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General Sleep Issues / Re: Hand holding and advice pls
« Last post by eva026 on December 10, 2017, 07:17:59 am »
She finally fell asleep at 5.20, woke 6.30 and I got her back to sleep pretty quickly on me till 8am.
Will try 2.20ish today
Yes I fed mid way through the nw. I tried as soon as she woke thinking she was hungry but she wouldnít even latch on till much later.
She is sitting a bit better, slowly working out how to support herself on her hands before she topples to the side. Iíd be handling this all better if it wasnít on top of weeks and weeks of bad nights.
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General Sleep Issues / Re: Hand holding and advice pls
« Last post by becj86 on December 10, 2017, 05:42:15 am »
I don't think she needs a reduction in the next A time after an UT nap - so just do the 2:15-2:20 again. I reckon I'd reduce to 2hr if she did a 30min OT nap though.

Did you feed at that long NW? DYT it might be developmental with sitting/crawling? Otherwise, yes, keep it to at least 2:20 first A time and maybe a smidgeon longer and see what happens.
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Naps / Re: Naps in common room
« Last post by becj86 on December 10, 2017, 05:38:48 am »
Did he do that naturally or did you have a period of coaching him to do that?
He just kicked up such a fuss when I was taking him to his room that I decided to just swaddle him on the floor. I'd then hold my hand on his chest and sing and he'd go to sleep. It took a few goes before he'd sleep like that in other places though.

Have a read of this link:
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=64515.0
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General Sleep Issues / Re: Hand holding and advice pls
« Last post by eva026 on December 10, 2017, 04:03:03 am »
Ended up with This:
WU 7.53
S 10.08
Wu 11.40
S14.00 in sling we were out
Wu 14.45
S 16.35 sling
Wu 17.20
EBT 19.20
Nw 20, 20.30, NF 10.00,1am
Itís 5am and sheís been up the last hour.
So more A? What would the A be on a short nap? I did about 2 h but thatís obviously not working
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Naps / Re: Naps in common room
« Last post by SNSmith on December 10, 2017, 01:16:04 am »
Thank you! Thatís really encouraging. Iíve noticed exactly what you said about the noise stopping- if she falls asleep with the dishwasher/laundry running and it stops she wakes up. That made me laugh about your son sleeping on the floor, what a wonderful skill for portability! Maybe we will try that. Did he do that naturally or did you have a period of coaching him to do that? Also is there a good post about some of the differences between day sleep/naps and night sleep? Iíd love to learn more about that!
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Naps / Re: Naps in common room
« Last post by becj86 on December 09, 2017, 21:24:13 pm »
Hi, welcome :)

Making noise is not really an issue necessarily. My son slept through all sorts of noises so long as he knew what they were. Have you ever put your head on someone's chest/tummy and heard all the noises - heart beating, breathing, gut gurgling, etc. She's been living in there with that noise constantly for months so noise doesn't necessarily cause problems. What did cause issues for us (and I know, a lot of others also) was when the noise stopped. So DS would fall asleep with the shower running but as soon as I turned it off, he'd be awake. You could try using white noise so she has something constant going.

She can certainly nap in the PNP in your room. Naps and night sleep are quite different, so having two different spaces shouldn't be an issue and having a baby who can sleep in a PNP is invaluable when you go out for an evening or something and you can put LO down whilst you eat with friends or some such.

Also have thought perhaps as her A time lengthens this will sort itself out as I can work while she plays.
You're right. Her feeding will be come more efficient and her A time will increase and give you more time to do things.

FWIW, my son loved sleeping swaddled on the floor of the living room and I'd be able to work in the kitchen while he slept. Sleeping in common spaces can work.
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Naps / Re: Need help with 2-1 nap transition or is it to early?
« Last post by becj86 on December 09, 2017, 21:17:27 pm »
Yep, 2-1 transition can certainly start here. Its nothing like as fast as 3-2 so you've a while to sit with a long nap and a CN which just gradually reduces in length.

I think a 12hr night is unrealistic at this point - think of a 13hr day/11hr night. You can probably make the CN 45min or so.
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General Sleep Issues / Re: Hand holding and advice pls
« Last post by becj86 on December 09, 2017, 21:14:38 pm »
Or was that a nw and 7.50am is the start to the day?
I would just call it a long happy NW.

I'd go for 2:20 and see how you go. Glad DH is helping out a bit.
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Breathing quickly happens often but only for a few minutes at a time when she is excited !As for NF, no I was trying not to fed her since DF was at 10pm. I don't find my flow very high at night. I kinda feel empty at night. I was thinking of dropping the DF since TH recommends it but I guess I won't if she still is hungry?. The last two days I have been trying to feed her often during the day so she gets most her calories during daytime hours and doesn't get in the habit of shifting some of her caloric intake to night time. Also that makes sense what you said about solids having less calories than BM. I reduced her solids so I am only feeding solids earlier in the day.As for the crankiness she just lies on her mat or sits up and I
Yes, you don't want her UT for BT...

she doesn't usually wake screaming hence why I stare at monitor a lot to find out when A time starts.
I wouldn't worry too much about being that exact. I would let her tell you when she's ready to get up and count time she spends lying in bed quietly as sleep time, TBH. Its also not a bad idea to have her get used to lying in bed quietly - definitely a skill you will want when she's a bit older.

2:30am W PuPd for 1h30
How was she behaving here? Was she just awake, awake and happy or awake and unhappy? If just awake and quiet/happy, you can just leave her to it.

I think 3:10-3:15 sounds like the go for her based on what you've said. Still no luck with resettling the 30min wakings... you've tried using the same method she went to sleep with, right?
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Breast Feeding / Re: Starting work and moving from BF to Formula - How to?
« Last post by Erin M on December 09, 2017, 21:07:29 pm »
Good luck!
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