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16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« on: October 27, 2010, 09:36:39 am »
My 16mo daughter was a great self-settler up until a few wks ago. I would pop her in her sleeping bag and in her cot, walk out and she was usually asleep in less than 2min without a sound. This was for naps as well as bedtime at night. The past few wks she has been standing up and crying as soon as I turn to walk out of the room. I have tried WI/WO which seems to have worked for her day nap, but not for bedtime at night. WI/WO seems to make her really worked up everytime I turn around to walk out. I've done this for up to 40min, but she is so overtired and worked up by then that the only way to get her to sleep is to stay with her.

Lately, I have tried walking out to start with and then just gone back in after the crying and stayed in the room until she falls asleep. She doesn't need to be patted or touched, but is constantly turning around to make sure I'm still there, which I think is really distracting for her. But if she can't see me she stands up and cries immediately. I think I used GW when she was a few months old and that worked well. But now, I don't seem to be getting anywhere with withdrawing out of the room.

I have read elsewhere to leave them cry for a while as long as it's not an emotional cry. The most I've let her cry is about 5min, but it's such an emotional cry with so many tears and sobbing. I think wallking in and out a lot may be a bit overstimulating and disruptive. I feel as though she now knows that if she cries I'll come back in and stay with her. But when she has cried a bit more she's woken up in the night. She has also been waking from every sleep screaming and sounds so scared, whereas she used to wake happy.

I think this is separation anxiety. I've been trying to remember when things changed and I think it may have been when we went through the 2-1 transition and trying to persuade her to have an afternoon nap which she didn't always want and that meant we stayed in the room with her trying to convince her to sleep. Previous to this she hadn't needed any help to sleep.

Here is her routine:
6am-7am wake
12-12.30pm nap, sleeps 1-2.5hrs (usu closer to 1hr)
7 or 7.30pm bedtime (i'm trying to make this closer to 7pm, but it's so hard to time when she's having such trouble going to sleep)
she is generally still STTN

I feel as though my bedtime approach is so inconsistent, but I just don't know what else to do. Would really appreciate some advice!

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Re: 16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 08:23:43 am »
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Re: 16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 09:08:13 am »
is she teething?




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Re: 16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 09:10:37 am »
no sign of teeth. I've tried given her paracetamol before bed but it doesn't seem to make a difference.

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Re: 16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 09:52:23 am »
I think bringing bedtime a touch earlier is a good idea especially if she is only doing an hours sleep generally. It is amazing how much of a factor OT or UT can be with the settling process.
I think the best thing is to decide what YOU feel comfortable with. Leaving her to cry is unlikely to get you anywhere really as if she is going through SA she needs your presence.
If WIWO is making her very upset then for now I would stay with her. It won't before ever but she needs to know you are there so maybe you will need to do this for a few nights. Once she is more relaxed then you can try GW but I would not advise trying to leave the room until you know she is asleep at the moment as it seems this is what she is anxious about.
Don't worry - we went through exactly this when DS was one and it was a combination of 2:1 issues and molars. It was rough and we thought we would never be able to leave the room again but once he was ok we did WIWO and it was fine. At the moment for whatever reason she needs you.
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Re: 16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 01:44:57 am »
thanks for the advice! I think OT has played a large part. I've been putting DD to bed by 7pm the past couple of nights and she seems a little calmer. Also, I've stopped trying to WO, which hopefully is helping build the trust back up.

i think i've tried so hard not to start bad habits for fear of not being able to break them that I've really started questioning myself with everything I do. I think just doing what feels right is probably good advice. All the other posts seem to say that things go back to normal pretty quickly. It's just hard to see that happening at the moment.

thanks again for the advice!

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Re: 16mo trouble settling at bedtime, prev very good self-settler
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2010, 06:07:30 am »
No problem - good luck :)




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