ok so you want more funny stories eh? Well here's how our morning started... 4.45AM Kaia woke up. I managed to get her to quiet down and go back to sleep in about 15min but not before she woke up Hannah. I was in and out, she would fuss then lie quiet and finally at 6.15am I went in and they were both chatting and had pooped. Ok so then I hear Sarah crying. She never wakes that early so I was worried she'd peed the bed. Nope :) But likely needed to go. I asked she only wanted daddy and I got screamed at "noooooooo mommy!!! Go!! Want Daaaadyyyyy" So she got up and I said that Daddy was now in Germany and got a stern "NO!! Not Germany. No more Germany!!". Finally calmed down and was willing to hug me. I asked, suggested, pleaded, reminded her to pee before I started to feed. "NOOOOO not pee!!!" ok ... so no sooner do I latch on the girls and she runs down the hall. I hear the pee but it doesn't sound so much like it's going in the toilet. Then I hear the feet splashing and dancing in the puddle of pee :roll:. This goes on for awhile and I keep saying to myself 'oh well doesn't matter now if I wash the bathroom floor and the hall floor it's really all the same'. So she comes traipsing out to where I am but I stop her at the edge of the kitchen 'keep your wet feet off the carpet' so she touches the carpet with her toes "just with my toes mommy" :)
So I bathed her, then washed the floors and sat back down to finish nursing all before 7am. MIL sat down and laughed "off to a good start eh?" :)
We're getting a big snow storm today - Traci you getting this? Guess we're housebound today (she says as if she actually gets out on a good day LOL)
Gotta scoot - Sarah's having a rough day, overtired. Trying to get socks and shoes on both feet and both hands!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 15:37:11 pm
I think Liv has just started to pick up on "no" the last week or so. For awhile now, I've been saying "no ma'am" (not in a scolding way, but firm and loving) when she does something she's not supposed to (usually dangerous). Then I'll follow it with what she SHOULD do. For example, "No ma'am. We don't touch the Christmas tree, we just look at it." (She loves to roll toward the tree and try to pull on it.) (I add the "ma'am" because my family is from the South and 'yes ma'am/sir' 'no ma'am/sir' is big down there. I like that it is respectful and want to pass that on to Liv) Anyway, last night I was making dinner and she was playing in the floor in the living room (a few feet away). I had just moved her back to the middle of the floor, because she had rolled up against the couch and got mad that she couldn't go any farther. (She's not crawling yet, but she's made rolling a new art form.) I went back into the kitchen to stir something on the stove. When I turned back around, she was lying under the Christmas tree, holding on to one of the branches, just looking at me, waiting for me to say something. What a stinker!!!
Post by: Richelle on December 02, 2005, 15:45:39 pm
Warning - LOOOONG Post! I need a fix it has been a few days!
Phewwwww I finally caught up, I missed alot!! I also read the thread Nikki posted re. independent play - thanks for that Nikki, it totally reinforces my desision to stay at home with Sophie to nuture our relationship and her development. I also have only now had the benefit of reading some of Teddy's posts and am bummed that she is no longer a part of this site :( !
I love love hearing everyone's birth stories funny enough!! You couldn't pay me when I was pregnant to listen to/watch or go to birthing classes (mind you when I was pregnant I worked 60 to 70 hours a week :shock: :oops: ) I wouldn't even watch 'A Baby Story'!! Not to leave anyone out but Bec I was creased up reading your story - how in the heck can you make that experience sound funny?!! Also, what is this about gas? I have never heard or seen that? Is it to relax??
Another question for everyone: Who found out the sex of their lo and why or why not?
I found out as soon as possible (I think at 16 weeks). I am one of those nosy people though that has to know everything, KWIM? I knew that my OB would know and I couldn't stand the thought of him knowing and me not 8) :wink: ! If I know where I have presents hiding I will peek ect...Next one I think I may try to leave it as a surprise.
Anywho - first off, the packing went OK and DH tells me we are all moved and he didn't forget anything (we'll see!!) and Sophie was a superstar traveler! Everyone sitting next to us on both 4+ hour flights said they have never seen a better baby :D 8) !! We got to Saskatoon (-18 degrees by the way) at midnight, went to a hotel and put Sophie in the hotel pack n play and she went straight to sleep, although her first walk outside here woke her up and she really did not appreciate being put into a stay puft marshmallow suit while 1/2 asleep!
I am so sorry to those living with winter for the next months but how in the heck do you stay sane dressing these babies up everyday, I hope Sophie gets used to it!
I also thought Sophie would really need some adjustment time here for the climate/different house/bed, travel mararthon ect.. but nope. She is in a pack n play here as well and goes straight down for her naps and last night went to bed at 7PM and I had to wake her this AM at 630 :shock: 8) !
My mom was so surprised (did I mention that this was her surprise b'day present from me?) - started crying which I have seen her do only once before at a funeral and it is great to be here. We are headed to the lake tonight for the weekend to celebrate my mom's b'day so and I'm not sure if I will bring the laptop, so may miss the chat tonight. It is always great when we 'get together' i hate to miss it. I also wanted to mention that with all this craziness my cards will be late :oops: ! I can't decide on a picture. I may try and get them done here as they will post faster from Canada than the Caribbean.
Geez, such a long post and I haven't even got to anyone yet!!
Judy`-`LOL and your MIL, another house that I would love to be a fly on the wall in.
Ankie - I hope Arwyn is feeling better! An ear infection and a fissure for the love of Pete...the poor thing!
Traci - I play the 'analyze everything' game as well! All you can do is try different things until you are both comfortable, I sounds like everything is settling down and well done DH for the settling!
Naomi - Well done Riley and still waiting on the hot mama pic of your new do/wardrobe!
Kate - How are things over there? Any better?
Hayley - Hope you and DH are doing :wink: well!!
Nancy - Sophie takes a few minutes now to really regard who is aproaching her and/or holding her and I think that the anxiety is not far behind. I say sod it to whomever thinks that you need their inoput, I believe it is impossible to spoil a baby!!
That is it for now - I am sure I will be back today before we go AGAIN! Hope everyone is good good good!
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 15:46:25 pm
DH has his company Christmas dinner tonight too so I should be at chat ladies.
Post by: Judy on December 02, 2005, 15:49:33 pm
I did the same with Sarah and then by 16months she was in pullups and telling us when she had to go. Biggest benefit was that there was no fear of the toilet at all.
She was out of diapers completely by 18months day/night. Although we still do have some accidents (as mentioned earlier :))
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 16:11:29 pm
We found out we were having a girl at about 18 weeks. I'm a "planner" and I didn't feel I could adequately "plan" for the baby without knowing its gender. I'm so glad we did.
Another question on the topic, did you "know" what you were having before you found out? I had always wanted boys, but whenever I thought about the baby, I would think of it as a girl, which I thought was weird. So, when the ultrasound tech said, "It's definitely a girl." I wasn't surprised. DH, on the other hand was a little stunned. His face said, "A girl?!?! I don't know anything about girls!! What do I do with a girl!?!?" He now admits that did go through his head. But of course we wouldn't trade her for any boy in the world now. And she has Daddy wrapped around her little finger already!
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 16:27:35 pm
okay, maybe we will get outside. feeling cooped up.
OH sheesh-Q re: humidifiers...anyone have one in los room? We just bought one and it says not to put in a closed childs room-risk of over humidity :? maybe i have to buy one specifically for his room? wanted to put it in his room because his snot dried out last night and thought that might be uncomfortable. mmmm, snot. the things we discuss here!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 02, 2005, 16:49:49 pm
I'll be at the chat tonight for sure!!
macaire...to me it totally sounds like ben has an ear infection. I'd go get it checked.
Snot....Jack has been having a very runny nose lately. His whole nostril will get plugged off. I've been using Q-tips lately to get them out. How do these lo's get such big boogers???!!!!!
We didn't find out the sex of Jackson. But I had a pretty strong feeling before he was born that it was a boy. Jackson wasn't even on our short list of names for boys. But he didn't look like any of the names we had picked out....Liam, Aiden, Ethan. He just looked like a Jack. A wrinkly old man. :D
I might be meeting up with Jody today....very excited. I hope it works with Jack.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 02, 2005, 16:56:41 pm
I have just been in a funk for the last few days. Thinking about going back to work and gearing up for it is really depressing me.
When I got pg, I knew I would, at the very least, take the rest of the school year off, and through the summer. I also knew for sure I wasn't going to go back in Sept, but it took me awhile to decide when I would go back, and even longer to make my decision public. I wanted to take the whole year and go back Sept 2006 but after weighing the pros and cons,(pre-beauftiful baby in my arms :( ) finally decided it would be better to go back mid year. I would be allowed to keep my position, my classroom, etc. We could use the money etc, etc...
Another factor in my decision was parents of kids at my school, I teach in a very small community where everyone knows everyone. There was only one other choice for a 4th grade teacher for these people, and not a very good one. Parents were very vocal about wanting me as their child's teacher. I wish I didn't care, but I guess it had an effect on me.
So like I said, all of this added up to my decision to go back "mid year". After informing my principal, he talked me into coming back after the first tri-mester, which is why I go back at such an odd time.
So that's the background. I feel totally obligated to go back, and frankly at this point, I think it is financially necessary, although had I made a different decision, we could have made it work (that is hard to know).
So I keep thinking, I will go back, finish this year off and then reevaluate for next year. It's not forever, I have lots of breaks etc...
But I am just devestated about leaving my child. It just doesn't even seem real that someone else is going to be caring for my child more often than I will. I am just a wreck about it.
Of course I thought...oh I will be desparate to get back to work. and...it's good for a mother to go back and for a child to have realtionships with other people...and...children shouldn't get too dependant on their mothers. They need to learn how to let others care for them. In fact I have been so awful to friends in the past who have chosen to stay home (Bec..I have eaten a lot of pre-baby statements)
Now with all this talk on the thread about Separation anxiety (which Sophie is definately experiencing...it breaks my heart when I see that panicked look on her face)
I just...argh...I'm just in a funk about it. I have been occupying myself with the minutia...lunch menus...diaper bag checklists etc...but I cannot deny the fact that I am just really truly sad that I cannot coninue to be the #1 caregiver to my child.
Thanks for listening. Anyone have any sage advice, or words to make me feel better?
Even hugs are much appreciated.
Thanks.
Hannah
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 02, 2005, 17:23:50 pm
On the same note, I know what it is like to be a teacher... plan one day that you stay late to prep everything in sight. I used to do this at least once a week, then if something comes up and I have to leave early, I know that the next lessons are prepared (usually for up to a week at a time). Also, if you have teacher assistants (we don't anymore), get them to help you out with routine tasks, then you know they are taken care of (i.e. putting worksheets in duotangs, sticker-ing work, putting notices into student mailboxes, etc.)
Take care of yourself whenever you need to too. Learn to say "no" to extra-curricular activities, clubs, other meetings, etc. It will be hard, especially in a small community. I teach in a very small school so I understand that in your very small staff, you feel obliged but it is temporary until you feel ready to share your time again.
I hope this helps a little bit. I am a bit anxious myself so, when the time comes, I am sure you will be a pro at it and I will be coming to you for some support! Lots of {{{{HUGS}}}} to you, Hannah.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 17:40:08 pm
Traci--we ended up getting a whole-house humidifer (our house isn't that big). The air is REALLY dry in our house, and DH and I are both sensitive to it (dry skin, dry nasal passages, etc.) We had one in our room that we ran at night, so instead of getting another one for her room, we got a larger one that works for the entire house. It works pretty good. On really cold nights that the heater runs, we run our humidifier too, sort of as backup I guess.
Did everyone pick names before their LO arrived, or did you wait? We had it narrowed to 3 when I went in to labor. (We also had a difficult time finding girls names we liked, but had a ton of boys names!!) They were: Reagan, Aubrey, and Olivia. It was funny because each week we would like a different one. I joke that if she'd come a week earlier her name would have been Aubrey instead. I didn't like the fact that Olivia was in the top 5 most common names, but it was one of the few that DH and I REALLY liked, and it helped that we don't actually know anyone with a child named Olivia.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 02, 2005, 17:53:48 pm
We picked out names before we were pg!! Yes, we are both anal retentive. However... the boy's name we picked was James Ethan. Then, a friend had a baby and named him Ethan Jacob... then another one, Ethan James... so... that name was out the window. Then it was James Zachary. James is my DH's name and his father's so... I like tradition.
We also picked Arwyn's name early. James loved "Arwen" from LOTR, the elfin princess. I made him prove to me it was a "real" name before I would agree on it. :wink: It is... so, it stayed. I picked "Ophelia" from Midsummer Night's Dream (my favourite Shakespeare play). The spelling of Arwen changed to Arwyn after she was born and we asked our friends and family for their opinion. The "y" makes it "look" more feminine.
We did not find out Arwyn was a girl until she was born. All through my pregnancy, we thought she was a he. We referred to her as he, him the whole 9 months. We didn't know, but I was so sure! Doesn't matter though, we love her just the same!
Post by: Richelle on December 02, 2005, 18:01:19 pm
2. Hannah, I could have been writing your post word for word 5 months ago. I did it with an open mind, knowing that DH could fully support us (in every way) if I decided to pack it in. I too made alot of decisions pre-baby that were a little bit too final, lessons learned I guess. I had enormous pressure as well to get back to work from so many different angles and I considered all of these but left out the most important; ME! I think you need to give it a try and always know that you control what goes on in your life no one else and as long as you are confident and happy with your decision then it will reflect on Sophie. What helped me was giving myself time 'milestones' to make it easier. For example, when I went back I said to myself, "Self, you have 2 weeks to try and get back into the flow of things, do not dwell on your decision, come wholehearted to where you are RIGHT NOW and deal with your anxieties in 2 weeks." Then I would go another 2 weeks ect ect...KWIM?
{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}} to you!
Lisa I forgot to say ealier that i was LOL at James pooing on the floor!!
Have I mentioned that my lips are chapped and Sophies cheeks and chin are :shock: :? Was it auqafor or something else I should look for for super dry skin?
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 02, 2005, 18:11:04 pm
Richelle. Your post was not insensitive at all, I totally understand. I also really like you idea about 2 weeks at a time. You are right. I do control my decisions and if it's just too hard, then I can change my mind. If the parents of my students don't understand a parent wanting to be with her child...well..I guess that's their problem. But for now, 2 weeks at a time, I love it.
Ankie. Great ideas about time management and saying no. I already have two "extras" and honeslty, I am going to say no to everything else! There is a meeting on the day I get back..optional, and I am just not going to go. My priorities are elsewhere...at 3:30...I am thinking Sophie, not school. Tough cookies people. The prep day idea is really good too. I can do that on the days when MIL has Sophie.
And thanks everyone for the hugs. I really appreciate it...like I said keep em coming :)
Can't wait to chat with you tonight.
Also...Aiden was one of our boy names too!!!! Funny huh? We found out Sophie was a girl asap. Sophia/Sophie was always my girl name...kinda wnated to name Hannah but thought it was too, oh I don't know, something. Also didn't want" little hannah" or hannah jr. ? lol
uh oh, baby awake.
Thanks you guys. I would seriously be lost without you bw's.
Hannah
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 18:28:28 pm
I think we are all truly blessed, and I think Richelle is right...the ultimate decision is what is best for you and your baby. You can't do anything b/c others are pressuring you. Stand your ground and don't be afraid to stand up for your family, and your own sanity!
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 18:33:59 pm
as for humidifiers. We have a whole house one but it's a cold air humidifier and I don't like it. The one we just bought is a warm air one. Ankie-humid air makes the air feel warmer btw, regardless of whether it's cold or warm air. It feels cooler right near the cold air one though. HTH
To be honest about my feelings going back to work (sorry to hijack your topic hannah):
I don't want to go back to my current job. hate the place and it's not family friendly. But I think if I were to find the right place with the right work and hours I wouldn't hesitate to go back. I honestly doubt whether I'm cut out for this motherhood thing and it's tearing me up. I always thought my parents had kids because it was what they were supposed to do. They don't really get involved in our lives and although they love us I don't remember them "playing" with us, doing homework etc. We didn't have the easter bunny, we did halloween but never a pumpkin etc. No fun childhood stuff like that. I sooooooooooo don't want to be my parents!
I just feel as though all I do is think about Cole's sleep! I worry about it constantly and cannot relax. MIL is coming to watch Cole tomorrow evening and i"m thinking of all the things i have to tell her. It's freaking me out. She's had 5 boys for crying out loud-you'd think I would think she could handle it. which she can of course.
Maybe i'll feel different when he's older and can communicate and stuff? I love him to bits, I really do, but I just find myself not interested in playing with him all the time. I do play with him of course, but can't do so the whole time he's awake or I'd go bonkers. Someone please tell me I'm not alone here. Maybe it stems from me NEVER getting out? I mean, I've had maybe 3 outings of more than 5 hours since he's been born.
Gosh-this has nothing to do with going back to work :oops: I just hope I'm a good mommy and that I grow to want to spend more time with him. It makes me feel so horrible right now, and resentful.
okay, maybe we can discuss this at chat. clearly i need some rest or AF is around the corner. i'm all blubbery.
again, sorry hannah- you just really got me thinking.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 02, 2005, 18:34:27 pm
Baby's sex: well I suck in the intuitive department! I'm also a planner and hate surprises. With Nathan I could have sworn I was having a girl, found out at 18wks she was a he and totally shocked, mourned a little for the girl but just fell in love with the idea of a boy. Only one name came to mind the whole way through and it stuck. Then Danielle's pregnancy, I really wanted another boy since I thought they were just the coolest, even thought I was having a boy since the pregnancy was almost identical to my first (if you look at all the old wives tales), found out at 19wks he was a she and went through the shock and mourning again. :roll: :lol: Anyway, just loving having my two!
Think we'll start with the TT, must get the book out for a read on what's what. I was putting D over the potty when she was younger for entertainement purposes for Nathan and it helped him with his TT. :lol:
Post by: solnme on December 02, 2005, 18:49:17 pm
Hannah {{{{{HUGS}}}}}} Man these ladies give good advice! It takes so much strength to do what you're doing. And it really is a selfless act to make the needs of your students a priority. I wish I had had a teacher like you when I was in elementary. Sounds like you are ready to say no when it matters (so important) and know that your guideance for Sophie will not diminish.
Lisa - LOL at the poo story. I would be dry heaving like your DH. Leaks are a big fear for me but I know I'm going to have many opportunities to get over it. Eh, Judy :wink: Toooo funny!
Also what an inspiration to start early TT! I hear boys take a little longer to get it in general. Is that true?
Richelle - what a wicked surprise for your Mom's bday. I don't know what's wrong with me but I teared up reading your post.
Traci - totally hear you on the 'they're growing too fast' tip. Sol is using his sippy cup without assistance, crawling, slowly but making it from one end of the carpet to the other. :( Two days ago during dinner he did the 'all done' sign. I 'm asking him why he keeps throwing his arms up and not eating?! It took me a minute to realize what he was doing. And he did it AGAIN yesterday. 8)
2 weeks of night wakings and I'm starting to get worried. Last night @ 9, 3, 5 and 6. He was hungry @ 5 and 6 (no DF last night) but come on! I made DH get up both times not realizing till this morning that he came home at 2am after a night out with the boys. He didn't even complain about it.
We didn't find out what we were having because I love, love surprises. I 'knew' it was a boy and always wanted one. My brother has two girls and we needed some more rough and tumble in the family. All my 10 year old and 13 year old nieces do is talk about boys. I was so not into boys for a long time and would rather beat on them than kiss them. I would tell people that I thought it was a girl sometimes so I wouldn't be disappointed if it was a girl. Silly me, I know I would have been thrilled either way.
Lots of cooking today. I made Sol Jambalya, Green Paella, Mangos and Carrots. He's been bored with his food lately and I've been feeling bad about the lackluster way he eats his dinner and grabs at anything I put in my mouth.
Quiet day today so I'll probably be chatting again soon.
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 18:53:04 pm
Post by: Erin M on December 02, 2005, 18:54:49 pm
Traci - Anyone who worries about their child as much as you do is clearly cut out to be a parent. Cole is very lucky to have you. And no, I don't sit on the floor with Katie all day playing with her toys with her. She plays by herself quite often, or I let her crawl around in a safe spot while I do other things.
We have a humidifier for Katie's room - as long as the windows aren't getting condensation on them or as long as you're not seeing water on the walls, don't worry about it.
We found out Katie was a girl at 18 weeks as well - we were convinced (well I was actually) that she was going to be a boy. As a special ed teacher I've always had more boys and always had more of a rapport with boys, but I do adore my little princess now.
The sad news of the day - I put my watch, my wedding ring, and my engagement ring in my pants pocket during Katie's bath - got baby puke on it right before the bath and threw everything in the wash (forgetting about the watch and rings). This morning, I go to get a bib out of the dryer and my wedding ring fell out - found my watch, but my engagement ring is nowhere to be found. DH and I took the entire dryer apart, checked everywhere, and it's gone. I've been rather teary today. I know it's just a thing, and not a person, but it was a rather special thing. *sigh*
I'll try to catch up with everyone later at chat.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 02, 2005, 19:10:03 pm
Erin, what a bummer about your ring! Is it trapped in the S-trap pipe of the plumbing? You can often just screw them off and that's the place where things get collected. Hope you find it.
OK, better go have a shower and we're off for a family drive and go buy some xmas presents this morning, D's going to have her nap in the car I think.
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 02, 2005, 19:22:24 pm
:shock:
Ankie - what kind of cheese do you give Arwyn?? I had thought of giving Molly cheese but wasnt' sure where to start?? Does Arwyn have teeth yet?
Lisa - what kind of cup does James drink out of?? I really liked the Nuby to begin with but I agree with Traci, now Molly just seems to like to chew on it instead of suck. I would prefer her to transition straight to a regular cup anyways and just keep the sippy cup for when we are out.
BTW, I giggled at the thought of poo on the floor and your DH dry heaving!!
Traci - thanks for adding me to the christmas card list. I have watched this thread with interest and see that all you guys have such a great rapport going, I want to be part of it!!
Hannah - big hugs to you if you still need them. If not, save em for another day!
Erin - so sad about your engagement ring. :cry: Short story for you...DH and I got married on October 1st, 2005. About a month after we got married it had snowed here and he and a friend were tossing the football around outside being goofballs (as only men can do). Later on he headed out of town and called me on the cell phone to tell me he couldnt' find his ring. I was like "oh sure, you are off out of town with your buddies and you conveniently lost your wedding ring!!" :roll: LMAO
Long story short, my son found it outside on our front lawn under about an inch of snow!! He was so relieved! Hope you find yours too. :lol:
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 02, 2005, 19:34:41 pm
There is so muc going on ... where to start??!!
Erin: I am so sorry to hear about your rings. :( I hope it turns up somewhere and soon. You are understandably upset, engagement rings hold a lot of meaning. Keep us posted!
Judy: I did hear about the snowstorm but we haven't got anything here yet. Just really dark out and a few flakes flying around. It's quite pretty actually!
Richelle: We did find out that Carter was a boy at 20 weeks. Everyone gave me a hard time about it saying "It's your 1st one, it doesn't matter what sex it is" Which is exactly why I wanted to find out what it was. I wanted to make sure I had everything I needed!! I am not going to find out for the next one because frankly, either way the baby will be using all the stuff Carter used!!! I say that now but I will probably want to know when the time comes .. I am the worst when it comes to surprises. DH doesn't even hide xmas gifts in the house anymore cause I'll find them!
Nancy: We had girls names picked out but couldn't decide on a boy's name for a long time. If it was a girl it would have been Madelaine or Grace (I loved the name Hannah or Abigale but DH didn't). As for boys, it was going to be Jack (after my Grandpa) but my cousin had her baby first ( a month before me) and used that name. Then it was going to be Carter or Mason (mom's maiden name) but Carter won out because it had the word Car in it :roll: That's DH's reasoning anyway!!
Traci: We have a hunidifier here (Vick's I think) and we were wary about it using at first too. We ended up putting it in our room the first night and shutting our bedroom door so we could see what would happen. We did add salt to the water like it says because we weren't getting very much steam with just our regular tap water. It warmed the room up a little but comfortably so. Carter actually slept better with it in his room and it helped with his cold immensely. As for staying with him until he is asleep ...GUILTY! After I put him in his crib, I rub his belly for a few minutes until his eyes close and then I sneak out. I can't leave with him awake. It only ever worked once where I put him in completely awake and left the room. He gets too worked up. And, I totally agree with you on the growing up to fast thing!! DH and I were watching him yesterday drinking out of a cup on his own and eating one of those Farley biscuits and couldn't believe how "big boy" he seems! Time does fly ...
Hannah: Hugs to you!! I have to go back to work in Feb unfortunately and I am dreading it. I am also having a very hard time finding daycare for him. I would love to have someone come into my home or have a family member do it but everyone lives over 4 hours away. I just keep telling myself that it won't last forever (just until I have the next baby :wink: ) My work is not at all family friendly (my boss couldn't have kids and has no respect for people that do). One of my biggest fears is that Carter won't miss me as much as I miss him :cry: :oops:
We'll all get through it, we're tough!!!!
I nedd food ideas everyone!! I mostly make all of Carter's food (food cube method) and I am getting bored with his menu. I want to try something new to spice things up but I don't know what to introduce. I am doing a 4 day wait rule between new foods because of his allergies. FYI** My ped said that if you have a blue eyed blond baby they are at a much greater risk for developing allergies than other babies (I forget the %) even if parents have no allergies. Then if they have allergies they are very likely to have excema and if they have allergies and excema then 9 times out of 10 they will have asthma :shock: :shock: Uh oh, ppor Carter, he has 2 out of the 3!! Anyway, back to food ... so far he has had the following foods: Oatmeal, barley cereal, apples, plums, peaches, mango, pears, prunes, bananas, kiwi, grapes, peas, carrots, green beans, squash, sweet potatoes, white potatoes, chicken, arrowroot and Farley cookies and that's it. I was thinking of trying spinach ... has anyone done anything with spinach yet, or maybe brocolli? I need some ideas!!
TIA
See you all at chat!!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 20:10:06 pm
Roz--yeah for Sol and signing! We've been working on it with Liv for a couple of months now (probalby not as consistently as we should). I told DH today, I don't think she's EVER going to sign. But your story has inspired me to keep it up! Thanks!
Erin--so sorry about your ring...hope you find it. It sounds like you have a great attitude about it...just a thing, not a person. But I know how bummed I would be if I lost mine. Good luck!
Post by: solnme on December 02, 2005, 20:30:13 pm
Traci - you are a great Mom! Sometimes activity time consists of me lying on the floor reading the paper out loud (edited version of course) while Sol crawls over me.
Lots of different foods being eaten! Haven't tried any met yet but brocolli was a hit. For the jambalya and green paella, I pre-cook the rice until mushy, sautee the veggies and add a cup of low-sodium chicken stock. Then I add the pre-cooked rice and let the flavours simmer for 5-10 mins. Then put it all in the food processor and a blend till just a little chunky.
Before I was just mixing stuff like carrot & sweet potato or squash and pear.( he loves this one) DH bought this book called Blender Baby Food by Nicole Young a nutritional advisor. Some good ideas that I tweek.
okay, time to save a baby
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 02, 2005, 20:49:21 pm
Post by: Colesmom on December 02, 2005, 21:03:34 pm
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My ped said that if you have a blue eyed blond baby they are at a much greater risk for developing allergies than other babies (I forget the %) even if parents have no allergies. Then if they have allergies they are very likely to have excema and if they have allergies and excema then 9 times out of 10 they will have asthma
OMG Cathy-you have just described my nephew to a T! Cole is blonde and blue-eyed so thanks for the tip! I had been getting lazy with waiting after new foods. You've done a lot more than me though :oops: Cole has had: rice, oatmeal, barley, carrots,sweet and white potato, squash, broccoli (tops only), zucchini, banana, apple, pear, avocado, peas. gosh, not much eh? I really got to get this kid some more food. Lack of sleep doesn't help the creativity much though. You may want to try avocado...loves it mashed on it's own, with EBM, or with banana mixed in too.
Thanks for the support girls. I just spent the most wonderful 45 minutes with him. NOt sure if it's teeth or cold but he is so cuddly today (but also playing independently). He just had a great feed then hung out in my lap babbling to me and I copied his sounds and giggles. he loved it!
Erin-so sorry about your ring. I would be devastated if I lost mine. Just a thing...but I love my ring. good luck, i'm sure it will turn up. DH couldn't find his ring after a golf game last year. we went to the club house to put a notice up and DH went to the first tee. he had put it in his bag with his tees and balls. duh. he remembered opening that pocket at the first hole...went back to where he'd set his bag down and there it was. PHEW.
oops, i wrote this over an hour ago and didn't hit submit!
Judy-i just came back from walk. wind was wicked but sun was shining. now it's cloudy and the flakes are starting to fall.
girls-i might me in chat early. if anyone is interested let me know (8est)
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 02, 2005, 21:38:42 pm
I don't spend every minute with Arwyn either. Most of the time, she is quite independent. Heck, my DH lets Arwyn follow him around in her walker when he is getting ready for work so that I can have some extra sleep. Not exactly "playing" time, but Arwyn loves it.
Michelle... welcome! I didn't realize that Molly was in the same age range as our los! I give Arwyn mild marble cheese. It is just the kind we eat. I think it is a blend of mozzarella and cheddar. Anyhow, she loves it. She is refusing "her food" (unfortunately, I have a freezer full!) and prefers to eat whatever mommy is eating, :roll: which of course, she can't have. She has two bottom teeth and she seems to be able to "chew" things pretty well.
Erin... :cry: I hope your ring turns up. Yes, it is a thing but a very special thing.
Nancy... when Arwyn started eating finger foods, she didn't know how to let go either. DH sat in front of her, watching and telling her, "let go" and then using his finger to push it out of her tiny fingers. Within 2 days, she got it. Now, with every new food, she needs to learn how to "let go"... we just started cheese and she has difficulty because it breaks and stuff.
Roz... got try some new food too. I think I am going to bite the bullet and cook dinner for DH and adapt some stuff to Arwyn. I can't believe I haven't made a "proper" dinner in over 8 months! Bad wife! Poor DH is living off frozen food! Yeah for signing, Sol!! Arwyn just doesn't do it... she prefers to whine. :wink:
Post by: B&BMommy on December 02, 2005, 21:53:54 pm
Cathy - I didn't know that about blonde hair blue eyes....I just seen the quote....Brady is blonde haired blue eyed, so I'm now a bit concerned, given I have food allergies myself,,,,
Erin-so sorry about your ring, I hope it turns up for you.
Well, back from up north. Went to stay with my sister for a bit and now my parents are back from their trip, which is easier for my sister now too. Went up unexpectedly, so I didn't get to post what was happening. So once again, lots of catching up to do....you girls move fast. Missed all of you too, funny how you can not know someone personally, only by online, and yet they become a part of your every day life...thats how you girls are to me....My sister seems to be doing better, so I'm hoping all stays that way. Its been stressful :(
Brady tried cheerios and baby mum mums for the first time yesterday. Did well with the baby mum mums, not so much with the cheerios, hates them. As for food, Brady has so far had, squash, sweet potato, carrotts, green beans, wax beans, pears, blueberries, apples, bananas, chicken, rice cereal, oatmeal cereal, peaches, peas, brown rice, hmmm, I think thats' it so far.... I won't be offering green beans again for a bit now. Maybe when he's a year old, we've tried them twice, and both times he has had bad...gas pains and colicky like symptoms, don't think they agree with him, so giving them a rest for now.
Well off to get caught up, I haven't seen dh in a few days, so I may have to spend time with him tonite, and not make the chat, but I'll do my best to do both.
Have a good nite everyone.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: solnme on December 02, 2005, 22:36:49 pm
Post by: becca24 on December 02, 2005, 23:03:51 pm
Richelle - the gas is the same as the dentist gives you. It is supposed to help you relax. It works at the dentist but they are kidding if they think it helps with labour pains. Which is why hitting myself in the head with it seemed to help more :lol: I have a habit of making everything into a funny story. I hope everyone doesn't think I make light of two many things. It is just my way of coping really. I sometimes get upset because I lost control toward the end of Halle's birth.
Hannah - here is your hug from me ((((((H))))))) ! I was supposed to go back to work in September but extended it to January. Now they won't let me return part-time so I am resigning. I will probably look for a part-time job when we get back from our Western Australia trip in April. So much good advice from everyone. You should do what your heart tells you to do though.
We found out baby's sex too. I didn't care if we found out but DH wanted to know so I let him. I think I have posted this before but I wanted a boy because I LOVE the name Hamish. So we decided to call her Hannah but SIL boyfriend has a daughter named Hannah. Then we decided on Lydia but DH told a few people at a bbq and one of his mates said "What, clamidia??" :roll: (sp?) so that name was out. I also loved Mia but that is way to popular here at the moment. I saw Halle Berry on oprah on my due date and it got me thinking. DH loved it so he said 'That's it'. I am sure I will have Hamish next time !!! :shock: I can't believe I just said that.
Michelle - Halle eats cheese too, just plain old tasty cheese. I grate it up and just put it straight onto her tray. She loves feeding herself with it.
Traci - a hug for you too ((((H)))) you are a great Mum so you shouldn't doubt yourself.
Judy - your house sounds crazy but also a lot of fun your girls to grow up in. They are going to be such happy people !!
WELL HEELLLLOOOOO to everyone else (anyone love plunkett & maclean)
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 02, 2005, 23:14:22 pm
A friend came over for lunch which helped too.
Traci, no hijacking worries...btw, I think if I were not going back to work I would be feeling quite simialr to you. In fact there are still days that I kind of dread the time between her last nap and when dh gets home from work. Sometimes I get a little cabin feverish or something even if I've been out all day. I used to let Sophie watch baby einstein in the morning while I pumped...but now that I am no longer pumping in teh morning, I save it for the afternoon when I get a little coo coo and need a break.
I definately do not play with her all the time either. In fact, right now she is at my feet while I type.
Also, I am still obsessed with her sleeping. That will get better though. Once he starts sleeping better/more etc. you will have more time for you. You have almost no time just for you right now and you so need that.
I will try check in the chat early...depends what time dh gets home/what Sophie's doing at that time...5 hmmm it's kind of dinner time, but we'll see.
Hannah
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 02, 2005, 23:42:37 pm
Post by: FrasersMum on December 02, 2005, 23:56:32 pm
Cute pics Ankie! Aren't these kids just into everything!
Huge HUGS Hannah!! Going back to work is SO HARD. I went back when Fraser was 14 weeks because we didn't have any other option. Leaving him when he was so little was really hard, but so would be leaving him for the first time now with the separation anxiety happening. So would leaving him when he is 1 - or 2 - or 3 - or..... It's a brave new world for us as Mummy's that is a constant challenge on how to deal with the day to day. It's still hard for me every day that I leave him but we all get through. I would like to mirror everyone else's great advice - do what is right for you. It sounds like you've got the nuts and bolts sorted out. We will all be thinking of you on that hard first day.
We didn't find out that Fraser was a boy until he arrived. In fact, I was certain I was having a girl (Charlotte Rosie). I think I went into shock for about 3 days after he was born :D But SO THRILLED (really didn't care either way, just had this "feeling" that was obviously way off!)
Oh, the gas - yes, I had some while I was waiting, waiting for the epidural guy to come and deliver. I agree, it does stuff all! Although I did speak some dribble because of it :roll: and DH was there trying to reason with me :lol: Very funny in hindsight!
Erin, has your ring turned up? I second Nikki's suggestion, try the s-bend. Fingers crossed for you.
Hope to see you all at the chat - will have to see how my Saturday pans out :lol: 8)
Bye for now!
Post by: Colesmom on December 03, 2005, 00:00:51 am
How many of you have given your lo tylenol for teething without consulting your ped?
RANT: I called today because I wanted to be sure it was okay I continue giving it to Cole. It's been about 8 days and I give him 2-3 doses a day. Last week I was giving it during last feed to let it kick in for bed but I felt bad doing that in case he didn't need it. Anyway, I called them and they said I shouldn't be giving it without having him checked first. Can you imagine the doctors offices if everyone had their baby checked for teething? Okay, I realize they have to be thorough, but come on, I think it's ridiculous. Anyway, made an appt for monday. She made me feel so bad that I didn't give it to him for bed. We had a half hour battle and I even tried to hold him to sleep. It was now 4.5 hours A time. The only thing that worked was tylenol then holding him. It has to be teeth, or maybe ears. maybe ears but he has no fever. checked yesterday when his nose started running.
anyway, is it wrong that I give it without doctors consent? It's not around the clock or anything, just when he's not settling and I know I've done and covered all other bases.
Post by: james030405 on December 03, 2005, 00:23:14 am
Traci: I use a cup brand called Pigeon (they are the same brand as the bottles I was using). He can hold them himself. They have a valve and he has only recently been able to suck out of them as they are quite hard. It helps though if we are running late for lunchand I am out, I can give him the milk and he can drink it in the car. :D I also give it to him straight out of the fridge cold as it has been hot here. I think he is preferig this to being warmed up. I still give it warm at night though. If he is drinking water I try and give it to him out of a cup, but I also have another Pigeon brand for 8mth + which has a straw. He is doing well with this, but as it comes out faster than with a valve he coughs and splutters a little.
I know what you mean about "growing up too fast". I book a holiday at the beach before he was born and thought at 8mths he would be sitting and MAYBE crawling. So we have a balcony. Now he is cruising everywhere, pulling hinmself up on everything. I way over-estimated his abilities.
I found out James was a boy. I wanted to but also at his ultrasound picture, he wasn't hiding anything. Even to the untrained eye, you could tell. We both wanted a boy, I am too much of a tomboy myself to have a girl. IF we have another one, I would like another boy.
Food wise, I give James a lot of what we are eating. His favourite at the moment is pork mince, potato and spinach. I have the recipe if anyone wants it. The last 3 mornings he has woken up at 6:30, 6:00 and 6:30am which is about half to an hour later than usual. I think it is (or I am hoping it is) because I am giving him his dinner at 5:30pm instead of 5.00. I guess we will have to see how it goes.
Sorry for another long post ladies. :oops: I just get carried away here.
Chat soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala bear
Post by: Jayri on December 03, 2005, 01:51:42 am
Well my first week ended fine, I had a test today, basically putting it all together, and I checked my results online and for the week my grade was 81%, I am still a little shocked. They say the reason they have the grades is to see what you do and don't understand. For all you canadians, what i do is work for rbc, and take reservations in canada and the us when people call in to redeem their points using their avion cards or any other rbc reward credit card.
well girls, Iam off to make a cup of tea and I will see you in the chat in a few minutes....
Post by: Judy on December 03, 2005, 02:13:05 am
Quote from: solnme
Lisa - LOL at the poo story. I would be dry heaving like your DH. Leaks are a big fear for me but I know I'm going to have many opportunities to get over it. Eh, Judy :wink: Toooo funny!
YUP :) In fact we ate too many fruit cups and baby cereal yesterday and very little big person food - which equalled out to not being able to dash fast enough and a pair of panties that got tossed in the diaper pail. Sometimes it's just easier on all of us to throw them out!! ;)
Sex of the baby - we had a bunch of u/s with K&H so yes we found out. Tried to find out with Zoe but she wouldn't completely reveal - although dh felt he saw it in the u/s even though the tech wasn't sure. He figured being a guy he was better at knowing when he was seeing girl parts :oops:. Sarah I tried to find out (dh didn't come to the few u/s I had b/c of SARS here) but again they were never quite sure which was ok b/c dh didn't want to know.
Tylenol - don't use it unless my children have more than a low grade fever and I can't get it down with homeopathic remedies. But I also wouldn't feel the need to call my pedi to see if it was ok either.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 03, 2005, 04:37:27 am
I know, I know, I just can't let it go.
(Some people would call me anal :) )
Enough already!
Have great weekends ladies.
Hannah
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 03, 2005, 19:31:03 pm
Thanks for the short chat yesterday girls, unfortunately being a Saturday at 3pm we wait for D to wake, feed and then go out. But I will definitely try and check in every week anyhow. :)
Grrr, had the kids dressed up in nice clothes this morning to take a nice photo to send out to family and the battery went flat! I don't have a 2nd battery and it can't charge and be used at the same time. Grrr. I just had Nathan co-operating too by saying it was for Santa and for the first time in ages he was happy to sit and not be silly in front of the camera. :wink: :roll:
Right, off to put up the tree today.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 03, 2005, 21:20:02 pm
On the weekends, I ask DH to feed Arwyn lunch. She has been cooperating better lately if she has her toy. Check out the device DH invented... he managed to get almost 3.5 oz of prunes into her this way! :lol:
BTW, she better poo! Papaya and prunes for lunch!
Post by: kq on December 03, 2005, 21:41:00 pm
We are off to a Santa parade so will post later.
Karen
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 03, 2005, 22:10:39 pm
lots to cover! First the chat last night was fun...love the poo phobia talk to and the Judy's life as a credit card commercial! :lol:
Judy-I hope you don't mind but after reading your pee before 7 am story, I told the girls last night at chat that your life with teh girls would make a perfect "priceless" commercial. So goes something liek this: "ticket for granny to come visit 4 granddaughters, $500; rental car $200; seeing your granddaughter pee on the floor and dance around in it, all before 7 am, PRICELESS!" :lol: :lol: I LOVE to hera your stories and although I'm sure your house is crazy a lot of the time, it sounds liek it is filled with so much love! :wink:
Hannah-I know the topic has been covered alraedy, but HUGS to you. I think you do owe it to yourself to go back and give it a whirl. ANd if it ends up being too much and too hard, have faith that you and DH will find a way for it to work. I say all the time that if things go down hill in the $$$ department, I'm going to work part time as a Barrista at Starbucks! :lol:
Traci-We use a humidifier (warm air vaporizer to be exact) and it does help. Funny story actually, last night after our dr.'s visit and she told us to contine to use the humidifier at all times until the cold is over, we get it all ready. I told DH to put some salt in it to help with the steam so he does and comes back and plugs it in. After I got off teh chat I go into her room to check on her and the thing is going NUTS! there is so much friggin steam coming out of this thing you can't even see in her room! :shock: So I ask DH, how much salt did you put in there? He said about 2 tablespoons! I said I told you just a pinch!!! :lol: I thougth it was so funny I had to come back on and tell the girls in the chat room.
lots mor to cover still...but gotta go clean the house for our company tonight!
Post by: kate585 on December 03, 2005, 22:24:11 pm
We decided not to find out the sex of our baby...I was sure it was a boy for the first half or so. We couldn't decide on a girl's name and all the sudden I was sure it was a girl, so we picked a name (Caroline Lorra after my Granny Lorraine) and then I immediately said, "Well, that's good to have, but I'm sure it's a boy!" Dh and I were really excited to have a boy...carrying on the family name and all that! But, I am pining for a baby girl next time...although 2 brothers to entertain each other might be nice as they hit that 7-8 year old phase. Hmmmm.
WARNING: Pity Party Ahead!
I am totally out of steam over here, ladies. You know we've been having trouble and I had been nursing to calm and then off to sleep. Well, I decided last night that it was enough. I actually fed at 12:30 and when he woke at 1, I decided he couldn't be hungry. Did pu/pd for an HOUR. Ugggh. Dh was there to talk to him and I was the putter downer. Exhausing. Couldn't go back to sleep. Finally did and he woke back up at 3. Pu/pd for about 7 mins. Hooray! Couldn't fall back to sleep b/c my neighbor was blasting music and we could hear it. :evil: I finally went over there :shock: at 4:00. Had to ring the doorbell and knock a lot and some random guy answers the door with pants but not shirt. Guess I interupted her evening...not that I care. Finally, get back in bed and am trying to calm down and sleep when....you guessed it, Ryan is up at 4:10. Pu/Pd for another HOUR. Dh is really starting to question it at this point. Ryan then slept from 5:10 or so until 8:30. Yeah! What a night.
Then, today...first nap, great (90 min.) 2nd nap...another HOUR of pu/pd. :cry: (He is at 30 mins. now, which is all I go out of yesterday's nap # 2..keep your fingers crossed!) Dh has really lost interest in this method at this point..."It obviously doesn't work." I'm trying not to smack him in front of the baby and tell him thanks for helping, I'll finish on my own, which I do. It is so exhausing (especially on little to no quality sleep) but I know it will work and that it won't work in one or two nights. Any suggestions for how to get dh on board...he read the section of the book for 8-12 mo. olds for pu/pd, but I think he needs to read the whole chapter to get a better idea. *btw, there is a 9 mo. growth spurt, according to BWSAYP, so could that be it? And, if so, should I be feeding him? Ugggh!* He is sort of like, "If he's going to SCREAM (Traci, you were right about this! :cry: ) and cry, we might as well just leave him to it." But, aside from the fact that we don't do it like that, he can pull himself up now and it's hard to let him fuss it out at the beg. of nap while he is standing up...can't get down yet. :roll:
So, that's been my last few days...I'm trying to be strong, b/c I don't want to do this again anytime soon. I think I'll post on the sleep board (copy and paste from here, since I'm too tired to retype!) to see if there are suggestions from some moms of older kids. This stinks!
Post by: Erin M on December 04, 2005, 00:27:54 am
Ankie - love the new pictures! I do agree, all the babes are starting to look so much older. Hope Arwyn is continuing to do better.
Nikki - love the new Avatar - Nathan looks so much older!
Andrea - If you go work as a Barrista, you get benefits! It's true - Starbucks is supposedly a really good company to work for for that reason. (I've threatened in the past!)
Got some Christmas pics done today. Will post when I get them on the computer! Thanks all for the sympathies on the ring, but saldy it is nowhere to be found. We have looked high, low, here, there, and everywhere. DH says it's ok since he always meant to get me a nicer one anyway. He is wonderful, despite my occassional complaints.
Post by: B&BMommy on December 04, 2005, 01:32:34 am
LONG VENT:
Just need to vent about a few things though if its okay....don't know who else to tell....family wise/health wise things are a bit rough, and I'm totally stressed out. as you know my sister has not been well, she's having a huge problem with her kidneys, not doing well at all, and then to top it off, my dad is not well, sadly he won't share with us what it is totally, as he always thinks he needs to support everyone else, all we know is he's seeing doctors weekly, and that he is on heart medication.....and apparently I looked at the bottle and did some research, and they don't give you this med unless you've had a heart attack, is it possilbe this has happened, and we didn't know it????? My father is overweight, drinks a lot of beer, doesn't eat well, except junk food, and thinks he's invinceable....he can over come anything. I'm sooo worried about him right now too.....
Sorry for such a long post/vent, I just needed to get it all out there.....
bfn
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 04, 2005, 01:52:21 am
Kate--don't really know what to tell you except to hang in there and stick with it. As Tracy says, it takes at least 3 days to form a habit/change a pattern, and sometimes longer when they're older. I echo the advice to remain consistent with it. I know it's not easy, but it will be worth it in the end. Have you noted how long you do PU/PD each time to chart your progresss?
Holly--I'm so sorry to hear about your family's health issues. I will be praying for Brady and for your sis and dad. Please keep us posted and let us know how Brady's dr visit goes.
I love hearing all the fun things you're all doing with your LOs for the holidays: photo sessions, parades, tree trimming. Anyone else doing anything fun?
Post by: mickymuscles on December 04, 2005, 02:15:34 am
quick post...(((((hugs))))))) to holly, kate, traci, hannah, and erin.....actually ((((((((hugs))))))) to everyone!!! seems like we are needing one lately.
I had tons of fun on the chat last night.....thought i would post a pic of DH playing drums with Jack...
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0628.jpg)
Post by: Judy on December 04, 2005, 02:25:47 am
Ankie - your dh is a genius!! I love that!
The drummer - TOO COOL!!
We put our tree up this weekend - well I put it up and Zoe decorated it... so 95% of our decorations are all on the bottom 3ft at the front. It actually leans!! :) I love it. And she's SO THRILLED. She opened up all the ornaments and kept yelling "OOOOH I love it!!" :) Sarah, she loves to plug and unplug the lights (I know, not so safe :oops:) and pull off ornaments once in a while. It's an artificial tree so today she realized if she unplugged the lights then walked with them in hand around the tree it would spin. Ok so not such a good idea because all the ornaments are at the front only!! Not to mention if could topple! So I put the cord into the branches to hide it and said no more light till daddy comes home and figures out how to solve this issue :)
The girls are really starting to miss daddy. Zoe's doing pretty good - I mean she's missing him but not going on about it as she understands our countdown calendar and such but Sarah says now and again "want daddy NOW!" :(
Anyway I'm going to scoot out quickly and get to bed early tonight - K&H are just up TOO early and with Sarah feeling stressed she tends to have loud dreams which send me running to her only to find her asleep - about every hour all night long :(
Post by: B&BMommy on December 04, 2005, 03:31:36 am
As for Brady, he's fine, I know he is, it was just me worrying too much.
I have a very healthy boy here, nothing wrong with him at all...lol, keeping me on my toes, I was just scared and went off the wall too soon. After giving it more thought and feeling it, it seems fine....thanks for listening to my antics though.....now if I can just get my dad and sister feeling well, I'd be all set.
Nite All
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 04, 2005, 03:38:45 am
It is a vicious cycle, I know... you are determined to do pu/pd, get tired, start feeding again because it is faster, then get down about it, etc. I have been there, girlfriend, and like another mom said to me... am wearing the T-shirt! Keep your chin up and remember to take care of yourself too... do what you need to do to get through the really rough patches.
Judy... very cute about the Christmas tree. My DH saw your avatar today and commented about how very cute your girls are. :lol: He is peering over my shoulder to see who my virtual hot mama friends are!
Holly... {{{{HUGS}}}} to you too. I hope Brady checks out fine at the doctor's. I'm crossing my fingers for you. And, he will be just fine... not a wuss if his mommy loves him lots. Sorry to hear about your sister and father's health. I wish you a love-filled holiday season with them - remember to tell them at every opportunity how much they mean to you.
Erin... so sorry the ring has not turned up. Your DH is so sweet to offer to buy you a nicer one. Chrissy present??
Andrea... LOL on the advert of Judy's MIL and pee!
Micky... love the mini drummer boy!!
Nancy... we went to have pictures with Santa today. My friend organized it in her apartment complex. Arwyn was great. She didn't cry at all and I think DH got some good pictures. I will post them as soon as he gets them up on the web!
WE HAD A POO!!! Thank goodness... this mommy was getting seriously worried!!! (Funny the things I can get excited about these days :roll: )
Post by: B&BMommy on December 04, 2005, 03:56:36 am
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 04, 2005, 05:10:58 am
Judy, that's so funny about the Christmas tree, ours was decorated in a similar fashion LOL. Some of the little present decorations have already been unwrapped too.
Well done Arwyn for pooing! :wink:
Micky, cool pic of DH and Jack.
Here are a few pics from today. The family one is only the 2nd one we have with Danielle! :shock: :roll: We were over at my parents, so thought it was a good time to get a few casual snaps.
I'm having trouble attaching, so I'll see if they load up as a link to my photohost.
http://202.21.128.20/photoserver/72/15533072_full.jpg
http://202.21.128.20/photoserver/28/15533228_full.jpg
Oh, and we finally have some talking going on! Do do do do da da da, brub brub brub.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 04, 2005, 14:15:46 pm
On a better note, after a week of night wakings which really seemed to be due to hunger, Carter slept 11 hours last night!!!! We had a busy day (I cooked a big Turkey dinner and we had a mini Xmas party with friends and their 10 mos old DD) so he didn't nap really well in the afternoon but he went right to bed. We gave him cereal before bed for the first time because I hadn't pumped any extra milk in the a.m to give him at night. Maybe that is the trick??? Anyhow, I had a good nights sleep for once!! I hope these sleep habits continue as DH is going away on business to Georgia for the beginning of the week and with the headaches I will be going mental!!
Holly: I'm sorry to hear about your sister and your Dad. I hope they get better. Things usually have a way of working out! Try to stay positive!
Mickey: Love the pic of the Drumming Duo! Jack looks like such the little man!
Nikki: Your two are adorable!! They look so much alike!!! (That's coming from someone with blurred vision LOL)
It snowed like crazy here overnight and we are off to get our Christmas tree today! We go to this place where you can cut your own and I am sooo excited!
Have a great day everyone!!
Post by: Jayri on December 04, 2005, 14:40:50 pm
We are going to find someone else to look after Ri in the new year, Janean is good with the kids, but things have happened and i am wary of her doing it anymore. I have heard that she smoked around them at the park, she stod back to do it, but that means she left my kids to smoke. Also she went out to a club and then had the kids all day, I called at lunch and she could barley talk, what kind of attention are my kids getting if she is like that.
I took a quick picture of me, just me at home today, but I wanted to show you all my haircut, I will get pics of me going to work later.
Right here is the new cut girls....oh and thanks for the chat on friday, just wish I was more awake to stay longer....
Post by: kate585 on December 04, 2005, 16:39:02 pm
Big (((hugs))) to you, Holly! Aren't Dads nutty? It's still the protection mode, I guess. I'm sending good ~~~vibes~~~ for your Dad and Sissy!
Congrats to Cathy....about the sleeping through, not the eye issues. That stinks! I'm hoping you can still post, maybe just not read all 87 pages a day. 8) We won't mind at all, but we'd miss not hearing about you and CARter.
And on to us....RYAN SLEPT THROUGH THE NIGHT!!!! Hoooooray! It took me over an hour of pu/pd to get him down for the night...but, thank the Lord, he wasn't even crying! Just wants to stand up about 45 times before going to sleep. But, then he went from 9-7:30!!! Not as good as usual, but I'll take what I can get. (I know that bedtime seems late, but he was so exhausted from the previous night he slept until 8:30 yesterday am). Just went down for nap # 1 and it took about 15 mins. of pu/pd. Am starting a better nap wind-down, and I think this will help. I reread the pu/pd chapter in the newest book and that is helping. Dh was much more on board after seeing that it IS working...and having 8 hours of sleep helped the convincing, too.
Off to work on the tree while Ryan sleeps, but just couldn't wait to let you know of his progress and how much I appreciated those hugs and good wishes!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 04, 2005, 17:20:53 pm
Post by: Jayri on December 04, 2005, 17:41:11 pm
Post by: james030405 on December 04, 2005, 23:15:06 pm
Anyway, we are having a few night wakings again, but luckily they only take a few minutes of pat/sh to get him back to sleep.
We put the Christmas tree up the other day, I have some photos, so I will send soon. I am posting my Christmas cards today but there will be no photos sorry......... We tried to sit on santa's lap the other day but unfortunately, he was a little scary for James. Oh well, mummy certainly wasn't going to sit on santa's lap. Not in the shops anyway :lol: :lol: :wink: .
I was hoping to be in the chat the other night, but unfortunately, it is when James is awake. Will try next week and get DH to look after.
HOpe everyone has had a lovely weekend.
Chat soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: james030405 on December 04, 2005, 23:25:33 pm
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Judy on December 05, 2005, 00:02:39 am
Love all the pics!! Ankie- I'd never get any of my girls to sit with Santa. Everytime we've made it to the mall Zoe has asked for days why the kids get their picture taken with Santa and she doesn't want to get too close to the whole setup either (doesn't want Santa to see her :))
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 05, 2005, 00:06:51 am
Nikki - love the photos, what a beautiful family!!
Ankie - Arwyn is just too cute, climbing on everything!! Love the rig-up DH came up with to help with feeding her!! Smart guy.
Mickey - Jackson looks simply adorable behind the drums - I had seen that picture when I was hoping we were going to meet up at WEM - checked out your website to see what he (and you) looked like.
Naomi - I love your hair! Mine is similar when I let it grow out longer. Is your naturally wavy? Sorry to hear about Janean, it is so hard to find someone you trust with your LO's! Good luck in your search.
Here goes on our dreadful night...big sigh...
Our night last night was awful!! Molly was a bit fussy yesterday, but nothing too bad so didn't think much of it. Last night she woke just as we were getting into bed around 10 pm, she was screaming at the top of her lungs!! She screamed non-stop for 2 and a half hours!! I tried everything...Tylenol, ovol, gripe water, changed her diaper, teething tablets, fed her (even though she hasn't eaten in the middle of the night for about 2 months). Nothing worked. She cried so hard of course she threw up!!
Finally I think she gave way to exhaustion and fell asleep on DH. She woke an hour later, doing the same thing!! She had an ear infection just over a month ago and I thought it couldn't be one again!! But, up with her another hour, then she slept a couple of fitful hours and up for the day at 5:30 am. :shock:
Being Sunday here our pediatrician is of course not available and the clinic here where we live doesn't open until 1 pm and only takes walk-ins on Sundays. We were there at 1 pm and had to wait for 45 minutes to find out that yes, she does have another ear infection. :cry: Same ear. Poor little thing. We have antibiotics and will need to see her pediatrician sometime this week as we are planning to fly to Victoria on Thursday to see the in-laws and if the ear infection isn't clearing I am not too thrilled about travelling on the airplane by myself with a wee one!!
Anyways, just needed to get that out!! Congrats to all whose little ones have been sleeping well and {{{{{{{{ HUGS }}}}}}}} to those who are still struggling!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 05, 2005, 01:26:07 am
Kate-read about Friday yesterday but had no time to post. Big hugs for your trying night and congrats on last night! that is sooo great :D Did you at any point think Ryan was playing a game with you standing up so many times? I often will sit in the glider and let Cole play but I guess that's the wrong tactic...he then thinks it's play time.
Naomi-totally cute cut. I so wish I had wavy hair. Sorry it didn't work out with Janean, but at least you found out early. Good luck searching for a replacement.
Nikki-what wonderful pics. I can't believe how much they look alike!
Holly-did i miss something re: Brady on the chat? anyway, guess it's water under the bridge for now with your good night sleep. (oops-shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) As for your dad. I so hear you girl. My invincible father goes in for triple-bypass tomorrow and thinks he'll be home Wednesday. Last time he went in for surgery he came out 9 months later! Anyway, I know how you're feeling and I hope that you get to spend some quality time with dad and sis over the holidays.
Cathy-sorry about your eyes. what a drag! I didn't need glasses until I started working in front of a computer. Dreaded but blessed machines aren't they! YAY for your good sleep:)
Erin-have to say yippee for the new ring. but sorry the old one didn't turn up :cry:
Michelle-My gosh-poor Molly. I thought I had it bad last night but your night certainly takes the cake. Hope she feels better very soon.
Ankie-love the feeding gadget-very clever. and the pics are totally cute.
okay, now for us if I can remember our weekend. I'll start with dinner last night. Cole fed to sleep which seemed good as I was rushing to leave. As my hand hit the doorknob to leave he woke up. Oh well, I walked out the door :D DH had decided to stay home. Later I heard it took 30 min. to settle him-no tylenol, MIL didn't pass along word that he could give it if needed. Then FIL and DH were doing something in the basement and made a really loud noise and woke cole around 9:30. He settled pretty well apparently. I came home at 10:30. I was tired and went straight to bed. Was going to feed Cole but thought-what if this is the night he sleeps through?? Up at 1:15 am (7.5 hours exactly after last feed) so I fed him, then up every hour I think on the hour. Settled back fairly well each time except he was gruntly and pulling up legs. had to give Oval. Oh ya, he had hard rabbit poops yesterday. Had given jarred bananas. Not sure if it was that. He was really uncomfortable so I let him sleep in my arms to keep him upright until the Oval kicked in. Another hard poop in the am so it was carrots and prunes (just a bit-first time) for breakfast. An hour later relief for our little man. Dinner was really good. I had sea bass-whole fish. YUM. It was so great to get out.
Today we went for brunch and Cole was late home for nap 2 so he fed to sleep. No biggie. DH offered to do bedtime. After reading Kates inspiring story I told him no holding to sleep, that he had to do pupd. Goes up at 6:07. And comes down when, 6:11, after ONE pupd. sheesh, not fair :D :roll: :wink: :evil: Cole went right to sleep.
Okay-ENOUGH about sleep. TWO huge developments!
THE TEETH ARE HERE, THE TEETH ARE HERE. I can finally see them for real on the bottom. sooooo exciting. maybe this is why he went down okay. Not certain they are all the way through as he won't let me in his mouth.
COLE STOOD UP TWICE YESTERDAY. Isn't that crazy? I didn't see how he did it the first time but the second time I was sitting on the floor and he was squatting next to me with his hands on my legs. Next thing I knew he stood up and let go of me :wink: :roll: :D :shock: Soooo crazy! I think it was for around 3-4 seconds although it felt more like 10:)
okay, gotta get off the pc because DH has to install a light fixture and we're not sure which electrical switch he has to turn off. I am sick of cole chewing on the tortiere lamp cord in the DR so we're installing a cheapie light fixture until we find one we like.
as i mentioned above girls, dad is in for surgery tomorrow. positive vibes this way please.
ttfnmfl.
Post by: Erin M on December 05, 2005, 02:24:37 am
I FOUND MY RING!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it. I have never been more convinced of anything than when I told you it was gone. We did a load of laundry today, and I opened the dryer to take it out and my ring was just sitting there on the lint filter. I still can't figure out how it's possible that it was there the whole time - I mean, we literally took the dryer apart into a ton of pieces, looked EVERYWHERE...and it just appeared.
Traci - hooray for getting out! So nice to have grown up time every now and then. Positive vibes for your dad's surgery tomorrow. And holy cow :shock: for Cole's standing!
Michelle - Hope Molly feels better soon - Katie had her first ear infection last week, wow are they tough.
Micky - Love the pic of the drumming boys.
Nikki - Love your pictures - I wish it was getting warm where we live! I love summer - nice to see it's warm somewhere in the world.
Ankie - Love the Santa pic - I've been meaning to Katie's picture taken with Santa at the mall at some point. I think you've inspired me!
Kate - Hooray for Ryan's good sleep! Hope it continues.
Holly - sorry to hear about the family issues. Hope all works out well and that Brady checks out ok too.
Naomi - Lovely haircut! Sorry that things didn't work out with Janean.
Cathy - Sorry about the eyes, please let us how you are. Like the others have said, just post and let us know how you and Carter are - or join us for chat if you can!
Lisa - love all your pictures too. Looks like lots of fun.
Judy - How much longer until DH comes home? Must be rough on the girls and you too to have him gone for so long.
Sorry if I missed anyone - have a great day/night everyone.
Post by: Jayri on December 05, 2005, 02:52:24 am
Just wondering, Ri is now getting very hard to wind down, she is fine at first but then goes NUTS when she realises what is going on, there are a few things I can think of that it could be;
1- anxiety from me going to work
2- she could need a longer A time, she is now at 3hrs....or....
3- it could be her teeth that hurt her when she lays down.
It seems at times that it is only me that can comfort her, other times nothing works and the best I can do is to hold her and whisper in her ear that it is all okay.
I am just looking for suggestions so I can maybe pin point what is going on with her, I may have her at 3.5hrs for A time to see how she goes as she does not seem tired at the 3hr mark.
k....I am off to bed my fine hotties, I will "see" you all when I am home from work and the kids are tucked in bed.
Enjoy your day tomorrow....where ever you are....
Post by: kate585 on December 05, 2005, 03:40:46 am
Traci, I can't believe Cold has gotten TEETH (you can say that word now!) I'm hoping Ryan gets some before his first b-day. :roll: Scary about the standing, but so fun, too. ~~~Good vibes~~~ for your Dad!
Nikki, Micky, Lisa, Ankie---love the pics! (Hope that was everyone).
Michelle, hope Molly is feeling better. So smart to take her to the urgent care instead of just waiting until tomorrow to see if she felt better (that's what I might have done :oops: ).
Well, we'll see how tonight goes. I had to do pu/pd for both naps and bedtime tonight. It seemed MUCH less stressful though, as he isn't really crying too much just standing up a lot (but he cries if I leave...so confusing!) I'm hoping he'll repeat last night again. I feel SOOOO much better after a decent night of sleep after almost a week of crap sleep. Well, I should go, just in case it doesn't work out well.
Have a great Monday!!!!
Post by: hayes on December 05, 2005, 04:22:36 am
Traci-Thinking about you and saying lots of prayers for your dad. Time here is going way too fast. Everytime I say that to others they say, then just have another one!!
Erin-Yippee! I shouted out loud when you said that you found your ring. DH lost his in a school dumpster after loading bales of hay. We went through the entire thing tons of sour milk, half eaten hot dogs, rotten apples BARF. Never found it but the insurance paid for a new one.
Hannah-THinking about you as you go back to work.
Olivia-so glad that someone else has similiar probs at Church. Now they know that Ben will be a red eyed maniac by the time we pick him up.
Everyone who posted pictures-so adorable keep them coming.
Cathy-I pureed up some soup tonight and Ben loved it. He is into peas. Hates brocolli and green beans. I am thinking they may hurt his tummy or he just hates green vegetables.
Kate-Remind DH how well everything has been going up to now in regard to BW and remind him to be patient!
Naomi-Do you think that the activity time is too long. If I go 15 minutes past bed time here there is a lot of crying. Glad that you are looking for a new nannie. The right one will be placed in your path.
Holly-Prayers for your dad are being sent tonight.
Cathy-Hope your vision improves with rest and help from the doc.
Judy-You continue to amaze me and remind me that I do want lots of kids.
Love love love surprises here. CHristmas presents are hidden in the rafters so I can't peek. We didn't find out the sex. I was hoping for a boy but said I didn't care. Can't wait to have another baby and do it all again. Had 2 names for a boy and a girl. When the little bugger popped out we knew which boy name would work.
OFf to bed.
hugs to all of those who need it and a virtual coffee time with lots of chatting for those who need company.
This ended up being a bit longer than expected!
macaire
Post by: B&BMommy on December 05, 2005, 04:32:41 am
Naomi-love your new cut! Looks great! Sorry it didn't work out with Janean, but glad you found out now!
Nikki-great pics
Traci - as for Brady, I got all stressed out cause I found a lump just a small on the back of his neck, worried, but my mom and dh say its nothing...and I'm starting to think its nothing as well, just me being overly cautious. As I said on the phone to you earlier today....YAH for the teeth and the standing up...I'm so proud of Cole .....Positive vibes for your dad and his surgery tomorrow....
Micky - Love the pic
Erin - wow great that the ring showed up!!!!! I'm so happy for ay!
Cathy-I'm sorry about your eyes. Great though for the good sleep.
Michelle- Hope Molly feels better very soon.
Ankie-love the cute pics
As for us, I have to say I'm so happy, well rested...as Traci mentioned (shhh, don't want to jinx myself too much) but we had a great night of sleep last night. Better than ever! Finally 8.5 months later...lol...Brady went down at 8pm with no problems, settled within 10 minutes and slept till 1am, was up wanted to play until 2:30am, then back to sleep until 7 am .....Yah!!!!
Today two great naps again, both 2.0 hours long had to wake him both times...then bed at 8pm again, and only stirred twice and settled back...again don't want to jinx myself but here's hoping we have another good night...can you tell I'm excited...lol
Night All!
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: B&BMommy on December 05, 2005, 04:37:15 am
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: B&BMommy on December 05, 2005, 04:39:28 am
Post by: B&BMommy on December 05, 2005, 04:40:59 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 05, 2005, 04:57:48 am
Naomi, sorry your nanny didn't work out, but you sound positive about your new options. With Ri now fighting naps, just wondering if Janene stuck with the same routine for putting Ri down for naps and did she deal with any crying in the same way?
Erin, yay for finding your ring!
Kate and Holly, good luck with your pu/pd tonight.
Macaire, that's so funny that you need to hide the pressies in the rafters so you can't peek. :lol:
Kate, I'm wondering if D will pop teeth by her birthday as well.
Traci, your night out sounds really nice. Positive vibes for your dad's surgery.
Michelle, sorry to hear about Molly's ear infection. :(
Night all.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 05, 2005, 05:10:30 am
Ankie--YEAH Arwyn for the poo!! Isn't it funny the things we get excited over these days?
Nikki--beautiful family!
Kate--YEAH for sleep!
Erin--YEAH for finding your ring!
Michelle--so sorry to hear about Molly's ear infection. Liv had a bad cold that almost turned into infection a couple of weeks ago. It was the longest few days of my life!! (Didn't help that I was sick, too.)
Naomi--cute hair! Your problems at bedtime could be teeth. Liv fought sleep a few nights last week (she usually goes down no problem). It ended up she had another tooth coming through (her 3rd). I just tried to make her comfortable and give her extra cuddles during the bedtime routine.
We're now in the process of dropping the dreamfeed. It seems to be doing well so far. We've moved it from 11:00 to 10:00 and from 6 oz to 4 oz. So far, there doesn't seem to be any change in her sleep. She still sleeps the rest of the night. (I hope I don't jinx it now!)
I'm going to attempt Christmas pictures tomorrow on my own...just me, my camera, Liv and the Christmas tree. I hope it's not a colossal failure. We will also be going to DHs workplace for pictures with Santa sometime...he keeps forgetting to send me the info on it. Men! :)
Well, off to sleep. Wishing everyone a good night's sleep.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 05, 2005, 05:15:20 am
Erin: Yippy!!! I'm so glad you found your ring!! I would be a wreck if I lost mine!
Good Luck to Holly and Kate with PU/PD. I hope your nights start to smooth out. You too Ankie!!!
Michelle: I hope Molly is starting to feel better soon! That's gotta be hard on both of you! That was smart of you to check out our website before we were supposed to meet.....I would never have thought of that! A little slow sometimes!! :D Maybe next time we will actually get to meet! :wink:
Post by: kq on December 05, 2005, 07:57:03 am
NIKKI-great pic and I cannot believe how much Nathan has grown..the new diet must be working well.
ANKIE-Sam would have screamed the mall down if I had handed him over to Santa to get a pic...he is not so keen on strangers at the mo.
TRACI and HOLLY-hugs and prayers for your dads.
Sooo please to hear you found your ring, ERIN. I would have been a wreck if I had lost mine!
JUDY-your tree sounds hillarious! Your girls are such characters. I love reading about them.
KATE-glad to hear that your nights are getting better. Hang in there.
NAOMI-cute haircut. Hope the new childcare works out. Good that you found out when you did though!
MICKY-love your little drummer boy
Sam has taken to waking at 5 am. The last time he did this, he sprouted 2 teeth or toothy buds as we call them. Hoping that there is a 3rd on the way or I am stumped as to what is causing the wakings..maybe it is the darn birds chirping at 4.30 am!!!! :evil:
Date night was fun and we survived a night out without missing Sam too much! He did just great and did not even stir. Discovered that we are just as happy at home watching a movie and having takeaways so that was a revelation!
And the T in BRAT stands for toast!! Read somewhere that B.R.A.T represents bungy up foods...banana, rice, apple and TOAST!!! Loved all the other suggestions though.
Am off to bed as I am gearing myself up for another 5 am waking. Sorry this ended up being sooo long. :oops: :wink:
Post by: Judy on December 05, 2005, 11:12:30 am
DH comes home tonight :) YAY!!! In fact his flight should be taking off from Germany any moment now!! I hope he gets into Toronto and out of the airport on time and is home by supper. That's what I've told the girls and boy is it going to be bad around here if it doesn't happen.
We had a LONG night. Kaia was up at 10.30pm just unsettled and sad.:( Mayber her top tooth?? She was a bit warm but not a 'fever' per se. Ended up having to feed her/let her suckle so she'd go to sleep. Then Sarah woke having peed the bed :( Gosh she must be upset with Chris gone - it's been a rough pee week for her. She didn't want to get IN the bath then didn't want to get OUT of the bath. And I didn't want her waking up everyone else. It was a frustrating half hour of her crying that she wanted to get dressed MYSELF! yet wrapped around my leg crying "mommy mommy" and complaining she was cold. But if I dared to touch her underwear even just to help get the right leg in she'd take them off. I honestly was crouched down for a couple minutes with her screaming and putting a leg in, taking it out, other leg in, take it out, first leg in .... OMG!! It was 11.30pm and I still had to change the sheets and get the fire going for the night!! ACK!! I wasn't so happy. Her pillow had to go in the wash so I gave her one of Chris' pillows and she kept crying that it was "tight"??? What does that mean? Too fluffy? She woke me up at 4am to have that same arguement again. I finally had to give her my stern voice "Sarah, I do not want to talk about the pillow. I don't understand what is wrong with it. Use it, don't use it, come to my bed it doesn't matter but *I* am going back to sleep!" And Kaia was crying on and off for 15minutes at 3am. But at least they didn't wake at 4.45AM they waited till 5.45AM this time... funny how 5.45am seems good all of a sudden :roll:
Soooo my plan today? I'm thinking VIDEO!! Hope K&H will both sleep more than 30min (one or both have only been napping 30min MAX for the last half week) and Z&S can watch DORA and I can sleep. :) A girl can dream anyway can't she? :)
Sorry to hear about the ear infection :( Ick. And poor sleeps :( Thrilled to hear Brady had a good night!! And Cole is standing up? Wow!! K&H are just working at crawling and still trying to balance longer for sitting on their own. So different than Z&S were. (OUCH!!! Kaia just gave me the hardest bite ever and wouldn't let go!! Geeeeeez... Ankie, how's that on your end?) On that end I have to go - oh the throbbing nipple!! :oops: :oops:
Post by: Colesmom on December 05, 2005, 14:30:17 pm
Kate/Holly-hope the night turned out well again.
Erin-woohoo! so great you found your ring. hmmmm, maybe you can get a nice necklace instead of the replacement ring :wink:
Naomi-sorry about the difficult windown...not sure why. maybe Nikki's onto something if Janean hasn't been consistent?
okay, we had our WORST night ever. after such a fantastic bedtime I cannot believe what happened. Cole was up 3 times from 9-9:30. Would settle back but just kept waking. I thought maybe his 5:30 feed wasn't so great so I fed him. Then he was up every 20 minutes all night long. Would settle in his crib but then wake again. No screaming or crying just couldn't sleep. I did from 9:45 to about 2:00, then DH took him until 5:15. I tried Oval and I tried tylenol. He would even wake in my arms and with DH on the futon :?: :roll: :cry: :? He would grunt occasionally and pull up his legs. I thought of getting up and feeding prunes but just thought maybe it would get better-nope. Fed him at 5:15 thinking must be hungry, good feed, still didn't settle, fed more at 6:00, still didn't settle. got him up and fed prunes, carrots and oatmeal. 15 minutes later a poop. not huge but listen to this. I looked at it (as I always do, the curious mom I am) and there was something WHITE in it. And HARD. I looked closer. It was a WATERMELON seed. DH had let him suck on a piece of watermelon at lunch yesterday before I turned around and gave him WHAT FOR!! He's been down for 1:15 minutes now for first nap, totally unassisted so I'm thinking DH is to blame for our totally crappy night!! poor cole, his belly was probably aching all night long :oops:
I was rewriting my log last night and also noticed our sleep went downhill when we started zucchini. so, going to eliminate that and see how we go. I used to log every sleep, eat etc on a pad of paper, also jotted down milestones, then I rewrite main stuff in my good log. Anyway, stopped doing the notepad on the 25th so I am learning to relax a little bit anyway :D
i totally should have showered but thought cole would wake from his nap early. on a positive note i had a much needed 1 hour massage this morning. unfortunately the room was freezing so it wasn't as relaxing as i would have liked, but still needed it as my neck is still a mess.
have a good day ladies. Cole and I off to ped at noon. Figured couldn't hurt to get him checked.
Post by: Judy on December 05, 2005, 14:46:29 pm
Sorry about the cold massage - nothing worse than a cold room. Geez they should know better. I haven't had a massage in ages - mmm I should really book one soon - how nice would that be? Yup I think I'll do that this morning - book it I mean.
Keep us posted on your dad too ok?
Erin - yes how cool about the ring. Isn't that funny that you took the machine apart and couldn't find it then it shows up in the lint trap? Must have been stuck somewhere? In any event too cool that you've got it back now.
Well had 30min nap on the couch this am with the girls watching Dora. Would have like more but I'll take it :) Been checking dh's flight onling - so far it's ontime (anxious or what eh?) I hate it when people I know are flying... I like them on the ground!!
K&H are waking up, gotta feed them, gotta get myself dressed and gotta bring in some wood. Almost out and it's cold so I need to keep the house warm today.
Oh and Traci - good for you letting go of the journals a little bit. I think journals are great to keep but I found too that it became so consuming when I kept mine. Just take each day as it comes :)
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 05, 2005, 15:21:14 pm
Erin - how wonderful about your ring!! A new one would have been nice, but the old sentimental one is even better!!
Traci - "crappy" night. Poor little Cole and you too! I did laugh at your "crappy" night lingo after reading about the watermelon seed. You wouldn't think something so small would give such a problem but their insides are still so tiny!! Great on him having a long nap, must be so tired from last night! Keep us posted on your Dad, healthy vibes being sent his way!
Judy - truly, I do not know how you do it - two toddlers and twins, and DH away?? You are SUPERWOMAN!!
I guess we do what we gotta do though. You get a huge gold star, you sound like such an awesome Mommy too. I remember when Mason was little and our tree at Christmas was always only decorated at the bottom. Heeheehee.
Mickey - we are heading off to Victoria for a week on Thursday evening, but what does Jack's schedule look like cause I was thinking a coffee meet up perhaps at WEM if our schedules permit sometime this week?? We could see if Jody is available too?
Nancy, how did the weaning off the DF go?? We actually stopped Molly's cold turkey as she kept taking less and less herself. We did a DF last night though as she threw up just before bed. Poor thing, the meds must be hard on her tummy.
Also wanted some advice on PU/PD for nap extensions...currently she will only ever do 45 minutes in the a.m. which, when she gets up at 6 am, makes her schedule all wonky. I want to extend her a.m. nap with the eventual plan of dropping the evening catnap as we are starting daycare in the new year. They do 2 naps during the day at this age so I want to help her along to that schedule. Any advice?? Should I try the PU/PD for the a.m. nap extension? Any tips on making it work? Just be consistent? How long should I do it for? Until she goes back to sleep? Even if it takes up to next feed time? Should I give up at feeding time if she hasn't gone back to sleep?? :shock:
Thanks ladies in advance for any help you can offer.
:lol:
Post by: Colesmom on December 05, 2005, 15:43:49 pm
I'm also hoping that I haven't ruined his night sleep by going to him all the time...but he escalates so fast...it's never a mantra or quiet cry anymore.
Regarding pupd for naps, do you ever do it during night sleep? I couldn't extend Coles naps for the longest time but now that I have to do pupd for night sleep and have to stay and pat his bum and hold his hand I find this also works when I have to extend a nap. Maybe try going in around the 38 minutes mark and lightly pat her bum until she makes it through the 45 min. mark. Also, what is her A time before first nap? Maybe it's too long. I found that if I put Cole down earlier he makes it through the 45 min. mark as he's not too overtired KWIM? Just a thought. Coles first A time seems best around 2.5-2.75 hours.
Post by: Judy on December 05, 2005, 15:48:17 pm
once you get to daycare is it possible she'd catnap in the car on the way home if she was really tired? Is it a long enough but short enough drive to give her enough rest to get through supper but not so much that she won't go to bed at night?
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 05, 2005, 15:51:45 pm
I have no advice on PU/PD, sorry! I've never been brave enough to try it, and Liv hasn't really had sleep problems since she was really young (too young for PU/PD...we did Shhh/pat). Good luck! I hope someone else can be more helpful!
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 05, 2005, 15:58:37 pm
After posting about Molly NEVER taking more than 45 minute a.m. nap, it's now been just over and hour and she is still snoozing away. :roll: LMAO. Figures. I do find that I have to put her down earlier at the morning nap or she is harder to go down and doesn't settle as easily. During the day she can go 2.5 hours, longer if we are out and about then still go right to sleep for her nap. In the morning, I often put her down before the 2 hours (especially if she's had a bad night). Today I put her down at 2.25 hours and she went right to sleep. Yes, it is very hard finding that perfect time!!
As far as PU/PD I have tried it awhile back for naps but had no success and just gave in. Never tried it for night wakings, which have now seemed to stop, thank goodness!! I think I will try to keep the activity time less in the a.m. as suggested and just go with the flow, and keep hoping for longer a.m. naps!!
Judy, I was thinking the same thing about the catnap on the drive home as it is about 20 minutes. A perfect amount of time to get in a quick snooze, as you say, just enough to get through dinner and bath.
Thanks ladies!!
Post by: kate585 on December 05, 2005, 16:44:22 pm
MUST go do some cleaning/laundry. :( But, wanted to let you know we had another great night! Hooooray! Less than an hour of pu/pd to get to sleep and then he slept through the night. :D (Nancy, thanks for the reminder to chart..makes me feel like we're getting somewhere!) Got 11 hours this time, but he is still so sleepy looking. He's at 1 hour 10 for his first nap with NO pu/pd! We'll see how it goes. Traci, I'm SURE your night will be better. Ryan had watermelon yesterday, too. Did Cole like the taste (of course he didn't like the seed)? Ryan seems to like all fruit so far...well, all food, honestly, this kid is HUGE!
Michelle, I've never really had to extend naps too much. He's usually pretty good about napping. For pu/pd in general, I think consistency and no eye contact are the key (no claim here on being an expert, though!). I say, "It's nap/bed time, Ryan. Time to go to sleep" EVERY time I pick him up. It gets annoying to me the 30th or 40th time I've said it :roll: , but whatever works, right?
Really must clean as he'll be up any second!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 05, 2005, 17:21:05 pm
I feel like I am in the final countdown here which is a little silly because I am only going back for a week and a half then have break for two weeks....but alas.
Met with my replacement teacher Sat. It went well.
Sophie was totally out of sorts all day saturday nap #1 was on me nap #2 was on dh. I left to work in between which was a little hard. We were at MIL's since they live close to my school, we sort of camped out there all day.
When S was so upset MIL said "I think I might have some infant tylenol, do you want to try it? It's left over from brendan" Brendan, who is going to 7 years old on Thursday. :lol: :shock: So I say "Uh, Linda, would you mind checking the expiration date on that bottle?" She was really embarassed, it was Dec. 2002!!! Oh boy. I have to say that scared me a little. It's crazy how these so called "experienced moms" :) still have some pretttyyyy scary ideas. On the plus side, she is so sweet with Sophie, and was really able to help her calm down and play...even though she was in pain?Separation issues? Maybe, who knows....Night sleep was fine so ????
OK, thought this was going to be quick. I have to go shower etc so we can get out and about when she wakes.
Oh yeah...naomi---such cute hair!! You are my inspiration to keep growing mine :) Even though I wake up each morning looking like Don King :)
Hannah
Post by: Richelle on December 05, 2005, 17:45:25 pm
What a weekend I have had arrrghhhhhh.......more on that later...
Judy - You must be sooo excited for DH to be home and glad that you got to have a snoozeroo after your night :shock: !
Traci - :shock: about your night as well, I imagine it was that seed which may seem harmless and small to us but for a little guy...Good vibes for your dad's surgery!
Holly - YES on the sleep and hoping that your family get's sorted out!
Kate well done on the good night - I hope you had another one!
Michelle - I hope Molly is feeling better
Erin - that is sooo great that you found your ring!
Ankie, Micky, Holly, Lisa - What great pictures!! Such a good lookin' bunch!
So we went to the lake this weekend which of course means packing up Sophie and all her CRAP AGAIN and more traveling!! My dad invited 16 people + our family = 21 people and a baby to their cabin for my mom's birthday 'party'. Well, I ask him before we leave what he needs help with and he insists he is completly organized and that he didn;t have me travel all this way to work ect ect...he goes so far as to assure me that his assistant has helped him organize the food and shopping ect...so silly me I believe him.
We get there and of course he has forgotten all the stuff for appetizer's, her present, her card and half the ingredients to make supper :roll: . I get Sophie set up and unpacked (bed et al.) and start to cook, and get lists ready for some last minute shopping at the tiny lake store. I ended up doing ...drum roll please...everything for dinner for 21 people and 2 cakes (the first one fell because my dad checked it 1/2 way through and slammed the oven so it fell!) He peeled the potatoes and made some soup (the guests did the dishes even). Then once all is said and done we pack it all up again to get home and I have to deal with Sophie ect...and my mom ends up unpacking everything and cleaning everything from HER birthday party - my dad was having a nap :twisted: !
Sophie's 2 front teeth cut through yesterday as well (poor little lamb) so all I asked was for my dad to be ready to go by her nap time so she could sleep in the car - I mean really - if I can be ready ANYONE can be ready, you guessed it 15 minutes past her naptime and she is screaming bloody murder while my dad is putzing around. That is when I let rip, I told him we were leaving NOW - if he wanted to wrap up whatever he was doing he would have to drive back up to the lake and do it.
Oh such a long post and Sophie has just woken up for the 4th time from her nap *sigh*. Thanks for letting me vent if anyone even made it this far :wink: !!
Post by: Richelle on December 05, 2005, 17:51:59 pm
And great new do Naomi - HOTSTUFF! good luck with finding care for Riley.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 05, 2005, 18:57:08 pm
so much to catch up on I don't think I can do it all, but here goes:
Judy-hooray for DH coming home!!! so glad for you. also, on top of taking care of 4 kids, you also bring in the wood?!?!? way to go lady :D
Michelle-forgot to tell you WELCOME! been meaning to say that. we were on a lot of the same posts when our lo's were very little, remember?I always enjoyed chatting with you :) Sorry about Molly's ear infection
Erin-SOOOO happy you found your ring. that is great news and such a releif.
Ankie, Nikki, Holly, Micki and anyone else taht posted pics, sooo cute! Micky that woudl be a great christmas picture, a'la teh little drummer boy KWIM?
Hannah-wishing you good luck this week. stay strong-YOU CAN DO IT! we are all here for you
Richelle-what a wonderfully restful birthday party for you and your mom! Dads are men after all right? :lol:
nancy-glad to hear droppign the df is going well. Hannah, how is it going in your house?
Traci-sending good vibes your way for your dad's surgery. I know it has been a struggle for you and his health/drinking. Maybe this time it will be a wake up call?
So an update over here in our neck of the woods:
:arrow: Taylor can now join the club of HAVING TEETH! her first one has broken through on the bottom left-just a bit showing through but man is it sharp! can't wait to see what that is goign to feel like when she bites down on the nipple!
:arrow: Naps are positively frustrating over here! For the last 2 weeks (minus 2 days) she has taken a 30-45 minute am nap, but then at least a good second nap of at least 1.5-2 hours. :evil: I tried to extend with PU/PD but absolutely no go. I did it for 4 days straight and it just really upsets her sooo much. But funny it doesn't bother her at night and will settle very quickly with pu/pd at night.
So anyhow, yesterday seh finally had a 1.5 hour nap in the morning and slept till 11:20. Well then at 2 she was no where near tired enough to go down for nap #2. We tried for 1 hour with Pu/PD, holding, feedign to sleep, Nada. FInally she fell asleep on me for a whopping 20 minutes! then we had to go get her Christmas pics taken :x
My final thoughts: if she only takes a 45 minute am nap, just going to go with it since the afternoon nap is the more important one anyhow. If she does take a longer am nap not letting her nap later than 11 am. let's see if that works.
So her A times are now 2 hours 45 minutes for a.m. and 3+ hours for pm. Crazy girl! :roll:
ALso-she started commando crawling!!! so cute to see. She first started crawlign because she wanted the dog bones! gross.
Okay, gotta go and wake baby! good luck everyone today!
BTW-Cathy, sorry about teh eyes girl. That is too bad and we will miss seeing you as much hear, btu you still gotta pop on and say hi!
Post by: Colesmom on December 05, 2005, 19:22:41 pm
YIPPEE-while I was at the doc my brother called and dad's surgery was a success. As for the drinking Andrea, apparently my father said to my brother and his wife the other day "I only drink a little now, I was almostan alcoholic". Oh well. What to do :roll:
Got the flu shot at the peds. And sheesh, it was just the stupid secretary the other day being stupid. Dr. said it was fine I was giving tylenol. I think they just wanted me in for the flu shot...if they get paid for it...they must, right? she said it likely was the teeth last night even with tylenol. They are almost through so maybe another rough one tonight.
okay, gotta run, doctor kept us waiting 1:15 so Cole just went down for nap. I think I've got about 20 more min. and I'm just going to lie down and chill for a bit.
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 05, 2005, 19:45:11 pm
Molly and Taylor's schedule sounds exactly the same. The morning nap is always short (except for today, which was 2 hours :shock:) and the afternoon one is then 1.5 hours usually. If Molly wakes up early then we are usually "done" naps by 1 pm!! Grrrrrrrrr. Often I try to sneak in the catnap around 4 pm, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't!
Richelle - boy oh boy, they are all the same aren't they?? A nap after all his hard work. Imagine that!! :evil:
Traci - congrats on Dad's surgery. Hope recovery goes well too.
Post by: Richelle on December 05, 2005, 20:18:13 pm
OK, it is -25C here :shock: :twisted: what the f%&@??!!!!!! Sophie and I are trapped in the house, camped in front of the fireplace!! Vaseline has worked wonders on her instant chapped face, it was so bad yesterday that anything on her face (food ect.. stung and she would cry :cry: ) I started putting vaseline on it yesterday morning and it is almost back to normal :D !
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 05, 2005, 20:59:22 pm
We also always had a short am nap (45-1hr) and then a 1.5-2.5hr afternoon one. I actually wake her up if she looks like she's going to do a big one in the morning, because otherwise she ends up doing a short afternoon and that makes things a bit tricky. In fact it's now 9.55am and she's been in bed since 9am, so better go get her up shortly. She can often be awake from 2pm-7pm some days.
Judy, so pleased DH is coming home, hope the flight's on time! PS: I'm sure dh would look real cute in Diego pyjamas LOL. :lol:
Right better go and wake up my little missy.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 05, 2005, 22:00:38 pm
Today I woke her 1 hour into her am nap and am about to put her down for nap #2--wish us luck!
Richelle-stay warm. vaseline is amazing stuff huh? :)
Nikki-been meaning to tell you-wow do Nathan and Danielle look like twins! so cute
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 05, 2005, 22:01:36 pm
Also, when we went to the peds the other day to check on taylor's cold, we asked to get teh 2nd round of her flu shot but they said no since she wasn't 100%. anyone else lo's getting the kind of flu shots that is 2 rounds?
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 05, 2005, 22:07:08 pm
Molly's nap this morning was 2 hours, then this afternoon 45 minutes, so I know what you mean about leaving them to a long nap = short afternoon nap. Will keep that in mind. Does anyone's LO do the 2 hour a.m. nap and the 2 hour p.m. nap??
Richelle, where are you that it's -25?? Here is it about that with the wind chill. Very NOT lovely.
Post by: hayes on December 05, 2005, 22:21:59 pm
Judy-You deserve a massage and much much more. SO glad your DH is coming home.
Hannah-Hope the next week and 1/2 goes really fast. The kids will love hearing stories about your LO and it may help to boost your spirits. I used to miss my dog all the time when I was at work and I found if I put him and DH into journal stories I didn't miss the boys in my life so much.
Andrea-Got the second round of flu shots here and everything went smoothly.
Got the first real nipple bite here today. I was so surprised I squeezed his little cheeks super hard. He did it again 5 minutes later. I thought my nipple was going to fall off...
Rough night last night for us. Lots of screaming at 12, then up at 4:45 back to bed at 6:45 until 8. SO far the rest of the day is normal amazingly. Took Ben to the doc to see if an ear infection started but all he has is a cold.
OFf to do some laundry. Hope everyone is doing well.
macaire
Post by: hayes on December 05, 2005, 22:24:48 pm
macaire
Post by: Jayri on December 05, 2005, 23:29:01 pm
Right, bit of a background...janean has been staying with us since the end of september, the agreement was that we would help her out with living accomodations until I got to start work, and then we would pay her to have the kids, she would still live with us, but at the time she wanted to go out west at the time (to BC), so we thought we would be the perfect opportunity for her and us.
Well....I have hit my limit, after her living here "scott free", with full internet, over 200 channels on cable, food supplied and laundry done with ours....she met a guy...maybe even "the guy" ifkwim.
Anyhew, he needed a plce, so we let him stay here, I am a pity case, and couldn't handle the guilt of not helping them out to get on their feet like we had been given.
So, after having her man here, feeding him too. All this as we were trying to pay rent, our bills, plus feed four adults and two children.
So, not a thankyou of anysort out of wither of them, not even when I paid her, she swears she did, but my dh does not lie to me, as he was the one who noticed.
So my dh is a randy thing, bugs everyone, he is very sexually minded, that is the best way I can put it. Well how about a randy teenager, you know how guys carry on with their buddies.
So Janean's man gets in a huff, says it is very disrespectful, and he is leaving, after Janean goes after him, I tell her he is no longer allowed in our home or anywhere near the premises....This is our home, we have fed him and provided a roof above his head, no questions asked, so in my mind he really doesn't have a say in our home as he doesn't contribute.....
So.....all that has happened and she leaves and back chats in the hallway on her way out.
That is my final straw, dh is out looking a a sitter I found yesterday, she sounds wonderful, so hopefully Ri wil be there tomorrow.
BUT, THERE IS GOOD NEWS....it was Jay's first day of school/daycare today, so he neer noticed we left, he went right off to the toys, and he screamed when we said we had to go home to Riley.
I applaud you for reading this and getting this far, I just needed to let it out. Thanks for the shoulder girls.....I miss you all and I will check back in the morning before I go to work.
Now you see what I mean when I say that you girls have been better friends to me than the ones I have around here.
Right, I am off to control the screaming monster that is my son...haha
Post by: Colesmom on December 06, 2005, 00:32:12 am
Andrea-we're doing 2 rounds of flu shots. She knew Cole had a touch of a cold but she said as long as he is in good spirits it's okay.
I am so lucky girls, even with teething, a cold and poor sleep my little guy was still a charmer at the doctors office.
I learned first hand the error of letting him sleep too long. Darn doctor keeping me there so late. Cole fell asleep at 1:55...when he's normally waking. He slept until 3:00 so I just had one heck of a battle to get him down for bed. Started at 6:10 and he gave up at 7:10. Did PD for 30 minutes (as per kate!) and I must have put him down 150 times. I kid you not. Then he was going to settle but wanted to hold my hand so I gave in, then he sounded like he was choking on his snot so i got him up to wipe his nose and he started again! 10 more min of PD, 10 more min of handholding/patting and he's finally asleep. *sigh*. I wonder if I shouldn't have caved and made him settle without the patting. Kate-is that what you do or do you pat him towards the end? My back is really getting sore with all this patting to settle and I want him to sleep independantly. Anyway, gotta run, DH home and he made dinner as I was up with Cole. He's not feeling so great after having crummy sleep...welcome to my world!
Post by: Richelle on December 06, 2005, 02:16:53 am
Judy - I hope DH made it home OK and that once the girls get their cuddles that you can get a few in. :wink:
Naomi - OMG, It is horrid how some people find it so easy to take advantage of kindness, you deserve better and so does Riley. It is so great to hear that Jayson loves daycare.
Kate - Fab news that Ryan is sleeping again!!
Traci - I really hope it gets easier to get Cole down. Sophie had a 45 miute nap this AM and usually she has a really good afternoon nap but only slept for an hour :? but since we have dropped the catnap she is sooo sleepy by bedtime she hardly even talks to herself so I may be paying for it down the road.
Macaire-I can't imagine how that feels, Sophie has 8 teeth now and when she gets a hold of my finger it is torture, i can't imagine a nip on the boobie!
Big news here is Sophie says MAMA and HI back to me when I say it to her :lol: I hope it continues, it was very exciting as she was doing it all day!! She of course has her standard babababab and adadadadada but these are new and very distinct!
Post by: Jayri on December 06, 2005, 02:22:01 am
We laid the law down with Janean, she was shocked that we found alternative arrangements so fast....haha, I told her I am not as stupid as she seems to think I am!!!!!
I am glad you all liked the new do!!! Thanks for the hottie comment richelle, really made my day after the evening I have had.
Work is going well, I am actually starting to piece it all together. So if you canadian mum's call up to redeem you rbc reward points for travel...you never know it could be me on the other end of the line...hahaha
You girls are fantastic, I am so glad that we all know each other and that we are here to be there for one another, despite the miles between us.
Oh! Andrea how is everything coming for your company......I have a cute princess and a cool dude to spoil here!!!!!
See you tomorrow ladies.
Post by: becca24 on December 06, 2005, 02:46:01 am
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You girls are fantastic, I am so glad that we all know each other and that we are here to be there for one another, despite the miles between us.
Naomi - you said it chick !!!
Hi everyone,
I have been away camping for a few days. Sorry I haven't caught up on all the posts. Hope everyone is doing OK. Big cuddles if you need one or big high fiver if you need that too.
Camping went ok this time. Not as good as last time so I am a bit discouraged. She screamed the tent down yesterday. This morning she was much the same. I ended up going up to the chemist and buying some suppositories for her constipation. Not long after I used it she pooed, it wasn't much but she seemed to be in better mood afterwards. Also, it was very hot yesterday and today is hotter so I turned on the air con. So now I can't work out whether it was because she pooed or because she was too hot before?
The camping was also funny this time because of all the animals. We were sitting down eating our tea when a kookaburra landed on my friends plate and started eating his steak!!! It was soooo funny, he actually had the plate resting on his lap at the time. Needless to say the kookaburra had a nice meal while our friend had to eat a bread roll!! Also, I was being stalked by a huge goanna (lizard) it kept coming over looking for food and I kept having to chase it away with a broom!!!. There were a couple of American guys camping there as well and one of them slept on top of his car !!! DH asked him what he was doing up there and he said he was sleeping on the ground but then got paranoid about all the critters :lol: :lol:
This is what I got Halle for chrissy:
Peek-a-blocks train plus extra blocks
Baby Einstein DVD (something about water)
Musical Giraffe thingy
Push Car thing that she can walk behind then turns into a car that she can ride on :?
More blocks ?
Floatie for the pool
Beach Shelter
I think that is enough - what do you think??? I think I should get her some books but the ones she already has she just wants to eat them. What have you all got your lo's? Disregard if you have already been through this :oops:
Post by: mickymuscles on December 06, 2005, 04:32:31 am
i've been trying to get caught up all day....every time I read one post there seems to be a whole page more to read!! :shock: :)
Bec...when you said camping was fun because of all the animals....I was thinking squirrel, racoon, deer, or something along those lines...not a kookaburra (i think a bird??) or a guanna???? crazy talk!!! :D What a different world we live in!! I got Jackson a set of puppets for x-mas. That's it. DH got him something too. I didn't get him very much since I know MIL and my mom got him tons for x-mas and also with us going to California I'm sure my sisters have got him a ton of stuff too.
Naomi!!!!!! :shock: You have way too much patience!! I would have kicked those freeloaders out and changed the locks a long time ago!!! :shock: I'm glad to hear you've found someone new to take care of Riley and that Jayson likes daycare, what a relief!! :D
Traci: Glad to hear your dad did well!!! What a big sigh of relief! Does he know how long he will have to stay in hospital?
