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Nap help after growth spurt madness!
« on: February 19, 2012, 20:07:30 pm »
Howdy there peeps,

I hope this post finds you well.

DD is nearly 20 weeks old and recently I was on the Nap forum for advice as LO was doing SPLENDIFEROUSLY as she was pushing her own feed times back and started to fall asleep for 1 hr 45 mins - 2 hour naps and I was over the moon.

THEN - the 4 month growth spurt came and was there any need for a bra?! Well, it was difficult to keep to our EASY from before with extra feeds and early wake times and nap times because she was a hungry mungry. We kept to an EASY structure but things weren't as they were. It's calmed down a lot now but this side of the growth spurt we are now getting 1 hour naps... EVERY time... on the dot.

The EASY mod's were really helpful with their advice and they think that I need to start increasing her A time to help it all out and to try get her back into the swing of moving towards a 4 hour EASY.

I was just wanting some advice really as I go about this.

In those early weeks to correct some AP I helped DD sleep with some Ssh/p'ing and this combined with her finger sucking meant she could sleep independantly and she would even get herself back off very well if she woke in the middle of a nap. In fact, since then - it often made matters worse if I tried to help mid - nap... she'd cry a bit (even fuss and mantra cry for 20 mins) and get herself back off for a long time.

Now I don't know what to do! She isn't getting herself back off after an hour and I was wondering if I should keep just working on getting her A time right - because when we nail that her naps will lengthen (We've been trying to tweak A times for a couple of days - no luck yet but its early days) OR whether I should be using PU/PD at this point?

I was confused before because she seemed hungry so I would feed her if she woke from a nap (last week) so I don't know if her naps are an AP and A time combo!?

I know PU/PD seems to be a last resort so I don't want to dive in with this if it's unnecesary because she STTN and generally gets more stimulated and annoyed if I try and help her go to sleep..

I think I am finding it difficult as the day goes on because she is more tired towards the later part of the day and her E's are more tricky... I am probably keeping her up too long for the next A due to the first nap being dodgy and so the OT/UT pattern continues.

Sorry for the long winded rant - I know she is doing well really but I'd love your thoughts on whether I help her get back to sleep with these naps atm or just work on her A and as I figure this out... that will ease it all naturally!

Gracias :) x x x



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Re: Nap help after growth spurt madness!
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 20:39:52 pm »
Sorry, forgot to say we have lots of developemental leaps that have occured at the same time... a rolling, toe eating, cooing (well - screaching actually) young lady. She wakes - she grabs those tootsies.
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Re: Nap help after growth spurt madness!
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 22:11:33 pm »
Hi there.

I think you'll get there with the A time increase.  I personally wouldn't be leaving her to try to get herself back off to sleep for an hour though.  If her A is too short (and obviously you need to up in increments not one big leap so it's going to take a little time) and she is UT then laying in her cot fussing is a pretty low level stimulation, I'd think it could possibly lead to another UT nap (more like US nap but the results are the same, LO is not tired enough due to low stimulation during the A time).  So, if it was me, I'd get her up and do a regular level of stimulation so that your A times are more 'normal'.  Otherwise you could be increasing up to a higher A time that she can't handle once she's up and about iyswim.

As for resettling, well my DS has been through various phases of what he prefers for a resettle.  There was a time when if I stayed in the room whilst he was going to sleep, or if I tried to resettle mid nap be would go haywire.  Trying to resettle a UT (or US) nap is likely not to be received well, more likely you will get loud protests trying to tell you they are not tired :)
I have also had phases of him being very agreeable to a rub on the back and a key phrase (something like 'it's still sleepy time, go back to sleep').
Another phase of HAVING to be picked up and held for about 30 seconds before being put down again followed by a little rub on the back or a firm hand that he could feel I was there.  This was when I was going in mid nap to find him sitting up, if I tried to just lay him down he went MAD, if I picked up and tried to resettle in my arms he would go MAD, there was a very fine line between wanting to be picked up so he knew he had been cuddled and wanting to be in his cot so he could go back to sleep.
Recently I do not need to pick him up and if I do he can get very upset about it.  I either just lightly put a hand on his shoulder and tell him 'lie down and go back to sleep' or just the phrase on it's own (sometimes I say the phrase from the next room and I can tell he has laid back down to go to sleep).  He now lays himself back down and snuggles to get comfortable and goes back to sleep.  he still sometimes wants me to pick him up for a little cuddle though, he might lift his arms when I offer for example.

Now, my LO is older than yours, I don't expect you to follow these methods or for your LO to go through the same phases, but what I'm saying is they do grow and change.  As your LO becomes more aware of everything she may respond differently to some shush/pat, a rub, a key phrase, a pick up and resettle down.  It's worth a try because sometimes they just do need a bit of extra help to find their way back to dreamland.

I wouldn't use PUPD at all (what I describe above is not PUPD even though it involves picking up), you're right it is a last resort and I think in your case it is more likely to cause stress for both you and LO, esp if she is UT and esp if she doesn't like too much disruption to self settle.

So, I haven't given you a solution here, but perhaps something has helped a little in deciding how to go forward with your LOs naps.
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Re: Nap help after growth spurt madness!
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 22:34:56 pm »
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That's great and reassuring. Thanks. Key phrases might be a really good way forward too. Will keep pursuing those A times.

OH NO! Sorry, I must have typed in a confusing way... I definately do not leave my LO to resettle for an hour! I give her 15 mins if she's fussing and wimpering and crying (but not in an ''I'VE HAD ITTTT" way - it's a mantra cry) because that's how she (well up till now) would go off with some juicy fingers. Haha... in all fairness, after finding that 20 mins of a lil cry and wimper got her off it was I who was the mess as my tummy would be in butterflies coz I am pants at hearing her cry! Smiley
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Re: Nap help after growth spurt madness!
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 22:49:38 pm »
Key phrases might be a really good way forward too
Maybe introduce a phrase into your wind down so she gets used to it.

Sorry, I must have typed in a confusing way
No problem.

You did so well before I'm sure you'll find success with getting the naps back on track.
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