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EAT => Bottle Feeding => Topic started by: * Paula * on July 24, 2007, 19:29:38 pm
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Hello ladies,
We usually have a lot of members that pop over to the bottle feeding forum to ask advice on bottles. It could be either that they are wanting to wean from breast feeding or that they want to purely bottle feed their lo, and want a bit of advice on what type of bottles to use.
I was hoping we could provide a thread with the following information on it:-
Country, Type of Bottles Used, Pro's, Cons
and any other info that they think could be useful.
Thanks for your input :-*
Paula
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I am from the UK.
We originally used Avent bottles for our DS, but found that he was extremely gassy and had excess wind, and was unable to get it out of his system.
We then switched to NUK teats and found that this helped our DS immensely. He did not take in as much air when drinking and was able to bring his wind up without any problems. Pros for the NUK, orthodontic teat, helped our lo take in a lot less air when drinking.
As he got older, at around 4-5 months we went back to the Avent bottles and did not seem to have any problems with them at all. Pro's for the Avent, various teat sizes, able to buy a variflow teat to adjust the flow to suit your lo, and available in a 9oz bottle.
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Good idea Paula!!
US - we tried Avent, soon to find they would not work for our preemie. It was too hard for her to use. Hubby brought home 4 ounce Gerber bottles and a selection of nipples. What worked best was the plain ole' nipple that came with the bottles. When we started thickening the formula to help her reflux, we used medium flow silicone nipples.
That's what worked for us, no ideas what the outcome would have without the preemie and reflux factors.
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If anyone's thinking about the haberman feeder:
Tracy advocated the use of the haberman feeder for breastfed babies who are going to be mixed feeding. Although many babies have no problems at all switching between breast and bottle - Tracy did feel that something she termed 'flow confusion' could be a problem. This is when the baby gets accustomed with the faster flow of the bottle and then becomes frustrated when they return to the breast.
The benefit of the haberman feeder (sometimes called a special needs feeder as it was originally developed for special needs babies) is that the baby is required to regulate the flow as they do at the breast and the milk doesn't just pour out.
Breastfeeding mothers who want to use ordinary bottles should at least remain on the slower teats as long as possible. Some women with have faster letdowns but in many cases a newborn teat is more appropriate well after 5-6 months.
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After struggling with Avent I went on to use Dr Browns aka B-free or now called Born-free in the UK.
The bottles are made of several parts which can be fiddly to wash.. but the washing time was well worth the improvement in William's colic. The bottle has a special vent system that takes air to replace the milk that the baby is drinking.. up through a tube to the bottom of the bottle.. so that it doesn't have to travel through the milk as it does in conventional bottles. That way the baby does not swallow as much air whilst feeding.
Also they have lovely soft silicone teats which William found much easier to latch properly to so he didn't gulp any air down from having a poor latch either.
As a bonus the bottles are free of a chemical called Bisphenol A - which is present in some bottles and studies have shown that it may be harmful if ingested.
Have a look at this site for more info on the newest version out in the UK..
http://www.babybfree.com/Default.aspx?pid=254
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We used Avent bottles from 9 days old and have been very happy with them. They start in 5oz size for little babies, and do a 9oz size for older lo's.
Teat sizes come in 1 for newborn, up to 4 for fast flow. The makers do give approximate age guidelines for when to change to the next teat size, but your lo may vary hugely from these guidelines, depending on his/ her needs. For example, fast flow is recommended for 6mo+ but dd was on them by 4mo as she was a big girl and very greedy!
They also do a variflow teat where you can change the flow to suit your lo while he/ she is feeding.
DD never had a problem with gassiness and the makers do say their "valve" system prevents gas getting into baby's tummy.
The bottle and teats are easy to clean and we never had any problems with leaking. They lasted until dd was about 13mo and then I had to replace a couple as they cracked just due to wear and tear.
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Hello to everybody
I'm from Italy and I'm telling my experience with Haberman feeder.
In my opinion it's perfect: no colic, no reflux .
The only problem was the kind of bottle. 5 oz was small for my baby after first months and I didn't want to change it.So I've found the solution (thanks Paula). The Dr Brown' s original bottles 8 oz are the same that Haberman feeder !!! My baby has found his original way .
