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6 wk old and mourning a loss
« on: August 10, 2012, 17:14:25 pm »
It's been a few years since I've been on here... now I'm back because I'm struggling big time.

DS was born 6 weeks ago. 10 days after he was born, my mother-in-law and father-in-law were killed in a small airplane crash. It was sudden and tragic. It has been devastating to us. When my LO was 2 weeks old, I was helping my husband plan a memorial, hosting guests in our home and meeting with friends and family to discuss remains, the latest crash report, what to do their with belongings,  meeting with lawyers, etc. I NEVER slept. Really. 2 hours a night was about what I averaged for a few weeks. This is all more than I can handle. Did I mention DS is my third LO? Breastfeeding went totally downhill as I had to spend so much time out and about and away from him. I began pumping and now exclusively pump as LO refuses to breastfeed. He was screaming while nursing and I couldn't handle it. On top of a post partum recovery, I am battling severe sadness and feeling the loss of my in-laws not to mention all the stuff we have to do with lawyers, properties, belongings, etc. Watching my husband go through this has been so hard. Every day is full of tears and most of the time, I feel like I just can't go on.

My hugest issue is with DS and his eating and sleeping. There is no such thing as a routine with this guy. He was born 9lbs 8oz and feeds constantly day and night. During the day, I feed him 2-3oz every 2-3 hours. His naps are all over the place and in different places (the swing, the bassinet, the baby carrier, etc). Whatever I can handle at the moment is where he goes. The nights are rough. He is up every 2 hours and sucks down at least 3 ounces. And he is HUNGRY. He screams until he eats and even then, will scream through most of the feeding. He does this during the day too but at night, it's worse.

I can't see clearly right now and need help. I need to get my LO to sleep longer through the night and figure out why he screams every time he feeds (bottle or breast - although I am no longer doing breast for this very reason).  When he naps during the day it's 20mins to 45 mins. Nothing longer.



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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 17:18:58 pm »
No advice but couldn't read and not post hugs and love to you. What a rough go of it!  I'm so sorry for your loss!
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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 18:08:41 pm »
Hugs to you my Love, what a rough time you have had  :'(

All I can suggest is giving more milk at a time? Though I BF and so I don't know the first thing about formula but 2-3oz sounds a smalll amount?

Could he have a bit of reflux that is causing the crying and wanting to feed often?

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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 18:38:11 pm »
(((Hugs))). I am sorry for your loss and I can only imagine what a difficult time you are going through.
Like Buntybear said it does sound like there is discomfort. Would you be able to check with your Ped.?
It could be Reflux, but could also be Colic and lots of gas, maybe this is why he is screaming while feeding at? Are you burping him after every feed? Is he pulling his legs to his tummy? Do you have plenty of wet nappies? Dirty nappies?

I could offer and look at your routine now, but I how shall I say it gently? Are you in a state to work on sleep, to reduce or stretch A if needed? I can't put myself in your shoes and think what I would have been able to cope with. If you want me to have a look I'd do it gladly and I'll try and support you best I can, but I would want you to think if you wouldn't prefer to AP sleep now just to go through this difficult time.
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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 19:13:55 pm »
Adding {{hugs}} and condolences. 

Please take care of yourself.  Is there anyone else who can come to help?  Will your older kids be heading to school soon?


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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 21:22:50 pm »
Loads of hugs hun...

You are pumping now right?  If so, I do wonder if your supply isn't what it needs to be given the frequent small feeds..

I will grab a BFing set of eyes to see what we can do to help out a bit... are you wanting to get him back to the breast?



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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 21:32:03 pm »
(((((((hugs))))))) I'm so sorry for your loss :'(



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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012, 21:59:27 pm »
Just wanted to send you lots of (((((hugs)))))). You have so much going on; I can't even imagine.  It does sound like he's uncomfortable feeding.  Agree with PP maybe gas or reflux? 





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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 22:00:54 pm »
Oh my goodness, some huge ((((hugs)))) sweetie.

