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E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Multiple night wakings and EASY problems 6mo
« Last post by Elauriel on January 19, 2018, 16:26:56 pm »
Well...I'm not sure how it will work for son 2, but I don't have a choice. I have to leave at 3:20ish to get my son 1, so the baby will be woken up at 3:20 no matter what. My other options are:

up 6
S: 9-11
S: 2-3:30
6:30 bed

up 6:30
S: 9:30-11:30
S: 2:30-3:30
6:30 bed

And either scenario has me waking up at 6 (yuck after being up all night), and trying to keep 4 yo son 2 quiet after dinner. Oh, and we usually eat at 6...soo.....it looks like I'm going to either have an overtired baby, or a long day, or no dinner, or no sleep myself. Haha, none of these scenarios sounds ideal  :)
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Night Wakings / Re: 4.5 month old waking frequently in the night
« Last post by creations on January 19, 2018, 15:02:54 pm »
3:00pm: wake
3:30pm: feed
4:00pm playtime
5:30pm: cat nap
6:00pm: bath
7:00pm: bedtime routine and feed
7:30pm sleep
Hi there.  have you considered offering a longer nap instead of a CN in the evening?  Looks like she naps well after 2hrs A time but just before that CN at 5.30pm you are stretching to 2.5hrs so she will be more tired but then given a shorter nap. This could be causing OT, perhaps.
How about a longer nap say 5 - 6 (1hr) and then either a shorter A before BT with BT at 7.30pm (shorter A time after the shorter nap which is 1 hr instead of 2hr she takes the rest of the day) or if she refuses BT at 7.30 move it to 8pm until the routine changes again?
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E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Multiple night wakings and EASY problems 6mo
« Last post by creations on January 19, 2018, 14:55:52 pm »
I'd be wary of only offering two CNs in place of a long nap plus a CN which is what you are transitioning from (and with one long nap left in place) but it seems to be working for Eva so if you feel that's the routine that fits your family then go for it :)
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E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Multiple night wakings and EASY problems 6mo
« Last post by Elauriel on January 19, 2018, 14:44:36 pm »
Thank you both so much for your help! I think having the longer A time in the morning and early afternoon would be perfect! That would really fit our schedule. Having the nap at 3:30 wouldn't work because I drive 2 blocks to pick up my son and come back. It's a 15 minute ordeal where I park walk into school and come home, so the baby would never have a chance to nap. I honestly have no idea how to make that nap happen at that time. Of course when we come home son 1 wants to go on about his day and I don't want to run in the door at 3:45 and tell him to watch TV while I put the baby down for 20 minutes. I could probably do this schedule:

Wake 6:45
E
A
S: 9:45-11:45
E
A
S: 2:45-3:15
A
S: 5:15-5:45
E
A
S: 7:45

This might be the best I can do. And it kills me to not give him good naps because honestly he kinda likes to sleep and I have an Etsy shop to run while he's sleeping. Son 1 hated to sleep and I had nothing in the world to do, haha. Isn't it always that way.

And the cosleeping thing is amazing for us! Never did it with son 1, but the baby just wakes up opens his mouth, comfort nurses for a minute and then I fall asleep. It's so easy, but I fall asleep in like a minute whenever I want. It's a special ability of mine, haha.

I will work towards this if you think it's a good schedule. I don't have much free time to chat, but if things start going off I will make the time. Thanks ladies!!
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Night Wakings / Re: 4.5 month old waking frequently in the night
« Last post by HelzBelz on January 19, 2018, 14:35:17 pm »
Would really love some advice on this please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😩😩😩

Last night my DD work and midnight and then every two hours from there until il 5am where she started waking every half hour. Each time i gave her the paci and she dozed back asleep. I have a tired unsettled baby today and i am exhausted! I will try anything. 😢😢😢😢

Itís definitely not hunger because I eventually took her up at 7am and fed her and she fussed like mad on her bottle and didnt finish it.

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General Sleep Issues / 4.5 Month Bedtime and Nightwaking!
« Last post by eogan0622 on January 19, 2018, 14:28:25 pm »
Good morning everyone!

My 4.5 month old has been a pretty easy and sweet baby since birth! He's been a decent sleeper as well, and has been able to go to sleep independently for awhile- usually fusses and moves around and then falls asleep.  I'm struggling right now with figuring out his A time before bed, and how to nail the right bedtime after his last nap! 

As many 4-5 month olds are, his schedule can be somewhat unpredictable- sometimes he takes long chunky naps, and some days they are 45 mins- 1 hr.  So it's hard to write out a standard "EASY", but here's what the past couple days have looked like.
*Note: He sleeps swaddled, in his crib, he does use a paci but doesn't require it to fall asleep, and he is EBF

Thursday:
645a: WU
8-1030: S
1030: E
1215: E
12:40-4:10: S (He did wake up around 1:30, I was able to hold him and get him back to sleep)
6:00- Bathtime/bedtime routine/BF
6:30: Asleep
-->NW: 830/945/145/430