I hope that this information will help some women and their babies.
Bye Bye
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I used tommie tippee ones but they didnt suit Aimee so I used Advent with newborn teats until she was on gaviscon then went onto variflow teats which worked well.
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Hi, I'm from Montreal, Canada
When my daughter stopped bf, I tried numerous bottles and many different nipples. The ones she likes, and I like as well is the Platex Nurser with the drop in liners, with the old fashion latex nipple(teat) Prevents her from sucking alot of air, and she doesn't seem to get too much gas.
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Hi,
I live in England, UK.
Started using Tommee Tippee Closer to nature, because I was intending to breast feed and my husband do one feed with the bottle. However, that didn't work out and I used bottles from about day 3 onwards. They were OK until she was about 15 weeks old and decided she didn't want to feed and screamed every time the bottle came anywhere near her. This was for about 3 weeks (have posted elsewhere about this). Then I asked a friend about the bottles she's used and borrowed hers. So now we use the Playtex bottles. The person before me talks about them too.
Pros: The bottles are hollow and you put a pre-sterilised plastic liner inside them, which contract as the milk is sucked out of them. This is supposed to mean less air all round. We have certainly found that and as soon as we switched her feeding was fine again. She is much less windy now and isn't as sick as she used to be either. Wouldn't recommend the TT closer to nature, but will definitely be recommending the Playtex bottles to all who want to bottle feed. You don't need to sterilise the bottles themselves, but just the teats and teat covers and ring the teat goes into.
Cons: Unfortunately we can only buy them online in the UK. Which is a pain with the liners, but now that we've decided to stick with them, we ordered about 5 months worth. The bottles only go up to 8ozs. The TT closer to nature ones go up to 9ozs. However, Alice isn't a big feeder anyway, so this isn't a problem for us, but could be for someone who is a big eater.
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We're in the US.
I also like the Playtex nurser - very simple to use and I feel like the size of the nipple is more familiar to her (we bf with the occasional supplement). They were recommended by my lactation consultant. We occasionally use a Dr. Brown's when the Playtex are all in the wash, and while there are no specific problems, the feeds just don't seem to go as smoothly. I also hate having to deal with all the fiddly inner bits of the Dr. Brown's that are supposed to keep the air out (we see no difference in her gassiness between the 2). Also, (just occurred to me) the Dr. Browns' tend to leak when we are shaking up the formula.
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Hello everybody
I'm from Portugal, and unfortunnely here the only brand of bottles that you mentioned and exist here is Avent.
I'm using Chicco with my LO, but it causes him too much gas. Unfortunelly is the only one that he drinks of. I've already tried bebe confort, nuk, and avent, but doesn't like any of them. With Nuk he didn't adapt to the flow and often he would choke with it. With the other two brands they had silicone teats and he doesn't know how to suckle from them, and after a little bit he was too upset and crying.
Does anyone have an advice?
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With regards to the NUK - what size teat are you using? You can get the platex in NUK as well as silicone.
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Hi.
What do you mean with "With regards to the NUK - what size teat are you using?". I think it was regular size. It was the one that came with the bottle.
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Nuk teats do come in different sizes (flows)
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sorry didn't anser.
It was regular flow.
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might be worth trying a faster flow teat to see if this makes any difference.
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Hi I'm using the tommee tippee closer to nature bottles, i used them when breast feeding and exprssing milk and my lo took to them no problem. He went from breast back to bottle and back again so my dh could take him for the whole night once per week. I would def recommend these as they are wide necked too so apart from the anti colic thing they are easier to aim formula into at 3am lol!!! ;D
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Thanks for positing. This information is good to know. I have bought the Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature bottles for my #2 that is due in the next few weeks.
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HI...i use platex ventaire bottles... http://www.playtexbaby.com/Products/Bottles/VentAire.aspx ...spent a few bucks on them too because they were recommended by my sister inlaw and i have to say i hate them.With my first son (13 years ago...lol) i used platex with the replaceable liners(now drop ins) and they were much better.I should have went with my instincts and bought the drop ins because these ventaires drive me crazy.They leak from the bottom if the cover isnt just tight enough and also from the top if thats not tight enough and with all the pieces to take apart and wash it takes me forever to wash bottles.I suppose all this i could live with if my lo wasnt getting any air but he still burps many times with each bottle.Just didnt seem to do what they claim.
