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Breast Feeding / Re: Extended Nursing Support Thread Part 5
« Last post by *Ali* on June 25, 2017, 23:12:47 pm »
If anyone who's weaned a toddler would care to take a look at my weaning post on the weaning support thread that'd be great. TIA.
Just checking in as I'm keen to wean my 2.5yo DD. I'm 18wks pregnant and it's so painful to nurse plus I don't fancy tandeming again like I did with my first two. I'd rather wean her now than too close to the birth so she doesn't link it with the baby's arrival. We're down to just morning and BT feeds anyway. I've been trying to distract her with getting up and going straight down for breakfast. She went 3 days in a row without the morning feed doing this but I do feed her when she asks. At BT I've been offering to cuddle her and sing to her instead.  Some nights she accepts and some nights she insists on boob. I've become strict about her mucking around though and tell her if she gets off that's the end of the feed and it's time to go in the cot. She was getting on and off for water and a toy and such at one point  Some nights she literally has 10 seconds and is done. I think due to pregnancy and skipping so many feeds my supply is very low anyway. I didn't get that full feeling even when I went 36hrs without a feed at one point this week.

I've also been telling her that the boobie milk only lasts so long and I think she's nearly drunk it all now. I feel a bit guilty especially when she told me to fill my boobs up again with milk from the fridge 😂 but it's just a white lie I hope will do no damage.

Anyone else weaned gently at this sort of age?
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 2yr old routine? Tons of BT resistance!
« Last post by creations on June 25, 2017, 19:18:44 pm »
Mine couldn't have coped with any flexibility on sleep times when he was 2yo,. very much into routine - of course that doesn't mean we didn't have BT resistance, birthday developmental phase and the molars caused huge problems but put those aside what he really needed was consistency, a very predictable routine.

You didn't say what time he finally went to sleep at BT, I am guessing 9.30 based on the 6hr A time you mentioned.  9.30pm is certainly too late.  How about cap the nap, how does he do with capped naps?  So many LOs adapt well to it, 1hr, of if this is already common reduce to 45 min or 30 min.  I'd really try to keep BT no later than 8pm but that's my personal limit on BT. I know when mine went through the 1-0 his nights went low, really low, like 9 hrs or less.  A 10 hr night with the nap in place is probably not too bad really until he's ready to drop the nap.
FWIW mine pretty much thought he was ready to drop the nap at 24/25 months but he wasn't, it took him a while of nap resistance and/BT resistance to finally realise that he wasn't that happy and he then went back to accepting nap and night time well for a few months.  So, this blip around the birthday, it is quite normal and can look like the 1-0 drop but the final nap drop might not happen for another 6 months.

Sorry there's no clear answer - I'd try capping the nap shorter as it works for mos even if not mine.
E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Baby sleeps through night but day naps are short
« Last post by creations on June 25, 2017, 19:08:30 pm »
Yes, sorry I might have got a bit confused with the way the times were described, it looked like E at 9.30/10.00 then 1hr 30 before another E and the E coming right before S.
Lets look at it a different way, you'd be aiming for E every 3hrs and A to be approx 1hr 30:
WU 7.30
E 7.30
A 1hr 30
S 9.00 - 10.30
E 10.30
A 1hr 30
S 12 - 1.30
...and so on...

But if your LO is falling to sleep at 7.30 at the first E time then it throws off the routine so it might be like this (I'm guessing)
WU 7.30
E 7.30
S 7.30/8.00
A 8am - 9.30am 1hr 30
S *** 9.30 - 10.30/11 (11 wake up with a 1.5hr nap and LO is unlikely to mind feeding a touch late if he is asleep otherwise 1hr nap)
E 10.30/11 (depending how long that nap was)
A 1hr 30
S 12 - 1.30 or 12.30 - 2.00
E 1.30/2.00
and so on

*** That's where you would be putting LO to sleep without feeding, no prop, using shush/pat.

I hope that's a bit clearer - I may still be misinterpreting your information, in which case sorry, it's tricky sometimes to explain stuff when LO is falling to sleep eating and to be honest it is hard to judge if they ate enough or slept enough or how long their A time is supposed to be because it's unclear if they were sleeping or eating.  the examples above might not be what is happening for you, but perhaps looking at them you can work out something suitable for you so that you can make that move towards eating after sleep and breaking the F2S prop?
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: 2yr old routine? Tons of BT resistance!
« Last post by JennVanessa1083 on June 25, 2017, 19:02:58 pm »
He isn't in daycare...he's at home with either me or DH depending on the days. DH is a teacher so he has off for the summer and I work PT 3 days a week.

So how long are the days for 2 years olds? Like if DS doesn't nap until say 6-6.5A then naps for about 1-1.5 hours when is bedtime?

Example of today:
WU 7:30 am
S 2-3/3:30 pm
BT ?

He gets tons of activities in General unless he is just that energetic or starting to drop his nap?
Thanks ellieelmo! Been following your thread too! I'm so jelly of your 7 hour night stretch. :) But last night we had a 5 hour stretch! I woke up full of milk and it's been ages since that happened. On the minus side, we are two time zones over and it was from 1am to 6am. Couldn't get her to sleep earlier.

You know, the funny thing is she's stopped doing the shriek. Everything keeps changing. She used to calm down if I held her flailing limbs and now she haaates it.
Night Wakings / Re: 9 month old waking at night
« Last post by tired_mum on June 25, 2017, 14:19:53 pm »

I also have a 9 months old, he is sleeping through the night but waking at 5am. So this will not be an expert advice. ;)

I would try increasing his activity time for 15 minutes and see what happens. I think that if you get a bit longer naps during the day it will help with night as well.

I had to teach my boys to fall asleep independently to get them to sleep TTN but that may not be the case for you.
E.A.S.Y. Forum / Re: Baby sleeps through night but day naps are short
« Last post by Stephnaic on June 25, 2017, 13:50:19 pm »
 "If you gently move that 9.30/10 feed time closer to the 3hr mark, 10.30am you will be able to put LO down for the next nap without feeding.  LO is unlikely to need a proper fed after only 1.5hrs so you'd use shush/pat to settle him down and then feed after he wakes."

I'm not sure I quite understand that. So he wouldn't need to feed at 1030?
And thank you so much for replying to my concerns that was very helpful I will definitely try having more activity time after his feeds. He seems to self soothe himself with his thumb when I put him down to sleep during the day if he is tired enough.
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Dropping the last nap issue
« Last post by Haribo2012 on June 25, 2017, 12:07:03 pm »
It depends on the child, with my DS1 he struggled with OT and NW but DS2 at 17 months is much easier I just stick to set BT and he copes.

I'd say give it a couple of weeks and add 15 mins back on hols for 3-4 days and see how you get on. Feels like it will be forever but it won't.
Sleeping For Toddlers / Re: Dropping the last nap issue
« Last post by sszskristy on June 25, 2017, 10:55:47 am »
Hi hope u r still here, just one more question: when can I know I can adjust the bedtime back to 6 or even 6:30? No more NW or starts to struggle to fall asleep at bedtime? To be honest, I am really not enjoying this early bedtime thing. My husband arrives home at 6pm, so no father time at all, and I have to do all the bedtime routine by myself. Bathing  and putting PJ on her can be a nightmare now and sometimes it takes forever! And this is my only child...still struggle to have one more baby!
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