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E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Do I need to move to 4 hour EASY?
« Last post by maybell245 on July 19, 2017, 15:44:08 pm »
It does, thanks.

This morning her first A time was 2 hours.  She slept 45 minutes and woke and cried and I went in and shush-patted off and on for 40 minutes (which I could because my mom is here with the 4 year old today....I can only do so long when it's just me).  She went back to sleep and is sleeping.

When this happens and she DOES go back to sleep, do I let her sleep for a total of 2 hours if she wants or just up to when the next feed would have been if she had slept 2 straight hours? 

When this happens and she DOESN'T go back to sleep, do I start the A time from when she woke (today at 9:45) or from when she would have had she slept 2 hours?
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Bottle Feeding / Re: 5 week old routine - I think I wrong
« Last post by Lindsay27 on July 19, 2017, 15:05:27 pm »
Hello and welcome to BW!  At 5 weeks he is still so tiny, I would not be removing any night feeds at all.  At this age it is perfectly normal for him to be feeding every 3hrs around the clock.  If he wakes from hunger at 1am please feed him - as you said him taking 700+mls at the next feed is probably too much and likely causing more issues (tummy trouble and throwing up from taking too much) than had you just fed him at 1am.  Many babies need a NF until they are well established on solids around 8 months.
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Trouble getting 16 month old down
« Last post by Lindsay27 on July 19, 2017, 15:00:54 pm »
Could be developmental, but I think for now the best think to do is just to set a nap time.  A 1.20hr nap tends to indicate UT so I would pick a time (12:15?) and stick to it for at least a week.  Eventually her body clock will adjust if it is consistent.  As long as the nap is decent then I would stick to a BT between 6:30/7pm.
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Help needed
« Last post by ginger428 on July 19, 2017, 14:59:21 pm »
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=113115.0

Here is a link to people's experiences with the transition.  I think it is time bc it is a big safety concern. Even if he is adept at getting in and out, you don't ever want to ever have "that moment" when something goes wrong.  A friend on BW told me that her cot came with a safety label that states to move out of the crib when they start to climb out. Our crib was convertible, so we just took down a side and put up the half railing.

He is probably undertired for his nap. I would move the nap to 1:30 to start, see how he does. If he still messes about, try 1:45. Then 2:00. My son has a longer A time in the morning than yours but typically 2yo need at least 6 hours of activity before nap. I would also suggest a very active activity for him daily. I have many friends with truly active kids that need intense physical activity to help release their energy and be tired enough for sleep.  Also typical around this age is the decrease in amount of daytime sleep... In your case, I would try the later naptime and cap nap at 1 hr. to preserve bedtime at 8:30. 

As for keeping him in bed, it's a matter of consistency and reinforcement of your routine. And perhaps for him a reward system. Have you used a sticker chart before>  A simple grid with 4 in a row or so, where for every time he stays in bed 5 times in a row, he gets a special treat- 15 min of tv, a small new ball at the store, an extra book at bedtime, etc...

How is potty training going? These are big changes so if you feel there isn't progress with PT, consider waiting until he settles with the big bed and naps. If he's doing well, by all means keep going! Just so you know, sometimes they regress when switching to a big boy bed... it should be temporary.


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Bottle Feeding / 5 week old routine - I think I wrong
« Last post by Daniela Stambazzi on July 19, 2017, 14:16:22 pm »
Hello,
as suggested i make a new post.

My name is Daniela and I'm writing from Italy. We don't have forum for bottle feeding since is not socially accepted (we have only breast feeding consulting)..and I need your help.
I have a 5 week old baby who is on a 3 hour routine.
We have removed 1am feeding 4 nights ago, so now he eats more beacuse we passed from 8 to 7 suck
 and it's not easy for him, sometime it seems too much for him since he brings up.
At the same time I would like to remove night feeding, and I can't increase formula quantity.
I have a feeding diary and I think I gave him too much formula because before remove 1am and 5am suck he was used to take 700 ml, with 3 hour routine and wake up 3 am he took 870 ml..with stomachache
 
Since I have noted he can stay 4 hour without feeding ..can I not wake up him to feed during the day and pass to a 4 hour routine?
Many thanks,
Daniela