Just letting everyone know my experience.
Thanks
Christina
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I've been using Dr. Brown's bottles after trying so many different kinds, I've found this to work best for DD's colic and reflux. She is now 7 months and I'm thinking of changing bottles simply b/c they Dr. Brown's take longer to clean and I feel she will be fine now on another type of bottle. I tried a couple, but I keep going back to Dr. Browns! We'll see...
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Hi I'm from Italy and have a 2 and 1/2 month baby girl that has reflux. I was wondering if this Dr Brown bottle someone is talking about is the one I saw on a episode of Tracy helping a family (whose son had this problem) aired in Italy some day ago.
Can someone describe it ? Or put an image of it in the chat ? Or knows if it can be found in Italy ? Tks
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Tracy used the haberman feeder:
http://shop.babyworld.co.uk/displaydetail.aspx?prodid=531
I use it too and love it.
Alex
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Anyone know?? Im in the UK and last time we spent alot of money on the Avent bottles only to change to Dr Brown's 2 weeks later because Harvey had really nasty colic and they were mega expensive!!! Im happy to buy them but just wondered if there were anymore I could look at instead? Jake suffered with colic too but they didn't have these bottles around when he was a baby (I dont think!!)
Dr Browns seemed to do the trick but were abit of a pain to clean! But I dont mind, I just want the best! So does anyone know what the best anti colic reducing bottle is??
Ive heard Avent have a new one out??
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Platex drop ins worked wonders for my DD. You can get a set for about $15 here (not sure what it is in the UK sorry) Dr.Browns were not availible when DD was small and the drop is worked great for us.
I think its because it works kind of like the breast in that it lets no air into the bottle. They also have a natural latch which is great if you plan to continue BFing. In fact for the time I did BF it actually helped improve my DD's latch.
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I really do love dr browns, tommee tipee do one very similiar called tommee tippee health check, I think.
Also likes tommee tippee closer to nature as you can combine them with a breastpump by them if you choose to express etc...... and they have a good anti colic valve and the coolest thing is that if you have a girl they are in pink.... but think I remember you saying you are having a boy is that right?
So anyway those are my recommendations.
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I really do love dr browns, tommee tipee do one very similiar called tommee tippee health check, I think.
Also likes tommee tippee closer to nature as you can combine them with a breastpump by them if you choose to express etc...... and they have a good anti colic valve and the coolest thing is that if you have a girl they are in pink.... but think I remember you saying you are having a boy is that right?
So anyway those are my recommendations.
Thanks Emma! Yes Im having a boy!! Still getting used to saying that!! I tried the tommee tippee ones with H and didnt get on to well, Im exclusively bottle feeding so am not to worried about them being breast like!! Apart from the not letting air in bit of course!! ;D
Thank you Kimberly too!! ;D
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You are welcome, congratulations on having a little boy, you are well outnumbered ;D ;D
Good luck with your choice, I would love to know what you get, I see bottle and cup buying as an art lol, we have had many different ones! Forgot avent are good anti colic wise, but the teats do seem pretty fast flowing for the age recommendation, may be just me who found that though :-*
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Emma, avent have a new one out but cant for the life of me think what its called!!
Ah this is it... I dont really buy it though!! Looks far too simple to help colic!! ::) ::)
AVENT Airflex
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Looks the same as the one I used in march :-\ how new is it? I think it is good fornot letting air in, prob not quite as good as dr browns,but I rated them as I used thickened milk, but with un thickened milk it seemed far too fast a flow... good though I thought
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Hmmm... no idea how new it is!! When I say new I mean it wasnt around 2 years ago when I fed Harvey!! LOL
It has something special in the teat, think the small bottles are just over £4 I think so much more than the normal avent ones!! Or are they?! I have no idea of the prices of bottles and baby things 'these days'!!
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It wasnt around when I fed Jack, so must be new this year I think, so exciting choosing bottles. Yeah they are not dead cheap... maybe you could buy one of every bottle and try them all lol then buy a few of the "best" one!