Michelle: When are you getting back from Victoria? I'm super busy this week with appts. since we are trying to fix this house and also build a new one....I'll have more time next week...Otherwise we'll have to meet up after the holidays. :D
Jackson has been having quite a few nighttime wakings lately (about 3-4 times over night) I usually have to go in at least 2-3 times to settle him. This is very unusual for him he was sleeping thru before....I think it must be seperation anxiety, or something....I don't know anymore!! :roll: It's so much harder to get up now!!! I can't imagine having to feed him every two hours like when he was a newborn!! I think I must have been a zombie those first few months because I feel like one now!! :shock: :? :D
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 05:26:32 am
Richelle--Poor Sophie's chapped face! Liv's face gets so chapped, too. Do you just put regular Vaseline on it? Yeah! for her saying "mama" and "hi!"
Traci--glad to hear things went well with your Dad.
Kate--how big is Ryan? Liv is already 24 lb!! She's my little chunk!
Michelle--Liv usually takes a 1.5-2 hr nap in the morning, but her afternoon naps are usually pretty short.
OK, now on to our day...Christmas photos went pretty well...I've updated the avatar with one of the pics. Then we spent the afternoon running around town b/c I had to do an errand for my sister. The things we do for family, huh! So Liv didn't get a good nap this afternoon, but luckily she went down well tonight. Oh! And I think she did the sign for "drink" tonight at dinner. It was pretty quick, and she only did it once, but I'm believing that's what it was. It made my night!!! (Oh the things that excite us now.)
Well, I'm off to bed...wishing everyone and their LOs good sleep tonight (or today for those of you on the other side of the world).
Post by: FrasersMum on December 06, 2005, 08:13:35 am
How are you all?? As usual lots going on on the thread
Love the pics everyone - you have inspired me to take more and post more!! Will have to get onto that :lol:
Naomi - what a childcare debacle! Glad that you got it sorted out so quickly. I guess there's a lesson there for all of us seeking care arrangements for our LO's.
Michelle - hope Molly is on the mend
Kate - yay for sleep! Send some my way!
Bec - sorry the camping experience wasn't so great this time. I guess you can't have it all, all of the time :lol:
LOL Micky - yes, a kookaburra is a bird! Love the cultural differences, don't you!
Richelle - how clever is Sophie! Lucky you were there to save the day for your mum!
Nancy - am loving the new avatar - I love chubby babies!
Traci - sleep vibes to ya!
Judy - am loving the stories as always. Bet you are glad DH is home!
Cathy - cringe on the eyes. Hope that a bit of rest helps.
Macaire - ouch on the biting - not looking forward to that!
And on the topic - the teeth have arrived here too! Or should I say, tooth in the singular. A little grumpy with it, but hey, what's new :lol:
No developments on the sleep front - still up a couple of times a night. I'm riding it out for the moment.
A question - is anyone else's LO very vocally expressing their likes and dislikes re food? Fraser seems to have decided he doesn't like meat and vege's, only fruit. He very vocally tells us throughout his meals that he is not keen - until we bring out the "desert" (fruit) - when he opens his mouth like a cherub and silently scoffs his food. He is also starting to clamp his mouth shut during his feeds. Anyone else experiencing this? Are you just going with what they like or are you continuing to offer the "offending" item/s as well? And Bec, I read your recipe for DIY fruit gels - have you made any yet? Do you use junior juice or regular juice?
Everyone - love you all lots. Hope you are all doing well and your LO's are being perfect for their mummy!! (I'm sure they are!) So glad I found this place, can't imagine where I'd be without the support and friendship I get around here. So thanks and big HUGS to you all.
Take care
Jo
Post by: BiancaB on December 06, 2005, 09:41:24 am
Post by: Jayri on December 06, 2005, 10:49:23 am
Thanks for the support girls.
Well I am off to get the kids ready and then off to work, I will see you all tonite.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 06, 2005, 13:50:24 pm
We had a rough night last night (naturally of course ... DH is in Georgia for business so why not test mommy's patience :roll: ) I'm hoping tonight is better.
On another note, I've been working on all those Christmas cards and am almost ready to send them out!!!! I will have to figure out postage for all these other countries!
Have a good day everyone!
Post by: Judy on December 06, 2005, 14:05:41 pm
Naomi - my goodness what a week you've had. I hope today works out just great for everyone. So am I correct here? You fed these two for free, didn't charge them to stay in your house, did their laundry AND paid Janean to look after your children? You are too generous!! :)
Yes dh got home safe and sound and on time!! :) The girls were so thrilled. I believe almost an hour had passed before *I* got a hug - Z&S wouldn't let me near him and when he walked in I was holding K&H. He was so tired as he'd basically been up since 2am our time and so by 8pm he was ready for bed as was I because I'd had a rotten night with Sarah and Kaia. Unfortunately I'd let Zoe and Sarah have aft. naps. They were so tired and so crabby and I didn't want them to be unhappy for dh's homecoming... well anyway dh tried to lie down with Sarah in her bed and Zoe wanted to join them so no sleeping there!! At 10pm I woke up (drifting in and out of sleep) to hear Sarah yelling about something and dh was in our bed asleep. I was not impressed..."enough already!" so dh brought her to our bed where she did quiet and go to sleep. Just too excited and not tired. Kaia woke at 4.30AM!!! :( chatting away happily. I left her (this was after I attempted W2S at 3.50am) and she drifted back to sleep but not before waking up Hannah who wasn't as happy. I fed Hannah at 5.15am and put her back to bed successfully then Kaia was up at 6.30am. It was nice b/c dh's body clock is 6hrs ahead so he got up and changed diapers and brought me babies and I didn't get up till he left for work at 8am (late).
I tell ya - at 4.30am I was so tired and so annoyed that AGAIN they were awake so freakin' early I said to him "if you EVER want sex again you had better get a vasectomy" he generally says he's not talking about it... but even after I got up at 8am I seriously said to him "I am NOT going through this again! I don't want MORE children!" He agreed that we had enough (still hasn't agreed to the vasectomy but surely he'll come around in the next year right???) Don't get me wrong - I'm not resentful of the girls I have but I am looking forward to being done with infant sleep issues and moving forward with life with 4 girls.
Post by: Colesmom on December 06, 2005, 14:27:04 pm
Finally got some time to catch up. Hopefully Cole will sleep a bit longer and let me post :wink:
Nancy-totally cute avatar. So glad the piccies turned out for you
Hannah-yikes on the expired tylenol :oops: thank goodness you were there! are you back at work this week? wow, why did i think it was next week?
Richelle-poor chapped Sophie...but doesn't seem to affect her disposition if she's chatting away like she is. Mama...ahhh, isn't it a wonderful sound? At least until it becomes demanding eh? MAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! Kudos to you on the birthday rescue. And you're right about -25 :shock: :shock: :shock: . I'm finding zero degrees chilly right now!
Macaire-ouch on the nipple :oops: I'm am so nervous about Cole's two teeth that are about to pop through.
Bec-OMG, there is a song on my children's CD that has a song about Kookaburras and I just sing along but never knew what the heck it was until now. LOL :D
Micky-any new foods for jackson, or for you? I'll explain below, but that seems to be the cause for our TWO weeks of night wakings.
Jo-Cole eats everything in sight. If he grizzles I think it's because he's full but he still opens his mouth :? . I would continue to offer the offending food every couple of days. Apparently they can go on and off it again. Tracy (and other authors) say not to force anything as you want mealtime to be pleasant. Good luck.
Bianca-your Sienna has beautiful eyes. And I love how Ky is mimicking her :P totally cute.
Judy-Here is a GREAT big hug to you. It must be so hard going back to crummy sleep after a brief period of success. I hope you can solve it soon. In a couple of years I'm sure you won't even remember. LOL!!
Alright-our night was WAY WAY better. Woke at 10 and fed. Woke at 3:30 and I just didn't have the fortitude for pupd and DH is really quite sick so he couldn't get up, fed. Up for day at 5:40 (not bad). I think he might have woken one other time but I don't remember :?
SO-No zucchini yesterday. Not sure if it's the first time since sleep issues started...but I really think this was the offender! No grunting or pulling up of legs last night. And no tylenol...so I hope I haven't been drugging my poor boy when all he needed was gas relief :oops: :cry: :oops:
Holly pointed me to a menu planner for stage 2 infants yesterday. Gosh-no wonder Cole isn't sleeping through. I guess I've had an idea of how much he should eat, but I am not giving him nearly enough, especially since he's so mobile. And I know that I shouldn't go by guidelines...but I won't necessarily give him more even if he's not refusing (full). So starting today I'm giving him much more for lunch, dinner and starting a snack. Maybe I'll have a breakthrough with sleep once he's got enough calories. Here is the link for those that may be interested.
http://www.heinzbaby.com/english/mix/menu_planner.html
Seems to me I am about 5 tbsp short for lunch and dinner and I just started giving mum mums as a snack near 2pm feed. Do you guys give snacks, and if so, when?
lastly-what would you guys have done yesterday re: afternoon nap. Clearly I had to let Cole sleep, should I have woken him after 30 minutes to maintain his bedtime schedule, or just put him down later??? just curious what you ladies would have done.
PHEW-all done for now. I gotta write some cards!! BWers are getting done first since they are global. I printed his pics off on the pc last night and they turned out well. yay!
Holly-you'd better post soon as I am bursting for you to tell your good news :wink:
Post by: Richelle on December 06, 2005, 14:28:54 pm
HOw is everyone and their 'cherubs' this morning! Jjo and Bianca I love that phrase for oue little angels!
Cathy - I can;t believe that I forgot to post earlier about your eyes - that` is horrible and I hope you get some relief soon! Either way keep us posted as much as you can!
Jo - Sophie is vocal and physical about what she likes and dislikes. She blows raspberries WITH a mouthful of the offendind food, smacks the spoon away while clamping her mouth shut and sometimes for good measure she will throw in a little scream. :shock: :x I keep offering the offending items as she seems to change her mind all the time. HATED yogurt at first, loves it now - same with watrmelon.
Michelle - i am in Saskatoon. I keep hoping it will warm up a little, I may be in luck it was only -22 this morning :P !
Nancy - Sophie is a chunk too, I love that she is so fat she has little bubbies!! The new Avatar is sooooo cute!
Sophie is still saying HI this AM but has reverted to MABABA instead of MAMA. I think it is mostly wishful thinking on my part!
Post by: Richelle on December 06, 2005, 15:02:13 pm
Judy - What a night, hopefully once all is settled and everyone is back on track including a house with DH everyone will get back to normal - well whatever normal is in your house :wink: (priceless)
Traci - I am so glad you figured out the Zucchini thing - yah for you and Cole! Sophie has been eating the same food amounts for the last month I am going to go check out the website. I am totally excited to hear Holly's news!!!!! Come on Holly - we are waiting......
Post by: Erin M on December 06, 2005, 16:18:55 pm
Traci - good to hear your dad's surgery went well - and that you figured out the zucchini
Hannah - back to work (((((hugs)))))
Naomi - ((((hugs)))) to you too - you're a saint BTW to have put up with them as long as you did - hope your new childcare situations works out well
Richelle - I HATE the cold - and what a party you had! Sounds like what would have happened if my dad tried to do a party like that!
Judy - Hooray for DH being home! Speaking of DHs being home, anyone notice the last post from Hayley was when her DH came home? Hope they're having a nice time!
Micky - hope your sleep issues get sorted out - we had some horrid nights when Katie was sick and teething a few weeks back
Bianca - nice to "see" you - your kids are gorgeous
Bec - LOL, I was with Micky in thinking about chipmunks, deer, etc and you come out with lizards and birds I've only read about
Jo - Katie pushes the spoon away when I'm trying to give her something she doesn't want. Not so vocal about it though.
Nancy - love the Avatar, one day I'll update mine! Liv is such a chunk, I love it!
Macaire - ouch on the tooth, I've been bitten a few times here too - hurts!
Michelle - Katie has never slept that long in the daytime, so I can't say much to your question about naps.
Andrea - Katie has been doing shorter naps in the AM lately too -- wonder what's up with that. We've had lots of stuff going on here though - teeth, ear infection, cold, cough....so I've just been going with things the best I can.
We went to the ped this morning - Katie is 28 and a quarter inches long and 18 pounds, 3 ounces - she weighed more in the hospital two weeks ago, but her appetite has really only come back the last few days. I love my ped - he thanked me for calling him on Thanksgiving when I was worried about Katie. It was a slow morning there, so we got to chat for quite awhile. We haven't done much in the way of Christmas presents here, because I know the family has overbought already. I'm going to pick up a few things for her sometime soon, but nothing big.
OK, I really have to run - talk to you all later!
Post by: Erin M on December 06, 2005, 16:20:29 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 06, 2005, 17:08:28 pm
More later.
Hannah
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 18:03:06 pm
RICHELLE--I love chubby babies, too! But I don't appreciate some of the comments I get. Some people are so sweet and say things like, "What a cute little chubby baby!" I don't mind that, but I don't like the comments like, "Oh, my word! What are you feeding that kid?!" "You might be overdoing it a bit!" and the such. Maybe I'm just paranoid b/c I was a chubby kid (pretty much through college), and so I might be a little sensitive about it. Do you get comments like that (or anyone else for that matter)? Does it bother you? I also have problems finding clothes to fit her. She's in 12 mo now!!!!
We had a weird night last night. I woke up at 4:00...not sure why...and couldn't go back to sleep. Liv started stirring (talking and rolling around in her sleep) about 4:45. She finally woke up about 5:15 and tried to settle back down, but couldn't. I figured she was hungry, b/c she didn't finish her bedtime bottle--was too tired and fell asleep before she was done. And we've cut back to only 4 oz on the dreamfeed. So I figured something must have woke her up and she couldn't go back to sleep, b/c she realized she was hungry. So I fed her (first nighttime feeding in months!). She ate 5.5 oz and went back to sleep and didn't stir until 9:00!!! She's a little off schedule today b/c of it, but I wanted her to get good rest (and I needed sleep!). Hopefully we'll get things ironed out today and be back on tonight. It's so funny how far I've come about stuff like this. If this had happened 3 or 4 months ago, I would have freaked out! But now I think I've learned to go with the flow. I owe it all to BW and you girls! It helps so much to know there are other LOs and moms going through the same, and sometimes worse!
For those of you having problems with night wakings, I don't mean to minimize what you're going through...please don't take it that way. I'm just realizing how far I've come personally, and want to share. Hopefully you can look back to a few months ago and see how far you've come too! Hugs to all of you going through the worst of it...wishing you good sleep soon!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 18:04:25 pm
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 06, 2005, 18:25:39 pm
Man it's cold here!! -22 but at least the wind has died down from yesterday!! :shock:
Richelle - still cold in Saskatoon I would imagine?? They say it will warm up here in the next few days.
Hi Bianca - what an adorable picture of Ky and Si...very cute!
Mickey - didn't know you were building as well. Good for you. You and Jody can compare notes! We leave Thursday and come back next Wednesday night so maybe the week after, or after Christmas. I go back to work January 11. Yikes, it is coming up fast now!!
I know what you mean about trying to get up after having to get up a couple of times a night, how did we manage a few months ago??
Nancy - Olivia is 24 lbs?? LOL she is very cute indeed. Love the new Christmas avatar!! Do you have her carseat switched to forward facing now?? My carseat says fwd facing at 20 lbs...?
Jo - yes, our Molly is very vocal in her food dislikes as well. She will eat something really well one day, then the next refuse it by clamping her mouth shut and shaking her head back and forth. Can't figure these darn little ones out!!
Naomi - OMG lady, you get a huge gold star and many, many hugs for putting up with your "friend" and her BF. Craziness. What is up with people anyways?? Give someone an inch and they take a mile!! :shock:
Cathy - being Canadian too, I know it is a $1.45 stamp to England from here. HTH!
Judy - LOL @ the vasectomy comment. Men are such wimps aren't they?? :wink:
Traci - sounds like Cole's sleeping is on the mend?? Hope so for your sanity!! Thanks for the link to the Heinz site, great info there!
Erin - Happy 9 months to Little Katie. She seems tall and skinny from your post about height and weight. Model material!! LOL
8) :lol:
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 19:07:46 pm
Traci-wouldn't be surprised if the zucchini would be upsetting his little tummy. It causes gas for me (sorry if TMI), so can imagine for a lo. Since discovering that peas cause T gas I have yet to try them again! Hope the zucchini was the offender so you can have that solved.
Holly-what is this good news Traci is teasing us with???
Judy-priceless eh?
Nancy-WOW Olivia is a little rolly polly! how cute. jsut ignore people, they do say the dumnest things right?!?!
Naomi-WTH is up with that? So sorry you had to deal with that. you are so sweet and to be repaid with that kind of bs is just crazy. You might want to think about contacting the admin and telling them to make her user id invalid here so she can no longer log in. Maybe I'm being paranoid but wouldn't want her knowing what was going on with me or my kids KWIM? Also, so glad you got another sitter. Let us know how it goes. Adorable hair by the way you hotty!!!
So we had a good night here last night with just a brief wakign at 5 am but who can blame the poor girl. Her 18 month old cousin and aunt and grandparents were here yesterday so she was all excited and took a bath wiht her cousin (sooo cute I will post pics later) and didn't get to bed till 8pm! :shock: So considering the late bedtiem I think she did well!
Naps is another story. We did have a good second one yesterday afternoon after waking her at the 1 hour mark from her mornign nap. The problem though is the way she is fighting naps with a blood curdling scream!!!! She usually is so great with going down. I think she just really wants to play now that she can crawl. Yesterday afternoon it took 30 minutes to get her down and today 20 minutes. I finally had to leave the room because she just seemed soooo mad that I was in there and not getting her up. So I left and she hollered for about 2 min. and then went to sleep :roll: :?: Hate to leave her when she is crying but what else can I do?
On a positive note though, she has started to recognize her books, mainly Goodnight Moon. 2 nights ago when I got it out to read at bedtime she got this HUGE smile, and the same thing last night! So cute!
:arrow: :arrow: FINALLY, WE GOT OUR FIRST ROUND OF SAMPLES BACK FROM THE SCREEN PRINTER FOR TAYLOR MADE!!! I will post a picture later with Taylor wearing one of the designs. I hope you all liek them. Kind of discouraged because my goal of having everything up and running by December is not going to happen, but I want it to look perfect before we launch...so it may not be till January now. Oh well :(
Have a good day everyone!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 06, 2005, 19:47:02 pm
Big news here, we have our first tooth! Woke up Saturday morning and the grandparents house and there it was. Although it's crooked! :cry: I hope it straightens out, it's pointing inwards if that makes sense. Won't look very good in those toothy photos later, but hey, at least he's got one!
Also, we've discovered that we think Daniel needs a bed time of about 7.30pm to sleep past 5am. However in saying that, since having it work for the last 4 mornings, thismorning he woke at 5.15am again. I'm hoping it's just a slight hitch in in the pattern and he'll go back to 6.30am - 7.15am that he has been doing. It's harder having him up an hour longer at night, but much better in the mornings. Daniel's naps have all got moved out a little accordingly, so he's still only awake the same length of time, but I think his body clock is still not working 'right' and is a little confused in the afternoon. Anyway, I'll keep at it a little bit longer and see how he goes. If he continues waking again early I'll change it back. But I do know they can regress.
DH came home last Friday and we drove to Wellington that night. We spent from 10.30am until about 2.00pm in the garden at our rental property on Saturday, then decided we'd pay someone to do the rest. We did a big chunk of it, but didn't want to spend the whole weekend there. Especially as I've still got a blocked nose and DH was tired from work. So we enjoyed the rest of our weekend by relaxing. DH went off again Monday morning for the week, so it's just Daniel and I again. He's back on Thursday or Friday though, then only a couple of days at work next week, then he's on holiday for about 3-4 weeks. YAY!!!!! :D We're not planning on going or doing anything inparticular, due to finances really, so no idea what we'll get up to. I've said I don't want the holiday to be just the same as every other day of my life at the moment staying at home, and that I want to do some 'exploring' around the area. Fine for him, he wants to be at home cause he always goes away. So hopefully we'll find a compromise and do something a little different while he's off.
I haven't done my cards yet sorry ladies. I hope to do so soon. I feel really behind with everything at the moment, I think the cold that's still lurking is draining my motivation for anything much. I've also got a pile of washing to get rid of, housework to do, cooking for Daniel etc all waiting for me. I think I'll get onto it today, make it my goal for the day.
As for food, Daniel's doing really well. I had a look at that planner that Traci attached. That's all well and good, but there's no way Daniel would eat that much (I don't think). Although I've noticed if I give him veges, then once he closes his mouth to say no, sometimes he'll take some fruit. But I've also read you shouldn't always give them fruit after veges as they end up not eating veges and waiting for fruit. So do you give it at the same time??? I made some spaghetti bolognaise for D yesterday. I'll try him with it today. Didn't add the spaghetti though, I guess I should have.
:oops: At least I've finally made a meat dish to give him with his veges. I've borrowed a really good recipe book from a friend so I'm going to try to make lots of meals from it. For you Kiwi / Aussie mum's it says we can give cherio's/cocktail sausages at 8-9 months as a snack. Says you can freeze them. Just peel skins before giving to them. So I might give that a go next time I go shopping.
Okay, enough from me. I'll try and keep up now. :oops:
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 06, 2005, 19:55:58 pm
Post by: B&BMommy on December 06, 2005, 20:53:54 pm
Good news: - Saturday and Sunday nights were the most amazing nights ever for sleep with Brady. Saturday he had one wake up wanted to play a bit, and then settled himself back to sleep Yah!,,, then....Sunday night, he slept through the whole night, Has NEVER done this before, I repeat...NEVER done this....Super YAH!!!! he went to bed at 8 pm settled in about 5 minutes, a few stirrings through out the night, no complete wakings and then work up for breakfast the next morning at 6:45am....I'm was scared to post in case I jinxed myself. But....now onto the not so good news....
last night was not a good night, so I guess I'm jinxed anyway....he went down again at 8pm, didn't settle well at all, still trying at 9 pm. then woke at 10pm for a few minutes of crying, then back down, up again at 12am for a bit, back down, then up again at 2am till 5:30 am....OMG....back to our old way of things...I'm hoping its not going to change back, I was spoiled with those two great nights....
Traci pointed out that maybe its the Fenugreek I've been taking. I just started it yesterday as my milk supply is really slowing down, Brady isnt' happy nursing anymore so I've had to give him a bottle half milk half formula...he can't take full formula, it really bothers his reflux for some reason....I've can't seem to produce anymore milk for him, so the dr told me to take fenugreek to help increase milk production....maybe its bothering him.... :? I'll not take it tomorrow and see what happens.
Oh ya...yesterday Brady started to pull himself up onto his knees...Yippee!!! I'm so happy....waiting for him to do it again though :!:
Ok, I'll catch up with all of you after, have to run and have a shower now.
This was to be a short post...lol..oh well :roll:
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Erin M on December 06, 2005, 21:12:47 pm
Andrea - can't wait to see the designs!
Hayley - Good to hear from you - seems like you're finally getting towards feeling better! So happy that DH will be home for an extended period of time.
Post by: Erin M on December 06, 2005, 21:14:28 pm
Post by: kate585 on December 06, 2005, 21:25:59 pm
Holly, WAHOOOO! Don't get too upset about the backslide...they say it always happens, but now you know he can do it and that all of your hard work is paying off! Aren't you glad you ran into Traci that day at the mall? :wink:
Nancy: Ryan is pushing 23 lbs. and he's pretty tall...we go in for an appt. next week, so I'll give you all the official stats. He's wearing all 12-18 mo clothes now. So sad b/c he just zoomed through the 6-9 mo. and 9-12 mo. clothes and we had some cute ones, too! :?
Bianca: So glad to "see" you and your GORGEOUS kids!!!
Bec/Traci, I was singing the kookaburra song here, too!
Andrea: CONGRATS on the samples. I know you'd rather have a wonderful product out there than worry about your deadlines. You had no idea how long it would take the guy to get set up. And, just think, you'll probably be ready just in time for our lo's b-days, so it's perfect! :D
Hayley: Welcome back! ADORABLE little bear, as ever!
Can't remember who I responded to and who I didn't in the last post, so I'll just say a quick way to go/sorry it's stinkin' and hope that covers everyone. :wink:
As for us...a so-so report: Nap # 2 is getting to be a pain in the rump! Yesterday did pu/pd for 70 mins. only to get a 40 min. nap. :evil: Then, he went down like a dream, since he was so tired.
Up at 11 or so. Dh said he'd take care of it so I could sleep. (As if!) But, he tried and after 20 mins. or so of pretty steady crying I popped my head in. Dh was sitting in the chair and Ryan was lying (laying?) in the crib sobbing. I said, "Why don't you go over there and put your hand on his hip or something?" He said, "In the book, it says to leave them alone unless they stand up." :roll: A little info is a dangerous thing. So, I went over there and he was silent in about 1 min. and asleep in about 3! :D (I should not be so proud...we are supposed to be on the same team here...just doesn't feel like it this week. :cry: )
But...Ryan was up about 30 mins. later, so I gave him Tylenol and he was right back to sleep. 4 1/2 hours later, same thing. That little tooth bud must have been bugging him.
Fine for nap # 1 at mil's then a short fight for # 2 here...we're 1 hour into it, so that's better than yesterday!
:?: Why does Ryan seem to lay a big turd a lot of the time when he is fighting sleep? Could he be doing it on purpose so I'll get him out of the crib? Could he be gassy, like Cole, and that's the issue? No change in diet or any other signs of discomfort though. Maybe he's fighting to stand up so hard it just all comes out? Hmmmm :?
:?: Why am I always writing about my son's digestive issues? You all must think I'm nutty!!!
Post by: kate585 on December 06, 2005, 21:28:01 pm
So glad, b/c I meant to say happy 9 months to Katie!!! That'll be Ryan in a few days. Isn't it weird? They are such little people all of the sudden.
Love the pictures, too. The tree looks very tempting!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 21:41:53 pm
Andrea--thanks! You're right people do say the dumbest things...I just have to keep reminding myself.
Hayley--we also stayed home for our vacation (also due to finances), but we planned one fun "outing" each day and got to do things in our area that we rarely take the time to do: go to the zoo, visit a pumpkin patch, go on a picnic, etc. I think you'll find plenty of fun things to do....enjoy!
Well, Liv is waking after only 25 min...better go see what's going on.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 06, 2005, 21:58:56 pm
I love all the new avatars and posted pictures! Isn't it cool that we can follow everyone's lo as they grow up and do cute things? My local friends don't even know as much about Arwyn as you girlies!
Naomi... I love the haircut... I meant to comment on it long ago :oops: . And what a nightmare about Janean!!! Some people, huh? Now, for a high school comment... FRIENDS FOREVER... about the friends we've met here!
Happy 9 months, Katie and Happy 8 months, Cole!
Hayley... welcome back and WHAT A CUTE PIC! I love the naked one and the strategicaly placed ornament. He is such a cutie.
Nancy... I love chubby babies. I know what you mean about the comments though... almost all my friends who are Chinese comment about how the caucasian in Arwyn must be influencing her heftiness :x .
Food... yes... Arwyn will refuse foods too. I often have to let her have a toy :oops: so that she will eat. It has become a prop, I kid you not, the child must have a toy in her hand before she will open her mouth for ANY food now. So...about the offending food... I just keep offering it at subsequent meals... sometimes I will wait a week, sometimes not; sometimes mix it with cereal or another food.
No proteins or meat here yet. I think I will start at 9 months. Traci, thanks for the menu planner... I think I don't feed Arwyn enough either but when I asked her doctor, his comment was "Whatever amount she eats is fine." How helpful is that? :roll:
Umm... lots of comments about sleep and naps... we also have a short AM nap (45-60 m) and longer PM nap (1.5-2 h) but sometimes both of them require quite the finessing. Night sleeps are improving but still getting up 3-4 times). She is teething again... her cute little tongue keeps flicking her upper gums and I can feel the teeth so... hopefully only a couple of more rough nights left (sighing emoticon here).
Okay... why is Arwyn hysterical at nap times now? She needs to be held to sleep... pretty much stage 3 of sleep before I put her down. If I put her down right away in her crib, she will instantly freak out before realizing that "hey... I'm in my crib... pull up time!!!" and then proceed to pull up and "rattle her cage" as DH and I put it :lol: . I have left her before (for about 10 m) but all that gets me is an over-tired baby who then takes over 40 minutes to settle... SETTLE, never mind sleep.
So... I have resorted to holding her until she is drifting off which usually takes me about 5 minutes. This has only happened in the last 3 days or so. I can't quite understand it. She has been a funny one about settling down to sleep... she has gone back and forth from being able to fall asleep from awake, to needing to be held to sleep the entire nap (very rare) and everywhere in between. I am stumped... anybody have any suggestions?
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 06, 2005, 21:59:17 pm
We have been having difficulties with nap #2 here too. I think the problem is too short of A time. I think I am misreading bored cues/fusses as tired cues/fusses. I also think sometimes I'm thinking..."OK, MOMMY is ready for you to have a nap...wether YOU are ready or not.." As I have said before they grow and change so fast it's hard for me to remember sometimes to grow and change with her.
BTW, first work day is Thursday, day after tomorrow, and thanks to you lovely ladies, I am actually feeling pretty ok about it. I will definately be posting during lunch or at recess :) on that day.
I went out last night and bought two new bras!!! How exciting huh? I obviously don't want or need to wear nursing bras any more...funny, even though Sophie didn't latch I always wore bf bras becasue it was easier with pumping...anyhow...my boobs are so much smaller now (although the right one is significantly larger than the left...what these babes do to our bodies I tell ya!) but still not quite as small as they were to begin with. Hence the new bras. Plus...sorry if tmi, but has anyone noticed that they have much more noticeable nipples after bfing? I had to get a thicker bra to hide my headlights (or my one headlight...again on the right side, weird huh?)
Richelle...lol at Sophie being chubby with bubbies :) I love it. I have a friend who is absolutely obsessed with weight. Her own, mine, her dog's, my child's....her future child's ...sheesh...it drives me crazy. I want to scream at her...not everyone is a size 4(or wants to do what it may take to be one)!!! So get over it!!! And please watch your comments in front of my child because I don't want her to have a complex too. (eventually...how are we going to deal with that with these girls??...issues with weight are starting sooo early now). This woman is also a running partner of mine and tends to be a little slower...I try to encourage her to consider the possibility that her body is starving for fuel...but you just can't change these folks who have these issues with weight. I don't mean to make light of it either, nor do I eman to say that I am issue free. I do however wish people would leave our babes out of it. grrr... :roll:
So yes, ignore ignore ignore silly comments about baby's weight you own weight, your dog's weight, dh's weight etc. :)
Congrats to Holly for brady's sleep through! And to Traci for figuring out the food thing.
We don't really to an afternoon snack btw, I guess i thought the late afternoon milk feed was considered a snack?? But we do sometimes do a morning snack before lunch if we are out and about, espceially when she doesn't take a good feed at 10:30ish. HTH.
Jo, thanks for the warm thoughts. I loved reading that.
Andrea good of you to wait for it to be right. I am sooo impatient and have regretted it sooo many times. And yes....like kate said, birthday gifts. I can't wait to see the pics.
Enought from me for now. oh wait...one more thing.
Naomi, I just have to say once again my hat's off to you. I think I would be ahving a nervous break down if I had to look for new childacre after starting my new job where I am being graded etc etc. I am such a fanatic about having everything ready/pinned down/taken care of before that first day of school (The important stuff...you know...clean sheets, new bras, clean house
:wink: :roll: ) I definately lack your flexibility and ability to make a decision on the fly and go with it. So good for you. Wow.
OK, later chickies.
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 06, 2005, 22:06:04 pm
Also, Who was it who said that they were going to be in Seattle on Dec. 8th? I am sorry I can't remember :oops: but I know it was mentioned during chat on Friday.
I would love to get together. I know I mentioned that the 8th is my first day of work. So obviously that doesn't work, but I think you said you were here for a few days? It is going to be a busy weekend for us too. It's Brendan's birthday on the 8th so we are celebrating this weekend. But if you can, get back to me, maybe maybe we could meet up. If not this trip, maybe another time?
Hannah
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 06, 2005, 22:08:53 pm
Congrats on the new bras!! :lol: and being able to hide the headlight(s) :shock: :lol: Your comment made me laugh because I need to wear padded bras to hide my enormous nipples on my teeny tiny breasts!!! TMI, sorry!
Good luck with school on Thursday! Bring a picture of Sophie and maybe some when she had developmental milestones and bring your students "up to speed". You know most of these students even if you had not taught them this year, right? You mentioned you work in a small community. They would love to hear about Sophie! (Of course, you can also turn it into a teaching moment... you know, journal entry, "Know, Wonder, Learn", sequencing, time line... the list goes on!) You could probably fill your whole day with it! :wink:
Post by: james030405 on December 06, 2005, 22:25:42 pm
Naomi: I hope your experience with your nanny hasn't put you off. :oops: there are some good ones out there. I am glad you have found someone who is happy to do your routine.
Jo: James eats anything and everything in sight. Although I think he has the opposite problem to Fraser. He prefes savoury things to sweet things. I thought it was becasue fruits etc were really cold from the fridge, but he drinks his milk cold from the fridge, so I think it is the sweet things. BTW, how are swimming lessons going?
Katie: Happy 9months. Hope the next are just as exciting. :D
Judy: I hope you get lots of cuddles.
I am not sure who said about the vasectomy. I actually got DH a pamphlet on it and nothing has been said. LOL :o
I am sorry I haven't replied to anyone else personally. How do you ladies reply to everyone? I cannot remember what was on the last page! :shock: :shock:
Anyway, I am feeling a little bad this morning. James has been sleeping great. Naps are great and he is generally sleeping through the night. On the odd night, he wakes a couple of timesbut a few pats later, he is asleep. This mornign when he woke at 5am and wouldn't go back to sleep, I felt angry and also at DH who was leaving for work. Then I thought, I shouldn't feel like this. I have it easy compared to some of you poor ladies :oops: :cry: So please forgive me for feeling angry at my early start.
On brighter news, James has totally given away bottles now. We are using a cup with a straw in it. He seems to much prefer it. :D No more buying teats. It is especially good, because I can give it to him inthe car or in the pram and he can drinkwhile we are out instead of waiting till we get home for a bottle.
Just a question to the Aussie mums who are experience our heatwave at the moment: are you finding your lo's seem to be more sleepy? Although James woke at 5, he can usually stay awake until at least 8:30am if not closer to 9am as this is his normal nap #1 time. But today, (I think by 8am it is close to 30 degrees already) he went to bed at 7:45am? :?
Naps in our house seem to be nap #1, usually for about 1.5hrs - 2hrs. Nap #2, usually 1hr.
Sorry for thelong post and also not responding to everyone, hope everyone is well and happy :D
thanks for thelovely support and friendship. I feel blessed that Ihave found this site, but especially since I found this forum. It has been my savour.
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 22:28:31 pm
Hannah and Ankie-Yup, nap troubles on this front too (I reported earlier). I think it is a combo of getting the right A time figured out and them just really wantign to play now with all their new found skills. Good news though is that today for nap #2 for MIL she went down like a breeze! :D 27 minutes into it and counting.
Hayley-welcome back! what a cutie he is. love the naked babe picture!
okay, back to invoicing for DH!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 22:30:35 pm
I guess her long night and late morning has really thrown her off. She went down for nap #1 when she should have been waking up and only slept for 45 min. I might have spoke too soon this morning about taking it all in stride. I wouldn't be stressing about it, except DH will be home soon and we're supposed to be getting family pictures done and I haven't even gotten ready yet! So, he'll come home to a cranky baby and wife still in sweats and no makeup! Then he's going out with the guys tonight, so I have bedtime duty all to myself....joy of all joys. I think I'll try to put her down a little early, and maybe we can get back on track for tomorrow.
Wait, there's silence, maybe she's asleep....nope, no such luck.
Later.
Post by: becca24 on December 06, 2005, 22:47:11 pm
Mickey& Erin - LOL at the animal thing - I have only seen chipmunks on cartoons and deer at deer farms :? !! I was trying to come pick out some christmas cards for you all yesterday but couldn't decide. I think now I will get the one's with kookaburra's on the front !
Jo - I haven't made the fruit gel yet but I would use the Junior juice if I did. Because it is so hot here I froze some apple&blackcurrant junior juice in ice cubes, then wrapped one up in some muslin, tied a knot in it and Halle had a great time sucking it!!
Traci - I was thinking I wasn't feeding Halle enough solids either, but I am worried if I give her more she won't drink enough breastmilk???? Silly of me really when there are starving babies in the world and I am worried about breast before solids, not enough solids, too many solids, etc etc etc etc :roll: :roll:
Kate - I actually read an article the other day about lo's doing poos just to get out of bed. I will see if I can find it for you.
Speaking of poo - Halle has done FIVE poos since I used the suppository yesterday. It was not a pleasant thing to do but at least it has helped :)
BEAUTIFUL PICTURES EVERYONE !! KEEP THEM COMING.
Post by: Judy on December 06, 2005, 22:49:45 pm
Like now - I remember Haley said something I was going to comment on - but... nope I can't remember it.
As for food - gosh if I put anything but cereal in these girls' mouths - OMG look out. They will scream the house down as though I'm cutting their arm off with a dull knife!! No kidding. They'll accept a couple spoons of yogurt - MAYBE, a couple bites of banana and applesauce but nada on everything else I've tried. It seems such a waste of time to be making them food myself since most of it gets thrown down the drain anyway. 7 months and almost one week and barely eating food. Yet they dive for all of MY food. Crazy girls :) I can just see it now - they'll be 18months and refusing anything but the breast and I'll be as haggered looking as can be. :)
Naps - you know if one of the girls wakes after 30min or so I have often gotten them up still in their babyinabag sleep sac and just sit with them for 10-15min and then take them back to bed. Sometimes with success and sometimes not. And sometimes I forget all about it. Today after Kaia's second nap (Hannah woke early) I went in to find Sarah in the crib with her AGAIN. Not sure if Sarah went in after hearing Kaia or if Kaia woke because Sarah was lying beside her :roll:
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 06, 2005, 22:57:46 pm
Bec-Yay! I vote for the cards with the kookoobooboos or whatever they're called! :lol:
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 06, 2005, 23:04:01 pm
Also, forgot to say lol at "Screaming the tent down" :)...not that it was funny while it was happening.
Also...Judy I am SURE that brendan would crawl in the crib with Sophie if he could but instead we often find him sleeping under her crib....
Gotta go, baby up.
Hannah
Post by: Judy on December 06, 2005, 23:14:22 pm
That's cute that Brendan sleeps under the crib :)
Post by: Colesmom on December 06, 2005, 23:35:12 pm
Ankie-thanks for pointing out my sons bday because i hadn't noticed :oops:
Andrea-can't wait to see pic of the merchandise! Best to wait until you're sure you've dotted all your i's and crossed all your Taylor's :D Don't worry about letting her cry a couple of minutes. I WISH I could do that. Used to leave Cole to do that all the time. Now he's hysterical in one minute. Kate-was it you who's having the same issue?
Hayley-love the photos...esp. the naked one.
Kate-Cole pooped a couple of times too last week! Not sure if intentional or just had to go! LOL on always discussing digestive issues. If I had to be honest, I am completely obsessed with Coles poop. How often, how much, the consistency. I mean really, it consumes me :D
Erin-LOL at Katie's face that is priceless!
Lisa-very cool he's only using cup/straw now. I can't wait to get there!
Judy-as I mentioned above-totally cute with Sarah in the crib. Hope things have calmed down a touch today and you can spend some time with DH.
:D :D :D can you see me smile....read on girls!
OKAY-I could go on and on and on and on about my day but I will try to keep it short. :D First we'll talk sleep. Woke at 5:40. Nap #1, 1:45 after 2:30 A. Nap #2, 1:25 after 2:50 A. :shock: :shock: :shock: Best two naps in like FOREVER.
Now food. Breakfast kept much the same. Printed menu planner off for lunch. I used to give Cole about 2-3 tbsp of cereal and 2-4 tbsp fruit/veg. Today I prepared 14 tbsp of food and he ate ALL but 2 tbsp. Maybe the reason for the good nap? Carb coma perhaps??
Tried a snack after 2pm BF but he was having none of the highchair so gave up. hmmm, still full from lunch??
Dinner: Used to give about 3-4 tbsp cereal and 4-6 tbsp veg. Tonight I gave him about 15 tbsp consisting of carrots, peas, apple and cereal. He ate it ALL without pause and I think I could have given him more :shock: For those obsessed with numbers like me, I was just curious and I counted...he had 80 heaping spoonfuls of food. CRAZY!
Then bath then BF and he fed as good or better than usual :?
So, if there is EVER a night this boy sleeps through it should be tonight! He fed to sleep unfortunately but when I put him down I said good night and he woke a bit and wanted to hold my hand so I consider that settling on his own to a certain degree.
Thank you Holly for the Heinz info!
So, if there was ever a GREAT day in this house, it was today.
can you see my little dance. :wink:
okay, going to make a celebration dinner!
Post by: becca24 on December 06, 2005, 23:55:08 pm
Traci - congrats on your great day !! You have inspired me to try feeding more solids today. How much is 15 tbspoons? would that be equal to a cup of food or more? I suppose I could measure it myself............ :lol:
Post by: Colesmom on December 07, 2005, 00:01:19 am
2tbsp = 1oz = 1 ice cube.
To give an idea he had a half jar of carrots (2oz or 4tbsp), half jar of peas, half jar of apples and a few tbsp rice. Can you tell I haven't cooked for a while :(
Post by: Jayri on December 07, 2005, 00:12:42 am
Judy I did do all what you thought I did, way too much I know, but part of me wanted to help a "friend" have the helping step to get on her feet like we did.
Anyhoo enough of that stuff, I have half of my cards done, I have to get some more tho, I ran out....not bad as last year I was a grinch and didn't send any, but then again I didn't really have any1 to send them to either.
Riley too is chowing down anything we give her, I think someone forgot to tell her she only has two teeth, she is getting more, but they are taking their grand old time coming in.
Hannah, you are awesome, thanks for thinking I am soo wonderful, well that goes for everyone really. The look on her face was priceless when I said she wouldn't be having Ri anymore. I think dhe was amazed I could find someone else.
Ri's sitter said it all went well today, but her teeth were hurting her a little too much to have more than one bottle, but she came home all happy.
I have to make this short and sweet, I have to get the kids bags ready for tomorrow. ANd I am heading for an early night, with last nights goings on it was after midnight before my head hit the pillow,and I was up at 6:30 to get the kids ready.
Oh traci, I walked home today, 45mins it took me, plus I am trying my best to eat good at work, I go to the food court in the mall downstairs every day, but I make sure there is a salad or something similar for lunch.
k my fellow hotties, man that made me feel good when you said Iam a hottie, what would I do without you fine ladies......
I will check in before work like I normally do.......
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 07, 2005, 00:32:28 am
Nancy, I used to get comments about Nathan's weight and him being a "big boy" and "what did we feed the kid?" and maybe I fed him too much (even when he was only on breastmilk 3hrs apart :roll: ) - strangely he's only ever been 50% for height and weight, he's just got a chubby look to him. Our of my ante-natal group most were lean looking babies, and only 2 of them had the chubby look.
Boobs and headlights - yep puts hand up here too! :shock: And it's t-shirt weather now!
Wow, for the first time last night Danielle was up and grizzling in the night for an hour - have no idea what the problem was, I fed her and put her back to bed and she didn't want to me to leave. Trust it to be on a night that Nathan slept through :roll: :wink: . I'm thinking she's starting with sep anx too, yesterday for the first time she dropped her lip and bawled her eyes out when a friend looked at her and when one of the carers from Nathan's preschool said hello to her she burrowed her head into my shoulder. Bless her.
Someone was talking about signing quite a few pages back :oops: . I think D's been signing "more food" in the last couple of days, too cute.
Bianca, good to see a new pic of the kids, they look so alike, and lovely big smiles! :D
Traci, yay for your good napping
Andrea, look forward to seeing some pics of your range - good to hear that it's BLACK clothing and not GOLD/GREEN LMAO (sorry Aussies :wink: ) - just a little NZ vs Aussie joke on national sports colours.
Judy, I too didn't bother making food before Danielle took to it, felt such a waste. She still loves her rice cereal as a result I think, whereas Nathan never ever liked it but ate real food from the start. How are the girls with finger foods? D's really taken to them, in the last few weeks I've tried little vege patties, pasta, oven fries, and a few other things.
Hayley, interesting about not offering fruit after veges always - I haven't heard that. I often chase up mains with fruit/yoghurt. Nathan did eat fruit for a looooong time though so there could be something in that, but now eats pretty much anything.
OK, funny big boy story: Yesterday Nathan was riding around the house on his little ride-on truck while naked (the seat has a little split in it), anyway he got off and started complaining that he'd hurt himself down there (guess the plastic pinched him) - I asked if he'd hurt his "testicles" (since that what DH delights in calling them) and he said "NO, NOT MY TESTICLES!!!!" - just sounded so funny coming from a 2yo's mouth. LOL :lol:
Right, that's all I can remember for now.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 07, 2005, 01:08:53 am
Also, Ankie thanks for the lesson ideas with Sophie as the main focus..great idea!
And Lisa. Wow james on the cup 100% I also can't wait to get there.
Traci...yay!!! Great job. Hope you have a great night :)
Hannah
Post by: Jayri on December 07, 2005, 01:41:10 am
Post by: Judy on December 07, 2005, 01:45:44 am
Nikki the only finger food I've given so far is dry cheerios (circle cereal). Kaia is thrilled but Hannah just choked and threw up. Should keep giving them though. How do you make your veggie patty?
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 07, 2005, 01:48:12 am
Andrea, are you just doing clothing? Or other stuff too? I think someone should make a grobag/sleeping bag that's made of 100% cotton that DOESN'T cost $80 - $120 NZD. It seems soooo expensive I can't justify it. But it's annoying only having one sleeping bag. I'm wondering what I'll dress/sleep Daniel in as it gets warmer at night. Nikki and Karen, what are your LO's wearing at the moment in the evenings?
Ohh just heard a noise, better go. We're off to the swimming pool to meet a friend shortly now he's awake.
Bye ladies!
Post by: B&BMommy on December 07, 2005, 02:13:45 am
Wow, so much to get caught up on...lol...doing my best, but I must say, you girls can sure make me smile...no matter what is happening in this house, (kookoobooboos, headlights needing to be covered, toddlers climbing into siblings bed, or under them for that matter...lmao!!!
Andrea - looking forward to seeing a picture of the merchandise.
Traci - I'm so happy about your great naps today, and that the increase in food may just help Yah!
Hayley - just LOVE the pics, sooo cute!!!
Nikki - sorry you had a bit of a rough night, hope its better tonight
Erin-love the pic, isn't her face just so cute...
Question - I've read a few times that some of you are offering yogurt...is there a specific kind, or any kind, I just thought we had to wait until 12 months to add any kind of milk products at all?? Just curious.
Thats all I can remember for now, have to start writing stuff down like Traci does if I'm gonna remember it all, this board moves fast.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: becca24 on December 07, 2005, 02:14:37 am
Who is still doing 4 bf's during the day? When and how are you planning to go to 3?
Post by: B&BMommy on December 07, 2005, 02:17:05 am
Post by: Judy on December 07, 2005, 02:39:51 am
I am still doing 4 bf's per day, sometimes 5 even. I find the girls very fussy around 4.30-5pm, especially if they haven't had a catnap because there either wasn't time or I forgot - like today, I couldn't remember when they'd woken from that 2nd nap (had to do with not remembering when I put them down :oops:) and by 5pm it was evident that we weren't going to get through the evening or bath easily. So I give them a feed and let them snooze for 15min through it and it gives us a fresh breath for bath and for supper.
Yogurt - I am giving yogurt. I believe I'm doing it earlier than recommended. I gave it at 7mos with my older two and they were fine. I decided to give it to Kaia and Hannah early too as they just weren't taking to anything but the cereal at the time. Now they've come round to banana and applesauce... but they only eat, honestly, maybe 3-4 baby spoons of any of these things. :roll:
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 07, 2005, 03:06:47 am
OK, needing to vent: we did familiy pics tonight after a LOOOOONG afternoon with only a 25-min nap. I knew it wouldn't go well, Liv was already tired and cranky when we started. Well, it DIDN'T go well, but instead of just shaking it off, I completely lost it and broke down. I was all upset because our last family pictures didn't turn out well either, Liv was also tired b/c we had to wait an hour at the photographer before we got in. I wanted good pics to send out with Christmas cards, and we never can seem to make it work. That's something I normally wouldn't get upset over...I'd be disappointed, but there would be no yelling or crying (yes, there were both). There have been other things recently, too, that I'll get all upset over, have a good cry, then think "what was my problem? it really wasn't that big a deal." Has anyone else experienced anything like that? Could it still be pregnancy hormones? Or is it just that motherhood turns you into a neurotic, emotional, basket-case? Or is it just me? (Please don't say it's just me. :) )
Post by: Richelle on December 07, 2005, 03:18:50 am
A lot going on today...phewwww!
Thanks for the food link Traci/Holly. Sophie seems to be on track but she hasn't increased her intake and seems bored to be honest. She is much moe interested in whatever we are eating. I give her finger foods but still have to feed her, the only 'food' she will hold happily to eat is a gerber biter biscuit AKA cookie :? ! She also is obsessed with cheerios, she LOVES them, she will pick them up in between her little fingers and then ever so gently drop them to the floor and when they do get to her mouth, she takes 9 years to chew ONE!
Holly - Brady is adorable and looks so much like you! I feed Sophie Yogurt,my ped said it is fine to give as long as it is full fat.
Erin - Katie's face is soo funny - what a cutie pie!
Bec - I am feeding Sophie a bottle 4 times a day. Too bad your camping trip didn't go better, next time!
Nikki - Testicles ROTFLMAO- so cute and so funny!
Traci - So glad Cole is getting back to normal, even if it is carb induced!!
Love Love Love the boob talk - My chichis went from bad to worse in the space of a few months...I truely don't like talking about it!
Must get to bed, I was supposed to go out with some friends to do some 'catch up' but it is too f^%&%^ cold am i am going to bed.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 07, 2005, 03:26:30 am
Hayley, forgot to mention before, Nathan's first two teeth came through crooked and because they were the only one's in there I really noticed it, now I don't. Also, I've heard that just because their baby teeth are crooked doesn't mean that their adult teeth necessarily will be. As far as nightwear - D's wearing a singlet, lightweight footed jammies and I put a lightweight blanket over her legs.
Bec, I'm still doing 4 day feeds and she gets one (unnecessary :roll: ) night feed. With Nathan I dropped him to 3 at 10mths.
We're doing yoghurt - here we're advised to start on yoghurt and cheese from 8-9mths and whole milk for adding to cooking. I don't buy baby yoghurt though, just a natural unsweetened acidophilus high fat one.
Vege patties - ok what I do for Nathan is grate carrot, courgette (zucchini), onion, potato into a bowl, squeeze well add some flour and an egg - but in D's case I just took the mixture out before adding the egg and put a little olive oil in the mixture to make it bind, then lightly fried. Doesn't sound too tasty, but it was one posted on here a while back from Annabel Karmel (or something like that) and it was a hit for my at-the-time non-vege boy.
Rightl, better go, Nathan's just fallen asleep and it after 4pm, D's not settlign for a catnap even though she only did 45mins earlier on and has been awake since 1.30pm. Oh boy, not looking forward to later. I jsut gave her a BF to seee if it would settle her, but no such luck.
Ciao.
Post by: Richelle on December 07, 2005, 03:36:22 am
Don't worry about it, oh and I meant to tell you that a lady on the plane said to me about Sophie "Oh my, she doesn;t miss a meal does she!" I told her that "no, I'm actually putting steroids in her milk". I guess that was the not so laid back part of me and it Had been a long day already!
Night Night Ladies!
Post by: becca24 on December 07, 2005, 03:45:45 am
:lol: :lol: at the testicle thing!! The other day I was helping my nephew get dressed (just turned 4) and noticed he had no undies. I said "Jake, don't you wear undies?? He said "Nah I get sore balls" !! :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ankie - How do you make your prunes for Arwyn? I just tried to make some for Halle and ended up in a big bloody mess :roll: :roll: I thought my blender was going to blow up - and with my electricity phobia it almost gave me a heart attack !!!
Nancy - I second what Richelle said ! I used to be laid back as well now I get emotional all the time !!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 07, 2005, 04:11:08 am
OK, back to dinner...
Post by: mickymuscles on December 07, 2005, 04:12:51 am
I can't get caught up!! Too much going on.
Anyways....caught the gist of boobie talk...so sad :( I used to be so proud of my perky boobs that saluted the sun but now they salute the sidewalk :( :roll:
So I've decided to go cold turkey with Jackson so now he is drinking 100% out of his nuby bottle for all feedings. He protested a bit this am but overall going pretty good. Tomorrow will be day 2 so should be better. He also started drinking juice and water out of a straw. It's rather disgusting the amount of backwash in his cup after but aleast he's figured out how to drink out of a straw....just a mental note not to share a drink with him!!! :shock:
I love all the pics girls!! These babes are getting so big! :(
Post by: hayes on December 07, 2005, 05:09:07 am
Bec-Still doing 4 bf here no idea when to change
Jo-Ben doesn't seem to like brocolli or green beans. I usually mix some apples or pears with them and he will have about 5 bites but lately I have been skipping them all together because I think they might hurt his tummy. He likes sweet potato and all fruit and really liked a pureed soup I made the other night. I usually save fruit for last and try to give veggies for lunch. FOr a while all he wanted was yogurt so I stopped giving that to him all together. I think we went through two 3 day food strikes where he only ate a few bites at each sitting, I think it was maybe teeth. ENOUGH ALL ready , sorry to give you a full case history.
Judy-Thinking about you w/o sleep and hoping it will come soon.
Holly-Ben eats Yo BABY yogurt
Kate-No problem about writing about digestion I am loving it and gaining lots of insight for my LO
Hannah-Oh my I had headlights before I was pregnant then they got bigger and now they are getting smaller but the center target isn't shrinking. I read that the reason why the central area gets big is so the LO can locate them. What was HE thinking? Ben isn't blind...I am hoping they will shrink soon considering DH said I was really stacked today when I walked in the room.
Nancy-Lots of emotions here but I am very cookoobara. Lots of other moms I have talked to are cookoo too so I guess we get that extra added bonus when we join the moms club.
Ankie-sorry no suggestions on the nap, I will keep thinking
Richelle-so funny about the steroids comment.
TMI get ready. WHen your LO'S have a cold and they wake up in the morning with snotty noses that are dried how do you get it off. I have been using a warm wet wash cloth any other ideas?
macaire
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 07, 2005, 05:09:57 am
Off to bed now. G'night.
Post by: FrasersMum on December 07, 2005, 06:36:59 am
Nikki - I can't wait to try those vege patties. BTW, since you brought it up :D :wink: are you a big sports buff?? What sports do you enjoy?? I love a good Aust v NZ match in just about anything so I'm always keen for some jibing!
Also, enjoying all the talk of balls and testicles - just a taste of what the coming years will bring :lol:
Bec - not even thinking about dropping to 3 feeds - we are still doing 4 day feeds and 1 or 2 night feeds :roll: Think I'll work on those night feeds first :lol:
I think that one of the problems we are having with food is I am being TOO adventurous. Today for lunch I had had enough of offering all my lovely homecooked food to have him growl at it so I popped open a couple of jars ..... which he scoffed! Saying something about my cooking already. :? I didn't think that what I was offering was too exotic given what I know a lot of you are serving up (I'm talking chicken or veal casserole, a mild vege korma, mediterrainian veges and chicken) but maybe he is just not ready for that sort of stuff yet. I'm going to cook up a great big batch of sweet potatos to mix through everything for a bit because he really enjoyed that for a while (I had to stop with it though because he started to turn orange!) Oh well, back to the basics and we'll see how that goes.
Oh, speaking of boobs - we were talking about this in one of the chats - I think you called it the pencil test?? Anyway, pre-baby, I laughed in the face of the pencil test ha ha ha. But now - oh, I'm too sad to go there!!
Ok, have a great day/night everyone
Post by: james030405 on December 07, 2005, 09:47:14 am
He said "Your nipples have gotten bigger since you stopped bf!" :? :x :D :cry: As you can see, I was not sure how to take that one.
We are still doing 4 milk feeds but I was told by a nurse that around 9mths they sometimes start to want only 3. James being James I think this is going to happen.
Jo, I often use couscous as an ingredient as it is sweet. I mix it with creamed corn and this goes down very well. (If your looking for something besides sweet potato)
In regards to separation anxiety, can it only happen at certain times? James goes down usually with no fuss or help for naps, but going down to bed he needs help. do you think they know theywon't be seeing you for a while? :? Oh well, another thing to try and work out.
Hope everyone has a lovely day
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Richelle on December 07, 2005, 14:00:19 pm
Well all you Aussie/Kiwi mom's seem to have such great recipes/ideas for your lo's food. Do you have a certain book you are all using? I am stumped with Sophie, she is really losing interest nd I know it is because she is bored with the infant cereal and purees. I love the veggie patties idea, maybe I will try it.
I did eggy bread the other morning but I need to tap into some unknown source of patience I have yet to discover with the whole finger foods thing *sigh* . Is anyone else's LO picking up and feeding themselves on a regular basis? Like i said, she loves to put everything on the floor or her head :roll:
Post by: Colesmom on December 07, 2005, 14:36:40 pm
Holly-hope your night went okay? how's the bum? totally cute pics btw, i can see why you went over your budget :D Maybe I'll start yoghurt too. I'm trying to think of proteins I can give without full teeth formed yet (still coming through). Yoghurt, egg yolk(trying tomorrow), tofu, jarred chicken (yuck but he ate it)
LOL at testicles and balls. sheesh, did i have to have a boy :? LOL
Oh yes, 5 feeds here still and last night a middle of the nighter. :roll:
Macaire-warm wet washcloth here too. When I was at the ped yesterday she also gave me some saline drops for his nose. if it's not runny it's dry so I use those before nap and stuff so it doesn't bother him
who did the veggie patty-bec? is it soft enough for those with no teeth?
Lisa-same here, down easier for naps than bed.
Our night wasn't so great. Up 3 times from 8:40-9:40, fed at 9:40. Up from 2:00-4:15 :roll: :shock: :cry: fed at 2:30 and 4:00, slept until 5:00, fed AGAIN, slept until 6:40.
Girls...PLEASE remind me tonight NOT to feel sorry for Cole at night. Remind me to be CONSISTENT and not hold him, feed him etc. I gave him Oval because I heard toots, tylenol because he still wasn't settling. Maybe it's just ME he wants and I have to teach him it's time to SLEEP not be with mama. He wasn't crying hard or anything, just wouldn't sleep. *sigh* Kate-how goes it??? Please give me inspiration.
okay, hoping for a 30 min. nap (for me) better head upstairs. I am doing my cards today, I am doing my cards today, I am doing my cards today. Maybe if I say it enough it will come true!
Post by: Judy on December 07, 2005, 15:06:11 pm
Lisa now you have me worried... your nipples got bigger AFTER you were done bf??? I was hoping they'd get smaller by then :( I know when I finished bf'ng Zoe and Sarah my breasts as a whole got much smaller and I was THRILLED with it. Can't remember my nipples so much. I'm hoping for smaller again. Before I got pregnant the first time I too laughed in the face of the pencil test - a nice perky 36B (maaybee C). While pregnant/nursing I ballooned to a 40D (which has been tight at times!) and really do NOT like the bigger boobs!! Even dh isn't so keen on it "wow, those things are huge aren't they!" :roll: If the nipples don't get smaller I'll be buying some nipple covers for sure!
Nikki Thanks for the recipe... maybe that will work for Zoe too - my previously awesome feeder turned "I don't like cooked veggies" girl.
Richelle well I have to say, um, uh, dropping food on the floor. So far it's probably not happening so much on purspose as you think. They're still figuring out control of grasping and letting go... soon though it will be on purpose and you'll get much more of it. If it makes ya feel any better did I mention that the other day Zoe wasn't pleased with her juice and poured it out on the floor (and my feet) :P Although take comfort in the fact that most kids don't do that. :roll: Cause and effect though is a very cool thing for these little ones... like "I let go of this and I hear a sound, see it roll, mom picks it back up, mom gets frustrated" :) How cool to notice some control over ones environment.
Traci sorry for the crummy night :( Being tired just plain sucks doesn't it?!!!!!!
So Hannah's been really working on her Darth Vader immitation and she's really good at it. So funny. Our night was ok... as far as Kaia and Hannah go. Kaia was up again at 11pm - so odd - and wouldn't settle. I think it's that top tooth but can't be sure. I ended up feeding her back to sleep as I was seriously getting annoyed. Pu/pd was only making her scream louder!! Then she slept till 5.15am (EARLY -but not as early as 4.45am :)) and Hannah slept right through till 6.15am. The other two... now gosh I think we were up with everyone at some point (except Hannah) between 10.30 and 12.30 :roll: Sarah was in our bed for awhile at some point. Zoe came in and asked me to come tuck her back in... the later just called me to come tuck her in. Oy!
Post by: Richelle on December 07, 2005, 15:40:52 pm
Traci - What a drag about your night but he will get it and stay strong!! I keep meaning to give you a call, I will sometime this week. I am staying at the airport Holiday Inn on the evening of the 13th. By the time I get to the hotel it will be after 5, so I am not sure that works as Cole goes down not long after. Anyway, I will chat with you about it sometime this week!
Sophie just made it past the 45 minute mark of her morning nap - YIPEE! I made the room darker which I think had really helped. Does anyone have those window blackout things? I was thinking I should pick some up for our new place.
Another question: Where do you ladies buy baby food? In Cayman I have no choice but the grocery store, is that where all you Canadian ladies go or London Drugs or something.
I am going out today and tonight, even though it hasn't really warmed up at all. I am so homesick for WARM and DH or I guess a WARM DH!! Poor Sophie too, I think part of the reason she is cutting her naps short is the lack of fresh air.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 07, 2005, 16:02:00 pm
I don't know what was causing Jack to wake before in the middle of the night but so far it seems to have stopped (keeping my fingers crossed that I didn't just jinx myself).
Richelle-I buy most of my baby food at either Save-On-foods or Superstore. I think they have both of those in Regina....is that where you are? Buying at London Drugs would be expensive. Superstore would for sure be the cheapest. We have the black out blind material just pinned into the wall here. Not fancy but it works. If you are a seamstress (sp?) it's cheaper to buy the material then you can make it into what ever you want (ie. color and shape). Jackson isn't very good with fingerfoods either but I keep trying. I gave him well cooked macaroni cut in half the other day. I think he got one piece out of about a hundred in his mouth :roll: . He likes arrowroots and baby mum-mums but they have sugar in them so I don't give them to him too often. I've also done shredded cheese. He usually just ends up with a fist full of it because he can't figure out how to let go of it. And of course cherrios. The dogs love when I give him fingerfoods because they get a nice snack! :D :roll: :wink:
Traci: it will get better!!!! ((((((((((HUGS))))))))))) it is so hard in the middle of the night to stick to your original plan when all you want to do is to SLLEEEEEEPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 07, 2005, 16:09:39 pm
thanks for the words of encouragement girls. I think if I'd stayed strong he wouldn have been down by 3 instead of 4:15 or so. But I totally doubt myself, think he's in pain and needs extra cuddles. Don't want to be a mean mommy when I think he really does need me :?
Andrea, there was something I came on here to tell you. hmmmm, now i can't remember :?
well, Cole had another 1.5 hour nap this morning. at least he's getting his day sleep :roll:
Post by: Colesmom on December 07, 2005, 16:39:27 pm
Bec-re: books. Coles fav book is one of those plastic bath books and he can chew on it as much as he wants. HTH
Andrea-now i remember. it was T who was paying attention now to Good Night Moon? Cole started this week as well! I don't read as much but point out things and stuff and he grabs at the book less and less. MIL was reading an einstein book when we came home the other day and it was so nice to watch him as she pointed out the animals and stuff and he just touched them with his hands :P
Post by: kate585 on December 07, 2005, 16:48:30 pm
We have blackout shades and they are a dream. We also took out Ryan's nightlight when these bizarro wakings started and that's seemed to help, too. Can't look around and not sleep when it's too dark to see!
Richelle, we buy our food at the grocery...whatever brand is on sale. Also, Ryan is doing pretty well with finger foods, but he's 6 weeks older than Sophie, so that's probably it. It hasn't been that long since he's gotten that pincher grasp going and it's a whole new world, now. I am trying to ignore the dropping thing...if he drops something once, I'll get it, but after that, I say, "I guess you didn't want your keys. Maybe you should have thought of that first." and then I smack him. No, I'm just kidding...but I did crack myself up writing that. :lol: I will give him something else or distract him...I don't want to get into a cycle of drop, pick up, drop, pick up. I'm sure I'll do it a lot as he grows up, but it seems to be working now.
Traci, you cahn do it! (Did any of you see that Adam Sandler movie where Rob Schneider says this in a Cajun accent? If not, ignore it!) I think you are right...not about you being weak (or however you put it), but about consistency. And, like Micky said, it is so hard when you are so freakin' tired you can barely stand by the crib, much less keep picking this chunker of a kid up and down.
If this helps, here you go: Ryan's sleep issues have gotten SOOO much better...but the stupid teeth I have been waiting months for are screwing it all up! :evil: Last 2 nights, he's been pretty good about going down (we're also keeping him up longer) and waking 2 times, just after the Tylenol should be wearing off (usually 4 1/2-5 hours). It takes a squirt of Orajel and a dose of Tyelenol and he's usually right back to sleep...or at least within 10 mins. I don't give him any meds. during the day, so we're not overdosing, although I don't want him to become dependent on that either. :roll: Always so much to worry about!
We had our home visitor this am, so he was up for 2.75 hrs. before am nap. :shock: It's usually 2.0-2.25, so we'll see how it goes...it's been over an hour though, so it must not have affected him too much. He also woke earlier, so he went down when he usually does. Maybe this by the clock business does work. :wink:
MUST go work on Christmas cards. (Since my home visitor was here this am, the house looks decent for a change. :) ) I have yours done and am going to the post office this afternoon. Not sure how long it will take to get to some of you from the middle of America. Buh-bye!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 07, 2005, 17:03:23 pm
Thanks, I needed that :)
More later
Hannah
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 07, 2005, 17:13:26 pm
no capilization here asiamtrying topumpwith myright hand and type with my left. oh...seeimissedafewspaces aswell. sheesh... idid hit the space bar.
okay... will wait til after pumping. Funny... I am a pretty good typer and it drives me nuts to have to type one-handed and "peck"!
Holly... lovely Christmas pictures of Brady! Congrats on the good sleeps... don't worry about the slight regression... he will get the hang of it!
Judy... forgot to comment... Woohoo on DH being home! I don't know how you people with DHs who go away for stretches at a time do it! I go just about insane by 5 pm and would really like DH to get home.
Traci... hang in there, girl! It is so very hard to stay consistent. Just think of how it will pay off later when you get to sleep, sleep, sleep! You can do it!
BTW, was ROTFLMAO at the accent! :lol:
BFs... still at 4 with a DF (or pseudo DF... I let her wake for it and if she gets up every 10 minutes for 30 min, I feed her)... I was just commenting to Hannah that I have no idea how to change to 3 milk feeds and how to work that around solids and the 4 hour thing??? What to do as they get older?? Nikki?? Bianca?? Naomi?? Judy??
Umm... baby food. Someone asked about prunes... I buy those. I couldn't figure out how to make them so they didn't taste so YUCKY! As for where I buy food... when I do, I go to Walmart. So far, I have purchased about 18 jars but have only used 2 prunes. :roll: It is super cheap there... $0.28 a jar for the 4.5 oz food and also for the juices. There is a deposit on the glass juice bottle though.
Finger foods... Arwyn can and will basically pick up anything on her high chair tray and eat it. She even tries to pick up drips!! She is getting pretty good at most anything we have tried... Cheerios, mango, orange, bits of baby mum mum, cheese. She has difficulty with the shredded cheese though. She can't get it in her mouth accurately because they are long and flexible and then they melt to her hand, etc. So... mommy feeds her cheese with chopsticks :wink: . She loves her chopsticks and will basically eat anything off the end of them.
Oh... there was something else but I forgot... baby brain is kicking in really bad over here... doesn't help that I haven't left the house for like over a month due to colds and stuff. We only go out on the weekend and even then, only on Saturday usually. I am amazed that we even got any Christmas shopping done!
Oh... I know... had a 5:45 wakeup this morning... DH usually puts her back down but today, was unsuccessful. Any hints? LOL I know this is a problem here so, I'm not holding my breath but on the off chance someone had some luck?
Post by: solnme on December 07, 2005, 18:07:45 pm
We're preparing for a trip to Seattle followed by a trip to Portland! I don;t even really celabrate Xmas but I'm still running around like crazy. How do you Moms do it who have more than one?
No More Night Wakings!!! Yay! Turns out Sol wasn't geting enough food so I added lunch. Still giving 4 feeds a day and trying to cut back on the DF. He's crawling like a mad man and is starting to look pretty skinny so I've upped his solids from 4 cubes to 5 per meal plus cereal. May have to go higher.
I've been really adventurous with his food lately. We went for Dim Sum and he ate noodles, turnip cake, steamed pork buns, congee, egg yoke and taro root. Loved every bite.
Bec- you mentioned your camping trip about 10 pages ago and I was ROLFLMAO at your discription of the critters. Dh and I were trying to imagine what a kookalooda or whatever it was looked like.
Judy - glad your DH is home. What does he do that sends him jettin around the world?
Richelle - I make most of my BB food but want to buy jars for our trips. Are there any ones I should avoid? Only tried the green beans and he ate it mixed.
Got my xmas cards and plan to send them out today WITH a picture. You guys don't know what a huge accomplishment this is for me and I really enjoyed doing it.
Great pics everyone! and I don't even want to get into the boob thing. I bought a tummy tucker yesterday! My body was nothing special before but I find myself pineing for what once was :(
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 07, 2005, 18:17:58 pm
Well not sure why, but the last few nights she's been waking at her usual time and just being soooooo loud and not wanting to feed immediately and grizzling - so I'm wondering if teeth are on the way. Fortunately she did go to sleep within an hour of me feeding her though - I left her to it, she'd just let out a little moaning on and off over an hour. :?
D loves her finger food, in fact because she's eating the same time as Nathan she gets quite snotty if there isn't something in her hand to suck on, I don't have any biscuits in the house and I haven't discovered a suitable ready-made snack...pasta is another good finger food too - it kind of got mushed, but I think some of it made it into her mouth.
Oh, can't remember who was asking, but I don't have a cookbook or anything, I just use ideas of things I've come up with for Nathan and he went through a really picky stage.
Righty-o off to get Nathan ready for pre-school and wake up Danielle since it's now 7.20.
I'm sure I'll be back later.... :)
Post by: B&BMommy on December 07, 2005, 18:19:17 pm
Judy & Richelle - thanks for the info on yougurt, any specific kind you use?
Nancy - you are not alone in the "hormone" dept, I'm right there with you, things that never would have bothered me before do now... (big hugs)
Bec - OMG your nephew saying that, lmao (sore balls) :lol:
macaire - yo baby yougurt, thanks, have to look and see if I can find that one...as for colds, we use a warm wash cloth here too, and saline drops as well.
Traci - sorry about your rough night sweetie, stay strong....i am so with you on thinking they are in pain and need extra cuddles from mommy, I don't want to be a mean mom either, so I give in thinking what if he is really in pain, and I just leave him.....i feel so bad... :cry:
about the saline drops, how do you do it...i can't seem to get them into Brady's nose,,,, hates them, crys, screams, kicks the works! :?
off for now, need to wake Brady up, PED appt today that I forgot about...my mind isn't what it used to be.... :oops: :roll: :shock:
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 07, 2005, 19:51:55 pm
Firstly, Holly I love the Christmas photos, just gorgeous.
Traci, Cole should be fine on toast, we give toast here from early on. Just make sure it's white bread. Daniel likes it with cheese on, but not marmite/vegemite like most people suggest.
We're not so good in the finger food department, but I think that's due to my lack of consistency. I kind of 'forget' to give him some. I'm getting better with the sippy cup though! :oops:
Ankie, good to hear the chopsticks work a treat. I couldn't imagine feeding some of the sloppy food Daniel has with chopsticks though.
My friend cooked me dinner last night, sausages, mashed potato and carrot and salad. I looked at it and thought that Daniel would be able to eat most of the food on the plate, not the spinach though. I was quite excited about that prospect. The dinners that DH and I cook are different, more stirfries and meals with spicy sauces, so don't think he'd do so well. Maybe we'll have to change what we eat a bit to get him used to eating our food. Or, do we just introduce that sort of food to him? Ankie, do you give Arwyn Chinese style food or more European style? I remember someone mentioning a vege korma, that sounds so adventurous! When can they start having garlic/spices etc?
Better go, this was meant to be short. Take care and better sleeps for everyone tonight.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 07, 2005, 20:33:58 pm
Not much time to write, have to get ready to go get my hair cut and do some shopping. BUT, I just had to post...Olivia just went down for nap #2. She's only been up 2 hr 15 min, and she usually goes 3 hours between naps. She had a good nap #1, too--about 1 hr 15 min. So I don't know what the deal is, anyone have any ideas? Maybe it's just a random thing, I don't know.
Talked to one of my non-BW friends this morning (she has a DS 3 wks older than Liv). It was an interesting and humorous (for me anyway) conversation. I'll have to post about that later. For now, gotta run.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 07, 2005, 20:37:21 pm
Someone was asking about dropping to 3 milk feeds a day?? Here's the routine I had for Nathan at 10mths:
6.15am wake and BF
8am breakfast
9.15am nap for 1.5hr
10.30am snack
12pm lunch
1.15pm nap for 1.5hr
2.30pm BF
3.30pm snack
5pm dinner
6.15 bath
6.145 bf
7pm bed
So it looks like I just introduced snacks in replacement of the morning milk feed. I needed to get his day feeds down by 11mths when I went back to work and my goal was to only be on 2 feeds by then. I remember it took about 3 days to drop it (or for him to forget about having it), I'd offer a snack and have to use a lot of distraction at that time - I would go down to the mall or something.
Just seeing that, reminds me to start with snacks soon for D, she checks out Nathan when he's having his, so I guess I need to figure out what she can have. I've been really slack in offering the sippy of water, so suppose I should be more vigilant there too. :roll: :oops:
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 07, 2005, 20:59:48 pm
We did tofu cubes yesterday btw and she gobbled them up.
She does well with finger foods...she picks up everything and puts it in her mouth...although sometimes she gets bored/tired/silly/adventurous(?) and puts her head down on her tray to suck the finger food up without using her hands :) Pretty funny to watch. I have been trying to get a pic of her doing it but she looks up every time.
Made another "back to work" purchase today...new lip gloss :) Ah the litle things in life...I'll probably never even have the time or the memory to actually put it on :)
Tracy. I am sending you strength for tonight. You can do it. Cole probably does want to hang out with his mommy, but he also needs to sleep. Right? It's something he needs as much as he needs food, love etc. Maybe thinking about that will help? I will be thinking about you. If you are feeling tired he must be too.
I will also probably be looking for any of you ladies on the chat tonight since dh is working late again...christmas rush and all.
OK...too funny, Sophie has a penchant for my slippers! She chews on them eeeewwwwww! She will crawl over to me and actually pull them off so that she can chew...or she just chews them while they are still on.
Time to get new slippers :)
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 07, 2005, 21:00:36 pm
Hannah
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 07, 2005, 22:43:05 pm
Richelle - will you be back in the Caymans for Christmas?? The address list we got from Traci has your address there and I wanted to send a Christmas card...or will you be in Saskatoon still?? Do you know what the postage is from Canada to Caymans?? Is it "international" = $1.45??
As far as LO's feeding themselves, we haven't given Molly much finger foods besides the Farley's biscuits, cheerios...yesterday we gave her a slice of cucumber as she was staring at ours!! I'll post pics below.
I need to get more creative with the food too.
I also buy my baby food at Walmart or Superstore. I find Shopper's Drug Mart way more. It is $0.79 a jar, at Walmart it is $0.43!! Quite a difference if you are buying a dozen or so at a time!!
Traci - poor thing!! I was really rooting for you since you said Cole had eaten so much and napped so well, I thought for sure his night would be awesome! Darn it all!
Awwwwww I feel so left out of the big nipples/breast feeding discussion. LMAO. I have exclusively bottle fed Molly as had a hard time breastfeeding with Mason and when he was about 2 I had a reduction (so, yes I can relate to the huge-boobs syndrome). I know you still can nurse after a reduction but I just chose to not even try.
Kate - I read about you "smacking" wee little Ryan and I was like "what the hell?!?" You gave me a good laugh!
Ankie - too cute about feeding Arwyn with chopsticks!! My DH would get such a kick out of that, do you have a picture?? He spent quite a few years cooking in Japan. Nope, he's not Japanese, just a guy from Vancouver who met a girl after high school...you see where this is going...ended up there for 18 months. Anyways, I'd love to see a pic if you have one!
Hannah - laughed at Sophie chewing on your slippers, Molly does the same thing!! Ewwwwww. She tries to pull them off as well or will put her head right between her legs to the ground and try and get at them while I am wearing them!! Must be the plastic/rubber bottoms?? OMG!
Post by: becca24 on December 07, 2005, 23:08:17 pm
Hannah - just on checking the thread before we go to swimming lessons. Well really I am checking to see if there are any emails from my boss or should I say ex-bitch i mean boss :twisted: So i will be around for a chat later if you want. About 1-1.30is here so not sure what time at your place
Post by: Colesmom on December 08, 2005, 00:02:02 am
thanks for the words of encouragement hannah.
As for non BWing moms. Forgot to tell you girls that there was a 5.5 month old boy at the dinner on saturday night. They left their toddler with the grandparents but brought the baby. Anyway, I asked how he slept and she said not bad. He has a good 3-4 hour stretch in the night. And otherwise he feeds 2 hours around the clock :shock: Only for 5 min. she said so "no big deal"! surprisingly he manages 2 1 hour or so naps and a few short ones...but he's only up 1 hour before going down! Ladies, it was sooooooooooo hard to bite my tongue but it was the cousin of a friend and non of my business! If she'd asked for help or said she was tired I may have offered BW as a suggestion. When I told DH he was proud of me for keeping quiet.
anyhoo, that's all i wanted to say for now. Cole took 40 min. to go down just now. No crying really, just a lot of standing up and not wanting to sleep. A time ended at 4:20. Wonder if it's time to up A time? He had 1.5 and 1.25 hour naps today.
okay, now i'm gone. ttfn
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 08, 2005, 00:08:08 am
Bec I was just asking if anyone was chatting at the regular Wed. chat time...will you be there?
tmi warning...
ever since I had Sophie, I have been a major puker. I puke at just about anything. Before I had Sophie I never puked. I would rather do just about anything than puke. And funny enough I only puked once while pg.
Could this be hormonal?
Sophie had huge issues going down for her second nap. I thought I was being all smart waiting until 1:30pm to put her down (after a little over 3 hours of A time) but she just crawled around and around her crib. I did pu/pd or about 1 hour...She finally hit her head on the bars enough times and was overtired enough that she started wailing so I went in and picked her up. Well, for some reason my picking her up coincided with a major dizzy spell which ended in a puking spell.
So of course I am trying to do EVERYTHING before tomorrow so I ahve the vaccum out, the carpet steam cleaner out etc, etc...and I am puking and trying to stop Sophie from eating the electrical cords etc....it wzs a total nightmare.
So I finally stop puking long enough to make her a bottle (she had been trying to sleep for so long it was now E time) which she didn't want, and then, I started puking again! Thankfully this time we were downstairs in the clean rooms so I didn't have to redirect her mid pukes.
I finally stop (yup-stop puking) and she is now SUPER over tired...it is now 3:30 2 hours past when I put her down orginally and 1 hour past her 4 hour easy eat time. I put her back in her crib, clean myself up adn she finally goes to sleep. WTF????
So she's been asleep for anout 30 minutes. I am definately going to wake her by 5 if she doesn't wake up. I'll give her dinner then go for the regular 6:30 bedtime. I guess? Any other suggestions?
Of course this WOULD happen the day before work :)
Oh well. I am now going to simply relax and do nothing except check this thread. No more cleaning, puking or pu/pd. I am done! :)
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 08, 2005, 00:11:49 am
Post by: Judy on December 08, 2005, 00:15:20 am
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if he drops something once, I'll get it, but after that, I say, "I guess you didn't want your keys. Maybe you should have thought of that first." and then I smack him. No, I'm just kidding
Kate I was busting a gutt when I read this!!! :)
Richelle ok I've not wanted to admit to being in the dark on where you are and why. I remember you were packing up and selling but what's the scoop (again, sorry :oops:) It throws me off every time I read about how cold it is and then see it says Cayman Islands under your username :)
Ankie I eventually go to 3 milk feeds by just offering them at meal times. With Zoe it was breakfast, lunch and then bedtime at 7pm rather than dinner. With Sarah we much sooner moved it to dinner with no bottle at bedtime because Zoe started to think it would be a good idea to reinstate a bedtime bottle for her. Sarah never flinched on it. She was well over a year before we did the last one at supper. Can't remember when we moved to just three bottles...... at some point though I just dropped the 3pm bottle. I can look it up in my baby book later though (nursing right now)
Roz my dh is a mechanical design engineer. Designs special purpose machines for an automotive company (Siemens). He doesn't really travel all that often... he had a project in Mexico when Zoe was a baby and before that had him travelling a lot for a couple years but really nothing since then until now. We had some troubles in my pregnancy with Sarah early on... then she was very sick in hospital for 3weeks at 4months then I was pregnant with the twins so his boss has been really good about keeping him home. :) So one of his current projects required a machine he could have had built out of the states but his boss wanted the one from Italy instead - so that's why he went there.
Holly as for yogurt I use a plain high fat yogurt - it's green and white the container - I'd just look for anything plain with a really high MF % (like 3+ or 5 if you can find it)
Bread/toast - Hayley why white bread? I always thought it should be whole wheat breat - less gummy therefore less likely to get stuck. And to toast it at least a bit to make it more rough and less gummy again.
Zoe didn't cut her first tooth till 9months and then only had two till after a year. She ate lots of stuff just fine - just gummed it up good.
Hannah that seems like a lot of puking... have you asked the dr. about it?
And as for hormones and overreacting.... HA!!!! Count me in.
Post by: Colesmom on December 08, 2005, 00:56:22 am
Post by: Judy on December 08, 2005, 01:43:23 am
Post by: Erin M on December 08, 2005, 03:25:12 am
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I worked with a guy once who told me that Saskatchewan was where you could watch your dog run away for two days!!LMAO Judy....that struck me as very funny....and Kate, your comment about smacking Ryan too.
Ladies, I SO hear you about the headlights -- I may never be able to wear a non-padded bra again....though I'm still BF 2x a day - and bottle feeding 2x a day as well - though Katie has less and less interest in her lunchtime bottle, can hardly get her to take any of it....guessing that will be the first to go. I do think my boobs have shrunk a bit since going to the 2 BFs per day.
Michelle - love the pictures, Molly is adorable.
Holly - lovely pics, can't remember if I mentioned it before.
Very interesting to hear the conversation about finger foods - Katie has had Cheerios, teething biscuits, Gerber fruit puffs, bread crusts, peas, banana, crackers, and a tortilla chip the other day! I would like to start giving her whatever we're having, but we've been eating like crap lately so I'm avoiding it at the moment.
Hannah - Hope your puking goes away - do you think it's just nerves from going back to work? Emotions do some crazy things. If it doesn't stop soon, I would definitely get it checked out. Is tomorrow the day or is it next week? Will be thinking of you headed back to work.
Ankie - I second the notion of seeing you feeding Arwyn from chopsticks.
Traci - best of luck in the middle of the night. Stay strong!
Kate - glad to hear that all is well with the sleeping. Katie is getting a few teeth these days, so she's been up roughly once a night for the past few nights. Not a big deal. We do the Orajel/Tylenol as well and she's generally back to sleep. Fingers crossed that trend continues.
Anyway, haven't done the cards yet - am just getting the proofs for our pictures, and then I have to get copies, so I apologize in advance for the fact that they're probably going to get to you folks overseas a bit late. Once I get the pictures, they'll be on their way though!
Have good nights/days everyone!
Post by: james030405 on December 08, 2005, 03:49:54 am
we do a lot of finger foods - bits of dirt off the floor, tinsel of the christmas tree, dog biscuits, crumbs...........I could go on :lol: :lol: :lol: No really, I made eggy bread today for lunch and cut them into "fingers"and James loved these, otherwise I use things like cucumber, sweet potato chips, toast... really anything that he eats. I made the meatballs of the recipe page and I usually cook a couple extra and he uses these as finger foods as well. cheese is another good one, or pieces of fruite ie watermelon, or any type of melon, apple, pears etc.
Well, I thought I had the perfect routine and it had been working brilliantly for the last 2 weeks and then he changes everything :? I don't know if it is the hot whether or not, but he cannot stay awake as long as usual and he is up earlier too. 5am IS JUST DOWN RIGHT RIDICULOUS!!!! :x Who in their right mind would voluntarily get up this early. LOL :lol: :lol:
In regards to saying "NO", how do you do it without laughing afterwards? I am doing this with James and the Christmas tree and he just looks up at you andlaughs ( :lol: ) and it is so hard not to laugh back!
Michelleand Holly - great pictures.
Tracy: I don't knowif this is possible (or if it has been mentioned before) but can DH get up in thenight instead of you? That way you don't have to feel like you have to feed. :oops: Sorry if this has already been suggested.
Hope everyone else has better days/nights.
Chat soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 08, 2005, 05:22:24 am
Judy, not sure about why white bread. Just what I was told by a nurse.
Lisa, I totally understand how AWFUL 5am is. I see it on my clock all too often. He's getting better and learning that mummy doesn't get up to him at 5am. Doesn't always work though.
Gotta go and get ready. DH and I are off to the movies tonight to see the opening night of "Chronicles of Narnia" he won tickets to the opening so even better. Unfortunately it's in Palmerston North not THE big opening in Auckland with the red carpet. Oh well, it's the movie that matters.
Ta ta!!!! :D
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 08, 2005, 06:15:38 am
So here's my non-BW story: I was talking to a friend this morning. She has a DS 3 wks older than Liv. She asked if we were going to a certain Christmas program and I said we'd like to, but it starts at Olivia's bedtime, so we won't be going. She said, "I wish [DS] would go to bed earlier." (This is the same girl who asked me once, "Do you put Olivia to bed that early, or does she just go?"....WHAT?!?!?)
Come to find out, her DS takes a nap around 6:30 or 7:00 p.m., then is up until 10 or 11!! He's still waking 2-3 times a night and eating. She said he wakes up about 7:30 or 8:00 a.m. but she feeds him and rocks him back to sleep because she doesn't want to get up then. So they don't start their day until about 10 or 11. And he rarely takes good naps. She said he'll "only sleep good if you're holding him." For example, her sister was over the other day and they were watching a movie and he fell asleep for 2 hours on her sis! I just thought, yeah cause he's EXHAUSTED!!!! I bit my tongue as long as I could, then she said, "I just don't think I've done a good job of getting him on a routine." (Duh!!) So I tried to suggest BW by telling her how much it helped me and that I'd read other stuff, etc. I was trying so hard to just be helpful and not "preach" at her. (I even told her about the site and how awesome you guys are!) She said she had read BabyWise and she said, "I just didn't agree with telling [DS], it's 10:00 now, so you're hungry...how am I supposed to know when he's hungry? He knows when he's hungry." I tried to "sell" BW to her without coming off too strong, and I finally just said, "It helped me a lot, so if it sounds like something you'd be interested in, you should check it out. Hopefully, it will help you, but ultimately, you're the mom, so you have to decide what works for you guys."
She seemed to appreciate that statement. But what I really wanted to say was, "Do you have any idea what you're doing to your son? And do you know that your life is going to be this chaotic until he goes to school unless you get some sort of routine down!?!?! What is wrong with you!??!" But I didn't. :) So, hopefully she's still my friend. It's just so hard to talk about LOs with non-BW moms because their whole mindset is completely different! When I got off the phone I was torn between feeling so bad for her and being completely frustrated that she was doing this!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 08, 2005, 06:17:46 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 08, 2005, 06:17:59 am
D's turning into Miss Grumpy lately - can't put my finger on it, no bulging gums although I'm sure they could be painful without teeth just ready to pop? :? Maybe too much new food? She doesn't seem to be having any problems with pooing though...
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 08, 2005, 06:24:30 am
Post by: Judy on December 08, 2005, 13:40:46 pm
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 08, 2005, 13:54:21 pm
Carter is definitely getting another tooth ... he is soooo cranky. He basically fusses ALL day! It looks like his upper left tooth as the gums are red and bulgy!! He is still sleeping through the night but I am preparing myself.
I have my work Christmas party tomorrow night and I finally found a babysitter. A friend of mine (who is a BW mom and has a 10month old) offered to watch him. I am always wary of leaving him with someone because no one can put him to sleep besides me (not even DH). That being said, she did watch him a while back when I went to a concert and she actually got him to sleep. She had to use a soother which I don't usually give him but I was very surprised! She also had to use his favorite Sherly Crow song too ...She thought I was nuts when I handed her the CD as I was leaving. I told her "Just in case ..." I went looking for something to wear yesterday and I am having the hardest time!!! Everything fits too weird across the chest :roll: :( I am not used to the added ummm ... fullness :shock: !!!! So, anyway I have to go back tonight to pick something out. I still have to do Christmas cards for everyone at work and buy the Secret Santa gift. I am so far behind!! We always have to buy a $25 gift for someone whos name we draw plus give $15 for a gift for the boss and $10 for this elderly lady who comes in and helps all the time for free ... that's $50 for work alone!! Does this seem like too much to any one else??? Our boss is so cheap, he pays us horribly. Plus, because I am on maternity leave I won't even be getting a nice Christmas bonus like everyone else. I would just stay home but I would be expected to contribute the money anyway. The dinner is at the Yacht club though (cheapest thing on the menu is like $40) so I figured why not??!! :)
On a positive note, DH finally got home from Georgia to help out! I just get so drained when I am all by myself. I can't imagine having more than one baby!
As for feeds, we are still on 4 bf's a day plus 3 meals and then cereal before bed.
Hannah: I know what you mean abou the slippers! Carter also loves to chew on his own shoes. He gets so excited when he sees me get out his Robeez because as I soon as I put them on, he takes them off to chew. Check out the picture!!!
Richelle: I get baby food at Zehrs (grocery store) or Walmart. I make most of my own but when I have to buy some (mainly prunes) that is where I go. I do have the darkening blinds in Carter's room. He sleeps much better with them. As for finger foods and self feeding ... about all Carter can maage is an arrowroot cookie!!! He is not so good about finger foods and I haven't been offering very many. ALot of the finger foods that I want to give have either milk or egg in them which he is allergic too :(
Traci: Stay strong!! You can do it (LOL - Adam Sandler movie)!!!!
****** Don't mind the goofy outfit in the picture! MIL knit it and called to ask why she didn't have any pictures of him in it :shock: :roll: :shock:
Can you tell why????? I know, I know ... he looks pretty funny, but cute!!
So we took a picture to send her! He just had to grab his Robeez and start eating it!!!
Post by: Erin M on December 08, 2005, 14:54:58 pm
Nancy - YIKES for your friend. You really sound like you did a good job of not being judgemental/preachy. Maybe she'll take you advice and figure it out.
Crooked teeth - Katie's are crooked, but then again, so are mine (despite having braces twice) and so are DH's, so I wasn't really expecting much there. I think I'd be surprised if they were straight.
Bec - lovely pics - your possums look nothing like our possums here. Ours look more like giant rats (though they're relatively rare in NJ, when I lived in the South they were everywhere!).
Nikki - It's funny, I was reading something the other day that said that you should give your kids whole grain so they don't get used to white bread too early on. Hope you find out what's bothering Miss Grumpypants.
Lisa - Katie's idea of "finger food" is very similar to James'. I'm getting tired of fishing things out of her mouth.
Katie is very snotty today - hope she's not getting sick AGAIN. The perils of daycare I guess, even if it is only twice a week. At least she'll have one strong immune system by the time she gets to school (right?....please tell me there's some positive to all this).
Bye for now!
Post by: Judy on December 08, 2005, 15:08:32 pm
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 08, 2005, 15:24:38 pm
Cathy - love the outfit!! ROFLMAO!! Poor little guy! Molly loves the Robeez too. We spend $30 a pair and she rips them off her feet only to chew on them. Sheesh! I'll try to post one of her going to town on hers too!
And YaY for DH getting home and being able to give you a break! :lol:
Bec - those possums are too adorable! Their eyes are mesmerizing. Love the camping pics too, can't see your LO too closely though. :(
Well, we are off to Victoria, BC today. It's only about 1.5 hour flight so am not too worried. We leave at 5 pm though and if I can't get Molly to at least catch a catnap on the way to the airport...eeeeeeeek!! Oh well, will try not to worry about it and just go with the flow. We have taken her to Victoria once (DH's parents are there) but he was along, this time it's just me. Hopefully they can give me an empty seat beside if the plane isn't full. Please send some good flight vibes our way!!! On a positive note, last time we went Molly slept wonderfully the entire time we were there. Must have been the ocean air?? Difference in sea level or something??
I hope to keep up on this thread while I'm away but HUGS to everyone and thanks for being here!!
P.S. Got my Christmas cards done last night/this morning. I feel so proud! :roll:
Post by: Richelle on December 08, 2005, 15:49:44 pm
Michelle - Molly is adorable! The postage to Cayman is international and I will be there for Christmas. A nice relaxing Christmas just DH, Sophie and I! :wink: ~~~~~~good flight vibes~~~~~~
Judy - Technically it takes 3 days to watch your dog run away. :wink: and thanks to Traci for clearing up any and all geographical confusions!
Kate - ROTFLMAO! You are toooo funny. My dh makes comments like that to random people, we get some pretty hilarious reactions.
Cathy - LOVE LOVE LOVE the outfit :wink: , gotta love those gifts :roll: ! Sophie is obsessed with chewing on her Robeez as well.
So - I still have a week left here and I am going nuts. This house can be chaos sometimes ( I have a 17 year old brother and parents who are involved in and do way too much) and we are runnning a car short and it is freezing and I am stuck in this house and blah blah blah......
All that talk my last post about Sophie and not feeding herself, well after I posted I made her lunch no purees. Eggy Bread, scrambled egg, cheese sticks & mandarin orange. She picked up everything herself and fed herself :roll: . I helped only a little, she loved it - ate tonnes and less than half was on the floor and /or her head (she is forever putting stuff on her head). This girl LOVES the cheese sticks and mandarin orange, which i am glad about so I can substitute this as a snack as opposed to a biscuit.
i went out with some friends last night and it was fun catching up but I stayed out to late *insert yawning emotiocon here* so am going to have a nap while she does.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 08, 2005, 15:53:23 pm
Anywho, Carcheezy just got up after 45 min nap (argh :evil: ) so I guess I'd better go get him.
Have a great day ladies!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 08, 2005, 17:33:09 pm
CATHY--great picture! I love the outfit! We have some of those, too. I usually just put Liv in it one day when we're home all day and take pics to send to whoever gave us the outfit. That way everyone is happy.
Have a great one, girls! Off to snuggle with my LO.
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 08, 2005, 17:43:59 pm
sorry to "bud" in...
I did however go back and peek at Kates joke about little butt smacking... I almost died laughing :lol: ... reminded me of what I said one day and I think I almost killed off an old bird at the mall who heard me... (it was between Makaylee and I, not intended for the old lady's ears so it was her own fault he she suffered any long term effects :wink: )
We were heading into the mall doors and Maky had made herself gag (you know fingers so far down the throat they almost poke out their butt).. well I calmly said to Maky "don't you go dyin' on me today we have a lot of Christmas shopping to do..." (I giggled to myself my I don't think ol g-ma saw me) This lady gave me the most horrible look :shock: ... I just shrugged my shoulders and said "well it's true we have a busy day!?" she just went "humffff" and shuffled away.
Oh man I smiled for hours thinking about what she must have thought, and who the heck she was going to tell it too!!! :lol: :lol:
Well the girls are finishing up their 2nd colds in 4 weeks.
Makaylee is deciding she only needs one nap a day :shock: :x - she is a happy pappy when she is up for 5 hours - so I cant complain. Mais still needs 2 naps. no alone time for mummy I guess.
Makaylee was up screaming bloody murder twice last night??? no idea what the heck is going on... back teeth possibly?? anyone know what comes after the first 6 teeth... 4 top 2 bottoms, then what? She screamed like she was dying-really I was scared because she NEVER wakes up and hasnt for months-it's always Mais. Don't know what it is, hope it doesnt happen again tonight.
Micky- great cards- you keener!! you made them didn't you??? I was going to make my cards but I had 57 to send out and I really don't think most of my relates would appreciate the hard work!!
Anyone wanna here a fun story of Micky and I??? Okay well your going too!!
We have actually met before when our babes were getting their shots! We talked and everything. Dh and I left the clinic and we couldn't stop talking about how absolutely gorgeous Jackson is!! Weird- small small world heh!!
OKay my girls are NOT napping and I have to go get them..
SO SORRY THIS IS SOOO LONG- it's been a while!!
jods
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 08, 2005, 17:47:17 pm
----good plane vibes------- sending them your way!!
jods
Post by: Colesmom on December 08, 2005, 17:59:21 pm
Cathy-OMG...soo adorable. a little "carcheezy" but hey, what do you expect in a little knit outfit. I have MY own little pink outfit that my grandmother knit. so hoping to have a girl next to put her in it :D
Lisa-DH just started settling Cole at night and the next day he had a sore back, aching tummy and a cold. So he's getting a few days rest. He has a low back issue so he won't be able help too often with all the leaning over but thanks for the suggestion anyway. Oh-and I hear you on the 5am thing. but really, it could be worse, just keep reading :wink: and btw, don't worry about venting even though your situation doesn't seem "as bad" as some of us. As Judy and Holly have both said to me when I've made similar comments, we all have our own realities and are thrown off when they change (or similar such statements)
Nancy-sounds like a lovely day, enjoy! And good for you for not pushing BW too much. IF they ask then I offer, otherwise you just have to bite your tongue. Just think how you'd feel if someone offered unsolicited advice, regardless how great it might be!
Love all the pics with the Robeez! Cole will suck on his until I get them on his feet. If his socks are thin enough he can't get them off. Isn't that supposed to be the advantage of Robeez is that the los aren't supposed to be able to pull them off???
