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Night Wakings / 2 hour NW every night in 5.5 month old
« Last post by *Jo* on August 16, 2017, 15:40:55 pm »
This is doing my head in. Dd has been sock the past week or so with bronchiolitis, in hosp twice for it so we've been doing a lot of AP but for the most part it's been patting to sleep. The past few days we've been getting days on track again. For some reason at night she wakes up and just chats for two hours!!! Nothing gets her back to sleep! I patted for 40mins at one point and she just happily talked away or moaned. I've offered a bottle, she doesn't really take it or if she does she takes it til she coughs and then stops.

Her A time is 2.5 hours. I reduced her A time while sick of course but she's back to not going to sleep any sooner than that. She's also EW. Here's how her day went yesterday

5:15am wake up and would not go back to sleep so finally got her up at 5:45am
E 6:30am
A 5:15 - 7:45
S 7:45 - 8:30 (had to wake her for the school run)

E 10:20
S 10:30 - 12:45

E 1:50 ( small feed before school run) & 3:30 (top up as hungry)
S 3:45 - 4:30 (had to wake up to maintain decent bedtime)

E 5:20 (snacked on bottle) 6:30 bedtime bittle
S put to bed at 6:45 but wouldn't go to sleep til 7:30, just moaned and moaned with eyes closed the entire time, tried patting, offering rest of bottle, patting more)

Here we are at 2:30am she's awake again and won't go back to sleep.

Due to school runs I can't do much about those two naps but I try for a decent one in the middle of the day
E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: FTM and would like some sleep
« Last post by ZanesOTmom on August 16, 2017, 12:24:05 pm »
HI there. Thanks so much for all the supports.
With regards to your suggestion of pushing bedtime to later, say 8pm, did you mean to start the day later too? DS woke up at 8am when I read your response so I thought, perfect! We can move the whole day. And we've been following that since with A time pushed for 5-10mins whenever I'm able to. However, he had always been awake between 6-7am. As soon as I stop shpatting, he's wakes up and wide awake again. We do this til it's 8am WU, or close to at least. Bedtime routine starts 6:45-7:15pm. He's in bed by 8pm. Problem is, he doesn't sleep til 9pm now! 😳

Should I go back to 7am WU as that's his usual WU time? But how do I do EASY so he goes to bed later? I've been following the 4-hour EASY...  ???

Other than the early waking and late bedtime, he's been consistently waking up for 2 feeds at night. He still needs help transitioning during naps but overall, I'm very happy of his routine, and I think so is the LO. :) thanks again.
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Support for dropping the nap part 12
« Last post by creations on August 16, 2017, 10:56:50 am »
Hi there.
I think this support thread has been a bit quiet recently so it might be worth your while to get more focused support on the toddler sleep board.  Do feel welcome to start your own thread.

I would agree with what you've said about needing to do several (many) days in a row to adjust to no nap.  it is not a quick process for many LOs.  When mine dropped to no naps it took several weeks (or more) before his night sleep lengthened out properly so he was getting gradually more and more tired as time went on, eventually though his night lengthened. I think it was about 10.5/11hrs when he first dropped his nap and then extended to 12 solid hrs when he had properly settled into it.

Depending how long the nap is you might find it easier to to offer a little CN every day for a while rather than drop the nap totally if it's giving rough nights.  Some people cap the nap shorter and shorter until it's say 10 mins.  Maybe try that?
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 2nd Yr Molar Sleep Chaos!
« Last post by JennVanessa1083 on August 16, 2017, 10:34:09 am »
He didn't fall asleep until almost 8 and then had a few NW and currently awake at 5 am!

Ok case he doesn't go back to sleep. What do I do for the day?

This is insane.
Sounds like you're relaxing into it a bit even though there's still plenty of uncertainty.

I'm suspecting she just prefers a later wakeup+bedtime like her mommy...
Much as I had to just be ok with DS having a really early WU like me ;)
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 2nd Yr Molar Sleep Chaos!
« Last post by Haribo2012 on August 16, 2017, 06:41:59 am »
Fingers crossed x
General Sleep Issues / Re: 10 wks, routine help pls
« Last post by Sorbai on August 16, 2017, 02:52:08 am »
Thanks, I reference those 2 links all the time! That was the first time he ever had such an early night -  I think fogurong out the 1 hr 15 min awake time was key, and not letting naps get longee than 2 hrs, esp his first  nap cuz otherwise he thinks he is just still in night sleep

He's been going down ok at 730/8 and sleeping 45 min to an hr and then needing so much rocking to stay in sleep mode. Hoping this is just a short period of time to teach him "this is night time" cuz all the rocking makes me crazy!
Night Wakings / Re: Hit 9 months and waking again! To feed or not to feed?
« Last post by Lana on August 16, 2017, 00:06:39 am »
Personally I would not feed in the night.  I would offer water but that is all.  Then I would work hard on getting his calories in during the day.  Can you give him the last bottle right before bed?  Why is he refusing food? 
Hullo!  Been a while, so just posting an update.

- She's been waking up between 8-9am and mommy is too tired to wake her earlier.  We don't have any pressing need to do an earlier BT/WU, so we'll just work with this.

- A time by itself doesn't seem to affect her long/short naps.  Long A times (~3h) have generally led to short naps.  Short A times (1.5-2h) have led to long naps.

- The extra E seems to correlate to long naps, but no guarantees.  Today morning was a fail, for example.  E right before nap seems to lead to long naps, but don't want to make a habit of nursing-to-nap.  Playing around with the timing of the extra E now.

- The earlier we move bedtime, the worse the first NW gets.  With a late BT we either get no early NW at all or a short/happy one.  I'm suspecting she just prefers a later wakeup+bedtime like her mommy...

- Still doing 2-3 NFs
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 2nd Yr Molar Sleep Chaos!
« Last post by JennVanessa1083 on August 15, 2017, 21:34:48 pm »
Lol that's a good method. Yea we have been using Motrin at bedtime and I added a second dose at a NW. I think it's a mix of teeth and built up OT that gave me last nights craziness!

I pushed him to 12:30 to avoid deviating to much from his schedule and he did 1.5. Planning to have him down by around 7-7:30 and pray he sleeps at least until 6:30 am.
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