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I say go with the Dr. Brown bottles. I tried Avent, Playtex Nursers, and the Vent Air bottles with both of my lo's and always ended up with Dr. Brown.
I also tried the new Avent Bag Bottles they have, I really did not like it.
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clare we tried mam,avent,tomee tipee air vent etc with dd2 and still ended up with dr.browns second time round ::).i actually got my money back from mam and tommee tippee so it cost nothing extra for those ;).
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Great!! Thank you!! I was thinking I would go with these anyway, just wanted other people to say that they are as good as I thought!! ;D ;D
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You might also find this thread useful?
www.index.php?topic=97930.0
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I primarily bf, but did EBM in a bottle. We ended up using Haberman bottles after trying Dr. Brown's and Avent. They were a bit pricey, but worked wonderfully. The Haberman was a little more work to clean, but still easier than the Dr. Brown bottles. DS gulped loades of air with the other bottles and didn't seem to have that problem once I made the final switch to Haberman. I did change over to the Avent bottles around 7 mos or so and they worked just fine after he got a bit older. I'd go w/ Avent or the Haberman. Good luck with whatever you decide.
HTH
Lena
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Clare I used the drop in bags for Avent with dd and found them fantastic. Of course once I stock piled about 10 boxes of the liners they discontinued the bottle.
I used Dr Browns with ds who had severe colic for about 10 or 11 weeks, and honestly I found it didnt make a bit of difference. I would have tried a bag with a bottle if I could have found them here.
Have now after 4 months changed back to the regular avent with a number 4 teat cos ds is on a slightly thicker formula due to reflux and although they occasionall block they block less than the dr browns.
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Before Jack was born I bought the Avent bottles, but the release was so fast and all he would do is cry during and after the feed, so I switched to Dr Browns and it worked wonders for his gas problem...2 month later I tried the Avent again...and Jack down a bottle of 5oz in 5 minutes and screamed for 1 hr...poor guy, next went back. I luv them. However, my girlfriend's baby was colic and the best bottles that worked for her we the Gerber ones, the cheepest ones of the bunch, the nipples are brown...but I think the release is slow, they are not the prettiest of the bunch but they seemed to do the trick with her baby.
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Thank you everyone! Knew Id get great info here!! ;D ;D
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clare
Only on the 2nd time to use it but I'm quite impressed by the 'First Years Breastflow bottle'. Need to get the technique to open it so i don't get too dripped on.
Available at Mothercare.
http://www.breastflow.co.uk/index.htm
Alex
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I use Born Free and they are made to help reduce colic and I see a bit of a change with my lo who is 2 month old. Something worth to try.
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Lena:
Do you really think the haberman Feeder was worth the $ for redusing gas. My lo swallows SO MUCH air when feeding. I have tried Dr, Brown, Vent Air, Avent and the bag bottles. Still same results.
I think I am going to try one of these.
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dr brown\s!
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Does anybody know where I can find ebermans or everman baby bottles? I saw them on tv, but I don't know where to buy them, it seems they're the best for colic reduction
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Are you in the US? I googled both of what you said and good not find anything about those brand bottles.
The only thing that came up was the Bisphenol-A Free bottles. Here is the US, they are called Born Free bottles. I know you can get them at Babies R Us now.
Welcome to BW by the way, I see this is your first post.
Wendy
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We tried a couple of bottles with my ds. I started off breastfeeding, but by the third night we were in the hospital and found out that he was not getting enough milk from me at the time so we were recommended the Nuk brand, but because ds had alot of gas and I ended up strictly bottle feeding we were lent a Dr browns bottle to try. Alot of his problems went away. We had also switched formula too to a Lactose free brand. We have been pleased with Dr. Browns. They are a bottle that have a tube down the middle to release the air. I am in Canada and the only place I can find them is toys R us. They can be a bit of a pain to clean, but our ds loves them. Here in Canada Dr Browns and born free are two differant types of bottles. We also last night ended up going out and buying the dr Browns glass bottles as there is a warning in Canada about BPA's in bottles and most of the stores here in Edemonton have pulled all the BPA bottles off the shelf and our ds will only drink the bottles warm.