Michelle-good luck with the flight and have a great time.
Nikki-hope you can figure out Ds grumpiness. Also, could you please PM me the recipe for that gluten free cake you made? We're having a christmas open house next weekend and a girlfriend and her son are allergic to wheat. Thanks!
Well-our night. :roll: Great sleep from 6:50pm-1am. Didn't wake to feed at his normal time so I did DF at 10:40. Not sure if I should have just left him or not :?: Then I think I got 45 min. sleep sometime between 1 and 5 but I'm not sure. Gave advil at 1am thinking it would work-nope. Fed at 3:30, didn't help. Fed at 4:45, finally slept 5-7, which of course has thrown our whole day off so now bed won't be until 7. :roll: So much for my resolve, i really just needed to sleep! And he wasn't crying hard or anything again, just couldn't sleep. would try and try and try to sleep but just kept getting up. Oval finally seemed to help-didn't give it until just before 4:45 feed though. i got to thinking in the middle of the night that I didn't drink much water yesterday, and I ate spinach a couple days in a row. He had hard poops this morning so I am guzzling water and told DH no more spinach. He said "it's good for you" and I said, "it's not good for cole"...boy, did that take restraint :!: :twisted:
okay, i got my US and international cards done so hopefully off to the post office today to send them off. Maybe a good excuse to get out in the fresh air, it's about a 15 minute walk away.
I have to admit-I don't like 6am waking...but i do like 6pm bed. My day seems like it will be soooo long with him up until 7 today. DH never gets home before 7:10 so it's always bedtime routine by myself.
okay ladies-have a good one
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 08, 2005, 18:03:39 pm
Hannah... by the time you read this, you would have finished your first day at work. I am sure everything went well for you as you were so sell prepared!
Oh... price difference of baby food in the Walmarts across Canada? Somebody is paying $0.43? I pay $0.28 and why is there a price difference like that? Maybe they adjust their prices to match the demographics? What's up with that?
I will get DH to take a picture of me feeding Arwyn with her chopsticks. Actually, she will eat anything off of my chopsticks or her chopsticks but hers are narrower and she doesn't have to open her mouth as wide. BTW, does anybody else have a lo who barely opens the mouth to eat? Arwyn does that and it drives me bonkers... it pushes the food to the end of the spoon and she hardly gets any.
Also... she is not eating very much... nowhere near what Sol or Cole is able to do. She is just not interested and throws a hairy fit if I try to continue. Should I be worried? Perhaps she is not a big eater? How do I know?
WARNING... LONG VENT!
Okay... non-BW friend... well... she claims to have read the book but ??? So, she visits one day when she was pg. I have Arywn on her BW routine and my friend was here through 2 naps (basically, all day). I pu/pd and pat/shush Arwyn into a long nap each time. I tell her all about how great it has worked for us, she sleeps on her own from awake, in her own crib, sleeps through the night, no letting her cry, etc. I show her the website, tout the wonderful support I get, etc. etc. etc. She is the kind that takes a WEE BIT OF INFORMATION and goes with it and I know that she only read the intro part about EASY in the first book as I was pat/shushing.
SO... she has her baby... he is obviously an angel baby and falls into routine on his own. Everything is great for the first while... then she comes to visit at 10 weeks and proudly tells me she started sleep training at 8 weeks. (This is after confirming that I didn't start until 11 weeks... about 3 times. WTF? This isn't a competition.) She tells me she put her DS down in his crib and leaves. He started crying and she left him. According to her, the crying gets so bad she has to TURN OFF THE SOUND TO THE MONITOR and watch the lights only. He finally stops after 20 minutes!
I couldn't bite my tongue and comment, "Wow, that is so not BW!" to which she replies, "Oh, I don't care about that! But listen to this... he falls asleep on his own now!" Apparently, she let him CIO for all his naps one day and the next day, he slept on his own. Lately, her DS has been taking short naps when he is at home. So, to solve her problem, she takes him out and schleps him everywhere and claims he sleeps much better when he is out. He is now almost 14 weeks old. I would like to see what he is doing in about 2 months for naps! And what techniques my dear friend will try to correct them (or, maybe she won't need to?).
She is a very good friend of mine (we've been friends since 5 years old)and it breaks my heart that her little one had to cry it out at 8 weeks. He was such a wee one then. I mean, I don't believe in CIO at any age but 8 weeks is so very little. I told DH but all he said was, "Well, not our problem. We can't let Arwyn CIO, she'll just keep crying." (insert kiss my DH emoticon here). Whew... long vent sorry. Thanks ladies, I needed to get that out.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 08, 2005, 18:09:20 pm
Update on the cards... awaiting Santa picture reprints. I don't like to print photos on the printer. I will pick up the proof on Friday and get them reprinted right away. Hopefully, they won't be long and I can get the cards off next week. Sorry to those overseas... they will be late!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 08, 2005, 18:43:33 pm
Well after a very logn day and a half of the stomach flu for both DH and I and here I am reading through 6 pages of posts while I still haven't changed out of my clothes, brushed my teeth or washed the dirty sheets from our middle of the night puke session!!! Okay, I know that was way too much information! :lol: But seriously, I got on and just couldn't stop reading.
So I have missed you all and it has only been one day!
Kate-soooo funny about the smacking comment and Jody too! don't go dying on me :lol:
Hannah-here's to hoping your day went well. I am thinking of you!
Nancy-It is SOOO hard to sit back and watch how people raise their kids with no routine I know. And it is so hard not to be judgemental, I have to tell myself all the time. Do remember that I am in a moms group with 5 other ladies who are on absulutely no routine at all and I have tried to inform them, but no such luck. One said to me "It is not unbearable yet, when it becomes unberable I will do soemthing about it." ??? By that time she'll be 9-12 months and who knows how in the heck you will be able to get things sorted out! Oh well.
Trac-yes, it was T that was starting to recognize Goodnight Moon and she did it again last night. It is too cute! BTW, stay strong girl. Remember that now is about the time they start to realize the effect they have on us so can manipulate...I know it is so hard to thinkof these cute little things doing such a thing but they are smarter than we give them credit for sometimes I think. YOU CAHN DO IT!!! (yes, Kate I saw the movie) :lol:
yogurt-I give yo baby when I am feeling lazy or plain full fat with a apple cube mixed inwhen I am not. The milk thing being ok has something to do with the way it is broken down when cooked so okay for the tummies versus regular milk still being too harsh I think?
Can't remember waht else...sorry!
Okay, think I may have soem things figured out about the naps and have a great consult written up from the other nap moderator that I will post later...seems to be helping.
Gotta go brush these teeth, I cacn't stand myself anymore!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 08, 2005, 18:50:29 pm
Also, Molly, Holly, and Bec, great pics!!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 08, 2005, 19:00:34 pm
...brushing your puked covered teeth!
...washing your puke stained sheets!
...showering or eating breakfast.
continue on ladies!
interested to see the nap info. Cole wouldn't go down just now so we stared out the window for 10 minutes. I didn't say or do anything, then walked upstairs, put him down and voila, asleep :D
Post by: Colesmom on December 08, 2005, 19:01:29 pm
okay, as I said above...i MUST go shower.
Post by: kate585 on December 08, 2005, 20:25:57 pm
Hannah: Big (((hugs))) to you. You DID it!!! Can't wait to hear all about your first day back!
Andrea: WOW! So beautiful and different from anything I've seen out there. You're going to make a killing! Get Well Soon!!!
Crud...see, that's all I can remember. What is wrong with me?
Oh, yeah! Traci: Sorry for the rough night. It's almost more frustrating when they don't cry, isn't it? Good luck tonight!
Ankie: Good restraint...it's so hard to NOT be preachy, but you did a great job of keeping it in.
Nancy, we are having a snow day here too...well, we are only a few hours apart, so I guess that's pretty obvious to you! :oops: Ryan looked so adorable staring at the snow. He was jumping up and down on the couch. I took some pictures that I'll put on later. Cute! Cute! Cute!
Our night was sooooo much better. Each day is getting better, thank God! I gave him Baby Advil at 7:30, so figured I'd only have one night waking that way (as opposed to 2 with Tylenol). He woke at 11:18, so too soon for more meds. I just went in, gave him a long hug while he was staning in the crib, then put him back down. He rolled over and went back to sleep! :shock: I was back in bed at 11:22! We didn't hear from him again unitl 6:40. :shock: :shock: So, good night, but only a 45 min. am nap, but we're almost at a 2 hour pm nap, so who knows? This kid is a bit nutty, that's for sure!
Oh, yeah! I sent out our cards yesterday!!! (Well, yours anyway. We have about 120 to send, so they go out in shifts and you all were first! I am going to monitor to see who sends us one and cut down for next year...I'm too tired for this!) I can't wait to start getting some from my international friends.
Later, girls!
P.S. After re-reading this, I realize I have a serious addiction to exclamation points. :oops: I'll work on it! (D'oh!)
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 08, 2005, 20:36:02 pm
Quickly, Traci, I will PM you a recipe, it was for chocolate brownies, is that ok?
Andrea, LOVE the clothes, very groovy.
Very cute pics everyone, including the wee knitwear (I have gotten SOOOO much knitwear from my grandmother and it's about 2yrs too big and she's been complaining to my mum why the kids don't wear it!). It's not like I can even take them around wearing it since the seasons totally don't match, I think she thinks that babies need to be wrapped so warm all the time. Then when they do fit something she's forgotten she's given it to them. Bless her. :)
Bec, the picture of the possums reminded me of one lady off a pregnancy forum saying her new pregnant nipples looked like possum noses!! LMAO
I too struggle with other mums who say they're leaving their babies to CIO (mainly off another forum I visit rather than IRL), esp when they say how proud they are that they've gotten "tough" and can now leave them to cry (at all of 3-4 wks) - I ususally come back with "don't feel like you need to get tough and leave them to cry, I really like the BW method because it means you don't need to do that." It kind of gives them the benefit of the doubt that they are really softies and they feel they need to give in to what the rest of society is telling them and it's giving them permission to be soft. Although I know that that's not how they have meant the comment. :wink:
OK, will check in later, we have playgroup this morning.
Post by: kate585 on December 08, 2005, 20:38:49 pm
Hayley, can you see Ryan's pj's? They say, "A Little Bear Bum" and I think of you and Daniel whenver he wears them. He has a matching cap, too (like old timey pj's, I think).
Ryan's grandma bought these overalls while I was pg and we didn't know if it was a boy or girl. They didn't seem so male until we put them on him. :) (Cathy, not trying to compare mil outfits. You would clearly win that one. :lol: )
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 08, 2005, 21:40:00 pm
Too cute pictures, Kate! Isn't it so adorable when the lo notices something out the window? And the pj bum is positively "smackable"! :wink: and 120 Christmas cards? How do you keep up? If that were me, I would have to start November 1st!
Traci... keep at the night wakings! About naps, are you watching cues or the clock? I have noticed that Arwyn conforms to the clock, almost no matter what time she gets up in the morning or from her last nap. Worth a try?
Cathy... :lol: it is cute though, in a very loving, MIL-made way.
Nikki... thanks for that comment... am storing it in my "tactful box" as I have a tendency to stick my foot in my mouth!
Well... since we are talking about outfits, I have an abundance of asian knock-off-y type stuff that my mother bought from Hong Kong. :roll: She keeps asking why Arwyn is never wearing some of that stuff. I keep telling her the clothes are too big. :oops: I am hoping she will forget.
Kate... I have an addition to the ellipse (...) and I can't stop it. I think it is because emotions are so hard to convey in print??
Post by: Erin M on December 08, 2005, 22:15:51 pm
Michelle - hope the flight went well - and thanks for the reassurance about day care - she hasn't even been there two months yet, so I guess her immune system is still adjusting -- DH and I went to Victoria on our honeymoon (and Seattle and Vancouver) - lovely place
Ankie - SO hard to bite your tongue at the mom letting her tiny LO CIO like that...I for one couldn't handle that. When Katie was tiny, DH would say, just wait 5 minutes before you get her when she cried (wihch was quite a bit at first) - I usually lasted about 1.5 minutes if that, just didn't feel comfortable.
Andrea - hope you are feeling better - love the outfit, can't wait to see more.
Katie is sleeping - it's 5:15! We were at the mall all afternoon, so no naps happening there. Had to put her down for some sort of sleep or she's just too much to deal with at bedtime.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 08, 2005, 23:45:15 pm
Yes, I did make the cards but .....so far you guys are the only people getting cards from us this year! :) So I don't think I'm too much of a keener....only 19 cards vs. 120!!! :shock:
Bec.-love the pic!!!! Man that girls got a big mouth!! :shock: :lol: JK
Andrea-love the outfit! i hope you are feeling better soon. My sis has the stomach flu too---maybe its going around Cali?? hopefully Taylor doesn't get it too! :(
kate -I love the pics of Ryan-too cute. I love his little bear bum!
Michelle-I hope you have a good trip. Very brave to visit the IL's by yourself. I would never attempt that!! :shock: (I think you said IL's if I remember correctly :roll: )
Traci---I had a comment to say to you but I can't remember anymore! Swiss cheese for a brain! :lol: :roll:
Jackson has learned to blow bubbles in his juice. Too funny!!! He starts humming before the straw is even in his mouth! :roll: :D
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 09, 2005, 00:03:27 am
Had a great first day.
Loved reading all of your posts today, loved the pics...laughed out loud at soooo many things. OMG. Just too funny.
Can't wait to chat tomorrow.
Don't know if I'll check back tonight or not.
DH sent flowers and chocolates :shock: to me at work today...so sweet so I definately want to give him some attention tonight. He has been wonderful with the transition.
Talk to you soon.
Hannah
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 09, 2005, 00:26:49 am
Andrea, cute outfits, very original. You must be getting close to launching, how exciting.
Bec, I love it. Isn't it funny when they discover the camera. :lol:
Quick update here, as I need to make DH coffee (he made lunch). Daniel slept from 7-7! Yay! He grumbled/called out in his sleep a few times but when I went to him he was asleep. I think he was too hot. So less clothes again for him tonight. I first heard him at 7.15am but think he was awake before that. We had problems getting him to sleep for his first nap. Ended up being awake 4 hours. I think somehow we missed the 'window', but the 'blinds' were closed on both of us so didn't get him down at the right time. I ended up giving him his bottle and he then went off to sleep. He was close on 4 hours since his last. He's now been asleep 2h 20m. I think part of the problem is because he slept thru the night for 12 hours he wasn't tired when his body normally wants to go to sleep between 8.30-9am, and then he just couldn't figure it out. Also, I'd left him with DH while I went to my friends for coffee and he may not be used to DH putting him down as it's been a couple of weeks. Anyway, I'm sure we'll get thru the day fine, just may need a buggy walk thisafternoon for another short nap.
He's skipped his normal lunch time, so I'll give him that when he wakes. Mmmm very strange day it will be for Daniel.
We saw THe Chronicles of Narnia - The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe last night. Really good. I wouldn't say it's a kids movie as there's a couple of big fight scenes it it. Great scenery and costumes. For those of you who don't know it's by a NZ director in conjunction with Disney Studios. And filmed in NZ. One of the scenes was filmed in one of the airforce hangars where we used to live. Anyway, well worth the viewing I thought.
Gotta go, as DH has just let me know the jugs boiled.... mmmmmm I think he really wants his coffee!!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 09, 2005, 00:50:46 am
Kate-congrats on the sleep, will try to remember you as inspiration tonight sometime around 2am. and love the pics, the bear bum is so cute :D
Ankie-so strong you are not saying anything. CIO on a baby so tiny. that makes me very sad :oops:
Ankie-maybe I'll have to look at the clock closer. I am truly confused now. For his last A time the other day he fell asleep at 3.45 A and it was 5:30...the last couple days he hasn't gone down until 4:20 A. Wonder if he's way overtired at that point :roll: I just don't know what to do really.
Hannah-how lovely about the flowers and chocolates. so happy it went well for you.
For Micky and Lisa-do you guys use different sippy cups for water, juice, milk...or the same one for all three? Just curious as I tried to trick Cole today into taking formula from his sippy. He took about 1 oz before he realized then was having none of it. Might try breast milk tomorrow if i can get enough pumped.
naps today were 1:15 and 45 min. figured the 45 was okay as it put us on track for 6:30 bed and 4 hour A time. He didn't go down until 7:00. again, 12 hours after waking. I'm not sure what to make of it. Maybe he needs to go down earlier...might be overtired. He's all over the place this kid.
Anyway, after the last couple of nights I figure it can't get any worse. Going to try not feeding him at all again. Not sure how long he would have gone last night if I didn't do a DF at 10:40. So, you heard it here. I think DH is feeling better too, so he can help, if not at night then at least in the am so I can sleep.
gotta run and have dinner now.
ttfn
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 09, 2005, 02:39:14 am
ANKIE--I know how frustrating it is to watch a friend put their child through that. It's so hard to not jump in and say something. I think you did great! I agree with NIKKI that so many people think they're SUPPOSED to let babies CIO. I was reading "What to Expect the First Year" and I was surprised that they advocate CIO. It actually said, "It will be hard at first for you to let your baby cry, but he/she will eventually go to sleep." I couldn't believe it!!!!
Kate--cute pics! Did your snow last? Ours is starting to melt already.
Hannah--congrats on your first day at work, and way to go to DH for remembering to treat you extra special on your day!!!
I know there's been some discussion on how many feeds you're still doing. We're at 5 now, with the DF, but we're in the process of dropping that. Within a week or so, we should be at 4. My question is...those of you doing only 3 feeds, when did you drop the 4th feed?
Post by: mickymuscles on December 09, 2005, 02:57:20 am
olivia...we are still on 4 formula feeds a day. I don't see any end in sight to drop it down to 3. Jack's bottles are sometimes smaller after his solids but he is still wanting the 3 oclock snack.
Traci>>> we are using the nuby for all formula feeds (I only have one....I'm going to buy more and then probably use the nuby for everything) For juice and water we are using a straw and cup. Although he does get very excited when he sees the straw so I might just stick with it and maybe find a bottle with a straw. I have to make sure the straw is short enough otherwise Jackson will give up after awhile if he figures there is nothing in the cup to suck hard enough.
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 03:48:00 am
Kate - congrats on the sleeping....yeah!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject:
Ankie - OMG I could never imagine CIO with a baby so very young...wow, my heart aches for the lo.
Hannah-yes I'm so happy I met Traci at the mall that day :wink:
Traci - sorry about your night sweetie, hoping tonight is better, and as for Brady's bum, still rash and still very raw and sore. :(
Thanks for all the info on the yougurt ladies.... :)
We didn't have a great night either, although I think Traci's was a bit worse last night it seems. We had wakings about every 45 minutes or so, almost like he just couldn't get passed that window... :? :?: I don't know. I'm so hoping for a better night tonight. I wish my dh could help out at night, but it just can't happen here, although he does help out on the weekend so that is good, but...his hours are so long and hard that it just doesn't seem fair to wake him to help out, I'm home and can nap when Brady does etc...so for now its Brady and I and the night.... :?
Brady had his PED appt yesterday. He's growing well, reflux is acting up a lot today, lots of spit ups and some choking episodes.... :( but he is doing well. Great news....the lump I was concerned about is apparently a gland forming....hmmm silly me you'd think I would have known that....I feel so stupid, but its not quite where our glands would be swollen on the sides of our neck, it was the size of a pea, hard and on the base of his neck at the back, where his neck and head join, anyway, as you know I was a bit concerned, dh and my mom told me it was nothing, but glad I had it checked anyway, makes me feel stupid I didn't know it was a gland, but glad thats all it is. :oops:
I haven't done my Christmas cards yet....I"m so far behind.... :oops: I need to get them done soon to get them all out!!! Although had a bit of a set back today, all those nice prof. pics I had done, well they won't be in now...not for Christmas cards anyway....the film got ruined and I'm sooo upset, I have to have them redone, but that is going to take forever. :x :evil: I'm really bummed about the whole thing.
Well, off for now.
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 09, 2005, 03:56:33 am
Hannah, so sweet of your DH to send flowers and chocolates. :D
OK, off to cook something for the kids for dinner.
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 04:05:14 am
Sorry just wanted to share that!
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 09, 2005, 04:38:14 am
Yay for Brady!
BTW, in case any of you were wondering, we did not continue to sleep on the puked on sheets...I did get up and change them and they were happily lying on the floor waiting to be washed while I posted this morning! :lol: didn't want you guys to think I was totally nasty!
So to continue with Traci's game...
you know you are addicted to the BW site when:
you contstanly think in your head DH and DD/DS MIL, ROTFLMAO and all other acronyms as you have conversations with people!
you're so consumed with reading posts that you completely miss the obvious sexual advances DH is making at 11 o'clock at night! :lol:
Ladies, please continue...
So thanks for all the compliments on the outfit. We think it is pretty jazzy!
Traci-I had the screen printer do some of the more complicated artwork designs first and now he is doing some of the funny sayings.
Oh yeah, I finally got Taylor to drink h2o out of a cup today. I finally got a Nuby and made the water ice cold and she loved it! she would drink and then get all smiley and giggly...soooo cute.
We are taking our christams cards this weekend and should have them completed by Tuesday or Wednesday, and mailed out by next weekend...so some of you may get them in time and some may not, but you will all get them I promise!
BTW, so glad your day went well Hannah! Can't wait to chat tomorrow night and hear all about it.
TTFN
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 09, 2005, 05:14:23 am
Holly, yay for Brady, watch out it might not take long. Daniel's gone from sitting happily to crawling in about 3 weeks.
Kate I forgot to say how I loved the little bear PJ's. There's a few Little Bear things over here, but I'm hoping to get them for Christmas as they're from Pumpkin Patch therefore expensive. If not, I'll just have to splash out and get them.
Andrea, good idea about trying really cold water for Taylor. Something different I guess.
Holly and Traci, just keep telling yourselves (and your LO's) it can ONLY get BETTER. And it will. Thinking of you guys I know how hard it is.
Better go bathtime awaits. DH is out doing the grocery shopping, getting my Xmas present and picking up pizza for dinner, all things I'm really happy he's doing! :lol: :lol: So don't mind doing bathing.
night night ladies and little ones!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 09, 2005, 05:42:45 am
You know you're addicted to BW site when...
Your entire dinner conversation with DH consists of stories from your BW friends and their LOs.
You would rather get caught up on reading and posting that getting much-needed sleep.
Speaking of...I'm off to bed!
G'night all!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 09, 2005, 06:26:32 am
Quote from: Olivia's Mommy
You would rather get caught up on reading and posting that getting much-needed sleep.
YES! And also, instead of watching hours of TV in the evening, I have the laptop on the couch arm and surf instead of watching...
Hayley, I'd probably lower the cot level now, he could surprise you by his first time standing actually being in his cot. Wow, Danielle's still on the top level with the cot side lowered still.
Way to go all those little movers! :D
Post by: becca24 on December 09, 2005, 06:38:50 am
DH is playing with Halle so I jumped on to check the thread !! I am addicted too....He is off FISHING tomorrow :roll: :roll: What a life a man has eh?? He got the phone call from his mate during dinner. He was looking at me and I rolled my eyes at him and gave him a nod. He said to his mate "Yeah I can go, I've got the go ahead from the boss" LOL When he hung up the phone I just looked at him and said "You suck". He had better bring home a great big fish or else he could be wearing his fishing rod fair up his bum.
Love the photo's eveyone they are just beautiful. Ankie, can't wait to see the chopsticks photo. Andrea that outfit Taylor is wearing is soooo great. Can't wait to see the rest of them. Yes Halle looks heaps like her Daddy.
GO DANIEL !! Yay for crawling.
Halle has been waking up a few times between bedtime (6.30ish) and around midnight. I read on another post that this could be caused from being overtired??? Anyone have any thoughts on this?? No catnap but she usually wakes from 2nd nap between 2.30 and 3.15 so that's only 3 - 4 hours :?
Who was eating the cucumber? Anyway, I gave Halle some to try and she loved it !! Yay a new finger food!! Cherios are new here so I tried some - sorry YUCK !! Halle screwed up her face as well :lol:
Update on the story about my Nan's baby. I have found the name of the cemetery where she was buried. Also, there is a Family History Society in town that has the records I need from 1956 regarding burials at that cemetery. However, they are closed till January so I will have to wait. But it was so much easier than I expected. Finally we might be able to give her a 'real' name and some sort of memorial.
Who are the teachers in our group Hannah? Ankie? I am so paranoid about my spelling that you guys are going to get your red pencils out and correct everything LOL
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 09, 2005, 13:54:31 pm
Nancy: WHite Christmas is my absolute favorite Xmas movie too!!! I watch it every Christmas Eve!!
Kate: Love the pictures! The 'bear bum" is so cute!!!
Judy: I think you said that your DH works for Siemens??? Is that the one in Tilbury?? My DH is currently working with some guys there on some of his projects!! Also, one of our good friends works there as well!!
Yeah to all those who are crawling! I don't think we are anywhere near there yet. Carter seems to forget how to roll over lately!! OUr new thing is throwing ourselves from sitting to our belly, bashing our head on the hardwood and crying :roll:
Anyway, have a good day ladies!! Here's a pic of what we found outside this morning!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 09, 2005, 14:35:52 pm
Yay for Brady!!!
Bec-""You suck". He had better bring home a great big fish or else he could be wearing his fishing rod fair up his bum." ROFLMAO
Like I said at chat-so wonderful for your nan. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. have you told her yet?
Nikki-Chocolate brownies are fine, thank you. And could you please do a little run down on your veggie patties as well. By the way, what is vegemite/marmite? I wonder if it's cream cheese as we call it here :? :?:
Here is our night for those that are interested. I realize it's getting a little tiresome reading about it...but I just need to get it out.
down at 7:00
woke at 8:20 as I was going out, DH tried pupd for 10 min. then held to sleep :(
woke at 10:00, I settled
woke at 11:00, I settled
woke at 12:00, settled on and off crying on and off until 1:15 when he became hysterical. Got DH to measure out advil. held him to sleep finally at 1:55. While holding I heard his tummy grumble...but still 2 more hours until my 10 hour rule.
put down at 2:10, up at 2:20 :?
fed, back down until 5:20 (phew)
didn't realize how full i'd be on the one side in the morning...so when i put cole on the second side he actually gagged, choked and spit up a lot. Then I tried to offer again (wasn't sure what happened as it was dark) and my nipple wasn't even in his mouth and he gagged :cry: Okay, he was full I guess.
So, I fed before 10 hours, around 8.5 hours so that's an hour longer than he's ever gone. Think I'll keep the night feed (11pm) for a while then do pupd in the wee hours. Or do you girls think this might be confusing for him? Bec mentioned that last week. Sometimes mom feeds me and sometimes she doesn't?
Put him down for nap at 2.5A and he woke at 45, luckily extended as I needed more sleep. DH took him from 6:30, put down for nap at 8:00, so I slept until he woke at 8:45. Still down now at 9:35...yay.
Naps are good lately, just not sure about bedtime. hmph. maybe he's been overtired...but doesn't seem to want to go down earlier either.
Considering a chiropractor...couldn't hurt to try anyway...in case something is a little off.
okay, off to enjoy my coffee.
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Post by: Judy on December 09, 2005, 15:12:05 pm
As for the snow - we're right in between you Cathy and you Traci and we just got a dusting of it. I was out with a friend and it was quite blustery on the way home but we live in the country about 20min from the city so it doesn't take much to be blustery out here. :)
Hannah's crawling - combat crawl but still moving forward and making ground!! :)
Post by: Erin M on December 09, 2005, 15:27:20 pm
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you contstanly think in your head DH and DD/DS MIL, ROTFLMAO and all other acronyms as you have conversations with people!
Andrea - I'm so glad it's not just me.
Traci - I think if you just pick one thing and stick to it for a week or so, it wouldn't be confusing for Cole. Like if you do something DFish around 11 and then don't feed again until morning, they he wouldn't think that when he wakes up, he gets fed at all, KWIM?
Hayley - Yay for Daniel and the crawling forwards! Katie is still an "army crawler" here and shows no interest in crawling the proper way. Glad you like the movie, hopefully we'll get to check it out during the holidays when we have family around to watch Katie.
Becca - love the pic! SO cute! BTW, I'm one of the teachers too, though I'm a special ed teacher and haven't ever had a kid that could spell anyway so I don't really notice it!
Judy - YAY for Hannah!
Holly - YAY for Brady! All these little movers! Sorry to hear about your pictures, I think I'd be upset too. Oh, and I so do NOT think you were being paranoid about the bump on Brady's neck. I would have worried too and gotten it checked out, so I don't think you should feel badly about that at all.
Hannah - glad the first day back went well and what a sweet DH you have. Bet you couldn't wait to see Sophie! On days when I work, I get so excited to see Katie.
Snow here too - something like 6-9 inches according to the news, though I haven't actually gone outside and checked it out yet. Katie actually slept last night despite the stuffy nose and teething, so I was pleasantly surprised.
Ladies, my cat is stupid. She is the sweetest thing ever, but she has the IQ of a rock I think. Katie loves the cat, loves to grab her tail and her feet (which the cat does not like at all - even makes unhappy little meowing sounds when Katie grabs at her). Does the cat move when Katie does it? Of course not. Sometimes she'll kind of scoot about 3 inches away - Katie follows her of course. Sometimes I feel bad for the cat and move her to the nice comfy couch. Then, the cat comes back and lays down near Katie and it all starts again. Poor stupid cat! I'll post some snowy pics later!
Post by: Richelle on December 09, 2005, 15:41:26 pm
Well done Daniel and Hannah - little busy bodies!!
Bec - LOL, I have many times threatened to "shove" my DH's golf clubs! Lucky guy to have such a cool DW!
Traci - Stay strong, it has to get better right? I wonder what it is with Cole, I do think about it all the time. I suppose that is another "you know you are addicted' moment, I was driving yesterday and was racking my brain as to what may help Cole sleep!
It has finally warmed up here (-5)so I am taking Sophie outside for the 1st time since Sunday :shock: , and that was only from the car to the house. News here is that Sophie is pulling herself up! She still is mainly shimmying and rolling not quite proper crawling but she pulled herself up on the couch yesterday and kept doing it on the bottom step this morning :shock: ! I will post a pic later also I will post a pic of Sophie in a sleigh - definately a 1st for us, it will be cute for daddy to see!
Gotta run........
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 09, 2005, 15:51:45 pm
We were a little late landing and with the time change I think it was almost 8 pm when I got her to bed and she just zonked. Slept all night, barely made a peep! :lol:
When we got in last night MIL had "our room" all set up with playpen, bed etc. There were new flannel PJ's on my bed, new cashmere socks and new slippers!! Molly had new PJ's in her playpen as well as various new toys and gadgets laid about the room for her. How lucky am I??
Love, love, love my inlaws. I am sooooooooooo blessed.
Anyways, off to get Molls down for her nap, just had to update.
Hugs to everyone!!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 09, 2005, 16:30:47 pm
Oh yeah, and Andrea...I almost always ignore dh's sexual advances for a peek of the posts :)
I want to say so much more...but only have time to say thank you all SO MUCH for all of the support. I am here reading. I love it. Also, yesterday Sophie was sooooo cute when I picked her up. She got all excited and started burrowing her head in my chest and bouncing up and down borrowing/bouncing and on and on it was very satisfying :)
OK, gotta work a little. See you all tonight!!!
Yay!
Hannah
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 17:00:03 pm
Nikki and Erin - thanks for the reassurance that you both would do the same thing regarding the lump on Brady's neck, makes me feel less of a worrier, and that I'm not alone in my feelings about it. Just happy that all is well with him. And Nikki, I agree with you, I didn't even know glands were on the back of the neck like that, just the sides. :?
Andrea - haven't given Brady ice cold water yet, I think Traci mentioned she did it with Cole as well, maybe I should, he may be more interested in it that way instead of room temp. I always thought it would give him stomach cramps or something being so cold, but maybe not. Also, love the outfit, adorable!
Hayley - YAH for Daniel crawling forward!!!!
Bec - I think I missed something somewhere along the posts maybe, but from what I'm reading now, your Nan lost a baby? I'm so happy to hear that you will hopefully be able to give the baby a name and memorial...its so very important and It means so very much.....(coming from someone who has lost a child)
Cathy - we had the same huge snowfall here today too....Brady and I were to go out today and were going to stop by and see Traci and Cole, but we're going to have to leave it till next week. Dh called this morning, and said the roads were just terrible, he is only about 5 minutes from work and said there was 7 accidents in that time span. omg :shock: , so we sadly won't be visiting Traci and Cole today. bummed about that, was looking forward to it.
Well, our night wasn't so bad...Brady went down fairly well, settled within about 10 minutes or so....and slept through until 2am, was up from 2am till 4am, and then back to sleep until 7am. So all in all, we had a good night. ( I did p/u p/d and rubbed his back and sang to him thru those two hours of awake time) he didn't want any part in it, wanted to cry and be held mostly :( and boy do I feel bad when all he wants is to be cuddled and I keep trying to put him to bed.
Well, since we are inside today, hoping to clean my house..wish me luck, its so cluttered I can't even think where to begin. :?
ttfn
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Colesmom on December 09, 2005, 17:13:19 pm
forgot to mention we had a bit of a puking episode last night at dinner. I thought it was because he took in some air while trying to do the sippy himself and not tilting it. It wasn't much, just some cereal. Well, we had a HUGE puke session at lunch just now. I gave him a small bit of egg yolk and EBM. So now I'm wondering, is it that? or the formula in his cereal? *sigh*. maybe i'll just stick to our tried and true foods (which aren't many) until I sort out the sleeping/teething issue. It's too hard to judge right now what is affecting him.
And Erin-thanks for the tip of sticking with something. I guess I have been all over the place and the little guy must be so confused. Will do DF at around 11 then I'll know he can go the rest of the night.
Anyone else have their lo pooping ALL the time. Yesterday they were a bit hard, not sure why. But today they are fine, it's just that he'll BF and poop, eat lunch and poop, and well, just poop all the time it seems. I think I changed 6 poopy diapers yesterday before I decided to just start plucking out the poop and leaving the diaper on. Sorry if TMI and gross I know! I haven't been giving him as much food as that dinner either. That was 15tbsp...but he normally gets through 10-12 comfortably. Maybe that's what it is...his body adjusting to the increased food.
As for BF-I wish our breasts had numbers on them. I guess that's a big reason I want him on the bottle also. I just don't know what he's taking during the day. Often now it's only one breast, but he's on there a good 10-15 minutes so maybe my body is just adjusting to single side feeding? I hope that's the case and he's not refusing the second because he's impatient for the milk. I tried pumping today after he didn't eat and only got an ounce...hmmm??
oh well, time for windown.
good day all. looking forward to chat. do i ever need to hang out with you girls!
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 18:17:30 pm
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Erin M on December 09, 2005, 18:51:15 pm
Post by: Colesmom on December 09, 2005, 18:57:26 pm
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 09, 2005, 19:22:27 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 09, 2005, 19:46:01 pm
Cute snow baby Erin!
Hannah
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 20:08:43 pm
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Judy on December 09, 2005, 20:31:51 pm
So I'm not telling him you do this - I'll never hear the end of it!!
We get a few poops a day - still very mushy, Kaia had one hardish one yesterday and poor thing cried :( (Traci I assume yours are hard and you aren't scraping the poop off the diaper - btw, I'm lmao here!!)
Love the pic Erin!!! :)
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 09, 2005, 20:37:51 pm
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Traci I assume yours are hard and you aren't scraping the poop off the diaper - btw, I'm lmao here
I've been known to do this occasionally when Nathan was wearing disposables and I'd literally just put it on him and heard him grunt it out (now I use cloth on my two) and if it was hard I'd just drop it down the toilet. :P
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 09, 2005, 20:47:44 pm
Hannah
BTW I have an "issue" with putting a "dirty diaper" on a clean bum too. I just can't do it, even if it's not even dirty...just already worn once :)
Ah the joys of being anal....pun intended :)
Hannah
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 20:55:39 pm
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Ah the joys of being anal....pun intended :)
Hannah
Hannah you crack me up lol....I have an issue with putting a used diaper on clean bum too, even if its only be worn a short while, (like changed just before bath etc) and its not dirty, I still put a clean one on
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 09, 2005, 20:55:48 pm
Erin--that picture is too cute!
Michelle--lucky you to have such wonderful ILs...have a great visit.
Here's my question for the day: When you are out and about during LOs naptime, and he/she falls asleep in the car, do you keep driving/stay out till they finish the nap, or do you come home and try to resettle? We went to lunch with some friends for one of their birthdays today. I was hoping we'd be home again in time for nap #2, but she fell asleep in the car about 10 min from home. This has happened before and I usually am prepared--have other "drive-thru" errands to run, or have a book and just part somewhere and read till she's through with her nap. But I was completely unprepared today. So, I just came home and tried to put her back down. Well she would have none of it. So, I let her play for another 20-30 min when she started getting tired again, I did the wind-down and tried to put her down again. But she still wouldn't go down. That's been 25 minutes ago now, and she's just lying in her crib blowing raspberries and talking to herself. I'm beginning to wish I'd just kept driving so she would have at least taken a nap. What do you guys do, or would you do, in a similar situation?
Sorry for the long post...just wanting some input and advice.
Post by: B&BMommy on December 09, 2005, 21:01:18 pm
As for being out during naps, I have always done exactly what you usually do, if Brady falls asleep in the car before we get home, I literally just drive around until his nap is done, cause once the car stops he wakes up and if I want him to nap this is what I have to do. Now in saying that, dh has had Brady out once on the weekend and it happened to him so he came home as planned, took Brady out of the car, Brady woke up, and he just sat in the glider and rocked him back to sleep and it worked for him. Sooo, I thought of trying it once, didn't work for me at all, so I'm back to travelling around if need be till he wakes up. Never again trying that. lol
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Jayri on December 09, 2005, 21:12:44 pm
I think Ri is having some issues with me working, I say this as bedtime is becoming harder to do, she will not go down unless she has a feed and then snuggles. So I think I am going to try a leter bedtime for her, Jay is fine as he goes down well at night, but I nedd to do something as the first thing Ri does is lay down for a bf, even when I am carrying her into the house.
Hannah, glad to know work is going well.
Poops, well, Ri's are not too bad, but I cannot wait for Jay to be trained, I can't handle his poops for much longer...ewwwww!!!!...nuff said on that.
Traci, you can get marmite in the cooking section at the grocery store, it is considered a cooking product where it has yeastin it, and yes as nikki said, it is an aquired taste.
I realised this afternoon that I have got a fantastic job, about 3pm this afternoon, I was listening in on calls, to see how things worked out in "the real world" and not the classroom, anyhew, someone said it was fun friday, as I was enquiring about it, I see a cart LOADED with beer and coolers, no joke.....so there I was having a beer at work. And to top it off they said we could have more than 1....OMG....OMG.....OMG.....never has a beer tasted soooo good.
K....ladies I am off, I will see you all for our "date" tonight.
Post by: Colesmom on December 09, 2005, 21:13:47 pm
they are dumpable poops, I only do it if the diaper is relatively fresh, like 30 minutes. there is rarely pee in it when i do this. And no, i wouldn't do it just before bed-always a fresh one in that situation (post bath)
speaking of which-he just grunted-off to pick out some poop!
nancy-will post re driving tonight...
Post by: Judy on December 09, 2005, 21:43:29 pm
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speaking of which-he just grunted-off to pick out some poop!
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 09, 2005, 21:48:47 pm
Traci, that's all right, you and I can be the gross ones! :wink:
Post by: Erin M on December 09, 2005, 21:49:58 pm
I always change poopy diapers too - and change them after a bath too.
Nancy - If I want Katie to keep napping I will drive around sometimes because I can NEVER get her back to sleep once we get home. Of course she never takes as long a nap in the car anyway.
I'm hoping to make the chat later.
Bye now!
Post by: hayes on December 09, 2005, 21:52:37 pm
Try to make this quick I am off to the doc to see why Ben has yellow boogers coming out of his eyes.
Ankie-Ben eats a lot some days and other days only 5 bites at each solid feeding, unless of course it is yogurt then his mouth is open before he has swallowed the food
Holly-so glad the lump was nothing
Bec-I was a teacher too. Now I am only mentoring new teachers. (I am having lots of troubles with one of the teachers I am working with. Wanted to make some mean comment about the fact that she was spelling many many words wrong during a lesson, then realized that I am supposed to be providing positive support!) I am a terrible speller so I won't be noticing your mistakes.
Erin-Our dog doesn't move either. Ben has this exasaucer thingy that he can walk around a central play area and he practically runs over the dog and he still doesn't move.
Michelle-Your inlaws OMG you are soooo lucky. My Dh had to hang up on his mom yesterday while she was crying because we told he that we wouldn't be able to make a brunch with her and my parents over the holidays. We are going to be seeing them 4 other times though.
Hannah-YIPEEEE about work. You are awesome
Nancy-Sometimes Ben transfers after a nap, sometimes I keep him awake and sometimes I let him play when we come inside then put him down after a little bit-I know that info really helped(sarcastic face!)
All the snow ladies-It looks like sooo much fun!
OFf to the doctor. Will try hard to make my first ever chat tonight even if it only for a bit.
macaire
Post by: hayes on December 09, 2005, 21:53:55 pm
Post by: becca24 on December 09, 2005, 22:37:35 pm
Traci - cracked me up about the poop :lol: I wish Halle would do that many! I am worried she does not go enough. I laughed so loud when reading your comment about vegemite and cream cheese being the same !!! You probably could not get two things so not alike. I would love to see the look on your face when you taste vegemite :lol: :lol:
oh excuse me Jessica Simpson is on the telly , I have to go throw a chair through the screen........................................................
That would have to be the second worse song I have ever heard :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Loving the snow photo's - Erin the photo of Katie is just beautiful. I would have to wait until July/August and drive about 900klms to get a photo like that !!!
Michelle - your MIL sounds soooo nice. Lucky girl. Mine buys me weird presents... ages ago she bought me a book on how to make 'crafty' things for children's fete's :? I have never made anything 'crafty' in my life, I didn't have Halle at the time and I couldn't cook a lamington if my life depended on it :?
Naomi - Just have to say - Beer at work?? I love it.
Holly - Yes, my Nan had a baby girl in 1956. She only lived 6hrs. Then they just took her away and that was basically the last they heard of her. They never talked about her and didn't know where she was buried. So sad. They did give her a name but it was not recorded on the death cert. So you can understand her pain a lot more than I can but we just want to do something for her as she has now started to talk about it. We are not religious people at all but it does not feel right to just leave it KWIM?
As for the napping in the car or pram. This was something that I discovered was causing Halle to have 45min naps. I go for a walk every morning and Halle would fall asleep in the pram on the way back. Then I would put her in her cot when I got home and she would not sleep or only sleep for 30-45mins. After reading some info from Andrea and Traci about weissbluth (sp?) I now keep her awake while walking or in the car (this is a bit harder). But it has been working ! She is napping HEAPS better. This morning she was up at 5.30 :twisted: It was hard work getting her to 9.00 I tell you :roll: :roll:
Post by: Colesmom on December 09, 2005, 23:17:24 pm
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oh excuse me Jessica Simpson is on the telly , I have to go throw a chair through the screen........................................................
That would have to be the second worse song I have ever heard
tee hee, laughing again I tell ya!
sooooo, I think I made progress with Cole today. Let's ignore the TWO huge puking episodes and the fact that he seemed to have indigestion or something all day. gassy/burpy and swallowing it back down-YUMMY!!!
Up at 5:20, down at 8:00 and I extended a 45 minuter to 1:40! Down at 12:40 until 2pm. Yay! Tried putting down at 5:45pm (going based on wake time and end of nap) and he didn't settle until 6....SO, I think I'm going to do nap 1 around 8-8:30 depending on when he wakes, nap two likely around 12:30 as I will wake him at 9:30, then bed at 6. I am hoping I have my evenings back. No more second naps past 2pm I tell ya! I think he'll do better tonight. Of course, I stopped logging his sleep...but if I ever need to see I guess I can just check the thread! LOL
Nancy-the ONLY time I have ever transitioned Cole successfully from car to crib was the other day when he was way past nap time and only asleep 5 minutes in the car. I was going to drive around but thought it ludricrous to drive around another 1:25 or something. OH-and he'd had his flu shot, that may have had something to do with it.
Naomi-very cool about the beer! The only time I drank at work was when it was our christmas party I snuck a Mikes Hard Lemonade into a styrofoam cup while I finished my day. hee hee. And I didn't even make any mistakes :wink:
can't wait for chat. yippee.
OH-almost forgot my snow man. Our friends from Pittsburgh gave us the hat. tee hee
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/littlepenguina.jpg)
Post by: kate585 on December 10, 2005, 03:35:42 am
You know you're addicted when:
You think to yourself, "Sweet! I don't have plans on Friday night. I can chat with the girls!" :oops:
Post by: Jayri on December 10, 2005, 03:44:14 am
what a wonderful way to kick off the weekend tho!!!!!!
Post by: kq on December 10, 2005, 05:48:20 am
LOL Traci about scrapping the poop off. Sam has a strange habit of only pooping in fresh nappies..I kid you not, he will only go when the nappy is fresh. I have a thing about changing nappies and I change his after every feed and after every poop. dh would love me to do what you do! Not telling him.
Hope the gripe water helped Cole.
I am sooo slack and don't think I told you all. Sam has been crawling for about 2 weeks (properly) and commando crawling for about 4. He has in the last week been pulling himself up to standing. He also takes steps when i hold both his hands and walks round the house.
HAYLEY, we put the gate up but have not gotten round to lowering his cot. He stands up in his cot while holding onto the bars but is not trying to climb yet.
ANKIE, lol on the chopsticks. Sam also loves eating off my chopsticks but takes too long with his purees. I only feed him with chopsticks when we go for Dim Sum.
As for naps in the car, Sam will not resettle but will carry on sleeping if the car stops. We usually just drive to a park or the beach and sit and read a book or catch a little nap ourselves while he sleep. Yesterday, we got home and just left him in the car while he slept and we unloaded the groceries.
NIKKI, what brand cloth nappies are you using? I have not been brave enough to venture there yet.
Sam has been waking at 5 am a lot this past week plus a few night wakings. I just go with it and do not fight him to get him back down. Nikki, Judy and Naomi have really taught me to go with flow and out days usually work out fine. I think it is developmental as I often find him sitting up or kneeling in bed a 5 am. After that, it is all over rover.
NIKKI and was it LISA or JO, LOL on the sports colours. I am a bit of a sport addict when it is trans tasman except for cricket, I just don't get it.
Oh and welcome Michelle. Meant to say this a while back but mummy brain etc etc.
Take care,
Karen
Post by: Richelle on December 10, 2005, 14:15:25 pm
Poped on to the chat last night when I got home and only managed a few seconds with Bec. Sorry I missed it!
Well, I must say that I have never had a chance/thought/reason to 'scrape sophie's diaper!! Gotta love the poopy talk!
Sophie is constantly up on all fours rocking away - i am really surprised she is not properly crawling yet bu I suppose I can wait!!
I will try to post a couple of pics later.
Post by: Judy on December 10, 2005, 14:18:41 pm
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oh excuse me Jessica Simpson is on the telly , I have to go throw a chair through the screen........................................................
That would have to be the second worse song I have ever heard :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ROTFLMAO
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 10, 2005, 14:29:32 pm
Yesterday, it took me 2.5 hours of going in, winding down, rocking her, etc. to get her to sleep. I even fed her, she was asleep, put her in crib and she woke up!!! I probably would have just let it go, but we had to go to a b-day party last night and I knew she would need the nap. After 2.5 hrs of trying, she only slept for 45 min. So I was really nervous about how she'd be at the party. But, she did GREAT!!!! She laughed at everyone and had a good time (I was really excited, because usually new people/places make her a little uneasy.) We stayed until 10:00!!! (Didn't plan on it, and that's the first time we've done that in 8 months! But all of our good friends were there, and Liv was doing so well, I didn't want to leave!) We changed her into PJs and fed her there before we came home. I knew she'd sleep in the car (about a 20 min drive), but I was prepared for a fight at home and a long night. I took her out of her car seat and she stayed asleep!! I took her coat off....and she stayed asleep!!! I rocked her for just a minute, cause she started to stir, then I put her in her crib...and she stayed asleep!! She slept until 7:30 this morning!!!! I was so excited!!!!
We DEFINITELY won't be doing that all the time. (We usually just let our social life suffer for the sake of her bedtime.) But for the rare occasion that we are out that late, it's nice to know she can do it.
Hope everyone's night went well. I'd like to make the chat sometime, but Fridays are hard...that's usually my time with DH. Maybe one of these days!
Have a great weekend everyone! Off to make breakfast for DH and my little munchkin!!
Post by: Judy on December 10, 2005, 14:57:00 pm
Post by: Colesmom on December 10, 2005, 15:33:51 pm
okay, horrid night as expected. As I mentioned at chat when I got home from drug store at 11, DH said cole had been sleeping 20 min. He slept until 12:30. DH and I fought to get the gripe water into him, only managed half a dose (1tsp). then his advil as it was time for that too. I wonder now if it's the advil that's bothering him? only used that for a few days now :?: anyway, tried to settle him with no luck. DH slept with him in the glider from 1-3. He was up at 3:30. I slept with him 3:30-4:15 then put him in crib...stayed until 5 to be sure he was asleep, settling him a few times, sitting next to crib or trying to sleep on floor. i went to bed at 5 to have him get up at 5:10 for the day. *sigh*
fed okay at first feed, but not so great at 9:30. think i'll have to feed him in little bits today in case his tummy is still bothering him.
i also wonder how much his troubles are attributed to all the holding. but how do you not hold your lo when you think they are in pain/uncomfortable. not to mention how uncomfortable it is for us to stand and pat for an hour at a time.
oh well. have to be consistent. no more holding.
Karen-Can Sams head reach over the rail? If so I strongly recommend moving the crib mattress down. I heard they can tip out if they lean out too far. better safe than sorry. ( i think it was you about not moving the cot-sorry!)
okay, off for breakfast. and COFFEE-very much needed today
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 10, 2005, 15:38:41 pm
Post by: Erin M on December 10, 2005, 15:57:15 pm
Go Sam! Katie seems to be stuck in commando crawling - gets her around quite well though, so why bother doing something else I guess?!
Sorry about the chat - it kept freezing up on me and then I couldn't get back on. How sad :(
Anyway, I think we're off to do some Christmas shopping today.
Traci, sorry about the rotten night - hope things get better soon!
Post by: kate585 on December 10, 2005, 16:18:20 pm
Way to go Sam and Olivia!!! How exciting. I think I'm slack, too. (That sounds so British to me. I love it!) Ryan is about the same as Sam, I think, though not for as long. Isn't it fun/frustrating? He is getting EVERYWHERE! And, the other day, he climbed up the entire flight of stairs (with me right behind him, of course!) Today, it's gates at the bottom of the stairs, too. :roll: That'll be annoying for the next 5 years or so!
Traci, good luck with Cole today/tonight. I'm sending lots of good thoughts your way.
Ankie, how is Arwyn doing? You haven't mentioned it lately, so I'm hoping it's going well! :D
And...drumroll, please....RYAN HAS SLEPT THROUGH THE LAST TWO NIGHTS!!! (Anti-jinx thoughts inserted here, please!) Thank you to Traci and Holly, because I think it was hunger. :oops: (And, all my accidental parenting, of course, but we won't mention that. 8) ) We've started giving him a lot more food and I think it's helped with naps, too. Not sure why I didn't think of it...more movement=more burned calories=more need for calories. Okay, enough beating myself up!
Off to wrap some presents...all 3 I've gotten so far are for Ryan. Too bad dh had to go to stupid work this am :evil: or maybe I could have gotten some more done. It's soooo much easier without the babe along.
Post by: Colesmom on December 10, 2005, 16:45:02 pm
Nancy-haven't gone to the doc yet. he's puking (or large spit up anyway) after eating. So I don't think it's of major concern yet. I'm monitoring his temp and activity level and he seems happy otherwise. It's not like he's puking and puking and puking. anyway, on that note, off to give him some gripe water.
will check back later. ILs here today, hoping to get out of the house. I have major cabin fever!
Post by: Colesmom on December 10, 2005, 17:45:20 pm
He did nap 1 and Cole had a great 1:15 nap. I wanted to tidy the kitchen so I asked him to do nap 2. Now, wasn't sure if it was too early by the clock (12:15pm) but he'd been up 3 hours. I told DH no earlier than 12:15 to go down. I hear Cole cry at 12:10. Hmmm, a touch early, we'll see how it goes. He cries a bit and I hear DH singing softly. A bit more crying then settling. YAY. Then I'm wondering, where is DH?? I wash the kitchen floor etc and think, okay, he's just making sure he's asleep before he leaves. 20 min. later I go up and he's asleep in the glider with Cole!!!!! :evil: :twisted: :evil: :roll: Man, naps are sooooo easy. I woke him to put him down, asked him WHY he was holding him. Didn't you hear him cry? YES, but I do this often for 30 minutes!!! :!: Sheesh, all I need is for us to screw up his great naps too. Then I'll NEVER get a break.
okay, thanks for letting me get that out.
going to tidy this disaster while DH naps :evil:
Post by: mickymuscles on December 10, 2005, 18:09:00 pm
Traci-sorry to hear about your night :( And I double your :x at your DH!! I would be so annoyed!! I hope it doesn't spell double the work for you!! :shock: Vegemite: DEFINITELY an aquired taste! :shock: I have an aussie friend that lived here for ayear and she was sad she could only find a small jar of it. She said it comes in containers the size of Cheese Whiz in australia. i tried it....no offence to you all down yonder....but....EEEEWWWWWWW!!!! THHHSSSPPPTTT! (me spitting :))
Yeah Nancy and Olivia!! How very exciting!! I'm very impressed! Also, about the carnapping....we can't move Jack either so I always have a book with me to read just incase. :wink:
I'm so amazed with all these babes crawling and standing. Jack is just pushing himself backwards. He still can't get himself into a sitting position on his own either. It may be because he can't bend his legs....hmmm. I'll be interested to see what kind of progress he makes once his casts are off. 9 more days!! :D
Post by: Richelle on December 10, 2005, 18:51:16 pm
I just have a minute but I wanted to ask you Traci; are you giving Cole ready made formula or powder and what are the expiry dates? I know you aren't giving him alot but still. The ready made formula made Sophie puke so much we spent the night in the hospital but she had 4oz and she was only 2 months. My ped. said that it is often too rich for a breastfed baby to digest. it really sounds to me like it is his stomach, have you tried raising the head of his crib, maybe he gets acidy/reflux?
Also wanted to say that the Gripe water that we use is KOLIK brand and it is alcohol free. It is in a blue and white box. it is fennel oil so it is sweet and Sophie LOVES it. I think the other brands are dill and alcohol -YUCK! WE put some gripe in her water if she is fussy (she is a happy spiller 'refluxer') and it helps her drink the water and always settles her!
I have also limited Sophie to 2.5 hours TOTAL daytime sleep and put her to bed at either 6:30-7PM and she goes until 6 - 630AM. I f she sleeps more in the daytime she wakes at night or early morning yacking to herself - hse has so far usually managed to resettle but we will see.
Just some thoughts I had b/c I am a sleep junky and I want for you and Cole to start having some better sleeps :wink: !
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 10, 2005, 21:04:19 pm
Traci - I could have written Richelle's post, I was thinking along the same lines. How much day sleep is Cole getting? Maybe too much. Maybe it's reflux causing regular waking. Also, how much food is he getting? I know you've increased but maybe somethings still not right with the amount. Did this all start when you got onto solids? Perhaps he has an allergy causing tummy pain? Finally, and I hope no-one take this the wrong way, as I DON'T believe in CIO (which is why I'm on here), but do you let him cry for a little time before seeing to Cole? And I'm not talking howling here. When he starts at night is it a full out cry or just, come and get me I want a cuddle. I found once I stopped going to Daniel immediately in the night within about 2-3 mins he'd stop and keep sleeping. I'm also constantly thinking about why Cole might not be sleeping so one day amongst all of us we'll hopefully find an answer. Oh, last thought, he's not too hot/cold is he?? Since stripping Daniel of nearly all his clothes and blankets he's slept much better. Maybe he needs less/more layers? He's not in a draft is he? And I say stick with the dreamfeed for now too.
Cathy, Daniel started his moving by going from sitting to tummy and within 3-4 weeks he was crawling!
Judy, great news about Hannah's crawling.
Michelle, what a great MIL you have. Mine's good, but not that good! LOL.
I never understood the excuse of "developmental" when they wouldn't go to sleep. Ok, now I understand. Since Daniel's started crawling he's also discovered he can do this in his cot. Yep, found him on his tummy sideways at the bottom of the cot, thismorning on all 4 looking at me smiling, all sorts of directions. I was about to post to you more experienced ladies what do I do.... but then I went in and lay him down again and tucked his sheet in. Voila, he stayed and went straight to sleep. For now!!! I guess soon he'll discover he can get out of this too! :roll: But for now it's worked.
Gotta go and have a shower 10.am and still in Pj's. No snow here so no excuse! Off for our annual helicopter ride today so that'll be fun. The airforce let partners/wives go up once a year for about a 10 min ride.
Oh, and I have a confession, I can't see me getting the Christmas cards done to you all. :oops: I'm really sorry, so if you haven't done them yet, but are planning on it, feel free to cross me off your list. But I thought I could email you one instead. I know it's not the same as getting one in the post, but it's better than nothing isn't it????? Please still let me hang out with you girls, even though I'm not sending you a card. :oops: (school girl comment there!).
Take care and hope you let me talk to you again soon!
Post by: Jayri on December 10, 2005, 21:13:45 pm
Post by: Judy on December 10, 2005, 22:43:56 pm
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Please still let me hang out with you girls, even though I'm not sending you a card.
I dunno - can we get back to you on this? I think we'll have to take a vote to see if you are in or OUT!! :)
Just kidding of course...
Hayley don't feel bad about the cards - heck I opted out before it started :) I haven't even bought a box of cards for family yet! Not sure if I will or not this year. WE don't even get our family pic taken until a week Monday and I'm not holding my breath waiting for FOUR children to smile... considering the older two hate smiling for pictures especially if they think we WANT them to. :) Should be interesting. I told dh about the appt and he said 'oooh. Is that a good idea this year? Is it worth it?" although to me it is worth it. Even if they are all crying and frowning - it will still be special to have (and funny :))
I'll post one on here when we get them.
Ok now Cole. Young lad, you used to be one of our bestest sleepers here young sir. So what's up hmm? You know my girlfriend's son was suddenly diagnosed with reflux at 8months so maybe it's something to consider. I mean he was such a good sleeper before, going down no problem. What gives? I wonder. I'd limit the daysleep too a bit.. but not too much, don't forget - good sleep begets good sleep. I'd cut out the catnap for sure but leave the other two - I would think 1.5hrs each is still fine - even 1.5 and a 2hr if he gives you that long of sleep. What if you kept him up a bit later - like 7-8pm area? I wouldn't change too much at once though. And whatever you change, try for a few days before giving up and trying something different.
Post by: kq on December 10, 2005, 23:18:38 pm
Hayley, lucky you, a helicopter ride! Should have some nice views today. What is it like over your way today?
Micky, lol about vegemite. It is definitely an acquired taste and I happen to love it! Sam gets a very thin layer on his bread..it is salt loaded so he only gets a smidge. Once those casts are off Jack, I think you will find him making up for lost time!
Nikki, been meaning to say that if you need any gluten free stuff from health shops round Auckland, let me know. I live within walking distance of Ceres and Huckleberry's is just round the corner. I think they both have websites.
Sam slept from 6.30pm to 5am again last night. Found him kneeling and then would not settle back to sleep. I really cannot complain but I hope this does not become his routine.
Off to do cards now.
Karen
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 10, 2005, 23:19:36 pm
Traci--so bummed to hear you're still having sleep issues. Sending you "good-sleep" thoughts.
Well, after my TERRIFIC night last night, Liv has done less than exceptional today...it hasn't been a BAD day, just a little off. (I guess that should be expected after what we did to her last night.) She's only taken 2 45-min naps and is so tired, but is still going, going, going. She's actually pretty happy. Just gets fussy at the usual times (hunger, bored, etc.), but more fussy that usual. So, I think we'll put her down about 30 min early tonight and hope we're back on track tomorrow.
Off to make dinner...hope everyone has a wonderful evening.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 10, 2005, 23:49:42 pm
Karen, thanks for the offer, I have found a few outlets with heaps of products, so we're pretty set I think for now. Re cloth nappies, I don't use anything flash, just flat flannelette and good quality wraps so we don't get any leaks.
Jo, I'm not really a sporty person...but hey the cricket went well huh? :wink:
Traci, things are sounding rough in your house, definitely check him out for something else going on rather than just having a sleep issue.
Still no where near any crawling going on in this house, in fact when we went to coffee group the other day, I picked D up at the end and the carpet had a BIG BUM PRINT on it! LOL :lol: Lot's of talking happenig though, so while her brother was the mover and late talker, she's going to be the talker and late mover.
Sticky, sticky weather here in the last few days and heaps of rain. Ick! Poor D seems to be getting a bit of a sweat rash on her back.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 11, 2005, 00:03:39 am
(Karen, I weaned our safeTsleep about a month ago and I'm so pleased I did, but of course now getting the moving around). Who uses blankets in their lo's beds, or do you all have sleeping bags? I've got to sort out a system, at the mo, we're just down to jammies and singlet at night with a lightweight blanket, but think the blanket needs to go with her moving around now.
Post by: Judy on December 11, 2005, 00:16:20 am
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 11, 2005, 00:17:32 am
Thismorning Daniel woke at 5am ish again, but I left him and I think he slept on and off until 6.30am. I then went to him at 7am. So things are definitely improving. Bed time is now 7pm which is working.
It's hot and sticky here today too. We took Daniel outside while DH was washing the car - absolutely hated the sound of the waterblaster. So brought him back in. Once that was over we took him out again and put him on a blanket, expecting him to be off in no time. Well it's quite funny, it was like he didn't know he could crawl outside. Just sat there! :D I wonder how long that will last. Now he's inside again he's crawling everywhere.
Daniel's due for his next nap just before the helicopter rides start so hopefully I"ll be able to turn up late and get in on one of the last rides.
Better go, D is about to attack my Christmas tree! Oh NO!!!!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 11, 2005, 00:41:15 am
Traci: I hope cole is feeling better. I also agree with the other girls...although I would never have thought of that :roll: even tho Jack has reflux too. As I said before...not too swift sometimes! :lol:
I had to post a pic of Jack having some rice and soya sauce via chopsticks...he's just like arwyn. He'll eat anything that comes from the chopsticks!
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0662.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0663.jpg)
And me playing "Punk Rocker" with him and his faux-hawk
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0661.jpg)
Post by: Colesmom on December 11, 2005, 01:07:08 am
Richelle-giving Cole powder formula and expiry dates have been checked. Nestle Good Start is what I'm using. Don't think it's that because two weeks ago he took 3 oz from a bottle and had no major issues (as far as i remember). I see Sophie is getting 14 hours total sleep. Makes me think I should limit day sleep. His naps started getting better as his nights got worse, so I think he's just making up for lost sleep in the day and I've got a vicious cycle going. Picked up Gripe Water last night and OMG I couldn't put my finger on it but it IS dill. Blech. Had to fight him last night to get it in. Took it okay a couple of times today though. Will look for the other brand-thanks for the tip. Didn't even think of putting it right in his water. DUH!
Hayley-daysleep answered above. Really poor sleep started about a week ago maybe. But we have had good days since then (well, relatively-Monday wasn't bad) I gave him egg yolk for the first time yesterday so right now I am hoping that is the culprit. And not sure if you missed it but I think zucchini was causing him major discomfort. I was giving it every day because I hadn't cooked anything else :oops: Monday was the first day without zucchini and he had a normal night. I'm trying to figure out what happened Tuesday. OMG girls. He had his flu shot on Monday. Could that be it? I've checked for fever every day though and nothing.
As for settling-about 3 weeks ago now I have had to stay with him to settle for every nap and sleep. I used to be able to put him down and he'd cry a few minutes and crash. I can think of two things that may have caused this. 1) I was at a baby shower, put him down for nap and I think he got too upset settling. I thought he had gone to sleep and I heard him 15 minutes later :oops: 2) The last day he had a catnap it ended at 5 and I tried and I had before to put him down at 6. Silly me as he had had two other good naps as well, so over 3 hours day sleep. Again, tried to let him settle too long. In a nutshell he won't let me leave now, he escalates to hysterical sobbing within 1 or 2 minutes. Believe me I have tried. In the night he has settled a couple of times...while I go the washroom etc...certainly wasn't intentional on my part. So yes, I am probably rushing in. He is always standing up when I go in and I'm not even sure he's fully awake :shock: As for clothes, I think he's good there. Maybe I'll try some pants under his grobag but he always feels nice and comfortable-not hot or cold when I pick him up.
Lastly-hope you got in for the helicopter ride! too cool.
Judy-First-yay to hannah for crawling. Interesting comment about reflux at 8 months. i'll see if the huge spills continue. We had another one today after lunch. At dinner I noticed him turning away so I stopped feeding he's done this before and still taken more food. Won't refuse if I put the spoon in front of him :oops: :?
Nikki-LOL at the bum print. hee hee Oh and about readjusting. I feel just horrible here, but if Cole is sleeping I have to admit there is NO way I am going in and risking waking him up. I leave him be. So maybe that could be it. Wonder if he's getting stuck in corners in the middle of the night? He has no trouble moving in his grobag though.
OMG Micky-you posted while I'm typing. What cute pics. I so love the mohawk one. positively adorable.
Today ladies Cole had a 1:15 and 1:00 nap. Nap 2 ended at 1:15 and he fell asleep on the breast at 5:30. ( I tried Judy's trick of extra feed for mini nap but it didn't work) .At 6:15 he woke and I settled him. It's 8:04 and I've heard a couple of shuffles but he hasn't woken. Gave him Gripe before last feed so let's just hope things get better for my little guy.
Again, thank you all soooo much for your help. Where oh where would I be without you all. *insert emoticon with little heart here*
okay, off to do all my "other" cards as DH is off at a poker game tonight.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 11, 2005, 01:09:40 am
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 11, 2005, 01:15:30 am
I was feeding Olivia lunch today and I got ready to give her another bite and all of a sudden she looked at me and put both hands up in the air. I got so excited..."Are you 'all done'?!" I asked and she just smiled really big. I was thrilled. We've been working on signs with her since she turned 6 months. I think she's done "drink" a couple of times, but that was the first "all done." YEAH!!!!
Post by: Jayri on December 11, 2005, 01:16:13 am
Riley is having a majorly hard time going to bed lately. Tonight she WOULD NOT go down without me or my boob.
She is nuts with dh, looks for me and leans to get to me if she is with him, once she gets to me she will not settle unless she is attached to my boob.
I am thinking it is either her teeth or severe attachment problems. She has her bottom two in, but I am wondering if any others could be forming and causing her problems.
I was in tears tonight, holding her, dh wanted to take her for me, but I told him there was no point as I knew what she would do if she went to him...which she did and did exactly what I said she would do.
Sorry I couldn't stick around much for the chat, my days are long now that they start at 6:30am to get everyone ready to go out the door.
Talk to you later hunny's
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 11, 2005, 01:19:21 am
Just a thought but maybe he's going through separation anxiety and is actually needing/wanting you to respond sooner than leaving him to settle for the few minutes it usually takes? I know this could definitely make him wake in the night and want to check that you'll come as well. This is just my opinion, but I think you may need to back track completely and work with him where you're not leaving him by himself. Help him settle through whatever means it takes (but preferably in his own bed, not falling asleep elsewhere and then transferring) where he's not left to settle on his own, then do the gradual method of removal, ie less patting, putting down whatever. If it is separation anxiety, the only way to get past it quicker is to actually respond to it and he'll build his trust through this developmental change within himself, once he's got the confidence, he will let you go again.
D's going through this at the moment and where she used to settle perfectly EVERY TIME - in the last week she's fussed at naptime, I've done a pop in kind of method, I settle her down, give her the blankie, say nigh nighs, leave the room, she'll fuss, I return immediately, and repeat over and over. It's only taking me 10-15mins though, but she doesn't get to the point of being worked up, occasionally I'll need to pick her up for a quick cuddle and put back down.
Anyway, take what you want from that, and I'm sure others may not agree, but whatever method you pick, you need to be compeltely consistent - both you and dh.
Daytime hours sleep: 2.5-3hrs
Nighttime hours sleep: 11-12hrs (depending on whether she's spent an hour chatting during the night)
HTH
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 11, 2005, 01:22:13 am
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 11, 2005, 01:40:08 am
He's really struggling to just lie still now. Both naps today have taken a long time for him to settle. We're going on 40mins now. He was ALWAYS so good at settling within about 5 mins, usually didn't ever hear him. Now he's groaning, talking, crawling squizzling (made up word for everything else he's doing)! It's really hot here too which he's not used to, so I can't put him in his sleeping bag. Do I just leave him if he's not too upset? How do I help him learn to settle?
HELP!!!!!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 11, 2005, 02:01:49 am
Rhys said to put him in the buggy and take him down, but I didn't think he'd sleep too well and I wanted him to or it would make the afternoon very long and cranky.
I think I might try to find something I can make a temporary sleeping bag for Daniel with until my good one arrives. Maybe convert an old t-shirt! Okay, a bit strange I know but whatever it takes (within reason) to get him to sleep. I don't want to resort to becoming a prop, but I think a sleeping bag is an okay prop. Do you think?
Post by: becca24 on December 11, 2005, 02:41:54 am
Big cheers for all the new crawlers - Hannah, Sam, Ryan??? i think that is all?? sorry if I forgot anyone.
Karen- Just wondering about what you said about 'going with the flow' with night wakings and early mornings and not fighting Sam to go down. Does that mean you are feeding him when he wakes at night? I have been feeding Halle when she wakes hoping she will go back to sleeping through. It is all different times so don't think it's habit. :?
Nancy - Yay for your amazing night out. And for Olivia's signing!! 8)
Traci - Hope you can get to the bottom of Cole's night waking soon :(
Naomi - Hugs for you. I think Ri maybe just wanting some cuddles from Mummy. :)
Hayley - Sorry no advice for Daniel's moving around as Halle is not doing that yet but I just wanted to say LOL at the made up word :lol:
Micky - LOL at the vegemite taste. If my brother and I did not eat our vegetables at tea, our Nan used to make us eat a HEAPED teaspoon of vegemite!! You would think that would put us off but , no, we still eat it.
I cracked up at the pic of Jackson with the mohawk!! I did the exact same thing with Halle in the bath the other day - here is the pic
Post by: Colesmom on December 11, 2005, 03:29:22 am
Hayley-now that he is mobile, maybe try a quieter/longer windown? I have found that works well for naps for Cole. Don't let him crawl around within the last 20 min. of A time. HTH
Nikki-I have only left him 1-2 minutes 1 or 2 times in the last 3 weeks to see if it made any difference. Otherwise I have been going running in knowing that he gets so worked up. Thanks so much for the info though...it is reassuring to know that he'll build up the trust again if I stick with it. I just hope the hand-holding and patting won't become a prop. I try to remove my hands as soon as he's settled, then I just stand there and wait for any jolting. I will be sure to pass along a stern message to DH to let him know we must remain consistent in settling Cole in the crib. If he's not willing/able to do that then I'll have to do all sleep and he can do all the cooking/cleaning etc because I'll be sleeping during both naps :D thanks again, I appreciate you taking the time to read about my issues.
crossing my fingers for a better night
(big hugs naomi) these little ones are really taking it to us eh?
Post by: kq on December 11, 2005, 04:42:14 am
Bec, I do not feed overnight but I do whatever it takes to re settle at night. I did PU/PD one night, patted one night and slept with him on a futon in his room one night. I usually do the paracetamol etc first to make sure he is not in pain. If all else fails, we start again...we walk round the house, look out the window then back into his room, change nappy and wind down again..that has worked. As for early wakings, I get up and just start my day then! (insert yawn emoticon)
Nikki, I am paranoid about Sam getting smothered in bedclothes so I use a 1.0 tog Grobag with a short sleeved body suit or just a t-shirt. I tuck the end of the grobag into the end of the cot which limits movement a bit. No bed clothes, sheets etc. I also re position before I go to bed but with the kneeling, that does not seem to help that.
Hayley, you may need a longer wind down, and with Sam, I needed to pat him till he was calm for a couple of days. Am having to do that again now that he is kneeling and trying to stand otherwise I hear giggling from his room and when I go in, he is usually peering at me between the bars.
Loved the pics Micky. I have steered clear of soya sauce at this stage as mine is salt laden. What brand are you using? Am contemplating getting some Kikkoman.
Ankie, hope all is well.
Traci, sending good sleep vibes your way. <<<Hugs>>> to you and Naomi.
Oh, oh..Sam is raiding the shoe cupboard. Must dash.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 11, 2005, 05:33:05 am
Bec, I have the same issue with Danielle's night waking - it can range from 12.30-4.30. I have been feeding purely because any crying while trying to settle wakes up Nathan, although she has been talking to herself for 1/2hr before I go in there and sometimes a 1/2hr after too which is a pain, cause even though I've fed she doesn't necessarily go straight back to sleep (which means I don't get back to sleep either). Although last night she went straight back to sleep after I fed her. It's strange because she was sleeping through for 2wks. :?
Hayley, I think the sleeping bag as a prop is fine, it's only an issue if YOU are needed to solve the sleep problem (ie replacing a dummy). It's really no different to a blankie or other sort of lovey that a child can grab themselves to help self sooth.
Right, time to get these kids into bed. I'm just shattered and I haven't had any time for study this week since Nathan's given up his nap. :evil:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 11, 2005, 07:02:57 am
Just caught up after 2 days of not checking in. You know you are addicted to the BW site when... you are Christmas shopping and all you can think about is how much time it is taking and you just really want to be surfing the BW site. (Are we still playing? I may have missed the game already! :wink: )
It has been very hard to get ready for the holidays... I only get to the mall after Arwyn is down for the night and that only leaves me at the maximum, 2 hours. I have done ALL the prep and shopping and have unloaded my unhappiness about this on DH but ??? he's male, right? He doesn't understand.
Love the poo stories... gawd, I think I used to be more resistant to poo conversations but now, I can get into them. :) Not so much poo here... Arwyn goes usually once a day, first thing in the morning.
Nights are getting better here but not much. She is down to one waking between 11 pm - 6:30 am. But the stretch from 6 pm to 11 pm is pretty rough... not much "me" time or "DH and me" time happening here. She can wake upwards of 3 or 4 times during this time. At the last one, I will feed her because she is such a poor eater during the day.
Um... what was the other thing... oh... yes... mobility. We have a heck of a time with Arwyn and mobility in her crib. Most of her wakings during the 6-11 stretch is due to "sleep-crawling" and getting stuck. It never used to bother her when she was just rolling around but ever since the rocking on all fours started, it has been quite the journey. I would swear she is still asleep but not happy that she is suddenly on all fours, rocking, sitting or stuck in the corner. Sheesh... will be glad when she figures this mobility thing out!
Well... this little miss is standing. She has stood on her own for several seconds a few times these couple of days. She is pulling up on everything and is learning how to cruise. I have not shown her because I don't want her to cruise yet (mommy is having trouble adjusting to the increased mobility and am desperately trying to slow it down) and would be happy if she just crawled around for a bit longer.
I have attached a pic of Arwyn eating cheese from her chopsticks. It isn't very good... it doesn't show that she actually OPENS her mouth for food from chopsticks as opposed to parting her lips slightly :roll: . I'll have DH take another soon.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 11, 2005, 07:11:17 am
Last night, she woke at 2:45 and I fed her after trying to get her back to sleep for 30 m. Then it took DH an additional 45 minutes before she finally went back to sleep at 4:30!
Traci and others having multiple night wakings for a while now, I hope things are starting to come together. It is just so hard to figure these little ones out!
Post by: james030405 on December 11, 2005, 09:37:58 am
so many pages I haven't had time to catch up I am sorry. I have skimmed through them though.
I have had a lovely weekend. Friday night spent wiht DH at his Christmas party. MIL came and stayed (so did FIL but he is not much help :roll: ) I tell her what james does to go to sleep. I get james up the next morning to find a FULL CUP OF MILK in the fridge :evil: She said he wouldn;t take it. Although he takes his time drinking, he has NEVER not wanted his last bottle of the day. Then I found out she rocked him to sleep. :evil: :roll: Bedtime is usually around 6:45/7pm. 7:30pm on Friday. Why don't they do what you ask? Just because they have beenmothers before, doesn't mean they no best. Sorry for the rant :(
Saturday, I spent having a massage as it is my birthday on Monday (33 :oops: ), then had lunch with friends. Saturday night was spent with other friends having Christmas dinner. :D Great fun. Got home at 1:30am :oops: but no alcohol involved.
The bad thing: James woke at 4am :twisted: I tried and tried to get him back to sleep, but no luck. Finally gave him a bottle at 4:45am when DH brought him in bed and he drank 200ml. He never usually wants any milk as soon as he wakes up. could this be the 9mth growth spurt? He is still eating solids very well, but has been "off" his milk lately. I am thinking of dropping down to 3 milk feeds. Has anyone else done this yet? I have been told by the nurses that at 9mths they often drop down to 3.
I posted Christmas cards on Saturday so hopefully they will find you all. No photos thought I am sorry :oops:
To everyone who is having night sleep problems, I hope they are getting better.
Have a lovely weekend everyone.
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: mickymuscles on December 11, 2005, 14:50:53 pm
all you can think about first thing in the morning is wether or not Traci, Ankie, Holly have had good nights
and when you sneak into the computer room to check the site and you tell DH you are paying bills :roll: :oops:
Okay...have i missed something or have i forgotten a baby but some of you are congrating hannah on crawling.....is there more then one hannah??? The only hannah i could think of was sophies mom. So I certainly hope hannah could crawl, walk , talk, wipe her own bum :), etc.
If there is a hannah baby i'm sorry i've forgotten. :oops:
Happy Birthday Lisa!!!! My B-day is in a week...32!!! UUUGHHH!!! :x
Post by: Erin M on December 11, 2005, 15:51:26 pm
Happy early birthday Lisa! Sounds like a lovely weekend despite the lack of good sleeps.
Ankie - sounds like that kid has really been putting you through the ringer the past few weeks. Glad to hear you seem to be headed in the right direction. And YAY for the cruising (even if you don't want her doing it yet). Katie is so content to just drag herself around the floor and shows no interest in standing right now.
Nikki - Hope you find some time for studying. Does Nathan sleep any better at night since giving up his nap? I can totally understand feeding Danielle back to sleep so Nathan doesn't wake up.
Hayley - I agree with Nikki on the grobag/sleep sack/whatever you call it. I had to swaddle Katie straight through the beginning of the summer b/c it was the only way she would sleep, but eventually we stopped.
We had a very nice Christmas-y day yesterday - spent much of it at the mall doing some shopping, went and got some Christmas lights (which DH then broke :roll: ) and just generally had a nice time. It amazes me, just a few months ago I never would have thought I could have taken Katie out almost all day, but she was so good. Exciting!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 11, 2005, 16:01:09 pm
Post by: Judy on December 11, 2005, 16:26:00 pm
Naomi I wonder if it has to do with your start back to work. A big change for Ri and new sitter too. Seperation anxiety takes lot of patience and time to work through.
Post by: Colesmom on December 11, 2005, 16:32:16 pm
Lisa-was the 4am waking after the night with no bottle? or the day after? with regards to him being off his milk...I can totally relate and I'm thinking this might be the issue with Cole.
Not sure if it's due to his teeth making their way through...but he is just not interested in his 10am and 2pm feeds. I read up on self-weaning and he does one of the examples...drinks a lot for a couple of minutes and then pulls off and doesn't want more. The last couple of days I haven't been able to pump much but this morning 45 min. after feed I pumped 4 ounces! Holy smokes girls...could he just be hungry??? He is only interested in about 6 tbsp of food too. so I'm not sure if maybe there is late onset reflux and anything more is troubling his tummy, or if it's teeth.
Anyway, I plan on just feeding him in little spurts for a couple of days to see if the increased calories help his sleep.
Our night was semi-crummy. He woke quite often but I settled him each time in his crib. His longest stretch was 5:30-8:45 with one brief waking and 10:15-12:15 and then maybe up every hour with 10 min. to settle, then up for the day at 4:10 am. He did go to sleep at 5:30 sooooo, I figured it was almost 11 hours :? Now we're all screwed up because I told DH to keep him up until 8 to get him back on track to try for a 6-6:30 bedtime. He fell asleep in his arms from 7-7:45 :evil: :twisted: so now he's down for nap 2 at 11:15 and I fed him to sleep :oops:
He took 1oz of the EBM in his sippy but I had put 2oz into cereal of which he only ate a little bit :cry: Okay-enough of my rambling. I'm hoping to figure this out.
Naomi-when Riley self weaned...was it the daytime feeds? Did she take the bottle okay?
I think I may have to leave the house for a day so DH can get him on the bottle. I just don't see him taking 6-8 oz from a sippy. Unless I go buy a huge range of cups to try. *sigh*
we had to cancel a brunch today too because of the messed up sleep. oh well.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 11, 2005, 17:15:18 pm
Nikki: I always find Carter in the same position as I put him in. Occassionally he is turned all the way around but he is still lying in the middle on his back. He really isn't very active ... even when I was pregnant, I would only feel him move 4-5 times a DAY!!
Micky: I love the mohawk!! We used to do that all the time with Carter but now his hair is too long and it looks funny cause it curls over :roll: WHen are we supposed to get their hair cut? Anyone had a hair cut yet for their lo? My hairdresser recommends waiting until 1 year but if it's long ... ??? Also, I just noticed that Carter and Jack were born on the same day!! Was that your original due date? What time of the day was he born? Carter was "due" on the 27th but I had him at 5:30pm on the 29th.
Traci: Hugs to you and all the sleep issues. We had about 3 weeks of horrible sleep (night wakings, short naps etc) when Carter was 7 months old. Finally, after trying desperately to figure out what was worng, I just gave in. What I mean is, when he would wake early I would go in and be all upset because I knew that I would spend 45 mins in his room trying to get him to go back to sleep, bent over his crib in horrible positions and it wouldn't work. So, I started going in and as cheerily as I could muster I would just say "Good job Handsome, good sleep, let's go play". Then I would pick him up, cuddle him and take him out of his room. It took only 2 days and his naps were back on track. He went down with no problem and slept for an hour and a half. I think when he woke early he would be upset because he wanted to go back to sleep but he was afraid cause he knew I was coming in to try and get him back to sleep which would make him more upset. Once he realized there was no "pressure" to go back to sleep he just slept ... I don't know if this makes sense. I don't even know if this fits your situation at all. I alwasy compared it to my job. If I did something wrong and my boss would always be mad then I would be anxious about when I would see him. But if he came in one day and just said "that's okay, better luck next time" I wouldn't be so worried ... KWIM?? I did the same thing at nights. I would go in and feed him instead of doing pu/pd and he just stopped waking. It was like a battle of wills. He knew that if he needed food then he could get it when he woke, otherwise he could just go back to sleep. Sorry for the rambling ... Cole is a good little guy and you will make it all better in no time, I'm sure of it. I always used to think there was something "wrong" with Carter and that's why his sleep was messed up (ie teeth, colds, developmental) and when DH finally said "Maybe that's just the way he is now, maybe there is nothing wrong" that's when things got better. WHo knows with these babies eh??? Good luck all the same! :)
As for day sleep, Carter's naps total 2.5-3hrs and nighttime is 10-10.5hrs.
Ok, off to boob feed my baby!!!
Have a good day!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 11, 2005, 17:41:16 pm
Bummer about the chat Friday night everybody kept getting booted off and had a hard time getting back on. I think I mentioned during the chat that dh was all excited when I got booted and the site froze. He said "does that mean you have time for a quickie?" :) :roll:
All of you ladies have been giving the most wonderful sleep advice/info/support. I have really been enjoying reading the problems and the possible solutions. It is helping me too!
We have had REALLY hard second naps here. Yesterday, we had a bday party for Brendan at 3. I planned it at 3 so that hse would be up from her seciond nap, or about to be up. Welllllll....she was up, but not after her second nap, she was still up from her morning nap! She never took a second nap until 4pm! Argh. While I was dealing with her, doing pu/pd etc. etc. I was reading posts. (Kinda reminded me of you girls who said you were holding the crying baby in one hand and the BW book in the other.) I was getting so frustrated with her for not conforming to MY schedule and what I needed her to do. Anyhow, I read your post Nkki about Sep. Anxiety and it helped me a lot. I softened my approach. I basically just decided to think of it as "bonus" time for her and mommy...we came downstairs and snuggled while Brendan and dh watched School House Rock. She was very good natured during the party and went down for a nap during the party...with a little fuss but she was definately tired enough to go to sleep pretty fast.
I have to mention it was nice to have MIL here. Now that she has taken care of Sophie so much, she is really starting to "know" her and it was so cool to have another person besides myself and dh look at the clock and sat "Oh my she hasn't had her second nap yet?! Hmm I wonder what's up...Oh look at her eyes she is so tired..." She was totally in tune with Sophie's schedule and cues. This seriously warmed my heart. :)
She is BTW totally crawling all over the crib and I think she must be a bit like Nathan...Nikki because she seems to be ok sometimes to just crawl around for a bit before she falls asleep....sometimes. Like I said before, I think sometimes I screw it up by going in when I shouldn't because I feel like it's taking her too long to wind down and I want her to be sleeping. How long would you let him crawl around before going in? Or did you just leave him if he wasn't fussy? I have tried to sort of immobilize her a little...kind of a la BW when she takes about holding there legs/arms (or swadling) to help them settle. That just really es her off now. SO....hmmm....
A little dh rave, then I gotta go do some lesson plans...this morning I asked him to go make a bottle and he DIDN'T EVEN ask me how many ounces? I was absolutely shocked. And you know, it was funny he only made a 6oz bottle whereas I would have made 8...and guess what, she only ate about 6. I have to try to trust his instincts a little more.
Oh yeah, one more thing, and than I will wrap up the novela. Yesterday when I went for my run dh watched baby einstein (we need an acronym for that :))...be? Anyhow, When I got home she was down for a nap and I asked him, did you wtach be? He said yes but she had only watched about half (uh-huh...surrrrreee...he was just saving it as an option for later knowing full well that I only like her to watch it once a day if at all) So anyway, later after she was up, I got out nof the shower and I heard...yup you guessed it, BE...so I said, "You're wathcing BE again?" And he says "Yup, but this time we are watching it in FRENCH"...all proud papa-like...and I am like "Oh! Cool!" And then it dawns on me that I am sooo gullible. I only want her to wtach it once a day BUT if she's learning another language, well that's a whole differet story. Does dh know me well or what?
OK, enough already.
Later
Hannah
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 11, 2005, 18:35:18 pm
Yes, I used to just leave Nathan as long as it took for him to crawl around (unless he started to get really grumpy, a little fussing I didn't mind, but generally it would esculate anyway, so I generally went in right away because waiting made no difference), then I'd go in lie him down, say nigh nigh's and leave and repeat if grumpy, but if he was ok I'd leave him. Generally I found though, he'd have a big crawl around session for 20mins, then would get grumpy and at that point was actually tired, so that's when I needed to do the pd over and over if needed. But often he'd just need a quick resettle and he'd be off to sleep. I think what I used to try and do to keep the actual "sleep" time back on track, was take him to his room a little earlier (since he was on timed naps), put him in bed 20mins before I knew he'd be ready for sleep, so by the time he roamed around he was tired "on time". Maybe that could be worth a try, of course it could backfire and she might not buy it...
Unfortunately Nathan doesn't sleep longer or better at night without his nap (infact it's still true I think - sleep begets sleep) - so he's going to bed overtired which causes him to wake a million times (nightmares, terrors). Judy, how do you get on in your house with Sarah not napping, I take it she still sleeps well at night? How many hours does she do now?
Back to the Monday grind here... :)
Post by: Richelle on December 11, 2005, 18:58:20 pm
I thought I would post a couple pic's as I am loading them onto to my mom's computer.
Nancy - Speaking of chubby babies, check out Sophie's 'bubbies', we weren't even at a topless beach!! :wink:
Post by: becca24 on December 11, 2005, 22:16:12 pm
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LISA !!
Great photo's everyone I love seeing all the pics. Richelle that beach shot followed by the snow shot is just so funny. I can't imagine how cold that must be. brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I hate cold!! :shock:
Well, I can't work this little girl out at all !! Yesterday we had no routine at all because we had to go chrissy shopping. So her morning nap was about 20min in the car. Then when she would normally have had a BF, DH gave her some yogurt instead while I shopped. Shopping for a few hours then 10 min nap in the car on the way home. Then she had a BF instead of lunch :roll: Took an unheard of 2 hour nap at 1pm :D Up at 3pm for BF. Then we walked down to the pub for DH cricket team chrissy party/Mum's staff chrissy party. Ate a little bit of vege's for tea at the pub. Walk home, really overtired by this stage. I manage to drag her out to 6.15 for bath, bf, bed. Slept from 6.50pm to 5.30am without a peep :shock: :shock: :? Maybe 'going with the flow' is the way to go?
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 11, 2005, 22:50:58 pm
Post by: becca24 on December 11, 2005, 22:58:15 pm
Post by: james030405 on December 11, 2005, 23:26:38 pm
Traci: could coles problems be formula related ie. could he be needing a formula that is for lactose intolerance. I know we are able to get it here in Australia. I think there are even ones based on soy. could he been allergic to cows milk? Just a thought. sorry if you have already covered this base. In regards to James 4:00am wake up, he didn't have his bottle on the Friday night and the early waking was on the sunday. I think it may have just been having too much stimulation with the inlaws here etc. Will have to watch him over Christmas. today was 5:30am so a little better - didn;t get him up till 5:50am.
Becca, I know what you mean about "going with the flow". I try and keep as close to our routine as possible, but on the days we are unable to, I also find they seem to go pretty well. Great photos too.
Well, must go. Should be doing housework, but don't think I will as it is my birthday :lol:
Have a good day/night everyone.
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: FrasersMum on December 12, 2005, 00:30:14 am
Hope you have a great day!!
Hi to everyone else - I am at work so I can't do a long post. Just wanted to let you all know that I haven't quite gotten around to those Christmas cards yet but I am going to - hoping to post them tomorrow or Wednesday. They might be late but they will come I promise!!
Speak to you all soon
Post by: Colesmom on December 12, 2005, 00:33:08 am
Lisa-Happy Belated :oops: No housework for you!
Nancy-I've posted twice since your exciting news about the "all done" sign. So cool-yay Olivia!
Richelle-Found the Kolik brand Gripe. Thank you so much. That dill crap is nasty!
Bec-we had a very "go with the flow" day today too. Early 45 min. nap, early 1:20 nap then up from 12:15 until 6:25 bed. That means he was up for over 14 hours. Fed him in the CAR a couple of times, BF and oatmeal and sippy cup. He fought me a bit for bed for 25 min. but surprisingly no crying just thrashing around trying to get comfy and forgetting the day.
Thankfully Cole had a decent size poo today and actually mushy this time. Yes, more poo talk. I am really hoping this means that he is feeling better. Lisa-thanks for the idea about the formula. He has taken it before without ill effects so I'm not sure it's that. Gave him oatmeal with apple and cinnamon today so maybe that got him moving. He also drank a lot of water today too.
Okay, after a couple of DH rants I must do a rave. Today we spent the afternoon labelling, organizing and delivering 63 gifts and a few hundred dollars in gift cards for a needy family. DH suggested that instead of Secret Santa this year his department participate in Adopt A Family. Their family was a 23 year old woman with a 5 year old boy and 3 year old girl. I so wish I could be there to see their little faces on christmas morning. I am so proud of DH for implementing and organizing this event :) He ended up writing the
charitable organization a note saying they could redistribute some of the gifts to other families if necessary. He looked at the drop off sheet and some families only got 2 or 3 gifts. The next highest number was 31. Not that it's about quantity...but I guess DH didn't know the type of response he'd get. They are usually pretty cheap people and the reason he didn't want secret santa. he usually gets something that goes straight in the garbage. Okay, so that's my Rave :lol:
Cathy-interesting ideas about the battle of wills. I'll see how it goes tonight and maybe feed him when I normally wouldn't. Thankfully he is doing great for naps. I have to stay with him to settle but he is often doing 1:00-1:30 for both naps (exception this morning in DHs arms)
okay, off to enjoy the evening (hopefully-all body parts crossed). Putting on chrissie music, DH is doing the tree and i'm finishing the cards.
good night.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 12, 2005, 00:59:27 am
And now I can hear Daniel. Oh double pooh!!!
Well, my short version is a great night here last night, and Daniel's settling better today for naps due to it being a little bit cooler and going straight into his sleeping bag.
I love all the photos that have been posted.
Cathy, as for the haircut comment from your hairdresser.... strange, surely you'd cut any babies here when it's needed???!!!!
Better go. Bye everyone.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 12, 2005, 02:03:42 am
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 12, 2005, 02:45:19 am
I'll do it again but this time not include the pictures that I was sending. I was so pleased with how it turned out I wanted to show you. I'll try to reduce the size right down but if it doesn't work I'll just send you a message.
My heart rate has slowed again now and back to normal. :shock:
Post by: B&BMommy on December 12, 2005, 03:02:51 am
So as I mentioned our weekend has been rough. Brady isn't sleeping AT ALL AGAIN! :cry: We are back to where we began with no sleep at all. I have an exhausted little boy who is also very sick with a chest cold and is having a very difficult time. I have no idea where this cold came from either, he has a head cold as you know a couple of weeks ago, but this chest thing came out of nowhere. And its hit him hard....not sure if that is the reason for our huge setback, but I am once again going on about 3 hours in total since Friday, no lie! :shock: :cry:
I don't know what to do. We took Brady to a walk in clinic today cause it had got to the point where we didn't know what to do, hated the dr on call, I usually do at walk ins, but she was abrupt, and fluffed us off, and I had to ASK her to listen to his chest, can you believe it...she only asked if he was running a fever etc, and then almost walked out....again asking her to look in his ears, throat and chest....what an idiot she was. Anway, I'm going to call our PED tomorrow anyway and get it, they are always good and see us right away, so that is probably best, but I was worried and got nowhere with this on call doctor. Also to top it off, Brady is refusing to nurse, (which is not good for my milk supply since its already drying up) I can't seem to get much when I pump, and he won't take a bottle, and he's not eating cereal, he will eat applesauce and bananas though so thats all I can seem to get him to eat these days, no water, no liquids. all day yesterday he drank a total of 6 oz in 24 hours, today about the same, and this sh*t of a dr, wasn't concerned at all..... :roll:
Sorry for the long vent, just exhausted here and so worried about my precious little boy....
Again will get caught up on all of you soon. Also attempting my Christmas cards to all of you this week as well. Here's hoping! :!:
Hugs to you all and your lo's
Holly - Mom of Brady - Our Touchy/Spirited/Textbook Little Boy - Born March 20 2005
Post by: Colesmom on December 12, 2005, 03:25:12 am
Holly-not enough hugs to send your way. So so sorry for your weekend. And to think I nearly called you last night to discuss reflux. I really don't know what's going on with my little guy either but I hope it's sep. anxiety. I'm sure your setback is due to the cold. Sounds just awful. Please please use your spare time to rest. Don't worry about getting caught up with us...just jump back in when you can. You need your rest for your supply too...please don't forget that. I'm sending you all the sleep and get well vibes I can. Hope you get in with your ped tomorrow. Take care hon.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 12, 2005, 04:31:26 am
Post by: BiancaB on December 12, 2005, 08:25:08 am
Thanks for the compliments on Si Si's pics an age ago...
Nikki- I feel your pain re Nathan's no nap stage..Ky went through it a few months back and it was agony..YES OVERTIRED TODDLERS are just as painful as overtired babies!! The night wakings seemed to never end.
But good news I just kept on with the same bedtime and naptime routine and he went back to his 2 hr nap at midday again!! So here is hoping for Nathan too..I hear that they should be still taking 1 nap a day right up until 4 yrs!!! Maybe that is wishful thinking, but when the 2 of them are both down at the same time, it is like a little piece of heaven on some days if you know what I mean :wink:
Sienna is not as mobile as some of the other bubs on this board I think she wants to by pass the whole crawling thing and just get up one day and run!
Take care everyone and enjoy the holidays :D
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 12, 2005, 08:55:13 am
Thanks for that about Nathan, well today was an improvement and I had him back in his room for a nap and he went down for it, so it definitely made for a more pleasant day - here's hoping for a better night since last night was a mess because of ovetiredness.
So I managed to get some study done too! :D
Danielle's not a mover either, so will be interesting when and how she ends up on the move.
Any tips for those with 2 or more ( :wink: ) on how to not let the younger one start to feel like the victim? I noticed today that every time Nathan took a toy off D, she'd turn around and look for me and cry. I have been asking Nathan to find a replacement toy for her if he wants what she's got, but now have been not letting him take her toy since she's protesting about it. I know I need to do a little more role-modelling there. But do I risk her acting the "victim" by always telling him off? Any ideas on how to approach this?
Post by: Colesmom on December 12, 2005, 14:33:25 pm
Just wanted to ask if you posted your question over on the Toddler board? you might get loads of suggestions over there. I'm sure Judy and Naomi will have something to say and hopefully Bianca might be back too. good luck.
Ladies and little ones, for those of you waiting to hear the continuing saga of Cole and his night time woes....here it is!
Our night was better! Of course it is all relative. I'm not holding my breath waiting for him to magically sleep through :wink:
6:25 down after 25 min. of thrashing about after 14 hours up for day
9:20 yes-you heard it, 3 hours of continuous sleep, fed
10:00 woke-settled and stayed until 10:15
1:30-yes, another few hours, yippee, fed (trying Cathy's method here)
4:40- YES, another few hours, yippee again. fed, wouldn't go back down. fed again at 5:20, wouldn't go back down. Tried something different. Out of grobag, change of diaper, play a few minutes then I thought I saw some eye rubbing. Did nap windown and was hoping he'd go back down from 5:45-6:30 but he didn't. oh well. Would you believe I put on some jazz chrissie music and had a nice time folding laundry at 6am :roll:
Got DH out of bed at 6:30, said very firmly to keep him up until 7:45 or 8:00. At 8:00 Cole comes CRAWLING into the room bright eyed and bushy-tailed. :roll: guess DH doesn't get it at all. He was down at 8:15am up at 9:00, extended and still sleeping and it's 9:30.
things are improving. I am staying consistent...well, at least not holding him to sleep. I admit the 1:30 feeding to sleep is cheating but he took a good feed so I'm thinking until I can figure out how to get him to eat better at 10 and 2 then this is what I'll have to do for now.
okay, got a few minutes of ME time until he gets up. Gotta get out today and run some errands so I need to prepare for that.
