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Title: TV time
Post by: hawkeye1315 on December 10, 2006, 04:09:51 am
I'm not sure if I should be giving my LO of 8.5mths any TV time.  Is TV potentially to much stimulation?  If not, what would be a reasonable amount of time for my LO?  Can anyone share their experiences? 

TIA :)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Karin3 on December 10, 2006, 05:26:47 am
We watch Sesame Street in the mornings, so Mimi watches about 30min - 1hr per day in the morning.  She sits on my lap while we watch and I sing & dance with her.  I try to make her TV time kind of interactive with me so I'm not using it as a babysitter.  KWIM?  Sometimes we'll also watch Baby Einstein. 

It doesn't seem to overstimulate her.  Sometimes, if dh has football on all day... it gets to be a bit much... but I think part of that is because of his reactions more so then the TV.  ::)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: tstasko on December 10, 2006, 23:10:07 pm
My dd never got TV time at that age, unless it was to clip her nails  ::) or if she was just really really fussy.  It was only a couple times a month really.
Now that she is over a year she may get a BE video once a week.
However, I am not a SAHM, we have a nanny so it is much easier for me to say that.  If I was a SAHM I would probably do a 20 minute BE video a couple times a week.  I personally don't intend on doing ANY regular TV for a long time.  I think it's too stimulating and too addicting.  I like the BE videos because they don't flash from one picture to the next every couple of seconds.
DH will put on football every now and then when she's around - she could care less, and he always pauses (TiVo) or FF through the commercials.  If she starts to watch for more than a few seconds I have him turn it off (mean wife, I know).  ;D
We;ll see though as she gets older!  I think as long as it's balanced w/lots of outdoor and creative playing time it's ok.  It's the poor kiddos who are in front of the tube for hours on end where it becomes an issue - JMO.
hth
Tari
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: linfran on December 11, 2006, 07:41:10 am
We like watching Jakers on Sunday morning on BBC2  - there's nice stories and the pictures and sound aren't too much of a shock.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: maggieruth on December 11, 2006, 07:59:10 am
Ethan didn't watch much tv until i entered my third trimester tiredness (he was 18 months)... its kinda scary how quickly he picked up all the cbeebies stuff (within two episodes of the fimbles was waving his fingers like the "fimbling feeling"  :-[) so it does seem to be kind of addictive.
the big plus of the cbeebies channel is that there are no commercials except for their own shows.
if i had my choice, i probably would have gotten rid of the tv when we had kids, but my dh would have followed it wherever it went  ::)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: xfionax on December 11, 2006, 08:24:12 am
Lucy is 9 months and the only time I put on the TV is when she is bored in her high chair. Then I let her watch a photo CD of herself, which she loves, and it keeps her still while I shovel in a few extra mouthfuls! I started doing it last week and it doesn't seem to over-stimulate her. But I'm definitely going to hold off a lot longer on her watching any programmes.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Erin M on December 11, 2006, 20:11:56 pm
The American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't recommend TV until age 2 and then no more than 2 hours a day.  Recently, I've read that they haven't found any evidence that it causes any serious damage to LOs as young as that as long as you watch it in small amounts and that parents make it interactive (ask questions, point things out, move around, etc).  My DD is 21 months and she didn't watch much TV until she was over a year -- the rise in her TV viewing coincided with my first trimester of my next pregnancy  ::)  We try not to watch much, as I'll agree with PP, it really is addicting - she knows what she wants to watch and asks for TV when it's off.  It's also really easy to leave it on and just let one show flow into the next (and so tempting because it gives you some down time to get stuff done or relax). 
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: andibig on December 11, 2006, 20:45:10 pm
Well if it was up to my DH he'd have the damn tv on 24hrs a day ::) ::). personally when i'm looking after DD i limit TV to 30mins-1hr (lazytown and Backyardigans) and she doesn't miss it.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Karin3 on December 12, 2006, 03:41:17 am
Erin - I read that from the AAP also.  This thread got me thinking...

Sometimes dh will have the news on while Mimi is up and we just put a stop to that.  We're going to ONLY watch Sesame Street in the morning a few times a wk and then maybe an occasional UGA football game.  Every game they won this season, Mimi watched the kickoff, so dh is convinced that she gave them good luck. lol  ::) :P
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: jumblebox on December 12, 2006, 06:55:04 am
Your LO isn't really missing out, if he/she doesn't get TV time. I think it all depends on why you're considering it, and it depends a lot on the type of programming. It's really a personal decision.

A lot of people don't want their LOs to watch ANY TV, and I respect that. But I also don't think there's anything wrong with them watching something like Mr Rogers or Sesame Street. I grew up on all the PBS shows, and I still fondly remember Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Grover, the Letter People (wish that was still on!). I'm convinced those show contributed to me reading at 2.5 yrs old.