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Hi
Am in the UK.... DD was bf but needed to introduce bottles - was fine on tommee tippee until 4 months when completely refused... the only bottle we got her to take eventually was the medela one that came with the breast pump I bought.
Pros: definitely look at the shape of your nipple if you are trying to get a bf baby to take a bottle. The medela bottle teat is quite slim and seemed easier for my LO to get into her mouth.
Cons: bottles harder to get but you can order direct from their website and Mothercare do stock them but not always in stock. Also, bottles are quite small (150ml) but they are just about to bring out a 250ml bottle!
x
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Sassy MAM Bottles are GREAT!!!! bottles. I cannot say enough about them. They make the transition from breast to bottle a breeze. Not only that, they pretty much eliminate gas. My DD uses these bottles, and she has no issues going to the breast. Not only that they come in really cute pink and blue colors.........AND they are not expensive.........AND they are BPA Free. You can get that on Amazon.com. HTH
http://www.amazon.com/Sassy-Babys-Girl-pack-Bottle/dp/B000C4W6UG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=baby-products&qid=1227465689&sr=8-4
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Hi,
My first child had (GERD) terribly. She had many symptoms of a colicky baby / child.
I found that Dr.Browns bottles worked best for us.
They might be a little more expensive, but they did seem to help with eleviating some of the air swallowed and gas.
Goodluck :)
Holly
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Hi Holly,
Thanks for posting. I know a lot of mums have had a lot of sucess with Dr Browns and swear by them.
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I use the Dr Browns and even though there is less wind than the others, he still gets alot of wind. I find he likes the really really cheap bottles the best (typical, after i spent ALL that money!) :)
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I use the Dr Browns and even though there is less wind than the others, he still gets alot of wind. I find he likes the really really cheap bottles the best (typical, after i spent ALL that money!) :)
LOL that's kids for you. Sounds like mine, when I buy them a nice new toy and they would rather play with the box ::)
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Hi,
We use Playtex Vent Air bottles since my LO is a bit of a spitter upper. ;D This helps reduce that but we still must burp several times during feedings. Also its kinda of pain to clean them and also you must not warm them in a bottle warmer you have to transfer after warming but even still I prefer the Vent Airs. Hope this helps!
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We have tried SO many different bottles (we're in Canada, and have an avid spitter-upper, gas-guzzler, and reflux baby).
So far, here's what we've found:
Dr Browns let her gulp in a lot of air ( I think this is due to the shape of the nipple - she tends to latch more loosely around the long nipples), BUT, she burps quickly afterwards. The pain is that we have the 3.5 oz size, and all my formula measurements are for 4 oz - a pain! I have also read that they tested the plastic Dr browns bottles that were supposed to be BPA free, and they found them to contain BPA!
Nuk - the flow was way too fast for her - even the slow flow - she chokes a lot every time, but is just starting to take this in the afternoons when she's hungry and alert. They compare to the Avent IMO, but don't leak as much. I take these to go.
Avent - the flow is great, but man, if you don't have it screwed on JUST right it leaks - had 4 oz of h2o leak down my back (diaper bag is backpack) and then had no sterile water for LO's bottle. I use these at home for expressed BM
Nuby silicone - love the look of this bottle - and that it does what the ventaire does without having as many parts, but the nipple is still too fast (it came with a medium flow nipple)
Playtex drop ins - found these difficult to get an accurate measure of formula in, and since we sterilize the water, fill the bottles then add formula as needed and shake, I always worried that the ratio was wrong. Also, my LO only has small amounts of formula for now, and we have the bigger drop ins, and the liner doesn't collapse - I think the size has to correspond more closely to how much you are giving.
Lastly, Playtex Ventaire - a PAIN to clean, as there are so many little parts, but this is the one that my LO latches onto the best (we use wide). The nipples are truly slow flow, so she gulps less, and if we use these at night and for dream feeds, we don't even need to burp her, so she doesn't wake up. Also, I like the 6oz size - gives us room to grow - not too small.
Hope this helps!