Have a good one ladies.
Post by: Judy on December 12, 2005, 14:37:53 pm
Here's what I'm finding... both girls are up early because they hear K&H crying around 6am and they are in a light enough sleep at this point to wake up... and have had enough sleep to stay up but not enough to be well rested. So then it's a struggle to keep them awake that day.
When Chris was away the other week I found on days Zoe napped (even 1.5-2hrs she STILL went to bed ok at 8.30) and Sarah too so long as no one else was here or awake (so Grandma was downstairs with lights out).
SO - I think they COULD use the naps BUT with daddy coming home at suppertime it's fresh and new and exciting and supports that second wind and they just get all wriled up and go go go and sleep is a lost cause. Which is why we try to avoid naps.
Last night Sarah went to bed at 5pm and covered herself right up so we couldn't find her. In fact I was next to her bed thinking "gee I thought for sure she came in here" and walked away touching the blankets and heard a little "heeeey!!!". Anyway I couldn't get her to get up so I left her hoping she'd sleep all night. Well no she slept 1.5hrs from 5-6.30pm - how much worse could it be? BUT daddy'd been home all weekend and he has a cold so he was in bed at 8.45pm as was everyone else but me. So I put her down at 9pm and at 9.10pm I heard her calling me so I just took her to our bed and went to bed myself. I could have tucked her back in but I hate getting up once I'm in bed - anyway she went right to sleep.
Am I making any sense? Point is - daddy's the problem ;) because he's too fun ;) She's actually gone and put herself back to bed now at 9.30am and if she sleeps this is a good time really. I should try to bring back the naps for morning only but I just know these girls and if it's MY suggestion there's NO WAY they'll sleep. If I say I don't want them to sleep then they argue they WANT to go to sleep. It's just plain silly really :)
But I find it impossible to do somethings... like go through all the Christmas gifts to see if I've covered everything - when??? They just follow me around and that wouldn't be so good!! :)
Post by: kate585 on December 12, 2005, 14:54:12 pm
Let's see if I can do this without notes:
Happy B-Day, Lisa and Brendan!
Big (((hugs))) to you, Holly! I'm sure it's the cold. My friend (who has a 13 mo. old) said all her dd would do for a week while sick was watch Barney videos (which they didn't own, but ran out to the video store to rent when they stumbled onto it on public tv) and eat Kix and Cheerios and drink apple juice (which she usually isn't allowed to drink). So, I guess I'm saying, do what ya gotta do until he's better and don't be too stressed about it.
Yikes! Went down to check what else and Judy and Traci posted! Man, are we busy ladies!
Traci, glad your night was better!
Judy, as always, you rule!
Now I've forgotten who asked :oops: , but we have given Ryan a haircut (you saw the disastrous results) and yesterday took him for his first professional cut. I've included a picture. He LOVED the firetruck and did really well. His favorite part was the clippers. She actually let him hold them and feel them buzzing. Good lesson, I would have said, No, Ryan, they can hurt you. MUST RELAX!!!
I have a pretty big rant about this weekend, but Ryan has been so lovely and having fun exploring up here while I get caught up, I must go play before his nap and will be back later. :D
Post by: kate585 on December 12, 2005, 15:44:48 pm
LONG POST WARNING!!!
So, dh and I decided that after 3 weeks (or so) of sleep issues and all our success, we should have a night out and, therefore, a sleepover for Ryan at mil's. He had actually been sleeping through again for 3 nights, so I wasn't too worried. She has been doing pu/pd during his naps while babysitting, so I knew she could keep it up. Ryan did beautifully and slept through the night until 7:50 or so. Hooray!
Here's where the crap part comes in: She gave him his bottle at 8:45 (I usually feed soon as his diaper's changed). That's when I called to tell her we'd be over to pick him up. Didn't mention breakfast (solids) as I was a bit confused with the late bottle and she gives him breakfast 2 days a week, so I thought she'd know to give it to him. (You know what they say about assuming, right? :? ) Well, we picked him up and got him in the car and wanted to get him home so he could take his nap, then be ready to take him 9 month portraits at noon. We called to double check that they had given him breakfast and they said no. :shock: So, the kid had a bottle an hour after getting up and no solids. Of course he fell asleep on the ride home. Do we wake him up to feed him? Keep him asleep and just push the solids back to lunch, snack, and dinner? Ugggh!
We decide to put him straight into bed (he usually has no problem going back to sleep). He crawled around a bit, then started fussing about 20mins. later b/c he had a stinky diaper (are you shocked? :lol: ). Thought he was probably hungry, too, so we fed him then back to bed. Well, he was wide awake by now and not wanting to sleep. So, he's had about 10 mins. of sleep by 11 am! Did pu/pd, nothin'. Decided to just get him up and take him for his photos, but he just kept crying, so we cancelled :( . Finally got him to sleep with a bit of cuddles and a sip of the boob :oops: . Then, I was crying, b/c we'd worked so hard...blah, blah, blah!
I decided to wake him up at noon to try to keep him on track. We went for his haircut, put down for nap at 2:30 and he wouldn't sleep again! Soooo tired at this point. Finally, I was crying and dh came in. I said, "Leave. You'll just screw it up." :oops: He said, "I don't think it could get more screwed up. Go take a break." (Ryan had been screaming for about 45 mins. at this point. That sounds rude, but it was said in a loving tone of voice, kwim?). So, I went into the other room, and dh settled him in about 5 mins.! I was sure he had rocked him to sleep, but he did pu/pd and then sort of held him down (like someone mentioned above)! Dh has never done this before!!! :D
Ryan went to sleep for a whole 35 mins. :evil: But, I got to get a bit of shopping done and cool off. I had a party last night and I was worried to leave, but dh put him down...not too much trouble and was up a couple of times between 7 and 10 and settled himself, but then he slept through!
I was so sure we'd screwed up his sleep. And, he just went down for his first nap without a peep!!! MUST RELAX! One day will not mess up his schedule. (I should have thought of Liv and Carter and all the other stories you've told me, but was too screwy Louie at the time!)
Okay, feel much better now. I was so annoyed with mil yesterday, but it was my fault for not being more clear with directions. She really is great! We're off for the pictures today, so no big loss. And, actually, he really needed his haircut before the pictures, so maybe this was a blessing in disguise. :D
Thanks for reading this far, girls! Happy Monday!!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 12, 2005, 16:19:36 pm
Happy Birthday LISA and BRENDAN!!
Yeah, ERIN for getting out and about and all going well.
TRACI--so sorry you're having sleep issues, but I'm so glad last night was better. I hope it continues to get better for you. And way to go to DH for organinzing such a cool Christmas blessing for a family in need.
CATHY--Yeah for Carter!!
RICHELLE--great pics! Sophie is just adorable, and her rolls look just like Liv's. Love the bubbie shot!!
HOLLY--I'm so sorry Brady is sick. Liv was sick a few weeks ago and refused to eat as well. I just tried to get as many liquids in her as she would take. She would only eat 2-3 oz at a time, so I offered more bottle feedings (every 2-3) hours, hoping to get enough liquids in her. As soon as she got over her cold her appetite and eating schedule returned to normal.
KATE--Cute haircut pic! Sorry about your rough day...I know exactly how you feel. DH laughs at me b/c he says if we have one rough day I automatically go to, "All of our hard work is down the tubes and she's never going to sleep again!!!!" Whereas, he just takes the approach of, "Hey, we're having an off day. We have to get through this, then things will get better." And he's usually right. So hang in there...get through this one rough day, and things will get better.
Well, it looks like we've managed to drop the dreamfeed completely now. Last Thursday, I went in to give her 3 oz at 9:30 and she completely refused it. Was so tired, she wouldn't even open her mouth. So I just put her back to bed and she slept the whole night. Friday was our late night, so she didn't get her bedtime bottle until 9:00, so no dreamfeed that night. But Saturday and last night both, we've skipped the dreamfeed and she's slept straight through. It's a little bittersweet, though. It's nice to not have to stay up for it or plan our evenings around it anymore. But DH and I will miss that time of just feeding her in her sleep. It's such a sweet time. I guess this is just the beginning of the bittersweet moments. I suppose parenthood is full of them.
Liv's down for a nap, so I'm off to shower. I have to go to the dentist this afternoon. YUCK!!! Check in with you girls later.
Post by: Judy on December 12, 2005, 16:25:33 pm
Speaking of ponies - I see Jody's got the M&M's in ponies!! TOO CUTE!!! :)
As for solids - :oops: I'm really bad - yesterday as I said we went to the mall and I didn't bother with lunch for K&H (well for Z&S) either. Isn't that awful. We had a big breakfast so I knew the older two would be fine and I brought along bananas.. but as for K&H well - I figure there's so many times they don't want to eat well - they'll be fine right ? :oops: And they seemed to be. AND they ate a good supper! :)
Poor Kaia her top tooth is coming but taking so long. Gee it is SO swollen it looks like a fat lip when she smiles. :(
Our nights are still good but the days start too early... 5-5.30 someone is awake already!!!
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 12, 2005, 17:01:51 pm
Anyway, congrats to all those who had good nights (Yeah Olivia - no DF!!) and hugs to those who didn't.
If anyone has suggestions as to what I can safely take (while bf'ing) to help with this cold I would really appreciate it. I don't even have Tylenol in the house to help with the headache :(
Talk to you all later
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 12, 2005, 17:18:45 pm
I also have been meaning to ask...how do you guys post those pictures? I know someone explained it once, but I think it might have bee in the last thread. I know it involves a web site, but I don't remember what it's called. Can someone help me out? I was wanting to put up some pics of us.
Well, munchkin is up after only 45 min. :x Gotta run.
Post by: Colesmom on December 12, 2005, 18:22:56 pm
(((big hugs cathy))) sorry, don't know what to take either....maybe call your doc?
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 12, 2005, 20:24:19 pm
Kate, that fire engine photo is soooo cute, he looks soooo old.
OK, back later....
Post by: Judy on December 12, 2005, 20:43:02 pm
Do you have DORA there? Ok - Sarah is a walking DORA show and if the little girls have a toy in comes 'swiper' and steals it away "you'll never find it now! HAAAA HAAAA!" and then she tosses it. They don't get too upset yet because they're more interested in HER being there at the moment. But it won't be long - Kaia already gets a broken heart if Hannah takes her toy.
Generally I let them lead - so if they cry then I tell Sarah she needs to give the toy back. I try to get her to be responsible for it somewhat but helping obviously. So I might say "oh no sounds like Kaia is sad and wants her toy back. Can you give it back? Here Kaia here's your toy" and hope she gives it back if not I might "help" her give it back or find something different for Kaia. Both older girls have a couple 'special' toys that they always get if they want them and someone else has them so I have a few like that for K&H too and generally Z&S 'get' this... else I ask Sarah if Kaia could have 'x' toy which just might be one of her special toys. I would never take it and give it to Kaia but asking often gets the original toy given back.
I understand what you are saying... I kinda look at it as they had it so if they want it back that's fair. I tell the older girls to ask each other but if they don't get the item back then they can ask me for help and I will help them. Maybe it will/does make them a bit of a victim??? Not sure. I'm trying to avoid the hair pulling/hitting/kicking to get it themselves. When they look to me and start a big cry I just calmly say "it's ok -we'll get it. It can possibly go too far in the house" and then work to get the other girl to give the toy/item back (say if it's between Z & S) If I don't swoop in but hold back just long enough to help the sad one calm down they seem to realize it doesn't have to be the end of the world - it WILL get straightened out right away and they don't HAVE to scream to get my help.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 12, 2005, 21:15:19 pm
Sorry girls, back to babies. :wink:
Post by: Richelle on December 12, 2005, 21:29:32 pm
I have been trying to keep up but it has been bust over here now that it isn't minus 900!! Lots of visiting ect...
Sophie has been really good and becoming a little dynamo. Sh eis not even complteley mobile yet and I am already a little bit :shock: ! Anyone else's LO's doing 'downward facing dog' yoga position? She keeps doing that today, what a weirdo.
Nikki - One of my friends has a 13 month old that was visiting with us yesterday and anytime Sophie picked up a toy Ella would rip it out of her hand, mostly Sophie was just confused but it made me wonder what I would do if it was all the time or a sibling. Good luck with the naps and the toys!
TRaci - good to know that the night's have semi-improved. Hopefully it will get worked out soon!! AND THANKS SO MUCH for putting that list together for the christmas cards, it is great and saved a whole lot of time for me anyway!! I will give you a call from my hotel in Toronto tomorrow, I land at 4ish and knnow that it an akward time for you and Cole not to mention it is a crazy time of year ect... but I will call to have a LIVE :wink: chat!
I forget who asked about the lapping of the crib but Sophie makes a few rounds in the evening and I always go put back in the middle before going to bed but she is still usually smuched up in the bottom or top in the morning! I will post a pic of her having a nap on my little brother's bed the other day, :shock: !
I am obviously beginning my 2 day journey back home tomorrow :? and am arriving home to a new home that hopefully is slightly unpacked!!
Later...
Post by: Judy on December 12, 2005, 21:48:10 pm
Quote from: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle
"oh danielle, you'd like your toy back? Here, let's ask Nathan if he can pass it back please "Nathan can I have my toy please?" "Thank you Nathan" - is that going a bit far with giving Danielle all that dialogue? ...
I guess I'm working through my own stuff from childhood here!
Actually I think that's the perfect way to approach it. It's modelling for Danielle and sure it will be a LONG time before she's able to do the same but it's execellent problem solving. So hopefully in the long run it isn't you referring so much and sticking up for the younger sibling but rather you coaching/guiding them in problem solving. You know now that he snatched the toy so you're really just helping justice be done so to speak ;) I try (although so HARD) to encourage my girls to problem solve when I've not been there to see what happened. I want to get away from "what happened" to "how can we solve it from here?" but it's so easy to just blame the older child isn't it?
And yes isn't it so much about our own childhood??
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 12, 2005, 22:42:37 pm
OMG Richelle, that photo is priceless! :lol: :lol:
Post by: james030405 on December 12, 2005, 23:48:56 pm
Sunday 4am
Monday 5:30am
Tuesday (today) 6:30am
I don't get him up for about 20mins after he is awake. I am not doing anything different. I tried to keep to our routine today by putting him down at 9am, but I think it was a little early. He fought me for about 15min and usually he goes down without any help for this nap. I guess you should always trust your own instincts because I told myself to put him down at 9:15am and that is when he fell asleep. When will we learn?
:roll:
Traci: glad your night had a slight improvement. I hope it continues.
cathy: I hope you get better. Can DH help out?
Anway, James is up and we are going swimming today. Hope everyone has a better day/night.
Anwyn: by the looks of your highchair, we have the same one. :D
Talk soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: becca24 on December 12, 2005, 23:49:12 pm
First I have to tell you this. It's DH birthday today and I got him a present the other day. So this morning I gave him a card from Halle. On the front it says - Happy Birthday Daddy from your Little Princess. Inside it says - Of all the Daddies in all the lands that there could ever be, my daddy's the best I love him so...He means so much to me!! I got Halle to hand it to him, he opened it up and got big tears in his eyes :o It was sooooo cute!!!
:?: Is anyone worried about Christmas parties/lunches etc and what to do with your lo?? I have chrissy lunch at my father's with his family on 24th. Then every chrissy eve my WHOLE family (mum's side) go to the pub (mum's birthday also) Chrissy day is lunch at dh's sisters then party at my mum's house. Boxing day is usually recovery breakfast at mum's also :roll: :roll: Just so worried about naps etc and where to put her down for sleeps. I know I am trying out this new 'go with the flow' thing but those two or three days are just going to be totally messed up :roll:
Post by: james030405 on December 13, 2005, 00:00:49 am
we are having christmas day here this year. I made sure everyone knew that I was not driving anywhere this year, as DH and I always drive everywhere. I am going to try and keep as close as possible to theroutine, especially because James can stay awake for as long as we let him. I dont know how it will go as we are having in laws from christmas eve. IT is DH's birthday on chrsitmas eve so they are here for that. James has got DH a story bridge climb for his bday. We have only just started to do them here, so that should be fun.
Maybe just go with the flow as best u can. I makes it hard when you are not at home.
Hope the rest of your day is good and you are not too hot. We are off to swimming today.
Talk soon
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 00:01:53 am
So, in classic "Jo" form - I'm in denial and am just not thinking about it at all :lol: :oops: Works wonders for me.
A girl at work told me that her DS slept through the night until she went on holiday for a week and that threw his routine. What do you all think - seeing as Fraser has NEVER slept through the night (no folks, I'm not kidding, I haven't had a full night's sleep for 8 and a half months) maybe the holiday will throw him so much that he STARTS sleeping through. Ah, utopia! (Never mind me guys, I think I'm delirious!)
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 00:06:20 am
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 00:07:06 am
I KNOW I have to stay calm for him to stay calm but that's hard when he sets a new record everynight for how long he can scream at me.
Last night, he finally fell asleep once I lay down beside him in his cot (yep, crawled in there again!). My poor baby was so worked up that even after he fell asleep he continued to sob for at least 15 minutes (that's when I got out of the cot and left). (Where's the breaking heart emoticon?) Oh well, this one will do :cry: :cry: :cry:
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 00:08:31 am
Post by: james030405 on December 13, 2005, 00:10:17 am
Hope you have a better night.
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 00:11:11 am
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 00:11:42 am
Where are you going for holidays? We are going to Caloundra. If you are going north coast perhaps we could finally catch up again??
Post by: james030405 on December 13, 2005, 00:14:59 am
Traci: No haven't done anything different. He still has about 2.5hrs-3hrs of sleep during the day. One thing I did want to ask was if this is their normal amount of daytime sleep and they do it in one sleep ie in the morning, do you put them down for another nap? Can this make for too much sleep and they wake early. So many questions?
By the way Traci, would you like to come to the beach? Maybe ths is what Cole needs :lol:
Talk soon
Lisa mum to James my textbookk/spirited koala
Post by: kq on December 13, 2005, 00:16:14 am
Lisa, I pretty much ride it out. These days my days start between 5 and 6 am. Sometimes 4.45am. As for naps, I still do not have time naps, I go on A time and for now, know the intervals Sam can stay awake. He catnaps on the days we start at 5 am and usually not when he sleeps later. Does that make sense? BTW Happy Belated Birthday :!: :D
Judy and Nikki, I am storing up your little nuggets of wisdom for future reference. Keep them coming, love to hear all your little stories!
Cathy, so sorry that you are sick. Try and get lots of rest.
Traci, well done Cole!
Nikki, when did Nathan settle down and sleep better after he got more mobile? Sam is crawling round the cot, sitting up, kneeling but not crying. I think he is still asleep (lights out so cannot see! :oops:) We hear loud banging and have to re-position. It is usually his head against the bars :shock: Hope he is not hurting himself too much. I feel like wrapping his head in cotton wool or put a helmet on him...
Must try and do some study, the old brain is not what it used to be :?
Oh a pic of Sam, note how hot it is over here!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 00:18:20 am
As for Christmas day, I'm going to take the portacot to my mums and just try and get her down for whatever nap she wants to take, I might let her do her big one in the morning which will be at home since I seem to be waking her almost every day now and just cuddle her to sleep for the afternoon one - although she just seems to keep going and going. :roll:
Quick question for those with 4-5am wake ups - I'm assuming they're actually waking for the day? Danielle will often wake and talk to herself that time of night, but I just leave her to it, then if she gets grumpy, I feed and then resettle her. This usually works except for last night it took me from from after her 3am feed until 4.30am to get her to fully resettle. Our board sure needs the *bleary eye smillie*.
Post by: kq on December 13, 2005, 00:21:55 am
Yes Nikki, sadly when Sam wakes at 4-5 am, he really is up for the day. I try the re settling and he cries as if his heart is breaking and I cannot bear to start the day like that. I feed him in a dimmed room in hope that he goes back to sleep but he usually looks up and smiles. How can I bear to do PU/PD, I ask you. It is sooo much easier to just start the day. Yes, we really need a bleary eyed emoticon!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 00:23:37 am
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 00:26:24 am
The other day DH walked around the house with him looking out windows. I don't think he realized that's our nap windown! so at 7am Cole fell asleep on the floor :shock: :shock: :shock: He has NEVER fallen asleep like that ever. He had been up since 4:10. *sigh*
huge hugs to you Jo. My heart is breaking just thinking of poor fraser sobbing :oops:
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 00:30:37 am
as for your Q from the chat re: changing. I just wrestle with cole. No toy or singing or anything makes it any easier!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 00:31:49 am
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 00:43:31 am
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 13, 2005, 01:13:46 am
Daniel's struggling to get to sleep for his afternoon nap again. It's taken nearly an hour for him to settle. Just lots of talking and crawling around the cot. I just went in there for about the 10th time and picked him up, read him a story, then put him back into his cot. It's now quiet. I also put him in his sleeping bag with a sheet over him, which even though it's way to hot for it seems to help since he's been moving. Although he was it in before and he got out, so maybe he's just tricking me now by being quiet but playing. I'll check on him soon.
Jo, just remember things can't get much worse so the holiday could be great. I always find Daniel sleeps better when away from home as there's different stimulation and I think it tires him out.
Traci, well done with last night. It sounds like Cole needed that reassurance by feeding.
Nikki and Judy, I love hearing what we've got to look forward too, so please keep discussing these 'big little people' stories.
Lisa, if Daniel does a big sleep in the morning I still put him down for his afternoon nap, otherwise he'd potentially go 7-8 hours without a nap. But I find he usually only sleeps for 40 mins, but it's enough to see him thru to bed time.
Ok, I"m going to have a snooze now as I think Daniel's asleep.
Good sleep vibes to you all.
Post by: kate585 on December 13, 2005, 02:18:41 am
Jo, big (((hugs))) to you. You are such a fantastic mum! I'm sorry Fraser's having a rough go of it. I bet the other girls are right and this trip will be just what he needs to sleep. (Btw, I am the Queen of Denial Island. Feel free to join me and my people anytime you need to! :wink: )
Also, from a hundred posts ago, Micky, I LOVED the mohawk picture. So fun!
Ryan did well today. See, all that worrying and crying for nothing! If I wasn't on the pill, I'm sure I'd be thinking it's my time of the month.
BW SITE RAVE: Thanks to Bec and Ankie and Micky, Ryan enjoyed some apple today. I gave him a big slice to chew on...well, he's stronger in the jaws than I thought and bit off a huge piece. :shock: Then, I remembered Bec said she shredded some apple (or cheese or something) so I got out my peeler and made small pieces. Then, when he couldn't pick them up, I remembered you girls with the chopsticks and tried it myself. It worked!!! I'll have to get our "good" chopsticks out instead of these throw away wooden ones. Just what we need...a splinter in the mouth. :lol:
Happy sleeping to all and to all a good night!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 13, 2005, 02:32:37 am
We are going to my parents in Birmingham, AL (southern US for our overseas friends). It is a 9 hour drive WITHOUT stops and we are going to try to do it all in one day. That has me a little nervous. We are staying at my parents and will be sleeping in the basement guest room, so it should be fairly quiet and dark for naps. I am a little concerned about the routine, though, especially bedtime. My parents are very social and I think they've already got a couple holiday parties planned while we're there. (We'll be there a week.) So, I hope Liv does well.!!!
Went to the dentist today and had 2 fillings done. My mouth is killing me! So DH offered to do bath and the whole bedtime routine...is he awesome or what!! Just had to rave!
Off to take some Tylenol for my jaw. Have a good night, girls!
(Thanks for the photo info Traci--I'll try to post some soon!)
Post by: Judy on December 13, 2005, 02:47:39 am
Ok so Kaia's poor mouth is so sore. She just could not settle tonight and she usually settles so easily. But she wouldn't put her finger in her mouth, I suspect because it hurt too much. So 5-10min and nothing is calming her down so I leave the room and get some chamomilla pellets (for pain/teething) and crushed them between two spoons then took it in and gave it to her (by this time hysterical b/c I left the room of course). I kid you not, within 1-2min she let me lay her down and didn't make another peep. :) I LOVE that stuff.
I'm STILL not getting too far with solids. They're doing cereal really well. Kaia will eat banana and they'll both eat some applesauce but honestly if I sneak in beans, peas, squash, sweet potato and now carrot - OMG they scream the house down and refuse to swallow. C'mon can't they just make a face and refuse the second bite? It takes so long to calm them back down and get them to eat the cereal then!!
Ok big child funny... Zoe burst into the bathroom last night as dh was getting out of the shower. Normal - she's always walking in, so much so that we have to really remind her when another adult is here not to walk in on them! :oops: Anyway... she goes in and says "daddy what's that under your vagina?" ACK!!! I burst out laughing SO hard. yeah first off honey *that* is not a vagina... :P and dh gave her as many different names as he could :roll: I can hardly wait to hear my sweet child saying 'balls, testicles, sac, family jewels' :roll: Thank goodness he stopped (perhaps it was due to me "CHRIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"
Post by: becca24 on December 13, 2005, 02:56:45 am
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"daddy what's that under your vagina?"
:lol: :lol: :lol: Judy I had so many other things to comment on but totally forgot after reading this !!!!!!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 03:15:15 am
Post by: Judy on December 13, 2005, 03:19:00 am
Post by: becca24 on December 13, 2005, 03:23:10 am
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 03:30:36 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 03:34:23 am
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 13, 2005, 04:04:55 am
The pics are too cute. Sam and Ryan and the chopsticks and and oh I am so brain dead...
It's been a rough few days. Here's one for ya.
You know you're addicted to the bw website when your baby falls off the changing table and the first thing you think to do is post for help :cry:
Yup, I did it, the ultimate no no, I turned my back while Sophie was on the table and she fell and I watched her and it was not a pretty sight. Sorry to post such a yucky message but I had to tell you ladies. She fell flat on her back. The sound was horrifying. She was fine, after sobbing and screaming for about a half hour to an hour. I called the doc and she said she sounded fine, told me what to watch for etc. I just felt so horrible. Last night when I got into bed and closed my eyes, all I could see, on instant replay was Sophie falling and hitting the floor again and again. Ugh. :cry:
So then, this morning was the first day she was supposed to go to Amy's for "daycare". So Amy calls at 6:30am to say that her 3 year old was up all night with a fever. Thankfully, MIL is willing to do anything for us (mixed blessing?) Anyhow, I call her up and she says "Just bring her over, we'll figure it out" Speaking of the Queen of Denial, I am just sort of prentending like I don't know what that means and I drop her off just trying not to think about it.
I go pick her up at 4:15 ish and she is still sleeping!!! No bottle at 2:30...argh! Plus, MIL is at work showing a house so FIL is there alone with her. Turns out SIL took care of her through lunch and what was supposed to be nap#2 while MIL showed another house. I guess MIL called dh at work and asked him if it would be ok...hmmmm I wonder why she didn't call me??? I guess the truth is I don't know what I would have done anyway, I kind of knew that's what was going to happen and I guess I didn't really have a choice but to go with the flow :roll: or take the day off :(
SO Sophie was completely wild at bedtime, screeching and crib crawling like she was having a party in there. She did eventually settle....anyhow.
So, I know I should get over it but it's REALLY hard not to feel like double bad mommy for letting my child fall and for taking her to our local IL "patch it together daycare"
On top of all of that the kids in my class are giving me a bit of a run for my money. It's kinda hard to be teaching a lesson that I painstakingly planned during MY weekend and have a classroom full of kids who are either 1. bored to tears or 2. completely confused and clueless as to what I am trying to teach.
It WILL get better I know it.
Micky thanks for the card. So lovely.
I am sending lots of hugs and good sleep vibes to everyone. I can totally relate to the feeling of "now everything is going to be screwed up!" The journey towards a good night sleep is a long one.
Take care ladies.
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 13, 2005, 04:15:36 am
Post by: james030405 on December 13, 2005, 04:16:53 am
Bec; :lol: :lol: :lol: I cannot wait to hear James saying things like that.
today has been a good day (so far) naps going well. down for 2nd one now., I hve had to put air conditioner on today as it is 34 degrees. :cry:
I hope everyone has had a better night.
Take care
Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 13, 2005, 05:06:35 am
Hannah, I always said I wanted my baby(ies) to adapt to anything. And hopefully they will (within reason) so just think of Sophie's experience today as 'learning to adapt'. And she did a great job at learning. IMHO, your PIL (parents in law) were just doing whatever was needed to ensure Sophie was looked after and didn't want to worry you at the time. You are NOT a bad mommy.
Ooh gotta go, bathtime for Daniel while DH cooks dinner.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 13, 2005, 05:16:44 am
I still have tears in my eyes from ROTFLMAO at the vagina/penis comment... and all the others that followed up.
Hannah... {{{{HUGS}}}} to you on your rough day. Sophie sounds like she recovered fine with mommy's hugs and kisses.
And speaking of falling, Arwyn has fallen from standing about 6 times today, bypassing her bum and landing mostly with her head. Once, narrowly missing the TV stand :roll: .
Sorry for not commenting on anybody else's posts... after Judy's post, all was lost. I laughed so loud and told my DH he had to read it because reading it out loud to him would not do it justice :lol: :lol: :lol: . I am sure, he too, has tears in his eyes still.
Nights are not getting better over here as per my last post. She is now waking and requires 45 minutes or more to put back down. Of course, this only occurs at the 2 or 3 or 4 am wakings, never the 9 or 10 pm when we have the energy and patience. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Anyhow, glad the chopstick feeding is going well for everybody. :lol: For uncooked apple, I get her Gerber spoon which is metal, and scrape the apple right off the slice and feed her from the spoon. I let her hold onto the apple slice and sometimes she too, gets a big piece that forces mommy to fish it out :shock: and make her cry. However, the scraping it off onto the spoon works well.
See you ladies... I so missed the chat on Friday. I realized at 9:42 pm PST and was very sad I had missed it. I've been getting ready for Christmas. We have had a couple of Christmas-y days here. Saturday brunch for the drop-in moms and then Sunday open house here for about 50 people, about 25 kids :shock: . Only 5 childless people showed up. Needless to say, Arwyn had no second nap (well, 30 minutes) and was good all day, dispite refusing her 11 and 3 BF and her lunch and dinner. I guess she was too busy seeing to all her guests :roll: .
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 13, 2005, 06:14:31 am
It's been Thursday since I posted and I am just feeling way too overwhelmed. I promise I really tried to read through all 12 pages of posts I missed but I just kept getting distracted and couldn't get through them all. It is so much easier when you are keeping up on a regular basis. :?
Hannah, I am so sorry for the rough patch you are going through and for Sophie's fall. gosh I know you must feel horrible but please do not he so hard on yourself. I know it could happen to all of us if it hasn't already happened. keep your head up :wink:
So far I have received cards from Micky, Traci, Michelle, and Kate. Thanks so much you guys! they are all so cute and the babies just look amazing! We took our picture this weekend and I am picking the prints up tomorrow, so hoping to get them all sent out by the end of the week.
Guys, I am feeling so overwhelmed right now Ijust want to cry. Between trying to help DH out with his business, trying to start the baby company, be a good mommy to taylor, keep up with the house work and laundry and cooking, etc., etc., etc. I have a tree sitting in the living room with no decorations. No decorations up yet in the house. No shopping done. I swear I just feel completely sunk right now. Don't know what is up with me...always have it so together KWIM?
Sorry for venting, just feelign kinda down right now :(
On a good note, Taylor has been sleeping through for a couple of weeks now and naps are on the mend. She is up to 3 hours A time in the morning and 3.5 in the afternoon. So she is going down for nap #2 when she should be taking a feed and waking up at 4ish! She is on a 5 hour EASY according to my book! :lol: :?
Will try to post more tomorrow but have such a busy day ahead can't guaruntee it.
Take care everyone..I miss you all!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 06:31:42 am
Ankie, Nathan got a black eye on his brand new activity table daddy had just made and brought into the house when he first learnt to stand, boy did we feel terrible since it happened right when I was next to him.
Andrea {{hugs}} - what a lot you've got on your plate. It is hard to adjust to being a mother and not being able to do and cope with the things you normally would. I struggle all the time at trying to find the right balance for all of us. When I'm feeling like that I write a list, I list down one or two housework chores that I really want done that's the minimum to keep things ticking over, things that need to be bought, things *I* want to do for me and just start to knock them off. I went through this in the last week since Nathan wasn't playing by my rules a lot of things suffered and I had to figure out a way for it all to work (or what things could be sacrificed). Are there any things you can temporarily let go? Does DH realise how things are affecting you at the moment? I'm pleased to hear that Taylor is sleeping well - Yay!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 13, 2005, 06:34:09 am
Like I said, she is now at 3 hours A time and I let her sleep for 1.5 hours and no longer.
Her afternoon A time is 3.5 hours and she has been sleepign for 1.5 hours. For the last week for the afternoon nap I have found that if I put her down at 3 hours either she a) fights me like crazy for 30 minutes or b) will settle down like a lamb but then be up 40 minutes later. So it seems that 3.5 is the magic number for right now anyhow.
HTH!
Post by: FrasersMum on December 13, 2005, 06:34:52 am
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 13:58:48 pm
Judy-ROFLMAO. Can't wait to tell DH when he wakes up. Too funny!
okay-can't remember much more except for you Andrea. Wow! You do have a lot on your plate. I just have my house and Cole and even last night I had a little cry because we're having an xmas function this saturday and I feel totally overwhelmed. Is there anything that you can let go of? For instance...while things are hectic with starting up the business you may have to let go of a clean home. Healthy food and clean clothes yes, perfectly clean floors and washrooms, no. I know it may drive you crazy for a little while but may gain you some much needed time to get stuff done. Also, if you time is too valuable...could you have a cleaning service every couple of weeks? just a thought. Big hugs to you during this busy time.
okay-no details, just a crappy night again. DH said cole should write a book " how to feel great on 10 45 minute naps". DH took him from 3-6, unfortunately held him between 5 and 6. oh well.
I am torn between wondering if he needs longer A time or shorter A time with return of the catnap :? honestly, i'm completely at a loss. His best sleep was sunday night after we shlepped him around all day in the car :roll: Still hoping it's teeth but even tylenol doesn't seem to help. Maybe we'll dress him warmer. DH felt cold in his room last night and i said DUH-I've been saying that for weeks. i'll try pants under his grobag tonight and see how he goes.
okay, off to make coffee and bathe.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 13, 2005, 14:25:58 pm
It is early morning here and I am off to work. Taking Sophie to Amy today as her ds appears to be better. I will post tonight adn let you know how it goes.
We are having a little weirdness with nap #2 here too Andrea....I think waiting unti closer to her normal 3rd baottle time is actually working better, otherwise it takes here until past that tiem to settle anyway...so???
Also Andrea and everyone with all the holiday stuff. ...You have gotten really good advice. Give yourself permissions to just enjoy whatever you are doing. You deserve it. Hugs to anyone feeling stressed. I am right there with you.
Jo thanks for the "Love" it warms my heart whenever you write "we love you". Just makes me feel so special and well, loved...even if it's not specifically aimed at me. :)
Lastly as you know my sense of humor, OMG I was also ROTFLMAO over the body part names and what not. Poop and body parts....ah the simple pleasures of life :)
See you later. Off to shower and wrestle ten year olds all day :)
Thanks for being here ladies.
Hannah
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 14:33:36 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 13, 2005, 14:54:25 pm
Hope you and Cole have a good day.
Hannah
Post by: Erin M on December 13, 2005, 14:59:53 pm
Cathy - here's a link to some stuff that I copied out of a book regarding what to take for colds when BFing http://babywhisperer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46023&highlight= - hope it helps. Like I said in the post, it's not doctor's advice or anything, but my understanding is that the author is pretty well regarded and researched - can't remember what I took when I had a cold, but I took something she recommended and no ill side effects. Hope you feel better!
Hannah - ((hugs)) to you - what a rough day. It must be SO hard to jump in to a new school year at this time of year. You don't know the kids, they're used to someone else, and you've got Sophie to worry about too. You know that it will get better once you and the kids get into the flow better. Pre-Christmas is never the best time to be teaching anyway. Oh, and I like Hayley's comment about teaching her to adapt or whatever she said about the PIL daycare.
Nancy - I would plan some sitting in the back with Liv time on your car trip - I find that really helps Katie when we do our 6.5 hour drive to Buffalo. That and loads of interaction when you actually do stop. We've always done fine at my parents and the ILs, so I'm sure you'll be fine.
Jo - all I can do is say (((hugs))) and tell you that you have a wonderful attitude towards Frase's sleep (or lack thereof). That kid is one tough cookie.
Judy - LMAO
Karen - Sam is such a cutie
Kate - love the haircut pic and the chopsticks too!
Richelle - love the picture, so funny
Traci - continued good luck with the sleep! And good for DH for organizing the Christmas thing - that's great!
Holly - how's Brady? Hope all is well there, keep us posted. When Katie was pretty sick a few weeks ago, she had on interest in food or sleep, just being held. It was a tough few days until she started feeling better.
Ankie - glad to hear nights are getting better
Andrea - supermom, slow down! As for your Christmas shopping, buy some frames off the internet and give everyone pictures of Taylor - I'm sure that's all they want anyway. Order some other stuff while you're at it, and Christmas shopping is done.
Micky, Kate - I got your cards yesterday! Thanks!
Us - I should get the Christmas pictures on Wednesday and will send the cards out shortly after. Katie slept last night which was nice - first time in a bit, she's been coughing so much, poor sweetie she's been having a hard time. That and she was at daycare yesterday where she'll take about a 45 minute nap all day if that, so I guess she was tired. (They're really good about trying to get her down on time, but there's WAY too much going on there for her to sleep!)
She's been pretty consistently drinking only a few ounces of her lunchtime bottle, so I wonder if we're on our way to dropping that one. I'm hoping she's about done with this cold, since I'm really tired of getting snot on my boob when I BF. Ah, the joys of motherhood. :D
Post by: Judy on December 13, 2005, 15:08:09 pm
And just wait - when Taylor's a couple years older she'll do this stuff for you - like it or not :roll: Seems all my santas and snowmen must be huddled together in one corner. I tried placing them so perfectly throughout the house and got caught taking them 'back' at one point and all I heard was "oh no no no NO!" and had it removed from my grip only to be huddled with the others once again. :roll: it's just not worth the battle - they have more staying power than I do and they don't miss a thing so there's no 'foolin' them either. And as for the tree... well I only was given a handful of decorations to put on - so most of them are at the bottom front (and Zoe keeps telling me the angel looks like she's falling - I wonder why :)) So I decided then that I wouldn't undo their decorating BUT every decoration that got taken off and left on the floor was fair game and if I got to it then I could place whereever I wanted :) It was working out quite well until last night... Sarah was downstairs alone and I could hear her tugging at the decorations - again. Then all of a sudden she was screaming, just heartbroken so I ran down there to find her sobbing beside the fallen tree. It's a total mess now. Oh well - it's going to have to do KWIM? I can't be bothered to REdo it. And of course many decorations fell again and THEY got to them... so much for having ANYTHING at the top at all :)
Hannah - as Nikki said at least Sophie is no worse for the wear from her fall. I like lessons that are strong but where no one gets really hurt KWIM? I totally understand though - I'd be replaying it too... but it's all good... and once she starts walking the real challenge becomes keeping black eyes at bay before picture time (can't believe I said that with our family pics less than a week away - jinxing? I hope not)
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 15:32:31 pm
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 13, 2005, 16:04:30 pm
Erin--thanks for the travel advice. My grandmother is riding with us, and she ADORES Liv, so I'm sure we can take turns entertaining her.
Andrea--it is a stressful time of year, PLUS all the stuff you have going on in your life! Take the advice you've got from everyone and cut yourself some slack. Remember this time of year is for enjoying special moments with family and friends. Some other things can wait...like SOME housework, etc. I've tried to give myself some time off this month (minimal housework, no projects for work, etc.) But I must admit I'm even feeling stressed. So, don't forget to take some time for yourself, too. Give yourself an hour or two, curl up with a cup of coffee and a good book, or just take a bath or a nap...it will do wonders for you!! Hope you're feeling on top of things again soon. Enjoy your holidays!
As for everyone else...hope you're doing well. That's all I could remember while trying to get caught up.
Off to check on munchkin, then Xmas shopping with DH this afternoon. He has 1/2 day off!! YEAH!!!
Post by: Erin M on December 13, 2005, 16:57:40 pm
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 13, 2005, 17:06:58 pm
I am feeling a bit better today (not as stuffed up, just coughing and sore throat). Thanks so much for the info on meds and bf'ing Erin. Carter still seems ok too considering the cold and teeth - he slept through again but took half an hour to put to bed last night.
We had some bad news yesterday :( My great uncle (who I am fairly close with) had a massive heartattack and died over the weekend. He was shovelling his mother's (my Great grandma who is 100!!) front walkway after the snow storm and he collapsed. My GGrandma was waiting and waiting for him to come in and where he had fallen, she couldn't see him outside her windows. She called out the front door to the man across the street to come and help her but he ignored her and then a teenage girl walking down teh street ignored her too!!! :shock: She ended up calling the police (they had been forewarned by my grandpa that if she ever called there they needed to act immediately considering she is 100 and lives alone). They came right down and found him, pronounced him DOA but ended up getting a pulse on teh way to the hospital. He died at the hospital though. So sad because he was probably laying out in the snow for 20 mins to 30 mins waiting for police etc. If only those people had of helped my G Grandma!! She couldn't get to him because of the snow either. Anyway, I feel bad for her and his wife ... so close to Christmas :(
On another note ... I mailed everyone's card yesterday! Finally done, pictures included! So far I have gotten one from Michelle and Micky. Thanks so much and love the pics!!!
Hannah: Falls happen to everyone! Your little girl sounds like one tough cookie! Carter fell off the couch about a month back :oops: :oops: Of course it was on "Momma's watch" as Dh always says. "Carter never gets hurt on Daddy's watch" :roll: I know what you mean about reliving it, especially the sound. When Carter fell he landed on the hardwood with his face. I had only turned around to adjust the pillows beside him and he literally threw himself. He ended up with a big fat bloody lip for a couple of days. I felt horrible!! Dh yelled at me and told me how disappointed he was in me and that I should only ever put Carter on the floor so he can't get hurt. Weeelllll ... the next week while Carter was sitting on the floor (hardwood again) he toppled over (under Dh's watch) and smashed his face and ended up with a big bruise on his cheek. It was sad but I couldn't help feeling a little bit happy that he hurt himself while DH was supposed to be watching him. I know I know, I'm sick :shock:
Judy: Love the stories about your girls. What a trooper you are. I would be freaking out about the Christmas tree and everything else. BTW I love the vagina question ... so funny!!! Only out of the mouths of babes eh!!???
Erin: Snot on the boob!! LOL!!! I know exactly what you are talking about!! I find when Carter is stuffed up that bf'ing helps clear his nose, of course becasue it all ends up on me!!! I think DH took a picture of all the boogers once (don't worry, I won't post that one!!)
I can't remember anything else and I smell poop so gotta run!
Have a good day ladies!
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 17:08:01 pm
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 13, 2005, 17:37:30 pm
I hope you all have a wonderful holiday season. Enjoy your time with friends and family. And treasure this first Christmas (Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or whatever you chose to celebrate) with your new little one!
Blessings, Nancy, Steve & Olvia
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/nbackues/100_1136_edited-1.jpg)
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 13, 2005, 17:38:05 pm
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 17:52:13 pm
So sorry for the loss of your Great Uncle. What a terrible situation for your G Grandma to be in. To know something is amiss and have no one respond or help :oops: :cry: :oops: That makes me terribly sad and angry at the same time. The nerve of some people totally ignoring something like that. Gosh, I'm just speechless otherwise for how your Great Aunt and Great Grandma must feel so close to Christmas. Always make it harder at this time when family is so important. Big Hugs to you and your family.
Post by: solnme on December 13, 2005, 18:07:16 pm
Ankie - OMG! 50 people and 25 kids? Where did they all come from and how did you find time for that?
Hannah - so sorry you're reliving the fall. I'm constantly checking Sol's mouth for objects since he nearly choked twice while we were in Seattle. I think it was Traci who said it's all about learning from the scares. I totally agree.
Cathy - terrible news about your g. uncle. I've known so many people who have died around the holidays I'm very reluctant to celebrate every year. Right now a x-coworker and dear friend is losing her battle with cancer. She's only 31 and has been fighting it for the last 2 years. Her father called a bunch of us and told us if we want to see her, come now.
On a lighter note, it's been so much fun watching Sol interacting with other babies now that he's on the move. Along with the inquisitive touching he tries to put the other babies heads in his mouth! It's the funniest thing.
I'm off to check the mail and hoping for some Christmas cards. (haven't checked it in over a week) Mellow day so I know I'll be back on.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 13, 2005, 18:31:40 pm
Her and her husband (she just moved there when they got married, he has always lived there) own a ton of cotton farms and have houses all around there apparently. She is constantly on the move.
Just wondering ... probably a long shot! :oops: :roll:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 13, 2005, 20:38:22 pm
Nancy, what a lovely family picture! :)
Well I feel relatively rested today - think I got a good solid 4hrs sleep from 12-4am (Nathan was awake prior to midnight and D woke at 4 for her feed but I think for a change I then fell straight back to sleep until 5.30 when N woke up. Yeah! :D
LOL, I'm waiting for some Christmas decorations to arrive from some girls I did swaps with on another parenting board - hopefully they'll add to my de-nuded tree. It's now got decorations on the top and empty on the bottom. Nathan had to learn the natural consequence last week of tugging on a decoration and pulling the tree over - I saw it happening and let it happen since it's only a small fake tree and knew neither he or the tree would get hurt. Hasn't done it since....
Post by: Judy on December 13, 2005, 21:13:51 pm
Traci I get the chamomilla from Loblaws -they have a health food section and now carry homeopathic remedies. They come in really small bottles and there's usually a plastic case that carries a zillion different ones. I'm telling ya - it worked a CHARM last night!!!!!!
Ok the tree? :roll: It's lying on it's face AGAIN. I couldn't be bothered to pick it up. The cover around the light on the angel - smashed... some of the balls - smashed. Ugh. I told the girls that we'd have to get daddy to pick it up again and hope it didn't fall down again because if we didn't have a tree where would Santa leave the presents? DH said he'd nail it to the wall. (that should be attractive LOL)
Ok well Zoe has been asleep now for 30min or more (was on the phone) so a big CRAP!!! Now must go wake her... everyone plug your ears - it's gonna get LOUD!!! ;)
Post by: james030405 on December 13, 2005, 23:56:32 pm
Well, I have succussfully cut back to 3 milk feeds a day now - still with no bottles YAY! :D I don't know whether it is because it is so hot here, but he just hasn't wanted that 3pm feed lately. So I think why am I wasting making up this formula when you don't want it. I think there was someone asking about routine ( :oops: not sure who sorry) James is currently like this:
5-6 wake up (still trying to crack this one) - I give him 240ml of milk when he wakes and he can take upto an hour to drink it.
7am breakfast/left over milk
9am nap
10:30am awake and snack usually water and a piece of fruit
12pm: lunch and milk
2pm: nap
3pm awake - snack as above or maybe a biscuit
5pm: dinner
5:30pm: bath
6:00pm milk
7pm bed
so far so good...........
Anyway, he has jsut woken, better go.
Hope everyone has a better day/night
Love Lisa=
mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Colesmom on December 13, 2005, 23:59:39 pm
Well girlies, my little man had a 45 and a 1 hour nap today. The only hour being extended from 45 for a whopping 10 min. He's falling asleep on the boob more and more often before bed which I really don't like. I am really trying to sort out what it is. Top tooth is coming through so I want to comfort him but don't want to create a bad habit of holding him. Another girlfriend agrees with Cathy that it could be a battle of wills...and he's currently winning. He hasn't spit up the last couple of days so I don't think it's reflux. It might be that he is just plain overtired too. I got rid of the catnap and was trying to get him to conform to the clock and I think maybe he just got more and more tired the more I tried to stretch him. *sigh*. it will pass I'm sure.
okay, off to decorate the tree. I would go to sleep now but I doubt it's worth the effort at this point. Already resettled him once at the 45 min. mark :roll:
Hoping Richelle will call soon and we can have a good "live" chat.
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 01:35:05 am
Cole has woken at 6:25, 6:45, 7:15 and 7:30. Finally at 7:30 I decided I just CANNOT pat his bum, sing and hold his hand all night every night. I know it may pass in a couple of days, but what if it's a couple of weeks or more? So I decided it had to be pupd. It took 15 minutes and I ended up with my hand on his bum. He then jolted a few times for the next 15 min. and i just laid a hand on him. No patting and I didn't hold his hand, but he put his hand on mine. I finally had to let him because he was crying so hard he nearly lost his voice and was choking on his snot/tears. Kate/Judy-did your little ones fight this hard? I know for you it took longer-but did they sound hoarse?
Should I be concerned with eliminating the handholding and bum-patting. Jo, you said to gradually get rid of it...but I'm not quite sure how to do that. It seems to be it's all or nothing. I do try to stop patting and take my hand away after less time. Maybe I'll see if that works, but he reaches for my hand, putting his arm in an awkward position, then I often have to guide it down to the mattress or it drops and he jolts awake.
Also-I gave him advil at 5...so if it's working as it should, can I trust that he's not in pain (top tooth coming in) Would you ladies do pupd while your lo is teething? is this not a good time? I know he needs extra cuddles, but mommy is not going to be available for cuddles if she doesn't get some sleep :oops: I am feeling exhausted and resentful and worried. I feel like I've screwed something up and I want to fix it so he can sleep properly again. I know this will pass, but when :roll: :?:
My gosh, Ankie, Jo and Holly, you are strong women. I am only going on about 3 weeks I think of major sleep issues and I am wearing very thin. I was sitting next to his crib nearly in tears.
I haven't even started my shopping, have no interest whatsoever in our party saturday or going anywhere for christmas. I just want to hole up in my bed and sleep :oops:
okay, ladies. thanks so much for letting me get that out. He's been asleep nearly 45 minutes. Everyone cross everything for me.
Post by: kate585 on December 14, 2005, 02:05:30 am
Cathy, so sorry about your great uncle. Man, I am mad at those jerks who just passed by. Let's hope they didn't hear her, because otherwise, they are in for some trouble at the pearly gates, IYKWIM!
Judy, I am going to paste that section into an email for dh. He loves to hear the funny stories you guys tell! (Btw, just picture my sweaty Jude Law husband getting out of the shower. Dreamy! :D ) (Dh took over the keyboard at chat and started writing about how hot he is...you had to be there, I guess).
Hannah, no worries about Miss Sophie's fall. It happens to all of us and she'll be a-ok. I know what you mean about lesson planning. Ugggh! Don't they know how hard you're working? :? Just another week or is it less? You CAHN do it!
Nancy, loved the holiday picture!!! Glad it was so big!
Okay, I'm off, my dearest ladies. Wishing you all good sleeps!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 14, 2005, 02:36:09 am
Roz--I'm sorry to hear about your friend's battle with cancer. Please keep us posted. I will be praying for you and your friend as well.
Traci--I'm sorry I don't have any advice, but sending big hugs your way!!! ((((((((HUGS))))))))))
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 03:07:58 am
I think I'll just let him be and give him a sip in the night if he seems to need it. Advil is going to wear off around 12-1 so I'm expecting to be up then.
okay, I got the tree decorated. I put on some chrissie music, stopped feeling sorry for myself and I feel much better. sorry for the pity post girls. off to bed for me just in case he decides he doesn't want to sleep after all.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 14, 2005, 03:12:02 am
I don't know if I would do pu/pd during teething. That's a hard one. When Sophie got her bottom two (her only two) we pretty much let everytihg go out the window and it took a little bit to get back on track but we did eventually.
I do totally hear you about how you are feeling and I can tell you that I too have very little patience for sleep problems...not that you haven't been patient...you have been incredibly patient....just saying that I understand how you feel. When we go through rough patches I feel like a zombie, my judgement goes out the window and I just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
And that's when I come on hear and rant. So keep coming back here. We are rooting for you and Cole. It will get better.
Thanks again for all of the support about the fall and the ungrateful 4th graders :wink: We actually had a much better day today.
Sophie went to Amy fort eh first time today. She was totally off schedule adn I guess pretty upset/tired after I left. :( But she was fine when I picked her up and Amy is totally willing to work on the sched. situation with me so...
Ummm Kate...sweaty Jude Law...can he chat again on Friday?
The tree decorating stories are funny.
Roz sorry I didn't get to see you when you were in Seattle. Hope the trip went well?
Cathy so sorry about your Great Uncle.
Andrea. Hope you're doing ok?
And Naomi?? Where are you hunny?
Hugs to everyone. The cards are absolutely wonderful!
Talk to you soon ladies.
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 14, 2005, 03:14:15 am
Here's hoping you have a goodnight.
Hannah
Post by: james030405 on December 14, 2005, 03:49:49 am
I meant to add to my last post about dropping to 3 milk feeds. We use to do 4 x 210ml but I have increased the size of each bottle to 240ml so he gets 3 x 240ml, almost as much as before.
To everyone who is having family health problems and struggling wiht the death of loved ones, my heart goes out to you :cry:
This is the best place to rant/rave and I thourougly enjoy reading all the posts. I am sorry I don't always make personal answers but I do think of you always. You know you are addicted to the baby whisperer site when you DON'T want DH to come home so you can concentrate on talking to your friends.
BTW, thanks Kate, I got your card today. I sent mine on Saturday so hopefully all the overseas ladies should receive theirs soon.
Love always
Lisa mum to james
PS. While writing this, I am watching a show on cable about a woman who has 14 kids and have just given birth to her 15th (10 boys/5girls). And here I am sometimes struggling with 1 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 14, 2005, 04:08:15 am
First off, thank you all sooooo much for being my shoulders to cry on and a rock to lean on. You are all so wonderful and having never met me, always know what to say to lift me up :) . Jo-the we love you part was also very sweet (I think Hannah liked it too? :wink: ). Anyhow, I am feeling a little better today. Got the christmas pics picked up so I can send them out tomorrow, the tree is half decorated and that's about it for now. I am going to try and muster the energy to go and finish decorating the house.
:arrow: Art and I also went to one of his clients Christmas parties today. They are a securities firm and announced at the party that the partners of the firm are opening up a college fund for Taylor and putting in $1000!!! It was so nice of them and really heartwarming to know that DH's clients think so highly of them.
Judy-soo funny about the tree story and also the idea of getting the kids to do it soon. I liek that idea, even if it doesn't come out perfect. I would love to be your kid! :lol:
Cathy, so sorry about your great uncle. My gosh people are so insane now a days. Now that I am a mom I can say something my mom would say: "What is this world coming to?" (not to make a joke though :( )
Kate-you crack me up, or rather your DH does. I don't know if you've been on when my DH has also taken over the keyboard and told you all how hot he is! :lol:
Traci-you mentioned that you wait 1-2 minutes before going in sometimes, but many times you go in right away because he gets so upset. How do you think he would react if you tried this (Kate, the night wakings mod tought me this and it helps a lot): start counting to 100. If he quiets down for at least 10 seconds, start counting all over again. Do this until you reach 100. If you get to 100 go in. The point being that even if you start over counting 20 times, if he is settling for at least 10 seconds at a time, he does not NEED you KWIM?
I personally would try to stop the df, especially if he is asleep. Remember what Weissbluth says about the DF? It could disrupt sleep even more? Just some thoughts, please disregard if you have already tried/thought of it. At any rate, good luck and please know we are here for you.
Erin, you had asked about T's schedule so here it is (keep in mind that wake up time varies by 30 minutes, but I'll just post one set time for simplicity sake):
7 am wake BF
8 am solids
8:30-10 am Activity (we keep it mellow with a walk around the neighborhood and just crawling around the floor)
10-11:30 am Sleep
11:30 wake BF
12:30 Solids
1-3:00 pm Activity (this is where I try to tire her out with a lot of physical activity and stimulation)
3-4:30 Sleep
4:30 wake BF
5:30 Solids
6:30 Bath
7-7:30 BF and bed
Towards the end of the day the feeds get a little crammed and I can see how in the next month or two it will be easy to cut out the afternoon BF.
Today I got a card from James/Lisa and Ankie/Arywn! Keep em coming. I love them! Yours are going out tomorrow.
Take care everyone
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 14, 2005, 04:13:51 am
Also, not to freak anyone out, but I have to tell a story of what happened to one of Taylor's friends who is 2 weeks older than her:
she was creeping around the tub while mommy was going potty. She ended up falling mouth first on the edge of the tub and knocked one of her 2 bottom teeth out! :( :shock: It didnt' come completly out but was totally horizontal and blood everywhere. The dentist pushed it back in place but it is very loose. They are going to a specialist tomorrow to see if the tooth is salvageable. Poor thing.
Post by: james030405 on December 14, 2005, 04:38:02 am
That story about your friend is awful. I hope they can salvage the teeth. Now James has 6 teeth, I am dreading the day he puts his teeth through his lip :(
Glad you got our christmas card.
take care everyone
Love Lisa and James
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 14, 2005, 05:25:38 am
do you mind sharing what other site you are on? Just curious, as I this was the only moms/parents site I had ever heard of, so would be interested in knowing of others.
thanks!
Post by: hayes on December 14, 2005, 06:17:08 am
Hope everyone is doing good in either snow, chillies or the sun.
Lisa-We have had really early wake times around 2 weeks ago-like 4:45. If it was that early I fed then put Ben back to bed. If it was later I tried to feed and put back to bed with some success. After 6 I would hold off feeding until as close to 7 as I could get. Now he has been waking closer to 7.
Judy-Can't wait to see what our little mongrel will do when he reaches your girls' age. LMAO at your stories. Can we come to stay at your house for some great giggles? Private parts stories are hilarious. Not sure if I want to read them to DH because then he will get all revved up to do the same.
Nancy-Went to the dentist recently and had 2 new cavities, was told that when one breastfeeds sometimes it takes all of the calcium out of our bodies. Can't remember if you BF or not, I started taking calcium supplements. Hope your mouth feels better.
Hannah-We had a changing table incident about a month ago. I could have written the same thing you did. I know exactly what you were feeling. DH and I promised not to tell anyone... the babysitter told me yes yes I know be careful when he is on the changing table because you let him fall to the ground. So much for keeping a secret.
Thinking of you while you are at work battling the monsters. When I am at work I wonder how I ever did it pre baby and had so much patience. Remember that they are usually a lot better and more mature after they come back from a vacation.
Andrea-Our schedule is matching yours pretty well. Tricky with the BF at 4 then a solid feed then another BF at 7. When do you think you are going to drip the afternoon BF? I don't think Ben is quite ready yet maybe a few more weeks or a month. Also, I have been having the overwhelming blues lately too! I am working on taking things off my list for the day that can be done tomorrow. I know you are out of time but I also started journaling my feelings for about 5 minutes a day and that is really helpful. Got a fancy journal and fun pen to write with. I am not a motivated journaler but for the past week it is helping me out. All of us are so looking forward to the website, all of your hard work will pay off.
Cathy-So sorry about your great uncle. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
So finally got the ear infection diagnosis along with a nice snotty eye infection. Ben is on the mend. THe nurses thought he was fine because he was smiling in the waiting room. I finally smarted up and didn't wipe off the yellow mucus from his eyes and they realized something was wrong... ARGGG
Long enough post. I will try to stay caught up.
Snuggly times with your little one. I keep reminding myself to have a nice rocking time and snuggle time because before I know it, the time will be gone.
macaire
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 14, 2005, 06:51:41 am
I belong to two Attachment Parenting/Natural parenting boards - a US one and an Australian one. I also belong to a NZ parenting board where I joined the pregnancy club for April to have others to chat to. I kind of fluked finding them all though, BW was my first, then I heard about http://www.mothering.com from a post on here and that led to http://www.naturalparenting.com.au from a post on there and a friend told me about http://www.everybody.co.nz (for Karen and Hayley). I have discovered others, but really there's only so much I can keep up with. This is my main one and the others I just check in every few days and browse the key forums I like.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 14, 2005, 07:23:47 am
For those of you feeling a little overwhelmed I thought I'd include this little ditty from La Leche League that they sent me.
"The cleaning and scrubbing can wait for tomorrow, for children grow up, as I've learnt to my sorrow. So quiet down cobwebs, dust go to sleep, I'm nursing my baby and babies don't keep."
I just think that's lovely and so true.
Cathy, I was so sad reading what happened to your family. My thoughts are with you.
It's funny, when I read thru everyone's posts, there's so many things I think and wish I could just say to you as I go. As I've just read 4 pages, there's too much to comment on, but all your events and happenings have made me smile, laugh or take a deep breath and sigh.
Judy and Nikki, are you ladies trying to tell me that my 'thing' about having a nicely and well thought out decorated tree is going to change once Daniel gets older??? OH NO!!!! Maybe we'll have to have 2 trees, one for Daniel and one for me!!! :lol: :lol:
Daniel's been off milk and food the last couple of days. Today his first 3 bottles he only had about 120mls each (normally drinks 220mls). But his last bottle drank about 280mls. We've swapped around to giving food first then bottle so I'm wondering if I'm giving him his bottle too close to his food, we were waiting abou 45 mins. Is anyone else giving food first yet? In NZ they recommend to change around 8-9 months. I've wondered also whether it could be as we are experiencing hot muggy weather, or if he's about to get his next tooth. Or possibly all of the above. I guess I shouldn't worry too much, especially if he's drinking water, but it's such a sudden change from drinking 1000mls a day to about 600mls.
Lisa, thank you for the card. I"m feeling guilty now that I wasn't going to do the card thing, especially the warm fuzzy feeling I got when I received Lisa's, so I'm going to see if I can get some done after all. They may just be sent over a few weeks, rather than trying to get them all done at the same time.
Better go, enough rambling here.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 14, 2005, 14:05:35 pm
I keep thinking that i should be trying to get her to take 24oz, which would be...about 750ml? I think, but seriously most days we are probably closer to 600. I keep thinking it will affect her sleep....but...all body parts crossed it hasn't yet.
Does this seem right to you other ladies? That the milk intake would be decreasing like this?
I know it's not an exact science and I do go with the flow (no force feeding here :)) but just wondering.
I am off to shower and put MAKEUP on! Still can't quite get used to that.
We got Traci's and Michelle's cards in the mail yesterday....such cute little bubs and cards. Thank you soooo much.
I'm bringing some extra duct tape with me today for the extra chatty kids :lol: I'll say "Well, I guess you should have thought about the fact that you wouldn't like duct tape over your mouth before you started chatting to your neighbor." Hrmph.
A girl can fantasize right? :)
Hayley thanks for the little La leche ryhme. I love that. Oh so true.
Have a great day/night etc. lovely ladies.
Hannah
Oh yes and me too....I want to come live at your house Judy!!! You should seriously write a book...in your spare time :wink:
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 15:03:04 pm
Andrea-thanks for the counting to 100 trick. Will certainly try that tonight. This sep. anxiety thing is tough.
Lisa-thank you for pointing out that James can take up to one hour to drink his morning bottle. So hard for us BF moms because we expect our los to drink it all in one go! So today I gave Cole a 20 minutes break between boobs and he drank more. YAY!
oh-not liking the saucer-back later.
Post by: Erin M on December 14, 2005, 15:43:44 pm
Traci - hope things sort out soon. My goodness, he's giving you a rough time.
Milk drinking reduction here too - as she's now 9.25 months, I've been giving her solids before milk only at lunch. She doesn't take much of her lunch bottle at all - a few ounces if I'm lucky. Her 4 PM bottle she'll take about 6 or so. Morning and night she still BFs well, though when DH gave her a bedtime bottle the other day when I was at work, she only took 5 ounces or so. I just got something from someone that suggested that at 9 months or so, they should only be getting 16-21 oz of milk. Doesn't seem like much.
Andrea - thanks for the schedule - we're not too far off from that - or we wouldn't be if Katie ever napped! I am definitely partly to blame for that as I'm forever dragging the kid around in the afternoon and missing quality nap time.
Hannah - LOL at the duct tape - I soooooooooo know what you mean.
Hayley - loved the rhyme
Cathy - such a sad story, sorry about your great uncle
Macaire - glad to hear Ben is on the mend
Nancy/Macaire - I have been putting off going to the dentist since before I got pregnant. I can't even imagine how many fillings I'm going to need when I do go, I think I'd almost rather give birth again, boy do I hate the dentist!
Ummm...15 kids....don't know about you ladies, but my motivation to "create" another after the first 5 or so would be seriously nonexistant. I guess it only takes once as long as it's timed right.
OK, must go clean, I dropped Katie off at daycare, even though the college is on break so I could get some stuff done. Makes me feel very guilty to be sitting here typing. Bye!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 14, 2005, 15:56:30 pm
I've been sneaking on to keep up for the last couple of days while DH was home...he's back to work now so I can get back to my addiction!! :)
Traci: PU/PD took a lot longer for us also. With us, if I patted Jack at all it made him cry harder. So maybe just try sticking with having your hand on his bum. It's great that it only took 15 min. Our first night of sticking to PU/PD we were up 3-4 times doing it for an HOUR each time. The second night was better. He only woke twice and it took only maybe 3x of PU/PD to get him back to sleep. The third night he slept thru. But then a few nights later he relapsed and was up almost every hour all night long :roll: . It's hard to stick to your plan when you think that they are hungry. But I found that if Jack was hungry he wouldn't settle even for a few seconds. When he wasn't hungry he would settle for a few seconds then start up again with the crying. But I stuck to my plan and now he's been sleeping thru since.
Andrea: You've got a ton on your plate!!! I wouldn't have any christmas decorations out at all if DH hadn't come home. I couldn't find the time or the energy to do any of that.
Hannah: Sorry about Sophie!! Those LO's noggins are pretty tough tho!! :) I know what you mean about constantly having nightmares about it tho....I did the same thing for about a week or two after I had to resuscitate jack. :( NOT FUN!!!!! Oh, and about the milk intake dropping, I read that it is normal because their solid intake is increasing. Makeup---how exciting!! I got to dye my hair yesterday!! :) It made my feel like a new person....to be able to cover all my grey's!! :shock:
Cathy: Sorry to hear about your family! :( People are just getting to be so non-caring about everyone except themselves! :evil: makes me so mad! Oh, and you asked me a long time ago about Jacks b-day!! He was due on the 26th....we got induced on the 28th and he finally made his appearance on the 29th at 8pm. I'm glad you noticed that their b-days match because I'm never that observant lately! :oops:
Judy: DH loved the vagina comment!!! He totally was killing himself laughing!!
Hayley: We've been doing solids before milk for a while. Some days J's intake of milk is a lot less then normal but that also varies on how much solids he ate. We don't wait in between solids and milk. He usually takes in about 24 oz. per day. and 3 solid meals
So far I have gotten cards from Kate and Michelle. Great pics girls!!
Jackson gets his casts off on Monday!!! Can you believe it's been 6 weeks already!! :) Man, time flys with you girls! :wink: He's found his tongue lately...it looks like he's trying to fold it over or stick it out of his mouth. It's hilarious to watch. He's also found out how to rotate himself around in a circle while he's sitting...he moves one leg then the other till he has gone 360 degrees. And one other thing that is funny to watch is he has started bending over while he is sitting so that it looks like he is trying to hear what his knee is trying to tell him. He's finally figured out that he can do this to look around corners too. too funny!!
Gotta go. He's starting to complain.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 14, 2005, 16:02:04 pm
Traci: we've been trying to drop the catnap here too. but i think it was backfiring and Jack was just ending up overtired. Because on days that he didn't have a catnap he would wake 2-3 times over the night needing help at least once to resettle and would only sleep 10 hours overnight. But with a catnap he only woke once overnight (after 45 min-and needed help to resettle) then didn't wake again until 6 am (talked to himself for about 10 min.) then woke for the day at 7:15am. So in total got about 11 hours of sleep. And seems it better spirits this am. So I don't think Jack is quite ready to drop the catnap. Soon, but not quite.
Post by: Judy on December 14, 2005, 16:22:22 pm
Traci - gosh girl it's really rough over there right now isn't it? I'm guessing it's a group of things, teeth, seperation anxiety, maybe dependence too now on patting... but it's hard to avoid that. I still have times I'll pat Hannah and I think "gosh am I going to regret this?" but in the end I just want her to sleep NOW and I ignore the future. Really, try getting some chamomilla... last night I gave it to both girls and they went right out to sleep after that. Both of them have top teeth coming in and they are taking their sweet time poking through I tell ya. :(
Andrea that tooth story gave me chills. Ick. Especially when you said the dentist pushed it back into place. Yikes.
Nikki I've been on mothering.com - I think I read some birth stories on there and remember one gal who of course living naturally didn't have u/s etc. during her pregnancy and had a home birth only to discover THEN that she had twins!!! OMG!!! What a shock but how cool of an experience would that be (once past the shock!)
Hayley - um yup!! once Daniel grows up your days of a perfect tree are done. Well maybe not - you'll just need to adjust what 'perfect' is. I guess it depends on your approach too - I know some people who would hand their children a couple decorations and give advice as to where it might go... being busy with Kaia and Hannah - Zoe and Sarah just took over and decorated it for me. I didn't have the heart to change a thing. Until of course it fell over the SECOND time and then last night I distributed a few things to balance the weight a bit better. But honestly I always put one ball per spot but Zoe had a great idea of putting 2 or 3 together and I quite like it. :) I want Christams to be fun and special for them and how fun can it be if we're always harping "don't touch that!!!" ?? At worst dh said he tie the tree to a nail in the wall if it fell over again.
Ok how's this for bad... ok Kaia and Hannah are never put in front of the tv to watch but they HEAR a lot of Dora and of course they've seen it. Yesterday they wake from a nap and I start to feed. Hannah latches on but Kaia is beside herself screaming. Her gum hurt so feeding was painful but she wanted to feed, but didn't KWIM? So she's screaming and I can't get her to stop - pick her up, try to feed again, I can't get up and walk with her because Hannah is latched on. So... cue up the theme song to Dora as Z&S put in a video and suddenly she stops and looks for the tv. She stopped cold.... and then lay down and fed. :oops:
Micky - yay for Jackson getting his cast off Monday!!! You'll have to tell us all about his reaction if he has one. I wonder if he'll be amazed to have his legs back in his conrol more.
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 17:14:46 pm
It's so hard to get rid of the pat. Today I just put my hand firmly on his bum when he looked as though he's going to settle. And he insists on holding my hands. If i pull them away he starts up all over again. Should I just stay firm and continue with pupd? And who was it that mentioned it should just be PD? If he sits up is that considered UP enough? Or do you think it has to be standing. He'll sit up with his arms out and sobbing so I'll lay him back down again. And sometimes he doesn't get up but is flailing his arms and legs on his back so I'll turn him on his side. Is this not a good idea?
Going to get lunch and review BWSAYP now.
I hope I've posted all my questions. I thought of a hundred while getting him down just now :roll:
OH-and I just posted my Canadian cards yesterday...
Post by: mickymuscles on December 14, 2005, 17:23:39 pm
7:00am wake
7:30 eat (solids/formula)
9:30 sleep
10:30/10:45 awake
11:00 eat (solids/formula)
130/2:00 sleep-usually only 45min sometimes 1 hour
2:30/3pm eat (formula)
5pm sleep - 30 min
6pm eat (solids/formula)
7pm bath and bed by 8pm at the latest.
Some days his A time can be longer between 1st and 2nd nap because if I keep him occupied or lots of people over or somedays he just doesn't show sleepy cues then we end up with out a catnap but he doesn't have restful night sleep then. HTH
Post by: mickymuscles on December 14, 2005, 17:24:09 pm
Post by: kq on December 14, 2005, 17:53:42 pm
Traci-you are doing a fantastic job. I know how judgement goes out the window when you are tired and you just keep at it, wanting the best for Cole! You deserve the biggest hug and pat on the back for it :!: :!: Now, our routine is pretty much like Micky's with regards to catnap. So long as I have about 2 hours between catnap and bedtime, we are OK. Some days, Sam only has 20 minutes but that means that he is not overtired. I aim for catnap of 30 minutes to get him through dinner, short play, bath, Bf then bed. Bedtime is between 6.30 and 6.45 pm and the latest I put him down for a catnap is 4.45 pm.
Micky and Lisa, I got your cards and was soo excited. I got home from work after a long shift and there is was. Made my day!
I posted mine 2 days ago so hopefully it gets to you ladies in Canada and the States in time.
Judy and Nikki, love how you both parent! Christmas must be so fun at your house. You are right about how our childhoods form our expectations, my mum was a perfectionist and everything had to be perfect. I am not quite so anal but I still feel like I need to relax a bit more. Sam has dribbled over every Christmas present and tried to unwrap them. I keep sticking things down again. That is his contribution to the Christmas proceedings this year.
Hannah, so scary about Sophie, I would play that over and over in my head too. Dh calls it "conditioning" for when Sam starts to walk and take tumbles.
Cathy, :evil: :evil: ! How could people just ignore a 100 year old woman calling for help?!!!
Off to work again. You know you are addicted when...sitting here in my robe posting. Not even had brekky yet.
Miss you all today.
Karen
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 17:55:18 pm
and yes, helping Andrea and the others out on the nap board. I'm just hoping I know what to say to people. I think the "super" part comes from my huge number of posts per day. LOL!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 14, 2005, 18:09:39 pm
Judy, that is so funny about Dora music calming Kaia down.
Well we had a break through last night!!!!! BOTH of my kids decided to sleep through (well by a bit of a stretch of the imagination :lol: ). With Nathan I decided to give him a jiggle at 10pm when I went to bed and didn't hear a peep out of him until 5.35am. Danielle woke at 11pm (which was really strange, she never wakes before 1am) so anyway I resettled with jiggling/heavy hand - took maybe 1/2hr, she was just really restless and (probably too hot, it's been so stuffy) but then didn't hear a peep out of her until 6am. And yay, I got a solid sleep from 11.30-5am. WOW :D :shock: Now I'm wondering whether to do wake to sleep tonight...
Post by: solnme on December 14, 2005, 18:17:55 pm
Got xmas cards from Ankie and Micky (haven't ckecked today) Thank you. Mine went out yesterday.
Lisa/Hannah - we've gone down to 3 feedings a day as well. Mainly because Sol refused to take his 11:30 BF. At first I was so frustrated and thought it was me cause it took a long time for me to get milk so I switched to a bottle. Now he won't take that either.
He also decided that he didn't want to be woken up for his DF 4 nights ago so we stopped cold turkey. THe first 2 mornings he woke early between 5-6 but has gone back to his normal wake up. Here is our sched. now.
7:00 wake up-BF
8:00 solids
9:15 nap
10:30 rarely 11 wake up
12:00 lunch
2:00 bottle
2:30/3 nap
4:30 wake up
5:00 solids
6:30 bath/book
7 BF - bed
The trip to Seattle was fun, thanks for asking but we had some sleep issues when we got back. Tried what Andrea suggested and OMG it is so hard!!! But it did work and I found it took about 3 minutes for him to stop screaming and another 3 before he was quiet.
Micky - yay Jackson! 6 weeks did go by quick.
Hayley - I had to read that ditty 3 times to really let it sink in. I don't like clutter or mess and lately DH has needed reminders of what he should be doing around the house. I HATE that. Dh says: "Dah, ok... what needs to be done?" How about LOOKING AROUND! Not that hard to figure out.
Uh oh... I feel a rant coming on. Was really looking forward to going to my bros. in Portland. He has his 2 daughters over the holidays. We tried to schedule it so we have 4 days with them there and remain 3 more days after they return home. Turns out dates have changed and we're all there on the same days. Love, love, love the girls but they are 9 and 13 and require lots of their aunts attention. My brother and his wife like to disappear sometimes (like you wake up in the morning and they're gone. no note and cell phones off) so the girls end up hanging out with me most of the time. But I soooooo need a break. I just want to wake up and have people make me tea, nibble on breakfast chocolate and take a morning nap. Last time we went in the summer and they did that I took a fit and everyone just looked at me and blinked. It's pointless trying to change it but my relaxing week is now out the window.
Thanks so much for listening if you got this far. Really needed that.
Happy naps everyone!
Post by: solnme on December 14, 2005, 18:24:00 pm
Traci - Look at you Super Mod! So many babies to guide, you'll be great!
Nikki - way to sleep! :D
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 14, 2005, 18:24:01 pm
Hayley--thanks for the poem. Someone wrote that in my card for one of my baby showers. I had never heard it before, and I love it!!! Thanks for reminding me of it.
Micky--I laughed out loud at the mental picture of Jackson "listening to what his knees have to say." That's hilarious!
Well, I should go wake Liv, she's been asleep for 2.75 now, and it's time for lunch. We took her to the mall yesterday afternoon. She did FABULOUS, but it wore her out. She only got a couple SHORT catnaps in the stroller.
Have a great day everyone...off to make lunch for my LO.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 14, 2005, 18:24:05 pm
Thanks for the feedback on bottles, I realised Daniel was drinking lots, but it was such a sudden change. I've gone back to bottle first thismorning, but then I'll give him lunch first then bottle. So slowly change the pattern.
He woke at 6am thismorning, earliest in ages, wouldn't stop talking! 30 mins later when I went to him I found out what he'd been saying "Come and change my nappy - it stinks down there!!!" Oops, bad mummy! :oops: He didn't pooh yesterday afternoon so I should have expected it. Wasn't so good as DH was out at an airforce end of year function and didn't get in until 2am so I spent a lot of time lying awake wondering when he'd be home. It was on base so I needed worry, but I do anyway. I knew the concert (Feelers) had finished about 10.30pm so you gotta wonder. I should have known a party had started up at someone's house.
Judy - whatever works I say!! I have to admit we use B.Einstein quite often during the 'witching hour' between 5-6pm. Daniel just quietens and settles as soon as it's on. And as much as my tree won't look perfect, Christmas with children makes Christmas even more special than normal, so I won't mind sharing my tree. :D I guess......
Micky - how wonderful to have Jacks casts off on Monday. Now the adventures will really begin with having his legs back. It won't be long till he's moving, Daniel started by bum rotating too and within a short time.... today DH is hopefully doing some more baby proofing! Everything is now fair game!
Gotta go, someone's wanting breakfast.
Love to you all.
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 18:24:27 pm
Andrea-I was wondering about that-is it to settle for the night, or just for wakings? Should I put him down and leave then and do the count? I tried it for nap and it didn't work...but I think my A time was off, put down too early. Maybe until I figure out my A times it would only be fair to stay with him.
Macaire-was it you reminding us to cuddle with our los? Thank you for that. Dare I say I needed reminding. I've just been so focussed on sleep that I've forgotten to enjoy my little boy. We did cuddle the other day. He sat in my lap while we watched BE Santas. It was nice.
okay, poopy diaper and I'm heading to the mall. Must get out and get a bit of shopping done.
oh-Holly is up north at her moms. Don't think she'd mind me posting. She got Brady's cold so she's up there getting some much needed rest. I think she'll check in Thursday or Friday.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 14, 2005, 18:53:25 pm
If I can join a toy library and get 'new' toys every 2 weeks for Daniel to enjoy is this going to promote the need for lots of new toys all the time when he's older?
I can see he's getting a little bored with the ones we have now that he's been playing with for a couple of months now, even the interactive ones that you push things and stuff pops out etc. But we don't want to fall into the trap of having hundreds of toys and a child that needs/wants different toys all the time. A friend has leant me some of hers which I need to give back (the more interactive ones) and they go to the library weekly for her 3 yr old. He's got soooo many toys they have to store them in a number of boxes.
With Christmas coming I'm sure he'll get a couple more, but it's more of an ongoing thing.
What's a sensible approach that isn't going to have expensive repercutions in the future, but at that same time keeps him interested and stimulated?
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 14, 2005, 19:32:20 pm
Thanks so much for all of you condolences! I talked to my Grandpa today and he said the funeral went as well as it could and that everyone is doing pretty good. I feel abd about not going but a 4 hr car ride there and then 4 hours home with Carter doesn't sound that do-able to me especially since we have to do next week anyway!!
I mailed my international cards today!!! The Canadian ones I mailed a few days ago and the US ones were supposed to be mailed last week but ... DH forgot! He was going to mail them from work (in Detroit) for faster delivery but he just remebered today!!!! I hope they all get there in time! I got a card from Kate today and I love the picture of Ryan!! So cute!!!
Micky: YEAH ... no more casts (soon). That did go by really fast!! On another note, seems weird to think that we were in labour at the same time!!!
Roz: I hope your holiday turns out to be relaxing like you hoped. There is nothing worse than being stressed over the holidays.
Nikki: Congrats and both sleeping through!!!! Now, if they will only do it all the time!! :lol:
Traci: I was thinking about you and Cole today when I was driving home form the post office. You are one very strong lady!! When Carter starts nightwakings, after 2 days I am a wreck! I have no patience when I am short on sleep. I get cranky and teary and am just not a nice person to be around. So, you deserve a medal or something for dealing with this for 3 weeks!!! I truly hope it gets better and soon. Maybe you should ask for that for Christmas!!! :lol: Oh ya, congrats on the Super Mod!!!
Hayley: I know what you mean about DH giving you a hard time about being on the computer! Every time DH walks in the office and sees me on the computer he goes "So are you a moderator yet?" in this really sarcastic voice :roll: Men eh!?? I don't think he even knows what a moderator is! However, he does think that he is pretty funny :roll:
Oops, someone's tired ... brb!!
Ok, Carter's down for nap # 2!! By looking at everyone's schedule, I am feeling like a bad momma :oops: I keep Carter up way later than any other baby. I hope I'm not doing something wrong :( It seems to work, here's our schedule:
7:15-7:30 - wakeup and BF
8:30 - cereal & fruit
10:00 - nap
11:30 - wakeup and bf
12:30 - veggie/meat & fruit
2:30 - nap
4:00 - wakeup and bf
5:30 - veggie & fruit & 1/2 cookie
7:00 - cereal & bath
7:45 - bottle of ebm, bf and bed by 8:15 (at the latest)
I am trying to move his bedtime up a bit (it used to be 9:00pm!!) but then he gets up super early. Now that I have finally gotten him away from early wakings and night wakings because of hunger I am going to try and move his bed time up a bit. I have to go back to work in Feb and I won't get home at night until 7:00 and DH isn't home until 6:30 most nights so I don't want his bed time too early KWIM?
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 14, 2005, 19:55:06 pm
My day is kind of similar, but starts about 6.30am. Daniel's day looks like this:
6.30am wake up and talk in cot
7.00am bottle
7.45am yoghurt & cereal/fruit
9.00am Nap 1
10.30am wake up
11.00am bottle
11.45am lunch (veges and/or fruit and cracker/toast)
1.30pm Nap 2
2.30am Wake up
3.00pm Bottle
4.30pm Meat and veges
6.15pm Bath
6.50pm Bottle
7.00pm Sleep
Now this has been what's happening, but I'm just mucking around changing it so solids is first. Also, with his new movement in cot, sometimes he's taking longer to go to sleeps so everything is pushed out. I'm also finding he can stretch to 3h 15m betweeen the 2 naps now and he's settling quicker. I'm just reading that cue at the time.
Just put D down for first nap, wouldn't settle, very tired though. Suddenly realised I had him wearing more clothes than he did to bed a night. So got him up, gave him some water (2 slurps) stripped him down to nappy and back into his sleeping bag. I think he's now asleep. Phew! I thought was in for a difficult one but it turned out ok after all. We've got coffee group thismorning, so didn't want him to start his nap too late.
Better go get ready for the day.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 14, 2005, 20:17:15 pm
6-6.30 wake
9am nap (1hr)
1pm nap (1.5-2hrs)
7pm bedtime
Hayley, don't really have any suggestions about toys, I found when Nathan was moving more (ie crawling/pulling up/cruising) he actually wasn't into sitting down and playing with toys anyway. He got all his stimulation and learning about the house and about being active (drawers, cupboards, doors, curtains, pulling washing off the drying rack, pulling books off bookshelves) - toys would have been a waste of time. LOL :lol:
Judy, have you visited the Gentle Discipline forum at MDC? There is a discussion there about Unconditional Parenting which is where I first learnt about that concept.
Post by: kate585 on December 14, 2005, 20:44:59 pm
Cathy, I agree with Nikki. Don't mess with your schedule unless you need to. Seems like he's doing great to me! Ryan goes down between 7 and 8:30 depending on his day, naps, activity level, etc. Like this am, I woke him up at 8:00 and yesterday he was up just before 7. So, this fluctuating wake up changes all his naps and bedtime. Since I'm usually home, it doesn't really matter. He sleeps about 1.5-3.5 hours during the day and he's getting 11-13 hours of sleep at night, so I'm not messin' with it! 8)
Andrea, great suggestion for the counting to 100 thing. I am always waiting outside the door to see if he'll calm down, but have never "timed" myself to see how long I wait. He usually cries a bit (like for nap # 1 it was "Wah! Wahhh! Wah! and then silence) but if it's a HUGE cry, I'll let him go for about 20 secs. or so and then go in. This will be nice to have more guidance and a way to measure it, if that makes sense.
Roz, sorry your week got mixed up. I would talk to your brother about it before you get there. Say, "Now that Sol is here, I won't be able to spend as much alone time with the girls. Just wanted to let you know how much I've appreciated our quality time in the past, but it can't happen this trip." Or some such thing. Much easier to discuss it ahead of time so he knows what to expect. Or, you could ask him what the plans are for the girls' trip. See that he plans something special for them to do each day that he'll need to be involved in and you'll never get dumped on again (not that you seemed to mind, of course). How's that for unsolicited advice! :oops:
Ryan went for his 9 month check up today. He is doing great, but is going down some in his percentages (Weight (23 lbs).: 80%, Length(30 1/4in.): 95%). He used to be 90% and 97% respectively and when I asked the doctor if I should be worried that the #'s are getting smaller, he said, "He's just moving closer to normal." :shock: Excuse me, doctor, I believe the word should have been average, you schmuck!
Other than that, we've done pretty well today. I even took Ryan to see Santa and he did GREAT! They let me use my own camera, so I'll post a pic later.
Edit: Here is a link to the pics: http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=322984#322984
(for some reason it goes to the middle of the page...but there are a few other cute shots above. :oops: )
Must go clean the bathroom...it's just not the cleanest place to be right now. :?
Post by: Colesmom on December 14, 2005, 21:17:49 pm
I'm making progress. He fought nap 3 a little bit, but I didn't pat, just put my hand on his bum when he looked ready to settle. And I only PD when he stood up. he was crying at first then took to doing laps of his crib. I was going to stop him but remembered the discussion here about los settling so I left him. he then cried and stood up and I just said time for sleep and held his hip firmly down. He grabbed at my hand, but not as much as before so I hope that within a few days he'll make progress to settling without me touching him at all, and soon enough i'll be able to get out of the room again!
to be honest, i like this 30 min. break for me too during catnap. I can get his dinner ready without him getting into things he shouldn't or me chasing him around. and have my cup of tea while i'm at it. okay, speaking of his dinner...should probably go get it ready. gotta wake him in five.
Post by: kate585 on December 14, 2005, 21:26:04 pm
GOOD LUCK TONIGHT!!!! I'm hoping that catnap will be the perfect thing to get him to bed later, sleep longer through the night, and sleep later! I know you said you're sort of liking his early bedtime, but a 7:00 bedtime and 7:00 wake up will feel simply divine!
Post by: Erin M on December 14, 2005, 22:31:01 pm
Let's see....Hayley - this made me laugh
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DH was out at an airforce end of year function and didn't get in until 2am so I spent a lot of time lying awake wondering when he'd be home.as I am EXACTLY the same way (and really very laid back otherwise). I have GOT to calm down before Katie gets old enough to go out with her friends.
Judy - saw your comments on another post about discipline - to you and Nikki both - whose discipline philosophy do you like? (Basically what books do you like?) I'm beginning to realize that stage will be here sooner than later with how fast time goes these days!
Kate - our days actually look a whole lot like yours. Katie goes to bed anytime between 7:15 and 8:30 and is up generally sometime between 7-8. When I work on Mondays, I generally don't get home until 8:15 or so, and DH is no good at getting her to bed ontime. He seems to wait for me to put her in her crib. Weekends too tend to be later days.
Traci - good luck with your sleeping tonight. I know you'll be an excellent sleep mod as well! Oh, and thanks for the update on Holly - I was worried after she mentioned how sick Brady was and then disappeared!
Nikki - Hooray for the sleep. Hope you get some more tonight.
Kate - your pictures are great! I love them! I got one of Katie and Santa yesterday, but it's not digital, so I'll have to find someone with a scanner.
Roz - I like Kate's (unsolicited :D ) advice. Maybe he's just needs it spelled out for him that things are different now.
Judy - LOL about Dora. Hey, look at it this way - she's learning Spanish!
Micky - Hooray for Jackson! I too would love to see his reaction to getting his legs back.
OK, I am apologizing right now for the late cards I haven't sent out yet. The Kodak site is giving my grief about printing the pictures since they look professional (they were taken by a retired professional photographer, but I am related to him) and they need proof I'm not violating any sort of copyright. So, I sent them the proof and they haven't gotten back to me :evil: -- at this point, since the international ones are going to be late anyway, I'm waiting for the pics.
It's 5:30 and Katie is sleeping. She took a whopping 20 minute nap at daycare this morning, then we had to drop DH off at the train (meeting in NYC tonight), so she didn't get down for her nap until about 4:15. Since she's so short on sleep today anyway, I think I'll just let her sleep for a bit more and if she needs to stay up later, so be it.
Thanks for being here ladies.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 14, 2005, 23:20:51 pm
Cathy--our schedule is very similar to yours. Liv is up 2.75-3 hrs at a time. Otherwise, I only get 30-45 miin naps out of her. I agree, you shouldn't worry about the schedule unless it's not working. And it sounds like it is!
Off to make dinner...then making Christmas candy tonight with a friend. (She's coming here and we're making it after Liv goes to bed.) Not exactly a night out, but will still be loads of fun!
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 00:06:08 am
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Judy, have you visited the Gentle Discipline forum at MDC? There is a discussion there about Unconditional Parenting which is where I first learnt about that concept.
No I haven't but that gal in charge over there - is it Crystal? Who wrote the book... anyway she's been to the Unconditional Parenting board and wow!! Big nasty fight. Sadie - is she there and pretty vocal??? She and Crystal really got in to it... Crystal doesn't bother with the UP site anymore. There was a lot of TCS (taking children seriously) folks over at UP, they've left for now but they tend to go really far the other way - like if your child doesn't want to go in the carseat perhaps they don't go in the carseat?? Forcing them in or bribing them would be considered horrible things to DO TO a child. I like the UP site because it stretches me WAAAAY the other way from timeouts and such but it goes much farther than I ever will be able to. But as I said the TCS folks have left recently so the site's kinda boring now. I liked the challenge they provided really.
UP is so different than my upbringing which was the ultimate in control and manipulation. It's hard, a struggle often but I'm really convinced the UP is a great way to parent.
That all said I did rant at Zoe tonight when she threw her mini go on the floor because she opened it and it didn't have water lying on the top?? I asked her to clean it up and she did. *deep breath* then she refused the supper I made, again, got salad didn't like it so tossed it in the sink after I suggested leaving it for dh who might want it when he got home, then decided she was having raisins for supper :roll: (what could I do? I was trying to eat my own salad while nursing Kaia and spooning food into Hannah) but then decided after eating a couple that they were meant for the garbage.. so I went on a bit of a 'you're wasting a lot of food' rant :( miserable mother that I am. I try to remain calm on the outside but sometimes I'm really ticked on the inside and feel rather guilty about that. :( I'm really just so sick of making suppers - no one eats them or someone complains and I think I'm a rather good cook to be honest. DH is extremely picky - casserole? No way would he even taste one!! So the girls are becoming more and more and MORE picky. They had to open a can of soup last night because I told dh I wasn't interested in the whole hassle of thinking up a meal and cooking it anymore. :)
Wow - how was that for a rant, just from a simple question. I guess I could have just said "no haven't seen the site" :) sorry :oops:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 15, 2005, 00:36:44 am
So Erin, in response to your question, I just read a bunch of stuff on other websites which don't involve the punitive route, I don't believe in smacking (spanking), time outs just don't really cut it (tried it and ditched the idea) otherwise Nathan would live in TO if you crack down on every little thing (read: me controlling him), I have found other effective methods for hitting/kicking me or Danielle (he's not aggressive by nature). Most of my info has come from the discipline forum here on BW. I've found it's a forever changing thing though and also as Nathan gets older and I alter my methods. I don't always get it right and we have some real doozy days, but the days I find myself yelling and him yelling - if I step back, it's *usually* all about me and how I'm handling the situation. For example, it does take a lot though to get over the fact that things being dumped on the floor constantly doesn't actually matter, yes drives me nuts (and I think that's my problem, I still inherently believe it's wrong perhaps???) but I keep my mouth shut mostly.
Phew. :)
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 15, 2005, 01:23:03 am
Traci - Well done with Cole's last nap. Sounds like progress to me.
Post by: Jayri on December 15, 2005, 01:23:30 am
Thank you to michelle(ABsweetpea) and Kate for your lovely cards.
Thing have been getting harder and harder in our home a night. Jay is good, getting worn out being at daycare. Riley on the other hand has been having issues with seperation from me coupled with the possibility of teeth coming in.
She now takes anywhere from 1/2hr - last night, to 2 1/2 hrs to pd. By this I mean almost nonstop screaming.
BUT, we do have progress, sun and mon, she wouldn't go to sleep unless on the boob, last night she went in my arms, and tonight I tried laying next to her on my bed, but she wanted to roll until her head was on my arm. So I think she is slowly weaning off of needeing me to sleep.
Work is good, I am to be on the phones taking calls on monday, I am getting nervous as I will be dealing with peoples travel reservations, and I am scared of screwing it all up. I will get there tho, help is never far away...or so they tell us....lol
I was wondering, would you all mind if I mailed you all your cards, since they are all done and put pics up here of the kids for you all. Time seems to be slipping thru my fingers. Let me know and I will get them in the mail by friday, sorry they are late!!!!!!
BTW hannah, thank you for wondering where I was, perked up my day when I read that this morning. How is it all going for you!!!!!
I hope that come by christmas, next week can you believe, I will have more time to read and come here more often.
Thanks for being so awesome girls......
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 15, 2005, 01:39:57 am
Hayley, I personally have *issues* with supernanny and her naughty chair LOL. That is the style of parenting I probably started with (minus the naughty stool though) and it just doesn't sit right with me anymore. I do like the fact that all those programmes do try and give strategies other than smacking and yelling. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with parenting like Supernanny advises, I've just found other ways that empower children to problem solve and help work on the end result (ie an well functioning adult) through means other than you do as I say kwim? Check out the Socialisation/Discipline forum here, and on http://www.mothering.com look at the Gentle Discipline forum. Just read and you'll start to form an idea of what you want to do. I have the BW Toddler book that gives some good starts, but once again, I'm moving away from that a little.
HTH
Sorry, not much help there.
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 01:56:08 am
From there I moved on to Love & Logic but even that became too manipulative - big on timeouts, implemented when a child's behaviour couldn't be controlled by the parent. Really not a whole lot different than smacking just gentler. I then happened across a book called Unconditional Parenting which I've really taken to. It's board though, as I said was somewhat taken over by TCS (taking children seriously) people who are waaay off in the other extreme. They wouldn't coerce their child to do anything and honestly I'm just at a mental loss as to how to accomplish certain things without some level of coercion (although limiting it as much as possible is a goal I strive for)
I'm sorry I'm not explaining very well or being very clear... kinda tired tonight and my brain is mushy.
Post by: Jayri on December 15, 2005, 02:12:35 am
k.....I will pop on in the morning to "see" and will hopefully have time to post and say hi tomorrow night.
Let me know about the pic thing girls......
Post by: kate585 on December 15, 2005, 03:09:07 am
http://www.babywhisperer.com/forum/1-vt47549.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
It's about all the hard parts of motherhood. Really a long vent session, but somewhat good to read and to feel normal about some of the same emotions (boredom, resentment, anger at dh, etc.)
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 15, 2005, 03:46:37 am
Keeping up but no time to post. Talk to y'all soon.
Hannah
Yeah Kate...WTF?? If you are going to be freinds with those posters, I'm not gonna be your friend anymore :P :wink:
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 03:54:57 am
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 15, 2005, 04:40:06 am
I started reading about 10 pages back and my email kept dinging that there were new posts... :oops: I haven't had a chance to get on here much lately.
Roz... the people for the open house are friends and DH's co-workers. These are only the people who made it... I had over 10 families not make it. I just don't know who I can "un-invite" as this is an annual thing, KWIM?
I received some cards... Thanks Kate, Michelle and Roz! I love getting mail that aren't bills. :roll: Funny... I expected Micky's card first as it was the first one mentioned and she only lives "next door" but I love not having it cuz it means more mail!! (Sad life I lead, eh?)
Naomi and Hannah... glad work is going well for both of you.
Hannah... no duct tape here but I hear licking an icy pole during recess solves the talking problem :wink: .
Traci, hang in there with the sleeps and congrats on the moderator status. I wondered when you would become one. You are very well suited to the job.
You wanted to know about A times. Arwyn is a 6:30-6:30 girl.
6:30 wake
7 BF
8 Solids
9 nap (1hr - 1.25 hr)
11 BF
12 Solids
1 nap (1.25 hr - 1.75 hr)
3 BF
5 Solids
5:30 Bath
6:00 - 6:20 BF
6:30 Sleep
She is usually a mess by 5:30 as we have no catnap here. We are nursing right before bed as well. Sometimes she falls asleep, sometimes she doesn't. Until we have a longer second nap that goes later in the day (currently ends at 2:30 ish), I don't know how to tweak her schedule. I am considering dropping her 11 am BF as she doesn't take very much then. HTH
Cathy... sorry to hear about your Great Grandma :cry: How sad that people ignored her when she asked for help. How could people be so apathetic that they ignore an elderly lady in distress? So heartwrenching.
Oh... sleep. I get some but only in 2 hour ish chunks. I no longer do a true DF and let her wake for it (I also read and considered Weissbluth's rationale). She wakes between 2:30 and 4. Don't know why she wakes but I know she can drop this on her own. She did it a couple of weeks back 2 nights in a row. I would really appreciate that right now... I can handle the wakings before I go to sleep but the 2 hour chunks of sleep are killing me!
If Arwyn cries in the night, I feed at the first waking. Then pu/pd for the other wakings. It is hit and miss for how long it takes me. Sometimes I "catch" her before she is fully awake and it is a breeze. Sometimes I wait to see if she can settle herself and she wakes too much and then it is a LONG time :roll: . I am really tempted to try the count to 100 thing but I am scared it will turn into a marathon pu/pd session.
