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Help unsettled time every night like clockwork
« on: May 30, 2009, 20:11:48 pm »
Hi, can anyone help.
My lo is 11 weeks and is perfect in everyway.  She is on the EASY routine and sleeps through the night. However she is never settled after her 5pm feed.  Like clockwork she takes a feed, has activity time and shows signs of tierdness, shes goes down for a nap and 30 mins later she is awake, crying and unsettled. Its takes my husband and I to soothe her, which can work and sometimes she gets herself in such a pickle and refuses to settle that she reaches the overtiered stage and then she really goes for it with tears etc.  Her typical day is this

Awake at 7.30/8am
E - 7.45/8am
A - til 9.15am
S - til 11.3/12pm

This fallows a similar pattern with her next feed.  When the 4pm/5pm feed happens she follows the above but is only alseep for 30mins before she goes through her diva moment. She is usually awake and exhausted by the time the 9pm feed comes along, she takes a full feed and an hour later is down for the night without a fuss and sleeps through til 7.30am/8am.

Any ideas on what is causing her to be unsettled at 6pm .

P.S she takes a bath in the morning as she hates having the bath at 5/6pm and we found that it made her sleep through her 9pm feed and we would have to wake her and this would result in her not taking a full feed and therefore not sleeping through the night.

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Darcey's Mum x

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Re: Help unsettled time every night like clockwork
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 11:04:09 am »
Hi there!!

So, at what time is your bedtime?
Do you have a bedtime routine?

Is your DD swaddled? Does she have reflux?
What does she do when she wakes up from that 30 min nap?

Can you post a complete day of your routine?

Thanks hun!!
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Re: Help unsettled time every night like clockwork
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 15:21:59 pm »
Her typical day is as follows:

Wakes between 7.30am and 8am, she takes a full 7 oz feed, then she is changed, bathed and we have some play time on her mat or in her swing.  She normally gets quite tired about an hour from being up and she goes down for a sleep until her next feed which is every 4 hours. She is not swaddled and goes down without a fuss and sleeps through me hoovering etc.

She wakes for her lunch feed say 12.30pm, she takes a 6 oz bottle, we follow the above routine of getting her nappy changed, we sometimes go out at this time for a walk in her pram /  car seat or trips to town or the supermarket. She sleeps well even though we are out and about.

Then comes the 4.30/5pm feed.  She takes a full 6oz, is happy and smiley and after her feed she is changed and we have play time again.  From about an hour from her wakin and taking a feed, she shows signs of being tired.  We sometimes leave it until she is really sleepy ( as in arms and legs in rapid movement) then we put her down for her evening nap.  This is when we try and have our dinner and without fail within 30 mins of her being put down she is crying. We soothe her with a dummy and try to calm her back to sleep.  Normally this does not work, we are not very good at leaving her to cry it out....so within 5mins of her non stop crys we pick her up and cuddle her.  When we put her back down she crys again.  It has happend on a few occaisions that she is crying so hard that we are at a loss as to what makes her so unsettled.  We always check the list, as in she is fed, changed, winded not too hot, not too cold. She gets herself so upset that we give her cooled boiled water to soothe her and we just cuddle her until she stops.  By this stage she is overtired, exhausted and screaming the house down. She then falls alseep out of exhaustion about 8pm, she then sleeps til gone 9pm and we have to then wait for her to wake up for her bedtime feed.  The 9pm feed goes well, with her taking a full 7oz bottle, she is smiley, and we change her into her bed clothes, and by 10pm i take her too her room for "quiet time" before she is put down for the night.  she goes to sleep very easliy on her own until 7.30 am. 

Darcey sleeps in a cot in her own room for all naps and her bedtime sleep.  She is not swaddled she hates this, she sleeps with a sleeping bag and top sheets and has done for the past 4 weeks.

All her naps and bedtime sleeps go without a tear or cry from her, she is so good but at 6pm she turns into a Diva.

Please help x

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Re: Help unsettled time every night like clockwork
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 01:39:27 am »
Hi hun! Sorry you are having such a tough time! :'(

Does Darcey have reflux?
Sorry to insist, but your story reminds me of my story.  That's how I realized my lo had reflux, he was a very happy baby until the afternoon arrived.  He would go down for his nap and then he cried non stop until he got really exhausted and fell back to sleep! :-\

Could you post your day like this? Sorry I wasn't clear before, but it is easier for me to understand what's going on if you do it like this:
wake up 7.30 am
E. 7.30 am
A. 7.30 - 9.15 am
S. 9.15- 11.15 am

E. 11.15
And so on...

Ok hun, so I have several theories about what's going on with Darcey...
1.  At this age, babies usually take 3x1.5 hr naps + 1 catnap, so I think Darcey's body clock is taking that catnap at 5 pm.  That's why she wakes up after only 30 min b/c her body has had the amount of daysleep that it needs.  Her body is ready for going to bed for the night after that catnap.  iykwim?

2.  It is important to aim for a 12 hr day - 12 hr night cycle, so if Darcey is waking up at 7 am, then she should go to bed at 7 pm.  Does this make sense? I would try to put her down for the night at 7 pm and not at 9 pm.  9 pm seems too late, and that may be why she is crying so much after that catnap, she's tired and ready for the night not for a long nap.

3.  A 30 min nap usually means OT, so try to reduce the previous A time and see if you get a bit longer nap. 

Here are some links for information:
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=10384.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=85134.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=64158.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=654.0

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Re: Help unsettled time every night like clockwork
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 22:03:20 pm »
Thank you for the advice.  Darcey is showing signs of sleeping for a good 12 hours at night, but we thought she was to young to be doin this hence making her bed time later.   Took your advice and she took a feed at 7.30pm today and went down at 8.30pm.  Unable to make it earlier due to her not getting up til 8am again this morning.  However, i did limit the activity time as suggested and it seems to work.  Although she woke up after 30 mins, she only stirred a little and went back to sleep for another 20 mins.  She then was up and sat with me until i gave her a full feed at 7.30pm.

I looked at the links for the average sleep and didnt realise that her sleep patterns are that of a 4-6month old. But it all makes sense and we feel so much better from your response.  Thank you again. Will let you know how we get on. At this rate we can now make plans to have a night out and get the family to babysit, before hand we were apprehensive as it was such a drama to settle her.

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Re: Help unsettled time every night like clockwork
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 16:01:30 pm »
I'm happy things are going better! :D