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Need some veteran BW support....VERY frustrated
« on: July 17, 2009, 22:59:08 pm »
Hi everyone,

Today is just one of those "bad" days.  I am feeling like I am failing at this and need some supportive mamas out there who have had success with this...to help me out.  I have tried to look through the other posts as well as the sleep interview and I haven't seen my question (that's not to say it's not there...just that I can't seem to find it in all of my frustration...) And today I feel like I need some one-on-one help.   :-[

I have a few questions:

(My son is 6 months old -tomorrow- and is on the 4 hour EASY...since last week...and is doing VERY well as far as E and A)

1.  Since I am trying to teach my son to self-soothe, I need help on knowing when is the "right" time to intervene during a nap???  I read that if you "rush right in" you will become a prop, but if you let him cry, if even for 5 mins, you are damaging the trust between you.  (I have been taking the attitude of going in when he needs me...the panicked cry...but after reading the sleep interview, it seemed like Tracy said to go in right when they cry).  Am I missing something??  (He has been able to put himself back to sleep-but usually only at bedtimes...he only gets more worked up during naps if I leave him fussing for a few minutes.)

2.  My son seems to wake after 35 minutes but is crying and needs help going back to sleep.  I have tried going into his room and watching for the jolts that might wake him and then placing my hands on him to wake to sleep, as I have read.  However, he STILL wakes after 35 mins, so today I tried to gently wake him by rubbing his back and moving his arm.  He let out a shuddery breath.  I figured that was "waking him" out of that sleep cycle.  Am I correct?  (He still jolted at 35 mins and I put my hands on him again...but I don't think it was a coincidence that the trash truck was immediately outside his bedroom window.)

3.  I have read that at this age, you should leave one arm out of the blanket so they can find their thumb or fingers.  My son gets so worked up and upset when he is sucking his fingers, that it wakes him more.  Should we do something different to teach him to soothe with his fingers??  (He doesn't use a paci or anything like that.)

Thank you for any and all help you can offer me.  I am a very "by the book" person so when something goes off, I get discouraged.  If this is all normal and I just need to stick with it, can you please let me know that too?  Thank you!!! ;)


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Re: Need some veteran BW support....VERY frustrated
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 00:32:30 am »
First of all BIG HUGS  :-*

Ok a few questions:

Could you post your routine please?
Does he have a paci at sleep time?
Is he still swaddled?
Is he breast feed or bottle feed?
Have you started solids?

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Re: Need some veteran BW support....VERY frustrated
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 01:37:40 am »
Of course!!

I know he should be staying awake for 2.25-2.5 hours but with his short naps, I am confused at times and he seems tired.  Not sure where I am going wrong.

Routine...today...kind of a rough day...
wakes between 630-7...usually plays until close to 7 and then I go in and get him.
E- 7
A- 730
745 solids
S- 830-910, 1025-1110 (and I woke him at 1110 so he wouldn't miss the feeding)
He woke crying at 910, and I went in to him, worked on calming...he was pretty upset and it took a while for him to calm down, and then finally fell asleep at 1025.  He didn't spend that whole time crying...I was planning to stop at 40 mins of trying, but he calmed and was in and out of sleep until he finally drifted off at 1025)
E-1115
A-1145
S- 100-135, then again 155-250 (I thought I should bring the S time earlier since he was probably tired for having put up such a fight during the first nap???)
E- 300
A- 330
solids 345
S-520-550 (woke crying from the catnap but we didn't try to extend)
E- 600 (I cluster feed before and after his bath-his dad is giving him his bath now...)
S- We are aiming for a 7:30/8:00 bedtime
Dream feed at 10:30

Yesterday's routine...still a bit funky...
E- 700 (I woke him at 7...) Not sure if I should still be waking him but Tracy said to follow the times while initially setting up the routine
A-730
solids 750
S-915-1115 (I spent a lot of time in his room, helping him work through the jolts.  I woke him at 1115.)
E-1125
A- 1150
S- 135-210 (only 35 mins....crying very hard for 40 mins...didn't calm down so we stopped)
E- 245
solids 345
A- (Minimal...figuring he would still be tired)
S- Tried at 410 for another nap-catnap but he laid and played in his crib for 45 mins. 
E and Bath
S- 615-655 woke and I had to help him calm down till he was back asleep at 725-for the night
Dream feed at 1030
He woke at 5 am briefly, he quickly put himself back to sleep)


He does not have a paci.

He is not fully swaddled.  We wrap a blanket tightly around his arms and have been leaving one out since last night (after reading the blanket post on here) and seeing him this morning after playing in his crib, he was flipped the opposite way we put him down and in the opposite corner of his crib.  LOTS of movement!!

He is breast fed and we started solids about 3 weeks ago.  Still just on cereal but we just started 2 times a day.

Thank you!!