Days are great over here though. Naps are going well. She allows me to extend them (I cheat and hold her back to sleep cuz I love it and it only takes me 3 or 4 minutes) but most of the time, she does the whole nap on her own. This alone, has made up for the miserable nights (almost :wink: ). I also love that she is so curious now. I spend all day watching her as she gets into everything but I love it. Yes, the house is a mess, the laundry is piling up and I am extremely lazy about getting dinners on the table (my average is getting dinner on the table about once a week). My DH and I just kind of make do with what is in the fridge... currently, it is leftovers from the open house and a few individual pasta casseroles I've made. I just have been feeling like I don't want to miss a minute of her discovery. It is very selfish of me, I know... but I just love watching her.
Thanks for the BFing rhyme, Hayley. I love it... and it is a beautiful reminder to cherish what is important.
Okay, this post is long enough... I promise to get on here more often!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 15, 2005, 04:59:38 am
kate...i feel used! :cry: :lol:
We had a visit to santa today. Jack did really well. After my big long post I went back and read it...it sounded like I was trying to type so fast before I forgot everything. So very conscise and to the point. I didn't seem to elaborate on very many of my points....oh well. That's what I get for having swiss cheese for abrain. I use to pride myself on having such a good memory! LOL about it now!!! :lol:
Anyways....I got Jack to take a caatnap today but I fell asleep at the same time and he ended up sleeping way too long!!! He should have been up from his nap around 5:30-5:45pm. he ended up waking up (and me) at 6:30!!!! :shock: Needless to say I had a hard time getting him down for the night. hopefully he'll have a good night tonight!! :roll: Oh well, my own fault. :roll:
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0672.jpg)
Post by: mickymuscles on December 15, 2005, 05:05:31 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 15, 2005, 06:19:07 am
Well Danielle's finally remembered that she CAN roll from her back to tummy (for a few weeks she stopped doing it), but she's never bothered to figure out rolling back. SOOO, now she's also realised she can roll in bed and for her nap got herself stuck after mucking around in there for 20mins, so a quick flip over and off to the land of nod she went. Anyway, at bed tonight, she flipped straight onto her tummy and went to sleep, so will be interesting to see what happens later on. :? Here's hoping for another sleep through tonight.
Post by: james030405 on December 15, 2005, 12:07:39 pm
How come when you have two men in your life (DH & DS) that one can make you feel happy and great and the other can make you want to cry :cry: :roll:
I have had a great day with James (DS) all naps and at bedtime he went down without a fuss. We had loads of fun playing etc.
DH comes home in a foul mood :evil: but eventually gets better, but then complains becasue I don't want to have sex :oops: Is this too personal for this page? I hope not, I;m sitting here reading the relationship forum and i realise I have a fantastic DH, but sometimes.............. :oops: :evil: :cry: :?
Anyway, enough of me, had better go to bed. Hope everyone has a better day/night.
sorry for getting too personal - I feel a little embarrassed :oops: now that I have written it. Should I post.....oh well, what are friends for.
Chat soon
Love Lisa
mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 15, 2005, 14:25:07 pm
We had a good night here which I was surprised about. DH had to get up at 5:00am to leave for work (business trip to Ohio) and Carter didn't even wake up which is amazing. I hope his drive is ok considering all this snow.
Ankie: I know what you mean about enjoying the cuddling etc when they are sleeping. Carter has never been one to fall asleep on me or DH but lately right before I put him in his crib he will burrow into my neck and hug me .... so priceless!! I LOVE it!!! It won't be long before they don't even want to be seen with us :cry:
Micky: Love the picture with Santa!!!
Nikki: Carter also seems to have forgotten about rolling! He will go back to tummy but not the other way around! Weird ...
Lisa: Sounds like I had the same kind of night as you did!!! I would say it wasn't too personal for this thread considering everything else we talk about :shock: :D
Well, someone has snot all over his face and is sick of his jitter buggy so talk later!!!
Post by: Erin M on December 15, 2005, 15:12:47 pm
Judy/Nikki - thanks for the discipline comments - never watched Supernanny here, but I have watched Nanny 911 and while I don't agree with all of it, I've always liked the fact that they advocate acknowledging the kids' feelings and giving them a voice too - and they get people to stop yelling and hitting which is always nice too.
Naomi - good to see you! What a crazy time of year to be starting a new job!
Ankie - You are me these days! I have cooked dinner approximately once in the past week, my house was a wreck (I did get a chance to do some cleaning), and I too have been snuggling and just watching Katie these days. Katie, however, is more of a 7:30-7:30 girl (must be the time difference). Though I have been getting a bit more sleep - hope that sorts out soon.
Katie is playing peek-a-boo with me. She just crawled behind the door frame and keeps sticking her head behind it and then sticking it out and laughing hysterically at me. SO CUTE!
So, last night DH was in the city (New York City) at a business thing, and the trains got all screwed up and he was stuck in a station about a 25 minute drive from our house with NO means of getting home at 11 PM. So I packed up Katie in the car (it was 13 degrees out at the time!) and drove to get DH and she slept the whole way there, the whole way back, fell back to sleep with minimal fussing when we got home, and slept through (for only the second time in the past few weeks!). So, for all of you having sleep problems, pack your LOs into the car at 11, drive around for 45 minutes, come home, and put them in their cribs for the night. :D
Post by: Richelle on December 15, 2005, 15:25:39 pm
OMG, is all I have to say about the last 2 days, more on that later.....
Traci - I am so sad and disappointed that you and I didn't get to hav a 'live' chat. You will understand once I elaborate on my 'trip'. I too was wondering when you would become a SUPERMOD, what a great addition to the BW site!! You have the patience of a saint, i would have mailed Sophie to realtives already if she was keeping me up for the last 3 weeks and it sounds to me that you are on the right track and know what Cole needs. Keep up the good work!!
Judy - How can how you feel on the inside possibly make you feel guilty, you are only human and I tell you, I have never encountered such a well balanced mom/woman! Your girls are so lucky to have such a fun mommy!!
Micky - I can't wait to hear about Jack's reaction once he gets those casts off how exciting!!! I got your card and it is great I can'[t believe you made them, "Martha"!!
Ankie - It is so great to hear that Arwyn is cutting you some slack! I secong whomever said.. "50 PEOPLE? What in the h#%^?".
Hannah - :cry: about Sophie's fall but she is a tough nut and I told my DH, who doesn;t seem to think Sophie is capable of flipping off the change table :roll: , now he is being more vigilent, lessons learned for everyone I suppose.
Kate - What great pictures and :o about your ped saying 'normal'?
Andrea - Such great advice everyone has giving you regarding TAKING IT EASY!! You have alot on the go but I don't think anyone expects you to be a super woman!!
Speaking of overwhelmed that is the only way I can describe how I am feeling right now.
First off, Sophie and I woke up to fly out on Tuesday morning with COLDS!! I honestly couldn' t believe it. I was late getting to the airport in Saskatoon for getting Sophie some medicine but forgot to get myself some, BIGMISTAKE!! Oh and we flew out in the beginnings of a blizzard, so driving to the airport was a nightmare. Trying to check in Sophie has the poo of all poo's :shock: :roll: , miss "only goes once a day after lunch", I couldn't believe it. The flight is not too bad for Sophie but myt head near exploded, I felt terrible!
We get to Toronto and it is soooo busy, it took me an hour and a half to get my luggage and get to the exit. Sophie was at this point past supper, hungry and tired but we waited for the (*&#E^T*# airport shuttle for 45 minutes (every 15 minutes my ass!) Finally got in a 20 minute line for a taxi (20 bucks for 5 minute drive) later we get tp the hotel and the shuttle pulls in behind us, $^@%$^%!(O@*&*(!@*&@)(!*#^$%@^!(*!!
So, Traci - by the time we checked in I fed SOphie gave her a bath/bottle/medicine andtried to get her to sleep with her snuffly nose she couldn;t suck her fingers and settle! By the the time I get her to sleep I am stuck in a dark hotel room with not alot of options, namely talking on the phone, watching TV, eating ect... Plus I felt so terrible. We managed a very fitful sleep and then see above story re. trying to get to the Toronto airport but this time on my own and in blizzarding conditoins?? flight delayed blah blah.
So I get home to a different home :cry: that is in complete chaos, boxes and everywhere! I swear I could have clocked DH but at least her crib was put together *insert sarcastic emtiocon*.
Sophie and I feel better today but she is still Mrs. Boogers-Sneezerton and I just don't know where to begin with this house much less getting is Christmasized!! You know you are addicted to BW when you manage to get your laptop up and running and are typing away admist the CHAOS!!
Enough for now!! Thanks for listening!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 15, 2005, 15:28:01 pm
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She is usually a mess by 5:30 as we have no catnap hereI am reintroducing the catnap for a while in hopes to solve coles sleep issues. First time yesterday. I can't say it worked 100% but he slept well from 7-10:15 pm with only one waking at 7:45. I can't expect him to go back to normal after one catnap. Just wondering if the same might help Arwyn? As a result of the timing Cole went to bed at 7 last night. I think it will take a few days for me to tweak his A times again.
Micky-LOVE the pic. First Santa pic with his casts :oops:
Naomi-happy to see you here-sorry about your trouble with Ri. It will take time to adjust. How is the new caregiver?
well girls-we had wakings again. after what i said to ankie above he woke at 12:30, 2 something, 3:45-4:45 (fed at 4:20), 5:45, fed again expecting to be up for the day but he kept sleeping :? back down in crib but then woke up, fed other side, back down in crib but then woke up at 6:15. Gave him to DH, told him nap 8:45. DH gets me up at 8:00 because he has to shower. I notice Cole yawn and think hmmm, guess he was up at 5:45 and race to the crib doing a VERY fast "you are my sunshine, my only sunshine" plop him down and he slept 1.5 hours!!! I'm just hoping I can still squeeze in the catnap. Think I can. One thing I didn't miss with two naps was "nap math" trying to figure how to fit it all in.
I have to admit i did a lot of patting last night. probably why i was up so long. should have just done pupd but he was chewing on his hand and seemed uncomfortable. i even tried to hold him to sleep :oops: but he wasn't interested. kept squirming around
okay, cole was just super quiet and i thought, wow he's playing by himself well. I looked down and he's chewing on an electric plug cover :? told DH they weren't hard enough to put in!
This morning he started doing something a bit worrisome. He keeps dropping his head, as if to bang it. He's only banged it so far on my head :?
ooh, gotta go, up the stairs he goes!
Post by: Colesmom on December 15, 2005, 15:30:53 pm
I think he's waiting as he knows TTC is likely in the new year.
sorry to hear your good day went bad :cry:
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 16:12:51 pm
Balanced? Me? Gosh did you gals miss reading about the time *everyone* here was either crying or screaming at me? I sat here in my chair with my feet up on the wall the older girls down the hall screaming at me... I'm thinking 'ugh, I'd like to kick that wall. Probably not a good idea. Hmmm but I'd REALLY like to kick that wall.' and... well :oops: I did. Put a nice little hole in it then once Zoe discovered it she kept telling me over and over how she didn't like it there. :roll: Then when dh came home he asked Zoe if mommy did it by accident and she says "no it was on purpose" to which he proceeds to tell her to tell me that that is unacceptable blah blah blah... So I TRY to be balanced and fun but I have my moments when I feel like my head might pop. Trying to minimize these moments. So there you have it... :)
As for that travel experience oh my! What a mess. I'd be crabby coming home to a disordered house for sure. Being in a cluttered space bothers me but even more so if someone else has cluttered my stuff.
Ok so K&H woke at 5am (well they seemed to need repositioning a couple times earlier than that too - but a simple roll back to tummy was all that was needed. Why if they do it themselves prior to midnight does it require ME at 3am???) They weren't so interested in going back to sleep. Ugh - I wasn't so impressed at all. I HATE early morning wakeups. AND the older two are being woken by them and then they are overtired and it makes for a tough long day. Anyway, I fed at 5.30am ish, tried to get them back down. At 6am I sent dh in. At 7am he just got up with them. :) I got up and fed them breakfast at 8am and put them back to bed exhausted at 8.45am. Then they slept until I opened their door so they'd hear the noise at 10.45am!!!! So that's bf at 5.30 and now at 11am!! Yikes... could they not have just added on some to their night sleep? I'm giving up on keeping them on 4hrly... they've been doing a 5hr stretch at least once a day so now I'm just making sure we do 4bf and I don't care when they are. And I'm finding if they can be up for 3hrs or so they sleep much better and much longer. I had a 2.5hr nap the other day! (or THEY had)
Cathy we're supposed to get that big storm too.. had some flurries this am but nothing huge yet? In fact it's barely snowing here now. I heard that north of me though they were getting a ton, and I believe you are somewhat south of us as well as west... Hmmm?
Micky - I love that Santa pic. Nice chair Santa's got too!
Traci - TTC in the new year eh? Woo hooo ;)
Not me :)
Post by: Erin M on December 15, 2005, 16:34:39 pm
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they've been doing a 5hr stretch at least once a day so now I'm just making sure we do 4bf and I don't care when they are.- us too (well, except we do 2 bfs and 2 bottles).
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 15, 2005, 17:12:56 pm
Anyway, know that my heart rate has lowered itself from the roof I'd better get on with my day (you know, shower, get dressed ... all that tough :roll: stuff!!!)
Traci: My Dh is the same as yours, he keeps asking "so when are we going to have another baby? How 'bout NOW!" I keep telling him to wait until Mar/Apr!! Hopefully I will be back at work for like 2 weeks and get pregnant again ... that'll really make my boss mad!! Then I can quit at Christmas time (as I will have enough hours for mat leave again!) I can always dream!!!
Richelle: I am sorry that your trip home turned out to be such a mess! You both got colds and had to deal with Toronto traffic ... could it get any worse??!!
Ankie: Just got your card in the mail! Love the pic of Arwyn and Santa!!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 15, 2005, 17:26:58 pm
Richelle-Double hugs to you and Sophie. Part of me was VERY worried to tell the truth. Another part thought you might just be having a rough time with the snow and stuff. I certainly wasn't going to come on here and tell the girls I was worried and have 20 or more worried woman across the globe :shock: Happy you arrived safe, if not a little worse for wear.
Judy-please please cut yourself some slack. You are certainly entitled to a little frustration now and then. And yes, in a perfect world you wouldn't have kicked in the wall in front of the kids, but I mean really :shock: I think we can all say we are happy to have you as a "mommy mentor" and that you'll be around for us as our los grow up to show us the ropes!
well, Cole just went down for nap two after only 2.5 A again :shock: I think he is recovering from some serious sleep deprivation. He got all quiet and clingy. I was going to put him down at 2.75-3 A, but saw what was happening and again RUSHED him to the crib and voila, one PD and hand on bum and he was out. I THINK I may have been holding him too long before. I always thought his yawn was the beginning of his window, now I think it's the END :shock: And he may have been going through the cycle of sleep in my arms, even though he didn't look like he was.
okay, gotta go shower. Off to Ikea and maybe Costco if time. gotta get sorted for this party on saturday. *sigh*
And by the way girls, moderator is a voluntary position, but thanks for the "congrats". I suppose they wouldn't allow any old hack to join :wink:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 15, 2005, 17:42:34 pm
Cathy... {{{{Hugs}}}} to you. How scary to hear that. I am so glad your DH is okay.
Richelle... UGH! Hate traffic myself. I hate it even more on vacation. Can't wait until we can "apparate" as in Harry Potter. (Just finished re-reading books 4-6).
Judy... kicked a hole in the wall, huh? Good for you, I bet you felt better! :lol: DH broke his hand punching the wall when I was PG and all hormonal. I was having a meltdown over him not getting me a Valentine's Day card. He turned around and punched our plaster walls. The wall won.
Traci... actually, instead of re-introducing the catnap as I feel she doesn't need it, I am trying to move each of the naps back about 30 m. Ideally, I want her to sleep at 9:30, not 9 and at 1:30, not 1. Then I get about another 30 minutes out of her at the end of the day. I don't know if it works this way. I know that once, she woke at 3:15 and was still squirming to get to bedtime routine at 5:30 so???? I'll give it a try... it is hard to move the AM nap though because she gets up so friggin' early and she can only make it until 9 am.
Our night was fine until 10:25 pm! Woken up by the stupid chirping "I would like to have them for supper" birds at 7:14 pm. DH put her back down. Then, no wakings until 10:25 pm. I fed her and then proceeded to try to put her back down. :roll: We put her back down 5 times... now 12:10 am... sheesh. Each time we managed to get her asleep, she would wake again. Anyhow, I was so tired at the 3:40 waking that I fed her AND fell asleep. Poop! I was doing so well... anyhow, she woke at 6:15 am and DH took her.
Here is the rant/rave part about DH this morning. :D Got her up, changed her. :evil: Forgot she needed to be breastfed at 7 am. :D Did all the dishes. :evil: Didn't offer her any solids (nor did he prepare any). :D Let me sleep until 7:40! :evil: Threw off her entire day because of no BF at 7... which leads to sleepy BFing at 7:40 am and refusal of solids at 8 am. I love my DH dearly and he is really a wonderful father BUT... how long have I been feeding her at 7 am?
He did make me laugh before dashing off to work though, when I asked him what he remembers of her schedule. He said, "When she wakes up in the morning, I take her and change her. Then she follows me around in the walker until I get ready for work. Then I give her to you. At 9, she naps. Then she gets up and does whatever. At 1, she naps. Then she does whatever until her bath at 5:30." He gestures with his hands and grins like mad while saying "does whatever". :lol: At least he knew the nap times? :roll:
Waiting for the mail!!!
See you all tomorrow... hopefully I will be able to drop in to the chat. We have a Christmas party to go to every night this weekend, Fri. Sat. Sun.. I am not looking forward to my knackered daughter each of those nights but it couldn't possibly be worse than it is now, could it???? Did I just jinx myself? :roll:
Post by: solnme on December 15, 2005, 18:08:42 pm
Kate - Great advice. It is wonderful to get another perspective on the situation. I wouldn't of considered addressing it pre trip. so much better than gettin rialed up in anticipation. Got your card yesterday too. I'm loving the pics!
Nikki/Judy - thanks for the forum links. I've read some of your posts on Unconditional Parenting and there are some interesting stuff that I want to check out. My next class in my ECE program is on Guideance and Discipline. Looks like I'll be on this site until Sols in school. Do you think they'll come up with a Teenage Whisperer? :wink: And LOL about Santas wave!
Judy - you are truely an inspiration. 4 kids and you put a little whole in the wall. I put my foot through and shattered our mirrored closet doors when I was pregnant! I was loosing it pre-child! (Was secretly so glad to get rid of those doors) What humility!
Ankie - I've been sneaking the cuddles a lot lately too.
Richelle - I was wondering where you were. Sorry the trip was a mess but you almost made me pee laughing with your description. I could feel your frustration through the screen. feck*poo**!@!@*wee*other bum!@!@**mess*bitsman bits!@!@breastsbabywhisperer!@!@babywhisperer.com
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OMG Cathy - Hope everyone is ok and maybe DH can cash out a little. Sorry, is that in poor taste? But really, sometimes you just need to get paid.
Another screaming fit for nap AND bedtime yesterday. Sol also isn't feeling his bath at night every since our trip to Seattle. Last night we sat on the edge of the tub getting reacquainted with his bath buddies and talking up to the "big" event. He still screamed and reached to be picked up throughout the whole thing. Any ideas??
I'm thinking it might be the change in routine. Took him a few nights to resettle after the trip and he's napped at my Mom's place several times this week.
Ok, I really got to start moving.
Chao!
Post by: Richelle on December 15, 2005, 18:50:37 pm
My cards are done and I hope to have them mailed out tomorrow - I daresay most will likely be late, ooops a daisies!
Where in the deuce has Jody been?
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 19:44:30 pm
Cathy glad dh is ok!! Scary eh? Oh and as for getting pregnant after going back to work - well get this.... I went on a year's leave with Zoe then went back to work already 4months pregnant with Sarah, then took another year off and was just over a month pregnant with Kaia and Hannah when I went back :oops: Then was only at work for 5months and went off on sick leave with a dr's note - got full sick pay until the day they were born when my year started!!!! AND I get 6months salary top up to 85% of my pay. :) And they still want me back???? GO figure. I think they feel pretty confident I won't be pregnant next time - IF I go back. :)
Post by: james030405 on December 15, 2005, 20:08:50 pm
sorry about my little rant about DH last night. I am sure it is hormonal. I think I will stop taking the pill. I honestly believe that is making my libido waver :roll: .
Judy: I want to come and work where you do. What great bosses you must have :D
Ankie: I also have lots of cuddles. I am lucky James is a very cuddily boy. I have been told boys are very cuddily which I love. If I lie on the floor with him, he comes over and lays on top of me and smooches his face into mind and rolls all over my body. :lol: I know what you mean about DH's and knowing the routine. I askd DH to put some of James' clothes away, and they all went into the same drawer. :lol:
Richelle: sorry your trip was so awful. I haven't been game enough to do any sort of travel except for about a 2hr car drive. You derserve a medal.
Cathy: I am glad your DH is okay. A bit creepy about the prayer thing though :?
Traci: Congrats on the super mod position. A super mod for a super mum :D
I am sure I have missed someone - sorry. I don't know if this will help you traci/ankie, but I have James on set (well almost) nap times. If he wakes before 6am and make his #1nap at 9am and his 2nd nap at 2pm. If he wakes after 6:30am (which I have had for the lst 2 days :lol: ), I make it around 9:30/10 and 2:30/3pm. I have found that even though you may have a grumpy baby, naps and sleeps have been a lot better. It has taken a couple of weeks, but this week, I have had 3 mornings of not gettig him up till 7am. I have found that if I hold him for about 15mins before putting him down and I wait until I see him rubbing his face lots, that is when I know to put him down. I found if I put him down at a yawn, it was too early and he needed assistance. I have just done it gradually, but maybe it would be worth a go.
On a rave for James, he has learnt or discovered that his arms go above his head. He crawls along, sits down and his arms go up as if he is doing the mexican wave :lol: . He also crawls extending his arms up and out. :lol: :)P:
sorry for the long post - 6am here and just waiting to hear the call.
Have a lovely day/night everyone
Love Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 20:25:11 pm
My dh does the same with children's clothes. In fact Sarah daily dumps all the clothes out of her dresser on to the floor - seems the ideal item is always at the back? Anyway last night dh picked them all up - one big sweep and stuffed them in a drawer.. To be honest I'm surprised he didn't just pile them on top of the dresser. :)
Post by: james030405 on December 15, 2005, 20:34:38 pm
Love Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 15, 2005, 20:40:10 pm
Richelle, sorry to hear about the trip. Hope your house is sorted soon. I know I always start with the kitchen as that seems to be the biggest hardest room to tackle.
Lisa, rant away, that's what we're here for.
Judy, ditto to Lisa's comment. Also you must excel at work as well as you do at home. Good on you!
As for Sol and his fear of the bath, is he in a big bath? Could you get out his old baby bath (if you used one) just to sit him in it. Or even take him into the bathroom with an empty bath and some toys to play in. It sounds like you're going about things slowly which is good. Hang in there.
Micky, I love the Santa photo, a beautiful setting.
Better go and get ready for the day. Whatever it might bring.
Post by: Richelle on December 15, 2005, 20:42:15 pm
RAGING D(ICK)H(EAD) RANT: I am trying to get everything unpacked and put away - I should take a picture of Sophie's new 'room' and post it but as I unpack I have sorted and started 9 - yes you heard correctly - 9 *&%$ing loads of laundry. Not only has DH not done laundry in 2 weeks but also decided to use a new towel everyday. So, here I sit having a beer :shock: 8) ! What the %^% # right - it can't get any worse so I thouhgt I would bust out my dancing Frosty and have a Christmas clinky before I lost my mind!!!!!! Just noticed I have started cyber cussing alot :oops: !
Post by: Judy on December 15, 2005, 21:09:23 pm
Quote from: Sophiesma
Just noticed I have started cyber cussing alot :oops: !
:) :) :) We understand :) :) And we don't mind. I'd be blowin a gasket myself if I were in your shoes.
Post by: Colesmom on December 15, 2005, 21:33:53 pm
Lisa-thanks for advice-re: clock. I don't think Cole is ready for that quite yet. I tried doing that and that's what got me in this overtired baby predicament :roll: Glad to hear you've cracked the early wakings.
Okay-I just got him down for catnap. Had to hold him after dose of Camomilla-THANK YOU JUDY-worked a charm. We just got back from the store-horrible drive in the storm. what was I thinking :roll: then i left the camomilla in the car because i was in a rush to get cole in for nap...then he wouldn't settle, so back out to car :roll: he's been down 15 minutes and should be up now...but i'm going to give him 10 more min.
we went to santa today, but he wasn't his usual self. maybe i should have given the camomilla before santa :oops: oh well, will post pics soon.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 15, 2005, 21:37:02 pm
Lisa, that's great news. But yeah, what's with getting up early. You crazy lady!!!! It's great having hot coffee though isn't it.
I have the BEST new toy for you all to go out and get for your LO's. It's a must for every stocking. It does involve you eating a McDonalds Icecream sunday. Have to do take away so you get the lid. Then, wash the container, put some coloured lentils in it and seal the lid on. (Currently mines sealed with selotape but I'll use duct tape or similar I think, a bit safer).
Not sure how long it's going to last cos he likes chewing on the lid, but it's working so far.
Daniel is crawling everywhere now. He's still a little unsteady, so I must get that on video before he's a smooth crawler. It's so cute. Sleeping thru at night now too. He's only waking if he ends up at the end of his cot, and even then I don't think he's really awake. Just calls out "mamamama" and I go in move him back and he's straight back to sleep. So he's now going 7pm - 6am ish. Phew, it's taken 8 months, but we've got there!
Better go, time to print out some photos.
Post by: james030405 on December 15, 2005, 23:54:03 pm
Hayley, James does the same thing re: waking in the night, but he doesn't say mamma, he just cries out. Maybe I should try and teach him to say daddy.
As most of you are covered in snow and awful weather, I thought I would post a picture of James having fun playing with the hose on one of our hot days.
Have a lovely day/night
Love Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
Post by: mickymuscles on December 16, 2005, 00:00:00 am
Traci: I just wanted to let you know that Jack does the weird head bob thing too. He started that when he started listening to his knee....hmmm. :D It kindof looks like he's on the verge of falling asleep in a very boring lecture (but his eyes aren't droopy).
Richelle: I'd need more then a beer. I'd pack myself up and go off to a hotel for a real vacation and tell DH that when you get back from your vacation you hope he has the house in order! :) :wink:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 00:17:34 am
Well Danielle didn't sleep through last night, but woke about 3 grumbling because she was on her tummy, tried to resettle for 5mins, ended up feeding. Grrr, hate getting my hopes up with one night sleep through...
Judy, another quick question for you. How do you let your parents know that your discipline style is actually your style and not you just being slack and not pulling the girls up on things? I have noticed my parents are thinking I have no control (and I don't :P ) yet I'm actually deliberately not pulling Nathan up on stuff (at their house or mine) - I'm not talking disrespectful stuff, more like taking a tissue or two unncessarily out of the box. How have you explained what you now do opposed to L&L (we used to do that and my parents read the book and signed on...). I'm not concerned about other friends or mums wondering why I parent the way I do, but I guess with my parents (well step dad) it's like they feel the need to help out. :twisted:
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 16, 2005, 00:18:13 am
So, is anyone else sick and tired of putting baby in the car seat, buckling everyhting up, unbuckling, taking baby out etc etc etc!!! I miss the infant carrier :cry: Especially in the cold and snow!! I especially don't like trying to get him buckled in when the backseat of my car is so small. I drive a focus wagon so you would think that there would be more room. DH keeps threatening to buy me a minivan if I don't stop complaining. I find the car seats are so big that the front seats can't be put all the way back and the back of them has to stay pretty upright. Dh is 6ft3in and I am 5ft 10 so we need the leg room. With our big dog a minvan would probably be a good idea but I just got my wagon the way that I want it! I told DH that if I had to drive a wagon (this was pre Carter) that it had to be cool so we had it lowered, tinted, exhaust redone, and we put big rims and low profile tires on it (not so good in the snow :roll: ). I don't think I could do that to a minivan :lol: :shock: Anyway, what kind of cars do you ladies drive, does your carseat fit in it well, would you recommend it? DH's Toyota Camry has 498 000 km on it so we will soon need a new one!
Well, someone is very very fussy so off to bath, bf, bed!!!
Have a good night!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 16, 2005, 00:28:08 am
cathy---glad to hear DH is home safe!! I drive a toyota tacoma 4 door (quad cab) I like it but it wouldn't be great for tall people like you and your DH. I'm just waiting until the LO's can face forward then the carseat will fit better. Right now I don't think there are very many cars that the carseat does fit well when it faces backward. Except the minivan..but no offense to anyone ....I'm trying to pretend that I'm still young... :roll: :wink:
Monster is awake. :D
talk to you all again soon!
Post by: kq on December 16, 2005, 00:28:44 am
Richelle, WTF? Seriously, you girls need to learn how to do the laundry "wrong" from me. I have not done the laundry since I got married (6 years!!!!)
Another dh rave, he was on Sam watch yesterday while I worked. He did the laundry, went out and bought a safety gate, put it up and because Sam's nap got screwed up by him sleeping in the car on the way home for 10 minutes, he managed to get Sam to sleep mid afternoon meaning that we had quite good night. He goes with the flow so much better than I do.
Hayley, it will be such a struggle eating a McDonald's sundae to make that toy :wink: I hope Sam likes it, it would be a great excuse!
Love the pic Lisa, James seems to be having a ball!! :D
Judy, you go girl! We have a punching bag...no it is not Des or Sam which I occasionally have to go and bash. Keeps me sane. A girlfriend of mine helps recycle by breaking bottles into the recycling bin. A bit dangerous though all that flying glass!
Kate, got your card and loved the pic of your gorgeous boy!
Don't you all love it that your babies can now voluntarily cuddle you? So precious!!! Sam will cuddle me but not his dad...prefers him for rough and tumble.
Off to Christmas coffee group. Have a good one..
Oh Cathy, how very scary! Very pleased that your dh is fine.
Ankie, I too use too many exclamation marks!!!!! :wink: :D :D
Post by: Colesmom on December 16, 2005, 00:30:07 am
Micky-thanks for the reassurance on the head bob. it was freaking me out a bit and truthfully made me angry when he banged my head and it hurt me, not him!
Cathy-we drive a Honda CRV (BIL works for Honda) and our Britax Marathon takes up WAY too much space facing backwards. Our front seat is up all the way. DH can fit but barely. I fit okay. Usually if both are in the car though one rides with Cole to keep him company :wink:
Can't wait to have it forward facing.
okay, gotta run, DH just got home and no dinner started and he has to shovel this mess!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 01:00:01 am
Karen, I also love the cuddles that Danielle does now, it's so cute when she throws herself in and burrows down for a snuggle and then plays peek a boo if anyone else is looking at her.
Post by: Colesmom on December 16, 2005, 01:18:02 am
truthfully-i'd be perfectly okay without the party....shhhhhhhhhhh.
got ankie and rozs cards! soooo nice and love the pics:)
okay, I don't want to jinx myself but I just had to come on to post:
Cole did not wake up at the 45 minute mark!!! It's 3 minutes to the hour mark he's been down. Evwebody be vewy vewy quiet............
Post by: Judy on December 16, 2005, 01:50:59 am
Nikki - *big sigh* so funny that you ask me this. My mom and I chat a lot and she'll make suggestions or go away and then call back with suggestions (she was here a couple mornings a week since I've been off work, until recently). I'm a fairly strong personality when I want to be and with certain people, like my folks. So when she'd say "you've got to find a way to get them under control now..." because Zoe and Sarah were tossing clothes out of their room rather than going down for a nap I commented back "I don't see how spanking them is going to do any more than teach them it's ok to hit if one feels the time is warranting it" so the debate began. I ended it with "well we don't spank in this house". So the seed was there.... She'd maybe make a few comments but I'd quickly shut it down or give my opinion that wasn't exactly given in an open-ended waiting for comment kinda way. It's a tough one to discuss because how can you tell your parent that you think controlling your children is detrimental to the relationship without the conclusion coming that you think YOUR relationship with your parents is lacking? And who wants to go THERE? Not me.
So cue up to dh going to Italy the other week. Well my mom came for 2.5days and well - I think she came thinking she would influence me and get the kids 'in shape' and it didn't turn out that way. A few days later I got a 4pg email detailing where I was lax and going wrong! :shock: I was p!ssed for days. For example, the girls were playing rather roughly with their train set one day. I was there and didn't care. My mom piped up and told them to stop or they'd break it. I stepped in and said it might break and it might not and if it did we'd have to wait till daddy came home to fix it, ultimately it was their choice. She was very mad at me for 'overriding' her. I told her it was MY house, they were MY children and I paid for the train set. SO if I felt they could play with it any way they wanted to -then they could play with it any way they wanted to. And suggested she enjoy being a grandma and let me worry about how we discipline. She felt we were being too lax and that children need to have limits and understand the impact of their actions. I agree - but I don't think controlling how they play with their things or giving timeouts is the only way to accomplish this. Anyway -it wasn't so nice. But she apologized for overstepping her bounds and agreed she was out of line. We agreed, that for now, she not be put in a position to have to take care of the children (babysit). Things are fine now - but it's been out there...
She's busy working fulltime now till the end of Jan when my father retires so it will be a good break that way and by then MIL will be available and working less. MIL is very much 'unconditional' and is just soooo easy going. It's very refreshing for me to be around actually.
But obviously you don't want to have to get to that point Nikki. Do you have conversations about this type of thing? Could you just bring up that you and dh have had a change of heart on the L&L and why and what you are trying now and why it feels so 'right' to you?
Post by: Judy on December 16, 2005, 01:56:58 am
I love the cuddles too!!! For a while there Kaia would grab my face for a big kiss then slowly bite me!! She's stopped the biting part for now thankfully. :)
Nikki about Danielle's playing the victim - I was thinking tonight how great it was that she knows you are there to help/support/rescue her. I get where you are coming from but what a great statement to you as a mom that she knows you'll 'protect' her!! :)
Off to watch the finale of Apprentice. (of course the girls fell asleep on the floor today so they AREN'T in bed yet!!! grrrrrrrrr - I'm watching anyway and NO ONE talk to me except during commercial!! ;) )
Post by: Colesmom on December 16, 2005, 02:01:45 am
And cole did wake-three minutes after I posted :oops:
I counted to 100, rather fast as I knew he needed me. 1 PD, a hand on the hip and i took it away before he even finished his mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmg. he then rolled over and slept-without reaching for my hand! progress.
speaking of mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmg, where is bec?
Post by: Jayri on December 16, 2005, 02:22:58 am
BUT....... I did get my BW cards all mailed today, they do not have pics, but I will scan the ones I picked up and put them on here for you all to download if you wish.
How is everyone doing for christmas, are you all perpared or are you still winging it like I am.....I got Ri a disney princess blankie, I will be getting them personalised stockings, still stuck on Ri's pressie's, but Jay is getting thomas the tank engine and bob the builder lego sets.
I have questions,
How is everyone doing at night, I know you all chat about this, but man I am a little too tired lately to read properly, mainly cuz I spend 7.5hrs a day at a computer.
Would you girls be able to give me a quick update on everyone, I guess I am just having a bummed day and realizing just how much I miss you all/
Well girls, I gotta run, 6:30am comes real early in my home nowadays.
If I don't chat before I will see you all in the chat tomorrow.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 02:52:48 am
Quote from: Judy
It's a tough one to discuss because how can you tell your parent that you think controlling your children is detrimental to the relationship without the conclusion coming that you think YOUR relationship with your parents is lacking? And who wants to go THERE? Not me.
Yes, exactly, and we have had a few run ins and I know I've got to be careful because, it's almost telling her that her way of raising us wasn't ideal. In fact I defended SD's son's children after they'd been to visit and left when SD & my mum were complaining about them being awful when they came to stay and I explained that the 2yr old was actually just being a 2yr old and didn't need taking outside and hosing down!! *sheesh* I have had to ask my step dad to tone it down when he uses his "scary controlling voice" with Nathan over stuff, the other day it was over Nathan leaving his crackers on the floor and their dog ate it. Instead of using it as a learning moment he launched into a "I told you so...." situation. At least they're not smackers, but the emotional stuff is pretty yuck, something I struggled with all my teenage years.
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Do you have conversations about this type of thing? Could you just bring up that you and dh have had a change of heart on the L&L and why and what you are trying now and why it feels so 'right' to you?
I think I will bring it up with my mum to start and then in an appropriate time and place bring it up with SD. They watch all the Supernanny type programmes, so I'm going against mainstream which does make it a bit more of a challenge.
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Nikki about Danielle's playing the victim - I was thinking tonight how great it was that she knows you are there to help/support/rescue her. I get where you are coming from but what a great statement to you as a mom that she knows you'll 'protect' her!!
You're right, I guess I want to make sure Nathan's not painted as the bully too - something to work on where I find a balance for both. :)
Post by: Erin M on December 16, 2005, 03:22:12 am
Christmas cards are going in the mail today!
After I posted about our unexpected trip to the train station last night and Katie sleeping through anyway, I put her down for her first nap, fully expecting 45 minutes and got 2.5 hours! Holy cow! Apparently, the way to get your LOs to sleep is to get them out of bed at 11 PM, drive them around for 45 minutes, and put them back in bed. Who knew?
Lisa - I loved the pic - it's so nice to be reminded that it really is warm somewhere in the world right now!
Naomi - we're ok with sleep - Katie's been up about once a night, but she's been sick forever now and teething of course. Naps haven't been very good lately. We're in need of more A time, but having trouble getting there.
Hope to join everyone tomorrow!
Post by: solnme on December 16, 2005, 03:24:57 am
So DH has put Sol in his baby tub (which he still uses) without water and fully clothed. They are talking about the advantages of baths over showers! :D It's so cute. A little crying and reaching out at first but they seem to be having a good time. Lets hope we get the same result tomorrow when we attempt the real deal.
Hi Naomi! - I'd fill you in but I've had serious mommy brain this last week and often forget why I'm standing in a room. Holiday overload.
Cathy - I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I've always had little cars (original Mini, Hondo Civic etc.) but love my SUV. Sorry if anyone is enviro sensitive. The convertible carseat fits pretty good but reverted back to the infant seat after weighing Sol at the drop in every week. He's been stuck on 19 lbs and 26 inch for weeks now. I'm literally dreading the switch.
Happy sleep throughs ladies!! I feel like it's going to be a good night for everyone. vibe vibe vibe
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 16, 2005, 03:32:58 am
Just wanted to say we are back from our pre-Christmas visit to the inlaws in Victoria. We had an amazing time, lots of laughs and tons of love and cuddles for Molly.
I won't even attempt to try to catch up on this thread just want to give hugs to everyone and say congrats to anyone getting good sleeps and hang in there to those who aren't!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 16, 2005, 03:58:38 am
roz-a thought on how to maybe make sol like his bath again. Why don't you try climbing in with him (the big bath :wink: ) to have a bath with him then maybe he'll like it again?
Michelle-welcome back! I got your x-mas card. Cute pics!!
Ankie I got your card today-very cute pic with santa.
Jack's been cuddly lately too. I love when I leave the room and he calls for me...sometimes I come back to the room and lie my head on his lap (without my glasses!! :roll: :shock: ) and he just bites my nose, lip, cheek, chin, etc, etc, over and over. I end up with drool all over me but it makes me smile! :)
Speaking of birth certificates...any of you canadian gals know if I need the bigger certificate with our (parents) names on it to cross the border with Jackson or is the little one ok??
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 16, 2005, 04:30:16 am
So, instead of enjoying my first glass of wine right now, I'm talking to my friends instead, with a reheated coffee and a Crunchie bar! Actually come to think of it, friends, coffee and chocolate is a pretty good alternative! :D Oh and listening to my Christmas CD for about the 10th time, while Daniel is playing at my feet. Mmmm I guess life is pretty good, can't get much better! What a great feeling.
Roz, after suggesting before you try the baby bath, I"m with Micky, how about trying the big bath. Maybe Sol needs a bit more space.
As for car seats, we were lucky cos we bought our car knowing we'd be having babies. And DH loves biggish cars, so we've got a Ford Falcoln XR6. Personally I think it's ugly, it's a 1996 and I prefer the slightly newer models, but at the time couldn't afford it. And now on one income I guess we won't ever afford it!!! So lots of space. We've also switched the carseat around as Daniel is between 9-10kgs now and the Dr said he was big and strong enough to go forward. It's heaps better, much easier to get him in and out and Daniel loves being able to see us. Talks lots more while sitting there which is nice.
Well no more updates from me. Happy sleeping everyone.
Oh yeah, I did want to tell you all I'm very proud of the fact that we've now given Daniel roast chicken, spag bolonaise and apricot chicken. This is coming from me who was too scared to introduce him to foods as I kind of had a 'thing' about giving him foods. Can't explain, but anyway, he seems to be enjoying food mostly now so long as I time it right. Still struggle with breakfast, but lunch and dinner is good.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 16, 2005, 04:38:35 am
First off...
ANKIE--don't feel guilty for spending time and cuddling with Arwyn. I love Liv's cuddles, too. Tonight I did bedtime by myself as DH caught a catnap b/c he had to go BACK to work tonight after working all day. When he woke up, he said, "I'm so glad you're smiling." And I just said, "Who wouldn't smile when you get to hang out with her (Liv) all day and all evening." (I don't ALWAYS feel that way, mind you, but it had been a good day, and she was exceptionally cuddly.)
RICHELLE--sorry to hear your trip (and arrival) home was lacking...MEN!!! They're helpless without us!
CATHY--glad DH is home safe & sound. Your prayers must work! I also hate putting in/taking out of the car seat. And it's worse with winter coats on! I drive a Honda Passport and DH drives a Dodge Dakota (4-door quad cab). The Passport is nice, there's plenty of room for the carseat...even rear facing. But the Dakota sits so high up, it's hard to hoist her 24 pounds up into it!!!
TRACI & MICKY--Liv has also started head banging, although hers is more of a drastic nod. She does it whenever you talk to her. So, she seems really intelligent. The other day we were at the mall and the sales lady asked her, "Are you shopping with Mommy? Do you like to shop?" And Liv just nodded her head enthusiastically. The sales lady looked at me and I just smiled as if to say, "Yes, she's a genius."
Welcome back MICHELLE!!
Well, had my non-BW friend over for lunch today. It was nice to have the company (didn't make moms group this week, so I'm feeling a little shut-in). You will all be so proud of me, too. I refrained from mentioning BW, even when she said he still eats every 2-3 hours (!!!!) and kept making comments like, "I just wish he'd get on a schedule" and "We don't really have a feeding schedule, so I don't know if he's getting as much as he's supposed to." I just bit my tongue, smiled, and tried to change the subject. Whew! It was exhausting!!
DH will be at work for awhile still, Liv is asleep, all my Christmas presents are wrapped and my goodie bags ready for delivery, so I think I'm going to bed, girls!!
Sending out good sleep vibes to all the LOs!!!!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 16, 2005, 05:46:15 am
A quickie tonight because I am on Super Mod duty today and need to help out in the nap forum and DH says my BW site time limit is almost up! :oops:
So Nikki and Judy-love reading your views on parenting styles....BTW what is L&L???
Cathy-I too miss the infant carrier sooo much!
Richelle-how's that laundry coming? :lol: what a head dh is!
glad to hear the 100 thing is working for some of you. And traci, I use it strictly in the middle of the night for night wakings. It helps me to sit there with my eyes closed and count rather than looking at the clock. Gotta get any extra rest you can right? :wink:
So cards are all in the mail today!!! Yippee! Hope they all get there in time. Was surprosed to find that it only costs $.60 to mail to Canada and $.80 to mail to Aus and NZ! In the new year stamps will go up to $.40 to mail across the street! geesh!
Oh ya Halley, you always come up with the coolest toys! thanks for the tips!
Taylor is getting really cuddly not too and reaching for me! It just breaks my heart but in a good way! makes it all sooooooo worthwhile!
later chicas!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 06:32:18 am
So yep, I take bits and pieces of all sorts of methods and find what works for me.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 16, 2005, 08:08:37 am
Post by: BiancaB on December 16, 2005, 09:30:08 am
Well I have attempted to do some catch up reading but 30 pages + after only a few days away is far too much for me...especially with my horrible slow connection!
But had to share...SIENNA up on her knees and crawled today!!! WOW it was like she just bypassed the practicing stage and already knew how :D
So cute she looks with her little bottom up in the air as high as she can get it too.
Nikki-re The "victim"--Sienna has the most heartbreaking sob when she gets going and after once or twice turning on the waterworks at Kyan swiping her toy, he has now taking to doing a swap---ie He replaces what he has taking with another toy...SMART KID I reckon :wink:
He has never been fond of loud noises!
Take care everyone and happy holidays :D
Post by: Colesmom on December 16, 2005, 13:49:15 pm
so, last night not too bad. woke once before 10:15 feed. Tried to offer second boob here and he gagged so I'm hoping this feed is on the way out. Then woke at 12:30 (seems to be habit), then he was kind of up from 1:30-2:45...would settle with my hand on his hip but when i was gone he'd start up in a couple of minutes soooooooooooooo at 2:45 I got my game face on. I did PD for 15 minutes and I DID NOT TOUCH HIM. Not until he was almost asleep I put my hand ever so softly on his bum to help with the jolt (he jolted once and started up again). Didn't hear from my little smuggies until 5:40! Still working on this time, as I think he should go to 6:15 (down at 7:15 last night). soooo progress girls!
Bianca-Congrats on the crawling! And have I ever mentioned Si has the most ruby red lips ever :P
Welcome back Michelle.
alright girls, you won't see me as much because we moved the pc upstairs. no more checking in while cole is hanging in the LR :cry:
and i've been given my moderator sched too so that will keep me busy.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 16, 2005, 16:25:10 pm
Carter went to bed 15min early last night and made up for it by getting up 45 mins early ... didn't like that very much!!! The snow finally quit falling last night. I ended up shovelling yesterday while Carter had his second nap. It took me about 45 mins and I only had 1/3 of the driveway done (our driveway is very long, enough for 5 cars). Right after I came in, all soaken wet from the heavy wet snow, the neighbour fired up his snowblower and finished the driveway for me!!! I felt kinda bad though because all of our neighbours are elderly Italians and they are soooo helpful and nice!!! My dog Boss decided to help me shovel which basically means chasing the shovel and jumping in the snow piles I made!!! Oh well, he had fun and he hasn't really gotten that much attention lately!!
Does anyone have pics of tehir lo's with their pets? I think they would be cute to see. I know I have some ... somewhere! I will have to dig them out!!
Micky: I always cross the border with just the little birth certificate. When I didn't have it yet I usually just used the health card or the live birth registration letter that I had. They didn't usually give me problems except that my passport was in my maiden name so they were always like "Who's child is this?" Only on the U.S side did I have problems, the Canadian side didn't even ask??!!!!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 16, 2005, 16:51:50 pm
hayley: I'm a true geek and went back to try and find most of the DH names. Some girls have never mentioned their names tho. But whoever has mentioned it got it on their card! :wink:
My neighbor across the street has a 12 week old and I asked her how her nights were going. Well, needless to say she said she was going to go to the book store because she heard of a book that helps the lo's sleep thru the night. I had to let her in on the 'secret'. so i'll be interested to see if she gets the BW book. I couldn't keep my mouth shut. But i figure if she was going to get some info on sleeping I could add my two cents in, right? :roll: :oops: :wink:
Today, I had to wake Jack at 8!!!!! :shock: Can you believe that??!!!! He is usually a 6:40-7am kindof guy. Even the cats attacked each other at 645am and he didn't wakeup with all the raucus going on! So I went in a snapped a quick pic of him.....too cute! he's sucking on one of the 'petals' around the bears head. DH nicknamed his lovey "chewie". Very fitting. (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0674.jpg)
Post by: Judy on December 16, 2005, 16:53:46 pm
Quote from: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle
... I want to make sure Nathan's not painted as the bully too - something to work on where I find a balance for both. :)
Why not say to Danielle "oh I'm sure he didn't realize how much fun you were having with that toy". Let's him know you are giving him the benefit of the doubt (I have to MAKE myself do this with Zoe - sometimes I forget she's just 3 :( ) and let's her know he's not the bully.
As for the parents and the scary voice - yeah. I'm worried about my dad doing this over Christmas - especially because of the blowup my mom & I just had. Last year he was very annoyed that Zoe kept turning on/off the light (during the day so it wasn't like it being off was a problem). He didn't say too much just glared at me :roll: but I'm worried this year he may well be cranky with them. He's VERY gruff but has never been with my children. For one I rarely if ever go to their house. They have a hardwood floor and dad is freaked that it might get scratched with a plastic toy :roll: (it's a FLOOR!!) Anyway, dh would NEVER stand for him being harsh with the girls so I know if it happened we'd up and leave and I think my dad knows me well enough to know I'd choose to go too and if they never spoke to me again - I'd find a way to live with it. :( All that said, someone also suggested to me that I watch the girls reaction to it, and if necessary just explain that gran/gramp have different ideas on what children should be allowed to do and sometimes gramp can be gruff in the way he talks. I also tell my girls that they can tell each other, me, dad, anyone "I don't like to be talked to that way" or "I don't deserve that"
ok - dh took over the computer and I started this two hours ago - I've lost my train of thought now ;) off to make lunch. I'll be back later.
Post by: hayes on December 16, 2005, 18:04:12 pm
Lisa-KWYM about sex. Still can't find my libido.
Erin-what a great plan on how to get LO's to sleep through the night. Can't believe it extended to the nap the next day!
Richelle-hope your house is doing better. My Dh would have done the same thing and thought nothing of it. Arggg, someone said it before but I am going to say it again, men would never be able to survive without us.
Traci-lots of head bobbing here too, I was worried about some sort of brain functioning problems but convinced myself he is really into music and rhythm
Cathy-hope your dh isn't too sore, so glad he is okay
Ankie-At 3 months I had a long cry and yell shouting out the schedule so now if my DH is unsure of something he just keeps quiet. I know he is trying his hardest but...
Roz-I 2nd the co bathing trick but be careful not to do it all the time in case LO wants you in there all of the time. We put a cup in the water and that provides lots of fun.
I have an altima don't drive it anymore because it is too small. So dh looks like a clown at the circus when he drives it because he is so big. I drive his truck, chevy silverado. So hard to park but the carseat fits in it so much better. Hopefully when LO #2 comes along I will get a new car.
Off to shower. Will be back later. Again not making the chat, we are going to DH's work party tonight.
macaire
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 16, 2005, 18:58:51 pm
8 More Sleeps to go!
8 More sleeps till Santa
8 more sleeps till the big fat fella comes down the chimney, gives your presents and drinks your beer
8 more sleeps till Santa
That's a little song that the DJ on the radio breakfast show sings each day while the count down is on. Daniel and I dance around the room singing. I love it and I think he does too!!!
Lisa & Macaire - not sure if you're still b/feeding, but things imroved here since stopping feeding. IYKWIM. Now if DH will only come to bed while I'm still awake and got the energy!
Traci - that's great news. Definitely an improvement. There is a light at the end of the tunnel of "no sleep" after all.
Micky - gorgeous photo of Jack. I've been thinking I must get another one of Daniel sleeping. Am I really dumb here? Does he have casts on his hands aswell? I thought it was just his legs. I'm sorry I didn't realise. That must make things really tricky.
Cathy - snow shovelling??? I just couldn't imagine it. I've never even been in the snow while it's been snowing. Only on a mountain a couple of times to ski. As for photos with our cats, see that could be tricky. Our cats would have to stick around long enough for me to get the camera.....
A good night here, even my DH behaved!!! :lol: He was home by 1pm and not as intoxicated as I thought he might have been. Of course, that's not saying there'll be no hang over, I'm sure he'll suffer, but me being the good wife will let him sleep the morning away.
Daniel's been waking early again after doing about 2 weeks of 6.30-7am, it's back to 6am or before. Thismorning it involved a 5 again. But I'm not sure if he went back to sleep or just quiet until 6.20am. I think it's been since I got his summer sleeping bag, so I might put him in the thicker one for night again to see if that helps. He may be getting a bit colder in the mornings still.
And I've tried giving him breakfast again first today. Much better result. Ate 2 cubes apple and 3 tablespoons of cereal (before formula added), it was a big bowlful which I didn't think he'd get thru. He did! And still drank a 200ml bottle just now about 1h 15m later.
Daniel's getting grumpy and needs story time I think. It's only 8am but that's what happens if he wakes early. So better leave this long post here. Phew I hear you all say! :lol: :oops:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 19:32:38 pm
Judy, I know Nathan's figured out that Grampy has a grumpy (:wink: ) voice sometimes. He's not fearful of him, and fortunately it's not all the time. I too wonder about Christmas day since he'll be a bit more stressed with all the extra's in the house.
Snow! Wow can't even imagine living with snow all that snow and all that cold. I'm going to post a picture later on but my camera battery has just gone flat. :roll:
Well Danielle AND Nathan both slept through the night last night again (strange how neither of them usually sleep through and the times that they do they coincide it 8) ). Yay, seems like we might be on the end of wakings - FOR NOW :lol: D's certainly liking tummy sleeping.
Post by: james030405 on December 16, 2005, 19:54:29 pm
Hope everyone has a lovely weekend. I am off to my christmas party today (Saturday) and as we cannot get a baby sitter, DH will look after james. Hes a bit annoyed because it is at a brewery. We also have a family gathering tomorrow which he doesn't want to come to but has to. :lol:
Love to your all Lisa
mum to James
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 21:06:47 pm
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 16, 2005, 21:07:42 pm
Post by: Erin M on December 16, 2005, 21:11:28 pm
Hayley - :D at the song - very funny. We are getting very excited for Christmas around here too.
Nancy - I forgot to mention that I loved your picture!
Micky - Jackson is adorable - I didn't even notice the casts on his hands until Hayley pointed it out.
Nikki - Yay!
Traci - Glad to hear things are headed in the right direction.
Oh and Richelle - give that DH a kick in the butt from all of us.
Hooray it's Friday - DH is on his way home!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 16, 2005, 21:29:44 pm
Nikki: ROTFLMAO!!!! totally funnny!! too bad you didn't get a pic of it...you could have a good laugh when he was older and understood it!! :)
Hayley and Erin : Jack wears splints on his hands at night. Both his hands and feet had tight tendons in them. When he was first born you couldn't open his hands at all. Now they are pretty much normal/average :wink: And his feet needed surgery to correct the tight tendons. His feet touched his shins when he was born but we could never point his toes. So yes.....I have my share of issues with him. Everyone is amazed that we do plan on TTC again in July. I figure it can only get easier!!!! :shock: :roll: :wink:
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 16, 2005, 21:40:29 pm
Erin--thanks.
Micky--Bless you having to figure out a newborn AND having to deal with the issues you've dealt with. Glad you're seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.
Here is our pic of Liv with our dog. He's a Golden Retriever/German Shephard/Chow mix and Olivia LOVES him. He is pretty good with her--would just rather not mess with her most of the time, and would rather have our attention than hers.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/nbackues/100_0899.jpg)
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 16, 2005, 21:42:03 pm
Well, off to nap while Liv is napping.
Post by: Richelle on December 16, 2005, 22:59:57 pm
I'm am still neck deep in you know what (trying to cut down on the potty mouth) but thought i would post a couple pic's namely the one of Sophies new room, :shock: :evil: :shock: ! and a cute pic of Sophie and my mom!
Post by: Judy on December 16, 2005, 23:45:18 pm
I tell my dh everytime we move that NOTHING goes in a room it doesn't belong in!!!!! Although not being there it's kinda hard to say much at all I guess.
She looks happy though :)
Post by: Richelle on December 17, 2005, 00:04:18 am
ALso, it is so interesting to here what you and Nikki have to say re. discipline and parents. What a long story my childhood is,,,ahhh for another day. A RAVE for my mom - when she came to stay with us to help when Sophie was born, I had mentioned in passing prior to her arrival that I was reading BW. When she got here she had a copy with her and had read it front to back and she also had 4 pages of condensed notes, :shock: :lol: gotta love her. I am sure no matter what I decide to do with Sophie I know she respects my OPINION which is really what it sounds like you and Nikki are doing with your LO's, lucky girls! My dad is a different story...... :roll:
Post by: mickymuscles on December 17, 2005, 00:17:09 am
Post by: kate585 on December 17, 2005, 03:40:10 am
And, I am such a jerk, but when non-"us" people join our chat I get annoyed. I know I shouldn't but it's my only time to go have a drink with the girls and it feels like some guy has sat down at our table and busted up happy hour, kwim?
Okay, I hate to bail on you Bec and Micky, but I must. Don't hate me!!!
Post by: Richelle on December 17, 2005, 12:56:06 pm
DH kicked me out of the house I ended up having FUN, woudln;t you know it!! I feel like I had fun today though, KWIM :wink: ! I just ate some baking for breakfast :oops: .
Sophie keeps getting into the Christmas presents, trying to be easy going Judy but figure I will hide them under the ruse of Santa so it doesn;t drive me NUTS!!
OH and guess what else DH did, invited some people over for a
BBQ! :twisted: :twisted: :shock: :roll: :shock: :twisted: I told him to take the afternoon off today and help me with everything, what a knob. They are new on island and I know that can be pretty lonely, especially this time of year, that is the only reason he isn't strung up by his toenails!
Must dash, Miss clingy pants needs me...
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 17, 2005, 13:19:22 pm
Chat was fun girls. When I got to my room DH was completely passed out so the shaved legs weren't put to "good use" as someone put it!!! I went back and read the "Had a Bad Birth Experience" post after everyone said it was so bad and .... you're right (Bec & Erin) it IS crap! I don't know how on earth I missed it but when I skimmed it the first time I totally did not see anything about birth being compared to rape! When I just sat down to read it I almost fell off my chair because I realized I said last night that it was a good article :shock: :shock: . Must read better!!!!
Kate: I was wondering what you were laughing at!! Did those "others" :) stay for a long time?
Traci: Hope your party goes well today. I am waiting to hear what happened with Cole last night! You know you are addicted to BW when you wake up in the morning and think "I wonder if Cole made it through the night?"
Richelle: yummm baking for breakfast!!! Glad you had fun last night, you deserve it after all that travelling!!
Off to make Christmas cookies ... I'm making DH help me! He whips up the best shortbread!!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 17, 2005, 15:41:29 pm
kate: i totally KWYM!! 8) one of them didn't stay long. the other i ended up chatting to for another hour. She's got some major problems with little one waking every hour all night long!!! :shock: Sounds kindof like Arwyn and Brady :wink: . I also led her to her "mom's group". She didn't know how the site worked really. She just started BW 2 weeks ago. So i hope I helped and didn't make her more confused!
Richelle: I've been having baking for breakfast, lunch and dinner for a couple weeks now! :roll: :wink: My MIL is the best baker and she dropped off a huge container of baking at the beginning of the month....not very good to have around when I hate cooking! :shock: I'll never lose my 'purse' around my middle eating like this!!!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 17, 2005, 15:46:22 pm
Anyhow. It was pretty fun. Nice meal, good wine. Kinda boring inspirational speeches about the company. blah blah blah.
So my first full week is over and I am feeling pretty good. It was really satisfying. I started to bond with the kids a little and am looking forward to spending time with them when we return from break. I do have a great group of kids....I have 2 sets of twins btw all girls. Makes me think of Judy and Jody.
One of my teacher friends was telling me the other day that she is going on a cruise and one of their stops is Grand Cayman...so of course I blurt out...."I have a really good friend who lives on Grand cayman...she has a daughter Sophie's age, named Sophie" Thank goodness they didn't probe me for more info :oops: :shock:
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 17, 2005, 15:49:27 pm
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 17, 2005, 16:17:39 pm
I am sooooo excited to become part of this conversation again. Although I am reading everyday I don't usually have time to read and post replys.
I have enjoyed the discipline talk. It helps so much actually, especially in my classroom. Some 4th graders are not much more mature than our 2 and 3 year olds. I have one really challenging child with Asbergers (sp?) who is diagnosed "oppositional defiant" (aren't all kids od? :)) Anyhow, without really knowing what I was doing I do alot of the Love and logic choice giving stuff. It actually works pretty well with these kids. I think it helps them see the consequences of their actions. I do really struggle ALOT though with forcing kids to do anything. I find myself at a loss for reason WHY they should do their homework, or classwork...this can be hard when you are a teacher:) Usually I can pretty easily justify my rules (safety, respect, everyone has a right to a safe environament in school etc, etc) but I have a really hard time justfying whay they should do any one assignment.
I work with lots of "old school" style teachers/people who are very "you'll do it because I said so" in their approach to discipline. It's hard sometimes not to get caught up in this but I just don't find it as effective. I think it causes the realtionship to suffer. I guess I plan to use alot of that philosophy in my approach with Sophie. However...it will be a lot harder at home I am sure as I will have a tough time finding reasons to say yes, no or whatever.
OK, enough about me,
Baking for breakfast? MIL made chocolate chip cookies while here last night...guess what I had with my coffee this morning?
I am going to read that post. I had heard people have really bad experiences with birth especially if they had experienced sexual trauma in the past. I'll have to check it out.
Traci...hope Cole is well and the party goes well.
Naomi. I am so sorry that Ri is having sleep issues??? Hopefully not too bad. DO you think it is related to daycare?
Cute animal + baby pics Lisa and Nancy. Sophie loves MIL's dogs. Thinks theoir tails are toys...thank goodness they are good with her.
Richelle. Sophie's room... :shock: I hope things are starting to come together. I can be a totall wreck when my space is not right. I am sending hugs and good organising/unpacking vibes your way :)
Oh and on the car/car seat thing. I was cursing the world one day this week when AMy asked me to leave her the carseat so that she could take the kids out....so I had to move it from my car to hers. Of course it was the one day I was wearing a skirt!...anyhow, omg I am SO buying another carseat for her and MIL to use. I am NOT reinstalling this one ever again. Argh!!! We have a Subaru Outback also and I do love it. It has the latch system for the car seta, but it can be a real ypain in the patooti to get it in and out. I am feeling the car seat pain too. It will be really nice to turn it forward. It's almost impossible to get her into it through the door...I have to sort of shimmy her in head first than body..or put her in from the other side.
OK...enough from me...can you tell I've missed you?
I am off to shop today with a friend from school. It's daddy day care. I guess I should feel guilty after working all week and now spending another day away???But I am thrilled to have two weeks with my little tiny girlfriend so...one day can't hurt right?
Take care ladies.
BTW...anyone want to chat Sunday night? I missed my chat fix. :)
Hannah
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 17, 2005, 17:23:38 pm
Sorry I missed chat last night-2 weeks in a row! :( Hannah I would be up for chatting but probably not till 10pm EST? Last night my mom and I went shopping with T for a couple of hours, came home and put her to bed and then went out again till 11p! :shock: I'm zonked!
Hannah, BTW, glad your week went well. We are all rooting for you!
ANyhow, Macaire, so funny about your dh looking like a clown! I could imagine it. :lol:
KATE!!! you must interject the mail on probably monday or tuesday!!! A few pages back soemone was mentioning about putting DH on the cards. For many of you I did (thought it would be funny!). But for you Kate I put you, ryan and Sweaty Jude Law!!!! I wrote it at 11pm one night so sounded funny, but then the next day I thought DH might not think so funny! So throw the outer card away when you get it, as it was really just meant to be a protector for the real card which is a photo with a border type of card. PHEW, glad to get that off my chest! :lol:
Nikki and Judy-gosh I have spent so much time concerned with sleep that it dawned on me reading all your posts about discipline that the real fun is just beginning! I must switch gears now and think about how we want to do this with T. Especially now that she is getting so much more mobile and reaching for things KWIM.
Where's Ankie? Naomi, hanging in there?
Richelle-what an amazing mom you have. you should feel so blessed. my mom is great and will follow what I say, but does sometimes put in some digs about her schedule and such.
Micky-poor little Jack I forgot that about the hands as well~I know you had talked about it a while ago. How proud you must be of him that he has learned to self soothe without his fingers/hands. Don't know where we would be without Taylor and her finger addiction! We call her TFT (two finger taylor because she always sucks on her 2 fingers of her right hand!)
Okay, gotta go to the grocery store!
Good day everyone
BTW, I got Roz's card last night-it was beautiful! thank you so much. can't wait for you guys to start getting yours!
Post by: kate585 on December 17, 2005, 17:44:06 pm
Andrea, I know dh will LOVE seeing the envelope. He likes to think someone somewhere in the world thinks he's a hottie. (besides me, of course!) 8)
Hoping all the kiddo's (how DO you spell that one?) had a good night. Ryan slept through again, but we heard a short wail at 5:10, 5:24, 5:47, and 6:10. Then, he slept 'til almost 8. Hooray! But, I was wondering what those wails were all about, so I did some investigating. And then, it happened! WE HAVE A TOOTH!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D Wahoooooooo! I felt it and saw it and dh felt it so I know I am not making it up this time. I will be glad if this is how he handles the teething thing. He was a bit cranky this am, but gave him some Orajel and he seemed much relieved. Down for nap 1 without a peep and without any meds, so I'm glad about that. Couldn't wait to get on here and tell you girls and when I told dh that he said, "Shouldn't you call your mom first?" :oops: Too bad I still told you first, but will call my mom right after this post.
Here's hoping anyone who is shopping today has a boatload of patience! (Mil and Fil took Ryan to the zoo yesterday afternoon so I got about 75% of my shopping done after work. :) I feel about a million times less stressed!) And, have fun at your party/BBQ Traci and Richelle.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 17, 2005, 17:55:42 pm
what do you think is more important? Preserving a good nap or preserving bed time?
The reason I ask is that for a while I have been very protective of T's naps so that we hardly take her out anymore during A times unless it will be an hour or less, eventhough she can stay up for 3-3.5 hours. It seems that if we don't fit in a BF, solids and then plenty of time for her to get some energy released by crawling/rolling around...she just doesn't take a good nap, even if we make it back in time to put her down for her nap. I guess I feel bad having her couped in the carseat and stroller when she would rather be crawling around/discovering.
So what I have been doing is taking her out after 2nd nap and then having to feed her dinner somewhere (usially at a restaurant when we are out running errands) and then moving bedtime back about 15-30 minutes later.
But now this week that isn't working either! For example 3/7 nights this past week we have had to go do christmas shopping so we go out and get home about 7-7:15 and she is in bed no later than 7:45 for goodness sake! it's not that late! Well, all 3 times she has ended up wakign either 1-2 times in the night and needing some settling.
When we don't take her out she doesn't make a peep.
:arrow: So geez guys, I guess my dilemma is the girl has gotta get out sometime and so does mommy!!! So do I say to heck with trying to get a good nap and go in between naps and let her even take a nap in the car if need be to preserve bedtime? But then of course you know what I am afraid of...missing a good nap will mess up her nights too!
Didn't I say in my last post I was going to start switching gears and not worrying so much about her sleep!?!? :? :lol:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 17, 2005, 18:03:59 pm
I have also been very tired. I am nearing the end of my rope with Arwyn and the night sleeps. I just don't know what to do. DH and I have discussed it and we are going to do 2 weeks full on cold turkey. No feeds at night, including DF and pu/pd at night. DH started last night and she was up at 12, 2, 3:45 (I fed her), 5:10, 6:10, 6:30, up for the day at 7:20.
So, that would make it up 7 times between midnight and mroning. 7?? WTF? We got it down to 2 or 3 but freakin' 7 times? :shock: Makes me want to swear.
So... sorry for unloading and not responding to others but I am flippin' tired and almost angry because we have had such a rough 2.5 months. I really don't know when this will stop. How come she slept through the night until 6 months and now won't? I know we have been through colds and teeth and increased mobility but F*CK! Sorry... had to swear. Sometimes at night when she wakes, she has crawled into the top left hand corner of her crib and is banging her head on the headboard, causing her to wake up. All we have to do is reposition her and pat her for 30 seconds and she is asleep again but jeez louise...
I can't imagine going back to work if she continues to do this. I will be a zombie. Kids take advantage of zombie like teachers and don't behave. :roll: I also have to be super organized and I just don't know if I can do it.
Hannah... congrats on making it to break. You deserve the shopping alone time. Enjoy.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 17, 2005, 18:13:19 pm
I have the same dilemma. I am a uber-homebody these days. I only take her out during the A times. I usually have to skip a meal to do it. :roll: So... if we go out between nap #1 and nap #2, she will skip proper solids at lunch and get the "cereal in a biscuit" form cookie or Cheerios.
If we go out between nap #2 and bedtime, I really try to preserve bedtime. I bring all her food and try to stay on routine as much as possible. Last night was an exception... the first in a really long time (since Sept 8th, in fact) and we got home at 9 pm. She fell asleep as soon as we got in the car at 8:20 and slept all the way home and was trying desperately to put herself back to sleep as DH and I changed her into her PJs. Tonight, we are going to an open house and will be rushing home for her 6:00 bedtime.
So... you are not alone in being OCD about the sleeping (and I don't even have a baby who sleeps through the night). If I were you, I would keep track too... nothing like a good night's sleep, for both baby and mommy.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 17, 2005, 18:21:57 pm
Andrea, unfortunately sleep is still a focus for me (and it's not Danielle's I'm really concerned about - she's the lesser of two evils in my mind), but then we have the wee issue of discipline in there too LOL. Nathan was up again last night night screaming about 4 times and then outside Danielle's room at 5.20am which woke her up, so I then spent 45mins rocking and patting her to try and get her back to sleep, finally fed at 6am and then put her back to bed for Nathan to wake her up again 15mins later :twisted: . DH actually got a bit of a talking to as well for managing things the way he did since he does Nathan watch at that time of day....
As far as what to do: how about you go out and do errands earlier in the day after nap 1? That way hopefully she's then got all day to expend energy and get back on track. I try and preserve the 2nd nap at all costs since that's the one that needs to be good to get us through till bedtime.
And welcome back Hannah!
Post by: Jayri on December 17, 2005, 20:38:10 pm
Yesterday Jay brought home his frist pieces of craft things from school, I am going to put one on o\my desk at work.
We got our pics back from sears, so dh's project this weekend is to hook up the printer so I can use the scanner on it to put up the pics for you girls. I was to ansy to wait to get the pic of the kids to put in your cards. I mailed them out on thursday.
As for Janean, AHHHHH!!!!!, I got the keys back from her on thurs, she was a bit shocked that I wanted them back, she is not living here so why have them. Enough of that, she makes me too mad after what she did to talk about her.
OOOHHHHH!!!! Jay woke up from his nap and is sounding cranky.....gotta run girls.
I will try to be back soo tho!!!!
:D :D :D
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 17, 2005, 20:43:21 pm
Cathy, with Carter going down 15mins early/rising earlier thing, why are you putting him down early? Maybe that's why he's rising so much earlier. Can you stretch him out again and see what happens?
Kate, yay for Ryan. Isn't it exciting! I had some friends who said they thought the first tooth was such a let down when it finally arrived. I didn't think so at all. I was very excited and still am! Nerdy mum!!!! :lol:
Ankie, you poor lady. Arwyn should definitely be giving you a break for Christmas. But as Nikki says, keep at it and surely there can only be an improvement.
Andrea, as for naps vs sleep, personally I'd be wanting a good sleep at night myself. Can you go out at the beginning of Taylor's wake time then either let her sleep in the pushchair while you're out or get home in time to expend some energy first. She might be able to stay awake longer if you're out then come home if she's been relaxing while out, so just watch her cues when you get home (within reason). Just a thought.
We went to a farewell bbq for one of the girls in our group last night. Actually it started at 4pm, so I thought Daniel would be fine. Normally he's awake at this time and pretty good/happy. But I think due to the weather (very muggy) and so many people, he was not a happy camper. After the first hour he became grizzly and sucking on his hand constantly. So I think teething was contributing to the problem too, but I didn't have any medication/powder for him. When we took his shirt off thinking he might also have been hot he was covered in a heat rash. So our poor little bear was not happy. We ended up leaving at 6.30pm. Oh well, at least we had dinner and I managed 1 glass of wine :cry: When we got him home it was medicine and straight to bed (after bottle of course). He slept soundly from 7.30pm - 6.10am. He was much better thismorning. No tooth though. :cry:
RANT: DH is still sleeping. :evil: It's 9.30am. Really annoys me, cos he stays up late then sleeps half the morning. Unless he's on morning duties, then he grumpily gets out of bed. The rest of the day he moans cos he's tired. I keep telling him if he kept his bedtime more consistent his body would adapt and he wouldn't have this problem. But will he listen???? No!!! :twisted: He's pretty good in other respects, cooks most meals, helps look after Daniel (when he's awake) even pretty much knows Daniel's routine, but is just slack when it comes to getting out of bed cos it's daytime/morning. Enough of my rant. Don't normally have to do it, but today, I just felt like it. I admit that he offered to look after Daniel tomorrow morning and the following though, so there's a RAVE for him in there after all. :D
Better go.
Post by: Judy on December 18, 2005, 00:52:16 am
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Sophie keeps getting into the Christmas presents, trying to be easy going Judy but figure I will hide them under the ruse of Santa so it doesn;t drive me NUTS!!
Ah see I *try* my best to be easy going but on things that bother me I remove the problem - so there's no presents under our tree they're all hidden away!! :) If they were under the tree they'd have been unwrapped a million times by now and I'd be annoyed and nagging - so instead, they're hidden. ;)
Post by: Erin M on December 18, 2005, 01:16:01 am
Andrea - Katie has never been the greatest napper - rare are the days when I get two good naps out of her, so what I've been doing lately is taking her out after nap #1, feeding her lunch somewhere, doing whatever, and putting her down for nap #2 when we get home. It works -- sometimes. I do try to preserve bedtime, but I haven't found a huge difference if we're off by a little bit. So, generally I choose bedtime over naps. I am beginning to wonder if I need to be a bit more of a stickler about naps/bedtime though in order to improve our nighttime sleep.
Hannah - You sound SO much like me teaching-wise it's scary. I've had so many people mention to me that I definitely don't yell at the kids enough. I work with a teacher who is so "old school" in terms of assignments/classwork and sometimes I do want to ask WHY??
Kate - YAY for the tooth!
Ladies, I had fun at chat (Cathy, sorry the shaved legs were wasted). Sorry to have run when the other folks showed up, but it was getting rather late, and Princess Katie was up again last night.
Traci -waiting to hear how the party went.
Talk to you all soon!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 01:26:25 am
Post by: kate585 on December 18, 2005, 01:34:22 am
Hayley, sorry about Daniel's rough go at the party. I bet it was the heat rash. Don't you hate it when that sort of thing happens and you don't realize it right away? :? Glad he slept so well, though.
Naomi, good to see you girl. Catch up on that sleep; you know we'll be here when you have more time!
Hannah and Erin, I think we would all have similar teaching styles. I don't know why it wasn't obvious, if we all have similar parenting styles, but it still made me smile! :D
No wrapped gifts here either. I was going to start tonight, but leave them upstairs and out of reach. As you can see, I'm not making any progress as of yet. Wonder why? :lol:
Ryan was f Mr. Crankypants off and on today. No surprise with the big tooth and all. (I really am quite excited...or what do you Southern Hemisphere people say...fussed? putzed? Hmmmm). Gave him some Advil about 20 minutes before bed and that helped a lot. Hopefully he'll sleep through again.
:?: Since he didn't eat/nurse that much today, should I feed in the night if he wakes up? Obviously am hesitant to start another bad habit and have to go through that he!! again. He actually ate a decent amoung, just nursed shorter and didn't eat as much as usual, but still a lot, IYKWIM. Hmmm. Think I'll hold off for tonight and see what you smarty-pantses think tomorrow.
Really must go get wrappin'. Love to you all!
Post by: FrasersMum on December 18, 2005, 01:45:41 am
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Ryan was f Mr. Crankypants off and on today. No surprise with the big tooth and all. (I really am quite excited...or what do you Southern Hemisphere people say...fussed? putzed? Hmmmm).
:lol: :lol: We would probably go with "stoked". My little brother would probably say "fully sick". :lol: :lol:
What in the heck is "putzed"?
Post by: kq on December 18, 2005, 02:37:46 am
Well done Micky for helping Mrs H out.
I wonder how Cole's night went and how the party today is going/went.... Oh and got your card and gorgeous pic of Cole, Traci.
Ankie, glad you have a plan. Looking forward to hear your progress and big hugs to you!!
Nikki, you mentioned a book on Love and Logic...who is it by? Geek here would like to start reading over the holidays if possible.
Well done Hannah on your first week!
Andrea, I preserve bedtime over naptimes.
Oh Cathy shame about the shaved legs. :wink:
Naomi, missed you but good to hear from you.
I'm off to rescue my shoes.
Karen
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 02:40:01 am
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Quote (selected)Ryan was f Mr. Crankypants off and on today. No surprise with the big tooth and all. (I really am quite excited...or what do you Southern Hemisphere people say...fussed? putzed? Hmmmm).
:lol: :lol: We would probably go with "stoked". My little brother would probably say "fully sick". :lol: :lol:
What in the heck is "putzed"?
Ditto, I was trying to figure it out too, but I think stoked is the one that comes to mind. :lol: :lol:
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 18, 2005, 02:50:54 am
I'll check for you ladies tomorrow at 10 est.
I hadn't even THOUGHT about the whole presents under the tree thing (maybe becasue we haven't even put ours up yet ?) until today and what do you know? you are all discussing it. I swear...something about all concieving around the same time and giving birth around the same time is causing us to have the same thoughts? (Not surprised btw that we are similar teachers too Kate and Erin)
Anyhow. One of my favorite things about christmas is (or should I say used to be)stacking the pretty wrapped presents around and under the tree...Oh well. Now I see the usefulness of santa :D
Hey where's Bec??????
I am drinking green tea and eating jelly bellys left over from Brendan's bday party. I feel a cold coming on. Somehow this combination of food/drink better be the cure.
I have been such a junk food junkie lately. Sophie definately eats better than we do BY FAR. Dh had waffles for dinner tonight and ice cream for dessert :oops: Yikes! I keep thinking we'd better shape up so that we can be good roll models for our children and soon!
OK gotta run for now. See you tomorrow!
Hannah
Andrea, I would definately choose night sleep over day but the only problem is I don't think you can really because they are so related. I think the suggestion of doing things in the afternoon was a good one (nikki?) I find I can definately stretch Sophie longer at that time without negative consequences. HTH
Traci I am missing you already..
Naomi, good that you got your keys back.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 18, 2005, 02:55:34 am
Lisa...was it you talking about libido a ways back? I am with you hunny. I have none. Zero. Nada. Although I have to admit it wasn't super strong before.
I talk about it a lot with you ladies and with dh. That helps. It is a bit of a sore spot for me. You are not alone.
Hannah
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 18, 2005, 03:04:27 am
Have a question if anyone has any answers...Molly is on her 3rd ear infection since the end of October. We are awaiting an appt with the ear/nose/throat doctor to talk about tubes for her ears. In the meantime, we are on ANOTHER round of antibiotics which is so hard on her little tummy. She has constant diarhea. I give her probiotics twice a day in her bottle, but does anyone have any other suggestion on any type of food to try that will solidify her bowels a little better?? The diarhea is so hard on her tender skin, I hate to see the angry, red rash. :cry:
Richelle - WTF was up with DH?? Sheeeeesh. Hope you kicked him a good one in the arse. :twisted: What cute pics of the little princess though! Your Mom sounds amazing, mine took to BW quite easily as did Aaron's Mom. It may not have been their way but they don't criticize us for our choices.
Hannah - so glad to hear that your first week back at work went well!! I go back January 11th so was watching your posts. Have you got Sophie in daycare?
Can't remember who posted about cars and carseats but I have a 2005 Malibu Maxx and it is wonderful, even for the rear facing full carseat! There is tons of room and there are sun visors over the back windows on the roof. The back seats also move back and forth and recline as well. It is a hatchback so perfect for stroller, baby bag etc... I love it!!
Kate - congrats on little Ryan's tooth!!! Yaaaaaaaaay!! Molly is still toothless. I was 11 months when I got 2 teeth at once and Aaron was 10 months. When the tooth poked through was it still quite pointy?? Thanks for the card and picture too, what a sweetie. Looks like such a happy baby.
Andrea - I guess I'd say I work more on preserving Molly's bedtime as opposed to naps. I have just found with her that if I take her out after her morning nap, I can extend her awake time and put her down for a later nap. She will go straight to sleep, sometimes for a shorter nap, but usually about 1.5 hours. That way we can keep her bedtime consistent.
Ankie - Hugs Hugs for you and Arwyn!! Molly went through about 2 months of that waking every hour so I can relate and totally feel for you and your exhaustion. Hopefully it will pass soon.
I will try to come on to chat tomorrow night, 10 pm EST?? Not sure what time that is here in Alberta, Micky - have you figured that out yet??
Thanks all who have sent cards and/or pics!! I love getting mail. What a "card" I am. :roll:
Post by: kq on December 18, 2005, 03:24:02 am
Nikki, Danielle is sooo pretty in her little dress. Would have loved to see a pic of Nathan with ram LOL :D :D
Post by: kq on December 18, 2005, 03:25:13 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 03:33:09 am
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 18, 2005, 03:38:47 am
Strange concept to think about... :shock:
Post by: kq on December 18, 2005, 03:42:36 am
LOL Michelle, we are at tomorrow IYKWIM. That is a strange concept! It is 4.43 pm on Sunday here.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 03:53:24 am
Post by: Judy on December 18, 2005, 05:02:50 am
I hope the new plan will work - surely something's gotta give soon!!
As for the book Unconditional Parenting... I bought mine online - actually I have two if anyone wants to buy one - stupid really but I was so interested in reading my copy and wanted dh to read it too so since it was so interesting to me I bought a second copy for him - what was I thinking? He can't be bothered to read. So I bought the dvd too - I'm sure it would be great if the DVD player worked :roll: :)
Nikki is correct on the website... although it's recently had a big change. It was really overboard with tcs folks (taking children seriously) - gosh I've purused their boards and man oh man they make my head spin. I read something there tonight about how to celebrate Christmas - since tcs families have everything they want when they want it how do they do Christmas? I mean if you knew your kid wanted something you'd have to ask if they wanted it now or to wait for Christmas... if they wanted to wait, cool, but there's no surprise. Anyway - I like that they challenge my programming (from my own childhood) but they are so far over the other way - which is why they can stretch me beyond where I'm at.. Anyway - that's TCS stuff.... Unconditional Parenting board is back to UP reality I guess is a good way to say it... but it's like this community in that the author of the book is basically not present and it's not moderated at all so it becomes more what the members make of it. KWIM??? Like us - we could discuss things and move away from BW potentially... the group of folks that remain are very nice, very gentle... is a slow moving board, very little action especially now.
Anyway... back to sleep stuff... I'm still obsessed with figuring out the right amount of sleep and when for Zoe and Sarah. They're exhausted during the day and if given the opportunity will sleep for 1.5-2hrs but then bedtime is a battle every night... without naps I'm struggling to keep them awake and then bedtime is 50-50 - might be smooth and early and might be a late battle still???? I got rid of the naps becaus they wouldn't sleep and I was tired of struggling to get them to nap, now I struggle to get them NOT to nap?? I think children enjoy trying to drive us insane! I've got to get across to these kids that there will be very little inheritance if I die too young!! :P
Post by: mickymuscles on December 18, 2005, 06:05:42 am
Andrea: we always do our errands between nap #1 and nap #2. That's just part of our routine. I usually try to be home in time for Jack to nap but if I know for sure that I won't be I stay out until it's time for him to nap and then he sleeps in his carseat. :roll: I know not very BWish but he's getting good at taking good naps in the car the other day he had a hour and 15 min nap in the car! :shock: I just make sure I've always got a good book and a coffee to keep me company while he naps.
Michelle : 10pm EST is 8pm our time. I hope to see you there!
Naomi: glad to see you back. Made me LOL about your DH ripping the radio out of the guys dash!! :shock: I would have been pretty darn fuming by then too!
Ankie: You are doing awesome! Stick to one plan and it will pay off. I totally think going cold turkey is the way to go. By now these little ones should be eating more than enough during the day and should have enough body fat to be able to hold them until am. :shock: Vent and swear all you need!
Judy: I'm totally the same way...swearing like a sailor if I have to get out of bed but once I'm in Jack's room I'm the sweetest loving mother I can possibly muster! :) :wink:
hannah: glad to see you back! I see you on Sunday! I too have become a junkfoodaholic. I hate cooking for one. It is impossible to do. I'm in my "skinny" jeans now but its not because i'm working out or eating well!! The pure sugar diet seems to be working wonders for me! :roll: :shock:
have a good night/day!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 18, 2005, 06:28:29 am
Junk all the way... tonight, DH and I had leftovers (still) from my open house on Sunday and we had... Brie with sundried tomatoes and garlic, pepperoni, c o c k tail wieners, gherkin pickles, smoked salmon on crackers and spinach artichoke spread. Good open house snack-y munchy stuff but the combo has made me not feel so good.
Well, we are on night 2 of no feeding. So far, we have passed the DF and she stirred 2 times and woke once from being stuck in the corner of the crib. We'll see how it goes... she is still stirring from the second one... whining a bit but we are not going in. DH and I suffer from "running in syndrome" due to her sleep crawling. If we get her repositioned before she wakes up very much, she is very easy to get back down. If not, look out! So... DH has just gone to reposition her. :roll:
Will let you all know how it goes. Arwyn doesn't eat very much during the day, BFing or solids so I keep wanting to feed her in the middle of the night but I don't really want to keep it up, KWIM?
I am out tomorrow for my Grandma's 91st birthday, so I can't chat. I really miss you all... I haven't chatted for over 2 weeks and am experiencing withdrawal. :oops: I have another dinner to go to next Friday as well so I won't even see you gals then! :cry:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 06:31:42 am
Karen, you can't buy UP here either, but I have spotted it on http://www.fishpond.co.nz. I'm debating whether to get it myself.
Judy, does the book explain a lot more than what is able to be gathered from online? Do you ever feel resentful that you've been really understanding, going with the flow etc etc and then something makes you snap and you wonder where the positive payback is for you? I think that's what I'm struggling with and need some sort of system for coping with the anger that comes up in me when we've been having a really good day and then he'll start to loose the plot over not napping and being tired and then I do too and revert into military mode. :oops:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 06:33:50 am
Oh, and Andrea, I agree with Hannah that (I'm not sure that it came across clearly in my other reply), that I don't think you can isolate preserving only either naps or bedtime since they do interrelate - especially for some babies (as in overtiredness from bads naps means more likely to have multiple night wakings - as you've found if you do errands in the late afternoon). So if you can run errands earlier in the day and compromise nap #1, then the rest of the day you can get back on track so hopefully night time is ok.
Post by: becca24 on December 18, 2005, 09:17:35 am
Firstly Judy
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the queen of hopping out of bed saying things like "F*ck, d@mmit I've had enough of this sh!t"
I just spat my fried rice everywhere cracking up at this, seriously I swear some of it came out of my nose. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: F@ck d@ammit sounds so funny together !! I love it. I am going to hyphenate it and make it my new word - oh along with DANG...
Well everyone I sent my cards out a few days ago but not pics as I did not get time to see Santa until today. Well what a right bloody disaster that was. First we went to THREE stores before even finding a santa. Then Halle just thought he was the scariest thing ever and SCREAMED the shopping centre down!!! All the other mums and dads lined up after us thought it was pretty funny. Not me, I paid 15 bucks for a picture of my baby's red screaming tear streaked face !!!! I can see that face a about 4.30 every arvo!!!!!!!!!!! I will post the pic next thursday after i pick it up :roll: Oh well MIL bought her a pretty dress to wear on chrissy day so I will take a pic of her next to SIL's tree.
Enjoyed the chat on Sat (friday night). What about that post on "Had a bad birth, read this"
chuck a big sad over it !!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:
Ok calm down self. Deep breaths...............
(I had to edit that out myself so I didn't offend anyone)
Hope everyone is doing well - so much to comment on as I havn't posted in a while, not enough time. Just letting you all know that I have been reading along and loving hearing about everything you have all been up to. Judy and Nikki you both have got me thinking about what 'style' of parenting I would like to aim for. I basically had two Mother's (Mum and Nan) growing up and they were so different :roll: I am hoping to take the good things from both styles and leave out the bad.
Good night sleep tight you beautiful things
BTW Naomi and Kate - loved your pics in the "what a difference 9 months make" thread.
Post by: becca24 on December 18, 2005, 09:25:28 am
I had to share a picture of my girlfriends twins.................How cute are they??????????
Post by: james030405 on December 18, 2005, 09:54:34 am
Well, we have had a lovely weekend, I had my christmas party yesterday (at a brewery) and it was great. Had a family do today and James was a star, being a perfect gentleman etc.
Ankie: good on you and DH for making the decision to set a goal to help your lo sleep. I have been trying for about 3 weeks to get James to not wake at 5am and over the last 4 days I think I have finally made progress. I have made set nap times (sorry Traci, I know you don't like talking about this :oops: ) but so far I have had a 2 x 6:30am, 1 x 6am and today was 6:45am!!!! :lol: Fingers crossed that my hard work and also James' has finally paid off.
someone asked me if it was my libido not working? Yes, it was me. I have told DH that as of January 1, I am no longer taking the pill (or any other form of contraception). I really do think these synthetic hormones are playing havoic with me. I have told him he has 3 options, TTC, vasectomy or condoms. Regardless, it is up to him. He seems happy wiht this decision as it means I will no longer bite his head off. :lol:
Lovely photos everyone. Is the Sunday night chat 12pm Australia time MOnday? I will try and join in. Well I had better go. I want to read the "horror birth story".
Chat soon
Love Lisa
Post by: Richelle on December 18, 2005, 13:05:03 pm
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Ankie - may the force be with you. Dh used to say this in the beginning when he left for work and Sophie was a HANDFUL the 1st 2 months!! I know that you will succeed keeping in mind that all success is relative. I too think that you shouldn;t feed at night, Sophie seems to be less and less interested in her bottle so maybe it is a developmental thing? I honestly don't know and wish I could help more. Also could you and DH take shifts? As in each make sure that you have a few nights of full on sleep and then switch to 2 nights with Arwyn? That way you would be fortified in your decision not being as sleepy.
Naomi and Hannah - So good to see you, get your rest and know that we are always here for you!
Traci - What is going on over there???? I vote that you move your PC back downstairs :wink: ! I know you are busy but can;t wait to hear how Cole is doing and how that party went!!
Nikki - I will check out those sites as I too am waffling on 'parenting' styles. I just can't imagine NO not beoing part of my repetoire! Do you say no to Nathan?
Kate - OMG a t$^th!! That is great and good to know Rya\n is doing good with it! Sophie loves baby Tylenol as a result of her 8 teeth, I honestly cannot believe that she has 8 but I think we get a break now until the dreaded MOLARS start!
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I made huge progress on the house yesterday, namely Sophie's room but we still have an extra UGLY couch to deal with. Also what are you ladies doing with all your unused baby stuff, I am thinking of selling all mine to buy new stuff for next Bambino. We are lackiing major space in this new place! TTC is obviously very dissappointing AF here again but I suppose I was thousands of miles away from DH for 2 weeks! I am thinking seriously of putting it on hold until we are more settled, here, Canada...who knows.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 18, 2005, 13:30:13 pm
One of DH's suppliers is taking us out to the restaurant called Andiamo's (don't know if anyone has heard of it) but I love this place! Originally we were supposed to all bring our babies (there is only 2 of us who have kids) but then our friends bailed and got a sitter. Well, the only people we really know in Windsor who we would trust to babysit are the friends that are coming to the dinner soooo we have to bring Carter. It is a really fancy restaurant too. Hopefully he doesn't scream the house down!! :shock: :roll: I have no idea how he will make it through the full meal. Our friends said they really need a date night and I said "some date night ... you won't have to listen to your baby crying but you will have to listen to mine!!!!) I am kinda nervous/anxious about this evening. Atleast I get to get all dressed up ...
Hayley: I tried to keep Carter up, I wasn't trying to put him down early. He was hysterical by 8:00pm so I made him stay up until 8:15 but he totally conked out. Oh well, last night he went to bed at 8:30 and slept till 7:00 with a zillion night wakings in between :( He was doing so good too.
Andrea: We always do our errands after the 2nd nap. He is usually up by 3-3:30 so then we go out. Occasionally I will do them between the 2 naps but then I make sure I am home in time for 2 nd nap. Then it is always hard to get him to sleep.
Bec: I love the twins! That would have been a birth to see! Makes me miss my old job!!!
Traci: Where are you ... are you sleeping in??!! :lol: Did Cole have a breakthrough??
I will try and be at chat tonight!! Sounds like fun!!
Here's a pic from September I think of Carter and Boss (my Canadian Moose Hound)
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Post by: Judy on December 18, 2005, 15:47:55 pm
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Judy, I really hate this toddler sleep stage - it is do darn (read PLENTY of swear words :roll: ) frustrating! Last week I worked hard to get Nathan napping again (took ages!) because nights are crappy enough when he's overtired and waking 4-5 times, but to have him cranky and then wanting to sleep at 2pm for 2hrs and wakes snotty and then not settling for bed just to have night wakings and 5am mornings really takes it toll - he's probably only getting 11hrs total sleep on napping days and 9hrs on non-napping). I'm so at a loss and have lost the plot at him a few times in the last week (yelling, and I soooo don't want to do that :( )
Nikki it is exactly EXACTLY the same here. I just cannot figure out how to get a sufficient amount of sleep into Z&S. I've just started in the last few days having them nap again in the afternoon but then bedtime is pure craziness. I feel like I'm being squished between toddler/preschooler who won't go to bed at night and babies who are waking at 5am. I'm left with very little if any time to myself. And then yes they are cranky and miserable b/c they are tired and I'm tired and loosing cool is so easy to do in these situations.
(I had this all typed up and it seemed to make more sense but then I had to leave the room with the babies and came back to find Zoe had deleted all my typing and was typing herself :roll:)
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does the book explain a lot more than what is able to be gathered from online? Do you ever feel resentful that you've been really understanding, going with the flow etc etc and then something makes you snap and you wonder where the positive payback is for you? I think that's what I'm struggling with and need some sort of system for coping with the anger that comes up in me when we've been having a really good day and then he'll start to loose the plot over not napping and being tired and then I do too and revert into military mode. :oops:
Absolutely!! Again, I fall into the SAME trap. Patience coming out my ears, calm, calm, calm and then I hit my limit and I yell or give some awful lecture like "how many times....?" or "why can't you listen?" :( Not so nice. I guess the bright side is my girls are entitled to tell me if I'm not talking nicely and Zoe will "mommy, I don't like you not talking nice to me!" and I'll apologize and then try to explain that yes it wasn't nice of mommy to be short with you, JUST as it wasn't nice for you to scream in mommy's face.
The book doesn't have examples, try this in this situation - it's more to change thinking, to motivate one to have and work toward finding creative solutions and why. There's a lot on punishment/rewards and research info on why both are not so good. The website is more helpful for specific situations... used to not be as good as some people felt giving suggestions limited one's thinking - kinda like if they said say "xyz" that I'd only say "xyz" and not think on my own :roll: I love examples and suggestions as it helps me to clarify my own thoughts and actions.
That's part of why I started that thread in the discipline forum - to get support from each other... but it didn't take off so well that way and not everyone is coming from a UP perspective... it IS very different afterall.
I gotta run for now though, enjoying talking about this stuff too. :) Zoe wants breakfast.
Post by: Judy on December 18, 2005, 15:49:39 pm
Post by: mickymuscles on December 18, 2005, 15:59:23 pm
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 18, 2005, 16:30:59 pm
Post by: kate585 on December 18, 2005, 17:15:26 pm
Cathy, I wish you the best night. I bet Carter will charm them all. Maybe he can get pointers from James. :lol: I, too, am majorly impressed with your feeding/changing dance. I'm trying to picture it in my head and it just makes me laugh. Do you think he might need a bigger diaper or a diaper doubler for over night? Just a thought.
Nikki and Judy, thanks for getting us all thinking about the toddler years. They are coming around the corner.
Traaaaci! Where aaaaarrrre yoooou? Can you come out and play? :wink:
Well, I jinxed myself as usual. "Hope all the other teeth are this easy" she said after one friggin' night with a little point of a tooth sticking out. :roll: Well, Ryan did do pretty well, but at 4:45, he was crying. He had dropped his paci and his mouth seemed to hurt. Gave him Orajel and his paci, and he settled right back down and I left. :) But, I thought he'd probably want to be back up soon for some Advil and I selfishly didn't want to have to get up again. So I went back in to give him Advil and I think he was almost back asleep. Gave him the meds and then had to stand there for the next 30 or 40 minutes doing pu/pd. Should have left well enough alone, but I didn't. :evil: Finally, I thought he was only still awake b/c I was in there, so I left and he cried LOUDLY but only until I counted to 56. Then, next time it was in the 20's and so on. Eventually, just a bit of a wail every 2 minutes and then golden silence. So, I guess I should have left earlier. :? So hard to know, isn't it?
I should go. Am in the middle of moving a bookcase and dh went to get lunch and my Christmas present. :D Ryan's new favorite game is pull all the books off every bookcase in the house. Fine in his room, but not up here in the office. Found out we have a lot of crap books that I can donate to the library, so that's the end of the project then I can clean for my Dad's visit! (Have I mentioned he's coming tomorrow night for 2 days...and :D without his new wife who(m) I do not approve of, for reasons I think you may know...too long to go into here, but not embarrassed to talk about it, ifywim.)
Post by: Judy on December 18, 2005, 17:49:12 pm
Did I read that Arwyn had a better night? Great!! :) :)
I set my alarm for 4am to try w2s to get rid of this 5.15am wake up. Well we didn't have a 5.15am wakeup.... it was 4.45am instead!!! :(
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 18, 2005, 18:31:34 pm
I have no idea how many wakings she had... there were too many to keep track of. The 3 stirrings were before 10 pm! :shock: After that, she woke at 11:20, 12:00, 12:30, 1:20, etc. you get the idea... all the way 'til 7:30 and DH, bless his heart, put her back down each time. I think the increased wakings are due to no DF or middle of the night feeding. My boobs were going to explode this morning though :roll: .
Now who was it who said their DH read something from a book and then proceeded to lecture them with quotes from it? Well, I asked DH to read chapter 6 in BWSAYP to get ready for the next two weeks of sleep training. This morning, I am trying to sneak out of the room with the monitor and get my day started without Arwyn. Well, DH wakes up to tell me, "get her up because it clearly states in the book that you are not to let her sleep in". :shock: :roll: Yup... listens to the book, but not the wife. :roll: :roll:
Poor DH is now still sleeping at 10:30 am and Arwyn is down for nap #1. I am hopping in the shower. I really want to get into the discipline discussion but I need LOTS of time to explain what I do at school and what I plan to carry on doing here at home.