:)
A
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Hi I'm in Canada, Playtex Nursers with drop in liners are great.... downside......liners are disposable...expensive(6 bucks tax (here in Newfie) for 50 liners) and not so enviro friendly :(
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We are in Greece, and started our daughter on avent bottles at 5 weeks, for 1 feed a day. She took to it really well, and we never really had many major issues, although she would always need to burp halfway through the feed. Also, I found they leaked a lot!! We now use Dr Browns, and as someone else said before, the feeds just go much more smoothly, and she immediately started taking more each feed. They do leak if you shake them, but it does say clearly in the little leaflet that comes with the bottles not to shake them.
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Hi I am using tommie tippie closer to nature bottles at mo and was she was crying all eveing up until I started a routine with her..bottle, bath, bottle and bed and shes been ok..however she isn't feeding grest during the day..she is nearly 8 weeks and I was wondering should I change the teat from a slow flow to a medium one? I was thinking of maybe changing bottles to see if that changed anything or do you think I will just confuse the situation even more??xx
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I would try the faster flow teats first - it's a bit cheaper than new bottles! Changing the teat flow can make a huge difference, you could also try the TT vari-flow teats if the next size is a bit fast. They work by allowing the baby to control the flow by how hard they suck, we used them with my DD and found them to work well.
Laura
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DR BROWNS!!!!! :) Oh my goodness! They took us from an hour and a half of screaming to dowing a feed in 10/15mins overnight! I can not say how great these are. Yes AG still gets wind but infacol and diligent burping take care of that. My DH is so convinced they have started stocking them at his pharmacy. I would never use anything else! We found them especially helpful because AG was so small/prem. After breast feeding till her reflux was so severe we were hospitalised, she got a total breast aversion and I pumped for months and tried all sorts of bottles to get things right. In all my trying I never saw that perfect "Special K" latch on shape until we tried the Dr Brown's bottles (we use the standard teat as AG is so little and we weren't trying to breast feed and bottle feed by that stage, but if you were doing both then maybe the wider teat would be better). Yes there is some hassle with cleaning but seriously - get over it! The difference it has made is totally worth it and you can buy BPA free plastic bottles or glass bottles in all sizes, they have a great range of teats - including a premie teat and a Yneck teat for thickened formulas. I would never use anything else!
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Ontario Canada
Used platex nursers - they have collapsible liners that are super easy to use and low or high flow nipples (latex) or silicone ones in high flow
Personally I LOVED these - Easy to make up bottles and I never had issues with nipple confusion - I was BFing my LO and DH gave dream feed bottle starting at the 3 wk mark. There is a starter kit that has 5 nipples (all low flow) and liners and 2 4oz bottle and 3 8oz bottles.. a friend told me about it and There are 4 of us in a group form work that all use these.
Cheers
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Hi, we are in the US ...When my DGS was born I tried numerous bottles and many different nipples. As he seemed to have a problem sucking and swallowing, he would choke so often I was scared to feed him. I finally went with the Platex Nurser with the drop in liners, with a newborn latex nipple. The collapsible liners kept him from sucking air.
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HI!
I can actually give input on this. We used Nuk, Avent, Born free and Medela all in Canada. We also used Dr. Browns from Canada (with valve). But then my mum brought me Dr. Browns from the UK and Voila! Did the trick. I would see, if I were you if you can order them from Mothercare or somewhere like that???
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In my own experience as a mum of two reflux boys the bottle makes a HUGE difference as to how much air they get in their tums, for example I tried a Nuk anti colic bottle the other day and he was screaming within minutes and the burps I got out of him was ridiculous. I do not have this issue with Dr Browns.
Natalie - whatsthe difference with the UK and Canada dr browns??
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In the beginning we used Advent bottles for our little one, but realized he was really gassy and the flows (for newborn) were still too much for him. We tried other bottles such as Playtex (cause we were advised that the latex teats were slow flowing and good to use, but it didn't help much either. Finally we tried and stuck with the Medela Calma. It's expensive, but it is suppose to mimic the breast and it works well for him. The milk only comes out when he sucks, unlike the Advent and Playtex which still flowed out even when he wasn't sucking. Probably will switch back to Advent when he gets a bit older.
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Adiri all the way!!!! but not the old ones. they leak. Get the new ones by reliabrand. they have a e store opening this month. this bottle is AMAZING!!!!
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Ontario, Canada
Bottles I have used/tried: Avent, Nuk, Playtex Ventaire Advanced (wide & standard nipples), Dr.Browns.