Our DS is 8.5 mos, and he watches no more than 1 hr/day, no more than 30 mins at a time, and only PBS kids programs or his sing-along videos (we have one with live preschoolers singing & dancing, and an old muppet sing-along video). I'm a SAHM, so he gets PLENTY of mom time to balance it out.

As for your question about it being too stimulating... it depends on your LO, and what programming you choose.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Erin M on December 12, 2006, 21:22:13 pm
Karin, I do believe in not allowing Katie to see things like the news, as I don't want her exposed to the (sadly) violent content usually on the news, also I find you have to watch out what sort of commercials are on during programming -- that's why stations like PBS and Noggin are at least slightly better as they don't have commercials on during their shows. 

Oh, and I forgot you were one of my fellow Georgians, living in Athens it's hard to get away from those UGA football games. :)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Marisa's Mom on December 13, 2006, 02:54:35 am
M wasn't watching much TV at 8 mos, but now she's 20 mos and ASKS for TV. Well, it's actually only The Wiggles, and an episode is really about 20 minutes long. It was ok for a while to watch one episode... but now after it's done, she wants/asks for more! And then she goes into a tantrum if she doesn't get it. What do you guys do in this kind of situation?

Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Deb_in_oz on December 13, 2006, 03:11:30 am
Alex watched BE videos from about 6-8 mo (i really can't remember) and it was always with me so i was talking to her and showing her what the things were... she said her first non mama/dada words at 10 mo and had a huge vocab by 18 mo. I think she responds really well to visual and audio learning and absorbs things from it so in her case i think it was good for her. at under a year she had 1 x BE a day max and then it grew to 2 x BE from about 12-18mo (when i was pG with dd2).  she learned her shapes in a matter of a few sessions with BE Newton and learned all about the seasons within 1-2 sessions with BE Monet.

Liv is a 2nd child so whether i planned for her to watch stuff or not, it is there. she has watched less BE and more Dora and Sesame street etc and been explosed to it everfy day and you know what - she will watch sometimes for 5 min and other times for 20 min or more, but she is not too fussed. she will play and come and go from the TV.  she will ask for BE orthe wiggles or dora but after a few min will walk away  ::)

i never have the news on or commercial TV in front of her b/c you have no control over what images appear (too many fires, tsunami / tornadoes, etc) which can scare them.

just my 2 cents but i don't think it is harmful in moderation and with parental guidance and supervision (the problems really start when they are watchign it indiscriminantly all day long or age-inappropriate stuff) IMO. it can be highly educational and work WITH books and other means of teaching your lo and lots of fun for all if you join in dancing to the wiggles etc  ;)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Erin M on December 13, 2006, 03:44:38 am
Marie - I generally give warnings -- "After Sesame Street (or Wiggles) are over, then TV is all done" - and then when it's over, turn it off and don't turn it back on.  Sometimes we'll ask her if she can turn the TV off for us which she'll often do.  Then once we turn the TV off, we give her something else to do, often going outside which is one of her favorites, or I'll play with a certain toy with her, go to a different room, really anything to distract.  If it's that big of a problem, perhaps avoid TV all together for a week or so until she becomes less focused on it.  TBH, we're going to probably do that after Christmas, since we've been watching WAY too much lately with the new baby and all the Christmas craziness.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 13, 2006, 05:24:45 am
I was ANTI - TV until I realized that at times it is a safe place for your child to be when you can't supervise them...IE: while I'm in the shower, it's TV TIME.

I have read articles that 90% of parents either are unaware of, lie about, or feel too guilty to admit the amount of tv their children watch.

I will admit honestly I am a reformed TV hater. There are days when my son watches way more Barney, Jakers, Rolie Polie Olie then I'd like to admit, but I try to offset those days with what I call "park hopping" days. For example: recently DH & I were having to move a ton of furniture into our newly remodeled end of the house...this is not a safe place for Weston to be underfoot. So I "Plugged him in" and then the next day we went park hopping...visited 3 different parks and basically wore him out until he started to say "Home" LOL

I don't do this often, but when it does happen this is how I deal with it.

Basically Weston will get a program (babyfirst channel, sprout channel, or a DVD) (prefer no commercials) while I shower...because I know he'll sit there still plugged in for the time I'm away...otherwise I might come back to a disaster...he has been known to lift and FLIP our heavy wooden coffee table over! Climb up and dance on the table, etc...when no one is looking. He's very busy and can't really be left totally alone for 30 minutes, unless BARNEY is babysitting. :)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 13, 2006, 05:27:10 am
Oh and we always say "bye bye tv" when it's time to turn it off...95% of the time he's AOK with it...Barney seems to be the only program that might get tears on that remaining 5%. ;) But most of the time he can say "bye bye Barney...see ya later" and be AOK :)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Marisa's Mom on December 14, 2006, 05:00:12 am
I generally give warnings -- "After Sesame Street (or Wiggles) are over, then TV is all done" - and then when it's over, turn it off and don't turn it back on.