Ta ta... where in the heck are you, Traci? I ditto the comment that you should move your PC back to your dining room table!!
Post by: Judy on December 18, 2005, 19:04:56 pm
Oh and thanks for the e-card Ankie - Zoe has to listen to it over and over and over and each time it must play for a LONG time!! :) Too fun!! :)
oh well- this time will pass fast enough for all of us. They will grow up and we will be forgetting the rough patches and telling them how easy it was for us (as our parents do!) Even now dh will claim that Zoe went through the same difficult phases that Sarah goes through with sleep and acting as though she doesn't know we're here - I can't remember any of it!! :)
I'm trying to convince dh that starting in the new year we need to go out together just us once/month and let his mom come over... we'll go out after the babies go to bed... he just shrugs... the hard part is convincing him it's a good thing - he could care less.
Traci - I agree, move that pc right back to where it was and get back on here - it's probably the only thing you do for you anyway and now you've gone and made it less accessible!! :)
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 18, 2005, 20:21:44 pm
BW site is a lot of my ME time as well (thank god for a laptop on the dining room table that also stretches into the lounge), I do think about doing other things, but the computer is about the only thing I am able to multi-task on with the kids awake without Nathan thinking he needs to get in on the act and of course it doesn't need my full concentration or I'm able to do while giving them breakfast/lunch etc.
Judy, my mum also mentioned looking after the kids for me and DH to go out one night a month as well, we are so lacking in "us" time. So I think I will take her up on the offer. Fortunately with 7pm bedtimes here it will be doable esp with Danielle only being breastfed and I don't pump.
Ankie, that does sound pretty rough, great that DH is on board with it, just get through those 3 days and hopefully you'll see some improvements.
Bec, love the pic of the twins! :D
Yay, well both kids pretty much slept through (D did), Nathan just woke once since he's got a cough at the moment (but no drink of water - yeah!). I set up a fan in his room for white noise in the hopes it will block out the bloody birds chirping at 4.30am, he slept till just after 5.30am, so will keep with it and see if we can get him to 6am which is my goal. I also did some coaching before bed on calling out to us quietly rather than screaming for us and he did pretty good.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 18, 2005, 20:52:41 pm
My sister went to Tanzania and this bib is what she brought back for Arwyn. Not very African but sure is applicable to my darling miss.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 18, 2005, 20:55:56 pm
No time to get caught up now, just hoping everyone is having a good weekend. Gotta get ready to go. I'll check in again later (I hope!).
Post by: kate585 on December 18, 2005, 21:01:47 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 18, 2005, 21:28:29 pm
Bec..cute twins
Nancy glad you're back.
Definately harder to do things with the fitting in between naps etc, Kate.
We are just now putting up our tree today and I am feeling pretty cruddy. You don't even want to know what's going on with my cards...maybe they will say happy new year at this point...
Hannah
Post by: mickymuscles on December 18, 2005, 23:52:24 pm
bec: I think you asked what time the chat was at tonight---it's an hour later than our 'usual' chat. 10pm EST (New York Time). I hope you'll come and join in...and we won't have any 'guys' ruin our night out! :wink: :D
Post by: Jayri on December 19, 2005, 00:19:06 am
This weekend has been a rough one tho, Jay has been acting up and Riley hasn't really wanted anyone but me. All is good tho, I have let het be and put her down in her own. She is mad as hell, but tends to calm down after a while, her mad cry is different from her "real cry" iykwim.
Well I just wanted to pop on and say hi!!, I will see you all later.
Take Care
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 19, 2005, 00:24:22 am
Well, I *do* say no, but I really try and limit it. I don't use it an everyday response to Nathan doing something I'd rather he didn't. If I want to get attention if he was going for something, I'm more inclined to say "uh uh", give a quick explanation why not and then redirect. I would say no for an instant response for safety type stuff.
For example, today he was climbing up the handles of the drawers in the kitchen (it's something new he's discovered :roll: ). Now while in itself it actually doesn't bother me, it is a little dodgy and also the handles might break off. So instead of saying, "no, get down now", I say "ah Nathan, I'd like you to climb down please, I know it's fun to climb up there, but those handles might break". If he doesn't climb down I'll go and help him down (as in reclimb down, not yank him outta there). Then when I see that's not working, I'll say again in a non-condescending way "why is it not a good idea to climb up there?" and he'll say "because it might break" (obviously this has been work in progress because he can now talk in sentances and fully understand my request). If he continues to climb, I say in a fun voice "how about you take your stool into the lounge and use it to climb on the couches?" and he'll often at that point see the fun in that and the fact that I haven't risen to the bait. I've been calm, he's remained calm rather than it turn into a battles of wills and big scream fest - it is this type of thing that WILL turn into a tantrum if handled in an authoritarian way. My life is so much easier taking this route, sure it's more words, but the mental energy used is less than dealing with it in a disciplinarian way ie. NO, remove, time out, screaming etc etc. And the outcome is exactly the same, except this way he's less likely to redo it for a *reaction* from me, but because it's fun and once the fun's over, it's over. And we both have gone about our day in a pleasant way rather than feeling grumpy that it all happened.
When he was younger (maybe 18mths and able to say one word at a time) and would drive his cars and things on the walls (which I dont' seem to have an *issue* with these days) I'd explain that cars were for driving on the floor. Then if he redid it, I'd ask "where are cars meant to be driven?" and he'd either say floor or just put them on the floor. Now all of this was done in a non-threatening or non-warning type of way, but it helps him be responsible for what he's doing and helping to problem solve rather than me just saying "no".
Of course that is all my ideal and it is like that for the majority of the time, but I am still stuggling, but the more and more I see the positive outcome of this style it helps keep me focused. I have no idea if this is Unconditional Parenting, because I've still used my power to some degree. Thoughts Judy?
Post by: Richelle on December 19, 2005, 01:25:12 am
They came in while I was changing Sophie so could hear and not see them and the first thing I heard was a gruff, 'NO MILLY BE NICE FOR ONCE!", I thought maybe she had, actually... I can't even begin to think what I thought she was into to. Anyway, she had walked in and gone to the water cooler and turned that tap on, bless her. When we were finally eating, they kept calling her a brat :shock: :shock: , she was just interested in the back garden??? When the mom said to me that she was a brat for the 50th time I finally had had enough and I scooped her up, gave her a hug and said 'I don't think she is a brat I think she is a sweetheart', which she honestly was and soooo adorable!
I had read a thread about independent play on the activity board that Nikki directed us to re. independent play and it really struck a choard with me re: seperation anxiety. Sophie is suffering seperation anxiety right now and I can't imagine leaving her to whine and cry on her own so I play with her. I figure, who better to play with her than mommy and what the heck am I here for? Therefore I tink Sophie is adjusting well to learning where I am/she is/daddy is ect... This woman at this F/D BBQ says to me, you need to ignore her, she'll get it, she said; 'I have had to step over Milly since she was 8 months old in order to have some time for myself. :shock:
Basically all this winbagging has basically made me more committed to finding a non-utalitarian/disciplinary tool to help Sophie grow into a failry well-balanced kid!
Sooo long, I hope the next babe is a bit easier...fat chance right!! :wink:
Post by: mickymuscles on December 19, 2005, 01:41:06 am
I just had to come on for a quick brag session :oops: Grandpa came to visit today and bought Jack his first car......(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/mickymuscles/106_0675.jpg)
Post by: Richelle on December 19, 2005, 01:56:32 am
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Post by: Richelle on December 19, 2005, 02:02:57 am
Is anyone coming? Hope I have the right time!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 19, 2005, 02:16:58 am
KATE--I agree that somehow shopping is harder this year in between naps, feeding, usual routine, etc. of LOs. I can imagine it only gets harder with more. (Am I right Judy?)
NAOMI--sorry you've had a difficult weekend, hope your week is better.
RICHELLE--people who talk to their kids that way make me so mad. I just want to say to them, "Maybe if you didn't call him/her a 'brat' he/she wouldn't act like one" (not that this little one was, but if she keeps being treated like that, it won't be long!) I'm glad you were there to give her an extra squeeze and some encouraging words.
MICKY--that picture is too cute! What a little heartbreaker!
So, we've had the marathon weekend! Yesterday went to see Santa at DHs workplace. Liv did great (will post pictures later), then we did a little shopping, out to eat, then drove around and looked at Christmas lights. This morning, tried to make it to church, and by the time we were out the door we realized we'd only make it for the last 20 minutes...so we drove around and killed time before we were supposed to meet friends (from out of town) for lunch. Then home for a quick nap and back out to a Christmas party. Now we're home and DH is trying to put Liv to bed, but she's had a pretty ragged couple of days, so she's way off!!
Sorry to say, I won't make the chat tonight (I would still like to make one sometime...maybe in the new year!) I'm beat, so I'm off to cuddle with DH for a bit (even though we've been together for the last 2 days, I feel like I haven't really seen him YKWIM?), then probably go to bed. Good night all!
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 19, 2005, 03:40:15 am
I am sorry about the "missing in action" routine I pulled. But had some MIL,SIL,teething,me sick and Christmas issues around the Thomas household.
Thanks so much Kate,Roz,Michelle, Micky,and Ankie for the awesome cards and pics.
I really am going to reply, but it just may be a surprize when okay.
I hope there are some great nappers, and night sleepers for Christmas, as well as no teeth or colds. ( I guess this could sort of be my Christmas wish list heh)...
Here is a little something a friend (with identical boys 4 days older than my girls + a 2 yr old dd) sent me.. enjoy:
Dear Santa,
I've been a good mom all year. I've fed, cleaned and cuddled my children on demand, visited the doctor's office more than my doctor, sold sixty-two cases of candy bars to raise money to plant a shade tree on the school playground.
I was hoping you could spread my list out over several Christmases, since I had to write this letter with my son's red crayon, on the back of a receipt in the laundry room between cycles, and who knows when I'll find anymore free time in the next 18 years.
Here are my Christmas wishes:
I'd like a pair of legs that don't ache (in any color, except purple, which I already have) and arms that don't hurt or flap in the breeze; but are strong enough to pull my screaming child out of the candy aisle in the grocery store. I'd also like a waist, since I lost mine somewhere
in the seventh month of my last pregnancy. If you're hauling big ticket items this year I'd like fingerprint resistant windows and a radio that only plays adult music; a television that doesn't broadcast any programs containing talking animals; and a refrigerator with a secret compartment
behind the crisper where I can hide to talk on the phone. On the practical side, I could use a talking doll that says, "Yes, Mommy" to boost my parental confidence, along with two kids who don't fight and three pairs of jeans that will zip all the way up without the use of power tools. I could also use a recording of Tibetan monks chanting "Don't eat in the living room" and "Take your hands off your brother,"
because my voice seems to be just out of my children's hearing range and can only be heard by the dog.
If it's too late to find any of these products, I'd settle for enough time to brush my teeth and comb my hair in the same morning, or the luxury of eating food warmer than room temperature without it being served in a Styrofoam container. If you don't mind, I could also use a
few Christmas miracles to brighten the holiday season. Would it be too much trouble to declare ketchup a vegetable? It will clear my conscience immensely. It would be helpful if you could coerce my children to help
around the house without demanding payment as if they were the bosses of an organized crime family.
Well, Santa, the buzzer on the dryer is ringing and my son saw my feet under the laundry room door. I think he wants his crayon back. Have a safe trip and remember to leave your wet boots by the door and come in and dry off so you don't catch cold. Help yourself to cookies on the
table but don't eat too many or leave crumbs on the carpet.
Yours Always, MOM...!
P.S. One more thing...you can cancel all my requests if you can keep my children young enough to believe in Santa.
Post by: Judy on December 19, 2005, 04:34:40 am
Nikki - I think your approach is great! :) I think Unconditional Parenting is all about that. Talking and talking and talking AND listening - listen more than you talk (as it should always be with whomever we relate to I guess eh?) So I'll shut up now... hee hee just kidding - fat chance on that one ladies!! :) So the idea of finding common preference is finding something else that the child would like as well or better and that you would like -like taking his stool to the lounge and climbing on the couches. Or going off and doing something you both like together if time and opportunity permits. And as you suggest Nikki, explaining why you don't want them to do something. Climbing on the drawers could break the drawers and probably no one in the house would mind. My girls jump (I've probably said this already) from the coffee table to the couch. Well none of us here mind that happening to our couch (it belongs to all of us so we must all agree how it's used) since it's 15yrs old and still holding itself up well (with a cover of course). But they are asked not to just jump up and down on the couch b/c it's easy to get bounced off and they could easily break an arm or knock their head on the table. But a single jump from table to couch seems harmless to me. But we discussed it and decided together whether this was ok with all of us. AND I explain that most other people don't like their couches to be used that way.
I think UP is a lot about not reacting but working through with children. It's hard to not react. When I am really tired I'm really off my game and the girls know that things are 'off' then they're off - which feeds me, which feeds them, which feeds me... you get the picture... This is actually where I gave in more on tv... ok everyone to the king size bed - I'll turn on the tv and sleep while you all watch! :) I figured tv was better than me being miserable to them (I think I could have used this strategy this morning now that I think of it). So Zoe dumps a cup of milk on the living room carpet. Try not to react, calm, breathe, BREATHE!! :) and figure out why. Think about it, talk to her, ask her. Ask her if she'll help clean it up, suggest she clean it up while I help her. Find out why she felt she had to do this (IF she knows and can express it) and explain better options for next time. Many times I can remain calm. Sometimes I still huff and give a "what did you do that for?!" crank. A lot of times it's just being over tired and needing more control. In this instance she'd already said the milk was old (was in the fridge from the morning and she didn't like that the cup was cold) and we told her it was fine. SHE said it wasn't fine, it was her milk and she was annoyed that we wouldn't listen to her. Maybe instead of saying "it's fine" we could have worked through what she thought we should do and what we thought. If we'd have yelled, time out etc. she would have cried, screamed, kicked the wall and been hurt and sad that we were mad at her. AND I still would have had to clean it up. As it was she and I cleaned together, she felt safe and loved and agreed that maybe there were better options. Done quicker, point made and we move one. Did she ever do it again. Yeah - with other stuff. But timeout wouldn't have changed that either in fact this type of thing is happening much less now. Time outs changed nothing but this soft loving approach does help. She's started it again a bit - I think just to test and see if we still won't get mad. Although see today daddy put her in her room for dumping milk and cereal on the table. I asked him why he did that and he said he was tired and couldn't think anything else through. Yeah - I understand. Don't beat ourselves up. Move on. We'll get another chance to work through that type of situation again soon ;)
In fact I'm off to bed now without completely catching up here. Too tired and it was such an off day for all of us at least for half the day that I just want it to be done with :)
Post by: Judy on December 19, 2005, 04:36:13 am
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 19, 2005, 06:13:19 am
So wasn't it me that asked for chat to be at 7pm tonight and I didn't even show up?!?! So sorry. We got stuck at a christmas cookie party and by the time I got home and fed T, I popped in but the girls had left exactly 12 minutes earlier! :(
Anyhoo...THANKS SO MUCH TO ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT NAPS VS. BEDTIME. They have been very helpful and have helped me come to a conclusion...I will mess up the mornign nap on the days I have stuff to do instead of the afternoon nap because I think Nikki brought up a great point. If am nap goes awry, then you can always get back on track with the afternoon nap....AND...since the afternoon nap is the one they end up keeping into toddlerhood, I will try to keep that one "sacred". Thanks again! So last night and tonight though we had 2 parties to go to, so of course bedtimes were messed up...so I'm sure we will be getting a few wakings. Kinda sad that I feel I owe it to myself to get out to these parties and see friends and family after spending the last 8 months protecting her schedule. SO I do something for myself and then get paid back with middle of the night wakings! :? :roll: Oh well, such is life!
Judy and Nikki, I need to copy and paste your dialogue going back and forth because right now to be honest I can't keep up with it all, but I know down the road it would be sooooo helpful. Geez, maybe I will try and work on that.
Ankie-So Sorry about the continued sleep troubles but with both of you on board I know you will lick it. Good luck and know we are all rooting for you guys. Way to go DH as well! And it was my DH that when armed with some information used it against me too! :lol: :roll:
Jody-loved the Christmas letter. So cute and soooo true eh?
I got cards from Bec, Macaire, and Karen this weekend. Thanks so much!My mantle is full with so many beautiful babies!
Micky-when I saw Jack I just had to say "ahhhhh". he is too cute. So looks like his casts are off now right?
Nancy-wow busy weekend. Time to slow down a little now and take some time for yourself tomorrow.
Hannah and Kate and anyone else who mentioned about fitting things in, you all know how I'm dealing/or not dealing with getting stuff done with this lo! I think everyone is getting their gifts in bags this year!
Good night all
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 19, 2005, 07:04:26 am
And Hannah-I wanted to say sooooo sorry. It dawned on me the other day that I forgot to do the Pu/Pd sheet. I am so sorry that is really not like me. Do you still need something because I can do it?
Really sorry. :(
Post by: FrasersMum on December 19, 2005, 08:08:30 am
I just wanted to share a cute little story....
DH was just running the vacuum cleaner around the house and Fraser completed a full lap of the house, following the vacuum around the whole way :lol: Not touching, just shadowing.
They have just finished and DH has said "well done Fraser, I think we did a good job" :lol: 8)
I just thought that was pretty cute!
That's all for now, not talking about sleep here for the time being.
Sorry I couldn't hang around in the chat - had an urgent work matter.
3 cards today "HOORAY!!" - thanks Michelle, Ankie and Bec.
Finally sent my cards out today - big apologies to all OS as they will not make it in time for Christmas.
OK, bye for now
Jo
Post by: becca24 on December 19, 2005, 08:27:57 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 19, 2005, 08:30:06 am
Post by: FrasersMum on December 19, 2005, 08:32:34 am
Bec, at least you used the polite term "spag bol" as opposed to the cruder version "spag bog"!!
Post by: becca24 on December 19, 2005, 08:35:20 am
Nikki - Forgot to say how much I cracked up at Nathan and the sheep-s=hagging LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 19, 2005, 08:43:10 am
OK, off to bed.
Post by: becca24 on December 19, 2005, 09:55:54 am
Lisa - can you post your schedule again for me please. I tried to scan back through the pages but it was giving me head spins. I am trying to crack the early wakings as well. I want to gradually work towards a later bedtime too because when daylight savings is over I'll be stuffed with these times. :roll:
Post by: Judy on December 19, 2005, 12:37:57 pm
So today I decided that's it. Well last night really. I went to bed realizing that I was waking at 5am everyday and feeling like a victim of poor sleep (poor me!!) and allowing this to give me a good excuse to be cranky which then lasted into breakfast - at LEAST. Then at 5am I realized that *I* was part of the 5am wakeup problem by feeding these little ladies. Of course they'd eat well - hadn't eaten all night BUT they weren't crying that loud I'm hungry cry, just fussing. I just didn't want them waking each other, or the older girls and I just wanted the fastest way back to sleep. Well it wasn't fast anymore as they wouldn't go back to sleep for at least 2hours and they were never happy during that 2hours. So today I decided milk bar opens at 7am :) They were up at 5am on the dot, and didn't fall back to sleep until 6am or a bit after. Kept telling myself that a week of this work and interupted sleep will be good in the long run as all 6 of us were suffering the way it was... I was SO happy they went back to sleep without feeding. I KNEW they could do it. Woke then at 7.10am!! AND Zoe and Sarah slept through it all (well Zoe woke at 5.30 but only asked to be tucked in -she stayed in bed!!) and at 7.30am THEY are still sleeping. Which lately hasn't happened because K&H fuss from the moment they are off the boob at 5.30am until they fall back to sleep at 7 or 8 or 8.30 :roll: Here's to hoping it doesn't take a whole week - but if it does I'm prepped and I'm smiling!!! No more grouchy face!! (I hope)
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 19, 2005, 13:27:36 pm
Dinner was great though ... all paid for by DH's supplier who was taking us out. Too bad I couldn't partake in the alcohol :(
We got home late (9:00pm) but Carter went right to bed and slept all night but got up an hour earlier than normal. So, since I was so tired and Dh had already left for Ohio (let's hope no car accidents this time) I fed Carter in my bed and let him SLEEP on the BOOB! Double bad momma!!! But I got an extra hour of sleep and he is much happier now!!
Richelle: Poor little girl (from the BBQ) It is so sad the way some people treat their children :(
Micky: Love the car pics!! Jack is adorable and he looks like he's ready to ride!!
Jody: I love the letter to Santa, esp the last part about being young enough to believe in Santa!! Glad you're back too!!
Judy: Love Love LOVE Grey's Anatomy. I taped it last night because I went to bed early. Now I am sad that it was a rerun :(
Well, that's it for me. Still no sign of Traci eh? Hmmm, wonder where she is. I'm bummed that I missed chat. I did go on at 9:15 or so but everyone who was there early had already left. So, I went to bed!!!
Have a great day ladies!
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 19, 2005, 14:42:27 pm
Judy- I haven't been around much but I read your last post about UP, and I completely agree that that is the way to be with your children. Dh and I already talk about how we are going to handle when "this" or "that" happens and we are all about the UP!
As with the 5 am wake- it must be a twin thing. The girls were doing that for a few weeks, and I decided to try wake-to-sleep. (it was 5 am on the DOT every night) . We did it one night, they slept until 730! We went to do it the next night but I heard one of them russling around at 330 so I figured she interupted her own patter, let them be, 745am. Now for the last 5 nights we have had UNINTERUPTED SLEEP!!! 730-730!!! Amazing!
just thought it might be worth a try???
Its awesome to hear that everyone is taking part in all of their Christmas parties, it only comes once a year I figure so whats a few "stay up to late" nights heh??
We went to a Kids Christmas party yesterday put on by Sean's work. they rented a whole sports facility (has a play area, gym, wave pool and conference rooms... etc...) we took the twins swimming!!! Soo fun!
Okay I have to get the dogs water dish out of Maisie's way before she dumps it (again)..
Take care, Jods
p.s. Ladies that were at the chat last night, no word on the MIL coming yet, we should find out today- cross our fingers!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 19, 2005, 14:49:24 pm
Judy--good for you on getting sleep. Hope it continues and it doesn't take a whole week to straighten out!
Cathy--glad you had fun at your party
We had a pretty good night. Liv seemed to settle back into routine pretty well after her hectic weekend. Today should be pretty low-key, just getting things done around the house. We're leaving on Friday for Christmas with my family, so there's much to be done before we leave. I may have to go out this afternoon to finish some shopping (which I'm already dreading), but hopefully it can be done quickly between naptimes.
I forgot to mention we had a scary incident the other night when we were out to eat. I gave Liv a piece of cucumber, and she was loving it...sucking on it like crazy. Then all of a sudden she started making a funny noise and she started turning a little flushed. She started coughing and this HUGE chunk of cucumber came shooting out of her mouth. It was so scary...all I could think was to rack my brain for the things they taught us in the infanct CPR class, and of course I couldnt' remember anything! I'm glad it came out on it's own. Has anyone else's LO choked like that on solids yet? I gave her a pretty big chunk of the cucumber, b/c I didn't know if she could get smaller pieces mushed up enough to swallow. I was hoping she would just kind of suck and gnaw on it...not really swallow it.
Well, better go fix breakfast. Have a fun-filled day, girls! Here's to good naps today!
Post by: Richelle on December 19, 2005, 15:38:29 pm
She is getting much better understanding finger foods, her lunch everyday is all finger/big people food and she always has some of our dinner. Only purees at dinner basically but she also has 8 teeth and is a voracious little eater, which makes things so much easier!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 19, 2005, 15:48:20 pm
OK, here are pics from our trip to Santa on Saturday. I was impressed that she didn't scream, and we actually got a smile out of her!
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/nbackues/100_1179.jpg)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/nbackues/100_1175.jpg)
Post by: Erin M on December 19, 2005, 15:56:01 pm
Traci.....where are you? We need to send out a search party.
Jodi - waiting to hear about MIL - and love the letter - and I totally agree with your Christmas list
Cathy - some people are so stupid, who gives an entire lemon to a baby? I mean Katie reaches out for plenty of things (most of them nonedible) but that doesn't mean she gets them.
Judy - nice work, hope it continues...maybe you'll get some sleep for Christmas
Jo - so funny you were at work when I was in my pajamas
Micky - can't wait to hear how your day went (and how stinky Jackson was under those casts).
Richelle - I hate when people talk to their kids like that too
Kate - for some reason I never connected teaching styles and parenting styles, but seems like I should have! Makes sense.
OK, have to run - hi to everyone else I meant to comment on!
Post by: Erin M on December 19, 2005, 15:57:47 pm
Post by: Judy on December 19, 2005, 17:16:04 pm
Jody. Now JODY!!! Lookeeee here you. I saw your post on the multiples thread about wake2sleep and how awesome it worked on the first night. So I tried it - I tried it because of YOU Miss Jody!!! ;) and so at 4am the alarm goes off and I go in and I do the stuff and sure enough they did NOT wake at 5am... JODY, are you listening girl? ;) They woke at 4.45am !!! YES that's right 15 (FIFTEEN) minutes earlier!!!! :) So screw that idea! :) I think the interuption woke them enough that they then didn't get past the next 45min cycle. But I was inspired by you!! AND how awesome on the 7.30-7.30 thing!!!! The BEST right there.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 19, 2005, 17:22:23 pm
Nancy: Jackson chokes frequently too. I have also had to give a good whack on the back before too. :roll: So, yes, just like you Richelle jackson no longer gets strapped in either! :shock: Yesterday I gave him some broccoli to try, I didn't chopped it small enough....you know where this goes...I had to dig it out of his mouth and he started crying! :roll: I should have known better. oh well.
Where oh where has traci gone, where oh where is she???
I've got a busy afternoon but I'll be sure to post later on our cast removal experience and 'first' bath :D I'm hoping the cast removal goes ok because they have to remove pins from his poor little feet too. :(
oh yeah, great pics nancy!! I love how pudgy olivia is!! Baby rolls are priceless!
I had a ton of fun on the chat last night girls!
TTFN!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 19, 2005, 17:25:57 pm
I took notes :)
So...
Jody, I loved that santa letter. How cute thanks for sharing it and glad that you are back. That christmas party for the kids sounded like fun. I want to take Sophie swimming but haven't had a chance to yet. I think she would really like it.
Judy good work on keeping the milk bar closed till 7! About the discipline thing...I am really excited to read UP. I was reading your post and was glad that you mentioned dh and his approach (at least for that moment) I am concerned about how to get dh on board with a more thoughtful parenting/discipline style. He is very reactive with threats etc. I couldn't believe my ears a few times this weekend with brendan dh was saying things like..."you have to be good or santa will bring you a lump of coal" I mean c'mon...what year is it already???? :shock: Also, we have been having some issues with brendan lying. Dh and I have discussed it and have sort of a united front, but he still reverts back to the whole "if you do this...I am going to do this..." method. Which actually wouldn't even be soooo bad if his consequences were even in the ballpark of being realistic. Anyhow...he is just totally going on how he was raised. I have never met a person who is so "happy" with his childhood that he sees no problem in repeating exactly what his parents did with him with his children. Hmmmm....ever since I can remember I have been saying to myself (and to my parents) "When I have my OWN kids I am never going to ..."
I do think we made a little headway when we discussed why Brendan was lying to daddy about his behavior at school. We finally discovered that he is embarassed and doesn't want to tell. So we talked about how daddy and hannah and mommy and jeff will always love him no matter what marks he gets in school. He actually seemed a little surprised by that(poor little guy)...so maybe that was it?
I think it helps to supply him with words to describe his emotions, but I don't want to be telling him how he feels...IYKWIM...any ideas about this?
Also, DH and brendan were "play fighting" which I HATE! but anyway, dh got kicked square in the nose (hmmm...maybe he'll learn his lesson) and got really p*ssed AT brendan. I had to step in. I said "Brendan daddy is not mad at you, you were not trying to hurt him. He is just mad because he got hurt" I swear if I hadn't jumped in dh might have said something like "If you do that again, santa's gonna bring you..." :roll: :oops: So emabrassing that dh has no clue sometimes. Hopefully we can work on it together...It's not as if I know everyting (just most things right? :wink: )
Andrea. Do Not worry about the pu/pd thing. It's not even necessary. We are doing great without it. If we run into troubles, I'll either make Amy and MIL read the book :) or I'll ask you again. Don't even think about it.
Jo cute story about the vaccum. I think I was most impressed that it was dh running the vac and not you...does my dh even know how to run the vac???Hmmmmm
Bec...OK, a little slow here, don't really know whay spag bog is funny/offensive??? But PLEASE fill me in!! You know how much I love these types of things :)
Ankie, looking forward to an update on your night. Also, I can't wait to hear about your classroom discipline ideas...please post soon :)
Cathy...a lemon! Yikes! Good for Carter. What a prince.
Nancy my Sophie chokes all the time too. Dh used to get mad at me too and say things like "I guess there'll be no more (insert food culprit here) for Sophie" And I would calmly explain that she has to learn and she can't learn if we only feed her purees. So...no worries on that. Baby heimlich is pretty easy btw, you could probably look it up online for a refresher.
OK, finally...what's up with all the HAIR?! All these lo's with pony tails and what not??? Sophie still has peachy fuzz with a few wisps starting to grow over her ears. The little hair dos are too cute.
Thanks for the chat. Sorry it was so short. Jo...figured it was work related.
Later gals.
Hannah
Post by: Colesmom on December 19, 2005, 17:26:46 pm
PHEW-no time to catch up on the 14 or so pages I've missed, not until tonight anyway. So, since chat we've had two okay nights...Friday and Saturday his sleep from 7-11 or so was uninterrupted. I still fed at that time as wanted to be rested for the weekend events. Middle of the night we still had wakings and started our days at 5:30
Party was great, stressful but everyone enjoyed themselves. There is a DH rant but no time to elaborate.
Sunday I had a girls brunch which was fabulous and relaxing and i was away from the house for 5.5 hours. woo hoo!
okay, so last night we finally bit the bullet and took Cole out to our friends place. I put him down in his pack n play at 7:30. Since it was a new place I kept my hand on his hip and he held my hand and mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmd for 15 minutes. Seems whether he's crying or mmmmmmmmmmmmmg it takes 15 for him to settle.
DRUM ROLL PLEASE
Didn't hear a single peep until we went to get him up to go home at 11:00. He woke up, not happy as we got him in the car. Fell asleep in 10 min. for 15 min. then took about 10 min. with hand on hip when we got home. He then slept 11:45 until 5:00AM
I then put him down, hand on hip again and he slept until 6:15!!! Holy smokes girlies. SOOOO this was our first night without the night feed!!!!
We've got short naps here now...I'm thinking the A time that was okay for the last few days or so is too short now that he's more rested but we'll adjust for that.
Anyhoo, wanted to share my good news. Gotta go to the nap forum now. Haven't done my duty as my connection keeps dying.
will catch up with you all later.
Oh yes-and wanted to say to ERIN-it does work...getting them up and driving around at 11pm! :wink:
Lots of love and thanks for the support (that's a shout out from cole to all his other mommys)
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 19, 2005, 17:28:30 pm
Yes where is Traci!!! And Holly??!!
Micky good luck with the casts.
And yes...cute pics with santa. I guess we have to do that this week. Kinda dreading it...thinking she's going to "scream the mall down" like Hallee et al :)
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 19, 2005, 17:30:10 pm
Yay!
Hannah
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 19, 2005, 17:55:38 pm
As for eating, the girls don't really choke on anything (yet) Im sure it will happen though. I try and keep newer foods to when Sean is around- being a Paramedic I feel pretty safe he'd know what to do if they choked!
I was worried about the cheerios but they are awesome and gobble them up (they also have 6 teeth too though so that helps).
Hannah, when you take Sophie swimming, avoid the wave pool! It was a little overwhelming, but when the waves stopped I swear the girls thought they were in a tub with 100 other people!
TTFN
Jods...
p.s. Sorry again my dear Judy :cry:
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 19, 2005, 18:11:20 pm
Thanks for all the support on the choking thing. I think I will check out baby heimlich online for a refresher. (Thanks whoever suggested that...I forgot!) Also, what types of "table foods" did you start your LOs out on. So far I've only given Liv some cheese, Gerber veggie puffs, and Cheerios...any other suggestions? Of course, then there was the cucumber incident. I'm just not sure what to give her. I almost gave her some of my macaroni and cheese the other day, but then I remembered I had spiced it up pretty good, so I need to remember to take some stuff out for her before I add the "extras" (like salt, pepper, other spices).
Post by: mickymuscles on December 19, 2005, 18:22:47 pm
Post by: Colesmom on December 19, 2005, 18:33:17 pm
Post by: Richelle on December 19, 2005, 19:10:29 pm
Nancy what great pics. Sophie LOVES toast. I buy whole wheat buns and make small slices KWIM? Also chicken breast cut into strips, egg yolk nuked and cut up, steamed baby carrots, banana's, mandarin orange segments, pears, cheese, potatoes, penne noodles seem to be the perfect size, I could go on - no egg yolks or honey are the only things I am holding off on until she is a year.
Micky,' I can't wait to hear how Jackson does, ohhh pins in his feet poor little lamb!
Hannah - I am going to cut Sophie's hair today, I'll post a pic later!
JOdy - great to hear that you have some good little sleepers going on!
Sophie and I are enjoying a chill out day today - I had better get back to the couch!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 19, 2005, 19:12:27 pm
Traci, I'm probably too late to give advice so I won't say anything just in case you did the opposite :) I am sure whatever you did was the right thing to do.
Just had to post some pics....of my hockey guy and my little girl. Notice how Brendan is already missing the obligatory teeth :)
Hannah
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 19, 2005, 20:29:57 pm
Nancy, I had to do the baby heimlich (sp?) on Nathan when he was about 7mths old - VERY scary! I was very close to calling 111. One thing I learned out of it - never feed a crying baby - yeah probably stupid of me in the first place. :roll: :oops: Anyway the offending object popped out fine and within 10secs he was totally over it and off playing again. Of course it's made me paranoid for ever. Even now he still chokes on things - hence me pushing the don't eat while you're lying down or running around rule. There is a difference to gagging on food in the back of their throats which is developmental (Danielle did that yesterday on cucumber in fact, sounds like the same story huh?) and can make them vomit opposed to actually inhaling food and choking. PS: Nathan was facinated with the santa pics and kept wanting to look at them. :) He again yesterday looked and waved at santa about 5 times but refused to go and sit on his lap. Food we're doing is (she has no teeth): avocado chunks, oven fries (the non-fat type), roasted potato/sweet potato/chicken (I find chicken is fine if it's roasted because it's still juicy and tender instead of dryish - but kind of shreaded rather than chunks), brocolli stems (I don't break them up small, but make sure it's on the other side of well done so it crumbles when she sucks on it), toast fingers (ours is gluten free so crumbles anyway).
Judy, great getting past that 5am waking - worth the time working on it if you can get them all to have a 7am wake up.
Traci, yay for getting a great night out of Cole. Sorry not sure what to advise on the naps - what did you decide?
Catch ya later girls. :D
Post by: Daft Ada on December 19, 2005, 20:39:47 pm
I'm Lara, turned 30 on Oct 16th and DS Jake was born on 26th April. He was a induced 1 month premmie and was in NICU for 8 days before we both went home (and boy was I glad to get home!). We knew that DS was coming early as in June 2003 we lost our DD Jaia Angel the day she was born to Group B Strep. They induced me early as a precautionary measure and kept Jake in so they could administer antibiotics prophylactically. Once he'd got the "all clear" and we'd got breastfeeding well established he came up to me in Post-natal ward and a day later we were both discharged.
Now, nearly 8 months later he is happily well and trully weaned onto solids and is taking formula (I'd pretty much dried up at around 4 months when I started weaning him).
It goes without saying he is a very special boy but sometimes I really feel that he knows as much and plays on it as he's a little s*d with his sleeping.
He has always refused to sleep on his back, doesn't self-soothe and always wakes up around 30-45 minutes after being put down at bedtime. With regard to putting him down awake fro his naps, he used to nurse to sleep but on the advice of my Health visitor (to get him learning to self-soothe) I have started putting him down awake. Now (in the main) he just cries almost solidly for an hour until I get him up again.
Anyway, enough of me complaining as that wasn't my point. I was just trying to give you all an image of my cheeky little DS! He is a very much-loved (possibly over-pampered) little boy and I thoguth I'd pop onto the March/April thread to say hi and introduce ourselves.
erm, should I say anymore? best to say nothing and be thought a fool than to continue and remove all doubt I fear.....
take care ladies,
Lara
xxx
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 19, 2005, 20:55:47 pm
Have you got the BW book and been working through how to settle to sleep using pu/pd etc? I don't think are spoiling your boy, he's just learnt how to settle one way (ie feeding to sleep) and now the method is changing. So if you work through it slowly, it will all work out ok. The book has some great examples though with what you're dealing with. :) BTW, my dd has just decided to start sleeping on her tummy, and has the best sleeps now.
Come chat to us again. :)
OK, I'd better get off here now and get my errands sorted out. Still gotta buy my mum a present and get some food for Christmas dinner (we're having a bbq with friends) - lunch is at my mums.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 19, 2005, 21:21:15 pm
Enough about me and my rantings ... Yeah Cole! Maybe his later bedtime is what did the trick. I think you said 7:30 and he normally goes down at 5:30ish right?! You must of been thinking the whole time "Is he ok in there?!" when he didn't wake up!
Ok ok must go, all I hear is wahh wahhh wahhhhh! When will this madness end??!!! :shock: :roll: :cry:
Oh ya, Welcome Lara!!!
Post by: Judy on December 19, 2005, 21:38:57 pm
Hannah - I think kids understand that there is a difference between two people, so daddy is different than mommy and reacts differently. BUT it's good to have consistency. SO daddy my be more calm or react more quickly but the 'consequences' or lack thereof are generally the same. But it's a long road to get there for some. My dh is one of the most patient guys I've ever met. It's odd for him to get frustrated with the girls. He's been tired lately and even he'll admit that he's making threats (if you don't hurry up there'll be no stories tonight :roll:) when he normally wouldn't. I think he, like many of us, just gets caught in the moment -stuck trying to figure out how to make them do what we want - AHHHHH but there's the aha moment "make them do what we want" this is the mentality I'm trying to get away from. But it's tough tough tough.
Post by: Colesmom on December 19, 2005, 21:54:21 pm
how much does your bedtime vary ladies? 30 min. or so depending on naps? or are your los all pretty good at going down roughly the same time? sorry-know we've been over this but don't remember.
Post by: Erin M on December 19, 2005, 22:28:08 pm
Lara - welcome! Nice to "meet" you - as Nikki said, the book is very helpful, and we'll be happy to help you sort out any questions you may have. Sorry to hear of the loss of your DD and congratulations on your lovely son.
Beautiful pics Hannah - such cuties!
Post by: Richelle on December 19, 2005, 23:17:00 pm
I got Xmas cards from Traci, Michelle, Kate, Lisa and Ankie, there are all great thanks so much, all the pictures are on my fridge :) !
Welcome Lara!
Post by: becca24 on December 19, 2005, 23:40:42 pm
Traci - Welcome back! Sounds as if Cole is doing better, well done.
Lara - Welcome to the thread. I hope you can join in with us. I think you are our first UK Mum. Or are you Mam??
Hi to everyone else hope you are having a good day
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 19, 2005, 23:46:02 pm
Welcome to Lara!! So sorry to hear about your wee angel Jaia. Must have been heartbreaking for you, no wonder you say DS is over-pampered. Totally understandable!! Nice to have you join us here.
Cathy - so sorry to hear of Carter's teething troubles. Have you tried the Hyland's tablets?? Molly hasn't any teeth through yet but when she is majorly fussy, drooly and her cheeks are bright red, I give her those and she calms right down.
Judy - yukky waking up so early! Those little baby girls better smarten up! BW Auntie Jody should head to TO and give them a talkin' to!
Nancy - love the picture of Santa and Olivia. She looks so cute in her little fur trimmed outfit!! Great picture of yourself too, another BW Hot Mama!! 8)
All this talk of babies choking has got me afraid now. I want to take a CPR course, gosh I better get on that. I haven't given Molly much food other than pureed jar food and cheerios! She was eating well about a month ago then all of a sudden decided she didn't want any "food" just her bottles. Some days she was only taking about 24-28 oz. total and nothing else. She's slowly now deciding to give it a try again! Kids, can never figure them out! :shock:
Micky - been thinking of you and Jackson today. Was going to call as we headed out to WEM today but then read you were having the casts off!! Hopefully it went well, I am awaiting your post. Wooooo Wooooo! Nice Christmas present if all went well.
Jody - 6 teeth?!?!?! Happy 9 months old to the little darlings BTW.
Traci - so nice to see you back!! Our bedtime is somewhere between 6-7 pm depending on whether she's had the catnap or not. No catnap = bed at 6:15 or so. Catnap = bed at 6:45 or so.
Richelle - love the new avatar. What a happy little one! :lol:
Molly and I were at West Edmonton Mall today and finally finished off the Christmas shopping. Whew!! So glad that is done for another year. Is anyone else NOT buying anything for their babies?? :oops: I figure she will get enough with grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends etc. Anyone else?
Going to post this picture of Molly and I at Beacon Hill Park in Victoria. We had a grand time feeding and watching the ducks. We don't really have a spot for that here so it was quite exciting (for me anyways).
Post by: Judy on December 20, 2005, 00:01:25 am
Sounds like you've had such heartbreaking as well as joyful experiences in the past while. I cannot even imagine what you've been through :(
Your son was born the same day as my girls!! :)
Traci - catnap and bedtime. I kinda just wing things here... if the second nap ends early (like 2pm) then I do try to put them down for a catnap somewhere between 4 & 4.30pm for about 30min or so. Bedtime is somewhere between 7 & 7.30pm (usually closer to 7 if I can but we've also been as late as 8pm somenights). I've already mentioned my trick of feeding around 5pm if there was no time for a catnap but they seem tired - just a 10-15min snooze on the boob if they choose to. Although I'm not necessarily a good one to give input as with life here it's so busy at all moments that I can easily loose 30min so any hopes of keeping track of 15min is lost on me! :)
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 20, 2005, 00:09:43 am
I got cards today from Traci, Lisa, Naomi, and Holly (where has she been btw??). They are all wonderful ... love love love checking the mailbox every day!!!
Bath time! Have a good night everyone!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 20, 2005, 00:18:01 am
I do set naps though 9am and 1pm (since I drop Nathan at pre-school at 9am, D's in bed by 9-9.15am - even if she was tired sooner, it's not an option and then they both go down for a nap at 1pmish).
HTH
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 20, 2005, 00:50:13 am
Cute pic Michelle.
Tracy, we usually keep bedtime the same because she has to be up by 6:30 to go to daycare. So I figure I have to get her down by 6:30 no matter what has happened during the day. We have dropped the cat nap completely though. HTH
Btw we have also dropped the df completely!!! Yay!
Although I do miss it. It was so nice to cuddle her warm soft little sleepy body in my arms...as you all well know.
Just went to traget for a few things...ugh...I feel like hibernating until after Christmas. It's just wild out there.
What else?? Thanks for the discipline feedback. I know brendan's aquite abit older than the older kids on this thread but i thought I would ask anyway. I think it is going to be a challenge for dh and I to stay on the same page with it all, but we have already overcome some pretty huge hurdles so, here goes...
Welcome Lara. Don't think you can spoil him right now. Lots of lovin is a good thing, IMO.
Oh yeah...Nikki I had to laugh, being a teacher, who deals with kids who would rather NOt go to school some days...someday "you won't go to school" will be a reward not a threat :) But yeah, I totally know what you mean about consequences being a punishment for you sometimes too....we often wonder after setting consequences like "You'll have to stay home today, no visiting friends" Why on earth did we do that??? after being cooped up with him all day
:roll: :?
Off to get dinner for little Snotty McBoogers.
Hannah
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 20, 2005, 00:55:33 am
Welcome Lara, nice to have you join us. As you'll discover we can be a little crazy here sometimes, so much happens, but we're always here to listen to both raves and rants about anything!
Traci, great news on Cole sleeping. So have you figured out what you did differently that you can replicate? Was it his bed time? I have noticed since Daniel's been going down at 7pm (used to be 6.30pm) he does seem to sleep until about 6am. I think I hear him at 5.30am approx sometimes, but doesn't really start making noises until after 6am. I usually go to him at 6.30am. He slept a couple of mornings until 6.40am, but hasn't done this again though.
Judy and Nikki, I'm finding your toddler talks about discipline very interesting. Keep 'em coming! :D
Hannah, the hockey photo is great.
Cathy, I hope Carter's t@@th comes thru soon and the grizzles stop before Christmas.
Richelle, interesting finger food info. You're an inspiration to me. I'll have to try some more things.
Thanks for the cards, my DH usually clears the letter box and he keeps coming in saying "more cards from your friends..." as if to say "why don't I get any???" I secretly smile to myself! I've had one from, Kate, Traci, Karen, Micky and Lisa. I love the photos too.
Things are going well here. Had a 40 min nap thismorning, but hoping for a bigger one now to make up for it. Normally Daniel's asleep 1.5h for both naps. And his awake time is about 3 hours in the morning if we can keep him up that long (could explain the short nap thismorning), and 3.5 hours between the 2 naps. I found keeping him up for 3.5 hours has reduced his crawling around the cot. Basically I think he started moving cos he wasn't ready to sleep. Duh!!! Why else would you crawl around your cot? Ok, so don't answer that. But for my good napper and settler it seemed to help the problem of cot-olympics.
Ok, snooze time for me now, if I can. I do like an afternoon lie-down. :D
Post by: Jayri on December 20, 2005, 01:01:01 am
Michelle- so nice to see you, I love putting a face to a name, I guess the hot mamma trend continues.
Lara- Welcome aboard, it is so nice to have someone new, could we get a pic of you, we are so nosy and love to put a face to a name.
I started on the phones today, I booked my first flights....yipeee!!!!!
Kinda nerveracking, but everyone else seems to have faith in me....I made some screw ups, but none that my supervisors weren't aware of.
Riley did a little better tonight, I put her down 90% of the way and then she did the rest.
Well girls.....I must go and put the kids bags together for tomorrow.
Take Care everyone, I will check in before I go to work.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 20, 2005, 01:03:41 am
Quote from: sophieandhannah
Oh yeah...Nikki I had to laugh, being a teacher, who deals with kids who would rather NOt go to school some days...someday "you won't go to school" will be a reward not a threat :)
LOL, my thoughts exactly. For now he loves it and would go 5 days a week if he could (and I would like that some days too! :wink: ). Mind you I did stuff up one day months back and did the same threat and he took me up on it (where's the smack my head emoticon!) - so of course needed to follow through and keep a grumpy kid at home. :lol:
Bec, can't say I knew that bog meant poo, but bog can be a crude word for toilet here (I particularly think of long-drops as a bog). :lol:
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 20, 2005, 03:55:53 am
Today has been quite the day. So after listening to everyone's advice I decided this mornign that I just had to get out and start/finish my christmas shopping. After breakfast I decided to get T in the car and she would just take her am nap in the car, and then be home in time for pm nap. So 30 minutes in the car to the mall so not too bad. Then in the stroller and finally in the sling after lunch at the mall. Well she ended up falling asleep in the sling too, I guess after having such a short am nap. I have to say that it was so peaceful just holding on to her as we walked around the mall with her snoozing. I better not do that too often or else I will get addicted because it was just so nice to hold her KWIM?
So since the pm nap was obviously ruined I figured the heck with it and stayed out another 2 hours! :shock: I know, bad mommy! We then went to dinner at grandmas house and bathed/fed her there and then got her home by 7:30 pm...so will be interesting to see what happes tonight.
Anyhoo, nuff about me.
Great pics Michelle and Nancy! Today I received a card from Erin and OMG are Katie's eyes gorgeous!!!
Okay guys, I guess I missed something with the bog talk? Oh well. :?
Traci-congrats on Cole's great night!
Naomi-glad to hear from you and good to hear the job is going well.
alright girls, off to read some while DH is at work-need some "me" time!
Post by: mickymuscles on December 20, 2005, 04:14:05 am
well we had a busy day here! Jack got his casts off!! Yippy! But the poor little booger...anyone have a cast before?? Your joints hurt so much at first from not being used and I don't think Jack is any different. He had the biggest crocodile tears :( Then I can't imagine getting a pin unscrewed from your bone feels very good either plus he was way past his nap time which all equalled major screaming!! Not even my cuddles would settle him down. :cry: I finally just put him in his stroller so that I could speed walk back to the car and he was asleep before I even took 2 steps. His legs are so darn skinny!! Little chicken legs. I said to him "Oh, look you've got your fathers legs!" :D They are so weak right now and he doesn't like to weight bear on them...I'm sure once we get back from California they'll be feeling better then maybe we can get them back in shape with the jolly jumper. 8) It's also funny because he's a little tipsy now when he's sitting....he doesn't have the extra weight or bulk to hold him down. :) He seemed pretty happy to be able to be in the bath again too. He was pretty relaxed....and trying to drink the bath water again. :roll:
anyways, enough about us....i chat with you all tomorrow!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 20, 2005, 04:18:53 am
Nikki/Judy-I hope you don't mind. :oops:
I just know that personally I cannot grasp it all right now, but know that someday in the near future I will need to and will forget it all. I mainly like the fact that the discussion mentions the different parenting styles (love and logic and UP) so that when I am ready I can go out and buy the books/do the research and decide if that is the way to go. Also, both Nikki and Judy give a lot of examples. I think Judy talked about the fact that reading this type of stuff gets her brain thinking about what she would like to do as opposed to actually dictating what to do. I am exactly the same way! Many times I will read different suggestions, and think, "that will not work with Taylor, BUT, I think this will." KWIM? Food for thought I guess.
Okay enough rambling!
So hope you both don't mind and I will add to it when appropriate/necessary.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 20, 2005, 04:21:13 am
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 20, 2005, 04:45:23 am
Micky, that is great that Jack is out of the casts! Forgot to mention earlier, he looked so cool on his little car.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 20, 2005, 05:19:03 am
Welcome LARA!!
CATHY--so sorry for your rough day! I hoep things are better tonight.
MICKY--Yeah!! for the casts coming off! But how sad that you had to go through that!
MICHELLE--great pic! And thanks for calling me "hottie mama" I told DH and he said, "well, you are." So I got double the pleasure out of your compliment.
HANNAH--congrats on dropping the df...isn't it like a new-found freedom?
TRACI--Liv's bedtime usually only varies by about 15 min, sometimes 30. No more catnap for us. Naps are usually at 10:30 and 2:30, so that puts bedtime about right. However, when we did drop the catnap, we had a couple weeks of ROUGH times around dinner. It lasted for a couple weeks. We did a lot of early bedtimes on those nights. Then her naps seemed to get ironed out and now it's like clockwork.
Well, it's late and I'm beat...off to bed. Pleasant dreams all!
Post by: Judy on December 20, 2005, 05:20:52 am
It must be so different for him too - the sitting, he's learned his balance and worked his middle body muscles with the aid of the casts to help balance in their own way - so it makes sense that he was toppling a bit today - a bit of new learning there. I bet he is very busy physically and mentally in the next while thinking about and using his legs in ways he hasn't been able to do for quite some time now. :) Good for him!!!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 20, 2005, 05:34:02 am
Micky, you're a Super Mum! Well done for getting Jack thru his operation and casts. It must have been a big relief for you to know the worst is over. I'm sure the chicken legs will turn into turkey legs (bigger and fatter?) after a few jumps in the JJ :D
Naomi, well done for your first phones day. Always remember a mistake is only a mistake if you don't learn from it, it's a learning experience. :lol: Ok, so your bosses might not think that, but if you keep that in mind it might make it easier :wink:
I've got a great photo to post for you all and a funny story to tell. While we were cleaning out the garage today we needed to keep Daniel happy. We tried the portacot (pack n play) but no, he didn't like that, so tried just playing on the floor with toys. But no, that didn't work either. He's grown out of his box (more on that later) so ..... we brought out the laptop and played Baby Mozart in the garage so we could keep tidying and Daniel was happy! Worked a treat!
As for the box, he's outgrown the one that he sat on daddy's tool bench in so daddy found another one to play in. A bit bigger this time. Unfortunately he then had to use it to send something away in, so we don't have it anymore.
Gotta go, story and bedtime.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 20, 2005, 05:38:34 am
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 20, 2005, 07:50:53 am
Hayley... keeping him occupied I see... can he scale the walls to get out yet? :lol:
Micky... Yeah for Jackson! and great car! I am sure his little legs will be fine in no time with the California sun and everything.
Nancy... beautiful picture of Liv with Santa. Very nice pic of you and Liv, too.
Welcome, Lara.
Got cards from Naomi, Holly, Traci, Micky, Macaire and I love all the pictures! I also just realized that I did not put Arwyn's name on the pictures. Sorry guys.
Hannah... our school (& most of the district) have been trying to discipline using "Restitution". It isn't restitution as in restorative justice but based on First Nations' philosophy. The basis is that there are five basic needs... survival, love, fun, freedom & power. All behaviour is driven by these needs. So... a child has varying levels of each of the four needs, with the exception of the survival need which is the same in all people. All beliefs & values are honoured while trying to meet these needs. Each child is taught what the 4 needs are and what kind of balance they have. Then, each class comes up with some beliefs and values which eventualy become the school beliefs. The premise here, is that each child should be able to look at their own behaviour objectively, identify which need they are trying to meet, and then come up with alternative behaviour that would both meet their needs and honour the school beliefs. This is not to say there are no consequences, there are, but this gives the students more power over their own behaviour. Yes, sounds all airey, fairy... I thought so too, until I attended several workshops and conferences. It really works for me. I like it because it gives me a way to meet their needs and it encourages them to think about why they are behaving in a certain way. PM me if you want more information.
Nights are still terrible and there is no DF or middle of the night feedings even though our weekend has been terribly messed up. DH is now trying to settle Arwyn... for an hour now while I read and post. I really want to go feed her. I don't know what is wrong... I hate hearing her howl like this. I think I will... this is not usual behaviour.
Post by: Richelle on December 20, 2005, 12:57:23 pm
Hayley - great new avatar and new box picture, what a cutie pie!
MIchelle - great to 'see' you - hot stuff!
Andrea - I bet you were the only one feeling so nice and peaceful shopping with that bundle in your arms - it sounds pretty hairy out there by all accounts! I am heading out today but of course there are no malls just traffic!
Micky - That must have been so hard but I agree that he must have been tired more than in pain. It is going to be so fun to watch him slowly discover his legs!! Can't wait to see a picture!
Question: When you go grocery shopping where do you put your LO's? Do you put them sitting in the front seat of the cart? I would like to get more than a basketful today, as going at night after Sophie is in bed is craziness these days!
Also, news over here - Sophie claps when I say YEAHHHHH or when I clap and she plays Peek - a - Boo! She puts whatever she is holding up to her forhead and then brings it down really quickly and if you say BOO she laughs her butt off - soooo cute!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 20, 2005, 14:46:32 pm
Well, that was more than I intended to say (sorry so long!)...now of to make breakfast for my little girl.
Post by: Erin M on December 20, 2005, 15:27:38 pm
Andrea - thanks for the compliment on Katie's eyes. She really has her dad's eyes - when I met him in college, I kept thinking - this guy has the most gorgeous eyes - funny that I ended up marrying him and having a baby with the same eyes! When do they get too big for slings anyway? I've been regretting not having one forever, but I haven't gotten one b/c I just assume she's too big for it.
Ankie - ((hugs)) to you and Arwyn and DH. Hang in there - sounds yucky at your place. Can you work your way down to one night feeding and then cut it out from there? Best of luck with whatever you end up doing. Oh, and I found your school's discipline philosophy really interesting. I'll have to look up more on it - know any good websites?
Richelle - Katie goes in the from of the cart here too. I have one of these http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002CRS9M/qid=1135092097/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-5743145-2584006?v=glance&s=baby which covers the metal part of the cart and keeps her from chewing on the yucky handle and keeps her from bumping her head on the metal parts of the cart. It also goes over high chairs when we go out to eat. Works well! Oh, and Katie hides behind doors now and pops out and laughs - playing peek-a-boo her own way I guess. That and I'll throw a blanket over her head and she'll pull it off and laugh hysterically.
Hayley - love the box pic and the new avatar. Daniel has such a great smile.
Micky - Poor Jack - that would have made me so sad. Must be so interesting to watch him rediscovering his legs.
Have to run - today is the second in my line of Christmas parties. (I've got 3 - one for the school where I'm currently on maternity leave, one for one of my part time jobs, and one for the nature center I used to work at. )
Have a nice day all!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 20, 2005, 17:01:59 pm
My daughter is trying to kill us over here with her night sleeps. She was up at my last post, for an hour already. I walked in there and asked DH if I should just feed her. He says no, and keeps trying to put her down for another 45 minutes. He storms out of her room at 12:40. I tried for another 30 minutes and finally gave in to feed her. She chowed down like I had not fed her all day. :roll: So, the question is... was she hungry from the get go or was she hungry from crying for over 2 hours? D a m ned if I know. Anyhow, after feeding, she proceeded to be wide awake until 2:15, at which time I just say, f*ck the plan, we are sleeping together, feeding. Well, wouldn't you know it, she eats like crazy again. I sleep like that with her and she wakes many times but whatever. She really has a wake up at 5:45 and does this crazy sit, roll, and flop and falls asleep on the futon, sort of crossways. I leave her there and then in the morning, wake up to... THUNK, WAH... you got it, she crawled off the futon. :roll: So, for my optometrist's appointment this morning, I will probably be near blind.
Thanks for listening... really having a poopy time... we were doing so well and being so positive over here. Leave it to my little miss to be going through a growth spurt when we want to eliminate feedings. Also, she eats like a bird usually and yesterday, went through about a cup & a half of Cheerios in the afternoon. Yup, no proper solids but a tonne of Cheerios. :roll:
Post by: Colesmom on December 20, 2005, 17:26:50 pm
richelle and hayley-love the new avatars. hayley-daniels new box is equally hilarious to the first.
Richelle-very cool about your mom being on board with BW.
nancy-love the chrissie pic-lucky you she was smiling!
Ankie-my most biggest hugs to you. I can imagine how you would be at your wits end. *sigh*. I sure hope she gives you guys a break soon.
Kate-going back a bit...cole didn't eat well sunday evening and still went his first night without a feed..know i'm probably too late but wondering what you ended up doing?
andrea-glad you got out and thanks for the discussion. i was going to ask you to share as i haven't had time to read those lengthy discussions either.
michelle- a friend of mine had tubes put in her daughters ears and they worked very well. wishing you and molly well whatever you decide.
thanks everyone for missing me over the weekend. i should move the pc downstairs but it is nice actually having some space down there now.
cole was great last night from 7:45-1:00 am then was up quite often. i fed at 3:30 as it had been 8 hours...but that didn't help. gave gas drops and finally slept 5-6:30. today his BMs are sour smelling so either it's day 2 on intro of corn that is an issue or sour tummy due to 4th tooth making it's way through.
i am so pooped. did a bit of shopping yesterday but still so much to do *sigh*. have to go across the city tomorrow to the dentist, drop cole at SILs, visit dad (home today yay!), visit with good friend. Cole will have 2 naps in car and one in packnplay. hope he's feeling up to it.
okay, i gotta get some lunch. he's a fussy little guy today, i have plugged ducts due to reduced feedings and it's very painful to hold him :(
think i'll have to go to the mall just so he'll be in the stroller and not my arms.
Post by: Richelle on December 20, 2005, 22:16:43 pm
I gave Sophie one of her presents early and post4ed a pic below.
I am off to the grocery store to get 'baking stuff', ackkk wish me luck!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 20, 2005, 22:47:17 pm
LOL is that a potty Richelle?
Hannah
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 20, 2005, 22:51:03 pm
Are you going to start the naked training soon?? Yikes! Brave woman!
Your house looks like it's getting back to order??
Post by: becca24 on December 20, 2005, 22:58:09 pm
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. The Fiirst Nation's behaviour philosophies sound very interesting thanks for sharing, hopefully you will elaborate a bit more down the road.
I hope so too Ankie - sounds interesting. Hugs to you for your bad night. :cry: I hope it gets better soon. :)
Yeah, Where is everyone today?? Usually I have about 3 pages to read this time of the morning and today we are still on the same page?? Everyone must be busy with Chrissy stuff. We are going away for a week in early January, I don't know how I am going to handle not checking in for a whole week :shock: :shock:
As soon as Halle wakes from her nap we are off to the pool. It is supposed to get to about 35oC here today :shock: Not sure what that is in oF but let me tell you it's friggin' Hot!!!!!!!!!! My friend had two boys, one is 3 the other is two weeks older than Halle. She is going stir crazy at home and has had a huge fight with her DH which she wants to tell me all about. So we are going to the pool to relax ( :? ) and break the "Groundhog Day" feeling.
Hopefully I will have more to read tonight :wink:
Oh before I go here is a pic I got yesterday of my 'other' child. His name is Nirinjan and he lives in Bangladesh. I have sponsered him for the last 4 years...............
Post by: Richelle on December 20, 2005, 22:58:36 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 20, 2005, 23:23:11 pm
Ankie good luck with Arwyn sounds yucky. Thanks for the basic explanation of your school/class disc. I would love to hear more it sounds really interesting. DO you think it would be something just a lone teacher could do or does it really need the support of the school?
back in minute sister called.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 21, 2005, 00:00:05 am
Ankie! :shock: ((((((((HUGS))))))))) I hope arwyn give you a break soon!!!!
Traci: I hope cole's tummy feels better soon and doesn't make him wake more at night.
I got so many x-mas cards in the last couple of days!! I just love opening my mailbox!! My dad's wife even commented "You didn't get all those x-mas cards this year, did you?" :D
We are hectic here today! I had to get MIL to come and babysit Jack again today. She has been a godsend!! I used to cringe thinking of her coming over to help me but she has learned how to put Jack down for naps and she even feeds him the things that i want him to eat AND she vacuumed for me! :D That makes me super happy! I had to drop the pets off to be boarded over x-mas, I had to go sign some papers for our new house, I had to go to the grocery store to get a holiday feeder for our fish and to pick up the next size of diapers(Jack has been leaking over night for the last 3 nights so I figured I bet try the next size), we had his 9month check up at the ped today and then I'm waiting to have to go back and sign some more papers for our house. I'm also trying to pack and do laundry! :roll: I'll be glad when we are finally on the plane!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 21, 2005, 00:04:40 am
Danielle's not doing any moving, no inclination to crawl or pull her body along the floor, will lie on her tummy or sit on her bum - I actually asked my doctor to have a look at her yesterday when I saw her about Nathan. She can bear a LITTLE weight on her legs, and the doc gives her another 3mths before starting to worry. Anyway, she can: wave and say hi and bye, dada, sign for food, play with her toy where she "posts" balls down different slots, play peek-a-boo - so she's just so different to the little action man that Nathan was.
Bec, thanks for sharing the pic of Nirinjan.
OK, my little miss isn't settling for her nap, she's been fighting them lately, so that's a drag and we're back to night wakings. Grrrrr, wish I could figure her out!
Post by: kq on December 21, 2005, 01:10:06 am
Nikki, sounds like Danielle's fine motor and verbal skills are way ahead. I would not worry about her not wanting to move. Unlike her, Sam is into everything (very much like Nathan, I think) but does not have the patience to sit still and stack blocks or anything like that. As far as signing, no progress on that front.
Micky, your little man constantly amazes me with his resilience. Keep us posted on how he gets on with "discovering" his legs again.
Hayley, LOL on the new box!
Love all the new pics! Naomi, have yet to see a recent pic of your two.
Took Sam to the mall to see Santa yesterday and I thought he would cry as he has been stranger anxious recently. He pulled Santa's beard then proceeded to bounce on Santa's knee. :shock: :D I was sooo surprised! Here is a pic.
Post by: Colesmom on December 21, 2005, 01:14:49 am
Nikki-that's so great about all the "other" things D can do! Cole can't do any of those. Well, he says mama and dada but not sure yet he knows it's meant for us. I'm sure she'll be moving in her own time.
richelle-you asked about the shopping. DH does groceries, I hate them and he loves them so it works out well. If I go to a store that requires a cart I've either put Cole into the infant seat on top (still under the limit) or I carry him in my sling facing forward and he steers :D
okay girls. I had a tough day. i hate to come on here and complain because smuggies wasn't even all that fussy. my boobs just hurt and i feel achy. i am so hoping i'm not developing mastitis or flu or something. baby einstein santa took good care of cole today :oops: thankfully after 2 40 min. naps he had a 1:15 catnap. i lay down, didn't sleep but at least i was resting. It was just one of those days when everything seems to be piling up and I wonder "am I cut out for this?"
The house is still a mess from the party, I still have shopping to do, going out all day tomorrow and supposed to go to company dinner on thursday. *sigh* i just want to crawl into bed for days.
on a positive note, dad came home today in time for christmas.
AND I called work today and I got a bonus...prorated obviously for the 3 months i was there but it was still pretty good. First year I've been eligible since I'm a supervisor.
Post by: kq on December 21, 2005, 01:16:01 am
Post by: Erin M on December 21, 2005, 01:56:57 am
Nikki - I am amazed at all the Danielle can do! Sounds like she's way more of an intellectual than a mover. Bet she'll be a smarty!
Bec - 35oC = 95oF - so that's REALLY hot....I have always loved hot weather but I did find it much harder on Katie than I had expected. Nice pic of Nirinjan - 4 years is a long time - do you think you'll ever get to see him in person?
Traci - take care of yourself! What if you pump before bedtime just to relieve the pressure a bit? There's got a be a good amount of time between his last feed and when you go to bed? Unless you're dream feeding - I can't remember sorry. Hope you feel better though! Great for the bonus too! And great that your dad is home too!
Ankie - there aren't enough (((hugs))) for you and Arwyn. It really does sound like a growth spurt. I wish I had some magic advice for you that would fix everything!
Richelle - let us know about the potty training - you might give me some inspiration! Anything has to be easier than the wrestling match that diapers have become!
OK ladies today, Katie was sitting with me when I was on the computer checking the site and I'm telling her - "Look Katie, your friend Daniel got a new box, and your friend Jack got his casts off" - LOL, it makes me laugh that I've given Katie all these new friends.
I think I had some sort of question for all of you, but it's slipped my mind. I really need to wrap some presents though. :D
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 21, 2005, 03:29:03 am
Bec - thanks for the pic of your sponsor/foster child. What a nice thoughtful thing to do. You have a great big wonderful heart! BTW, 35 is way too hot!! Yikes. Hanging in the pool would be the only way I'd survive. Plus I'm a redhead so the sun is killer on my fair skin.
Traci - wonderful news that Dad is home for Christmas, what a great present for you all. Sorry to hear you are feeling under the weather, remember to try and make time for yourself!
Hayley - so typical of little ones isn't it?? They have hundreds of dollars worth of toys and the funnest one is the box it came in. Daniel looks pleased as punch sitting in there! :lol:
Richelle - good luck with the training. I guess if her BM's are fairly consistent you might as well start as early as possible! Molly has had diarrhea lately with the antibiotics so she goes about 4 X a day. No rhyme or reason to when, it just explodes!! Sorry, TMI. :oops: LOL
Karen - what an adorable picture!! Got your christmas card today and love the pic you sent as well (same as the avatar). Sam's going to be a heartbreaker!
Anyways, hugs to all. Ankie - you are Arwyn get extra special big hugs to get you through the nights and hopefully things turn around for you soon!!
Post by: B&BMommy on December 21, 2005, 03:43:50 am
As you know before I went MIA, we were having some rough nites and noooo sleep at all, so Brady and I went for a visit to my parents and got some much needed rest....we were only to be gone for a day or so, but we got a huge snow storm and they always get way more snow then we do, and well, got snowed in :roll: then when we did get back, had a party to go to, shopping to get done, birthdays to attend, entertaining happening, and its just been sooo crazy, I haven't had time to breathe.....
buy have been thinking of all of you lots....got all my Christmas cards done so you should all be receiving them soon, I was late getting them out with everything going on, I truly sorry. :oops: I've been receiving lots as well, love the pictures you are all sending, thanks so much. What cuties we all have :D
To all of you who have been posting pics - I've been scanning and seen lots of pics, what great stuff, love them! Anywat, all is well here, getting a bit more sleep, and actually have to head to bed now, not sure what our night will bring, we had a birthday lunch today, and a birthday supper tonight we went out to...and Brady's a bit off....catch up with all of you soon.
Hugs
Holly
Post by: B&BMommy on December 21, 2005, 03:51:46 am
Subject: Thank You!
I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW
ALL SAVED IN MY EMAIL BOOK
AND EVERY YEAR WHEN CHRISTMAS COMES
I STOP AND TAKE A LOOK
THAT'S WHEN I STOP AND REALIZE
THESE NAMES ARE A SPECIAL PART
NOT OF THE BOOK THEY'RE WRITTEN IN
BUT OF MY VERY HEART
EACH NAME STANDS FOR SOMEONE
WHO HAS CROSSED MY PATH SOMETIME
AND IN THAT MEETING THEY'VE BECOME
THE RHYTHM IN EACH RHYME
AND WHILE IT SOUNDS FANTASTIC
FOR ME TO MAKE THIS CLAIM
I TRULY FEEL THAT I'M COMPOSED
OF EACH REMEMBERED NAME
AND WHILE YOU MAY NOT BEAWARE
OF ANY SPECIAL LINK
JUST MEETING YOU HAS CHANGED MY LIFE
A LOT MORE THAN YOU THINK
YOU SEE THAT ONCE I MEET SOMEBODY
THE YEARS CAN NOT ERASE
THE MEMORY OF A PLEASANT WORD
AND OF A FRIENDLY FACE
SO NEVER THINK MY CHRISTMAS WISH
IS JUST A MERE ROUTINE
OF NAMES UPON A CHRISTMAS LIST
FORGOTTEN IN BETWEEN
FOR WHEN I SEND A CHRISTMAS WISH
THAT'S JUST ADDRESSED TO YOU
IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE LIST OF FOLKS
THAT I'M INDEBTED TO
FOR I AM BUT THE TOTAL
OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE MET
AND YOU ARE SURELY ONE OF THOSE
THAT I WILL NEVER FORGET
AND WHETHER I HAVE KNOWN YOU
FOR MANY YEARS OR FEW
IN LITTLE WAYS YOU'VE INFLUENCED ME
IN ALL I SAY AND DO
AND EVERY YEAR WHEN CHRISTMAS COMES
I REALIZE THIS IS TRUE
THE BEST GIFT LIFE HAS OFFERED ME
IS MEETING FRIENDS LIKE YOU !!!
THANKS FOR BEING *YOU*
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE & HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!!
Holly, Shawn and Brady xoxo
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 21, 2005, 04:12:45 am
Traci... Hooray for your father coming home for Christmas! I hope you are feeling better and that your clogged ducts get better. Hot compresses and massage (hurts like all heck) worked really well for me. And yeah for the bonus!! Sure is nice, isn't it?
Nikki... Danielle is doing all that stuff? Wow! Her brain is sure busy!!! What a smart little girl! I wouldn't worry about the standing and moving bit, all children are different and if the ped isn't worried, then don't. Does she have an exersaucer that she can sit in and bounce? That may be a fun way to encourage her to move. I have two friends whose little ones are only sitting and laying as well and they are 8.5 months.
Richelle... nice present, mom... along the lines of a vacuum cleaner for your birthday :wink: . Hope Sophie gets lots of use from it!!! Good luck!
Michelle... have a lovely Christmas dinner. Amazing how much you can rack up for one day of groceries, isn't it?
Hi Bec, Erin & Hannah!
Micky... good luck with everything before you leave on your trip. Did you say new house? Did I miss something here? Were you the one building somewhere? I think that was a few billion pages back and my memory is seriously compromised by the lack of sleep!
Karen... super cute picture of Sam on Santa's lap. What a happy baby? And you were saying he would scream the mall down? I have been feeding Arwyn congee. We went out to a restaurant and I made sure they did not use any MSG or anything and ordered her a bowl. She is not overly fond of it (like mommy is) but she'll take it.
I am thinking of starting Arwyn on meats in the next couple of weeks. I have already used canned chicken broth for her pasta noodles in the last week... she seems to like it. I have just made a huge pot of chicken broth and am going to freeze it in cubes to use for her food.
Thanks for the hugs and support. I just can't figure her out. I don't want to make things worse, don't want to create bad habits, hate listening to her cry, am second guessing myself, etc. The miserable nights are just starting to catch up on me, I guess. I would love to just not think so much.
I was out for a family dinner on Sunday and Arwyn was a MESS, because she has a 6 pm bedtime and dinner didn't start until 6:30. We tried everything to get her to catnap but nope, so, there we were. My cousin has a DS one month older than her... he was sitting there in his highchair, looking stoned because he was so tired and my cousin comments that he is so tired because he doesn't nap all day (he only got 30 minutes that day) and yet, he sleeps through the night, all on his own. :shock: WTF? How freakin' $h!tty is that? I have a beautiful routine that traps me in my own house, creates great mental anguish when I have to deviate from it and Arwyn wakes up multiple times in the night. My cousin on the other hand, has no routine, schleps her child everywhere and keeps him up all hours of the night and her DS sleeps through the friggin' night?
Who was it that was commenting on the cyber swearing? I am catching up! :D :lol:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 21, 2005, 04:16:15 am
I am so glad you got some much needed rest. I do know what that is all about so, smiles to you for catching up on some sleep.
I love the poem. Thanks so much. It is really appropriate and I am touched that you posted it here to share with us.
Have a great Christmas to you too. BTW, nice picture of Brady in the new avatar!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 21, 2005, 04:28:09 am
Gotta run to Target right now so can't catch up with everyone, but did want to say big HUGS to Ankie because i know you are doing such an awesome job and not really feeling the love back as far as sleep goes. And about your cousin and her lo that "sleeps through the night", I have a couple of things to say about that.
1. she may be lying
2. he may sleep through the night with the help of her and she is just not saying so (I have a friend that claims her dd sleeps through the night but she co-sleeps and feeds her through the night :shock: :? WTF? don't know where she is getting her definition of sleepign through the night!)
3. she may be blessed with the ultimate angel baby who really does sleep through the night, but next time around she will not be so lucky and pay dearly for not having a routine, and you on the other hand will be blessed with the same type of angel baby next time around! and by angel I mean in the sleep department, because we all know Arwyn is an angel in every other way!!!
So hope that makes you feel a little better and doesn't offend you since afterall she is your cousin :?
HUGS Ankie and I am praying things get better for you!
p.s. I soooooo know what you mean though about the routine making you housebound and causing you anguish when breaking it...so there with you!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 21, 2005, 04:33:35 am
Thanks for the reassurance everyone, I know they are all different, and she definitely is developing these skills sooner than what Nathan was - but I guess if you're gonna sit on ya butt all day, ya gotta do something huh? :lol:
Karen, would you mind PMing the rice porridge recipe to me? I'm still doing rice cereal, but want a gluten free cereal alternative and that sounds good, I used to give Nathan regular oatmeal at this age, but of course that's a no-go (although I think I'm meant to be giving her gluten, hmm, maybe regular porridge would be a good way to do it so Nathan doesn't feel deprived as if he were to see her eating a slice of regular bread or something...). Anyway, that recipe would be good. I've heard of congee off another website I visit and apparently it's the only solids given to babies and then the veges and fruit are gradually added to it.
Ankie, I haven't done meat yet either (except she gets a small amount of chicken maybe 3-4 times a week). How do you plan on giving it? I don't do the store bought cans, so I'll be making it myself.
Bec, those temps sound awful - we've been getting mid-20's and I have to say it's just perfect for me.
Right, that's all I can remember sorry and I can't view back anymore.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 21, 2005, 05:20:13 am
Post by: FrasersMum on December 21, 2005, 05:24:49 am
Hi to everyone!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 21, 2005, 07:56:06 am
Nikki... Danielle is super cute & super smart! Multi-tasking already? She'll make a great business woman one day!
About the meat... I plan on steaming chicken breast, plain to begin with. I have tonnes of puree veggies left so, I am planning to chop up the chicken in the chopper so that there is some texture left and then add the veggies. I sure hope Arwyn likes it as we are struggling to work through the mountain of food I have made. Eats so poorly, that one! According to my friend, there is "clean meat" vs. ??? (I can only remember the clean meat part) and those are the non-processed kind... straight from the animal I guess. So, no hotdogs, sausages, etc. I think. I think I will do chicken, pork and then beef. I had wanted to start with turkey as I will have lots left over but ???
Congee is rice porridge... my mom says that that is all I ate when I was an infant before progressing to mushy rice. She thinks it is ridiculous that I am starting so very late for Arwyn. She just brought me all the stuff she used to make my baby rice. I don't have one of those fancy rice cookers that make congee so I have to use a pot. I am still working on getting it right... I currently end up with mushy rice each time. Karen, on second thought, please PM me the recipe too!
Good night all... my DH has been very proactive tonight. He has been checking on Arwyn all night and moving her back to the middle of the crib before she bonks her head and wakes herself up so... no DF again. I did make her eat tonnes at dinner tonight and my fingers, toes, and all other appendages are crossed for a good night. On that note, good night... it is midnight over here.
Post by: BiancaB on December 21, 2005, 10:50:48 am
Nikki-How cute is Danielle! Sienna is on the move at last, but she still ain't that good at sitting...she topples sideways!!
Any ideas girls.?? Sienna is refusing to Bfeed....ie
Bf at 7am and then won't take another feed until 12 than maybe 4 or 5..Today she has only taken one side at both feeds, so I am feeling it OOWWWW..
NOT self weaning I hope!!!
May have to post this on BF boards sorry..
Hoping it is her teeth.
By the way anyone else been bitten>??Thats her other trick..Now I've heard girls are more prone to biting than boys, could it be true??
Take care everyone :wink:
Post by: Judy on December 21, 2005, 12:09:28 pm
Nikki Danielle really does sit up good and solid. K&H both topple within a few minutes. Hannah does the combat crawl but Kaia can't be bothered. My girlfriend has two little ones and niether attempted to ever crawl - just went straight to walking around holding her hands when they were ready. Her youngest is 10.5months and her oldest 3 and she's as smart as a whip (if we were judging and labelling kids that is ;)). I think it's quite brilliant really, not to crawl. I think she sees that there are better ways to get around than lying your face on the floor where everyone puts their bums and feet :). And here on this side of the ocean crawling is no longer considered a developmental milestone anyway. I personally, didn't walk till I was 18months old. Barely moved. I was tooooo fat!! Now I'm tall and thin and walk really really well :) My grandfather asked my mom if I was retarded! :shock: but as far as I can tell I'm not :P
Ankie, gosh girl I've been thinking about you lots. Hope things smooth out over there. Being tired is just about the worst I think!!!! IT SUCKS!!
Karen - got your ecard :) thanks. How funny - you and Ankie picked the same singing guys - Zoe is THRILLED!!! :)
I posted a pic in the Photo Gallery of the girls for anyone interested... it's the same as my new avatar but well bigger :)
Post by: Richelle on December 21, 2005, 12:56:16 pm
Judy - Your girls are beautiful!! ROTFLMAO, at you as a big fat baby and your grandpa's comment!!
Holly - welcome back thanks for the poem!
Traci - how was your night?
Nikki - Sounds like you have a philosopher on your hands! My mom told me that I could talk in sentences before I could walk, we used to have conversations about it :shock: !
Also Sophie is the spitting image of me as a baby 8) and I got this pic when I went in to wake her from her nap yesterday. There are a tonne of pictures of me as a baby, sleeping like this, I guess it isn't just our faces that look alike!
Post by: Erin M on December 21, 2005, 15:09:51 pm
Richelle - that's a great picture. I love how her little bum is sticking up in the air.
Ankie - fingers crossed for you - hope all went well.
Traci - how are you feeling?
Bianca - I've gotten bitten too, especially when teeth are coming in. With her nursing less and biting, do you think she's getting some teeth?
Holly - good to see you - and thanks for the lovely poem!
That's about it - I'm off to finish my Christmas shopping as I just found out that a bunch of stuff I ordered online isn't going to make it by Christmas after all (despite them saying it would initially) grrr....stupid online ordering.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 21, 2005, 15:33:46 pm
Sorry, I didn't have time to really read (just skimmed) but HUGS to everyone having sleep (or other) issues. And high-fives to those having a great time! I hope everyone is managing to get things done for Christmas.We had a crazy day yesterday, finishing errands and Liv decided to be VERY clingy. So I didn't get much done once we did get home. I can't decide if she's starting to get sick, or is just thrown off by all of our craziness (seems we've been on the go since Sat). I tried to spend an extra few minutes playing with her in her room this morning, and she seems to be doing better. So, hopefully she just needed a little extra "mommy time."
Didn't get a lot of sleep last night...I was up late finishing Christmas stuff, then Liv decided to wake up early. I'm not sure why. She had soaked through her PJs...maybe that was it. Changed her, fed her, and back to bed for another 1.5 hr. But it still didn't seem like enough. And we have more running to do today! DH and I are doing our Christmas tonight, PLUS I have to clean the house, pack, and still buy a couple presents before we leave on FRIDAY MORNING!!! Aaauuuugghhh!!! Better get started!
Have a great day, girls! I'll try to check in later.
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 21, 2005, 15:49:34 pm
Holly - nice to "see" you back and that poem was wonderful. Thank you for thinking of sharing it with us!
Judy - you are too funny!! Too fat to crawl eh?? LMAO!! And Grandpa?? Oh my gosh, that would have had me splitting a gut!! Molly is only sitting as well, no crawling either. She doesn't like to have her face where the feet and butts are either I guess!! LOL
Nikki - Molly and Danielle sound about the same. Yup, both are intellectuals!! Heeheehee. She waves, says "DaDa" and "MaMa", plays peek-a-boo, says "Shhhhhhhh" and also loves to stack her little blocks. My son was exactly the same way though. Didn't crawl until 10 months and then rarely did, only when he absolutely had to. Then walked out of the blue on his 1st birthday. They seem to be "old souls". Have to watch and investigate everything very thoroughly before jumping in I suppose.
Richelle - LOVE that picture. Such a cute squishy bum poking out. :lol:
Well, we are off to brave that huge mall again. Forgot one present for my Mom. If we get there when it just opens it isn't too bad. Hope everyone has a great day/night. It's the shortest day of the year here today...the day where we get the least amount of hours of daylight. :shock: After today though, the days start getting longer!! Does that mean summer is right around the corner???? :wink:
Post by: Judy on December 21, 2005, 16:08:17 pm
Oh man that is too cute!
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 21, 2005, 16:59:51 pm
I went to the ped yesterday for 9 mon check -up. Carter weighs in at a whopping 18.5 lbs and 30 inches long. I thought for sure he would have been bigger than that. That's kinda small compared to all these other Mar/Apr babies!! I asked teh Dr about all this fussiness and he didn't believe me. Carter always "hams" it up for the ped because he loves going to the Dr.
Also, he seems to be developing major behavious issues. Isn't he too young for that??? He lunges and tries to bite our faces. Also, lately he wants to poke our eyes, ears, nose, mouth and if we say "no thank you Carter, Mommy doesn't like that" he goes nuts and tries even hardder to do it. If we redirect his hand away he gets more determined. I am hoping that it is just his teeth causing all this weird/crazy behaviour because I miss my little snugglebutt!!!
I only had a chance to skim the last few pages because all I hear all day is whahhhh whahhh whahhhh and my brain is fried but here goes:
Micky : Yeah for the casts coming off! What a trooper!
Hayley: Love the new box!
Richelle: Carter sits in the front of the shopping cart and loves it. I just have to make sure he doesn't pull things off the shelves.
Nikki: Carter doesn't move much either. No crawling here. He will push himself backwards on his belly but that is about it. He just learned how to go from sitting to belly and he still bangs his head on teh ground most of teh time when he does it.
Ankie: Hugs to you! You are definitely tough for dealing with this for so long. I am a wreck after 3 days!
Karen: Love the pic of Sam and Santa
Erin: I too am having problems with online Xmas gifts. I have abunch that aren't going to make it on time!! I got your card btw ... love the pic! Katie's eyes are so blue!!
Ok, that's it .. I am done. Going to try and put fussy pants down for a nap. Totally off schedule right now. We have to leave for Toronto tomorrow for Xmas holidays whcih should be fun with a cranky, fussy baby!!
Post by: Judy on December 21, 2005, 17:11:56 pm
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Also, he seems to be developing major behavious issues. Isn't he too young for that??? He lunges and tries to bite our faces. Also, lately he wants to poke our eyes, ears, nose, mouth and if we say "no thank you Carter, Mommy doesn't like that" he goes nuts and tries even hardder to do it. If we redirect his hand away he gets more determined. I am hoping that it is just his teeth causing all this weird/crazy behaviour because I miss my little snugglebutt!!!
Cathy, as hard as it is at times, keep in mind that YOU know that biting and poking hurts. Carter doesn't get that. He's just gaining more control of his hands (and mouth ;)) and putting them to use. AND he'll take your reaction and read it totally differently that you intend perhaps and that will motivate him even more. Seems they love to see that they can create reactions in their world. And so they should... it's just that we expect them to understand when we are upset/hurt and not do that thing anymore and this isn't usually the reaction it gets from them. Heck Zoe at 3 1/2 is just starting to care how her actions affect others and sometimes she's thrilled to bother people (moreso if I'm around... when her and Sarah went to my girlfriend's when I was at work she was always concerned that her sister be happy and healthy and not hurt.. but when I'm around I swear her mission is the opposite. :roll:)
I wouldn't be surprised if it IS teeth. AND can I just say I find the phases of the moon really does have a big affect in this house.... for about4 days or so around a full moon the girls are wild and very irritable. I've read up on it and seems the full moon does affect body fluid levels and such so there's possibly something to it...
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 21, 2005, 17:30:06 pm
OK, you know your addicted to the bw site when you think "If only my family/friends/husband/child would leave me alone for a cotton pickin' minute then I could really focus on what's happening with the March/April thread!!!"
So, my sister called yesterday while i was posting and that just set the whole evening in motion....with no time for me to get back on.
Gorgeous pics Karen, Nikki, Bec and Hayley. The box is precious. Danielle's hair is precious!! And Sam's smile..yummy! Bec, do you crresspond with Nirinjan?
Micky hope you are getting all geared up. Good for you for taking advatage of MIL's help. I totally KWYM I used to cringe about MIL taking Sophie and now I am sooo thankful to have her she is absolutely a lofe saver.
Cathy, I know this is probably kind of annoying to hear but it really could be his teeth. I have heard the top two can be especially difficult and painful. Hugs to you. Hope your day today and night tonight go better!
Bec the heat!! Crikey! When we were in chicago this Junly it was even hotter than that and it was really hard on Sophie....although that was pre-bw and I suspect she was chronically overtired too...but still I hear you about the heat. Good idea to hang out in the pool.
Traci, yeah for your dad being home for Christmas. and congrats on the bonus. We had a double BE day yesterday too....hmmm....that Julie Aigner-Clark sure does take good care of Sophie on her cranky days :)
Erin-lol about showing Katie her "friends". Sophie found my basket of cards today under the tree so I showed them all to her..."and this is Ryan...isn't he cute?...He's your friend in.... And this is katie...look at those eyes..." You get the picture. She loved it.
Richelle. Good for you for the potty. I would be doing the same if I was at home, although Sophie is not a predictable pooper. LOL Ankie at it being like getting a vac for your birthday!!! SOoo true! And the picture! What a cute little tiny girlfriend bum.
Judy...lol about their being better ways to get around that dragging yourself across the floor where people's bums and feet go...eeewwww. And you retarded? People are too funny.
OK, as for me, I am NOT going to get cards out in time, obviously. I feel horrible because I have so enjoyed all of the cards. I have been trying to get a picture of our family which is hard because brendan is only with us on occassion etc etc...In retrospect i should have just gone with one already had but I wanted it to be "Christmasy" Sooooo anyhow, I am still planning on sending them, but they will be Happy New Year cards instead. I hope that's OK. I probably should have opted out because of going back to work etc...but I am glad I didn't becasue I love all of the cards and pics.
I am off today to make cookies over at Amy's. Sophie will come with me and nap there. Gingerbread yum.
Finished shopping yesterday yeah!
Another call...pesky friends...I'll check in later.
Hannah
:roll:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 21, 2005, 17:41:56 pm
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AND can I just say I find the phases of the moon really does have a big affect in this house.... for about4 days or so around a full moon the girls are wild and very irritable. I've read up on it and seems the full moon does affect body fluid levels and such so there's possibly something to it...
True... no more obvious than in a school! Around full moon, those little ones just go nuts and all weird.
Cathy... Arwyn is doing that too. She doesn't do it hard but she loves to poke in my mouth and tries to go up my nose (gross) and everything. I usually nibble on her finger if she is being gentle. If not, I do the same as you, and tell her it hursts, etc. She also bites anything she can access when the mood strikes her. Yesterday, she bit my cheek, shoulder, the ball of my foot, DH's leg and arm. She would have bitten more but we noticed before the chomp. :wink:
Richelle... too cute! I love the bum in the air!
Judy... what a comment from your grandpa! And hee, hee on being too fat to move when you were little... my sister had the same problem. :lol:
Molly & Nancy... good luck with the shopping! Some of our online gifts didn't make it either and I am not holding my breath.
Bianca... Arwyn is not super thrilled with her 11 & 3 BF either. I have tried moving it back and it helps but she still doesn't take very much. I noticed that supply is down due to that. Biting... yup... I feel the pain across the ocean. Arwyn did that for a long while, after she got her first two teeth. I was quite adamant about her not doing it and stuck my finger in her mouth the second I felt the bite. It made her cry but did not deter her from BFing within seconds of it so... I did it for about 3 days and the biting stopped shortly after that.
Night was better. Whew... no night feeding. She woke at 12:38 and I put her back down by 12:49. Stayed in the room until 1:00 and she was good until 4 am when DH went in to re-settle her after she got stuck. So, feeling a renewed positive attitude here that we can lick this night waking thing without feeding.
Here is my question... we know that Arwyn is sleep-crawling and waking herself up. What can we do? Last night, DH took the pro-active approach and kept going in every 1.5 hours to pull her back down to the base of her crib to give her crawling room. So... if we keep doing this, she will probably never learn not to crawl in her crib during the night. On the other hand, it prevented her from waking up about 4 times last night. Our gut tells us there is nothing we can do about this sleep-crawling thing. The book BWSAYP just indicates random wakings are developmental and doesn't say anything more about it. What do you girls think?
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 21, 2005, 17:50:05 pm
Hannah... no problem on the card. Just makes me happy knowing there will be more mail for me later on!!
Andrea... did you make that picture yourself? I love it. I wanted to do that for our cards but nobody offered a design like that. So... knowing you, you probably did it yourself!!
BTW, Micky... I love the handmade card. Gorgeous.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 21, 2005, 17:53:11 pm
Yeah for the better night! I think go with your gut. I don't think there is anything you can do about the night crawling except wait it out. It won't last long.
We keep waiting for the (what I think of a the "Cole problem" :) ) night standings...holding on the the side of the crib not sure how to get back down.
That will be fun too eh?
Anyhow, just my opinion.
Have a great day.
Hannah
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 21, 2005, 18:14:38 pm
Judy, LMAO at being too fat to crawl. I know I need to just not worry with D not moving, she has a lot of strength in her back and will honestly sit like that for an hour if I let her! :shock: It also doesn't help that all the enticing toys get taken away from her or actually offered to her so there's no motivation to move!
Cathy, D will also occasionally lean so far forward that she ends up on her belly but face plants at the same time. LOL
Karen, thanks for the PM with rice porridge recipe, might do some up today.
Ankie, I think our night waking problem is D sticking her legs out through the bars of the cot, since she's been sleeping on her tummy in the last week she moves around the cot and gets stuck. But when I try to resettle her she gets grumpy about it and takes ages to resettle. Although last night I only tried for 20mins the gave up and fed her. I suspect though if I remained with her the entire time and after she's asleep she might be better at settling.
Who was talking about the moon? I'm affected by the moon, I actually get kind of witty and crazy! LMAO :lol: Well I think I'm occasionally witty. :wink: 8)
Richelle, love the butt pic!
Post by: Richelle on December 21, 2005, 19:21:30 pm
Sorry for yelling :oops: but my SIL got soooooooo sick from mastitis and that is why when I felt like you do Traci I went directly to the doctor and got on antibiotics, knocked it right out of there! So, I hope you feel better and even if you don't feel super bad it still is better to be safe than sorry!
Please let us know how you are feeling.....
I know exactly what you mean about the moon Judy and Ankie and I cannot imagine dealing with multiple children for extended periods of time during the loony lunar cycle!
Cathy - Sophie has been grabbing our faces/eyelids/ears/lips/noses for awhile now. DH and I both have battle wounds (multiple scratches on our face), I just ignore her which is soooo hard as it takes me by surprise sometimes, especially when she needs her nails cut. I just make sure to let anyone know that gets near her to watch out for the claws!
Ankie - That is great news about your night, WOOHOO!! I say that it is developmental and she will stop crawling when the 'novelty' wears off.
Bec - I meant to say earlier that is so great that you sponsor a child, makes me think I really should. Namely as it is Christmas and whenevr I hear that 'there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas...' song I tear up and get all disallusioned as to what all the presents and over excess is really about...
Must keep decorating cookies and get started on the Nanaimo Bars (yummy eh? Canadians!!)
Post by: Judy on December 21, 2005, 20:26:29 pm
Ankie she should eventually get used to banging around in her crib and be able to move out of the corners. Zoe and Sarah used to just bash their little heads off the side. Heck they still do this with their headboards! :shock: Hannah's funny in that if she rolls onto her back at night she will cry out sometimes for me to roll her back. She rolls all the time on the floor and I've seen her do it in her crib/sleep - but sometimes she expects me to help out.
Gotta scoot, I hear loud sucking noises coming from the couch -which means Sarah is falling asleep (couldn't be Zoe - she's ALREADY asleep!!)
Oh here's our family pic...
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 21, 2005, 20:46:16 pm
OK, vent ahead, hope you girls don't mind, I don't really want to post it in the main forums. It's about my mum & stepdad and discipline. Grrrr, it's been building and I can see it's going to blow! My mum's pretty laid back and actually hates being controlled by SD as well, and I think I kind of resent her for not stepping in more when we were kids to protect us (we weren't smacked or anything, although I guess the odd being dragged by my hair or kicked up the butt DO count - but oh well, it definitely wasn't a standard response, it was the controlling etc).
Anyway, SD "popped in" the other day and Nathan woke from his nap and he can tend to be a bit grumpy/clingy - of course this is around 3pm when D wakes from her nap so I'm a bit short on hands/knees etc. Anyway, SD took it on himself to sort Nathan out by saying "Grampy's giving you a choice (see the L&L coming out here :roll: ) - you either sit on my knee or you go to your room, anyway Nathan screams - why would he want to do either of those things :roll: , SD marches him off to his room and I'm thinking SH!T what do I do to cool this down - anyway it worked out well, SD didn't leave him in there, he sat down, distracted him and they read stories happily. Phew! But of course the message to me is that he felt HE needed to deal with the situation becausee I was sitting on my butt not sorting it out. Meanwhile I'd been explaining to SD that if Nathan wants a cuddle, well yes, there is a need (SD had just been lecturing me that there is a difference between wants and needs blah blah).
Needless to say I felt crappy that that had all happened I knew he'd go home and tell my mum, anyway, here's the crunch - I went out shopping last night and my mum phoned and DH spoke to her, she started on at him about how I need to get Nathan sorted out since he's being very attention seeking lately and it needs to be stopped (well yeah, he's got a baby sister he's competing with and actually needs love, not shut in his room surely???!!!). The attention thing to me is more the result and I need to figure out the trigger and work backwards on a solution, ie give more attention elsewhere, NOT denying it while he's needing it.
I didn't know she'd been bleating on at DH until after I'd phoned her and spoken to her and she never mentioned it to me - even said "oh I forgot why I phoned". And apparently for Christmas she's brought me a "light hearted" "funny" book that I'm not meant to take offense to and I gather it's to do with parenting. Hmmm, I'm thinking that's going to go down like a lead balloon. She told me I should be able to go shopping and stand in a bookshop and read for 5mins and expect Nathan to sit on the floor quietly while I do so, and that now is the time I should be teaching him to do that. WTF? Why should he have to sit on the floor for 5mins?
Anyway, sorry for this being long, I just wanted to vent otherwise it's going to keep playing on my mind.
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 21, 2005, 20:55:31 pm
Traci - look after yourself little lady! Go to the dr! If you're not wanting to 'make a fuss' think of Cole, he needs you well. Good to hear you're dad's getting better.
Richelle - great photo. :D
Holly - welcome back. Sounds like you've had a busy busy time, I hope things are ok with Brady. Let us know when you've got a minute....
Nikki - I love Danielle's hair, those little curls are just adorable. And she's so talented already.
Ankie - I have also been known to go in and reposition Daniel when he's still sleeping so he doesn't wake up when I'm asleep. :oops: He stays sleeping and then I can too.
Hi to everyone else. At least with this busy season we haven't all been on as much so not as many pages to catch up on when you miss a day. Phew.
We had a good day yesterday. I had our coffee group in town so after Daniel's morning nap (1 hour) ending at 10.30 off we went. On the way home he fell asleep 5 mins before getting home. Fine, no problem, he'll just go back to sleep when we put him in his cot. YEAH RIGHT!!! Even after a buggy walk and cuddles on the couch with mum still no sleep. So we put him down at 6.30pm instead. He slept all night until 6.30am! I only went in once to cover him up about 3.15am. Oh and about 8.30pm he started crying, too hot, so I stripped him down to singlet and s/bag instead of long sleeve body suit. So you heard it hear, 1 hour and 5 mins sleep and he was fine! Wouldn't want to do that too often though.
I'm off to lunch with my work girls today. They finish up and all the bosses have gone already, so I got a 'leave pass' from DH. He's going to look after Daniel while I enjoy a yummy grown up lunch without Daniel. Yay!!! I can't wait.
Well, better go and finish getting ready for the day and for my parents arriving today. I won't be on as much for the next week or so with my parents here and Christmas and stuff. But I'll catch up with you all when I can.
On a serious note.....
Keep smiling everyone, and remember Christmas is only 1 day of the year, so enjoy whatever it brings! (hopefully great presents from our DH's! :lol: ) Just kidding, enjoy the celebrations for whatever they mean to you, spiritual, a time for family or a time for reflection. And remember how blessed/lucky we are to have such wonderful friends, family and LO's we have to share it with.
