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So last year Mikey had a few night terrors but they abruptly stopped after a few days. So last week they came back!! I've had pretty much no sleep for about 9days now as every time i drop off he starts screaming and hyperventilating again, so i did a bit of searching about on the internet and found some pretty useful information and i thought I'd post it here in case it is of use to anyone else. Unfortunately most doctors seem to pass it off as 'just a bad dream' but it is so so much worse than just a bad dream, i know because i have had them on and off for the past 4 years, and only recently after talking to my mum about Mikey's did she recall me having them when i was a child too for a short time.

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People who have night terrors are often misdiagnosed. The most common one is a simple nightmare. Any of you who have had a night terror can say they aren't even close! Another common misdiagnosis (especially among veterans) is PTSD or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. For this reason I have included a description of the difference between nightmares and night terrors.

Symptoms of night terrors
Sudden awakening from sleep, persistent fear or terror that occurs at night, screaming, sweating, confusion, rapid heart rate, inability to explain what happened, usually no recall of "bad dreams" or nightmares, may have a vague sense of frightening images. Many people see spiders, snakes, animals or people in the room, are unable to fully awake, difficult to comfort, with no memory of the event on awakening the next day.

Night terror or nightmare?
Nightmares occur during the dream phase of sleep known as REM sleep. Most people enter the REM stage of sleep sometime after 90 minutes of sleep. The circumstances of the nightmare will frighten the sleeper, who usually will wake up with a vivid memory of a long movie-like dream. Night terrors, on the other hand, occur during a phase of deep non-REM sleep usually within an hour after the subject goes to bed. This is also known as stage 4. During a night terror, which may last anywhere from five to twenty minutes, the person is still asleep, although the sleepers eyes may be open. When the subject does wake up, they usually have no recollection of the episode other than a sense of fear. This, however, is not always the case. Quite a few people interviewed can remember portions of the night terror, and some remember the whole thing.

General information
Although night terrors can occur anytime in a persons life span, the most common is reported in children between the ages of three and five. (However more recent studies have turned up showing that many adults as well as children as young as six months experience night terrors on a weekly basis.) Night terrors usually occur fifteen minutes to one hour after going to sleep. The longer the person is in NREM (the stages before REM) before the night terror strikes, the more petrified they will be when it occurs. Keep in mind though not everyone falls to sleep in the same amount of time as others.

Night terrors have been shown to appear in stage 4 of sleep. This is just one thing that separates them from nightmares which can occur anytime in sleep. It is possible to make a night terror occur in some people, simply by touching or awakening them during stage 4 of sleep. Why night terrors occur is still a mystery. The mind is supposed to be practically void during the deeper stages of sleep. Most sufferers will awake gasping, moaning, crying but more often screaming.

Breathing rapidly they will sit up in bed with a wide eyed terror filled stare. This panic will often last anywhere from five to twenty minutes. A night terror generates a heart rate of 160 to 170 beats per minute. This is much faster than the normal heart rate that can be attained under most stressful circumstances.

Some things that can help bring out a night terror are stress, medications that affect the brain, (It is hard to list exactly which ones) being over-tired or eating a heavy meal before going to bed. Many different medical ailments contribute to the frequency of Night Terrors. (Once again to many and to hard to list) The listed items DO NOT cause night terrors, they just seem to put your body into the state where a night terror can manifest itself. People without night terrors will not have a night terror just by trying the above.

There seems to be a common question in how night terrors manifest themselves. Many people who remember the night terror have talked about seeing animals or people. Most people describe the person that they see as dark and shadowy and feel that the person is going to hurt them. Quite a few people see snakes and spiders.

Some people remember the Night Terror. Some don't. There is no explanation to why some have no recall of the events during a Night Terror. If you are told by a doctor that the fact you remember your night terror it must not be a night terror, find another doctor.

Arguably the best method of controlling someone during a night terror is to hug and reassure them and tell them that everything is all right. Agree with what they are saying and doing. Sometimes it is not possible to hug them. Don't try to force physical contact. DO NOT yell at them or tell them they are only dreaming as this seems to only upset them even more. Move objects that can injure the person out of the way. This method seems to work better in children rather than in adults. (Adults are a little more physical) The most important thing to remember is that someone having a night terror does not know what they are doing. Make sure that there is not anything nearby that they can hurt themselves or others with. It is perfectly safe to wake someone who is having a Night Terror. Please be gentle!

It is also interesting to note that two other disorders, sleepwalking and bed wetting, are experienced during stage 4 of sleep. Even more interesting is the fact that all three of these sleep disorders often run in families. Episodic night terrors DO NOT signify psychological problems. Don't ever tell the subject that nothing has happened. It is OK to tell that person, the next morning, they had a night terror. It is however not advisable to notify children the next morning if they do not remember.



Also I'd like to add most of this information came from a well recommended night terror website and as there is no medically available advice this information is just based on other people experiences of this condition and how they find it is the best way to deal with the condition, if you are worried if you or your child are having night terrors don't hesitate to visit your GP as if they are severe there are a few medications widely available to try and control night terrors.

I hope this is of some help to someone at some point, i know there is a severe lack of information available, i myself have only come across a handful of websites with good solid information about night terrors.

Katy xxx
« Last Edit: January 05, 2008, 17:54:58 pm by xxkaty20xx »





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thank you for that fabulous info, Jack sometimes has these, so this is very useful  :-*

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Thanks for the info. Isaac's had a few of these recently where he comes running out of his room screaming.
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I suspect Sam had this the other night. Thanks for this.
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Thanks for the info katy :-*.

we have got a sticky in FAQs about night terrors and night mares.would you mind if i copied your post and put the info in there as well??

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Thanks for the info katy :-*.

we have got a sticky in FAQs about night terrors and night mares.would you mind if i copied your post and put the info in there as well??
No feel free. I didn't realise there was already something about it  :-\





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Katy I was just thinking of you earlier today wondering where you've been lately!
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thanks soo much katy,imogen has these and i thought they were bad dreams :'( :'(.i didnt know or understand why she was squealing and i couldnt settle her for ages.
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Thanks Katy :-*

No the info is in the FAQs section so not immediately obvious :-\ .
Might move onto the TS board though as we get quite a few posts about NTs.

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Thanks, Leorah had night terrors, one after another on Xmas night from 6.30pm until 11pm, we couldn't console her and it was so upsetting. I am sure all the visitors and fuss from Xmas made her OT and OS. My mum was here actually and remembers me having them and I used to be a sleepwalker apparantly!!
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Just bumping this back up as there have been a lot of posts about night terrors again recently :)





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Thanks Katy. very informative. Will have to get DH to read it

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Thank you, Katy-
we've had these too- for about 1 month, nightly, when Nick was learning to walk. He was sleep walking, sitting, clapping too. It's so eerie sounding and you wish you could comfort them.

BTW, in my reading I've learned that NTs, sleepwalking, sleeptalking are all related. DH and I both have history of sleep walking/talking and that predisposes my son too...
also, there are events called confusional arousals which sounds very much like what SylvieA's son is doing.

Solving your Child's SLeep Problems by Dr. Ferber actually has extensive information on these and other sleep disorders. Don't let the Dr's name scare you off, it really is a useful book as far as info on sleep stages and describing the disorders. Get the new edition, though.
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