Ah... I haven't tried setting that expectation. Will have to try it. What I have been doing is when the show is over, I tell her "all done" and turn off the TV. Then she whines for more. I wonder if she would understand me if I tell her that TV is all done after the show is over. Probably, I guess. At 20 months, I have noticed that she understands a lot of what we're saying ... maybe not exactly what we're saying, but the gist of it. Whenever my mom announces that she's leaving, she seems to pick up on the phrase, and says, "mama?" (her word for pick me up), in an effort to keep her grandma there.

Omigosh, she actually turns off the TV when you ask her to??? Wow.

Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Marisa's Mom on December 14, 2006, 05:01:29 am
Oh and we always say "bye bye tv" when it's time to turn it off

Now that's a nifty trick. Hadn't thought of that one. I usually tell her "all done", like I do when mealtime is finished. I'll have to try "Bye bye Wiggles" ...



Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 14, 2006, 05:24:16 am
Oh and we always say "bye bye tv" when it's time to turn it off

Now that's a nifty trick. Hadn't thought of that one. I usually tell her "all done", like I do when mealtime is finished. I'll have to try "Bye bye Wiggles" ...





Yeah they know & understand 90% of what we are saying now...so I feel they understand when a show is over...well I know they do...Weston is 18 months and when the I LOVE YOU song comes on Barney or the words start to come up on a program he starts to say "over""over""over""over""over""over" (until I come and say I'll start it again or it's time to say "bye bye") 
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: jumblebox on December 14, 2006, 19:38:40 pm
When I turn off the TV, I usually tell him the TV's going to take a nap. I figure, at almost 9 mos old, he understands that you do stuff for a while (play, eat, etc), then you get tired and take a nap.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Marisa's Mom on December 15, 2006, 05:56:30 am
When I turn off the TV, I usually tell him the TV's going to take a nap. I figure, at almost 9 mos old, he understands that you do stuff for a while (play, eat, etc), then you get tired and take a nap.

LOL... but what about my LO who is still resistant to naps?  I only got a 20 minute nap out of her today, sigh....

Title: Re: TV time
Post by: hawkeye1315 on December 15, 2006, 13:20:37 pm
Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!  I think I will be starting 20 min of TV in the new year.  Any suggestions on some good DVDs?  My DS loves songs and dancing. 

Happy Holidays Everyone!  ::)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Erin M on December 15, 2006, 18:45:26 pm
Katie loves Baby Einstein though it's not much on the singing and dancing.  I know there's a ton of Sesame Street videos out there and my nephews love the Wiggles, lots of singing and dancing there.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Marisa's Mom on December 15, 2006, 19:23:52 pm
We started out with some of the Baby Einstein DVDs, some she liked, some she didn't seem as interested in. It also depends on what age you show them. Something she didn't like at first, she ended up liking a couple months later. Now at 20 mos, she really doesn't like Baby Einstein as much ... a bit too mellow for her I guess, after getting addicted to The Wiggles. She loves to play with the DVDs, opening the cover, pulling the DVD out, pushing it back in. I just hope she never scratches The Wiggles DVD, she will be one upset baby when she can't watch that one if it gets damaged...

Title: Re: TV time
Post by: tstasko on December 15, 2006, 20:42:12 pm
I've heard of the Wiggles - my friend's 2 year old LOVES them!

I too give a thumbs up to the Baby Einstein DVDs.  That's the only thing we allow right now, and still only every once in a while.  I don't know if it's coincendence or because she is a total Water-baby (loves the ocean, swimming pool, has been jumping in the pool right under water (with mommy or daddy there to help her up of course!) for about 2 months in her swim class!  :o) but the Baby Neptune one she goes crazy with.  Giggles, wide eyed, coos.  It's the only trick I can use to clip her nails - I do all her fingers and toes, I can sometimes check her teeth - especially the molars to see how they are coming..lol... and she is pretty oblivious.  I also steal major hugs and cuddles when it's on.   ;D 

I like that it's not constantly flashing, and they move slowly in and out of the screen, and of course no commercials. 

HTH
ts

Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 16, 2006, 21:44:46 pm
Sesame Street has been proven in various independent studies that it does in fact actually help teach letters, numbers, etc...so if you're child's into Sesame Street that would be an excellent choice...as for us, Weston isn't really into sitting still for Sesame Street :( but Watch out if the big purple dino comes out...Barney will put him into the "TV Trans!" LOL

He will tolerate Wiggles for a short while...but I wouldn't buy any for him just yet, because they aren't something he loves.