Avent: This was the first bottle we used. A girlfriend of mine had given them to me and highly recommended them. When we had a latching issue, this was the bottle I had given my DD to supplement formula on and since giving DD the bottle she has refused my breast. I found the nipple (size 1, the slowest flow they have) to drip a lot of milk when turned upside down. DD didn't have a problem with these bottles in the beginning, and was downing 3oz in under 10mins. Eventually they became a problem, and DD started to get gas pains. That's when I decided to play with bottles to see if it'd help.
Pros: I love how these bottles look. I never had an issue with them leaking.
Cons: The nipple was too fast for DD. The bottle(with the wide nipples, too) had given Lara preference to bottle over breast.
Nuk: The next bottle I tried was Nuk. We did not get very far with this one as the orthodontic nipple did NOT go over very well with DD. I made sure to have the nipple placed correctly in her mouth, and it took her forever (I think 20mins was how long I tried) to even get 1/2oz into her and she became a cranky girl. Not sure if it was she didn't like the shape of the nipple or if the flow was too slow for her. DD however did not have her "episode" after the bottle
Pros: Not really sure on this one as I didn't give the bottle much chance. I guess the orthodontic nipple would be a pro.
Cons: Too slow of flow.
Playtex Ventaire Advanced: We tried this bottle next, and tried both standard and wide nipples to see if there was much difference. The first bottle I used was the standard nipple and I noticed a great improvement in DD's comfort level, although she still had gas pains, and was still eating way too quickly (2 1/2oz in under 10mins--no lie). I had gotten a wide nipple to see if there would be a difference in how slow it'd get her to eat, and I found that immediately she was much more uncomfortable and cranky after eating. I'm not all too sure if the standard nipple I used first had caused further laziness on DD's part or not.
Pros: There was a marginal improvement in DDs discomfort with the bottle, and even still a marginal improvement from nipple to nipple.
Cons: Still caused DD to be uncomfortable enough to make me want to try one more bottle.
Dr.Browns: The last and final bottle I will ever be using. In a desperate attempt to relieve my little girl's discomfort, we made a trip out today to get this bottle. And I have to say, wow! I'm impressed. I've given her 4 feedings from this bottle, and it's a complete 180! Yes, DD still is a little bit gassy, but I'd have to say she's honestly 95% better. There's no more scrunching of her features when presented with the bottle, and no more "mommy your poisioning me" faces as she's eating. There is no going beet-red in the face, clenching her fists, kicking her legs, drawing them up to her tummy, grunting or groaning anymore. I noticed she is not nearly half as hard to get to burp, although she is still a difficult burper. I also noticed she's passing wind easier as well, but this could be she may have finally figured it out as well.
Pros: With my DD, this bottle actually works. The bottles I picked up (the glass ones, not sure if any of the plastic ones were as well) were made in USA which is a big deal in my household as we are trying to support our own economy as best as possible. Our rule is North American made (Mexico included, Canada preferred over all else) unless we absolutely cannot find it. The glass is also a plus for me as I know for sure there is no BPA in that.
Cons: I personally do not find the extra pieces a bother but I suppose I could see how they would be. The glass bottles are bit bulky. Pricey, but still worth the extra money in our case. There is not enough variety in multi-packs (i.e no starter kit like the Playtex Ventiare Advanced).
I would highly recommend the Dr.Browns to a friend, and plan to do so as two of my friends are expecting.
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In NZ it's avent all the way, have managed to avoid colic by using the colic rings. Also popular are the tommie tippie's
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Also posting from nz. We had to move to bottle feeding (neocate) when T was 10 weeks. He also suffers from terrible reflux and wind. Avent gave him a ton of wind and he couldn't manage the teat very well but the 'closer to nature' tommee tippee bottles have been amazing in comparison! We are using the variable flow teat.