Wednesday:
7:15a: WU
8:00: E (isn't very into BF when he first wakes up for some reason)
8:45: E again because he barely ate at 8
9-1030: S
11:15: E
12-12:30: S in carseat (I have a toddler in school and have to pick her up)
1:45: E
2-3: S
3:30: E
4:30: E
4:45-5:45: S
6:00: E
7:00: Bathtime/Bedtime routine/BF
7:30: S
-->NW: 930/1/545

*Questions
1) 2 naps don't seem like enough- my daughter wasn't on 2 naps until around 9 months! But when naps are long, not sure how to fit it all in.  My biggest issue/question is that when he wakes up from a nap at or after 4pm, should I try to get him to nap again around 530/545, hoping for just a quick 30 min cat nap, and then put him to bed 2 hrs after that? Or should I just not try to get him to nap again and put him to bed around 6/630? Because I also have a toddler, that 530 nap can be hard to nail between dinner/cooking/meltdowns/etc- but I am willing to try if you think this would help.
2) Dream Feed- I've been doing a DF with him since we put him in his crib at 9 weeks.  I used to just sneak in at 10 ish and feed and put him back in.  The past couple weeks, however, as he's been going down to sleep closer to 630, he's been waking up for a feed anywhere between 9-10.  Sometimes I try to catch him before he wakes up- IE if he hasn't woken up by 930p then I do the DF then.  However he is still waking to eat somewhere between 12-2 and then again 5-6.  Do I cut the DF? adjust it somehow?
3) He's not rolling back to belly yet but seems very close- so I preemptively want to try to transition into Merlin suit- will try for naps first but wondering if this could be causing NW? He moves around (scooches) a ton while swaddled, lifts and slams his legs down, etc...

Thanks in advance for all the help!

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General Sleep Issues / Re: Hand holding and advice pls
« Last post by eva026 on January 19, 2018, 14:20:57 pm »
Ok so all experimenting done. I canít top up after solids as she bites then! We have also moved to a 3hA. Moving her back and forth to her sisters room and it doesnít really make a difference after all.
Still sucky nights mixed in with a good one from time to time. General rule is 3nf every 3h, not habitual because she doesnít have a set bed time but I adjust it depending on wake up time. She does extend her nap not in my arms from time to time but I still have to be next to her to httj and shhhhh. Would you mind taking a look at our easy, not sure how to fit it in around kindergarten pick up. Ooohhh and sheís taking the bottle woohoo (with rooibos tea not milk but itís progress) and I no longer rock.
Normal day:
WU 7.30 E
8.30 solids
E 10.20
S10.30
WU 12.00 e (when sleepy top up)
1.00 solids
E 2.50
S 3.00
WU 4.30 e (sleepy to up)
6.30 solids
E 7.20
Bed 7.30
Then Df 10.00pm, NF usually when she wakes at 1ish and 4ish Iíve tried extending with a dummy but no go.

What do I do on days I do preschool drop off in the morning so the day starts with a CN? Option 3 what do I do when I have to do preschool pick up and leave at 4-4.30? In the middle of what would be long nap number 2?
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Glitches & Forum Help / Can't register
« Last post by Tabyria on January 19, 2018, 14:15:19 pm »
Hi, I've been trying to register today but have been getting an error message:

Database Error
Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator.

So this is what I'm doing. hope I can join you soon!

Thanks,
Taby
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E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Multiple night wakings and EASY problems 6mo
« Last post by eva026 on January 19, 2018, 14:03:46 pm »
Believe me Iím the last person who expected to be cosleeping. Definitely didnít with DD1! DD2 is just a totally different baby and has been on my and clingy since day 1. With all the nw and still 3 NF cosleeping is the only way I can get any sleep at all. If I had to resettle her back in her cot every time Iíd be a zombie. At least Iím only half of one now.
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General Sleep Issues / Re: 8 month sleep regression! Need help!
« Last post by jessmum46 on January 19, 2018, 13:02:11 pm »
Routine looks pretty good - i can't see an obvious problem there :)  8 months is quite a common time for separation anxiety to kick in - it sounds like that may well be part of it if she's very clingy?  Thinking back to when it started - what first went 'wrong' and how did you respond to it?  Not to make you feel bad at all :-* but often we unintentionally reinforce habits by the way we respond to the (very normal) ups and downs in sleep.  It sounds like perhaps she got upset, you soothed her with a feed and now you've both slipped back to that habit again? 

You can absolutely use PUPD here if that worked well for her the first time, and you're ready.  Just instead of actually picking up, you're now doing just 'put down'.  So if she stands and cries for you, go in, lie her down, say your sleep phrase and step back (or out).  She's slept independently before if I interpret what you've said correctly?  In which case you can use WIWO in combination with the put down - https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=62612.0  This worked very well for my daughter at a similar age.  We didn't have co-sleeping or feed props to deal with but we did have 'shrieking like a banshee at bedtime' for an hour or more until she learned that we would always come back to her.

In terms of feeding, had she previously dropped night feeds?  It's not out of the normal range to still have a night feed at this age so you might want to think about when, and if, you feed her.  My two EBF babies had both dropped all night feeds by this point (possibly a 5.30/6am feed which I just counted as the morning feed) but they would have been having more in the way of solids.  Solids certainly aren't the answer to all sleep issues though!!!  Just something to think about :)
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