Weston will sit for Barney (a for sure thing for him) Rolie Polie Olie and Teletubbies but mostly just Barney...RPO is  close second...Teletubbies were a 'before thing' but I think he's outgrowing them now???
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Gigismom on December 26, 2006, 04:36:40 am
i just saw this thread.  my dd didn't watch any tv really until after 1 year.  then she kinda liked the wiggles for a while, so i'd let her watch maybe 1/2 a video per day.

the tv viewing has increased, which i don't really like, but honestly it is the ONLY way i have found to keep her content and safe while i do something i need to do...(like shower or make dinner).  she probly watches 1.5 hours a day, broken up throughout the day.  usually it's one 30 min show in the morning while i get dressed and have coffee, one 30 min show right before or after lunch while i do some chores/clean up and one 30 min show right when she wakes from her nap and is SUPER cranky.  (tv is the only cure  ::) )  so when i write it all out, i guess it sounds like a lot.  the only channel we let her watch is PBS (no commercials) and then videos/dvds that i buy for her.

for video/dvd recommendations, my dd LOVES kidsongs.  it is real live kids (not cartoons) usually with animals, singing and dancing the whole time...very little talking.  in fact she loved them so much that i bought nearly the entire collection of tapes on ebay.  if you're interested, the website is www.kidsongs.com
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: EmMUK74 on December 26, 2006, 21:57:08 pm
we never did TV time until this last month when we have started to introduce two programmes for alternate days.  one is an interactive baby sign language programme and the other is music and dancing.  I think it's a personal choice and it doesn't seem to be something we choose to do, mainly we are too busy.  :o
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 27, 2006, 00:53:31 am
we never did TV time until this last month when we have started to introduce two programmes for alternate days.  one is an interactive baby sign language programme and the other is music and dancing.  I think it's a personal choice and it doesn't seem to be something we choose to do, mainly we are too busy.  :o

Weston did love the sign video and it seemed to help enforce the signing we were doing, he was a good signer for a long while and still uses the signs for the words he can't yet say. I love signing...very good added way to commnuicate ;)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Mum to cool dude on December 27, 2006, 07:39:37 am
We've started PT'ing and whenever a little voice pipes in "need a wee-wee" the potty comes up and Balamory comes on  :D
Also, yesterday, DS had woken up from his nap and needed quite time so we watched the second act of Gisele on TV which he seemed to find soothing
I'm not against TV but I am however wary of images that he might find disturbing at his age - Harry Potter on Xmas day apparently had a couple of "scary monsters" in it so off went the TV
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: *Mona* on December 27, 2006, 08:05:25 am
Maja gets some 20 min a day of TV- she loves Rolly Mo from The Fimbles on BBC Prime and just smiles so happily whenever she sees him :)  ::)
and if I have the time in the evening, maybe 10 to 15 minutes of Sesamee street. which she loves as well.

even if tv is on when she's in the room and it's not fimbles or sesamee she just doesn't pay any attention to it. but i try to have tv off when she's with us. she still has plenty of time to watch tv IYKWIM...
:)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 27, 2006, 19:33:15 pm
Yes I'm definitly picky on what shows Weston can see...I'm not as picky of the time frame anymore, because I find it helpful when I'm trying to cook dinner, take a shower or do something that needs my full attention...so in those situations I'll have tv on for him...but baby channel (which has no commercials and only short clips of various "educational" programs...or I'll put in a video of a program that I feel is safe for his eyes. Some cartoons (like sponge bob) I'm not fond of for his age...yes it's a cartoon, but the scarastic phrases being used are too advanced for him IMHO. Some mickey mouse shows don't pass my standards either...Harry Potter for sure wouldn't cut it...yet we have friends who allow their child to be in the room playing (she's not interested in TV) while they are watching Sapranos...and that to me is way too violent for their little 1 & 2 year old ears. ;)
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Erin M on December 28, 2006, 00:39:22 am
yet we have friends who allow their child to be in the room playing (she's not interested in TV) while they are watching Sapranos...and that to me is way too violent for their little 1 & 2 year old ears. ;)

Yikes!  I agree with you there.
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: Gigismom on December 28, 2006, 02:11:19 am
yet we have friends who allow their child to be in the room playing (she's not interested in TV) while they are watching Sapranos...and that to me is way too violent for their little 1 & 2 year old ears. ;)



Yikes!  I agree with you there.


 :o  me too!!
Title: Re: TV time
Post by: M2W on December 28, 2006, 02:56:58 am
yet we have friends who allow their child to be in the room playing (she's not interested in TV) while they are watching Sapranos...and that to me is way too violent for their little 1 & 2 year old ears. ;)



Yikes!  I agree with you there.


 :o  me too!!


Makes our concerns if Sesame Street is too much seem silly huh? LOL ;)