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we used dr browns with our daughter
but my son would not take them
we are using tommee tippee now but he does not seem to latch on to them right or something
the nipple keeps collasping in his mouth causing bad gass
might try the doctor browns again in a while
cause we are only on day 3 of bottle feeding
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Amanda are you using var flow? The others did the same thing for T
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So I just recently purchased an Avent bottle for my lo to try. We have the dr browns and the playtex nursers and both are great in my opinion, however I was looking for something easy to clean and not so costly. I saw where several had success with Avent and we tried one when we first started but the one we had I'm not sure if the ring was missing or the nipple was old and the flow was way too fast. So I just bought a new one to try and have some questions. With the ring does that make it var flow? It says it has a level 2 with 2 holes for 1+ month but then it also says something about flows with baby's suck so I'm confused. Also I notice while she's drinking I have to take it out often to let the air in guess as there several bubbles I see in the nipple, will this eventually cause gas? Are there differences in where you get the bottles like for exp will uk Avent be different then us. I am in us and on the bottle I have there are Ozs for uk and us as they are a little different. Do the Tommee tippee have a lot of parts to wash? I see a lot recommend them also.
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I think with avent in nz we don't have rings ??? And we have a var flow nipple. Personally I found avent terrible for Thomas. But, they were fine for Zac.
The TT closer to nature ones have been great for T. Not lots of part. Just bottle, ring and nipple.
http://m.tommeetippee.us/department/closer-to-nature/
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With the tt.there are three types correct? Which one do you use just the" feeding "bottle? I believe that's what it called.
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Oh I think they may be new or not available here. We only have the feeding bottle but boy the other ones would have been handy!
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Do you notice the bubbles while he's sucking in the tt? That's good though bc that means it doesn't have much to clean. The other two have more parts like the Dr Browns. We may have to try it.
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If you are having to take the Avent out of her mouth to let air in, you have tightened the ring a little too much ;)
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I don't know??? The ring just sits on the top of the bottle and then the nipple and that ring that hold the nipple just screws on top of it. Would screwing that nipple ring make a difference?
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We had horrendous belly ache last night, which sent me on a mercy dash to the local store. I had been using avent bottles with the ring for my DD as well as the natural avent ones. I noticed yesterday while I was feeding her that she was sucking so hard on the teat that it had collapsed. I think this is the main reason for her bad tummy last night. Anyway I went and got Dr Brown bottles last night and I changed her formula to Aptimil comfort. I have noticed a big difference in her today. She has slept a few times today and has been less gassy. I really liked the avent bottles but I am not sure if they took enough air out of the milk for her. I changed the teat as well to the next one up, my DD is six weeks old, and I still don't think that the holes were big enough. She guzzles like you wouldn't believe but also gets frustrated if the milk doesn't come quickly enough, hence sucking harder and sucking in air. Now that I have changed the formula they definately aren't big enough and I woulld have to go to the next one. Anyway, I think it is trial and error. That is what I have found. We started with the tt closer to nature ones, like the dr browns, but imo they weren't very good. The rubber diaphram at the bottom split within a week of use and i think DD got more gas using them.
If you continue using the avent ones, tighten the bottle as usual and then just move it back a notch to make sure it isn't too tight. You need to make sure that it doesn't leak either, but as I said I think it is all trial and error. I also make sure i wind her after every 20 to 30 mls. She protests like you would not believe but it does seem to help. Hope this makes sense and helps in some fashion!
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If you continue using the avent ones, tighten the bottle as usual and then just move it back a notch to make sure it isn't too tight. You need to make sure that it doesn't leak either
This. I found that you could easily overtighten them... they would leak if not tight enough but would leak if too tight (or DD would get mad because the milk/air balance wasn't right).
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Yes thanks this has seemed to help, tightening and then Posen back one. It doesnt seem to have the bubbles like before. Thanks again
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Great!
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I started breastfeeding and then went to bottles at about 1 week old. as a result the advent were way too fast and she was getting really choked as well as bad stomach acnes and gas because of the flow. We switched to Dr Browns and they work much better. I think they are similar to what she recommends in the book. They have a third part inside the bottle to slow down the flow and help reduce gas.
We live in US I found that Target has them the cheapest.
I have also heard that some moms like the Platex drop ins as well.
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I’ve used the Avent bottles since week one and have liked them - with one expectipn. The nipple flows are, in my opinion, way too fast. Baby was having terrible issues with spit up until we went down a nipple flow. He used preemie nipples (size 0) for the first month, then size 1 starting at week 6. This has helped immensely!!