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General Sleep Issues / Progressing to Independent Sleep from Shush Pat
« Last post by Hoofbeat on May 22, 2017, 13:02:13 pm »
We've been using the shush pat technique for about 6weeks, with great success. My LO (almost 5 months) is so easy to get down for naps in his own cot now thanks to the techniques. We have a short wind down routine with the last part involving him lying in his cot listening to a song. We then turn on some white noise (our equivalent of shushing) and he has a short mantra cry sometimes, and we gently pat until he is quiet and then sit with our hands on him til he falls asleep on his own. Sometimes we do this with him laying on his back, but if he starts wriggling (he isn't swaddled) we roll him onto his side and then turn him onto his back once he's asleep.

I am wondering how to progress to the next stage of getting him to sleep completely independently. I'm not in a rush to do this (so am happy to wait til he's a bit older if that's best) but am just interested to know what the next stage is. We haven't tried just leaving him in his bed to fall asleep on his own, but I'm fairly sure he would cry as he seems to take great comfort from us being there. We've already reduced the noise of the shushing and stop patting a lot sooner than we use to (as soon as he's quiet usually), so I'm not sure what the next step is?

Also, does anyone have any advice on naps when out and about? Whilst DS is great falling asleep in his own bed, sometimes he needs to nap in his pram when out and about and we've rarely had any success with shush pat in that (it's also physically quite awkward to manage!). Will this just improve when he starts being able to fall asleep independently?

Thank you

ETS: When we put him down for naps at him, provided we have the timing right, he generally falls asleep within about 5 minutes of being put down, but sometimes it might be nearer 10 minutes.
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General Sleep Issues / Re: Baby fighting sleep
« Last post by jessmum46 on May 22, 2017, 12:18:47 pm »
That's quite common, night and day sleep are (apparently) controlled in different ways in the brain. Keep hanging in there, I found crib naps we had much more success closer to 10 weeks or so x
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Naps / Re: Serial Cat Napper! Please Help!
« Last post by becj86 on May 22, 2017, 12:16:48 pm »
Then he woke every 5-10mins from 4:30-5:30am and was then up for the day.
The long waking and this pattern are both classic of too short an A time in the morning.
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Bottle Feeding / Not very interested in afternoon bottle
« Last post by Chloevalentine on May 22, 2017, 11:34:21 am »
My 10 mo lo has 3 bottles. Morning and bedtime are both 8-9 oz and I offer him one at around 2-3 pm but he's not very interested and only takes about 4 oz. is he ready to drop to just 2 bottles already?
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Breast Feeding / Re: 3 month old can't make it to 3 hours
« Last post by deb on May 22, 2017, 11:33:55 am »
I don't know why I didn't think to ask this sooner, but does she take a pacifier/dummy? Some babies just like - and some NEED! - to suckle *something* as they drop off to sleep.
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General Sleep Issues / Re: 6mo frequent night waking
« Last post by leesa001 on May 22, 2017, 07:57:29 am »
Yes he will half the time roll over ans go straight back to sleep.  If the pacifier doesn't work and he is upset I will try to offer him water, but that usually makes him more upset because he just wants the boob. I will only offer three breast if it's been at least 2hrs since his last feeding.but I'm trying to stretch this out
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Breast Feeding / Re: 3 month old can't make it to 3 hours
« Last post by *Ali* on May 22, 2017, 07:47:13 am »
Yes I think your plan is a good one.

All babies are different and even the same baby will have slightly different feeds on different days so there's no table. Yes, many EBF  babies feed frequently until solids are established.

Have you considered pumping a bottle and seeing if she'll take that if you need to leave her? Or some babies will feed from an open cup with a little help and some mess.
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General Sleep Issues / 7 month old EMW
« Last post by BobbysMummy on May 22, 2017, 07:45:29 am »
It's been 4.30am for the last 3 days, before that it was 5am for a few days. I can do 6am, but just not 4.30!! Then because he's up early he has his first nap early which means we're back to 3 naps when we had previously been on 2. He's on 3 hour awake time. 3 meals. We've gone back to giving night feeds because he stopped taking much milk in the day, we started offering water on a night, but have given milk the last 2 nights. So hunger isn't why he's waking early I don't think. He's just popped his first tooth 2 days ago. Any advice? XX
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Naps / Re: Serial Cat Napper! Please Help!
« Last post by JCN on May 22, 2017, 06:31:25 am »
So yesterday, he had a 1hr am nap, a 1.5hr pm nap (with lots of ssh/pat resettling every 30min sleep cycle)and then a 30min cat nap before tea as we were travelling, from 5:00-5:30pm. This meant we were in a position to push back BT, which we did- to 7:30pm.

We still had NWs, frequently. 8:30pm for his dummy. 2:00am he was awake for an hour before finally resettling at 3:00am. Then he woke every 5-10mins from 4:30-5:30am and was then up for the day.

This is happening every night, regardless of nap times, awake times and BT. I've tried altering and varying it so many ways.
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Breast Feeding / Re: 3 month old can't make it to 3 hours
« Last post by annesmama on May 22, 2017, 06:20:14 am »
Yeah - I think we are the opposite!  I used to think her fussing was 'tired' and I would try to put her down, but she wouldn't go to sleep easily and always woke up early.  Per other thread, we've been extending her A times. The last couple days I've been feeding her at that fussy mark, and now she'll usually perk up for another round of A.

Maybe I'll do a mix: always feed on wakeup, so we have that routine, and then second feed on-demand. It'll be EAEAS but the second E isn't timed. Does that make sense?
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