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 21, 2005, 22:42:32 pm
My shopping is now done, so all I have to do is get my house and my family ready to leave on FRiday morning. My brain is a little fried, so I don't remember what everyone said, but here's what I did want to comment on:
CATHY--Liv has been poking/biting/grabbing/banging, etc. anything in sight (including me and DH). I usually just try to distract her since I know she doesn't really know what she's doing and isn't being malicious. When she tries to "suck" on my face, I say "Oh, thank you for the kisses." But if she starts to chomp down, then I say, "OK, don't bite, that hurts Mommy."
HANNAH--you're too funny avoiding all your family and friends for the BW site. You know you're addicted when...!
NIKKI--I'm soooo sorry for the situaton with your mom and SD. I hope you can resolve things and it gets better. We've been lucky that my parents and ILs both have not tried to "teach" us to discipline yet. I'm sure the day will come!
OK, off to do some more work...only 3 more days, girls!!!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 21, 2005, 22:43:35 pm
Post by: Erin M on December 21, 2005, 23:09:00 pm
Full moons - you can TOTALLY tell when you're a teacher when the moon is full. Some nights I'd be driving home after a super crazy day and I'd look up and there would be that full moon hanging up there.
Cathy - we get the poking here too. Katie's favorite places for her fingers these days are in my mouth and up my nose (ouch!). I just try to move them and distract her. I figure it's her (and Carter's) way of exploring and finding out more and at some point she'll find out all she wants to and move on. Katie was also 18.5 pounds at her nine month visit and 28 inches I think, so he's bigger than her!
Judy - DH is a hottie (hope you don't mind me saying). You have such a beautiful family!
Nancy - yeah for getting out!
Hayley - thanks for the lovely sentiment!
Have to run - we were out and about this afternoon and have totally missed Katie's PM nap - poor little miss crankypants is in desperate need of some attention!
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 21, 2005, 23:17:32 pm
JUDY--what a beautiful family. You must be so proud! And what a great picture! How in the world did you get a shot of ALL 4 kids in a peaceful state of mind. It was hard enough for us to get our 1!!!
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 21, 2005, 23:23:10 pm
I'm still a little unsure of what we'll be doing in this household, so who knows I may yet have to implement my own suggestions one day!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 21, 2005, 23:46:43 pm
Erin, they were crappy choices and I know I wouldn't have been happy about either, so why would he want to stop crying for except out of fear of the outcome (not saying .he fears grampy, but he just didn't want to be ripped off his mothers knee and told to sit there).
Right, off to get these two down for a nap.
Post by: Judy on December 22, 2005, 00:30:40 am
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... I went out shopping last night and my mum phoned and DH spoke to her, she started on at him about how I need to get Nathan sorted out since he's being very attention seeking lately and it needs to be stopped ...
Seriously - she called and felt she had the right to tell your dh how you need to parent Nathan? Bad enough if she felt she had the right to call and tell you - all based on a situation she wasn't even involved in... but to tell your dh? Nervy.
Ok - so, you need to get Nathan sorted out - uh, why? Everyone of us is attention seeking - he!! if a child's parent(s) aren't going to give him attention who is? What is wrong with wanting one's parent's attention? Who is she to say it needs to be stopped? Is this criminal behaviour? Would he turn out a better human being by being taught that he isn't always deserving of mom's love and attention? Sure there are going to be times it can't come as quickly but that's hardly the same as not entitled? Gosh imagine the next time one of us wanted a hug from dh and he was busy and we pouted and he said "fine go to your room" (ok - I'm gonna admit that I might be tempted to be pleased to be sent to my room, alone for 37minutes :) but YKWIM!)
This would tick me off!!!!!!! (well, as I've already told you...)
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I didn't know she'd been bleating on at DH until after I'd phoned her and spoken to her and she never mentioned it to me - even said "oh I forgot why I phoned". And apparently for Christmas she's brought me a "light hearted" "funny" book that I'm not meant to take offense to and I gather it's to do with parenting. Hmmm, I'm thinking that's going to go down like a lead balloon. She told me I should be able to go shopping and stand in a bookshop and read for 5mins and expect Nathan to sit on the floor quietly while I do so, and that now is the time I should be teaching him to do that. WTF? Why should he have to sit on the floor for 5mins?
Boy I'm interested in hearing what this book is. You know, when you have to say "here's a gift but please don't take offense to it" well - that's precisely when you really do KNOW it's not a gift to be giving. So when you open it can you say "gee, you were right... this really wasn't worth looking forward to". Gosh wouldn't it be hillarious if it was the Supernanny book!! HA!! I'd laugh. Do you have a fireplace? We heat by woodstove only so I've been known to comment about the need for kindling before ;)
Honestly I hate when parents think you need guidance in being a parent. :roll: And WTF is up with going to a book store and expecting him to sit quietly on the floor for 5min. I would say that's expecting a lot.. sure I know of kids who would do it... but I don't want those to be my kids. I want my kids to know that if they don't want to be there they have every right to voice their opinion. I'm not looking to have perfectly behaved marionettes... I want children who can think and reason and problem solve for themselves. I want them to one day say to me "hey mom, how about while you're looking at that book we go over and check out the music over there" Obviously depending on age that may or may not be a good idea but it's problem solving. I think if a child doesn't want to look at books and you don't want to be at the park any longer then maybe there's something you'd BOTH like as much or better. Maybe go for icecream or go home and make cookies or go take our bikes out for a ride or go to the bookstore and get books for everyone. I think it's just plain controlling to expect a child to sit quietly while you shop. If they're happy to hang out great. They're people too right?
Can you say to her "you might think so mom, but we don't"??? This of course coming from someone who just had it out with their own mom over this type of thing so I'm prolly still a bit hot headed about it all.... but really if you didn't ask for their input.. Grrrrrrrrrr
Ok so how soon can you post to us which book she got? ;) And hey, many bookstores here will take returns no problem - maybe you can exchange it for something worthwhile.
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Post by: Colesmom on December 22, 2005, 00:39:37 am
love the pics-Judy, Holly, Richelle, Karen, Nikki...hmmm was that all?
Cathy-Cole is totally grabby/pokey too, drives me nuts. soooo determined to rip our glasses off at every opportunity. His 4th tooth is nearly through and I think it's bothering him more than the others...it's all swollen and red and I don't remember the first 3 being like that.
Hannah- the "cole" problem is funny. that reminds me to spend some A time helping him get down. He can do it from the couch etc. At night though I really think he's often standing before he wakes and then freaks out!
Judy-
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Nikki-Sorry about the SD situation. How frustrating! My parents won't be watching Cole much because of my dad but I can tell my mom bites her tongue on a few things. I told her once not to ring the bell and she said they need noise when they sleep. Really? That's good for them is it? Anyhoo, thankfully MIL will do as I say and I think maybe I'll get her BW so she can read up. Again, sorry-I hope you can get them on your side.
Hayley-Thanks for the reminder
Holly-great new avatar, love the poem!
Ankie-woo hoo on the good night. glad you figured out the problem. maybe as she becomes more proficient in the day she'll get better at night with the crawling thing?
Bianca-Cole has also started only taking one side! For a while I was pumping the other side but now I don't. I think my supply might be adjusting for it and my friend reminded me that our milk is fattier now I think. Thankfully Cole only clamped down a couple of times before teeth and I did the "ouch, that hurts mommy". Hasn't done it with teeth. He'll come off, bite my thumb, then go back on, my smart little guy :wink:
k, now about us. I am feeling MUCH better. thank you all for your concern. I went to sleep at 8:35 pm last night. Cole's night was so so. woke at 1:15, settled on and off several times, sometimes holding my hand, sometimes not but wouldn't go back down until 3:45. I fed him at 3:15 as it had been 8 hours and because he wouldn't settle I figured it was hunger :? I had given teething stuff, gas stuff, and gripe water. He then slept until 6:30. Funny how I now think that's an okay night. 1:15 seems to be habitual, do I dare try wake to sleep tonight. I would HATE it if he was then up from 12:15-4 or so!
Today he was a STAR! Had first and second naps in the car and I went to the dentist 45 minutes away. Was great for my SIL who watched him. Didn't even cry when I left I think. Wouldn't eat when we got there, too interested in the dog...so he didn't eat from 6:30-11:30...well, had 3 mum mums with SIL. His first car nap was 40 min, second one 1:10, ending at 2:10 sooooooooooo no catnap today. I went to the mall since he was still asleep and grabbed 10 min. of shut eye myself in the parking lot. AND finished my shopping. WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I was holding the last gift in the air at the department store saying "it's the last gift, it's the last gift". people must have thought ME loopey Judy.
Anyhoo, he fed to sleep at 6:35pm. That was as far as I could stretch him. I totally expected him to wake at the 45 min and hour marks...but he hasn't yet....no jinx, no jinx, no jinx.
okay, gotta go get dinner ready, but I'll be BACK! I am not done with my BW fix for the day. phew.
oh yes, there is a chat tonight isn't there!! YAY!!!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 00:44:50 am
Nikki hugs to you...I live thousands of miles away from my family...for a reason. I love them in very small doses. I feel for you. And everything else Judy said!!! :) I think the main thing is stand up for your right to parent your children the way you want to. I have been having to do this since day 1 with Sophie (and it's NOT easy!) and I am sure it will only get worse at which point I hope you'll still be around for me to rant to and get advice from.
Judy gorgeous family picture.
I can't remember anything else I read..brain dead.
Dh ranted at/with me last night because of major stress at work and my head is still spinning a little, I'll try to elaborate later.
Anybody chatting tonight? If not, I'll see you all tomorrow.
Traci--hope you're feeling better.
Naomi...good job with the phones btw!
Hannah
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 22, 2005, 01:07:08 am
Judy, you had me ROTFLMAO and even tears welling up in my eyes!
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Boy I'm interested in hearing what this book is. You know, when you have to say "here's a gift but please don't take offense to it" well - that's precisely when you really do KNOW it's not a gift to be giving. So when you open it can you say "gee, you were right... this really wasn't worth looking forward to". Gosh wouldn't it be hillarious if it was the Supernanny book!! HA!! I'd laugh. Do you have a fireplace? We heat by woodstove only so I've been known to comment about the need for kindling before
Maybe I could prop the book up behind the glass door all ready for next winter LOL!
Hopefully it comes with an exchange card. Honestly, she said it a couple of times that hopefully I wouldn't be offended and it was meant like that and not to be offensive. :roll: Gee, and I'm useless at putting on a grateful face if I felt otherwise. :oops:
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I want my kids to know that if they don't want to be there they have every right to voice their opinion. I'm not looking to have perfectly behaved marionettes...
My thoughts precisely, I've been regaining my confidence my entire life because of their dictatorial parenting style. And now they have the gall to tell me that I "am very quick to anger". Yeah, now that I'm an adult and they have no right to shut me up I actually DO voice my opinion. 8)
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Can you say to her "you might think so mom, but we don't"???
I like that, I do need some canned responses, because I still have this tendency to shut down and get teary if they confront me over stuff (or I end up going into a hissy fit with them. :roll: ).
I know if I don't have some other responses, something like "well I'm trying not to parent the way I was parented because I plain don't like the way you went about it" - and I really don't want it to come to that where it just all blurts out.
Post by: FrasersMum on December 22, 2005, 01:10:23 am
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Maybe I could prop the book up behind the glass door all ready for next winter LOL!
Hahahahahaha!! Is it a full moon?? :lol: :lol:
Post by: Jayri on December 22, 2005, 01:13:55 am
I got cards from andrea and macaire, what beautiful pictures. Andrea you made dh's day when he saw dh on there, he was hopping around like a kid, he was soo surprised to be acknowledged.
So so far I have had cards from micky, michelle, kate, holly, cathy, traci, roz, and ankie....thank you so much grils. Has anyone recieved mine yet,I am feeling a little guilty cuz I didn't put pic in the cards, I am trying to get the scanner up and running, but for some reason there are not enough hours in the day recently.
Sorry I didn't comment on any1 else, i get a little overwhelmed at times with the three pages or so that are put up each day.
Did you girls realise it only took us a month this time to reach almost 100 pages. We may as well keep going on if we are keeping this rate up.
Is everyone still up for the chat on friday, I can't make tonight's, but I don't feel as drained this week.
Riley is getting easier at night too, still fussy, no biggie, but we haven't had hours of screaming in a while, I kinda figured that it was a different cry, like she was mad, so one day I put her down while she was screaming, she went for about 5 mins or so and then conked out. And she has been getting better each night.
Righty ho girls, I will love and leave you and will check in in the morning to see how you all are!!!!!
Post by: kate585 on December 22, 2005, 02:54:19 am
Well, my Dad is gone and we had a lovely visit, but I kept thinking...if only he'd take a really long shower, I could go up and check in with the girls. :oops: (You know you're addicted when....) He had the BEST time with Ryan and it was fun to see them together. I showed him your cards since I got 4 from you all the first day he was here! He just thinks it is the coolest thing ever to have friends from all over the globe and from New Jersey, too. Hahahaha (J/K, Erin!) It was good to hear a postivie response since most people who hear about this site think either a.) you are all a bunch of mass murderers trying to steal Ryan or b.) I am just a major geek for chatting online and you all must be too. 8)
I have read all the pages I missed (Who said these were slow days? I've been reading for at least an hour and I've only missed since Monday!) I have loved all the pics and the new avatars. When I saw your pics of Sam, Karen, I just said, "Oh, look at him!" But, there was no one here and I realized it's getting pathetic to be talking to Ryan AFTER he's already in bed. :oops: Erin, I too show Ryan all his friends...he especially like's Cole's avatar that moves...not his own, though, which is interesting.
Big (((hugs))) to our dearest Ankie! And some more for Holly, Traci, and Nikki. Thanks, Andrea, for making that document...I've saved it for the future. Also, dh LOVED seeing his new name on the card. :lol:
Bec, loved seeing your "other" child. (Warning: Charity pitch ahead) I sponsor a girl, Nusly, in Guatemala through Christian Foundation for Children and the Aging (http://www.cfcausa.org). I only pay $20 a month which is all I could afford when I started doing it. I adopted her when I was 16 (and she was 4...now she's 16 herself!) after my aunt went on a mission trip with CFCA to write an article about it. So much of the $ goes to the people in the towns and not to administrative costs, adverts, etc. like a lot of those you see on TV do. I get letters from her a few times a year and I've written to her a bunch and sent her wedding pictures, Ryan's birth announcement, etc. My aunt said when she met her sponsored child, her picture (my aunt's) was up on the mantle. How cute is that? :D Just wanted to offer a GREAT organization if you are interested. (Sorry if that was preachy! :oops: )
Okay, must go make cookie dough for tomorrow. SIL is coming over to help me decorate cookies and keep an eye on the babe. Can't believe how much I missed my "make-believe" friends! :D
Post by: Richelle on December 22, 2005, 03:01:32 am
Nikki - I can't imagine that it is easy to deal with! When I was at home I was going out and leaving Sophie with my dad and I reminded him that she was to have her nap in1/2 an hour and not to get her all hyped up and I had a fit at him when he said to me, "you know I did raise you and your 2 brother's, I will be able to tell if she is tired, I'm not completely useless" to which I replied "You may have raised 3 children but you are not raising mine, thank you very much and if you would like me to trust you with Sophie you will follow my rules and her routine!" :oops: It is a great idea to prepare some canned responses so you are ready and stop them in their tracks.
Naomi - good to know you are feeling better and things are settling down!
Hannah - I just finished Nanaimo Bars EH?, sugar cookies, butter tarts and peanut butter blossoms. I have enough to take to our 3 parties onChristmas day. That is an island thing by the way, after you have a nice lunch ect you go party hopping - there are key parties that a few people throw every year. I am striving to become one of the people that throws the party :wink: :roll: !
I am pooped, I bought a small tree today, I caved, I couldn;t let Sophie have her first christmas without a tree. I was sort of boycotting b/c I am still depressed that I lost all my decorations ect...(lots of fabulous ones - collected over 6 years) in the hurricane last year. So we have a 3 foot tree with some ribbon and 9 bulbs 8) :lol:, very Charlie Brownesque, DH came home and said AWWWW how cute where is the mommy tree?!
I'll post a pic (yes that is DH's foot, poor guy is having a rough nitght on the couch!)
Post by: kate585 on December 22, 2005, 03:05:10 am
Really going to make that dough now!
Post by: Colesmom on December 22, 2005, 03:12:02 am
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I realized it's getting pathetic to be talking to Ryan AFTER he's already in bed.
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got booted off the chat so thought i'd come check in:) missed ya kate:)
glad your visit went well.
richelle-cute tree. sorry about all your lost memories :cry:
Post by: becca24 on December 22, 2005, 03:13:21 am
Here goes, hope I can remember everything I wanted to say:
Nikki - Halle doesn't look like she will be crawling anytime soon. She sits up really well and a few days ago started turning around (while sitting). She can roll from front to back but not the other way. hmmmm what else - she waves ta-ta, claps hands (sometimes), you can say "dancy-dance" to her and she kind of shakes her head around. (DH likes to think she is moshing) and she does a 'percy' which is something I used to do when I was a baby. We had a Pug dog named percy that snorted and screwed its face up. Mum used to get my to act like percy all the time :roll: Now she is getting Halle to do it :roll:
I turned out to be 38oC here yesterday. A few of us went to the pool. One of the girls phoned me this morning to tell me her dd has chicken pox :evil: I have flash backs of her kissing Halle in the pool yesterday :twisted: :twisted: I realise she didn't know at the time but I can't help feeling ed off over it :oops: :oops: I really hope she does not get it.
As for the parent/discipline thing - do you all think that sometimes they forget?? :? Like MIL will say stupid crap like "None of my kids dribbled" or "My kids would stand in the book store for 5 mins :wink: " or the classic "my kids slept through from two weeks old" :twisted: Shouln't she be using a cup by now???? My kids ALWAYS used manners/ate all their tea/did chores etc etc blah blah blah. I think maybe her kids did all that because they were SCARED of their father - that is not something to brag about if you ask me.
Bianca - I got some really good advice and help from Annamum in the breast feeding forum when Halle was going through a bit of breast refusal.
Judy - your family pic is beautiful!! You look so young - how do you do it? LOL at taking photo's of split lips etc. I have a bad habit at laughing at people when they fall over etc. (after checking they are ok first of course :wink: ) Used to LMAO at people falling of their horses!!!! Funny thing I fell over at the gym yesterday and had half the place laughing at me.
Richelle - great photo of Sophie with her bum up! Is that a crip bumper thing? we are advised not to use them here but I think that would help with Halle's waking sometimes.
Cathy - We are getting bitten, scratched, hair pulled, screamed at, poked and pinched here all the time :lol: Oh the joys!!!!!!!
Nancy - all that shopping sounds exhausting! Glad she was a good girl for you!!
Hannah & Richelle - re: Nirinjan. I get updates about his family and community, photo's and Nirinjan will send a picture he draws usually of a flower but this year he drew a mango. I really love receiving these and get so excited to hear about his comminity. But no, I don't write back. I am not sure what to say. It's hard to explain because I am so crap at putting things into words But it has to do with what Richelle said about excess. I just feel like I have so much compared to him and what am I supposed to say? I mean a mango is important to him so I am not sure what to tell him about us??? I suppose I can talk about Halle now??
Traci - LOL at you in the store shouting aobut the last gift!!! yee haa that must feel good. Only gifts I have left to get is Mum's. It's her birthay Christmas Eve also so she get two gifts!! I have left it up to my brother to get the gift. His nickname is 'Fortnight' so needless to say he hasn't got it yet :evil: :evil: I better phone him and put a rocket up him!!
I was PMing everyone I got cards from but I got so many today I will just thank you all here. So thanks to ERIN, ANDREA, ROZ, JO, KAREN, MICHELLE,TRACI, MICKY,ANKIE,KATE & LISA - I love love love love love them!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 03:20:58 am
Kate and Bec thanks for the info on sposoring. I think it's a great idea. and Bec I know what you mean about the excesses but yes I think it would be really great to write to him about hallee....kids are sort of the equalizer KWIM?
Also I DO think parents have forgotten. You said it very well BEc. If I knew how to do quotes...there would be one from your post here.
Cute tree Richelle. Good for you.
There's more but I am dying to check the mail :)
Hannah
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Post by: Judy on December 22, 2005, 03:43:14 am
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Maybe I could prop the book up behind the glass door all ready for next winter LOL!
OMG that would be hillarious!! I can just picture it propped up waiting for the next big fire!! :) Take a picture for me!! (now *I* have tears!!) Gosh girl it's too bad we live so far apart - we could have FUN!!
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Hopefully it comes with an exchange card. Honestly, she said it a couple of times that hopefully I wouldn't be offended and it was meant like that and not to be offensive. :roll: Gee, and I'm useless at putting on a grateful face if I felt otherwise. :oops:
I can't believe she KEEPS saying it. Honestly, she should not be giving a gift that comes with a disclaimer - especially one like that. If she says it again before you open it I'd be saying "geee mom I can hardly wait! Hope you put a gift receipt with it" I mean if she has the nerve to say "I hope you aren't offended" then you've the right to say "can I take it back!"
What would be better open gifts right away and get it over with and then stew the rest of the day (I like to stew about things!! I reeeaaaallly start to boil then! :)) or open gifts after dinner and all but have it hanging in the air all day? Better yet sneak under the tree and find a book shaped gift for you and have it go missing!! :P
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My thoughts precisely, I've been regaining my confidence my entire life because of their dictatorial parenting style. And now they have the gall to tell me that I "am very quick to anger".
Oh man this sounds exactly like my life!! Honestly. My mom would send an email (LONG) once a year detailing her current issues with my life. One time she called me up and said she wanted to get together for coffee and I finally got up the nerve to say "why don't you just tell me now what it is you have on your mind" so she went on about how she didn't like me living with Chris and she didn't see our relationship heading toward marriage. Ok so since you don't LIVE with us you really couldn't possibly see where the relationship was going and even if it was going nowhere - what business is that of yours. So since he hasn't proposed in the last 4 years I should dump him because.... you don't see it going where you want??? She must've been so pleased when we then went and bought our house... or maybe a year after that when I told them we were finally getting married - oh, and um that's not all - I'm pregnant! HA!!! Actually I said "I've got more news" and my dad said "you'd better not say you're pregnant!" and I said 'you might want to leave the room then!! :) Took him 45min to stop glaring at me - but he came round.
Anyway we got married a couple months later and my brother was home from Vegas so we spent a fair bit of time with the folks. Anyway after the week I got ANOTHER email about my anger, hostility, judgements of them and so on. I was ticked. I'd put up with this and defended myself long enough so I called up my mom and said "you both home? ok. I've got your letter and I'm on my way over. We're gonna talk" and I walked in and said to them that I would say everything I had to say, I would listen to their points but this was IT. I did not ever want to get another letter again. If they didn't like what I had to say and didn't come round to treating me differently that was fine - either we get this cr ap sorted out and move forward as a family or I'll be happy to put a whole he!! of a lot of distance in there. I was annoyed and they did listen up. First time ever in my life. And I was blunt - "you want to know why I'm hostile when I come here - because you people are controlling and sarcastic and rude (dad). Mom I don't need letters telling me what you think, I grew up with you I KNOW how you think - take note - I make my own choices anyway!" So anyway it went really well and they haven't come at me so directly since - until this past month and she backed down very quickly this time. No one should have to get to that point and I'm not encouraging you to at all - just sharing a story. I remembered it when you said your folks are talking of your anger. They just don't see it eh? Obviously not - if they're telling YOU how to parent they still believe they did a good job and who wants to go down that path of telling them differently. What would it gain? Nothing!
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Yeah, now that I'm an adult and they have no right to shut me up I actually DO voice my opinion. 8)
I think this is really hard for parents to accept - especially controlling ones... they've managed to control you your whole life and suddenly now they can't and they can't expect to - tough spot. Takes all their power away and they are left giving you gifts with disclaimers for Christmas.
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I like that, I do need some canned responses, because I still have this tendency to shut down and get teary if they confront me over stuff (or I end up going into a hissy fit with them. :roll: ).
I've used a lot of "our house" "we" statements that make my point and point out that it's both dh & I and that don't invite further input. Like "we don't spank in this house", "we agree that...." etc.
Gosh can you tell this so hits home with me? I'm like a dog with a bone eh? grrrrrr ;)
Post by: Judy on December 22, 2005, 03:49:31 am
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I am pooped, I bought a small tree today, I caved, I couldn;t let Sophie have her first christmas without a tree. I was sort of boycotting b/c I am still depressed that I lost all my decorations ect...(lots of fabulous ones - collected over 6 years) in the hurricane last year.
Oh but think of it... now you can get a special decoration each year with Sophie. It can be your and her new tradition. :)
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...(yes that is DH's foot, poor guy is having a rough nitght on the couch!)
DH takes up permanent residence on our couch too. Used to tell me "someone's gotta keep it from levitating!" :roll:
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Judy - your family pic is beautiful!! You look so young - how do you do it?
Oh you are tooooo sweet!! young? I love you!!! (I'm 37 btw... I think, hold on............................... yup that's right. I always have to do the math :roll:)
A few months back I said to dh "I'm not looking as good as I used to" and he said "of course you aren't - you're old" :roll:
Post by: FrasersMum on December 22, 2005, 03:59:21 am
By the way, am loving the dialogue with Nikki re the parents. I guess most of us aren't there yet but our time will come! Andrea, maybe you can put this chat into a word document for our future reference as well :D Otherwise, I really really hope Judy and Nikki you guys are still around when we need help!
Oh, and Bec - sorry, did you say you aren't good at putting things into words?? Certainly fooled me :D
Cheers and Beers!
Jo
Post by: B&BMommy on December 22, 2005, 04:34:48 am
Congrats Traci on the Moderator, (yes I'm behind) and that you are feeling better.
And great that your dad is home from the hospital.
Big hugs to Ankie (((hugs)))
Wow Judy, you don't look your age at all, much much younger!!! very nice family pic. [[DH takes up permanent residence on our couch too. Used to tell me "someone's gotta keep it from levitating!" ]], too funny Judy
Cathy - sorry you're getting bitten etc right now..hope its just the teeth too. :?
Kate...lol at your coment
a.) you are all a bunch of mass murderers trying to steal Ryan or b.) I am just a major geek for chatting online and you all must be too. I have got the exact same responce from friends/family especially A) lmao
Kate again - and Andrea - what document was saved, I've been doing my best to keep up to date, and still back track to all I have missed so I can get caught up on stuff, but I seem to have missed a document somewhere, I'm going back now to see what page (s) I missed that was about this...but just wondering...
Got some more cards today from all of you...thanks soooo much love all the pics of your lo's. I am so hoping all of mine get to you all soon in time. :roll: :oops:
Well we haven't been having good nites again, Brady seems to be having tummy troubles, gas, I've been giving him ovol, but it doesn't seem to be working. On a good note, Brady is so ready to be crawling, he gets up on his hands and knees and rocks back and forth, wanting so bad to get moving, soon, very soon. He says mama and dada very well now, but I could have sworn he said Elmo today...lol....
Well i should run for now, so much to do in so little time, how the heck did Christmas just sneak up on me like this, didn't I have a year to prepare since last year..... :shock:
Hugs to you all, and wishes for sleep filled nites
Holly
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Post by: mickymuscles on December 22, 2005, 05:28:01 am
I gotta pop on and say hi before my eyes fall out of my head!! :shock: I've been up since 3:30am on the airplane at 6:30am and finally in san diego at 1:45pm. With one of my suitcases missing! :shock: It's now 10:15pm and I think i've become a zombie!! Jack did so good on the plane rides!! He was an angel baby today! On both legs of the flight he fells asleep for an hour right at the beginning while he was drinking his bottle and was happy for the rest of the flight winning the hearts of all women around him :wink: Even one of the women said at the end of the flight "Did he sleep the whole way?" :D He was so good. But one lady :twisted: I could have slapped her!!! Right before we boarded the plane I gave Jack a very small dose of Gravol (since he does have reflux and he's never been on a plane before-I didn't want him puking on me-and what's the harm IF it did make him a little sleepy?-but it didn't) Anyways, this B*TCH said to me "Shame on you!".....I just about stood up and kicked her in the SN@TCH! GRRRRRR! Who the hell are you to tell me what the hell I can give to MY SON! :twisted:
But we made it (minus one suitcase) and Jack passed out fairly easily in my sister's new nursery. We'll see how he goes down tomorrow. Oh, one more rant... :evil: My sisters stupid MIL.....we went to Target to get some supplies (ie. food, diapers, wipes, baby shampoo...i didn't bring any because my sister said she needed to get it anyway since she is expecting soon) anyways...that's another story......after spending $120US on food and supplies....my sister's stupid MIL says to me "oh, let me know if you need any more supplies for the next time I go to the army base...the store there has a ton of baby supplies and they are subsudised HUGELY!" GRRRRRR!!! I jsut about wanted to say " WTF! Do you think Jack needs all this food for tonight???? IDIOT!"
Enough of me ranting...my sis just brought me a piece of icecream cake for my 32nd B-day. Double GRRRRR!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 22, 2005, 06:48:17 am
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OMG that would be hillarious!! I can just picture it propped up waiting for the next big fire!! Take a picture for me!! (now *I* have tears!!) Gosh girl it's too bad we live so far apart - we could have FUN!!
I wish I lived close to a lot of the gals on this site *sigh*. I'm kinda looking forward to what "my" book is now heehee!
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I've used a lot of "our house" "we" statements that make my point and point out that it's both dh & I and that don't invite further input. Like "we don't spank in this house", "we agree that...." etc.
That's a good tactic, I think I will do that. I need to go back and collect together some responses you've all given me and play them over in my head. I always think of this stuff AFTER the drama and wish I could have thought of it in the moment.
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Gosh can you tell this so hits home with me? I'm like a dog with a bone eh? grrrrrr
This is great for me too, it's not something I've probably explored enough and stew on it since I don't have anyone to share it with, so it's actually been really good therapy for me. Gosh our little thread's like a little global soap opera.
Hannah & Bec
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My kids ALWAYS used manners/ate all their tea/did chores etc etc blah blah blah. I think maybe her kids did all that because they were SCARED of their father - that is not something to brag about if you ask me.
I think they forget as well. But then I guess that can be a good thing, just not good for the kids when they pass on the "you never did....". I soooo have to remember that and never torture my kids or their partners that way.
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Oh, yeah, forgot to add, Nikki, Deb made a list of some good canned responses to use with her in laws in the Lounge perhaps. It had some really good ones!
Kate, think I'll go check that out.
Well we had a wonderful day, Nathan is just such a different kid when I'm not trying to reign him in - I'm not even talking about letting him get away with stuff that I would have deemed inappropriate. Just having fun and not worrying about things. The amount of times today I've been going to give a response to him like "no we can't go to the park..." and actually just gone to the park for 20mins when driving home from the mall, heck we didn't have anything else to do, or instead of saying "Nathan put that CD down...." and said instead "hey, do you want to bring that over here and we'll have a little look at it" and put the CD into the laptop and have a listen. It takes a lot more creativity, but it's soooo easy once you get into the frame of mind of letting go of expectations, unnecessary rules and a lot of it is based around "just because" (read: controlling). Can't wait to get my UP book. :D
I bought Danielle a Nuby straw sipper today, she just wasn't getting the hang of the little free flow one, as soon as I sat it on the floor in front of her she leant over, put her lips over the straw and started sucking LOL. She's suddenly stretched her activity time between #1 and #2 nap and is now awake 4hrs - kind of a pain, cause it offsets her and Nathans naptimes. But it's actually nice to get some one-on-one time with her as well.
Well girls, thanks for being here for me today. :D
Post by: BiancaB on December 22, 2005, 09:59:34 am
Thanks for your replys re Sienna.
I loved the last few pages, I had a good laugh! Kyan being a very sensitive chap, wakes up most naps with a scowl and always takes awhile to warm up to visitors although he is great with those he knows very well. So I relate to the coments from all those caring ones who like to enforce "good behaviour"...
Try being the only "weirdO" who doesn't believe in corporal punishment in my community of friends..I am so proud of us)me and dh) for sticking to our gentle methods as you can see the difference in how he views us as his friends not just the two bosses!!
Anyway I love you Judy and Nikki and all those who try to think outside the square :wink: Your very inspiring..
Sienna has settled on a 5 hr routine and has lessen with the biting..MUST be her little top teeth coming through.
Thought I'd post a fam pic..love your latest Judy..
Take care B
Post by: becca24 on December 22, 2005, 10:13:41 am
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Anyways, this B*TCH said to me "Shame on you!".....I just about stood up and kicked her in the SN@TCH! GRRRRRR!
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I would have knocked her out !! :wink:
Post by: Richelle on December 22, 2005, 13:07:20 pm
Micky - I cannot stand the unsolicited advice and/or comments from strangers. It is soooo common with caribbean women, I get them all the time, 'why don't you pierce your baby's ears, she looks like a boy' , 'can I wipe your baby's face, it's dirty', 'you really should make your own baby food (from the teller at the grocery store :shock: )', 'you are going to give your baby a headache if you put ponytails in' - meanwhile you could bounce a quarter of her daughters face her flippin' braids are so tight. Good for Jackson on the flights, I had never thought of gravol - Sophie pukes whenever we travel, duh!
Judy - I keep forgetting to say that your picture is Beautiful and ummmm 37? Jeez you should do an ad for Oil of Olay or some such...HOTSTUFF! You are so right about starting new and fresh, you would think I would be over this by now but it hits me again every once in awhile. Oh except when I was packing/unpacking our house and could be over heard 'WTF, how in the name of god have we accumulated so much sh!t in one year?'
Bec - LMAO at the nickname 'fortnight'!!! I am going to look into both organizations for sponsoring a child. Doesn't it just hit home that the mango is so important....
Kate - I forgot what I was going to say, it will come to me and I will post later..
Post by: Richelle on December 22, 2005, 14:34:58 pm
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 22, 2005, 16:00:40 pm
Richelle - PEANUT BUTTER BLOSSOMS?? Sounds divine. Could you PM me (or email) me the recipe?? I am a pb hound. Keep meaning to ask you too, are you a Canadian living in Cayman?? And how come?? Not really my business but I've always wondered how did you get lucky enough to live THERE as opposed to here in the snow and bluster??
Beautiful tree BTW!!! It would be very different to have Christmas with the sun out and +30!! That is too sad about the hurricane and losing all your treasured possessions.
Bec - Molly does the "percy" too!! Hilarious!! And I agree, the folks have definitely forgotten things from way back when. As if all the kids slept through the night at 2 weeks, ate like troupers, never cried or fussed, slept for 2 hour naps 3 times a day and stopped the bottle at 6 months. Come on!!
Judy - can't remember if I commented on your gorgeous picture, but I was surprised at how young you are!! You look awesome for having 2 toddlers and twin babies!! And I second the motion that DH is a hottie. No wonder all the girls are gorgeous! Good for you for dealing up front with your parents!! You are such an inspiration! Love your sense of humour by the way, keeps me laughing all the time.
Holly - poor Brady with the tummy troubles, but congrats on the almost crawling!! Woooo wooooo go Brady! Love your little dancing Santa!
Micky - awesome news about Jack's travelling!! I would have definitely said something to the rude lady. Not like you were pouring whiskey down his throat!! Some people are just too ignorant! Is your BDay today?? Happy Birthday whenever it is, or was! Ice cream cake...Mmmmmmmmmmm.
Nikki - sounds to me like you could have written the UP book, never mind having it delivered to you, you don't need it! You are doing an awesome job with your little ones already! Have you read Barbara Colorosso?? A lot of the same parenting principles in there. Thanks for the Nuby sipper cup tip. I think I'll get one for Molls. All she does with the other one is chew on it. Maybe it'll be easier for her with the straw...I dunno!
Biance - lovely family photo - how come all of us have such cute kids and gorgeous hubbies?? We are so blessed aren't we??
And...Molly is awake so gotta run. Weigh in day at WW. Gulp!!
Post by: Erin M on December 22, 2005, 16:07:04 pm
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but for some reason there are not enough hours in the day recentlyNaomi...ummm...gee, could it be that it's because you have 2 small kids, work full time at a new job, and Christmas is just around the corner. I did get your card yesterday though and it's lovely. Glad that Ri is sleeping better for you these days!
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a.) you are all a bunch of mass murderers trying to steal Ryan or b.) I am just a major geek for chatting online and you all must be too. I have got the exact same responce from friends/family especially A)Hey, I had a hard enough time convincing DH that this wasn't the case, so I generally avoid telling most people about all of you!
Kate - That's great about the kid that you sponsor - I don't think I ever realized it could go on for so long. Oh, and in regard to your NJ comment - too long ago to quote - I grew up in NY, where NJ was looked at as this nasty place where no one wanted to live - DH and I lived in NC for a few years after undergrad when we were in grad school and his best job offer ended up being in NJ - I kept saying to him "You can't be serious move to NJ?!" - but as it turns out, it's actually a really nice place to live (well at least this part of it!).
Nikki - I think I am now more excited to find out what you book is than for any Christmas present I might be getting. So much anticipation! And I love your thoughts with Nathan - sure, why can't we go to the park? - being a special ed teacher I always had smaller classes - 5/6 kids usually and I always tried to do that - sure, we can just read this story/talk about this topic/go off on this tangent/go outside and look for this thing we're talking about - so easy to get caught up in the pressures of what you "should" be doing sometimes.
Micky - Ridiculous the things people say - as this woman who has never even SEEN you before clearly knows what's best for Jack, who you've been caring for every day (and night!) of his life. Glad you made it there ok - and sorry about the lost suitcase - hope it turns up.
Bianca - lovely pic - Reminds me of an Easter pic around here, but of course it actually IS warm where you are!
Bec - keep cool - sounds way too hot around you!
Holly - hope you get your nights sorted out soon!
Bye for now!
Richelle
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Oh except when I was packing/unpacking our house and could be over heard 'WTF, how in the name of god have we accumulated so much sh!t in one year?'- Isn't it amazing? DH and I were moving every year for something like 4 years running and every time we moved it was the same thing. The last time when we moved up here, we had movers, since it was due to DH's new job and they packed everything...absolutely everything. I couldn't believe the amount of crap we hauled up here from NC to NJ that should have just been thrown in the dumpster. Oh, and I love your tree.
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 22, 2005, 16:09:08 pm
The colds are gone,no new teeth but WE ALL HAVE THE FLU!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :evil: :evil:
Maisie, Makaylee and me! What a lovely combo... TMI here ladies sorry- but it is so bad that I have started to barf after cleaning up their barf....
Nice heh! Well Pediatrician said this flu lasts 10 days, take away all solids and just give them formula and pedialite, and Diovol before every meal... good grief!
Good thing is that (knock on wood) they have slept awesome 730-730/8am for the last week :shock: ! Yeah for the Thomas house!
I am sitting here right now trying to protect my pug from the girls... he is trying to eat in peace and they pick on him- poor Maiximus.
Bec- I love the Percy story (as noted above we have a lovely pug "Maximus Leroy Pugimus" 8) he's a cool pug) and he just adores the girls... especially the whole dropping food off the high chairs bit!
Judy- You do look amazing after 4 babes, and your still a babe yourself :wink: .I had to show Sean your family picture. First so he could see how awesome the kids all look in their bright sweaters, and 2nd to show him it is possible to survive (and look good while surviving) if "someday" we have another... :lol:
Micky- Thats awesome that Jack was a little angel... I sooo know why everyone was smitten on the plane- Ladies this boy is a little looker!!!!
On the note of annoying "unauthorized" comments from strangers:
I wish I had a tail sometimes, because when people make those comments I would just smile, and as I walked away, My tail (which I image has a big man- hand on the end of it) would smack the person right square on the cheek... thats all. :lol: Maybe I will ask for a tail for christmas, is it too late? (Im not asking for a piece of tail either ladies, I know some of your minds and how they work! :wink: )
As for the MIL situation we had chatted about the other night... she has not returned a phone call in 4 days. Sean finally called her at work. He excuse was that "it was too late when she got home to check the messages"... WTH??? Idiot. Press the button on the phone, there aren't "closing hours" on your voicemail :roll: .. well anyway when Sean talked to her she said we still aren't sure, but we wil probably come down on the night of the 23rd... they know we have plans (fake plans to make sure they leave) at noon... so whats the point? They wont be able to see the girls by the time they get here at 10pm, and then the girls are only up for a few hours before their nap in the am anyway.... she baffles me???
Judy- I think you are a stronger person than I for sticking up to your own family.... can you stick up for me and tell my MIL to go to he!! for me? Just a little Christmas wish, thanks.
Jods
whewey LOOONGGG heh :oops:
Post by: M&M'sMom on December 22, 2005, 16:17:41 pm
M-Good luck at WW today! I think I may join in the new year, It will keep me on track. I started the excercise part, but the eating is rough (well the last couple days it has been slim-to-nil with the flu bug!)
As withe moving, I know the whole "where the he!! did all this come from... I think the goodwill loves Sean and I, we move every 2 years (no joke we have) and every time we drop off about 10 boxed to them... where do we get more of it???
have a great day ladies!
jods
Post by: Judy on December 22, 2005, 16:59:39 pm
I meant to add on the waking toddler/preschooler - Zoe ican be VERY grump when waking from a nap these days. AND if someone is here when she wakes that makes it even harder for her. I remember Chris' grandfather once saying that 'in his day' they'd have gotten a swat for such behaviour? I said to him "why would I hit her because she's not pleased you are her :shock:? That makes no sense at all. She's entitled to feel anyway she wants, she simply needs my help finding the best way to work through it and express it" spank her?? whatever!
Bianca, I've also had friends (good friends and not trying to be mean) give me a Dr. Phil "how's that working for ya?" comment :roll: But I stick by my 'marionettes' comment.
Richelle I too would be very sad about loosing so much in the hurricane. It makes so much sense... I'm just thinking of the future - I can see Sophie at 25, out on her own shopping for the perfect decoration for mom for Christmas because her and mom ALWAYS picked out a new decoration every year!! :)
And Micky OMG I can't believe that woman said that to you.
Nikki you are so right that it takes so much more energy to be creative but it totally pays off doesn't it? How totally happy Nathan must have been to make a suggestion, like the park, and hear mom say "sure" WOW!! Sometimes it hits me that this is THEIR life, their whole life and how sad if most of it is filled up with 'no, later, stop that, would you just, shhhhh'
Ok I better scoot - haven't got through all the pages yet but two babies on the floor and Zoe is sitting them up, lying the down (not so gently as they'd like), picking them up and moving them OY!!!! They aren't liking it so much "oh mom I stepped on her toe on an accident" :(
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 22, 2005, 17:14:50 pm
Richelle... that is a gorgeous tree. I love it and I love the ornament a year idea.
Beautiful family pictures Judy and Bianca!
Jody... boo hoo on the flu! Only good thing is the girls are sleeping and getting the rest they need to recover and letting you rest too!
Nikki... I have the same problem with my own mother and her comments around food and clothing. She insists that Arwyn is freezing her little a$$ off, no matter what I have her in and she nags and nags and nags, non-stop about it and even phones me to continue the nagging after she has left from her visit. :roll: The other is about food... she thinks Arwyn can eat anything, including traditional Chinese medicine. :evil: I know she has Arwyn's best interest at heart but I have to bite my tongue all the time and defend what I am doing. I do have it out with her sometimes when it goes on too long... I use lots of "I, we, me" statements such as "I have been doing a lot of reading...", "I've come across research that..." "I believe in..." and it helps but then my mother has a short memory :roll: and she starts up again. She has commented before, "You forget who raised you." to which I replied, "And you did a great job, Mom... I hope I can raise Arwyn just as well." :D
Naomi... Did get your card. Looking forward to a posted picture!
Erin... Got your card too... now I know what all the "blue eye" comments were about! WOW!
My mom thinks it is fun that I have meet all these people online. She thinks it is kinda strange and dangerous too, but she loved looking at all the pictures and figures it is okay because we are all moms of babies!
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 22, 2005, 18:08:07 pm
Just had to post these pics of Molly. One I took yesterday and one today. She is 8 months old today, sniff...sniff... :cry: where has the time gone??
BTW...somehow managed to lose 1.4 lbs this week?? Eating Christmas baking AND PMS'ing...dunno how that happened? :shock: Am now down 12 lbs in total!! Yaaaaaaaaay!! :lol:
Jody, I've seen your pic (most recent one of you and Sharon at WEM) and as if you need to join WW, you are a total hottie!! 8) You're young too, it comes off so much easier when you're younger. :(
Post by: mickymuscles on December 22, 2005, 18:13:25 pm
I gotta go back and read what you all were talking about with the canned responses!! If I had some on memory I could have given a doozy of a line to that lady! :wink: And they can always be useful for the parents or IL's. :D
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 18:31:00 pm
Gorgeous pics of Molly! She is precious. I love your captions too...isn't it funny that we, a bunch of 30 somthings (more or less) say stuff like "chilling"? :) We are just like soooo cool 8) :lol:
Micky glad you made it in one piece and I absolutely agree with what everyone else said about that lady's comment! Keep your thoughts to yourself lady!
I once heard an interview on NPR (pre Sophie so I was more interested on a theoretical level and didn't pay close attn. to the author) with a mother who wrote a book about all of the unsolicited comments she had recieved from strangers about her children. It sounded really good.
Maybe when Sophie is 2.5 years old or so I'll make her sit quietly on the floor at the bookstore fr 5 minutes while I try to find it :) (That was for you Nikki.)
I have been laughing to myself about Kate's mass- murderer/trying to steal Ryan comment..because a while back I had a thought about the "safety" of this site and I was going to say something even though I thought it was pretty silly...but I chose not to because I thought it would sound too creepy...like I was the mass murderer trying to steal Ryan (and all the others)
Gotta go...baby awake.
Hannah
Post by: solnme on December 22, 2005, 18:38:41 pm
As soon as I started reading (from page 90) i realized how much I've missed you ladies.
Micky - Happy B-Day! Way to go with the travelling! What a kool kat Jack is. 8)
Now about those comments Micky/Richelle/Ankie - My family is all from the Caribbean and Richelle nailed it, everyone is very free with advice and opinions. My Mom is great but I get emails from my aunts and cousins giving me advice and criticizing when they don't even know what I'm doing. When I mention that fact they say "We know you" :evil:
Nikki / Judy - I really enjoy your dialoges about family, parenting and guidance. I'm trying to keep it all in my head so I'll have it to fall back on. My Mom's friend was over with her the other day and she kept telling Sol "no, don't touch the VCR, don't pull that, don't pull this" I was in shock and didn't know what to say, thinking how the he!! am I gonna handle this one. I almost fell off my chair when my Mom told her to knock it off! She said," Roz doesn't waste her time telling Sol no over trivial things. If he wants to explore the house and it isn't dangerous, she lets him" I almost cried I loved her so much at that moment.
The IL's are a different story. Since we're spending Xmas with my family (which we do every year) I guess they are a little hurt. I cooked dinner for them the other night and was overwhelmed with all the back-handed comments about how Sol must like my family so much since he sees them all the time, and how important grandparents are during the holidays. :twisted: Then they brought out the camera and took a bunch of pictures of just DH and Sol. :twisted: :twisted: Then sent the pictures to us this morning addressed to Ken (DH):roll:
I agree with Judy that it's so not worth getting myself worked up over it anymore. Especially when I can come on line and vent. Thanks
Bianca - beautiful family! You all are glowing in that picture.
Bec/Kate - I think its wondrful that you have 'other' kids.
Got lots of cards! Thank you Traci, Naomi, Erin, Holly, Bec, and Macaire. Loved the family shot Macaire! It's great to match the Moms with the babes.
I was going to say more but can't remember. Guess I'll just have to come back...
Oh yeah... The last 7 days we've had tons of night wakings! I started out standing beside the crib for 30 mins. Next night at the door for 30, 3rd night outside the door for 20 and the last 2 nights I've only had to stand outside for 5 mins. Lets hope it lasts while we are at the families.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 22, 2005, 19:57:39 pm
Bianca, thanks for posting a pic of your whole family. :)
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"I have been doing a lot of reading...", "I've come across research that..." "I believe in..."
Ankie, I use this tactic too with my mum on other general parenting: cio, 4hrly feeds for a newborn :roll: . Works wonders. :D
Erin, that's so cool that you use the same tactics with the special ed kids, I bet they love it.
I guess the problem with the UP kind of parenting is that is against mainstream - there are sooo many programmes like Supernanny, Little Angles (not so bad) and we have a few local ones too that reinforce the I am the Boss and You must Comply kind of attitude. So guess my mum and SD think that that's what I should be doing??!!
Oh bugger, the review page thingy has run out, hope I've covered all I meant to comment on.
Post by: Erin M on December 22, 2005, 21:53:12 pm
Our afternoon -- Katie and I were out finishing up some Christmas stuff until past nap time, so we came home and I'm desperately trying to keep her awake by throwing toys in her lap at every red light and she stayed (relatively) awake. I put her in her crib and she's not sleeping, but just babbling so I went downstairs and was listening to her on the monitor when all of a sudden I hear CLUNK, CLUNK, CLUNK - WTH is that? So, I went upstairs and she's STANDING at the end of her crib smashing the blinds against the window (and looking very pleased with herself!). Now she's asleep, but I'm going to have to run back upstairs the second I hear her stirring to drop the mattress down. Fortunately, I dropped it once when she started sitting, so it's really only her head and shoulders that are above the top rail. I wonder how long until she remember how she did it in the first place?
Roz - nice to "see" you - been wondering where you were off to. Your mom is great for saying that!
Jody - ugh, the flu. Hope you all feel better soon. I often feel like puking when Katie does - can't imagine how bad it is when you actually are sick!
Michelle - lovely pics of Molly. She looks so grown up sitting on the stairs! Congrats on losing the weight too! I definitely need to improve my diet after the holidays --- too much junk food these days!
Hannah - I used to listen to NPR on the way to work every day. I feel so out of touch these days....
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 22:00:25 pm
Anyone remember jack handy's deep thought from SNL? I am kinda reminding myself of him... :roll: :oops: And there's more!
Lots of commenst and ?'s for you gals today.
Anyone an indoor plant guru? I have (what used to be) a beautiful huge ficus tree that is slowly dying (or so it seems)...any ideas?
Has anyone tried hummus with their lo? I want to make some today for myself and Sophie but I'm not sure how much garlic to add (if any?)?
Food ideas (of I haven't already shared them) Sophie is loving the scarmbled egg deal...one egg yolk+ebm or formula (just a tad) in the mcirowave about 20-25 seconds. I cool it in the fridge then cut it into medium sized pieces and serve as finger food. She loves picking it up. It seems I can give her bigger chunks and since it's fluffy there's no prob. with choking.
Also, she is LOVING the toast with melted cheese. Acts like she is eating a gourmet meal, smacks her lips, VERY vocal..mah num mah num mah num mah num....pushes other things out of the way to get to the bread and cheese....you get the picture..
Have you ladies been experiencing the constant little injuries? Head bumps/face bumps etc.? What have you been doing? I have basically been letting her "self-soothe" a little. (Unless she's really hurt and crying for help) Mostly I just say "Ouch it sounds like that hurt. I'm sorry you bumped your head...." Something like that. Not that I am trying to be a mean mom but I realized that I was sort of rushing to her and picking her up everytime she had a little bonk and I really don't want to do that. Any thoughts on that subject?
Also, I have been enjoying watching her explore the house...book shelves etc. I love Judy's thoughts about how "it's their house too" so I have designated the bottom shelves etc for her toys and moved out a few things but left most things and I just watch her and move her along if anything seems too dangerous (kind of like you were saying Roz) I guess I'm not into using "No" yet...but should I be? As I have said before, they do grow up so fast...it's hard to keep up.
Finally (I promise) I was cleaning today (Woopeee!)...I finally decided that ANY cleaning is better than NO cleaning so I had better get off my tush and do a little...I think watching SOphie explore the house has seriously motivted me...she is the best dust bunny/food crumb/cob web finder...eeeewwwww. Anyhow so I changed the sheets and all of the pillows and comforter were on the floor in the bedroom in a pile and she was having a Ball carwling "over the mountains" :) Soooo Although I did not fingure out how to do my husdband and change my sheets at the same time (reference to a multitasking disucssion in chat last night) I did figure out how to do the sheets and play with my child :)
OKey Dokey that's all for now.
:oops:
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 22:03:12 pm
Erin we posted at the same time and you reminded me I wanted to say to Jody I hope that you and your bubs feel better soon.
Also wanted to say it was nice to see you back on Roz.
And...Naomi always nice to hear from you sweetie...Glad Ri is doing a bit better.
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 22:06:55 pm
I forgot to say lol about katie and the blinds.(as long as she's ok of course)...good luck getting the crib lowered asap :)
Hannah
Post by: becca24 on December 22, 2005, 22:52:06 pm
JOdy - Love the pug's name - how cool is that. My mum really wants to get another pug but I am afraid my dogs will eat it so she will have to wait!!
Lisa - hope James is feeling better - I forgot to tell you I love your dogs name too - Smitty - LOL that is soooo aussie 8)
Hannah - I am with you on the 'in love' feeling. You know that butterflies in your tummy feeling you get when you first meet someone? I get that all the time with Halle! :D Sometimes I get the 'you are driving me up the wall feeling too :wink: Also I am in love with DH even more when we have big family cuddles and he call us 'his girls' :D 8) (where is the love heart emoticon)
Also, love that idea about the bottom shelf on the bookshelf. Not many books on mine these days as I haven't bought one since March (hmmm i wonder why?) (oops except BWSAYP of course). I am going to clear it for her today!! She is not crawling yet but burns over to the bookshelf in her walker all the time.
BTW remember how bog is another word for poo?? Well bonk has another meaning too :wink:
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 22:57:57 pm
I know what you mean about dh and his girls..I like that too.
And..one more thing..I also get that "you're drving me up the wall" feeling too...like today with a 45 minute afternoon nap and she is literally climbing the walls (trying to pull up on everything)
Hannah
Post by: becca24 on December 22, 2005, 23:12:08 pm
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 22, 2005, 23:17:52 pm
Hiya Roz and welcome back!! It's so hard to catch up when you miss a day or two. Kudos to your Mom, sounds very accommodating and accepting of your BW ways. The IL's sound terrible!! :shock: What is up with them?? How rude and ignorant, maybe they are related to that woman who commented to Micky before the flight with Jack!! Judy is so right about not getting worked up about it, don't stoop to their level that's for sure. What does DH say about their treatment of you?? Big fat hugs to you!!
Erin - got your card today and scrumptious pics of Katie. Very adorable!! Hope she keeps those color eyes!! Her name suits her so well...Katie Rose. Very sweet.
Hannah - LOL @ your comment about me eating the turtle brownies during chat last night!! They will catch up next week I'm sure! I am also constantly falling in head-over-heels love with both of my bubs. It's such a feeling that you can't explain until you have kids. Thanks for the egg yolk idea. I want to try some different foods with Molly and that sounds pretty easy and non-chokeable for babes with no teeth yet!! I changed the bed linens today too and let Molls on the comforter mountain on the floor!! Too funny.
Bec - same here when DH says "how did my girls do today?" Just gives me butterflies all over again. :lol:
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 23:20:54 pm
Post by: becca24 on December 22, 2005, 23:28:42 pm
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/TopicsDateKey/Aug2000#4
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 22, 2005, 23:34:41 pm
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 22, 2005, 23:36:57 pm
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"Ouch it sounds like that hurt. I'm sorry you bumped your head...." Something like that. Not that I am trying to be a mean mom but I realized that I was sort of rushing to her and picking her up everytime she had a little bonk and I really don't want to do that. Any thoughts on that subject?
That's pretty much what I used to/do say to Nathan. If he was totally unfazed by it I wouldn't say anything. If he cried I wouldn't do a "poor baby" type of reply but more what you put above. Can't believe none of these things are an issue for us yet! :shock: 8)
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Also, I have been enjoying watching her explore the house...book shelves etc. I love Judy's thoughts about how "it's their house too" so I have designated the bottom shelves etc for her toys and moved out a few things but left most things and I just watch her and move her along if anything seems too dangerous (kind of like you were saying Roz) I guess I'm not into using "No" yet...but should I be?
I think your approach is great, it's all about redirection at this stage. Even if you were saying "no" she probably wouldn't remember or have the control to not do it next time (or even 20 times later) - I personally think it's a big waste of energy doing that. Easier to move out of the way what you don't want touched, anything else you can let her have a little play with and then move on and she'll probably get bored of that after a few weeks/months anyway.
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Actually MIL made me this vase and it's dog ugly so maybe I should let her play with it
LOL, I have a huge clock that FIL gave us as a wedding present with the words "here's a gift to make an heirloom"! Eeek, how do I get rid of it, I'm hoping for an earthquake and for it to fall off the wall (not that I really want to wish that on us!). And if that doesn't deal to it, I'll help...or maybe that too can be propped up in my firebox for next winter...
Gotta go, it's lunchtime and both are looking like they're finished.
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 22, 2005, 23:54:43 pm
We had 2 laundry baskets overflowing with presents for the family plus the pack n play, stroller clothes for all of us, Carter's food etc etc etc. Unfortunatley we had to take it all out of the car in order to get to the pack n play. Too bad we are only staying one night and have to repack and then unpack it all again tomorrow.
Richelle & Michelle: Yes the Peanut Butter Blossoms do sound delicious! I too am a peanut butter hound and during my third trimester I lived on peanut butter chocolate chip sandwiches!!! My OB said it was okay because going into the 3rd trimester I had only gained like 10lbs :oops: (total at end of preg was 17lbs - must have been the sandwiches!). I make something called peanut butter balls at Christmas which I absolutely love! DH ends up taking them all to work though so I don't get very many. I would love the recipe for the blossoms though!
Micky: Wow ... definitely what a trooper!! Glad he was so good on the plane. Some people's comments eh? When my Dr told me Benadryl would make my baby sleepy I asked him "how much do I need to give?!" :lol:
Jody: So sorry about the flu ... and over Christmas. Hope everything works out for you and that you are all feeling better soon. BTW I LOVE your dogs name! Very distinguished. I didn't get to name either of my pets but I did kinda change my cats... He is Ollie Furr (previously just Ollie) but now he is shaved so he is Ollis No Furr!! He is a persian/Himalayan mix. My dog already had the name Boss and since DH works on mustangs it just fit!!
I got cards from Bec and Macaire today! Thank you!! I hope all of mine are being received. I mailed them over a week ago. I think the international ones will be late but the US and Canadian ones should be there by now!
When Carter falls and hurts himself I wait to see if he is really going to cry or not. I have taken to saying uh oh esp when he is doing something that will hurt him but now he looks at me and goes "uh uh uh oh uh" so I don't think it is very effective!!!
Hope everyone has a great night! I hope I get to have a good night. Carter rarely sleeps in his pack and play plus he will be in the room with us so Dh and I can't make any noise :( :roll:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 23, 2005, 00:25:17 am
Post by: solnme on December 23, 2005, 00:25:50 am
Wow Cathy - you only gained 17lbs and ate PB & chocolate chip sands.? I attempted to eat right and gained almost 50! (still got 8lbs to go)
I'm doing the same thing when Sol hurts himself. Unbelievable how resilient these little babies are. Sometimes I think he's going to howl and I'm all ready to run to him and he only gives out a little whimper.
I've had to try really, really hard not to tell him "You're ok" when he's gotten really upset.(Thank you Nikki & Judy) If he was ok he wouldn't be screaming so who am I to tell him how he should feel.
Bec- LOL about the vase.
Jody - hope you guys are feeling better soon. BTW, thanks for making me dry heave with the puke stories. Body fluids, Yuk :wink:
All these pets with cute names. Makes me miss my kitty. She was a real diva and couldn't share the spotlight with Sol. She's happy and healthy at the ILs. Next time around I'm definetly going for a dog.
LOL about Katie and the blinds! 8)
Does 'bonk' mean what I think it means?
I just love the family cuddle. :D Especially on Saturday mornings when there's no time limit. I think I'll go get one right now.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 23, 2005, 00:27:26 am
Post by: Judy on December 23, 2005, 00:30:46 am
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She insists that Arwyn is freezing her little a$$ off, no matter what I have her in and she nags and nags and nags, non-stop about it and even phones me to continue the nagging after she has left from her visit.
Seems to me Arwyn would be the best judge of whether or not she's too cold or too hot. She's more than capable of expressing her discomfort. Heck she can use sign language at 8months for milk - surely she knows to complain if she's cold.
My mom is often telling me that the older girls are 'going to hurt the baby' and I always say "she'll let me know if she's not happy"
Michelle great picture of Molly on the stairs. If I put K or H on the stairs like that and stepped back to take a pic they'd be on their faces on the floor. Actually I probably wouldn't even have time to step back!! :)
Roz - I love your mom!! She sounds amazing! Weird that her friend felt she had to keep an eye on Sol in YOUR house. ??
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The IL's are a different story. Since we're spending Xmas with my family (which we do every year) I guess they are a little hurt. I cooked dinner for them the other night and was overwhelmed with all the back-handed comments about how Sol must like my family so much since he sees them all the time, and how important grandparents are during the holidays. Twisted Evil Then they brought out the camera and took a bunch of pictures of just DH and Sol. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Then sent the pictures to us this morning addressed to Ken (DH)Rolling Eyes
I agree with Judy that it's so not worth getting myself worked up over it anymore. Especially when I can come on line and vent. Thanks
They're just trying to get back at you because you have the power in the relationship (and the grandson :)). With the 'he must like your family better" comments... I'd agree "yeah he is pretty fond of them" (ok so that's my smarta$$ side - maybe that's mean. but stop with all the passive aggressive crap. (I'm so glad I have all girls :) I'll be the grandma who gets all the grankids' time - I HOPE!!)
Post by: Richelle on December 23, 2005, 02:01:01 am
PEANUT BUTTER BLOSSOMS
1 c. sugar
1 c. butter
2 eggs
2 tsp. vanilla
1 tsp. salt
2 (10 oz. pkg.) Hershey Kisses
1 c. brown sugar
1 c. creamy peanut butter
1/4 c. milk
3 1/2 c. flour
2 tsp. baking soda
Mix all ingredients above except Kisses. Shape in medium size balls and roll in sugar. Place on ungreased cookie sheet. Bake at 375 degrees for 8 to 10 minutes, place 1 kiss on each blossom while still hot and VOILA! If you wait a few minutes to have one that is when they are the best as the kiss is completely melted.
I used caramel kisses this year, I know very risque :wink: and well, they are VERY yummy!
Post by: kate585 on December 23, 2005, 02:01:24 am
Roz, so great to see you back!
Cathy/Micky, how on Earth are you girls finding time to post on the road? You've inspired me to be better when I'm at my mom's next week. Although last time I was there and was lurking here, I gave her some sort of virus or something and totally screwed up her computer. :oops:
Jody, sorry you all are sick...glad to see that your sense of humor is still in tact! 8) Get well soon!!!
Nikki, good luck with Danielle. She's so smart she'll get this moving thing in no time. Watch out, Nathan!
Hannah, we ARE best friends! Ryan has all the bottom shelves here, too. (Except up in the office where I just moved the bookshelf. :oops: Easy way out, I guess, but there were just too many "good" books for our guests). I have attached a picture below of Ryan playing his new favorite game of pull ALL the books off the bookshelf. I could just eat that little tush of his! :D (Dh said, "Looks like he's getting a bit chunky below the belt there." :roll: )
Hayley, thanks for the updated picture of Daniel in his box. Gave me the idea when this empty tub was upstairs. He loves it and it gives me a few minutes off of chasing him away from the tree! :lol:
So excited because today we made my favorite Christmas cookies and tomorrow the girl across the street is coming to sit with Ryan while I finish my shopping. This girl loves Ryan so much and pretty much begs me every time I see her to let her babysit. She even offered to do it for free. :) (Don't worry, I'll pay her.) She does a great job and I can't wait to get my last minute errands done baby free! :D :D :D
Post by: Olivia's Mommy on December 23, 2005, 03:02:35 am
We leave first thing in the morning for our 10-hour trip with Olivia and my grandma. It should be interesting. I'm taking my laptop, so hopefully I'll be able to check in sometime over the trip.
Post by: mickymuscles on December 23, 2005, 04:08:28 am
LOL bec at the website!! :) Kate I think that explains how I'm finding time to post while away from home. :wink: And I love the title you gave to Ryan in the box! :D
Roz and Nancy good to see you back!
I must have missed the posts about the pet names...I've gotta give my furballs their 15 min. of fame. We have Tiga-she's a big sucky talker-German Shep X , Max-thinks he's an 80 lb lap dog-Rottwieller (settlement from loser-ex), Miko-prissiest kitty around, and Fiasco-his name says it all-beauty of a ginger kitty. :) Cathy-I've boarded them all over x-mas while I'm away....and I miss them too. :(
I hope I can join the chat tomorrow without drawing too much attention. :oops: 8) You know your addicted when.....:)
talk to you all later!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 23, 2005, 04:41:19 am
Nancy, good luck with your long trip.
OK, so here's the update on what's been happening with my mum and SD. I phoned my mum this morning to see about us going over for a visit, she was busy, but said come this afternoon I'd love to see you ( :shock: ) - I'm thinking she felt a bit bad with our convo the other night. So I said "well as long as there are no snide remarks made about my parenting", she said "you are a fantastic mum and have done a really good job with the kids", so ok, I said yep, well I've received a few strange comments blah blah, see you later.
Anyway, we turn up, all is well, then SD brings up the debacle from the other day after asking me "so how has Nathan been?" and then went on to how giving NAthan the "choice" of time out or his knee and how effective that was. So I took the opportunity to say that we didn't do time outs anymore. "so what are you doing instead", well I started to explain that the more we actually eased up on less controlling....well at that point I lost them :roll: :x - SD gets up and says he needs to go wind up the car windows because it's about to rain, my mum starts to overtalk me and talk to NAthan and Danielle :shock: and everytime I started up again she'd talk over me (I tried about how generally it's the parents idea of what's not right as to why we rein kids in etc)! So I dropped it. Anyway, it planted the seed and at least they know that's not our way anymore.
A funny, my mum brought out an ethnic stick thing which was filled with seeds and made this cool noise when tipped upside down and showed Nathan. Anyway, she let him play with it for about 30secs, then took it off him and propped it up against the wall. Why? Anyway, he grabs it again a few minutes later and I see my mum look like she was about to tell him to put it away so I said to him "hey, what a cool noise that makes huh?" and engaged him in playing with it. Evil huh?
So, I saw the bag that the book was kept in, my mum said there was an exchange card for one of the ones I knew she'd brought me, but I didn't have the nerve to ask if that meant there was one for the other book she was talking about! :lol:
Post by: Judy on December 23, 2005, 04:55:34 am
Too bad Nikki your parents didn't listen to what you had to say. But as you said, they know now that you are approaching things differently. It will take some time for them to come round - I mean if they aren't respectful enough to listen to you - an adult... they aren't likely ready to have a lot of respect for children - who ARE people too!! But good for you for bringing it up and letting them know you weren't interested in any snide remarks about your parenting. :)
Still can't wait to find out about this book. You'll be posting right away right?
LOVE the pic of Ryan at the bookshelf!! And - Snuggle Puppy! Love that book. Zoe used to sing it (we have the Sandra Boynton cd - Philadelphia Chickens - COOL!!) anyway she sang it when she was 1.5-2yrs old "ooooooooooo Puppy! Oooooooooooooo Puppy a mine!!" :)
Boy I'm really thinking these little ladies here are slackin off... look at all these babies standing, sitting up so well. I guess I've been lazy lying them on the floor - course then they are crowded by their big sisters so there's no moving going on. I need to get them practicing sitting up more and then standing a bit. Maybe I should poke them the way Nikki did Danielle <chuckling> I mean tickle them ;) They do need some encouragement I guess and more practice. Sitting them up at the same time can be tricky though when they topple... if they're too close they bonk heads! Maybe I should say clunk heads - wasn't bonk used in a totally different, Australian context earlier?? :oops:
Wow Nancy, 10hours!! You['re a brave woman. We once drove 6hours with Zoe and haven't done anything even close to that since... I'm not sure we have the nerve to try. A 2hour trip with Zoe and Sarah made us weak in the knees and since Kaia and Hannah have come along, gosh :oops: we've RARELY driven further than 30min. away. Good luck!!
Get well soon Jody!! How completely icky to all be sick!!!
Tracy, have you moved that computer back yet?
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 23, 2005, 05:42:09 am
I love the snuggle puppy book too! Don't think we get it here, but a fellow BWer sent it to Nathan for his 1st birthday.
LOL at K&H not moving, yep, give them a prod, worked well. :wink: I know what you mean about not have the opportunities to work with them though, I think our problem was that I relied on the infant seat A LOT more this time around. And since she's such a content baby, didn't mind just sitting in there and observing life.
Danielle's never been on a trip longer than 45mins either and it's been MANY months since she's been on a trip that long.
Okey doke, have a lovely Christmas everyone, we're not going away, so will be checking in.
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 23, 2005, 06:18:07 am
Face plants, topple overs, etc. DH and I have not ever made a big deal out of her falling over if it is just a tiny little bump. If she really hurts herself and cries, then we pick her up and say, "Be more careful." and she calms down right away. Now, she doesn't even expect to be picked up when she falls... only if it is not her own fault. i.e. DH pulled her arm the other day and caused her to clonk her head on the floor and she wailed and wanted to be picked up and cuddled.
We do use "no" around the house when Arwyn does something we don't want her to do. We always have an explanation... usually that it is dangerous. Otherwise, she is allowed to do anything that is reasonable in her play area (other than chew on her play mat, which causes the coating to come off) and in the bath (other than stand up in the water).
About saying "no"... in the Restitution workshops I have attended, they use a technique called, "Yes, but..." You don't actually say, "yes, but" that is only the name of it. How it works is, when your child asks to do something... say, go shopping with friends. If you feel like saying no, there are reasons behind it and to have your child understand, the conversation can start off like... "I really want to say yes to you but I feel like saying no. Let's see how we can problem solve this." Then the next step is to explain your reasons for saying no and engaging your child in helping problem solve. "When you go out with your friends, I need to know how long you will be out and when I can expect you home. What can we/you do to meet this need?"
Of course, not every situation would be cause for this type of discussion. You probably have family values and expectations that all family members are expected to meet. In our household, not everything will be up for negotiation... DH and I have agreed on that. Sometimes, the line is drawn and that's firm. Let's see if I eat my words when Arwyn becomes EEK, a Teenager!
Nikki... I have a rain stick too... I never even thought of bringing that out for Arwyn to play with. They are very cool... will try it tomorrow. And why, did your mum let Nathan play with it for 30 seconds only to take it away? Just silly. Pique a child's curiosity so that you can squish it?? harumph. My parents on the other hand, give Arwyn the dishes in a restaurant to play with. I don't recall being allowed to do this when I was a child?? Grandparent's perogative coming into play here?
Have a great chat girls... another dinner to go to... I am SO sad I am missing yet another chat. I really have not had a good visit with you all in a long time!
Post by: solnme on December 23, 2005, 07:13:44 am
Kate - who's got a cute pootie? Who? Who? I'm such a butt junkie!
Richelle - guess what I'm gonna make for my nieces this week?
Nikki - way to plant the seed. Your parents have no choice but to hear you eventually.
Traci - can you hear me?
I'll miss the chat tomorrow night but will for sure be online while I'm away. Oh yeah... so addicted.
Good night!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 23, 2005, 07:37:44 am
Roz... awesome mum comment. Sol is one lucky little man.
Nancy... brave woman to drive 10 hours. Arwyn pretty much cries door to door so I don't brave drives longer than 20 minutes.
Richelle... thanks for the recipe.
Judy... I don't remember if I commented already but that is a gorgeous family picture you posted.
Okay... gotta get meself some sleep!
Sheesh... memory like a sieve... Hannah... your ficus... is it sticky with sap? If so, it could have scales and that is killing it. Both my ficus plants had them and have both died. :cry:
Post by: Richelle on December 23, 2005, 13:24:52 pm
Nancy - ummmmmm 10 hours?
Nikki - My friends DD got a kids rain stick for her 1st birthday, it was the 1st gift she opened and they couldn't get her interested in opening any other presents!!
Hannah - http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/tree/ficus.htm this may help answer some of your ficus questions! Injuries here are ALL the time, I swear this kid is fearless, launchs her self from anything, it is always a case of diving head first, ask questions later. She is a little leary of our new pool, which is very chilly so I sat her on the edge to get used to it and thought she would stay there holding my hand, before I knew it she had launched herself off the side and I barely caught her before her head went under (don't want any ear infections until she is completely over this cold). Our house is tiled so that always means some manner of OUCH every few minutes and I always go give her a hug.
Ankie - I am really struggling with the whole NO thing. It has turned into OMG, when Sophie is 'into' something. I like the discussion approach but still - I guess it is the creativity part that Nikki and Judy are talking about that I am lacking.
Kate - I LOVELOVELOVE your pics of Ryan - adorable!
Where in the heck is Traci - we all took a vote and decided you should move your PC back down to the dining room table!
Post by: Erin M on December 23, 2005, 14:56:10 pm
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I don't recall being allowed to do this when I was a child?? Grandparent's perogative coming into play here?
Along similar lines, my mom and dad were babysitting for my nephews the other day and my mom let her 2.5 year old wear his underwear on the outside of his jeans...and put his other pair of underwear on his 11 month old baby (outside his pants too). Definitely don't recall anything like that when I was little. Turns out they were "reward" undies for my nephew when he finally figures out the potty thing, so my sister was less than pleased. Oh well...
Kate - love the pics!
To the rest of you -- will be heading to my parents' later on today (only 1.5 hours - fingers crossed no traffic as they live on the other side of New York City from us), so won't be checking in as much (oh, who am I kidding?). Will see about chat tonight!
Post by: Judy on December 23, 2005, 16:14:12 pm
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Ankie - I am really struggling with the whole NO thing. It has turned into OMG, when Sophie is 'into' something. I like the discussion approach but still - I guess it is the creativity part that Nikki and Judy are talking about that I am lacking.
Richelle it really is a process and I think starting when they are so young is so much better for you and them. I can't speak for Nikki but it's hard to shift gears, you get into a pattern of communicating with someone and it's hard to change and hard for them when suddenly things are different. But I remind myself that it's easier still at 2 or 3 than at 9 or 10. Heck yesterday I needed to find a way to keep the girls amused and willing to stay awake through the 2.30-4.30 hours so I broke out a 1000 pc puzzle I bought for ME (they love puzzles but theirs are more like 30pcs). Anyway I was on the phone with a friend and the girls started throwing the pieces up in the air and then scattering them off the table (very small pcs too) and I was getting frustrated thinking "great I'm gonna loose 3 pcs before I even get it started" so I said "Zoe are you going to stop that or do you need to go to your room?" It's no sooner out of my mouth and I'm rolling my eyes at myself and my friend says "Hey!! I thought you weren't doing the timeout thing anymore?!!!" sometimes it's so knee-jerk for me - so much better when I'm prepared ahead of time. Talking is great but sometimes they don't stop to listen and that frustrates me. I need to step back and relax. But it is hard, takes lots of energy. AND I'm very honest with them, I'll apologize for yelling if it happens and I'll sometimes even say "look I know there should be a better way of working this out but right now I can't think of what it is. So for now... " maybe it's putting them in a chair when they hit each other or something. I really don't have a better solution and maybe they could help me find one... but for now something has to happen and my creativity isn't working for me. So I explain that to them.
It's easier to work with Zoe than Sarah , just for the communication alone. Well and personality. Sarah is very focused and has no interest in what you are saying at times. That frustrates me. But sometimes if I ask Zoe ahead of time about something she'll give me some ideas and if we implement them it really helps. They like to shower sometimes but it often ends up with lots of screaming and tears on their part so the other day I said to Zoe that she could have a shower but it often takes a long time and has a lot of crying and screaming and how could we make it go smoother? Well she gave me ideas and we did them and it was easy as could be.
Ankie thanks for telling us more about the Restitution workshops and your school's approach to discipline. Very interesting! :)
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 23, 2005, 16:33:39 pm
Richelle..Also thanks for the website on ficus'( fici ?) It has loads of helpful info! :? We'll see if I can save old Benny..
And the peanut butter blossoms...love em...gonna make em.
OMG Ryan's boody is soooo boodylicious! Sophie and Ryan are such early readers eh?
See you all at the chat tonight...
crikey! baby trying to play guitar...
Hannah
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 23, 2005, 17:25:23 pm
The other night I went out after Sophie went to sleep to get a little Xmas shopping done. Before I left, dh was explaining some work things to me, was really stressed and had opened a bottle of wine. I was trying to be sympathetic but sometimes I think I just sort of zone out because he talks about work a lot and I guess I'm just not always that good of a listener...I have my own things to think about etc...plus, I am a problem solver by nature and he seems to have the same issues over and over and I offer suggestions for solutions but the issues never seem to get resolved (mostly not his fault I guess??)
So I left to do a little shopping. I came home at about 9:30 and he started to tell me play by play about how Sophie woke up crying hard. He went in to do pu/pd but she wouldn't settle. So he came downstairs with her to get a frozen binky but there wasn't one in the freezer so on their way back upstairs, she started reaching for a bottle that was left on the entry way table and he figured "oh she must be hungry" so he fed it to her...Soooo the whole time he's telling me all of this I am thinking #1 we don't FEED her in the night anymore and #2 I don't even know how long that bottle was sitting there...I may have left it there from who knows when...so I try to take a deep breath and not just unload. I say "Honey, it sounds like you dealt with it well. I just want to check in with you that you know that we are not feeding her at night anymore..." Well he just looses it. Ugh!
He basically gets really angry at me for correcting him, thinks I treat him like a child etc etc...
I didn't back down though..you know? I get really sick of having to tip toe around the whole "how we do things with Sophie" issue...it's like Look either you are on board with the bw stuff or not and if you are great then be on board...if you're not then lets find something that works for US....finally we got to the real root of the problem which is he is stressed at work, thinks he is going to have to be working even more long hours than he already is, hates the fact that this means he gets less time to spend with "his girls", and is just absolutely worn out. I had said to him earlier "I just don't feel like I had any time to myself today" Well..he told me that he almost lost it when he heard that (he had tears in his eyes while telling me this) He was like it is so hard for me to hear you say you need more time for yourself when you get to spend all day with Sophie. He says he would give anything to trade places some days.
Needless to say I felt bad for dh. I can totally understand. It kills me that his job sort of trumps mine in terms of hours (he stays late...I leave as early as possible even though I still have more work to do) and stress (he could get let go, I have job security) to perform. He is really good at what he does but he does not have a degree. He worked his way up and I think he feels very insecure about it sometimes.
So, thanks for listenning to that. I guess I feel like I can be really selfish sometimes and I think it is important to be that way...or at least to take care of one's self. I think dh could really take a lesson from me and do a little more for himself so that he can feel good. At one point in our conversation I told him to quit playing the victum...nobody else can take responsibility for how he is feeling...he has to take it. I also need to learn a lesson from him and be greatful for the time I have with dd instead of complaining (as I did while I was back in the classroom) about how much work it is to take care of her. It is a work of love.
It feels a little 50's style for me to be thinking...ok I guess I am going to have to hunker down and support my husband. If he needs to work lots of hours I will pick up the slack at home....in a weird way though I am really ok with that. Anyone experience anything similar? I have never been a "stand by your man" kind of person. I have always been more of a "take care of and look out for #1" type...which I still am but I am seeing the other side of things a little now too.
Thanks again for listening. I really needed to get that out.
Hannah
Post by: Judy on December 23, 2005, 18:18:12 pm
Sarah is currently doing laps around the house - the whole adorable 2yr old swishing of the legs, hips and arms as she runs - you know, runnign while twisting the trunk of the bod? So funny. The other night she hightailed it outa bed when she was supposed to be going TO bed... sooo funny, she's got socks on and is slipping and sliding on the wood floor but trying to go as fast as she can to get away - screeching with glee the whole way - I could do nothing but laugh - well and hope she made the turn through the kitchen doorway tot he living room without smashing into the doorframe :)
Ok I'm supposed to be cleaning, making pies, making cookies for Santa, finishing up some presents... the list goes on.. and instead I'm here!! Ladies STOP being so interesting!
Where the he!! is Tracy anyway? Do I need to drive to Toronto and move that computer myself lady?
Post by: Colesmom on December 23, 2005, 18:27:37 pm
hope everyone is well!
Post by: Erin M on December 23, 2005, 19:04:59 pm
Have to run, but we can talk more about this if you want!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 23, 2005, 19:20:20 pm
Hannah, yes it is teamwork and things just change when you become a family, I do the majority of housework type stuff (washing, cleaning, kitchen etc), not because it's 50's style, but I do treat it as my job and both me and DH are basically "working" until both kids are in bed in some shape or form. There's no sit down and relax until that's happened - it could be either of us doing bath or cooking dinner, but either way it all happens. I too never thought I'd be the one doing all that stuff, but that's the way it goes. Hope you sort things out with DH.
Richelle
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Zoe are you going to stop that or do you need to go to your room?" It's no sooner out of my mouth and I'm rolling my eyes at myself and my friend says "Hey!! I thought you weren't doing the timeout thing anymore?!!!" sometimes it's so knee-jerk for me - so much better when I'm prepared ahead of time.
Yes, it takes a lot for me to change the patterns I've built up, they're so ingrained in me that it takes a lot of work and creativity to be thinking ahead of time to head off a problem. It happened to us yesterday: I was at the park with the kids, Nathan decided to roam out of the playground, no problem, headed off towards a yucky looking empty sports building and around the back where the toilets were, well the way it may have been better for me to deal with it was to head him off prior to him going towards it and distract him and "create" fun elsewhere, but what happened was he got too close, decided that's what he wanted, I yell "STOP", doesn't listen, keeps running, "STOP, you will come here now or we will need to go home" (threats). "NO" from him. Now on the face of it this is "normal" type scenario that you see all the time and yes I did need to stop him from running around into the toilets and where I couldn't see him, but where things were lacking was me heading it off before it got to that point, actually would have been the easier option and no yelling from either of us, because then we got into a battle of wills and it wasn't going to be me who was going to stand down since I'd started that and I needed to follow through at least (so I basically did have to work hard to convince him that we needed to leave). The problem is, I really saw a change in both our behaviours afterwards as well, his face got a little hard and scowly until I managed to distract him enough and start to have fun again - it is soooo easy to get into a constant frame of mind to always be saying no, you feel hard, they feel defiant etc etc.
So, I just chalk it down to a learning experience and move on and not dwell on it.
Well, Nathan slept right through the night last night without a peep - completely! Didn't muck around at bedtime and actually slept in till 6.10 instead of 5.10 - woohoo! Just had to celebrate that, they are so few and far between. :D :shock: Danielle woke once at 4am and I fed her, didn't want to risk her waking Nathan which often happens... :? I think she may have been a bit chilly too.
Well, it's Saturday morning here now, so tomorrow our Christmas Day will be over when a lot of you will still be on Christmas Eve, weird huh? Santa would have left the Southern Hemisphere and making his way up to you all. :wink:
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 23, 2005, 20:36:24 pm
Like the look of the recipe. Yum. Thanks Richelle.
Kate, I love the box photo, and the title..... soooo funny. DH thought so too.
Nikki, good start with your mum and SD, you've gotta plant the seed then let the tree blossom so to speak.
Hannah, sounds like you're working thru things, and that's what matters. Better to do that, than have things bottle up and then explode.
Judy, I"m picturing this cute little girl running thru the house, hard to believe it won't be long and we'll all be experiencing this too. Awwwww (insert soppy emoticon here)
Bye for now.
Post by: Colesmom on December 23, 2005, 22:22:50 pm
i WILL be at chat tonight. GUARANTEED. I need my fix.
On a positive note, DH came home early last night so I could go to my company Christmas party. It was nice to get OUT. I had a cosmo before dinner :D
Cole woke 4 times before 11, then slept til 1:45, I fed him...think might be 9 month growth spurt and slept until 5:30. YAY, because i went to sleep at midnight.
okay girlies, really must wake my boy.
miss you all sooooo much. for those that won't be around much (like me) over the weekend, have a great holiday weekend.
Post by: Colesmom on December 24, 2005, 02:26:16 am
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/DSCN1490.jpg)
and my smuggies beautiful blue eyes
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/TraciandCole/DSCN1491.jpg)
Post by: Richelle on December 24, 2005, 04:24:18 am
I just got back from a 'girls' Christmas party and thought ohhh I hope I am in time for my 'other' girls. I went directly to chat without collecting $200 and it is all, well strangers - I feel like a little kid, I just left :oops: ! I will only pass up precious sleep for you ladies :lol: ! I know it is Christmas Eve for half of us and a busy time but come on, where is everyone!!
Michelle - I forgot earlier but basically I came to the Cayman Islands to party/wakeboard/bartend/pay off student loan and I guess when I accomplished that I met DH fell in love/got hitched/knocked up and I suppose we are working on the next list. I was born and raised in Saskatchewan - AND proud of it!
Traci - Cole is soooooo cute - what a cute tooshie! My SIL always says as soon as they "free willy", my nephew has a pee so only does it outside. I had thought perhaps it was a boy thing but now seeing all this cutie buns 'indoors' maybe it is just Jack.
Micky - that reminds me that I keep forgetting to say that we got my nephew Jack the same Speed Racer car that your Jack got!! I hope he is not too big for it! Also I have all the pic's I have gotten in the cards on the fridge, I got your card 1st so I put Jackson's picture up and DH said "Why does Jack look so different?"...DUH..cuz it isn;t OUR Jack but still funny.
Ankie - DH also asked if Arwyn was Sophie :roll: I know he is looking pretty dense at this point but I promise he isn;t! I am part Metis so people tell me that my eyes look Asian and Sophie has my exact eyes so I suppose I can see where that comes from.
It is neat for me to have Sophie look so much like me and I probably dwell on it a bit b/c I am adopted and have never looked like anyone in my family. Although I got that I look like my dad sometimes b/c we have a very similar cultural background.
Which also brings me back to the discipline discussion again. I think that my mom did alot of UP because she felt she had to because they had tried so hard to have a baby and then waited so long to adopt my older brother and then me, KWIM? She was so thankful and a very intelligent/progressive woman who had no parenting style/model to choose from in her situation as she was not really considered a 'mom' at the time, was refused maternity leave or any government tax cuts ect...
I had no idea how hard it must have been for her at the time until I had a baby and thought of all the support I did and DIDN'T have. It was and never has been a "thing" that I am adopted, I don't remeber ever being told, I have always just known and have always been very thankful that the woman that had me made such a selfless decision. DH and others seem to think it is mysterious and can;t believe I am not interested in meeting my birth mother - I have one mom and that is plenty thanks!
Anyway, I think that the UP approach that my mom unknowingly did has hurt me as well as help me. I know I am a very grounded and independent person because I have always known my mom would be there no matter what. I know that I am an intelligent person because I have always been made to help solve the problems rather than be a part of them... BUT I feel it has made me a fairly self-involved person. I found it exceedingly BUT less and less difficult to be denied something and when I have been denied something I have compensated elsewhere. Example: I failed my first exam EVER in 1st year geology, I was hung over(not taking school seriously b/c I didn;t believe there would be a consequence) and marked all 250 answers TRUE and was aghast that I had failed and couldn't come up with a reason to convince the prof to let me redo the exam. WHy would I expect such consideration? That night I think I decided I could control MYSELF if nothing else and drank WAY too much and woke up somewhere starange...VERYSCARY!! I know strange example but anyone see where I am going with this? I really don;t think I was set up well enough to deal with the 'real world', maybe that was a failing on my part and it really hasn't been that bad but I think basically i could have matured easier and faster if...
After all that I haven;t told you yet! My mom was 43 and thought she was experiencing menopause and 'went' with the feelings of heat, nausea, dizziness, sore boobs..see where this is headed and yes found out that she was expecting! :shock: :P :lol: ! They could not explain why/how ect... but there we had it! I got a baby brother when I was 12, he is Sophies Godfather.
Sorry for rambling..does any of that make sense? Again talking about it I feel so self involved and just feel like I am at back home, given every consideration and a set of ears at all times ect...but then my dad threw a wrench in things but this is long enough......
Post by: kate585 on December 24, 2005, 05:40:33 am
Judy/Nikki, we loooove Snugglepuppy here. Whenever Ryan pulls all the books down (2-3 times a day depending on if I've gotten the energy to put them back for him to pull right down :roll: ), he always stops at Snugglepuppy. He looks at it, opens it, licks it. :? I think it's b/c it's dh's favorite to read to him. It is so cute! (Reminds me of Taylor, Andrea.)
Traci, I told you at chat, but that kid is so freakin' cute! Lovin' the booty shot!!! And, if you do get to go back and read the 53 pages you missed, you'll see that we were all missing you like crazy! All we want for Christmas is for you to move your PC, to move your PC, to move your PC. (Anyone? Two front teeth? Get it? :lol: )
Merry, Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!!!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 24, 2005, 05:45:03 am
So far behind. It has been a whirlwind few days with Christmas prep and everything and trying to be a good nap board moderator...it really makes it hard to get on here as much as I'd like.
Anyhoo, Ankie, ages ago you had asked if we had made the cards ourselves and yes we did. Although we did get the idea from a website:
http://www.metrobabycards.com/girl2.html
and then Art did the design in photo shop. :oops:
So today had a great day planned out of baking, church, even chatting with you girls and then I got a devestating call from one of my new mommy girlfriends. A man showed up on her doorstep saying that he was the husband of the woman that her husband had been having an affair with :shock: :( He had hired a PI and had proof and everything. She confronted him and he admitted it!!! That ! So I watched her daughter who is just 2 weeks older than Taylor for a few hours, kind of throwing a wrench in the plans. But it was the least I could do. Can you even friggin imagine finding out such devastating news the day before Christmas f*^%ing eve :!: :?: :!: :?: words cannot even express how horrible I feel for her :cry:
So I just had a moment to browse the pics and they are too cute. Judy, you posted your family pic a while back and it is lovely!
Gotta go to bed girls. I am so beat. merry Christmas everyone and will promise to keep up next week!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 24, 2005, 05:46:46 am
Also, didn't mean to include the F word with Christmas. Just trying to get across how completely shocked I was! :oops: :oops:
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 24, 2005, 06:00:37 am
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Ankie - DH also asked if Arwyn was Sophie :roll: I know he is looking pretty dense at this point but I promise he isn;t! I am part Metis so people tell me that my eyes look Asian and Sophie has my exact eyes so I suppose I can see where that comes from.
It is neat for me to have Sophie look so much like me and I probably dwell on it a bit b/c I am adopted and have never looked like anyone in my family. Although I got that I look like my dad sometimes b/c we have a very similar cultural background.
Richelle... a compliment to Arwyn that she looks like your gorgeous Sophie. Now that you mention it, in the Santa picture, because it is so far away, it could be Sophie if you just glance at it. My DH is adopted too and he read how you never looked like your family. He said he felt the exact same way growing up. He is from a family of brunettes and he is platinum blonde. He also, has always known that he was adopted and his sister still tells the story of how he came home. (They were hoping for a puppy and got a little brother instead.)
He mentioned that that was the coolest part of finding his birth mother and her family, because you can see the genetic resemblance. After his forever parents passed away, he looked for his birth parents. Out of respect for his father, who requested he not look for them, he never did when they were alive. After they passed away (within 5 months of each other), I think he was feeling really alone and he found his birth mother a month before we got married. It is quite something. We go to visit them at least once a year, usually twice and they have come here more times than his real sisters. I don't know what prompted him to look but I do know he is glad he did. He also found his birth father, whom, through his mother, pretty much told DH he wanted nothing to do with him.
Andrea... you post popped up when I was posting... What a freakin' poobrain. You are right. In our house, he would be a poo poo head. Hugs to your new mommy friend. A new baby and a first Christmas should be glorious, not clouded with $h!tty news about a cheating D ick H ead :twisted: .
Kate... I also think news of the cool girls chat is getting out. I hopped on at 9:30 all hopeful that some of you were around but... I saw that the last two people on there were not from our thread.
I wonder... I know you can create your own room for people to join into when they come into the chat room. Should we be doing that? or would that be a no-no? Someone mentioned not liking it when "strangers" come in... I don't mind but I feel badly for them because they don't know us and the background, etc. and it is hard to include them when all you want to do is spend some quality time with your girls!!
Have a wonderful Christmas everyone!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 24, 2005, 06:55:46 am
Ankie one of my great friends also waited until his forever parents died to look for his birth parents and has been grateful for them since...I agree Richelle one mom is definately enough :) My dad died about three years ago and I can only imagine how lonely it would feel to loose my mom as well.
Funny about dh thinking the babes were other babes...men :roll: :wink:
Kate...you are two (front teeth) funny. Hope your cookies were good...good enough to tear you away from chat that is.
So...
I Pm'ed Traci right after the chat tonight because I didn't know how to say it or if I even could/should say it...it being anything about the chat. I think it is soooooo important to include everyone and anyone in the chats...I can remember a few nights when I "found" people in the chat room and was so relieved to have someone to "talk" to.
That said, I would love to find a way to have our chats be ...just our chats but like Ankie said I guess I just don't know if that would be an ok thing to do.
I was a little dissapointed tonight. It's not that I am not into talking with other people or have anything against them...in fact I love Wed night chats too..(Hi my name is hannah and I am a chataholic...hi hannah...) but I just love talking to you girls because of knowing so much about you and your bubs and also having bubs the same age etc...makes for good chatting you know??
Anyone have any ideas on this one?
Bubs...crikey! What country am I from anyway? :)
Merry (F-ing)Christmas to you all (that's for you Andrea) :wink:
So sorry to hear about your friend. I second what Ankie said about him.
And yes Traci I too want you to move your PC...
and just two more things
1. You know your addicted to the bw site (I can hear you all groaning over the miles)when you can't wait for Christmas to be over so that all of your friends will stop being so darn it all busy and POST! :lol:
2. Will someone tell me how to quote already???
Night all.
Hannah
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 24, 2005, 07:39:26 am
Traci, love that little tush!
Richelle, thanks so much for sharing your story. How cool and lucky for your mum to end up with you and then conceive your brother as well. As far as parenting approachs (this is gonna get long), I think there is potential to make bad choices regardless of our upbringing - just different bad choices are made (of course I have also made a lot of positive choices too because of that controlling upbringing and actually don't feel a victim of it, it can make me sad, but I have the ability to work on these things and constantly self-improve). For me I also ended up VERY independent (to my detriment sometimes), and to the point of lacking in compassion and empathy and I can be quite selfish because I always had to look out for me because no-one else was there to listen and nurture me (and the controlling nature of my SD and lack of support from my mum made me rebel and move out of home at 18 and when I moved to a different city for 8yrs I had very little contact with them). This is why I find it hard to open up and let others offer help, let me vent (I'm doing great venting on this board huh? :lol: And honestly, it's a first, none of my real-life friends know half the stuff I've talked about here, not that it's a secret, I just don't know how to discuss it and believe that anyone would actually WANT to hear it). It's makes me quite sad to think that the child I was wasn't listened to and let grow up feeling loved. So for me I want to change that for my kids, it takes a bit of work, but I do naturally feel the love and empathy with my kids and Nathan is a VERY empathetic little fella which is so nice to see, empathy is a learnt skill, they can only learn it by having it modelled for them (ie, if he's hurt he knows that mummy is going to kiss it better, if he's sick he's going to get as much attention as he wants when he wants (in his bed not mine :wink: ), if he's scared and cautious, he's not going to be pushed into situations that make him uncomfortable - and he is turning out very independent too based on all of this. I remember having a friend who's mum was just SO NICE and always seemed caring and loving - I used to hang at their house quite a bit (this is around 10yrs old), she'd make us snacks after school (I went home to an empty home where I had to get my own - hmm, illegal?), she'd snuggle with us on the couch and watch TV (can't remember THAT happening), we'd dance and get silly. I keep her in my mind as my role-model with Nathan and Danielle - a shame to think that I can't put my own mum in that position. Don't get me wrong, my mum didn't abuse us or actually neglect us, but we never really CONNECTED. If my mum says she loves me, it feels very strange, if she calls me sweetie, ditto (because I only remember either of these being said a few times - so it's foreign to me). My mum never looked after me or seemed to care when I was ill, in fact SD took on that role to his benefit. So for my first 10yrs it was my mum and dad and I don't recall a specific discipline style (don't recall smacking or arguments though) yet my mum was pretty hands off on the emotional stuff. SD came on the scene when I was 10yrs old and from there on I recall the controlling nature of the discipline and general parenting from him.
So, where is this taking me...I guess parenting styles then get mixed up with our parents personalilites, our own personalities and it can lead to all sorts of outcomes.
Phew that was long. :wink:
Kate, that's so funny that Ryan licks the book! LOL
Andrea, how awful for your friend. :( Oh, and how funny about poobrain, I was trying to figure out while I was reading it if you would say that. :P
Well, I'm outta here, I'm sure I'll be checking in tomorrow even though it's Christmas Day, we're opening up presents at our house with just the four of us in the morning and then over to my mums for lunch. Then having friends over for a bbq dinner.
Post by: Judy on December 24, 2005, 12:52:11 pm
Gosh - this is going to be really fragmented. Zoe and Sarah are in the 'let's try to upset my sister mode' today. Yay for us!! They'll stand here and Zoe will say "I drew that picture for my cousin" and Sarah will say "noooo" and then Zoe will say it again and get upset and Sarah will say her Noooo again then it gets louder, then someone or both cry... oy!
Nikki, I love that you chat about all this stuff here!! I really really here you on the controlling parenting stuff. My parents tried to be really attached emotionally but we were always told when our emotions were wrong etc. etc.. I struggle with this with the girls.. not saying they shouldn't be sad but I do try to quiet the loud tears when the babies are sleeping. I HATE that about myself... how awful to hurt yourself and here "shhh where does it hurt? shhhhh what happened? shhhhh :roll: But I make a lot of friends but I struggle feeling like I'm a burden, annoyance to friends. Maybe I call too much, talk too much, complain too much. Chris will just walk across the road to the neighbours to chat if he sees them outside and I would NEVER do that. Feel like I'm imposing and they were just too polite to say so. If Chris dragged me along I'd feel so uncomfortable... yet I LOVE when people call, pop in here!! But I remember my parents complaining about certain people who came over too much in their minds.
Andrea - Oh man your poor friend. What a horrible thing to go through. Why on earth would that other husband tell her that on Christmas Eve (or the day before I mean). I guess you'd want to know - but couldn't it be after Christmas. I mean c'mon maybe the dude felt guilty and had at least bought her a huge present for Christmas and now she won't even get that (being a smarta$$ - but maybe still....) oh and what awful memories Christmas will hold. A new baby and everything. Idiot!!!!!! Soooooooo sad and heartbreaking!!!
