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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 13 month old naps gone wonky. need help!
« Last post by Toddlerfun1 on June 17, 2018, 01:02:19 am »
Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts and ideas! 11am is totally doable for her and I could try doing a catnap at 5pm but then what is her bedtime with the catnap being so late?
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General Sleep Issues / Re: Early WU help
« Last post by Kerriam on June 16, 2018, 19:18:30 pm »
Thank you so much. This sounds like great advice. I will try this and come back if I have any further questions. Thanks!
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: We dropped the nap, now night waking
« Last post by Haribo2012 on June 16, 2018, 18:39:52 pm »
Fingers crossed lol you never know x
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: We dropped the nap, now night waking
« Last post by Conniesmummy on June 16, 2018, 16:07:46 pm »
Hi Zoe, she dropped off after ballet in the car about 11, only let her have 30 mins and told Mum to keep her chilled and not let her get too giddy before bed 🤦‍♀️
Sheís had a quietist day so fingers crossed sheís not awake when we get home at 11pm!!!
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General Sleep Issues / Re: Early WU help
« Last post by creations on June 16, 2018, 12:41:31 pm »
Hi there Kerriam

Often when LOs start waking earlier we tend to put them down for the nap earlier to keep their A time the same each day.  Sometimes this can end up perpetuating the earlier wake up.  If your routine has been 3hr A for a while and it was working what you might need instead is maybe 3hr 15 on the first A to avoid the earlier waking.
To get back on track I would suggest moving the whole day on by 15 mins each day.  It's possible a little OT might build up but this is just the same as a clock change which loads of people do every year.  Day 1 no nap before 9am, Day 2 9.15am and so on until you have reached more like 10am or 10.15 for the first nap.  When you move the day on you need to move everything, milk, meals, nap, bath everything as LO uses all they cues to know where they are in the day.  BT will be shifting too.  WU might not improve for the first few days but after several days you should see it come later too.
Once you have things in place perhaps keep to the 3hr 15 first A time and see what happens. It could be LO needs a bit more but you won't know that yet.

The night length is actually not bad, it's just too early to bed and too early to WU.  11hr night are OK.  When one of the naps shortens you might get a longer night again if you used to get longer.  Some LOs are able to do 12hr night, some just can't, so it depends really on what a normal night length is for your LO.

Hope this helps. See how you get on and let us know if you need more help or if you have more questions.
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Dropping the nap
« Last post by creations on June 16, 2018, 12:31:41 pm »
"Mummy, how long do I have to wait, I think I'm going to wake up now"
Ha ha that's so cute :)

And happy birthday to the little man :)

Luck for today!!
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: We dropped the nap, now night waking
« Last post by Haribo2012 on June 16, 2018, 11:44:19 am »
I was hoping for 11 hours after a 1 hr nap but he only did 10hr 45, 7.45pm to 6.30am. Could have been worse I suppose.

I think thatís an ok night on a nap, weíd onky get 11 hours on a 30 min nap.

Conniesmummy - Iíd do 20 min CN if sheís with your mum save the possibility of her letting her nap for an hour at tea time 😉
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Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Dropping the nap
« Last post by evwright on June 16, 2018, 11:13:49 am »
Sneaking back in here at 4 years and one day  :D

First day of holiday! We had a 20min nap in the car between 1.30-2pm, so nice and early. Unfortunately very excited plus lots of family equalled late to bed, out cold at 9pm. 5.40am "Mummy, how long do I have to wait, I think I'm going to wake up now"  ::) ;D I've never been up so early... (and my heart goes out to those of you with early wakers). He's gone out with family so no chance for  cat nap and I'll have to stretch him to an early bedtime in hope of a later start tomorrow. Wish us luck!
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General Sleep Issues / Early WU help
« Last post by Kerriam on June 16, 2018, 10:53:43 am »
My baby is almost 8 months and has been waking up super early the past two weeks. Prior to that he was sleeping until 7am but recently itís been 5:45am. We moved him into the room with my 3 year old and at first it wasnít as dark in there in the morning as in our room where he moved from but Iíve since gotten blackout shades and curtains and have towels so itís as dark as I can possibly make it but Iím afriad now his early WU has become a habit. So I need some help trying to break it. Heís been waking my toddler up who has been really struggling as well now.
Hereís our EASY from yesterday:

WU: 5:45, I changed him, gave him a bottle and tried to put him back down but no luck
E: 6:30 tried bottle again as a proper WU routine but he didnít drink much / 8:00 breakfast
A: 3 hours
S: 8:45 nap - 9:55 (1:05)
E: 10:30 bottle (didnít drink much) / 12:00 lunch
A: 3 hours 35 min
S: 1:30 nap - 3:15 (1:45)
E: 3:45 bottle / 6:00 supper
A: 3 hours 5 min
S: 6:50 asleep

I put him to bed a little early as he usually goes down 7:15ish in hope that heíll be more inclined to go back to sleep after his early WU but it didnít work. He was up at 5:45 again and probably got enough sleep (11hours) at that point. I think heís sleeping and napping okay but I need to adjust his schedule up an hour or so. How do I do that when he seems stuck at this 5:45 WU?

Thanks!
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Naps / Re: Advice on how to start teaching independent sleep to 12wo
« Last post by creations on June 16, 2018, 08:16:16 am »
Welcome back katkirch - wow I can't believe 2 months has gone by so quickly and your LO is already 12wks old!

Adding to what bec already said, if you can use a firm hand to rock him (very small movements) whilst he is in the cot you may be able to recreate a similar movement sensation to the bouncing you have been doing. Initially the "work" you put in may seem just as much as you have been doing this far but it would be a great step to get those naps in the cot and link the cycles together in the cot.  You can even use the firm hand/rocking in the cot throughout the nap to get him used to doing a full nap to begin with as part of sleep training is habit building, if you help him build the habit of sleeping longer he will be more ready to do it alone.

Let us know how you get on.
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