Here are some ideas on bfing the reluctant nurser from kellymom.com

Your goal is to coax baby to the breast. Do not attempt to force your baby to breastfeed. Forcing baby to the breast does not work, stresses baby, and can result in baby forming an aversion to the breast. As baby gets better at nursing and is able to get more milk via nursing, he will grow to trust that breastfeeding works and will have more patience when latching.
 ■Wear clothing that allows very easy access to the breasts. Baby may get very impatient in the split-second it takes for mom to lift the blouse and undo the bra. Spend time, if possible, in a warm place that allows both mom and baby to be naked from the waist up.
 ■Lots of skin-to-skin contact can help your baby nurse better and even gain weight faster. Keep your baby with you as much as possible, and give him lots of opportunities to nurse (even if you’re not successful). Get skin-to-skin with him, first when he is sleepy, right after a bottle feed (or however you’re supplementing). This way baby has the opportunity to sleep and wake up happily, skin to skin at mom’s chest, and mom is right there to catch the earliest hunger cues. If baby moves toward the breast and then falls asleep before even mouthing the nipple, or after sucking twice, then these are positive baby steps, not failures. (Read more about kangaroo care or take a look at the book.)
 ■Offer the breast often. Try breastfeeding in baby’s favorite place, in his favorite position, in the bath, while walking around, while lying down, with baby upright, baby flat on his back, in his sleep, just as he is waking, any time baby looks as if he might be interested, or any other way you can think of, i.e. any time, anywhere.
 ■Avoid pressuring baby to nurse. Offer in an ultra-casual way and pretend you don’t mind if he refuses (easier said than done, but try not to show any frustration – your aim is to avoid pressuring baby to nurse). Don’t hold the back of baby’s head or push or hold baby to the breast. If baby pulls off the breast, then don’t try to make him go back onto the breast at that time – simply try again later. If baby seems frustrated with your offering the breast, then turn the pressure down and simply make the breast available (lots of skin-to-skin!) without offering. It can be helpful to have lots of skin-to-skin time with baby where he is cuddled at the breast with no pressure to nurse – give control over to your baby, so that baby decides if and when to nurse and when to stop nursing.
 ■Carry your baby close to you (a sling or other baby carrier can help with this). “Wear,” carry, hold and cuddle your baby as much as possible; carry baby on your hip while doing other things, play with baby, and give baby lots of focused attention.
 ■Sleep near your baby. If baby sleeps with you, you’ll get more skin-to-skin contact, plus baby has more access to the breast (see this information on safe co-sleeping). If baby is not in the same bed, have baby’s bed beside your bed or in the same room so that you can catch early feeding cues, breastfeed easier at night, and get more sleep.
 ■Nipple shields can be helpful at times for transitioning baby to the breast. Talk to your lactation consultant about using this tool.
 ■Comfort nursing is often the first to come, followed by nutritive nursing. Offer the breast for comfort any time you see a chance- at the end of a feeding when baby is not hungry, when baby is going to sleep or just waking up, when baby is asleep, and whenever he needs to comfort suck If your baby is actively resisting nursing, then try encouraging comfort nursing after baby is comfortable with skin-to-skin contact. After baby is willing to nurse for comfort, you can then proceed to working on nursing for “meals” as well.
 
You are working to seduce your baby back to breast. Again, coax, don’t force!
 
“Instant Reward” techniques
 
For a newborn who is not latching or an older baby who does not want to wait for letdown, try these techniques that help to teach (or re-teach) your baby that nursing is a way to get milk:
 ■Hand express or pump until let-down, just before trying to latch baby, so that baby gets an instant “reward” for latching on. Another way to elicit let-down is by doing reverse pressure softening.
 ■If you are using a nipple shield to transition to nursing, try filling the tip of the shield with expressed milk prior to applying the shield and latching, so that baby gets some milk first thing as he latches.
 ■Drip expressed breastmilk (if you have it) or formula onto the tip of the nipple as you’re latching (use an eyedropper or a bottle). You can continue this while you’re breastfeeding: Just drip milk toward the center of baby’s upper lip; let the drop start on the breast and roll down toward the center of the upper lip (12 o’clock position if you’re using the football/clutch hold), one drop at a time. A curved tip syringe can also be used to drip milk into baby’s mouth.
 ■Use a nursing supplementer to increase milk flow at the breast.
 
