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Title: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: Sarah˛ on April 07, 2006, 12:49:50 pm
Henry was sleeping 11-12 hours at night and napping 1.5-2.5 hours during the day until the time change - so a total of over 13 hrs of sleep a day, which means he was a happy, well rested little boy.

He's still napping really well (knock on wood) but has decided that 7pm is really too early for bedtime. Wednesday night he was up until 8:45pm and last night it was 9pm. I could hear him in his crib playing with his loveys, singing and talking. Sounded like he was having great fun but he wasn't sleeping!! AND add to that he's waking at 6:30am.

So his night sleep has gone from 11-12 hours to under 10! He was so tired yesterday and crabby.

I know there's nothing I can do to make him sleep. I just need to be consistent and keep doing what I'm doing. Eventually he'll get back on track.

I just wanted to vent. I know you all will understand. It is frustrating!!
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: imsmum on April 07, 2006, 14:19:22 pm
Our time change was only last week so can't comment on a pattern but Margot seems to be having difficulty getting down at night too!  Same as Henry some nights have been 8:45 to 6:30 with a 2 hour nap 1-3.  I noticed that she goes down earlir on days that are cloudy--around 8 (but then she wakes at 6!)  I think it has a lot to do with the increased light--Margot really takes her cues from the darkness--she used to say "uh-oh--dark--nigh-nigh"  in the evenings and then would start heading up stairs.  We've also had difficulty with our 5 year old champ sleeper who has really been bucking to stay up 'til 9!   So hopefully once they get used to the longer days they adjust back to going down earlier.
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: Mariek on April 07, 2006, 14:27:43 pm
Hi Sarah

We got to that stage a few months ago. The only thing that worked for us was dropping the nap. I was reluctant to do it (because, lets face it, who doesn't like that 1.5 hour break in the day when you can get stuff done!) but it solved the late bedtime issue for us. It works out better for us as a family for Grace to have no daytime nap but to have a 7pm bedtime (she gets up at about 8am).

I don't know if that would work for you - I guess it depends how much you want to keep the nap and whether you think he can manage without it. We had a week or two of Grace being really narking in the afternoons until she got used to it.

HTH

love
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: Florencia on April 07, 2006, 16:09:57 pm
OMG Sarah! our boys must've been talking on the phone or something ::) Manolo is doing the exact same thing and i remember that our sleep turmoil began exactly with the time change back in november and lasted for almost 2 months!!! so this time, just the day after the time change, he had a crappy nap and i thought: that's it im up for a rollercoaster again. He slept 11 hours that night but i wasn't too happy cause he'd slept only 1 hour 25 min nap (he was doing the 13-13.5 hour thing a day also)... so since tuesday i've been putting him down at the same time for nap and nightime no matter how much he sleeps... and it seems to be working (knock on wood) for yesterday nap and today's mornign he's done his usual stretchs... yesterday for example he only had 9:40 hours of nightime sleep but i still put him down at the same nap hour, poor bugger had to do a 6:40 hrs awake stretch and was miserable as one can get but i beleive he's slowly remembering his timings with this...

crossing fingers for the weekends... the experts say that a regular person takes up to 72 hours to get used to the new timing... obiously they didn't research on toddlers! LOL ;D
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: elfin on April 07, 2006, 18:04:56 pm
Hey Sarah,

It just sucks when they change all of a sudden!  This is the second week that Myles has flat out refused to nap ::)!  The first couple of days were really rough in the late afternoon.  I got tired of battling him so introduced a quiet time instead, where he watches a video in my bed.  I tell him it is quiet time and that I will be downstairs and will come and get him when it is over.  Knock on wood it is working so far and he stays in there and doesn't make a peep, so I am still able to get some me time.  So his bedtime has also changed from 7-7:30pm to 6-6:30pm, and he is actually sleeping until 7-7:30am!!!!  So the way I see it I can't force him to nap and he is still getting 13 hours.

Carrie
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: kim&savannah on April 07, 2006, 22:39:11 pm
Sarah~

We've had some of that the last couple weeks (actually started before the time change).  Luckily it seems to be fading now--we did move her bedtime back a little--last night I put her down around 7:45 and she must have gone right to sleep because I didn't hear anything out of her.

It seems like every couple months, she will totally fight naps and talk and sing for an hour or more at naps and night.  And then it fixes itself.  I have stopped worrying too much, although when she's only getting 9 hours at night, I get annoyed because that is how much sleep I need and I like a little time at night without her awake before I have to go to bed. 

Hopefully Henry will sort himself out soon.

~Kim
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: sacmommy on April 08, 2006, 05:04:53 am
I'm in the exact same place. Karina was taking longer and longer to go to sleep at night prior to the time change, but ever since it's been much much worse!! The last 2 night it was after 9 p.m. which is crazy late for her. Today she didn't nap so she went down at 6:30 ~ I'm really hoping this resets her clock! It's one thing to go to sleep a bit later and sleep later, but after 9 is just too late for me. I need my time, plus I know she's not getting enough sleep. I don't have any advice at this point but let's keep in touch on how it goes.
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: Sarah˛ on April 08, 2006, 13:19:24 pm
He needs to nap. I NEED him to nap. I'm in my last semester of law school and am taking the bar in July. He WILL nap - or have quiet time - until after that. After I'm finished, we'll see how we handle naps/quiet time. Until then, he's napping, gosh darn it!

Yesterday his nap was only 2 hours - as opposed to 2.5 the previous two days - and he was up by 2pm - as opposed to 2:45pm the previous two days. I put him in his crib last night at 7pm and did not hear anything from him until this am. I think he went to sleep right away.

He woke early this am - 5:50am - but was sneezing like the ens and went right back to sleep until he woke sneezing again a little later. His nose is running like a faucet and he's sneezing every 15 minutes or so - obviously we're on our way to a cold. That may have had something to do with his late bedtime, too, on top of the time change.

We'll see how today goes but yesterday was better.
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: zelkad on April 09, 2006, 02:40:06 am
Sarah,

My theory was that I would change all of Nikolas' routines by one hour not just his bedtime.  ex. breakfast an hour later, lunch an hour later, dinner et.c  I figured this would work because nothiing would be really different.  After all, he was eating supper at 5 pm before the time change and now it's at 6 pm (which is still really five.....does that make sense?  Well, it did in my head and it did for him for two days only.  For us I think it's the light in the bedroom.  We do cover up the blinds as much as possible but....Anyway, it's so frustrating!  I think that their little internal clocks tell them that it's daylight savings so we can't fool them! I'm like you though, I would go bananas without a daytime nap!  Sorry for no advice just thought to tell you we're in the same boat....sounds like a bunch of us are!

Good luck with the bar!

By the way, Nikolas is absolutely loving his Vanilla soy....so grateful you had recommended it!
Title: Re: Henry's new bedtime
Post by: imsmum on April 10, 2006, 16:32:28 pm
Sarah--first of all congrats on getting through law school especially with a lo! I've been practising for 12 years now, so that period is a bit fuzzy for me, but hopefully you've been able to have some flexibility in your schedule so that you've been able to enjoy your time with Henry.  It's tough when you practise and your time literally belongs to everyone else!

Margot has shifted her nap and bedtimes earlier, I think it just takes them awhile to adjust to the time change.  Just stay as consistent as possible and he will hopefully go back to his old schedule or at least continuing to take a decent nap.