Ok gotta run - have a ton of things still to do before we leave this house in 4hours or less... one of which is getting dh out of bed (no small task!!!)
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 24, 2005, 14:13:44 pm
Have a VERY Merry Christmas everyone! Knowing me I will check in tomorrow anyway!!!
Post by: Richelle on December 24, 2005, 14:57:17 pm
Judy and Nikki - I knew I could count on you to make some sense of what I was saying and it truely is just a matter of MY issues isn't it? I hope I can be HALF the mother to SOphie that my mom was for me but it seems I have this inherent need to second guess myself as a mother/provider *sigh* and this is only the beginning - I want a houseful of kids and want them to feel loved and comfortable more than anything else in the world! No matter what choices I make nothing is, or ever will be, perfect and I really waste alot of energy trying to change things that don't need changing and fixin' sh!t that ain't broke, KWIM?
You ladies are all so very interesting (thanks for nailing that one on the head Judy) and such wonderful role models as mothers even if some of you are mass murderers eh Kate?
Hannah I wanted to add also re. the 50's way of thinking. I have this need to have everything in order as it were and I also didn;t want to fall in some circa 1950's way of living with me struggling to have the perfect home while DH is out makin' a living ect... I suppose I felt that maybe we would stop communicating as what we are doing is soo diffeent ect.. I also think I had a need to hear DH say that what I was about to take on is "work" and that I won;t be on permanent holiday KWIM? As you can see I had alot of trouble wrestling with the idea of being a SAHM. ANyway I told him that he needs to understand that while I am a SAHM the house and Sophie are my career and focus therefore I need him to understand that I am doing a 'job'. He understands and also appreciates what I do for him although it takes some prodding I get thank yous for dinner ect... moreso than when I did it all and worked! It all does come down to teamwork and I believe each of us is doing what we are best suited for. Also DH and I have a rule that inside the house we never bitch about work, outside on the patio sure, or out for a drink of course and that includes me bitching about my day at home as well.
Nikki - I too am so open with you ladies I don;t think anyone besides DH knows as much about me as you ladies do!
Judy - I too am exactly like you and my DH like yours about talking/popping in, but I have no idea why I am like that!
Can you tell I am trying to avoid cleaning the house for our Christmas Eve BBQ this afternoon? I am still a Christmas Eve party giver - still waiting to move to the ever elusive Christmas day party host!! :wink:
Post by: Richelle on December 24, 2005, 15:01:34 pm
http://www.illwillpress.com/xmas.html
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 24, 2005, 15:34:54 pm
Kate and Traci - love the cute naked buns!! As my DH says...those boys have some "junk in their trunk"!! He's got himself a nice, round butt so he can relate!! Love it!
Judy/Nikki - keep the UP advice coming. I am reading with interest and committing to memory!!
Judy - I laughed at the image of Sarah running around the house, arms a going...Mason used to do that when he was tired...run laps around the house, then eventually just sit down and zone out. That's how I knew it was time for bed!!
Hannah - hugs to you and DH for working together and being able to see his side of things too! I know I do the same thing with my DH - all I want is a few minutes ALONE, and all he wants is the opposite!! Going back to work in the new year and both of us being away from the kids all day will sure be interesting! We will be boxing each other for some one-on-one quality time!
Andrea - HUGE HUGS to your friend. What a disgusting excuse for a human being her DH is. Blech!!
Cathy - your MIL sounds awesome just like mine! Aren't we lucky??
Richelle - thank you for sharing such personal thoughts with us here. I know many of us can relate to how we are able to share out innermost thoughts and ideas with internet friends but not face to face with live friends. It is definitely strange!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: for the link!! Sat here and laughed my fool head off, then played it again and laughed even harder!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: BTW...Happy 8 months to Sophie!!
I too popped on to chat last night, didn't see anyone I recognized and high-tailed it outta there. We are a sad lot aren't we?? Bunch of snobs!! :oops:
Hope everyone who is travelling arrives safe and sound and a big Merry Christmas to all the "girls" and their families!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 24, 2005, 18:17:00 pm
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But I make a lot of friends but I struggle feeling like I'm a burden, annoyance to friends. Maybe I call too much, talk too much, complain too much
Yes, yes, yes! Totally the same here. I also love it when others just pop in, so I try and "act" through it and throw out those feelings and thoughts of being a nuisance if I was to want to call in at friends etc. I used to pop in at one friends house and one time she ranted at how "others" used to do the pop in thing and it really annoyed her :oops: :? , so I guess it's that kind of thing that makes me insecure about it.
I also try and work on consequences with Nathan, yesterday food got mushed all over the table, so we talked about we don't do that with food and I asked him to go get the cloth to wipe it up. He did, but same as Judy, if he'd refused, I would have ended up doing and not pushing it. In fact, he'll now get snotty at me if I were to then start to clean and will do it himself anyway.
I also like natural consequences, he was tugging at a decoration on the tree a few weeks back, I saw what was happening, I could see the tree was going to topple so I stood back and kind of "ignored" the situation, the tree fell, he freaked, I came in all calm, offered a cuddle, said something like "oh no, did you pull on a decoration and the tree fell over, here, lets pick up the tree and fix it up". I didn't bant on at him and say told you so or whatever and it hasn't happened since.
Richelle, I think becoming a mother just makes you reassess your own upbringing and it sounds to me you're doing a fab job! Oh, happy 8mths to Sophie! Danielle's going to be 9mths on New Years Day.
Michelle, think I might get Nathan a rain stick of his own, I wonder if I can get a kid sized one.
You know when you're addicted to BW when you check in at 7am Christmas morning after the kids have opened their presents..... :P Right, gotta go, Danielle's after a feed.
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 24, 2005, 18:40:52 pm
More later
Hannah
Post by: Jayri on December 24, 2005, 20:05:26 pm
I invited the IL's for xmas dinner, wanted to do someting nice this year as I don't really like xmas that much. I am not a scrooge or anything like that but it always hits home to me of how aI have none of my family around, my dad is in the us mum is in the uk and I am here in canada, no siblings or anything.
That said aside, I call the il's on friday to see what time they are arriving for xmas dinner, and they wondered what the fuss was as they weren't coming till monday.......WTF.
I asked them to come for xmas dinner, do I have to specify day now, I thought when I said xmas I thought they knew I was talking about xmas day not boxing day......
Very ed, very hurt.....this is riley's first xmas and I would of thought that coming to spend it with their grandchildren would have been top on their list. Instead they are going to MIL's brother who is a half hour away from them. I am mad as I have my mum in the uk on the verge of tears as she desperately wants to be here in march for Ri's 1st bday, she has only had pics of her so far, she has not so much as held her since she was born because of the distance and crap that always seems to happen when she tries to get here. She wants it so bad she is willing to fly 4000 miles for 1WEEK, just to be here for Ri and Jay.
The il's are about 2hrs away by car.....needless to say you see why I am mad.
I just needed to get that out.......I mean come on......if someone asked you to dinner on christmas what do you think they would mean??????
On a lighter note, here is my addition to the bum collection.....
hahaha...it edited me, I am p!$$ed, you could probably tell, but I just wanted to fill in the blanks.
Post by: Jayri on December 24, 2005, 20:06:02 pm
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 24, 2005, 20:21:25 pm
Sorry to hear you have no family near by, make your family day really special for the 4 of you and set up your own little traditions that will be memorable to all of you.
Richelle, that link took too long for me to download on my dial up, but it sounds very funny. Might try it again later.
I just wanted to add some extra about what you mentioned about your mums style in relation to schooling. And here is the "controlling" style in action. Because I am by nature quite strong-willed and independent and hate for anyone to be telling me to do something, I chose a path that perhaps wasn't the ideal. While I always tried hard at school (surprisingly there was no pressure to perform from parents and we were always encouraged to do our best and that was ok) and was always a "c" grade student and believed that was the best of my ability. Now skip till I was 24 and applied for a job with an HR consulting firm looking after their records department, I needed to do intelligence test and psych assessments (to check if I was insane :P - nah, to see personality type etc and how I problem solve). Anyway, my tests came back that I sat in the "96th percentile of the population for intelligence!". Wow, in the top 4 percent, never, never, never did I believe I was naturally capable of that! Once I realised that I've never looked back and when I do study now I always score in the 90's - when I told my mum how I scored, she said "I always knew you were intelligent" - well I ask, why did anyone never encourage me or tell me that they believed in me? :? Guess I felt "saved" at that point and I've gone on a done well despite not going to university.
So once again - who knows what I could be doing if my parents had a different style?
Post by: FrasersMum on December 24, 2005, 22:12:14 pm
Just a quick one - you know you're addicted when.... the presents are opened and DH is feeding DS so I can pop on and say
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!
to all my friends.
Hope you are all having a lovely day/will have a lovely day tomorrow
We are heading down to the IL's for Christmas lunch (UGH!! I'm not even going to go there!!) and then away for a week.
I'll check in again before I go!
Love to all
Jo
Post by: Colesmom on December 25, 2005, 02:10:47 am
"All I want for xmas is my two front teeth" LOL Kate-Cole has been singing that for about a week as he's STILL struggling for that 4th tooth to come through.
Andrea-Hugs to your mommy friend. I agree-total D ick H ead.
100% agree on the strangers in the chat. just not the same. we can't get our groove on. and i chatted with most of them just on wednesday. sheesh!
"Bubs...crikey! What country am I from anyway?
Merry (F-ing)Christmas to you all (that's for you Andrea) " LOL Hannah
To quote-highlight it I think and hit the quote button at the top of the page.
is that all i had to say? thanks for the continuing discussion judy/nikki. i'll have to look at Andrea's summary at some point.
we had an okay night last night. bed 8:10, woke at 9, down in 5. woke at 10, settled himself. woke at 3 (fed), woke at 5:30...stayed with him for 45 min. then he slept until 6:45. 8pm obviously too late as now we're back to early wakings.
i'm in a bit of a predicament now as I think he can handle longer A time since he's better rested. I'm now having 3 45 min. naps a day on A times that used to yield hour or longer naps. BUT if he goes longer than 45 min. then there isn't time for catnap kwim? soooo, i'm going to have to lengthen the first two intervals and try to get good naps and adjust on a day by day basis for catnap.
today, 40 min nap, 30 min nap then up for 5 hours before crashing in the car on the way home. would barely eat and certainly not sleep amongst all the hub bub at my SILs house. he was the hit of the party though. Not a tear all day. totally happy and smiley and running on adrenalin. :?
been in bed almost an hour now. maybe we've tuckered him out enough to sleep through LOL!
okay girlies...i would LOVE to move the pc downstairs but i don't think it will happen. as long as my connection continues to work then i can come on at each nap which is pretty good.
okay, gotta go. i'm sure DH is NOT impressed that i'm spending xmas eve on the pc.
Everyone have a wonderful christmas. I know i've said it already but wanted to say it again.
Off to the ILs tomorrow. maybe I can sneak on there, but I doubt it...so it will be 9pm or so when i can see my girls again.
Love you all and miss you lots.
Post by: Colesmom on December 25, 2005, 02:14:55 am
Parents-baby sleigh (fine, dad's been in H and mom hasn't had time to shop)
Brothers Family who I've been buying gifts for for 24 years, total of 4 kids got a $25 Fisher Price farm set. Something I asked for...but not even the big version
Other brother-$30 cash-didn't know what to buy even though he has two kids.
Other brother-a small picture album for 4x6 pics and a pic. frame that has a nice pic of him and cole from the summer.
oh yes, all brothers are working and are over 30 so not clueless. (or maybe they are?)
WTF? Cole's first xmas and he got ONE toy. ONE. And it all fit in one bag.
Okay, the only reason I'm not freaking out too much is we go to ILs tomorrow and we'll likely need a trailer to get home from there. DHs mom is crazy for christmas :D so at least I know we'll get some good loot there.
I KNOW it's not about the gifts and what people spend....but I mean, it's like they don't CARE. it's his first chrissie for crikey's sake!
*phew* thanks girls
Post by: kate585 on December 25, 2005, 05:13:27 am
We had a lovely time at the in-laws. Ryan got some great presents from dh's folks. Traci, if it makes you feel better, Ryan got a cool bathtub drum set from sil and nothing from bil/sil, so we're about in the same boat. :) But, our best gift is...a trip to BARBADOS!!!! The il's are taking all three of us, plus bil and his wife, and sil and her boyfriend! Fil travels A LOT for his job, so he is using his air miles and hotel miles, so it won't break the bank. I am just so excited for our first real vacation since our honeymoon (Our 5 year anniversary will be a month after our trip, so we're counting it as our celebration.) We are going at the end of May, so I have enough time to lose that last 10-15 pounds that have been hanging around. When we were figuring out where we were going (it was a puzzle thing) I kept hoping for Grand Cayman so I could see Richelle and Sophie. (You know you're addicted when....) :lol:
We are leaving for my mom's tomorrow after we do Christmas morning here and her computer is all messed up and some guy took it to work on it. Sooooo, I might not be able to check in til Thursday or so. :cry: Can you even imagine how much I'll have to catch up on? Yikes!
Again, wishing you and yours a happy day!!!
Love, Kate :D
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 25, 2005, 07:46:47 am
Anyway, my book.....drum roll.....a novel called The Bad Mother's Handbook. Apparently funny, so will read it first and then give the review. Not sure why my mum was unsure of giving it to me then if there was no clear message about anything in particular (but I'm thinking the title attracted her, she thought it funny at the time, then we had our little run in and she thought she'd made a booboo getting it for me)? Oh well, relieved it's not SuperNanny LOL!
Danielle, my little trooper - she had a 1.25hr nap in the morning and then was awake from 10.15am until 3.30pm, fell asleep on the way home from my parents, we drove around for a little while and she napped for 20mins and then was up until 7.15pm! Not a peep or grizzle out of her. Will be interesting to see how it affects her night tonight.
Kate, yes we do Boxing Day over here as well (great sales on!). Ooooh, your Barbados trip sounds wonderful!
Traci, we had a sucky Christmas last year as far as gifts go (my mum actually forgot to buy Nathan a gift WTF?). She felt really bad, not sure how it slipped her mind! :? This year we also got money from several family members, but my mum went overboard on the gifts and we have sooooo much. The other vouchers and money will come in handy later on. I must admit though, this is the first year that Nathan's got a lot of gifts, he hasn't known what it was all about before this, has really only gotten one gift from each set of grandparents (he has 4) and one from us and one from my brother (none from DH's brother - heck I forget I even have a BIL).
Have a lovely Christmas everyone!
Post by: Richelle on December 25, 2005, 15:33:25 pm
MERRYCHRISTMAS EVERYONE - I HOPE EVERYONE IS SURROUNDED BY LOVE AND PLENTY OF CHEER!!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 25, 2005, 17:52:12 pm
Dh and dd are both napping. It's about 9:30am here. We have opened gifts from each other and my mom. She (my mom) means so well. I have to keep reminding myself...she actually got some really great gifts for Sophie. Mostly books and toys...but for me? OMG she is totally clueless. It used to be a huge source of anguish for me as a child that she just had no idea what I liked etc. (basically she just doesn't pay attention...very self centered...even more than I am if that's possible...the apple didn't fall far from the tree :) Anyhow she bought me some bath products lotion soap etc...did she forget that dh works for a spa product company? We haven't bought lotion/shampoo/etc in years!!! I know it's the thought that counts and it is really sweet of her to work so hard to package all of these cute little gifts up and send them across the miles. I do appreciate that part.
Last night we went to dh's extended family xmas eve celebration. Brought the porta crib and dd went down easily but was woken right before we left (before I had a chance to go get her up to go) and was none to pleased about it....SIL just happened to be there when she woke, crying and she and my niece came and informed me she was up and crying...have to say I am a little suspicious...did they actually wake her? Or find her awake? I hate thinking that but I just wouldn't put it past my coo-coo sil. Anyhow, she had a little cry then I took her outside where they have a beautiful fountain and she loved the sound of the running water. I fed her, packed her into the car, then we drove brendan back to his mom's and went home. We put her in bed, she went down without a sound and didn't wake till 7. Loving that!!
We basically have to do the same thing tonight. We will be at MIL's so I'll put her to bed then wake her to bring her home. Hate to do it two nights in a row but she'll be fine(right?) And MIL's house is alot smaller than the one we were at last night so I can keep track of meddling SIL a little better :D :wink:
There was a 7 week old baby girl...Saylor Rose at the party last night. She was absolutely soooo sweet. It was weird to be the "been there done that" parent. I have to say I did reccommend the BW...they were talking about CIO and how it worked so well for their friends....just makes my heart ache.
Anyhow. It just made me realize how incredibly fast this is all going. The mom of Saylor kept saying "Sophie is so cute, I can't wait till Saylor's is sitting up/crawling/etc...and I kept wanting to say the age old response "It will be happening before you know it" But I bit my tongue...you just can't tell people can you? I know I couldn't be told...I am working on that though. LIstening to my "elders" that is.
I guess I have to say...as corny as this sounds. I am so thankful for the bw and all of you ladies on this thread. It is my best gift in my life this year (aside from Sophie). The comfort that I have recieved from you all as well as the therapy of writing down thoughts and experiences (and knowing someone is actually taking the time to read them!) has been invaluable to me. I just want to say thank you again for being here.
Hope everyone is having a wonderful day/night enjoying family friends good food etc.
Love,
Hannah
Post by: Judy on December 25, 2005, 20:23:48 pm
I'm nursing Kaia and Hannah right now. So that is giving me a bit of a break.
Not sure how I feel about Christmas right now :? I'm trying to work my way out of a funky mood. Had my family Christmas yesterday. Gosh it went so fast - I think everyone sat down to eat and at the MOST 20min later my dad was collecting plates to put in the dishwasher. Honestly. I had barely even touched my food. I don't think there was even time to start a conversation with ANYONE. Granted I was busy feeding cereal to Kaia and Hannah but surely we could have lingered and relaxed and chatted for, gee, 30minutes? :roll: The tree was decorated upstairs but all the presents downstairs - under the new wall mounted plasma tv that blarred out football right up till the first piece of wrapping was torn and back on BEFORE the last present opened. :roll: again. I could barely keep up/track of the presents being given to my children. Didn't seem like Christmas at all. At one point my younger brother put on ear muffs - I guess to drown out the crying from Kaia and Hannah. They weren't even that loud but it was pretty apparent (how to spell that??) that he and my dad weren't impressed. Too bad!
Then we came home. Gosh Zoe'd been up till 10pm the night before and up early. She was over overtired and tooooo much chocolate and crap to eat. So by the time we got home and she woke up in the van things went from not the best, to bad, to unheard of WORSE. She was plain screaming and thrashing over nothing but simply being tired and hopped up on sh!t. I gave her a remedy which she took then spit on the floor :evil: I wasn't in much of a mood anymore so turned her around and told her to get back to bed. Thankfully dh stepped in b/c I had had enough. I've spent all week planning and working every moment I have to get everything ready... reminding him all along the FEW things I needed from him and why it would be good to have it done before Sat (because I didn't intend to be the only one getting everyone ready to go out the door NOR did I want to have this stuff in the way of he and I enjoying Christmas Eve after the kids went to sleep NOR did I want it to have to be done today while I worked my a$$ off trying to get dinner for 15 fixed and deal with the babies - because he would be busy with these 'chores'... yup - you know where I'm going with this.) So I hear him commenting to my brother about being in trouble "I'm always in trouble" I could have cried. I hate being labelled the b!tch when really it doesn't have to be this way if you just got off that freakin' couch and helped with preparations ahead of time like I asked (and he agreed to) So I was then p!ssed that I was p!ssy and didn't have to be - felt I'd been set up. C'mon, we've been together 9yrs, not like this came out of the blue that I feel better if things aren't falling together at the last minute.
So this morning I get up to feed K&H then drag his butt outa bed to change them so I can make muffins for the girls - promised Zoe. So he basically changes them, puts them in the saucers and goes back to bed??? Thanks. So I get him up again to start the fire - yup, same thing, back to bed. I'm really irritable now and it's Christmas Day - I'm mad at me for being mad and mad at him for not supporting me. Ok so everyone is up we go to go down to see if Santa came and Zoe's muffin falls off her plate. I have a baby, a plate with Sarah's muffin, my muffin, take Zoe's plate and ask her to just put it on the plate and I'll take it down. She wants ME to get it... can't really do that sweetie my arms are full. Soooooooo I see where this is going b/c she's in a funny....... she grinds the f@cking muffin into the carpet. *deep breath* walk away and did toss a plate on the table to which I got told I was the adult and should act better. Buddy I walked away - I had a lot of other ideas at the time trust me. Anyway he cleaned that up... onward we move. Of course by this time the babes are going back to bed.
Want me to stop yet? :) Oh yeah - it goes on. Suffice it to say that it is 3.15pm, people are driving on their way here and will be here in the next 15-20 min. I'm nursing, I haven't showered, the girls are doing something to my table... Zoe just asked me to 'look what Sarah did' no thanks - don't want to know. The chairs we rented are still outside in the CRV. I peeled potatoes with two babies slung to me (b/c dh was busy with the task I asked for on MONDAY of last week). Oh and in the meantime today dh decided it was necessary to clean the DVD player (because the one he just gave me for Xmas goes back apparently if cleaning fixes the one we have) ... it's been WEEKS, and suddenly today it needs to be done???
Oh and did we spend Xmas Eve together like I suggested, asked, propsed two nights ago? NO, b/c he needed to set up a computer he bought from work, last night which means I haven't even been able to check yesterdays email. Not one night this week could he stay awake to do the task I asked for (it was cleaning up his work clothes so people could get in the back door), he did help wrap presents because I made him but he grumbled the entire time about it and was still complaining about it last night at my folks (b/c my brother didn't have to wrap - to which I said yeah well did he help decorate rather than be a scrooge about it all? Ah, see the difference!!)
So, turkey is cooking, Kaia is fast asleep, potatoes are in the pot, pies are just out of the oven, dh brought up a little table to add on to our HUGE one to give a tiny bit more room but goodness it wouldn't occur to him to move 3 plates over :roll: and now he's jumping in the shower. I will have to ask for every bit of help from him today.. there could be crying babies and me trying to make gravy and I'll have to get his attention (he can't multi task well at all) and then he'll comment in front of everyone that I need to relax which will really tick me off and at the end of the night he'll say 'see it all was fine, you do it to yourself. You know my family doesn't expect things to be perfect' and I'll leave the room and go off to bed mad. :) How's that for setting the mood ahead of time - I really need to NOT do that - self fulfilling prophecy.
Well - should get my boobs back from these girls so if someone shows up in the next five I'll just be in my sweats and not in my sweats with my boobs hanging out.
Oh, and dh's Uncle is coming who is nice but THE MOST sarcastic and insulting man alive - his attempt at humour. I predict Zoe will not like him at all so she'll be clutched to me - and likely Sarah too.
Post by: Judy on December 25, 2005, 20:24:31 pm
Nikki - that book doesn't sound bad at all... maybe your mom thought you'd think she was calling you a bad mom because of the title. :)
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 25, 2005, 21:05:28 pm
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Nikki - that book doesn't sound bad at all... maybe your mom thought you'd think she was calling you a bad mom because of the title
I agree, so all was well! :)
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 25, 2005, 21:24:08 pm
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 25, 2005, 22:32:38 pm
Judy good luck with the dinner. I can relate a little except I only have one lo. I absolutely cannot stand to be told that I bring it all on myself :evil: :x
Nikki I am curious to hear more about the book, sounds interesting.
Cute pic...LOL at Nathan's "fake" smile.
Hannah
Post by: mickymuscles on December 25, 2005, 23:13:27 pm
gotta just post a quick post....Jack got totally spoiled this year! (Sorry Traci) I had to buy another suitcase to take all his things home.
I've got a big rant to do once I get home about my sis and her husband! GRRRRR!!! Absolutely delusional about being parents and havin lo's on a routine and the importance of naps! :twisted:
Merry Christmas to you all and I'll talk to you all soon! I miss you all!
Post by: becca24 on December 25, 2005, 23:37:56 pm
Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!
xxx ooo xxx ooo xxx ooo xxx ooo xxx ooo
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 02:14:01 am
Oh Judy - I cannot even imagine what xmas must be like with 4 under 4. I have had a handful with 1 who doesn;t give 2 sh!ts about food, christmas, toys.....
I think you are an amazing woman to be giving these girls the christmas they are having and they know it too!
Never mind that DH who is lucky ~ visec (slice your balls off with pleasure) tomy ~ that he has such an amazingly sexy woman*(who has spawned his well (...you insert an adjective for your children here that still speaks to him) * children. I am tryiing to empathize Judy and I can't except that you are completely prividledged to say you are the last person who wishes to deal with......yeas we are making a list:
stupidheads
dummies
men
men with pubichair
men who like rubberized balls
men who like SPORTS involving rubber balls
men with balls
men with balls that itch
I do have a point and it is imporetant but people have come over AGAIN! I'll be back but until then Merry day!
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 02:14:43 am
Quote from: Sophiesma
! So I get him up again to start the fire - yup, same thing, back to bed. I'm really irritable now and it's Christmas Day - I'm mad at me for being mad and mad at him for not supporting me.
Oh Judy - I cannot even imagine what xmas must be like with 4 under 4. I have had a handful with 1 who doesn;t give 2 sh!ts about food, christmas, toys.....
I think you are an amazing woman to be giving these girls the christmas they are having and they know it too!
Never mind that DH who is lucky ~ visec (slice your balls off with pleasure) tomy ~ that he has such an amazingly sexy woman*(who has spawned his well (...you insert an adjective for your children here that still speaks to him) * children. I am tryiing to empathize Judy and I can't except that you are completely prividledged to say you are the last person who wishes to deal with......yeas we are making a list:
stupidheads
dummies
men
men with pubichair
men who like rubberized balls
men who like SPORTS involving rubber balls
men with balls
men with balls that itch
I do have a point and it is imporetant but people have come over AGAIN! I'll be back but until then Merry day!
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 02:16:32 am
Quote from: Sophiesma
! So I get him up again to start the fire - yup, same thing, back to bed. I'm really irritable now and it's Christmas Day - I'm mad at me for being mad and mad at him for not supporting me.
Oh Judy - I cannot even imagine what xmas must be like with 4 under 4. I have had a handful with 1 who doesn;t give 2 sh!ts about food, christmas, toys.....
I think you are an amazing woman to be giving these girls the christmas they are having and they know it too!
Never mind that DH who is lucky ~ visec (slice your balls off with pleasure) tomy ~ that he has such an amazingly sexy woman*(who has spawned his well (...you insert an adjective for your children here that still speaks to him) * children. I am tryiing to empathize Judy and I can't except that you are completely prividledged to say you are the last person who wishes to deal with......yeas we are making a list:
stupidheads
dummies
men
men with pubichair
men who like rubberized balls
men who like SPORTS involving rubber balls
men with balls
men with balls that itch
I do have a point and it is imporetant but people have come over AGAIN! I'll be back but until then Merry day!
Post by: becca24 on December 26, 2005, 02:20:33 am
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 02:21:28 am
Quote from: Sophiesma
Quote from: Sophiesma! So I get him up again to start the fire - yup, same thing, back to bed. I'm really irritable now and it's Christmas Day - I'm mad at me for being mad and mad at him for not supporting me.
Oh Judy - I cannot even imagine what xmas must be like with 4 under 4. I have had a handful with 1 who doesn;t give 2 sh!ts about food, christmas, toys.....
I think you are an amazing woman to be giving these girls the christmas they are having and they know it too!
Never mind that DH who is lucky ~ visec (slice your balls off with pleasure) tomy ~ that he has such an amazingly sexy woman*(who has spawned his well (...you insert an adjective for your children here that still speaks to him) * children. I am tryiing to empathize Judy and I can't except that you are completely prividledged to say you are the last person who wishes to deal with......yeas we are making a list:
stupidheads
dummies
men
men with pubichair
men who like rubberized balls
men who like SPORTS involving rubber balls
men with balls
men with balls that itch
I do have a point and it is imporetant but people have come over AGAIN! I'll be back but until then Merry day!
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 02:22:38 am
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 02:25:31 am
Becc you ailed it must go... love to you all....
Post by: Colesmom on December 26, 2005, 03:01:22 am
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Well - should get my boobs back from these girls so if someone shows up in the next five I'll just be in my sweats and not in my sweats with my boobs hanging out.In all that you still have your sense of humour. Big hugs to you girl...you deserve them today more than ever.
richelle-you need a coffee. LOL
well-we hit the MOTHERLOAD at MILs. so many toys it's hilarious really. And I love all but one. The first one he opened actually called "Classical Casey"-a frightening looking rabbit that plays classical music when you touch his feet. He got a cool V-tec Steering wheel, Phonics fridge magnet, phonics bus, blocks, lego, tons of clothes and i don't even remember the rest. he loved it all!
nikki-lol at the fake smile.
hannah-your pics didn't work.
i'll post pics tomorrow-gotta get over to the nap board-it's my day.
"see" you all tomorrow.
Post by: Jayri on December 26, 2005, 03:23:06 am
He turned a half hour job into a four hour one while I was in the same room struggling to get Riley to go down so I can put Jay in bed.
Bedtime is bedtime, he has a habit latley of booting it out of the door when that time of night comes around.
And then when I question him about how his parents f@cked up in thinking that xams dinner meant coming for dinner on boxing day. he says he can't say anything to them as it will confuse them.....excuse me, WTF I have my mum in the uk in tears cuz she wants to be here for the kids and obviously can't...their lazy asses are 2hrs away by car, and they complian they don't see them enough...not my f@cking fault
They didn't even come to the hospital when Ri was born....
When dh's nan died, they assumed I would stay with the kids in the city while dh went to the funeral...no one asked if I would like to wait at their house while they were doing what they had to do, dh called me after and told me they were all at his parents for a dinner.....woah!!!! if I am his wife aren't I family????
They are having a dinner on the 1st, and have invited us, there musn't be anyone else coming if they asked me.....
I am so mad and pi$$ed......they go on about how we put the past behind us and crap like that.....I personally hate them....I know it is a strong word, but it is for dh and the kids that I tolerate them.....they condone how we live (in the city) and eat, yet she is pushing 350lb.....she can barely walk to the other room without a struggle....
I have to stop, I am just way too pi$$ed to think straight...sorry to bring anyone's day down.....I just needed to vent......
But on the upside, here are some pice of the kids that I scanned....FINALLY
Post by: Jayri on December 26, 2005, 03:27:50 am
what is it with dh's lately??????
Post by: Judy on December 26, 2005, 03:36:58 am
Bec - I love those pics!!! You too Naomi - your IL's sound frustrating. It's a good thing you spoke to them so you were sitting there tonight with a warm dinner waiting and waiting on them. :roll:
Nikki - great happy shot!! :) I love Nathan's 'smile' - great thank you card to Santa ;)
Tracy, I just got up from my chair and the IL's pulled in the driveway. I handed the babes to Chris and hopped in the shower. :)
And everything did go well... basically by the time I was done in the shower things were at a point where I could sit and visit for a bit. Dinner turned out very well, pies were yummy!! :) Chris' Uncle came and said to me "now Judy, why are YOU doing all this work with all these kids around?" and I said for one, it's easier to be home with the children and two, quite frankly, I'm the best cook in this family! :) Nothing like tooting my own horn. Of course he says "well, yes I didn't feel like going anywhere today but then I remembered you'd be cooking so I had to come along" (he's divorced and his kids refuse to have anything to do with him so it's a tough time of year for him :( ) and didn't I say he's sarcastic? Usually he is but he was so nice today! :) And I just love having my MIL around these days because Kaia and Hannah just love being with her and they are so happy when Chris' family is around - unlike mine. Why? I bet quite honestly it's me - I'm sure they sense the tension in me when my fam is around.
Sarah napped for about 2.5+hours today and now at 10.34pm she is standing up on a chair looking over the side of the couch at dh saying "pop goes the weasel" then off the chair, walks around it and does it all again. :) She's not so tired.
Hannah is cutting one maybe two top teeth so she had a tough time going to bed tonight - along with all the excitement - when I checked in on her she was turned completely around in her crib snuggled up to her new baby. We gave them babies for Christmas (along with a ton of other stuff) because they like to chew on the older girls but it really stresses Z&S to have the babies licking their babies. :) I'd post a pic or two - but dang this new computer, I've got to get my camera set up on it... All this complaining about this pc ... you'd never guess that pc support is my career!! LOL I just didn't feel like dealing with it right now.
I have to say... this UP stuff helps me in my life as well as parenting. Cuz I'm so over being p!ssed at dh.... a year ago - I'd have stayed mad for days until I finally let him have it (seriously!!)
Oy!! I think dh & I will be asleep before Sarah tonight.
Off to see if I can get this camera to download pics.
Post by: Judy on December 26, 2005, 03:39:15 am
Post by: Colesmom on December 26, 2005, 03:47:49 am
Unconditional Parenting (asked for) AND
Supernanny
hee hee. i explained they are kind of at odds with each other.
he's taking supernanny back :D
Can you tell he feels bad for letting me do ALL the work for the first 7 months of Cole's life!
I gotta get off of here and go read!
Post by: Arwyn's mom on December 26, 2005, 04:01:24 am
Well, I know it is Boxing Day for some. It almost 8 pm here and our Christmas is done! We had take-out Chinese :roll: ... the first ever that we did not have a "proper" Christmas dinner but I was not going to cook a turkey for only 4 people and my mother eats like a bird so, 3 people. Anyhow, it went well and Arwyn got spoiled for her 1st Christmas. She got an assortment of toys and clothes. There was one gift I was not too impressed with but I have come to expect it from this one friend so... :roll: whatever.
Naomi... beautiful Christmas pictures. Sorry to hear you are dealing with such inconsiderate behaviour from the ILs. Some people just don't know how to be nice and don't have any idea how their actions affect somebody else. Take comfort in that you, in all your patience dealing with them, are a good person. {{{{HUGS}}}}
Judy... OMG... the post had me telling DH that you and I married the same PROCRASTINATING man. :roll: He also, at the end of things, tells me it went just fine and that I work myself up for nothing. :shock: Glad to hear your Christmas dinner went well. I couldn't even deal with one little baby... never mind 4 and cooking Christmas dinner... heck, I can't even get regular dinners on the table!
Bec... lovely pictures of Halle. Can you believe that DH and I forgot to take any pictures of Arwyn opening presents? :roll: oh well
Richelle... operator DUI error? or the pc really on the blink? LOL
Traci... my sister got Arwyn the same VTech steering wheel! She commented that Arwyn needed something to do while chatting on her cell phone! (purchased when Arwyn was a newborn) Cool gifts from DH, BTW.
All this talk about UP has piqued my interest... could somebody post the website address again?
Ta ta... see y'all after I go SHOPPING tomorrow!!!!!
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 04:16:41 am
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Thanks ladies... oh my gosh Richelle THANK YOU!!! I have no idea what you were trying to say :) but you gave me the biggest laugh I've had in days now!! :) :)
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Post by: Judy on December 26, 2005, 04:20:05 am
Traci - Supernanny AND UP eh? That's a funny combo!! Sounds like dh did well with the gift giving!! :)
Post by: Jayri on December 26, 2005, 04:21:10 am
Richelle...gimme whatever you are having.....
Despite my pi$$iness, Jay did something real cute today, I asked him to leave his toys so I could put Riley to bed, he then brought them all out, his new thomas lego train track set, and set it on the kitchen floor and palyed in the kitchen....she didn't end up going down for a couple more hours, but what a sweetie....
Just a question, what do peole think of nanny 911, personally I prefer them to supernanny, as they tend to fix things as a whole and I don't think I have ever seem them deal with disapline, rather they find what is causing the problem and fix that....
Righty ho, I am off to bed, way to tired, and have cooled down a little thanks to my girls.....you rock, I would be so lost without you all.
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 04:29:37 am
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Quote from: JudyThanks ladies... oh my gosh Richelle THANK YOU!!! I have no idea what you were trying to say :) but you gave me the biggest laugh I've had in days now!! :) :)
F0f the love of PETER, mr=e 0 !@!@-in-ne-ither, but I love tyou gals to bits and al
ANybbetter?
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 04:31:39 am
I think I am a bit slow n( sisster george)\
Post by: Jayri on December 26, 2005, 04:36:23 am
are you back in the warm weather now???? I am a bit out of the loop!!
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 04:40:15 am
I am drinking poor champagne!! mixwed with OJ and one of the cutesest babes!
I will post tomorrrow when I am able to share with you babes..........honest, I am just trying to catch up!!!!!!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 26, 2005, 06:17:50 am
Judy, so glad to hear that your day went well! I too was thinking how UP has a good flow on effect for relationships in general. One thing that hit home when I was thinking about this whole discipline thing and when trying to explain to DH how he might be better dealing with things with Nathan was "RESPECT him and speak to him as you would a friend or someone elses child for example" (he's a very calm natured person, just gets a bit demanding and authoritative with Nathan). And would he like to be spoken to like that? :oops: Here's a time that I need to take my own advice, I'm a bit (lot) bossy with DH - it's the Aries in me...
Naomi, I have no idea about Nanny 911, we don't have that here.
Traci, that is a strange combo of books :wink: - but gotta love that DH got you some VERY cool gifts.
Ankie, check out http://www.unconditionalparenting.com I had a wee browse the other night, but think I need to read the book first as it felt like they were referring to a lot of stuff in the book (kind of like if non-BWers post here and haven't read the book and ask what pu/pd is).
Finally got my house semi-tidy, most new toys sorted, some put away for circulating. Time to relax.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 26, 2005, 06:48:20 am
http://www.alfiekohn.org/up/content/excerpt.asp
Oh, and Naomi - beautiful, beautiful pictures of your kids! :D
Post by: james030405 on December 26, 2005, 10:27:57 am
sorry Ihaven't been on for a while. We have had a very busy week. Poor James was sick at the beginning of the week with a virus that saw me taking him to the childrens hospital as I couldn't get his fever down over 36hrs. But he is at his best again and just in time for christmas.
We had christmas day here and it was great. 4 generations of my family as I still have a grandfather (James' great-grandfather). Although it was hot and we ended the day with a storm, we had a fantastic day. James got totally spoilt :roll: but had a great day and was a total hit with everyone. He was a bit overwhelmed by the whole day and was a bit clingy. Everytime he woke from a nap, there were more people here and more presents to open. :lol: I enjoyed several ( :shock: :shock: ) glasses of champagne which went down very nicely.
We are off for our first "family" holiday tomorrow. James is spending the 1st 2days at his grandparents. I am a bit confused about how I am feeling about this. I am feeling guilty for liking the idea of not having him around for a couple of days. :( I feel sad and I know I will miss him like crazy, but I also am enjoying having a couple of days alone with DH. Is this bad? :oops:
Anyway, I hope everyone had a lovely Christmas. sorry I haven't read all the posts - the last time I was on it was pg 92 and now it is over 100 :shock:
Have a happy new year
Love Lisa mum to James my textbook/spirited koala
PS Thanks for all the christmas cards :D
Post by: Erin M on December 26, 2005, 17:05:56 pm
Well, it's the day after Christmas here - we had quite a few fun days. Katie got a TON of presents -- good lord, I can't believe we still have to go visit the OTHER side of the family. I've got some great pics, but have to wait until we get home for that.
Naomi - Sorry about the stupid ILs - that just sucks. Your kids are beautiful though.
Bec - I love Halle's dress. Lovely pic
Judy - OMG - I have nothing else to say! What a day - glad it turned out semi-ok in the end.
Nikki - love your pic and Nathan's "fake" smile
Richelle - how are you feeling today?? Those posts cracked me up.
Anyway, have to work on getting myself together so we can get back to NJ and then drive to Buffalo tomorrow. UGH
Oh, and Kate, Barbados!! - that is awesome! What a great present!
Post by: kq on December 26, 2005, 19:50:48 pm
JUDY- I want to be like you when I grow up...
NAOMI-WTF???? I couldn't believe it when I read your post! I would be so ed that I would have to go for a run or hit something!:evil: :evil: Loved the pics of the kids.
NIKKI-that book sounds OK. Nathan's smile was priceless!!
RICHELLE-send some of that my way, would you?
TRACI-presents sound great!
It is now 2 days after Christmas. We had dh's brothers round for Christmas eve and the my family round for Christmas. No real dramas. I cooked, family bought some stuff...lovely lunch. Sam got thoroughly spoilt-toys, clothes etc! We don't see dh's parents but that is a whole other story!
Had to work Boxing Day but that was fine. I have next week off but am working most of this week.
I don't remember who said about the chat but it was all rather strange and I felt that there were 2 parallel (sp???) chats going on, the others obviously knew each other and we knew each other. Sorry I bailed out ladies but my head was starting to spin and I could not help thinking that I was rude not replying to them and how rude they were for totally ignoring us. How do we get round that one? Any ideas?
Bye for now. I am sure i will be back later and will have IL rant!
Thanks for being here ladies!
Karen
Post by: Richelle on December 26, 2005, 19:56:20 pm
Obviously my Christmas was full of *ahem* cheer? By the time we got home for the day at 530, we had 4 different couples drop by to say hi and 3 out of 4 of them brought champagne, which I ended up drinking on basically a empty stomach-we sort of had a chance to start dinner, anyway I am glad you ladies enjoyed the after effects of the bubbly - doesn't take much these days!
I am not as chipper as usual today though and DH and I have been lounging about. He has gone to watch boxing day football, I am up from my 2nd nap with Sophie and thought I would check in with my gals!
Traci - greta gifts from DH. DH here did well for me too but that it one of his strong suits. Let us know what you think if the UP book!
Judy - I hope that DH is helping you have a chilled out day or maybe I shouldn't bring it up? If anyone dserves to have a day off it is you. I am glad my surprisingly low tolerance helped!
Naomi - UGH to your holiday and DH and inlaws. I hop that dinner goes well today and Ankie is right trhat you are the better person to deal with them and be patient! Great pic's of the kids, by the way!
Ankie - I forgot to say way back that was a really neat story about your DH and his birth parents and that I thought too that it was such a compiment that Sophie looks like that cutie pie Arwyn!
Erin - good luck getting ready for your drive!
LIsa - 2 days alone with DH sounds heavenly and I don't think it is in anyway bad to be glad to be away from James for a couple of days!
Bec - Halle is adorable I LOVE her dress!
Nikki - I was LOL at Nathan's 'fake' smile - it is sooo cute.
I will post a couple of pictures of Sophie's first christmas!
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 26, 2005, 20:03:49 pm
Love the pics everyone!
What's been going on in the chat? I just haven't been able to make it. I know there used to be a general Friday night chat for everyone, has it now all separated out into groups? Sorry, I'm a bit clueless. :lol: If you've all got MSN, maybe you could do a chat that way?
Post by: Judy on December 26, 2005, 20:24:21 pm
I have to ask though, well I think I figured it out now... that picture of her is outside with a big blow up Christmas Tree and two snowmen right? Ok. :) When I first looked at it I thought the snowmen were feet/shoes and the 'branches of the tree leading to each snowman were the legs and then the higher branches the poke to each side of Sophie looked like big sagging boobs... I don't know why anyone would want to grow up to be me - my brain is retarded and I can be really crabby!! Anyway - I did figure the picture out but I still can't stop picturing the tree as sagging boobs (I think I've done too much breastfeeding over the last 4years)
So K&H aren't so into napping today. I think they've had three naps so far of like 40min, 20min (IF they both actually even fell asleep - I was napping myself - out of grouchiness and dh put them down) then again just now for maaaybeeeee 30min. All I know is I barely went to the bathroom, put a couple things away and sat down with a glass of water to work on a puzzle for ME and I heard them wake up.
Traci I can't wait to hear what you think of the UP book. I have/want to read mine again. I found it so inspiring but then as time passes and days get bogged down with life and muffin mushed into the carpet ;) I loose focus.
Andrea - how's your friend with the jerk dh doing?
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 26, 2005, 21:41:18 pm
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each side of Sophie looked like big sagging boobs...
OMG, LMAO, just had to go back and have a look and YES!!!
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my brain is retarded...
So your grandad predicted right way back when you couldn't crawl... :P
Post by: Colesmom on December 26, 2005, 23:11:01 pm
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then the higher branches the poke to each side of Sophie looked like big sagging boobs
apparently me retarded too because i thought the same thing! LOL
Lisa-two days alone with DH sound positively heavenly. Of course you will miss James but we all need our adult time. I cannot wait for the day when I can do that. For now I have to settle for a movie tomorrow night.
Nikki-we arranged the girls on our thread to chat fridays...and the other night there were 3 or 4 other girls...which is fine...but they weren't really chatting "with" us. Just there in their own group so there were two chats going on. I'm going to look into creating our own "room". I'm thinking there must be a way. Then we can have our own private chat. LOL, we are such snobs!!
Judy-Cole finished second nap at 2:30 today. first nap 40 min., second one 1:20. Not super long but glad i extended it from 30 min. :shock: Anyhoo, he just had a powersnooze on the boob at 5:20-5:35. Now I'm wondering when the heck to put this kid to bed? going to try for 7pm since it was such a short sleep. I'm hoping he won't last until 8pm but I knew even trying to get him to 6:30 would have been stretching it *sigh*. I'll figure this kid out before kindergarten I hope.
Richelle-gorgeous pics, love the dress
Naomi-you are a saint for dealing with those ILs. I absolutely love the pics. Turned out very very well :D
ummm, i think that's all :?
Post by: Judy on December 26, 2005, 23:44:16 pm
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So your grandad predicted right way back when you couldn't crawl... :Razz:
Yep Nikki I think you are right!! :)
Traci if the girls snoozed on the boob at 5.20pm I'd still go with our normal bedtime of 7pm ish.
They're slowly starting to do better at night. Last night Hannah slept right to 7am but then again they barely napped and didn't settle till 8pm with all the hustle and bustle in the house. Kaia woke at 4am and at 5.30am but each time just had to be repositioned. Odd they can move all over the place most the night but come 4am onward they seem to need me to come in and do it. But they didn't wake to feed till 7am :) :)
Post by: Richelle on December 27, 2005, 00:31:43 am
Post by: Jayri on December 27, 2005, 01:06:40 am
They were bowled over by Jayson and Riley, I never mentioned anything about the wrong day, but it will be quite a while before I do something like that again.
Thanks for the comments on the kids, I thought you would all like those, I was very proud of the b&w one.
Riley is having a bit of a hard time going down at night again, but she is also scooting on all fours, not quite crawling, but she will scoot on all fours to get to something she wants and then stop.
Oh!! traci I have lost a bit of weight...note I said a bit, but every little bit helps. I was a tight size 15 three weeks ago and now the pant I bought are snug. I have lost a heck of a lot off of my belly, I bought a pair of jeans the other week that sat just below the belly. now I have had to retire them as they make me look bigger tham I am due to the loss of my belly.
I walk to work everyday, which is about 45mins and I only have 1 caffine drink a day, and I aslo make sure I drink water at my desk.
I do treat myself once a week tho, but I am finding my appetite is going down, takes a little getting used to, as I am used to always being hungry.
Riley is still bf twice a day, like she would let me give that up.
Well ladies, I have one more day off till I go back to work, a four day break for xams was really nice...dh has the two of them all week and then they go back to their daycares next week,
Well toodles for now my fine hot mammas.......
Post by: kq on December 27, 2005, 03:37:47 am
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Well ya bunch of sickos!! I went back and looked and yes it does look like Sophie had two big sagging boobs on her head!! I knew I should have spanned the photo to include the whole tree!:D :D :D
Exactly what I thought when I saw the pics even before Judy mentioned them. :D :oops:
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 27, 2005, 04:54:57 am
I have missed you all so much but it has just been way too busy in our house the last 2 days to catch up and didn't want to deal with the dirty looks from dh for me sneaking on! :lol:
So anyhow, like someone else said, I think Hannah?, you girls are a great christmas gift and haev been such a wonderful sense of support for me.
I love everyone's pictures. Nikki and the family, too cute! And Naomi love the card. Richelle, next tiem you have to get Sophie away from the sagging breasts! As soon as I can get dh to download our pics I will post some as well.
Richelle, waht were you trying to say? You were cracking me up right now as I was catching up on the last 10 pages! :lol: I did the same thing about a month ago after DH and I had mango martinis. Remember that Hannah? I deleted the posts afterwards because I didn't watn you all to think I was a crazy lush, but now realize that it was very silly of me to do taht and being way over paranoid!! :lol: :lol:
So since you ask Judy, an update on my friend. Her D ick H ead admitted to doing it for the last 1.5 years!!! that is right around the time they got pg BTW! I think the guy probably told her when he did because he had just found out the day before and was crying and really hurt and probably wanted to "stick it" to D ick H ead really bad. But then I think he felt bad when he showed up to the house and realized they had a baby together. :cry: Either way it was quite possibly the worst time she could find out, btu then again is there ever really a good time to find that $hit out???
Us, we had a great Christmas! Taylor was a hit at my parents house Christmas Eve and stayed up Happily till 10:30! :shock: :? I tried to put her to bed several times but my parents house is so small there really wasn't a quite spot in the house, and then someone would come in and she'd smile and talk. She just seemed to be having such a good time eventhough she was sooooo tired, I just didn't have the heart to tell my family, time to go to bed now! I figured it is only once a year so to heck with the routine right?
:?: Anyone else have parents, IL's with other Grandchildren and feel that it is a competition? I just couldn't help feeling like some of the other g-kids got more than T? I know it is shameful for me to even think that, but I am just looking out for my baby KWIM? Am I the only one feeling like a competitive parent???
One last :?: for Judy and Nikki---so my sister and her 19 month old are over here baking on Friday night, and my nephew at one point pulls down on my christmas display and breaks some of my collectibles taht I really love. My sis proceeds to get mad at him and put him in time out and tell Auntie your sorry, on and on...Meanwhile he did this right in front of her and she was too busy reading a magazine to notice! :? :x I simply told her "don't get mad at him. he is just a little kid and we should have been watching him better" (by "we" I meant "her", but don't think she got the hint!). Do you think I handeld it right and am I naive in assuming that it really wasn't his fault?
Alright girls, this post is long enough and sorry I didn't comment on anyone else's lives/stories at the moment, but dh is waiting for me so we can watch Cinderella Man (we have to return it tonight).
Merry Belated Christmas!!!!!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 27, 2005, 05:05:47 am
Dh got me a Christmas card and signed it
Love, Art (your DH)
How freakin cute is he? just love him! :D
Also, on a random note, Traci, you mentioned something about the doorbell and someone saying it's good to get them used to noise? That is sooo annoying! I have had several people tell me that and I just think it is absolute nonsense! BTW, last week we finally disconnected the doorbell because we were so over it! :lol:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 27, 2005, 05:38:24 am
I'd be interested in hearing Judy's take on it too. :)
Post by: Judy on December 27, 2005, 12:16:34 pm
Andrea: so are both couples splitting up then? Is the idiot dh taking off with the other guys wife? What an awful situation. Feel so sorry for your friend. A year and a half? That's horrible!!!
As for your sis and nephew... it makes no sense, to me, to timeout the child. He was simply looking at and investigating something that looked very interesting to him. He has no concept that it's treasured, breakable, not meant for playing with. His mom should have been watching him (and you're probably right that she's clueless that your 'we' meant 'you' as in her!) and once it broke she should have, again my opinion, modelled for him an apology (rather than making him say something he didn't feel and likely doesn't fully understand) and then thought through suggestions for how to fix it/make things better for Auntie Andrea. This is an ongoing thing though and even if handled like this, he will not necessarily get it all this time... it's a process learning to respect other people's property (until they're 3-4 or even older doesn't the world pretty much belong to them? Aren't they supposed to touch/play with everything? :)) Nikki likely hit it right when she said your sis was trying to do something so you wouldn't think she was lax...
Post by: kate585 on December 27, 2005, 14:39:46 pm
Loved all the pictures and stories!
Ryan did pretty well on Christmas, considering he had only NINE hours of sleep the night before. Uggh! Did pretty well with the 5 hour car ride with 3 naps (1 hr., 45 min., 20 min.) throughout the day. He was so adorable and the family was all over him like a bad suit! I thought he would totally freak out, but he didn't. Had to take him home early as he was crabbing during presents and I could tell he had come to the end of his rope. Took me over 45 mins. to get him to sleep even though (or because?) he was so tired. Then, up at 12:30 and couldn't breath. :cry: Got a humidifier and the nose sucker and he was okay, but had to feed to calm. :shock: Ahhhhh! Not again!!! He did fine yesterday though and slept through last night. Phew!
Must run so Ryan can use my mom's office for his nap. Stupid baby. :lol: Haha! Dh was making fun of me yesterday when the computer guy was here to fix her computer. He kept holding out his hands toward the office and saying, "Baby Whisperer! Baby Whisperer!" like a baby crying for his mommy. :lol: What a nutball...but so right on. :oops: :D
Glad to be back in contact and that all the holidays seemed to go well...or at least turned out okay in the end.
Much love from Chicago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Colesmom on December 27, 2005, 20:23:43 pm
Well girls...there was no catnap for the last three days and our little smuggies woke every two hours last night. settled pretty well each time (and fed at 3) but man does it make for a long night. today he's had a 45 and 1 hour nap. He'll have a 30 min. catnap from 5-5:30 then bed at ??? I used to think he needed 2.5 hours after catnap but i'm not sure. ILs are coming so DH and I can go to a movie. Not sure whether to go to 5pm movie, let MIL put Cole down for catnap and be home for bed, or to hope he goes down well at 8 and make 8:45 movie. would make a late night getting home for the ILs though as we'd get home at 11:45 or so and they have 45 min. drive home. *sigh* the ongoing sleep saga of cole.
I LOVE hearing how you girls would handle these discipline situations. I've only read a few pages of UP and I'm already hooked. can't wait to get further on.
okay, off to the nap board.
Post by: becca24 on December 27, 2005, 22:37:18 pm
Hope you all had a great Christmas. We had a pretty good one here although it was an absolute scorcher!! Christmas Eve was lunch at my fathers. He has recently had a pool put in and it is all undercover with a big deck and bar area!! It looks like a resort!! I told him I will house sit anytime!! Halle did well all day and even had a nap in her pram with all the noise going on. She was a bit overwhelmed with all the people she has never met before (father's family). His sister took her upstairs at one point and tried to put her to sleep :evil: :evil: :evil: What an idiot. As if she is going to go to sleep on someone's nap she has never met before!! She didn't even ask me if it was ok :evil:
That night we went to the pub for my Mum's birthday. I got my Nanna to sit with her. I asked Nan to come down a bit earlier and help with dinner and bath so if Halle woke up later it would not be a shock that we were gone but Nan was there KWIM? She was alseep by 7.20 so DH and I went off to the pub for a few drinks. Nanna called at 10.30 to say we had better come home as she will not stop crying :( . When I walked in the door I could hear her crying, it was so scary as she has not cried like that for a long time :cry: I mean she has cried but this was a really distressed kind of sound :cry: :cry: I am not sure what happened because I told Nan not to rush in with every sound and if she does cry just make sure she has her lovey. I would say that she made a little peep and Nan has rushed in and swooped her up :roll: Then she had her out watching TV or something :shock: . By the time I got back dd was bawling and Nan was saying "Come on Come on Come on" in a really panicky voice :shock: As if that's going to calm her down :roll: Anyway she soon calmed down and went back to sleep after a BF. Luckily I had only had a couple of Kahluah's :oops:
Christmas day was good also with Lunch at DH's sisters new house. His other sister's IL's were over from England and cooked a yummy lunch for us. Such nice people. I kept getting the mother to say 'Halle' over and over again because it sounded so nice when she said it :lol: That night it was back to my Mum's for a dinner of Crabs and Prawns YUM YUM I love seafood :D :D I managed to get Halle to sleep in her portacot. Then later that night I carried her home (l live right behind mum's) She woke up because I had to carry her past everyone and they all wanted to ooohhh and ahhh at her :roll: :lol: Oh well a quick feed at home and she settled to sleep after a bit of mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Halle did very well with SOOOOO many presents I can't believe it !!. I actually put some of the things away that 'Santa' got her because she got way too much stuff from everyone else. I can bring them out when she is sick of/or ruined the others :lol: .
SIL rant :twisted: My brother's wife is a twit, there is no other word to describe her really :roll: I would fill up every page available on this forum if I was to tell you every stupid, idiotic thing she has done. I had an argument with her about getting Halle's photo taken with Santa. She said it was not funny that Halle was crying in the photo and that I might has well have left her sitting on the knee of a pedophile :shock: This is coming from someone who has her kids at the pub until midnight, running around in the public bar while she plays the poker machines :evil: :evil: .
Earlier in the evening she was eating a Chocolate/Hazlenut slice and got a bit on her finger and shoved in Halle's mouth before I even realised what she was doing :evil: :evil: :evil: . If she wasn't married to my brother I would have knocked her out years ago !!!!!!!!!!
Post by: becca24 on December 27, 2005, 23:21:42 pm
Another thing that happened on Christmas night was that it took my a while to get Halle to settle in the portacot. She was not screaming or anything but was whinging and I would put her down, pick her up. BF again etc etc Then I was going back inside waiting for her to settle and stop mmmmm mmmm mmming :roll: . before I had a drink. Anyway there was one of Mum's friends there and her son (he is my age) is really wierd.(She knows that everyone thinks he is weird.) When I came back outside after settling Halle, I caught them talking about CIO but they went quiet when I came out. So I said what are you talking about? She said maybe you should let Halle CIO, it only takes 3 to 5 days to work !!! Well I was so angry but I just looked at her with a smart-arse grin and said "Is that what you did with your son??" :lol: :lol: That soon shut her up LOL
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 28, 2005, 00:56:38 am
Karen, just needed to let you know that the rice porridge came out sooooo yummy (in fact I'm sitting eating a bowlful since I didn't get much for lunch :oops: ). Hopefully the kids like it, cause it's their dinner tonight :lol: . I got a recipe book from my mum for xmas (yes I did WELL for books this year, in fact brought myself 5 with money I got) and it had a congee recipe in it.
Traci, pleased to hear you're enjoying UP, can't wait to get my copy - although I have already got 4 books on the go at the moment, :roll: and where's the time to read them? :? Even need to get a bit of study in there too.
Well DH is back at work today - not sure how it usually works in the Northern Hemisphere, but most people here take their main holidays at this time since it's summer (usually about 3wks in total since there are so many statutory holidays), DH's work are short on staff so he's working until New Years' Eve and then will have next week off.
I can hear little bangs on the wall with Nathan waking up, so better get going - he likes my full undivided attention when he comes out of his room, gosh better go put him in time out for it.... :wink: :P
Post by: Diego's Mama on December 28, 2005, 02:21:43 am
Am encouraging long thread to begin new ones for 2006 -- not a requirement, just an encouragement. Wouldn't it be easier to keep track of? Or are conversations too complicated to transfer over?
:)
Post by: becca24 on December 28, 2005, 02:30:45 am
One of us (Andrea? Traci?) usually starts a new thread when we get to 100 pages!! (we seem to have gotten to 100 very quickly this time!!) So I am sure a new one will be started very soon.
Post by: Judy on December 28, 2005, 02:51:26 am
Bec, gosh a few comments. I cannot, CANNOT believe that someone at one of your parties (your dad's I think?) actually took Halle off to put her down for a nap? Without asking you if you wanted this to happen? How freakin' nervy is that?
I know exactly the sobbing cry you are talking about when your Nan called you home to be with Halle. I think they just get so upset realizing you aren't there. It's so hard for them to understand that they can be ok without mom around. I often think my girls fear for their very lives if they don't know where their food source (ME) is. Did you then get those big breathy sobs while she was feeding? Breaks the heart but makes you feel good that you are comforting them all at the same time.
As for your SIL - she takes her children to the pub, while she plays the poker machines? Yeah, I'd pretty much discount her comments and thoughts. :roll:
Post by: becca24 on December 28, 2005, 03:03:14 am
Halle did do the big breathy sobs :cry: :cry: It did break my heart and my poor old Nan's too :lol:
With my SIL, she has some very strange ways. She seems to be making my brothers life miserable :( He does not want to leave the kids (his two boys plus two step-kids) I mainly keep my mouth shut so as not to upset him. But I have heard so many more things about her and I am not sure to tell him or keep quiet........................ as I said I could take up another 500 pages with her crap!!
OOOHH DH is home we are off to the hospital to visit our friends little baby boy born on Christmas Eve !!!!
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 28, 2005, 04:45:50 am
Naomi - those pictures turned out so well! What beauties you have, they do look like you ya know! Congrats on the weight loss - great to fit comfortably into a pair of jeans isn't it??
Richelle - love the pic of Sophie and the boobs around her head!! LMAO!! Had a good laugh at some of your crazy posts. You do crack us all up, thank goodness for that!
Andrea - very adorable new avatar of Taylor!! Those rosy red cheeks are too irresistable! I'd wanna squeeze those all day :) LMAO at your DH, gotta love his sense of humour!
Bec - what kind of person takes a child and tries to give them a nap without asking the parent?? That is just very very strange if you ask me!! Poor little Halle.
We had a very nice quiet Christmas here. Had my Mom and Grandma over as they are both alone. Mason was at his Dad's so was just us on Christmas morning. No rushing around to get Santa presents opened etc. Molly had a ball playing with paper and tissue paper and peeking in the presents bags but other than that I am sure she didn't really know what was happening. She got a ton of presents of course! Will try to find a couple of pics (out of about 100 that I took) to post for you all!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 28, 2005, 04:57:28 am
Andrea I am so impressed that you kept taylor up for the festivities....I felt really bad at MILs because dinner kept getting pushed later and later etc so Sophie was getting pretty crabby. This was after our night out chirstmas eve so I thought I would just put her down. Anyhow...it ended up that I was putting her down during dinner! Ugh. I felt like such an idiot...not because I wasn't doing the right thng for her but I don't know I just felt like I should have kept her up for everyone else...MIL is so wonderful to us and here I am putting her grandchild to bed before dinner (or presents!) on Christmas...I guess just chalk it up to poor planning. You know? I mean they know what time she goes to bed...but there were extenuating circumstances...a prime rib that wasn't done...Brendan still had not arrived from his mom's etc etc. The worst part was dh though. He was really not supportive. In fact later I said something like "I am sorry I had to out her down..." and he said "well you didn't HAVE to" WTF?! Where has he been the last 8 months???
So, determined not to take any sh!t these days I said "Well, you didn't HAVE to have a nap today, nor did you HAVE to eat dinner when you were hungry. ANd, you don't HAVE to go to sleep tonight when you are tired. " I just get so frustrated sometimes with him.
ANother rant...yesterday we are sitting in the living room playing with Sophie...actually I am plying he is moping on the couch. So he turns on the tv...mind you this is the SAME GUY who almost started crying the other night because he doesn't get to spend enough time with his daughter...well she's right HERE you idiot! Spend some time with her! So I say "Honey, if you really have to watch tv right now I'll take Sophie in the other room to play" He mopes...and turns it off, then stews for a few minutes and finally says something like "we are going to have to figure out this whole tv thing"...I'm thinking you mean like when we decided together the other night not to watch tv with her in the room...you agreed willingly...or maybe not?! SO anyhow it's just annoying. I just so badly want to be supportive but at the same time I feel the need to call Bull Sh!t on so many of the things he says. ARgh. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
I just kind of feel like christmas basically s ucked this year because he was such a little black cloud.
And then...I feel guilty because I gave him socks and underwear as two of his three presents...well...he didn't even want to gove presents to each other this year WTF?! I hate sh!t like that. I mean really.
OK, one more rant and then I have to unpack my groceries :)
So yesterday he lies down with me and Sophie while I am reading to her and after I put her down I go back in to lay down next to him. She was having trouble settling so I was staying nearby to listen/help if needed. Anyhow, he just flops his hand over on my boob! And I'm thinking...nice...reaaaaallllll romnatic buddy. I mean really what's going through his head...maybe if I just grab her boob she'll wanta do me? Come on! It's like those losers that yell "Hey baby" out of there car driving past you on the street...oooo what a turn on...the only problem is....I am married to this one, I can't just give him the finger and keep walking.
SO today I was sitting at the computer and he does the boob grab thing again so I say "You know, boobs are second base...you have to pass first before you can get there" and he says "Not when you are married!" I ask you again W T F ????!!!!
Am I married to the biggest loser or what?! I really know I'm not...he's just had a few pretty bad days. But still. I mean really. CIGAW? (I saw that acronym on the board and just about peed my pants...it's Can I Get A Witness :lol:
OK, this is way too long. thanks, as always for listening/reading. If you have read this far. Thank you!
Richelle....I think I need you to pour me a tall glass of the bubbly babe.
*sigh of relief* it's out...it's on "paper" I feel a little lighter.
Hannah
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 28, 2005, 05:47:18 am
Judy and Nikki-thanks so much for confirming what I had pretty much already thought. And yes, she was so putting up a fuss with him to try and look tough, but really there was no need. I feel kind of lucky actually to have 3 different siblings/in-laws to model parenting styles (or not model :roll: ) being that I have 2 nephews and 1 niece all age 19-22 months. I get to see what works and what doesn't and get a lot of good tips just by observation.
Michelle, thanks for noticing T's new avatar! Molly looks so stinking cute I could just kiss her! She looks like a little queen sitting under the tree surrounded by all her loot! Mason is growing into a handsome young man isn't he? There is something about her smile that kind of reminds me of T actually-have always thought that. :)
Bec-SIL sounds like a nut job! don't pay any attention to her for your own sanity! WTF about the aunt trying to put Halle down for a nap?!? some people! jeez :x
So quick :?: how do your dh's react when your lo's get hurt? I know I am not supposed to overreact as they feed a lot off of our reactions. But if she fell (which happens a lot now that she is so mobile), and is really hurting, I feel a cuddle and kiss are absolutely necessary. DH just picks her up and says "you're okay and totally tries to distract her by being goofy. I finally told him yesterday that if she is hurt then we should acknowledge it and not ignore it. do you know what I mean? what do you all think? to react or not to react, that is the question! :lol:
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 28, 2005, 06:36:09 am
Hannah, my DH also took a bit of convincing to not have the TV on automatically when Nathan was a baby, he'd also complain about not getting to see him enough, then go an zone out with Nathan on the floor. He's fine with no having the telly on these days though.
Michelle, Danielle absolutely loved her wrapping paper too!
Nothing new going on here for us today, oh Karen, Danielle scoffed up her congee (I had chicken, courgette, carrot and kumara in it with some ginger for flavour) - Nathan was a bit more hesitant but did eventually eat it.
Post by: Richelle on December 28, 2005, 13:22:09 pm
Nikki - Do you never have the TVon?
How about everyone else?
Traci - hope you had a great time at the movies!
Becc - I can't believe that someone tried to put Halle down for a nap AND tried to feed her chocolate with nuts :shock: ! One of the parties we stopped by on Christmas I hovered over Sophie and DH told me to relax but I knew these people were the type to do whatever they felt like with Sophie and sure enough no sooner had I said it did I find someone handing Sophie a piece of chocolate! As for SIL - I think that if it is going to help your brother you should talk to him about it but if he is already miserable and knows what a nutbar she is, it may just make him feel worse of you confirm what he already knows? The same thing happened with my brother and his ex - she was a nightmare but I kept quiet ( with him but she was fair game with the rest of my family :wink: ) I knew that it would only make him feel bad, KWIM?
Michelle - Molly is such a doll! Sophie as well was all about the boxes and paper and bows!
Andrea - Wow I just said to DH yesterday, 'please don;t tell Sophie she is OK when she isn;t.' He didn;t realize he was even saying it, he just wanted to comfort her, which is sweet. He is very much a 'man's man' IYKWIM and I am worried sometimes that he will be a 'tough guy' with Sophie, but it is jst the opposite. Yesterday she pulled herself up on her toy chest and leaned back and fell right over and whacked her head, well I have never her cry so hard, I think mostly from being scared and DH agreed wholeheartedly that of course we shouldn't try and tell her she is OK when she is not, phew! When she has her other 'fall's' it is just a matter of hanging back and waiting for her reaction - which is sooo hard sometimes!! The new Avatar is gorgeous!!
Judy - I called Sophie boob head yeaterday :shock: after I got off here - I hope you are happy! :lol:
Post by: Judy on December 28, 2005, 15:56:05 pm
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Judy - I called Sophie boob head yeaterday :shock: after I got off here - I hope you are happy! :lol:
LOL!!
Ok let's see:
TV - we rarely have the tv on for OUR stuff if the girls are awake and if we do it would be the cooking network or something without scarry commercials and mouthy people. As your kids get older and start repeating everything they hear it seems easier to make the decision to keep the tv off. But every child is different. Zoe has an ear for details :) Even when I have the radio on - I listen to talk radio (only for about 30min a day because it's about all the 'extra' noise I can take ;)) anyway, she hears it all and will say "oh, they said "Bill", daddy has a friend named Bill, he's a fireman" "oh they said "cloudy day" that's silly" she doesn't get the 'conversation but definitely hears many of the words. So now, we let them watch more tv than we used to but it's only their shows like Dora or Blue's Clues. Mostly they watch their tapes and dvds. It's hard to avoid with Sarah as she is very determined - I've unplugged the tv, she plugged it back in :), I changed the channel so the vcr didn't come through, she just kept at it till she was back at channel 3 :), the only success I have is putting the videos on the fridge - but Zoe can climb the counter and reach the fridge :roll: In the end though I feel that an hour is A LOT so they rarely get more than that. But if they manage to work around me and sneak a tape and get it in and working I let them have half of it - I don't want to fight with them over something they really want for themselves and is basically harmless. I look at it like this - two options, 1. tell them no, take it away, make them mad and sad, they yell at me and cry and carry on. basically a yucky environment or 2. they get 30 min of tv. I give in to the tv - this is usually if I am nursing and I am not able to do something else with them. If I'm not nursing or otherwise busy with something I can't or prefer not to stop then I try to engage them in something we all want to do instead.
As for hurts. We too try to let them decide the level of hurt and tears involved. It is hard because their cries get louder and louder as they age it seems and there are times I'm shhhhhing them because I don't want Kaia and Hannah woken up. :( Not so fair to the one who got hurt though. DH tends to make a BIG deal out of hurts and this causes them (Z especially) to get more upset and panick a bit. I remember Zoe once dropped a full jar of pickles on her toe outa the fridge and broke the nail off. It was a big bad ouchie. But for days dh would ask to look at it and ask if it was still really sore and everytime it made her cry about it when she'd otherwise forgotten :roll: He's very odd about it... for example. Sarah once was jumping on her bed (a no no here as the window is level with the bed and within a half a foot of her bed) and she fell and landed with her cheek RIGHT below her eye on the corner of her footboard and he went on and on at me about how he was going to saw off the footboard so it was level with the bed - blah blah blah blah blah. While I said they needed to learn that jumping on the bed was not a good idea (not saying they should get hurt to learn it, but pointing out that she wasn't supposed to be doing it anyway so if they stopped there shouldn't be cause for future concern). BUT he took the gate off the top of our stairs the other day and I pointed out that they run circles around the house and our top landing is only 2ft square and they run right through this area - if the trip or bump each other someone will go flying down the stairs and he says "they'll learn" ok - with what a broken neck? I think he just likes to be the decision maker :P But mama bear rules ;)
ok what else? Andrea - yes, lovely new avatar of Taylor.
Poor Kaia is having a hard time pooping. She pushes and pushes with so much effort and CRIES :( so hard and then there's barely a dime sized pasty poop in the diaper :( :( All she eats is cereal?? And it's not rice? I did give her some applesauce the other night and Hannah didn't want any so Kaia got a big serving, happily :) Must be it. :( So she's been fed a lot of prunes today. Eeek - watch out! She was awake 4 or 5 times last night. Just needed one pu/pd but I think her tummy was sore. Had to check her diaper a few times, once with a tiny poop and the others smelled bad but I think I came in just after a toot :oops: poor baby!
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 28, 2005, 17:16:38 pm
Andrea, I agree nice Avatar. Thanks for the light switch comment, I'll have to use that one. Also, dh tries the distraction thing a lot with Sophie and I have to remind him that it's ok for her to be sad until she's done....I'm with Nikki and Judy and everyone else...good advice on the hurts.
Richelle....I guess I really don't know what I am worried about with the whole tv thing. I have heard so much about tv under the age of two being linked to add and adhd in children...but I know some of these "studies" are probably less then certain. But I guess I just still worry that it's just too much information for her little developing brain. All of the light flashing and sounds. And the thing is that she is soooo interested in it. We have a pretty small place and a medium sized tv, but when the tv is on it's really hard to escape YKWIM? Maybe if I had it on more she would loose interest. I think we need to find a way to put it up a little higher so it's not right at her level (standing level). When BE is on she has taken to trying to pull herself up on the tv table...because well, you know, BE is just so much better when you are two cm away from the screen right? So we have put two ottomans in front of the tv table and now she likes to stand at the ottomans to watch...so she's about oh I don't know, a foot and a half away from the screen now
:roll: Anyhow. I am so glad that you don't care about having the tv on. It makes me feel better. Sometimes I think I am a little highstrung about these things (ya think?) and dh and I and Sophie would all be happier if mom would just chill. Thanks for helping me chill. :D
Michelle....how old is Mason? He must be close to Brendan's age. Do he and Molly have different dads? Curious to know more because of our "mixed" family situation with Brendan. Of course that whole deal has it's own set of ups and downs.
Judy...Hope Kaia poops soon. :lol: We say at our house "Poopin' ain't easy"....don't know if anyone will get that...remember (this is sooo awful) that rap song..."Pimpin' ain't easy"? Well we're not big rap fans but that one just seems so appropriate :lol:
Bec...I can't believe someone else tried to put Halle down... and the whole chocolate/nuts/feeding someone else's child...it reminds me of a time when friends used to think it would be funny to give beer (or blow a certain type of smoke) etc...to their dogs/cats etc...so not funny(to me anyway)
Okey dokey. Gotta go hang with the B-man. Dh back to work today Sophie sleeping so it's just me and Mr. B.
I'll check in later.
Hannah
PS...Boob-head LOL
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 28, 2005, 17:58:30 pm
Richelle, no I don't have the telly on during the day at all (I used to until Nathan was 6mths old and then he'd watch morning kids tv only until he was around 12mths old), but come 4pm and I put a DVD on for Nathan for an hour and often Danielle will be in the room too now that she doesn't have a catnap - it's usually a Baby Einstein one since they're pretty slow moving etc and unobnoxious, and also like Judy, I think too much "noise" tends to get to me eventually, so I like the music (I do have the radio on all day though unless Nathan is putting on one of his nursery rhyme CD's) and he also learnt most of his shapes and colours one of them. The other day I had the TV on after the movie finished and we were watching it and an ad for Narnia movie came on and it was pretty scary - the big lion leaping at the screen etc, he wakes enough during the night without having that sort of image as well, he knows when something's scary. DH tends to put on Shrek for him in the weekends which I think is a bit scary in parts...they also watch windsurfing DVDs. I found he started playing with his toys so much better when I turned the tv off during the day, he was getting bored and not very imaginative and quite whiny.
Besides, I tend to have the computer on during the day, so I don't feel the need for the TV anymore, I'd rather be here.
Judy, hope Kaia's pooping has improved.
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 28, 2005, 18:34:13 pm
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Maybe if I had it on more she would loose interest.
So I was thinking about this while I just had my shower (you know when you're addicted to BW when.... :wink: ) and I don't think this would be the case. Think of those kids and adults out there who are couch potatoes, the more they watch TV doesn't seem to get it out of their system (and me and DH watch TV (well I multitask with my laptop) for hours night after night with no desire to do anything else). I think to a degree they do block it out, but I found Nathan didn't really get into his toy playing to the same level because his train of thought was always being interrupted, so he was more mooching around rather than having active play.
OK, off to get kids dressed.
Post by: Richelle on December 28, 2005, 22:39:16 pm
By the way....where the heck is everyone?????????
Post by: kq on December 28, 2005, 22:51:12 pm
Have I missed all of you! Have just caught up and should have taken notes. The memory is shot so here goes....
TV-Ahhh I have a huge thing about TV and hate it with a passion unless House or the Gilmore Girls is on. :wink: Anyway, cannot stand it for the noise so we never have it on. Sam mainly plays in the kitchen or downstairs so he is not even in the same room. He does not even watch BE at this stage. That is just me,my dad is a TV addict and we used to have to talk over the top of it which I used to hate!!!! When Sam is older and understands more, I will probably only have Kid's TV on.
LOL at the light switch comment! Will have to file that one away for future use!
Andrea, the new Avatar-let me at those cheeks :D
Michelle and Bec, loved the Christmas dresses on the girls!
I treated myself to Annabel Karmel's new baby and toddler cookbook and am inspired. Made some vege pasta sauce yesterday which was really yummy!!
Nikki, glad you liked the rice porridge! I adore it as does Sam and he could eat it all day everyday. The possibilities are endless. The other day, I grated some corn into it and added some chicken-like chicken and corn soup! Oh I have mixed it with a hardboiled egg yolk and also flaked some steamed fish (terakihi) into it...you get the picture.
Judy, did the prunes work?
Oh and Sam gets hurt a lot!! He is climbing everthing and pulls stuff off tables and loses his balance. I also just wait for a response and if he needs a cuddle, he gets one. Thanks Nikki on the tip on helping him vocalise his feelings.
Anyway, here is a family Christmas pic...
Post by: becca24 on December 28, 2005, 23:12:53 pm
Hannah - funny about the light switch comment! I think my DH has given up even asking LOL. That is not funny really :lol: :lol: This could be TMI but still having trouble with that area due to having sooo many stitches. I really must get back to the Women's Health Nurse to see what can be done about it............mmmmm one day LOL
Judy -hope Kaia's poops get better. Halle is STILL having trouble with hers. What I think happend was she got constipated and it really hurt her to poo. So now she holds it in. When she finally goes it hurts, so we just go around in a circle. :(
TV - I don't put it on through the day but I love to watch a few shows (Third Watch is my fave at the moment!!) I put a DVD on for Halle some afternoons if it's too hot to walk down to the horses. She has one called Baby Bright 2 which she loves. It goes for about 30mins and she will watch the whole thing while lying back on a pillow sucking on a sippy of cold water LOL. Gives me time to prepare tea (dinner) or fold washing. I got her a BE one for Christmas but she is not interested in it at all. DH loves to watch the news and I am trying to get him out of the habit of watching TV while we are eating tea :evil: When I lived at home we all had to sit down to meals together (I lived with my grandparents, mum, uncle, aunt and my brother) at the time I thought that was so boring but now I want us to do it LOL.
Karen - great family pic! If you don't mind me saying you DH is a good sort!! Is he Maori? My DH wont let me go to NZ because her reckons I will run off with a hot Maori guy LOL :lol: (JK) Well they are yummy LOL
Would you mind posting that rice recipe? - sounds good
Post by: Judy on December 29, 2005, 00:07:52 am
Wonderful family photo Karen!! :)
Poop - nope no better. In fact Kaia just had another pushing/crying/screaming/turning beat red episode as I was reading here. :( Still nothing more than a rabbit size poop coming out. But I have a homeopathic remedy from my girlfriend that she used on her daughter when this same thing happened. It only took a couple doses to work and we've got one in already and another before bed so here's to hoping!!! It's a tissue salt remedy so what it does is help the body to soften the stool that is in there already, enough for it to come out more easily. The prunes are doing nothing. Golly though I'm not sure what the issue is - applesauce? I already gave up on banana for her. I did recently give them mulitgrain cereal - maybe the extra fibre was too much since they aren't taking in a whole lot of water yet? Oh poor thing she's come off eating and trying again. It's so sad makes me want to cry right along with her.
So we're a relatively quiet bunch... I suspect there's a lot of dhs home between Christmas and New Year? ;)
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 29, 2005, 00:25:13 am
Bec, my fav programme (where I actually do turn off the laptop for) at the moment is Without A Trace but it finishs next week. I used to watch McLeods Daughters (in fact you and your DH look like you'd fit right into that set - can imagine you both riding horses around your station. :lol: Which BE did you buy?
Karen, yes the possibilities are endless with the rice, I think it would be a great way to do fish when I get around to it. Do you add any other flavourings? Love the family pic.
Post by: Colesmom on December 29, 2005, 01:40:21 am
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I have said to DH before that I am not a lamp - turned on by the flip of a switchBrilliant Richelle!
hannah-my DH does the same darn thing with the grabbing. stupid men. of course, he hasn't tried in a while because I'm still working on about 4 hours sleep at night. more on that in a bit.
Karen-love the pic.
Bec-sorry to hear Halle is still having trouble with her poop. And I totally forgot to mention if I haven't already that there is no way you should be going after any maori guys because your DH is smokin' hot!
Like everyone else said-totally screwy about people putting Halle down for naps and feeding her chocolate. a store clerk offered Cole a candy cane the other day :roll:
Andrea and Michelle-my gosh your girls are stunning. love love love the rosey red cheeks on both!
Andrea-DH and I are on board with the "see how he is first" stragegy when it comes to hurts. We are big on distraction as MOST of the time it's just a scare. He does get lots of hugs and kisses from us though if it's a real hurt.
TV-i have it on in the mornings for my favourite show. so it's on one hour or two if I am watching last weeks repeat as well :D Usually do one BE video each day...but DH usually beats me to it in the early morning hours. and yes hannah-cole loves to stand at the tv and watch. I'm constantly pulling him away so now we have cuddle time on the couch and he sits on my lap and we watch it together.
Judy-oooooh, you're making me cry too...poor little thing. It much hurt so bad. Fortunately even when Cole's poops are hard he still manages to get them out okay. think he's had upset tummy lately too though as some of his poops are soft and sour. yuck!
sooo, we saw Narnia last night. Really enjoyed it. Decided to stay home and do bedtime with Cole. Didn't want to be rushed getting home etc. Told MIL what to do if he got up and cried. PD then hand on hip (YES, I am still a hostage, going to work on that in the next couple of days).
Anyway, as we were driving I said to DH, hmmm, I forgot to tell her to leave him if he mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmms (did that twice the night before and didn't need help). Anyway, he woke twice I guess but all he did was mmmmmmmmmmmmm. She went in a put her hand on him but she said he didn't budge, didn't hold her hand or anything. So YAY-Cole slept the whole time.
Then BOOOOOOOOOOOO! I went to bed at midnight and he woke when? 12:20! up til 1:20, then up 3:30-5:15, then 6am for a few minutes, then slept til 7:20 :roll: . I would much rather just have him go all night and get up at 5:30 for crying out loud. Anyway, we have a party to go to tomorrow night then I am doing full on PUPD, I swear...no *&()&^^%* hand holding. I am soooooooooooo sick of this sleep S.H.*.T. seriously. I want to sleep ONE full night before we try to TTC.
Anyway, I know it's all my fault. His top tooth still isn't in so I'm feeling sorry for him all the time. Poor thing, it's really red and swollen today so it had BETTER come in! Oh, and if I didn't mention Monday night he was up every TWO hours after going 3 days without catnap. :roll: :roll: :roll:
i haven't moved my pc, but that's not the darn issue. My connection is crap during the day and I'm not sure why. so frustrating to come up with coffee and toast and not be able to get on :cry:
anyway, gotta go do some freaking laundry. might pop into chat. not sure i want to unless any of you girls will be there?
Post by: sophieandhannah on December 29, 2005, 01:44:17 am
Hannah
Post by: Colesmom on December 29, 2005, 01:46:37 am
Post by: Carter'sMama on December 29, 2005, 03:30:00 am
Carter got some pretty nice gifts (mostly from us)!! DH's family all thinks that because we are the only ones married and own a house that we shoudl spend lots of money on presents but no one else has too!! DH's older sister bought Carter like 5 books all from the second hand store for $.50 each!! He got a lot of little things. Our best friends spent more on me and Dh than our families did!! Weird!!!
Carter did amazingly well the whole week. He still managed to have 2 naps a day in his pack 'n play. We stayed at a total of 4 different houses in 5 days so he must have been pretty confused. He slept through every night except the last one but he did get up at 6:00am (an hour earlier than normal) every day. His naps were generally an hour and then 45 mins so he was in good spirits most of the time. It was pretty chaotic because we were doing so much running around. On Christmas day we had 2 family dinners as well as Boxing Day. We had to keep packing up the darn pack 'n play to take it everywhere. We are definitely not planning on going home again anytime soon.
I did get to try acupuncture for the first time ever over the holidays. Has anyone had it done before? MIL is a massage therapist/acupuncturist etc. DH got a message to help with his neck (from the car accident) and she wanted to do the acumpuncture to help my knee. I wrecked it about a week before Christmas (I've always had bad knees from sports injuries) and couldn't really bend it at all. She put 14 needles into the right side of my body and my head. It didn't hurt at all! I was surprised. I told her I was a wimp and didn't think I could handle it and she said "You went through 17 hours of labour ... you're not a wimp!!!" Anyway, my knee felt much better yesterday and today so stupid me .. I went for a run after dinner because it is so mild here (+4 degrees) and now I can't really put any weight on my knee :( I guess I should go to a Dr ...
Richelle: I was trying to figure out what the heck you were trying to type!!! You had me laughing!!
Hannah: We don't have the tv on very often when Carter is around. When he was really little he would get way to overstimulated. We tried the baby einstein videos a couple of times but he doesn't have any interest in them.
I forget who was talking about doorbells but I agree!! I covered ours up so people can't ring it!! My family kept saying "You can't keep it quiet all the time, he has to learn to sleep with some noise" and I am so sick of hearing it. I always say "If you want to be the one to deal with him when he hasn't gotten enough sleep then be my guest" They seem to forget what it was like to have babies around. Besides, some noise is ok, yelling and screaming and slamming doors outside of my sleeping baby's room is not!!!
Anyway, I think I am done here for now. I have brain overload!!! I am going to see if anyone made it to chat! Have a good night everyone!!
Post by: solnme on December 29, 2005, 03:53:14 am
Haven't been on for awhile, still on holiday but just wanted to pop in and say hello!
Trip is going really well. Sol has adapted famously but hasn't had an afternoon nap in 5 days. Yikes! I'm going to try to sneak back on after everyone gets drunk(again) tonight.
I think that I read that Kate is going to Barbados. Good for you! I'm related to half the island so let me know if you want some local hook ups and insider island tips. a.k.a cheaper prices and lots of laughs :wink:
talk to you all later.
Post by: becca24 on December 29, 2005, 03:55:23 am
Hannah - meant to ask you earlier - what exactly do you mean by "other kinds of smoke" hmmmmmmmm??????? 8) 8) 8) Please Explain :lol:
Judy - I agree, prunes do Jack-S H I T - no pun intended LOL
Nikki - I am still laughing at the McLeods Daughter's thing!! DH has only ridden my horse once. I was LEADING him like a pony ride, my horse side stepped away from a BUTTERFLY and he freaked out and jumped off LOL. I had to ask what happened because it was such a small step I didn't even look around - He said "It tried to buck me off" :roll: :roll: He is 198cm tall and looked really goofy on my horse even though she is not small !!!! He is a surfer and I will only go in up to waist height !! I love the beach though but I am happy to watch him surf from the sand LOL (and Jo if you are reading this...yes the waves are another phobia :wink: )
The BE DVD is - Baby Neptune
Cathy - totally with you on that noise thing - I will do ANYTHING for sleep including being as quiet as I can manage!! I cop it all the time from my family as well. I even had my Nan telling me I must have 'taught' her to be distracted by noise when she is feeding :roll: :roll:
Hi Roz!!
:?: How did everyone find this site?? We might have been through this already but I don't remember :? I found it because it said "Baby Whisperer" and I was looking up "baby sleep" on google. I am into so called "Horse Whispering" so I thought Hey that must be good!!! :D
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 29, 2005, 04:15:02 am
Judy-hope Kaia poops soon poor thing. I was having to spoon feed Taylor water for a while when she was getting really constipated. Switched to oatmeal cereal as well, and have started adding flaxmeal to her cereal since she was 8 months and that has REALLY helped out! You can get it ground at a healthfood/organic type of food store and it actually gives the cereal a nice nutty taste and loaded with fibre! Also if all else fails, I have had to give taylor an infant glycerine suppository twice and MAN does that thing work! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Thanks girls on all the comments about the reacting to injuries. I am pretty much with all of you, hold back but defintely give some love when necessary. I know DH is just trying to make her feel better and can't stand to see her hurt, but inadvertantly ignoring her feeligns too. Will have to explain it to him that way; really nice so he doesn't get all defensive.
Karen-what a great picture! your husband is very handsome; he actually looks like the actor that was in the Last Samurai and Batman Begins-do you know who I mean?
Traci-good luck with the pu/pd soon and good luck tonight. BTW, I want to see Narnia sooooo bad! CS Lewis was my absoulte favorite author growing up!
So girls, guess what I found little miss T. doing last night at 1 am? She was freakin' standing in her crib!!! I know some of your lo's have been doing that for a while, but still such a shock for your own child to do it! So we're going to have to work on practicing her sitting down from a standing position so we don't have to resuce her every night! Anyone have any tips?
BTW, not a lot of tv watching here either. Sometimes we let her watch 1 round of BE (MIL bought her the ENTIRE collection; 14 DVD'S!!! and bought her one more for Christmas!) :shock: :x My ped. though did say that a lot of the studies on tv related to ADD are not 100% proven and that most ADD is inherited. who really knows right?
good night girls!
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 29, 2005, 04:15:35 am
Post by: becca24 on December 29, 2005, 04:31:41 am
Post by: kq on December 29, 2005, 04:55:18 am
Andrea, I know who you mean but don't see the similarity, sorry! :oops:
Cathy, I am huge acupuncture fan!!! Dh is an acupuncturist and I had all through my pregnancy with Sam. Works great for joints and musculoskeletal stuff. Oh got your card today and did not recognise Carter without his lovely knitted outfit! :D :wink:
Bec, will PM you the rice recipe. Oh found the website from the book. Sam was not napping and I was pram slave ie rocking in pram to sleep-read everything I could get my hands on..and BW suited the way I wanted to parent.
Have a good one girls, Sam trying to turn off computer so must go entertain him
Nikki, for fish, I use terakihi then some water, ginger and a drop of kikkoman (salt reduced).
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 29, 2005, 05:14:11 am
Cathy, I've also had accupuncture many years ago for a back/shoulder injury that just wasn't budging, it took a few sessions since it was an injury I'd lived with for years - no problems since!
Andrea, that is so cool that Taylor was standing! We have the BE set of 10 DVD's, they've all had good viewing.
Bec, just had to check which one Neptune was - Turtle right? HEY little fishes, why don't cha come a swimmin with me....LOL. That is so funny that your dh thought your horse was going to buck him - I've never ridden a horse.
Welcome back Roz.
Traci, I want to go see Narnia too, will need to get my mum to come over and look after the kids I think. Sending you one night of full sleep before TTC - I just hope you don't get stuck with pregnancy insomnia! Not only did Nathan turn into a crappy sleeper but I was averaging about 3hrs sleep a night. :roll: :evil: At least I'm now getting maybe 5-6hrs interrupted sleep and 7hrs on a good night.
I can FINALLY see a bottom tooth trying to break through, just the little spots and her gum is a bit purple. Oops, D just fell over backwards, she's getting very enthusiastic with trying to turn around and grab toys far away while sitting and has been toppling over onto her head - DH comes into the room and manages to get her all soothed when my attempts failed. :? Mind you the mention of bathtime seemed to have distracted her.
Post by: albertasweetpea on December 29, 2005, 05:18:56 am
Hannah - Mason is actually 9 - turned 9 in September :cry: He is one of the littlest in his class though weighing in at just over 50 lbs!
Yes, him and Molly have different Dads. Mason's Dad and I were married for just over a year when he was born and we split up shortly after Mason turned 1. We have had joint custody ever since and things are pretty good between us. He is a great Dad to Mason and that's all I can ask for! We both live in Spruce Grove, about a 5 minute drive apart from each other. We planned that ever since Mason was about 4 years old and we had to start thinking about schools. I moved back to Spruce Grove from Edmonton, bought myself a house here and put Mason in a school we both agreed on. Mason has been going either 1 or 2 weeks with his Dad, then 1 or 2 weeks with us. Kevin (ex hubby) respects my parenting style and we agree on most things. Mason and DH (Aaron) get along great, are best buds.
If I remember correctly, Brendan is your DH's son from a previous relationship/marriage? How often do you get to see him? How has he taken to Sophie?
As far as the TV thing goes, I am not too selective about when I have it on or what I have on when Molly is downstairs with us. Sometimes it is Mason watching TV, sometimes it is CMT and sometimes it's Dr. Phil and Oprah!! LOL We have always had it on and she doesn't seem too interested. She will look at it when she hears clapping (Dr. Phil) and then will clap along, but other than that, couldn't be bothered with it. We even tried a Baby Einstein DVD a month or so ago but she wasn't even too interested in that...her blocks were much more interesting!!
I will admit that I have used the TV as a babysitter when Mason was little because I was on my own and needed to get things done (shower, cook dinner etc.) and he is certainly not ADHD or ADD so am doubting that study as well. Mason does very well in school (all A's) and is active in football 3 nights a week and kung fu the other 2 nights so I don't think his extra TV watching has caused him any problems whatsoever. JMHO of course! :roll:
Karen - gorgeous family picture!! You are so very energetic and creative when it comes to making food for Sam. I wish I was!!
Judy and Becca - was thinking of you guys and your girls' pooping problem when I was having my Bran Buds this morning (you know you're addicted to BW when...). Do you have Bran Buds where you are? They are not the Bran stick things...they are more like little "buds". They are very tiny so was wondering if you could give your girls a few and see if that helps things along?? Just a thought anyways.
Bec - funny pic of Halle with Santa, the poor dear!
By the way, anyone else's LO's here NOT have ANY teeth yet??
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 29, 2005, 05:27:00 am
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By the way, anyone else's LO's here NOT have ANY teeth yet??
Yep, puts hand up! The one breaking through just today will be her first.
That's fab to hear that you and ex-dh still have a relationship that works great with your ds.
Post by: Taylor's Mommy on December 29, 2005, 06:24:30 am
BTW, Laura had mentioned/encouraged us to start a new thread and since we are already at pg. 112, shall I go ahead? Any objections???
Post by: Nikki~Nathan&Danielle on December 29, 2005, 06:29:38 am
Post by: Little Bear's Mum on December 29, 2005, 08:14:08 am
Great photo of Helle/Halle ( I'm sure she didn't feel that great at the time though)
Richelle, you were so funny.... I hope you managed to get thru the next day okay.
Karen, nice photo. and yes DH is quite a looker. I'll post our Christmas photo soon (once downloaded from camera) we did a couple of fun ones with us all lying on the floor (me DH and DS) if they look ok I'll post that one, if not it will be a normal one. Could you PM me your porridge and added extra recipes too please?
TV?? Yes, it's on sometimes here while Daniel is up, but not alot. We do play BE most days once though, in the afternoon when he's grizzly. It calms him down immediately even when our cuddles won't. :roll:
Christmas went really well for us. At home first thing with my parents opening presents, then to my brothers and his family (3 kids) for brunch, then off to Wellington for DH family late lunch and the night. So a busy busy day. Daniel was a dream, no problems at all, slept fine, loved his presents (more than the paper I think). Got lots of cool stuff so I can now give my friend's toys back. Only one very loud obnoxious toy helicopter from MIL. The chopper is good, just the noise/music it plays is terrible. Really loud - even MIL admitted how annoying it was. LOL.
Daniel now has 3 teeth and nearly a 4th. His 2nd came thru Christmas eve morning and then his 3rd on Christmas day! Yay! He looks so different with his teeth.
Sleeping is going well, we both slept thru last night (Daniel and I) until 7.30am!!!! Most nights he now sleeps 7pm - 6.30am with hardly a stiring. Strange thing did happen, we took some of the height away from the angle of Daniel's cot (we had raised one end due to his reflux). He's been fine for months now so didn't think it would matter. Anyway, he started waking more frequently at night sometimes 5-6 times, and it seemed to coincide with the cot angle changing. So we put it back up and he's been fine again. Phew!
Enough from me. Good to be back, I'll try to stay in touch now. But as someone mentioned above with DH around it's soooo much harder. Either he's on the computer or he sees me and teases me!!!!
Post by: becca24 on December 29, 2005, 10:29:17 am
I was chatting with Katet on the aus/nz chat tonight. She got a book for chrissy called - Children are people too. Sounds interesting and along the lines of UP. I found this and wondering what you think of it. It's pretty long so only read it if you have time :wink:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/lm/stories/s441942.htm
Here is the book
http://www.earlychildhoodaustralia.org.au/shop/Details.cfm?ProdID=407&category=6
Post by: Richelle on December 29, 2005, 13:04:00 pm
Nikki - I just wanted to say I don't have the TV on this morning and SOphie IS playing more actively and scooting all over the place. I thought she was on hiatus from learning to crawl but she keeps getting stuck under the couch (still only goes backwards :wink: ). I guess she was watching the TV more than I thought!! Sophie also got the BE DVD collection for xmas from my mom.
Michelle - I was never allowed to watch TV as a kid and I went through a case of telly addiction when I got older. My mom said it just bothered her to have us watching TV when there were so many other interesting things to do. Since then I HAVE read non stop though, hmmmmmm. I am not too paranoid about TV effecting Sophie though and think I will just chill and play it by ear. Oh and Sophie has 8 teeth :shock: and she does look sooooo different with her top 4 in!
Bec - I LOVE horses and used to ride as a kid. It was VERY expensive though, leasing a horse/stable ect... I did one equestrian show and then had to pack it in. :cry: What I want most one day is a horse! Great pic of Halle/Helle with Santa, classic really! We also have 2 daughters, sweet lovely Sophie and when she goes to the dark side Darth Sopher :wink:.
Judy - Water and oatmeal helped Sophie with her bunged problems and I know you are not a fan of sugar but 1/2 a tsp. of brown sugar in an ounce of warm water got Sophie moving as well. Poor little lamb, it can't be pleasant.
Roz - Welcome back!! great to see you and glad your holidays went well! I have good friends, that we met when we lived in Tortola, that now live in Barbados - I would love to go - she has a ds 4 months older than Sophie!
Cathy - Glad to here Carter did so good with all that moving around, what a little champ. Oh and keep forgetting to say that I got your Xmas card on Christmas Eve - Carter is such a cutie!!
Karen - Ditto on the hot DH and that he does look like Ken Wantanbe (sp?) I thouhgt the exact samde thing!! Gorgeous pic!
Hannah - Good to see you back as well. We also have SOphie's crib on an angle and I don't want to change anything in fear of disrupting her sleep!
Oh and I had read the book and looked online when I was unclear on some of the techniques in the 1st book about sleep, of course! I didn't get either of my 2 posts answered on the nap forum, so I left it and didn;t come back until july or august when I found you ladies and haven;t looked back since!!
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