If baby starts breastfeeding but stops sucking as soon as the milk flow slows, breast compressions can speed the flow of milk. If this is not sufficient, the last two methods above can also be used.
 
Skin to Skin/Laid-Back Breastfeeding
 
Keeping baby skin to skin with mom and “laid-back” breastfeeding techniques can both be very helpful when encouraging baby to breastfeed. This video shows baby-led, mother-guided latching. One technique used to get babies to accept the breast has been called rebirthing, but this is essentially just laid-back breastfeeding in the bath. Mom gets into the bathtub, full of warm (not hot) water with baby. Place baby on mom’s tummy, in the water. Stroke baby, talk to baby. This may take time, but baby may begin to work his way up to the breast, search it out, and begin to suckle. It’s important to have a support person with mom when doing this, for the safety of the baby. See Help for Latch-on Problems for more information.

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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2012, 22:01:29 pm »
It does sound like he could be either a bit uncomfortable or more hungry.  Have you seen this calculator for estimating EBM bottle size http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/?
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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2012, 22:06:31 pm »
And this jumped out on me too...

My hugest issue is with DS and his eating and sleeping. There is no such thing as a routine with this guy. He was born 9lbs 8oz and feeds constantly day and night. During the day, I feed him 2-3oz every 2-3 hours. His naps are all over the place and in different places (the swing, the bassinet, the baby carrier, etc). Whatever I can handle at the moment is where he goes. The nights are rough. He is up every 2 hours and sucks down at least 3 ounces. And he is HUNGRY. He screams until he eats and even then, will scream through most of the feeding. He does this during the day too but at night, it's worse.

My ds was born tiny (5 pounds, 12 ounces) but decided that tiny was not for him -- he's now a big boy (95th % for weight/90th for height at last check) -- and he nursed every 3 hours around the clock for his first 3/4 months.  I totally understand that it's hard to keep up with -- does he at least go to sleep between feedings?  And I would totally go with whatever works right now in terms of sleep -- swing, carrier, whatever -- do what you need to and work on maybe getting him in the crib for 1 nap a day.  Maybe work on establishing a BT routine (because for me, having those few hours to myself at night before I have to go to bed is so important to my overall well-being). 

Also, I just realized that I posted all this "how to get your baby to nurse" info without knowing whether or not you truly want him to go back to nursing.  What are you thinking about that?  More (((hugs)))), we're here to help you with whatever you need. 

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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2012, 22:49:03 pm »
Hugs to you - I am so sorry for your family's loss. 

I also had a big baby boy (10#3oz) and he was a screamer.  It was always within minutes after he finished BFing though, and I finally figured out he had gas.  It wasn't obvious because I couldn't always hear it, but when I began cutting out almost all gassy foods from my diet, there was a huge difference.

He also hated to be in a baby carrier, a swing, bouncy seat... just about everything.  He didn't sleep well in his crib, and didn't sleep more than 15 min at a time for awhile. All that to say that he is a great sleeper now (we finally worked out his sleeping a few months in with a lot of patience) and now thrives on the routine.  He's 3 1/2 and once he learned to put himself to sleep and sleep at night, he never went back.

All that to say...hang in there!  It will get easier and he will start sleeping and getting happier soon. 

I'll pray that you will have the strength for this challenging season in your family's lives.

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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2012, 00:25:46 am »
Many hugs & prayers - wish we were closer to help you out
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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2012, 13:34:44 pm »
Just wanted to say huge hugs and so sorry for your loss x

The people on here will be able to help you Hun.

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Re: 6 wk old and mourning a loss
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2012, 15:48:39 pm »
Huge huge (((hugs))) there is so much good advice already, I hope you have a chance to read it and reply soon. These ladies are amazing and we can all try and help :)
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