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Bottle Feeding / Re: 5 week old routine
« Last post by Daniela Stambazzi on July 19, 2017, 14:01:18 pm »
Hi Laura, many thanks :)
I'll do it right now
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Night Wakings / 7 month old 11pm-Midnight waking until 4am 🙄
« Last post by steffie.b on July 19, 2017, 13:15:21 pm »
I have a 5 year old and a 7 month old (both boys). 5 yrs old perfect sleeper, needs his 13-hrs straight sleep a night - no problem. 7 month old (tried exactly same routine I did with my eldest, which worked) awful nights 😌.
Was BF until 4 months, now bottle fed.
My routine;
Take upstairs 6pm
Pull curtains, put on classical music on radio,
(Bath if bath night) or Nappy change, body grow on.
Bottle, with dim lights, listening to music.
Read 1 story, as he's rubbing his eyes and tired.
Lay down, in sleeping bag, leave room.
Self soothes to sleep....7pm.
Starts throwing his arms about, rubbing his eyes, tossing and turning....11pm-midnight.
Because they're both now in the same room, I'm probably going in to quickly to him, but I don't want him waking my eldest.
Between midnight and 4 am (unless I get him in with my husband and I) up down up down constantly. Fidgety, restless, groaning, crying baby!!!!!!!!
....... HELP!!!!
Naps during the day, morning around 1 1/2. Afternoon 1hr and late afternoon 3:30 for half an hour.
....I know it just needs 'tweaking'... But how ?!?!?!?!
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Bottle Feeding / Re: 5 week old routine
« Last post by Lolly on July 19, 2017, 12:10:48 pm »
Hi Daniela!

Can I suggest you start a new thread and post your days routine so we can tailor advice for you please?

I would say though that 5 weeks is way to young to be stopping night feeds - their tummies are tiny at this age and they need regular feeds around the clock for a while yet.

I would expect a 5 week old bottle fed baby to have a bedtime feed and then a dreamfeed or an awake feed around 10pm and then feeds around 1am and 4am. Some babies will go 4 hours between feeds at this age, but if they wake and it's been at least 3 hours since the last bottle you should feed.

Laura
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 1 year old and amount of sleep
« Last post by Chloevalentine on July 19, 2017, 11:42:56 am »
We've finally started to wake at a decent time in the morning! Yippee. Still having a hard time timing the nap. Just recently he's sleeping until 630-7 and won't take the nap before school run but can't make it until afterwards so he'll dose off in the car around 12 but wakes as we get home 1215 or will only sleep 30 mins. So it messes up our one long nap idea but then hes not tired or it's too late for another nap. Maybe today I can see if he'll go down at 11 which is a 4 hr A time but then I'll have to wake him by 1140 to leave for school run and he'll never go down before 344/4 for second nap which will be too late. Ugh. I've been trying so hard to push out his schedule and get later mornings and it finally worked but with this school run I still can't make it work. 1 more week of camp then I'll have the flexiblilty. But I'm just worried that I'm not being consistent enough now to help guide him into a routine if that makes sense. He was doing wake 630 nap 10/1130 bedtime 7 but just recently I can't get him down that early for nap and he's also sleeping until 645/7 am.
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Well, little or no improvement here but at least we're getting some consistency?

Good thing is she's started waking up a little later, around 6.30 / 7am in the morning which is good. I think cutting short the last nap at 17.15 - 17.30 is making a difference as she's really tired during bath time and goes down in about 20mins which is soooooo much better than the 2+hrs it was taking.

The first nap at 8am is touch and go. Two mornings out of 5 she's gone down for 35mins, one morning literally 4 mins and then she was up smiling, the other two mornings she just fought it so I gave up. I'll keep trying.

She's teething pretty bad now, she NWs are x4 but still only 2 of those are NF. The first NW is around 2.5/3.5hrs since she went down at about 21.30/22.30. I tried settling her with shhh pat but what seems to work best is a bit of teething gel and a hug and lay her back down and she goes off. Win! I think this means for sure that it's teething rather than OT?

We recently (3 days ago) introduced a lovey. Reason being we need to transition her to a cot soon as she's getting too tall for her basket (though it's good it's snug at the moment because she's practicing rolling like all.day.long.). We thought it would be good for her to have a familiar object to take from one sleep location to another so it's not allllll new? Don't really know how to use it but I've been propping it up to read our bed time story with us and I kind of rub it on her skin a bit at nap time and tell her it's time for sleep so hopefully she's start to associate it with sleep in a month or two.
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