Saga of the 2-1 transition

[Spleenie]

Hi all!

The saga of the 2:1 continues!  

Katelyn's EASY for a few weeks now has been -

07.30 - Awake
10.00 - Nap 1
10.30 - Wake her up
2.30 - Nap 2
3.30 - Wake her up
7.30 - Bedtime

Now for the past few days naps have been a screaming battle -

07.30 - Awake
10.30 - Nap 1
10.50 - Wake her up
2.45 - Nap 2 (wont go to sleep any earlier!!!)
3.30 - Wake her up
7.30 - Bedtime

Do you think she's just ready for the 1 nap? So hard knowing what to do for the best during this transition x x x

[sianie]

Hi there...

How old is your LO now?

As you know 2:1 is a tricky balance, especially as LO's get closer to the 1 nap. Generally, LO's need to be able to comfortably handle around 4.5/5hrs A-time to manage 1 nap days. Have you ever tried any 1 nap days? A lot of Mums alternate 1 & 2 nap days for a while until their LO's are better able to manage the longer A-times.

From her routine, it looks like she's doing 12hrs at night? If so this is pretty good for an LO going through the transition. You could try a couple of things; 1/ Wake her at 7am & keep her nap at 10.30am or 2/ Push her AM nap back nearer 11am, (20/30mins) & then move PM nap to 3pm & push BT later. Unfortunately, avoiding long days when going through this transition is nearly impossible.

What do you think?

[Spleenie]

Hello, thank you for your reply.

Katelyn is now 13 and a half months old 

She woke at 8.30am today and she managed nearly 5 hours A time so I think i am going to try the 1 nap a day when she's with me or with my mum, i dont think it'll work at nursery as she short naps there. I guess everyday is different so will have to play it by ear x x x

[<Catherine>]

Can't believe you are now posting in toddler sleep.......and even more unbelievable that you are getting such fab nights from the little monkey!   

As Sian says, you need to try some no nap days and see how she goes, and you may need to be alternating for a little while.

Good luck! 

[Spleenie]

Time flies! We were having some unsettled nights but now that we have introduced supper it seems to have helped (touching wood)

Todays EASY looks like this -

08.30 -Awake
1.30 - Asleep
2.40 - Awake due to a pooh 
7.30 - Bedtime

I think it worked well today as she had a late start to the day, will see how she gets on, on Friday when she's at my mum's as she'll be awake at 7am x x x

[~Emma~]

When you first transition to one nap its not uncommon for it to be shorter than normal for a wee while, it'll get longer over time. DS was the same, his nap started out at 1hr15/20 and then eeked out to 2 hours, sometimes 2.5 over time.

[Spleenie]

That's good to know, thank you Emma!

Do you think 12ish would be a good nap time if she wakes at 7am? Just wondering if I should try a 2 nap day when she's awake this early x x x

[~Emma~]

Well I've had bubs in both camps. With DS I did 2-1 the long way and was very cautious throughout. We waivered and did silly CNs of 20 mins for weeks as I was so scared of OT. With DD I am just going for it (although that being said she has had the odd 2 nap day). I have just stuck to one nap throughout and the only time I've offered 2 is if she's woken in the AM after a night of only 11 hours. (ie 7-6) She's good though and tend to let me know when she's heading for OT by shortening her night.

 I think the consistancy with DD has been good, its kinda like setting her bodyclock.

 Tomorrow I'd try for a nap at 12, do an early lunch and put her down straight after. Ugh, this 2-1 is a dicey game! 

[Spleenie]

Thanks Emma,

She's at nursery tomorrow so i usually let them go with the flow and let them read her signs, she short naps there most of the time anyways.

I'll keep going with the 1 nap a day when i'm with her or when she's with her grandma. 2:1 isnt fun! x x x

[~Emma~]

. 2:1 isnt fun!

 Certainly is not! 

[choc]

Hi Spleenie, just wondered how you are getting on with the 1 nap as we are in a similar position.  How many days is she in nursery?  How is it working with her doing a different routine at nursery to when she is with you? 

[Spleenie]

Hello,

We are on 1 nap a day now but i'm not sure if she's getting too much or too little day sleep as she is now having a NW! 

Katelyn goes to nursery for 2 days a week and to my mums for 1 day. Sleep is so different when she's at nursery, i tried to get them to follow BW but its so hard for them to implement it due to the environment (noise, not dark enough etc)

How are you finding things? x x x

[choc]

Thanks for replying!  We did one nap for a couple of weeks and it was going ok but then teeth kicked in and lots of NW and then DLS happened.  This all meant lots of Nws and EWs so he couldn't make it through to his nap time and then would short nap.  I was happy to push through put his childminder wasn't really and kept complaining how tired he was.  DH wasn't really supportive and everyone was telling me to go back to 2 naps (apart from the girls on here!) so I did.

Now we are on 2 naps but they are both short.  So back to square 1 really.

There are so many things in the way of him having the naps I want him to have at the CM's, like school runs etc.  Thats why I was wondering how your LO got on with doing different things on different days?  Ideally I would like to push his naps but if CM needs to put him down earlier then there is not much I can do.

What does you LO do differently at nursery to home?

[Spleenie]

It's hard knowing that CM and nurseries do things differently, I know they have to as they have other LO's to look after but it really used to make me quite anxious. Nursery are quite good now, i write down nap times and they follow it, its more environmental factors at nursery that affect Katelyn's napping now.

All i try and do now is prepare myself for an O/T baby and possibly an unsettled night x x x

[Spleenie]

Hi all,

I'm at a total 2:1 loss here!

For 1 week Katelyn had 1 nap days -

7.30 - Awake
1 - Nap
3.30 - Awake
7.30 - Bedtime

The day went really well but we got NW's around 9pm and 1am, at 1pm she would settle within 30 mins to 2 hours!

I reverted back to a 2 nap day and the days are sooooo long!

EASY from lastweek whilst at nursery (slept thru the night) -

7.30 - Awake
11.15 - Asleep
11.45 - Woke her up
3.15 - Asleep
3.50 - Awake
7.30 - Asleep

Today's EASY

6.30 - Awake
10.30 - Asleep
11.00 - Woke her up
2.30 - Asleep
3.45 - Woke her up
8.10 - Still awake in her cot

I am trying to see where I'm going wrong but i'm getting a bit muddled. She is fighting her naps during 2 nap days, lots of crying etc....

Any ideas ladies? x x x